WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:08.640 Well, today we're going to begin with our interview. Usually we have our 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:12.519 interviews in the third hour, but joining us now because he's going to be 3 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:18.320 involved in events in New York City today on the anniversary of September eleven, 4 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:22.800 Joining us as Richard Gage, AIA and architecture thirty years from the San Francisco 5 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:27.600 Bay Area, a member of the American Institute of Architects, founder and former 6 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:31.800 CEO of Architects and Engineers for nine eleven Truth. He is now independent. 7 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.719 He, along with his courageous wife and assistant Gail, continues to lead the 8 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:41.679 charge hoard of real investigation into the destruction of all three three World Trade Center 9 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:45.679 skyscrapers on nine eleven. You can find him at Richard Gage nine eleven dot 10 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:49.920 org. Mister Gage became interested in researching the destruction of the World Trade Center 11 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:55.799 high rises after learning after hearing the startling conclusions of the reluctant nine to eleven 12 00:00:55.880 --> 00:01:00.439 researcher David Ray Griffin on the radio in two thousand and six, which which 13 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:06.359 launched his own unyielding quests for the truth about nine to eleven. The organization 14 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:11.359 he founded a nine to eleven Truth now numbers more than thirty five hundred architects 15 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.599 and engineers demanding a new investigation ended the destruction of all three World Trade Center 16 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.280 high rise buildings on nine eleven. As an architect, he's worked on most 17 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:26.120 types of building construction, including numerous fireproofed, steel framed buildings. Most recently, 18 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.799 he worked on the construction documents for a four hundred million dollar mixed use 19 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.920 urban project with one point two million square feet of retail, parking, structure 20 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:40.879 and mid rise office space, altogether about twelve hundred tons of steel framing. 21 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:45.120 Please welcome Richard Gage, AIA architect. Thank you so much, sir. 22 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:48.879 Thank you, David. It's about it to be here with you. Well, 23 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.599 thank you. Let's talk a little bit about the key thing. And 24 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.439 over my shoulder here it's a picture of nine to eleven New York City, 25 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.680 the commemoration that they put up where they have two beams that are shining up 26 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:02.640 into the sky. Interesting that they didn't do a third one. Let's talk 27 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.599 about that third one. Yeah, we did do a third one. About 28 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:13.280 what was it ten years ago? Now, we actually rented force search lights 29 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:17.120 put up on the back of a pickup trump and then from where we were 30 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:22.080 it looked like three beams. It was all designed to be that way. 31 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:27.719 And we called the media in downtown well around New York and said, there's 32 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.479 a third beam in the sky, and we showed it to them and tried 33 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.759 to create a thing out of it. The third beam is about Building seven. 34 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:39.280 Yeah, Building seven. Most architecture and engineers don't even know about the 35 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:46.039 third worst structural failure in modern history. And most people in New York knew 36 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:49.120 about Building seven. They didn't know what came down. Then most of them 37 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:55.360 didn't know that it went back up again, it was rebuilt. So it's 38 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:59.719 quite a story. On the afternoon of nine to eleven, about five twenty 39 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:07.199 witness has heard explosions. Then this building drops like a rock, straight down, 40 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:14.439 uniformly, symmetrically into its own footprint in under seven seconds. So this 41 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.960 is exactly like the old hotels in Las Vegas when they bring them down with 42 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:23.800 controlled demolition. That you know, there's explosions first, and then the building 43 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:30.319 drops, well, the building drops it free fall David, straight straight down. 44 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:35.599 But freefall means as fast as a bowling ball falling from the sky. 45 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:40.080 So what does that mean? That means that not one of the eighty one 46 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:47.719 columns in this building gave any resistance to this seven second long fall. Well, 47 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:53.599 where did they go? There's forty thousand tons of structural steel framing in 48 00:03:53.599 --> 00:04:00.439 this building. Well, NIST says that it came down due to normal office 49 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:05.639 fires. Wait a minute, We have never in this story lost a steel 50 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:15.039 frame fire protected building type one construction ever due to fires. I mean, 51 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:20.480 we've had dozens of much hotter, larger and longer lasting fires in these buildings, 52 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:26.240 so not one of them. It's And then we've had many fully engulfed 53 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:30.720 fires in these kind of structures after nine to eleven, but no, not 54 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.079 one of those came down either. So we've got to have a real investigation. 55 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:40.480 And in fact, FEMA did that investigation for us, and others have 56 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:46.519 done it since. But right away in two thousand and two, FEMA finds 57 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:54.319 in the metallurgical exist sampling of the steel a hot corrosion attack on the steel. 58 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:59.160 It's author, Jonathan Barnett, a fire protection engineer, says the ends 59 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:04.839 of the beams were partly evaporated and extraordinarily like the temperatures. Well, what 60 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:11.319 does that mean. I'll stop and let you I'll take a breath of Uteller 61 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.319 an ordinary office fire, and you know, I would just say to the 62 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.399 people, because I've done this, and I think everybody needs to do this, 63 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:21.920 just go to YouTube and look up building demolitions and you can watch that. 64 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.720 You've got so many videos that have been put up. They just chain 65 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:30.399 one after the other. Watch all those and ask yourself if this is something 66 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.839 that just happened out of ordinary office fires. Just not possible that this type 67 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.160 of thing would have happened. I remember you, you know, you mentioned 68 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:45.560 that it was two thousand and six when you saw an interview of the researcher 69 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.319 talking about this. I got you interested in it. This happened my recollection. 70 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:54.480 We didn't have a video. We didn't have any television, and so 71 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:58.439 I didn't see any video of it. We had horrible internet as well at 72 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.720 the time in two thousand, when we're living out in the woods. It 73 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.639 wasn't we weren't doing some kind of homesteading thing. We were just in an 74 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:08.560 area where it was dead in terms of broadcast signals and terms of internet and 75 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:12.519 all the rest of stuff. So I was relying on friends and family calling 76 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.079 because we had family in New York. We actually had a family member who 77 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.199 was in one of the buildings and then got out, And so I'm listening 78 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.600 to this and it's like, these planes are hitting the building. Then they 79 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:24.519 call back later and they say one of them just collapsed. And in my 80 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:28.480 mind I saw this thing going down at an angle, taking out a large 81 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.040 part of Manhattan. It wasn't until years later then I really saw these things 82 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:34.120 going right down into their footprint. It's like, what what's gone on with 83 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:38.040 that? You know? They said, well, it didn't hit any other 84 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.120 buildings. I'm thinking, how in the world did that happen? And then 85 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.000 when I saw it in freefall, that was you know, when it's like, 86 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.839 okay, okay, I know. I was mainly concerned with how they 87 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.680 were using this event to take away our liberties. But then I saw what 88 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:53.920 that was and it's like, oh, yeah, that perfectly fits exactly does 89 00:06:54.680 --> 00:07:00.759 it really does? And the evidence they just give it to us, I 90 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:06.040 mean, hot sulfur corrosion attack on the steel, Well, guess what, 91 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:14.879 fire, especially normal office fires, do not corrode steel with silver dollar size 92 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:21.319 holes. It just doesn't happen. Steel is not flammable, and yet out 93 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:30.920 of the towers are ejected. Laterally, four and eight ton structural steel sections 94 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:39.439 at six hundred landing six hundred feet away, ejected at eighty miles an hour 95 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:46.639 laterally cloked by physicists. So these these sections are freely flying. You can 96 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:54.279 see them in the videos. There's thousands of them, and they are on 97 00:07:54.720 --> 00:08:01.000 fire. Well, steel is not flammable in office fire condition. So here's 98 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.040 yet another of the dozens of pieces of evidence we're going to talk about that 99 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:13.920 gives us absolutely this is not of a classic progressive collapse as mist claims. 