To not the night Cash Gerry Jeff Walker once again in for Scott Sloan,
and we have a special guest co host today riding Shotgun. For the entire
three looking for to this have been all week long. If you can look
forward to work, I've been looking forward to this, no question about it.
Peter Bronson joins us, Pete, how are you doing now? This
is not your first time doing a show on WI And I'm not talking about
being interviewed, you know, on the phone or in the studio. You've
done that quite a bit, but you actually years ago, Yes, hosted
a talk show. Yeah, I think you that's nothing for Mike McConnell one
time, and I think I subbed for let me think. Oh, I
did a show with Jerry Thomas and Craig cop We did a show together where
it was like a three way thing where we'd all anyway. I was there
threesome with Jerry Thomas and Greg cos Yes, and then I filled out interesting
when Jerry was out on vacation, I would fill in for Jerry and bring
the conservative point of view that Craig was the liberal. It was like Hannity
and Colms if you remember that. But with that theme music. This morning,
I feel like I'm Ed McMahon, you know, so you gotta work
on the Yeah, there you go, and then and laugh heartily. Yeah,
laugh heartily, and then get out of the way. Occasionally repeat something
I said, and yeah, that's exactly how they repeat something you say.
Oh, oh man, oh man, this will be fun. Phones are
open if you'd like to talk to Peter or I don't know why in the
world you'd want to talk to me, but uh five one, three,
seven, four, nine, seven thousand if you want to get in touch
in this half hour at nine thirty five, my friend doctor John Hubert,
forensic psychologist out of Austin, Texas, we may be talking. In fact,
I think we'll definitely be talking about some of the issues that are germane
to today's news. There is of course a press conference ory news conference with
Governor my to Wine coming up at ten thirty this morning, or scheduled to
come up at ten thirty. Why the theatrics, I have no idea,
but he is going to be announcing whether he will sign House Bill sixty eight,
also known as the Safe Act. It's about protecting kids from I don't
know, misinformed, confused, parents about a community, a very very rabid
advocate community for the trans nation what exists here in this country, and it
certainly is. If the governor's only talked to hospitals and doctors about this,
then we almost know Peter how he's going to come down today. You thought
you predicted he will weany out on signing the bill. I would be surprised
if he signs it. I've just I've followed Mike's career over a long period
of time back at the editorial page in the Cincinnati Inquirer, when I was
editorial page editor, we had a lot of meetings together. If you recall
way back, he was the guy who was always trying to His highest goal
was bipartisanship, even if that meant selling out the conservative ideals that he was
elected to serve with, and he would. He was very proud of reaching
across the out Now, maybe that sounds kind of quaint now because we have
so polarized. We have a bevy of talk show host on the air in
this town who are more concerned with partisanship than actually sticking to values that they
may hold personally very very true. And it's true throughout I mean you've got
a lot of people who long for those old days. All I ever saw
from that was that Republicans and Conservatives, which are not all one and the
same, they got played. They got played over and over. I mean,
you saw it with Bayner on the Education Act of Teddy Kennedy. We've
seen it over and over where these guys reaching out and bipartisanship, they end
up just getting used. Well. And the other thing, if you're only
going to talk to certain medical professionals or hospitals or a lot of doctors sadly
about this issue and making your decision, governor, understand that they have a
great financial stake in mutilating children, in mutilating minors, which is what this
gender affirming surgery is at that age. Just if you're an adult, if
you're eighteen years old or even maybe a little bit older and finally have a
firm grasp on who you are and you want to mutilate your body, I
guess the law allows for that, And I'm not going to stand in your
way. If you want to ruin your life, that's fine, but you
don't ruin the life of an eight year old boy or a seven year old
girl by performing surgery that is not reversible on them, well not certainly,
not without great expense and a great deal of pain later on in life if
you're going to and they coupled the transgender sports thing in with this, yeah,
it is all pretty much eggs in the same basket. But the transgender
sports is way different than forcing young people's bodies before they are of the mind
to make up their mind of who they are with puberty blockers and this radical
surgery. This runs counter to just about everything else we understand about healthcare,
which is first, do no harm. It runs counter to thousands of years
of civilization and standards, moral standards about not letting children have decisions imposed upon
them by teachers, by parents who may be terribly confused. These are irreversible.
As you point out, my parents made some mistakes with me, but
thank god that wasn't one of them. It's the parents. Do make mistakes
with the Almost every parent makes mistakes with their children, but don't make a
mistake that is going to alter and ruin the path of their life from this
point forward. Have you heard some of the interviews with these kids who've had
so called gender affirming surgery and they turn eighteen and nineteen, and their life
is ruined, Their life is ruined, their suicidal In many cases, they
talk about suicides among the trans community, the suicide rate of those who are
going through this gender affirming and we're going to see this play out more and
more as it happens more often, where the suicide rate is just going to
skyrocket. It's already sky high for that particular group of individuals which are suffering
from and even as adults. But it is a psychologically known malady called gender
dysphori It is a form of mental illness to think that you're in the wrong
body, and instead of treating that, they're taking these radical steps yes to
affirm. I love the euphemisms and the manipulation of the language to make all
this sound positive. Gender affirming healthcare, gender affirming care. There's nothing care
that the care should not be involved in that whole terminology, And you're right,
it's all a misnomer. It is. It's the same thing we've seen
with the pro abortion crowds calling it women's health care. There is women's healthcare,
and that's a separate category. Abortion is something else entirely. It doesn't
fall under the category in most cases of women's healthcare. I had Reverend James
Harden from Compass Care on yesterday, and Compass Care has several pregnancy crisis centers
around the country where they assist women who are pregnant in crisis, and none
of that assistance involves the murder of unborn babies. There are some excellent pregnancy
care centers in Cincinnati and they do great work. Yes there are. Bill
and Harrison had some comments on this topic. Bill, how are you doing.
I'm doing well, young man. Yourself so far, so good.
But it's only nine sixteen. I know it's early, isn't it. There's
a long way to go and great opportunities for everything to go wrong, but
we just got to stick in there. There you go, So your thoughts
on this, okay. First of all, you're right about Thank you very
much for calling Bill. We'll talk to you later. All of the people
that are making money off of this, the hospitals, the surgeons, big
Pharma for the hormone blockers, and the mental health group who get to,
you know, talk people into this and tell them that it's okay, you
were right, don't worry about it, even though you might change your mind.
Later. But you know that's bad. First of all, there are
people like my best friend who is a and referred to an old speak as
a bush lesbian cheese seems basically the male side of the lesbian point. And
there are gay men who are a feminates who would be the female side of
the male gender. Coins they exist. They're not crazy, that's just the
way they are. But what they're doing is they're selectively manipulating, especially young
kids, into this UH to make a lot of money to raise money for
HR, the Human Rights Commission and all of the other groups that get out
there and put out flyers and get on their polo shirts and their dockers and
all this other stuff. So well, it's when it's children, it's an
indoctrination because as a child, before your brain and your body are fully formed,
you have no business. You have no idea what the rest of your
life will be the way you were born. And there you know what.
There's there is XX and there's XO. Those are biological or x Y those
are biological facts. XO is a hug and a kiss. But there's XX
and x Y and nothing changes that. You can have surgery, you can
you can have the hormone blockers, hormone replacement, whatever you want to do
with drugs or surgery on that. And you're not going to change the original
genetic code that you were born with. Well you know, no, you're
not. And the prosthetics or anything, you're not going to feel any sensation
from them. When the maternal instinct kicks in. For the women, they're
not going to be able to do that. That's going to be more upsetting
than you know, having female body parts. And if you are a female
trying to trans to a male, when you have a you know, female
partner, you're you know, she's a lesbian and she's not gonna want anything
to do with email organ of reproduction. And as for the guys, they
may want to hold onto their units until they can do something other than go
to the bathroom with them. Yeah, as the Great American, let's say,
urinate with them. It's this whole thing is trumped up to make money
for, as you said, the hospitals, big pharma, and the mental
health groups. Yep, they can all raise the parents' insurance till heck freeze
is over. And it's it's just setting that. It's setting a lot of
kids up for a lot of aggravation, mental anguish, and heartache down the
road. Yep, Bill, I appreciate you're being a part of this echo
chamber, but I agree with everything you're saying, and apparently you agreed with
us. It's just he's thought about it a lot more than I had even
to that point. If you're an adult, you're you're in charge of your
life. When you're a kid, hopefully you have a parent or parents in
your life to help you make decisions or delay decisions that you may make later.
Well, look at just the age part of it, they's the children's
biggest part of it for me is the e don't allow children to make a
decision that they can drink, smoke. There's a word for people who groom
children and convince them that they're old enough to have sex when they're four and
five and six and eight years metophiles. Pedophiles. Why are we all of
a sudden deciding that people can make these decisions on behalf of children that are
life changing and so damaging. They can cause psychological damage even much worse.
