Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Challenge the podcast all about the Challenge
as always. I am Brian, finally back after many months away, months,
years ages three weeks. It could to be back everybody, big uncle
sweetee hey, everybody. Soon departing for Australia, which is why she will
not be around for the next like two weeks. It sounds like, uh,
I might be really tired on the following week, Carl and san diego
all the sex. That's why, Well and I will have just gotten back
from twenty four hours traveling. So that's miserable sitting at work. Zacky bananas,
Carlin, what is what is that flight? It's not direct from from
Minneapolis. It's my flight. On the way out there is Minneapolis to Denver
to LA to Auckland to Adelaide. Oh fuck that sucks. Yeah, on
the way back it's Adelaide to Auckland to Houston to Minneapolis. Jesus, fuck
that off. That all sounds miserable. So it's like twenty seven hours each
way, awful sleeping in airports and shit, gross did you uh did you
watch Lost? Carolin? No, be careful with those Australian flights, eh
if I get lost in Australia. I'm not all that upset. If it's
flight eight fifteen, don't don't go. Don't get on that plane Astralia.
It's not Australia. You gotta worry about it on to the middle of the
ocean. Did it all end up like being a dream or something? No
commenting on you don't know nothing about. They had like a polar bear show
up on the desert. It's all explained. Everything that happened on the island
really happened. Stop with that fucking bullshit. Yeah, Carlin, how dare
you? Challengepot dot com joined the Facebook group leave comments about how Carlin doesn't
know about Lost in the Facebook. I have never had any want to watch
it, even when my best friend in high school wanted to be who was
the evangelista? Yeah, Kate what I can't remember her actual name? That's
the one ever name tattooed over my heart. Well, I guess I know
you know about this tattoo. I guess we know now that in the off
season we're doing Lost. We should yep. Now that way, we really
will never stop podcasting. It will be every week, and for Lost it
could actually be like two or three times a week, because didn't that that
show go on for like thirty seasons? I think six six six trash talking
about Lost? Talking about it? You could be more positive about it though,
That's all. I don't talk shit on vander Pump Rules, even though
I should. I talked trash on vander Pump Rules. What are you talking
about? It is an absolutely trash reality TV show. Well, I love
it. Loss is the pinnacle of television. It's the best TV show ever
made. Don't be talking ship on award winning center of pop culture TV show
because Vans is award winning in the center of pop television. It is not.
It is straight up garbage. Uh No, they had, They had
one of the one of the cast members made it into Variety's Top forty,
so did Tory. It's not that big of a deal. Does vander prop
Rules have a whole episode about dude's tattoos on his arm? Because Loss does?
Yeah, there are actually multiple episodes that are about dudes with tattoos on
their arms. One of them, in fact, just when the guy gets
gets his ex girlfriend's name tattooed on the on his arm. Also on the
show, what was the whole episode about the specific tattoos. Yes, I
called bullshit on that. I'm an entire episode going. Actually, they spent
multiple episodes talking back and forth about these fucking tattoos and about how he needed
to hide them on a date, and about how he was going to show
them, and about how her mom was really upset his that he got the
tattoo on his arm. Yeah, yeah, but she ain't got no Nicki
and Polo. So fucking Nicki and po Yeah what that means? So I
did he get very first episode? Shut her mouth? They were buried alive
with diamonds. Everybody's listening to these people still talking about lots. Everybody listened
to this knows who nick and paoloar for sure exactly. They're thinking, what
the fuck is wrong with Carlin? The Carlin? Was that already his x
when he got the tattoo? Or were they dating? Oh yeah, this
has been his ex for like a year. All right, all right,
shut it down, no more. But they were dating when he got the
tattooed, No, no extra. He was trying to get her back.
Now, I can't let this go. Why did he get an ex's name
tattooed? Because he was he was trying to get her back. It just
got her name. They hadn't been dating for almost a year, so he
got her name tattooed on his arm. She told him, no, I
don't want to get back together, and he started sleeping with a bunch of
other women with a with an extra friend's name on his that he just got
tattooed. I wish I was good looking enough to pull that ship off.