100 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.759 They claim that the upper part of the North tower and the South tower drove 101 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.600 the rest of the building down to the ground and then destroyed itself. Well, 102 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.680 that violates Newton's third law of physics. There's an equal and opposite destruction 103 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:35.559 when two bodies collide. Though the top part is the lightest, it's the 104 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:41.159 weakest, it would have crushed it destroyed itself even coming into contact with the 105 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:48.519 first part of the cold, hard, heavy steel, intact and not hot. 106 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:54.159 So that gives it away. But what really gives it away is the 107 00:08:54.320 --> 00:09:03.080 videos. They don't show in these towers, either of any of the videos. 108 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.919 A a top section driving the rest of the building down to the ground, 109 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.080 at all. It had to be a little bit bit of delay. 110 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:11.879 It had to be a little bit of delay. As one section hits the 111 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.000 next one, you know it would go down. It went a jolted, 112 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:20.519 but it's a sudden, smooth transition. The upper part is destroying itself. 113 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:24.080 Actually it's not driving the rest of the building down to the ground. It's 114 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:31.639 telescoping in on itself, disintegrating its internal cohesive structure. And you see these 115 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:37.600 squibs coming out, particularly the South tower. Dozens of them. Squibs are 116 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:45.879 isolated explosive ejections, and they're emerging simultaneously out of the South Tower, and 117 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.039 you're going, what's that. You have to kind of look for some of 118 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.519 these videos, but they're everywhere to find. Well, it begins to tip 119 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:58.320 over the South tower, but the as it's doing that, these explosions are 120 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:03.759 coming off of it, and it then begins to settle back because it lost 121 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:09.960 its internal integrity there. Well, after the first three seconds, it's a 122 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:18.840 very different story because well then is when we have these belt of explosions down 123 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:24.320 below that the first responders are one hundred fifty six of them are on record 124 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:31.080 orally in the orally oral recording as they called them by Thomas Bonnis and the 125 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:37.799 chief fire commissioner. He required everybody to be recorded because he didn't want the 126 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:43.039 memory to be reshaped by a collective memory, as his words will one hundred 127 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:48.200 and fifty six of these first responders talking about explosions, hearing explosions, seeing 128 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:54.799 explosions being blown around the building by explosions like a belt, all these explosions 129 00:10:54.919 --> 00:11:00.720 going all the way around the building. Others further away said like a running 130 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:07.320 under my feet. I like you wanted to grab onto something. The firefighters 131 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:13.039 said like boom boom boom boom boom, boom boom, like they've wanted to 132 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:18.399 take down a building. These are all on record, some of them are, 133 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.120 or at least and more just on video. It's incredible. But then 134 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:28.039 the building comes down in just twelve seconds, both of them identically. I 135 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.559 mean, these are very different damage patterns to these buildings through the fires and 136 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:39.159 the planes, the columns breaking, but they all come down symmetrically uniformly, 137 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:46.000 and you can see the belts of explosions advancing rapidly down the face of the 138 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:50.879 building. Individual explosions, twelve of them, you can actually count them in 139 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.120 the close up. You can't, but don't believe you're lying eyes just listen 140 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.600 to the government. It's crazy. And you know, if you point it 141 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.320 out, it's not just free fall collapse. But we've had a lot of 142 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:07.000 fires before and even since. We have steel buildings that will burn for days, 143 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.519 and I've I've shown those. When they happen, you see a twisted 144 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.799 metal skeleton, but it doesn't collapse. You know, it might be bent 145 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.360 over a little bit and anything, but it's still there because of that steel 146 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.000 frame, even though the thing burned for days, and so nothing makes sense 147 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.360 out of this as an architect, you know, when you look at this. 148 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.279 One of the big smoking guns about this as well is why haven't there 149 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:35.000 been any changes in the way that they do firefighting? Why haven't there been 150 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:39.559 any changes in architectural rules. Why there haven't there been any lawsuits against the 151 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:46.320 people who designed this building or against the you know, the New York where 152 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.440 they had the code and they did the inspection on this because they had already 153 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.120 had a plane that it hit the Empire State Building way back when, and 154 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.000 so they knew that was a possibility. That was something that they designed for, 155 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:03.200 right Yep, they did John Skelling said, this plane could take two 156 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.639 hits from a seven H seven, which when they were built in seventy three 157 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.440 was the largest building to a plane of its kind. But the problem would 158 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.759 be, he said, that the fuel would dump into the building, but 159 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:20.320 the building would still be there. Well, it's fireproofed. Yes, it 160 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.240 should have still been there. But if we look, we can get a 161 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:31.080 clue, David, if we actually look at the in the dust in the 162 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:41.399 aftermath. What does the US Geological Survey finding every sample previously molten iron microspheres, 163 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:46.960 billions of them, all the samples, up to six percent of some 164 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.879 of these samples, all of them are molten iron microspheres. What does that 165 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.519 mean iron? We haven't used iron in our skyscrapers for one hundred years. 166 00:13:54.559 --> 00:14:01.080 This is elemental iron steel. It's molten meaning it achieved twenty eight hundred degree 167 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.600 temperatures, which fires don't even get a quarter that hot. Typically, these 168 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.960 fires were probably less than that because they're indicated by the thick black smoke they 169 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:16.679 were going out. At the time of the collapse, there were oxygen starved, 170 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:24.919 so we the USGS finds these microspheres spheres because aerosolized liquids form themselves into 171 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.440 spheres by surface tension. That's just what they do. The EPA says, 172 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:35.000 we don't know what these multi n iron microspheres are or where they came from, 173 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:39.159 but their signature component of the World Trade Center dust. In other words, 174 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.200 it's not even World Trade Center dust unless it has these billions of microspheres 175 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:50.240 in them. R J League and Environmental Concern confirmed doing work on this dust, 176 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:58.960 says these are formed not before but when the building was being built by 177 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:05.799 the welders, afterward by the iron workers taking it apart but drewing the event. 