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He's actually the Scott's Loan Show.
I am not Scott'sloan Show, but if

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you're tuning in for that, I
apologize and well, better luck next year.

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Literally, Gary Jeff Walker in for
Sloaney today with a kind of a

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daytime version of what I do at
night. Here with some of the same

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Gary Jeff Posse. Guests have been
rounded up and are ready to go.

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If you love Sloaney, well,
I'm sorry this ain't that, but hopefully

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we'll have some fun and we'll talk
about things that are important. It has

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been all together a wonderful so far
wonderful holiday time, Christmas and looking ahead

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to new year for me and my
family, and I hope your fate has

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been the same. I will tell
you that our first guest today spent five

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weeks, five weeks overseas. He
did get to come home for Christmas,

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so good for him. He is
with the Center for Immigration Studies. He

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is a well known, renowned author
of a couple of books, first America's

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Covert Border War, which seemingly we
have lost at this point, and the

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latest book is Overrun. As I
mentioned, he works for the Center for

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Immigration Studies and for the last five
weeks. He has been in fire flowing

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places like Budapest studying how the immigration
crisis, and there has been a crisis

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in Europe for quite a long time, how that is evolving. He is

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a first hand look. He was
one of the first people that I talked

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to and one of the first people
who was reporting on the certain death spiral

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crisis on our southern border. Talking
to the people who are coming in from

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not just the Triangle countries, not
just Mexico, but from all over the

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world Communist China, India, terrorist
countries, and they are still flowing freely

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to talk about his experiences in Europe
and what's going on, and looks like

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Europe is thinking about actually solidifying their
borders again because the experiment has not worked

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well of being a sanctuary country or
being a sanctuary city. And we're finding

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that to be the case in American
cities that were so open to armed just

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oh a year or two ago,
now their arms are getting full. Please

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welcome to the show, Todd Bensman
from the Center for Immigration Studies. Todd,

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Good morning, and happy New Year. Almost yeah, thank you for

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having me. Happy New Year,
and Merry Christmas, and good tidings.

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Appreciate you having me. Yeah,
so, first and foremost, the latest

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book is overrun from your own eyewitness
accounts and news reporting from our southern border.

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And you took a sabbatical. You
were tasked with the not a sabbatical,

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but you were tasked with the charge
of being in in Europe and studying

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what's going on there with immigration.
So give us just kind of a an

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overall view of what's happening on the
other side of the pond where it comes

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to sure immigration. What did you
see and what's going on there? Sure?

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Well, there are a lot of
striking parallels between what's happening to Europe

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right now and the US southern border. So that's one of the reasons I

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went to see how the Europeans are
handling this and what they're going to do

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about it. There is a major, major surge in illegal immigration into the

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European Union. That's the twenty seven
countries that are all kind of banded together

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in this kind of collaborative and it
has external borders, you know, five

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thousand you know, miles of sea
and land, very tough to patrol.

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And in twenty fifteen they had a
matt major like you know, three million

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people just poured in from Afghanistan,
and they kind of thought that they had

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it under control in more recent years, but in twenty twenty three they saw

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tripling in the total numbers encountered going
over their borders, the most since twenty

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fifteen, twenty sixteen, three hundred
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up from you know, one hundred
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couple of years before. So they've
got a problem. And one of the

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major routes that was largely shut down
by fencing, called the Balkan Route,

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coming up from Turkey, Greece,
through Macedonia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Croatia

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and on up through Slovenia and into
the EU, is on fire again.

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And that's where I went. That's
where I went. I went to eight

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different countries all along they're interviewing people
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I guess some of the main takeaways
that I would offer is that the Europeans

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are especially the voting publics in all
of these countries, do not want this

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again. They went through it already
once twenty fifteen. Memories are still pretty

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fresh from that, and they are
moving sharply to the right to embrace right

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wing and conservative parties in all of
these different countries which are forcing their liberals

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that are actually a government to take
pretty tough action, or to consider tough

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action that would include, you know, deportation and detention and sort of universal

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toughness along all of their external borders
policies that you know, we obviously here

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in the United States might consider or
reflect on, or pay attention to at

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the very least. Well, Todd, here's the thing. What happened in

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Europe in twenty fifteen that you referenced
and is happening again or trying to foment

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again, should have been an indication
that this was not where America should be

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going, and this is not a
pattern that we should be following. And

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yet we did not learn from that
lesson. Apparently that there are parts of

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France that no longer have a French
culture whatsoever because of the influx of mostly

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Muslim immigrants into that country, whether
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There has to be some kind of
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do not have a sovereign state.
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in this country too. If you
look at the polling about what people think

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about, particularly the Biden administration's border
policy, which has been basically no border

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policy whatsoever, and the continuance of
catch and release, and you know,

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bussing to all parts of our country
scattered out, not just from sanctuary cities,

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but little towns all over, and
it is definitely changing the shape and

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culture of these places, and not
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adding in my opinion, and a
lot of people are holding that opinion.

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But you mentioned that there's been a
massive swing to the right in Europe.

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I think it's starting to happen here. Just your thoughts, right, I

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would agree. I think, you
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a harbinger of what ought to be
happening here, or maybe very well be

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happening here in the United States.
You know, Geart Wilders, a Dutch

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politician who led the Party for Freedom
just you know, want to resounding victory,

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is probably going to be you know, leading that country, the Netherlands.

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Uh. And he's a staunchly,
staunchly uh you know, anti illegal

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immigration, especially from Muslim countries.
Uh. This guy was elected a leader

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and just a month or two ago, UH and many of the other In

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Germany, the you know, the
the kind of right leaning UH party UH

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is leading in all the polls,
and there are elections coming up in the

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summer over there. UH. So
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They've just had it. They don't
want this, and they're demanding UH,

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you know, stricter, tougher,
deterring detention and deportation policies, which right

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now don't exist in the EU.
UH. The eu IS has taken most

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of the countries there are run by
liberal governments, or many of the countries

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there run by liberal governments that do
what we do here in the United States,

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which is we let them in and
let them stay and never deport anyone.

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They've got like a million person backlog
of deportees over there that they won't

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they won't execute. I interviewed immigrants
over there who said I'm coming in because

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i know I'll never be deported.
I had an Algerian tell me that in

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English on the record, and I
put his video up, and I had

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others tell me the same thing.
It's it's just this same policy that is

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responsible for what's happening at our own
southern border. I saw an interview with

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an immigrant at our southern border last
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demands to be let into the country
and be allowed to stay. It was

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demanding that President Biden did the These
people are all looking at Joe Biden and

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no wonder since he offered the invitation
right from the beginning his campaigning, he

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offered the invitation, and he's he's
left. He's lived up to that promise

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of letting everyone in and not deporting
people. I mean, it's just insane.

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And the fact that they're actually talking
about ramping up to portion deportations in

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this country right now is strictly because
it's an election year and the American people

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don't want this. Right the ship, I think we're seeing the ship start

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to turn in the United States Politically. It didn't in twenty twenty two in

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the midterms, no, but here
we are a year plus later, and

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cities like Chicago, New York,
Denver, Boston, Washington, DC are

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absolutely reeling with controversy and rebellion by
Democratic constituencies like the black communities and Latino

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communities that always vote blue are now
demanding that the Biden administration reversed this because

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their communities are being wounded, grievously
wounded and hurt by the money being diverted

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from their communities to these foreign nationals
that are mostly here illegally. Many of

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the people who are many of the
people who are coming to this decision are

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legal immigrants to this country who've come
from all over the world. But they've

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jumped through the hoops. They've waited
there sometimes ten fifteen years to become legal

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residents, and they are most they
take the most umbrage I think at a

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lot of this illegal immigration, this
line jumping that has been going on full

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throttle ever since the Biden administration took
office. You know, you can talk

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about the numbers, the three hundred
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in one country, the twelve thousand, the record number, like the twelve

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thousand people a day coming into our
country just in this last wave. It's

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nuts if you can actually equate that
to the size of the population of a

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city. You know, three hundred
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population of the city is Cincinnati,
it's insided city limits. It's more than

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the city of Cincinnati has come in. When you say three hundred and fifty

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thousand, if you're talking about twelve
thousand people a day coming in Todd that

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is the small town where I live, Southgate, Kentucky, by twice.

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I mean, it's massive. Just
to say the numbers is one thing,

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but to understand in context of America's
population, it's absolutely their enormous numbers and

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they should scare everyone to death.
Well, yeah, numbers are unbelievable.

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They're they're they're the biggest numbers of
border crossers. I think in the history

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of the world. I'm not aware
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during wartime World War One, World
War Two. I mean, just since

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Monday, we had forty five thousand
cross the southern border that fills Yankee Stadium

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man three and a half days.
Forty five thousand people. And that's not

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including the gataways. The people we
don't know about, including those, are

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just the ones that turn themselves in
to because they know they're being processed in

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within twenty four hours, they're in
the country. And the cities that are

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Democrat cities with Democrat constituencies that always
vote Democrat, are absolutely furious. Go

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look, go google the Chicago Assembly
chambers and see what's been going on every

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week, week after week, month
after month of rebellion, open rebellion.

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We're voting Republican. We can't believe
we've been voting Democrats for you people all

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this time. That sort of thing. And I think that it's very similar

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to what's going on in Europe,
and the Europeans are now implementing policies that

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may, if they just enforce them, actually turn the tide. This is

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the thing, Todd. We have
all kinds and we don't need new immigration

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legislation in this country. We've got
laws on the books. They're just not

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being they're not being allowed to enforce
the laws that already exist. And you

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cannot you cannot have a country without
borders, and you cannot have a country,

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a sovereign country without the rule of
law. They've been ignoring the rule

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of law, and they being the
Biden administration or anybody else who's not allowing

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border patrol to do their job and
deport people who come into this country illegal,

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which should happen automatically every time they
catch them at the border until they

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can prove they have a legitimate asylum
request and because you want a better job

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is not a legitimate asylum request.
That's right, that's right. Yeah,

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I mean that's really always the key. When you detain and then detained for

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lengthy periods of time, which which
is the law, and then deport which

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is the law, they stop coming. Nobody wants to lay down ten thousand

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dollars in smuggling fees and sell everything
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they're not going to make it.
It's just that simple, and the Europeans

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have figured that out. It's the
same there as it is here. This

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whole thing could be shut down at
these levels, could be shut down inside

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of about forty eight hours. Yes, with I mean, this is not

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a tough calculus at all. It's
not even as hard as a route cube.

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It's not difficult at all. Just
follow the law and do what the

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law says. And then they talk
about the inhumane treatment of the immigrants.

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They are facilitating more inhumane treatment by
allowing this NonStop flood to come in with

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none of nowhere to go for these
people. Well, remember that when you

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hear the words inhumane and cruel,
their definitions. The people who are defining

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that define it as detention and deportation. The exercise of the law is what

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they think is inhumane and cruel.
So therefore dispense with those inhumane and cruel

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things and let them all in.
So sixty so sixty people being being killed

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in a tractor trailer because they have
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That's humane and cruel. That's not
cruel, that's not inhumane. It's unbelievable.

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People drowning coming across the Rio Grande. That's not inhumane and crew all

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because of failed policy and not following
the law. Todd Bensman, cis dot

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org is the way to contact your
organization, and I wish you continued success

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and keep reporting the truth, my
friend. Thank you. Yeah, I'll

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be back on our own border here
all of twenty twenty four, so all

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right, eye out. I will
look forward to your reports, Sir Todd

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Holding Company, Janis and the lead
woman, possibly a little swap of the

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music from that similar year in America's
history. A man who has written a

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book about that year and its effect
on us even to this day, especially

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baby boomers, not just across the
country, but here in the Try State.

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Rick Robinson joins us on this Thursday
morning. Rick Robinson, author of

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nineteen sixty eight. He's an attorney
and he is our guest. Rick.

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How are you doing, Gary Chef? I am doing great. Man.

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You know what, You listen to
a song like that and you come to

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understand that nineteen sixty eight came with
its own soundtrack, Yeah, I did

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Yeah, I did it Yeah.
And by the way, today, on

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December twenty eighth and nineteen sixty eight, two big events happened du tell.

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First off, the first East Coast
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Festival December twenty eighth, nineteen sixty
eight, featured Joni Mitchell, Leetwood,

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Max, John Kay and Stephen Wolf
and The Grateful Death and the the other

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thing that happened was the white album
Hit Number one. How about that though?

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The double album here today, the
double album The Beatles, which was

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basically like four solo albums put together
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recording whatever they wanted to record.
They occasionally were in the studio together for

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that. Uh that. That's an
incredible collection of music and probably the most

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disparate and wild hodgepodge of Beatles that
were on any album that they put out

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in their tenure together. And you
talk about the Miami Music Festival with said

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you got Joni Mitchell and you've got
John k and Steppenwolf on the same stage.

