You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio
in the UK and around the world. Good evening, everyone, I'm Robert
Lindsay Mill and welcome to the twenty first episode of My Side of the Crystal
Ball and tonight we're going in a very different direction than the last twenty of
our episodes. My guest tonight, Preston Dennett, UFO expert researcher in the
paranormal, has had contact with or connections to aliens, has met interviewed hundreds
of people that have had UFO experiences, and Preston is also the author of
twenty nine books on the subject. Several of us books also have been best
sellers on Amazon. Before we get started and just before WWRS comes on,
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show with ww r S we see the world not has how it is,
but how we are. We always see things from our own point of view.
Can you imagine? Please imagine, every other living being in this entire
universe has a different point of view than you do than I do. We
see things differently because we have a different perspective. Most everybody believes their perspective
is the right one or the correct one. And that's also important to remember.
And when we're communicating with people, and we humans are pack animals and
we do communicate, the way we can understand our communication is recognizing our communication
is based on three three points of view. The first one is that we
communicate by nonverbal, unconscious communication, and that's called body language. The next
level of communication is the tone of voice that we use. And the third
way we communicate are the words that we say, hang on to your chat.
Seventy five percent of our communication is unconscious nonverbal communication called body language,
both from the way our body is and also our micro expressions as well.
They're uncontrollable. So the way we communicate, seventy five of what we're saying
or what we're expressing is our body language. Twenty percent of our communication is
the tone of voice that we use, the way we would say something,
how we sound, and the third way of communicating are the words that we
use. In the words that we use comprise of five percent of our communication.
So for us to communicate clearly and with greatest awareness would be to communicated
person. We see the person in front of us, we speak, you
can hear the tone of voice and you hear the words. When we eliminate
the imperson experience, we then are relying on our tone of voice and then
the words. And when we're relying on a text message, just the words.
All we're seeing is five percent of what's being expressed. Twenty percent is
the tone of voice, and then five percent is are the words we use.
When we get a text, an email, a letter, regardless of
what it is, whether it's on your computer, whether it's on a piece
of paper, regardless when you're reading it, you're only seeing five percent or
sensing five percent of what's being expressed. The rest of it is what's going
on inside you. For example, if you get a letter and you read
it and somehow you get really angry and infuriated, not that that's ever happened
with me, and you know, you just pushed the letter aside. A
couple of days later, you come across that letter and look at it and
you think, oh, that's not quite the way I remember it, or
I have a different feeling about that. And that's the same about a text
that we could get from somebody. We would read it and get really annoyed
or get really joyous, and then reread it later and get a whole different
sense from it. And that's because we project on those letters the way we
are inside. So we see the world not as how it is, but
how we are. And that's what Robert has to say today. Preston Dennett
began investigating UFOs in the paranormal in nineteen eighty six when he discovered his family,
friends, and co workers were having dramatic, unexplained encounters. Since then,
he has interviewed hundreds of witnesses and investigated a wide variety of parent a
normal phenomenon. He is a field investigator for the Mutual UFO Network, a
ghost hunter, a paranormal researcher, and the author of twenty nine books and
more than a hundred articles on UFOs and the paranormal. Several of his books
have been Amazon UFO bestsellers. He's appeared on numerous radio and TV shows,
including Midnight in the Desert with Art Belt, Coast to Coast and also History
Channels, Deep Sea UFOs and UFOs UFO Hunters. This is a guy that
knows what he's going to be talking about. Is an expert. Preston Dennett
is our guest tonight, sitting in the expert's chair. Preston, Welcome to
my side of the crystal ball. I've been looking forward to our conversation today.
Yeah, thank you, Robert, me too. Thanks for having me
on. I appreciate it. You have studied and become an expert in in
a field. I know very little about you, being an author of at
least twenty eight books and some best sellers on Amazon. Congratulations. What brought
you to become interested in the paranormal and specifically UFOs. Yeah, it was
quite a left turn into the twilight zone for me because it was not something.
Yeah, I was not looking for it. I had zero interest in
UFOs or the paranormal or life after death goes to any of it. I
thought it was all nonsense. Honestly, I was very skeptical, very scientifically
minded, and heard a report on the news. This was November seventeen,
nineteen eighty six, and it was the evening News and we're all just sitting
around, you know, watching Tom Brokaw or Dan Rather or one of these
guys, main main newscaster, and he starts talking about a pilot over Alaska
who had seen a UFO showed his picture and the newscatter was like, oh,
this pilot he thinks he saw UFO. Have you ever seen one?
Jane? And she's like, no, I haven't. They giggled nervously and
joked about it and moved on. But I remember thinking, this poor pilot,
you know, he's probably thrown his career away. Why would he say
something like this that this makes zero sense. I thought he was hallucinating or
lying, But it interested me enough to ask people because my brother some years
earlier, my older brother Mark said he'd seen one, and I didn't believe
him, of course, But now I asked him and he's like, oh,
yeah, yeah with Bill and Gregg my friends, you know them,
right, I'm like, yeah, of course, So, yeah, how
three of us saw it. It was a metallic disc colored light signed a
dome, was totally silent and off it moved. Have you had the experience
of seeing a UFO? I have, absolutely, yeah, you know.