And I've seen interviews with parents who said, at three years old, we
knew something was different about about Billy who's now no way, Blair, we
knew somebody something was different about Billy because he he wanted to he wanted to
play with dolls and he felt more comfortable in address. You know, so
Billy's three years old. No, Billy's not ready, and you shouldn't not
be forcing Billy into that decision at three years old. Period. Will in
Kentucky you disagree? What's going on? Well, I just turned on the
show, so I don't have a whole lot of background here, but as
a libertarian, I cringe anytime that people tell me they want government to come
in and tell parents had a parent, and doctors had a doctor. You
know, I'd rather see individuals make horrible mistakes. I think probably nine nine
point nine percent of time. This is a horrible mistake that you said,
A really bad precedence when you allow government to come in and tell people how
to run their lives. I see what you're saying. I get what you're
saying, and to a certain extent, I do agree with you. I'm
just saying. I'm just saying that there is a movement in this country and
it is back by I mean, so if you're a parent and the government
says, for example, that there's a law against pedophilia, and there's a
law against incests. But you're a parent, so you're making those decisions for
your children, and you're going to have sex or let your neighbors have sex
with your underage children. Is that what you're saying? No, No,
Okay, Well what's the difference? Well, well, I think you know
what the difference is. There are many gray areas. I'm just saying that
in general, I lean toward individual rights and individual responsibilities. And when you
say there's a movement of foot, I'm not so sure this movement of foot
is as big as what everybody no, no, no, and will will.
That's exactly the point, though, it's not as big as we are
led to believe by the media and by the people who are pushing the agenda.
That's why they keep adding letters to lgbt Q E I E I O,
because the more letters they can add to it, the more it seems
like there's just this great groundswell of people with aberrant sexual ideas and proclivities,
when there's really not, and it's a group that didn't even exist five years
ago, and it is as small a very minute and I think you would
agree. It's a very minute percentage actually of the country that is personally collective.
You know. I almost feel like it's one of those things where if
we didn't give it the airtime, and I mean, you know, I
get what you guys do, but it's almost like if we didn't give it
the airtime, it wouldn't be a big deal. It's like nobody ever heard
of anteachauntil fox News came around. You know, it's like all these Fox
News did. Fox News did not create Antifa. They didn't burn down the
police stations. No that Fox News did not burn down or or or takeover
federal courthouses. Well, I appreciate your calling, your time and your thoughts.
Their Merry Christmas, Mary, Happy New Years. Eat some good points
that parents should have ultimate autonomy with how they raise their children, but we
draw the line with that all the time. Yeah, I mean, if
people are abusing their children, we don't allow that. That's one of the
things that the police and the authorities are there to stop. Now protect children.
Maybe there'll be a lot more calls to forty one kids if this thing
is not signed today or agreed to be signed by Governor DeLine, but Will
made some excellent points, some salient points about the liberatory Tarran point of view
and letting people and parents have ultimate control not the state of their children.
I get it, but just a political dimension the wine. Like many Republicans
may be pretty spooked right now and politically cautious because of Ohio's vote on the
abortion yes on issue one. And I think that when we see his ruling,
he's always been one that I thought governed more with his finger in the
wind, and that's how he's maintained his middle of the road moderate Andy and
Andy Basheer followed suit in Kentucky, by the way, during the scam demic,
and Jane and Tri County says, you are overlooking the fact that hospitals
are marketing these things. No, we've mentioned that, Jane. As a
matter of fact, it is a money maker to mutilate children. Will take
a break and come back Wardie brennaman for help home services, and I want
to talk to you about hard water. Ohio is notorious for having give me
the news a baby, I need you soon, doctor, doctor didn't need
the news. I gotta case, got a bad case, A loving doctor,
Hubert. That's for sure. Forensic psychologists based out of Austin, Texas,
joining us this morning on The Sloaney Show, Gary Jeff and Peter Bronson
talking to the doc doctor Huber. First off, how are you? I
am amazing, Gary Jeff, thank you for having me this morning. That's
great. It's great that you'd be had this morning. Maybe we should ask
him, how are we we need a quick analysis? Well, doctor has
some has some research on me. He doesn't know about you, so Peter
don't. I don't know about blank slate. So anyway, we were talking
about there's a big decision coming at ten thirty this morning. Governor Mike DeWine
of Ohio is planning on a press conference to say whether he will or will
not sign House Bill sixty eight, the Safe Act, which prevents kids miners
from having so called gender affirming care or surgery i e. Mutilation and hormone
blockers and all the rest. The legislation has passed. It's up to him
to sign it, and we're just speculating, or Peter was speculating that he
will probably not. He say he's not going to sign it, and Weenie
out. He is a Republican and the majority of the legislators in Ohio elected
legislators are Republican and they have come up with this bill and they heard a
lot of testimony on it too. Let's point out a great deal of testimony
from p pople who had had the so called gender affirming surgery, and you
know, now their life is in flames and ruins basically because of that.
And the point is this is about minors. This is about minor children.
And attached to this bill is also something that denies the ability for males who
are transitioning or trans girls I guess from playing high school sports against biological girls.
And first and foremost, doctor, I guess the question for you,
has this not been a long established gender dysphoria been a long established mental illness?
Yes, it has been. And you know, even even if we
want to say that somehow this is this is no longer something we need to
work on, you know, and oftentimes if you have any doubts about it,
it's something like fifteen to nineteen times more likely to commit suicide with and
without any kind of treatment, you know, after the type of surgery that
goes through though, there's a forty percent likelihood of attempted suicide. There's so
much going on in there, and we listen to these people who come back
years later and saying, you know, to doctors, why did you let
me do this? Why did you let me move forward with this? And
to say that, you know, you can't get a tattoo because it's termanent
before you're an adult without your parents' consent and that type of stuff. But
then to say that minors can go and get this surgery and get these treatments
without parental consent, and there's something screwed up with our society. Have you
dealt have you personally dealt with any patients that have this issue? Of course
that we have anonymity, but what have you had any experience in dealing with
these patients who are going through this dilimma themselves? Well, well, it's
funny you should ask that, because before we accepted it, you know,
it's extremely rare, like one into six thousand, you know, something like
that, and some studies showed one and one in two hundred thousand actually truly
have this situation where that maybe maybe there is something going on there and they
need that type two. Now that it's popular, I walk on to high
school campuses, and you know, two thousand students in a campus and I
get told that there's one hundred and fifty transgender in there, which is statistically
impossible based on the data that we have. So there's something going on in
this process. And before it became popular. So let's say before two thousand
and I know that it's not been that long ago. I I've seen two
patients previous to that, and they were seeking help. They weren't saying,
hey, let's go through with this. They were saying, something, something's
going on, and maybe I need to I need to figure out what's going
on. And that's kind of the attitude we need to look at and say,
hey, what's going on, not hey let's just jump right to this
conclusion immediately without any process and in fact trenious to it becoming popular. If
you were going to have the surgery, you had to do several things.
You had to have at least one full year living completely as the opposite sex.
You had to do in many states multiple years, but a minimum one
year of psychotherapy, or they would even let you consider any type of gender
altering medical treatments. But now all of a sudden, we just throw all
that history out the window and we just jump right to it. It makes
me question, is there a financial incentive for hospitals to do this surgery?
Not that I'm aware of, it may possibly, you know. I again,
I haven't dealt with anybody who's gone through that. There were two major
centers, one in Galveston, Texas and the other one in Minnesota where you
would get the surgery. Now, apparently this is becoming much more popular.
I know at least a few of the physicians I work with have gone to
conferences specifically for uh, this this type of surgery body altering surgery, and
they've discussed it the demonstration and shown videos and you know, the basically training
mechanisms so that doctors know what is involved in that process. And you know,
the one thing that they they've all told me is that going from man
to woman, the surgery looks pretty pretty good, but going from women to
man it's not a very it's not a very nice process and not very successful.
Well either one or nice prospects. If you're talking about five and six
and seven year old children whose brains and bodies have not fully developed yet,
I mean absolutely, I mean it's up until the early twenties in early to
mid twenties, where brains are still forming, we look back as beings,
right, Doc, Well, we look back now and we look at child
labor in the nineteen hundreds as an inhumane, cruel, unusual, horrible thing
we did to children for generations for a long time. Do you think someday
we will look back at this as being equally deranged or barbaric. I hope.
So, you know, it's pretty crazy. And then we look at
what we're training and teaching our kids in our public school systems and compare that
to other countries, in particular China and Russia, and and you know,
they're they're teaching them multiple languages and the hand combat and you know, how
to assemble firearms and things like that, and we're taking our kids and asking
them which bathroom they went to. Pretty disturbing, Yeah, it is.
