WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:15.359 Go be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this for 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.960 November thirtieth, twenty twenty three. What the hell for the next hour or 3 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.640 so, let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess 4 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:26.640 Mornings Live with me Jeff Grub. Today Netflix is getting grand theft auto and 5 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.559 Bungie is still messing up micro transactions. But first, please join me and 6 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.399 welcome you today's co host of Game Mess Mornings. It's Janet Choa. Everybody, 7 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.359 jan how are you doing? I'm doing great. Here's where I feel 8 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.520 old Grub. Yeah, dropped off my partner. She's a high school teacher. 9 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:47.560 And I see these young high schoolers now scooting to school on their electric 10 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.719 scooters. Oh on electric scooters? Okay, yes, yes, And you 11 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:56.079 know, I'm pretty sure the top speed of even like the cheapest electric scooter 12 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.439 is probably maybe ten or five to ten miles per hour. I bet they 13 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.159 get up to like twelve to fifteen even, right, and then I'm thinking 14 00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:10.200 the real top of the line, guys go maybe up to like twenty maybe 15 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:15.239 maybe yo, parents, put a fucking helmet on your child, all right, 16 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.760 that's they're gonna die. Yeah for hey, this may make me seem 17 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.719 like a boomer, but fucking put a helmet on your child, all right? 18 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:29.439 Yeah that's rough stuff. Yeah I would because because like it is also 19 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:33.560 during like morning commute time when tired people are driving and trying to get to 20 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:36.079 work and are probably late. Like, yeah, you want to have helmets 21 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:38.280 on cause that's really super dangerous. I feel the same way when I see 22 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.879 that stuff. Uh back of Arver said he just kind of got on the 23 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:47.640 hoverboard the board yeah the first time, and I was like thinking, like, 24 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:49.920 are my girl, Like, is my six year old who's going to 25 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.560 be seven? Is she old enough for one of those? And I think 26 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:57.799 she's probably just getting there because but also like they're going to ride it in 27 00:01:57.840 --> 00:01:59.959 the house mostly, and I don't know if I need that. I don't 28 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.879 know if I need that because like, hey go take that outside and they're 29 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.280 like no, I'm good, Okay, come on, what the hell, 30 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:09.240 especially because it's winter coming up. But then grub you gotta think about stairs. 31 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:13.639 Yep, there's a lot. Yeah we have that, yeah, right, 32 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.599 And it's because those things go especially in like an indoor environment, so 33 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:20.960 I'm like I could I could just see them like just go hitting the corner 34 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:24.800 really fast and suddenly just shooting down the steps. Don't want that. Don't 35 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.560 want that. Helmets for that. Don't want that. Helmets for that. 36 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.599 Yeah, how are you feeling about tomorrow being December? You shut the front 37 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:38.879 door, grub, No, it's not tomorrow. Tomorrow categories if I prepared 38 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:44.159 to talk about uh huh categories, we're talking about tomorrow. Yeah, I 39 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.360 keep like, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna spend some time with that. 40 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:47.840 I got plenty of time. Oh my god, it's literally tomorrow. 41 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.879 So yeah, we got a Game of the Year starting tomorrow. Yeah, 42 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:55.800 wait, what is that? Tell me? Just oh wait, we can't. 43 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:59.599 We can't and said what we're doing publicly yet? Okay, all right, 44 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:04.800 I'll have to looking up shit. Oh boy, it's gonna be great 45 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.199 though, it's Oh, it's gonna be fun. Absolutely honestly. Overall, 46 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:10.360 I feel pretty good about this year, about keeping up for the most part. 47 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:15.560 I didn't beat Balderskate three, but I'm I I wouldn't even be playing 48 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.360 balder Skate three still if it wasn't for Game of the Year stuff. And 49 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.199 then yeah, the other one, Alan Wake two. I will try to 50 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.719 get out like I'm gonna try to play a bunch more of that and have 51 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:25.719 that beaten by the time we're like doing our finale and stuff. But other 52 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.680 than that, I've kept up with all the big games. I trust Mike, 53 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.479 Lucy and Tam enough, and I know that they've played more Ballderskate than 54 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:39.080 I ever will this year. I trust them, and like I, I've 55 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:44.039 tried Pickman, and I'm gonna continue playing Pickman. But I defer to your 56 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.960 opinion and Dan's and Mike's on this as well. And you know what, 57 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.400 back, Laura and I got the Alan wakefront. I think Lucy as well, 58 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.319 and Tak so yeah, yeah, al Went Tree seems like the one 59 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:59.000 that might have like the timing going for it and uh and everything. I 60 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.520 mean, I think Dan's gonna have it ranked relatively high, So I think 61 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.840 that's the one that has the strongest chance of really doing something here at the 62 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:09.240 end of the year. Can I tell you my fantasy booking for our own 63 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.879 game of the year, please, I want to hear it. Okay, 64 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:17.759 all right, I think Balder's Gate three and Alan Wake two are gonna split 65 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:23.040 the vote in such a dramatic I do think that's gonna happen too, that 66 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:29.160 either Pickman four or Tiers of the Kingdom will wind up at one or two. 67 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:34.720 Right. I think Pickman four could do something similar with Zelda if like 68 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:38.480 we like try to be like, Okay, we're gonna actually make a real 69 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:42.000 move for Pickman four and so we're all gonna move it up and move Zelder 70 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:47.439 around. But I think enough people will have Zelda high enough that still has 71 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:50.279 a real shot of getting it. So yes, and I do I agree 72 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:54.079 with you. I've been thinking the same thing that Balder Skate three and Alan 73 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.680 Lake are gonna split the vote a little bit, but it's like things still 74 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:00.720 get points if they're like just one below that. So really, and I 75 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:02.240 think it's like the game that's on most people's list is probably gonna have the 76 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.759 biggest chance. Here's here's the other cog in the wheel here, Grub, 77 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:10.199 is that we have yet to decide whether or not we are going to allow 78 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:15.639 Turbo, Sean, Nikki and Bailey to throw in votes into the Eurovision machine. 79 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.439 Yeah. I mean, I think this is something that as we're having 80 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:21.600 the conversation getting down to the to the from the fifty and then down to 81 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:27.480 the twenty if we see that we're all like at loggerheads about some of these 82 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.079 things. We're like, Okay, we got to throw in a wildcard here 83 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:32.199 to make sure that things can keep us on our toes. I think that's 84 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:36.040 an entire possibility that we need to It needs to be a wild card that 85 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:42.079 we can play if needed. I think, yeah, yeah, it's I 86 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.360 you know what. The more that we're talking about it now, I'm getting 87 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:48.079 excited about it, which is completely undoing any of the nervousness. So that's 88 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:50.759 fucking gold. Let's get into it. Yeah, but I'm looking forward to 89 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:55.480 it. I'll play more games tonight and then be ready for tomorrow, looking 90 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.720 forward to it. And that's what time is that tomorrow. We're starting that 91 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:01.480 at nine am, right, No game mold mornings. Yes, no no 92 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:08.120 games tomorrow. So we're starting in when we normally start the BombCast, right, 93 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:13.759 So no no BombCast Revengeance, no upf tomorrow, Game of the Year. 94 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.519 We're going until the wheels fall off for day one. Yep, it'll 95 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.879 be. It's gonna be a beefy one. So buffalo on everybody and hang 96 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.279 out with us. We're gonna have a lot of topics tomorrow a lot of 97 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.480 the categories. I mean, all right, let's explain what we do here 98 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:30.000 in the meantime most weekdays, I, Jeff garubblehelp piece your gaming life back 99 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.879 together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. 100 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.600 For all these topics, I'll get the input of a bona fide expert 101 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:40.079 who will make me look smart. If you were watching live on twitch welcome, 102 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.160 You can always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for 103 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.040 game Mes Mornings, or find therss on giant bomb dot com. You can 104 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:51.399 also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. 