After I found out my brother had seen one, I started asking everybody found
out, Well, my sister in law had she saw ets aliens face to
face people at Worth. Do they look like us? Some do, absolutely,
just like us. Some are what we would call grays. They're very
popular in the media, you know, large heads, big dark eyes,
no hair. I've never seen one of them. I've heard of grays,
but I've never seen or even even a picture of a gray or what they're
like. Yeah, they're generally described as quite short, you know, three
to five feet, wearing jumpsuits, often no hair on their head, very
large eyes, very pale skin. And yeah. My sister in law finally
opened up about that, knocked me to the ground, like you're kidding,
and she's like, no, this is what I saw. I don't know
what it was, because you know, this wasn't in the media at the
time really at all. Sure where where did she see or have you seen
the gray or or just your sister in lawn and other people? Yeah,
no, I haven't. You know. After interviewing her, she had a
sighting outside her home late at night and started finding out all of these people
I knew had had encounters. I was very upsetting. I was almost scandalized.
I'm like, why isn't this being taught in school? Are you telling
me the truth? You know? How can you? How come you didn't
tell me this? And I found out this is a real subject. It's
been studied for decades. The evidence is mountainous. I mean it's fairly conclusive
at this point, very compelling. And I'm like, well, you know,
this is when I started interviewing people and I read all the books,
I joined every organization I could find, but I wanted to see it myself,
Like this is not enough for me. How I believe you? I'm
so excited about this, I just have to go back. What kind of
UFOs um or aliens? Are the grays? Are they? The good guys?
Are they the bad guys or are they in between like their coloring.
Well, it depends on who you talk to, because each person's experience is
individual. And I will say there's a lot of fear surrounding this subject.
Yeah, ufhone encounters in general because it's different and you know, we're almost
our society is very fear based, and anyone who looks a little different,
you know, she tend to like have a strong fear reaction. But they're
people. They are people very much like us, more like us than not.
And it took me a while to come around to this because there's not
only a lot of fear, there's disinformation and misinformation and a cover up,
a government cover up, no joke, This is demonstrable, It's absolutely provable.
We are not being told the truth by our own governments on the subject.
They are lying to us that. Yeah, I couldn't tell you in
the beginning. I'm like why because I was very naive coming into this and
I thought people told the truth and realized no, there are a lot of
layers out there and corruption in government, and yeah, I think there are
several driving forces behind the UFO cover up. One is I think, bottom
line, you know, power and greed money. This is a subject.
I mean, you may have heard of the Roswell Ufo crash um that is
real. There are several hundred we witnesses who have testified and it's not the
only one. Our government does have these craft in their possession. Governments across
the world do and heart et technology. So this is one of the reasons
behind the cover up because they're not about to release it. This would destroy
the economy, which is very much oil based. So and if we have
free energy, I'll say this is a subject where they don't. These craft
are advanced. These ets are flying circles around our most advanced craft. So
from a military standpoint, they are clearly reluctant to reveal this because they cannot
control it. And maybe some countries or people on our planet don't have the
maturity to have those weapons or that technology. Yeah, we have a very
long history of abusing technology and using you know, whatever we have for destruction
in the war. So where do they come from? A million dollar question,
and that has not an easy question to answer. I couldn't give you
a check. Well I'll accept a check, but I'm not sure. Well,
you know, there is some indications where they come from. There's people
who talk about them being time travelers and interdimensional beings and this sort of thing,
which is a very vague, nondescript, not really helpful answer. And
people have asked these ets who have been contacted by them, where are you
from? And their answers are often coy and evasive, and they will say
stuff like it's not important, or we will come from a place you don't
know about yet. But there are cases. There's the Betty and Barney Hill
case, which took place in nineteen sixty one, is perhaps the most famous
case ever. Didn't didn't they get abducted by aliens? Yes? And they
were shown a star map and the ets basically revealed that they came from the
Zeta Reticulous star system, and that does turn up in other cases. More
often the Orion system comes up. But generally speaking, we don't know.
I think it's pretty clear if you look at the totality of the evidence,
and by that I mean the you know, the photographs, moving films of
metallic craft, portholes, the cases involving radar returns, so we're no,
we're dealing with solid craft because they land on the ground and we'll leave burn
marks or crush ground or swirled grass. So we're dealing with vehicles with a
propulsion system. And for that matter, people who are taken on board are
not in their homes when people are looking for them, and they come back
and they're perhaps healed of an illness, or have a scoop mark, or
even an implant in their body, which in some cases has been removed and
studied. So my point is this is a physical phenomena. These are biological
beings, and by all accounts that come from other planets. They are very
much like us. We live on a planet where biological beings. You go
outside and look at the stars, and pretty much every astronomer and scientists agrees
that could not possibly be the only life form in this universe. So yeah,
it's pretty clear that that's where they come from his other planets. Can
we just go back to something that you said, um you you mentioned people
get it have been abducted. Some have been abducted and had healing. Some
have been abducted and been what they are examined? Is that? Is that
right? And and then some some have been um implanted. What do they
get healed from? And and Is it the same group of aliens that do
the healing as the ones that do the planting of implants. No, No,
there's many different types of ets. I think grays as we previously describe
them, are probably one of the most common. There's human looking ets ones
it look pretty much exactly like us. Another common type which is quite strange
to me, but it is what it is. It is praying mantis type
ets, which are tall humanoid, sort of insectoid looking figures, but they
have arms and legs, you know, ahead, eyes, nose, mouth.
They're all humanoid, strange humanoids of all types, and they all do
these healings. Actually did pioneering work in this. I wrote the first book
on UFO healing cases really yeah, because I was shocked coming into this field
and hearing everyone described this as being bad for us, no, scary,
and like, are they experimenting on us? What are they doing? And
if you objectively look at what happens to a person when they are taken on
board, when they have what happens it's a very straightforward sequence of events,
and this is verified by pretty much every major researcher out there will tell you
this is what happens. Okay, And the first thing ets will say is
don't be afraid. We won't hurt you. That is the most common phrase
period, hands down. And they will often pull people into a craft which
is usually described as a rounded room with indirect lighting and very clean, and
they're physically examined. This is the single most common thing that happens to people.
