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We come to the night cat on
seven LWD Nation station blasting out across as

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Russia. Lamba used to say the
fruited planes. I love Rush, still

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love Russia anyway. Tonight is a
very special night for me personally because it's

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the only nightcap I have this month
outside of being with you from nine to

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midnight on Memorial Day night that's at
the end of the month. But let's

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focus on tonight. A great show, a very unusual show in that I

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have for the first time Art Volo, who is a guy who was inspired

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back in nineteen seventy seven by watching
a video of a disc jockey in the

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studio on the air to create this
entire video business where he goes around and

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does video air checks of people like
me. Now, people like me should

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never be on TV. That's why
we're on the radio and not on television.

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But it is interesting, especially for
somebody in the business like me,

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to watch other people work their craft. I'm glad you're not seeing me now.

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I didn't really dress for it,
but Art Volo will be at a

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lunch, kind of lunch that I
was at a couple of weeks ago and

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have been Privy two and privileged and
honored to be at where other radio people

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get together, mostly retired folks.
These guys Art has assembled are some of

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the biggest names in the country.
You may not know them listening to WLW,

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but you will, I think,
be interested in our conversation. I

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know I'm chomping at the bit to
get to what that'll come later this hour.

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Also, Todd Benzman, my friend
from the Center from Immigration Studies,

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is with us, and as you
know, in just two days, Title

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forty two officially ends. When it
comes to immigration in this country, we're

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already drowning. We're already overrun by
illegal immigrants from all over the globe,

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not just Mexico, not just South
America or Central but from all over the

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globe. We do not know who
about ninety five percent of them are,

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and it's a threat to our country's
continuance, to its continuing existence. So

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Todd Benzman with an update. Also, Dan was, our Second Amendment guy,

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will join us to talk about not
only the rash of mass shootings,

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but what should be done about it
from a Second Amendment proponents perspective. And

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I think it's good to get that
perspective because all you get from the politicians

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is the divisive politics of taking people's
guns away god given rights guaranteed by our

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United States Constitution. Because they think
that's going to solve the problem. It's

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not. Dan Was will be here
to explain in just a few Karen Cataline's

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back. One of our favorite all
time guests on the Nightcap, Vincent Edward

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Ellison, an interesting guy born as
a sharecropper's son on a cotton plantation in

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Haywood County, Tennessee, and he's
one of the leading voices of conservatism in

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the black community. Dave Hadder with
an I update and of course the fur

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Bowl a night before he undergoes hip
surgery. We hope all go We pray

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all goes well for Andy tomorrow when
he goes under the knife. We'll talk

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about his numerous fears and anxieties,
which I mean he has those with a

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hangnail. That's all on the Nightcap
tonight, and I hope you'll stick around

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for the balance of the program.
And remember after midnight the podcast should be

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available on iHeartRadio and at seven WLW
dot com. Todd Benzman on our Southern

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Border and if you think it's been
a nightmare so far, oh, just

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wait until twelve thousand migrants a day
are coming in and there's no stopping the

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tide. Amazing. This is a
nightcap. Glad you're with us on seven

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What if you could be credit card
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as much as I now joining us
from the Center for Immigration Studies, A

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guy who knows more about the southern
border than majorcas Kamala Harris, and I

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don't know every other government official put
together, including members of Congress. His

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name is Todd Benzman. He's also
the author of the latest book on this

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true crisis on our American's borders called
Overrun. And we're watching that play out

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in real time right now and in
wells less than two days. It's going

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to get even worse, if that's
possible. Todd Benzman, Good evening,

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and welcome to the night Cap.
Good to be here, Thanks for having

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me again. Yeah. So title
forty two ends at midnight on Wednesday or

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Thursday morning, whatever, the eleventh, right, right, And and that's

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that's what what that means is that
a Trump era of policy which we're turning

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people away, some people away as
soon as they got to border, before

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they could even ask for asylum,
they were turning them away and heading them

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back where they came from. And
that is going to end. We have

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already according to the reports I've seen, Todd, and you can correct me

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if I'm wrong. I know you
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that the surge has been absolutely incredible. It was bad before, it's been

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incredible the last week before title forty
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on and why is it just too
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So the replacement policy for Title forty
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to be. You might as well
get used to hearing this. If you're

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interested in the border Title eight,
we'll be hearing Title eight expedited removal.

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The administration is talking about Title eight
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do. But the truth is that
there are so many loopholes punched into this

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thing that most categories of immigrants that
tested on May twelfth, Thursday, Friday

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Saturday should find that they would be
released right into the United States and not

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be removed expeditiously. I'm an asylum
claim. The asylum claim will get them

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in, not out. And that's
the key thing to watch for in the

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coming days is will they be Everybody, all the immigrants are going to be

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watching this. I'm watching this,
the government is watching this. Will they

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be released into the interior? I
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interior because I've read all the fine
print and studied the fine print polsty documents.

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It looks like in the days after
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substantial new surges of the immigrants pouring
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The release, that's really what this
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or will we be sent back?
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coming. And I believe that they're
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Yeah, and unaccompanied miners. You'll
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show up with a kid here,
it's a golden ticket. You'll be seeing

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really even single adults without kids also
probably being leased in large numbers. Two.

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Well, we saw just recently,
of course the thrice deported or maybe

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four times deported, um not a
not a citizen the United States, I

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haven't have been thrown out of the
country three or four times, was responsible

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for that mass murder of that family
in Texas. What do we know?

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Do we know more about that?
I know they apprehended him, but well,

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you know they how does he stay
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stays in the country because he happened
to have been living in the largest illegal

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immigrant community in America, in a
region it's an oldiest Texas, in a

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in a colonia that federal officials and
immigration officials will not dare tread. So

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he was able to buy land and
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even though he had been deported a
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Uh So, the problem is when
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and numbers like this, people have
to go somewhere and they set up communities

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like this just forty miles north of
Houston and find safe haven there. And

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that's what happened. There are lots
of cartels active in that seventy five thousand

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strong community of illegal immigrants, lots
of heinous crimes that have already happened there

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that never got any media like this
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got media attention. There's way worse
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I think I'm the only one who's
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the fact that there's this massive,
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there that protected him. So post
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me recently from Dayline Warrez, Mexico. Venezuelans one of the highest volume immigrant

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nationalities who have crossed the southern border
during this mass migration crisis, with five

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million four in national five million four
in nationals border crossers in the country five

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million just from Venezuela. How are
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the asylum system? Todd, Well, no, let me just correct you

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there. It's about three hundred thousand
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okay. But having said that,
Venezuelans often are thought of as fleeing a

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really terrible place, you know,
sure, a cleptocracy, a communist cleptocracy

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with a collapsed economy. But the
truth is is that these aren't coming from

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Venezuela and haven't lived there in years. They're coming from safe, prosperous third

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countries where they've been living for years
and years and decided to come now because

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all their friends and relatives were being
so like, why not upgrade? And

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my point is that the Venezuelans by
large are committing asylum fraud or fraud on

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other federal papers and documents and in
statements to federal officers that they are in

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dire need of humanitarian protection when they're
telling me and interviews, recorded interviews about

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how happy they were, how much
they love their adopted countries of Ecuador or

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Argentina, you know, some of
these other countries where they've been living for

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many years, it's just a chance
to upgrade to you know, move a

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couple notches up, get a piece
of the famed American lifestyle. And if

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they have to tell a few white
lies about asylum that they need asylum or

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politically persecuted somewhere, so be it. And we we're not policing that process

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in any way at all. We're
accepting nine percent of all applicants for humanitarian

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permission slips. And I just wanted
to point that out because Venezuelans. You're

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going to be seeing a lot of
Venezuelans on your TV screen. You already

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have been. They are one of
the largest groups of foreign nationals that you'll

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see down They're coming in, but
they're not coming from Venezuela. They're not

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escaping the communist regime. They've already
escaped the communist regime. And now now

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they want some of the freebies that
the US government is handing out. Yes,

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that's exactly it, and they're going
to get in. They're already getting

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it. Well, isn't part of
todd isn't part of the welcome mat that's

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been thrown out by this administration have
been out for a while, just never

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this blatantly big. As far as
as I mentioned the government freebees, the

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social safety net system that we have
in place in this country, which is

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absurd and obese all on its own, without welcoming people from all corners of

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the globe in to enjoy it,
to ransack it. But isn't that part

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of the problem too, with all
of the social services that we have in

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this country available, that we're just
giving out willy nilly to people who aren't

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citizens, it's a very very powerful
part of the problem. We give everything

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we give these people we fell every
need, free, medical, school,

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housing, clothing, shelter, food, money, everything, and they all

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know it. That's why they're coming. When the City of New York complains

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about all the injuries coming to New
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stop for a minute to consider that
they're putting them all up in five star

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hotels. Yeah, what do you
think is gonna what do you think is

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going to happen? They're gonna send
selfies back and say, God, look

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what's happening. Right, You guys
got to get here as soon as you

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can. This is great. When
the streets are paved with gold and you

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know, so that's part of the
problem is that you know, we are

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parrolling them in for their illegal act, and then they get everything and send

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back word and everybody's comes for it, and all they have to do is

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just say the right combination of lines
with the border, and they're in and

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nobody cares. And by the way, you're right, this is this is

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kind of an old story. This
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years now. I've been going on
your program now for two and a half

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years. Your listeners are probably better
informed in the vast majority of the country.

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But what's different about the end of
title forty two is that the regular

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media, for some reason, is
now covering it. Like NBC is doing

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stuff, what CNN is down in
Elcastle, like ABC, the New York

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Times actually is writing stories about this
thing. And I can't tell you why.

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For two and a half years,
they're suddenly writing about this like it's

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some news story. God, I
have a theory. I have a theory

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about that, Todd. I believe
the reason they're finally covering it is because

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the problem is too big to be
ignored. People are finding out about it

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without them, and with Biden's poll
numbers at such dramatic lows and a new

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election cycle is coming. The mainstream
media networks who've been all in the tank

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for Joe Biden and these policies or
lack thereof of policies, lack of enforcement

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of our immigration laws. They don't
want to be the last ones off the

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ship, so they are jumping ship
now and reporting on what's actually going on,

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which was their job in the first
place. That's what I think.

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Now, that's as good analysis as
on a heard me all right. I

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couldn't believe that I saw c ann
doing report on like they were. The

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reporter was in the middle of a
huge job. I'll passo saying oh my

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god, look at this, Look
what's happening. I've been down and doing

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that way for years. I know
you've been covering this, like you said,

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for at least the last two and
a half years on this program,

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and I hope that you can join
us again for that. We are appreciative

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and grateful and keep your eye on
what's going on, and I know it's

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getting more and more insane every day. The book is overrun. The author

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is Todd Benzman, who works for
the Center for Immigration Studies. You can

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find out the latest news and many
different posts, but also cis dot org.

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Todd, thank you so much and
have a pleasant evening. Thanks for

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having me. I appreciate it.
You bet Todd Binzman Tonight on the night

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Camp News just ahead, and then
a big confab of radio greats. I've

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always loved radio, That's why I'm
doing this now. But some of the

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big names coming up in just a
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Weather News Radio seven hundred wls W
Cincinnati. Gas prices dropping big time.

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This is the nine thirty report.
I'm Matt Reese breaking now good news as

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we head into vacation and getaway season. A big money savings ahead. Triple

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A reporting tonight. Average price of
regular gas and the tries date now down

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to three twenty eight a gallon,
down about thirteen cents and the last week.

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And it's also down about forty four
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A mix of a lowland demand before
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volatility and recession fears. All of
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a row. It's bad for the
economy, is good for commuters who have

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to fill up the energy Department reports
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of regular unleaded went down seven cents
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week in a row of drops.
Americans are now paying eighty cents less per

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gallon of gas compared to a year
ago. Alex Stone EBCAS now the latest

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traffic again, weather together. Fortunately
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the big board tonight, and no
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have a little bit of a delay
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one in the Sparta area. This
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this could be a road construction situation. This is northbound seventy one coming up

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on Sparta near the Kentucky Speedway.
Apparently not an accident there, but you

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can expect a delay no matter what. Now the latest forecast from a train

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heating and Cooling weather Center on news
radio seven hundred WLW. It's rain and

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storms. There's a severe risk too. All threats are on the table.