178 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.960 Well, wait a minute, what does that mean? Iron? Molten 179 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:16.600 iron is the byproduct of thermite. Thermite is an incendiary used by the military 180 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:22.000 to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter. So we have all 181 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:28.440 the dust giving us exactly what happened here. We're talking about thermite at the 182 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:33.799 residue of thermite everywhere in the dust, every sample. In fact, a 183 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.919 team of eight international scientists led by Niels Harriet and Copenhagen find all of those 184 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:46.720 and they confirm that, but they also confirm something that others have not found, 185 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:52.960 and this is chips of red gray material. They thought it was paint, 186 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.000 but it's attracted to a magnet, so it has a high iron content. 187 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.799 Where you go, well, this is interesting, why does it have 188 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:04.399 a iron content? They do xeeds analysis, extra energy disperses, spectroscopy. 189 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:11.559 What do they find? Aluminum and iron, the key ingredients of thermite in 190 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.360 the red layer of these dual layered red gray chips. They go, whoa, 191 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.879 we gotta get to the bottom of this. They zoom me in fifty 192 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:26.759 thousand times and they find nanoparticles of iron oxide and aluminum powder. Now we're 193 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:33.799 talking about super thermite, nano thermite. They identify it as thermite because not 194 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:36.960 only do they know the key ingredients, they put it in a heater, 195 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:41.639 a differential scanning calorimeter and it ignites. What does it do when it ignites? 196 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:49.159 It makes all of these molten iron microspheres with the same chemical signature as 197 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:55.519 the molten iron microspheres found in the dust by the US Geological Survey R. 198 00:16:55.639 --> 00:17:00.639 J. Lee and others. So we know exactly where are those malten iron 199 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.559 microspheres came from. They came from these red gray chips. So we have 200 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:12.079 unignited evidence of unignited thermite in the malten iron micospheres and evidence of ignited thermite. 201 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:18.240 I got it backwards. Ignited thermite of the Maulten iron microspheres, unignited 202 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.920 thermite in these red gray chips which are ubiquitous, and all the seven samples 203 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:29.119 that they had independently collected all over Manhattan, from all over manhatte that they 204 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:33.119 were sent to them. So this is incredding incredible because when you reduce the 205 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:41.119 size of these articles in these chips to nano that's a thousand times smaller than 206 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:47.880 a diameter of human hair, the surface volume increases exponentially, so the chemical 207 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:53.160 reaction is virtually instantaneous. You've engineered an incendiary which works by means of massive 208 00:17:53.200 --> 00:18:00.680 heat to become more explosive, which works by things by knocking things over. 209 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.799 In fact, kind of what we let me interject this, it's kind of 210 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.279 like what we see when we'll see a grain elevator explode or somethings, because 211 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:12.480 the fine fine particles there can ignite because of the increase in the surface area. 212 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.079 Yeah, this is something that is already set up to ignite in the 213 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:21.240 first place. Well, you mean the grain elevator, Yeah, I mean 214 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:23.880 it's not as small particles of grain. But you know when you talk about 215 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.559 that, it's a small particles a thermite, right, Well, where does 216 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:33.400 it come from? Thermite is made only in the most advanced defense contracting laboratories. 217 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.680 Excuse me, NATO thermite. This is very special. Lawrence Livermore exposed 218 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:44.960 this to us before nineteen Before two thousand and one, they developed the peer 219 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.240 reviewed literature on it. They called it super thermite. They did these tests 220 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.839 on it, and yeah, it ignites at seven hundred and fifty eight degrees 221 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:59.119 in the in the differential scanning calorimeter. And that's exactly what these seven independent 222 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.640 samples did, so exactly what this stuff is. They put out a twenty 223 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:10.000 four page peer reviewed paper on this in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal in 224 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:17.079 two thousand and nine, and it's literal proof. Now we've had for more 225 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:22.920 than ten years of this material, but yet nobody's submitted their own peer reviewed 226 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:29.279 paper to challenge these results. It stands uncontested. So I mean, people 227 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.680 will say, oh, that's just paint, but it's been proven six ways 228 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:37.000 from Sunday. These are extremely exotic materials and responsible for the destruction of all 229 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.799 three World Trade Center skyscrapers on nine to eleven. If we got it into 230 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:45.799 a court of law, David, they would put the real perpetrators away for 231 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:51.640 mass murder and treason. Yes. Yeah, it reminds me of what happened 232 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:53.559 a week after nine eleven, that's the anthrax attacks. At first they said, 233 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.559 well, this is coming from Rock and then they said, well, 234 00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:00.880 no, it's a special kind of an And then as I look further, 235 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.839 as they tried to found a patsy they wanted to blame it on. Turns 236 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.759 out that the delivery mechanism, just like you're talking about how this is not 237 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:14.359 just ordinary thermite, it's super thermite. They found that the delivery mechanism for 238 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.640 this hand trax was also something that was limited to just two labs in the 239 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:22.599 United States. Yeah, and of course this guy that they'd picked for the 240 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.559 patsy didn't work at one of those two labs. I mean, the bottom 241 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.119 line is is that the technology is very advanced, allows them to get away 242 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:33.759 with this stuff, but it also points directly to them. At the same 243 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:38.400 time, it's a blessing that they've left us with. They do make mistakes. 244 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.680 I mean, they're big, they've got lots of money, they've got 245 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:48.480 evil intentions, it seems that they're murdering three thousand of their own people here. 246 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:53.720 And yes, and you know, since in the latest false flag operation 247 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:57.880 in the last three years, with the disease that's going around, it's false 248 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:04.000 disease with its fall solution, They've got a lot of power and influence obviously, 249 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:08.759 but we analyze them. And they just had this last week, just 250 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:14.759 before the anniversary, they said that they used DNA to identify two more victims 251 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.400 of this, and they seem to find the victims just before the anniversaries, 252 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.279 you know, when this starts to happen, and there's still over a thousand 253 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:25.359 people that disappeared on that day that they have not identified. They said with 254 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.160 DNA. Let's talk a little bit about the symmetry and the pile and the 255 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:37.720 destruction of evidence. Well, in the pile, first of all, you 256 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:44.680 brought this up. This is extremely important. There's more than eleven hundred people 257 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:51.960 for