WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:06.280 You're listening to k I Am six on demand. Dan, Welcome to Jesus 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:12.320 christ Shall. Good morning Jesus. You know recently I've over the past years, 3 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:16.280 I've been reading a lot of physics books, and to the contrary, 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:24.079 brings me closer to the Lord understanding science. Sure, my question is somewhere 5 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:28.480 in the Bible, I think it's Old Testament says you can search one end 6 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:31.039 of the day happens to the other, and you will not find anything like 7 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:37.920 mankind. So I've kind of assumed that this is it where the people here 8 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:43.240 on Earth is all or is into the universe, and the entire universe is 9 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:47.560 for his glory. I've read that before too, His creation is for his 10 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.039 glory. Well, my question is if there were to be life on other 11 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:54.479 planets, would Jesus, would you be out there dying on the cross and 12 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.880 resurrecting across the universe for other people and other life forms. I don't know's 13 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.719 you'd have to assume that. Now you brought up a lot of good points. 14 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:06.319 First of all, Um, you're you're right out of the gates. 15 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:11.319 Um, you're right. Science and faith are not at odds. They work 16 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:17.640 together, all truth being God's truth. Um. However, on top of 17 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:23.519 that, the concept you you paraphrased is um that there's no place in scripture 18 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:32.159 that allows for this kind of outside extraterrestrial world. Now, Um, I 19 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.200 know a lot of people have problems with that because of the sex appeal of 20 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:38.719 the thought of extraterrestrials and that type of thing. And and plus then you 21 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.680 put people's personal experiences, some that say they've been abducted, and it causes 22 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:48.000 you know, it's almost a religion unto itself. So although the curiosity is 23 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:52.159 there and it's a fascinating topic, um that when you look at the scriptural 24 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.239 foundation, you have a hard you're you're hard pressed to try and fit the 25 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.719 two together. For a couple of reasons. Um, it takes away the 26 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:09.479 specialness of humanity in many ways. Also, Hebrews two sixteen says four assuredly, 27 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:15.280 he capital h speaking about me does not give help to angels, but 28 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:21.800 he gives help to the descendants of Abraham speaking about humans. So angels aren't 29 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:27.039 saved. That's why when one third of Heaven left, they stay gone. 30 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.800 They can't change their mind or come back or be saved or any of that 31 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.960 process, because they're they're very different than humans in that sense as far as 32 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.800 the amount of knowledge they have based on who they are and how they were 33 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:46.560 created. So that shows that there is a difference between me coming as man 34 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:53.280 and saving man versus just me coming as a creature with in this case intellect, 35 00:02:53.319 --> 00:03:00.039 will and emotion. I say creature because it's to mirror creation. So 36 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.800 you can't just say, well, it's going to cover everybody, because if 37 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.240 they're different in any way, like the angels are different, then it doesn't 38 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:12.520 count. The purpose was to come as a human to take on the sins 39 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:17.039 of humanity, so there's no way to get over that in scripture. And 40 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:23.280 lastly, I will say, on a scientific note, it's interesting that when 41 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:30.240 you hear a scientist talk about the mathematical probability of humanity existing from an evolutionary 42 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:38.199 standpoint, that you're you're talking about numbers, you know, sixteen zero zeros 43 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:44.400 or more behind that concept, which puts it actually it would be more, 44 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:52.719 which puts it in the mathematical category of an impossibility. So if this one 45 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:58.520 group of life is already an impossibility mathematically that it would come out of chaos 46 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.800 or nothing, then to say that there's life somewhere else. From a scientific 47 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:09.439 standpoint becomes an interesting mathematical situation too, because now you're saying this one time 48 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:14.560 was impossible by our you know, equations, but now you're saying, well, 49 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.920 there's there's going to be life somewhere else, and now that becomes even 50 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:27.199 more mathematically impossible, not just improbable. So on the science side it doesn't 51 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.720 land a whole much to it, although nobody likes to come out and be 52 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.160 the bad guy and say now there's probably not life anywhere else, but theologically 53 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:40.000 Dan there's no real room for it. There are people that try and look 54 