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Allow a sixty degrees then four tomorrow
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sunny. A high as seventy two
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down to forty eight REVO severe weather
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Tristate. Do have a few showers
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outside of Washington Courthouse between Washington Courthouse
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And our temperature now is sixty nine
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the area of Chesterfield Court and Shady
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around six tonight. No details have
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UC basketball coach Bob Huggins, apologizing
tonight for homophobic remarks he made on seven

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hundred WLW earlier today, says he'll
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employer, West Virginia University says situations
under review may have been planning the attack

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for weeks before opening fire at an
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New information out tonight on the preparations
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mass shooting Saturday that killed eight,
including young children. The thirty three year

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old shooter left a trail of social
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mall weeks before he committed mass murder. He posted a dozen images from the

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mall parking lot. He had screenshots
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mall, upload it last month,
along with boxes of ammunition. The peak

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hours suggested for visiting the molly uploaded
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In other posts, he apparently showed
his tattoos, including a swastika on his

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chest in a Naziss symbol on his
arm. Wall Street. At the closing

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bell, now lost fifty five,
SMP five hundred was up one, and

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the Nasdaq was up twenty one.
It's nine thirty five. Next news coming

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up at ten. I'm Matt Reese
News Radio seven hundred WLW. You don't

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have just an ordinary mom in your
life. She's the best. Her work

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never stops, her sacrifice. It's
now when I finally got the chance to

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connect with the guests. Who was
going to introduce some other guests are Art

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Volo. I didn't know that he
was really Radio's best friend. I'd heard

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his name for years as being Radio's
best friend. Back in nineteen seventy seven,

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Art Volo inspired by Shotgun Tom Kelly
and a video he'd made at KFMB

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and San Diego of the disc jockey
actually in the studio a video air check,

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and then inspired Art Volo to start
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the grates of radio in their environment, in their in their habitat now for

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many decades. And he's got a
bunch of friends. Earlier today I talked

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to Art and his friends. They
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of Detroit radio grates. Art Volo, Good evening, Welcome to the night

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Cap, Hey, Gary, Jeff. It's an honor to be on the

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Big one, seven hundred wl W. And I'm here with a bunch of

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radio people. And the first guy
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just a moment is his name is
Doug Podell. He's known as the Doctor

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Rocky Dot, doc of rock.
It's great to have you on the air.

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Where did you spend the majority of
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most notably know Doug Podel, the
doc of rock? From which station?

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Well it would be wrif I'm an
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the progressive rock stations back in the
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I was in Cleveland for a little
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came calling. So I'm back home
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know, ever since. So it's
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But there's no question about it.
Art is radio's best friend, because they're

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all here today. There's no doubt
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back with radio people and it's a
lot of fun. So dog tell me,

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are you still on the air,
Then yes, I am. I'm

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on the air here on what's called
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l LZ. So I gotta tell
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was on the original Wheels in the
eighties and then they brought it back and

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they came and got me. So
I'm pretty proud. Well that's fantastic.

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Here you're among a bunch of other
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around. I'm want to pass you
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talk to you back to Art.
All right, all right, let me

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bring out we're here to a guy
who is at the station that's as powerful

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as the one we're on right now
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Hello, Gary, Kevin O'Neill.
What what radio station are you on w

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j R. Yes, I am
Gary. I'm on in the afternoon with

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Mitch Album the Mitch Album Show.
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author and writer. And that's the
same thing, I guess. And uh

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hey, we do a great show
every afternoon. We do a lot of

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fun stuff. I write all the
song parodies we do and we have a

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good time. So yeah, we
gotta keep these fifty thousand watch stations going.

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Gary, This is a we can't
let these stations die. They're great

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radio stations. Yeah, well,
do you know tell the folks in your

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state of Michigan to keep putting AM
radios in their new cars. How about

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that? I hope, I hope
so. And God bless you. It

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was so good to get chance to
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to ask you one thing. Since
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these years, how well did you
know the late Ernie Harwell, the Tiger's

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proct I met him a few times, Gary, and I will say this

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about him from the bottom of my
heart. I don't believe I've ever met

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a nicer person. He was just
wonderful and on air, off air,

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he couldn't do enough for his fellow
of human beings. He was that nice

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of a person. So I feel
honored that I did get a chance to

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meet him a few times. Yeah, well, Kevin, a pleasure.

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Keep up the good work with Mitch
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I love music parodies. I've written
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of myself, probably not as well
as you. I'll get your email address

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from Art and I'll send you a
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fun. It'd be fun. Thanks
Kevin, Yes, sir, have a

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great night, you too, Yeah, Gary, he did one just on

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the coronation to the tune of England
Swings like a pendulum do the old.

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Yes, it was absolutely brilliant.
And I'm going to send that to you

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and next up and by the way, we're saving some of the biggest for

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last year, um coming up.
But right now, Tom Ryan, who

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I met when he was answering the
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or whatever at Keener at thirteen back
in the sixties here in Detroit, and

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Tom is a very close friend and
a voice guy for Dick Purton, who

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of course will be coming on in
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in the old days and yeah,
so Dry, Hey, how are you

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doing? So? You were at
WSAI at thirteen sixty right, No,

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no, no, no, no
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and that's when we met when he
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together for seventeen years. We were
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x y Z and then our final
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I did the voices and it was
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and of course when Dick moved on, he had to hire such or

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seven people to do what I did
for well, you know, another Cincinnati

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radio legend was also in Detroit for
many years, actually in Windsor at c

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KALW named Gary Burbank, who's now
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the very talented, the incredible Radio
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It's kind of like the bridge from
c KLW to WLW tonight, and having

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you on is kind of part of
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to talk to you. Well,
thank you very much. And I'm not

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one of the last guys, so
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last. Well, thanks, lod, I appreciate talking to hey. Thanks

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for letting us interrupt lunch. This
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radio grade. These are the These
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And I have been privy to being
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at these lunch and mostly retired legendary
broadcasters like Gary Burbank. Marty Brennaman,

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the Hall of Fame broadcaster, was
there at the last one. I just

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saw Marty here at the studio because
he still does some stuff for seven Hunter

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w l W course the voice of
the Reds for you know, forever.

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And Jim Jim Scott and who worked
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Jim La Barbara the music professor.
So that was that was quite a group

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here in town. Well, you
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you were mentioning Gary Burbank, Well, I've got standing next to me just

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before our last act, believe it
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she will tell you what she did, and she was a very close friend

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of Gary Burbank. You, Hi, Hey, how are you doing Gary?

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I'm great, Joejoe, how are
you well? Listen? This is

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a real privilege to be talking to
you. But I had the privilege to

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be working with Gary Burbank, who
was a wild and wacky, wonderful guy

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to wake up to wall. I
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in the air in my traffic helicopter. So when Gary came to Seakalew,

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he was the top banana, he
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Jojo to join the Sea Kalew crew. I was part of the news department

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of Seakalw and I became the first
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America, the first in North America. In North America that includes the fifty

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thousand wats that beamed into twenty eight
states and six Canadian provinces. And of

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course I was American. My late
husband, Byron McGregor, I'm sure you

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remember that name, was the guy
who interviewed sixty two people and I was

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the last one to be interviewed.
And I only got the job eventually,

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I got the guy. It was
a twenty two. It was a twenty

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two man news department. But think
about it, who did a traffic watch

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never mind on the ground, but
in the air in a helicopter for a

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top forty station. For Byron to
have that kind of insight, He said

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to her McCord, you know,
with their other stations, her McCord was

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our general manager. Other stations already
doing a traffic watch. We need to

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do that in Detroit. It's some
otor city. We have the second largest

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freeway system, second only to LA
in New York, and there's no mass

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transit. So let's put a chapper
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I was that voice in the midst
of twenty two deep voice men in the

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news department. You know, twenty
twenty news. It was legendary in its

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own way. And I got to
work. You know, everybody that's here,

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including the gentleman standing behind me,
is Dick Curtain. He's coming up.

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He's your last guy on this show
them he saved the Vestal last.

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But you know, in my position, I've worked at many stations in addition

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to skalew and I've had a chance
to work with the Tom Ryans and the

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Kevin O'Neil, and then J.
P. McCarthy's and I'm WITHP Dick,

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and of course I've done radio and
TV, but I am so thrilled that

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our guy, our bolo can keep
us together. And it's a real honor

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and privilege to be talking to you
and doing the interview. And Garry's in

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town. He's in Cincinnati, so
he'll be listening tonight. We all will

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fantastic, fantastic Jojo shutting McGregor from
c KALW and Detroit, the first female,

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the first female helicopter TRAVERCK reporter in
North America. This is such a

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gas guys. All right, So
so who we got next? All right?

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Well we say like we said,
the best trial last and Gary Jeff

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this is the infamous. Now,
when he was in Cincinnati, he was

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known as Paul Curtain because he I
think was on after there, right after

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Dick Wagner, so he was Paul
Curtin. When he came to Detroit,

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he was on just before Paul Cannon, so he had dropped the Paul and

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you'd be Dick Burton, which he
was for forty five years. And Garry

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is the legend. Uh, thank
you? Who the hell are you talking

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about, well, I'm talking about
right now, Right now, Dick,

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we're talking to you. This is
Gary Jeff Walker at seven out WLW and

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Cincinnati, a town you know very
well from long ago at WSAI. Were

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you one of the good guys,
Dick? Apparently? How good I don't

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know, but yeah, yeah,
I was. I was one of those

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guys, you know, seeing you
beatles and all that stuff? Right were

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you? Were you at WSAI when
Jim Scott was there? Did he come

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along later after? No, I
think Jim Scott may have replaced me in

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the mornings. I probably think,
Yeah, I don't think I ever missed

406
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:05.039
him. Well, I got I
got a quick story about Jim Scott,

407
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.679
and then we'll get more to Dick
Burton's story. And just because I got

408
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:13.280
a couple of extra minutes. Uh. We moved into our new state of

409
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.920
state of the art studios up here
in Kenwood back in about two thousand and

410
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:23.639
four, and they had they had
a performance studio built for like bands that

411
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:28.800
would come in and they would play
live acoustical stuff here in the studio for

412
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.760
the music studio. So one day
we're just moving into the building into those

413
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.719
studios and Jim is looking inside the
window of the performance studio, and I

414
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.199
said, Jim, does this remind
you of your early days and radio back

415
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:47.199
in the thirties when they had live
orchestras and Jim Scott was always known as

416
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:51.519
mister nice guy. But he looked
at me. He looked at me with

417
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.800
a grin and night's face and said, blank you and just smiled and walked

418
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.920
away. It was the real It
was the best. I guess he belie.

419
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.639
I got I gotta I gotta blank
you from Jim Scott and nobody else

420
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:09.840
got that just because I was because
I oh man, But so Dick,

421
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:13.880
what was that? What do you
think was a highlight of your radio career?

422
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.480
Did you have one thing you can
you can pick out and go that?

423
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:22.440
Man? That was really the the
zenith And I'm kidding that at the

424
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:30.320
playing softball for the ninety nine softball
team at w SAI, and we would

425
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.400
go out and play charity games.
And I loved doing that. We had

426
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.760
more fun doing that than doing radio
stuff. I was a great station.

427
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.360
I loved SAI. I did yep. Yeah. Well he also worked for

428
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.039
six months? Was it? And
was it even that long? In Baltimore

429
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.400
and came months. Six weeks.
You missed by one, did I?

430
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.320
Five weeks? Five weeks he left
its right for a big fifty thousand one

431
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.679
station in Baltimore w B A L. And just to show you the love

432
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.440
we have in our business, didn't
you tell me? There was a line

433
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:08.000
down the hall where the television people
didn't dare come over to the radio side

434
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.760
of the building advice. We were
all in the same building. There were

435
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.440
three floors, and we were forbidden
by the Matt general managers of Radio L

436
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.039
the guy who fired me after five
weeks. L Burke could not get off

437
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.280
on the second floor, which was
CV w B A L TV could not

438
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.400
do that, so we had to
go all the way straight up, which

439
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.880
is fine. I didn't care about
getting off from the second floor anyway.

440
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:36.639
And but that's what we did.
Yeah, And there was one problem after

441
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.920
the other after the other after and
so I called Joe Baccarella w X y

442
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.960
Z and he had already offered me
and I had turned down a job,

443
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.960
and I said, Joe, either
I'm leaving here in three weeks or five

444
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:51.119
weeks or ten weeks, I didn't
know how many weeks. But they're gonna

445
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.519
fire me or I'll be fired or
I'm just gonna quit it, And as

446
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:00.079
I turned out, I was fired. He used it. He used a

447
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.400
non w BAO word. I did
her, I did, And do you

448
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.079
remember what that was? Yes?
And this is not something you'll have to

449
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.599
believe, Gary, but tell him
what words you is? Well, it's

450
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:19.039
spelled guts, as in gus.
I was interviewing at Gino Martelli at the

451
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.119
Baltimore Coast where you had been with
the Coast. By this time he was

452
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.960
retired, but he was His ficher
was in paper that an operation big Daddy

453
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.920
Lipskin had stepped on his foot and
ten years earlier, and he finally had

454
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.800
it fished. And I said somewhere
in the conversation something about gus. I

455
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.360
have no idea, and Albert called
me in after then he said, you

456
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:44.880
used a non w b al word
today. What I said, I did

457
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:50.280
Hell? Well you can imagine if
he's chastising me for using a non w

458
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:57.199
pao word. Um, what word
was that? Hell? And clients of

459
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.679
words? I think it And he
said guts. I said guts. He

460
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.840
said you can't say that at the
station, So I understand. I said,

461
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.760
I didn't know that beforehand. But
my favorite story really that kind of

462
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:15.280
time. Well, it doesn't time
with it, but was one one morning

463
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:16.840
I call the way I'll broke after
ten when I was off the air,

464
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.079
and he said, uh, he
said listen, He said, every morning

465
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.920
at seven twenty you do a commercial
for Western Electric of Cockies film. I

466
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:30.000
said, I do, and he
said, well, I've heard you do

467
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.199
that. I don't want to hear
you do any lines about cockies film.