And this is when the healings are done and they are healed of And
I've had three hundred documented cases, so pretty much up and down the board,
you name it, people have been healed of it from everything cuts and
bruises to stomach aches, back aches, liver, kidney disease, heart disease,
can't serve certainly aids. I mean it is up and down, hepatitis,
detached retina, I mean, you name it. Would the reason them
are we humans get abducted is to be healed or are they doing research?
And the healing is an ad on It's one of their primary agendas. It
is for sure. There are multiple agendas, and I think we've got a
good handle on it. And I can tell you every major researcher out there,
and there are a lot of them, John mac but Hopkins, David
Jacobs, e Did Fury, Barbara Lamb, I could go on, all
have reports of healings, and that is definitely I think one of the primary
reasons behind the examination. So they do collect genetic material as well. There
is apparently among the grays some genetic damage that they've suffered from radiation due to
space travel, and they are replenishing their DNA with ours, which sounds crazy,
but I got cases like that from the very beginning, and you know
before other major researchers like Bud Hopkins really verified it by getting multiple, multiple
cases. So that is a primary agenda. So when someone's taken on board,
they're physically examined. Often then if they're not giving the amnesia because they're
having such a strong fear reaction, people will have what's called missing time and
they don't remember a lot of what happens, but many people do, and
those who do remember are usually taken to the engine room. But we would
term the engine room and the E t show them here's here's how we fly
our craft. Here's how it's power. We use electromagnetics. It's usually along
the lines of that harnessing the magnetic fields of our planet, anti gravity this
sort of thing, and for a lot of people this is difficult to understand.
So would that would that science project them forward um from there? From
the magnetic pole or or against the magnetic pole of of Earth? Would that
project them across the universe or at least the Solar system? Is that how
it works? That's for traveling interplanetary you know, when you're next to a
planet. Yes, right. As far as traveling between no interstellar distances,
there's a different technique, which is basically they use very high amounts of energy
electricity to open a dimensional doorway, which you know, quantum physics talks quite
a bit about this. It's very interesting because many contacts suddenly develop a very
strong interest in magnetics and quantum physics and astronomy because of the messages they're being
given. So this is how they are traveling, you know, between star
systems. But I think, oh, is there is there travel from from
you know, star to star or or or um solar system to solar system?
Is it instantaneous or or or or is there a long traveling time?
No, it's instantaneous, Okay, virtually it takes minutes I should I would
say, or seconds even depending they don't use propellants like we do. They're
not traveling along at you know, fifty thousand miles per hour something like that
or one hundred thousand or what have you. They are not traveling at light
speed. Even they are traveling interdimensionally, so they pop. Yeah, and
so that is often one of the things that happens to people. And after
that they're often now they're given a tour of the craft basically, which entails
going up to the observation deck and they have yeah this and I hear this
all the time from you. Do they take volunteers like to be doctored or
are there is there is there like a volunteer list. I'd really like to
have a ride. Um. Well, they contact an enormous number of people,
and I think one a person reaches as a certain level of spiritual evolution.
They are contacted at some point, and it depends how open they are
to it and transcender, you know, ability to you know, process the
experience, whether or not they will remember it. Yeah. So, according
to many of the contacts I've talked to, the ETS have told them,
we're aware of all of you. We've contacted most of you at some levels
some it's just telepathic. Often they will just show themselves as a you know,
a sighting, a simple sighting to announce their presence. They've ramped up
contact over the years, so more and more people have seen them, and
they do have I mean, there are certain patterns as to who's contacted and
why. They do seem to follow certain genetic lines, certain families who are
exhibiting the best of human genetics, you might say, in terms of health
and longevity and psychic abilities and compassion and you know, the best of humanity
has to offer. They're very, very interested in people who are doctors and
teachers and artists and musicians and inventors and scientists. And that was something I
learned later on because I'm trying to figure out who's been contacted. It's evenly
divided between men and women. It's people all over the world. It has
no bearing on your race or or I'll run race, your ethnicity, I
should say, your religion, your political affiliation, your education, even No,
it's basically they're contacting people of all types. And if you're really psychic,
they love that, so that may interest you. It's not just a
random, oh that one. It's usually they've done research, or they know
about that one that they connect with. It depends. I think sometimes they
look at a person like, well, this person is fine, that they
don't need to be contacted. They've already woken up. Because another major agenda
is to wake people up to their psychic abilities. So what we see is
people who have had contact will suddenly exhibit you know, an awakening, a
profound spiritual awakening in which they start having regular out of body experiences, start
having a lot of precognition, you know, claire voyance, clare sentsience dreams
that come true. Channeling, psychic reading, healing is very pronounced, even
all the way up to physical human levitation. I mean, really a amazing
and these are of course as sure, you know, natural human abilities.
We all have them. It's just a matter of you know, exercising that
muscle and developing it and meditating. That is a huge part of their agenda,
and so they will contact people to in effect wake them up. And
we see this among contactees as a general rule. Their mediums, they are
psychic readers, they are astral travelers. My fantasy job would beat to would
would be ships counselor on on the enterprise or a reasonable fac Similarly, that
would be my dream job, and my dream experience would be to meet um
Um the tele pout and trying to remember um Deanna try and she was a
I can't remember that ethnicity anyway. I would really like to be someone like
that and learn how to do their ways of mental celepathy. So my dream
job would be ship's counselor, and my dream experience would be to meet a
beta void and take psychic lessons from lamp. So yeah, me too,
Yeah you'd like that one O both Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
that would be awesome. But yeah. People who have contact work with them
in various capacities. Some learn how to fly the craft, some work on
the arboretums or with animals, Some assist in physically examining people and healing them,
and many are just basically getting regular checkups. And another major agenda among
the ETS is trying to educate us. And when someone's taken on board and
they get any menage at all beyond don't be afraid we won't hurt you.