Was even. No, don't don't wish that, because he's an absolute fucking
moron. All right? Is that? It just boot Carlin. She can't
keep this show together. I leave for a few weeks. Carlin just takes
it over with random You guys brought up lost. This was not my fault
a TV show. We're doing a podcast about the Challenge. I don't think
any of us get to talk about good TV. That's true. Look at
that Wolf. He's got it, Wolf, he's got it right here.
Okay, I got no banner pump bullshit on this show. No, I
can just go on the street it. I only have seasons one, two,
and four, though, so it's weird. Oh yeah, that is
weird. You're missing a few Oh well, hey, Carling, what happened
on the Challenge we oh, are we talking about the show that we Let's
just get to the elimination. Up to the elimination. That's the only thing
that matters. Tim. You get no say in this because you've been gone
for a few weeks and everybody knows that long podcast. Better see what kind
of energy we have with Tim's here. This is better, is better,
worse, this is better. We've been very low energy since you've been gone.
Oh good, Now we're all yelling at each other. I'm staying out
of it, man, I don't care what you guys yelling at. You're
staying out of it. I'm not talking ship. I'm just I'm I'm defending
Lost. That's all best TV show of all time? All right? Uh
so we start off Big Tea back in the house, Big Tea, Big
Swaggy Tea, Big the Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, Crawdaddy Tea back in
the house. I forgot. I find it kind of funny when they walked,
When Big t walked back in the house, I typed that up and
was like, oh but really, Big Tea back in the house. Double
one Tundra this week. Yeah, yeah, nobody, nobody gave a shit
that they were coming back except for Melissa and big T. Right, they
were excited for each other. They were super excited when they walked into the
house, and no one really crickets from everybody else, they were not.
They did not give a shit about that ten grand nothing, didn't care.
No. I have a feeling that quite a few of them were hoping that
she just went home, even though it meant losing ten grand. Yeah.
Well, big T was hoping that winning would buy her some like cachet with
the rest of the team something, because she kept kept that money in the
price pool. But I don't think that matters. I don't think ten grand
versus the four hundred or whatever is in there. I don't think people give
a shit about that. Cashe is not on the season, Carlin, wrong
season. Huh, Cashe is not on the season. It's Cashe a person.
Yes, Cashia is on USA one. Wait, that was an actual
person's name. Yes, like a black lady with a shaved head. Right.
I think I thought she was Native Maybe she was like she looked like
I remember the name. I did not know that that was someone's actual name.
She was from a dating show and the guy was there too, and
they kept having like Sinco or some shit like that. Yeah, yeah,
this is to who I thought it was her name. It was something else,
wasn't it. I don't know. I google cache. She popped right
up. Oh yeah, Carlin, Jesus whatever. Why don't you know everything
about every season? Haven't you heard us talk about Cachet several times? Don't
you just listen to us on repeat constantly? Yeah, that was what I
came out the other Yeah, you just set up like a streaming site like
you had for Atomic Cast for our old seasons. Just go yeah, just
random episodes. Yeah, Peacock does that now with some of their big TV
shows. Just take a random episode. Well yeah they have. They have
channels on Peacock that you can just put on in the background and it just
consistently plays through like Housewives or Oh Kardashians, the Office, kind of like
Pluto. Yeah. So and then we it's a it's a real quick in
the house bits. We've got uh Callum. It counts over to Callum and
he's introducing all the couples in the house. Talks about Horacio and Maurice,
and then about James and Mariah, and then about him and Michelle, and
I'm kind of upset that we still haven't seen the I thought we were going
to see a big blow up between the two of them because his lady black
home got announced over to Michelle and Callum. Yeah. Michelle tweeted that she
didn't know that he had a girlfriend back home until she was watching these episodes
on TV. Oh sorry, Zach, I stole your social media thunder with
that one. That's fine. I just about to bring that up as well
when she said that. Yeah, so you know, yeah, that's why
we didn't see fireworks in this show. I'm guessing that guy seems like a
huge piece of shit, by the way. Yeah, but it seems like
there was one in the coming scene. Yeah, that's what I was gonna
say. And I'm wondering if it's I've never edited, maybe one cleverly edited.