468
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.280
I said, well, have you
heard me do any lines at all?

469
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:38.519
I am? And he said,
well, no, I am, and

470
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:43.760
he leaned back, he popped up
his pipe and uh. He said,

471
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.599
well, I'll want to know you
what. Maybe every now and then you

472
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:52.480
can do a line about about cockey
Cockies film. And I said I can.

473
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.360
Okay, fine, and he said, but don't ever do the a

474
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.000
line about the time that send Miles
mc cocky's film N new involved with at

475
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.079
that point, I was probably three
weeks involvement. I said, one word

476
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.000
is is not far from Cockeysville.
You don't mean to use all He said,

477
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:14.559
Dickysville. And I that's true.
Look on the map, Gary,

478
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.559
Jeff, there really is a Cockiesville. Yeah. And the Dickysville, and

479
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:24.000
they're nearby. Yeah, intercourse,
Pennsylvania above him in you know, you

480
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.840
know what here here and here in
this here in the Pennsylvania Dick. Here

481
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.880
here in the Cincinnati area, Dick. In northern Kentucky. There's Big Bone

482
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.920
Lick State Park and there's Beaver Lick
State Park, and they're right next to

483
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:45.079
each other. I kid you not, Dick Purton. She doesn't want to

484
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.039
hear that talk. What a pleasure
to speak to you tonight. Thank you

485
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.920
so much, well, thank you
Gary, very kind. And let me

486
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.599
tell you that mister Purton is too
modest to say it, but he is

487
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:01.039
raised for the Salvation Army with radio
thons in this town. So many million.

488
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:07.360
How many million dollars have you raised? I'm told of we hit forty

489
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:12.960
three million maybe last year. That's
a lot of my power of radio still

490
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.440
in this day and age. And
here we are on the number one station

491
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:21.760
in an AM station at foot in
Cincinnati and number one in the market.

492
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.480
And we're proud to be on your
show. Art, thank you so much

493
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:30.360
for being radio's best friend. Art
Volo and the gang h Man enjoy the

494
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.679
rest of lunch. Thank you,
guys, Thank you very much, Thank

495
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.920
you very much. I take care, I got a roll. It's the

496
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:45.840
Nightcap on seven HULW. No,
that's amazing. Bess Niflovic was a flight

497
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.400
attendant for Yugoslav Airlines on a flight
to Belgrade. For plane exploded and she

498
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.159
felled thirty three thousand feet to Earth
without a parachute and survived. No,

499
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:01.920
that's just as amazing. Are Eddie
and Rocky. They serve up the good

500
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:08.639
times and help you kick back after
a long day. No, that's Eddie

501
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:17.840
and Rocky More Afternoon three, seven
hundred WLW Welcome back into another hour of

502
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:24.400
the Nightcap here on seven hundred WLW
and my only show in May is spotlighting

503
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:29.079
one of our favorite, not just
favorite guests, but favorite people in the

504
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:35.400
entire world. The hostess spouting off
and a frequent contributor to this program,

505
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.519
the one and only Karen Cataline joins
in how you doing KK? You know

506
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:46.679
I'm Gary Jeff. You are just
so overly is the word obsequious? I

507
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:50.800
don't know what the word is,
but you are too kind, too generous,

508
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.920
and you make me blish. Oh
well, my praise for you can

509
00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:02.840
be effusive, but it's because you
deserve it. I wanted to start with

510
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.440
this. I know you want to
talk a little bit about the really creepy

511
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.360
thing that went on in England over
the weekend, and we will get to

512
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.039
that, but I wanted to bring
up just a headline that just came across

513
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:22.639
this afternoon, and it's one of
those dull no kid in moments story out

514
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:30.000
of the Epoch News, Local and
private COVID maxine vandiates of vaccine mandates or

515
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.320
maxine vandates. I like that better. Maxine vandids. I knew her in

516
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:40.159
high school. Maxine vandids vaccine mandates
for patients and health patients and healthcare workers

517
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.400
being reversed, overturned across the US. In other words, these medical institutions,

518
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.039
like some of the most staunch.
They're saying, no, you can't

519
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.920
get an organ transplant. You haven't
you haven't gotten a jab. It won't

520
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:57.079
be safe for you to get a
transplanter for us to operate on you.

521
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.840
University of Michigan just drop that policy
either, one of the biggest transplant centers

522
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:07.880
in the country. It's amazing that
you couldn't get a life saving transplant at

523
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:13.440
many of these facilities over the last
three years if you didn't have or two

524
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.239
and a half years if you didn't
have this poison injected into your body.

525
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:21.519
So you can't get a life saving
transplant, which may be your only hope

526
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:27.880
to live without a life taking jab
that could kill you with myocarditis or sudden

527
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.000
heart attacks or strokes, or blood
clots or any of the other things.

528
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:35.679
And that's the one thing if you
receive a transplant, the last thing you

529
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:40.400
need, or blood clots, Karen
in bad places. But why did they

530
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.000
do this in the first place,
and what did they achieve now that they're

531
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:53.280
waking up to the fact that people
aren't afraid of COVID anymore. The question,

532
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.760
as you answered, it has nothing
to do with what they said it

533
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.159
was about. But just to cut
to the chase, and then I'll backtrack

534
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:08.079
a bit. God, when you
you you told me about this story,

535
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.719
and I probably saw something like it, because it's like drinking like from a

536
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.480
fire hose these days. Anyway,
Sure all I could think was, it's

537
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:23.880
like Rosanna, Rosanna, Danna,
never mind. Yeah, And we're not

538
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:32.039
talking about penny little nothings. We're
talking about people who probably died because of

539
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:37.320
government policies. And you can't call
it overreach. You have to call it

540
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:45.920
government dictators who imposed unrealistic, outrageous
things on the public, and then with

541
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:52.239
a flick of a button they go
never mind, no accountability, no apologies,

542
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:58.840
no clarification, no commitment to the
truth or to clarity. We are

543
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:02.360
supposed to just take them at their
word. Once again, how many times

544
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.760
can people be lied to and say, oh, well, it's nothing,

545
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:19.840
they changed it. Now. I'm
flummixed by people who have survived to adulthood

546
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.000
without having any discernment about the character
of others. I'll just leave it at

547
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:28.119
that. Oh, that's an excellent
point, a really good point. You

548
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:32.159
know. You know who dictators really
like his Maxine Vandids because she was easy

549
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:38.239
and for a dictator, that's to
you, Yes, that's what that's what

550
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:42.639
we need. But you know,
it's like you and I talked about in

551
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:47.199
May of twenty twenty on this program
on this station, Karen, we said

552
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.840
at the time, and we were
in agreement. These people will never apologize,

553
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.960
They will never admit that they were
wrong. They never admit that they

554
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:59.880
caused way more harm than any good
that could have been done by the law,

555
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:04.159
downs the mandates of the vaccines and
all of the rest, and we're

556
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.480
seeing it now as you just mentioned. No, no, I'm sorry,

557
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.079
No we were wrong. No,
we just changed it. Please change the

558
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:17.599
problem. I'll tell you what.
They will also never admit that obedience,

559
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:29.199
and I guess the word is jumping
the shark with government force. Yea persecution,

560
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:34.599
intimidation and the lack of respect for
human life, which we're seeing everywhere

561
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.639
was the point. That's what they
can and will never admit. None of

562
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:45.239
us was accidental. That's the part
that's so hard for any good decent person.

563
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.719
You know, none of us are
perfect, but some of us strive

564
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:54.000
at least to try to be decent
and to give credence to right and wrong.

565
00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:00.960
And the ugliest part is they're trying
to take away all reason, you

566
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:06.360
know, as if these things happen
in a vacuum. That's the problem.

567
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.119
It's like, oh, well,
now, if you talk to a true

568
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:14.880
believer, a zombie, a gullible
person who's still wearing masks. I went

569
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.519
to the store today, they're still
wearing masks there. You know, that's

570
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:24.360
their sign of pure and complete gullibility
and fear. If you ask them,

571
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:29.000
they'll say, well, you know, they just wanted to be careful.

572
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:36.679
They will always justify the unjustifiable,
and even the division in America also works

573
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.960
in their favor. So they're trying
to play a gambit on us, and

574
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.960
I'm increasingly beginning to believe that it
is not going to work. But we

575
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:54.480
are facing just the most massive kinds
of deception and corruption that has been out

576
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.159
there in the open for everybody to
see. You don't have to be a

577
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.039
conspiracy theorists. All you gotta do
is well, our time's really short tonight.

578
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:07.719
And I apologize for that, sorry, but no, I just wanted

579
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:13.280
to real briefly mention what went on
the tradition that was continued in the United

580
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:17.079
Kingdom over the weekend. I'm watching
that on my Saturday morning show. I'm

581
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.800
sitting in the studio and I just
had the TV on. Somebody had had

582
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.559
the TV on the coverage of the
coronation thing, and I'm watching it,

583
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:30.360
and I'm watching all of the ring
kissing and the procession and all of that,

584
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:36.280
and watching Charles get a crown put
on his head by the archbishop and

585
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.960
the fitting the crown and the whole
thing, and I just thought, man,

586
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:44.119
this is one of the creepiest things
I've ever witnessed. And Charles with

587
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.639
these beady eyes looked like he was
getting away with something he knew he shouldn't

588
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:55.280
and he probably was. Well he
shouldn't. I didn't watch one second of

589
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.559
it. Yeah, not one second
of it. I did love you know,

590
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.679
some of the summation of Naomi Wolf, who talked about some of the

591
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:10.079
departures from past traditions that were really
creepy. But you see, making men

592
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:17.480
into kings and lords and lording over
others is creepy. It ought to be

593
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.960
creepy itself, especially to Americans,
you know, Earth to Americans. We

594
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:30.199
fought a war over this, and
so right, you know, the globalism

595
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:34.599
that says we're supposed to care.
Let's just not play that game. I

596
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.239
didn't. I didn't watch it.
Hey, Karen, thanks for playing with

597
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.320
me tonight. We appreciate it,
dear, Always a pleasure. Thanks to

598
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.719
good Karen Cataline dot com. If
you want to find out more or find

599
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:51.239
her programs. It's a nightcap and
Vincent Everett Ellison is next. A good

600
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:55.800
day starts with a good morning.
Here's Lacy. She starts her day with

601
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.920
free range eggs, Free range Tofu
and free range verbal Tea. Then it's

602
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off to the yoga mat where she
feeds her mind with Mike McConnell. Good

603
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.599
Morning. She does the downward Dog. She gets the latest news, weathered,

604
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traffic, sports, and Mike's morning
Charm. Just look at her smile

605
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.079
as she does the happy Baby.
She is basking in Mike McConnell. Delight,

606
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Mike McConnell. Tomorrow Morning at five
seven WLW, low testosterone affects me,

607
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he shows because of the Red's broadcast. But joining us now is Vince

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Everett Ellison. He was born on
a cotton plantation in Haywood County, Tennessee.

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His parents sharecroppers through their own hard
work and believe in Jesus Christ.

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They raised them and Vince and his
seven siblings out of poverty. They began

611
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a gospel group where Vince sang and
played multiple instruments, and today Vince is

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an author and also a documentary maker. The new documentary is Will You Go

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to Hell? For me to explain
that title and to talk for a few

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month minutes tonight, Vince Everett Ellison, Good evening, sir, Hey,

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well val, you're doing good to
be with you. Thanks for having me.

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This is not our first time,
it's been a couple of years,

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but it's great to have you back. I've been trying to get you back

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on the program actually for a while, but couldn't make contact with you.

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So I'm glad we're together again.
First and foremost, Vince, you have

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you've written books in the past about
the evils of Democrats, mainly because of

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the policies that they support, and
in this new documentary your self position is

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and I believe it is true that
those who consider themselves Democrats and also consider

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themselves Christians are putting their eternal souls
in jeopardy by continuing to vote for these

624
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:53.239
Democrat politicians who overwhelmingly support the killing
of unborn babies and the mutilation of children.