It is warnings about nuclear proliferation number one, warnings about our tendency to pollute
our error and water and resources. That is the number one message. Warnings
about our warlike ways, our aggressions and divisiveness, warnings about against corruption and
greed, over and over and over again, no matter what type of et
this is the message people are getting. And this is and this is why
I think this is great news for humanity. Do not believe government sources who
say that they are here to take over. They are not. They have
been here longer than we have for millennia. They are extremely advanced technologically and
spiritually, ethically and morally. They are not here to take over. They
are here to teach, to guide, to help. They're not going to
solve all our problems. People have asked, like, why don't you just
land You know, we've got big problems here, Like, it's up to
you. You have free will, you are autonomous beings. This is the
message people get. You must solve your own problems. And I think that's
why. If they were to give us their healing technology, what do you
think we would do with it? Turn it into a weapon. Yeah,
be used by the military, and they would put soldiers on the field,
they'd get all torn up, they'd pull them back, heal them up and
send them out again. I mean, that's what we're doing now with the
technology we have. Every time we get a new technology, what do we
do with it? We abuse it. I mean, we're getting better.
Humanity is grown up fast. So I'm very encouraged, right heard. I
can't remember who told me this. Someone mentioned to me they were interested in
your subject. UM said that, um, we humans were a genetic experiment.
Something went wrong with the experiment, and we weren't supposed to be so
violent and so angry and so warlike, and um it was like a mistake
in the in the test tube or something. M is, have you heard
any any ideas or thoughts around that area or that comment? Oh? Well,
yes, and no, we're not an experiment. First and foremost.
UM, anyone who's contacted by us has given the message, you know,
we are you, You are us, we are one. There's a very
little Yes, you have reptilians or the um um not to grasp real.
Yeah, we're all. We all come from source. You know, we
are all part of this universe, in indivisible, integral part, and we
all have genetics. We are all humanoid. There is the separation that people
like to put between you know, here on Earth even because perhaps skin color
or hair color or what have you is just not true. We are all
one. This is the main message that et s give will. Certainly one
of them, I should say, they are absolutely, They say we are
your progenitors. We're not an experiment. No. But at some point,
you know, things have gone wrong south because the fact that we have free
will means that they can only intervene to a certain extent, and we have
spiraled down into ignorance and violence. There was a time, you know,
when we were a much more peaceful species, but that is not what's happening
now. We have lost touch with our heritage. People used to be able
to go out of body and remember that we are eternal beings connected to source.
How did that happen? How did we go in that direction, we
as a universal or we humans? How did that happen? It's not entirely
clear. I've talked to some contact teas who are have really extensive contact when
my latest book, Symmetry is about a lady by the name of Dolly Saffron.
She was a fully conscious contact tea and has worked with the ets her
whole life. Wow, And they told her that humanity used to be a
telepathic race, and at some point we lost that and we divided up into
tribes, and we divided up into different languages, and there was a lot
of miscommunication. And this is when corruption agreed started to creep in because you
know, survival was such a big deal, and it just got worse and
worse, and people lost touch with the fact that we don't die. Death
is a lie. There is life after death, and fear really started to
guide people's actions and their entire lives. It became the motivating forts and humanity,
and that is you know, happened many thousands of years ago and we've
been battling our way through it, through the dark ages, and thankfully we're
you know, there was an age of enlightenment and you know, now we're
the information age and things are improving, but we're still a very warlike,
aggressive species. That's why they come down and are educating people and trying to
wake them up psychically, because a person who is profoundly psychic there they can
basically you can't lie to them. You know, greed will become a thing
of the past if we all realize that we are all one. So that
is really the big push and why I think contact is escalated since the atomic
age. If you look back through history, UFOs we're not really a thing.
They've certainly work did exist. I mean we have proof of this and
petroglyphs and Middle Age wood carvings. The Romans called them flying shields. I
mean, we know UFOs have been around forever. They're you know, in
hieroglyphs learning ancient India culture. But there wasn't open widespread contact until we start
exploding nuclear bombs and killing people in large numbers. I was about to ask
you, would the uf sorry the aliens interfere if say Prutin decided to shoot
nuclear weapons at some country and the rest of the world would fireback, would
they interfere or prevent that from happening. I think it's a possibility, but
I don't think we should count on it. They did not interfere when it
came to you know, Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and I asked, you know,
contacts about that, and they were told that you have to learn your
lesson. If we were to just stop it, you would continue your bad
behavior. You need to learn and even if it's the hard way, this
is your karma. And in fact. You know a lot of people are
healed, but not everyone is healed right, And people have asked about that,
like why didn't you heal me? And they said, this is a
karmic lesson you. We can't heal everything. There's some things we can assist
you with, but some things you have to learn your lesson. That is
why you are here. Um, they didn't interfere with that Russian nuclear accident.