105 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.600 All right, we have a lot to get into, so let's start the 106 00:06:54.639 --> 00:07:00.000 morning mess with Bungeee polls Destiny to starter pack following massive fan blash. This 107 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:04.160 is from Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. Just a couple of days ago, 108 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:09.759 Bungee kicked off the latest and final season of Destiny Too with this known with 109 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:13.720 this known as Season of the Wish. At this time, the developer also 110 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.639 launched the Witcher collaboration, which drew criticism for its price, released a bunch 111 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.360 of new playable content which has seemingly not landed with fans all too well yet, 112 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:26.560 and debuted a starter pack for new players that got absolutely blasted by fans 113 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.279 pretty much as soon as it was announced due to its poor offerings. Now, 114 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.000 Bungie has taken to Twitter to address various criticisms and to announce that the 115 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:38.120 starter pack has been pulled from sale. Bungie notes that the pack is not 116 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.920 something bringing joy, which is why it has been removed from the stores. 117 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.199 The developer adds that there are other parts of Destiny two that new players should 118 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:49.360 want to dive into before chasing these exotic weapons, cosmetics, and upgrade materials. 119 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:54.680 To add to this, Bungee registers that taking fans to the blind Well 120 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.759 hasn't exactly landed as it hoped, and that players will only be asked to 121 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.959 return to the activity once more in the season in Week six. That's in 122 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:05.199 the weeds for Destiny fans, and I'm sure they're all caring about that. 123 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.360 But basically what happened here, Jan is they put out the starter pack and 124 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.079 it was it's like kind of like really slim pickings, and I think it 125 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.959 was upwards of twenty dollars for this thing, and fans kind of like lost 126 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.800 their minds and I think it's most mostly people who would never buy this, 127 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.480 but I think they were like imagining someone coming into Destiny seeing this thing called 128 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:30.439 a starter pack and feeling the need to buy it, and then realizing much 129 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.639 later that what they were getting there would have been I think a lot of 130 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.879 people described it as if you just logged into any other like MMO or online 131 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.000 service game, you would just get these things for free, like they would 132 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.000 just be loging bonuses, and so a bunch us like, well, I 133 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.600 want to charge twenty dollars for this. I think the story here Janet continues 134 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:52.159 to be running a live service game and figuring out how to make money in 135 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.720 the long term and to price things fairly while also being able to extract value 136 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.000 from having a game that is a live service. Still difficult even for the 137 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.120 studio that has the most information about how to run one of these, right, 138 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.919 yeah, one hundred percent. And I can see those veteran players being 139 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:13.159 worried about what this could potentially forecast further down the line. If this is 140 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.840 how they're trying to attract new players and entice new players to be like, 141 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.799 Hey, if you want to hit the ground running, go get this starter 142 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:24.480 pack. What are they going to try and sell or try and fleece veteran 143 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:30.679 players of Destiny too during this whole process. I also imagine part of this 144 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:37.320 is probably in reaction in reaction to the recent layoffs as well of like, 145 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:39.720 hey, you laid off all those people, you blame the players, and 146 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:45.360 now you're going to continue to make boneheaded decisions like this. Specifically, it 147 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.480 wouldn't fill me with any type of confidence if I was a die hard Destiny 148 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.000 to player. Yeah, and that seems to be some of the sentiment here 149 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.519 for sure. I think they're like, oh man, do you guys still 150 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.679 not have the stuff figured it out? Is it really that desperate over there? 151 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:03.960 I think this is how it goes though. These companies try stuff and 152 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.840 in terms of micro transactions, and then the fans are very vocal and they 153 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.039 find out, hey, we can't with the studio finds out we can't get 154 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.200 away with this. We're gonna pull it back and try something different. And 155 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.120 you know, we've seen this not just from Bunge, although they've done it 156 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.360 a lot now, but we see this from like respond with Apex Legends. 157 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.200 They've had multiple instances there where where people like we do not like the way 158 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.799 that these skins are priced, and we're gonna be mad about it until you 159 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.919 do something forcing respond to eventually have to do something, and it's like then 160 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.559 they reintroduce stuff and it's not that much better, but it's a little bit 161 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.080 better, and then things quiet down. So at a certain point, this 162 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.320 almost feels like an opening and a negotiation where they're like, Hey, we're 163 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.399 gonna throw something out there and we'll see what the reactions like, and if 164 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.080 we can get away with it, we'll just leave it. And if we 165 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.360 don't, well, we're prepared to scale thanks back and try again. And 166 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:52.080 I think it sphinx to like, really, what you have to be with 167 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.240 the live service game like this is you have to be nimble and and you've 168 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:00.559 got to recognize that it's an ongoing relationship and you're gonna ge and fights with 169 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.399 your partner, and the partner being the game players. Right. Yeah, 170 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.639 it is a delicate dance that I thought Bungie would be better equipped to handle 171 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:16.120 given that they're like very dominant in this space and Destiny two has been out 172 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.279 for how long now? A long time? Yeah, I mean I don't 173 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.039 even know that we're getting like to the ten year period for since Destiny one. 174 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.960 I don't know how long Destiny two has been out. I don't even 175 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:30.639 know at this point if hitting the reset button and framing something as Destiny three 176 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.679 will entice enough people, given how much of a bad taste is currently in 177 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.559 people's mouths, and it's so far off even if it were to happen, 178 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.279 it's like a whole other world that we would be in by the time we 179 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.679 got to a Destiny three at this point. Yeah, I just I don't 180 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.159 know what's going on with Bunge Grub. I feel like they were hovering on 181 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:56.120 like the medium to okay side of news stories for the longest time, and 182 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:03.320 then this past year and some change just not doing hot. Yeah. I 183 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.960 think it's easy to be like, well, you know, Sony owns them 184 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.240 now, so this is all Sony's fault. I think this is it more 185 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.000 indicative of things were probably heading in this direction where they were feeling a little 186 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.159 bit desperate in a corner and worried about player retention, and and Sony just 187 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.679 happened to purchase them because they were at a point where Bunche's like, we 188 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.360 should just sell now while we're at a high point compared to where we're probably 189 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.120 going to be in a couple of years now. Do you think there is 190 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.679 that all a possibility? And I fully believe that you're right, Grub that 191 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.840 Bungee kind of was headed in this direction already and then the timing just happened 192 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:41.960 to work out of getting acquired by Sony. Do you think they were waiting 193 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:46.519 for something big, like an acquisition like this to kind of take the heat 194 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.279 off of themselves and like player bases or the general public would be like, 195 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.279 well, I guess it's Sony's fault. I mean, I think that's built 196 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.000 into the deal a little bit. Yeah, I think that's part of it. 197 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:01.679 Mostly though, they're like, hey, we have at you know, 198 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:07.440 sent off our final responsibility, the final say the people actually at the end 199 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:11.960 of the end of the day responsible for ensuring that Bungie is a strong business 200 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:16.279 is no longer us. And so when we get into a corner, it's 201 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.879 like we are going to have to like, okay, hey, people who 202 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.159 let Sony, what do you want us to do? And I think that 203 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.320 that is a better place to be in than being like, Okay, the 204 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:31.519 buck fully stops with us, and now we have to make tough decisions, 205 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:37.639 or leverage the company against itself and begin or sell off to some venture capitalist 206 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.519 firm. As things start to spiral out of control. It's like these things 207 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.159 were years and years away from happening, and obviously Bungee would have had a 208 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.679 lot of other suitors that would have been interested, but they could probably see 209 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.919 themselves heading in that direction if they can't pull themselves out of this not nosedive, 210 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.000 but definitely decline. And this is we're like, we talk about like 211 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:00.720 stories like this a lot, and every developer and every public seems to be 212 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.960 in this situation where it's like they've had a track record of success. They 213 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.240 see ways to continue that success, they see ways to grow that success. 