I'm also wondering if we're going to see a return of Michelle down.
I hope so, and it's about something else, just because her her sanity
in the house is gone. Spoilers Harassio. There's a cut to him saying
that he's taking his relationship with Anarese at a glacial pace. He says something
about how it's because of the game, but it sounds like it might also
just be because Hirassio takes everything into a glacial pace. I think this is
just him. Yes, he's a like and I like Carassio. This is
gonna sound negative, but I like Krassio. But he should not be He's
boring as shit. He should not be the star of this season. Like,
he is a boring person. He's a B level character that sort of
is like, look at Banana's being a piece of ship, but there's ross.
He's a good dude. Yeah, he was great. He was great
last season. He was on because he was sort of a supporting character.
He's not he's too boring to be a main guy. Ye, and we've
been we saw him. We saw him say this, uh this episode the
last season, like he just let Levia run everything and he just you know,
did whatever she said. Yeah, we see him do that in this
episode too. Yeah, I mean he's still doing that. And then we've
got Corey talking with Melissa saying it sounds like everyone in the house is still
very against him because of him calling out Assif. That cuts to Emmanuel and
Callum about how boring Horasi is. Yeah, this episode I kind of turned
on Corey a little bit. Everybody like everybody did. I didn't like Corey
from the beginning. Yeah, he just yeah, all these two the past
time you've been gone. Tim in the last few episodes terrible. There's something
about him that I just don't trust it. I didn't not from the very
beginning that I trust or like that guy. There's just something about him.
I kind of want him to just like take his power as the is the
villain and really lean into it. But we'll see if that ever happens.
So yeah, it's a oh I have a note on here, especially for
Tim. So we see we have a cut to Calum and Emmanuel talking about
the game and about how what they want to do when they win, and
you know how they're playing for their families, And my note is talk about
their families. Will Tim care? No, I don't unless it's their kids.
I'm always a big fan of dad's talk about their kids. Other than
that, I don't give a ship. All these people saying like, oh,
I want to give money to my parents, but it's so stupid want
that to help his mom retire. She used to work five jobs. I
did like how he kept saying I want to retire my mom because it sounded
like he was got a killer or something. Take care of you said it
several times, I'm going to retire my mom, and it's like, whoa,
dude, that's not how you say that here means coming off very weird.
I didn't even catch that. Yeah, that's that is pretty good.
Yeah. We have multiple montages already and now we are onto the challenge.
The challenge is called Working the Angles the game, Tim, do you want
to introduce the game? Oh? Yeah, So there's these big two pyramids
they're dangling above water. You start off on one. At least one person
has to swing over to the other one and solve a puzzle key while the
other person yells colors at you. Basically, we've seen variations of this thing
before. Yeah, heights above water. Six different teams, five teams of
three, one team of four. I thought the team of four was going
to have an advantage. Yeah, I did, stood there, ridiculous.
Yeah, yes, they have to solve the puzzle and the fastest fastest team
wins. We've got a few. I was expecting at least one person to
fall from the rope swing almost. Olivia came close, but she pulled it
out. Yeah she did. I was impressed by that. I was too.
It's hard to recover when you're like that. She was holding on by
like a toe. Ye, she managed to get herself back up. It's
crazy. Yeah. Jay goes across the answer key like a fucking spider monkey.
That was impressive. Yeah, it was. Yeah. We've got James
up there having some PTSD because the last time he was on Heights above Water
was in his first season of the Challenge and he smacked his face and under
the water. Those are all the brilliant clips of him with just full black
eyes, big giant puffy face. Did anyone see that and be like,
Oh, him and Olivia would be cute together. We've seen some people.
