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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and
welcome back to the final X Men Animated

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series retrospective. I am the muty
geek trast. Now I'm joined by I'm

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mister Kirkland Kirkland Petzer. I am
the right hand trolled illness on you next

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to feel There you go, ladies, gentlemen too. At the time when

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we're recording this is January eighteenth,
we had started this retrospective last year on

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January eighth, so a year and
ten days. It is actually the second

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longest retrospective because me and Tamiman we
did Clone Wars that was a year and

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a month, so it has it
beat by a couple of weeks. But

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still this is a very long you
know, also makes it I actually I

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forgot. I guess I should go
back and get the stats. And our

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Spider Man retrospective, I was gonna
say, because that had what a couple

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more seasons or I had this had
a very short season, so yeah,

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maybe a similar amount, but just
had more episodes consistently. That one was

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tough though, because I think we
took quite a few breaks. Sometimes a

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Spider Man retrospective there's a couple like
month long, well we were waiting for

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Kyle, and then Kyle never showed
and last three episodes they dipped out.

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You know, Oh my god.
But we made all through, all of

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us, each and every single episode. So that's the thing. Luckily,

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it depends on you look at it. We don't have a date for X

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Men. That's why this retro was
planned this way because originally it was,

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well, it's going to be January
February this year, and as of right

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now it's not, but it's supposed
to be I think right now March or

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April, so that gives you time
if you see this, and I don't

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think you would have jumped to listen
to this one, but for some reason,

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we're just like, oh, you're
already at the end and you listen

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to it. Now you wonder what's
next. Well, probably got some Patren

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stuff that we've been cooking up.
We're definitely gonna do like an X Men

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ninety seven predictions and stuff. But
if you've missed any episode, or if

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you go, oh, I want
to start watching it now when I get

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a date. All those episodes are
here, I would probably recommend if you

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want to get them all, go
to the review feed. They're all on

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the main feed, but the review
feed, they're probably much more easier to

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find the years warth because there's lest
episodes on that feed where this is.

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You know, there's usually three to
four episodes a week. So yeah,

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thanks everyone that did listen to them, and we are here to talk about

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the final five episodes of season five. So, Taylor, you said you're

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feeling a little a little sad,
I don't know, a little melancholy with

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this ending. So what do you
feel about? You know, we're gonna

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go episode by episode as usual,
but what did you just feel is these

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final five is a sendoff to this
retro that we've been talking about, the

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show. We've been talking about for
over a year now. Yeah, it's

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it does not feel like it's been
a year hot to Molly, but I

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will say that there is. Yeah, there is some sentiments that have kind

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of formed out of the finale,
and I feel happy to say too,

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Like even I feel like Julie had
a really really good episode that I quite

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enjoyed here and the finale kind of
caught me off guard. It's not what

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I was expecting to happen. And
I'm excited to talk about that finale episode

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because I think there's some interesting things
regarding it, but all in all,

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I think it was just a very
Yeah, it was just a very calm,

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quiet kind of thing. There was
nothing kind of over the top,

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nothing huge and game changing. It
just felt like, yeah, this is

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this is where we are now.
It didn't feel like they ran out of

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ideas, but it definitely felt like, Okay, they're definitely kind of like.

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It didn't. It's it's calm,
like, Okay, it's super chill

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from like our other story arcs that
we've hit and all that kind of stuff.

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But yeah, even the animation,
which was weird at times, but

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it was I felt like it was
definitely better than before. And it's just

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funny how the first few episodes of
season five just was it was it was

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done one way, like it felt
like like we talked about how maybe this

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was like season one stuff that they
did, and they just like scraped these

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episodes or whatever and then threw it
in for a season five because the animation

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changes there. But it's it's weird
because the start of season five it feels

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like they backtracked the animation and the
animation changes to like something completely different and

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new, and yeah, but anyways, it was hard disagree. Yeah,

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I was gonna say that the finale
is dog shit, like it's really bad

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face, Like they recast her in
this, she looked completely different. She

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got canceled my head. Oh yeah, I think these pographs, I guess.

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I'm yeah, I'll go quick because
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feel like they were out of ideas
and it's just like a lot of pussy

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footing around and the episode from six
on it just gets worse and worse quality

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wise as far as the animation,
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talk about, and I do appreciate
that the last episode is like a finale

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in a sense because talking about the
Spider Man retrospective, that's the shittiest thing

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is that episode is like it's like
spier Man has to go save MJ and

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we never know we saved her.
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in the ethos. So it's like
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We'll get there. But uh yeah, these are these are very mid tier

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episodes that if they're not the final
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special oof to them, So what'll
be you doing? Yeah, I'm definitely

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more on your side of it,
Travis. I mean, I agree that

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animation quality wasn't very good. I
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it's just it's just weird to put
these at the very end of the

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last season. Like, to me, there's some good ground to be covered

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here potentially, but it just feels
like ill placed, I suppose, and

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ultimately, just yeah, I think
it's pretty hard to follow up, especially

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how they ended so strong with that
last season with or season four, rather

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so to go in here and it
just kind of feels like they went out

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with a whimper. In the last
episode, it just feels like a bit

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rush, and there's a couple of
nice moments, but overall, I was

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pretty I don't know, I was
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I also had very little expectations off
of one just the first half of the

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season, but also Travis helping set
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it was pretty weak for me,
just a batch of some pretty poor episodes

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in general. So yeah, it's
an unfortunate way to end it. But

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obviously it's not the end, because
we're we're coming back with ninety seven at

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some point this year. So I'm
glad we the time into this is nice

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that we can end here, maybe
have a couple month break, and then

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come back and hopefully be stronger than
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Yeah, Kirkland, where you we
heard a bit of your thoughts. Yeah,

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I definitely noticed the decline and just
like the animation quality of like certain

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certain like walking animations, they just
felt so stiff and like it's almost like

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Marrow Wind characters walking, you know, no disrespect, like certain characters,

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the way that they walk. They
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on this But this is definitely a
weird string of episodes, just a weird

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season overall, and it really just
feels like The Adventures of X Men or

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something like, not like attached to
like an actual storyline. She's just like,

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let's just let's just like together.
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Not too crazy, but yeah,
I mean, I guess there's a couple

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episodes in here that that get wild, especially the episode six, the first

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one that we'll talk about. But
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weird, I actually enjoyed it in
some weird way, like there is still

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some things I have issues on issues
with, but yeah, actually that is

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a good comparison with the what If
because like even just you know, minor

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spoiler before we're about to talk to
it, like Troll Wolverine, like I

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never would have thought of that character
ever, and Marvel sixteen hundred episode,

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like we just gone what If pretty
much pretty much. Yeah, So like

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some things like that, it was
actually kind of fun to see and just

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see Jubilee with like the elf Ears
and just like this it's almost like they're

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like a D and D campaign or
something. But like with these X Men

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characters, so that weird aspect and
some other character pairings and and origin I

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just was not expecting to have here
in the second last episode of it.

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It was just a very strange string
of episodes. It's definitely like, you

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know, bittersweet as we're getting near
the end of here, because it's it's

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just been a ride that we've been
on. Fortunately, you know, we

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do have ninety seven coming up,
so the end is never truly the end.

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So but yeah, I'm curious to
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I feel like I don't even know
exactly how I feel like about these episodes

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and until I talk about them with
you guys, because there is a lot

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of things I have issues with,
but they just kind of went for it

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in some weird way that I'm somewhat
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I got to at least see it
on there. But a weird, weird

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final season for sure, But who
knows. Maybe if this was like season

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three or something like these strings of
episode in season three, I would have

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completely forgot about them. But the
fact that like it is the final season,

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I think it just has a little
bit more of an impression on me

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and will be a little bit more
rememberable memorable. But yeah, that's why

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you can see many of us were
excited by the announcement, because you know,

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we still got four seasons of great
stuff, so it's not like,

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oh, we don't have anything,
but it's nice to maybe have a higher

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note. But let's start off here. Episode six, Jubileese fairy Tale Theater.

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Jubilee leads a group of school children
on a two or a cave on

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mansion property, only to be caught
in a cave. Oh sorry to be

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caught in a cave in as the
water of the cave rise is, she

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keeps the kids calm by spinning a
medieval fairy tale of knights, princesses,

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trolls, and dragons. Some of
these characters might just seem to resemble the

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X Men. As she tells the
kids these stories, the real X Men

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arrive and save them. So one
I just thought it was real X Men.

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Yeah, the reax then I just
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Though, Is that is that what
happened? I don't think so that's what

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Wikipedia things happens. But I like, I don't know which We've not seen

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this cave before, so maybe people
have done this. It was just odd

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that like at one point something breaks
and they kind of get their like their

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path obstructentally just kind of like,
oh, yeah, happens all the time

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here, Like it just felt very
nonchalant. I I don't know, you

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probably just could have sat them at
a campfire and just done more stuff in

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the past. I don't think we
needed anything of Jubie with the kids.

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I appreciate seeing Jubilee like in a
teacher role or guardian role. Now,

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as we talked about I hope that
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agre down again, like I want
her to be, you know, more

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adult like, and she has been
this final season. She's been more part

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of the team and we get more
of that later, So I don't I

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liked that aspect, and I do
have a good time with this. We

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talked about we just did the I
can't remember what the what was the actual

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name the what if episode? But
it's like I kind of too, yeah,

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like it I forgot about this episode. This just mirrors that. This

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is just sixteen oh two pretty much
with the X Men, So it's a

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fun time it again. That's where
I feel like this episode. I enjoy

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it, but it does feel like
for me, they were out of ideas.

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It's like, what do we do
well? What if they were in

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medieval times? And it's like,
all right, but some cool imagery.

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Magneta looks fucking badass in this.
Yeah, like the Metallics. You've been

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loyal, but go away now,
like whatever the hell he says. So

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I like, I like the episode
is like just a kind of bottle episode

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by itself, just on like Jubilee. I It's weird because I feel like

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throughout the whole show, Like there
definitely is moments in certain seasons that she

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just kind of is not there,
like not present at all. And if

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you look at the overall I guess
chronological order of the show, like in

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general all the seasons, like you
do see some growth with her in here,

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but like for me, I just
felt like the star of this episode,

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it's just like season one Jubilee of
like she's not able to go see

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the president and she's just like whining
like a little brat, like are you

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kidding me? I don't get to
go do this like you treat me like

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a kid. So that was just
kind of it seemed very like succinct I

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guess is the worst, but like
I think it's just like her attitude as

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well. It's just it reminded me
of that early Jubilee of like yeah,

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like like some of the toilet for
a second in that line because she says,

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why do I have to do?
Like what's she talking about? Like,

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oh, watch the kids fair enough, but no, I'm tired of

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plunging the toilets. I'm complete with
you, Kirklan. I feel like this

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episode just character development lives would make
more sense to throw it into maybe season

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three or something where she feels like
she's established her ground a little bit,

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and then they're still treating her this
way. But I feel like, truly

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in season four, we got to
a point where she kind of elevated to

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a point where she was on that
main team level, so it felt And

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also like the cave thing, like
it doesn't it's not really that impactful,

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but it still feels weird that we're
getting this revealed that there's this massive labyrinth

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cave underneath the X Mansion. Like
both these things feel like plot points that

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should have been established a few seasons
ago, and it's like, why couldn't

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they have done it? Because it's
such a one off, random episode,

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it doesn't really matter what happened directly
before or after. So it does feel

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like a weird timing for it,
But I'm all for it for the just

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fairy tale element of it, Like
of course that's just super fun to see,

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yeah, and that like I guess
if like Traves, you pitched like

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just doing a campfire sequence, Like
I guess there is her being a bit

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of a guardian here is just a
campfire. Maybe she doesn't have a moment

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to kind of use her powers to
stop the flood coming. But I just

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found it so strange. Every time
it's like, kay, kids, just

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stay here for a second, and
she'll like run around the corner. Oh

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shit, Tsunami's coming. Get over
of this freaking cave. Like there's no

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sense of urgency from her that she
like goes around the corner. Okay,

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kids, back to the story.
I'm like, this is just so strange,

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like this decision here, but the
kids didn't even care though they were

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so captivated by its true her storytelling
skills. When the X Men show up,

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they's just like, but what happened
to our heroes or whatever? You

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know, Like they don't care they
almost nearly died. And then I know

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who you are. You're the troll. I love that Gambit is given the

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role of the fool in this because
like he looks like in a bit right

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with his his I don't even call
it a mask and his helmet, like

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he he kind of has that appearance. Then also character whise, it makes

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a lot of sense. So that
was a that was another fun pairing.

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And then Xavier as like he was
like a weird a weird combo. But

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I'm like, all right, I
guess it kind of. I guess it

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kind of fits the all knowing Exaber
whatever it was, stupid name they give

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him. He's just a floating be
But yeah, I think I think it

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works for he's the guyance right,
and he has these big, big powers,

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so I kind of bought him being
a bottom being a genie, you

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know, or for me, Wolvering
perfect casting is the troll. So I

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don't know if he was a genie. Wasn't he like the most powerful sorcerer?

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Yeah, he's like that, looks
like he did look like a generic

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genie. Yeah. What will you
take more about this episode? I,

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I mean, just to echo them
also what you guys have said, But

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I mean I genuinely liked it.
I like that she's come to this point

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now of just not being that like
the kid that she was the kids that

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she was telling the story to.
I think that this should have been a

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version of herself that appeared sooner in
the show and not in like the last

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of like the few episodes of the
whole series. That's kind of unfortunate because

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this is definitely a character that I
like more. But again, seeing her

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development and seeing her grow into this
more leadership kind of role. Is that's

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huge, and that's pretty fantastic.
But at the end of the day,

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as the X Men saved her,
she couldn't get them out of the the

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wherever this dangerous fucking No she does
though, right because she busts through the

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rock at the end of the day, which gets them out of the cave.

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Right did she bust I thought it
was yeah, because I thought it

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was a team on the outside.
No, that was something I really liked.

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Actually, is they timed it so
like Jubilee like taking down Magneto,

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Like when she goes for that fate
that's final strike. That like times up

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perfectly with her smashing the rock wall
or I don't know, maybe she's using

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her power. I forget exactly what
she's doing, but she busts through and

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I really like that kind of editing. Colmbo there she's best X Men character.

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And there's somehow just right outside the
cave in this random part of the

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field, like who knows how far
it's from the X Men or the x

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mensioned entrance at that point, but
they're all just standing there, like what's

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going on in there? I just
don't know if, like I wouldn't trust

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my kid to go to this school
of the gifted with these mutees. Well

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lots of them, but lots of
them didn't get their parents and trusted a

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lot of them just to like get
out of here, fucking freak, like

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they have nowhere to go. Some
of these kids, right, are the

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kids mutants? I just thought they
were just kids on a field trip.

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Geologist nerd want them they have time
to just look after regular kids because they

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were going back to like their regular
old I thought it was just like your

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regular school trip. But then now
you mentioned I swear one of the kids

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had like red skin, like not
just like pasty, but like they were.

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I thought they were mute because it's
weird, like I'm gonna refer back

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to or refer into some in the
future. But it's like they just randomly

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drop in the finale that no one
ever knew Charles Xavier was a mute,

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and I was like, oh,
that's something, so that's our I was

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like, maybe you could be right, Taylor, they're not they're normal kids.

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Maybe they're not, maybe they are
mutine and I don't know. I

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took it as they are mute and
kids, and these are other students,

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because it just feels weird of like, why would you really just have to

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stay back and walk just some normal, non mutant kids, Like they could

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wait to do this another time.
I don't know, it just that's why

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I felt like, this is this
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Yeah, you watch the regular kids, Julia we go do saving the world

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stuff. Geez. But I just
the episode was exactly, as you said,

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a weird like a prequel to sixteen
oh two almost in a weird way,

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but the same vibe, same theme, And I loved it. I

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love seeing everything in this alternate world. And I thought it was a great

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idea just to kind of calm the
kids down and just seeing how she stayed

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calm, because if I was in
that situation, it would be very alarming.

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And she just was like nonchalant about
it. So she handled it like

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a fucking pro. That'd say she
got a little lucky too, yes,

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oh yeah, but they didn't just
drown, but could have happened, could

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have happened anything else on this episode. But what was the name of the

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crystal that they had in here?
Again? It showed up before chron chron

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Crystal. Yeah, I like how
they weave that into the story and just

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kind of like paralleled like a story
that we've already done. And then of

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course just like the fantastical medieval spin
on it. I like how it wasn't

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just something entirely brand new, and
obviously there's familiar faces throughout the story,

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but I like the overall I guess
plot of the story that she was telling.

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There I feel retelling of the Phoenix
force again, like in the back,

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you know, yeah exactly. I
did laugh so hard though, when

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you have Gambit that's running from the
Magneto's metallic army, and then he just

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like comes across these two farmer looking
individuals with their with their cart, and

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he's just like he's just waving his
hands around, you know, he's wearing

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like just these these grubby garbs,
like you know, from their perspective,

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this guy is just a complete lunatic. He's like, the clankers are trying

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to get me. You gotta hide
me. He's like, if you don't,

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the rebellions doomed, and they're like, okay, get in the hay.