625
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:59.159
Correct, Yeah, you are absolutely
correct. We no longer have polity

626
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.679
disagree with the people. This,
this has gotten real. And this is

627
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.639
for people who consider themselves to be, you know, believers in Jesus Christ,

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00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.360
people of the book. If you
don't believe, you're an atheist an

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00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:13.800
agnostic, this is not for you. But but eighty five percent of black

630
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:15.840
people claim to be Christians. Seventy
pipers of white people claim to be Christian

631
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:21.400
and this is for you, um, your your your listeners have been correct,

632
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.920
and this documentary proves that they've been
correct. The Democrats have been calling

633
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:32.880
Christian conservatives homophobes and racist and uh, you know, people that hate people

634
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.039
don't care about the poor for years. This documentary proves that the Democrats are

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the ones who are that way.
And I say emphatically that you cannot vote

636
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.239
for the Democratic Party in the way
that there is now a party that believes

637
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:52.039
are not myth abortion which is murder. A party that m launch a cast

638
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:57.840
trade little boys and call them new
girls. A party that brings drag queens

639
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:02.679
into the public school system. A
party that wants to have men participates against

640
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:07.639
women in girls sports, and allow
sementic grown men to go into the bathrooms

641
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:12.280
with women and little girls. This
is the Democrat Party today. It is

642
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:16.000
an evil institution, but it always
has men. So your your your listeners

643
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.519
can go to where you go to
help. From meet dot com. They

644
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.199
can view the trailer. Before Turk
took the calls, some left fons muse

645
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.679
he considered he allowed me to debut
it on his show, and he says

646
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.599
the best trailer he had ever seen
and he said the movie is awesome.

647
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.239
And the movie is awesome. It
gives information about the civil rights movement and

648
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:37.599
about how Marthuth King Junior was compromised. Now the communists there took over the

649
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.039
Black Church and led the Black Church
to help these communists and Marsters take over

650
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.920
the Democrat Party who's now trying to
destroy America. America's dying. This is

651
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:51.719
not hyperbole. If you look at
our birth rate right now, it's a

652
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:55.000
little two point oh, it's got
to be at two point z to replace

653
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:59.760
the parents that have children, right
Pats have two children. It stays even

654
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:01.960
right now, we're about one point
six, which means we're dying as a

655
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:07.840
nation. While we're dying. LGBTQ
comes about maybe twenty percent of the of

656
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.239
the child ring. People in gend
right now say that they're the LGBTQ.

657
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.119
Our generation is basically an exam so
now to twenty percent of them say that

658
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.960
they always means that happening. They're
not having children. And then they have

659
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:22.760
this crazy aboting policy where they want
to abort everybody in America if they can.

660
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:27.719
And America's dying. If we want
to save our nation, if we

661
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:31.119
want to have grandchildren as we get
old. We need to step up now

662
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:35.920
and save our children from this beast. And when we talk about I think

663
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:37.599
that democratic poth is the beast of
our Bible. Talks about it. There's

664
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:43.079
a beast all they doesn't It's meditate
on blood, and it's controlled by a

665
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:49.599
cabal of murderers, liars, perverts, and anti Christian biggots. All.

666
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.000
You know, you're preaching of the
choir here. But the Black community,

667
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:59.639
in particular Vincent, has been sold
this bill of goods and it still votes

668
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:05.119
over overwhelmingly for Democrats. Although that
that tide is turning. But what would

669
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.559
you what would you like to tell
your black brothers and sisters in this country?

670
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.519
Well, that tide is telling me
because these people like me and you,

671
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:14.280
and thank you for giving me this
opportunity, for coming on your show,

672
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:19.400
and and and and and and for
talking. I would like to remind

673
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.840
them that Jesus told us, which
is supposed to please God, not man.

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00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.320
I know that marn Luther King Junior
has been placed upon a pedestal,

675
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.800
and that the black community follows a
lot of his teachings, but a lot

676
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.079
of his teachings are completely in error. I will give you an example,

677
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.639
because I have a dream speech when
he said, one hundred years after Man's

678
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:40.519
face the proclamation, the Negroes still
not free. That's not true. That's

679
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:45.360
a lie. I was born free. God gave me my freedom. It's

680
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:49.719
an unagilable right, according to John
Locket is irrevocable, non transferable, and

681
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.960
unsellable. Uh. And Jesus said
that once you become my child, I

682
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:57.360
freed you. So black Christians can't
say that Dad, that that dare not

683
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.840
free walking around the street screaming we're
not free. He told us that we

684
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:04.239
should have a dream that one day
we won't be judged by the color by

685
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:07.760
skin, about the country of our
character. That's ridiculous, because God say,

686
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:09.800
I'm not supposed to be toncerby how
man abuse me. I'm not supposed

687
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.480
to be walking behind a white racist
asking him not to judge me by the

688
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:15.360
color of by skin. I was
supposed to love him, and if he

689
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:20.320
puts his hands on me, you
don't have another problem. See we we

690
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:23.119
we we we we We've been taught. We've been taught a lie, and

691
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:30.199
we've been taught to follow behind man
and marching in the streets asking for reparations,

692
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.000
begging for this, begging for that, as opposed to going to God.

693
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:36.079
So what I want to tell them
to do, if let's go back

694
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.800
to our Bible, go back to
what Jesus told us, Because he told

695
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:43.800
us when was asked, how do
you know a false prophet? He shown

696
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:45.920
You'll know him by the fruity bands, by his fruit. You will not

697
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:50.639
get good fruit from a riding tree
or bad for fruit from a good tree.

698
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.079
Each tree and fruit will be after
his own. If the Black community

699
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.760
it's bad fruit right now, and
they say that they are the tree it

700
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.559
came from that to be bad and
he has MARDs the King Junior Civil Rights

701
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.519
Movement, we have to go back
to Jesus Christ and leave man alone.

702
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.039
How much damage do you think that
DLM did to the black community in America?

703
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:12.119
They did exactly what they're supposed to
do. They want to put us

704
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.400
back on the plantation. They want
to destroy the family, the same thing

705
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.320
the Democratic Party wants to do.
Look, as long as we vote ninety

706
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:20.199
percent for the Democrat Party, they
don't care what happened. They do not

707
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.519
care. They what they see us. They see the city as a plotting

708
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:29.280
at the cotton plantation. And their
job is to do just like they did

709
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:34.159
by during during the Civil War and
the Antebellum sound, keep black people on

710
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.119
the plantation doing what they're told.
And right now, back then they wanted

711
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.079
to pick cotton. Now they wanted
to move for the Democratic Party. And

712
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:44.679
if you go to the inner cities, if you think the Democrat Party is

713
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:49.000
any good, just like John Kennedy
said, if you think that communists any

714
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.840
good, let them come to Berlin
when steid that when you stood about the

715
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:53.440
Burlian the Wall. Well, I'll
tell you this. If you think the

716
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.840
Democrat parties any good, go to
the inner city, go to Destroit,

717
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:02.440
go to Baltimore, go to Washington, DC, go to Philadelphia, go

718
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.719
to New Orleans. Everywhere they rum
black people. They beat him in the

719
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.440
ground, they treat e, let
the dogs, They destroy the family to

720
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.079
trap their children, the family schools
get armed. Him going, they can't

721
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.760
defend themselves and let the drug uses
and the drug dealers run the street kicking

722
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.360
that doors in vincent is. This
is this is this function and we have

723
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.360
to change it. Go to will
you go to help from me dot com?

724
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:28.480
Thank you? Will you go to
helprom me dot com? And watch

725
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:32.960
and watch this trailer. Definitely will
and definitely a great pleasure and a blessing

726
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.079
to have you on the program tonight. Vincent Everett Ellis, Will you Go

727
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:40.599
to Help from Me dot Com?
Is the documentary, and in it he

728
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:45.320
asserts that if you vote for these
people who are behind these pro abortion and

729
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:51.679
these pro mutilation policies, you are
an accomplice to that crime, to that

730
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:55.079
sin. Thank you so much,
sir, No pleasure, brother, thank

731
00:58:55.079 --> 00:59:00.519
you, thanks for having me.
It's the nightcap and it rolls on with

732
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:07.320
the furball changing gears. Next on
seven WLW News Traffic and Weather News Radio

733
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:15.639
seven hundred WLW Cincinnati, Title forty
two about to end with migrants at the

734
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:21.679
border with the ten thirty report,
I'm Sean McCormick breaking now thrones of migrants

735
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:28.000
crossing the US Mexico border before the
COVID era immigration policy Title forty two ends

736
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.119
later this week. Under the provision, migrants are forced to wait in Mexico

737
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:37.880
as their application for US asylum is
reviewed. ABC's met Rivers is across the

738
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:40.320
border in Warez. A lot of
the people who are there behind me have

739
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:45.440
chosen to cross the border now because
starting Friday, there will be a series

740
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:49.280
of new rules put in place.
Anyone who's applying for asylum here at the

741
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.719
United States border needs to follow those
rules. And if those new rules,

742
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:57.159
they're complicated, are not followed,
then these migrants run the risk of not

743
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.800
being allowed to re enter the United
States for at least five years, in

744
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:06.599
addition to being deported back to their
home countries. Now the latest traffic and

745
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.599
weather together. The ramp to I
seventy five northbound to seventy four, US

746
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:19.280
fifty two westbound and US twenty seven
northbound close due to some repairs. Left

747
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.679
lane is also blocked on I seventy
five south at I seventy four due to

748
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:28.719
repairs. Now the latest forecast from
the Train Heating and Cooling Weather Center on

749
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:35.760
news Radio seven hundred w l W. The forecast from the forecasters at nine

750
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:40.320
News Tonight, chance of showers and
thunderstorms, mainly before two am. Then

751
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:45.440
it's going to be mostly cloudy overnight
at a low of fifty eight. Now

752
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:49.920
Tuesday, cloudy through mid morning,
then gradual clearing with a high seventy one.

753
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:54.239
Tuesday night mostly clear a low of
forty eight Right now, Radars clear

754
01:00:54.239 --> 01:01:00.400
except a few patches of rain up
around Mason and Lebanon areas, moving over

755
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:07.800
towards Blanchester right now as well.
It's currently seventy degrees. Both West Virginia

756
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:14.320
University and the Mountaineers basketball coach Bob
Huggins have delivered apologies in response to the

757
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:22.400
former UC coaches comments regarding Xavier University. The homophobic remark occurred while Huggins discussed

758
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:28.880
the UC Xavier rivalry earlier Monday on
WLW. In his apology, Huggins states

759
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:34.360
he fully accepts any consequences and stated
his shame and embarrassment to anyone he hurt

760
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:39.960
by the remark. WVU statements stated
the remark does not represent the university values

761
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:45.119
and that situation is under review.
Our next update is at eleven o'clock.

762
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:52.639
I'm Sean McCormick. News Radio seven
hundred WLW seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,

763
01:01:52.079 --> 01:02:00.320
available everywhere with the iHeartRadio app number
one for podcasting. Seven d WLW an

764
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:05.559
iHeartRadio station. I'm Martin Hooch,
the in I have been waiting for this

765
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:12.400
moment, Yes, the highlight of
my night. Maybe we'll see what happens

766
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:16.920
over the next eighteen seventeen minutes.
Or so, the one and only sports

767
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:22.920
voice who I can never agree with. Andy Furman, the Great Furball,

768
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:27.480
joins us on the nightcap. Andy, welcome back to the show. It's

769
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.000
been such a long time. I'm
glad you were available this evening on the

770
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:35.480
night before your hip surgery, which
is gonna occur tomorrow. Now, is

771
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:37.679
this like a colin ospie or anythink
you have. You have to drink a

772
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:42.400
bunch of gross stuff and not eat
or anything. No, is a matter

773
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:47.159
of fact. You cannot drink or
eat anything after midnight. And that's about

774
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:51.920
I guess an hour and a half
two our right exactly, So I can't

775
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.159
do that, and you know,
and tomorrow, four hours before the surgery,

776
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:57.320
can't do it. Then you can't
smoke. I have not had a

777
01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:04.159
cigar in about two months. Oh, because because of the fact that you're

778
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.400
you will bleed hibots healing, you
will bla plaid more easily. Yeah.

779
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:14.039
Nice, I'll celebrate, I guess
around maybe first week of June, Memorial

780
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:15.519
Day. Maybe I'll light one up. We'll see, who knows. Oh,

781
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:20.079
you know what, My next night
show, Andy, is on Memorial

782
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:22.880
Day night, So maybe by then
we'll be able to do radio again and

783
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:29.400
we can celebrate with a with a
victory cigar, you and me, the

784
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:31.679
two of us. No, I
mean yeah, I thought, yeah,

785
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:36.719
go ahead. I'm sorry, you're
gonna say, I'm good. I'm just

786
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.119
so excited to tell you it's been
it's been how long three weeks? Well,

787
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:43.599
oh, at least at least three
or four weeks. And my wife

788
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:46.800
is starting to rather hear us.
They'll listen to Red Baseball to be honest.

789
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:50.639
Oh no, now you're getting into
a cannon worms here at the home

790
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.679
of the Reds. Come on,
the Reds are on the radio, baby,

791
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:57.599
and they're on the radio right here
on the nation station, the big

792
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:02.440
Roun seven LW good. So you're
a good soldier. You're so. You

793
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.719
had some you had some qualms,
and you weren't the only one over the

794
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:15.320
weekend with a weather situation that coincided
with one of the big outdoor events in

795
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:18.039
Cincinnati every year, maybe the biggest
running event for sure in this town.