I was thinking of Katie when Katie fell in ruins. Yeah, and got
a similar similar look, but in all honest and I don't know, maybe
this is just mean, but he kind of still looks like his face is
puppy puffy. I think that's the roids. That is totally Yeah. Uh,
he's got the roided outlook for sure. He would fit in real well
with all the guys from like fifteen years ago. Yeah, so we've got
that the team of four which Mariah is on and she's supposed to swing to
the other side and chickens the fuck out and just stands there. Yeah.
I would be more forgiving of this if she didn't jump off the thing a
minute later when they completed the possum like it was no big deal. Yeah,
it's like you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna end up in the water,
like, at least try this, but no, and if you're going to
stay on that side, then at least try to help solve the puzzle.
Like I put in my notes, I thought it was really interesting that Colleen
was reading the numbers backwards or not, maybe not backwards, but she was
naming the colors from right to left, which is like the total opposite of
what every single human would do, I think. And she seems some languages
they do Arabic ones I guess, yeah, but still, it was sort
of like, if you're going right to left, you gotta you gotta give
me a heads up on that. I'm gonna assume left to right. But
she seemed like annoyed that they didn't get it, which is like I wouldn't
have gotten that either. That was weird. Sorry and sell your girlfriend there
is Zachi. That's all right, um, Colleen, Yeah yeah, don't
you have a crush on Colleen zach Her Olivia, you know all the cube
blonds. If she's listening, Yeah, we've got uh big t Hoirasio and
Kylon end up winning. They flew through that thing. They did a really
great job. Did any of you guys enjoy this challenge because I found also
I found all the competitions in this episode extremely boring to watch. Yeah,
you're probably really fun to do again, boring to watch, especially if there's
like no real drama or anything. Bern I was putting the stuff on the
wrong sections. I was like, ooh, is this gonna They corrected that
after like three of them, and she's like, oh, okay, just
fixed it and that was nothing. Yeah, that was the most action we
got the entire episode. I was really hoping that people would fall Like I
wish it was just like a little bit wider or something, so people would
fall off or whatnot, because that always makes it fun. Agreed. Yeah,
so they yet again because it's chaos, they have to nominate someone immediately.
They have nominate a guy. Uh. This is where Harassi was super
quiet, and there's lots of talking heads about how he is super quiet.
Yeah, and during the like deliberation or whatever, he just asked big T
who who she wanted, and then he asked Kyland who he wanted, and
then I don't recall him saying a name. He just sort of went along
with what they said. And I have one of James and James or Callum.
He said that a talking head, though he didn't say that too.
Then, No, he said that to them, Oh he did, I
guess I don't remember that he said he wanted to split them up, because
yeah, he said that we should split them up because it was a bunch
of talking heads about how he is he doesn't talk. And then it was
immediately followed with him saying to the two of them, we should split up
James and Callum okay, which I thought was a brilliant idea, Like they
definitely needed to if they want to to break up the guys on UK alliance,
those are the two to do it with. NA, we don't want
to do that, and he just dropped it. He just dropped it immediately.
Well, he's like, what can I do? I find it weird
that Kyland was willing to drop it immediately, Like I would have expected Kyland
to say, yeah, let's put one of them in, because to my
knowledge, he doesn't have any alliance with James Orcallum, but I think he
feels like since they are connected to American girls, both of them would be
a little bit more willing to help them out. Yeah, I guess that's
true. This American Alliance is the weakest fucking alliance of all times. It's
like they have no loyalty to each other at all, but they just still
call themselves an alliance. It's a bunch of them saying that they are loyal
and then saying that they think that the other people are snakes. Yeah,
it's very weird. Ultimately, they end up calling out a manual. Yeah,
and we get lots of talking heads about how that was a really dumb
move and that he has a much stronger alliance than people seem to realize.
So now it's interesting because Kylon did tweet about this and said that before the
challenge he went around and asked all the Americans like, would you be cool
of me throwing in a manual? And they were like, yeah, we're
all on board. Interesting, what a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, what's
up next, Carlin? You look lost lost in thought. No, sorry,
I was reading through the chat because we hadn't said anything in there it.