It is disgusting and disturbing. You said it a number of times, and
just in the space of this brief conversation, doctor Hubert, now that it's
popular, that tells you that if before twenty ten, before the fad,
before the gone viral, everybody's trans movement, it occurred, you know,
and you cited some numbers maybe one in six thousand up to one and two
hundred thousand maybe had some issues and questions about their sexuality and their sex,
whether they were male or female to now. And you mentioned the reference to
the high school campus. You know, one hundred and fifty out of two
thousand students are identifying as trans. That's all this, This is a movement
that has been that has been It's propaganda that is paid for by someone to
fulfill some agenda. And it's it's a fad. You know, I don't
know what's more dangerous, this fad or swallowing tide pods, but it's it's
all the same kind of nonsense that's been popularized. And you kept saying the
word popular So I mean that tells you that this is not something that naturally
occurs on a large scale basis not on a large scale. And and you
know, you know, we have we have one client that we work with,
and you know, there's a lot of evidence, you know, suggesting
that maybe they're one of the original, the one in two hundred thousand or
whatever, and so we were very gentle and cautious with every patient of the
walks. And but you know occasionally, you know, there are anomalies.
I mean, that's that's the human condition. But again, like I said,
you know, one hundred and fifty out of two thousand is not an
anomaly. That's a trend. And is it a viral trend? We'll think
about what happens all of a sudden without parental consent. They get all this
attention from from a lot of people, doctors, counselors, administrators, teachers,
and they get a lot of positive support for that. And that's a
very fragile time. You know, those teenagers are always tumultuous and rough to
traverse, and now all of a sudden they've got a new thing that it
makes them special and stand out. It's again it goes back to that,
Hey, that's an easy way maybe to get away without being kicked on bullied,
because now everybody is of that. What you're describing is almost sounds like
a deviation of what is it called Munchausen by proxy where the parent gets sympathy
and attention by creating diseases in their children, right, But Munchausen is when
the individual does it to themselves. So is maybe that's something we need to
research. I absolutely think that we should be researching that. And of course
the problem with doing something like that is research is gooven by the dollars.
So, like you said, whoever's benefitting from this once they get in control
of the people that fund research in ia, that's when I stood out and
Carnadie Foundation and all these different the different research supporting groups, when they stop
saying, hey, we're we're not interested in finding out the cause the research
doesn't have it just does not happen. And then if it does happen,
it goes unpublished. So professors who are in a situation where they either publish
or perish, you know that that nice little trick when you when you attain
a level of security in you know that tenureship as a professor, you don't
publish, you don't get you don't get to keep that tenureship which protects you
from what we call, you know, the you could teach whatever you want
to teach kind of thing as long as you glorify that. University professors have
no motivation to go and do research to find out really what's going on.
And the whole idea of having the government like NIH or the National Science Foundation
and all these people support research is that they're supposed to be no biased and
you can research whatever you want research. But the reality of it is,
you know, professors know, you know that they have to do the research
that people are paying for. It's well, and there's a distancentive as well,
is there not, which is that if you do that research and it
points in the quote unquote wrong direction on this topic, you can have your
career destroyed. Well, you don't get publics too, and that's so nobody
ever finds out about it. You know. That was one of the things
we're dealing with the Ketemy is that, you know, when we first started
working and creating, you know, the American Society Academy positions the researchers that
we asked to come and that we're doing research that we found out about we're
asked to come and present. They came out and presented, and then you
know, said, please, don't you know, don't you know, take
them a data and use it, but don't necessarily tell people where you got
this from, because they were told by their university we're going to lose fun,
you know, because we're funded by major pharmacy companies. And if you
go and publish this, we're going to lose funding from them. So you
can't publish it through the research, you just can't make it generally available to
everyday public. Doctor John Hubert, thank you so much for being my friend
number one. Happy new year coming up, and thanks for taking some time
out today to talk to us about It's a pretty serious topic and it hits
it ahead of what's going on in the news today. Now I have a
quick question. Yes, it is your state one where if the governor doesn't
sign it and it's been approved, it just actually becomes a law or or
does it have to be signed by the governor. You're right in certain states
the governor does not have to if he doesn't sign it, it just automatically.
So I think he has to sign it in Ohio, but I could
be wrong. I think that if he does not sign it, it creates
a big problem in this law, maybe reached its dead end. Wow,
thank you were you were once again amazing, my friend. Thank you,
thank you, and you'all have a gray afternoon and your show is awesome.
I'll just keep going and jump stop. Thanks brother. Uh, We've got
a couple more minutes for one more doctor, my friend doctor Dennis from ann
Annapolis Annnapolis, Maryland. How are things in Annapolis? Doctor Dennis? Pretty
good? Pretty goods trying to a yeah, right. I want to just
chime in on this. What you're basically all saying is this this is not
uh science driven uh or medical science driven UH care. It's politically driven care.
There's no doubt about it in my mind. And uh uh and I
think you I think there probably is a financial incentive for these medical centers to
do this because I think a lot of it at this point is outside insurance,
so they can you know, make money. It's like any It's basically
plastic surgery is what it is. And uh, I think that you're dealing
with these centers, have these woke doctors that are you know, caught up
in this, like you said, fad or trend of this. Uh.
And I just can't wait when they find, you know, the UK and
the Scandardinan countries have found that they put they tapped the brakes on this and
said, wait a minute, we've got to start, uh stop making these
quick decisions and doing this gender firming care and to do more psychological counseling and
h investigation before we okay this stuff, uh, but not so in the
United States. They're so quick to allow it. Uh. And I just
can't wait till they find out what a big mistake this has been and and
all the big wave of malpractice suits that'll be generated from uh in the future
when they find out that that they've ruined all these patients' lives, well,
doctor hughes. Doctor Hubert mentioned and talking about whether the bill go through or
not. If Governor Downe says, my wife, would you know christa christ
to two point out doctor, Uh, the bill will go through whether he
signs it or not, is what the news said, So so it will
be. It will be law. Whether so DeWine will play the c y
A and say's not going to sign Once again proves my motto often ronans doctor
now, yeah, right, exactly, all right. Uh. More news
at the top of the hour, and then we'll switch gears, flip the
flip the record over, so to speak. Mighty John Marshall from Money music
dot Com coming up with a brand new top ten list of valuable final for
the new year. If you're one of those hoarders of of records and people
are rediscovering vinyl again for their music. You'll want to tune in for that.
It's all ahead, Gary Jeffin for Scott's Loan. Peter Bronson is here
with us for the duration of the show seven hundred WLW. I'm going to
leave work earlier so i can listen to more Eddie and Rocky. Each year
we make New Year's resolutions in hopes of bettering ourselves. I'm going to stop
using all the hot water when I shower. Good luck with yours. I'm
going to stop farting in church. Have a safe and happy New Year.
From seven hundred WLW. I wish I'd gotten treated for my rectile dysfunction sooner.
Men, I hear this all the end of the year's show. Gary
Jeff Walker in for Scott's Loan. Peter Bronson is our guest. Thank you.
Ed Quen got him a big bottle of Ebbian water during the break and
he said, you know, if this was the tonight show, this would
be jin or at least vodka. That's a huge bottle of gin. Man
is Ed could knock him back, believe me, so he was no slouchy
there. We are switching gears this hour and we're going to talk to my
friend Mighty John Marshall. Mighty John is the music man from music from moneymusic
dot Com. I've got to get this right. I've only been talking to
him for like the last ten years. Moneymusic dot Com is a service that
he runs out of his home state of Maine. I got to ask him,
what's up with the Secretary of State of Maine too off topic taking Trump
off the ballot today? Just unilaterally, but anyway, I guess they do
that kind of thing in Maine. That might be an answer for doctor Hubert,
but these are Yeah, we do need more of a psychologist involved in
This is a new year list from moneymusic dot Com ten records listeners should be
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Mighty John says that these are songs that and records that you may have in
your possession that are worth at least one hundred bucks if they're in good condition.
It always astounds me what's on the list, what's not? And if
there is time, we'll allow you to ask questions, and ask some singular
questions of Mighty John Marshall about something you may have in your fold, in
your garage or in your attic or in your record collection if you want to,
if you want to ask the man. But let's get to the man
right off the bat. Mighty John Marshall, how are you doing. I
am well, Gary, Jeff, good morning to you, and happy New
Year. Happy New Year to you, sir. My co host Peter Bronson
also looks interested in this, so yeah, great topic. First off,
tell me about and for people who don't know, tell me about moneymusic dot
Com. What do you do there, Well, you can go there.