796
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:25.000
And this is a running town,
believe me, The Flying Pig Cincinnati,

797
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:29.599
right as I as I woke up, as I woke up Sunday morning,

798
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:34.880
as I woke up Sunday morning,
getting away from your awful, awful gastric

799
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.280
humor. Uh. As I woke
up Sunday morning to the downpour that was,

800
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.400
I said, oh man, those
people are out there right now running

801
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:47.400
the fly as I called it.
Told my wife it's the swimming Pig marathon

802
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:54.719
this year, and it almost wine
the swimming swine exactly seven swines is swimming.

803
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:57.920
And there were a lot more than
that, like eighteen thousand people who've

804
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:02.000
trained and prepared and gotten ready for
this one day over the last year.

805
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.760
And you're telling them that they should
not run the race. Well, let

806
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:11.280
me back up for a second.
Number one, I think the event is

807
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:15.840
tremendous and I've been involved in I've
ran the ten k at least three times,

808
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:17.400
maybe before. I never ran the
marathon, but I ran the ten

809
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:19.960
k, and I think it's a
great event. It's a great event for

810
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.840
the city. They subsidized charities.
You know, I'm going to go on

811
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:27.679
and on and on. It puts
us on the map. It's a worldwide

812
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:30.480
event. Now you've got like forty
thousand freaking people there yesterday. That's a

813
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:34.440
great thing for the city. However, they made a mistake, and they

814
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:39.320
made a mistake last year too,
and I'm not ashamed to admit when I

815
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:42.519
make a mistake, but I think
when people make mistakes, they should come

816
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:45.239
up there, be honest and say, look, I screwed up. And

817
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:49.440
I didn't hear anybody from that organization, the Flying Pigs, that they screwed

818
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:54.280
up last year when I had a
sixty year old kid race and by the

819
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.599
way, that's six year old kid
again race this year with his father and

820
01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:01.159
you can see pictures online. He
wasn't registered to race. Okay, they

821
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:08.519
said it won't They won't stop for
a second. What the hell was wrong?

822
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:12.079
What did something happen to the six
year old kid last year when he

823
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.960
raced? They didn't want him.
Medical people did not want him racing.

824
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:21.440
Something did something happen to the six
year old kid wrong? That's like saying

825
01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:26.039
I went through a red light and
nothing happened, so continue to go through

826
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.119
a red light. That's the most
aston not excuse I've ever heard. He

827
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:32.320
wasn't supposed to run, and now
is in and the story nothing happened.

828
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:36.119
Thank god, nothing happened, Andy, Andy, I didn't my wife and

829
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:43.000
I did not get any of the
poisonous COVID vaccine jabs, and nothing happened.

830
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:46.920
So were we wrong? We were
we wrong to not give because nothing

831
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:51.199
happened? Did anybody give Andy?
And no, it wasn't. It was

832
01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:56.400
being it was being mandated. It
was being mandated across the country by the

833
01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:00.119
government and corporate organization. So it
wasn't my media because you will permitting the

834
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:04.280
work. That's right. And they
were ready to stand me down, but

835
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:10.960
they did not. So nothing happened. So different analogies. No, no,

836
01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:14.679
no, no, did anybody case
the race officials did not have won

837
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:17.159
a sixty year old racing. That's
number one? Did anybody? Number two?

838
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:24.199
Did anybody get struck by lightning yesterday? Or drowned in the swimming swine

839
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:28.199
marathon in Cincinnati? And with that
Lawchic, I'll go and say maybe basically

840
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:31.559
baseball should play their games in the
rain. FC Cincinnati should play when there's

841
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.440
lightning out there and take a chance
that maybe no one will get struck.

842
01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:38.599
Let me just say one thing.
I'm not the smartest guy in the world,

843
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:42.320
as you know, but when I
hear Steve Horsmeyer, who basically all

844
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:46.639
he has done his entire life is
study and deliver a weather forecast for forty

845
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:53.079
five plus years he went on record
today and I've never ever heard Steve Horsemeyer

846
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:56.880
say anything to the contrary like this. He just delivers the weather as a

847
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:00.320
pro and that's it. On Channel
nineteen Bailey he said this morning, he

848
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:04.840
said, in his forty five plus
years of giving weather forecast, it was

849
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:11.920
the most irresponsible situation he has seen
to permit this group to race number one

850
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:18.239
number two. Channel five removed their
camera people from the site at six thirty

851
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:24.239
am Sunday morning for fear of lightning
strikes. So, yes, there's a

852
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:28.279
problem that they raised that race.
Now I went back and did some research.

853
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:32.840
Did they ever in fact cancel marathon
races? Yes? In twenty fourteen,

854
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:40.279
the Minneapolis Marathon was canceled for weather, The Saint Jude Marathon was canceled

855
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:45.439
due to weather and safety conditions.
The Blue Ridge Marathon was canceled due to

856
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:48.960
severe weather in April of twenty twenty
three. So what has happened? So

857
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:55.960
when I hear Iris Bush Simpson,
the CEO, president, chairperson, whatever

858
01:08:55.960 --> 01:09:00.600
the hell he does, but his
marathon say we can't cancel it if everything's

859
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:04.239
in order. What's more important someone's
help or your sponsors there, that's all

860
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.920
I'd like to know and if by
solar Irish Bush Simpson, I would ask

861
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:13.479
her face to face, would you
racing it? Here's here's my po and

862
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.600
the story. Here's my other analogy. Why shouldn't it have been the people

863
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:20.840
who were going to race? Why
shouldn't have been their prerogative? They can

864
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:25.840
see lightning in the sky, They
can make that determination for themselves, Andy

865
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.119
White, and they get to cancel
the option. You're right, No,

866
01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:33.800
you're like your run is the option
that they didn't have to run. However,

867
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:39.359
I will tell you this, these
runners who have come from other countries

868
01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:43.119
to be here, who have trained
three hundred and sixty five days a year,

869
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:45.800
do not want to not run.
They want to run, but they

870
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:49.600
want to run in safety conditions.
They were people who are running and twisted

871
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:54.800
and almost break broke ankles by going
to the potholes that were full of water.

872
01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:58.319
And that's not even lightning related,
because water related. No, there

873
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:01.079
was a bad situation. That's the
end of story. No, that's that's

874
01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:05.119
related to the fact of the city
of Cincinnati can't fix the frigging potholes,

875
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:09.640
right, that's what and that's what
that's related to. So I don't even

876
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:13.479
hear about anybody twisting their ankle because
of the weather. Andy, that's a

877
01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:19.039
weak excuse. Full of water.
Yeah, but that's that's what happens when

878
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:24.800
it rains. The potholes fill up
with water. Rights, But if there

879
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:27.560
was no rain garage up, that
be no water in it, all right.

880
01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:30.800
That's like saying, you know,
if the queen has testicles, he'd

881
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.840
be the queen right Well, no, no, really that that that actually

882
01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:36.560
may be an argument very very soon, the way the world is going,

883
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.159
Andy, I know, I know, I don't want to lead you into

884
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:46.520
something wet swimmers with testicles who are
swimming right now against women. So let's

885
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:50.920
let's not use that that joke.
It's ridiculous. You're right, But I'm

886
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:56.520
just saying, there's nothing wrong with
saying humane a mistake. You're wrong.

887
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.880
And I when I hear and see
and read what Iris Bush Simpson has said

888
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:03.800
that it's a tough situation. I
had to live with the you know,

889
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:08.800
you're the boss, the fox doesn't
you and you've made a mistake. That's

890
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:12.359
a thank god, thank god,
no one's struggle with lightnings. I watched

891
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:15.079
Channel nineteen last night and Ethan I
forgot his last name. Ethan does the

892
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.079
weather at night? He had a
lightning strike? Are you he live?

893
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.439
Hold on? Hold on? Are
you in the payroll of Fox nineteen.

894
01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:25.680
That's about the third time you've referenced
that station. Of course, you know

895
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:30.640
ours the chief because our station,
our station that we operate with, is

896
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:32.840
the nine first Warning Weather Center.
And I don't want to give them a

897
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:40.279
short CPO I have. I have
not nobody better than you know. I'll

898
01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:45.560
take Steve Rawleigh over Steve Horsemeyer any
damn day of the week. Steve Rawleigh,

899
01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:48.159
we talk about Steve Rawley has to
be a good friend of mine.

900
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:54.479
We go to the to the Montgomery
and Cigars, and he's a good I

901
01:11:54.520 --> 01:11:58.079
love him. However, he has
not said boom. He's not said I'm

902
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:03.000
quoting what Steve Horsmier said. Steve
robably hasn't said anything. When did Steve

903
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:09.560
Horsemeyer become a policymaker for the Flying
Pig Marathon? Oh? I know was

904
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:12.199
this? He tweeted? And I
read the tweet. So I'm telling you

905
01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:15.239
what he said. And he's got
forty five plus years experienced broadcasting weather and

906
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:19.800
the story. I've got forty three
years of experienced doing radio. And that's

907
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:25.359
about the stupidest argument I've ever heard. Oh really, you will probably sleeping,

908
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:28.520
And what are the stupid that guys
are professional meteorologist. He knows what's

909
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:34.479
going on the radar. I did
happen to watch nineteen because it was on

910
01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:39.800
at ten o'clock last night, and
I watched it and they had minute by

911
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:44.680
minute the radar what it was like
at six thirty am. They showed it.

912
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:47.279
And you can't tell me that,
Irish. But Simpson was not privy

913
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:51.840
to that material. Come on,
really, use this us pressure by sponsors,

914
01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:55.560
and she said, let's get it
done. Do it. And I'm

915
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:59.479
telling you right now there are the
other marathons that are canceled due to severe

916
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:02.439
weather. And believe it or not, yesterday was a severe weather. I'm

917
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:06.199
sorry. Okay, Well, I
will tell you that when I woke up

918
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:10.399
Sunday morning. I woke up early
Sunday morning. Usually I try and sleep

919
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.119
in because I've got a long day
on Saturday, you know, early in

920
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.159
the morning, up here doing the
Saturday Show and then being at the bar

921
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:19.600
all day long, you know,
slinging drinks for Hillbillies and others. So

922
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:23.640
I try to sleep in both say
that those are your customers. Call them

923
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:27.640
kill billies. Yeah, no,
some of them were flat billies. Anyway,

924
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:32.560
I got up. I got a
Sunday morning early because of that beautiful

925
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.119
sound of the thunderstorm. I love. That was very comforting. Now I

926
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:40.359
wasn't out running in it when you
were in bed. Yeah, it's company

927
01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:42.479
when you were in bed, you
know, when you were in jim shoes

928
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.000
a rate to run. But I
mean, shouldn't I have gone down into

929
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.479
the basement just because the lightning can
strike right in your window and killed you

930
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.720
in your house, and you know, but you know what you know,

931
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:53.760
and I didn't take you didn't take
a basive act. Now you're making fun.

932
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.279
Now you're playing. Okay, I'm
not making that fun of anybody who

933
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:01.000
got hurt. Because nobody got hurt. That's fine. You know what if

934
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:04.359
if we want to go by your
logic, let's go on I seventy five

935
01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:08.600
and I seventy one and go one
hundred miles an hour for a week because

936
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.199
no one's gonna get hurt. Maybe
no one will get hurt, so we

937
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:14.600
could do that. That's your logic
as all as no one because let's play

938
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.840
with guns. If no one gets
hurt, it's hard. That's hard to

939
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:21.560
get Hurt's how a logic is that
it's hard to drive it. It's hard

940
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:27.119
to drive on ice seventy one if
you haven't noticed lately without having to go

941
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:30.720
eighty miles an hour in your car
because otherwise people will run you over in

942
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.520
the slow lane unless you're doing it. Nature of the beast is to prevent

943
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:38.960
someone from getting hurt. Safety first, that's the nature of the beast.

944
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.880
Prevent someone from getting hurt. Not
do it and say, oh, we

945
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:46.239
didn't get hurt. That's assinine.
That's asked backwards. Well, I mean,

946
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:50.000
the only reason that they were wrong
and and myopic on this andy it

947
01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:54.439
was because someone had gotten struck by
lightning. Then they were opening all kinds

948
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:58.720
of lawsuits, so that wouldn't have
been good. Well, I would tell

949
01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:02.880
you this much. It's a good
thing that maybe they didn't. Maybe that

950
01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:06.760
they didn't do that because you're right
about the lawsuit situation. I don't know

951
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:11.840
if someone could sue the Flying Pig
Marathon. Maybe they could. I guess

952
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:14.680
you could because you're registered to run
and you're paying. I guess it's their

953
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:16.720
event. I don't know, I
really don't know how that works. I'm

954
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.000
not an attorney. All I know
is this, they need to take caution.

955
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:23.159
I think in anything you're doing,
you take caution. You know.

956
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:27.199
Here's the deal. You go to
a Reds game, they scare you to

957
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:30.399
see if you have a gun on
you, right you get into the bluepark,

958
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:32.520
they do that. In other words, no one got hurt for me

959
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:34.880
to take guns in there. Let's
not do it. That's not the thing.

960
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:41.079
It's safety first. They got precautions. That's what they do. Precautions.