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And then of course he gets just
caught right away. It's like you

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gotta help me fight. He took
so long to explain the situation. It

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was such a chaotic moment, but
I just laughed so hard. But like

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they have never seen this guy before, and then by the end of it,

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they're just like in arms with him
fighting these metallic robots. Like it

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was just it was just a really
funny sequence of events that have you laughing.

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Yeah, that's other than that,
that's the last thing I really have

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to stay on this episode. Yeah, not much for me. I think

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it was like it was fun for
the visual element, but narratively, like

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x ment team wise, there wasn't
really much a chee on for me here,

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mm hmm. Anything else, anybody
go once, going twice, We'll

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give a thumb up. That's a
fun single thumb yep, I'll go middle

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give one one firm thumb, one
firm thumb number seven, Episode seven,

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Old Soldiers Wolverine things back to the
time where he won during World War Two.

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Uh, he teamed up with Captain
America wolver Catch. American must break

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into a Nazi establishment to rescue a
kidnapped scientist, Andre cat Tuo. How

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we saw said his name yet?
Yeah that sounds better and fight the red

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scrawl red skull s, right,
not the red scrawl scrawl super red skull.

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So what do you guys think about
this? I'm not were you spoil

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because I'm not sure was the thumbnail
thumbnails cap? Okay, yeah, as

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soon as I saw it, I
got really really hyped hitting into this one.

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Ye did it deliver you? There? His finger up? I'm curious

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what I was just saying. Okay, I this was This was very anticipated

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because of the thumbnail. Like I
just I'm like, man, like,

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this is gonna be super super hype. We got we got the World War

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two era cap and Logan like this, this Parian is is crazy and Logan's

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in this just like noir outfit almost
where he just got like his his burglar.

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He's like a wet bandit almost with
his garb in here. I I

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had a lot of fun with this
episode, but I also just think it's

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like I had a lot of fun
for just ridiculous reasons on like certain things

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that were going on. This was
the honest Like, up until this point,

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I didn't think the animation was that
atrocious, But this episode really really

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just shined through of like this is
where I was talking about like the weird

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stiff walking. There was so many
sequences when you had two characters just like

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waddling along like the road, it
just looked so strange to me. We

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had a lot of funny close ups
with certain characters, just a couple of

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shout out when we get there,
but uh, like a lot to kind

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of, i don't know, maybe
be nippicky and rip apart. But also

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just like the pairing of having Cap
in there with Logan was actually lots of

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lots of fun for me. The
end of the episode had me hysterically laughing

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for just what happens with Logan in
the tube because like, the whole story

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pretty much these last five episodes are
just like people telling a story, which

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is kind of funny, but yeah, like the whole episode's just standing and

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like in so much anger of this
individual, and like it's not just this

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one episode that he's been feeling this
way, like clearly since World War Two

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when when he when he missed out
on this guy, Like he's just had

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this utter hatred for him. Like
one person shows up, explains the thing

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to him, and he fucking writes
here on his tomb style Like that was

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just so funny. We had Logan
with a nutshell. We Logan with like

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clip on claws that was just so
so funny, and you have yeah,

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you got cap that's wearing them at
some point. But I was kind of

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jumping all over the place there because
this episode is pretty weird. But uh,

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yeah, I I did have a
lot of fun with this one,

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for sure, Darry did you apparently
you didn't see any animation changes because you're

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crying the whole time. So other
than that, what do you think of

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this episode? Yeah? I didn't
have I didn't have an issue with the

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animation for this episode, but you
high, you high what I was gonna

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jump to Kirk and just the fact
that Logan is just fucking spitting on this

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guy's grave, just Harris, He's
just in Paris to spit on this grave.

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Vacations I'm finally, No, after
four years he does a vacation.

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He just desecrates graves, just visits
soldiers who were pieces of ship that he

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knew. Just I wish you were
noll, you know. I mean,

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between not getting InVID to the BSTRO
and this guy turning on Logan like he

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was just having a fucking horrible,
horrible time in Paris. But yeah,

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yeah, just I I did not
realize Captain America was in this. I

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did not see the thumbnail, so
he going in and just seeing him in

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here, I was super excited.
I was again, I was not even

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expecting Red Skull. Red Skull's little
armor suit just got fucking bopped. What

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a piece of shit that was said
much time building and hyping it up.

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He didn't show his quality in this
episode. Red Skull, you know,

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no bopped a lot. You know
what. It sucks too because we do

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this whole time with X Men or
other stuff, but specifically X Men,

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we're like, oh, man,
can't wait till you get the MCU,

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see what they do with them.
And I almost did that with Red Skull.

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I was like, oh, I
can't wait till the Red School gets

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the MCU. I'm like, oh
no, We're like we got our Red

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Skull and was just like, man, it just sucks. Such a great

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villain. I feel like in so
much media that's not comic books, he's

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just he's not not the top tier
villain you'd want to be, you know,

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but oh well, yeah we move. I mean even it was just

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the way that he had Logan and
Cap just harnessed out. I love that

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it was like medieval time torture devices
just strung cav up and stuff that just

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kind of made me laugh. But
the way Logan is like, oh,

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you just need your shield paraphrasing why
did you say bub And he does this

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super flamboyant, unrealistic just way of
getting the shield, and it's just he

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kicks it and it freeze Captain America. But I would have liked to see

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a little bit more from Red Skull. He leaves all of their shit right

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there for them. He's like,
what's coming up next for you? Guys?

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You should be more worried about than
he leaves the room. I don't

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know. And there were so many
goons here too. I feel like like

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we've seen lots of guys with guns
before, but it was just it was

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just a different a different light,
because I know we've been we've been in

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the past to the future, but
just being this kind of part of time

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was something new and different. And
Yeah, I just really liked it.

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This is a fun time, nice
film. I think I'm more mixed on

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this one than you two so far. One. I just don't think it's

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like the concept is great, and
I saw that thumbnail. I was expecting

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him to see there. It's cool
to have Cap in here because he also

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has an appearance just the ones since
Spider Man, right, Travis, is

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it just that one episode or it's
a multi part okay, Pi? Yeah,

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So it's fun to have that kind
of connectivity between these shows as well.

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I like that element. So yeah, I don't I think that the

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concept is filmed, but I just
feel like the execution of it wasn't quite

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as great. And honestly, I
just I don't like the lower element of

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this. I don't like that this
is now canon to this show. I

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00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,039
don't like that Wolverine was like crushing
Nazis in World War Two, Like,

407
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:52,359
I think we have enough backstory for
the character. I don't think I needed

408
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,759
this, So I didn't really like
that part of it. I had in

409
00:25:56,839 --> 00:26:00,279
my notes for this one that this
this felt like a what if episode as

410
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:03,359
well, and I kind of wish
it was in that way that it could

411
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,720
be not can into it. I
mean, obviously it's uh, it's in

412
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,640
here now, It's here right at
the end, So it doesn't have a

413
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,640
huge, I don't know, a
huge effect on the rest of this show

414
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,680
or anything like that, but it's
still and now was gonna be in the

415
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,200
back of my head, I guess
going into ninety seven and whatnot. So

416
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:21,359
yeah, I'm not quite as hot
as you guys are on it, but

417
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,799
it's still you know, there's some
there's some fun stuff here either way.

418
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,160
Yeah, I'm I think I'm in
the middle, but like higher middle.

419
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,400
I enjoyed. I think I wish
they they just cut out the whole.

420
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,400
This guy's a fucking coward. I'm
gonna shoot on his grave thing, like

421
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,799
just have like see someone see a
poster of Captain America and like, oh

422
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,680
I knew that guy, and get
right into capin Wolverine because I don't have

423
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,279
a problem with the can and stuff. I like it. They've done this

424
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:52,359
in Colm books. I think when
the MCU reboots, they're gonna have Captain

425
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,920
America like whoever the new CAP is. I think they will interact with the

426
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,759
Wolverine. I think they'll have a
wold you could do a fucking World War

427
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:02,440
two movie and have Captain America and
Wolverine. I think they're gonna pull that

428
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,960
trigger. So I like the concept. I've like obviously been sitting with it

429
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:10,480
more for years. I just wish
there was more time than together because they

430
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,440
meet up, it's very official meeting, and then they get captured, so

431
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:17,240
it's like half the episode, maybe
less than half, that they're actually together.

432
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,200
So I kind of just wish from
frame one like, oh, maybe

433
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,480
you know, set up the story, and then frame one they're together and

434
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:26,480
they're kicking butts. So yeah,
I found it's like a good version of

435
00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:29,720
Cap, but it's like I want
a bit more goodie two shoes out of

436
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:30,920
him, and which is a lot
of fighting, but it's it's still a

437
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,279
fun time. Yeah, Like most
of my opinions are kind of what these

438
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:40,079
guys already said. Where Red Skull
comes, it seems pretty he appears,

439
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:45,839
it seems like like we're gonna get
something really cool here. He's just kind

440
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:48,680
of like a measily like any like
he could be Trask or he could be

441
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:56,839
Saber two Sun like like it doesn't
have the impact. So I kind of

442
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,039
wish this was maybe like a two
parter because I know what two parts we

443
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,799
have again, in parts one to
five we had the Failings and Storm Front.

444
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,440
Yeah it was both the Failings and
storm and I would definitely one episode

445
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,599
of Failings and then give me two
part of this because then I think you

446
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:15,039
could give just more depth going on
there. But I still enjoyed it.

447
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:19,039
I enjoyed the interactions we did have, so it's like a fun little bottle

448
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,640
episode again. But again, this
again feels like brend ideas, what have

449
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,240
we not done with Logan's origin?
Well, we can't do anything because we've

450
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,359
touched on every character, We've done
weapon X. Well what if we go

451
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,400
to the pass and I can't.
I think at this point in comics it

452
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,319
was probably established that they I know
they have interacted, but I don't know.

453
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,279
In comics, I think they established
that happens. So I just feel

454
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,480
like they went into a vault,
like, Okay, what from Wolverine's past

455
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,440
have we not touched? Well,
he bumped into Captain America ones and like

456
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:48,279
cool, and yeah, it is
cool, especially because there are so many

457
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:53,920
times where we just see heroes like
in quick flashes and that it. My

458
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,119
pitch for the two part would have
been, is do this part make it

459
00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:00,519
a little bit better, And then
part two you have cap in present day

460
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,799
with Wolverine and you kind of refer
back or that's how you set up the

461
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,799
Oh I knew this guy that Captain
America needs Logan's help for something. He's

462
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:12,240
you know, WEAPONEX is starting again
and a Red skulls back because, as

463
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:18,039
Dylan said, the X Men Inspierman
show have the same timeline and Captain America

464
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,039
is there in present day inspirement,
so he is around at that time.

465
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,720
So that's what I would have preferred. But what I got here was like,

466
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,920
this is good. It worked out
for me passable because I saw a

467
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,079
Cap in the thumbnail. I honestly
I thought that was Cap in the grave

468
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,599
when Logan was just like this son
of a bitch, I hate him so

469
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,480
much, and I'm like, man, what is gonna unfold here in this

470
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,720
flashback episode? This is so interesting
one of Logan's girlfriends did he hook up

471
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:44,400
with? You know? Because I
almost thought that too, because I was

472
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,119
like, this is weird because in
the University of Stash Cap is alive.

473
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,960
I'm like, Okay, maybe they
weren't paying attention. I'm just like especially

474
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,839
because like oh this man, I'm
like, oh, he's just gonna be

475
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:52,960
talking about Cap and then he's like, yeah, this piece of shit.

476
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:56,880
It's like, oh, what have
you see a name too? Like on

477
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,079
the tomb someone like man, they
changed like Steve Rogers's name. This,

478
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,480
this is so weird. I do
rewind rewind because I'm like, that's not

479
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,079
like I don't see Steve Rogers.
Was like, that's not Seve Rodgers anywhere,

480
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,680
and then uh yeah, like you
pointed out your opening. Kirkland just

481
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:14,680
such a random thing that he meets
his daughter again with his daughter, it's

482
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,119
so odd too. And she's like, oh, you have an age to

483
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,640
day. I like myself. He's
like, you're looking pretty good there,

484
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,000
darling. She didn't look like she
did age in my opinion, I know,

485
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:25,400
I thought she was a mutant there. I'm like, what the hell

486
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,079
is They threw a red riding hood
hood on her to be like, oh,

487
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:30,880
she's old now. So it was
so odd, like oh, let's

488
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,519
go get a drain dialand and like
and then one second and especially because it's

489
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,680
her dad, and like you said, Kurklin, so cheesy that he goes

490
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,960
in car and it's not like the
grave was like soldier father wasn't like turncoat

491
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,680
who turned his back on the country. It would be different for some reason

492
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:49,279
if there was some gravestone or tombstone
and just was a lude like this guy

493
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,400
was a trader to America. Yeah, exactly right, but it was all

494
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:57,640
like still good things. The fact
that he didn't even ask his daughter.

495
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,759
Wolvering just took on himself to Hero
and that's all you can think of Hero,

496
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:08,039
just like man Logan's still got some
fucking issue with the smartest guy.

497
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,400
I feel like he was gonna carve
something on there no matter what, Like

498
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,880
you know, if you didn't know
he was a guy, and like,

499
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:18,680
yeah, imagine if he would have
carved like a piece of ship trader and

500
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880
then this daughter get that story that
Uh yeah, I don't know who did

501
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,839
that. Yeah, I think savor
Tooth was around here and he was messing

502
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,359
with this grave. I try to
sop him, but you know, he

503
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,599
got like three slashes, like so
clearly. Yeah, and like I would

504
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:36,839
have just like to saying that you
need to put Hero his daughter. Wud

505
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:41,559
been like why did you just desecrate
my father's tomb? Like so we we're

506
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:48,119
very weird masculine, sexist type of
choice by Wolverine here, But you know,

507
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,720
I found it funny with with the
daughter. I feel like, why

508
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,319
does every like French Woman animation,
I have like a mole on the side

509
00:31:55,319 --> 00:32:00,839
of her happens all the time,
but for what I for a reason like

510
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,680
in this probably because they were just
like wanting to have the frame the opposite

511
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,319
way, Like her mole would move
from her left to the right side of

512
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,359
her face like multiple times. So
I don't know. I guess they just

513
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,200
had to flip flip the frame because
it looks better one way or the other.

514
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:14,839
But you can't do that when you
have a bowle on their face because

515
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:19,799
it throws off that seems like don't
trust before Season five has that kind of

516
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:28,599
thing. Yeah, anything else on
When Red Skull captures Steve Rogers and Logan,

517
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,680
there's this one shot that goes to
Cap like I swear it's three times.

518
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:35,720
It's at least two times, but
definitely I think it's three times where

519
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,079
he like says something it's like I
think you have grad to concerns now Capitan

520
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,519
or what the hell he says,
and it just goes to Cap and like

521
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,480
it's like a close up and he's
just like he's just like shot face.

522
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,880
If you have no idea what I'm
talking about, it's honestly worth to go

523
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,839
back and rewatch it because it is
just such a funny, like they throw

524
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:55,559
it back to that same shot.
Like I think it's when Logan's like trying

525
00:32:55,559 --> 00:33:00,240
to give him the shield, it
goes to him again. He's just like

526
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,960
like he just looks like such a
fucking duf this It's it had me laughing

527
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,880
so hard in those moments, like
it happened frozen. He frozen before he

528
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,599
gets to the big freeze, you
know that moment too. I think I

529
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,880
think it was Wolverine who was like
tied up, like floating there in the

530
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200
sky, right, and he like
has the shield in between his legs,

531
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:22,359
swings to get some momentum, flings
it, ricochets it off a wall,

532
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,599
shatters the rope that I was holding
him up Like that is insane level level

533
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,279
of accuracy with his legs with the
shield in mid air. I was.

534
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,640
I was very impressed by that shot. Strength, thigh everything. Yeah,

535
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,279
there's a reason he was a top
a crew for X Force, right,

536
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,720
you know, like that's that's a
that's a man right there or mute and

537
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,200
uh just fucking doubling up again on
the clause. That's just something that I

538
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,000
find it so funny. It's almost
like they made this story and then they

539
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,960
forgot that, like this is before
he went through the whole WEAPONEX project.

540
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,240
They're like, okay, we got
to explain how he has these claws,

541
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,319
so it's like, let's just do
attachable ones. It's just it's so stupid

542
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:00,599
when you think about it, too, because it's like the super per tragic

543
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960
thing that Logan goes through that like
he never wanted but then you know,

544
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,000
he's just had these knives and he
wished he had the Yeah, one day,

545
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:13,000
I'm gonna great, I'm gonna I'm
gonna carve Hero and theone's gray with

546
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,719
these Yeah, like all X me
Meania does, like comics do that.

