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Markets Well, they've been up or

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sideways, they haven't really been declining
much. And the person you're about to

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hear from kind of cold this several
months ago when the rest of the street

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was panicking, he held tight.
And who's the smarter person. I'm talking

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about av Gilbert And the site is
Elliott Wavetrader dot net. And if you've

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got a question for Avvy myself kl
at Kerry Lutz dot com is the email

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address AVI. Welcome back, So
you're mostly right. Well, thank you

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for having me back, and you
know that's the goal. I know it's

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the goal. But there's a lot
of people out there. Look, let's

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face it, there's a million newsletters, a million people pretend to know what's

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going on or claim they know what's
going on, and yet often the boat

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is missed. And yet in your
case, I wouldn't say we've gone up

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to new records yet, but you
did say you expressed a confidence in the

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market that was completely lacking from virtually
every other forecaster out there. Yeah,

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I mean the market. I can't
say that the structure has been clean,

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but the overall path has been relatively
clear. I was actually discussing this with

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some of our members today and when
we were looking for the bottoming structure back

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down in a thirty five hundred region
on the S and P five hundred,

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we we actually laid out the general
path we expected for the market to take

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up to forty three hundred plus.
We expected we get a rally towards the

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forty one hundred to forty one fifty
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maybe about thirty eight hundred thirty nine
hundred and then and then another rally to

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forty three hundred plus. Overall,
that's pretty much what the market has done

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right now. And over the last
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we call the danger zone entire members, and that was basically between forty three

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seventy five to about forty four thirty
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point zone that we call the danger
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And I said, from this zone, we could see a very sizable

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decline. But I'm going to need
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top for me to consider that we're
going to be seeing a very very sizable

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decline. That's started yet and I
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the tip off? What particular formation, what activity is it? Volumetric?

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Is is it piercing? Support levels? Two hundred day moving average? What

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are we looking at? Well,
it's basically an elliot wave construct. I'm

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looking for whether the market gives us
five waves down off a high or simply

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a corrective back off a high,
and each one will give me a different

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action to do. Okay, all
right, So we're looking for the next

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wave and well, what you know, you've been following the market for decades.

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Here, what's your gut telling you? I gotta tell you, I

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have learned many, many years ago
to avoid gut trading. For me,

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all I want to know is what
is the market telling me? What is

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my gut dinner tell me? Is
one thing. I just wanted to know

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what the market is telling me,
And the market is telling me to be

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very very cautious. At this point
in time when everybody started getting very very

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bullish as we were heading to forty
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guys, it's time to now race
stops on all your holdings and or raise

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cash because we are a very very
dangerous posture right now, and we have

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to let the market let us know
over the next couple of weeks exactly what

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we need to do, whether we're
going to short the market, or whether

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we're going to go back into the
market and possibly look at the next higher

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target of maybe forty eight hundred on
the SMP back to the highs uh huh.

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Okay, So you got a time
frame, you know, they always

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say you could ask somebody where the
market's going, or you could ask them

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when it's going to go. But
you should never predict both because invariably it'll

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be wrong to see. The thing
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I don't know how long it's going
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other, but I can say that
over the next few weeks to maybe a

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month's time, the market is going
to likely tell us which way it intends

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to go in the bigger picture.
Okay, I'll buy that, because you

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know it's there are times when you
just you can't really tell, but caution

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should be the buy word. But
what about the concept that markets markets climb

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on a wall of worry? I
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saying is it's more of a contrarian
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bullish, that's when you get a
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that's when you get a market low. And you know, the extent,

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the extent to which people the extent
to which people will be following that wall

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of worry is what is going to
tell you how far are you from a

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market top? You know how much
of worry is there, and that I'll

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tell you how far you are from
the market top. I think it was

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pretty clear that last week, there
really wasn't much in the way of worry

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as many of the people that I
know that have been bearish for this twenty

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seven percent rally started turning bullish.
There really isn't much surprize that we got

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to pull back here. Okay,
So you can't just be a contrarian,

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though, right, because now sometimes
the masses are correct, right, yes,

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and that and that's that's the thing
that Elliott wave analysis tells us.

