You're listening to k I Am six on demand. Dan, Welcome to Jesus
christ Shall. Good morning Jesus. You know recently I've over the past years,
I've been reading a lot of physics books, and to the contrary,
brings me closer to the Lord understanding science. Sure, my question is somewhere
in the Bible, I think it's Old Testament says you can search one end
of the day happens to the other, and you will not find anything like
mankind. So I've kind of assumed that this is it where the people here
on Earth is all or is into the universe, and the entire universe is
for his glory. I've read that before too, His creation is for his
glory. Well, my question is if there were to be life on other
planets, would Jesus, would you be out there dying on the cross and
resurrecting across the universe for other people and other life forms. I don't know's
you'd have to assume that. Now you brought up a lot of good points.
First of all, Um, you're you're right out of the gates.
Um, you're right. Science and faith are not at odds. They work
together, all truth being God's truth. Um. However, on top of
that, the concept you you paraphrased is um that there's no place in scripture
that allows for this kind of outside extraterrestrial world. Now, Um, I
know a lot of people have problems with that because of the sex appeal of
the thought of extraterrestrials and that type of thing. And and plus then you
put people's personal experiences, some that say they've been abducted, and it causes
you know, it's almost a religion unto itself. So although the curiosity is
there and it's a fascinating topic, um that when you look at the scriptural
foundation, you have a hard you're you're hard pressed to try and fit the
two together. For a couple of reasons. Um, it takes away the
specialness of humanity in many ways. Also, Hebrews two sixteen says four assuredly,
he capital h speaking about me does not give help to angels, but
he gives help to the descendants of Abraham speaking about humans. So angels aren't
saved. That's why when one third of Heaven left, they stay gone.
They can't change their mind or come back or be saved or any of that
process, because they're they're very different than humans in that sense as far as
the amount of knowledge they have based on who they are and how they were
created. So that shows that there is a difference between me coming as man
and saving man versus just me coming as a creature with in this case intellect,
will and emotion. I say creature because it's to mirror creation. So
you can't just say, well, it's going to cover everybody, because if
they're different in any way, like the angels are different, then it doesn't
count. The purpose was to come as a human to take on the sins
of humanity, so there's no way to get over that in scripture. And
lastly, I will say, on a scientific note, it's interesting that when
you hear a scientist talk about the mathematical probability of humanity existing from an evolutionary
standpoint, that you're you're talking about numbers, you know, sixteen zero zeros
or more behind that concept, which puts it actually it would be more,
which puts it in the mathematical category of an impossibility. So if this one
group of life is already an impossibility mathematically that it would come out of chaos
or nothing, then to say that there's life somewhere else. From a scientific
standpoint becomes an interesting mathematical situation too, because now you're saying this one time
was impossible by our you know, equations, but now you're saying, well,
there's there's going to be life somewhere else, and now that becomes even
more mathematically impossible, not just improbable. So on the science side it doesn't
land a whole much to it, although nobody likes to come out and be
the bad guy and say now there's probably not life anywhere else, but theologically
Dan there's no real room for it. There are people that try and look
at versus like, um, there are others that are not of this flock,
or I have a flock that are not of this group. And people
say, oh, look, that's talking about you know, it's talking about
you know, extraterrestrials and God is making room for them. And that's not
the case. It's talking about Jews and Gentiles, talking about those that were,
um, the faithful of the day and those that were not. And
so they're you know, people trying to look at things the wheel in the
sky and Isaiah and all these type of things and try and make them into
something dealing with extraterrestrials, but that it's just not in there in the scripture.
There's no real place for it there to boot. So yeah, and
I'd like to add that many times on these UH Sciences channels and things they
talk about, they always say, you know, the odds are there tremendous
galaxies out there, and all the odds are there have to be beaming with
life. And I always come back and say to myself that they are saying,
man is ericant to think that he's the only one in the whole universe.
I say, well, no, on the contrary, we're so special
that that guy created us, that he came down here and walked among us.