214 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:13.080 But now making games is such a long and laborious and expensive process that by 215 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.399 the time they get there, things could have shifted so much from underneath them 216 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.000 that the ideas they had that were once good no longer feel good. And 217 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.000 we definitely saw that with a lot of live service games or it's you know, 218 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.000 people just won't care about the games themselves, and it's like that's scary, 219 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.919 and it feels like, oh, everything that we're doing is a risk 220 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.799 now. And I think that's where these companies are like, yes, it's 221 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.720 time to sell, it's time to exit, and with this unknown period of 222 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.399 what gaming is going to be like for the next couple of years, that's 223 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.320 what we don't want to be the ones responsible for figuring that out. And 224 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:48.120 I don't blame them, because if I have no answers either, right, 225 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.799 I mean, I have no idea what these companies should be doing other than 226 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.480 yeah, I guess make keep making Destiny to the way it is. And 227 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:58.000 I mean my idea would be like, do the thing that Overwatch two did 228 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.600 and just call something Destin three and update Destiny two. That doesn't seem like 229 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:05.399 it's a good idea, but that's the best I got, So I don't. 230 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:07.759 Again, I don't blame them. I don't know, add anime ladies 231 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.240 and dudes to it. Okay, that's a pretty good idea though, Uh 232 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:18.919 well yeah, yeah, it's it is wild grubs seeing games, ips, 233 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.519 companies, developers, publishers I thought, for the longest time were too big 234 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:28.639 to fail, not necessarily failing, but tripping over themselves constantly. Yep. 235 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:35.279 And I mean so when Sony purchased Bungie and the idea was Bunge's going to 236 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.000 bring in all of this learnings, as a executive would call it, all 237 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.240 these lessons that they've taken away from building live service games for years and years 238 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:48.480 now. I think really it's going to be a lot of Bunge going into 239 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.000 these S twos and explaining why things won't work and probably not having a lot 240 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.039 of answers to be like, well, how do we make this idea work 241 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.960 for this game? Because I think the answer seems to be, based on 242 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:00.720 what we see developers do over and over again, the answer seems to be 243 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:04.600 you're gonna have to do it the hard way and just try stuff until people 244 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:08.399 stop yelling at you, and that again that seems like really risky for these 245 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:11.039 companies to take on. I think that's why Sony is suddenly like, oh, 246 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.240 boy, don't know about all these live service games and not Sony's not 247 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.000 alone in that. Every company is sort of feeling that way. What if 248 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.320 Marathon is just Destiny but like stylized and not in space? Yeah, I 249 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.600 mean they did say it's an extraction shooter, right, So what if it's 250 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.559 like, yeah, just basically Destiny, but with we have this extracted Destiny 251 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.960 from Destiny here. It is beautiful. Yeah. Have you ever played any 252 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.759 of the extracted shooters? You ever try like the war Zone extraction game that 253 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:42.639 I cannot remember the name of? Or park Off? You ever get into 254 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:48.080 Tarkoff? No? Damn, No, too much pressure. Yeah, but 255 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:49.720 I'll play it if you want to play it, grub All right, Well, 256 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:53.120 DMZ is the one. I think we should probably like figure out what 257 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.240 is the most friendliest one to try out so we can get a good idea 258 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:59.799 of it and try it out. I don't know, We'll see at some 259 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:04.359 point point, Okay. Dan Hauser's Absurd Ventures has two new ips on the 260 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:11.000 way. This comes from Smagaliso Similane at Destructoid. Dan Hauser left an uneasable 261 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.000 mark on gaming through his work at Rockstar, though he has since moved on 262 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.359 to new projects. This includes two new ips his entertainment company is working on. 263 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.440 You shouldn't expect traditional gaming experiences from Absurd Ventures. The first IP, 264 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.319 American Caper, focuses on two families facing a world of corrupt business, inept 265 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:32.279 politic politics, and bungling crime. This will explore will explore this universe. 266 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.319 Three graphic novel illustrated by comic book artist Simon B. Bisley. The first 267 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:40.119 story arrives in twenty twenty four. A Better Paradise is the second ip. 268 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:44.559 It's an existential suspense thriller being made with the help of q Code Media. 269 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.480 Interestingly, it'll take the form of a twelve episode audio fiction series. It 270 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.279 also arrives in twenty twenty four. Houser is a co founder of Rockstar that 271 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.400 has served as a writer on the Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead Redemption franchise. 272 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:03.400 Is this what your work affecting from Dan Hauser when he started up his 273 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:10.319 new thing? No, not at all. I don't want to say that 274 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:15.759 they're very generic names, but they're kind of generic names. Scrub. Yeah, 275 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.519 they definitely are. I mean, I guess he's probably coming at from 276 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.079 like Grand Theft Auto was a pretty generic thing too, But I don't know. 277 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.160 American Caper maybe it's even more so than that. American Caper feels like 278 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:30.079 a knockoff title, trying to ape Grant. Have you seen the logo for 279 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:34.759 it? Yes, it looks like nineteen seventies American or Captain America a little 280 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:41.160 bit. It does? It does? And when I didn't read the or 281 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.519 No, the part of Simon Bisley being involved in this, and it's interesting 282 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.559 having two different types of movie you don't know, which includes me. Simon 283 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:55.519 Bisley's responsible for Lobo. People are saying in chat, Yes, Lobo okay, 284 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:57.640 that's pretty cool. I always always enjoyed a lobou. He's a Lobo 285 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:04.240 guy, Okay, I enjoyed from a distance previously. He also I think 286 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:11.519 he did the Halo Halo graphic novel as well. Oh really okay, Yeah, 287 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.680 if you've ever seen, if you've familiar with the Lobo art, it's 288 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:19.680 like, really muscly dudes, right, yeah, just really mustly dudes. 289 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:26.920 American caver does look like the one of the Captain America title treatments. I 290 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.599 don't know. It could be fun. I just don't didn't expect this from 291 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:33.640 Dan Houser or yes, dan Hauser or Dan Hauser. Yes, I wanted 292 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:34.880 to say Dan Housen. I know me, I always do. I always 293 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.319 feel like I am saying it even when I'm saying dan Hauser, Dan Hauser. 294 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.599 Yeah, this is uh. I mean, I think it's interesting. 295 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.440 I guess it's probably the kind of thing where, hey, if you are 296 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:51.160 coming at it from a storytelling perspective and you want to build up these media 297 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:55.559 properties and you can always make a game later. I guess. I mean 298 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:59.839 nothing, none of this says anything about video games, so maybe none of 299 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.640 these things will actually interact with games at all in any way. Or he's 300 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:07.279 like testing the waters for these ideas to see if there's interest in them, 301 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.920 and then we'll follow up on them later. If this makes sense, And 302 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:15.480 I guess that is an interesting way of doing things. I just don't know 303 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.640 if it's the kind of thing. It's definitely not the thing I was expecting 304 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:25.799 for sure. Yeah, maybe dan Hauser's trying to create the universe or create 305 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:30.279 the story attachment to the story first, so then people eventually want to play 306 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:37.240 as these characters that he's introducing. Or maybe he's playing forty chess grub. 307 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.799 Maybe maybe the stories are so complicated with an American caper and a better paradise 308 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:47.640 that you gotta lay the foundation. Yeah. I suppose It's also likely that 309 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:52.720 he's aware of just how thirsty Hollywood is for ip oh. Yeah, and 310 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:59.680 he's like, we could make an audio podcast series for something, and then 311 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:03.200 I bet we will be able to license that to Hollywood for a film, 312 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.400 and then that money will pay for us as we decide to like shift into 313 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.359 making a game and we could synergize that stuff. That seems like the let's 314 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:14.000 put this up on the whiteboard. What does our strategy look like? I 315 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.720 bet that's what he's thinking. I don't know. How do you think that's 316 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.359 something that can be pulled off here? I think so. And you know, 317 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.519 Dan Hauser is definitely one of those names that have been floated around of 318 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.960 like, why don't you make the jump to Hollywood or trying and make the 319 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.319 jump to the silver screen or whatever, And as far as I know, 320 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.559 