You can find the value of any record ever made from nineteen oh two to
the present day. We put on a big guide that lists the values for
well over a million records, over seventy five thousand different coording artists listed,
and you'll find that right on the homepage at moneymusic dot com. And you
also sell if people want, if they're serious collectors and they're wanting to pony
up some bucks, you've got a little program that you will send along little
thumb drive or whatever that people can insert into their computers. And there's over
a million titles there, over a million titles. It's twenty four or ninety
five that's the total we pay the shipping. So that's what you're looking at.
So twenty four to ninety five, you can find the value of every
record at every yard sale, flea market, thript store you go to and
see if you can make some money. And your YouTube show too. You've
got a few of those six YouTube videos up currently, will start another one
hopefully in January, and so that it'll make it seven video. It's all.
It's a lot of fun to do, but takes a lot of time.
Well, and you're a former radio person like me, So just the
fact that you're willing to be on cameras amaze. I hear you, brother?
All right, So this is a list for the new year. And
these are ten songs worth one hundred dollars or more, and we have forty
five we've got albums. Let's go with number ten here. Well, how
about John Lennon Give Piece a Chance? What a great title to the times
we're in. Give Piece of Chance that forty five with its picture sleeve current
value up to one. And on that forty five you'll find the late Tommy
Smothers playing acoustic guitar. How about that? Yeah, tom just passed last
week. Let's go and hear that stone from in a little little piece of
give piece of chance, please crank. It had an assembled multitude in on
this recording. You mentioned Tommy Smothers playing the acoustic guitar in the background,
But there were a whole lot of people involved in that little party. But
unfortunately he just passed away. He was a great artist. I always loved
the Smothers brothers. Oh me too. I'm curious. Was there a deduction
and value for having Yoko involved? No. I think over the years,
Beatle fans have come to embrace her a little bit more. All right,
I have number nine on the money music dot Com list. Uh one of
my favorite uh, one of my favorite records singles from this period of time,
the mid nineteen sixties. But this is an album. This is album
Tom Jones, the album the hit. It's not unusual now. The value
all depends on what's on the cover. If the cover just shows Tom Jones
outdoors, twenty five bucks. But if the cover shows Tom Jones with a
band behind him, then the value jumps to one hundred dollars. And Tom
Jones actually was once in Judge Judy's court. Judge Judy found him guilty for
non child support. So oh, kidding Tom. Yes, Now, she
was not on TV at the time. She was in a family court in
New York when this happened. Okay, but he was still found guilty by
Judge Judy. It was a kind of a badge of honor in itself.
In an interesting twist as well, when this single came out, there were
a lot of white stations that wouldn't play the record because they thought Tom Jones
was black when they heard him sing. So let's hear a little bit about
it's not unusual from Tom Jones swinging and swinging like I'm in a disco tech.
It's not I used. You want to be a loan, it's not
unused. You want to have fun with anyone, But when I see you
hanging about with anyone, it's not an used. You won't see me by
a lot of time. It's not unused. You want to go time,
But when I see you want at a fote, it's such a curl.
If you sit up for one of you loan by anyone, it's not amused.
You will a happy day no matter what you say. You find it
by looking at a time, you know, John. Kind of a cautionary
tale here if you're out on stage one hundred and fifty nights a year with
a bulge in your pants. You can wind up and judge Judy's family cords.
I think I want them to see the show with Tom Jones, and
I had to go out tell everybody, no pictures, no cameras, no
audio, but I can want to throw you underway. That's okay. Yeah,
that happened a lot. Do you know Tom Jones has a really cool
disc out he he debuted at the Crossroads Festival with Eric Clapton, and it's
a gospel music oh where he's doing it's called Praise and Blame. If you're
interested in that, it's really good, by the way, And that would
be the last person I would have expected to be singing gospel and Christian music.
Jesus Campus Centers. Yes, Jesus came all right. So number eight
on this list is an interesting I never would have thought this in a million
years would be on a list of valuable records, and yet here it is.
John. Well, you know, soundtracks for movies TV shows can be
very collefortable. This one from Mister Ed. The soundtrack from that TV show
currently up to two hundred and fifty dollars. Of course, mister Ed's real
name was Bamboo Harbister, so he was a mister d. I think I
went to school with her. Let's hear a little bit of the mister Ed
theme if you will, Hello, I'm mister Ed. A horse is a
horse, of course. Of course, no one can talk to a horse.
Of course. That is the course, and that's the horse is the
famous mister This'll be my new opening name, the source he's always on instead
of course talk to mister There you go from money music dot com. If
you've got a copy of the mister Ed sound now, it's a whole album.
Whole album. Yeah, what else is on the album? John?
It's a soundtrack? Actually, you know excerpts of the TV show, the
actual show My Mother the Cop? Yeah, yes, my Mother the Car?
Yeah. Do you know how much money that was? Was that?
That was Jerry Van Dyke, wasn't it? Yes? It was it was.
Do you have any idea if there was My Mother the Car soundtrack or
if it's valuable? Off the top of my head, I do not know,
yes, but we'll investigate. Okay. Up next thenew money music dot
Com list of valuable vinyl for the New Year. Things to look for in
twenty twenty four? Does it Vampire Sisters LP. That's the label, correct,
Vampire Sisters is the label? Yes? Four. Yeah. This came
out at the same time as Van Halen's Jump album came out. But on
the Summertime album by Van Halen, you'll also find Jump. On the regular
commercial copy sold in the store that two know of, it's worth about ten
bucks. But on Vampire Sisters then the value jumps to three hundred dollars.
That's just odd. Why why was it out on? I mean, wasn't
Van Halen signed by this other company? And it comes out in van You
know this was This was a legit issue issued in Canada but sold in the
United States. All right, let's crank it up. David Lee and Eddie
go Aheadstone hit that baby. Couldn't find Summertime, but we found this one.
Remember David Lee raw doing the flying scissor kick, jumping off something onto
the stage death. It is very eighty and a lot of Van Halen people
can't stand it because it's so yboard heaven. Yes, the wisdom, the
philosophy of Van Halen. You gotta roll with the punches to get to What's
Real Moneymusic dot Com is the website. The man is mighty John Marshall.
Peter Bronson is my friend and my co host in here this morning. I'm
Gary Jeff Walker and for SCons Loan. Hey, I have a question for
it. Yeah, absolutely, So, what's a very abused, scratched antique
version of Quicksilver Messenger Service worth? Well, you find it very difficult for
a record collector to pay for something that's abused but in mint condition, In
mint conditioned, it would be worth up to fifty to seventy five. Oh
well, too bad, I abuse it so badly. Yeah, maybe I
had a question too, Johnny. We've aforementioned Tommy Smothers there as part of
John Lennon's give Piece of Chance, and Tommy just passed. Are there any
Smothers Brothers albums that are valuable? Because I remember as a kid my parents
had a couple of Smothers Brothers albums and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to him.
Anything there. Well, in general, comedy records do not hold much value
for record collectors. You know, Smothers Brothers or even Richard Pryor or Rodney
dangers Field, any of those generally in the fifteen to twenty dollars price range.
Okay, all right, next on the list, I lost track of
where we're at. Here is this number six or numbers? I don't know
what number the Supremes. It is the Supreme from nineteen everything. Now,
this is this is before the Supremes had really made it big, because nineteen
sixty four was their seminal year of having huge number one hits. This is
before this, right, yeah, anything on a motown is collectible. This
one is called a Breathtaking first sight soul shaking one night, love making,
next day heartbreaking guy. Now, DJs couldn't say it, couldn't remember it,
couldn't repeat it, so they changed the title eventually to a Breathtaking Guy.
So ignorant DJs wouldn't play the song. And if you have a copy
of this forty five, it's valued as much as what A breathtaking first sight
soul shaking one night, love making, next day heartbreaking guy? Four hundred
dollars, A breathtaking Guy twenty bucks? Oh so you gotta have the original
title, right? Yeah? I never heard this word. They find the
room on the label, the whole title life One Night You held me tired
and whispered in money on nice sweet words. I never tho everywhere everything next
day came my wedding. We thought you were to send you passed bye.
Didn't matter my jo Really want to tell me why you're acting strange? Tourn
me? Why have you china toward me? All right, early Supremes before
they were hitting number one, like every single release they put out. All
right, John from money music dot Com, what's our next on the list?
You're a valuable vinyl to look for. In twenty four we got Pink
Floyd Piper at the Gates of Dawn. Now, if you have this album,
look at it. If it's in stereo, it's up to one hundred
dollars, but if it's in mono, it's up to five hundred dollars.
From that early Pink Floyd, let's listen to see Emily play. Emily tries
but miss understand. She knows an inpli to boris something his dream still tomorrow
there is no time. In nineteen sixty seven, this apparently before Sid Barrett
got Ahold of the Bad Acid, because he was still one of the band.