Jamie and ka Buff brought up a part of the reason why Mariah stood
there and didn't do anything was because she didn't want to bust her nose job.
Thirteen thousand dollars crazy? How much was your nose out, tim much
more than that, much more? Should get your money back? A man,
come on, sim sort of had a nose job, he had a
I did I did it costs? Like? Yeah, I think insurance.
I think insurance covered like three hundred grand of that operations those nuts. It
was crazy, dude. That was like, just stick a knife up there,
just do it. They braced me for They didn't actually end up having
to do this, but he said they might have to cut my nose all
the way around and then flop it to the side to get all this ship
out of my face. They didn't have to do that, but Jesus,
it was crazy, dude. It was a weird, like year out of
my life. Yeah. Yeah, and now I have a huge cavern in
my sinuses, so when I get a cold, I blow out so much
snot I could, like, it's like gallons. It's unbelievable. It's unreal.
Single ladies, Yeah, oh man, it's the most it's so attractive.
Jamie asked what kind of tumor was it? Oh, it was a
shit. What was they called it? Like? Uh, non inverted paploma.
I don't know what that means, but okay, but benine and relatively
common. Uh. Like it was like two golf balls basically, Jesus fit
that in your head. There's more room up there than you would think.
It's pretty. And then they had to put stints in my nose right to
like hold everything apart while it healed. And then like a week or two
later, I had to go back and get them removed. And do you
just have like two golf balls worth of space just chilling out up there?
Yeah? Just like yeah, just like a big, big void. But
when they pulled these stints out and like, no anesthesia, no nothing,
I'm just like wide awake. And he pulls them out and they were like,
I mean like seven inches long, and they like went straight back into
my It was the weirdest feeling. And then there was one that went all
the way up in my forehead. I could feel as he yanked it down.
I could feel it moving, moving out of my head. So weird.
Welcome to the medical podcast everyone. Yeah it was nuts. We've got
lost, We've got medical hand or pump all within your challenge podcasts. Yeah
you should put. I was gonna say, doctor Jack Shepherd, that's amazing.
That's right, final surgeon, doctor Jack Shepherd, Carlyn, come on
the main guy, man of science. You should have got like a small
like magic eight ball, just uh noted. I'll message my doctor about it.
A little clear window on your cheek. Check your outlook? Not so
good. Everything's written backwards so you can look in a mirror. Brilliant.
Well, if you need to design like that was ridiculous, weird meta shit
for people. I think that's my job. Yeah it should be. It's
got to pay more than my current job. We're not in the after show.
We should get back to the actual show. Yes, so we we
go back to the house real quick switch over to club night. Ummm.
Callum says that he doesn't trust Nourice, and Berna agrees with him. She
seems very excited about this because no one seems to be listening to her about
have you seen anything this? No, not at all. I mean it
seemed like out of nowhere for me. But I'm like, have I just
not been paying attention because the season sucks? But yeah, it seemed a
little out of nowhere for me too. I think it just was because this
episode was very Harassio heavy, and they were trying to edit it to show
us that Harassio is not making his own decisions. Nourice is making them for
him. That's the impression I got. At least he showed one clip from
like four episodes ago, we get Big teen Melissa trying to recruit Ed to
their alliance and his talking head saying, yeah, that's not gonna happen.
He was good. He was more diplomatic than I would expect it Ed to
be. Yeah, you know what I mean, he handled that pretty well.
You know Ed. I really liked Ed when he first showed up to
the Challenge like five or six seasons ago and was just there for like what
two or three episodes. Loved him then because he was just fun and he
was energetic and it was it was nice to see a new character. I'm
a little upset that he hasn't had more screen time this episode of this season,
because he still seems like a very fun, energetic person to have on
the show. Yeah, and he's also super smart. Yeah he doesn't look
or sound like it, but yeah he is when it comes down to,
yeah he is. Yeah. I do worry about Ed though, the same
as Horasio. I like him as a as like the b character over there,
like being weird and whatever. If he's all of a sudden promoted to
the face, I think I would get sick of him. Yeah. I
could see him being way too energetic for you. Yeah, opposite issues,
right, I hate them both for different reasons, said Case. Said.