he hasn't or hasn't been involved with anything like that. I don't think so. 321 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:40.000 This could be him testing the waters for that completely, or just wanting 322 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:44.680 to do the whole process himself of just having the whole trans media approach and 323 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:47.759 just doing it all within house and just waiting for it to pick up enough 324 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:52.519 steam. Do you think this would work if alexandro Ddario was involved in all 325 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.440 these things? Oh? I'm there with you, right there? Yeah? 326 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.720 Yeah, yeah? You know, first season of White Lotus, Uh huh, 327 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:04.920 first season of True Detective, Yeah yeah, first round of movies of 328 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.079 Percy Jackson, The Lightning Thief. Of course, yes, I can't remember 329 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.519 the first thing I saw right, I'm trying to remember now, but she 330 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.039 was one of the actors in we did the Box Office game before we started 331 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.960 everybody. So if you're confused about why we're talking about Alexandra Zadario, that's 332 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.359 the only reason. She's the new best friend of Giant Bombs. She is. 333 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:23.480 People don't know this. I'm gonn get her to write a guest list 334 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:27.519 top ten this year. It'll be great. Alright, So we're gonna take 335 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.240 a quick break. We got a lot more news though, and we'll get 336 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:38.000 to all that right after this. We're back. We're back. We're ready 337 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:42.920 to talking about more news over here on Game Mess Mornings on Giant Bomb Jeff 338 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:47.279 Grab that's Shannachoa. Let's get back into it. Hello. Resident Evil four 339 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.319 Remakes of VR mode has been given a December release date. This comes from 340 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:55.079 Chriscoing at VGC. Capcom has announced the release date for the Resident Evil for 341 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:59.039 remakes VR mode. The new mode, which will be released exclusively for PlayStation 342 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:03.200 VR two, will be available on December eighth. The mode will be available 343 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.400 as a free DLC update for the game, and a demo version will be 344 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:10.160 released on the same day. Although not yet confirmed, it's likely that the 345 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:14.000 VR update will let players play through the entirety of Residue before remake in virtual 346 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:17.720 reality. It's where they haven't confirmed that yet, Like, yeah, exactly 347 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:19.319 what's possible in that? But either way, I mean, I don't know 348 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.400 if you probably still don't have a PlayStation VR two, Dan got ours. 349 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.839 I don't have one. But are you curious about this at all? Yes? 350 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:33.119 Yes, Actually, after checking out the Metaquest three and really enjoying it, 351 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.319 really enjoy mine too, I was curious as to like a you know, 352 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.680 a full I don't want to say a full fledged VR device. That's 353 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:45.079 what the medic Quest three is one, but like one geared for the console 354 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.720 experience like the PSVR two. And I do remember when Tam and I checked 355 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:53.880 it out, like sometime last year, it being very comfortable and being very 356 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:59.519 tactile with the controllers and everything, especially with Resident Evil four. You know, 357 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.279 I remember a lot of folks very being in love and in fear of 358 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:12.359 RI seven and being mixed on Ari Residevil village. But Ari four, I 359 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.559 feel like, would strike the balance of being disgusting and gross but also very 360 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:21.319 well suited to VR, especially because Yo, this came out on the Wei 361 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.519 Grub. Yes it did. Yeah, so they already know how to do 362 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:29.480 the motion tracking controls in that for sure. Yeah, I'm there with you, 363 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:33.000 RAZIEVIL seven was gonna always be too scary for me to try it, 364 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.000 even though I know a lot of VR purist in VR enthusiasts swear by that. 365 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:38.920 They're like, that is an incredible experience, and I believe them. 366 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.640 I just would never have the guts to be able to do that myself. 367 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.799 And then in Brenzie Williams by then, I was like, yeah, I'm 368 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:49.279 good, but I've kind of come back around, and big part of it 369 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:53.000 is messing around with the Quest three and really enjoying that, and mostly that's 370 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.640 be impressed by the pass through, but whatever. I'm also like looking for 371 00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:03.039 more VR games on there to play because that excitement. But I'm not so 372 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.480 excited by VR that I'm going to go out and spend another couple hundred dollars 373 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.279 on a VR two just to play this. I would need the promise of 374 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.119 more, And I think we had a ton of conversations at the time of 375 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.200 PlayStation VR two launching where we're like, hey, we're going to need to 376 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:21.559 see what the support looks like. And I think it was like it kind 377 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:25.599 of came in right in our lower expectations of there's not going to be a 378 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.559 ton convince you to get a VR two beyond what they launched with, and 379 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.480 that seems to have been the case with the exception of this now. And 380 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.680 do you think that changes the calculus at all? I don't think that changes 381 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.279 the calculus at all, especially knowing that I have to be hardwired into the 382 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:42.400 console, and after trying a device like the Metaquest three where it is just 383 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:48.400 a wearable and it does the tracking all on the device, I think I 384 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.960 would be interested in, like maybe a better graphical fidelity. But shelling out 385 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.759 what how how much does this now groub five fifty? I think it's still 386 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.880 five to fifty, Yeah, five point fifty to play Resident Evil four. 387 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:06.599 It still isn't enough of like a killer app for me to want to jump 388 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:11.920 in. I'm still on the camp that they should put out half Live Alex 389 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:17.559 on this bitch and then that would that would greatly entice me. I know 390 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:19.759 when we did that stream where we checked out the PSVR too with Dan, 391 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:25.279 there were a couple of neat things were That's what it was, Greb just 392 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:27.119 neat things. Neat things. Yeah, I mean, I think overall that's 393 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:32.200 where VR still is with the exception of Alex, and for me, that's 394 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.400 mostly pretty fund. That's pretty cool because there's also like a lot of cool 395 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:38.839 stuff happening in like the homebrew and that the modding scenes that makes VR interesting 396 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.200 at least on PC, which is why again, why I'm like, I'm 397 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.400 not really considered in PSVR two all that much, although the person that got 398 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.960 PSVR working on PC says he's pretty close to getting PSBR two working on PC, 399 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.160 even though he at one time, one time he was the person that 400 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.359 said this would be impossible. Sounds like you're gonna need to buy like a 401 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:59.160 dongle, like a specialized noggle to make it connect to a PC. But 402 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.440 regardless, again, that would be pretty cool. That's still not gonna. 403 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.079 I mean, I have the index develove index, I'm really happy with that. 404 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.720 I still haven't played Alex. I'm like, I'm gonna can't keep considering, 405 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.400 like maybe it's time to do that. We're talking about doing some stuff 406 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.359 with the Quest threes and maybe playing like table tennis and things like that. 407 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.160 I'm like, I want to be doing things in VR. I do think 408 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.400 that it's still an interesting tech and those small, neat things like table tennis 409 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.480 really get me. I really enjoy that sort of thing. But I am 410 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.880 not going around thinking, boy, I hope they give me a reason to 411 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.279 want to buy a VR two. I am not thinking about PlayStation VR two 412 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.000 ninety nine percent of the time until we get stories like this. Yeah. 413 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:42.240 I every time we do read a story about PSVR two, I also think, 414 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.759 besides bringing up Half Life Alex constantly of you know, where's where's the 415 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:52.680 next astrobot? Yep, bring out that little hooligan, Bring that little bastard 416 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.519 out. Stop hiding them away. We need them, Yeah, we need 417 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:56.799 them. Pick them out of that PS one he fell into. Come on, 418 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.079 it's right, we need him now more than ever. That's how That's 419 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.359 how I would put it. Netflix is bringing Grand Theft Auto the Trilogy to 420 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.240 mobile devices next month. This is from Jason Finelli at GameSpot. Shout out 421 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:14.119 to Jason. The ever growing Netflix mobile game catalog will receive a major addition 422 00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.279 next month, as the company has announced to deal with Rockstar Games to bring 423 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:22.920 thet bring the Grand Theft Auto the Trilogy definitive addition to Netflix Apps on December 424 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:27.359 fourteenth. The move will see all three PlayStation two era GTA titles ported to 425 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:33.599 mobile devices exclusively to Netflix members. The games will be available available to download 426 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.400 through the Netflix app, which will then forward users to either the iOS app 427 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.200 store or the Google play Store for download. That's how it works on Netflix, 428 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:45.119 everybody. Yeah, Okay, a couple questions. One, do you 429 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.799 think this moves the needle for Netflix? Because this is a pretty big brand 430 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:55.400 name. But you know, the Grand Theft Auto mobile games have been available 431 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:57.119 for years and years and years, maybe not these updates, I suppose. 