547
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,079
It's one of my least things in
Days of Future Pass when Magneto Young Magneto

548
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,440
Faster meets Wolverine and he shows him
his claws and he's like a shame they

549
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,320
weren't covered in metal. They have
no idea what he's gonna go through some

550
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440
fucking metal surgery, but just happens
to be like, imagine if those are

551
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,880
in me, It's like, we
get it. He's gonna get metal clause.

552
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,840
We understand, like he's the most
he's arguably, next to Spider Man,

553
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,559
the most popular character in the Marvel
Universe. You don't need to make

554
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:45,639
cracks or like you just give them
the bone claws, like just says that

555
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,599
to everyone in any context ever,
that what was covered metal go bit too

556
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:55,119
matter if your cards were metal.
Imagine that you stolem what if you could

557
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,920
have nothing for storm? But there
you go. Yeah, you don't want

558
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,519
to. I found with the clause
too, because they the reason they play

559
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:07,159
pulls Hi mount and he gives cap
pairs like climb this mountain. But like

560
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:08,599
the logistics are weird. Dude,
think that they put them on to like

561
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:12,519
stab them into the wall and climb
up that way you do. But they

562
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:15,480
weren't they I don't understand how it
was supposed to help them climb the wall,

563
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:20,800
putting it just against it ever so
slightly so I guess you're stabbing into

564
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,400
it and then you're using your entire
left side your body just to hang on

565
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:25,920
for dear life, and then you
have to like and then jump and do

566
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,519
it again. But yeah, they
weren't stabbing it in. They weren't stabbing

567
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,320
it. Literally, it's like these
just going like this like Spider Man,

568
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,480
Yeah exactly. That's where it's like, well, how is this works?

569
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,000
I guess it's digging in. I
don't know, but yeah, usually you

570
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:43,519
need two claws. But yeah,
well they're supposed to be uh like this,

571
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:47,039
I think right, like climbing clause, which they were not. I

572
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:51,280
mean they were more like these things, but that's not helping you climb anything.

573
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:59,920
Is that the Jedi that's Taylor's home. I don't know why, because

574
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:04,360
Logan he gets upgrades, he gets
Yeah, that's gonna be in a what

575
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,559
if episode? Just here, imagine
that Wolverine clause but little lightsabers that just

576
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:21,039
go like you ready, Oh,
I'm telling you man, I can't wait

577
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,960
in ten years when both Marvel and
DC are just fucked and nothing hints.

578
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,360
It's like, well we're gonna have
to cross over. Yeah, and then

579
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,920
when we do get stuff like Wolverine, Lightsaber Claus and those WEF episodes,

580
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,239
it's coming one day. One day, they're gonna get desperate and like,

581
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:37,360
what can we do to revitalize this? You know? I mean X Men's

582
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,119
already under Disney, right, so
they could do it. Don't stopping them?

583
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,320
They do, they could they just
have both Faii and Kathleen, Like,

584
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,519
no, we have no interest in
going that route, you know,

585
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:51,800
because I think even some person asked, like what just even like an anime

586
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,440
movie, which I just don't even
understand. Yeah, why would you just

587
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,840
do a fucking animated movie just that
this is nothing canon, It's just gonna

588
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,840
be a long wef episode. No, No, we don't want to do

589
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,480
that. It's just like these are
dummies, dummies just make cash in make

590
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,119
the money, you know, or
Lego like matching a Lego game, Marvel

591
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:12,320
and Star Wars together, like come
on now right, sick yep. A

592
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,760
couple other things. One I really
like at some point Cap and Wolverine like

593
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,480
jump into a hate cart and use
that to escape, and I swear it's

594
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,440
the exact same hay cart from Jubilees
fairy Tale. So I like that they're,

595
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:25,840
you know, if they're really scrapped
for cash in this last season,

596
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,880
they're like, oh, we got
to reuse some of our art pages they

597
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,960
go through, They're like, oh, hate cart, let's grab that and

598
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:36,320
drop it in here. Another thing
that really made me laugh is when that

599
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,719
kid, the kid is somewhere in
France gets caught for stealing bread and then

600
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,920
you know, a Cap Woll,
We're gonna forget what has saved the day.

601
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,679
And the kid like gets his loaf
of bread or he's trying to run

602
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,159
away at first, and he just
biffs it on a garbage can and I

603
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,760
just like died laughing at the animation
of that. I just it was so

604
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,440
unnecessary, but it really added added
to the moment. He's a loyal uh

605
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:02,320
frenchy too. He's like Viva lerizauce
that resist the front, just going off

606
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:06,719
look and drawing more attention to himself. That kid's not gonna last hay stack

607
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:12,440
nearby. Yeah, yeah, that's
all for me. I think that's all

608
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:19,400
for me. Last thing I think
of just when the two Germans were just

609
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,519
freaking out popping off and Logan's on
the on the roof and then the bird

610
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:28,840
flies by whatever it was. I
didn't understand, Like they're point too,

611
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,960
because it's like if someone's up there, you better, you better come out,

612
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,960
we're gonna start shooting. It's like
he's like around the corner on the

613
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:37,599
roof, what are you gonna do, like go upstairs and like try and

614
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:38,480
find a waiting on the roof.
It just didn't make sense. And then

615
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,079
they see a pigeon, like,
oh, what if it's an American spy.

616
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:47,519
Oh very weird, very weird moment, but exactly how the war went

617
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,159
if you look at your counts.
So they got fooled by a lot of

618
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:58,840
birds. The thumbs up for me, thumb up, that's definitely a thumber

619
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:05,079
for me. I'm gonna go something
and a half. WHOA for the animation.

620
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:13,760
That's why Yeah. Hidden Agendas Episode
eight, Sam Grithri's parents Gut three

621
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:17,480
kinda still stick with Sam. Sam
parents have contacted Professor Xavier, but their

622
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:21,719
son's mutant power see tear back to
the school. They're getting new students now,

623
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,960
so that's why I thought those kids
the field trip, you know.

624
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:28,920
But Roe goes back to the self
to check things out and find Sam living

625
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,840
the life she never had. Family
and friends support the young cannibal, but

626
00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:37,400
Rogue must teach him how to how
the rest of the world lives with the

627
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,679
shadowy Army officials attempt to use or
sorry, are attempting to use the youthful

628
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:50,400
mutant. I didn't care for this
episode. I I unfortunately, I feel

629
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,119
like when Rogue gets spin off stuff, it's either a banger with like Nightcrawler

630
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,840
her reveal, like the Mystique stuff
for how we get the Captain Marble stuff,

631
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:02,599
or it's like her boyfriend that turns
into an alien, or it's like

632
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,599
there's like another one that happened last
season I can't remember, and this shitre's

633
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,760
just like when it's just rogue centric
stuff, sometimes it can just go really

634
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,920
poor. And I just did not
care for this. I got enjoyment at

635
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,119
this purely from like it's so bad
it's good. That's where I got the

636
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:21,079
names of the music geek from.
But like the idea of like these mute

637
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:27,039
bullies or these bullies sorry, bullying
the mute in it's like weird subplot of

638
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,480
they think he's like getting it on
one of their girls and just like see

639
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:32,800
she's a two timer with that beauty
freak, and just like it was just

640
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,800
again went to random episodes. At
least with all these other episodes so far,

641
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,000
I could see, like, okay, a fairy tale episode Captain America

642
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:45,760
and Wolverine h even for some reason
since the it's like, okay, he's

643
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,119
been a villain, maybe you just
want to die in that backstory. This

644
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,039
just felt very odd, and just
especially with Cannibal, like he's a fine

645
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:58,480
mute but just I don't know,
it's it was all of a miss for

646
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,920
me. I got a couple of
notes, but not much to say about

647
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,039
this one because the whole time I
was like, this is one I don't

648
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:07,480
remember, and I now remember why, so I'll follow up on you because

649
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:12,800
I completely agree. This was a
total dud for me. It just it

650
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,519
felt like retreading ground we've treaded a
million times. My first note here was

651
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:20,840
just this is a classic racism episode, and that's that's exactly what it was.

652
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,679
There was really no nuance to it. We have We've had so much

653
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:27,360
of that in this show. That's
obviously what a lot of the mutant stuff

654
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,400
that they go for here, but
this one just didn't really have any nuance

655
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,119
to it, and it was just
like classic, like so Southern American,

656
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,239
you know, racism sort of situation. It was pretty uninteresting stuff. And

657
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:45,400
I didn't really care much for Cannonball
here. Mister Sam gotthree not not a

658
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,079
character I was too pleased to see
here. He's kind of just a bit

659
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:52,400
boring. So yeah, I really
just once again, I always look at

660
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,000
my notes and that's always my indicator
of how interesting an episode was. And

661
00:41:54,039 --> 00:42:00,519
there's not much too to discuss on
this one, So definitely a big dud.

662
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:04,719
Give that ball rolling. Yeah,
this is a super dud for me.

663
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,840
I uh, super dad. This
was just really not interesting. Honestly,

664
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,039
I feel like, right at the
hop, I was just shocked by

665
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:17,400
the animation change on Rogue. We
slightly see her earlier on in this season,

666
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,400
but I think she's like in the
back, like she doesn't even see

667
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,039
anything, so I didn't really get
like a clear look. Right at the

668
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,400
hop, I'm like, did they
change her hair? Did they change like

669
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,280
everything about this character? She seems
so strange. Seemed like even her jacket

670
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,960
was like a different color or something, like they like most characters look pretty

671
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,280
much the same, but like for
her, she just looks so different,

672
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,400
which I mean like she had the
same voice, so I definitely could hear

673
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,840
the Rogue that I've grown to love
and know, but uh yeah, just

674
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,519
I think even just her, even
her dialogue, it just seemed although like

675
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:50,320
the voice was the same, it
just seemed like a different type of character

676
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,079
that like I've really been enjoying throughout
these whole seasons, so big light down

677
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:59,800
there, and yeah, it didn't
seem like anything new and not even like

678
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,079
a a good telling of something that
I've already seen before. It just seemed

679
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:07,440
like a lesser version of a previous
episode that I had already seen. Like

680
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,360
there's been especially even for Roke.
I feel like there's been I don't know

681
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,440
what season it was, but like
another instance where she goes and like talks

682
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,199
to like a like a new mutant
type character, and it just seemed like

683
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:20,760
a like a B tier version of
that episode that I'd already seen. There's

684
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,360
a couple of funny moments of just
like funny things going on, not for

685
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,519
like a good story, just ridiculous. But overall, this is definitely one

686
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:36,400
I think I'm gonna forget very soon. I liked the back to our roots

687
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,440
kind of vibe that this episode had. I liked it was it was simple,

688
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,800
and yeah, it was just it
was a good time. I liked

689
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,639
how outrageous it was when the guy
through some shade at our came our our

690
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:53,599
boy in questions name, but Sam
got so fucking pissed and he just like

691
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,320
one hundred and twenty speed just goes
down the freeway to this guy's truck almost

692
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,119
kills him, like makes the truck
go into a garbage can and all that

693
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:06,480
shit's the thing though, that I
feel like was the most off putting for

694
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,639
me was I think this is when
I first noticed Gambit's voice actor changed and

695
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:15,639
I did not like it. Yeah, there's definitely either change or the actor's

696
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:19,760
voice something happened. But yeah,
it was definitely change because he does not

697
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,440
sound the exact same. And I
would prep everybody as well, because the

698
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,760
vin in ninety seven a lot of
them have changed. Some have come back,

699
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,039
but not everybody, So get ready
to maybe adjust your brain a little

700
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:34,159
bit. I thought it was like
an entire recast. I know Wolverine's back.

701
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:38,239
I think Rogue is back. I
think there's a couple, so that's

702
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,000
I mean, I think it's kind
of a mix, right, Yeah,

703
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,559
I know Jubileeze got a new voice. Yeah damn yeah so that yeah,

704
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,920
just I didn't like that. Didn't
like the voice change. I missed.

705
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:58,119
It's not it's I miss the other
one. But overall, like I said,

706
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,719
yeah, it was a good episode. I don't know why I don't

707
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:08,960
like the new voice. I had
a question, so, Bait, this

708
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,519
is because of that reading that Wikipedia
synopsis of this, So what was Rogu's

709
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:19,599
connection to these people? Was there
a backstory of how she knew it was

710
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:22,440
just because they were just they were
Southerners, and she's like they can't they

711
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,679
can't resist a Southern girl, or
however she says it, well, not

712
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,519
like that, but she very weird
though. It's like a sixteen year old

713
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:34,039
boy like yeah, like like that's
literally how it sounded the way that she

714
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:37,800
described it. And then Gambit Gambit
said something like Gambit says, and then

715
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,920
you know classic whatever, Roach like, oh, yeah, the old guy,

716
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,800
you know what I mean, they
go on vacation. Yeah, it

717
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,199
was on vacation from you. I
think that's actually pretty much what it was.

718
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,119
It was just strange because like I've
I've had great dialogue between those two

719
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:58,679
and this was just like not even
bt. It just seemed like so bottom

720
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,360
barrel, like z rate. It's
like, guys, we've done this better

721
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,440
before, Like why are we doing
a worse version of that? But on

722
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:14,119
a me, that was that was. Yeah, that was confusing to me

723
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:16,760
because especially what you were saying earlier, Travis of No One in the like,

724
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,440
it's not a known fact that Charles
Xavier is a Newton, right,

725
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,840
and it's like this established thing.
So I was very surprised that going back

726
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,519
to this episode, like so Rogue
is famous or like these random mass people

727
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:35,039
who wouldn't really be up to date
on like news know who Rogue is,

728
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,559
but people don't know who Charles Xavier
is. So I don't know. That's

729
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,480
where I was like, well,
maybe it does make sense if there is

730
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,519
some connection with her to these actual
people, but she grew up nearby or

731
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:47,239
something like that, because uh,
that all was very confusing to me.

732
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:51,239
I think it's like Taylor just said
there was a Southern connection, and it

733
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,000
was just Okay, this is what
my life could have been. Even though

734
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:57,679
I don't like that because he is
still bullied, he is still going through

735
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,719
a tough time, you know that
loser in the unish your shirt kicks kicks

736
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,320
his ass, you know which,
Again I kind of like that it's a

737
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,639
good it's a happy accident, but
I like that it's a parallel to today's

738
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,599
universe for people. All He's argued
like the worst people adopt the Punisher logo,

739
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:13,480
and I thought this was like a
good sign up of that. Like

740
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:16,320
of course the mutant, you know, Bully is like that's the guy who's

741
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,199
wearing the punish logs, Like,
yeah, Frank would hate this guy Sam

742
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,880
like whatever, screw so and maybe
a happy accent there, but yeah,

743
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,239
it's a very I would I liked
it more if it's kind of like again,

744
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,880
they were stressing, especially with ninety
seven coming up in there being a

745
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:37,000
whole team like hopefully some graduates or
something like that. If the season was

746
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,440
okay, Xavier's getting Jubie to watch
his kids because he wants her to grow

747
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:43,079
rogue, No, you're gonna go
out there and start recruiting people because you

748
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,719
got to step up. But it
wasn't that. I just kind of felt

749
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,599
like she heard about it, fell
back into it, and yeah, I

750
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:51,599
don't know what Xaviers will get into
Xavier about this mute thing. But uh,

751
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:53,760
I guess the X Men are famous
because I guess Exavier stays back to

752
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,159
the mansion and they go out and
kick ass, right, so mm hmm,

753
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,639
I guess that's why. I guess
that makes sense. And speaking of

754
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:05,400
that, like the I think the
entire squad was sent out to deal with

755
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,159
these bad guys here. I just
felt like that was maybe a bit of

756
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:12,559
an overreaction considering we've seen much stronger
villains only get like two or three X

757
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,079
Men sent out to dispatch them,
but in this case, they're like,

758
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,440
no, we gotta get the whole
squad out there. The other thing I

759
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,239
found funny in this episode was like
the bullies were beating up cannon Ball and

760
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,800
they're like this muting's not much of
a physical specimen, but he's like fucking

761
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,280
jacked. I'm like, I don't
know what you're talking about here. He's

762
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:31,840
he's ripped to the nines and he
I mean, I guess they haven't really

763
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,480
seen his power. Well maybe they
hadn't explicitly seen his power at that point,

764
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:38,000
but I just felt like, man, these I guess they're established to

765
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,559
be stupid characters, so it makes
sense. But they do beat him up

766
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:44,800
the one time, Like one time, he's just on the ground like like

767
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,679
writhing in pain, so they do
like it's true, but I do feel

768
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:52,440
like he still is ripped as like
most characters are in these animated shows.

769
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,639
But yeah, I guess he's just
not mentally tough, you know, or

770
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:58,519
he doesn't have the skill he did
say physically, but I don't know.

771
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:01,800
Yeah, it's like that video that's
going around this week with like the superjack

772
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,000
dude from the gym and then a
guy who's like just toned, and he

773
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,360
beats him in the arm wrestling thing. You know, it's like that situation

774
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,760
where they think Sam's just like the
Jack guy, but he's weak technique wrestling.

775
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,679
Do you guys have the numbers Cannibal's
power. No. I just think

776
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:21,880
it looks really weird and uninteresting.
I've never cared what is it like?