961
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:44.279
You're taking a chance, That's all
I'm saying. And again, thank

962
01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:45.560
god, no one got hurt,
no one got struck by lightning. But

963
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.199
I'm telling you right now, when
you make the mistake a year ago with

964
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:51.720
the sixty year old, do you
make the mistake kind of a poor judgment

965
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:56.159
this year and the sixty year olds
in there again? Oh, evade,

966
01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:01.039
no, come on. Is totally
totally on the parent. It's the parents

967
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:05.760
responsibility. It's not the states or
the flying pigs responsibility to make sure six

968
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:12.239
year olds don't run. No,
it's the parents' responsibility. He ran with

969
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.039
his parent, He ran with his
dad, said it was okay, and

970
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:19.439
he ran with his dad the marathon. I think that's totally the way it

971
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:23.800
ought to be. The dad said
it's okay, but it's not his marathon.

972
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:29.680
To say it's okay, it's year
old, it's his southern Andy,

973
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:32.800
Come on, I don't care if
it's his mother in law the Flying Pigeons.

974
01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:38.079
I want a six year old kid
racing, and the kid was back

975
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:41.359
there this year. Although not registered
to run, he still is in there.

976
01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:45.760
And they should have seen that.
A good look, A good look.

977
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:49.640
Oh you're worried about optics again,
mister optics. Listen before we go.

978
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:55.359
I just wanted to show are you
are? Are you are nervous about

979
01:16:55.399 --> 01:17:00.039
your hip surgery in the morning,
No, well would I'll be sleeping about

980
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:04.439
everything. You're nervous about six year
old with his dad's consent and running in

981
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:11.680
the Flying pig You're a nervous guy. You're a neurotic because Christ's Hospital has

982
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:15.520
the best Italian ices in the world
and I can't wait to get him well,

983
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.680
Andy, God bless you will.
We will be praying for you to

984
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:23.520
come through your hip surgery. But
if not, I am saving this interview

985
01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:30.720
so you know we will be playing
it in the fur Ball Memorial the next

986
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:33.199
the next show when your next show, so Memorial Day night, that's the

987
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:36.560
next one. You should be recovered
enough to do radio with me again.

988
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:40.279
Well you know what, I may
call you Saturday morning to let you know

989
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:42.239
I'll be in good shape. Man. All right, yeah? Please?

990
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.760
Do we like the updates? All
right? The fur Ball on the Nightcap

991
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:50.199
on SELW. I'm making a concerted
effort to better myself. That's why I'm

992
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:55.479
finally doing it. I'm learning to
speak chimpanzee. That's also why I listened

993
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:59.079
to Scott Sloan. He's smart,
funny and takes on the topics that affect

994
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.039
me and my family. I face
the same problem as you do, so

995
01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:04.199
let's talk about them and I have
a little fun along the way. Woo,

996
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:11.640
that's chimpanzee. Or listen to Scott
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997
01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:15.119
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998
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:19.640
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1000
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:30.880
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1001
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:35.399
US Constitution, it's our government's right
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1002
01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:41.760
God given right for us to keep
and bear fire arms. And one of

1003
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:45.760
our favorite guests and a lot to
talk about, especially in the wake of

1004
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:54.079
some very very highly media profiled shootings
in the last couple of weeks. Specifically,

1005
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:57.600
Dan was joins us on the Nightcap. How you doing, Dan,

1006
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:00.319
Hey, Gary, Jeff, thanks
for having me on the show. It's

1007
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.640
always great to talk to you about
this stuff. It's pretty important, and

1008
01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:11.039
thank you for for you know,
speaking out about it. It is extremely

1009
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:14.720
important. And it's important to note
that a lot of people either forgot or

1010
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:17.960
just didn't know this because most of
the mainstream media will never report it,

1011
01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:23.880
is that Joe Biden was, as
a senator, one of the people who

1012
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:28.159
was behind this this crime bill that
was passed, and one of the things

1013
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:33.880
that this allowed was gun free zones. Infamous shooting Sandy Hook, We saw

1014
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:39.600
what went on in Parkland, Florida, what went on in Uvalde, Texas.

1015
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:45.319
All of these were quote unquote gun
free zones. And they're they're actually

1016
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:49.680
doubling down on this, aren't they. Dan. Yeah, And you might

1017
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:56.960
argue that Columbine could have been almost
a direct result of Joe Biden's Gun Free

1018
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:00.239
School Zones Act. So what happened
there people don't know is back in nineteen

1019
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:06.439
ninety, Joe Biden introduced the Gun
the Crime Control Act, and in it

1020
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:13.880
was the Gun Free School Zones Act, which basically removed all firearms from campuses.

1021
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:20.039
Now, they had provisions for elected
or selected people to security guards and

1022
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:24.760
things like that, but for the
most part, schools jumped on board with

1023
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:31.279
the anti gun narrative and they and
they pretty much went unarmed and helpless ever

1024
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:35.239
since that law. That bill was
signed into law in nineteen ninety. So

1025
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:42.359
what happened is since then, school
killings have doubled and they increase at twice

1026
01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:45.239
the rate of increase every ten years. So we get more and more school

1027
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:53.079
killings because and you can argue it's
directly related to Joe Biden's nineteen ninety Gun

1028
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:57.479
Free School Zones Act. I've been
trying to shine the spotlight on this,

1029
01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:00.920
and it's something that Democrats don't want
to talk about, of course not.

1030
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.720
It's a direct result of that,
and we need to we need to get

1031
01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:09.640
that repeal and we need to get
armed security, and we need to be

1032
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:15.560
able to our to let teachers and
staff who are inclined to carry a gun

1033
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:21.279
do so on campus. I have
a sister in law in Nashville to teach

1034
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:26.000
us for a public school little kids, and she was just, you know,

1035
01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:31.159
in the wake of the private school
shooting there a few weeks back at

1036
01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:35.880
this Christian academy in Nashville. You
know, we went to visit mom and

1037
01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:41.279
dad and saw Cecilia and her husband, my brother, and she was just,

1038
01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:46.319
Oh, she's apoplectic. She's insisting
that you've got to get guns off

1039
01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:50.079
the streets. You've got to get
guns out of the hands of everyone in

1040
01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:54.479
the country to keep the children safe. And the fact that she was having

1041
01:21:54.560 --> 01:22:00.880
to go undergo security and safety training, you know, to try and thwart

1042
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:03.640
these attacks, was just devastating to
her. I shouldn't have to do this.

1043
01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:09.039
I got in this to educate students, not to be a security guard.

1044
01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:13.800
And she just was what do you
say to people like that. They

1045
01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:19.720
have no offense to your family member, but they have no sense of reality

1046
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:25.199
when it comes to guns. They
are so scared of guns, and it's

1047
01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:33.560
an irrational fear when they have no
understanding of how destructive it would be if

1048
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:38.960
we lost our gun rights. If
we lost our gun rights, the government

1049
01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:43.680
would come in and completely take over, the take over the population. Government

1050
01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:46.760
would control every aspect of your life. And I think the people who are

1051
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:51.000
irrationally scared of guns because of the
media, because of the anti gun fear

1052
01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:58.920
campaign, I think they just don't
understand, and they if they do start

1053
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:02.880
to understand, they get pushed back
from their side that keeps them in line.

1054
01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:10.239
It's a very tough psychological battle that
we're that we're having here to try

1055
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:15.960
to educate people and try to get
them to understand the importance of guns in

1056
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:19.640
our culture. It's the most important
thing because without guns, without the right

1057
01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:24.920
to have for citizens to have guns, we have no freedom. I firmly

1058
01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:28.159
believe everything you're saying, and I
stand behind you one hundred percent. In

1059
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:30.039
fact, i'd stand in front of
you if if I had a kevlar vest.

1060
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:35.439
But I'm sitting here talking to Dan
was tonight in the Nightcap. What

1061
01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:41.840
I'm what I'm thinking is even even
me having some understanding in our conversations and

1062
01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:46.359
in my understanding of the Constitution,
and how important, how invaluable it is

1063
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:51.640
for any one of us, as
American citizens to own and bear firearms for

1064
01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:56.920
our own protection and for our families
protection, our properties protection, and that

1065
01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:02.279
should be protected. I have noticed
an increasing amount of publicized so called mass

1066
01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:09.760
shootings, and we had another one
in Allen, Texas over the weekend at

1067
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:17.399
the outlet roll. Those shootings are
beneficial to the to the well primarily the

1068
01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:23.399
Democrats, because without those shootings,
they have no justification for gun control.

1069
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:29.119
So every time you see the thing
is once you get I've been I've been

1070
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.560
in this argument now for a good
number of years, and I understand the

1071
01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:39.279
thought process of the anti gun crowd
once you understand that they're not really their

1072
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:45.800
intentions are not to help save lives
and protect children. As your family member

1073
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:49.560
might be your family would you say
it was your sister, my sister in

1074
01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:55.399
law, sister in law. She
might be very well intended. She doesn't

1075
01:24:55.479 --> 01:25:00.880
want to and I completely understand that, But the problem is she's been misled

1076
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:05.760
by a group of gun grabbers who
who really don't care about the lives of

1077
01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:12.319
children. They're they're more interested in
getting guns out of the hands of lawful

1078
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:17.039
Americans, patriots, American citizens.
The American gun are they want to disarm

1079
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:21.399
the population. Now, your sister
in law may not get that piece,

1080
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:26.319
and I understand that because the media
is so good at what they do.

1081
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:31.399
But that, but they're not to
summarize, they're not necessarily interested in saving

1082
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:36.479
lives as much as they are removing
guns from their political opposition. Well,

1083
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:41.880
of course they always point to other
countries and gun restrictions, and you know

1084
01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:45.920
Australia has often given as an example. See now, in Australia, they

1085
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:49.720
basically banned anyone from carrying a gun
out in public and the murder rate's gone

1086
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:56.359
down. Is that factually accurate?
Dan? Actually, what they did there

1087
01:25:56.359 --> 01:26:00.960
were two major gun bands in Australia
and they the reason they and the guns

1088
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:03.199
first, it was a rifle band
as a pistol band, and the reason

1089
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:08.720
they did that was because it was
under the guise of stopping suicides, which

1090
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:13.800
was their narrative. And what happened
with suicides was it didn't go down.

1091
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:20.920
It did nothing. The gun bands
did nothing to slow the rate of suicides

1092
01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:27.039
in Australia. They've done this in
several countries. It also does nothing to

1093
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:31.640
stop violence. It will however,
it might it might have some effect on

1094
01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:38.000
stopping violence with guns because guns are
more are harder to get, but it

1095
01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:44.279
doesn't stop or slow the rate of
violence because people use other means. So

1096
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:47.479
are we going, are we really
trying to stop violence or are we just

1097
01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:54.079
trying to stop violence by gun?
Because if we're just trying to stop violence

1098
01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:58.960
by gun, it's clear to me
that we're really just trying to eliminate guns.

1099
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:04.239
But the guns will never be eliminated
in this country from people who have

1100
01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:12.279
who people who have nefarious plans with
their guns, because again, the guns

1101
01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.920
are not in and of themselves,
they're not evil, they're inanimate objects,

1102
01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:21.399
they're they're basically tools of protection for
people. And how many times in all

1103
01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:30.319
of these just widely publicized hysterical head
on fire mass media short stories about mass

1104
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:35.960
shooters, how many times has the
person who has been directly into, you

1105
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:41.680
know, allegedly committed these crimes.
How many times have the perpetrators of these

1106
01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:45.840
crimes been an NRA member, a
Gun Owners of America member. How many

1107
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:51.520
times has there been a just a
sane, normal, law abiding citizen who

1108
01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:59.399
never has even thrown any kind of
shown any kind of confunction to do something

1109
01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:02.279
like this been the one who's been
accused of it. Never there are people

1110
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:08.199
who have been you know, their
family said no, this person's insane,

1111
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:12.359
and they've been able to get a
gun. And so now the fact that

1112
01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:17.079
law abiding citizens are being held their
feet to the fire and their rights being

1113
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:23.760
challenged and taken away in these places. They're not committing these crimes, Dan,

1114
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:30.800
No, they're not. And I
can guarantee you that in any every

1115
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:38.479
single situation where a gun was used
to cause harm on another individual, I

1116
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:42.000
can guarantee you that the gun had
nothing to say about it. Yep.

1117
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:47.039
It's always the person who's taking the
action. And just to clarify what I

1118
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:54.119
said earlier that you know, you
can take away the gun, but you

1119
01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:58.720
can't. But it does nothing to
reduce violence. And I thought, according

1120
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:01.920
to the gun grabbers that we were
supposed to be reducing violence. They're not

1121
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:04.800
trying to reduce violence. A matter
of fact, come to my state of

1122
01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:12.359
New York and you'll see my originally
appointed Governor hokel letting prisoners out of jail

1123
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:15.479
from with early release and bail reform
and all sorts of things. They're not

1124
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:21.520
trying to stop the violence. They're
actually encouraging it. While trying to disarm

1125
01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:29.439
the law abiding citizen because we're their
political opposition, right exactly, and they're

1126
01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:32.520
treating us like the purps. They're
treating us like the suspects. We are

1127
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:36.600
the threat to them, not the
people who are the threat to us.