That makes us very special. And that's I think that's the end of
it all that because he created universe and he came here makes us very unique
and special. And you hear and that's right, Dan, And you hear
arguments sometimes people saying, oh, well, you know, the faithful or
the religionists say that there are extraterrestrials and that's just because they want to feel
like they're special. They're the only ones. As you're saying, they're the
only ones on the planet. There can't be anybody else, and it's just
humanity's way of feeling special. However, those that believe in extraterrestrials believe what
that they've visited where here? Why would they visit here because you think you're
special, because you think Earth is worthy of visiting. Yeah, and so
it's kind of an interesting thing that people get caught up in, Dan,
and I appreciate you bringing that that up today because a lot of people get
caught up in that and listen, it is incredibly interesting and a fascinating discussion.
I get that, and I want you to explore things, and I
want you to question things. And you know there's forums for that, you
know, Coast to Coast and George and Ian they do a wonderful job,
and there's there's places to discuss those things and those ideas, and this is
one of them as well. But scripturally, there is not a whole lot
of footing for that idea. There's just not And I know that angers some
people. And we have a rule here on the show, and that is
that that when it comes to people that you don't change the mind the mind
of a devout anything, unless they're a devout truthsaker. You won't change the
mind of a devout Protestant. You won't change the mind of a devout Catholic.
You won't change the mind of a devout Muslim, devout Jew, a
devout atheist. You won't change the mind of anybody unless they're a devout truth
seeker. First and foremost, that is that that is what they're seeking.
And if they're seeking that, then then there is hope. Cindy, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Jesus High, Cindy. I have
a question. Um, I have been I'm a middle aged individual and had
partly been recently diagnosed with depression, well recently it's been a couple of years.
And I've also got some sematic pain that I experienced from time to time,
and I had also sought treatment alternatively herbally speaking. If you know what
I'm talking about, Yes, marijuana, I'm assuming the right Okay, for
medical purposes, okay, and uh, and it's not for the high per
se, I mean, unfortunately that's a side effect. But I do notice
that it does pardon me, help, I mean, I'm concerned about some
of the side effects. Marijuana is a depressant. Well, that's what I
understand why why would why would that help? Well? I also have anxiety
issues, so sometimes that that helps. I see, that makes more sense.
My question is this, I'm not for certain as to the voracity how
the Lord will look at it. But there's been scripture and you know,
they talk about pharmachia. A lot of eventilists on the television do. Yeah.
Pharmachia is the the the Greek term for sorcery, mostly in scripture,
and it's tied into you know, the word it's where you get the root
word for pharmacy or pharmaceuticals and correct and yes, there is a point where
using certain pharmaceuticals, are using certain things to you know, take the edge
off or have a different experience, can be considered a form of sorcery.
But there's scific in nature. You can't just road brush it. It's important
to understand that that's speaking about people that are using them recreationally for a particular
high, to remove themselves out of reality. It's going to lump the whole
thing, and especially when you look at the television commercials and you see the
side effects for some of these medications to treat certain illnesses, and it's starting
to fold sure at fifty five and you know you're thinking, gosh, the
side effects are worse than the treatment that you're going for. Yes, you
wonder if everything in the world causes loose stool by the by the sounds of
those commercials. Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm thinking it could we
possibly have think, Lord, can we lump all of you know, man's
pharmaceuticals in with that pharmakia thing or what's the deal here? Where do we
draw the line? Well, when it comes to marijuana, it may sound
like a technicality, but it's an important one. It's about its legality.
If it's illegal, you you are to Scripture says you're to be respecting the
laws of the land unless those laws dictates you to reject God in some way.
You know, I don't want to bring um what's reproach upon the Lord
for doing something that's not right at you know, the stumbling and things like
that too. I mean, it's not something I advertise, but I want
to get a you know, an opinion on that because I'm thinking pharmachea,
I think of gush. I mean, some of the stuff that's out there,
like Vikadin is abused. Absolutely, it's all that's one of those things
that is a Christian comfort level. And you look and you see things that
are become cultural and and and therefore the church thinks, well, this is
where the stands on scripture, but it's not. It's been a cultural part
of the church, but not a theological part of the church. And you
shouldn't be abusing any substance whatsoever, whether it's something legal like alcohol, or
whether it's something to drink alcohol it makes me sick. Thank God. Well,
there's different things that that, uh, you know, people are comfortable
with, and that's that's not the fair way to look at The fair way
to look at it is that mostly scripture is silent on it specifically but generically
when it's speaking about pharma kit, it's to understand that if you are in
an altered state, you're more susceptible to, you know, spiritual suggestions.