Now but forty five, see Emily play by itself with its picture sleeve
is worth up to fifteen hundred dollars, no kidding. So the forty five
and the picture sleeve is often a key in the record collecting. Tell me
about that just a little bit. Well, in the case of c Emily,
play would be up to three hundred dollars for a record itself, and
I'm up to twelve hundred dollars just for the picture sleeve. Those little picture
sleeves that came with the forty fives always worth more to a record collector than
the actual record because like so many times, we just throw them away after
the first of them survived, so the value is higher. All right,
we've got a few more on the list. I'll tell you what. Let's
go ahead, and if you don't mind, John, take a break.
We've got news coming up, and instead of making you a hang on the
line in perpetual purgatory, we'll just call you back here in a few minutes.
How about that. Okay, that's great, all right, mighty John
Marshall from moneymusic dot com. You can if you're a serious record collector,
vinyl collector, they're people you should know. And we're glad to have him
here in this hour. Rocco Costelano, mister fitness biohacker, joins us at
eleven o'clock. Peter Bronson is here for the duration and we're glad you're sticking.
I give you some fitness instruction right about now. Good luck, enjoy
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with us up until noon, and in this half hour we complete our list
of top ten records to look for in twenty twenty four the new year ahead.
Mighty John Marshall rejoining us on the line from the Great State of Maine,
where apparently they don't believe in democracy. But that's another topic. She
wasn't even elected. She was appointed by the legislature to be a secretary of
State. The secretary of state was appointed in Maine. Yeah, well,
the legislature votes for the secretary of State, not the people. I understand.
They're unappointed official who's making a decision for everybody who might want to vote.
Yeah, okay, very absolutely. Back to the topic at hand,
your top ten list of valuable vinyl indeed from moneymusic dot Com and where we
leave off. We left off with the Pink Floyd c Emily play I believe,
and that leaves us at number four on your top ten list. And
what moneymusic dot Com and what John does every month they put out a different
top ten list, just as examples of records that are valuable and condition condition
condition is always at the top of the list, right John. Everything is
worth more if it's in better condition. But even if it's not, if
it's a rare record that's tough to find, even in less than mint condition,
it can still be quite collectible. And again, you've got to look
at the label, what's written on the label, what's not written on the
label, and that is there's an example of that. Next on the list
from nineteen eighty one. Talk about this record, John, Well, this
is RAM. They're forty five Radio Free Europe. This was put out on
Hyptone Records. Now, if you have a copy or find a copy,
and the address of Hiptel Records is shown on the label, up to one
hundred and twenty five dollars, but that the address is not shown on the
hip tone label that you're up to six up the dumps from wait, I
feel like cutting my hair and playing pac Man from Avans, Georgia. A
little r F from R E. M on our top ten list from Bunny
music dot com. Now what I've not I've seen any of the YouTube shows
John. Obviously you're on camera, right and are you playing the records or
what? What do you do on the show. Well, actually I'm not
on camera. You do see me, but I'm not on camera. But
yes, well we play what we can. You know, YouTube restricts what
you can actually play, so we have to kind of keep the volume low
on the vinyl itself, but show you the pictures of it and then describe
what to look for to make it worth whatever it's worth, all right.
Now you go to the website, my website, moneymusic dot com. You'll
see all the links to the YouTube videos there, and it's self explanatory once
you watch it, all right. And the most valuable vinyl generally is what
overall, certainly rock and roll, but within rock and roll there are subcategories
such as do wop, rockabilly, surf music, motown, British invasion,
soul. So but rock and roll covers a broad category, but also collectible
as jazz, some country, and blues certainly and pre World War two blues
if you've got any of those, yes, yes, we're talking about mostly
seventy eight's at that point. Well there were only seventy eighth prior to World
War two. Yeah, so yeah, yes, and pre war blues.
Robert Johnson, of course, the father of the blues, Deltil Blues,
put out about twenty six seventy eight's, each one of them worth up to
ten thousand dollars, so they're very collectible. Amazing, all right. Number
three on this new year list from moneymusic dot Com. What we got here?
Well, and for Jimmy Hendricks, everything collectible by Jimmy. Are you
experienced. That's the album stereo and original stereo up to one hundred and fifty
dollars, but an original mono copy up to one thousand dollars. I listened
to a little bit of the Jimmy Hendrix experience. I remember this very well.
Do you remember it? You weren't there? Worked in the Men's Clothing
Star. We played this cat up, get your really Mine together of the
come on across electric Land, hold mass and then we'll watch the sunrise from
the bottom of the scene. But booth are you in soon? Are the
mists? Well? John, you talked about these subgenres of rock and roll
from that that period, say, from the so called Summer of Love nineteen
sixty seven, the psychedelic era. Are there other things that are very,
very valuable if you have a copy of them that you can think of?
It's certainly the door is a Jefferson Airplane, Yes, all depending on the
titles and the issues. But yes, psychedelic is very collectible overall. What
I found recently was Summertime Blues by the Blue Cheer. Yeah. Yeah,
and that album with Summertime Blues tarl up one hundred and fifty dollars, very
nice very nice, Peter said, he played. They played in the men's
clothing story work that they played Jimmy Hendricks all the time, Yes, along
with King Crimson and other selected. Yeah, psychedelic. Well that doesn't sound
like your standard mus act, does it. No, it doesn't. It
wasn't your standard men's clothing story. Oh really? What what kind of threads?
What kind of threads did you sell? They had, like you be,
red bell bottoms and tank tops and psychedelic plaid and I was there?
Was there incense burning? Oh? Yes, of course I had inseturning.
It wasn't a Chess King, the big sech the Dollar clothing store back you
named it. I was working at Chess King. That's yeah, great,
that's so cool. Good memory there, awesome. All right, So we're
up to number two on the money music dot Com list. John, it's
another forty five. We get the Beatles, Everything by the Beatles worth money
this one. We can work it out. The value depends on the color
of the label on Capitol Records of its orange and yellow, which is an
original issue, then it's up to twenty five dollars. But if you've got
a nineteen sixty nine re issue, a rare case where the reissue is worth
more than the original on a red and white label, we can work it
out three thousand dollars ups just three thousand dollars for a forty five depending on
what label you got, as he mentioned now reissues. You mentioned that reissues
usually aren't worth as much as the original, and people always talk about bootlegs
and everything like that. You got don't even delve into bootlegs. Correct,
Well, you can't put an established on a value on anything that's considered to
be illegal. So doesn't mean that somebody wouldn't buy it. It just means
you can't put an established value on it. I wish I could have told
my drug dealer back then, and what I mean, it's that much.
You can't put an established value on anything that's illegal, you know. Of
course, Paul McCartney wrote we can work it out after his girlfriend Jane Asher
dumped him on live TV in Britain. How about that, Let's come on,
we can work it out. Let's go ahead, let's do it the
week and work it out. Stone. Oh no, this is one of
those situations where it's out of phase and I'm not hearing the vocals. Now
your fault. Man, It's just one of those quirks. There are some
thanks you can. We're not hearing the vocals, so it doesn't matter stone
you can just I guess we don't work it out. No, you can't
work that out. You can kind of guess what he's saying. He's saying
this work it out, and I don't know what happens. And this happens
every once in a while when we're doing these shows. Either the song isn't
in phase wherever we got it from. It just you can't hear the vocals
and the music the vocals are buried, which I guess would have made it
a perfect opportunity for me to do karaoke, which I didn't say. We
appreciate it. Is there anything else you want people to know about collecting vinyl
and just some tips and maybe maybe where to look for things? Yeah,
well, number one on our list of the Beach Boys. When I grow
up to be a man, here's a case where the color of the vinyl
can make all the difference. Regular black vinyl copy thirty dollars red vinyl for
when I grow up to be a man can go up to thirty five hundred
dollars. That's crazy. Well, let's let's tune into. Let's tune into
the Beach Boys real quickly. Oh my god, will I dig the same
things that turn me on as a kid. Will I look back and say
that I was I hadn't done what I did? Will I look for the
same things and I'm that I dig in fourteen fifteen sixteen, you go counting
down. I mean, he gets up to about twenty six before the song
ends, and like a hope that you're you're getting close to being a man
by that point, and for your recording career's sake, hopefully your voice doesn't
change. Fantastic grecking. Now, when I was asking you about tips for
people to look at we are there are things that always mean or not always,
but necessarily. You might think that it would increase the value if it
says radio copy or DJ copy for example, Right, Well, that's very
too. Promotional copies of those magic words not for sale DJ copy, They
can often be worth a lot more than the commercial copies sold in the stores.