which there was no trace found. I mean, six thousand pieces they 258 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:56.720 did find were small enough to fit into a test two wow. And they 259 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:02.440 were distributed six to eight hundred feet outside each of the towers. So the 260 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:07.960 explosive mechanism was incredible. I mean, yes, we found three hundred whole 261 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:15.240 bodies. We should have found thirty three hundred, twenty seven hundred, a 262 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:19.200 lot of people bodies literally blown to bits. Absolutely. In fact, there 263 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:26.440 were bone fragments a half inch long found on top of the roof of the 264 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:32.720 Deutsche Bank building across the street from the South Tower. How did they get 265 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:37.319 there? We're talking these bodies should have been trapped between one hundred and ten 266 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.279 floors, each of which is made of four and eight inch thick concrete, 267 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:48.039 and none of which are found at the base of the tower. We don't 268 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:53.279 have these acre an acre in size, these floors. We don't have fifty 269 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:56.359 of them, we don't have ten of them. We don't have one of 270 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:02.119 them. What we do have at the base is of or five story pile 271 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:07.680 of twisted steel. Where's the concrete. It's been pulverized in midair. All 272 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.240 the photos, all the videos show just that, and it's been laid like 273 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:18.839 a blanket of one hundred micron average sized dust across Lower Manhattan from river to 274 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.839 river, three square miles of dust. That's where the concrete is, which 275 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:30.160 means what that the concrete is not available to crush the building if it's been 276 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:36.640 distributed and pulverized in mid air. Well, neither is the steel. About 277 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.039 ninety five percent or more of the steel has been ejected laterally, like we 278 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:48.640 talked about outside the building's footprint. That's one hundred thousand tons of steel that's 279 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:53.839 not available to crush the building either. And yet that's the whole theory of 280 00:23:55.000 --> 00:24:00.880 mists. There's so many ways to take apart that that story. They said 281 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:04.319 it drove the building down to the ground. It wasn't there to drive the 282 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:10.000 building down to the ground. And yes, the north tower particularly came down 283 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:15.119 almost symmetrical, which means all of those columns had to give way at once. 284 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.799 Otherwise it would have tipped over like you said, no jolt, It 285 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.880 would have hit the cold, hard, intact steel. It might have fallen 286 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.599 over if it was to be that badly damaged. But in reality, the 287 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:32.640 initiation of collapse never would have started, and if it did, it would 288 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:37.000 have slowed down and stopped. That's been proven by physicists as well, But 289 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.640 we don't have the platform that we need to prove these things. Yes, 290 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.039 yeah, so much for the domino theory of NST right. I mean, 291 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.480 we've had domino theories that led us into Vietnam War. Now we had this 292 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:53.160 domino theory about the collapse of the buildings. Absolutely is amazing. Yeah, 293 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.720 much of that very very thorough in terms of this, of course, you've 294 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:02.000 been on this for a very very long time. What about the destruction of 295 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.480 the evidence. I remember a lot of people that are still suffering after all 296 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:12.599 these years, was because they were so bent on getting this stuff removed as 297 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:18.440 much of it as they could and subjecting people to the dust because at that 298 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:22.759 point in time they didn't care about mass. They care all about masks now, 299 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.200 but they didn't then, and so as a mad rush to remove a 300 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:27.799 lot of this evidence, a lot of stuff that was still burning. Right. 301 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:33.240 Yeah, within two weeks after nine to eleven, this evidence has taken 302 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:38.440 out from under the noses of those who would investigate it, like structural engineer 303 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:45.799 Abel Hazen Astani Azzle from UC Berkeley, given a National Science Foundation grant to 304 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.000 study the steal. He said, they're taking all the steal to China to 305 00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:55.039 put in a melting pot for fifteen cents a pound. That's nothing, that's 306 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.440 what he says. And others couldn't get their hands on it to do a 307 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:04.839 proper forensic investigation. Four hundred truckloads per day were lined up, starting just 308 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.960 two weeks after nine to eleven, taking this to put it steel and putting 309 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:17.240 it on barges sent to China for recycling, I mean, and prompting Bill 310 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.960 Manning, editor in chief of Fire Engineering Magazine, to cry out on as 311 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:27.119 magazine, the magazine that ties all the fire protection engineers together in this country. 312 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.880 Crucial evidence, he says, there's on the slow vote to China, 313 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:37.000 showing an astounding ignorance of government officials to the value of a thorough scientific investigation. 314 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.799 The evidence, the destruction of evidence must stop. It didn't. Of 315 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:48.759 course, it continued at an incredible pace. This is the illegal destruction of 316 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.839 evidence in a crime scene. But guess what, this was an act of 317 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.480 war because of the attack on the Pentagon. So they were not bound they 318 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:03.519 said, or imagined by the rule of preservation of evidence. Yeah, it 319 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.480 wasn't an attack of war, wasn't it. But not from the people that 320 00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.119 they identified. And that's the key thing when you look at this, the 321 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:14.000 government story, regardless of what happened, the government story is just not even 322 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:18.200 close to being possible. And that's why you got involved in this investigating it. 323 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.519 Talk about the jet planes themselves and information that you found from that. 324 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.680 Well, we know the planes hit the towers, but we don't know what 325 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.839 planes hit the towers. There's all kinds of problems matching serial numbers. I 326 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.799 do have firefighters that were picking up plane parts. There's some people who say 327 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:45.200 there's no planes, but we have lots of evidence of planes. They're picking 328 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.400 them up, they're putting them in the bin. The FBI supervising that part 329 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:55.440 of it so they can control it, certainly because they don't want they don't 330 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.200 want those parts getting out. They got their wrong serial. What does that 331 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:02.799 mean? Well, you were going to execute a plan to bring down the 332 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:07.519 tallest buildings in the world, at least in nineteen seventy three, and one 333 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:12.400 of the largest in Manhattan. Each each war of this building was the size 334 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:18.279 of the football field. Would you trust and this one wasn't hit by a 335 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.839 plane, of course, and came down anyway. But for these two, 336 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:29.680 would you trust hijackers who failed Cessna flying school to bring those planes to their 337 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:37.640 targets? Probably not. In fact, there was remotely guided aircraft technology in 338 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:42.480 those planes at the time, though it was not well known, and this 339 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:51.400 has been researched by several others, including Captain Dan Hanley who runs Pilot Whistleblowers 340 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.720 and nine to eleven pilots dot org. You can learn more about that. 341 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.319 But yeah, there's there's some real problems with these with these planes where they 342 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:12.720 switched out were more refined military craft used with the same