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:45.680 at versus like, um, there are others that are not of this flock, 55 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.319 or I have a flock that are not of this group. And people 56 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:54.839 say, oh, look, that's talking about you know, it's talking about 57 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:59.279 you know, extraterrestrials and God is making room for them. And that's not 58 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.319 the case. It's talking about Jews and Gentiles, talking about those that were, 59 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.800 um, the faithful of the day and those that were not. And 60 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:11.279 so they're you know, people trying to look at things the wheel in the 61 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:15.759 sky and Isaiah and all these type of things and try and make them into 62 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:21.560 something dealing with extraterrestrials, but that it's just not in there in the scripture. 63 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:28.560 There's no real place for it there to boot. So yeah, and 64 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:36.000 I'd like to add that many times on these UH Sciences channels and things they 65 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:41.160 talk about, they always say, you know, the odds are there tremendous 66 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:45.959 galaxies out there, and all the odds are there have to be beaming with 67 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.000 life. And I always come back and say to myself that they are saying, 68 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:54.079 man is ericant to think that he's the only one in the whole universe. 69 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:58.439 I say, well, no, on the contrary, we're so special 70 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:03.720 that that guy created us, that he came down here and walked among us. 71 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:09.680 That makes us very special. And that's I think that's the end of 72 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:14.279 it all that because he created universe and he came here makes us very unique 73 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:16.560 and special. And you hear and that's right, Dan, And you hear 74 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:20.959 arguments sometimes people saying, oh, well, you know, the faithful or 75 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:27.399 the religionists say that there are extraterrestrials and that's just because they want to feel 76 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.279 like they're special. They're the only ones. As you're saying, they're the 77 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.240 only ones on the planet. There can't be anybody else, and it's just 78 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:39.639 humanity's way of feeling special. However, those that believe in extraterrestrials believe what 79 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:46.480 that they've visited where here? Why would they visit here because you think you're 80 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.199 special, because you think Earth is worthy of visiting. Yeah, and so 81 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:54.519 it's kind of an interesting thing that people get caught up in, Dan, 82 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.759 and I appreciate you bringing that that up today because a lot of people get 83 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:06.439 caught up in that and listen, it is incredibly interesting and a fascinating discussion. 84 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.560 I get that, and I want you to explore things, and I 85 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:15.160 want you to question things. And you know there's forums for that, you 86 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.519 know, Coast to Coast and George and Ian they do a wonderful job, 87 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:25.079 and there's there's places to discuss those things and those ideas, and this is 88 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:28.680 one of them as well. But scripturally, there is not a whole lot 89 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:34.439 of footing for that idea. There's just not And I know that angers some 90 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:39.079 people. And we have a rule here on the show, and that is 91 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:45.160 that that when it comes to people that you don't change the mind the mind 92 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:49.560 of a devout anything, unless they're a devout truthsaker. You won't change the 93 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:54.720 mind of a devout Protestant. You won't change the mind of a devout Catholic. 94 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:58.439 You won't change the mind of a devout Muslim, devout Jew, a 95 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.959 devout atheist. You won't change the mind of anybody unless they're a devout truth 96 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.560 seeker. First and foremost, that is that that is what they're seeking. 97 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:15.920 And if they're seeking that, then then there is hope. Cindy, Welcome 98 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:18.360 to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Jesus High, Cindy. I have 99 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:24.759 a question. Um, I have been I'm a middle aged individual and had 100 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:31.040 partly been recently diagnosed with depression, well recently it's been a couple of years. 101 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.919 And I've also got some sematic pain that I experienced from time to time, 102 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:43.320 and I had also sought treatment alternatively herbally speaking. If you know what 103 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.240 I'm talking about, Yes, marijuana, I'm assuming the right Okay, for 104 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:54.559 medical purposes, okay, and uh, and it's not for the high per 105 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.759 se, I mean, unfortunately that's a side effect. But I do notice 106 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.440 that it does pardon me, help, I mean, I'm concerned about some 107 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.879 of the side effects. Marijuana is a depressant. Well, that's what I 108 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:11.759 understand why why would why would that help? Well? I also have anxiety 109 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.519 issues, so sometimes that that helps. I see, that makes more sense. 