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You know, if you try,
if the bulls are running and you try

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to be contrarian, oftentimes you'll get
stampeded. You have to know, you

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have to have a better context for
the market. And that's what Elliott wave

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analysis provides us. It provides us
a much much better context where we are

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in the overall trend. Hey,
you know what happens to two contrarians at

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the bull own at pump pump alone
right in Spain? Right, what happens

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to contrarians there? They get go
or get right over run over. So

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but but often though being a contrarian
really is the way to go, right,

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you have to know when to as
you said it, right, you

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have to be you have to know
when to be a contrarian. You can't

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be a contrarian on you have to
know when to be a contrarian. Right,

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So at this point is I guess, I guess you already answered the

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question. But you know this bowl
market here has been going on quite a

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while. It's resistance more or less
called where it was heading. Um,

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I guess I guess we sit back
and we wait. Huh, Well,

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I can give you some specifics.
Let me give you some specifics for those

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that are team they're playing the whole
game. Um, right now, we

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have support in forty two seventy five, the forty three sixteen, forty three

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seventeen, that's the support we've been
focusing on. As long as the market

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holds over that support, I'm looking
to see if we generate a structure that's

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next going to pointing us to forty
five hundred. So, assuming the market

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holds that support and gives me that
next setup, I'm going to be looking

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to a rally to forty five hundred. Now that will be a very key

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point. If the market breaks down
from that forty five hundred top in a

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five wave structure, that's likely going
to tell me we're going back down to

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three thousand or lower. And I
know that sounds wild, but that's the

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way the structure is set up right
now. If at any point in Timmic,

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whether it's from the high we struck
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or if we go to forty five
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down that breaks support, that opens
the door to a setup that gives us

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a crash later this year. Okay, However, however, if the market

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continues, Yeah, but these are
the parameters. If the market continues to

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hold the support and all pull back
door corrected, and we get the forty

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five hundred, and we pull back
correctively again to move back over forty five

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hundred from there could be a key
long entry for some that the like a

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lot of risk, because that's set
up with pointing uts directly up to forty

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eight hundred pretty quickly. I guess
it comes down to what Yogi Berra said

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in his Infinite Wisdom, when you
come to a fork in the road,

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take it. Yeah, exactly,
all right, so exactly, but you

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have to be able to recognize that
that's the only issue. Okay, let's

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look at all right, dollar,
what are we seeing with the dollar?

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I will say that I'm looking for
again, it depends on your time frame.

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I'm looking for a rally, probably
back up towards the one five,

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one oh six, one oh seven
region on the dollar, and then I'm

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looking for a multi month pull back
again. Effectively, what I'm seeing is

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that the market is going to chop
within a range for it could be as

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long as the next five to ten
years. I'm looking at a major range

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in the dollar. Now, yeah, fascinating. Well, you know,

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nobody a few people out there were
really forecasting the strength in the dollar,

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and I guess in a large measure
that's what really caused a short squeeze right

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in the dollar. You know,
the old thing that the death of the

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dollar has been greatly exaggerated, right
exactly. In my opinion, we were

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looking for a rally in the dollar. I didn't think we were going to

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go over one to eleven on the
Dixie, but we went as high as

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one fifteen. But I was looking
for you know, I was looking for

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a turn in the dollar at the
time. It definitely spiked through my one

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to eleven right to the one fifteen
and then spike right back down. So

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you know, I guess there was
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But now I'm looking for, you
know, pretty much a long term consolidation

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in the dollar. And I think
that long term consolidation, I think it

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could take us at least at least
three to five years. But if we

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get that long term consolidation, I
think it'll set us up for another rally

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higher in the dollar and as we
look out towards the end of this decade

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into the next. Okay, So
now let's look at the metals markets.

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Um, you know, they never
seek, they never fail to disappoint at

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some level or another. Right,
pretty much? It definitely, it definitely

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has pulled back deeper than I had
initially wanted to see, but the overall

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structure remains the same. It's basically
a corrective pullback that should set up the

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next major, major bull move in
the metals. Okay, So so we're

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in a consolidation there as well,
then, right? Yes, Okay,

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So how much lower can it go? Could it go down to seventeen hundreds

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and mid seventeen hundreds or are we
looking definitely not my not my expectation.

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I'm looking for us to bottom out, you know, I'm where in this

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nineteen hundred region, okay, in
the nineteen hundred. Yeah, you know,

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like I'm not good at this.
That's why I have people like you

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guys in because I just don't know. I'm the first to admit it,

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um, but I do. I
do find it kind of interesting that that

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it could be so so misunderstood,
you know, And so I will tell

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you. I'm not going to tell
you that I know for certain there's nothing.

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I mean, I used to be
a tax attorning many many years ago,

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and he needs to have a joke. There's only three definite things in

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life, and everybody knows two death
taxes, and then we added and then

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we added tax reform. But you
know that's an old tax. It's hardy

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to joke. But you know the
thoughts of that. An there's nothing definite

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in whites, but we look at
the market through a perspective of probabilities.

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Well that's really all it is.
I'm a recovering attorney myself here, of

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you didn't then we ever talked about
it. And look, it's like you

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say, you know there's certain things
you know unknown you know who is it?

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Rumsfeld said, there is known unknowns, and there's unknown unknowns and right,

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we're dealing with more of those unknown
unknowns than I think we ever have

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before. I don't know, we
we always have, you know, it's

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it's a recency bias to some extent. We always have our chal oranges.