432 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.839 I guess that's what this is saying, this that these updates were actually released 433 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.920 on iOS or Android and now you can get them exclusively, excluively through Netflix. 434 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:10.319 But do you think that is like a big get for Netflix? Yeah? 435 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.119 Yeah, I think sometimes we underestimate the power of Grand Theft Auto here, 436 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:21.960 maybe just because you know, we don't really it doesn't really occupy our 437 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:27.119 mind space, and like GTA Online is just seems like another impenetrable behemoth at 438 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.960 this point for me personally, And we hate red Dead redemption too. We 439 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:37.440 just all of Giant Bomb, all of it, all of us. Yeah, 440 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:42.279 but I think GTA has enough name recognition and the cultural zeitgeist still, 441 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:48.839 Like on Instagram recently, there's been like a filter, like a post thing 442 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.759 of six games that define me, and like a bunch of friends are putting 443 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:59.559 on Vice City or San Andreas, and I didn't realize how much those two 444 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:07.119 games pecifically and to an extent GTA three has like permeated millennials across the board. 445 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.200 I mean, I think it was like it was defining sort of gaming 446 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:11.799 moment, even for me, someone who grew up as like such like a 447 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.839 Nintendo fanboy. Uh, going over to a friend's house after right as I'm 448 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.960 graduating high school, spending all day just smoking weed and playing Grand Theft for 449 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.759 three, Like that's what we did for like a year and a half. 450 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.880 And like so for me, Grand Theft Auto three is like that definitive experience. 451 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.000 And I do think about going back, and then I didn't. I 452 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.559 spent some time with My City and not almost no time really with San Andreas, 453 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.200 which is like I maybe I do want to go back and finally play 454 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.599 San Andreas, the one that seems to have the most going on and I 455 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:42.119 know people really love it, but even that, you know, at a 456 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.039 certain point it's like, oh, you know, I have more fun whenever 457 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.000 I go to play like China Town Wars, the DS game and stuff like 458 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.440 that. I'm like, I think I think Grand Theft Ato got more refined 459 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.480 over time, and it is still a very much a Rockstar game. But 460 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.319 I think the sandbox of the open world is decently fun still, and I 461 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.559 can have that fun in GTA five and it's not going to be that different 462 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.000 if I were to go to back to these other games. But I don't 463 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.079 know. I mean, I think someone in chat said this is a medium 464 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:11.400 sized get. I think that's right. I think this is something that is 465 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.680 going to draw some attention to Netflix games in a way that like Into the 466 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:21.160 Breach, despite being an incredible game, just couldn't it just couldn't do that, 467 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:25.559 right. Yeah. There's also Hades, which I feel like set the 468 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.720 world on fire. That's a big one. Yes, I think that's like 469 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.640 that was their biggest get up until this for sure, and maybe in a 470 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.960 way a way, Hades is still bigger like Grand Theft Auto. That name 471 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.599 is massive. I mean, it is up there with Mickey mouse in a 472 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.160 lot of ways in terms of brand recognitions. So oh definitely, yeah, 473 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.519 is this so? Is this I've never bothered to check this, But the 474 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.720 Netflix gaming is that if you have a Netflix subscription anywhere, so it's not 475 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.680 region locked or anything. I mean, got a good point. I don't 476 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.680 know, maybe that I want to say, and this is just me guessing 477 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:07.599 from what I'm basically kind of half remember, I want to say that Netflix 478 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.359 gaming isn't globally available yet. Okay, maybe so available in certain territories. 479 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.400 But but I you know, I have my Netflix subscription and I go to 480 00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.640 play Netflix shows on my television. I don't see the games there, I 481 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:22.480 don't think still, and then I go on my phone and then there's the 482 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.640 games tab and that's where you can play these games because it's all mobile stuff 483 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.599 so far. And yeah, I've you know, played around with it a 484 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.039 little bit. You liked Point B, right, you played Point B. 485 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.079 I played too much? Point P the point P boy. Yes, I 486 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.000 was the Point P Boy. Yeah. It was a quick it was a 487 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.920 quick toilet game. Yes you were. I think you're the one that told 488 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.880 me about it. I was like, I had a pretty good time playing 489 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.799 that in the Toilet as well. That's a top tier toilet game. Maybe 490 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:57.519 that should be a category toilet Game of the Year. Write that down chat 491 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.640 so we remember the other thing, the other question I had about this. 492 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:07.119 Do you mind that The Grand Theft Auto the Trilogy Definitive Edition is only available 493 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:14.279 on mobile through Netflix? I don't mind. Yeah, I personally don't mind. 494 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.400 I've had Netflix consistently for years, right, and I'm not in any 495 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.160 danger of canceling it personally. But I get it. I get people who 496 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.599 are frustrated by this. Oh totally. Yeah. The fact that you have 497 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:30.160 to not only like downloading an app isn't that much of a hurdle to cross 498 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:36.599 anymore, But having to pay for another subscription just to play GTA the Trilogy 499 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:42.200 Definitive Edition, I can see that being a hassle for people. Yeah, 500 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.480 I want to. I'm like, let me just I'm gonna go to play 501 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.319 dot Google dot Com. I'm gonna type in Grand Theft Auto. I just 502 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.519 want to see what comes up, because I mean, grant, I know, 503 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:55.759 Grand Theft Auto has been available on mobile for years and years. Yeah, 504 00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.400 there's Grand Theft Auto San Andreas for seven dollars still available right now. 505 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.839 Five dollars. Three is five dollars. I guess these are These are the 506 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.639 original versions, not the updated definitive ones. But a lot of people prefer 507 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:13.159 those anyhow, because those definitive updates, who are fucking busted in terms of 508 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.039 the way they looked when they launched. So oh the rain, Yeah the 509 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:20.400 rain, and yeah, all of the AI upscaling on some of the characters 510 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.920 that made them look like that one lady that re resurfaced that painting and made 511 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:27.679 of Jesus made them look all fuzzy. Yeah, the fuzzy Jesus versions of 512 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.800 Grand Aft Auto are not preferential for a lot of people. All right, 513 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.519 let's move along here. Remnant and Remnant two have made their way to game 514 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.000 Pass. This comes from Alex Hopley, a game reactor. Game Pass usually 515 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.000 likes to make a big song and dance when an important title lands on game 516 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.440 Pass, but for whatever reason, the addition of Remnant from the Ashes and 517 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.599 its SEQL Remnant two have been added to the subscription service without any fanfare. 518 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.519 Right now, you could check out the games on the front page of the 519 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.559 game Pass website. Unfortunately, you won't be able to pick up the Remnant 520 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.760 two DLC The Awaken King as part of your game Pass subscription, but the 521 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.760 State inter version of the game is available. This is a pretty big get, 522 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.599 I think. Yeah, in another year, Remnant two is one I 523 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.119 would have spent a lot more time with, and I kind of regret not 524 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:13.159 spending more time with it. It's one that I do want to go back 525 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.639 and check in on and maybe play some more of. But it also seems 526 00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:21.000 like an ideal get for game Pass. It's like that is it's right in 527 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:25.800 its wheelhouse right on. I know that I've seen the next Slander crew play 528 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.280 a lot of Remnant two and really dig into it. Yeah, it is 529 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:36.920 another game that I've been by curious on, but now I don't have to 530 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.360 be because I can just download it with game Pass. Yep, they they 531 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.199 did. Actually this story is from last night. They did this morning post 532 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.119 a newswire a blog about this where they talked about Remnants coming as well as 533 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.280 Remnant two, and then coming soon is Spirit of the North Steam World build. 