fuselage and wings which 343 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:21.000 they had. And some people actually said they saw a great plane. So 344 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.319 were they even did they have time to paint it? I don't even know 345 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.319 now when you say the different serial numbers, where did that? Where the 346 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:37.279 different serial numbers come from or what? Well? There, I don't have 347 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.839 the details on that, David. There's some things that research and there's some 348 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.640 things I I here that have been researched. That research does exist. I'm 349 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.319 not the source of it, and I'm top of my head. I can't 350 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.519 take you there. Yeah, that's not you. You focus more on the 351 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.240 architectural stuff in the buildings, you know. I find it interesting, and 352 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.920 I've said this before that there really wasn't even though we knew that there was 353 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.319 remote control capability for you know, commercial jets and things like that, because 354 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:10.599 they had used remote control to crash them as they would look to see what 355 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.839 happened to occupants inside during a crash. Just like you got crash test dummies 356 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.480 for cars. They did that for airplanes for years and and then immediately after 357 00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:25.279 this, you've got the war in Afghanistan. The stars of the war were 358 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.960 the autonomous drones and things like that, and so you know they come out 359 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:30.920 here. Oh, by the way, you know, it's we got this 360 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:33.880 fleet of these things. Now. You know, they kind of kept it 361 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.279 under wraps in terms of doing that, But even going back back into the 362 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:42.880 nineteen sixties, they'd even talked about in Operation Northwoods that they would do exactly 363 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:49.440 this type of thing in order to create public opinion around an attack on Cuba. 364 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.880 So we could fly these planes into buildings, we could take them out 365 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.599 and fake the fact that there are people on board and say it was blown 366 00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:02.279 up over the sea. We could even use it to attack military stations, 367 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.359 and we could use all that then and identify Cuba as the people doing it 368 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.400 in a false flying operation. That was what Operation Northwoods was all about. 369 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.799 They had proposed that JFK shut it down, but they had already proposed that 370 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.640 back in the early nineteen sixties and so for the longest time they'd had the 371 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.599 capability of doing remote control commercial jets. Uh, you know, it was 372 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.960 nothing new. Even though it seemed new to the public, it was not 373 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:32.480 in the public eye. And in fact, remote control goes all the way 374 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:38.319 back to World War Two, where we even had remote control. Uh, 375 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:44.519 we didn't have to use kamakazees. But that there's a plane in Florida in 376 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:51.680 an air museum, air Force museum that is noted specifically for its remote control 377 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.400 capability back in World War Two. So this is not you know, some 378 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.759 kind of sci fi thing, futuristic talk about did you get involved were you 379 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:06.519 primarily involved with the three buildings in New York? And of course that's a 380 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:07.279 key part of it. You know, everybody says, well, you know, 381 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.640 it was hit by a plane and then a quantified on the plane, 382 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:14.240 and but you know, the airplane fuel and everything. They believed that that 383 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.240 would do that, and you've you've addressed that. But the Building seven was 384 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.160 a key thing because it was not hit by an airplane, it wasn't loaded 385 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:22.680 with airplane fuel and all the rest of stuff. It's why they don't like 386 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:29.400 to talk about Building seven or even Yeah, this says, in the case 387 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.000 of the planes that did hit these, ninety percent of the fuel was burned 388 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:38.160 up outside the building. This is the National Institute of Standards and Technology was 389 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:44.119 tasked by Congress to explain these collapses to the American people. They said, 390 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.559 the rest was gone burned up in just ten minutes, so we didn't have 391 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:53.279 any jet fuel in these buildings for about an hour while they were burning almost 392 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:59.119 an hour less than the celltou So, yeah, you're right, but you 393 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:00.920 know, the public perception is, well, you know, of course they 394 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.839 collapse, they were hit by jets and all this skden the buildings. I 395 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.279 was not hit by jet. You know. The key thing is three buildings 396 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.359 but only two planes, you know, and that that's the key the math. 397 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.559 Yeah, exactly, it's like two plus two hicles five, you know, 398 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:20.440 it's and you've got witnesses. They hear explosions here, Kevin mcpadden says, 399 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.200 like, but boom like you like you were you wanted to grab onto 400 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.880 something. I knew that was an explosion. You know, because people who 401 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.359 tell the truth around these matters, they get ridiculed, and so they try 402 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:37.720 to be very specific. The first responders were extremely specific with regard to their 403 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:43.359 quotes before the towers came down, and then many of them saw flashes at 404 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.960 light. But in Darryl, a medical student in the case of Building seven, 405 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.920 says, we were watching the building and there was a clap of thunder 406 00:33:54.079 --> 00:34:01.200 and then the building came down, crashing down. Yeah, yeah, very 407 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:07.119 specific. Bill Rizati says, there's a flash of light in this building and 408 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:13.119 an allowed explosion. Well, give us got all the evidence we need. 409 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:19.559 Have you been focused on the Pentagon and what happened there or you primarily focused 410 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.079 on the New York buildings. Yeah, I am focused on the New York 411 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:28.400 buildings, but at the Pentagon. While there's controversy among nine to eleven truth 412 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.280 researchers about what did or didn't hit it, all of us agree that we 413 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:38.079 need a new investigation. For instance, we have Honey Hanjer, who failed 414 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:45.960 set snuff lying school himself, who is said to have maneuvered a this seven 415 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:53.239 fifty seven coming into the Pentagon, not dropping into through the vulnerable roof structure 416 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:59.920 to Donald Rumsfeld's office. No, that could have been done a dive bomb, 417 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:08.559 but a two hundred and seventy degree turn and dropping three thousand feet per 418 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:15.960 minute in what's more of a fighter jet type maneuver, coming straight in and 419 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:24.440 level with the ground hitting what the Naval Intelligence Department, who was tasked with 420 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:34.159 locating and accounting for the two point three trillion dollars that Donald Rumsfeld had announced 421 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:39.920 the day before nine to eleven was missing from the Panagon budget or unaccountable in 422 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.960 it. So that's that's really suspicious. Oh yeah, yeah. I had 423 00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:50.159 had a friend who was in the military went to West Point. He was 424 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.679 telling me, you know, years before that, talking about cruise missiles and 425 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.880 stuff. He said, you know, we can they're so accurate. We 426 00:35:54.920 --> 00:36:00.199 can pick which window of the Kremlin we want to fly them through. I 427 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:07.639 know. And then I had a personal experience which I was caught between Karen 428 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.320 and I and my wife were in this tourist shop in an area in Texas 429 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.719 and Dana Wimberley, and there was