The clip apparallel was from last episode. Well that's how much I remember last
episode. Well, if you just drop a yeahbit still yeah, but still
there you go, then we are. Oh, Harasio throws talks to a
manual and throws Kyland under the bus. Which I mean, now that we
know that Kyland went out and talked to a bunch of people in the house
about getting a manual in there, I kind of understand this a little bit
more, But at the time it felt kind of like a, Oh,
you're just throwout his name because you don't want to be the one that called
him. It was still it was a weak move no matter what. Yeah.
Yeah, And Kyland also did say on Twitter that part of the way
he talked Horatio and to go in for em Manuals, he said, like,
you can throw all the blame on me, like, just just say
that I forged you into this, gotcha. Still though, that doesn't it
doesn't make Carrossio look good to say that. It just makes him look weak
and malleable and kind of pathetic. Yep, I agree with that. We
got back to the house and we get a bunch of the US Alliance talking
and saying how they don't trust Corey and did I did I miss hear this?
Did they really say that he has football brain? Oh? I didn't
catch that. I didn't catch that either. I think they might have said
that because they said that and then they it was immediately followed like Olivia said
that at least what sounded like that, and then Raven said it, and
then they said, yeah, he was crying about absolutely nothing. And I
heard that. It was like, wait, are you are you saying that
he's got what is it ct CT? Like really, that's the brain injury
concussions cause it's that a bunch of like, who is it Aaron Hernandez all
of the football players that have gotten super violent in their old age, that
sort of thing, that they're all getting their brains donated to science because of
Iana Hernandas. I think he is only like mid twenties or late twenties.
Yeah, I mean none of all of the people who haven't die relatively young.
Hernandaz is he's a football player who killed somebody. That's what I was
gonna say. I thought he had killed some couple of people. Yeah,
yeah, it just it. It sounded like that's what they said. And
my immediate thought was like, wait, you're really throwing CTE out there is
like a oh this is I'm just gonna like, this is gonna be something
kind of funny and weird to say what And maybe I's heard them. Maybe
they didn't say that at all. It just it it caught me off guard.
I wouldn't have known what they were talking about if I heard that,
So it makes sense that it just by me. Did they call him flippy
floppy? Which on if that's what you heard, maybe oh maybe that's yeah,
okay, uh Swanni is saying that they said flippy floppy. Okay,
that makes more sense. I'm glad to hear that, because what did you
think of football head, football brain? Football brain? I've never heard that
term. Okay, yeah, neither did I, which is why I thought
it was really weird. Flippy flip floppy, Okay, is flip floppy?
That's true, he is flip floppy. Then it cuts to everybody's favorite part,
Michelle setting up a date for Callum Vomit could give it half a ship
about these people, especially when you know he's got a girlfriend at home.
Worse. Yeah, I do wonder what was MTV trying to show us here,
Like were they trying to endear this couple to us? Because this is
gross. I think they're trying to a part of me. Honestly, just
kind of felt like they were trying to build it up even more, like,
look, how much of a douche he is. But at the same
time, they don't mention that he's got a girlfriend back home. I don't
it is weird that they don't don't keep bringing it up. They should.
This should be like a recurring theme, he said. They said Michelle set
up this d episodes ago, but they just now showed it so interesting,
Okay, and some of the girls were talked on Twitter that apparently, like
you know, we can't see her say like, oh, he does so
much for me. Well, they didn't chose it, Like I guess.
He was making her breakfast in bed every single day they were there. Every
day he'd go out into the woods and like pick flowers for her. So
it seems like he was doing a lot of good stuff, just unfortunately he
had a girlfriend back home. Yeah. I mean, you can do all
the good stuff in the world, but when you're already cheating on the girlfriend
that you've had, Yeah, in a way, that's really that's worse.