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It was Crazy and Mac and the
Dead Yeah, and that was the

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Fleetwood Mac long before Stevie and Lindsay
that was the Fleetwood Mac of the Peter

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Green and the original Fleetwood right those. Yeah. So I mean, do

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you write about the music scene in
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You can't not write about the music
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each chapter, what I've done in
this book, Gry Jeff, is I've

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listed what was tracking as number one
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charts, and on the R and
B charts. See, you know,

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as much as a lot of folks
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Jim Scott on WSAI, I spent
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on WCIM. Yeah, I love
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big R and B fan. So
each month starts out with a listing of

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everything that was number one in that
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go into is that, you know, we had some remarkable bands here in

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Greater Cincinnati Northern Kentucky. So I
focused on the New Line, which Judge

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Mickey Folger was drummer for over in
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of which my friend John de Moscow
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on the Denims who were in the
who has you know, Cincinnati's answered to

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the Beatles and the you know,
the drummer for the for the Denims was

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the was a kid named Steve Blow
who later became known as Adrian Blue is

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now one of the most influential guitarists
in the history of rock from right here

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in the Cincinnati area. And I
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man for a guy who would be
known as a family court judge. He

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was known as a rock star around
or you know his his involvement with wheels

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later on and you mentioned the new
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still out playing today. Were you
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Are are they all still around or
who's gone? And oh yeah, we

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was able to contact all. Had
had a nice discussion with with Mickey,

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had a great discussion with John to
Moscow and uh, you know talking about

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the Dingoes. Was able to and
this was this is fun, I mean

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one of the things that they had. I've had the joy and the pleasure

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Gary Jeff of being able to interview
some of my heroes over the year years.

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And you know in columns that I've
written and one of the people that

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I was able to get in touch
with years ago. On the fiftieth anniversary

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of the Eve of Destruction, I
had what should have been a five minute

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phone interview with Uh, the guy
who wrote that song, Uh, and

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it ended up turning into like an
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Yeah, you know, we just
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just sat on the phone to talk. And so I sent him a copy

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of advanced reader of the of the
book Barry's eighty nine. Now it doesn't

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get out in public life very much, but sent me a note yesterday and

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told me what a wonderful message the
book was. Oh, that's great.

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It's just a nice thing to get
back. Sure, let's Barry. Barry

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was part of this national movement,
like with Tommy smothers who passed away this

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week, that believed they could change
the world with music. Barry told me

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one time that you know, when
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they thought, here we are,
we're doing it, We're on our

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way. And the next week he
was knocked off the charts by hang On

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Sloopy. So, you know,
hang On Sloopy, It's okay, We're

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talking about popular music here, but
there's so much more in this book.

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Nineteen sixty eight. The author's Rick
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now, and Rick, let's talk
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in nineteen sixty eight and how it
was changing in Cincinnati, and if it

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was changing, I mean it was
changing. The political landscape was changing everywhere

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in nineteen sixty eight because of all
the different things that were going on,

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the Vietnam War, the assassination of
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There was so much unrest. The
college campuses were kind of a flame,

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and I think that we see a
lot of that still today. In fact,

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there are a lot of mirrors and
parallels between nineteen sixty eight and what

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we've seen at least the last four
years politically, right, There really are

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parallels that you can draw, especially
locally, Gary, Jeff. I mean,

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one of the things that closed the
book with is in December, everybody

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starts doing their planning. There's all
these articles in the newspaper about, Oh,

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we're planning for this, we're planning
for that. One of the things

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they were planning for in nineteen sixty
eight was a new bridge across the across

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the Ohio River to improve the safety
on the Princeton Bridge. Took a while

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working on it, but that'll give
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happened to this is that a lot
of times you look at the issues and

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everything that old is new again.
You just see this repetition of issues.

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When when King and Kennedy are assassinated, you see the call for gun control.

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You see all the things that are
that happened that before are still going.

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I think the one thing that is
different in nineteen sixty eight is everything

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in nineteen sixty eight is about Vietnam. Everything, And that's really where I

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got the inspiration to write the book. Was that, as people would say,

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oh, the country's going to hell
on a handbasket, my response had

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always been, well, at eight
nineteen sixty eight, you know what I'll

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tell you. Rick decided to go
ahead. I decided to prove it to

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myself. I started writing newspapers from
sixty eight, and you go through month

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by month, chapter by chapter in
this book of what was occurring, not

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just nationally but certainly locally here in
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and I don't know. It seems
like there were times in twenty twenty,

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especially after the George Floyd situation in
BLM riot not peaceful protests, but

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riots, Antifa riots, and how
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to by the government. You know, I think twenty twenty gave sixty eight

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a run for its money. What
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I think the big difference, Garry
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out in the book is that there
became in nineteen sixty eight a phenomenon in

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neighborhoods that everybody knew what it was
about. I certainly remember experience in it.

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A couple of years later, when
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I can remember it a little bit
better. But that is the government car

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pulling up in front of the house. Yeah, you know, the green

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dodge pulls up with no white walls, and two soldiers get up and knock

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on the door. Nineteen sixty eight
was the bloodiest year of Vietnam. You

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had ted, you had the May
Offensive, you have all these things happening,

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and as you get to that,
you know, think about that phenomenon

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of somebody in you know, you're
from Southgate. Somebody in Southgate a car

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pulling up at a neighbor's house,
and everybody inside that house knows exactly what

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it means. Well, the neighbors
probably know too, you know well,

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and that's just it. The people
inside the house that start grieving the moment

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they see the car, and the
people on each side of them start breathing

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a sigh of relief of it's not
my kid today. And I think that's

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the one thing that really set sixty
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history, because of all the loss
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It all revolves everything in nineteen sixty
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the artist that Rudlow, Tom Gaither, and that was Tommy's reflection on the

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whole thing. Was everything in sixty
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was about Vietnam. All right,
give me a highlight from July of nineteen

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sixty eight, wowly of nineteen sixty
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I think that's the time when when
you look at it politically, everything

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starting to gel as you looked about
the Republicans and the Democrats, No one's

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quite sure who's going to be the
nominee of either party, and so you

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start having this influx of people that
are suddenly starting to focus on is it

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going to be Humphrey, Is it
going to be you know, is it

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going to be Nixon? Or is
somebody else going to challenge them? And

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the highlight of that month to me
as we go through these things is that

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you know who they were whose show
they were all trying to get on.

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No Bob Brunt, good old Bob. Bob had taken over for Ruth Lyons

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on the noon show. And you
have to remember at that time they were

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number one in a regional network that
covered from Indianapolis, you know south.

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They were in nine cities breaking number
one. And so everybody for Northern Kentuckians,

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especially Gary Jeff I always talking about, you know, we always help.

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During that time frame, we were
the stepchild of local news. Right.

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Sure, nobody wanted to report on
what was going on in Northern Kentucky,

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but there was one guy we could
all listen to in Northern Kentucky because

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we knew Bob was one of us, but not only was one of us

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Columbus Indianapolis, you know, has
all these networks that he's gone through.

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They're all watching the show, and
everybody that comes to town wants to be

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on the Bron show. Yeah.
It really is kind of a phenomenon that

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that, you know, you don't
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what's going on, you know that
that type of thing that's happening. But

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that was one of the things that
really kind of stood out in my mind

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was that everybody wanted to be on
on Bob's show. So we were still,

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as far as television goes in Cincinnati, we were still in the Bob

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Bron, still in the Ruth Lions
phase to a lesser extent, or Ruth

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was still a part of this.
She had she had retired, Okay,

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all right, So it was Bob
Bron who was kind of like the standard

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bearer for local TV and as you
mentioned, the regional networks that were going

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on, enter bear for local TV. But Gary Jeffs something happens in sixty

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eight that changes life for folks that
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X i X comes on to the
to the to the to the television with

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the ANA and the loop antenna and
the fuzzy picture and oh my god,

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look picture just that little bit so
that we can watch Larry Smith and his

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Puppets, the Cool Ghoul at night, Nick von Haney, all those shows

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come on, which had a great
influence on me growing up. I mean

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that was, you know, Friday
nights, you'd be watching the ghal uh,

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you know, and during the week
you'd be watching Snarfy our Dog and

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Larry Smith and his puppets. I
remember I was living somewhere else at the

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time, but at that time,
I do remember the first UHF independent station

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coming on the air, and it
was just a new world. You're right

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if you could get good reception,
but you had to you had to.

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You had to position that loop antenna
just a certain way sometimes to get a

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good signal. And that becomes one
of the big differences Gary Cheff between you

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know, if you talked about the
last four years in nineteen sixty eight,

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in nineteen sixty eight, there were
three sources of news NBCCBS, ABC,

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and they pretty much drove it down
the middle, driven a lot, if

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pg O'Rourke would always say, driven
a lot by advertisement, yep, Because

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if you wandered too far to the
right or too far to the left.

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A guy down the street who sold
couches in the furniture store would bust your

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chops for it. Well, you
know what I think. I think that's

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the Long comes. The Long comes
one of our news channel cable and the

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right goes one way, the left
goes the other way. News became entertainment

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by which you have an opinion going
into and you want to find a news

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channel that validates your opinion. It
was the explosion of social media. The

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explosion of social media. Absolutely,
social media pleads an interesting role, in

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particular with regards I think to civil
rights and things that are happening that the

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one of the surprises from this book
was talking to several prominent African Americans in

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northern Kentucky and talking about how there
may be less voices now, but the

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voices off sometimes are louder. Nineteen
sixty eight the book Rick Robinson, the

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author from the nineteen sixty eight White
Album or the Beatles. We close out,

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Rick, Thank you very much,
Thanks Jared, Jeff good luck with

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the book. Yeah, you can
pick it up a free order on Amazon

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and seemed to be in bookstore.
Fantastic, We'll look for it. Crank

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this upally we take it to the
top of the hour News at ten Love.

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I've been none on New Year's Day
or the day after, so why

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not some night taps in the middle
of the day at the end of the

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week, Gary Jeff Walker with you
again and for Scott Sloan on seven hundred

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WLW. Our next guest in this
half hour is a guy I've spoken to

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on numerous occasions, and of course
leading up to the vote on Issue one

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in Ohio, we had many conversations
because he's on the other side of how

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that turned out with the voters.
He is Reverend James hard He's the CEO

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of a group called Compass Care.
Compass Care has a network around the country

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ever expanding of pregnancy care centers for
people who are you know, having questions,

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having issues, they're in crisis,
and they help these people women,

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by the way, because men cannot
have babies, they help these women find

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solutions that don't include murdering their unborn
child inside the womb. And Reverend Harden

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also is very adamant about, you
know, when we talk about the transgender

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issues. By the way, in
Ohio, Governor Dwine deciding whether or not

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he will sign the bill that restricts
transgender boys or men playing in women's sports

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girls' sports in high school, and
also the gender affirming care that some people,

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which is to me just nuts.
If somebody has a mental issue,

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you don't help solve that issue by
assuring them that they're not crazy or they

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don't have some mental issues in thinking
that they're not supposed to be in the

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body that they're in, so they're
going to change everything. Well, we

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may get into that, but also
I wanted to talk about the anti life

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movements that are in otherwise pro life
states. And no matter how issue one

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turned out in Ohio, I believe
Ohio, at least by their elected officials

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and the Supreme Court and the leadership
that was elected by the public, like

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Governor DeWine knew that issue won went
too far and it guaranteed abortion right up

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to the time of birth in this
state, which is horrendous to even think

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about. So once again, Reverend
Jim Harden from Compass Care. He's the

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CEO and he is our guest.
Reverend Harden, how are you. It's

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great to be back with you.
Thanks for having me. Yeah, thanks

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for coming on today. So I
wanted to talk about particularly the anti life

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movement mostly from outside states since it's
been given back, since it's been given

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back to the states by the Dobbs
decision in the United States Supreme Court,

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and the huge anti life push in
states that are otherwise pro life, and

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there's an anti life push from outside
the state of the Commonwealth of Kentucky where

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I live, that of course,
has legislation on the books that does restrict

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abortions, and they seem like perfectly
acceptable restrictions. But then I'm not pregnant,

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So I mean, I wanted to
hear you talk about the concerted effort

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and the money that's going in from
the abortion industry into trying turn these states

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around. Yeah, well, you're
you're you're right. This is an anti

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life push. Abortion. You know, abortion represents the ending, specifically the

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ending of not just a pregnancy,
but a healthy, fully human life.

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It's it's these I mean, if
you want to be technical about it,

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it's the separation of of a mother, a healthy, a healthy mother from

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her healthy child in utero for the
purpose of destroying a child. That's what

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abortion is, and the abortion the
kind of anti life movement the abortion industry

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00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:49.840
wants to redefine abortion by conflating it
with miscarriage treatment. I'm not kidding you.