a lady there and she and her husband 430 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.679 had retired for the military, and it was a slow season, and my 431 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.119 wife is looking through and I'm just kind of standing there and she was desperate 432 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.960 to talk to somebody. She just starts monologuing about their career and how they 433 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:28.559 came here. She said, you know, when I used to work for 434 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.599 the Pentecon we were finding trillions of dollars that were missing, and we had 435 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.239 all kinds of people taking early retirement to avoid being incriminated and everything. She 436 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.199 goes, and then my husband retired and I followed him. We came here 437 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.360 and did this. She said, you know, it was really a blessing 438 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.280 because it was in my very office where that thing flu and she could not 439 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.280 connect the dots. Just amazing. You know, she did not connect the 440 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.840 dots. I said, who do you listen to for news shows? Some 441 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.039 Fox and stuff like that. It's like, okay, okay, and she's 442 00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.440 never hurt anybody. Question that. I imagine if she heard it would all 443 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.280 of a sudden it would click with her like that. But it didn't. 444 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.159 And you know, I'm sitting there and thinking I need to get my phone 445 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.760 out and start recording this. But I was afraid she was going to stop 446 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:14.760 talking, So I just you need to stick me on her. Everybody who 447 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.800 sees this evidence and we're just talking about it, right, David, But 448 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.360 what I have a thirty minute, an hour and a two hour presentation that 449 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.360 I do on these subjects, and it is overwhelming to watch this Building seven 450 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:31.519 dropping as fast as a bowling ball falling out of the sky. We've all 451 00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:36.079 seen the old hotel, so we know immediately what it is. We know 452 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.280 it was taken out. Therefore we know it was part of the nine to 453 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:45.679 eleven conspiracy. I mean, there's it takes looks of planning to execute these 454 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.679 controlled demolitions. So in Building seven, they say nobody died in this building, 455 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.480 although there's one witness, Verry Jennings, who says he was crawling over 456 00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:05.559 dead bodies to get out of that building. Regardless, the public is more 457 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:10.280 open to Building seven because it doesn't have the trauma associated with all of those 458 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.320 deaths and the incredible jumping out of the plant, out of the building, 459 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:21.679 and then the planes hitting the buildings. So we start with Building seven and 460 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.519 people go, oh, of course, that's a controlled demolition. That's what 461 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:31.280 we do at the American Institute of Architects conventions. Before they kicked us out, 462 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:36.639 we had gone to five of these conventions and architects stop. We're the 463 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.840 busiest booth there. They come around and they just look at this controlled demolition. 464 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.119 We say, do you know when this happened? Because they say it's 465 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:47.199 a controlled demolition on the monitor in front of them, and we go they 466 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.000 go, no, I don't know when that happened. Well, that happened 467 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.400 on nine to eleven. Why that's not a twin tower. No it's not. 468 00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:59.320 This isn't the third tower. We tell them what happened, and then 469 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:05.239 they're open to looking at the towers and all of the incredible evidence that we 470 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:12.679 have there just like a geometry of fireworks, freely flying structural steel sections uh 471 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:19.599 laterally distributed trailing thick white smoke clouds on fire, which is the thermite, 472 00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:23.760 of course, and and can only be that it looks more like a volcanic 473 00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:28.599 eruption in the tongue and sea. In two thousand and nine, we showed 474 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.320 them that and compare the two. You can't tell the difference. Wow, 475 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:37.760 Wow, that's amazing. What about you know the shel Silverstein was und his 476 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:42.840 name. They had buildings have same Larry Silverstein. Okay, yeah, yeah, 477 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:47.000 let me say because that's that's really important. A year later, Larry 478 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:52.119 Silverstein's interviewed on America Rebuilds and he's talking about Building seven. He's asked about 479 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.960 it as well, there's been such terrible loss of life. I was talking 480 00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.239 to the fire commander. Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull, Yeah, 481 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:05.119 And so they gave the order to pull, and we watched the building 482 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:10.159 come down. That's the owner who built this building here, he says later, 483 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:14.679 Oh, I didn't mean pull the building. I meant to pull the 484 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:19.280 firefighters out of the building. Well, guess what they weren't in the building. 485 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.400 They were told not to fight the fire. They were told it was 486 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:28.039 going to come down because the structure was weakened. It could come down on 487 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.920 its own. So we're just going to wait. So hundreds of firefighters were 488 00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:37.360 nearby watching the building with these few small scattered fires that were in it, 489 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:44.440 and they're waiting for it to come down. And sure enough, after these 490 00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:51.079 mysterious construction workers walking away from Building seven hearing an explosion over their shoulder in 491 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.519 the late afternoon of nine to eleven, looking back at the building and then 492 00:40:54.599 --> 00:41:00.119 looking straight into the CNN camera and saying this here about buildings coming down, 493 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:07.599 A flame of debris coming down. It's going to blow up. Truly, 494 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:13.079 it's amazing. It's a few small scattered fires, it is, yeah, 495 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.400 and it's so what is the status of nine to eleven? I mean many 496 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:21.039 of us have looked at this, the evidence that you have given, it's 497 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:27.239 just astounding and it demands an answer, and and yet everybody seems to turn 498 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.840 a blind eye to it for the most part in official circles. What is 499 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.920 the status of any investigation? What is the hope of any investigation? With 500 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.719 us, they're all, notice all four hundred and thirty five members of Congress 501 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:45.559 or a five thirty five. We've given them her petition. Every third year 502 00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:50.039 or so, we go to Washington, DC. We give them the latest 503 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.679 DVD, the latest book, the latest efforts were making. We talked to 504 00:41:53.719 --> 00:42:01.400 their staffers. They're they're very interested. To the congress person, this is 505 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.559 this is really important, but nothing ever happens. So they're they're going to 506 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.880 be held accountable one way or another. The media, of course, won't 507 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.559 even talk to us. They won't. We we've we've given well, it's 508 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.440 not completely true. Haraldo Rivera had one of the family members, one of 509 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:24.519 the engineers on and he said, this looks it looks suspicious to me, 510 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.679 particularly Building seven. Now I know why there's thirteen hundred and fifty architects and 511 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:37.559 engineers demanding a new investigation. Well, there's thirty six hundred and now right 512 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:44.800 I'm separated from the organization Architects and Engineers for nine to eleven Truth, but 513 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:52.599 they continue focusing on getting the engineers going. I work on the public and 514 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.599 the media where where where I can get in. But the way we're going 515 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:02.039 to get a real investigation is by educating the public and getting a grand