And in this particular case, if that's the same with any medicine that you're
on that's not just ones that you feel a buzz on. Necessarily. The
difference is, you know, somebody can have a glass of wine and not
get high. However, if you're smoking pot, the only effects you're going
to have or reward from it if you will, if it's used medicinally,
is going to be if you obtain that high, there's not you know a
bunch of shades of gray. So um, there's not like a high level
like there is you know, an alcohol blood level. Well, you have
to be responsible too, I mean, if you know that that's a side
effect, it's relieving other issues. But don't drive. You don't do stupid
things exactly would any other action exactly. So, So the takeaway here that
is important, Cindy is first and foremost you have to use it appropriately and
protect it. Treat it like a powerful prescription drug. Don't leave it out,
don't leave it where kids can get it, those types of things.
And if you're in the confines of those laws, Um, then there's not
going to be anything in scripture that's going to have a problem with that.
Tim, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Tim, you there,
Yeah, Hey, I got a question. Yes, I grew up
methods. The whole born became about the school of church camp of that a
whole lot um. Then um, I got kicked out of my house.
I'm a moment or us um. And then I may blame God because you
know, I know I did anything I should and he he basically let me
down. I built and now I'm a wife, I've been my kids they
go to church, and every time I go with them, I feel out
of place. Why do I feel that way? Because you? You aren't
right with God. I mean, if you feel uncomfortable in front of somebody,
it's usually because of something you did, or a miscommunication, for one,
blaming me for the things that you've done, or or putting on me
the you know, the situations in your life obviously built there by you,
Tim is gonna put a division. And I think you know that deep down
if you're honest with yourself and you look at the decisions you've made, in
the actions you've put forth in the relationship, in the situation that you,
you know, if you're honest with yourself, will say, oh, Okay,
there's things that I've done that I'm not happy about, I'm not proud
of, or not productive in the relationship, either with your family or with
God. And by doing those things, you separate yourself from God. You
go into a church, of course, you're not going to feel comfortable because
you're not comfortable. I mean, there's always the option that you could not
feel comfortable because the church is odd or the people in the church aren't very
loving. But just based on the simple description that you gave to me today,
I would say that there's there's something you're doing to separate yourself. And
if you start playing that name, that name and blame game that everybody does,
you know it's their fault or it's their fault or I blame it on
God. That usually points to the fact that you're not being honest to yourself
about things that you've done or things that you haven't done in a relationship with
your family, whatever it might be to make things work. Frank, welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you for taking my call, my pleasure.
How can I help you? Yeah, my question is about what some
people call negative theology, and I ask it maybe specifically with a thought of
how is a Christian, myself or any Christian supposed to view or have a
picture of God. You know, my feelings as God. It's such just
a wonderful, great transcendence thing. I can't even understand a mystery. True
awe, not awe like people use these days to sure, but true people
say awesome all the time, choose yeah. Yeah, it gets watered down
a little bit, doesn't it. Yeah, So I find it easier and
somewhat valuable to think that God is not this. He's not an old man
with a gray beard, the Father God, you were here, so we
have a picture of you as you were as a human. But I just
at least one Yeah, God is just a great, wonderful mystery. And
I wondered your thoughts about that. How I and a Christian, any Christian,
should try to view God. That's a wonderful question. It brings up
a whole lot. So let's see how much of it we can get to.
Um First of all, when you're dealing with negative theology or what's referred
to as via negativa in a Latin or in the negative way, or another
theological term for it would be a prophetic theology. So if you're if you're
dealing with that kind of theology or the the the removal where you're removing that
or pointing up the things you can't know about God. Um Uh is a
process. There's a there is some controversy with it. I will tell you
the thing that I don't like about it, or statements like and you alluded
to this yourself, and I'll point out why, but um, you said
yourself about knowing what you can't know about God. Um that when you get
to that negative theology concept um where where you say statements like human beings cannot
use words about the essence of God. Unfortunately that's called that's self stultifying because
you're using words about the essence of God, even if it's in the negative.