Yeah, I think worse of him than if he was just cheating on his
girlfriend and not doing any of that, right, yep, I one agree,
Yeah, yeah, just vomit. She says, the cow checks all
her boxes, and then she talks about what she wants for some check.
I'm sure he's been checking that for weeks, all right. And then we've
got Corey talking about how he thinks he's on the chopping block. No ship,
uh deliberation, say my name, bitch, Oh, don't say my
name. That means very something, very different. So Emmanuel that's what Calin
and Michelle were doing, saying their names, bitch, say my name,
bitch. Kay in the chat room does bring up that Mariah was also cheating.
Have you guys discussed this Mariah banana? But we'll get there there,
all right, all right, hold it, hold it? Yeah, I
I have notes about that later. So deliberation callum will or not callum.
Emmanuel welcomes everyone to deliberation by saying thank you for coming around for a nice
round of buttle kissing. And I found that very funny too. That's that
slight language barrier. It's like butt hoole kissing means very different than us kissingers,
Like, yeah, he was so good because everybody just starts laughing.
And then Big T tries to sit there and say I'm so sorry that you're
down here, and he's like, no, you're not. Yeah, God,
this is this season. We have had so many deliberations where people come
into this who we know we're on the chopping block, and then they just
like not just foot in mouth, they like whole leg in their mouth and
make it even more obvious that they're gonna be the ones that they're chosen.
And Corey does that the moment that he gets down there, I feel like
this is worse than the last time. Oh god, yeah, yeah,
yeah, what was Corey thinking with his no, what was he doing?
He's the fucking worst, he really is. He should have just kept his
fucking mouth shut because now he's got everybody mad at him, and he he
felt like it just it was. It was so weird. Yeah, it
felt desperate and pathetic. And I know he was trying to show his alliance,
like see what I'm doing for you. You can't throw me in because
I'm working for you. Yeah, but it was it came off real bad
and real wrong, and he looks like an idiot. Yep, it's nobody
can trust him. Cool. Yeah, that's kind of someone in the deliberation
brings up like I can't remember who it was. I think it might have
been Colleen, I don't know. Like the words that you do not say
in the challenge, especially in a deliberation, are things like I was a
snake, I was being sneaky, I was fooling you like things like that.
Yeah, it just makes you look like it looks even worse. Well
even was it. Nourice points out like, okay, if you were like
undercover or whatever the fuck he said he was doing. Wouldn't you tell at
least one person in your alliance so they would back in. Yeah. The
moment that she said that, I was yep. Yeah, he's such an
idiot. I hate him. Please tell Michelle like, hey girl, I'm
just doing this to try and get intel. I will feed all the intel
that I get from them to you. Yeah. I feel like I feel
like Michelle and Jay were in on it. I think just no one else
in the alliance knew that he would feel like Michelle might have been in on
it, and she just didn't say anything. Wait a minute, you guys
are taking this seriously. I think he was just lying. He wasn't doing
that shit. No, he's been saying it for episodes that he's not on
their alliance, but not not to like not like a secret not in like
a secret agent way. He said this like two or three episodes when he
first started getting buddy buddy with Michelle or with if any to go back and
rewatch it. I don't recall that, but I feel so I feel like,
you know, to give them some I feel like we've seen throughout all
the episodes, Michelle and j came in here with like five different like sub
alliances within the Big So I feel like so I feel like Michelle and Jade
knew everything Corey was doing, just no one else in the Big Alliance knew
because they were just keeping that to themselves. Yeah, Michelle and j not
only came with a bunch of sub alliances, but they came in with a
bunch of sub alliances who all thought that they were their number ones, yes,
not realizing that Michelle and j would never choose them as their number one.
Yeah. Just let the dog out. Ooof let the dogs out.
Yes, It's like Corey just thought that, like I'm at the bottom of
the pyramid or the tone pole, Like if I do this, people are
gonna be like, oh, like I want to screw over my top people
now and bring Corey up. It's like, no, You're just You're still
gonna be at the bottom no matter what you say or do. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, And I think it. I think it made it because
I think the other Americans were like me, that they just didn't believe him,
that he's lying because he's desperate, and now he's even more at the
bottom, you know what I mean. And he kept he kept saying,
I'm doing this for my alliance, I'm doing this for my lines, And
I wanted one of Melissa big T to just be like, do it for
your alliances. You know what, your alliance is gonna vote you in every
single one of them. M hm, Like they don't care about you.