What's it called Chernobyl or Fukushima. However, UFOs we're seeing over the
area of Fukushima three mile Island were they noticed over there too? They sure
were. I think sometimes according to some of the contacteas they have prevented a
number of nuclear incidents real that we do not know about. So I think
there is definitely potential for that because we do see them hovering over anything nuclear
related. There was a very famous incident in nineteen sixty seven at Malmstrom Air
Force Space in Montana where they shut down, rendered inoperable our nuclear tipped intercontinental
ballistic missiles. Wow. Really and they didn't, Yes, this is very
well known, very well verified. I talked to a witness myself, and
they didn't take them. They didn't, you know, break them. They
just basically did a demonstration like we can shut these down, and for a
day they did it, they were pulled back online. So I don't think
this was a hostile act by any means. I think it was just a
little slap on the wrist saying what are you doing? Why are you messing
around with something that will destroy not only other countries but yourself, your entire
planet. And so they will hover over nuclear power stations. There was a
I think it's called Indian Point in upstate New York. They hovered over this
one nuclear reactor and that really concerned, of course, all the officials.
And after examining the reactor they realized that this had had a huge fault in
it. And the speculation is this UFO is warning officials, you know,
the plant officials, that this reactor was on the verge of causing a real
problem. So, yeah, we see them over anything nuclear. They're very,
very concerned about that. And I think if there were to be a
nuclear incident that would threaten, in terms of an existential crisis, all of
humanity, I think, yeah, they might very well step in, But
then again they might not because they understand unlike a lot of humanity, that
death is just a doorway. You know, dying is not a bad thing.
You moved to a very wonderful realm of bite and love and healing.
It's a very healing experience. And if people have to go through that to
learn, well, so be it. And we can always reincarnate on another
planet, or if this world is rendered inhabitable, that's that could happen.
But then again, they some people haven't told oh, yes, we will
intervene in the event of an existential crisis. So I don't know. It
can go both ways. Again, I don't think we should. We have
to solve our own problems. The only way to grow up. If every
parent knows you cannot tie your children's shoes for them, they have to learn.
Are there other places besides um nuclear plants and things like that where UFOs
would hang out? Would they be around shopping centers or football fields or anywhere
else? Select on? Yeah, sure, I've done a big study of
this. This is actually one of my specialties. Yeah, fucky guess I
started really look digging in to this because I've been in this field for thirty
five years and fighting patterns. It's just so you were like fun like ten
eight when you started, because you hardly look like you've been doing something for
thirty five years. You look about thirty five. Oh, thank you,
I'm not. I I was twenty when I started. Wow, okay,
so a very young man. Certainly. I'm in my fifties now fifty seven.
I still feel like a little kid. So yeah, I mean,
I've been doing this a very long time, and I found lots of patterns.
One pattern that was well known among the UFO communities. They hover over
anything technological. So we will see them hovering over our military bases and basically
checking up in our technology. They've watched a lot of our rocket launches.
Anytime we're launching a rocket, they are there. I did a huge study
of that, and I found three or four cases where people launch toy rockets,
little toy rockets, and UFOs showed up to investigate. So that is
something they're watching very closely. Another thing, I mean, anything technological prisons.
There's a whole series of sightings over prisons. Very strange. Why why
would they Why were they interested in prisons? I think there's a couple of
reasons. One is some very technological installation with you know, barbed wire and
security devices and thick walls, And I think they're probably curious about our sociology,
like why are these people in cages? You know? Are they is
this how they treat people who are you know, you know, deviating from
social norms. And the fact is we have a very large prison population.
I think it's well over a million in the US, and which would absolutely
speak to the fact that some of these are contacts. And I know of
cases I do, and I've talked to them of people who were taken from
their prison cell onboard UFO, So that could be one of the reasons.
One pattern. So what happened to those prisoners that were taken from their cell
up until the rock the spaceship? Um? Were they like the real bad
guys or were they somebody who was in for fraud or or or mass murder?
Or what type of prisoners were they? Um? Well, the one
that I talked to personally, yes, So the guy was a guy from
Canada who was arrested for marijuana use. Well, we don't go here anymore,
I know, which which I'm thankful about because I don't really agree with
the whole prison system. I understand some people you know, we cannot let
them go around murdering people and so forth. But education is obviously the answer,
and close monitoring and you know, restrictions. But putting them in cages
it's not going to help. It's part of this cancel culture. You can't
cancel a human being that doesn't do What do the aliens do with their um
defective people or population or ones that aren't adjusting properly to send them reincarnated to
the Earth or a similar type of planet. No, no, there's no
death penalty, there are no jails. Um. This is there's not a
lot of information on this. I've gotten this from a few contact eas like
Dolly Saffron and a few others. They are as a general rule, psychic
ets communicate through tepathy period, so everyone knows what everyone's thinking at all times.
You cannot lie, You cannot say I didn't do this. We know
you did, but I yeah. It eliminates crime to a large degree because
there's there are no sex crimes or property crimes. That everyone has enough,
you know, food and supplies and the ability to learn whatever they want or
move in whatever direction they want. So crime as we see it does not
exist. It's just not a thing. Are they carn divorced? Yes,
they eat very much the same as we do. Many contact teas are given
the message, you know, stop eating meat. The meat you have is
not good for you. It's you're pumped full of hormones and antibiotics and it
is room. You know, it's wreaking havoc with your immune system. They're
very big on this. But yes, ets eat, and they eat the
same things we do. Are tents. When I talked to a navy medic,
you know, a trained observer, a great witness, was taken on
board a craft he met praying that his type ets and was very frightened,
too frightened to even turn around and look at them. And he's like,
what do you look alike? And they said, well, you know,
honestly, our pearance does frighten people. And he finally did look around and
saw that they were praying mantis, and he was frightened. But they communicated
with him, and he said, are you going to eat me? And
they said no, no, you watch too many horror movies. We eat
vegetables and fish and chicken. We eat like you two were omnivores. And
this is I think born out in a number of cases where people have gotten
any information at all. There's not a whole lot of information out there.