jury 516 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.840 investigation, which is why we've submitted this evidence in sixty exhibits to the US 517 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:13.480 Attorney for a special grand jury investigation. Now he's done nothing with it, 518 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.440 and so we've sued him and that's gone through the legal process, and now 519 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:21.519 we're going to be taking the evidence to a s federal judge to be given 520 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:25.440 directly to a special grand jury. And we're making a set of film nine 521 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.800 to eleven crime Scene to Courtroom, and that is a series of two dozen 522 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:39.639 episodes with myself and twenty four experts giving the evidence in a boardroom jury, 523 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:45.960 a grand jury setting with our stand in grand jurors. We present all the 524 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:52.440 evidence and Mick Harrison, the litigation director for the Lawyer's Committee for nine eleven 525 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:58.320 Inquiry, who's board I sit on, also we're partnering and making this film. 526 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.199 He's going to be educated eating the grand jury and the public about what 527 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:06.400 are the implications of each different type of evidence that we're going to be presenting, 528 00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:12.519 eyewitness testimony, forensic evidence, etc. And he'll give them their opportunities 529 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.679 to subpoena people who might say, subpoena for more information about this, what 530 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:21.920 are their duties their obligations. So it's an extraordinary film. We've filmed it 531 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.159 already in Washington, DC. We're raising funds for the completion of it in 532 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:30.960 post production and so people can actually get this film produced by becoming a co 533 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.880 producer and your name's on the credits with a five hundred dollar donation. So 534 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:42.880 all that can be done here at Richard Gage nine one dot org. So 535 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.719 we encourage you guys to help us. That's great. Yeah, and so 536 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:52.559 yeah Richard Gage nine one one dot org. And people can help to crowdfund 537 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.719 that and to complete it because you've already, as you said, you filmed 538 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.320 a great deal of it. I just need to get that together. That 539 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.320 would be very important to do, you know, Richard. I was I 540 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:06.320 was talking at Jay Warner Wallace a couple of weeks ago. He is a 541 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:12.599 cold case detective and they would go back and look at at murder scenes where 542 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:16.559 all they've got is the evidence and the people, the witnesses to the crime 543 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:21.159 or whatever, have long since died, the detectives have died, but they've 544 00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.639 got that stuff there. That's why what you're doing is so important. And 545 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:30.239 of course he eventually became a Christian and he applied those same types of investigation 546 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:36.320 to looking at the racity of the biblical account Christian account. But the key 547 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.679 is what we're looking at here is we've got over three thousand murders just in 548 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.519 New York. This is something that is not going to go away. And 549 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.159 just as we see with JFK situation, there's a lot of people who have 550 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.760 maybe not yet come forward. But you have collected so much information that ought 551 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.760 to be damning in and of itself, and this is something that may be 552 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.079 done by future generations, but the truth will will eventually be discovered, and 553 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:06.519 I think it'll happen when the people who have a vested interest in the lies 554 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.320 have been removed from the scene. I think that the most important thing to 555 00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:14.639 do. Certainly, we need to raise the awareness of people to ask for 556 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.119 an investigation. But by collecting this information, as you've done, and you 557 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.920 continue to do it is going to be a body of evidence that is eventually 558 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.440 going to show what the truth is about nine eleven. I believe. Yeah, 559 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.039 I do too, David, and that's why I'm still at it eighteen 560 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.360 years later. I got really angry when I heard about this in two thousand 561 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.440 and six, and it's been fueling me ever since that this justice for the 562 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.360 nine to eleven victims family members is my primary motivation. That was right, 563 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.559 Yeah, it's hard to get your head around the death of that many people. 564 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.239 And you know, we looked at the beginning. I came at this 565 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.079 from look at how they're using this right, how they're using this to destroy 566 00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.760 the constitution, and they've laid so many authoritarian foundations for our government by using 567 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.559 this event, and that and of itself is criminal by itself, and that's 568 00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.280 another angle of attack to this. But the deaths of these people. I 569 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.760 think this is going to continue to go on. I think people are going 570 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.519 to demand an answer to this stuff. And the evidence that you guys have 571 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.440 put together continues to expand, you know, people are still looking at this 572 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.639 and it is going to continue to expand because there is so much evidence there. 573 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.719 People can continue to investigate that, and the investigation is going to continue 574 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.400 till we get to the end of this again. You know, when you 575 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.880 look at these architects and engineers, and to me, another smoking gun about 576 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.599 this is just the fact that they haven't changed any firefighting procedures, haven't changed 577 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:43.760 any building codes based on this. They want us to believe that this is 578 00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.320 an ordinary fire that took down Building seven, but no building code changes. 579 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:51.639 Is that correct? Are you more of any There's no changes to the structural 580 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:58.480 codes at all. There's They've added some fireproofing, they added some stairs get 581 00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:02.480 people out faster, but nothing to keep a building from free falling due to 582 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:07.199 a few small, scattered buyers. So that's telling. It's extremely telling. 583 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:14.039 And the firefighting policies, they're still going into burning buildings without fear of them 584 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.760 coming down because they don't know about Building seven. It wasn't the big controversy 585 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.880 in architecture or in firefighting manuals. The NFPA doesn't even discuss it, and 586 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:30.599 yet is the third worst structural failure in modern history due to fires, and 587 00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.400 the National Fire Protection Association is ignoring it, which is why we went to 588 00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:40.400 their convention in Las Vegas this summer and before that Boston, Oh good last 589 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.960 year. Good. And we had a booth and we had firefighters there with 590 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:50.159 us. Eric Lawyer of Firefighters for nine eleven truth and I and others were 591 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.800 educating fire protection engineers. We had the monitor up. They come by, 592 00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:00.320 Did you know when this building came down? Oh? No, again, 593 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.800 the whole story. They're just blown away because we go into they say, 594 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:12.079 we go into skyscrapers routinely to put out fires, big fires, much bigger 595 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:19.360 than the few small fires they had in Building seven. Yeah, So their 596 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:24.519 policies have not changed because and I'm one of ninety thousand members of the American 597 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:32.079 Institute of Architects and we have not received one bulletin on this major disaster of 598 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:37.559 a collapse. It wasn't it. We just completely swept under the rug. 599 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.840 Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. I remember years ago I talked to Tony 600 00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.880 