777
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,920
He just flies, It's essentially like
Iron Man's Like it looks like Iron Man's

778
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,639
flying, but just like his lower
half. It just feels like we've seen

779
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:36,599
so many fires characters like Human torch
or or I think his name is Pyro,

780
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,079
and then there's like Starfire and all
these different people, and it feels

781
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:42,320
like at some point they just run
of ideas, so they're like, okay,

782
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,760
let's slightly change up how his fire
works compared to others. So his

783
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,920
official abilities are jet propulsion and creation
of protective blast field while in flight.

784
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,719
What a lame fucking mutant you know? Sorry? Read that second one again.

785
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:02,119
Creation of a protective blast field while
in flight. Blast field was also

786
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:07,719
in quotation marks. I means that
like Jubileese right, just sparkles. That's

787
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:15,480
confusing. I take jubilees I'm wondering
if you look up like like at least

788
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,000
like I could make those powers rock
with a look you know. Yeah,

789
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:22,360
I'm just trying to think that second
power. I'm trying to think if that's

790
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,159
just like how how Wolverine like can't
have his claws without the healing or else

791
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,000
he would just like deal damage himself. So I'm wonder if that's what that

792
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:32,360
second line means, Like he can
just protect himself protect when he's flying.

793
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:36,280
Yeah that fast, because like he
can only do that part when he's in

794
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,199
flight, So he can only do
the protective barrier when he's flying that he's

795
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:44,199
on the ground not blasted off.
He would just up. Yeah, if

796
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,880
he hits a bird midflight, like
that would do damage. You gotta have

797
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,480
that barrier. Oh yeah, an
airplane engine just like murders thousands of people,

798
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:58,679
takes out every plane on his flight
path. I kind of forgot Taylor.

799
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,280
You you and I review? Were
you in the New Munes review?

800
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,800
Right? I was? I guess
No, I don't think so I was

801
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,719
not. Yeah, Charlie Heaton,
who's in Stranger Things, that guy who

802
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,480
plays like Mike's Brothers, So he
played Cannonball and Nubians. So there you

803
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:15,920
go. I completely forgot that as
I'm seeing it there. Why did I

804
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,199
see that if it wasn't on the
Rezeo, I don't know. He probably

805
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:22,079
felt left out and you want to
be a part. I don't know.

806
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,000
No, you mightn't remember being forced
to watch. I didn't like it.

807
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:27,599
I know you and me went to
the West Side Travis to go see it.

808
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,079
Yeah, you weren't there, so
I just feel like you would.

809
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:32,079
You probably watched it for Anya Taylor
Joy, Let's be real. Yeah,

810
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:37,360
maybe that's why I watch half the
movies I watched. Apparently made it into

811
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,239
the Avengers too, So there you
go. I think he's coming to Marvel's

812
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,480
Snap like next month, so he's
literally having a run here. Get the

813
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:49,559
man back at you. If they
say which powers would you pick? Would

814
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:52,079
you pick the fucking you're flying around? Or Julie is probably flying? Probably

815
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:55,199
flying? It's really like is it
flying? I guess it's flying, But

816
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,480
it's like you could fly with people
too, right, Like they would get

817
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,239
the barrier you just like carry them. Well, I would take someone I

818
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,440
don't like so much just to test
it and see how that would be the

819
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,280
worst. Like it's Spiderman thing like, yeah, let's fly together and you

820
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,920
blast off and you just fucking burn
the neck or something. Well yeah,

821
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,360
jeft propoulish in Yeah, like you
just fucking incinerate them. Right. We

822
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:22,800
have the barrier though, right,
so like everything would be protected for you

823
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:31,199
just around definitely not just grabbing her
takes. Rogue could inherit that ability,

824
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,760
but then she can also just fly
on her own, so it's not very

825
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:40,440
useful. What are you picking,
Dylan. I've never really understood Jubilees powers

826
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,239
because we had that one episode where
she just erased graffiti with it. So

827
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,119
I feel like there's more to her
powers that we don't really know about.

828
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,440
I feel like, why can't she
like blast it underneath her, like float

829
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,920
herself up in the air and fly
on her own because and she went on

830
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:55,159
more with Apocalypse at one point.
Is Cannonball gonna went on Apocalypse? I

831
00:52:55,159 --> 00:53:02,199
don't know. He's the guy that's
possessed by Apocalypse dirt Off thousand per Yeah,

832
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,239
Cannonballs horse, Yeah, I gets
asking my cable. I think by

833
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,159
default, like flying, that's always
been like my go to. I want

834
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:14,519
to be able to fly or like
telekinesis, so I mean, I'd probably

835
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:16,719
go with this, even if it's
the weird propulsion version. Yeah, yeah,

836
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:22,880
I know for a fact you're picking
Cannibal. No, honestly, you're

837
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,760
such a Jubilee hater. Now look
at this crying at her episode. You

838
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:36,239
want her powerubes, No, this
is the grand scheme of things. I

839
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,920
feel like those powers would be much
more beneficial, Like I like Gambis powers.

840
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,000
I feel like that's not a question
though, similar to Gambits powers,

841
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,400
but just she doesn't need me.
She can just shoot them out of her

842
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,679
hands. You can use them in
the bedroom. It becomes a very sexual

843
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:59,079
thing. Stimulate simular simulation, stimulation
not simulation. Yeah, these are on

844
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:04,599
fireworks going me, these are caught, Like really, I just wanted to

845
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:08,199
see what her actual name was,
so her her last name is Lee.

846
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:13,039
I only know that because in that
episition, students were like missus Lee,

847
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,199
missus Lee, and I just thought
that was a thing, like, oh,

848
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,199
they're just short. But yeah,
her name is Jubilation Kirkland. I

849
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,199
also forgot about that until until they
said that if I could, if you

850
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:27,679
guys could take any of the X
men that we see in this show's powers,

851
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,920
I would take probably a storm,
I think because once again I can

852
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,800
fly, and then I can do
a bunch of rather cool ship. I

853
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,920
can call the winds over the eternity
upon my enemies. The idea voice for

854
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:44,360
it too. Yeah, you gotta
have the voice I think I got as

855
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,679
as long as it's like later seasons
Gene Gray, that's what I'm going with,

856
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:52,000
or if Exavier's powers don't get him
in a wheelchair. But I'm I

857
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,199
want the mind control of mind reading. I think that's a goat to your

858
00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:01,719
power and everything. So yeah,
and I would know every he's a villain,

859
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:07,000
bring on the fucking phoenix. Okay, dyal like this way because everyone

860
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:09,559
jumps to the villain thing. Yeah, but like what I would go.

861
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,400
I would go into where I work
right now and just go to my boss

862
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,159
and say, you're gonna pay me
what I make weekly for the rest of

863
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:21,280
my life. But you're still gonna
go to work and you got those super

864
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,400
power No, no, no,
Taylor, No, look I got frozen

865
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,079
by the Talgons. Okay, no, I'm gonna go there at the first

866
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:31,119
Let's say, Okay, I wake
up, I have I like, oh,

867
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:35,079
like that face I just made.
I'm now okay, I got exavior's

868
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:37,840
power. It's like cool, whatever, I'm gonna go in for my first

869
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,360
day. I'm gonna go to my
boss and I'm gonna use the you know,

870
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,519
the thing that the two finger point
of doom, and I'm gonna say,

871
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:47,559
hey, you're gonna pay me what
I make for my job for the

872
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:50,719
rest of my life. But I
don't have to work a single day.

873
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,599
And yes, Travis, that's the
type of stuff I do. I'd make

874
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:54,840
it so I don't have to work
at things don't work at like the worst

875
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,079
place though, because I feel like
in the healthcare feeling, that's just kind

876
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,159
of mean, like why don't you
go do that at like tax dollar something

877
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,239
like someone will get my position,
they'll fill it everything. It's just that

878
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,360
I'm on Southad And just by the
fact though you're still taking tax dollars,

879
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,719
you take a taxi, can you
take like can you go to like work

880
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,960
on Amazon or something? And then
and then sure, okay, I'll call

881
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,920
it off group meeting. We'll do. It'll be the greatest after nine ever,

882
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,840
it'll be Travis Scott superpowers. What
do we do? Okay? And

883
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,760
then we have you on the Patriots. You guys give me ideas we delete

884
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,199
the episode forever. Yeah, sure, I'll go to Jeff Bezos. I'll

885
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,599
do that. I'll go to fucking
crime lords with blood money and like that's

886
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:36,360
where I would get the money.
I wouldn't be like now you are controlling

887
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,679
you. I'm not gonna be fucking
kill Grady from Netflix. Like I would

888
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,039
take money from people that you know. And so that's a good example into

889
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:44,599
your health. Yeah, I probably
need it. So, yeah, Jeff

890
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,400
Bezos build, I think I could
get paid a lot of money for being

891
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:53,960
storm though and having storms powers.
Wow. He disagrees so much that he

892
00:56:54,119 --> 00:57:00,800
just you make it rain and in
certain areas of drought, if there's like

893
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,239
a hurricane coming through, I can
go stop that. I can save the

894
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,639
day. I'll put a ransom out
there and give me two million. I'll

895
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,800
remove this hurricane. Here's the thing, as we saw Xavier five seasons,

896
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:15,079
no one knew he was immune.
You if you get the like Victor Creed's

897
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,920
or what or not? What's his
son's name? Was it, Jibediah Creed?

898
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,920
What the hell is? Probably?
Yeah? Whatever? No, Dad,

899
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:25,199
like that guy, you're gonna get
Oh, I don't like that stormfucker.

900
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:30,480
He controls on a No, it's
me that voice of like Krick and

901
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:37,440
said, they're gonna oh that's for
his podcast, famous for this, but

902
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:40,639
yeah, that's my always my power
Telconesis mind reading. Why don't you say

903
00:57:40,639 --> 00:57:43,440
you trust me? I feel like
I give any good case for the good

904
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,920
things I would eventually do. I
wouldn't trust you in my mind. I'd

905
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:52,880
wake up be like, where the
am I? What? Am I button

906
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,000
naked? I lost the call duty
again. I wouldn't need your skills?

907
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,599
No, what was I gonna say? Just no? Anytime he tried to

908
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:05,280
lie nowadays like oh yeah, I
watched that trail and I just like this

909
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:07,840
calm ot you know, But he's
like, oh yeah, I'll be there

910
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:13,400
finally settle the debates on who ask
for the thumbnail, who didn't do the

911
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,440
thumbnail when they were asked? And
that's what he doesn't want, because I

912
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,000
could I could be like, friends, look at this vision, and then

913
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:22,519
you can go with Magneto's power.
I'm getting fucking helmet on. Yeah,

914
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:30,639
every cat sorry, And it's the
one too where it's like you can just

915
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:34,840
see his eyes pretty much. It's
just like it's just like showers and Taylor's

916
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,920
eyes. Just yeah, I love
Moonnight season two. So I mean,

917
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,880
we know the trailer was all right, we should probably get back on track

918
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,679
at some point, but we gotta
know who Kirk Taylor, you picked Jubilee

919
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:49,800
and then you picked Gambit, Like, is that your final answer? If

920
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,159
you have the whole team to choose
from, if I have the whole team

921
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:58,320
of shoes from, is it just
like main X Men Rosters, there's a

922
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,960
moarf guy he wants to play,
I'd probably I'd probably go Beast. I'd

923
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,519
love to just that's actually not surprising, but it's not. But like you

924
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:13,559
want to just look like a blue, hairy animal because he's not smart because

925
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,760
his powers. He's smart because he
went to school and everything. Smart already

926
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,000
very smart though in my opinion,
thank you. I just love being like

927
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,519
being the blue and just being the
Beast. I don't know where you are,

928
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,599
yeah, I was gonna say,
I don't know where you are in

929
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:30,760
the rankings of cryptid podcasts. But
if you look like Beast, you would

930
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:37,920
instantly shoot the autograph signings. You
could do the live streams like speak only

931
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,840
in riddles like Beast. In the
last couple of seasons here only quote quote

932
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:49,760
I quote podcast, I can just
quote steal their content for the main roster,

933
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:53,960
So morphs in that kind of I
feel like morphed Absolutely, that's okay,

934
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,159
Taylor. In my opinion, that's
what I was gonna say. Do

935
00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:01,920
you think there's something wrong with me
picking Magneto Kirkland thinking thinking of picking more

936
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:07,239
sorry Xavier, him thinking about picking
morph that's even more sust than mine.

937
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,360
He's gonna turn to Madison and just
fuck you right up. Oh my god,

938
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,000
don't say that. Okay, Okay, not moreph than not more.

939
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,280
He's going to turn into someone else
you're scared of, Taylor and just like

940
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:24,760
haunt you for a little bit,
just turning to Madison. Kate, Taylor

941
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:30,280
me. I would love to see
I would love to see a podcast though

942
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,000
of Kirkland, just like Morphine into
us to like have a full conversation.

943
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:38,000
Yeah, the patrons do, like
I guess who it is? Like we

944
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:40,719
put two Dyllan's on there and say
which is the real one. Oh,

945
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,360
that would be good. That could
be fun. That's definitely tricksy for the

946
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,559
content. For the content, Yeah, without being called just a pervy guy,

947
01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:52,360
I guess I could go moreph.
Yeah, he's for sure logan would

948
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:59,280
be a good one. You know. That's the thing immortality that I have

949
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,119
to go through, like the whole
X twenty three process. Absolutely, you

950
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:07,559
gotta lose silver Fox. You gotta
every time you see saber Tooth, you

951
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:14,599
motherfucker like you just kidding and you
Kio or whoever is you gotta lose Interests

952
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:20,800
cap or wherever that guy's You gotta
lose all these Shade graveyards every year too,

953
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,840
to just fucking be mad. That's
Shade has to marry this guy and

954
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,400
continually pick him over you for the
rest of your life. You know that's

955
01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:30,480
you have a very strong sense of
smell as well, so that's another bonus

956
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:34,719
on that one. But you're in
You're you're almost immoral. You'll live for

957
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,199
thousands of years. That's where it's
like Wolverine's past. I love Wolverine,

958
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:40,000
but I've never want like I don't
want metal Clause. The healing thing is

959
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:44,119
cool, but like the immortality,
that's like a pro and con because it's

960
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:45,679
like there is proSP but it's like
do you want to see her own die?

961
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,800
Like I think I think it starts
good, but in the the first

962
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,119
thousand years could be good. But
the last thousand years I think are really

963
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:55,679
tough on you. I think it's
not good. It's certainly very haunting power

964
01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:59,719
too, because I feel like even
if you like get a family or whatever,

965
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,719
you just have like a night tear
and your cross your claws just like

966
01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:07,519
come out and you could just fucking
stab someone. Yeah, just sleep in

967
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:14,320
a straight yeah, yeah decision.
I feel like if I had the whole

968
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,639
roster, because I was doing some
digging, I feel like I would definitely

969
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:19,440
take Domino's power, Like that is
just the ultimate one to have, just

970
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,199
like because like it's explained, not
just that she's luck right, like she

971
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:27,400
can actually alter like the probability field
like around and depends where you're looking.

972
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,920
But sure you can go with that. That's pretty op in my opinion,

973
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,559
I'd pick, if you have the
whole field, that pick Omega Red.

974
01:02:31,719 --> 01:02:37,639
No, I'm joking. Is he
still in that submarine? He is?

975
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:39,239
Maybe? I hope we see him
in nineties. I can't wait for our

976
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,280
Predictions episode, so we better get
him. Nice opening of ninety seven.

977
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:50,280
It's just him. I think our
team of Professor X, beast Storm and

978
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,320
uh more more and more, like
I think that's I think that's a pretty

979
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,400
solid team. I think we could
get some crime fighting downe that is,

980
01:02:58,519 --> 01:03:01,079
you're the only one woman though,
I'm just the invisible man from fucking uh,

981
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:06,639
what's it called the Boys whatever his
character's name, just like terrible reputations

982
01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:13,360
installs. Yeah, that's what happened. We'd be going good and someone And

983
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,760
then what we can do, though, is we can fire Kirkland and then

984
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,559
bring him back back looks back on
the podcast, but it's just still it's

985
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:24,119
still Kirkling. They get lazy and
like, oh yeah, we have kirk

986
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,400
too. You could just like be
Marbot Robbie for an episode and then be

987
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:31,880
like, damn like Margot rob wall
Street. No, that's when we get

988
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,400
canceled though, when all the slummaries
get together and be like, we didn't

989
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,039
do any of these interviews, you
know, but he actually lower the whole

990
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:45,880
of the world. Yeah, he
would actually be unstoppable because I was on

991
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:52,199
the shutter down Charles and the other
right with the GEK first movies, Kirkland

992
01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:54,519
can become any actor, actress,
dead or living, so we could get

993
01:03:54,559 --> 01:04:00,400
fucking who's dead. We could really
want I don't know. Chris Farley,

994
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,239
Chris Farley's back in the next week
for a movie you know you want to

995
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:09,440
see. You want to see another
Hea Fledger Joker performance. Kirk Pats can

996
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,880
bring it to you. You know
that the strikes would happen though because of

997
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,639
all this like AI stuff. They're
like, oh, we can't. They

998
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:18,400
would just be scared of Kirklan out
there. Oh yeah, I meant to

999
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:25,000
mention this like ten minutes ago,
but at some point just Google Jubilee and

1000
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:29,400
click on her Wikipedia page, not
Marvel Wikipedia Wikipedia. The photo they have

1001
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,039
of her is crazy, and it's
also one of those classic photos where it's

1002
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:38,960
just like where all are her organs, like the like the way she spent

1003
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:42,440
over. Of course she's like in
this crop tap where she's sewing off her

1004
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,960
belly button that's not really there.
I just gotta laugh when I had to

1005
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,079
get her full name. A very
weird picture, right, Like, this

1006
01:04:47,159 --> 01:04:51,400
is the Jubilee photo. Did Jubilee
It's a Jubilee Biblical Wikipedia. Yeah,

1007
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:59,840
gotta search you please search it jubilationally
actually, yeah, or Jubilee Marvel Comics.