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They have chemical abortion. One of
the chemical abortion drugs in their chemical

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abortion regiments called mister Prostell, and
people like Senator Elizabeth Warren want to want

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them to change the label on this
misterprostle drug, which is specifically designed as

447
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an anti ulcer medication. They want
to change the label to be to read

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miscarriage treatment. You know, they
they they want they want to tell them.

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They've been telling the public that you
know, if if you know,

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these states restrict abortion, then women
are going to die in the operating table

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for you know, when they're going
through an emergency miscarriage because the doctors aren't

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going to are going to be barred
from from serving them. Totally untrue,

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totally lie. It's one of the
lies that was propagated in Ohio ahead of

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the Proposition one vote, remember or
yeah it was? It was. And

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by the way, where does the
money come from to promote these lies in

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the media, Because they spent fifty
eight million dollars doing it. The money

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did not most of the money,
the line's share of the money came from

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places like New York. Uh,
George Soros's uh, you know, fun

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00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:00.960
it's dark money. And this is
all basically document comes from Planned Parenthood,

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also based in New York, So
you're getting New York is the abortion capital

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of the world, obviously the abortion
capital of the United States. All the

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policy determinations come out of New York
State. They're more abortions in New York

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State per capital than any other state
and union. They're promoting abortion. They're

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they're building the chemical abortion infrastructure to
send dangerous chemical abortion drugs in the mail

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to pro life states, which is
illegal, by the way, according to

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the Comstock Act. But they don't
care. This is a concerted effort to

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bring big abortion, billion dollar abortion
business money into pro life states to buy

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for their industry in that state.
And they don't care what they have to

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do. If they're willing to kill
a child lying to the public, there's

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no big deal to them. And
that's what they're doing, or that's a

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00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.360
good point. If you're willing to
commit murder, who's been lying? Is

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nothing on the Liz No exactly.
And that's what and that's what they're doing.

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That's that's what they're that's how they're
getting the vote and there, and

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they're getting the vote by saying,
hey, if if these pro life uh

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you know politicians have their way,
then uh, women's health is at risk.

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Women are going to die. And
of course nobody wants women to die,

477
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.679
so they're gonna vote. They're going
to vote their way. And and

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the pro life states have to they
don't have dark money coming from outside their

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00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.760
states. They all they have is
themselves, all all the all the all

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the pro life people had in pro
life Ohio, by the way, was

481
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.679
their own money. They raised to
it ten million bucks of their own money

482
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to to fight this thing. It
was at least five to one outspend,

483
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if not more. Yeah yeah,
yeah right, so you know, they

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just couldn't compete with the money.
And uh and and and the and the

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lives got propagated. But nevertheless,
we've we've we've got to help people understand,

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uh that what's what they're what the
abortion industry is going for is legalized

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abortion on demand through all nine months
of pregnancy. And that's exactly what they're

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not communicating. They don't want people
to know what they want. They don't

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want people because it's very unpopular.
Most people from recent gallup Pole showed that

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most people in the United States want
almost all abortions restricted except in the cases

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of the mother's health and rape.
Okay, well, if you add up

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the you know, the you know, abortions because of a mother's health and

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abortions because of rape or incests,
right, you get less than one percent,

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less than one percent of the total
abortions in America. And that was

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a big that was a big selling
point for the pro issue one side,

496
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the anti live side, was that
it doesn't include exceptions for rape or incest,

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and it's such an infinitesimal percentage.
As you mentioned, they're selling all

498
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abortion on the anomaly. They're selling
abortions for all nine months of pregnancy just

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because of these of these anomalous situations. And you know, it's important for

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people to recognize that the majority of
Americans, including Democrats, want most abortions

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restricted. They want so the majority
of Americans want ninety nine percent of abortions

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out later that's the current situation in
America. And so's if that's the reality.

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And you've got a pro life state
a year ago which elected a very

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pro lefe governor in Ohio, you
know, shifting and making a constitutional amendment

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legalizing abortions for all nine months and
prenancy. It doesn't add up unless they

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were dukes. Yeah, and they
were, oh sure. And in the

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legalies and the way these bills are
written and the way they are promoted and

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paid for sponsored by, as you
mentioned, the abortion industry, and it

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is an abortion industry. It's not
about medical care. It's not about reproductive

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care. That's how they frame it
because they've gotten away from they have stepped

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away from the word abortion as much
as possible, haven't they They have.

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Yeah, they like to talk about
women's repructive healthcare, access to healthcare,

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you know, equality and healthcare,
women's rights, these kinds of things,

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when really it's about abortion. You
know. I was. I wrote a

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news Max art of a Newsmax column, and one of my columns, I

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was dealing with the Texas case of
this poor woman whose baby was diagnosed with

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try so eighteen. You remember this
weeks ago, and so they were all

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up in arms because this woman couldn't
get an abortion, and they were saying,

519
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:24.679
well, her health is going to
be at risk. Well, her

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00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:29.960
health wasn't at risk carrying a try
so many eighteen babies, a fetal anomaly,

521
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by the way, does not put
the pregnant mother's health at risk anymore

522
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than any other normal pregnancy would.
The baby's condition, the baby could could

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can make it all the way through
the pregnancy, and maybe the baby will

524
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likely die if in fact he or
she did have try some only eighteen,

525
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will likely die within the first few
weeks or months after birth. But that

526
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doesn't mean that we should kill the
baby. That doesn't mean the baby's life

527
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.599
is less less valuable or less worth
living. We don't know how much time

528
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.840
we have with any child. But
the fact of the matter is they were

529
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The abortion industry was using this poor
woman's situation as a means to promote abortion

530
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with respect to the life of the
mother. But how many children get diagnosed

531
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.519
to try some eighteen, and how
many mothers actually want to want to end

532
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.719
the life of their babies, you
know, that far into pregnancy. So

533
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.840
she left the state apparently to get
her abortion. We don't know exactly what

534
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happened, but I was encouraging her
not to because my wife and I had

535
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a child that was diagnosed to tries
from eighteen twenty years ago, and the

536
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.559
diagnosis, of course, well I
don't know if the diagnosis was false,

537
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.239
or whether God healed him or or
what. But he's now twenty years old,

538
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I'm about to get married, so
I mean, we don't know all

539
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.320
all that goes on, but the
medical community should has never considered an ethical

540
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:49.719
medical community has never considered abortion to
be medical care. It's always actually traditionally

541
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:54.440
considered abortion to be quackery because the
purpose of medicine is to heal and to

542
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:59.800
maintain the health of the patient.
And when a doctor sees a pregnant woman,

543
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:04.079
he treats two patients, the mother
and the baby. That's the way

544
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.639
it's always been and abortion. And
they're saying, well, you know,

545
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like for exemple, this Texas woman
down Dallas, well, you know,

546
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:14.400
she needs to have this abortion to
protect her future ability to have children.

547
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:19.239
Well, in reality, abortion actually
harms her future ability to have children,

548
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and it harms her future health,
not just reproductive health. It's been proven

549
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:28.480
the world over with medical journal articles, period you medical journal articles, and

550
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:35.719
that abortion increases a woman's risk of
breast cancer by forty four percent. It

551
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.280
increases the women's future And here's the
thing. Abortion increases a woman's future risk

552
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.239
of having pre term deliveries. By
fifty two percent. And there's a dose

553
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.239
effect means the more abortions you have, the higher your risk goes. So

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if she wants to, if she's
concerned about having another child and carry another

555
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.000
child, the term, she really
should not have an abortion. Yeah,

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I did not know that. That's
interesting information that people people also don't get

557
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.800
when they're having this discussion. Reverend
Harden, I wanted to ask you something

558
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I said at the top, Uh, and got a caller who's on the

559
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.920
line waiting, hop and mad hopefully
we'll be able to get him on.

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But I said something about gender dysphoria
being a mental illness. It is a

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documented mental illness, is it not. Psychiatric and psychological journals document gender dysphoria,

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in other words, thinking that you
should be in another body. This

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this is a diagnosed, a diagnosable
mental illness, Is it not? Yeah,

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it is. And the politics of
it, because it's become such a

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such a political issue in the psychiatric
industry, is you know, very secular

566
00:49:52.920 --> 00:50:00.440
and easily easily manipulated. They're looking
to change those definitions in their psychiatric uh

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you know, book of analyzes.
So I mean, we'll we'll we'll see

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what happens. But I think they're
going to be changing a lot of things.

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And they're saying, like, you
know, uh, pedophilia. I

570
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think they're going to say, well, you know, I don't know they

571
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call it now. They call it
something, you know, some kind of

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fancy name like uh, you know, youth attraction or something like that,

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uh uh minor attracted adults or something
something insane. But that is it's a

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it's a crime, and it's wrong, and it should always be a crime,

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and it should and people should be
convicted of it and sent to jail.

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And I and I, you know, there's this movement two, you

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know, to to to begin the
process of decriminalizing some of these you know,

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dysphoric types of conditions and behaviors that
harm other people. And and and

579
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there the first step in the process
of decriminalizing these these these people, uh

580
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.639
and these actions is by going to
the psych psychiatric community and saying, oh,

581
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it's it's it's no longer dysphoria,
it's no longer a mental uh aberration,

582
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.960
it's no longer a condition that we're
going to diagnose. It's perfectly fine.

583
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:08.960
That's that's the first step in decriminalizing
and in normalizing this kind of of

584
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:15.960
of you know, behavior, and
then we should be very very concerned about

585
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:20.760
about this because what it's going to
do is it's going to unleash further on

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00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:25.760
leash it's always been, it's already
been unleased, but further unleash chaos upon

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00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:31.159
our nation by by by destroying people's
ability to have healthy relationships, and by

588
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:39.440
allowing for the systemic abuse of children
by by these aggressive pedophiles, you know,

589
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in public schools and libraries and places
like that. So we're we're in

590
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a very difficult spot in America.
The hormone uh, the hormone blockers and

591
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.239
all of that that the gender affirming
surgery is so called, all of that

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00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:58.639
is child abuse, especially if you're
talking about a seven, eight, nine,

593
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.920
ten year old or or someone who
they've delayed puberty, you know,

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against against what naturally happens, they've
delayed puberty, and you've got a twelve

595
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:15.119
thirteen year old. Kids don't really
have any I mean, sure, there

596
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are obvious focuses that most children have, but lots of kids may act more

597
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:28.079
effeminate if they're actually boys, or
may act more tom boyish, as the

598
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expression with girls that happens naturally because
the kids are still discovering who they are,

599
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.079
and they really don't know who they
are until they get into adulthood at

600
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least. Don't doubt, without a
jubt oh, without a doubt. Look

601
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:50.320
this, you know, after World
War Two, there was a there's something

602
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:57.119
called Nuremberg Trials that were against the
Nazi doctors, because Nazi doctors were conscripted

603
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:04.480
by Nazi Germany to engage in essentially
human experimentation uh in uh of people in

604
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.960
the concentration class the camps. And
what they found was after these trials,

605
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.400
they said, look, we need
to have a code, a an ethical

606
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.039
code to make sure that these crimes
against humanity with human experimentation never happen again

607
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:20.039
were the world over, and so
they created the Nuremberg Code. Now,

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the Nuremberg Code basically has Provision three. Provision three basically says you, you

609
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:28.519
know, you've got to go through
animal subjects testing to make sure it's safe

610
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:34.679
and there's no no, no adverse
outcomes for human beings and whatever it is.

611
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.159
Well, abortion and hormone therapy in
particular violate the third provision of the

612
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:44.679
Nurmberg Code. Nobody's talking about that
this is a crime against humanity, This

613
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:50.440
is human experimentation that we are we
are intentionally attacking not just anybody, not

614
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:57.840
voluntarily. We're we're attacking miners,
miners and and and and engaging in hormone

615
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:02.159
experimentation on them. It is awful, it's learndous, and it's it's criminal.

616
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.480
It's political pedophilia, and it is
criminal. I agree with you,

617
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.159
Reverend James Harden from Compace Care.
Thank you so much for your time today.

618
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:15.119
I covered a lot of ground and
Adam's really upset, so we're going

619
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.840
to take a break for news and
try and calm him down. And he's

620
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.840
not upset with you, he's upset
with me. Seven hundred WLW. I've

621
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:44.039
been telling you about Ron's rooster on
Rapel once again partly because of the media

622
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:51.039
and the current social situation. The
police dream is a nightmare. How anybody

623
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.920
would I mean, volunteer to do
this as a job. I have absolutely

624
00:54:55.000 --> 00:55:00.519
no idea, especially in twenty twenty
three and all of the things that the

625
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.679
police are asked to do and the
things that they're not required or permitted to

626
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:10.119
do in the performance of their job, to talk about that. Cincinnati Fraternal

627
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:17.440
Order of Police President and our guest. I love this guy from Frontline Advisors

628
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.920
President as well, mister Dan Hills, Dan, how are you this morning?