Rook of the UK and they were trying to get firefighters together. They're to 601 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.760 ask these same questions, you know, because they're using the same kind of 602 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:51.400 rules as we do, the same kind of guidelines for the building of that. 603 00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:53.840 Do you realize Building seven wasn't hit by plane that burned down ordinary fires, 604 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:58.800 supposedly quarre and why aren't we changing anything that we do? And so 605 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:06.320 this is this is a concern that beyond this country in terms of people looking 606 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:08.039 at these rules. Tell us what you're doing today in New York. I 607 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:15.440 know you're there for special event. Yep. It's an exciting day for those 608 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:21.519 of us who have the passion in our hearts to reach the public. I 609 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.880 know it's it's it's a it's a it's a it's a very sorrowful day too 610 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.639 because we lost so many. Yes, but this is the opportunity for us 611 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:38.039 to tell them the truth about those who died and how and why. Some 612 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:43.079 people get into the why. I don't as much. But we'll be at 613 00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:50.440 ground zero on VZ Street near Building seven all day and we brought hundreds and 614 00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:54.239 hundreds of brochures to hand out. We're going to be telling people that right 615 00:50:54.239 --> 00:51:00.320 there stood building seven, forty seven stories. It came down to it wasn't 616 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:05.280 hit by a plane. Did you hear about it? I heard something about 617 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.679 it is fairly typical. But then you can give them the facts and they 618 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.840 just wake up and we give them the brochure, which has a complete outline 619 00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.079 of all the information we discussed, which is by the way, available, 620 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:22.480 are for sure our DVDs. The documentary nine to eleven Explosive Evidence Experts speak 621 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:28.559 Out is on our website, Richard Gage nine dot org. But we tell 622 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.280 them all of this, and so there's some people who can't hear it, 623 00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:38.360 David, they'll get angry and and we give them love. We were there 624 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:43.239 too. I was I wanted to go into Afghanistan and Iraq and get those 625 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.239 you know what's that did this to us. I was a flag waving Reagan 626 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:51.679 Republican. When I heard David Ray Griffin on the radio in the San Francisco 627 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:59.480 Bay area March twenty ninth, my world turned upside down as I was hearing 628 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:04.239 this even and went to see him speak the next night. They were sold 629 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.360 out, six hundred people packed in the Grand Lake Theater. I had to 630 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:12.719 go home and watch on livestream. I had to prove this, so I 631 00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.480 did made a power point. I took it to the firm I worked for, 632 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.119 fourteen architects because they had thought I was kind of nuts. But over 633 00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.000 the next couple of months, I assembled this research. I took it to 634 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:28.079 them. I bought him pizza. I made him come in and drive him 635 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:32.000 forty five minutes of visual technical evidence. All of them agreed, Oh my 636 00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:37.559 god, you're right. These are controlled demolitions. We've got to have a 637 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:43.039 real investigation. Now there's thirty six hundred architects and engineers demanding just that. 638 00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:50.239 Well, thank you so much for caring about the truth, and you're consistent 639 00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.039 holding to it and pushing for you know, that's the key thing. If 640 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:57.800 you've got the truth, it's the other people who run away from this. 641 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.519 The other people don't want to debate it, the other people who don't want 642 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.280 to show what is there. You've got the truth, you're not You're not 643 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:07.960 worried about debating it. Now the documentary you mentioned explosive evidence that's at Richard 644 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.280 Gage and nine eleven dot org. That is not the one that is currently 645 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.719 under crowdsourcing. There's already one that's finished. Is that right? Well, 646 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.880 yeah, that one combined experts and that was made ten years ago. Nine 647 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:25.599 to eleven explosive evidence. Now we're just were it's we're propelling it into into 648 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:32.199 a new dimension. Nine to eleven crime scene to courtroom. That's the one 649 00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:36.960 that we're finishing up. We've already filmed. It. It's been filmed in 650 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.920 Washington, DC, at the Supreme Court and at our venue for a special 651 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:47.519 grand jury investigation. It's it's it's extraordinary. It's the most comprehensive body of 652 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:52.599 evidence we've ever compiled. Also, which is why it's twenty four episodes, 653 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.719 but they're ranged from ten minutes to twenty minutes each. That's great. Well, 654 00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.400 you know that's the key thing. And and again I just want to 655 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.360 thank you because I know that it's difficult to swim against the tide. And 656 00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.760 you know, when you tell somebody something that they don't want to believe, 657 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.639 they've already heard something else. And the government is pushing in all the authorities 658 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.559 and the experts are pushing in a different direction. And this is settled. 659 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.039 You know. We hear that we've got subtled science about climate, we've got 660 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:21.159 subtled science about the pandemic and all the rest of stuff. And when the 661 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:22.679 experts and the government are all telling you this and you come out with it, 662 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.079 you know, then they've got these pejority of terms that they throw at 663 00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.639 your conspiracy theorists and all the rest of the stuff. You're a lunatic, 664 00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:34.480 Your tinfoil hat and the rest of this. So kudos to you for standing 665 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.280 by what you know to be true for so many years and for pushing this. 666 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:42.480 It is making a difference. The truth is eventually going to be understood 667 00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.440 by the wide majority of people, and the people who are going to be 668 00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:54.159 tart and feathered by future generations in retrospect are the people who lied to us 669 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:58.639 and who continue to cover this stuff up. So thank you so much for 670 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.440 doing that again, Richard Gage nine eleven dot Org. And I even had 671 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.199 someone Richard contact me who had already set up the interview and he said, 672 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.599 I hope you cover nine to eleven on Monday. I'm in New York, 673 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:15.960 so that listener, you can find Richard there at the site of building seven 674 00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.039 and he'll be there all day, right, is that correct? Yep, 675 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.079 Look, you're beat good. Thank you so much for what you're doing at 676 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:37.000 tireless pursuit of truth. We'll be right back, folks, stay with us, 677 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.840 the common man. They created common Core a dumbed down our children. 678 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:49.199 They created common Past to track and control us, their Commons project to make 679 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:55.039 sure the commoners own nothing, and the communist future. They see the common 680 00:55:55.079 --> 00:56:01.800 man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. Each of us has worth and dignity created 681 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:07.639 in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That 682 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:13.079 is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, 683 00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:19.199 deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us, while they hide 684 00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:23.880 everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want 685 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:30.239 to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at the David Knightshow 686 00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:38.440 dot com. 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