1008
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:08,880
Anything else to say on the Cannonball
episode, I think we covered it.

1009
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:13,599
Yeah, that's how good this episode
was it may talk about other things.

1010
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:15,440
Oh so two things. Actually,
let's do this live on cast.

1011
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,719
Uh, there was. They dropped
the mister Kirkland reference here, so you

1012
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:23,519
got that. Was it Kirkland or
Kirklin? They well, it was,

1013
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,559
but they said it like Kirkland they
did. Right, that's my question.

1014
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,559
You're like, the only actual Kirkland. I feel like everything always Kirkland,

1015
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:34,440
the original. So I want to
ask you guys this question because they said

1016
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,920
that, oh, that's rogue immune
from several flashpoint situations now in my life.

1017
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,480
Of course, they know Flashpoint of
the DC comics, the whole thing.

1018
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,079
What does flashpoint mean if it's just
a regular thing, because I don't

1019
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:49,440
think I've heard that term used regularly
in the real world. Is it don't?

1020
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,719
Look, I've just watched Spider Man
No Way Home? Is Is that

1021
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:58,400
not the name of Flash's book in
that movie? Yeah? Flashpoint there's a

1022
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,960
book. Yeah, So is that
not? Is that? Is it not

1023
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:02,360
just like a greater Marvel thing that's
referenced. I know it's a deazy thing,

1024
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,719
but is it also like a Marvel
thing in general? But what does

1025
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,320
it mean? Just big events?
Because when they're like, that's from several

1026
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,360
flash points. Now you can look
it up, Kirkling, you know what

1027
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,639
a flashpoint is non comic book.
I've just looked it up. You look

1028
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:20,639
at that beast classic beast move.
What does it mean? What does a

1029
01:06:20,679 --> 01:06:24,599
flashpoint? If I say, hey, this is hair from Gefer's podcast,

1030
01:06:24,679 --> 01:06:30,679
He's been through several flashpoint situations,
it's the lowest temperature which a liquid will

1031
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:35,679
form. A vapor in the air
is actually a place, event or time

1032
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,159
at which troubles such as violence or
anger flares up. The flashpoint of the

1033
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:44,239
conflagration. That's a word is just
blocks away every word. No, I

1034
01:06:44,239 --> 01:06:48,039
think tat this is right because a
storm rokes the chemistry, because storms around

1035
01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:51,599
rose a lot around a lot of
cold situations. But okay, so just

1036
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:57,119
like the situation of violence and go
some I figured, but I just never

1037
01:06:57,119 --> 01:06:59,519
heard that in real life. So
there you go. Uh. And then

1038
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:01,400
the last note I have on this
is gambit. At one point I can

1039
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,599
remember who says it to, but
he's talking and he's like, I'm not

1040
01:07:04,679 --> 01:07:09,360
really a Joiner type. He says
this after being with the X Men for

1041
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,679
four years, and even then,
like before the X Men, he was

1042
01:07:12,719 --> 01:07:15,039
with the Guild of thieves, Like
he's never alone. This dude. He

1043
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:18,360
went from one group to another,
so I get that he's like the bad

1044
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,079
boy rebel of the group, but
like he's still part of the group.

1045
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:26,000
He's still sleeping under the school.
He's still fucking arguing with Jean Gray about

1046
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,320
cookie like no, my potatoes.
Like he's he's a joiner, like he's

1047
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,679
mona. Yeah. I feel like
he never really wants to admit that he

1048
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,920
is. But you know, he
could be a miss without his X Men.

1049
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:40,639
Nah. To me, he's like
you remember in Saltburn at the beginning

1050
01:07:40,679 --> 01:07:44,159
where Berykyon leaves the housag dragon guy
and like, oh, such a friend,

1051
01:07:44,159 --> 01:07:46,440
mate, He's oh no, not
really, Like that's Gamut where he's

1052
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,000
like, yeah, I'm not really
a joiner, but like, no,

1053
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:50,239
that was your friend, Like you're
part of the X Men, like you're

1054
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,239
you're made of X men ninety seven. Come on when he goes to the

1055
01:07:54,239 --> 01:08:00,679
cooler X men, Yeah, he'll
disregard flight. Yeah yeahs sasquatch, I

1056
01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:05,639
don't want to fucking beast over here? Yeah, lesser than I don't want

1057
01:08:05,639 --> 01:08:09,960
it? Is everyone done with their
notes? Yes? Yeah, like I

1058
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,480
I hitting you with the double thumb
down feels bad, but like I think

1059
01:08:13,519 --> 01:08:15,960
I will because of animation and other
stuff too. So yeah, I'm gonna

1060
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,359
hit with the double double thumb down, double thumb down for me, double

1061
01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:24,039
thumb down as well. Six thumbs
down so far. Who would have thought

1062
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:27,039
when we started this podcast when I
don't know, I guess I'll do the

1063
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:29,840
X Men. And now he's he's
the one crying over here give them better

1064
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,000
ratings than us. So true,
there we go. So episode nine Descent,

1065
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:38,159
which I thought was a weird title
for a sinister episode. I just

1066
01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:42,359
thought it'd be something like sinister like
something in the titles, especially with the

1067
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:45,760
amount of times that they say a
sinister event going on like in this episode.

1068
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,840
I would have imagined they had sinister
in the title called flashpoint. I

1069
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,920
don't know, but just just just
felt like a very random, like what

1070
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,119
do we call this, uh,
descent, Like, let's just finish this

1071
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:54,880
up. We got to move on
to the show. They're talking about the

1072
01:08:54,920 --> 01:09:03,640
quality of the show. Yeah,
desguie the season one word dissent In London,

1073
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:12,000
England, Victoria are too signedist Doctor
James Xavier and doctor Nathaniel Essex hotly

1074
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,800
debate Charles darwin theory of natural selection. Essex believes Essex sorry, believe mutees

1075
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:25,520
are the next general generic step No
fuck generic steps genetics step forward and begins

1076
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:30,680
a bizarre experiment involving mute evolution and
his wife. Uh. He creates himself

1077
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:40,960
a minion Jack to uh what to
procure mutin organs for him. Essex uses

1078
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:45,720
the mute DNA of Jack's victims to
transform himself. The origin of mister Sisor

1079
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,920
is revealed as doctor Xavier attempts to
have stopped Essex before he goes too far.

1080
01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:55,840
I also mentioned his wife. That
was an editor's note. Nowhere here

1081
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,479
in this Wikipedia thing they mentioned his
wife, which I feel like is a

1082
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,760
pretty big plot point in here,
But whoever wrote the Wikipedia description felt it

1083
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,720
was not. So Yeah, who
wants to start us off with dissent?

1084
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,840
I'll started off here. This is
another one where, man, I feel

1085
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,960
like this should have been earlier in
the show in terms of backstory, But

1086
01:10:15,119 --> 01:10:17,119
I don't even know where i'd put
it is. This is season one,

1087
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:20,079
two, three, four. I
don't know where I would season one,

1088
01:10:20,079 --> 01:10:24,159
when they learned about Sinister and then
you're like, oh, like I know

1089
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:27,920
about Sinister, and then you tell
the story because he has this book,

1090
01:10:28,039 --> 01:10:32,159
and but doesn't Sinister doesn't pop in
until season two, right, because I

1091
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:35,560
feel like you want to see him. Isn't he like the cliffhanger of season

1092
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:41,000
one? Oh? Maybe what's yeah? I thought season one they defeat him,

1093
01:10:41,039 --> 01:10:42,880
let me go back. Maybe they
did, maybe it was the night

1094
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,199
of the Center, or maybe maybe
they defeed him in the last episode or

1095
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:46,920
something, and then it's like cliffhangered
into the next one. But either way,

1096
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,279
like I feel like you want to
know of Sinister. But it also

1097
01:10:50,319 --> 01:10:54,760
feels weird to have this as the
second to last episode, the penultimate episode.

1098
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,680
As Travis loves to say, that's
a very weird spacing timing for it.

1099
01:10:59,399 --> 01:11:01,239
There's some fun stuff that goes on
here, but the Xavier stuff is

1100
01:11:01,319 --> 01:11:04,800
just like fucks with my mind in
a big way that I am very confused

1101
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,800
about. So overall, and there's
some there's some fun things to be had

1102
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,439
in this episode, for sure.
So even though it's weird, it's oddly

1103
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,199
paced, it's bizarre, It once
again feels like a bit of a what

1104
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:18,800
if situation. I think I like
it more than the previous episodes we talked

1105
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,600
about. In this chunk just because
there's some more interesting stuff going on,

1106
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,680
I guess, but it's still it's
a weird one to follow up, Dylan,

1107
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,720
was that what you're gonna say,
Kirkland, Yeah, I think so

1108
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,479
you could say go ahead. I
was just gonna say season two is the

1109
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:42,279
big Mister Seneaster season. Yeah,
oh I'm not done. You have you

1110
01:11:42,319 --> 01:11:45,119
have the double Partyer at the start
of season two and then like the double

1111
01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:46,840
Parder at the end, so somewhere
in that season, I definitely think you

1112
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,039
can fit in this origin ry tale. Yeah, that's a great point.

1113
01:11:50,079 --> 01:11:54,640
Actually, I think mid season two
would be good for this season one.

1114
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,159
The finale is excellent and a Magneto
team up to fight Master Mold if you

1115
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:01,680
remember Master Mold. So that's how
which was very random. But I feel

1116
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,319
like because it's strange, I think
we talked about this on the episode,

1117
01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:08,359
but Days of Future Past is the
episodes eleven and twelve. They should just

1118
01:12:08,359 --> 01:12:12,720
make that the finale of season one. Much more memorable storyline. But yeah,

1119
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,880
I think I don't think it's weird. It's exactly what Kirkland said,

1120
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,520
where at the beginning's where it's like
Tales of X Men it's just like,

1121
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,439
hey, do you want to know
about mister Sinister that this feels like.

1122
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:26,000
And I enjoyed this episode because I
like Sinistor. He's a weird fucking dude,

1123
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,880
and I love this in like a
sort of Hannibal esque way where at

1124
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,000
first he's doing it to like find
a cure and help his wife. And

1125
01:12:33,039 --> 01:12:36,000
that's even shady, right because even
she's like, are you trying to cure

1126
01:12:36,039 --> 01:12:38,840
me? Or are you just trying
to experiment on me? And he's just

1127
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,119
like, oh, darling, don't
worry about Like he's just such like a

1128
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:46,520
smooth talker. I just love he
just becomes this weird Hannibal esque guy who

1129
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,880
just starts experiments and then he's just
like just messing up with people, and

1130
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:55,319
he all does in the guys of
oh excience or moving things forward. But

1131
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,840
I love the end episode and they're
like, oh, when he's gone to

1132
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,960
hear here, it's like it's like
a serial killer, Like he's been all

1133
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,359
these cities and here are all these
victims that he's like fucked with and nest

1134
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,720
with, and he's just a weird
guy. And for some reason at the

1135
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,600
end of episode, and he's like, my name is not Nathaniel. Actually

1136
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,920
it's mister Sinister. You like,
buy it from this guy because he's just

1137
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,439
such a weirdo, right, So
I like the origin and the only not

1138
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,520
the only way, but the way
I can head canon it now. They

1139
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:25,760
never meant this back in the nineties, but because we know Sinster, sounds

1140
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,119
like he's coming back and he's one
of, if not the main villain of

1141
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:30,279
ninety seven for season one. I
kind of like this in a way where

1142
01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:33,880
it's like it's like a nice if
you were to watch it now back to

1143
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,560
back in the future of you go
from season five and then the season six,

1144
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,680
it's like a setup for Okay,
he's gonna be the main bad and

1145
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,119
here's his origente. I like that
he's out there. I'm with Dylan where

1146
01:13:45,119 --> 01:13:47,479
I don't know if you're as hard
as me. I hate the Xavier stuff.

1147
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,720
I do not like. I hate
when shows do like, oh,

1148
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:56,520
my great great great ancestor knew this
character, Like just make it a inspector

1149
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,520
anybody, you know, we're making
a different Marvel character. I just didn't

1150
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:03,600
joy that it was like an Exavier
descendant, Like it's just and like Jean

1151
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,840
Gray's family was part of this too, right, Like, is that just

1152
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,680
a coincidence that they had what I
don't even didn't even catch that. Well,

1153
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,760
I think the voice actors for Jean
Gray is doing his wife. I

1154
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,399
think that's a thing. I think
that family is the Grays, so like,

1155
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,000
I guess it ties into his obsession
with the Grays later on, like,

1156
01:14:21,039 --> 01:14:24,279
well, no, he's obsessed with
the Summers. So that's what it's

1157
01:14:24,319 --> 01:14:29,239
like weird maybe ninety seven both of
them, though, I mean to some

1158
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:32,039
extent, right, Oh yeah,
what sounds like some ninety seven stuff.

1159
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:34,520
We're gonna get some more of that, like in that bloodline. So I

1160
01:14:35,319 --> 01:14:41,800
like the episode. I like the
episode overall. It's weird placing, but

1161
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:48,520
this is probably my favorite out of
the five, and honestly, maybe yeah,

1162
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,640
maybe, Like it's probably tied up
there with Omega Red because I think

1163
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:56,000
I agree with you guys last time
that it wasn't as as great as I

1164
01:14:56,039 --> 01:14:58,399
want, But I just love Omega
Red being around. He got to fight

1165
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,520
Colosses and wolf Raine, so it
up there. So I enjoyed this little

1166
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,960
look back at how did we get
this very messed up mutant individual? So

1167
01:15:05,119 --> 01:15:11,439
yeah, yeah, I quite like
this little journey that we had, and

1168
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,159
like I said, like it was
just weird the placing of it, especially

1169
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:16,279
like this is the second last episode
of this show ever, Like if we

1170
01:15:16,359 --> 01:15:19,239
never get X Men ninety seven,
this is the second last episode ever.

1171
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,000
All it is is an origin for
not even the biggest villain in the entire

1172
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:26,960
show, like I would argue Paul
Clypse is definitely the biggest villain. So

1173
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,720
it's weird placing. But I did
like at least getting an explanation of of

1174
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,520
what's going on there and just his
obsession with these with with his goal of

1175
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:41,359
like having like the ultimate life for
it. That sounds weird to say,

1176
01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:43,159
but I guess that's kind of what
he's doing. That's kind of what he

1177
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:45,319
wants, Like he just wants this
evolution, I guess of him. Yeah,

1178
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,000
or he's like the guy's working on
a cap when they like they want

1179
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:53,800
the peak human condition. He wants
like the peak like mutant condition, and

1180
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,279
we don't even know what that is, right, So Yeah, I like

1181
01:15:56,319 --> 01:16:00,319
seeing like his his uh you know, precinist or look too, like when

1182
01:16:00,319 --> 01:16:03,960
his skin isn't change, like he's
looks pretty suave. Yeah, Like I

1183
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:09,199
did like his his overall aesthetic and
just being back then, Like I never

1184
01:16:09,239 --> 01:16:14,039
would have assumed Charles Darwin would be
making appearance in X Men like animated series,

1185
01:16:14,119 --> 01:16:16,520
right, you got Jack the Ripper
here, Like it's just it's a

1186
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:24,159
pretty weird, uh mixing of individuals. But I did like the the the

1187
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:29,560
descent I guess into sinisterisms that he
does end up going on, and it

1188
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,319
does. You know, it's not
it's not like a multipart or anything,

1189
01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:35,560
but I think the pacing of it
was appropriate, Like it's it's not like

1190
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,520
it's complete, like he's fine,
and then it just takes like a complete

1191
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,479
random drop off. Like I do
think that it kind of gets there,

1192
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:47,359
especially when he's friendly with like Xavier
and even like Darwin, and then when

1193
01:16:47,359 --> 01:16:49,600
they kind of get a glimpse of
what's going on, that's when they lose

1194
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,479
him and he just gets a little
bit crazier and crazier. So overall,

1195
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,439
yeah, I think this is you
know, I might have to look at

1196
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,720
the season overall, but this could
be my favorite episode of the season,

1197
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:03,479
just because it's it's a big X
Men character that like how did he get

1198
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,279
white? Like why did his eyes
go red? What? What what happened

1199
01:17:08,279 --> 01:17:10,479
to his voice? That made him
go that way, like it's like,

1200
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,520
not all those answers, you know, are answered or given to us,

1201
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,760
I guess, but still it's just
how did he get white asked the same

1202
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:24,000
questions they're asked by Michael Jackson back
in All three? My god, you

1203
01:17:24,079 --> 01:17:28,039
have the same potion, you know
what? Pretty yeah, pretty comparable with

1204
01:17:28,079 --> 01:17:33,560
those two. And I feep like
sinisters, that's not cool there, But

1205
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:38,039
I feel like, isn't he a
bit is he fully white? There's like

1206
01:17:38,039 --> 01:17:41,159
a white blue tinged sinister. I
think there's a little blue and I think

1207
01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:44,600
there's a little bit blue here,
but yeah, that's part of the dissent,

1208
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:50,159
right, he gets the white.
Taylor, you're looking like sinister right

1209
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:53,800
now. Actually with that light on
your face, don't call me Taylor.