This field is still very much in its infancy in terms of being recognized and
studied and accepted. But yeah, they are people like us. They have
the same biological functions, the same organ systems. They are not that far
removed from us, even to praying mantis is romanta sires. Yes, yes,
even them. They are. They reproduce, they have emotions, They're
very, very intelligent. The main difference I think between ets and humans is
they are morally and ethically advanced and spiritually advanced, for lack of a better
word. They're very psychically aware. Could we have mistaken ets for angels?
Yes? And I looked into this, and this is very early on.
I started to see connections between paranormal events. So contact teas were saying,
you know, are you interested in my near death experience? Did you know
my house is haunted? Would you like to hear about the time I went
out of body? Did you know I can do psychic reading and mediumship?
And so I started to like really look into all of these things, everything
from multiple personalities to shamanism to demonology and angels, and I think that those
are both real. The evidence for both it's quite compelling. There are many
different what we would call supernatural, paranormal entities or interdimensional or spiritual certainly not
just humans on this planet. However, one lady I talked to in Maine
the Grays told her flat out, oh, who you thought were angels?
Throughout history? Often that was us? And I think that that's true in
a number of cases, because back throughout history, the idea of extraterrestrials beings
on other planets wasn't in the you know, the public mind, wasn't part
of the gestalt. It just wasn't an idea that people had really considered.
So anything like that was often given either an astronomical or a religious interpretation.
So so when they were we misinterpreted them or or called them angels, they
they would some of them would look like um, Homo sapiens um, like
us or or or each and they would appear or could appear and give aid
or service um, and they got called angels and beings from God. Is
that that That's where where it came from. Yeah, every culture has the
tendency to interpret these things in their own culture on site geist. Um so
yeah, so I could actually be having in I'm gonna take us a little
bit personally, so I could actually be encountering aliens thinking that they could have
been a spirit or they could have been an angel type sharing information or help
in an emergency type situation. Is that is that kind of right? Is
that right? Yeah? I mean if someone is experiencing a glowing being coming
into the room. We love labels, you know, we love them and
we want to know like is this, what is this? And I'm not
so sure how helpful labels really are because in effect, we too are extraterrestrials.
We really are to every other being out there. We're et s.
I'm not so sure we evolved on this planet either, honestly, certainly not
in the way mainstream evolution says. Because if you look at the UFO literature,
in all the cases of human looking beings out there, where did they
come from? You know? And the ets have said as much, Oh,
no, you were brought here. We used to live on Mars.
There was a catastrophe there and we had to relocate. And this is gaining
traction in the UFO community because more and more counts are coming out of this.
But yeah, I mean some people have described spirits coming down as being
angelic and it's really, you know, a human being. So we don't
I don't know. I am not by any means an expert on angels,
but according to mainstream you know, religious thinking, angels are something different than
humans. They're people, you know, entities who have not incarnated on earth,
who have a different form and same thing with demonic. They're not human
as we think of it. Right. If you look, and if you
go through all the cultures throughout history, you will see that they have a
variety of supernatural beings, everything from fairies to the gentry, to cobalts to
elves and trolls and gin you know, the Eastern cultures, genies and this
sort of thing, trickster spirits and for that matter, sasquatch and bigfoot.
And people always say, you know, I'd love to meet an alien.
I'm like, well, have you ever encountered a dolphin? Go meet a
dolphin. This is an intelligent species which is very different from you and has
a bigger brain capacity. By all accounts, they are as aware as we
are. Just because they don't use tools does not mean that they cannot reflect
and have higher intelligence as we would think of it sentions. Dogs and cats
are remarkably emotional evolved. They feel guilt, you know, but as if
you have pets, you know, three golden So I'm just saying, we
have all different forms of life all around us at all times, and if
someone wants to meet ets, they can. It's a process of meditating and
reaching out to them and saying I would like to see you. And this
can happen in the dream state. This can happen right in your own living
room, bedroom, in your backyard. It can happen at any time.
They will manifest, It can happen telepathically, It can happen in a wide
variety of ways, honestly, But it's just a matter of reaching out and
meeting them halfway. What does UFOs and drive in movies have in common?
Oh, yes, I'm glad you mentioned that, because I wanted to go
into that just you know, I don't know. A few minutes ago you
usually actually you went, I thought I was. I thought I was,
you know, hitting a log, you know the way you did. Look
glad you brought brought us back there, because there's a type of behavior.
UFOs are generally evasive, you know, they flit around and off they go.