629
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.800
Gary? Jeff, I got a
correct I am no longer the President

630
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.519
of Eternal Order Police. I've finished
out my term ten days ago. I

631
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:37.199
thought you were I thought you were
President for life. No, but you

632
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.920
nailed my other title on the president
Frontline Advisors. I work with some attorneys

633
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.599
and I'm kind of the pr arm. We've got one medium sized department already.

634
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:51.360
We're hoping to get more, and
it's for cases like this. I

635
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:58.119
unfortunately we don't represent this agency's officers
because you're talking about the Oxford. The

636
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:04.719
Oxford incident where the LASE officer was
caught on video punching a suspect on the

637
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:07.880
ground who had already been thrown out
of a bar. He was underage,

638
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:14.280
he was intoxicated, He had been
asked to leave. He not politely refused,

639
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:20.159
He refused, and then when he
got outside, the police show up

640
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:24.719
because they've been called this guy refuses
to leave our establishment. He is intoxicated,

641
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:30.599
he's underage, help us get him
out of here and enact the arrest.

642
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.760
And then we all saw the video. Of course, we didn't see

643
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:40.239
anything that led up to the suspect, not the victim, the suspect being

644
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.280
punched. You didn't see anything leading
up to that. And at first and

645
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:51.679
foremost, as you mentioned, where
is this officer's union counselor representatives to speak

646
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.480
for him since he's the one being
raked over Nicholes. That's the thing I

647
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:00.199
don't see. So even though this
is normally part of the service that would

648
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.800
be paid for, you know,
I can't help myself. I have to

649
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.760
speak out here, especially after the
hit piece by Channel twelve. I mean,

650
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:15.360
normally I had good working relationship with
the media, including the reporter here,

651
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:20.079
David Winter, but this story is
horrible. I mean, he starts

652
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:23.360
out and everybody, why do they
always have to start out and say the

653
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:28.400
officer who was this color? And
the suspect who was this color? What

654
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:35.039
is absolutely ridiculous. It is ridiculous. When when is society going to get

655
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.119
sick of the media hitting us against
each other? What is the point of

656
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:43.280
that? And then come on Oxford, you know, I know you have

657
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:47.639
a liberal college up there, but
just this mayor, you got Mayor Snavely,

658
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:53.079
who says his name says it all. Mayor Snavely. Mayor Bill Snavely,

659
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:58.039
when asked about this thoughts on the
video, he said, the officer,

660
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:00.880
we deserve to write to you the
opportunity defend himself. But but you

661
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.159
know that that's the biggest word in
English language. At this point, I'd

662
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.559
have to say it was something I
have never hoped to see an Oxford.

663
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:13.760
Come on, guys, it's a
college town full of bars. It's full

664
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:16.360
of bouncers in bars, and sometimes
the bouncers need a little help from the

665
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:21.159
policy. Why does it, Dan, Why does it make a difference if

666
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:25.480
the officer had been black, had
been at black skin, and the student

667
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:31.519
had had white skin. I bet
this happens a lot on in college towns

668
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:39.320
like Oxford, Ohio around the country. I bet there are drunken drunken disturbances

669
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:44.000
all the other times that are deal
dealt with, you know, eventually dealt

670
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:49.679
with by the police, and especially
if the suspect not the victim, the

671
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:55.440
suspect is being violent and violently objecting
or resisting arrest. This kind of stuff

672
00:58:55.519 --> 00:59:00.199
happens all the time. And if
this is a white dude, we won't

673
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:01.639
be hearing about it. That's what
I'm saying, this is a This is

674
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:07.239
a hit piece by Winner trying to
trying to get clicks on his story.

675
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:09.440
I hate that I have to click
on it just to cover the media.

676
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.559
Somebody's got to cover the media.
So there you need an alternative media to

677
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.000
cover the media. And this thing
is there and so so not only does

678
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:22.440
he get that quotes from Snavely,
which says, but he's ready determined that

679
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.039
it's terrible and it's racial and all
that other stuff. Then he's to go

680
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:30.639
and he's got to show the video
to civil rights Tyranny cham Sleen of Marshall,

681
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:36.679
Foreman and Shlean. And of course
he says the most city acting I

682
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:38.800
got ever heard. He said,
to continuum of force policy, a close

683
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:45.440
fess punch is extremely high just under
the use of lethal force. Are you

684
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:49.599
looking at dude? Come on,
we use close to this strikes routinely.

685
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:54.440
It's pain compliance and it's not deadly
forced or close to deadly force. You

686
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:58.639
know where where did where did he
dig this guy up? So if he's

687
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:02.599
going to dig up Sam Schlim of
Marshall, Foreman and Schlean, why why

688
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:07.079
doesn't he called Dan Hills the frontline
of advisors to say, wait a second,

689
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.719
the close fist punch, the closest
strike, let's use the terminology that

690
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.960
we have to use is very appropriate
in pain compliance. This guy has been

691
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:20.599
fighting, he's a football player,
he's a good sized fella. He's intoxicated.

692
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:25.079
These underage intoxicated from what the reports
are saying. And and at some

693
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:29.480
point we got to get him cuffed
or or really could get bad. So

694
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:35.360
using to close this strike, uh, in a case like that is something

695
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:38.920
that's trained in the police departments all
across the country. But look, David

696
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:44.679
Winner of Channel twelve wants to start
a racial stir so he can report on

697
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.239
it. And and and that's I
hate to see that in our media.

698
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:52.079
I don't think any other the the
other channels that they said the same thing

699
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:54.360
about the race of the police officer
and the race of those us back.

700
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:59.400
You know, they always set it
up that way. But Channel twelve is

701
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.880
the one that that won the step
further here bye bye by going out and

702
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:09.199
finding San Schlean of Marshall, Horman
and Schlean and getting his his ridiculous take

703
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:15.199
on this. What is a very
routine thing that happened, Yeah, it

704
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:19.639
was. It was very one I
saw the college kids I saw I saw

705
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.800
the report, and I agree with
it was very one sided and it was

706
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:29.679
racially slanted on purpose. I believe
as you as you stated here, Why

707
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:35.280
was there little said about the suspects
culpability in this and what the suspects?

708
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.159
You didn't never talk about the suspects
culpability? Do we we want to make

709
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:42.800
him into an innocent something to somebody
or another? Now I can. I

710
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.559
can give whatever council they have as
a hint, maybe you want to go

711
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:52.360
check the records in Cuyahoga County and
see see if there's anybody under the same

712
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:58.039
name of this this suspect and see
if he has any arrest or indictments or

713
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:00.880
whatever. It's all part of all
part of what I would like to see

714
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.440
happen more. And that's why you
know, doing what I'm doing with frontline

715
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.360
advisors and doing it with these attorneys
who aren't afraid to stand up for cops,

716
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:12.519
even when the meeting and especially especially
now, this is the time when

717
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:17.239
you need front line advisors because when
everybody is piling on and everybody's getting scared,

718
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:21.760
and everybody's hiding in their basement because
they made it into something racial,

719
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.480
something that more most likely, I'll
give it a ninety nine point nine percent

720
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:29.039
chance, has nothing to do with
race. Nothing. It has. It

721
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:31.199
has a lot to do. It
has a lot to do with the intake

722
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:37.599
the intoxication of a miner in a
even though a college student is a football

723
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.760
player, whatever, but he's still
under a minor, a really big miner.

724
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:47.079
Uh. The intoxication of said minor
in a public place and him not

725
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:52.480
being welcomed there by the establishment itself, and then you know, the whole

726
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:58.880
disturbing the peace and and all the
other crimes that this guy was committing before

727
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:06.280
the police there that this is not
talked about as germane to the topic ever

728
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:12.920
since we and nobody, nobody,
and you remember this in twenty twenty,

729
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:17.800
nobody talked about the fact that George
Floyd was a career criminal and drug abuser

730
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:22.039
who had been picked up, detained, and arrested by the police numerous times.

731
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:28.039
Nobody talked about and it was it
was buried on purpose, It was

732
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.960
buried on purpose, It was buried
on purpose, that he had four times

733
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:36.960
the amount of fentanyl that could cause
a lethal DEAs. And my suggestion is

734
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:40.159
George Floyd was about to die,
whether Derek Chauvin was on his neck or

735
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:45.599
not, because he had enough fentanyl
in his system to cease his ability to

736
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:49.119
breathe. Dad, But that was
never In fact, that was hidden from

737
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:52.159
the public while the riots are going
on and the BLM marches are going on

738
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:57.800
through the streets and people are setting
fire to buildings in police stations and taking

739
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:03.639
over courthouses, that the George Floyd's
culpability in his own death was never mentioned

740
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:06.480
once. It was all about race. Yeah, no, not at all.

741
01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:13.199
And you know, the whole situation
was was created by Floyd. As

742
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.159
you said. Now, I came
out and I didn't like what the techniques

743
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.119
that they used, even if it
was trained. There was a there was

744
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:24.119
a time far before that that I
would have liked to see Chauven, uh,

745
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:27.440
you know, do something different than
continue to stay in that position.

746
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.679
And I said that did that cause
Floyd's death? I'm going to probably lean

747
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.920
with you and probably not. I
think the corner said so, and they

748
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.599
ignored his report. Of course,
they weren't interested in that. No,

749
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:46.400
So so again it's it's the police
and you started your you started your segment

750
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.960
with it in twenty twenty three.
How do people do this job so knowing

751
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:57.079
that a routine thing like this could
all sudden be turned into some big racial

752
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:01.679
event. And then you know the
absolutely nimpiness of our elected officials. And

753
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:05.679
in this case, the Oxford mayor
who I don't even know why, wasted

754
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:09.639
his time on the sentence that we
want to do this fairly, because then

755
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:12.960
the butt means everything. The butt
means you know, well, this is

756
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:15.239
this is something I hope to never
see in Oxford? Are you kidding me

757
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:19.119
again that that's the one that makes
my my my, my octaves go way

758
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:23.320
up. Well, Holton, never
see this in Oxford. The whole place

759
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.719
is full of bars, it's full
of young people. Yeah, I bet

760
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.800
you. There is a fight almost
nightly when when the kids are in town.

761
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.559
Yeah, and you probably probably you
probably get worse than a punch in

762
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:38.119
the face. And some of these
fights too. Uh. And you agree,

763
01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:43.199
Dan Hills is a lifetime in law
enforcement. As former member and president

764
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:48.760
of the FOP and now with the
Frontline Advisors, you you obviously say that

765
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:53.599
the use of force should be reviewed
and investigated. I mean, anytime a

766
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:58.079
police officer has to use force,
whether it's deadly, force or force in

767
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:01.400
general. That yeah, that calls
for an investigation, but it's got to

768
01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:09.159
be a balanced investigation. It's got
to be done objectively, right objectively,

769
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.880
and we have to hear. We
have to hear the perceptions of the officer

770
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:17.239
and time, you know, the
other people that were trying to control where

771
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:20.679
they worn't out. It was one
of these things we wanted getting cuffs sooner

772
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:24.559
rather or later. What was his
target? It looks like he hit the

773
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:27.039
back of his head, but I
don't know. He might have hit the

774
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.000
top of his back or that's what
might have been what he's targeting. I

775
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:32.599
don't know. Nobody knows because nobody's
gone about this objectively. All we've done

776
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:38.280
is seeing a video and said the
race of the officer was X, and

777
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:42.599
the race of the suspect is X. Soo bang it must be it must

778
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.039
be racial. And then, like
you know, I don't know who to

779
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:51.400
be more bothered by the reporter in
this case, the mayor or what's his

780
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:57.239
name again? Slean of something something
and shleaning you know, these guys that

781
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:02.880
make a living just going out there
and pitying uh races against one another.

782
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:09.719
That's just Sam Sleen of Marshall,
Foreman and Shlean. He makes he makes

783
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:14.400
a living of trying to make people
feel as though they are oppressed. Look

784
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:15.719
to say, have nothing to do
with that young man's race, that had

785
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.559
to do with his behavior. Let's
let's let's do it. Let's do it.

786
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:21.480
Let's do a callback, just real
quickly, Dan, since we're on

787
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:27.639
the topic. Was Samuel Debos culpable
in his own death when he was shot

788
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:31.360
by that officer? Yes, very
much. He was stoned. He was

789
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:35.039
driving, he was you know,
he was asked to get out of the

790
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:40.079
car. He had a suspended license, he had out of out of date

791
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:44.639
plates on the automobile. He should
have been out of the car. They

792
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.360
could have taken care of things downtown. But instead Samuel de BOE's in his

793
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:54.400
inebriated or intoxicated state, whatever it
was that he was on, he decided

794
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:58.400
he was just going to drive away
from the officer and try and drag the

795
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:00.800
officer, and he wounded up.
He wound up dead. Now the family

796
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:05.440
got a nice payoff, But really, Samuel to Bose was was culpable in

797
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:10.639
his own death in another case,
and you give it all the way back

798
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:13.400
to two thousand and one. And
it's the same thing with Timothy Thomas,

799
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:16.720
yep, who ran from the police, repeatedly ran from the police. He

800
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:23.319
created the situation. And in that
case the officer was accused of accidentally discharging

801
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:26.640
a fire and back in two thousand
and one the Timothy Thomas cave Sam the

802
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:30.920
both he was charged as though he
had purposely done it. And quite frankly,

803
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:33.840
Gary jeffs, I think that's the
case where he accidentally fired. But

804
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:42.720
what created that accident was yes,
yeah, it was. That's right.