That the use of the negative in philosophy makes the philosopher feel that they're
they're removing themselves and like almost humbling themselves and removing themselves from the equation.
But really you're not. You're essentially saying I can't utter one word of English,
not one. By saying that statement, you've countered the statement. So
by saying that you can't Emmanuel Kant said this as well, that you can't
know God. But by making that statement, you're making a knowledge statement about
God. So if you can have that one piece of knowledge about God,
how come you can't have other pieces of knowledge about God? That would be
my I guess what I mean is, you know I used words to say
that God is great and God is a great mystery and awesome. So you
can say things about God, but perhaps the negative side has some value,
and in saying indeed, this is what he's not. He's not an old
man with a great beard. Absolutely. So that brings me to my second
point, which furthers this, which is that it's more fair to say that
there are certain things you can know and certain things you can't know. Certain
things you know by special revelation, meaning scripture where God says, this is
who I am and this is what I do, and that way you can
know. And then in Romans one it talks about general revelation and that there
are things that you can know by the designer, by way of the design.
So, for instance, you can learn things about an artist if they
put enough of themselves into their art. Yeah, you can tell if they
like reds, if they like textures, textures, or if they like muted
colors, or these types of things. These will give you insights to the
individual, just like creation will give you insights to the creator. That God
is a reasonable God, that God is a God of justice, that God
is a god of intellect, will and emotion. These things can be seen
in the creation. So you can know things now then you brought in this
third element, which is why I said you such a wonderful question, but
very complex. You brought in this third possibility, and that's dealing with anthropomorphism,
when you start applying human attributes to God. And that is a huge
problem. And we talked about this some weeks ago, that people tend to
make God a bigger them. It's like God is just a better me.
And you say that in your head over and over and over again, and
you think, okay. And that's why you think an old man, because
it age, with age comes wisdom, right, so you assume that God
is wise. God has to be old then, and then the man part
comes from patriarchal society in those images. And obviously that scripture is written in
the masculine tense when it's refers to God most of the time save for one
name of God. Else should I, which is a female tense, speaking
of the nurturing aspects of God. But these things all kind of mix and
mesh frank into your knowledge of God and how you see God. The problem
lives inherently in trying to see God in the physical that's that's the biggest problem.
But trying to see God in intellect, will and emotion, and see
God as a God of justice. And these things becomes quite clear through scripture,
special revelation, and through creation general revelation. So there are things that
you can see and know about God. You can't know everything. And I
agree with you on two points. That one that nowadays people use the word
awesome towards things that aren't hardly and that every word you use is coming from
the imperfect mouth of an imperfect human being. Will be imperfect in the description
of God, but it doesn't mean that it can't be beneficial towards the understanding
on a human level of God. So you can say things about God.
You can say God is great. Is it trite in comparison to the magnificence
of God? Yes, but so is the word magnificence. So there really
is things that words. And language is wonderful because it often comes out of
the experience, like, for instance, the word excruciating. You know what
the root word of excruciating is cross. Oh, yes, so it comes
from the very the very pain on the cross. Crush is in the word
excruciating. It comes from death on the cross. It comes from that experience.
And therefore you say, gosh, I went through this experience. It
was an excruciating experience. Was it really like being nailed to the cross?