And I think of led Zeppelin. They're commercial albums vary from three to
four hundred dollars, but commercial copies rather promo copies and each one of them
will sell up to one thousand dollars. Really, and that's just want to
get you were in radio, Yeah, and what I found I think I
told you about was deju Vou Crossy Steels Nash Young founded at the yard sale,
commercial copy twenty bucks, the promo copy up to one thousand dollars.
Wow. And you know, I think I've talked to you about this before,
John, in our previous conversations. If I had kept when you know,
when I got in right at the tail end of the vinyl era in
radio, and you know, nineteen eighty but I was still playing forty five's
and albums when I first broke in, and I remember seeing those promo copies
and radio copies, and there were several copies around the station. If I
had just been smart enough and had to wherewithal to take some of those home
with me, I'd be packing some extra dollars. If I only knew then
what I know now. Wasn't that one of the lyrics that's right when I
grew up to be a man? Exactly? Well, we want to thank
you because we find them at yard sales at flea markets because so many radio
stations either gave them away in contests or at live broadcasts, or just threw
them out that they end up out in the public, and that's what we
like. Do you yourself still collect and do you still go out and search?
I do, but I'm really shorted down. I collect basically what I
like, which I like the old duop and rockabilly. That's what I personally
liked, and so that's what I collect. Tell the tell the quick story
before we're gone here, John, About about you working for Stephen King.
Well, he's actually the reason that I got into this because I was doing
research for him and one day we were in his office and he's in his
big chair with the rollers on the wheels going back to back, back and
forth from desk to desk, and he rolled over the Beatles Meet the Beatles
and broke it. And I said, hey man, you just broke a
one hundred dollars record at that time, that's what it was worth. He
said, what are you talking about. I said, most people have no
idea about the value of their vinyl and he said, well, why don't
you tell them? And that put the b in my bonnet that someday i'd
started doing radio interviews, put out a price guide and see if I can
make some money. But you were actually a disc jockey on the air at
Stephen King's station in Maine. Correct. I was a program director. Yes,
guess who our personal consultant was? Bruce Springsteen. I bet he suggested
you play lots of Bruce on the air he did or else? Yeah,
it was amazing what we got because Stephen King was the owner of the station.
You know. We had jingles from Boy George and Culture Club. We
had liners from every rock artist you can imagine. I should have kept the
old tapes. I'm sorry I didn't. My favorite, my favorite story about
Stephen King, I'm not sure if it's true or not. Is uh?
I guess he was being interviewed by a reporter and said, you know,
you just seem like such a normal guy, and you write all these incredibly
horrid stories. He said, well, it's true. I have the heart
of a small child in a jar on my desk. That's true, Mighty
John Marshall moneymusic dot Com. Check it out. And if you're a vinyl
collector, this is the guy you need to know. I appreciate your time,
brother. As all was all right, guys, thanks much, happy
to you. We'll talk to you in the new Peter Bronson is here.
Rococostellano joins us after the news at eleven, and we'll get the details on
Mike Dewines press conference, which transpired just well less than a half an hour
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yeah, Well, you know, you let it sit in the rocks
glass at Long Pete and that's what happens. And you're a bartender. I
was expecting better, Gary. Jeff. Rocco is here. Rococostellano joins us,
our our fitness expert, our biohacker trained with Roco dot Com, joining
us for the hour. Yes, Gary, I'm here for you are for
as long as as you know you'll have me and then you kick me out.
Oh you know, I think I think if you can finish three or
four sentences, then maybe I was gonna gonna throw them out. You know,
I thought nobody's gonna nobody's gonna throw him out. I thought you were
mad. I can't even talk. That's really great. Yeah, no,
so you has on radio. You have some definite ideas for people to form
a plan for the new year ahead. And this is not in the form
of your usual run of the mill resolutions. This is about things that people
should think about about their health, about their diets that maybe they're not thinking
this way yet. Maybe they're they're thinking they're gonna go join a gym,
and that happens every January. Right, Well, I know that most of
the Cincinnatians are because eighty percent of Cincinnatians are fat. So we're gonna oh
no, no, I'm sorry, they're lipidly enhanced. That's what they because.
And I'm gonna say that that most people, you know, they come
to the New Years saying, oh, this year is the year, even
though ten years have passed and they were always the year. Well that's kind
of like Reds fans, right well, you know, and Angos fans too.
Connection that yeah, yeah, maybe there is a connection because they keep
they're so depressed they have to drink and they have to eat just to get
buy you know, because that teams suck. But so I can't stand a
New Year's resolution. I think that that people just put too much faith and
and they don't you know, most people say, oh, well, I
just don't have a will power, and willpower doesn't No one has will power.
That's that's the basic thing. No one has, well, no one,
no one, not even you, not even me. And the thing
about about getting things done, about creating plans, about a resolutions or or
a you know, a resolving that you're fat and you need to get something
done right, is that is that you need discipline and you have to dig
pretty deep to be able to to get the you know, like the discipline
to create a ritual and to and to want to know more about about how
to be healthy, because no one here wants to be healthy. Gar If
no one wants to be healthy, they just don't want to be sick.
And that's that's a huge distinction that I that I want to bring. Is
it a distinction with a difference though? Is there a difference between being healthy
and not being sick? Oh? Yeah, sure, because if you're not
going to be if you're just trying not to be sick. You're willing to
take a medication to feel a little better. Yeah, you know, you
know a mediocrites king here, right, So when you're when you're just coasting
along and you can take a medication to make things feel all right and not
awesome. Right. I like feeling awesome. I love walking out my door
knowing that if if the flu wants to come my way, I can,
I can, I can kick its ass, right. I know that when
COVID came, I was like, I was having my kids lick me.
I was like, okay, you know what we've been talking about weird parents
all morning, and now having your kids lick you, well, you know,
like they're kissing me the le I go. I got you, I
got you know. I want to try to get There was not there was
not a six foot safe space between your and your kids during the scandemic,
is what you're saying. No, there wasn't a safe space. I was
going up to people. I was like, listen, breathe on me,
breathe on me, and they're like, well, no, you could stop
being babies, right, And so so that's what I wanted. I want
people to be healthy too, you know, to really optimize you know,
their health, because if it's optimized, almost all the recommendations that doctors give
you are the minimum you know requirements, right the US, like the US
a DA gives you the minimum daily requirements, right, and not what's going
to keep you healthy. It's it's what's what's going to make you not get
sick, right, And so that's what I want people to get out out
of that mindset, get out of that head. Let's go rocket, let's
go like point by point. So we talked at the beginning of the thing
about a plan for the new year to be healthy. So let's first talk
about exercise and gyms and why you're not a big fan of these commercial gyms.
Well, I want most gyms to go out of business, except for
places like Orange Theory and where they make it fun, right, like make
it fun to do things. You have a camaraderie. Most gyms, you
go in there and you create a cycle of what's called called well a chronic
exercise, right, And a chronic exercise when you're already stressed out, when
you're already not eating eating right, because our nutrition or our food has no
nutrition in it. So you have to you're creating a you know, a
bigger stress cycle. So what I want people to do is just start the
new year getting outdoors. Do not join a gym. I don't want you,
and every gym's gonna be kalm. Yeah great, well too bad.
So I want people to get outside, even if it's raining, even if
it's snowing. Me and my kids we get outside no matter what, and
we do a minimum of about two miles, and we get up to five
miles of just walking, hiking, rocking, whatever it is. Well,
I mean to two miles. That does not take more than a half an
hour, right, no, not no, right, And people will go
spend thirty minutes at the gym. But you're saying it's not as good for
you overall as just getting outside and hiking a couple of miles. Well yeah,
and sometimes people are taking a half an hour to get to the gym
driving. Yeah, right, So why not just get out there, get
just walk outside your door. Yeah it might be raining like today, or
it may be a little annoying, but get out there first. Get in
you know, a dude, for twenty one days, for twenty eight days,
develop that habit, develop that momentum and when when that happens, and
then you want to work on your posture or or you have shoulder problems,
hip problems, need problems, then maybe go to the gym or or you
know, or go to physical therapy or go somewhere where you can fix that.
One of the great detriments I think to Americans' health, believe it or
not, were the COVID lockdowns and the fact that they made you stay inside.
You're talking about just the exact opposite, you know. And I still
see people outside with a mask over their face, walking by themselves, and
that that's not good either, is it? Or running? What what are
you doing with a mask on? Running? You're breathing in all that all
that garbage from that fit. And they've and they've seen there's studies now that
show that that there's microfibers deep in the lungs because of the masks, right,
that's crushing people can't be healthy. Well, no, no, no,
it's gonna cause you. It's gonna cause cancer. Absolutely that you know.