805
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.800
And so you know, let's we
start we started seeking the truth in this

806
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:51.479
country and not just going and hitting
emotions and doing it for clicks for your

807
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:58.399
for your media or whatever, or
doing it doing it to see who you

808
01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:02.239
can sue next, like Sam Schlein
of Marshall Foreman and Slean and and and

809
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:08.159
and again. Our elected officials they
have to start stepping up and doing what

810
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.640
is right. And in this case
here today, look, we'll go investigate

811
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:14.520
it. Other than that, leave
my town alone, because this is a

812
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:17.520
routine thing that happens quite often in
Oxford. The police have to come and

813
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:21.720
help out bar staff after fights.
We'll take a look and we'll decide whether

814
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:25.479
or not. The police officer was
proper and as usual, force or not,

815
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.520
You're not going to force me in
the same stupid stuff because you're the

816
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:32.159
media and you want to drag Race
into every flipping thing. I mean,

817
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.199
his answer, that's what a real
that's what a real leader, that's what

818
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:39.520
a real mayor is. The mayor
of Oxford should have said, you know

819
01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:43.560
what, there's a current investigation into
this. I'll get back with you after

820
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:45.920
we concluded. And that would have
been fun. That's but all the heaven,

821
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.039
all the hem and and han and
the you know, hand ringing over

822
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:54.279
it and the butts, it's not
time for that yet. Let's let's get

823
01:09:54.279 --> 01:10:00.239
the snavely. But at this point
we would say it was something that I

824
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:05.479
had hoped never to see. President
President of Frontline Advisors, Dan Hills,

825
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:09.279
thank you very much, Danny.
We'll talk to you soon. And with

826
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:13.279
that we move on to the eleven
o'clock hour News just ahead and much more

827
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:16.159
on the Scott Slane Show. I'm
Gary Jeff Walker and for Sloaney. Meanwhile,

828
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:20.479
sleeping a top of twenty mattresses is
a young woman. I'm a princess

829
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:25.760
and I'm in pain. What's wrong? Someone put a p under all these

830
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:30.239
mattresses and it's killing my back.
You can feel the p of course,

831
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:33.319
I'm a princess, stupid. Sorry, really, I just want to listen

832
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:38.239
to Eddie and Rocky. Eddie and
Rocky. Sure they're funny, but you're

833
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:44.479
a princess. Eddie and Rocky are
the kings of my afternoons. Eddie and

834
01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:48.479
Rocky give your day a fairy tale
ending. Eddie and rock This afternoon at

835
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:56.560
three on seven hundred WLW, iHeartRadio
show with Gerry Jeff hosting. On seven

836
01:10:56.640 --> 01:11:00.960
hundred WLW. Complaints should be launched
about Gary Jeff Walker, not Scott Sloane,

837
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:06.319
because the views expressed on this show, especially by the hosts me,

838
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:12.640
are not necessarily the views or the
thoughts of the staff, management or anyone

839
01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:16.840
else associated with Scott Sloane Show.
But my producer Liam agrees with everything I

840
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:21.319
say, so you can direct your
ire at him as well. In this

841
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:26.079
segment, we're going to talk to
an old friend who has his finger on

842
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:33.279
the pulse of everything. It the
Internet of Things world is dangerous and it's

843
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:39.119
ready to kill you at any moment. And here's a guy who just to

844
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:45.720
just to kind of solidify your fears
about that as Dave Hatter, how are

845
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:48.439
you from in trust it? Dave
Hatter? How are you doing? Have

846
01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:54.359
you got your aluminum foil hat on
yet? I took it off so that

847
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:58.800
it wouldn't block the signal for our
call today, Gary, Jeff, I'm

848
01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:00.560
excellent. I hope trust it was
a merry Christmas, and I hope you're

849
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:04.560
looking forward to a happy new year. It was, it was, and

850
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:08.840
yeah, I am hopefully you and
all your listeners are as well. All

851
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:11.880
right, so looking to the new
year. In Ohio, of course,

852
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:15.600
and we've been talking about it on
the news this morning, the new law

853
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:21.399
goes into effect that's supposed to protect
kids under sixteen online from certain social media

854
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:30.359
opportunities and have parental consent and parental
blocking of their devices if they're if they're

855
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:34.520
under age. With this new law
going into effect in Ohio, the Pew

856
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:43.720
Research Center finds that ninety three percent
of kids aged thirteen to seventeen are using

857
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:51.079
YouTube, sixty three percent are on
TikTok. Teens are online almost constantly.

858
01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:56.479
Dave, tell me about this story
and tell me if this new Ohio law

859
01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:00.479
is going to have any effect at
all of keeping teens safe from what looks

860
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:08.880
like an all consuming monster. Well, Garry, Jeff, I guess I

861
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:14.000
would start by asking you the question
since we've had the Children's Online Privacy Protection

862
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.279
Acts for a long time and it
says that children under thirteen can't use these

863
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:23.680
online services without pernal consent, and
you just gave those statistics from Pew basically

864
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:28.279
saying most teams are online all the
time, whether it's YouTube, TikTok,

865
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:30.720
Instagram, Snapchat, or something else. I mean, you tell me,

866
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.199
what do you think this is going
to do? Now, I will say,

867
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:36.800
you know, versus a national law, you know, this is an

868
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:43.399
Ohio law. You know, if
the Ohio Attorney General, if people complain

869
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:47.319
right file complaints and then they aggressively
perceive this, maybe it could put it

870
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.520
down in it. But you know, one of the things that changes in

871
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:56.159
my mind versus Kappa is it sets
the age to sixteen. So, according

872
01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:59.840
to what I'm reading here, beginning
of January fifteenth, operators must attained per

873
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.199
concern from four establishing accounts for children
under the age of sixteen. They must

874
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:10.079
also prevent parents with a list of
censoring or content moderation features. You know,

875
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:14.920
So first off, you know,
the sensoring and content moderation features.

876
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:16.399
And I just want to throw this
out there. You though it's not one

877
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:20.239
hundred percent on, topics are available
to parents in a lot of ways already.

878
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:25.720
Whether it's your your cell carrier,
Verizon, T Mobile, whomever,

879
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:29.520
they generally will have some kind of
pernal controls. You can turn on your

880
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:32.840
internet service provider, assuming it you're
not going through Verizon or some cell or

881
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:36.600
carrier for that team, spectrum charger
or whoever, typically has some sort of

882
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:41.520
parental controls. So and you know, there are all the way down to

883
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.960
software applications out there like Netmanning that
you can install on devices to have you

884
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.560
know, almost total control over what
your kids can do. So for parents

885
01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:51.359
who are concerned about this, and
I think they should be, don't don't

886
01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:55.439
maysus understand what I'm saying. Parents
should be concerned. As a parent,

887
01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:58.239
You know, I've been concerned about
this stuff for a long time and I

888
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:02.239
only have one teenager still, But
there are options out there to try to

889
01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:05.600
lock this down even without this new
law in Ohio. You know, I

890
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:10.840
think social media is definitely not doing
children any good. The longer you can

891
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:13.920
keep them off of it and away
from it the better. And along the

892
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:16.880
same line here, Jeff, here's
a similar related story from December first of

893
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:21.640
this year. Facebook whistleblower want to
help kids keep them off social media.

894
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:27.640
So, you know, there's plenty
of people who've left these social media companies

895
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:30.439
and seeing the harm that they've been
doing. There's all kinds of lawsuits out

896
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:35.920
there, but the problem is to
some extent just one of scale. Right,

897
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:41.399
you have billions of users on these
platforms, and you know, do

898
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:46.079
you think that barring aggressive enforcement of
these laws, since there is no national

899
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:51.079
law other than Kappa, which really
hasn't done much, it's going to keep

900
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:55.800
kids off of this. But you
know, my guest is no. You

901
01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.319
know, kids often figure out how
to get around this stuff, and it's

902
01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:01.399
pretty easy to claim you're any age
you want. I mean, that's another

903
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:05.199
ongoing problem with all this stuff is
you have access to adults out there who

904
01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:08.960
are pretending to be children and so
forth. So well, you know,

905
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:12.800
today, in today's world day,
you can claim that you're anything that you're

906
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:16.760
not just because you feel like you
are. Anyway, continue, I think

907
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.359
it's a step in the right direction. Gary, Jeff, I think more

908
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:24.680
states need to be moving in this
direction, you know. And if you

909
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:28.159
look at all the things that this
law purports to view again, especially if

910
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:33.000
the Ohio AG is going to aggressively
pursue legal action, you know, it

911
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:36.880
could probably make it again. It's
certainly a step in the right direction.

912
01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:43.279
I think, though the scale of
something like this to enforce is quite difficult.

913
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.119
And you know, if you think
about it from the perspective of the

914
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:51.199
social media site, let's just say
they have a vested interest in getting you

915
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:56.800
to use their fight as often as
possible, to get you to use their

916
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:00.039
fight exclusively, no matter how old
you are, no matter how old you

917
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.880
are. Okay, I got a
couple of minutes, A couple of minutes,

918
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:06.399
A couple of minutes, Dave Hatter, and just if you can do

919
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:12.399
this in two minutes. A marketing
team within Cox Media Group claims it has

920
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:16.640
the capability to listen to ambient conversations
of consumers through embedded microphones and smartphones,

921
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:20.760
smart TVs other devices, to gather
data and use it to target ads.

922
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:25.560
This is something you and I have
talked about. If you've got something in

923
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:32.760
your hand that has a microphone and
there are speakers involved. Then somebody is

924
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:38.960
always listening apparently, and they're bragging
about it. Yeah, I think this

925
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:43.000
is an interesting story. This just
hit the news recently. That particular article

926
01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:45.920
you're referring to came out December fourteenth, and I would encourage people to go

927
01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:49.600
steep in themselves. For anyone listening. I'll reshare this on Twitter. I'll

928
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:54.079
make this easy for you. Just
go to add Dave Hatter on Twitter x

929
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.920
whatever you want to call it,
and I'll reshare it so it'll be easy

930
01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:59.680
for people to find. You know, for years and years and years,

931
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.520
we've heard that these companies aren't listening
to you. But I want to point

932
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:06.920
out that if you're using a product
like Theory or Alexa, it by default

933
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:10.800
must listen to you in order to
do what you want it to do.

934
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.399
Right, It has to be waiting
for you to say, hey, Siri,

935
01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:15.479
you knows how many of as we
get activated, so you know,

936
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:19.279
the capability is certainly there. Now, these companies like Facebook and so forth

937
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:24.039
have always claimed they're not using that. Now you have someone admitting that this

938
01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:29.159
is a capability that they offer to
their customers, and you know this is

939
01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:31.319
you know, one of the crazy
things is we get more and more and

940
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:34.680
more of this technology have been in
our lives, whether it's your car,

941
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:39.840
your phone, your thermostat, your
doorbell, to your point, if it

942
01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:44.000
has a camera and or a microphone, it could be listening to you and

943
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.359
maybe listening to you in order to
provide whatever service you bought it for.

944
01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:51.840
One of the things that's great about
newer phones is barring some sort of malware

945
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:56.159
or something. You know, it
has an indicator that lights up to tell

946
01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:59.439
you when the microphone is hot or
the camera is hot. So I would

947
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:01.079
encourage peeople to keep in mind that, you know, if you see the

948
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:05.439
camera light light up or the microphone
light light up, maybe there's some sort

949
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:10.239
of activity taking place there and you
need to be cognizant that. But it

950
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:12.880
also goes to show you that,
you know, do they want to listen

951
01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:15.520
to you? Well, of course
they do, because there's valuable information in

952
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:19.720
the things you're talking about where they
could be selling you stuff. Spooky on

953
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:25.000
the least, Yeah, I agree, it's just spooky. Add Dave Hatter

954
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:29.520
on Twitter or x if you'd like
more, and uh, so much so

955
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:31.880
much great information from you all the
time, Dave, I appreciate the visit

956
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:36.520
today Always my pleasure Garret Jeff,
Happy New Year, Happy New Year.

957
01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:43.319
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fury like a woman's scorn, especially
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975
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joining us now second moment advocate the
guy behind a Good Gunbadguy dot Com and

976
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:34.279
our guests Dan was Danny, how
you doing, Hey, Gary, Jeff.