534 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:58.039 It's coming tomorrow because that's when that game launches, and I've been I've 535 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.800 been playing that and big thumbs up for me. Clone Drone in the Danger 536 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:06.440 Zone is coming December fifth. Rise of the Tomb Raider coming December fifth. 537 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.920 Oh, while The Iron's Hot is coming December fifth. World War The Aftermath 538 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:15.360 December fifth. Goat Simulator three, which I enjoyed. I wonder if that 539 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.679 one was fun one of that one's ever has taken off the way Goat Simulator 540 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.760 did with the kids. I have no idea. I bet this will help 541 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.280 a lot. That's coming December seventh, Against the Storm December eighth, Ten 542 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:30.679 Hearts December twelfth, and far Crist six is coming December fourteenth, So there 543 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.920 you go. I think Remnant and Remnant two hitting game Pass is going to 544 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.840 do wonders for the player base. Agreed, because I feel like it injected 545 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:44.440 a little bit more life into Greb. Do you remember Outriders? Yes, 546 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.880 definitely. Yeah, I feel launched on game Pass and I think that was 547 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.079 a huge help to that game. Yes. Yeah, I think it's since 548 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.639 left game Pass though, but yeah, it probably boosted their player base an 549 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.039 insane amount. Yes, I mean I think we probably would not have talked 550 00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:06.239 about Outriders in any real way had it not been for game Pass. Yeah, 551 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.719 I think I think it would have been rory really like Outriders shout out 552 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.800 to Matt Rory's outriders. Then yeah, Rom the two's one I want to 553 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.280 spend some more time with though, so we'll see saying and make that happen. 554 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.760 Xbox is explaining why it doesn't reveal console sales anymore. This is from 555 00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.880 Eddie Mcoo, a game spot. In twenty fifteen, Microsoft stopped announcing Xbox 556 00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.639 sales numbers, and now the company has shed more light on that decision. 557 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:34.079 Xbox CFO Tim Stewart said it to Wills Fargo twenty twenty three TMT Summit this 558 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.960 week that Microsoft doesn't publicly disclose these figures because, as Microsoft sees it, 559 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.880 a unit sales number alone doesn't provide the clearest picture of how the Xbox brand 560 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.079 is performing overall. Basically, Stuart said, at first it was like, 561 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.480 what are you doing. You're the Xbox business and you're not giving us console 562 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.760 sales numbers. That makes no sense. But it was really the first point 563 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.400 of us saying no, no, it's about content and services. Stewart said 564 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.159 he measures the measures the success of Xbox by the number of customers it has 565 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.480 and how much money Xbox as a brand and Xbox is making these days. 566 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.760 And not just console sales. I continue to think, like, yeah, 567 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.440 that's a that's a little convenient. But at a certain point I have you 568 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:19.679 have to just start believing them right where they are deemphasizing the console sales because 569 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.920 they are looking beyond that already and they have been for a long time. 570 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.960 And they repeat this point over and over and over again. You know, 571 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.239 we had Phil Spencer on the couch and talked to him and he was like, 572 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.199 he was like, yeah, again, we are not thinking of things 573 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:36.639 that way. We're not doing the console war stuff because you know, or 574 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.559 not in any real way because we're in third place and we don't intend to 575 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.639 try to like really change that. We are looking at an alternative strategy, 576 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.239 and I think, I mean, it's it's hard for me still, it's 577 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.280 still hard to like wrap my mind around that, because again, I think 578 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.519 the whole idea is get people in your network, and the best way to 579 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.920 do that is with the console, where they can only be in your network, 580 00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:58.239 so when they spend money, you get a cut of every little bit 581 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.000 of that money. And by not selling consoles that that becomes a much more 582 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.639 difficult task because Windows is open and so people are installing Steam, and then 583 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.679 Steam gets a cut of everything on PC and you're not getting that. So 584 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.599 it's definitely not in apples to apples thing where it's like, well, if 585 00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.400 we have a user on PC versus a user on console, that's the same 586 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:21.599 thing. It's not the same thing. So but if the overall numbers are 587 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.199 growing for them, then I mean, it's hard to argue with the results 588 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.599 at a certain point. And I think that's what they're trying to say. 589 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.519 I don't know, do you think that this? Do you believe them? 590 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.239 Finally, because I think I'm getting there where I believe them that they really 591 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.239 have fully deemphasized console sales. I think I've been I believe them for a 592 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:43.239 while now, and it hammerd the point home when Pill and Matt Booty we're 593 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.679 on the GB at night couch this year, plainly saying and have continued to 594 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:55.440 plainly say that they are deemphasizing the importance of not hawking consoles, but like 595 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.199 making consoles the big part of their gaming strategy. Because at this point, 596 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:06.400 like I'm thinking, and what I want most from Xbox and Microsoft is give 597 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:10.559 me a small portable device to play my Xbox game Pass games. Give me 598 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:17.079 perhaps an Xbox portal maybe, or an easier ability to play it on something 599 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:21.000 like the Steam Deck or whatever. I know that there's hoops to jump through 600 00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.599 where you can kind of get it running on a Steam Deck. I would 601 00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:28.840 just like something more reliable, and I guess I could explore an Asis Roger 602 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.039 with that. But for the longest time now I feel like, yeah, 603 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:37.199 now I fully believe that they not that they don't care about the Xbox anymore 604 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.519 because that's their maybe not even their bread and butter at this point, but 605 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:47.199 like Xbox game Pass and the brand in its entirety is more important than just 606 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.360 the Xbox itself at this point, especially with like the different skews that they've 607 00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:58.599 been making for the series S and X of like this doesn't seem like a 608 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.559 major thing, or it's like, all right, cool, we got these 609 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.559 sick raps for the Box one now all right mm hmm, yeah, one 610 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.000 that looks like a speaker. We've got more memory in it. I think 611 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:14.440 they know that the Xbox console itself is still very important to accomplishing their brand 612 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:19.760 goals of making people feel strong affinity for Xbox, because that that that's the 613 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.639 thing that like Phil Spencer talked about, and that that's email that not leaked 614 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.519 but was part of evidence that we got to read about of him explaining the 615 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.159 failures of all these third party publishers like EA and and Take two and all 616 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:35.320 these other ones that didn't have this brand affinity, so that when they got 617 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.079 into a world where anyone could make games, that anyone could put out games 618 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.440 and they had to compete with a million indie games, all these publishers were 619 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.960 selling a situation where it's like, Hey, we're EA, We're putting out 620 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:45.559 a game. Don't you care? Or were you we stuff? We put 621 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:46.840 out a game, don't you care? And ninety five percent of people are 622 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.079 like, no, we don't care that your EA or that your UBI seff 623 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.679 that is that means nothing to us. So Xbox has been able to create 624 00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.800 that affinity, but that comes with expectations of like, we have this affinity 625 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.559 for you because we have high expectations and are you going to meet those expectations, 626 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.480 And it's been tough for them to actually do that. So Yeah, 627 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:15.760 it's also so interesting to think about Xbox not really having a dog in the 628 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:23.440 console wars anymore, because I feel like the Xbox die hards in PlayStation diehards 629 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:30.119 as well are continuing to fight the console war when neither of those companies are 630 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:31.880 interested in that at all anymore. Yeah, I mean, I think that 631 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:37.159 they're interested in as far as they're happy to have people who feel that strongly 632 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.159 about their brand, But I don't know if they're fully ready to reciprocate that 633 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.840 love with exactly what these people are asking for, which is to go in 634 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:51.719 there and destroy PlayStation whatever. That looks like that's just not the that's not 635 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.000 the game plan, that's not the strategy, and it won't be ever, 636 00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.480 at least under this leadership. And I don't think it makes a lot of 637 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.199 sense, to a lot of sense for them to even try to make the 638 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:06.440 strategy. They also said during this interview, the CFO mentioned that they want 639 00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.639 to bring Game Past to PlayStation and intended devices, so they're saying that still 640 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:13.480 they want to bring it to every Spring possible. He also talked about AI 641 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:15.159 and how developer's going to use it. But he's the CFO, what is 642 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:21.280 he now? Total Ward dev Creative Assembly is returning to real time strategy games. 