110 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:22.639 My question is this, I'm not for certain as to the voracity how 111 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.360 the Lord will look at it. But there's been scripture and you know, 112 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.360 they talk about pharmachia. A lot of eventilists on the television do. Yeah. 113 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:39.360 Pharmachia is the the the Greek term for sorcery, mostly in scripture, 114 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.639 and it's tied into you know, the word it's where you get the root 115 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:48.279 word for pharmacy or pharmaceuticals and correct and yes, there is a point where 116 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.799 using certain pharmaceuticals, are using certain things to you know, take the edge 117 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.879 off or have a different experience, can be considered a form of sorcery. 118 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:03.159 But there's scific in nature. You can't just road brush it. It's important 119 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:09.519 to understand that that's speaking about people that are using them recreationally for a particular 120 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.440 high, to remove themselves out of reality. It's going to lump the whole 121 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.679 thing, and especially when you look at the television commercials and you see the 122 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.200 side effects for some of these medications to treat certain illnesses, and it's starting 123 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:24.919 to fold sure at fifty five and you know you're thinking, gosh, the 124 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.039 side effects are worse than the treatment that you're going for. Yes, you 125 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.360 wonder if everything in the world causes loose stool by the by the sounds of 126 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.799 those commercials. Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm thinking it could we 127 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.320 possibly have think, Lord, can we lump all of you know, man's 128 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:46.399 pharmaceuticals in with that pharmakia thing or what's the deal here? Where do we 129 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:50.759 draw the line? Well, when it comes to marijuana, it may sound 130 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.279 like a technicality, but it's an important one. It's about its legality. 131 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.519 If it's illegal, you you are to Scripture says you're to be respecting the 132 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:05.360 laws of the land unless those laws dictates you to reject God in some way. 133 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.919 You know, I don't want to bring um what's reproach upon the Lord 134 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.200 for doing something that's not right at you know, the stumbling and things like 135 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:15.000 that too. I mean, it's not something I advertise, but I want 136 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.600 to get a you know, an opinion on that because I'm thinking pharmachea, 137 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.320 I think of gush. I mean, some of the stuff that's out there, 138 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.840 like Vikadin is abused. Absolutely, it's all that's one of those things 139 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.840 that is a Christian comfort level. And you look and you see things that 140 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.080 are become cultural and and and therefore the church thinks, well, this is 141 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.919 where the stands on scripture, but it's not. It's been a cultural part 142 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.960 of the church, but not a theological part of the church. And you 143 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.240 shouldn't be abusing any substance whatsoever, whether it's something legal like alcohol, or 144 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.639 whether it's something to drink alcohol it makes me sick. Thank God. Well, 145 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.080 there's different things that that, uh, you know, people are comfortable 146 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.200 with, and that's that's not the fair way to look at The fair way 147 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:05.399 to look at it is that mostly scripture is silent on it specifically but generically 148 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.440 when it's speaking about pharma kit, it's to understand that if you are in 149 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:13.279 an altered state, you're more susceptible to, you know, spiritual suggestions. 150 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.720 And in this particular case, if that's the same with any medicine that you're 151 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.720 on that's not just ones that you feel a buzz on. Necessarily. The 152 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.679 difference is, you know, somebody can have a glass of wine and not 153 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.159 get high. However, if you're smoking pot, the only effects you're going 154 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.159 to have or reward from it if you will, if it's used medicinally, 155 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.080 is going to be if you obtain that high, there's not you know a 156 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:46.360 bunch of shades of gray. So um, there's not like a high level 157 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.120 like there is you know, an alcohol blood level. Well, you have 158 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.960 to be responsible too, I mean, if you know that that's a side 159 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.360 effect, it's relieving other issues. But don't drive. You don't do stupid 160 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:03.440 things exactly would any other action exactly. So, So the takeaway here that 161 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.919 is important, Cindy is first and foremost you have to use it appropriately and 162 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:13.120 protect it. Treat it like a powerful prescription drug. Don't leave it out, 163 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.480 don't leave it where kids can get it, those types of things. 