977
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:38.000
Great to be on your show.
Always good to talk to you.

978
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:41.399
Thanks for having me. It's great
to have you here. Great to have

979
01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:45.560
you here. So as we look
to the new year, there's a new

980
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:48.920
law in Illinois, there are new
gun laws in some states. Kind of

981
01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:54.159
update us and tell us what's going
on. The Supreme Court just decided not

982
01:21:54.359 --> 01:22:00.880
to hear the Illinois band on AR
fifteen's AK forty seven and the like.

983
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:02.880
Tell me what you know about that? First off, Well, this is

984
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:09.560
yeah, this is interesting stuff because
we're starting to have some successes and I

985
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:13.600
think a lot of judges are are
starting to get kind of fed up with

986
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:18.399
the nonsense that's coming from the states
in trying to violate, you know,

987
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:23.279
our Second Amendment rights. It's happening
all over the place. Illinois is happening

988
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:27.720
in New York. New York just
had a just got we just got a

989
01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:31.039
great defeat against the State of New
York. California, same thing, I

990
01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:35.640
give you a little bit just as
far as the New York one, and

991
01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:42.600
it's similar in all these states.
These things are happening the On December eighth,

992
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:46.560
the US Court of Appeals for the
Second Circuit affirmed a federal injunction against

993
01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:51.079
three significant portions of the New York's
c ci A New York c c c

994
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:56.800
i A, the Concealed Carry Improvement
Act, and it's it's very restrictive.

995
01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:02.359
But what happened here in New York
is they got defeated. Basically, three

996
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:08.079
components of that got defeated. The
requirement of applicants to disclose social media accounts

997
01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:15.720
for review prior to getting a concealed
carry license got shot down. The restrictions

998
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:19.079
on carrying a firearm on private property
that's accessible to the public that got shot

999
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:24.119
down, and the restriction on carrying
in houses of worship got shot down.

1000
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:29.359
And now with Illinois and see,
they all go after this so called assault

1001
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.640
weapons, and they always want the
assault weapon ban because it's the scary thing

1002
01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:36.720
they can put out in the media. They can say assault weapon, and

1003
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:41.880
people who don't know any better get
scared. Sally soccer mom, She runs

1004
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:45.720
to the voting booth. She does
everything she can to vote for the politician

1005
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:51.479
that promises her safety against these scary
assault weapons. They love that term.

1006
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:58.920
It means nothing, but they've created
it so they can scare people into supporting

1007
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.000
this type of legislation. But when
the courts end up seeing it, like

1008
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:06.079
in Illinois and other states, the
judges say, look, this really is

1009
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:11.000
based on nothing, and it's nonsense. It's all a lot of propaganda and

1010
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:17.239
rhetoric. And these so called assault
weapons are really averaged every day rifles that

1011
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:23.079
are in common use. And another
thing that came out of New York that

1012
01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:29.600
affects these is the Bruin case,
which recently said gun laws must meet historical

1013
01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:33.479
tradition. And now we're finding that
none of these gun laws meet historical tradition.

1014
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:38.319
Because back in the day when our
country was founded, there were no

1015
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.720
so called assault weapons me. There
were no magazine restrictions, there was even

1016
01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:45.439
there was no registrations, there was
no licenses, there was none of this

1017
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:48.119
stuff. So I think a lot
of these gun laws are going to start

1018
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:56.159
getting shot down, but the states
will appeal them for as long as they

1019
01:24:56.159 --> 01:25:00.119
can, so we'd be fighting these
things forever and they'll be just dragging their

1020
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:03.680
way through. Why did the US
Supreme Court decide not to hear the Illinois

1021
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:10.279
case. I'm not exactly sure why
they but it probably because it didn't meet

1022
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:15.399
Bruin the historical tradition. That's what
That's happening a lot. So that Bruin

1023
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:20.159
decision is affecting court cases all across
the country. It's pretty cool when you

1024
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:24.640
think about it, because we didn't
have this before. But just Justice Clarence

1025
01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:29.399
Thomas said, and he created this
precedence in that Bruined decision, in his

1026
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.760
statement that gun laws must meet historical
tradition. And now we're finding that courts

1027
01:25:34.840 --> 01:25:39.960
have to abide by that. It's
crazy, it's good. It is good.

1028
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:46.359
Is there anything else taking shape or
going into effect January first, that

1029
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:53.600
you guys think is reprehensible when it
comes to the Second Amendment. Well,

1030
01:25:53.680 --> 01:26:00.439
we're watching California. There's some stuff
going on in California with what they're calling

1031
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:05.359
sensitive sensitive places. Now I gotta
keep bringing it back to New York because

1032
01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:11.239
New York is the epitome of gun
control. And what they did in the

1033
01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:15.359
CCIA, the Concealed Carr Improvement Act
is they created a sensitive places where they

1034
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:18.920
could deem anything sensitive. So now
California is doing the same thing. But

1035
01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:23.600
that's in the court system right now
and it's being it just got it just

1036
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:30.479
got shot down by a circuit court
judge and we're waiting to see on appeal

1037
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:35.720
for that. So it's it's basically, you know, keep it's it's gonna

1038
01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:41.520
be constantly watching and back and forth
with these courts and the appellate courts,

1039
01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:45.760
and eventually some of these things will
make their way up to the Supreme Court

1040
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:49.079
and we'll get it defeated once and
for all. But keep your eyeing California

1041
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:56.279
for that sensitive places. Several states
first so called assault weapons, assault weapon

1042
01:26:56.840 --> 01:27:00.840
legislation, and like I said,
in New York, the restriction on carrying

1043
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:05.039
on private property that's accessible to the
public, Like I said, that got

1044
01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:09.840
shot down. But they're going to
peel that and they're going to keep fighting

1045
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:13.439
it. So it's always a gray
area because it leaves the states with the

1046
01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:18.319
upper hand When these laws are still
on the books but yet have been defeated

1047
01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:25.399
in court and are in the appeals
process, it's very, very gray area.

1048
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:30.039
So, in other words, to
defend your god given supposed to be

1049
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:34.920
constitutionally guaranteed rights to own and bear
firearms in this country according to the Bill

1050
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:40.159
of Rights, there's a constant legal
fight for you to have to be to

1051
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:45.840
enjoy that god given right. It's
a naz Yeah, no, it is,

1052
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:48.920
and it's infuriating. And the one
thing we got that we can really

1053
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:55.640
count on groups like Gun Owners of
America Second Amendment Foundation. You know,

1054
01:27:55.720 --> 01:28:01.199
there are national gun rights organizations who
are out there fighting, and it's important

1055
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:05.000
that we give him our money.
We give him our money and memberships because

1056
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:10.920
if it wasn't for them, these
states would run away with our with our

1057
01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:15.159
our rights. Yeah, real quickly, if people want to know more about

1058
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:17.560
you, where do they go and
how do they find you? Then go

1059
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:23.520
to good gun, bad guy dot
com. All my stuff that my books

1060
01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:27.119
are there, and then you can
see a lot of the stuff I'm working

1061
01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:30.119
on keep yourself up to date on
Second Amendment stuff Good Gun, Bad Guy

1062
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:34.520
dot com and you can also check
out my show at LOADEDMC dot com.

1063
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:39.880
It m I C like microphone LOADEDMC
dot com and Gary Jeff, It's always

1064
01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:42.920
great to be talking with you.
Thanks so much for the invite, every

1065
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:45.319
well to look forward to doing more
of it in the new year. Dan

1066
01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:50.119
was from Good Gunbadguy dot com this
morning. On the other side, something

1067
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:59.880
completely different, the Furball News Traffic
and weather news radio seven hundred w l

1068
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:06.800
JOB at Cincinnati some concerning stats about
a respiratory illness affecting children with the eleven

1069
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:12.840
eleven thirty report. I'm Ricky Huchino
breaking now a new study out of Sweden

1070
01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:18.800
showing children with RSV are eleven times
more likely to be hospitalized than other illnesses

1071
01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:24.199
like COVID nineteen in the flu.
The CDC urging parents to do what they

1072
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:28.399
can to cut down on the virus's
spread this winter. According to the CDC,

1073
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:32.239
as many as eighty thousand kids under
five are hospitalized with RSV every year,

1074
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:36.640
with one hundred to three hundred deaths
with those with RSV. Those with

1075
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:41.600
RSV, though usually contagious, for
about three to eight days, and maybe

1076
01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:45.680
contagious a day or two before they
even start showing symptoms, which is why

1077
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:49.680
the CDC says these numbers really drive
home the importance of immunizations for children and

1078
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:56.279
pregnant mothers. That is ABC's Morgan
Norwood, head of Christmas. The Oha

1079
01:29:56.279 --> 01:30:00.760
Department of Health provided an update on
the states three week average for respiratory illnesses,

1080
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:05.600
saying it was on the rise,
approaching fifteen thousand cases. Let's check

1081
01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:11.079
the latest traffic and weather together from
the UCUT Traffic Center at uc HELP.

1082
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:15.159
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You see Hew dot Com. Supbound
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1084
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:23.760
minutes from above the Western Hills Viaduct
to the Brand Spence Bridge. I'm also

1085
01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:28.600
seeing some slow traffic westbound seventy four
from the state line to the construction near

1086
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:32.960
the Brookville Ramp. Chuck Ingram News
Radio seven hundred WLW. Now the latest

1087
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:39.520
forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling
Weather Center on news Radio seven hundred wls

1088
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:42.880
W. Well, a cold one
out there today is Tempters only top out

1089
01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:45.840
around forty in the afternoon with cloudy
skies, wintry mixed chances move back in

1090
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:49.840
this evening, especially over night as
tempters drop below freezing. You're topping out

1091
01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:54.239
at thirty nine for your Friday from
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1092
01:30:54.239 --> 01:31:00.560
warning Meteorologist Cameron Harden on news radio
seven hundred WLW forty one degrees right now.

1093
01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:03.600
In Ohio. Man heading to federal
prison for over three years after pleading

1094
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:09.720
guilty to prostitution charges out of Kentucky. Federal prosecutor say forty one year old

1095
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:15.000
Leon Simms took advantage of a homeless
woman's vulnerability, charming her with gifts and

1096
01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:18.000
romance, and then sold her countless
times, dating back to twenty twenty,

1097
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:24.399
across multiple states, including Kentucky and
Ohio, in as far away as California.

1098
01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:29.760
Prosecutors say she was not his only
victim. Police and Florence investigating a

1099
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:32.720
deadly accident that happened overnight on Houston
Road. A sixty five year old man

1100
01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:38.319
from Michigan struck by a car so
he was crossing the street near Merchants Street.

1101
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:41.960
Carl Iike's pronounced dead at the scene. The driver of the car did

1102
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.960
stop after the accident and is cooperating
with the investigation. No word yet meantime

1103
01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:48.720
on the condition of a person who
was struck by a car this morning in

1104
01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:53.199
Lochland. That accident was a hit
and run, the driver taking off from

1105
01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:56.720
the scene around seven thirty after they
hit someone on North Wayne Avenue. If

1106
01:31:56.800 --> 01:32:00.520
you can help in the investigation,
call Crimestoppers at three five two thirty forty.

1107
01:32:00.880 --> 01:32:04.319
Meantime, the State Highway Patrol in
Ohio out with its report for the

1108
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:10.960
Christmas holiday. Fewer people kill then
Ohio roadways this Christmas compared to the same

1109
01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:15.079
period over the past five years.
A total of nine people killed over the

1110
01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:20.279
four day Christmas reporting period. The
Ohio State Highway Patrol says of those nine

1111
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:26.479
people who died, around half of
them were not wearing seatbelts. I'm Matt

1112
01:32:26.520 --> 01:32:30.520
Reese News Radio seven HUNDREDUBLELW positive Day
on Wall Street. So far the doaw

1113
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:35.079
of fifty four points Nasdaq's Game twenty
three and the SMPS picked up about six.

1114
01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:39.159
Our next update at noon, I'm
Rick Yu Chino News Radio, seven

1115
01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:48.800
hundred WLUB from the creator I was
Gon in the Wagon. I'm a traveling

1116
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:53.920
show. My mama used to dance
for the money. Then Tama, what

1117
01:32:54.600 --> 01:33:01.439
what am I preach? A little
gospel? So a couple of doctor good

1118
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:05.600
And you may ask yourself, and
that'd be a valid question. Why is

1119
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:13.319
he playing Share? Cliff? It
just so happens that Share is one of

1120
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:17.920
the favorite artists of our next guest. He confessed this once to me and

1121
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:23.680
a drunken stupor over a nice cigar. He said, you know that there's

1122
01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:30.560
nothing better than Share, especially especially
right around lunchtime. Joining us now in

1123
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:34.640
the pre eminent sports radio voices in
the history of Cincinnati radio. A man

1124
01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:38.960
that I am proud to call my
friend, and I too, am a

1125
01:33:41.640 --> 01:33:45.640
shaa hollick. We share and share
a like. Andy Furman joins us now,

1126
01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:49.239
fresh off He's Dentist's trip. Andy, how are you? I got

1127
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:54.600
you, babe, I got you, babe. Hey, Hey, listen,

1128
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:57.560
I need a favor from you.
Yeah. I appreciate the time.