Any foreign object that's that's gonna be in your lung is gonna cause it's
gonna cause cancer or lung proms. Now, the walking thing, the getting
outside and getting outdoors. More importantly, I don't want people indoors exercising because
it's gonna be better. You have to you have to be in touch with
u with a nature. And there's something that the Japanese do that's a really
uh you know that's really cool. It's called uh, it's called a forest
bathing. They literally go into the forest and they just breathe in and out
and in and out, and they just let the forest bathe that. Well,
we're we're a part of nature, So why wouldn't we want to be
in nature? We we are a part of nature, just like organic.
Yes, yeah, we're organic beings, you know, and we're supposed to
be organic, but we're shoving our face filled with a processed foods, chemicals,
everything else, and we're not. We're not organic any We're definitely not
organic. And so we've got the the exercise the plan that maybe you should
follow if you want to be healthy in the new year. Let's talk about
uh, let's talk about the food the intake. And and you you're not
you're not enamored with people who just go hogwild and the keto diets, right,
Well, no, I'm no, I'm a keto guy, but I
don't like the keto diet the way that most people do, because, like
I was telling Peedo off off there, it's it's really most people think that
it's the bacon and butter diet and you can just shove your face filled with
uh with a meat with fat with all this and sounds delicious. Yeah,
no it is. It is delicious, but you know, like too much
meat and too much fat can cause issues. So so I I love uh
you know, I love key tomes. I like not a taking in in
a sugar. So I restrict my eating to a six hour window. Now,
not everyone can do that. Not everyone has that discipline that I give
us some example of your six hour window, Like what period you start,
Like you go to eleven and then and do you eat? Do you eat?
Do you eat every minute of that six hours? No? No,
no, no, no, it's a six hour diet and it's a bacon
but it's a five hundred course meal. But I'm only eating these six hours.
Go ahead, Well, but actually you can ish do do something similar.
But I I started at ten am when I started doing a time,
you know, a restricted eating, and then I that my first meal every
day is at twelve or one o'clock in the afternoon. That's when I start
eating right and then and then my last meal is at six at six thirty,
but some people can do it until late. The most important piece of
this is that you go and you fast for more than twelve hours. So
when you're sleeping for eight hours for nine hours like that, you're already fasting.
You're already in that fasted state. And then and then it's it's it's
actually better for you to go a little bit longer, right, and got
off earlier in the evening and not be stuff in your face till ten o'clock
correct, correct, and so that so that is going to that's going to
put your body automatically in a ketosis. And then you're burning a keytnes and
not and I sugar And then what that does is it also trims the fat.
Now, when you do it that way, you can have three meals
within your feeding window without a six hour window. Yeah, yeah, well,
I mean a six hours is a little much. Most people do do
eight, you know, eight and and a sixteen, So a sixteen,
you know a fasting eight. But I do eighteen and six, right,
because I feel better that way. Sure, it's just a way that and
it's a personal preference. If you feel better, then do other six hours.
But then what I want after that is that you follow a more a
Mediterranean high in vegetable like fruits and vegetable intakes. So it's an eighty twenty.
There are a lot of greens in Mediterranean diets as well. Yeah,
well there is, you know, and the salmon. We're very law here,
especially in A vitamin D and E and A D H, A E,
P A, you know, all the B vitamins. You know,
the reason why there's so much a mental illness is because we're deficient in B
vitamins, specifically A B six and a B six fold eight and a B
twelve. So B six B vitamins are good for your mental health, is
what you're telling me. Oh well, they're the brain vitamins. Actually,
yeah, okay, you know, so we want to a lot of people
don't know that, no, no one, the doctor don't know it.
It drives me insane. They're oh, well, i'll give you an SSRI,
but let's not do let's not take supplements whatsoever. And then I want
people to really start if you know, if they can go outdoors do activities
and I forgot to mention like basketball, biking, walking, hiking, a
rucking, things that are more activity based, golfing without a cart, imagine
that, right, and doing things like that that's gonna be more beneficial for
you. Eat eat, eat a Mediterranean diet in a time, a restricted
manner, you're gonna feel a million times better. And then when you start
that, now, this isn't gonna happen overnight. So don't think, oh
well I'm you know, I'm just gonna start this. I want this to
happen over the next twenty eight days, the next forty five. Well what
do you suggest for somebody then that they should try this internet and fasting like
for a week and see how they feel, or then maybe ended a little
bit on the ends. Well I would start, you know, I would
start intomin fasting you know today, you know, over the week, always
do things over the weekend. Hard to do on a holiday weekend, though,
well, well that's better say Monday, right, But that's the thing.
So if if you want to see how how a discipline do you are,
try it on. You know, you started this discussion saying that none
of us have willpower. So no, but you know, willpower, like
I said, very different than discipline, okay, right, and so so
you have to you have to really wrench, you know, like ratchet it
down, and and you have to create a tiny habit out of it.
So so I also recommend if you guys, you know, like the audience,
can go look up bj Fog. He's got a great system called called
tiny habits and fog yep, b j fogg yep, bj fog. And
that's gonna that can start your processing for your planning for the new year,
for for the rest of your life. This is not for the new year,
it's for the rest of your life. And and uh so if you're
eating a rite and you're doing and you're starting to plan it out and you're
doing it for a little while and you're feeling better, then I want you
to start thinking about health optimization. Right the supplementation like sound sounds like a
perfect place to break, because we've got to break for health optimization, health
optimism. If you have questions for Roco, he's going to be hanging with
us the last half hour. Also, Peter has compiled the mainstream media's top
stories of the year, and the ones that we think are should be the
top story, and the ones you won't see on their list, and the
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and Roco Costellano our guests up until noon train at Roco dot com. That
was nice, so always nice to have company, brother and less of course
you come from a family that's dysfunctional, and you've been crammed in a in
a house with your family for the entirety of the vacation of the holiday.
Yeah, I'd say it depends on the company. It does depend on the
company always. This is a good company here. We talked about health optimization
before and you made a bold statement. I don't know where you get your
numbers, but you said ninety percent of people in this area are insufficient in
the supplements and vitamins that they should be getting on a daily basis. Well,
that was your bold statement. My bold statement was a ninety up percent
of the people are are actually insufficient in vitamin D three okay, right,
And vitamin D three insufficient is a below thirty nanograms up per a milli right,
and then and then and then elation here needs to be over sixty.
Okay. But the minute the doctors in the and the numbers people say,
oh, well, you're fine at thirty because you're you know you're not.
You're at sufficiency if you're over thirty. But that's not where you want to
be. You want to be at sixty because we know, because there are
studies out there that showed that if your vitamin D was over sixty, you
didn't get covid and you most likely won't get the flu. You won't get
sick. Now, the secret to taking vitamin D is you need to take
it at five thousand. I use, right a five thousand international unit,
right at minimum minimum, not the two thousand that the doctors are gonna throw
at you or whatever. And then every now and then double that up to
about ten thousand I use right now. K two is the secret. Vitamin
K two, either M four, M seven you need to take because a
supplemental D three is going to cause serum calcium like to run rampant. So
you want to control your serum a calcium so that you don't get author you
know, usclerosis, you don't get heart issues, you don't get like the
hardenings of rockyard. So how many pills do you take on a given day
to maintain these levels that you're talking about? I take about, uh,
like between twenty two and and twenty seven. Uh, you know actual capsules
capitalis yeah, and that every day all supplements over the counter stuff, yes,
you can get it like in a health store. Yeah. So I
take things like essential amino acids right, some A lot of people take a
branch chain aminos. I don't like them. I like the full, the
full essential amino acid. I take something called a Glutathian. I take something
called l l Athenian right to calm my brain. I take as ganda to
also, you know, like calm my brain. Aaron Rodgers was talking about,
Yeah, yeah, well it's a great well and men should take it,
Okay, men should take it because of distress levels that were under on
on a a the basis. And when you're under all this stress, your
testosterone, you know, takes a huge a noseedive, right, So if
you can limit that, right, just taking a twosh, you know,
a Wagonda's is going to uh you know, uh decrease your stress. It's
going to help to raise your testosterone. But you know, I want to
know what Roco looks like without a combra. You say a lot of doctors
just drive you crazy. Well, they do, because you know, they
don't know they they have their own protocols. They think in their own way,
and they're not thinking in a health optimization way. They're thinking in in
a sick way. You know, you're sick instead, you know, and
years ago. Chinese doctors right, uh, you know, and Chinese medicine
they used to they used to get rid of the doctors or and and sometimes
kill the doctors if they didn't keep you healthy. That was the most important
thing. It was the glories of living in a communist country. Well,
well, still sick kill kill in western where you know, he's got to
take the bullet out of a guy the gun of his head, that guy.