643 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.199 So this comes from Georgiana GameSpot. It looks like Creative Assembly is going 644 00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:29.400 back to creating games in the real time strategy genre after the cancelation of its 645 00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:37.000 multiplayer shooter Jan what is it called? Remember this one? Total Total, 646 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:42.840 Total War, Totally War Hyenas. After the cancelation of Hyenas, during a 647 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.920 financial briefing, Siga president Haruki Satomi said, to put it simply, Creative 648 00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:51.280 Assembly was good at offline games in the artist genre, but they took on 649 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:55.199 the challenge of developing hyenas at an online game in the FPS genre and then 650 00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:00.360 basically said, We're not gonna have to do that anymore. I don't want 651 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:01.960 to like say what brand they're working with, but I have heard like Creative 652 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:07.079 Assembly is going hard back into RTS and then they will be working with a 653 00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:12.559 major IP in the years to come. Uh, And I'm pretty excited about 654 00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.159 it, but I'm kind of let things settle before and make sure that that 655 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.679 is one happening before I say what it is. But it does sound like 656 00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:23.159 that is they're going to stay in that bubble and jam My question to you 657 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.159 is, how are you feeling about developers having a sort of stick to their 658 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:29.880 bubble. I think it makes sense they're like, oh, do what you're 659 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:34.639 good at but at a certain point, developers do want to like spread their 660 00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.760 leg stretch their legs, Jesus Christ. Developers want to spread their legs, 661 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.480 Jan right, am I right? Or what? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 662 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.800 because they want one foot in what is old and one foot territory. 663 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.079 That's right, that's the rattle on that old line. Exactly. That's that's 664 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.719 what you meant to say, Greg, say it exactly. Yeah, yeah, 665 00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.039 that's that's why. That's what they mean when they say spread your legs 666 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:06.199 and expand your thought. Yeah, exactly. I'm pulling for creative assembly as 667 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:09.599 always. I like to point out they carried Sega on their back throughout the 668 00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.840 two thousands when Sega just did not know what to do, and it was 669 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.639 all PC gaming all the time, making them money throughout that era, and 670 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:21.760 that was you know, it was total war and a handful of other things, 671 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.119 and they deserve to be able to work on what they want to work. 672 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:29.840 To a certain extent, I think even like it's a shame that hyenas 673 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.480 didn't get a chance, but at certain point you also think, boy, 674 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.880 I never thought that was a good idea and I didn't care about that game, 675 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.920 So at a certain point, not throwing good money after bad is probably 676 00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.559 the right choice. But hey, if they do return to the roots, 677 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.480 they are so the best at what they do and having a chance to go 678 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.559 back to their and not I have to be like shut down because of one 679 00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.079 bad project. At least that's a good thing. I'm hoping for good things 680 00:45:53.119 --> 00:46:00.159 for Creative Assembly. Give them Sonic. Yeah, give them Sonic than you 681 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:07.960 them Sonic Game. You keep fumbling the bag with certain Sonic games. Let 682 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:13.679 your actual number one studio do their thing. I want to see it. 683 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.719 Uh, let's see here. I'm gonna skip ahead to this next one. 684 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:22.559 Jan the new ashless Pokemon anime is finally getting its English dub. This comes 685 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.880 from Ken Shepherd at Kotaku. Shout out to Ken. The Pokemon anime is 686 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.440 entering a new era after sunsetting longtime protagonist Ash and Pikachu earlier this year. 687 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:37.440 The newest series, Pokemon Horizons, follows heroes Laco and Roy and has been 688 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.400 airing inch fan since April. After an excruciating weight It's finally making its way 689 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:44.800 to the West with an English dub. However, acid has become a tradition 690 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:49.599 in the States. The new season will be available only through Netflix. Jan 691 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:55.159 Are you excited about a new ashlest Pokemon anime? Sure, sure, completely 692 00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:04.239 fine with it. I think I'm glad that they finally did it and not 693 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.079 got rid of Ash, but moved on from Ash, and I feel like 694 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.639 he can only be ten for so long. The people that were that men 695 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:17.360 Ash when they were young are now in their thirties and also ready to move 696 00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.760 on to other things, but maybe past the torch. I personally would have 697 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.239 enjoyed if they took some of the other side companions and maybe did like a 698 00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.039 flash forward type of deal when they're a little bit older. I am very 699 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.480 I was very attached to gosh. I forget what season I think it is, 700 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:39.039 you know X Y and then x y Z where Bonnie was like a 701 00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.639 younger character on the show and wasn't of age it to be a Pokemon trainer. 702 00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.440 I would have been a big fan if they chose to fast forward a 703 00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:54.400 couple of years. But hey, this show Pokemon Horizons has Captain Pikachu, 704 00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.800 y'all, and this is just a Pikachu with a captain's hat, so that 705 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.000 that makes him more official. I think they're fine giving jobs to Pokemon as 706 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:09.559 long as they're just Pikachu's detectives captain to do whatever job. Yeah, Pikachu's 707 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:15.920 probably president in that universe, right one. I'm almost don kiddle. I'll 708 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.360 help you in a second. Don't worry saying I don't intend to vote for 709 00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.480 Pikachu if he chooses to run. I don't like his platform. Yeah, 710 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.280 I do find it would be electrifying though. I'm sorry, everybody, I'm 711 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.960 so sorry. Nintendo Live twenty twenty four is going to be held in Tokyo. 712 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.039 The showcase will run from January twentieth to the twenty first in the Tokyo 713 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:40.159 Big Site Convention Center. Uh, this is interested. They're already doing another 714 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.639 Nintendo Live. But I think it's a pretty cool idea. I wonder if 715 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.360 it's going to be like there will be a Nintendo Live in the Americas in 716 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.840 at like around the end of the year, around packs time, and then 717 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:52.760 they'll do one in Japan earlier in the year and kind of bounce back and 718 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.079 forth and do that. Because we speculated the one and washed it was like 719 00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.760 they have all this stuff sitting in a warehouse. They could just bring it 720 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.639 out and do their own do their own thing pretty easily. They probably have 721 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:07.599 the equivalent in Japan, so they could kind of just like do both without 722 00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:09.679 without like incurring a lot of costs. So this makes sense. I think 723 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.199 it's a very cool thing that they're taking this on, and it makes me 724 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.840 believe that one day we might get a Space World again, which was their 725 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.079 like own E three from the nineties that I always wanted to go to before 726 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:23.320 I was in the industry. I'm curious if we'll see any Nintendo major Nintendo 727 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:28.280 presence at all at Packs East or are they gonna really just sequester it to 728 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:35.320 Pax West specifically because their right American yeah being there to know, I feel 729 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:39.039 like Nintendo has had booths at pack ceas before. Uh yeah, like to 730 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.440 occupy like a whole floor of the right And they probably won't have a Nintendo 731 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:46.280 Live so Nintendo. A lot of people are asking what's Nintendo Live. That's 732 00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:52.360 the thing that we went to in and around packs like Nintendo's own fan event 733 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.760 where they had Mario music playing in a concert series and then they showed off 734 00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.559 all their games, whether they were coming out still or had been recent released 735 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:04.239 earlier this year. So yeah, a Nintendo Con basically, and it's not 736 00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.719 like a full blizz con equivalent, but a mini version of that focused on 737 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.679 Nintendo, and we all had a really good time at it. It was 738 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:14.719 very a very pleasant experience, right, very very pleasant experience. We ran 739 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.599 into Doug Bowser, yes we did, took a picture of us and then 740 00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.880 threw us back in jail. It threw us immediately back in jail. But 741 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.360 that's also the first time we played Super Mario Wonder. Yes, it was. 742 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:28.920 Yeah, it was great. It was We got line played it again 743 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:34.159 at a four hour long line for the merch Store. It was cool and 744 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.039 either I think it was a good experience. I was like, I hope 745 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:38.519 they keep doing this. So this is a sign that they're going to keep 746 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.599 doing this, and I think that's great. Kumba dumper Guomba dumpers. As 747 00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:50.880 the people say, all right, I have the poll here somewhere. I 748 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.639 know, kidd, I'm almost done. Just hang on there, all right. 