1129
01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.960
And I hear Mike McConnell every Yet
going through this boring Christmas story that he

1130
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:03.239
has, you know, it's like
feeling sorry for him. Subjects not in

1131
01:34:03.279 --> 01:34:06.399
a basement on Christmas, even though
friends, I got a Christmas story.

1132
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:10.079
If you permit me, I would
like to share it right now? Oh,

1133
01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:13.239
if you please do it, and
first before you start, and we've

1134
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:15.680
got plenty of time here in this
half hour, but uh, great,

1135
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:19.199
before you share your Christmas story,
I would have to say, on behalf

1136
01:34:19.439 --> 01:34:26.359
of Mike McConnell, that is a
that's a Christmas classic. People wait to

1137
01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:30.960
hear that study. In his mind, it's his classic. Okay, he

1138
01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:32.840
thinks it's a classic, and he
keeps on saying it over and over and

1139
01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:38.279
over again. I know it by
heart on Christmas. But once that's great.

1140
01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:41.520
You know he's got a story to
share. We won't put my story

1141
01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:44.439
up to his story and see who's
his best? Okay? How is that

1142
01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:46.159
that sounds good? Are you ready? Yes? I ready? You know

1143
01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:48.560
I was a kid I grew up
in Brooklyn, New York. Because a

1144
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:50.920
kid growing up in New York City, you know, and I know that

1145
01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:55.239
every major department store had a Santa
Claus. There was Macy's, there was

1146
01:34:55.319 --> 01:34:58.239
Gimbals, there was a and S
which is Abraham and Strauss. Okay,

1147
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:01.680
and it was quite unusual for a
Jewish kid like me want me to meet

1148
01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:06.600
Santa Claus. Yet all my friends
were always boasting how this big fat guy

1149
01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:11.119
with a beard would give away presents
and goodies this time of the year,

1150
01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:14.039
all right, So I begged my
mama. I said, MA, would

1151
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:17.359
please take me to see Santa Claus
at a and s to Abraham and Strauss.

1152
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:20.600
We took the subway, but going
down there, I'll remember it like

1153
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:25.760
goes yesterday. We passed Pacific Street
stop and the next station was Decalbery Avenue.

1154
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:28.920
Up the escalator. My heart was
pounding a and s was right in

1155
01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:30.800
walking distance. I saw it.
I was in heaven. Okay, I

1156
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:34.079
was nervous. What was I gonna
say? Well, what I asked for?

1157
01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:38.439
You know, I didn't even ask
my friends what they did when they

1158
01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:42.119
visited Santa. But it was too
late. Why I was online and I

1159
01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:45.760
was next and the big fight fat
guy with the white beard said, okay,

1160
01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:48.920
come on, you're an acts.
Time to meet Santa. I didn't

1161
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:53.439
even think my legs would move,
so I approached him in a big chair.

1162
01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:55.840
Hop on, he said, hop
on, have a seat on my

1163
01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:59.119
lab. Tell me what you're like
for Christmas. I couldn't get the coach

1164
01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:01.279
to talk, but follow the words
crept out. I whispered in his ear

1165
01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:04.640
and I said, Sannah, I'm
a little nervous, and this is my

1166
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:08.279
first time visiting you. He says, don't be afraid, my boy,

1167
01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:11.439
don't be afraid. So I asked
him if I could whisper in his ear

1168
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:13.600
as to what I had to say, and he said, of course.

1169
01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:17.039
I said, Santa, I'm just
a little bit nervous because I'm Jewish.

1170
01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:20.600
All right. He came back closer. It came to my year, and

1171
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:24.520
he whispered back, you know what
he said, Yeah, don't worry at

1172
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:30.720
all. Son, So am I
And that's my Santa story, my Christmas

1173
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:33.840
story. Well, I forget it. It was riveting, very compelling.

1174
01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:38.680
Thank you, thank you for sharing
that with us. So it was updated,

1175
01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:41.239
it was funny. I don't think
it was okay. I don't think

1176
01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:46.239
that he's probably the first or the
last Jewish store. Sanna Andy, I

1177
01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:50.399
agree. I don't think that's probably
uncommon. But I do find it quite

1178
01:36:50.840 --> 01:36:56.079
instructive that you wanted to be part
of the grift that the other kids because

1179
01:36:56.119 --> 01:37:00.039
you knew you could get stuff.
That was your whole motivations. Most of

1180
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.560
my friends, you know, I
had, I had a bevy of friends

1181
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.159
that you know on our block where
I lived at eightieth Street, and Brooke.

1182
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:08.880
Then they were Jews, there were
Christians, there was everybody. You

1183
01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:11.159
know, we melted it. We
didn't care what religion we were. But

1184
01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:14.880
when it came to Christmas time,
I kept on wondering why these kids always

1185
01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:16.079
wanted to see Santa and what do
they get? What was this guy?

1186
01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:19.840
So I asked my mam, if
I could go see Santa, that's awesome.

1187
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:24.359
Well I think it was that great. You know, I don't remember

1188
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:30.279
except maybe as a little child ever
going to the department store to sit on

1189
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:33.880
Santa's lap. We were encouraged to
write letters maybe you know, and you

1190
01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:38.279
write letters all the time. I'm
surprised you didn't just drop a line to

1191
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:42.439
the north pole to get what you
want to. Look at that age,

1192
01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:47.039
didn't have my typewritt you came out
of the womb with a typewriter. No.

1193
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:51.000
I put the department stores in Cincinnati
and Greater Cincinnati probably all at Sinners,

1194
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:54.760
didn't they? And I remember the
malls even when I moved here years

1195
01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:58.199
ago, the malls had Santas during
Christmas time. Yeah, I didn't live

1196
01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:00.800
here, so I lived in places
where they had malls and they had Santa's.

1197
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:04.720
I'm sure we just it wasn't really
a family thing or something I aspired

1198
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:11.159
to do. Necessarily. I believed
that Santa would bring presents, and my

1199
01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:15.479
parents didn't discourage that belief, and
uh, you know, Santa Claus always

1200
01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:18.159
would show up on Christmas Morning with
goodies for us that we had asked for.

1201
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:23.399
That we told our parents that we
wanted. So I and even there

1202
01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:30.199
was one time We're visiting my grandparents
in Iowa and under what where? What

1203
01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:33.159
do you mean? Where's that?
Wait? Is that? What planet is

1204
01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:39.720
that on? It's it's that's what
I grow corn corn coin Land. It's

1205
01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:44.920
actually the bread basket of America.
Without Iowa, you probably wouldn't be living

1206
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.720
right now. You probably I went
to the Reds to the Reds game two

1207
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:53.239
years ago in the summer time when
they played the Cubs in Iowa, that

1208
01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:59.800
game in the in the Field of
Dreams. Oh yeah no. But so

1209
01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:02.319
I remember one time at the grandparents
we were there for Christmas. We were

1210
01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:06.159
little kids. I was probably about
I don't know, six five. My

1211
01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:14.079
younger brothers were like three and one, and we would be there at Grandma

1212
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:16.880
and Grandpa's and parents are there and
we're just visiting for the Christmas holiday,

1213
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:20.039
and all of a sudden there's a
knock on the door Christmas Eve and it

1214
01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:25.520
is snowing outside. It's a huge
blanket. It was a mountain of snow

1215
01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:29.520
piling up outside on Christmas Eve,
just what you want. And it's late.

1216
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:31.439
We were allowed to stay up a
little bit later. And there's a

1217
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:35.359
knock on the door, and lo
and behold, it's Santa Claus at the

1218
01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:39.319
front door. He didn't come down
the chimney, obviously, because there was

1219
01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:41.880
a roaring fire in the chimney.
It would have burned as took us.

1220
01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:46.479
So anyway, we're there with Santa
Claus and he's bringing gifts from us.

1221
01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:51.319
And they'd done this with a neighbor
next door who agreed to. Of course,

1222
01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:56.279
we had no idea. We thought
it was actually the jolly old Elf

1223
01:39:56.359 --> 01:40:00.159
himself who would stop by grandmon Grandpa's
house instead of coming down the chimney and

1224
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:04.800
burning his butt. But so there
we are, and and he's got his

1225
01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:10.039
big knapsack, he's got a pack
and just handing gifts out of the big

1226
01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:14.520
red sack. And that was a
wonderful, marvelous Christmas as I remember,

1227
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:18.760
But there were not a whole lot
of them. You know, it's wonderful

1228
01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:23.239
when you see these stories on TV. I mean, you really against you

1229
01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:25.880
because people don't think I have a
heart, but I do have a little

1230
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:28.920
bit of a heart. And I
see the kid's eyes lighte up like silver

1231
01:40:29.039 --> 01:40:31.479
dollars when they see standing when they
get these gifts. I mean, you

1232
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:33.680
know. And on the other side
of the coin to some ugly stories,

1233
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:39.000
when I saw some lady in Norwood
had a motorcycle or a bike for a

1234
01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:43.119
kid for Christmas, and some kids
stole it off the front. You know,

1235
01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:46.880
they got it. They got the
bike. Yes, they saw and

1236
01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:50.079
somebody said, hey, that's the
bike we saw on TV. And then

1237
01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:54.760
the little seven year old got his
motorbike back. Great. Great, And

1238
01:40:54.880 --> 01:40:58.159
I tell you so funny about that
story. First of all, how could

1239
01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:00.600
you live with yourself by doing that
to someone? Number two, how do

1240
01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:04.359
you even ride that in the neighborhood
knowing that it's not us and someone's going

1241
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:08.319
to see it because it was on
TV. So I mean, how smart

1242
01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:11.039
can you be by doing that?
But again, those people have a chance

1243
01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:15.039
of getting it back someday with carma. I mean, you just people just

1244
01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:17.239
that way. I don't know if
you did be brought up there, If

1245
01:41:17.279 --> 01:41:20.399
you do something like that in the
first place, you just don't care,

1246
01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:26.880
Andy, You just don't care about
anybody else's feelings at all. Yeah,

1247
01:41:27.079 --> 01:41:30.359
you're probably right. So did you
ever have did you ever have? So?

1248
01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:34.680
Obviously even though your family was Jewish, you were Jewish, you've got

1249
01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:38.560
Christmas gifts? No, No,
I was, I still am. I

1250
01:41:39.119 --> 01:41:42.359
understand I'm talking about at the time, and yes, you still are.

1251
01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:47.439
That's good. So do you remember
any memorable Christmas gifts you got as a

1252
01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:54.720
child? Andy? You know,
it's funny, you just I don't really

1253
01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:57.960
remember. I'm sure there were some
great ones, and you know, I

1254
01:41:58.439 --> 01:42:01.000
was never one of those kids.
My brother and I we just never wanted,

1255
01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:03.920
Thank goodness. We came from a
beautiful home, and you know,

1256
01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:08.439
we got everything we ever wanted all
our lives, and that was great.

1257
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:11.439
So there's nothing that really that.
We got bikes, you know, we

1258
01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:14.560
had an electric train set, which
is a wonderful big train set. I

1259
01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.399
don't even know where it is now, but you know, we were taking

1260
01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:19.039
care of his kids. We really
were, had a nice home, had

1261
01:42:19.079 --> 01:42:23.359
a nice little apple tree in the
backyard with a basketball goal, and then

1262
01:42:23.760 --> 01:42:26.159
on that tree. So we lived
in a good neighborhood and we had a

1263
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.880
lot of good times. Andy Furrman, how was the dentist this morning?

1264
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:32.079
Did you get gas? You know? No, I tell you it's funny.

1265
01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:33.960
All I had to do is get
at my check up and it's got

1266
01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:38.600
a cleaning. That's it. But
the lady who did the deal, I

1267
01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:41.439
mean she had me like on a
stretcher, like I was stretched out.

1268
01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:44.760
Yeah. I was never that flat
on a chair. And I didn't like

1269
01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:46.399
it because when I got up,
honestly, I got dizzy. I was

1270
01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:48.279
light at it, and I told
the then to say, you know,

1271
01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:51.199
he got nervous. No, no, don't worry. I'm okay. I'm

1272
01:42:51.239 --> 01:42:55.680
okay, just like I think the
blood has to rush back down from being

1273
01:42:55.880 --> 01:42:58.159
you know, laying on your side. And it wasn't like laying on a

1274
01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:00.039
lounge chair with your head. It
is like, you know, at a

1275
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:02.520
forty five degree angle. I was
totally flat. I was like horizontal.