You can't just go outside and see them. Yes, But then on
the other hand, there are incidents like the Phoenix lights in Arizona or thousands
of people saw him, or the Hudson Valley FO wave in upstate New York,
and for that matter, you know several states where they came down in
large numbers and showed themselves to thousands of people. And this happens over and
over again in country to country to country. Huge wave in France nineteen fifty
four, a giant wave in Florida at golf breeze um and Belgium had a
wave in the nineteen nine. It's all over the world. They are showing
themselves off. They're conducting a publicity campaign. And I started looking into this,
I like, where are they doing this? And the first I found,
um, I'll get to drive the theaters in a second. But it
was schoollyards. There's a very yeah, there's a very famous case in Africa
rua Zimbabwe aerial elementary school where UFOs landed on the schoolyard on the playground and
six, yeah, sixty two kids at least at least camp saw them and
ETS and got messages, you know, stopped chopping down the forest, stopped
pouting the water, stopped polluting the air. You're abusing technology. This is
what the ETS told these little kids in nineteen ninety four and rua Zimbabwe who
really had no conception of environmentalism, certainly not at that time. And I'm
like, wow, that's an amazing incident. And it instantly reminded me of
an incident in Melbourne, Australia in nineteen sixty six, where the same thing
happened. UFOs landed next to a high school, Westall High School, and
I'm like, wow, if that happened in Opalaca, Florida in nineteen sixty
seven at Crestview Elementary, I thought, wait, that happened at broad Haven
Elementary School in Wales in nineteen seventy seven. I thought, oh, my
gosh, there's the Hillsdale College incident in nineteen sixty six where UFOs landed next
to the school and the entire student body saw it, all the teachers,
police saw it. And so I dug deep in the literature and I found
over a hundred cases all across Canada, all across the US, all across
South America, all across Europe, England, Russia, Africa, Australia,
New Zealand, everywhere. One hundred cases reaching back to nineteen fifty to the
present day. And these cases are not your average sighting by any means,
which is usually you know, a distant light at night. These are daytime
sightings. They're very low level, they're very long lasting, they're very widely
viewed. Forty fifty one hundred, two hundred, four hundred people in some
cases and in one third. This is what really surprises me and really made
me realize, Okay, this they're doing this on purpose. One third of
the cases involved landings, one third. That's a lot and or humanoids being
seen. So this was a clear publicity campaign to announce their presence in I
think preparation of open official contact. That's speculation, but I believe that's the
direction we're heading. And they did this thing. After I discovered this,
I wrote a book about it, like this is crazy. I've gotten another
fifty cases, by the way, so this is and half our elementary schools.
So they're showing themselves to the youngest kids who are very open minded,
very much unencumbered by cultural interpretations. Most of them have never heard of UFOs,
do not have any fear of something that's different. So it's they're sponges
of knowledge, and it's a great way to bring the belief in this subject
into the masses because these children grow up quickly. And now it's worked.
You know, our younger generation has an almost one hundred percent belief in UFOs.
So and then they're doing the same thing with driving movies. Yeah,
that one. Yeah, I'm writing for that one. Well there's not very
many drive in movies, but but anymore, but day how why did they
hang around the drive in movies? Yeah? You know, this was this
completely escaped the entire UFO community. Nobody was talking about this at all,
even though a number of people have gotten cases. I remember my first one
was very early on. A lady at work, you know where I work,
as you know, doing data entry and bookkeeping, and her name is
Claudia Blasios, and she's like, oh my gosh, you investigate UFOs.
I'm like, yeah, like I saw one at the drive in theater.
You're kidding, I've never heard of that. She described this incredible sighting where
this object came down right next to the screen, below the level of the
top of the screen, in view of hundreds of people, and stayed there
and everybody saw it. I thought, wow, you know, can I
interview you? And she's like, of course. And I put it in
my book and I moved on, thinking, you know, that's got to
be a unique case. And I started doing a lot more research over the
years, and every now and then I'd run into one. I'm like,
huh, there it is again, but didn't think much of it. And
until I was writing UFOs over Colorado, and I've written books about various states
sort of a historical way, because this is an important subject people need to
know. I take it very seriously. And I found three cases in a
row of these objects doing the same darn thing. They come right down over
the theater, targeting it specifically, I'm showing themselves to the audience. They
not only just stay there, they will release smaller craft, they will dart
around. They're like, you want to show, We'll give you a show.
They'll flash their lights at you. Really they are, yes, they
want to be noticed. This is a very brazen behavior. How come we
don't know about this? It was viciously and ruthlessly covered up. And I
tracked this down and I was quite upset. There was a case took place
in Bakersfield, not far from where I live right now, in southern California,
at the terrorist drive him in nineteen fifty two, and there was a
military officer in the audience. Otherwise it probably would have gone completely unrecorded.
But this UFO drop down did its thing, showed off, flashed its lights,
and off it went. And he reported to the local sheriff station,
and Sheriff Leroy Hatfield took the call and his phone started ringing off the hook
from other people who had been there, and he's like, fine, I'm
gonna go down there. There were one hundred people at this theater saying,
oh my gosh, we saw this. Can I give my report? He
took thirty reports. He's like, that's it, go home. I've got
enough. I know what you saw, or I've got the description at least,
and he sent it off to the local Air Force space, which happened
to be Edwards. And Project Blue Book is the Air Force UFO study was
in effect at that time in its fledgling state, and this report was written
up, marked action and sent the next day. So obviously of high priority
to Right Patterson Air Force Space, which is where the US studies all foreign
technology period. This is UFO central. Everyone in the UFO community knows about
Right Patterson. This is where the crashed UFOs are being reversed, engineered,
and studied. And this report which is the new ones recently crashed UFOs.
Oh yeah, that this is something that happens regularly and again is viciously and
ruthlessly covered up. I mean to the point where people have lost their lives
over this. This is just up. Yes, let's cover up is no
joke. There were a number of very suspicious deaths surrounding Roswell and people.