1210
01:17:53,960 --> 01:18:00,800
Casha. The light just went out
and handed his robot. That's not my

1211
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,960
name. Yeah. I liked.
I like going into the past here again.

1212
01:18:05,039 --> 01:18:10,439
This is great, and I was, I was, I was enjoying

1213
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,520
the transition. It caught me off
guard when things was trying to like go

1214
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,840
sideways here. I was like,
oh, this is kind of this is

1215
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,800
kind of wacky, and it felt
kind of like a Frankenstein kind of VIY

1216
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:23,560
like a doctor Frankenstein esque aesthetic to
it. I really really like that.

1217
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:30,640
And I guess just said why they
chose to do his origin story here.

1218
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:34,159
I guess it's because after his sneak
away down the alley, they had to

1219
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:38,640
touch back on his character. So
right, I forgot about that. Where

1220
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,640
did Sinister go when he was cyclosts
his shoulder? They knew, Taylor,

1221
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,119
they're gonna make ninety seven and twenty
twenty three. They just knew they were

1222
01:18:45,119 --> 01:18:49,000
going for like the long calm,
you know, like episode three to force

1223
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:53,880
Awaken sort of deal. You know, we're episode six, so right,

1224
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:59,800
yeah, you said it, Darwin
Peering. This episode that was unexpected.

1225
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,680
So there's just a few things that
were interesting, and I guess it does

1226
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,800
a good job of kind of planting
the seeds of the subsession for why this

1227
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:12,359
villain is doing all this crazy shit
and all throughout the whole series. So

1228
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,319
I enjoyed it a lot. It
was really really good. Nice nice see

1229
01:19:16,319 --> 01:19:19,760
if I got any actually didn't write
any notes. I just actually put Inspector

1230
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,560
Xavier no thanks, because I just
don't like that troupe when anybody does that,

1231
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,319
it's just I just didn't need Xavier. I was fine with him getting

1232
01:19:27,359 --> 01:19:30,600
the book telling the story, and
again it felt I'd love to know the

1233
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,399
story behind this season, like the
end, like they to me, we'll

1234
01:19:34,399 --> 01:19:38,159
get to in the second. They
ended in a way where like they're like

1235
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:40,600
it's an ending, So I don't
feel like it's like, oh, we're

1236
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,479
gonna set up Sinister again. Maybe
they were and some episodes got cut.

1237
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,399
Maybe they're gonna fight them all one
more time. But so I like the

1238
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,279
idea of he has this book,
so I'd kind of love if they were

1239
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:51,119
to tie that back. We're one
of the X Men, fine Xavier's journal

1240
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:56,039
novel there in the new season,
and that like kind of brings back Sinister.

1241
01:19:56,119 --> 01:19:58,119
I hope we get some of those
ties because I said like, oh,

1242
01:19:58,159 --> 01:20:00,319
we're gonna try to make it a
direct sequel, so I hope that

1243
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:03,439
they bring that in case. I
feel like that, especially with Sinistor being

1244
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:08,640
a villain in it, that is
like like it's perfect, like you can

1245
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,000
and be right there, you know, so yes, we'll see Yeah,

1246
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,399
I know. The highlight for me
here is just what Taylor was saying there.

1247
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,760
I really like getting the backstory from
understanding on why Sinister is the way

1248
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,239
he is and why his goals have
been the way they are of trying to

1249
01:20:25,239 --> 01:20:28,640
get this perfect bloodline, bringing the
human race to perfection. You know,

1250
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,159
he's talking about how he wants humans
to be stronger and immune to all these

1251
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,279
diseases. But then over the course
of just breathing in these fumes and these

1252
01:20:35,319 --> 01:20:39,840
potions that he's making, just you
can see how his mind deteriorates, but

1253
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:44,640
it kind of starts from a place
of actually wanting to help society. And

1254
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,359
I think that breakdown is like really
well done, and like, once again

1255
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,720
the twenty minute cartoon here, I
think they did like a really good job

1256
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:54,079
of establishing that it helps that we
know this character so well I guess at

1257
01:20:54,079 --> 01:20:57,239
this point, but yeah, it
just kind of like helps fill in the

1258
01:20:57,279 --> 01:21:00,560
gaps of why he's doing what he
is, and so I really liked that

1259
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,720
part of it. I think it
was like really well done for how messy

1260
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:08,000
this season is, Like that's something
that actually kind of nailed and I really

1261
01:21:08,039 --> 01:21:12,640
appreciate it. I really loved his
look when he you know, he took

1262
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,920
the bleach potion became white and then
he had like those those those shades on.

1263
01:21:17,079 --> 01:21:19,840
He just had like such a sweet
look to it. Oh yeah,

1264
01:21:20,039 --> 01:21:25,119
it's like maws sinister variant, give
me that one. Which was surprising too

1265
01:21:25,239 --> 01:21:29,119
that when they bump into him again
before he gets full cissor, no one

1266
01:21:29,119 --> 01:21:31,119
ever asked him like, dude,
like, what's what's going on? Like

1267
01:21:31,119 --> 01:21:34,479
why you look like that? Oh
Exavier, And he's like, what are

1268
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,279
you up to? Essex? Just
like wouldn't you mention? Like what's going

1269
01:21:38,319 --> 01:21:42,079
on? Like and another clarification I
wanted. They talk about his wife and

1270
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:47,880
he, which was interesting that he
still offered before he ran, he told

1271
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,239
her to come with her, which
was very odd because I didn't feel like

1272
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:54,319
mister sisters thing that felt like I
like, oh, screw you as all

1273
01:21:54,319 --> 01:21:56,840
my scigns. But the fact that
he still wanted her to come was I

1274
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,279
liked that wrinkle of okay for whatever
connection they had, whether it was just

1275
01:22:00,319 --> 01:22:03,720
the science or something he wanted her
to join, she didn't. They dropped

1276
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:08,279
this s line that they say he
left and his wife never spoke again.

1277
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,960
At first, I was gonna say
of him, but they're insame way his

1278
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,239
wife just chose not to speak ever, Yeah, which is very odd.

1279
01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:18,600
So it's like, did just the
whole city just blame this woman and she's

1280
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:24,199
just like ouse it out of this
community, like very strange. That wasn't

1281
01:22:24,279 --> 01:22:27,319
like as far fetched for me for
whatever reason. I feel like it just

1282
01:22:27,359 --> 01:22:30,640
I've heard stories of like a widow
or whatever, like they just lose like

1283
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,279
a loved one and they're just the
shock, like they just never speak again

1284
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:36,039
or something like they're just completely changed
from that moment. And if if especially

1285
01:22:36,199 --> 01:22:40,439
for someone like that, like if
she found out like all the sinisters acts

1286
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,239
that he was doing and all these
horrible things, like how could you be

1287
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,720
just having something like that like in
your life without knowing and then when that

1288
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,920
reveal comes out, like you're just
you're just forever changed. So that's just

1289
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:53,079
kind of the way that I took
it it. It is like a quick

1290
01:22:53,119 --> 01:22:56,079
line that they just say and then
it just cuts like another thing. It's

1291
01:22:56,119 --> 01:22:59,439
like really okay whatever they're but uh, for me, at least it was

1292
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,439
a little bit more easy to digest. Yeah, I feel like that was

1293
01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:06,439
this this that subplot didn't really work
for me so much with the wife,

1294
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,800
so I guess I kind of ignored
it to some extent, But I liked

1295
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,600
having a Darwin in there. I
think that was that was fun. That

1296
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,439
once again leads into why he was
so inspired to have these ideas which let

1297
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,760
him down that dark path. But
I thought that was just kind of a

1298
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,640
fun historical figure to pull in there. And that's why I was so confused

1299
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,359
by this exavier stuff, because I
just thought that was Charles for a bit

1300
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,159
and I was like, what is
going on here? Until I was like,

1301
01:23:30,199 --> 01:23:32,479
well, Darwin's like I don't know
how old he was, but he's

1302
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,279
definitely pretty old, So this timeline
is not adding up for me. So

1303
01:23:36,319 --> 01:23:41,000
eventually it clicked. But yeah,
that part of it was kind of weird.

1304
01:23:41,279 --> 01:23:45,039
It's like eighteen eighties, I think, right was right like somewhere around

1305
01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:47,199
that that timeline. I thought this
was gonna be the origin of the Nasty

1306
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:50,720
Boys too. I was expecting like
the first st effort that would maim Drop,

1307
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:55,039
but I guess that came later when
he got a little bit more sinister.

1308
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,239
I kind of liked the sorry to
cut you out there done, but

1309
01:23:59,319 --> 01:24:02,319
just like the like the overall legend
of what the sinister was, like the

1310
01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:08,399
way it ended of just like the
way that he's just maybe making appearances like

1311
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,720
across the world, like it's just
it is just this this thing, this

1312
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,520
evil entity that keeps just popping up
and doing sinister acts because they have never

1313
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,880
I don't think they ever show him, but they just like show a montage

1314
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:23,880
of different places in the world and
insinuating that he's been doing his usual sinister

1315
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,239
acts and in those places decades in
generation. Yeah, this guy is just

1316
01:24:28,279 --> 01:24:30,640
like and that's where it's like,
I know, it's different when they say,

1317
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:31,239
oh, yeah, since it's been
around for a while, but when

1318
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:33,920
you get to see it in that
aspect of him being back so far,

1319
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,640
it's very like a Dracula sort of
deal thing. And that's why I love

1320
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,600
where he's been around for generations,
your kids, your kids, your kids,

1321
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,399
and he's just just experiment on people, kidnapping them, doing messed up

1322
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,439
stuff. Yeah, it's pretty dark. Like obviously this show does get dark

1323
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,680
at some points with certain character deaths
or storylines or you know, there's a

1324
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,159
lot of like slavery going on in
the show. But yeah, I felt

1325
01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:58,800
like when we finally went down to
that basement and there's like these prisoners in

1326
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,479
there, they're like starving his like
for the for this show, that was

1327
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,479
kind of some of the peak darkness
that we've seen so far. Even animals

1328
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:10,680
don't deserve this treatment. I was
like okay, which led into maybe the

1329
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:15,319
worst fight that we've ever seen in
this show between Sinister before he has his

1330
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,600
powers and this Xavier is just some
guy and they're like tripping over chairs and

1331
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:25,119
like throwing random stuff at each other. Just the worst fight I've ever seen.

1332
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:33,520
Yeah, anything else in this episode, My last my last thing was

1333
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:40,159
so the whole setup of this is
like Xavier's having uh, the real Exavier

1334
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:43,399
Charles is having a dream, I
guess right, And we get like this

1335
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,239
dream sequence kind of glow that looks
really awful, but like he's just sleeping

1336
01:25:46,279 --> 01:25:50,640
in his sleeping in his bed just
like an a raging storm is going on

1337
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:56,560
outside, like super powerful winds,
rain thunder, though, like his his

1338
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,680
blinds or his curtains are just being
blasted across the room. Why doesn't he

1339
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,680
close his fucking window? Like who
sleeps like that? I'm sure rain is

1340
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,920
busting through the window at this point. I don't know why he doesn't close

1341
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,920
the window, you know, very
weird choice for me, but I think

1342
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,920
it to me. Meat also like
it added to his character because he is

1343
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,479
kind of a weirdo sometimes and that
is something that he would do, like

1344
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,319
just I don't know, to train
his body or something just stood out to

1345
01:26:23,039 --> 01:26:27,920
its body. I don't know.
Mentally, I guess mentally to die the

1346
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:34,840
next episode. That's all for me. Tarror anything, you're pretty quills on

1347
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:40,560
this episode. No, just aside
from just the time jump, going back,

1348
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,760
ancestors, bloodlines, all that,
and like I said, just this,

1349
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,760
you mentioned Dracula, which is probably
a lot more fitting than Frankenstein.

1350
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,720
Well, I think he was like
the dog frames of it. Then he

1351
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,720
becomes Dracula where yeah, yeah,
that's a good way of putting it.

1352
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,000
No, I just I thought it
was. It was. It was a

1353
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,199
good episode. I don't know much
else I can add, though, Well,

1354
01:27:00,279 --> 01:27:03,199
give us your thumbs. I'll give
it a two thumbs, two thumbs,

1355
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,600
thumb and a half. I'm a
thumb half as well, thumb and

1356
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:11,520
a half as well. There we
go. Well, Elejo and we have

1357
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,520
made it. That was the penultimate
episode. But now we're here for the

1358
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,960
finale, the last episode out of
time for the X Men animated series until

1359
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:23,000
a couple of years ago we got
the great announced what they're bringing it back.

1360
01:27:23,079 --> 01:27:29,439
But here we go. Graduation Day, episode ten, series finale,

1361
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,800
final episode, Yeah Thanks. At
a mutant slash Human relations summit, Henry

1362
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:41,960
Peter Gyric attacks and cripples Xavier with
an injury disruptor, which like cripples his

1363
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,560
mind and stuff, but the X
Men and Moemer Tagret try to save Xavier,

1364
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,119
but all seems lost. Lelandre comes
and has a cure, but Xavier

1365
01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:54,119
must leave and go with her to
a Sheer Empire to be cured. Meanwhile,

1366
01:27:54,159 --> 01:27:58,680
Magneto makes his final preparations to take
over the world with his Mune army,

1367
01:27:59,399 --> 01:28:03,000
but Ah the eve the invasion,
Cyclops Wolverine Jean Gray infiltrate Genotia and

1368
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:09,279
Genosha and tell Magneto that Xavier is
dying. He halts the assault on humankind

1369
01:28:09,319 --> 01:28:12,960
out of respect for his grace,
enemy, equal, and only friend.

1370
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:17,880
The final scene shows the last moment
as all the X Men and Magneto stand

1371
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:23,640
outside the X Mansion say to goodbye
to Exavior as he leaves the Lilandra and

1372
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,800
her ship to the Shear Home world. See Xavier is like, you need

1373
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,079
to get me out of here,
Landro, I can't stay here anymore,

1374
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:34,279
or just thinking He's like you're not
finding Xavier coming with me. That's what

1375
01:28:34,319 --> 01:28:38,119
he's saying about that stormy night.
That stormy night, He's like, I

1376
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:40,119
get the fuck out of here.
You know. It was just like how

1377
01:28:40,119 --> 01:28:42,880
can I get back with Lilandra.
I'm just gonna fake my illness. She's

1378
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,319
gonna come save me and then she
won't be able to kick me out.

1379
01:28:45,159 --> 01:28:51,239
Sergy gone, No, like bray
a headache. God, I'm killing all

1380
01:28:51,279 --> 01:28:59,720
these humans. He's just like he's
doing magneto task but pretending like it's against

1381
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,439
this. Oh no, I don't
want to just send a meteor on Earth.

1382
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:12,600
Just see Pure focused explore Logan's dick. Would you say? So?

1383
01:29:13,319 --> 01:29:15,640
Yeah? What did uh? Tanner
Field? What did you think about this?

1384
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,439
As the finale episode? This is
why I was trying too many times

1385
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:25,520
skirt around like Exayor is not dead, but he is dead, Like it's

1386
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,800
like a very like his body's dead, but his mind's It's a weird situation.