164 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:20.360 And if you're in the confines of those laws, Um, then there's not 165 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.879 going to be anything in scripture that's going to have a problem with that. 166 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:31.440 Tim, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Tim, you there, 167 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.440 Yeah, Hey, I got a question. Yes, I grew up 168 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:43.559 methods. The whole born became about the school of church camp of that a 169 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.720 whole lot um. Then um, I got kicked out of my house. 170 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.679 I'm a moment or us um. And then I may blame God because you 171 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.840 know, I know I did anything I should and he he basically let me 172 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.000 down. I built and now I'm a wife, I've been my kids they 173 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.080 go to church, and every time I go with them, I feel out 174 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:07.960 of place. Why do I feel that way? Because you? You aren't 175 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.360 right with God. I mean, if you feel uncomfortable in front of somebody, 176 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:16.720 it's usually because of something you did, or a miscommunication, for one, 177 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.960 blaming me for the things that you've done, or or putting on me 178 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:26.159 the you know, the situations in your life obviously built there by you, 179 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:31.600 Tim is gonna put a division. And I think you know that deep down 180 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.120 if you're honest with yourself and you look at the decisions you've made, in 181 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:41.080 the actions you've put forth in the relationship, in the situation that you, 182 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.159 you know, if you're honest with yourself, will say, oh, Okay, 183 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.639 there's things that I've done that I'm not happy about, I'm not proud 184 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:52.679 of, or not productive in the relationship, either with your family or with 185 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.360 God. And by doing those things, you separate yourself from God. You 186 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.320 go into a church, of course, you're not going to feel comfortable because 187 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.720 you're not comfortable. I mean, there's always the option that you could not 188 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.919 feel comfortable because the church is odd or the people in the church aren't very 189 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.559 loving. But just based on the simple description that you gave to me today, 190 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.240 I would say that there's there's something you're doing to separate yourself. And 191 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.000 if you start playing that name, that name and blame game that everybody does, 192 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.159 you know it's their fault or it's their fault or I blame it on 193 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.240 God. That usually points to the fact that you're not being honest to yourself 194 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:37.440 about things that you've done or things that you haven't done in a relationship with 195 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:46.360 your family, whatever it might be to make things work. Frank, welcome 196 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.000 to the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you for taking my call, my pleasure. 197 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:56.120 How can I help you? Yeah, my question is about what some 198 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:03.360 people call negative theology, and I ask it maybe specifically with a thought of 199 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.679 how is a Christian, myself or any Christian supposed to view or have a 200 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:14.200 picture of God. You know, my feelings as God. It's such just 201 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:21.360 a wonderful, great transcendence thing. I can't even understand a mystery. True 202 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.879 awe, not awe like people use these days to sure, but true people 203 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:30.879 say awesome all the time, choose yeah. Yeah, it gets watered down 204 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.799 a little bit, doesn't it. Yeah, So I find it easier and 205 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:40.879 somewhat valuable to think that God is not this. He's not an old man 206 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.840 with a gray beard, the Father God, you were here, so we 207 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.080 have a picture of you as you were as a human. But I just 208 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:56.039 at least one Yeah, God is just a great, wonderful mystery. And 209 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.360 I wondered your thoughts about that. How I and a Christian, any Christian, 210 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:04.519 should try to view God. That's a wonderful question. It brings up 211 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.000 a whole lot. So let's see how much of it we can get to. 212 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.559 Um First of all, when you're dealing with negative theology or what's referred 213 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:17.599 to as via negativa in a Latin or in the negative way, or another 214 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:22.839 theological term for it would be a prophetic theology. So if you're if you're 215 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:26.839 dealing with that kind of