Yeah, and this is very hard to track down because the cover up has
been very effective and they've used numerous techniques. Project blue Book is a good
example. It wasn't a true UFO study. It was a way to extricate
themselves from attention to this subject. Anyone who thought they saw a UFO and
reported to Blue Book was basically told it was a hoax, a hallucination,
or a misperception, and if you had a really good case, they would
attack you psychologically. And if you clearly saw venus. They would publicize it
to death, said, look see it's venus, it's a weather balloon,
it's swamp gas. And this is what caused jail and Heineck, the father
of modern uthology and as blue book astronomical consultant, to throw up his hands
in disgust leave and write his own books calling the Air Force liars. And
he's not the only one. So yeah, there's been a vigorous campaign and
that's what happened with this terrace driving. They covered it up. It was
given. It was this report was taken to the Commanding General of Right Patterson
Air Force Space and to end to Air Force Space in Colorado where we track
all incoing outcoming traffic, and to the Director of Intelligence at Washington, d
C. They knew about these driving theater encounters from the beginning, and I've
tracked a number of these. You know, there's a lot of declassified documents,
and they've brought in the Air Force and the Air forces weather balloon,
weather balloon, weather balloon. These are clearly not weather balloons. Weather balloons
don't drop down out of the sky, hover over theater, released smaller objects,
flasher lights at them, clear out the theater from people who are like
in a panic, or you know, people are conquering their horns, flash
in their lights at these objects. This is a real thing. I thought
over a hundred cases. And when I put that book out, people are
like, oh my gosh, that happened to me. No one ever believes
me. I'm like, I'm not surprised. Why is it? Why are
all these things being forced underground or or to be hidden, or or why
aren't we being honestly informed? I wish I could tell you for sure.
What I have come to learn is that our own governments, and I hate
to say this, yes, but it do not have our best interests in
mind. It's greed and power and control. And I would be much more
you know, lenient on them if they hadn't, say, infected people with
diseases to see what would happen, or hallucinogenics or radiation. You know,
they poison people's radiation to soldiers, innocent soldiers. You know they did this
to a whole town of black people, poison them with sexually transmitted diseases.
I think, yeah, I'm like, shame on you, what are you
doing? This is absolutely abhorrent, immoral evil, behavior. Who who are
you? And I'm not going to blame all governments, because there are wonderful
senators and representatives presidents, but there is in our government, and our government
meaning the one of the United States or the world, all of the world
governments across the world. You know, people use the word superpowers, but
you know, governments of considerable influence, I would say, and I'm going
to include England and France and Canada and the US and Brazil and you know,
China and Japan. All of them have elements that are unsavory within them.
It's UFO. Researchers call them the black government or the secret government.
And if you track it down, you can do this. It's the intelligence
communities, it's the NSA, it's the CIA, it's the FBI, it's
the highest levels of the Navy, in the Air Force, in the army.
Because our military is not elected, they are lifetime employees if they want,
and they have access to essentially an unlimited budget. Our black budget here
in the US is astronomical, and you know it's not tracked that well by
know but Congress it is having a lot of problems, you know, tracking
where a lot of this money is going. So there's a real problem here.
We have a secret government in effect and that's who's covering this up.
And it's a constitutional crisis here, and you know, because we have our
constitution here in the US and they are not obeying it. There was recent
congressional hearings and I'm very excited about it because I'm like, Okay, we're
gonna get some movement here among official circles. Finally there hasn't been for decades.
And they said upays are real. Like, yeah, okay, you
said it, but we don't know what they are. I'm like, wow,
that's a lie. And they said, we've never shot at them,
big fat lie. I can march out a hundred cases documented with government documents.
They said, we don't We've never heard of Malmstrom. I'm like,
really, you're the Secretary of Defense and you haven't heard of the incident that
everyone in the UFO community knows about and that has official documentation and then involved
a shutdown of our nuclear missiles and you're the secretary of Defense that simply was
not credible. These guys cannot be that ignorant. You can pick up one
UFO book and learn more than they said. In that ridiculous whitewash of a
hearing. They wouldn't even say these were extraterrestrials. They were just studying only
sightings. They showed a picture of a ballimt what looks like a balloon flying
by. I've seen better pictures from They said, we have four hundred cases.
I'm like, really, I've got like a thousand. And I'm just
one guy. You're a government. They're liars. And I hate to say
it, but they perjured themselves. They did, they were under oath and
they flat out light and I can prove it. And I'm just a guy
from Rosita. You know, I don't. I'm just a bookkeeper. It's
infuriated. I have been fascinated by all the things that you've talked about today
and my instincts telling me we only scratch the surface. This has been one
of the most enlightening conversations that I can remember having. Thank you for sure.
I'm just thrown away, you know, just like that, which incidentally
is the reason one of the reasons I started my side of the crystal ball
was to get my mind blown like much like what you've you've just done.
How do people find you? How do people find out about you and how
can I connect? Yeah? Thanks, Robert, I appreciate it. I
do have a website. If you're pushing my name on the internet, it
to take you there. Yes, it's precedent it that we bie dot com.
I'm all over social media Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. My books are
a vival on Amazon. I have a YouTube channel as well. You don't
like to read. Yeah, it's new, but I've managed over the past
couple of years put out about one hundred plus videos. Congratulations, and it's
growing fast. So yeah, I mean, I appreciate you having me on
the show. As I said earlier, this is such an important subject.
People really need to know about it. I think if everyone knew we were
not alone, our behavior change, we would come together. Do not believe
in the so called alien threat that our governments are putting forth. It's not
true. This is very important. They are covering this up and spinning the
narrative in an untrue way. The evidence does not support an alien threat.
They are here to help heal, teach, guide, and welcome us into
the galactic community. That is why they are here. But it's up to
us to grow up and stop killing each other. And shooting at them before
they will land. That would make sense. Thank you for being on the
show today. I am so grateful. Thank you well. This brings us
to the end of another fascinating episode of My side of the Crystal Ball.
I have learned so much once again, and I'd like to thank my guest
Preston Dennett for all the information, ideas, new ways of thinking. What
a brilliant conversation. Thank you very much, prest Just before I say goodbye,
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