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There are always issues that come up
in life and in the markets, and

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you know, yeah, the issues
may be different, but overall the challenges

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are generally the same. Okay.
So you know, I know you don't

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really talk about the war in Ukraine
and all that, except as it maybe

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it affects affects markets. But you
got any opinions on it? What's up?

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Yea? You know? I actually
I actually um gave a I gave

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the keynote address at the Money Show
in Las Vegas, and we had a

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question and answer session after I finished
my speech, and there was an older

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gentleman I've just wrote about this.
There was an old gentleman that that stood

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up and asked the question. He
said, what's my opinion about what's going

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to happen in the market if there's
a the session and cessation of fighting?

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So, you know, being a
lawyer, I decided to answer his question

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with a question, and I asked
him, well, what happened what do

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you think happened to the market when
what happened on the day that Russia entered

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Ukraine? What happened on the exact
day of the invasion of Ukraine. So

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he said to him, well,
clearly the market went down. So I

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said, I think they're going to
be a little shocked if I tell you

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the market began a ten plus percent
rally on the exact announcement that Russia entered

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Ukraine. And I literally have to
tell him, you know, you have

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to take your chin up off the
floor. So you know, I wrote

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an article about this actually just today
on Seeking Alpha, literally about this exact

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issue about you know, how events
out there. We all have a certain

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expectation of what events are going to
do to the market. Sometimes we're right,

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sometimes we're wrong. But why would
we be wrong if on the day

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that Russia enters Ukraine that ain't they
invade, the market's going to start a

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really strong rally. That makes no
sense. Another example was when we had

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the October thirteenth CPI report, everybody
was so certain that it's worth that expected

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we'd be dropping five percent. We
actually rallied six percent off that morning low

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that day, So you know,
the question is why does this happen?

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It's because we're looking in the wrong
place. Events can be a catalyst to

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a market move, it doesn't necessarily
mean that the substance of the event will

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provide the direction for that market move, and we see that so often.

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Yeah, and that's what people have
an archlimic stuffy Yeah, and I will

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admit to Yeah, I'm no expert
in it either, but certain things you

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just expect to happen. Who has
it to? Eisenhower said, things are

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things are more like they are now
than they've ever been before, right,

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that's right, right, Yeah,
but Eisenhower said it, And I know,

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you know, so I love that
we can really be somewhat humble about

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it, that we really can't tell, you know, with the specificity that

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so many people out there want,
and that things you believe certain things,

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and then they turn out not to
be true and you turn out to be

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wrong. Right, I mean,
that's really what colors down to. So

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that's why we don't ollow events really
well, well, we'll notice events to

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be potential catalysts, but the substance
of the event really doesn't matter to us.

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Yeah, Yeah, And I totally
totally agree with that I think.

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I think it just it's just we
make assumptions in life, and then when

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the assumptions don't happen, we make
excuses for the assumptions not happening, right

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and yeah, so but all right, any other markets, interest rates,

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interest rates, everybody's talking about interest
rates. Well, we've been consolidating for

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quite some time here um and ultimately, I mean, I think maybe we

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can get one more fight down,
maybe, but I'm looking for this to

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resolve higher as we look out towards
the end of the year. I don't

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have any structure that is clear early
telling me that I want to put a

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lot of money to it just yet. But the annual path seems suggesting that

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we're this consolidation will ultimately result in
another leg higher over the next half a

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year. It's the year, all
right, all right, I can I

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think that's reasonable. By the way, I apologize, that's in TLT,

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which means rates coming down. Yeah, all right. So then and then

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everything is tied in with that.
Housing, the housing stocks and how closely

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you follow the ETF home or this
sector. But they seem to have been

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surprisingly strong in light of what's going
on. Housing. It really is based

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upon pockets. So you know,
I'm not I don't follow housing that closely.

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So I really am not going to
a pind okay, But but angerous

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rates are tied into it, right
and yeah, so so I just enjoy

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the exercise of watching it and then
seeing whether it comes true or not.

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But all right, so, uh, any other markets we should be looking

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at here that you think are at
turning points or major inflection points. Let's

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take a peep um USO. We
know, do the OYL WTI, so

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on and so forth. I think
we're going to see lower lows in that

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complex. Um. I'm looking for
a small rally first. Ideally, uh,

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you know, for example, the
USO, i'd like to see US

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approaching maybe I'd like to maybe approach
US seventy the seventy region on USO.

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But ultimately I think we're going to
see one more lower low before any sustainable

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rally begins. But if I'm being
at longer term, going out to twenty

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twenty four twenty twenty five, I
would probably sink a boat right now on

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the complex. But I would like
to see one more lower low, okay,

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and that gas any un g?
I actually I don't I don't track

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Nat Gass one of my other analysts
do. For what I remember, um,

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I think he's looking a little bit
lower. But overall, if you're

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taking a very dowd approach, it's
a bottom instructure. Okay, all right,

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