theology or the the the removal where you're removing that 216 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:33.319 or pointing up the things you can't know about God. Um Uh is a 217 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.279 process. There's a there is some controversy with it. I will tell you 218 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.720 the thing that I don't like about it, or statements like and you alluded 219 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:42.640 to this yourself, and I'll point out why, but um, you said 220 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:47.720 yourself about knowing what you can't know about God. Um that when you get 221 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:56.200 to that negative theology concept um where where you say statements like human beings cannot 222 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:04.680 use words about the essence of God. Unfortunately that's called that's self stultifying because 223 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:10.680 you're using words about the essence of God, even if it's in the negative. 224 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.279 That the use of the negative in philosophy makes the philosopher feel that they're 225 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.880 they're removing themselves and like almost humbling themselves and removing themselves from the equation. 226 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:25.079 But really you're not. You're essentially saying I can't utter one word of English, 227 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:30.000 not one. By saying that statement, you've countered the statement. So 228 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:33.160 by saying that you can't Emmanuel Kant said this as well, that you can't 229 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:41.680 know God. But by making that statement, you're making a knowledge statement about 230 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.160 God. So if you can have that one piece of knowledge about God, 231 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:48.000 how come you can't have other pieces of knowledge about God? That would be 232 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.440 my I guess what I mean is, you know I used words to say 233 00:18:52.519 --> 00:19:00.359 that God is great and God is a great mystery and awesome. So you 234 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:06.000 can say things about God, but perhaps the negative side has some value, 235 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.839 and in saying indeed, this is what he's not. He's not an old 236 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:12.200 man with a great beard. Absolutely. So that brings me to my second 237 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:17.160 point, which furthers this, which is that it's more fair to say that 238 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.799 there are certain things you can know and certain things you can't know. Certain 239 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:25.480 things you know by special revelation, meaning scripture where God says, this is 240 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:27.319 who I am and this is what I do, and that way you can 241 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:33.680 know. And then in Romans one it talks about general revelation and that there 242 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:38.079 are things that you can know by the designer, by way of the design. 243 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.079 So, for instance, you can learn things about an artist if they 244 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.359 put enough of themselves into their art. Yeah, you can tell if they 245 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:51.079 like reds, if they like textures, textures, or if they like muted 246 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:55.160 colors, or these types of things. These will give you insights to the 247 00:19:55.200 --> 00:20:00.000 individual, just like creation will give you insights to the creator. That God 248 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.119 is a reasonable God, that God is a God of justice, that God 249 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:07.519 is a god of intellect, will and emotion. These things can be seen 250 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:11.559 in the creation. So you can know things now then you brought in this 251 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.480 third element, which is why I said you such a wonderful question, but 252 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:21.039 very complex. You brought in this third possibility, and that's dealing with anthropomorphism, 253 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:25.880 when you start applying human attributes to God. And that is a huge 254 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:30.920 problem. And we talked about this some weeks ago, that people tend to 255 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:36.559 make God a bigger them. It's like God is just a better me. 256 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:38.720 And you say that in your head over and over and over again, and 257 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.559 you think, okay. And that's why you think an old man, because 258 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:48.000 it age, with age comes wisdom, right, so you assume that God 259 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.960 is wise. God has to be old then, and then the man part 260 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:56.759 comes from patriarchal society in those images. And obviously that scripture is written in 261 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:03.880 the masculine tense when it's refers to God most of the time save for one 262 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:08.240 name of God. Else should I, which is a female tense, speaking 263 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:14.160 of the nurturing aspects of God. But these things all kind of mix and 264 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.720 mesh frank into your knowledge of God and how you see God. The problem 265 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:23.880 lives inherently in trying to see God in the physical that's that's the biggest problem. 