1387
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:30,880
He's just in his long term coma. But that's why he's trying to

1388
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:35,439
jump around like there's a reason why
in ninety seven Side Clubs and Storm are

1389
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:39,800
fighting for who is the leader.
There's a reason Magneto's gonna be on the

1390
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,079
team. Because Xaviers. I'll just
say, for all purposes, all intended

1391
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:46,239
purposes, dead for this season.
I would imagine I'm gonna we'll probably talk

1392
01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:50,039
about predictions if we see the uh, the old Man again. But what

1393
01:29:50,079 --> 01:29:55,119
did you think of this episode as
a finale? Yeah? So again I

1394
01:29:55,359 --> 01:29:59,119
I it's almost like I wasn't even
expecting this to be the finale. I

1395
01:29:59,159 --> 01:30:00,319
just assume, like, oh,
I like a few more episodes to go,

1396
01:30:00,359 --> 01:30:05,239
but just this's just slapped in there. And yeah, Xavier went down

1397
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:11,520
pretty fast with this guy and his
taser gun, which is very sad to

1398
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:15,479
see. And again, it's just
something that's familiar. You got people advocating

1399
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,560
for, you know, down with
mutants and whatnot. So that's just the

1400
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:23,119
general theme that we've seen so many
times over. And I feel like things

1401
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:26,840
kind of diffuse pretty quickly after that, because they escorted the guy out,

1402
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,760
and that was a prolonged escort,
like he was fucking ready to like start,

1403
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,119
I don't know, like God,
he was just throwing a whole tantrum

1404
01:30:35,159 --> 01:30:44,560
as the people dragged him out of
the whole Congress conference room. But everything

1405
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,000
after that just it was very somber
and very quiet and just yell Magneto or

1406
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:53,239
Xavier is just this as well,
that we really getting to this point like

1407
01:30:53,279 --> 01:30:55,319
no tech on Earth can save them, and like, okay, we don't

1408
01:30:55,359 --> 01:31:00,399
have anything with a Landra. We
can't reach a Landra. Sorry because nine

1409
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,960
months nine months with the message,
yeah, not ideal. So I just

1410
01:31:04,119 --> 01:31:10,720
I didn't really understand what it was
that was really depreciating Xavier's health, because

1411
01:31:12,079 --> 01:31:16,479
I like, this is stun gun
just is like able to just fatally just

1412
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,319
put him on a time limit all
of a sudden, It just felt very,

1413
01:31:19,399 --> 01:31:21,399
very weird, and it's like,
okay, this is the last episode.

1414
01:31:21,399 --> 01:31:25,000
We need to just send him out
the door, and sure enough.

1415
01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:27,560
Just this should have been a two
parter. I feel like, is to

1416
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,960
do this in twenty minutes is rough
because you can you have him at the

1417
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,520
start when he's healthy, and then
you have him on his deathbed of the

1418
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,359
Landra taking him away at the end
of the episode, and you have a

1419
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:40,119
whole like Genosha invasion force that's gonna
happen. Oh yeah, with Magneto,

1420
01:31:40,279 --> 01:31:44,760
there's a lot that they squished him. To hear that being said, I

1421
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,000
like Magneto. I like seeing everyone
like, oh, Harry comes he's coming

1422
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,479
out of his little perch at the
top and everyone's freaking out and they have

1423
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:57,279
the night before his invasion starts.
He just he goes off to see see

1424
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:02,079
Xavier and just fucking like electric cute
him. It's not actually cute, I

1425
01:32:02,239 --> 01:32:08,319
guess. Finally, Charles, can
you do little head games on me?

1426
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:15,319
I feel like he has had electric
powers this whole time. Well, I'd

1427
01:32:15,399 --> 01:32:17,479
just like to imagine that he has
like a physical taser with him right needle,

1428
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,520
Like he has all his bags pals
and he has a taser that he'll

1429
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:25,279
just bring out everyone, so all
you know, so i'd be smart.

1430
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:32,680
Yeah, I can go next here. So ah, I didn't like this

1431
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:38,159
pen. I don't like it.
There is some good stuff in here,

1432
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:41,279
Like I don't know, Xavier giving
his like partying words to everyone like that

1433
01:32:41,359 --> 01:32:45,840
is a very sweet moment, especially
where we've gone. I think almost everyone

1434
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,359
gets like a really nice send off
and then a couple of people just get

1435
01:32:48,399 --> 01:32:54,640
really shafted with the like goodbye words. But like still like that moment is

1436
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:59,479
is really sweet in general. But
I just I just feel like this whole

1437
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,079
thing, this this felt like how
we talk about with every MCU, like

1438
01:33:02,119 --> 01:33:05,880
Disney Plus show where it's like,
man, that finale, they really shoved

1439
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,199
a lot in there, and obviously
I'm comparing this a lot to season's four

1440
01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:12,960
finale, and obviously it was a
multi parter and it felt like we were

1441
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,880
really building up to that that finale, but that was just such a great

1442
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,479
finale, so I've seen them nail
it and then to go to this where

1443
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,199
it this just feels like, oh
fuck, we're out of time, Like

1444
01:33:20,359 --> 01:33:24,600
we totally didn't realize this is the
ending. We just did like a sinister

1445
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,640
episode. I guess we got to
like close this off in one episode here,

1446
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,439
and this is the best that they
could do. And ultimately, I

1447
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,720
think the biggest issue from here is
like the Magneto stuff, because I just

1448
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,800
feel like where we left off with
that character, none of this really makes

1449
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,159
sense for him. So it just
feels like, oh, let's throw them

1450
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,960
the biggest villain in there for one
last hurrah, but it doesn't really work

1451
01:33:44,039 --> 01:33:46,000
or make sense, and it kind
of it kind of ruins what the character

1452
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:51,079
was for me to this point.
So yeah, it was pretty weak for

1453
01:33:51,119 --> 01:33:56,199
me overall. Was just too rushed. It needed more time or it really

1454
01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:59,239
just needed like the season to build
up to something like this. But then

1455
01:33:59,279 --> 01:34:01,199
it also feels like a bit of
a cop out because the Xavier is not

1456
01:34:01,359 --> 01:34:05,279
dead. Uh, And yeah,
he might be gone for the next season

1457
01:34:05,279 --> 01:34:11,039
of the show, but to me, he's absolutely alive and he might need

1458
01:34:11,079 --> 01:34:13,960
a few months to get back on
his feet or something, well maybe not

1459
01:34:14,039 --> 01:34:16,079
back on his feet, hard getting
back into in a good form. I

1460
01:34:16,119 --> 01:34:19,279
mean, who knows, maybe the
Landra's medicine can can give him all sorts

1461
01:34:19,319 --> 01:34:23,319
of crazy stuff like that. So
it's just like the size of Juggernaut when

1462
01:34:23,319 --> 01:34:27,520
he gets back, that would be
that would be something just like my brother

1463
01:34:29,239 --> 01:34:33,039
the same helmet and I want to
take over the world now. Yeah,

1464
01:34:33,079 --> 01:34:36,239
but uh, I don't know.
It's it's pitter sweet because there's some good

1465
01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:40,720
stuff in here, but overall it's
just a it's a it's a really weak

1466
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,319
finale. But then I also like, well, the show's coming back,

1467
01:34:43,359 --> 01:34:45,800
so it's like it's not it's not
the finale I guess anymore. It was

1468
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,399
for a couple of decades. Yeah, but I did that was not my

1469
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,840
experience, right, you know,
like I only have to wait a couple

1470
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:55,159
of months, so it's not too
bad for me. Yeah, yeah,

1471
01:34:55,319 --> 01:35:00,680
I'm pretty I'm pretty happy that,
like I had the sea into lead up

1472
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,680
to the finale, it wasn't just
like a banger finale or sorry, a

1473
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:08,000
banger final season and then just like
the finale really really under delivered, because

1474
01:35:08,039 --> 01:35:12,319
it definitely did. It's like there's
there is I think some interesting things happen,

1475
01:35:12,399 --> 01:35:16,880
but especially regarding just like the build
up to Magneto about to take over

1476
01:35:17,039 --> 01:35:20,359
like all of the human existence,
and like there's like the lead up to

1477
01:35:20,359 --> 01:35:24,439
Helm's Deep like this, this seems
like we're getting into like a five episode

1478
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,640
arc or something. Yeah, like
that's what it feels like. And then

1479
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,399
it's just like your buddy's dying and
then he just like switches all of his

1480
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,640
ideals like right away, and then
he's he's just a good guy. From

1481
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:42,039
this one, my friend Saramon calling
off the Yuric like all of his soldiers

1482
01:35:42,079 --> 01:35:44,760
are like, so do we just
like is he coming back? Do we

1483
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,640
just wait? Do we invade without
him? Like it's just it's pretty pretty

1484
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:53,840
messy there. I really feel like
like the I guess the best part about

1485
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:58,920
this episode is when Charles has his
like little dialogue like talking about quickly about

1486
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,199
like each member I'm just like,
I don't know, it's kind of pulling

1487
01:36:01,239 --> 01:36:04,920
on like some hot storm I love. Yeah, that was what I know

1488
01:36:05,039 --> 01:36:11,760
to Store, my beautiful Storm has
a hurricane. What we could have,

1489
01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:15,079
what we could have been if we
were the same age, right or I

1490
01:36:15,159 --> 01:36:17,319
was just like, why are you
talking about? Definitely just like man on

1491
01:36:17,359 --> 01:36:23,119
his deathbed and mine's not there,
and he's just letting out his true thoughts,

1492
01:36:23,159 --> 01:36:27,159
like literally, yeah, he's always
wanted to shoot a shot with Storm,

1493
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,199
and here he's gonna do it.
The most beautiful woman I've ever seen

1494
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:35,920
Storlandry old Hag come back his face. Just give me Storm, I love

1495
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,199
you. But you know Storm,
oh my gosh, you would create rain

1496
01:36:40,319 --> 01:36:44,720
and maybe gross getting around here.
Maybe they did have something going on.

1497
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,600
Maybe's last episode. They're just like
gold Sign, just like make storms for

1498
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,399
me, and she's like, yes, sir, I will do that.

1499
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:53,479
You know. Yeah he wanted that, And then when he was that's what

1500
01:36:53,520 --> 01:37:00,560
I mean, yeah storms. It
definitely seemed like his his speech was very

1501
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,920
differently on different characters, like even
Logan. It's like Logan, you're always

1502
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:08,800
a loner, Like I know,
he says something savage, I call you,

1503
01:37:09,319 --> 01:37:12,960
I wrote it down because it was
so weird. Logan, Loaner,

1504
01:37:13,359 --> 01:37:17,159
you have found a family, while
Savage you have found dignity. Cynic,

1505
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,920
you have found faith and also just
had like the weird ass coalmas in it

1506
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:25,760
too, Like he said it so
weird. He's seeing like these a couple

1507
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:30,439
of episodes. I love the Savage, like not even saying once a Savage.

1508
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:34,159
He's like you Savage, but you're
a little better, which is a

1509
01:37:34,199 --> 01:37:41,079
bit you. Aurora, Oh my
god, Lura Logan, have you've seen

1510
01:37:41,159 --> 01:37:51,880
her? It's like an exavior so
ascribed her smell to me. There's nothing

1511
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:56,680
in space without the feeling like a
rain from Aura and Rome. Man,

1512
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:02,199
the more we dissected the worst,
the worst it gets. But like it

1513
01:38:02,279 --> 01:38:08,279
definitely had the emotional moment of a
goodbye while I was watching. At least

1514
01:38:08,399 --> 01:38:11,479
I think it's also just thinking back
on the entire show, like just carrying

1515
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,600
in my own exterior thoughts. Entered
the episode knowing that this was the finale,

1516
01:38:15,039 --> 01:38:19,359
but someone actually got like a good
good send off. Just a couple

1517
01:38:19,399 --> 01:38:24,079
of outliers that were I don't know
if any of them did be. I

1518
01:38:24,079 --> 01:38:28,039
wrote down Gambits as well. Gambit, how many times must the scoundrel prove

1519
01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:30,840
himself a hero before he believes it
himself. Like that's that's like a beautiful

1520
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:35,239
succinct thought. Either way, I
really want to fuck Storm, so just

1521
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:41,399
make sure you know that going forward. Like like I was just talking about

1522
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,079
the other two weird ones, Like
I get what he was saying, but

1523
01:38:44,199 --> 01:38:47,319
he's like rogue who can't touch everyone, but if you look around, you've

1524
01:38:47,359 --> 01:38:50,680
touched us all. And I just
claughed, like I get what they were

1525
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:57,239
going for, but I just like, remember that. Good to have you

1526
01:38:57,359 --> 01:39:02,479
back, but thanks for not killing
me in season one. And then my

1527
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,279
fair was Gene, where he just
outright says Jean's his favorite. He says,

1528
01:39:06,319 --> 01:39:11,479
Gene, I wrote down what's the
number one of my number one in

1529
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,039
my heart? So just as everyone's
like, oh crying, just like and

1530
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:18,359
like Storm, your good look at
the Gene. She's my favorite. Fuck

1531
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,359
you all And that isn't right for
one in my heart, but number one

1532
01:39:21,399 --> 01:39:25,119
on my mind. That's what he's
thinking of. Yeah, I didn't write

1533
01:39:25,119 --> 01:39:28,039
down cyclopses, but I feel like
that one was pretty underwhelming from what I

1534
01:39:28,079 --> 01:39:30,479
remember. I think that one was
a safe, like, oh man,

1535
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,600
a boy become a man and to
a leader like all this type of I

1536
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:38,479
like your lasers. Man. Yeah, I think it was like the son

1537
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,760
becoming a father or something like that, like yeah, yeah, he compared

1538
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,720
him to like his son or something
like that, which is weird because like

1539
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,840
just last season Scott found his actual
dad. But like, I get it,

1540
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,479
it's fine. So yeah, what
was that guy's name again? Crossair

1541
01:39:53,239 --> 01:40:00,399
Cross Corsair, Corsair, that's Cross
Dead Shovers cross Hair and like be I'm

1542
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,600
like Beast, I don't think got
really anything really, to be honest,

1543
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:10,279
I don't remember sh yeah, and
I'm I've always been smarter than you.

1544
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:17,680
He's just fucking roasting all the members
except for Cheene and Storm, my favorite

1545
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:23,039
in the hottest I love you women, you believe I wish we never took

1546
01:40:23,079 --> 01:40:30,239
you in. I wish you died
in that cave. It was designed for

1547
01:40:30,319 --> 01:40:33,000
your death. He starts doing like
a whole Jake saw you know, but

1548
01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:40,760
you failed. My overall thought like
yeah, just an underwhelming send off.

1549
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:45,199
I actually was shocked that Lilandra popped
up, Like I didn't know that that

1550
01:40:45,319 --> 01:40:47,039
was coming at all, but I
didn't read the wiki, so that like

1551
01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:50,600
just shocked me, Like I I
didn't think that he died, but they're

1552
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:55,600
definitely leading that direction and Lalandra just
takes him away. It's like, oh,

1553
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,479
okay, that's where he's going to
be. I guess in ninety seven.

1554
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:03,199
That's interesting, but yeah, I
don't know, it's I I feel

1555
01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:09,279
like it's just Season four finale was
just way better than what this was.

1556
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:14,239
Like, maybe have like a little
dialogue that's not as creepy or weird here,

1557
01:41:14,359 --> 01:41:17,119
just to have something said to say
goodbye to these characters. Especially,

1558
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:19,119
I mean, if you watch this
when it came out, like yeah,

1559
01:41:19,159 --> 01:41:23,600
you'd be waiting hell of a long
time and not knowing that that it was

1560
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,680
ever going to be coming back because
obviously that was well before the Disney acquisition.

1561
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,640
So yeah, it's uh, I
don't know, though, it's it's

1562
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,000
also an interesting just way to close
this book. On the X Men retro,

1563
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:43,479
there's some weird lines about Thirsty on
Storm. Yeah, I mean it

1564
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,600
was nice. Yeah, he didn't
need Yeah, we are meming, he

1565
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,960
didn't need to drop the beauty Like
I get what they're going for, but

1566
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:54,520
it just felt odd just the physical
appearance cocoa butter skin, Oh my god.

1567
01:41:54,640 --> 01:42:01,720
Yeah, no one smells like Rose
or Storm. He's changing her names

1568
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:11,560
as hot as a light, as
a feather and as hot as a stone

1569
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:19,159
storm, Like it just sounds like
an mind over there. Well that was

1570
01:42:19,239 --> 01:42:28,720
Bilbo when he gives him throw skills
me. Who's going with the overall?

1571
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,039
Everyone but me? Right, yeah, no, it's fine. It's it's

1572
01:42:32,079 --> 01:42:36,319
disappointing. It's like what Dylan said, it's a rush finale that hurts Magneto

1573
01:42:36,359 --> 01:42:41,800
because I taught I kind of forget
that. He does this like he'll turn

1574
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,439
and the face turn again. But
the whole past two seasons and been like,

1575
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,119
oh man, like this really tracks
really well for him being like one

1576
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:49,960
of the leaders the X Men,
except for this finale where he's like,

1577
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:54,760
fucking all Xavier attacked, I'm gonna
kill everybody, Like all you have to

1578
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,840
do is the same storyline where he's
hurt, they find Magno and just said,

1579
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:59,600
we really need your help. That's
all. You don't need to do

1580
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,600
this. He's about to invade the
whole world. I don't know, maybe

1581
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,000
they could have with a two parter
made it like you could have gave him

1582
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,439
some development if he was saying I
was trying to do better. But once

1583
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:11,760
they heard Xavier. I knew,
like, okay, they heard Xavier,

1584
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,920
who in this world's supposed to be
like the god of Mune's a good guy,

1585
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,319
will never do, will never be
able to achieve equality if they heard

1586
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:23,479
Xavier, you know, but they
didn't. They touch on that like minorly,

1587
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:27,239
so there's a way they could have
span it. But did Charles say

1588
01:43:27,239 --> 01:43:32,880
anything to Magneto and my beautiful Magnus
that one night in the rockies, I'll

1589
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:38,760
never forget and I don't touch my
storm. Yeah she's not yours. Uh

1590
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:43,159
No, there's there's still big drop, I think, just overall, especially

1591
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,840
just with how much like they have
bonded and that it like that is Magneto

1592
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,760
or Magnus's I guess only friends has
said in the wiki, like that just

1593
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:54,560
seems like a major myss. They're
not even having anything for them to say.