1128
01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:43.520
It's really a strange dichotomy world we're
living in right now. Dan was just

1129
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:48.319
remember what they did during COVID and
imagine what they would do if the American

1130
01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:58.439
population was disarmed. Frightening, absolutely
frightening. YEA, yeah, yes,

1131
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:02.479
our guns, our guns are keeping
us free, and we're also protecting the

1132
01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:10.960
liberals and the leftists and the Democrats
who vote for this garbage. We're also

1133
01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:17.319
keeping them free. So there have
been some court successes in defense of the

1134
01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:24.239
Second Amendment in both Illinois and in
Washington State you were telling me about,

1135
01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:28.640
Yeah, so you know, they
back up just a little bit in brief

1136
01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:31.560
everybody again. Nineteen ninety four,
there was a so called assault weapons ban,

1137
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:39.600
which was promised by Bill Clinton to
again stop violence if we banned these

1138
01:30:39.640 --> 01:30:44.479
so called a salt weapons. They
so they passed this law. Clinton signed

1139
01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:47.399
it into law, and it was
it was scheduled to sunset ten years later

1140
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:51.479
if it proved to not stop violence
or even slow violence. And it did

1141
01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:55.439
exactly that. It did nothing.
It didn't slow violence at all. So

1142
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:58.600
at sunset it ten years later.
In other words, the so called a

1143
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:02.279
salt weapons ban did nothing. It
didn't work. So what are they're trying

1144
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:05.880
to do it? They're always trying
to do it again because somehow, somehow,

1145
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:10.760
now it's going to be different.
Um. The truth is they just

1146
01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:16.039
want to get rifles out of the
hands of civilians. So Illinois just signed

1147
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:23.520
into law another assault weapons ban,
and Gun Owners of America went in and

1148
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:28.520
just recently a lot of weeks ago, one a preliminary injunction, which means

1149
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:31.159
it's kind of like a restraining order
on the state. Um, So now

1150
01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:34.319
it's gonna go to appeals and it's
gonna it's gonna go through that whole process.

1151
01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:42.239
Washington State, UH, just signed
in a similar law, a similar

1152
01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:47.920
bill into law, another assault weapons
ban, and the Second Amendment Foundation and

1153
01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:58.119
Firearms Policy Coalition both went in with
lawsuits for preliminary injunctions, and I suspect

1154
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:01.319
that they will get their prelimits.
Marion Johnson's as well in Washington State.

1155
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:06.560
Wonderful news. I mean when the
system works. It works. When it's

1156
01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:13.319
broken, then we all suffer.
And these laws work to break the system

1157
01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:16.079
that we've all come to know and
love and appreciated in the Land of the

1158
01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:19.680
Free. Dan was, as always, what can people of? Where can

1159
01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:24.439
people find you? Where can they
look for you? Because you're so authoritative

1160
01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:28.920
on the subject. You know about
guns, and you know about these insane

1161
01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:35.600
laws that they're trying to pass,
you know on people's emotional scars and the

1162
01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:41.520
things that they're subjected to daily by
a media that is playing right along with

1163
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:46.079
the gun grabbers. Where can people
find Dan was? Well, thanks so

1164
01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:48.720
much Gary Jeff for having me on
your show. I really appreciate it.

1165
01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:53.439
You're doing a great job. Keep
up the great work. People can find

1166
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:58.479
me at good Gun, Bad Guy
dot com. Good Gun, Bad Guy

1167
01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:01.800
dot com. I also for Amland. You can go to amal Land dot

1168
01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:04.960
com and you can find my articles
there, and you can find my web

1169
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:11.520
show at loaded Mike dot com,
Loaded Mike mc like microphone dot com.

1170
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:14.880
Well, thank you so much for
your time again, brother, and keep

1171
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:19.720
your powder dry. I'll talk to
you all right. Dan was tonight on

1172
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:23.720
the Nightcap. Great to talk to
him. As always, I mean,

1173
01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:28.800
somebody who actually knows what he's talking
about on the subject, instead of all

1174
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:33.199
of the emotional vampires that are trying
to suck the life out of the argument

1175
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:41.039
and take your ability to protect yourself
and your family from criminals, from foreign

1176
01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:48.840
adversaries and domestic adversaries. As in
the federal government. Who's really behind all

1177
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:57.079
this this gun grabbing uh not people
trying to end violence. As Dan pointed

1178
01:33:57.079 --> 01:34:01.880
out quite succinctly, We'll continue moments
on seven hundred WLW. I'm in my

1179
01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:05.920
apartment. I was all alone,
feeling a little so I figured, hey,

1180
01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:11.119
why not? So I got comfortable, leaned back in my office chair,

1181
01:34:11.159 --> 01:34:15.760
and then I see a Holton Missus
Green on the fire escape listening to

1182
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:20.319
seven hundred wlw's live stream on the
iHeartRadio app. Maybe shocking for some people,

1183
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:24.640
but it's the perfect way to listen
to the Big One wherever you are.

1184
01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:28.600
It's not like I'm the first guy
to ever do this. Listen to

1185
01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:33.359
seven hundred WLW anywhere anytime on the
iHeartRadio app. Yet, Mom, when

1186
01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:38.560
she's begged for all these years a
clean home, and Mom deserves nothing but

1187
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:43.159
the best. Zero's carpet and air
doot cleaning may outside of Memorial Day night.

1188
01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:45.880
So I got a wild to wait, So let's get going without any

1189
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:50.479
further Ado, I t guy the
man. I coined the term mad Hatter

1190
01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:57.640
for that now everyone is using because
you know, you may think that he's

1191
01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:03.239
got some aluminum foil hat ideas about
security in the digital age and AI and

1192
01:35:03.359 --> 01:35:08.039
the Internet of things world, and
he does, and it's a good thing.

1193
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:12.479
That's not mad, that's just sensible. Dave Hatter talks to us about

1194
01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:15.800
some of the latest developments in the
cyber's space. How are you doing,

1195
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:19.960
Dave, I'm doing good, Gary
Jeff, it's always thanks for having me

1196
01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:24.960
on. How you doing doing fine? Man? Just ready to stretch my

1197
01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:28.239
legs a little bit. I'm afraid
I'm a little rusty. I've been out

1198
01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:32.600
of practice here for nightcaps anyway.
So first story that caught my eye and

1199
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:40.600
dragged a twelve feet was I cloned
myself. Tell me about this. Yeah,

1200
01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:43.479
this is something I've been warning about
for some time, Gary Jeff,

1201
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:48.720
And honestly, it's my biggest concern
from an immediate standpoint with all this AI

1202
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:51.880
tech. You know, if AI
going to wipe this down in the long

1203
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:57.800
run, maybe is it going to
impact society and particularly you know, create

1204
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.159
and take jobs. Ye, I'm
pretty sure it will. But you know,

1205
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:03.640
right now, it's very easy to
go out and get your hands on

1206
01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:09.039
technology that anyone can access for free
or at very limited costs. There's a

1207
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.439
bunch of sites like this where you
can do this, where you can clone

1208
01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:15.520
your voice, and that's what this
writer is referring to. It's a Wall

1209
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:17.920
Street Journal story, and there have
been several other writers. I've seen articles

1210
01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:21.800
show up on a couple publications where
they've tried to demonstrate this to warn people.

1211
01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:26.359
So when again, when you look
at this from a cyber security angle

1212
01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:30.319
and the idea of cyber crime and
fraud, whether it's the Grandma scam where

1213
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:34.439
you get a call and it claims
to be your grandson or granddaughter and they're

1214
01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:39.520
in jail and they need money,
or it claims to be your boss authorizing

1215
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:43.760
the transfer of funds like the thirty
five million dollars bank fraud in the UAE.

1216
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:47.960
This technology exists, it's easy to
access, and it's pretty good.

1217
01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:51.760
I have fooled with it myself a
little bit. I've seen plenty of examples

1218
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:56.319
like this writer here where she cloned
her voice. In some cases, as

1219
01:36:56.359 --> 01:37:00.760
little as three to seven seconds of
audio will be enough, whether you read

1220
01:37:00.800 --> 01:37:03.600
a thing they have you read to
you start the process, or you actually

1221
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:08.800
just have audio of someone's voice,
maybe a voicemail, maybe something of the

1222
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:12.600
video or audio they posted on Facebook
or something. I mean, it's never

1223
01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:16.000
been easier to have access to this
stuff, and you can create very convincing

1224
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:20.520
realistic clones of people's voices. And
as this writer and several others of showm

1225
01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:25.159
they've used it to fool their family
members, They've used it to call their

1226
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.880
bank. You know, a lot
of banks, Gary Jeff have that automated

1227
01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:30.600
system where you can call and you
know, talk your way through, like

1228
01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:34.279
the prompts and so forth. So
I'm glad you brought this up because I'm

1229
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:39.039
really concerned about this. I think
people are going to get your businesses and

1230
01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:42.960
individuals posts are going to have lots
of money stolen as a result of this

1231
01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:47.840
technology, because I don't think people
realize how good this stuff is and frankly,

1232
01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:50.600
how easily available it is. Well, Dave, will it come to

1233
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:57.800
a point where banks just stop the
voice activation altogether because of this threat?

1234
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:01.119
My guess is arey, Jeff,
They will have to and I think it's

1235
01:38:01.119 --> 01:38:03.319
going to happen soon or read it
than later. Again, you know,

1236
01:38:03.359 --> 01:38:08.479
this is not some fly by night
conspiracy theory website. This is the Wall

1237
01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:13.079
Street Journal doing a you know,
a major story on this and demonstrating how

1238
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:15.279
the technology can be used. There
was a story. I think it might

1239
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:19.680
have been Vice, but I don't
remember where the writer was in Europe and

1240
01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:23.800
his bank with Voyds of London,
and he called He did a similar type

1241
01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:27.199
of thing and was able to call
in and work through the prompts using the

1242
01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:29.880
voice that he cloned, you know, his own voice that he cloned.

1243
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.319
What to say? Ah. So
the technology is here again. People can

1244
01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:39.439
go find these things online. Many
of them are free. And again I

1245
01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:44.119
think you'll be shocked at how good
these things sound today. So give it

1246
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:46.319
a year or two, give it
three years. As good as it is

1247
01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:49.840
now, we are rapidly heading into
a point where you will not be able

1248
01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:54.119
to tell the difference. And you
know, increasingly that's true, whether it's

1249
01:38:54.159 --> 01:39:00.520
audio, video, photos, texts
from something like catchpt But this thing,

1250
01:39:00.520 --> 01:39:03.960
in my mind is the most damaging
from a crime standpoint, because if you

1251
01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.880
get a call at three o'clock in
the morning and it claims to be your

1252
01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:10.640
kid and they're in jail and they
need money or they've been kidnapped. I

1253
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:13.760
mean, and this is a fairly
common scam. If you look this up

1254
01:39:14.359 --> 01:39:16.760
and it sounds just like them,
you know, are you really going to

1255
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:20.479
question that? So one of the
things I've been recommending to people. I

1256
01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:25.000
had someone suggests that the knee GARAGEYFF
and I recommend that people start to do

1257
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:27.880
this, as crazy as it sounds. You need to have some kind of

1258
01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:30.720
pass raise with your family. You
know, back when I was in the

1259
01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:32.279
Army, if you were on guard
duty, there would be like a running

1260
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:35.039
password, and if someone came,
you know, at you in the dark

1261
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:39.279
and they didn't know the running password, it didn't work out too good for

1262
01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:42.399
them. But I think you need
a need think you need a similar kind

1263
01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:45.800
of thing here where if you get
a call claims to be your boss,

1264
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:49.199
claims to be your daughter, your
grandson, whomever, Especially if it's requiring

1265
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:53.760
some sort of urgent action and there's
some kind of financial, you know,

1266
01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:58.319
thing involved, you need to have
some kind of pre arranged passphraise that they

1267
01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:00.399
need to know or some sort of
question you need to ask that only they

1268
01:40:00.439 --> 01:40:04.399
would know, so that you can
try to verify the authenticity of the call.

1269
01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:10.159
So in other words, something like
if they don't say funny bunnies are

1270
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:14.720
sissies, then you know it's not
them. Yeah, something like that.

1271
01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:17.600
As crazy as it sounds, I
mean, that's where we're at now.

1272
01:40:17.680 --> 01:40:24.640
Grey. Yes, this next story
Dave Hatter about Selena Gomez at the twenty

1273
01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:29.199
twenty three met Gala and the look
the dress he was wearing and when viral

1274
01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:34.600
on Twitter, Selena Gomez wasn't there. Well, this is this just speeds

1275
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:40.159
right into that, so it's a
perfect segue to another similar topic. So

1276
01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:43.840
you'll hear nerds like me use the
term synthetic medium, which is sort of

1277
01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:47.239
the umbrella phrase for any kind of
content created, you know, entirely by

1278
01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:50.159
a computer. It could be text, it could be audio, could be

1279
01:40:50.279 --> 01:40:55.560
video, could be photos. And
here's a perfect example where after the Met

1280
01:40:55.600 --> 01:41:00.279
Gala, a photo of Selena Gomez
was posted that had almost twenty three million

1281
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:02.920
views and she wasn't even there.
So this is some kind of you know,

1282
01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:06.760
whole cloth synthetic medium. You often
hear the term deep fake, but

1283
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:11.199
usually that has a more pejorative nature, and it's, you know, something

1284
01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:15.439
obviously faked for some kind of malicious
purpose, followed a deep fake if you

1285
01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:17.359
want, but a photo that appears
to be of her at this event.