266 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:29.200 But trying to see God in intellect, will and emotion, and see 267 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:33.039 God as a God of justice. And these things becomes quite clear through scripture, 268 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:41.480 special revelation, and through creation general revelation. So there are things that 269 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:45.319 you can see and know about God. You can't know everything. And I 270 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:52.759 agree with you on two points. That one that nowadays people use the word 271 00:21:52.799 --> 00:22:00.480 awesome towards things that aren't hardly and that every word you use is coming from 272 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.599 the imperfect mouth of an imperfect human being. Will be imperfect in the description 273 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:10.960 of God, but it doesn't mean that it can't be beneficial towards the understanding 274 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:15.480 on a human level of God. So you can say things about God. 275 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.720 You can say God is great. Is it trite in comparison to the magnificence 276 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:25.400 of God? Yes, but so is the word magnificence. So there really 277 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:30.480 is things that words. And language is wonderful because it often comes out of 278 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.759 the experience, like, for instance, the word excruciating. You know what 279 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:41.079 the root word of excruciating is cross. Oh, yes, so it comes 280 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:45.440 from the very the very pain on the cross. Crush is in the word 281 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:51.839 excruciating. It comes from death on the cross. It comes from that experience. 282 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:56.000 And therefore you say, gosh, I went through this experience. It 283 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:02.000 was an excruciating experience. Was it really like being nailed to the cross? 284 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:07.119 No? So there's that words are going to be imperfect. Every analogy about 285 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.920 God is going to break down. Every you know, conceptual discussion about the 286 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:18.200 intensity of who God is and the vastness of who God is will fall imperfect 287 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:22.440 at the foot of God. But you also use terms like the foot of 288 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:30.039 God. It's just that's just the way language works. I'm reminded of, 289 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.599 you know, scientists that will occasionally call in and be upset at a term 290 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:38.680 that's used that's casual. And I said, what happened this morning with the 291 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:45.519 sun? The sun rise raised? Did it really? No? No, 292 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.440 it doesn't rise the sun does it rise and it doesn't set? Yeah, 293 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:55.359 But every scientist that looks out, you know, at a beach is going 294 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:59.119 to say that the sun is setting. They're going to be looking because it's 295 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:03.240 observational language, and you're going to be limited in that. So philosophically, 296 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:08.839 is there is there some value in the in the concept of the viet negativa, 297 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:14.440 you know theology or the negative theology. Yes, if it's put in 298 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:18.759 there in part with the greater understanding that, yes, you can't know everything 299 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.160 about God, you can't know the fullness of God. But there are things 300 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.680 that you can know, many of which are taught to you or revealed to 301 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:33.400 you by God himself and through Scripture, through creation. And if you can 302 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.240 know those things, then you can get an idea. You can't put God 303 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:41.160 in a box. You can't put a beard on him. You can't make 304 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:47.319 God white, black or yellow. You can't make a God man or woman 305 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:53.200 in the big concept in the in the you know, uh, the different 306 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:59.119 concept dealing with Christianity would be the trinity. And then you put me into 307 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:03.960 the equation and you have God becoming flesh. So says John one one in 308 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.440 the beginning was the word, the word was with God, the word was 309 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:12.759 God, and the word became flesh. So there's, uh, there's difference 310 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:17.079 in Christianity because you have that image. Now you said picture. There are 311 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:23.000 no photographs of me. Scripture says that there was nothing in my outward appearance 312 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:29.240 that made me, you know, there was nothing like a charisma or attitude, 313 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:33.079 no reason to follow me over someone else. It's it's not like girls 314 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.559 were following me because they thought I was good looking, and men were following 315 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.039 me because they thought I was super smart. It was more than that, 316 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:45.799 and and so scripture says that it wasn't like I was. I wasn't anything 317 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:51.240 special to look at. Now, in paintings or movies or depictions, it's 318 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:56.920 always this long, sort of blonde haired guy with piercing blue eyes. Doesn't 319 00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:02.079 you know? That doesn't fit the time or any of those things. But 320 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:06.119 that's to set me apart in the context of the movie or the player what 321 00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:11.880 have you to be different than anybody else. But you can know certain things 322 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.960 about my physical appearance because you know it talked about