1276
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:05.560
Why she did that to me,
I don't know. I never had that

1277
01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:09.640
before the deadist. But you know, everything's good and everything's clean now,

1278
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:12.279
it's good. Well, I mean
I don't want to smoke a cigar because

1279
01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:15.920
I got my teeth dirty. Well, it's going to happen eventually, you

1280
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:18.800
know, you know you're able to
keep keep away from your stogies. Man,

1281
01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:23.000
I mean that's part of your persona, that's part of your everyday life.

1282
01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:26.119
Really yeah, well not every day, but I enjoy it. I

1283
01:43:26.119 --> 01:43:30.319
do enjoy it when Jose When Jose
Rio, When Jose Rio comes into town

1284
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:32.520
and the first thing he does is
visit you, comes right into your house

1285
01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:35.520
and said, Andy, you got
a cigar for him? And that's what

1286
01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:39.439
you told me, you said,
Jose Rio comes into town. He always

1287
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:43.720
shows up at your house and always
demands a cigar. You know, it's

1288
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:46.720
funny. He came to my house
and he walked in and he said,

1289
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:49.159
how are you doing? And the
neighbors went crazy. They came over.

1290
01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:53.479
He took pictures of Jose He's the
one that I love. Jose. He

1291
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:56.640
was a partner of mine with the
Lake Grick Cook. We had a restaurant

1292
01:43:56.640 --> 01:43:59.960
nowhood from a sports cafe, and
Jose was there and all the wages is

1293
01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:01.359
love them. However, she comes
to the house and ask for a citar.

1294
01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:04.159
Is it by the way you alone? No, No, the wife's

1295
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:06.960
in the car, I is aware
in your driveway, is it bringer in?

1296
01:44:08.039 --> 01:44:10.960
No, No, he stayed in
my house with the neighbors for a

1297
01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:15.079
good forty five minutes. The car. Yeah, they're in the car.

1298
01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:17.600
I don't understand. But maybe that's
the way it is, you know what

1299
01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:21.520
in the Dominican I don't know.
Maybe maybe that's custom. Maybe that's Dominican

1300
01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:27.079
customers not questioning it us to walk
like ten paces behind him when they're out

1301
01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:30.800
somewhere. Who knows, maybe some
I don't know. Let me ask you

1302
01:44:30.840 --> 01:44:33.119
this, Andy Furman, look into
your crystal ball, because I know you

1303
01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:41.239
have one there, And what do
you see for the future of Cincinnati sports

1304
01:44:41.279 --> 01:44:45.239
directly as we head into the new
year? And what kind of Christmas gift

1305
01:44:45.560 --> 01:44:51.119
would you like to have seen the
Bengals get after that awful, awful performance

1306
01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:56.199
this past weekend? What what Christmas
gift? Well, the gift I want

1307
01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:59.319
to see is I want to see
them beat a team that's in turmoil right

1308
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:01.199
now, which is the Kansas City
Chiefs, Right That's what I'd like to

1309
01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:04.000
see, you know. And everybody's
giving me all the scenarios. I'm looking

1310
01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:09.039
at the New York Times playoff possibilities
forget that stuff. It's all about winning.

1311
01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:11.840
You gotta win. You gotta beat
Kansas City. Otherwise you're in deep

1312
01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:14.840
doo doo. Gotta beat them.
But they're a team in turmoil. However,

1313
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:17.399
the game is in Kansas City,
and I don't like playing a team

1314
01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:23.079
that is coming off like this turmoil. That when they played Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh

1315
01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:26.640
had lost three straight games and they
come and to play at home in Pittsburgh.

1316
01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:29.600
That's not a good sign. And
just destroying the Steelers destroyed, the

1317
01:45:29.640 --> 01:45:34.520
Bengals destroyed. But a quarterback,
a quarterback hadn't played in two years,

1318
01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:39.039
Mason Rudolph. When I heard Mason
Rudolph, I said, one of Santa's

1319
01:45:39.039 --> 01:45:43.079
reindeer, the one with the red
noses, playing quarterback for Pittsburgh. Well

1320
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:47.600
was he really and truly? And
scouts have said that he was the best

1321
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:53.680
quarterback in preseason. This guy was
outstanding at Oklahoma State. He was unbelieves

1322
01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:58.079
he still holds every quarterback record at
Oklahoma State. And why he got screwed

1323
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:00.479
over and passed over properly because of
the money that was spent on their draft

1324
01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:04.279
pick and maybe on their backup.
But we'll see what happens at Trubisky,

1325
01:46:04.319 --> 01:46:08.680
but I know he's going to start
now. And it's funny because I asked

1326
01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:13.000
my Sunday morning partner on Fox Sports
Radio, Bucket Brooks, who played in

1327
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:15.399
the NFL for five years, I
said, whatever happened to that rule you

1328
01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:19.760
don't lose your starting job for injury? Because would Trubisky come back or pick

1329
01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:25.039
it come back to play for Pittsburgh
this week? He's that rules out the

1330
01:46:25.079 --> 01:46:28.199
window. Mason Rudolph's going to play, and Mason's going to get the start

1331
01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:31.159
this Sunday for the Pittsburgh Steelers because
what he did last week, and that's

1332
01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:34.479
the way it should be. Well, what the Bengals needed for Christmas was

1333
01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:39.920
somebody who can actually call offensive plays. Thanks, how about that? Your

1334
01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:45.199
dad? A fourth and inches,
fourth and inches to the goal line and

1335
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:47.840
there's a pass play called. No
one's really really bought that up and kind

1336
01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:54.199
of digested that. Why that was? I guess that Zach Taylor raised the

1337
01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:57.520
white flag and said, look,
we can't run against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1338
01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:00.439
The first time they played in this
year, they team rushed was something like

1339
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:03.439
thirty five yards, so they wasn't
much better. And I don't understand.

1340
01:47:03.439 --> 01:47:06.840
I see you go for a pass
play with fourth and inches when you know

1341
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:12.199
the field is shrunk because you're into
that goal line situation and they didn't make

1342
01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:15.560
it, you know, And what
kind of momentum does that turned the game

1343
01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:17.880
around for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
look at it. They started in the

1344
01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:20.920
hole and the hole got deeper and
deeper. Okay, So we're the home

1345
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:26.800
of the Bearcats, and we also
host Xavier Musketeer games from time to time

1346
01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.399
when there's not a conflict with UC
basketball. For the new year, I

1347
01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:33.680
know you love basketball. What do
you see these teams? What kind of

1348
01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:38.600
you're looking I'm looking at an upswing. I'm looking at an upscreen. If

1349
01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:41.800
you're going to graft the Xavier Musketeers, they are on the upscreen. How

1350
01:47:41.840 --> 01:47:45.159
they beat Seaton Hall, and not
only be they beat about twenty And there

1351
01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:48.560
is a team that came off a
big win prior to the Xavier game.

1352
01:47:48.720 --> 01:47:54.159
I was shocked, especially after Xavier
looked terrible against Saint John's. They couldn't

1353
01:47:54.159 --> 01:47:57.880
even inbound the basketball. So they
came back bit time against Seaton Hall.

1354
01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.800
And this team is jelling and the
jailling at the right time. As far

1355
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:02.920
as you see is concerned. You
know, I question, they're going to

1356
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:06.960
be playing some heavy duty opponents now, the RMB twelve action, and you

1357
01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:12.359
know there may be lights out for
these guys right now. Kansas, Oklahoma.

1358
01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:15.039
I mean, you've got some big
time schools coming to play. It'll

1359
01:48:15.039 --> 01:48:18.199
make them better in the long run. But right now, I don't see

1360
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:23.039
antaa tournament in the headlights for the
UC backheads. For the people that always

1361
01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:27.680
say wait till next year, It's
almost next year. What about our Cincinnati

1362
01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:31.039
Reds in twenty twenty four? Andy, You know what, between FC Cincinnati

1363
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:34.960
and the Cincinnati Reds, those two
teams may have the best chance of success

1364
01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:40.439
in the next year. Really so, so you know, I think this

1365
01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:44.159
city is a better city when the
teams win. I think everybody's upbeat.

1366
01:48:44.199 --> 01:48:47.520
Everybody's no seriously, I think the
people are It's a funny thing. You

1367
01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:51.359
took to a psychiatrists probably tell you. I think the people they work better,

1368
01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:56.800
they get along better, they're not
bitter, there's no angst. Well

1369
01:48:57.079 --> 01:49:00.520
they have something, they have,
something uncommon to each other. It's all

1370
01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:03.960
about right and there's a lot of
pride, a lot of community prior our

1371
01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:08.760
team. Yeah, and they're wearing
If you saw last Sunday, even though

1372
01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:12.159
the Bengals were in Pittsburgh, walk
around town, everybody's wearing Bengals gear,

1373
01:49:12.439 --> 01:49:15.520
hoodies and sweatshirts and T shirts and
ads. I mean, there's a lot

1374
01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:18.199
of pride there and I think it'll
continue now. It will happen again on

1375
01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:21.920
Monday on New Year's Day. If
they beat Kansas City on New Year's Eve,

1376
01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:25.439
That's what it's all about. Gotta
win, just got to win.

1377
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:29.239
We know the Chiefs are my team. Actually, so I didn't want to

1378
01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:31.119
that and I have not been.
I know, want people to hate you

1379
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:34.359
anymore than they do, I know
exactly. I don't know how it could

1380
01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:41.000
exacerbate that, that that emotion against
me. But I'm trying. I am

1381
01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:45.600
really seriously trying. I'm looking forward. I'm looking forward to the new year,

1382
01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:48.399
Andy, just because of all the
wonderful conversations you and I will have

1383
01:49:49.039 --> 01:49:54.760
on ensuing night caps in twenty twenty
four. Are you on board for more

1384
01:49:54.840 --> 01:49:57.840
bad I want to say this,
I want to publicly say this. I

1385
01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:00.399
do appreciate this. It was a
time I thought you'd have a like me,

1386
01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:03.359
and I remember I remember like It
was yesterday. I was doing sports

1387
01:50:03.359 --> 01:50:09.520
talk at night and I was talking
about John Cheney and Bob Huggins may and

1388
01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:12.880
may he rest in peace, and
not Bob Huggins, but John Cheney.

1389
01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:17.279
And and you called up on the
hotline and you said something terrible about John

1390
01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:20.319
Cheney. I mean it was bad, and I went back at you.

1391
01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:25.159
And when they were playing Temple obviously, and from that day on, I

1392
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:27.680
just said this, that doesn't like
me. And I used to see you

1393
01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:30.039
in the hallway and I just kind
of had that feeling. And now all

1394
01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:33.199
of a sudden, I hate to
say, what kind of buds almost?

1395
01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:38.279
I mean not, you know,
Andy, it doesn't It doesn't help when

1396
01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:43.199
you're visiting after you had left full
time at seven hundred WLW, but you

1397
01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:45.760
were visiting. You were on with
Willie or something. And I see you

1398
01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:49.439
in the newsroom in our old studios
here in this building of Montgomery, and

1399
01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:53.159
I see you, and you look
at me, and the first thing you

1400
01:50:53.199 --> 01:50:56.760
say to me, Andy is Gary, Jeff, you don't age well,

1401
01:50:56.840 --> 01:50:59.960
do you. It's like that was
not the nicest thing for you to say,

1402
01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:03.279
and right, and I take it
back, but I do want to

1403
01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:08.000
say this public. I appreciate the
time that you've given me, the friendship

1404
01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:11.319
that we've kind of developed over the
last year or so, and being on

1405
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:14.840
your show. And I wont to
wish everybody that's in the sound of my

1406
01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:17.840
voice a very happy and healthy new
year, I mean, prosperous. Hopefully,

1407
01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:20.880
hopefully the interest rates and people who
will go down so we could have

1408
01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:24.760
a little more breathing room. I
just hope everything is good. I really

1409
01:51:24.760 --> 01:51:28.520
do hope the wars stop. Let's
have a little peace, peace and quiet,

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and that everybody at seven hundred,
you know, God bless you,

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01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:33.880
and I appreciate them even loving me
through the door to be on the airways

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01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:36.560
with you. I really do well. Andy, just remember peace on Earth,

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And I talked with somebody about this
actually yesterday at Kroger when I was

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shopping. Peace on Earth and goodwill
towards men has to start right, has

1415
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.479
to start with us. You can't
expect anybody else to do it. So

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01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:54.000
you and I are Earth the shining
gleaming examples of how people should ask.

1417
01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:58.279
Let's lead away, Let's lead the
way. First Channel Flave says, leading

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01:51:58.319 --> 01:52:00.840
the way for of all. Have
a happy new year. We'll talk to

1419
01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:02.880
you soon, God bless you,
thank you. Well. That's it for

1420
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me today, and I believe ken
Brew waiting on the other side to continue

1421
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:15.000
your broadcast day. I'll be back
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