1286
01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:20.960
She hasn't been there for years.
She was not at the event. And

1287
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:24.560
then the second angle of this.
But I think it is important because if

1288
01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:26.199
you look at the photo, it
looks real to me. I mean,

1289
01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:29.279
I'm not a huge Selena Gomeres fan. I don't follow her a career.

1290
01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:31.520
I can't tell you that I would
easily be able to point out a false

1291
01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:35.560
photo of her under anytime. I
don't care about any pictures from the met

1292
01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:40.319
Gallas. So there you go.
I'll top you one there. But I'm

1293
01:41:40.359 --> 01:41:45.159
sure it was fabulous even though it
wasn't real, I'm sure it was.

1294
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:48.520
And the photo, though again almost
twenty three million views, it got more

1295
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:53.319
views and comments and so forth on
social media than photos of people that were

1296
01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:56.880
actually there, which then gets to
the now you have, you know,

1297
01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:02.039
deep fake synthetic media content that spreads
by really over social media. If this

1298
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:09.319
were the presidential election or a congressional
election, could you know a completely holpluff

1299
01:42:09.439 --> 01:42:15.359
synthetic photo video audio of a candidate
seeing or doing something horrible, be dropped

1300
01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:19.039
right before an election and then be
spread via social media like this was,

1301
01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:24.640
And how would you debunk it?
Well, you know, and in terms

1302
01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:27.960
of you know, yeah, timing, well, you know. And they've

1303
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:32.399
already done this with Donald Trump showing
pictures of you know, men handcuffing him

1304
01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:39.000
and wrestling him down, and and
they've done it with Kamala Harris videos,

1305
01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:44.239
which are just as stupid as the
actual videos of Kamala Harris. I might

1306
01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:48.560
add uh talking about tomorrow and you
know, and doing her word salad thing,

1307
01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:53.600
but it was a totally faked video. So it's already going on in

1308
01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:58.000
that public sphere, not to a
great extent, but it shows you what

1309
01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:02.560
can be done. And the thing
I wonder about, Dave is say you're

1310
01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:08.079
you're arrested, you're charged with a
crime, and you're on trial, and

1311
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:14.560
then you can bring some of this
this generated media showing you were at another

1312
01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:17.800
place at another time, completely and
fool the judge and the jury. What

1313
01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:23.159
about that? I think that's another
problem too, garage aff and it cuts

1314
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:27.079
both ways, right, could synthetic
media be used to frame you for a

1315
01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:31.039
crime you didn't commit? Video,
so called video of you committing a crime

1316
01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:36.479
or vice versa. Could you use
synthetic media to generate some type of content,

1317
01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:41.039
video, audio, whatever, that
would indicate that it wasn't you.

1318
01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:44.239
So yeah, I think that's going
to cause a lot of upheaval in society

1319
01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:46.920
as well. And that's one of
the reasons why I appreciate, you know

1320
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:50.359
so much the opportunity to talk about
these things with you, Because as far

1321
01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:55.399
fetched and crazy as this stuff sounds, you know, I'm a'm not making

1322
01:43:55.399 --> 01:44:00.000
this stuff up. It's all real. It's easily verifiable. Again, all

1323
01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:03.199
of these tools or variants of it, whether it's the photo creation tools,

1324
01:44:03.239 --> 01:44:08.520
the video creation tools, the audio
creation tools, are all easily available right

1325
01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:11.720
now. Anyone can do just the
Google search. Well, don't use Google,

1326
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:15.199
use dot dot go, you know, protect your privacy as best you

1327
01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:17.840
can. But you can easily access
these things and play with them, and

1328
01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:21.560
I think people will be absolutely shocked. None of them are perfect, none

1329
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:26.279
of them are without their issues.
And like the voice cloning thing I fooled

1330
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:29.800
with, it doesn't sound exactly like
me, but I think it's close enough

1331
01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:32.600
for most people, especially if they
weren't you know, sort of thinking I

1332
01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:35.479
need to be skeptical. I need
to verify out a band that this is

1333
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:39.760
real. I can easily, and
you know, you'll find much more high

1334
01:44:39.800 --> 01:44:43.479
end examples like that video I think
we talked about before the MITAMATE a couple

1335
01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:46.039
of years ago to demonstrate this technology. It's several years old, and I

1336
01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:50.000
you know, I think the quality
is amazing. Supposedly, you know,

1337
01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:54.199
it's Nixon's giving the speech he was
going to give us the moon landing failed.

1338
01:44:54.239 --> 01:44:56.399
If people haven't seen that, they
should go look it up. And

1339
01:44:56.399 --> 01:45:00.520
that's technology several years old now,
it was done by mt You know,

1340
01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:03.760
those tools are increasingly available to just
regular folks like me and you out there

1341
01:45:03.800 --> 01:45:06.520
here. Well, two things about
this, Dave, as you and I

1342
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:13.600
have talked about in the past,
what we know about is frightening alarming.

1343
01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:18.640
But what we know about is only
just a small sintilla of a fraction of

1344
01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:25.560
what's actually available that hasn't been made
available to the public, and nobody's talking

1345
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:29.680
about yet all kinds of dark projects
that we know nothing about, that are

1346
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:35.319
miles ahead of the things that are
already present in the cyber world. See,

1347
01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:38.920
I think you could say with a
high degree of confidence that, you

1348
01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:42.800
know, the stuff that's been released
to the public is nowhere near the most

1349
01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:47.319
cutting edge stuff that's in some government
labs somewhere in China or Russia or you

1350
01:45:47.359 --> 01:45:50.640
know, even here in the United
States, whether it's a government lab or

1351
01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:55.760
Google lab or Apple or whomever.
You know. Again, we're seeing stuff

1352
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:59.119
once they think it's ready for the
public. Who knows what's really out there?

1353
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:02.319
And when you come when you look
at the current capabilities of this stuff,

1354
01:46:02.640 --> 01:46:09.359
it's pretty stunning in many cases,
again not perfect, but from a

1355
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:13.960
crime and fraud perspective, which you
know, it's the thing I'm currently concerned

1356
01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:18.199
about. I just think we're headed
to a very bad place where a lot

1357
01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:23.000
of people are going to have their
money stolen, whether it's them as an

1358
01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:27.960
individual or their business because of these
technologies and the fact that people don't understand

1359
01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:31.039
them, people don't realize the high
quality, you know, stuff they create,

1360
01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:35.239
and then also that bad people are
going to use them in very convincing

1361
01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:40.319
ways to defraud them. Unfortunately,
are you currently about Am I really talking

1362
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:43.680
to Dave Hatter? Because I could
do like a whole fifteen minute segment with

1363
01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:46.479
you and it wouldn't even be you
would just be your voice saying, well,

1364
01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:48.880
we should try that sometime, Gary, Jeff. If people will have

1365
01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:55.159
to come up offline with our our
running password, you know, like LEPrecon

1366
01:46:55.319 --> 01:46:58.319
or something. Yeah, they'll have
to ask me during the show to say

1367
01:46:58.319 --> 01:47:00.960
it. Then I'll say it.
You'll know it's me, Fuzzy bunnies or

1368
01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:04.319
sissies. All right. So these
are ten ways that your credit card can

1369
01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:06.880
get hacked. I don't know if
we've got time to go into depth about

1370
01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:11.640
all of them. Many things we've
talked about, but if you're looking at

1371
01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:17.199
protecting your finances with everything that people
are doing online now with credit card numbers

1372
01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:25.680
and data breaches is huge Statista US
as it in twenty nineteen, there or

1373
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:30.800
fourteen hundred and seventy three data breaching
cases in the US alone, exposing about

1374
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:38.000
one hundred and sixty five personal records. And the most effective way to combat

1375
01:47:38.079 --> 01:47:44.000
the chances of data breaching is to
one well, first off, but the

1376
01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:47.319
most difficult one is don't put your
data out there right, keeping keepers digital

1377
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:51.159
footprint as small as possible. But
that's, you know, getting increasingly difficult

1378
01:47:51.159 --> 01:47:57.680
and unrealistic as our world transforms to
it all digital space. You know a

1379
01:47:57.680 --> 01:47:59.960
lot of it, Gary, Jeff
is the things we talk about all the

1380
01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:02.680
time. Be skeptical, don't trust
anything, verify it, you know,

1381
01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:08.119
through some out of band mechanism.
Don't click links until you've verified what you

1382
01:48:08.239 --> 01:48:11.960
got is real by perhaps even calling
the organization that's in it. Yep.

1383
01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:15.079
You know, understand the deep paid
capability and the fact that anything you get

1384
01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:18.720
could be spoofed and could seem extremely
realistic even though it's not. So you've

1385
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:23.319
got to verify out of band.
It's then it's all the traditional stuff.

1386
01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:26.399
You know. You're a strong,
unique password for every account, ideally with

1387
01:48:26.439 --> 01:48:30.800
a password manager, turn on multi
factor authentication on all your accounts, so

1388
01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:33.479
it's harder for the bad guys to
get into these things. What about it?

1389
01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:38.800
What about a virtual credit card?
Dave? Well, the virtual credit

1390
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:40.760
card is a good way to do. I mean, it can be kind

1391
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:44.079
of inconvenient, but with a virtual
credit card, basically every time you want

1392
01:48:44.079 --> 01:48:47.520
to do a transaction, you get
a virtual number that's used on a temporary

1393
01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:51.880
basis. It's used for that one
transaction, you know, and then it

1394
01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:59.039
goes away. So it's vastly reduces
the likelihood that criminals can get ahold of

1395
01:48:59.039 --> 01:49:01.760
your credit card. You know.
Another thing along those same lines is if

1396
01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:04.960
you're buying things online, use a
credit card, don't use a debit card

1397
01:49:05.119 --> 01:49:10.000
because you know you have a certain
amount of fraud protection built into that and

1398
01:49:10.199 --> 01:49:14.359
limits your risk obviously, though you
know, don't pay for don't buy things,

1399
01:49:14.439 --> 01:49:18.319
can't pay for it with a credit
card, you know, freeze your

1400
01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:23.039
credit, set up credit alerts,
monitor accounts on a regular basis. Those

1401
01:49:23.079 --> 01:49:27.640
are all things that will definitely help
reduce the impact of any fraud activity.

1402
01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:31.039
Skimming is a big deal too,
And that's like in a gas station.

1403
01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:35.560
You know, you swipe, insert
your card whatever, credit or debit card,

1404
01:49:36.239 --> 01:49:42.359
and people have attached a skimmer to
it. And can you really tell?

1405
01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:45.840
Should you be extra vigilant when you
go to pay for something out in

1406
01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:49.920
the real world with your debit card
or credit card? How can you tell

1407
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:54.119
if there's a skimmer attached to the
device? I got about a minute,

1408
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:57.479
Well, Gary, Jeff, yes, you should be extra vigilant. You

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can find lots of examples in local
media of police warning about this. So

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this is a this is a real
thing. You know. A couple pieces

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of advice use the It's like at
a gas station. I always try to

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use the ones that are closest to
where the people are, like closest to

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where the clerks are, because it
would be you know, you would take

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more guts and be more difficult to
plant some of them. The problem is

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these things keep getting smaller and smaller, and they're usually kind of set down

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inside the credit card reader, so
you know, you can fiddle with the

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credit card reader. You can look
around, see if it's loose, see

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if anything moves around inside it.
Those would be indications that something might be

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wrong with it and you might not
want to use it. But yeah,

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unfortunately, they're getting more and more
difficult to discover because they're getting smaller and

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smaller. But it's a real thing
and people should be aware of that and

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be alerted to anything that looks unusual
about the credit card apparatus before you put

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your card in it. Joining us
on this lone nightcap for may Dave Hatter

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from intrust it to you. Thank
you so much, my friend, always

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my pleasure, Jared Jeff, thanks
you got it the nightcap and we wrap

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it up next done seven hundred WLW, American, July twentieth, nineteen sixty

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nine. American astronauts Neil Armstrong and
buzz Aldren became the first men on the

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movie. They planted the flag,
collected rocks, and giggled as they made

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snow angels in the lunar dust.
American, and you'll hear another great American

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01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:30.920
moment when you listen to Bill Cunningham, I Am a Great American tomorrow at

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twelve New on seven hundred WLW Live
Life to the fullos. Do you hear

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that all the time? Right?
But it's easier said than done. F

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FMW two thirty three b G,
Cincinnati. Hey, thanks to all of

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our fabulous guest Art Volo and all
of the radio