No? So there's that words are going to be imperfect. Every analogy about
God is going to break down. Every you know, conceptual discussion about the
intensity of who God is and the vastness of who God is will fall imperfect
at the foot of God. But you also use terms like the foot of
God. It's just that's just the way language works. I'm reminded of,
you know, scientists that will occasionally call in and be upset at a term
that's used that's casual. And I said, what happened this morning with the
sun? The sun rise raised? Did it really? No? No,
it doesn't rise the sun does it rise and it doesn't set? Yeah,
But every scientist that looks out, you know, at a beach is going
to say that the sun is setting. They're going to be looking because it's
observational language, and you're going to be limited in that. So philosophically,
is there is there some value in the in the concept of the viet negativa,
you know theology or the negative theology. Yes, if it's put in
there in part with the greater understanding that, yes, you can't know everything
about God, you can't know the fullness of God. But there are things
that you can know, many of which are taught to you or revealed to
you by God himself and through Scripture, through creation. And if you can
know those things, then you can get an idea. You can't put God
in a box. You can't put a beard on him. You can't make
God white, black or yellow. You can't make a God man or woman
in the big concept in the in the you know, uh, the different
concept dealing with Christianity would be the trinity. And then you put me into
the equation and you have God becoming flesh. So says John one one in
the beginning was the word, the word was with God, the word was
God, and the word became flesh. So there's, uh, there's difference
in Christianity because you have that image. Now you said picture. There are
no photographs of me. Scripture says that there was nothing in my outward appearance
that made me, you know, there was nothing like a charisma or attitude,
no reason to follow me over someone else. It's it's not like girls
were following me because they thought I was good looking, and men were following
me because they thought I was super smart. It was more than that,
and and so scripture says that it wasn't like I was. I wasn't anything
special to look at. Now, in paintings or movies or depictions, it's
always this long, sort of blonde haired guy with piercing blue eyes. Doesn't
you know? That doesn't fit the time or any of those things. But
that's to set me apart in the context of the movie or the player what
have you to be different than anybody else. But you can know certain things
about my physical appearance because you know it talked about certain things, but it's
not about the physic yes, exactly, add two eyes at two ears,
at a nose and mouth, all those things. But you're a phrase I
find confusing, and forgive me for him no, please is you know I
was always taught as a child that we were made in the image and likeness
of God. Now I've come to understand that that doesn't mean literally the image
and likeness of God as physical correct, then God would look like a man
exactly. It deals with intellect, will and emotion. That humans have intellect,
will and emotion. There are some theologians actually Frank that argue that angels
also were created in the image of God because they have intellect, will,
and emotion. And so there are some that go back and forth as to
that dialogue and if that might be something of value as well. But really
people often misunderstand that and think that that has to do with the physical.
But God is not talking about the physical. If you remember my discussion,
uh in in scripture talking about being born again, is people think that that's
a you know, that's a group of church or something. It's not.
It's a it's a concept in Scripture. It's actually translates to mean begotten from
above, not to be born again, but but but to be born from
above technically. So in that conversation with Nicodemus, i'm I remember talking to
him. He's trying to grasp it, and he says, well, so
I've got to climb in, you know, my mother's womb again And I
said, no, no, no, they're they're born. You're born once
of the flesh and once of the spirit. Uh. If you're born of
the spirit when you come into the understanding of God, and so to say
that that you are created in the image of God in the physical is a
misnomer. It's to understand that in the physical your soul is made up of
intellect, will and emotion, and that is in the image of God.
Taran, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, my Lord, Hi.
I wonder if you would explain what you mean when you say I am
with you always. Oh, at the end of the show. Yeah,
okay, at the end of the show. Essentially, it's it's a reminder
and it's it's loosely referencing Matthew twenty eight. Verse twenty says, teaching to
them to observe all that I command you, and lo, I am with
you always, even to the end of the age. And the reason why
I say that at the end of the show is because we have a limited
time here on the show, and it goes by quickly, and we,
you know, only get to share so much, and that it's very easy
and the show ends to forget you get wrapped up in the show, or
you get wrapped up in what we're doing here, and it's not about the
show, and it's not about the circumstances, which is why we refer to
them as life circumstances. Not about just the things around you that will change.
It's about what's around you that won't change, and that's God, and
that God is a constant. And every time we come together and it's you
know, only for a little bit of time. And I hope that you
continue to join me every Sunday. But there's some that don't, or they
go away, or they can't listen, or they move or whatever it is.
And I don't want it to be about the show. If it's just
about us meeting here, then everything I say every single week is lost.
It means nothing. The only way that it has power, the only way
that it has potency and understanding and is relevant to your life is if you
know that it's it's not about the fleeting moment. It's not about this show,
but it's about a relationship with odd and so it's important to me every
single week to spend that that last few seconds of the show, to remind
you of the importance of that and to let you know that no matter what
takes place on the show, outside of the show, in life, that
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