Well, but that's that. You know, there are some some good
things about you know, ancient medicine, and you know, like Shamans Uh,
nothing good about communist countries, Roco, there's nothing good about communism and
and communist countries, but they do there is, you know, within a
Chinese medicine. There's a lot of really really good and you're talking about ancient
Chinese and before yeah, before maw before Mawr and all those people. So
what what is a Chinese herb that you would recommend to people? Can you
recommend any of any of the Chinese herbs or you know against you know againcing
against ing however you want to pronounce it. That's one of my favorite out
there because of the energy. But you can't just take that you need to
be doing what I was just saying, you know, like the glue divine,
the essential amino acids, the vitamin D three, the D H A,
the E P a uh and and the B complex. And one thing
that I that drives me absolutely crazy to your point about doctors, right,
is that they will say, oh, well you should take in vitamin C.
You could uh just gonna ask you about that, right, So vitamin
C? Right, all right, all this all this great stuff. But
a scorbic acid is a is a garbage. Is a garbage A molecule.
It's not it's a very cheap a molecule, and it's it doesn't work the
way that you really want it to because you get rid of it. You
know, it's a water soluble vitamin, so it goes right through the system
and right into the toilet, right and and all you all you have is
expensive p from it, right, and you know it turns at colors and
all that stuff. So you don't want your pet to turn colors because you're
wasting your vitamins. Then, huh. So we recommend something called called a
scorable pomititate. It's a fat soluble, it's a liposolmal you know, a
fat a soluble a vitamin C. Uh where where that when you take that
in, your fat cells are now carrying and just storing your vitamin C until
you need it. It's like almost on a time release thing. It's not
just in and out of your system. It's it's actually stored in in the
fat. Absolutely, it's stored and now you you have it when you need
it. Right if you're flooding your system with this garbage molecule. Now,
I mean some people do the IV of vitamin C, which is good,
but I always, you know, I always recommend escoble palmitate and most doctors
are to go, what that's good. I'm not a I'm not a fan
of needles, and I don't have an IV bag at home. Uh.
Dave and Dayton has a question for you. Okay, that's a relative that
pertains to the Weekend Ahead and the special Night on Sunday. Dave, go
ahead, yes, early. Happy New Year to you both. And Rock.
I've heard you on with Gary Jeff before. I love your segments,
but I had one objection on You really really hate the use of any alcohol
and you call it poison. Then you make a comic every drink. No,
Well, you said every drink it destroys you know, brain cells.
And I just if the ninety study, if you're the ninety study where ninety
year old there's more the one or two drink a day people have better brain
health and less dementia, and then the people that were straight that didn't drink
at all were worse off. And I have two cases. My mom doesn't
drink. They're both eighty five my parents. My mom doesn't drink at all,
and her early dementia's onset is way worse than my dad, who's eighty
five and drinks two scotches, two or three scotches a day. And I
just I just propose. I mean, there's a lot of old people that
you know on longevity has said, hey, they've they've done a shot of
bourbon or a drink of bourbon every day and whatever. So I just didn't
know if your stance on alcohol, like I do. I do the fast.
I do the fast, and I allowed forty eight to fifty pounds on
the past, but one thing I won't give up is a couple of beers
a day to enjoy. Yeah. Yeah, So, so Dave, the
study that you're referencing is it was. It was a great study and the
people that were doing that were taken in in alcohol were also active. That's
the thing that I keep saying is that if you're going to do something that
can limit your you know or I kill brain cells, you have to be
a regenerating those those brain cells. Also, So if your diet's fine,
if you're if if you're doing activity or you're exercising in the right way,
you got to keep moving around. Well, it's the movement, you know,
and the oxygen that gets to the brain. I'm more than you know,
I'm more than happy for people to drink. I wanted to drink well
as a bartender. Second emotion, well, but the thing is I want
that's you know, when you're drinking and and you're over drinking, because there
was also there's also another uh, well, several studies that showed that if
if you're hungover right, you have the same a recovery and the same and
the same state of your body that that you would have if you had the
flu. So if you're hungover, your body has to take so much more
to get you know, to get back to where it was. Dave,
I hope that answers your question. We're running short, uh and Rocco,
I want to tell you very much how how much I have set you coming
up today? Oh well, you will always always love to have you,
and we'll hopefully have you in the new year. And some nightcaps coming up.
Peter Browns, and it's been marvelous to have you here today. We
had a good time in our last few minutes. You did a little research
here about what mainstream news, or what many people consider mainstream news, thought
were the top stories of twenty twenty three. Give me some NPR tops.
Everybody says, well, NPR's just balanced, there's no agenda there, and
they're concerned about objective news coverage. So give me some of NPR's top stories
of the year. That was well, Once upon a time in the newsroom,
the editors would get together and debate what were the top stories based on
their significance, their long term implications, how we would look back at those,
let's say in five years. Okay, nowadays they do it by clickbait.
They just count the clicks. So you see top stories like Taylor Swift.
Oh, of course she's a top story. What significance does she have?
Zero? How about renaming birds. You know, what, what significance
does she have? She was a definite her concert here was definite boom for
the local economy. Yes, so yeah, there is some significance. But
as far as nothing meaningful that we're going to carry for this FI perhaps something
like let's say the border, Yes, exactly. Okay, that's something you
will not see. I'm predicting on most of the media's top ten stories because
they didn't cover it up until about three months ago. So here's another one,
renaming birds that was near the top. Yes, renaming bird. Renaming
birds a story on NPR. It gets a lot of clicks. And here's
one that they put there just for wish lists, you know, for the
wish list? Is Trump indicted? Oh of course, Well that's their big
story. What we don't see is the big story is perhaps, and I'm
predicting Hunter Biden. How about the systemic corruption that has been revealed in this
country in the past year by these jarring discrepancies between, for example, the
way Trump was treated with his presidential papers, yes, and the way Hiden
was and the way Hunter is treated and the way Joe Biden is treated on
the very same issues, I mean what people are losing is their confidence and
their respect for our institutions. We have very little faith in our government anymore.
You can see it. Look at what happened near the end of the
year with academia. I mean it was just an exposure of how ideologically Glaudine
Gay is still the president at Harvard. Yes, and that probably won't make
the top story, But to most Americans, I would say things like the
border, this systemic corruption that's happening in our country, the breakdown of our
institutions, and we're being told by the Biden administration every single day that the
economy is improving, inflation and people are not Another one you won't see it
that overdose deaths in this country again topped to one hundred thousand for the second
year in a row. And there's just fentanyl overdose sort. This is all
kinds of overdoses, and it's just this is an untold story. It's completely
papered over. We don't read about it. But this is what most people
in real America are dealing with. Inflation, high gas prices, a lack
of faith and confidence in our institutions. Look at the justice system for crying
out loud. We have Supreme Court justices who think that their duty is to
tell voters who they can and cannot vote for. In Colorado and Maine,
the CIA. The CIA is being sued right now for funding hiding Hunter Biden's
everything Everything. CIA is being sued by a couple of groups. Oh,
he was all set up for the sweetheart ride, wasn't he. Yeah,
and then the judge just kind of spoiled everything. And now he actually has
to be charged with some misdemeanors and maybe one or two thousands. I mean,
Merrick Garland's Department of Justice, it might as well be some corrupt sheriff
in some little town out west in the you know, in the Pioneer days,
you know, who's just looking after his buddies who are robbing banks in
the next town. I mean, that's the way the Department of Justice appears.
Oh, we're not supposed to pay attention to that, because what the
mainstream media will want you to pay attention to is things like renaming birds Taylor
Swift. And by the way, it was really hot last summer, which
means climate changed, climate crisis. I was just going to mention that,
Yeah, and the fact of the matter is the only big news from twenty
twenty three about the climate crisis is that they're still preaching this mantra that has
been dispelled by the scientific facts and day evidence. It's by the evidence,
by the science itself. Yes, when they deny the sun or the clouds
impact on our climate, my mind is made up. Don't trouble me with
the facts. No, I don't want to hear it. Go to Sea
Fact, Go to the Heritage Foundation, go to CO two Coalition. You
can find the actual raw data. Rocco. Happy New Year, Happy New
Year. I will I will definitely have one for you on New Year's Eve.
Well good, but I'm good because I want because I don't drink alcohol.
I want everyone out there to have one, you know for me?
Okay, just one, just one. I was gonna say, if everyone
will, If if Pete's not, can I take up his slack and have
time? Well, Happy New Year to everybody tuned in. I'll be back
tomorrow morning. God willing for the Saturday morning edition to show that I'm proudly
done for over a quarter century and I love every opportunity to get to talk
to you. Bear Cat wrap up, and the rest of the day is
yours. Have a fantastic Friday seven hundred w l W Let it all out,
honey. Maybe doctor Smith can help. I am so