certain things, but it's 323 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:21.200 not about the physic yes, exactly, add two eyes at two ears, 324 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.400 at a nose and mouth, all those things. But you're a phrase I 325 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:29.960 find confusing, and forgive me for him no, please is you know I 326 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.240 was always taught as a child that we were made in the image and likeness 327 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:40.720 of God. Now I've come to understand that that doesn't mean literally the image 328 00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:45.720 and likeness of God as physical correct, then God would look like a man 329 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.640 exactly. It deals with intellect, will and emotion. That humans have intellect, 330 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:55.319 will and emotion. There are some theologians actually Frank that argue that angels 331 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.680 also were created in the image of God because they have intellect, will, 332 00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:02.359 and emotion. And so there are some that go back and forth as to 333 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:07.559 that dialogue and if that might be something of value as well. But really 334 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.559 people often misunderstand that and think that that has to do with the physical. 335 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.200 But God is not talking about the physical. If you remember my discussion, 336 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:22.920 uh in in scripture talking about being born again, is people think that that's 337 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.279 a you know, that's a group of church or something. It's not. 338 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:32.359 It's a it's a concept in Scripture. It's actually translates to mean begotten from 339 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.160 above, not to be born again, but but but to be born from 340 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:41.200 above technically. So in that conversation with Nicodemus, i'm I remember talking to 341 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.920 him. He's trying to grasp it, and he says, well, so 342 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.319 I've got to climb in, you know, my mother's womb again And I 343 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.599 said, no, no, no, they're they're born. You're born once 344 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.680 of the flesh and once of the spirit. Uh. If you're born of 345 00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:59.000 the spirit when you come into the understanding of God, and so to say 346 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.640 that that you are created in the image of God in the physical is a 347 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:07.240 misnomer. It's to understand that in the physical your soul is made up of 348 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.960 intellect, will and emotion, and that is in the image of God. 349 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:18.720 Taran, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, my Lord, Hi. 350 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:26.119 I wonder if you would explain what you mean when you say I am 351 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.759 with you always. Oh, at the end of the show. Yeah, 352 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.039 okay, at the end of the show. Essentially, it's it's a reminder 353 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:40.240 and it's it's loosely referencing Matthew twenty eight. Verse twenty says, teaching to 354 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:45.319 them to observe all that I command you, and lo, I am with 355 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.400 you always, even to the end of the age. And the reason why 356 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.640 I say that at the end of the show is because we have a limited 357 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.119 time here on the show, and it goes by quickly, and we, 358 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.920 you know, only get to share so much, and that it's very easy 359 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.519 and the show ends to forget you get wrapped up in the show, or 360 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:04.960 you get wrapped up in what we're doing here, and it's not about the 361 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.920 show, and it's not about the circumstances, which is why we refer to 362 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.079 them as life circumstances. Not about just the things around you that will change. 363 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.880 It's about what's around you that won't change, and that's God, and 364 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:21.920 that God is a constant. And every time we come together and it's you 365 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:25.000 know, only for a little bit of time. And I hope that you 366 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.599 continue to join me every Sunday. But there's some that don't, or they 367 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.279 go away, or they can't listen, or they move or whatever it is. 368 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:36.000 And I don't want it to be about the show. If it's just 369 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.839 about us meeting here, then everything I say every single week is lost. 370 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:47.160 It means nothing. The only way that it has power, the only way 371 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:53.079 that it has potency and understanding and is relevant to your life is if you 372 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:57.240 know that it's it's not about the fleeting moment. It's not about this show, 373 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:03.720 but it's about a relationship with odd and so it's important to me every 374 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:10.640 single week to spend that that last few seconds of the show, to remind 375 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.039 you of the importance of that and to let you know that no matter what 376 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.359 takes place on the show, outside of the show, in life, that 377 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:23.440 I am with you always KF I Am six on demand