1594
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,960
I'm trying to remember though, I
don't even know, like this is

1595
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,640
not like a like a cop out
for them. They would still get the

1596
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:01,560
ding. I just don't even remember
if he was in the room when he

1597
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:06,279
physically like passed away quotation marks Magneto, so he like went to the washroom

1598
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:12,079
and he came back. I'm just
taking his mind, and Magus is just

1599
01:44:12,199 --> 01:44:17,039
like you, just like a boy
comes back from the bathroom jubilee. Get

1600
01:44:17,119 --> 01:44:19,880
in there, like in the middle
of this really emotional suit. You're not

1601
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:24,600
an X Men yet, right,
get in there. They tell you,

1602
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,359
like if he sees that ship outside
like things, oh they're coming here,

1603
01:44:31,319 --> 01:44:35,560
destroys along. She did look like
she had a fully metal suit now,

1604
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:39,880
so I feel like he could have
destroyed her if he wanted to. Just

1605
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,920
Charles, no one will take it
from me again. No, it's disappointing.

1606
01:44:46,079 --> 01:44:49,960
It's like I said, I still
preferred over episodes as just like imagine

1607
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:54,760
if the series just ended like with
the Mister Sinister episode, like Batman does

1608
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,520
that, Spider Man does that where
they just end on a random episode.

1609
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,319
He goes, oh that sucks.
So I like that. There is kind

1610
01:44:59,319 --> 01:45:01,039
of like a full serve and you
kind of go, okay, it's rush.

1611
01:45:01,119 --> 01:45:05,680
But Magneto turns good. Xavier says
by them as he dies or passes

1612
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:09,880
on to another body or something.
And this is the X Men. Now

1613
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,720
they've gone through a lot of these
five years and they can lead the team.

1614
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,600
So I think it gets the job
done. It's not like a perfect

1615
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:21,399
job, but it's like it still
like gets like a like a semi pass

1616
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,680
I don't even know, like it's
I don't know where I am on the

1617
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:28,840
thumb scale. So I enjoyed that
aspect, but overall, maybe a couple

1618
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:34,960
parts could have helped iron out some
of the kinks here. But I really

1619
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:39,119
don't have much else, honestly,
because I don't feel like the Magneto villain

1620
01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:42,800
stuff is really fleshed out very much, so there isn't really much to break

1621
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,920
down there for me. And then
really like the character stuff is all just

1622
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,359
that one deathbed scene for me.
Yeah, the only two things I want

1623
01:45:48,399 --> 01:45:50,840
to talk about was the audio was
really bad in this episode two. It

1624
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,680
just felt like stikes with the recording
booth. Something else was going on,

1625
01:45:56,239 --> 01:45:58,960
and we touched upon it a little
bit. But I'll just reiterate here.

1626
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,079
I maybe I never thought about it. I guess because he's just appears to

1627
01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:05,319
be a normal dude, even though
Gyrec's like, look, even a normal

1628
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:09,640
man could be a mutant. I
was just so flabbergasted when they're like,

1629
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,640
exavior is a mutant. I was
I thought this was common knowledge, and

1630
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,680
I guess you still could be a
human that brings in people and have a

1631
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,680
school munees. I just thought by
now people probably would have figured it out.

1632
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:24,199
I feel like he's ventured out enough. So it was as his wheelchair

1633
01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:28,960
is like a hovercraw Yeah, that's
magic right there. Like yeah, so

1634
01:46:29,279 --> 01:46:32,079
it was very It was an odd
thing that I still don't think they needed

1635
01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:35,079
in the long run, because you
could just say he was the leader of

1636
01:46:35,119 --> 01:46:39,039
the good Munes and he got they
tried to assassinate him, so other Munites

1637
01:46:39,039 --> 01:46:41,479
were pissed about that, like you
didn't need to have this reveal, like,

1638
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:46,199
oh my god, Xavier the Mutant
Defenders also a mutant like odds.

1639
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:50,079
I feel like there's gotta be a
counter argument to that somewhere in the show

1640
01:46:50,159 --> 01:46:54,359
where like it was proven otherwise we
can't pull it off the top of my

1641
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,359
head. But let's let's start the
retro over again. Just look out for

1642
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,880
that quickly. Yeah, let's just
pull it up circle back. How could

1643
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:04,760
they pinpoint exactly that it was him? I mean, you can't like see

1644
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,840
like the brain waves coming out of
his head, like you just see he'd

1645
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,319
be on the ground. He does
do this a lot. Yeah, but

1646
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:15,039
he just got he just got like
like sheaved or shaved whatever you want to

1647
01:47:15,039 --> 01:47:17,600
call it with the electrical thing,
right, So I don't think it's shame

1648
01:47:19,239 --> 01:47:26,159
storm. I need a shave.
He's on the growd and he's just he's

1649
01:47:26,239 --> 01:47:28,560
not doing good. But immediately the
guy's like, oh, you're a fucking

1650
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,600
mudant. Well his point that because
his brain waves things pop off and they

1651
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:35,359
mess with the crowd. Yeah,
but that could have been fucking anyone in

1652
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:40,079
the crowd, Like he just immediately
just like yeah, I guess they just

1653
01:47:40,159 --> 01:47:43,319
assumed that, like maybe you can
kind of see the headwave things. But

1654
01:47:44,159 --> 01:47:45,840
they're all pretty fucking dumb for not
figuring out. By this point, it's

1655
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,720
been at least five years and they
didn't maybe not five years and show,

1656
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:53,199
but five seasons and none of them
like had the idea that Xavier could be

1657
01:47:53,239 --> 01:47:59,239
a mutant. I don't know,
odd shocking, yeah, anything else,

1658
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:06,880
mm hmmm. I'll give it half
thumb, Like I want to get one,

1659
01:48:08,039 --> 01:48:12,840
but like just the half. I
like, I want to go slightly

1660
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,600
down, but even even one thumb
down feels too strong. So I'm gonna

1661
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:21,800
go like I'm gonna go like a
forty nine degree thumb there doing your beautiful

1662
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:30,119
thumbs miss those. I think I'm
gonna go thumb down. Yeah, frost

1663
01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:38,600
thrust. Let's get her up there
for the final time too, just like

1664
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:42,000
the emotion on her face, like
it's just wait, you gotta come a

1665
01:48:42,079 --> 01:48:45,800
fantastic show. You'll be able to
drop those thumbs on ninety seven, Right,

1666
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:46,640
we'll bring back the thumb scale for
that. We don't go out for

1667
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,199
the other Yeah, I guess we
may as well do it for the X

1668
01:48:49,279 --> 01:48:53,560
Men, you know. So it's
been a wonderful ride. But to end

1669
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,640
it this way, I mean,
like I said already, like it's just

1670
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:00,880
this, this whole season has kind
of been like repping me for what to

1671
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,359
expect for this for this finale.
So it's not a big big shock there.

1672
01:49:04,319 --> 01:49:09,079
But overall, I've love I love
the show throughout, through and through

1673
01:49:09,239 --> 01:49:14,199
as as someone would say true and
true true. So it's been it's been

1674
01:49:14,199 --> 01:49:15,159
a hell of a ride. And
yeah, I can't wait for ninety seven.

1675
01:49:15,239 --> 01:49:18,039
But for this finale, I'm I'm
gonna fail it. It's just it

1676
01:49:18,079 --> 01:49:21,000
didn't didn't deliver what it should have. At least it's like ninety seven,

1677
01:49:21,079 --> 01:49:25,119
like you can't get any worse than
well, you could have guessed, but

1678
01:49:25,199 --> 01:49:28,840
like, like, I feel like
it's a good I feel like the expectations

1679
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,600
are high but low, you know, like you can start off solid even

1680
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:35,000
if it's season one quality, you
know. But i'd say, Taylor,

1681
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:39,119
before you go, don't what we
were over thoughts on this whole whole watch.

1682
01:49:39,239 --> 01:49:42,640
We talked about this doing this for
a long time. The revival happened,

1683
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,199
so we did it. It was
long journey, lots of put in.

1684
01:49:45,359 --> 01:49:48,960
But yeah, I think there's some
surprises for sure, Like I feel

1685
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,800
like Mike Neo was in this a
lot less than I was expecting, especially

1686
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:57,199
like that's that the title credits,
like the opening credits, like that never

1687
01:49:57,359 --> 01:50:00,960
happens, like that team up of
characters, which is something I was really

1688
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,039
looking forward to. And I wanted
to see more of Magneto and like him

1689
01:50:03,079 --> 01:50:06,079
building up his team and that being
a thing. So yeah, I guess

1690
01:50:06,119 --> 01:50:09,199
it was just a lot different than
I was expecting. And I also got

1691
01:50:09,239 --> 01:50:12,359
to learn a lot about tons of
X Men villains I never like, mister

1692
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,520
Sinister is a character I didn't really
know about before this either, right,

1693
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:19,399
So yeah, I I feel like
my impression rate off the bat is I

1694
01:50:19,399 --> 01:50:24,880
would say I liked the Spider Man
show more, but that's also been so

1695
01:50:25,039 --> 01:50:28,199
long ago now that like, I
can't really remember exactly how I felt in

1696
01:50:28,279 --> 01:50:30,159
those moments. But either way,
this is a really fun journey to get

1697
01:50:30,199 --> 01:50:33,279
to do with all four of us
here, so that also raises the show

1698
01:50:33,359 --> 01:50:36,560
up a lot more than maybe otherwise. But yeah, I don't think it's

1699
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:39,920
like an all time great show for
me, but it was a fun time

1700
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,760
to go through. I'm glad we
did it. Ty your Field. You're

1701
01:50:43,039 --> 01:50:45,600
rating on the finale, thoughts on
the finale, and thoughts on the show

1702
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,039
as a guy who was not a
big X Men person, you know,

1703
01:50:48,359 --> 01:50:53,279
Yeah, So, I mean my
rating on the finale, I'm gonna give

1704
01:50:53,279 --> 01:50:57,840
it just one of these, just
one the thumb finger point A thumb finger

1705
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:02,079
point, Yeah, little magniedo sum
fingerpoint. I like the finale, I'll

1706
01:51:02,279 --> 01:51:05,239
again, my con is the fact
that it was really rushed. That's really

1707
01:51:05,279 --> 01:51:10,359
the only con I had in retrospect
after we've discussed but everything that Xavier is

1708
01:51:10,399 --> 01:51:15,920
saying, he's fucking weird. Yeah, but uh yeah, though the whole

1709
01:51:15,039 --> 01:51:20,319
experience was was really really interesting going
into the show, going into the show

1710
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:26,079
with you guys, I was.
I was eager and intrigued to learn about

1711
01:51:26,119 --> 01:51:30,640
these characters, but I definitely didn't
have that huge level of excitement because I

1712
01:51:30,079 --> 01:51:33,760
felt pretty confident, like, oh
yeah, X Men, like I just

1713
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:38,159
I was not interested in them.
I realized now, hence my nickname mute

1714
01:51:38,319 --> 01:51:40,680
X. That was actually my mutant
show that I was into back in the

1715
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,439
day, which I learned actually was
affiliated somehow, very very loosely remotely with

1716
01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:50,119
X Men somehow. But I used
to love mutin X No retro, no

1717
01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:54,680
retro do what you know. I
hope in the future there's other X Men

1718
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,960
shows like X Men and the Wolverine
X Men Evolution would be the Evolution Tier

1719
01:51:58,039 --> 01:52:00,439
one Evolution some good ship too,
but they just if not it's on American

1720
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:04,359
Disney. Plus it's not here.
It's just so it's so annoying. But

1721
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:10,319
that one's like when everybody's Scott Jean
Rogue. They're all teenagers, they're all

1722
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,880
in school, and yeah, there's
a lot of students there and stuff,

1723
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,279
and mag Neil has a kind of
a man's voice by Clancy Brown on that

1724
01:52:16,399 --> 01:52:23,600
one. You know, maybe one
day, one day, but yeah,

1725
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:28,039
just this this show has really been
a great experience to learn more about these

1726
01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:31,960
characters and learn more about other new
characters. It's it's definitely got You're super

1727
01:52:32,039 --> 01:52:35,560
super stoked for hopefully what is going
to be the next step in the MCU

1728
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:40,279
whenever we finally get there, and
they really indulge in this, and I

1729
01:52:40,319 --> 01:52:44,359
think that this timing wise is great. As soon as we watched Miss Marvel

1730
01:52:44,399 --> 01:52:46,880
and they just kind of like at
the end with the Kamala Khana just worked

1731
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:53,159
out really really well. So yeah, just I'm never gonna forget bone Breaker

1732
01:52:53,199 --> 01:52:59,520
hopefully. Oh yeah, memories he
was he was really good these pictures too,

1733
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:09,720
Like, oh my goodness, technical
whiz kid that guy. Yeah,

1734
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:13,840
so I'm I'm I'm really really happy
that we we went through this whole this

1735
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,359
whole five season and he said it
was a thumb up on this finale.

1736
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:23,720
The finale is a yeah, one
thumb up. Yeah right, all right,

1737
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:27,800
I forgot the main needle for I
forgot him. Yeah, No,

1738
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,000
this was done fun. Gave my
rating, but yeah, it was a

1739
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:32,680
it was a good time. I'm
glad. There's a reason why we've only

1740
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:38,279
done this Clone Wars and Spider Man
because they the TV retros. They take

1741
01:53:38,279 --> 01:53:42,239
a long time it's a lot of
episodes and rebels. Yeah, we did

1742
01:53:42,319 --> 01:53:44,880
do rebels. That was like a
like a shortened version, but still that

1743
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:45,920
was a lot of working because it's
like, again, that's why I think

1744
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,840
anyone will listen, because people do
listen, but they're much more of a

1745
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:54,039
like a you know, specific audience. But this was good because I think

1746
01:53:54,079 --> 01:53:57,359
it was also just fun because now
like when that's why I think we're gonna

1747
01:53:57,359 --> 01:54:00,119
do heads for the patrons. We'll
do some like fan cast, like we

1748
01:54:00,159 --> 01:54:02,079
can do like a sinister fan cast
and you guys don't have to just go

1749
01:54:02,199 --> 01:54:05,199
off a picture like I think that
was fun of like I don't know everything,

1750
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:09,239
but just getting to see you guys
see certain cares like oh, that

1751
01:54:09,319 --> 01:54:12,000
was tons of fun. And just
like the classic memes, we kind of

1752
01:54:12,039 --> 01:54:14,600
crate along the way like a bone
breaker and uh, yeah, this is

1753
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,239
a good time. I'm excited that
Taylor's actually excited freksman now because he'd always

1754
01:54:17,239 --> 01:54:19,640
skip those reviews. Those weren't really
for him. So I think when the

1755
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:24,079
mcux men pop off, like it's
gonna be a good time. And this

1756
01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:28,159
was good too, because like it's
weird that when you watch a show,

1757
01:54:28,279 --> 01:54:30,720
your whole life, and then when
you watch it this way, it just

1758
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,119
feels like you've watched it, like
really wash it because you have to talk

1759
01:54:33,159 --> 01:54:36,359
about it and you're taking notes.
There's stuff where it's just like I've forgotten

1760
01:54:36,359 --> 01:54:40,199
about where now I don't feel like
I will forget because when I think about

1761
01:54:40,199 --> 01:54:41,960
an episode, like, oh,
we et to talk about this in a

1762
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,920
positive negative light. So it just
kind of feels like even though I've seen

1763
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:46,840
this show, I don't know,
dozens of times, it's just like,

1764
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:50,880
okay, like I've completed it.
I'm just really hoping ninety seven is just

1765
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:55,680
like some really good good stuff.
I don't need to be like the best

1766
01:54:56,039 --> 01:54:59,640
thing Marvel series has done, but
I'm excited to review that weekly with you

1767
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,720
guys. And no, this was
a ton tons of fun. And yeah,

1768
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,920
thank you everyone that tuned in.
Thank you to everybody that will hopefully

1769
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:10,119
tune in for ninety seven and for
other X Men content we do, and

1770
01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:15,960
I promise you it'll not be boring. Bye. That's it