749 00:50:52.880 --> 00:51:00.199 From yesterday, let's bring this up. Have you played Dragon's Dogmafoo? 750 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.159 Yes a little bit. Fifty two percent said yes, forty eight percent said 751 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.039 no. That's all and that's two point seven thousand votes. Jen, Well, 752 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.880 that's way more than I was expecting. All right, Yes, I 753 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.719 mean this forty eight percent people have still ready like, hey, what is 754 00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.039 this Dragon's Dogma two all about? That's great, but I think this bodes 755 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.079 well that the Dragon's Dogma series has continued to attract players over the years, 756 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.599 and that's that's a pretty good result for that game. I think you said 757 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:30.239 you haven't played it, right, Jen, I have not. I wouldn't 758 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:37.880 even say I'm Dragons Dogma curious at all, but I appreciate how fervid the 759 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.360 fan base is for the game. Not my cup of tea could potentially be. 760 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.719 But as it's like, all right, cool, you guys have fun. 761 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.239 Yep, I am've always been more curious in it than the time I 762 00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.559 was actually spent put into it. But I don't know. I think I 763 00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.239 started up and I'm like, people talk about this game, all this stuff 764 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.639 happening, and it just takes a bit long for me to get into it, 765 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:00.480 and I'm like, I don't really know what's going on, and then 766 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.199 I lose interest. So I want to keep trying. I want to I 767 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.039 want to give it one more try before Dragons Dogma two comes out, but 768 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.440 I will definitely be there for Dragons Dogma two. Greb, have you ever 769 00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:14.719 checked the comments section for any of these polls on YouTube. Let's do it 770 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:16.360 right now. It's good. I'm gonna live dangerously. Let's see here, 771 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:21.480 uh, master works all you can't go wrong. It's for yeah, okay, 772 00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.199 yep, playing the prolog counts. No, yeah, what's what normally 773 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:29.519 happens in here? I've never checked, and that's why I'm curious. It's 774 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.760 like I've checked a few times, definitely, and people sometimes will tag me, 775 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.400 so I definitely, And then I'm like, oh yeah, there's comment 776 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.480 section. I'll go there and check it out. And Rizzleton says, Jeff, 777 00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.840 load this puppy up on the steamed steam deck with the sixty frames per 778 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.039 second patch and into free mod and the title theme, and you're and you'll 779 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.239 understand. Okay, I'm gonna do exactly what in Drizzleton is suggesting here because 780 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.679 he's got the Rizultan. All right, yeah, yeah, hey, if 781 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.760 you got the Rizzultan, let's let's go by Living Garage Trucks as they played 782 00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.800 a two point five times Yeah, race Raise Braves is yes, and I 783 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.360 don't understand all the hype for it. So yeah, there's all kinds out 784 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.119 there, all kinds there, you go all right, we got a new 785 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:15.400 poll that we'll put up that we'll discuss on. Fuck, I have no 786 00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:22.719 idea. Maybebe December eleventh. Yeah, it's gonna be a minute, everybody, 787 00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:27.599 So okay that So I'm gonna say grub that we should maybe take this 788 00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:31.199 Monday, December eleventh off, Yeah, because we're gonna be all getting home 789 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.039 after a long week of a lot of work. So well, listen, 790 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:37.920 we'll figure it out. But Game Mess Mornings listeners, thank you for sticking 791 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.280 with us all year so far, it's been great. We are going into 792 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.599 the Game of the Year stuff and that's gonna be taking up most of our 793 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.800 time starting tomorrow, where there will be no Game Mess Mornings because we're doing 794 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:51.800 day one deliberations with a bunch of categories. But then next week we're in 795 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:53.880 LA and we're doing a lot of stuff related to the Game of the Year. 796 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:58.079 We're doing our own the real Game of the Year. We got GB 797 00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.599 at night next week on Wednesday, eight December sixth, starting at five pm 798 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:06.199 Eastern. Don't miss that, or a five pm Pacific time eight pm Eastern, 799 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:07.760 so don't miss out on that. That's gonna be great. So we're 800 00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.639 gonna be busy with other stuff, but games mornings, we'll be back at 801 00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:16.199 some point in December. We'll definitely do a hot week of of episodes before 802 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:20.039 uh, you know, getting too the holidays. But we'll see, yes, 803 00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.440 so yeah, we'll talk about this topic at some point. But in 804 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.239 the meantime, jam what do we have going on? What we got going 805 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:30.239 on? Today is probably the last episode of voicemail dump Truck for at least 806 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:36.880 a week and a half yep as well, so dumpers getting call in and 807 00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:42.400 all that jazz. We'll we'll field all those calls. But tomorrow Grub starts 808 00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:47.719 the you know, the fifth actual season of the year. Forget forget Spring, 809 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.519 Summer, fall, Winter, It's Game of the Year season, Baby, 810 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:55.039 Game of the Year season. We did it day Day one starts tomorrow 811 00:54:55.079 --> 00:55:01.320 and we're kicking off talking about seven categories. Those people involved in the discussions, 812 00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:07.199 the deliberations are you, Jeff, Jeff Backlar, Dan Reikert to more 813 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:15.159 Hussein, Lucy James, myself and with Mike Manati. Seven topics, seven 814 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:24.639 people who would have thought seven maybe seven hours starting at nine a m. 815 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:30.239 Pacific tomorrow will be live on Twitch. All of these. Don't worry, 816 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:35.840 will be archived on the Giant BombCast feed and then Grub. On Tuesday, 817 00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:43.159 when a BombCast episode would normally air or be recorded, we will publish day 818 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.320 two of our Game of the Year deliberations, talking about seven more categories, 819 00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.800 and we're going to be traveling, so that will be a recorded episode ever, 820 00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.480 yea, and we'll have to pre record that a YouTube premiere of that. 821 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:58.360 Yeah, that's a great idea. That's a fantastic idea. And then 822 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:00.800 Grub, as you mentioned on Wednesday, will be Giant Bomb at night. 823 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:06.960 But Thursday morning, somehow we will all wake up from the fever dream that 824 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.480 was GB at night and then get up to record Day three, record and 825 00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.960 stream Day three out of a lot of the year deliberations. That will be 826 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:21.360 live as well, where we will whittle to the top twenty games of the 827 00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:28.519 year. God Yeah. And then and then Grub the grand finale in person 828 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:35.639 at the Terogram Ballroom December ninth, twelve twelve noon start time. This will 829 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:40.039 be live live in person and tickets are still available if you were in the 830 00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:45.559 So Cal area or you want to travel to the Southern California area. Only 831 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.920 a baby's handful of tickets left I've been really is Yeah, one baby's handful 832 00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:52.199 of tickets now okay, and then yeah, that's the real Game of the 833 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.199 Year awards. So the fake game of your awards happened on Thursday, and 834 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:59.480 we'll talk over those. Oh right, yeah, I forgot because they're not 835 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.679 the real game. That doesn't matter exactly. I'll probably be me you Dan, 836 00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:06.679 we'll see if Mike's available, but well, yeah, we'll be in 837 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:08.000 the studio. We'll kind of be hanging out talking over that'll be a lot 838 00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:14.320 of fun. Yeah. The fun part is we won't be at the main 839 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.840 studio. The GB at night will be taking place. We've sequestered a room 840 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:23.760 to squat in a laundry room and a random hotel over by Disney or by 841 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:29.280 Universal excuse me. Yeah, it'll be privy, do it, Jan, 842 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:31.920 think I'd laced it out for everybody. Basically, look at check out our 843 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:36.519 Twitter. We'll post stuff. I we'll try to schedule up on the website, 844 00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.880 stuff like that. I don't know, but we'll give you updates as 845 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:44.119 things are happening as well, So follow us, keep yourselves posted. Jan, 846 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:45.519 thank you so much for spinding today talk with me. We're talking with 847 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:50.400 me about video games. Man, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. 848 00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.599 Every Thursday, I'm gonna go spread my legs over some voicemails. Sounds sounds 849 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:58.440 wonderful. Thank you everybody for listening. You're the best audience in gaming. 850 00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.119 Until next time, whenever that may be, have a good one, take 851 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:02.760 care of yourselves and goodbye.