They're using you the way you used us. Yep. Yeah. And the
other part of it is like I don't really know what info he has gotten
from Big T and Melissa to pass along. They've been very transparent because theyre
It kind of felt like, yeah, it kind of felt like he just
laid this all out there to have it backfire in his face because they had
ship to say anyway, Yeah, okay, cool, you've been getting buddy
buddy with him, but haven't actually say anything. I just think it's even
shittier when he's like, no, I never cared about either of you.
Yeah, he did a whole lie and then cut to like Big Tea and
him sharing a moment. Didn't it say earlier that day, I must have
coming out when he came out, and I thought it was a coming out
party, but yeah, yeah, I mean he definitely he took it to
a personal place, not just a game place. And yeah, I think
that was his biggest misstep, right, and it was also sort of sorry,
go ahead, Deck, I was just gonna say, yeah, I
feel like we saw that little clip. I didn't think they really do that,
but yeah, it seems like he used you know, big tea coming
out in her sexuality like as a stepping stone in the game, which I
think is kind of shady. Yeah, and to me too, like what
is the strategy here? Because it is it's a men's elimination day, so
what is he trying to do? He didn't alternative, No, he didn't
throw out an alternate name. He tossed a couple of women under the bus.
But like, to what end? It's you can't nominate them, so
like, what are you doing? Did he expect his entire be like,
you know what, you're right? I think? Instead, Yeah, I
do think he thought that, which is an unbelievably bizarre thing to think.
Yeah, I think they he thought, oh, they'll be like he's on
our side, let's vote in one of the British men instead. Yeah,
but it came about he's got a very hyperdog in here. Now. Sorry,
Yeah, this was never gonna work. This was a stupid plan and
he looks like an idiot and everybody hates him and it's good, I think,
including the fans. By the way, I think a lot of the
people watching the show turned on Corey. Yeah, if they hadn't, if
if they did not like him to begin with, I think after this episode
he definitely lost happy. I hated them since episode one this season, Samesy,
we're all just catch it up to me. I hated him last time
he was on the show. He beat that. Yeah, I hated him
from that Christmas fucking show. He didn't twelve dates of Christmas, twelve dates
of Christmas. I didn't at once. Yeah, he definitely. I do
kind of hope that in future seasons and whatnot, if he ends up coming
back, which I'm sure he will, I hope he steps into his power
as a as a villain and really really goes there as a villain, because
I think he could be a fun villain to have. I don't think he
has the self awareness to do that. I don't think he made a good
will. I don't think it'd be. There's good villains that you like to
watch, you sort of root for, and you think they're funny and whatever.
He is not one of those. I just don't like the guy.
Yeah, And I think if you're gonna be a villain, you then you
have like the physical prowess of like a Beth where you can just like body
everyone to stick around, or you need to be like a Wes or Bananas
where he's like super socially and politically savving. I don't think he's either.
I think he'd come in be a villain and then like, great, you're
the first one out. Zach just said that Banana's is a villain. He's
on house civillains. You can't deny that now true. I just didn't think
that we'd ever get Zach saying it out loud. Yeah, I guess those
heroes of history were villains. Yeah, we'll be the wrestling fan. He
knows that some of the most beloved people are the villains. No, I
guess, I guess you're right. Yeah, he's gonna end up playing in
the middle ground. He's gonna end up playing the middle ground and being a
villain, thinking that he's the hero and never actually be able to be either.
I think we'll never see him again. I think him at least once
I think he'll want to keep coming back and production bring him back because he's
gonna be drama. Yeah, he's definitely gonna be drama. He does bring
the drama. Yeah. Ultimately he ends up getting photed in which you guys
may have said when I was letting the dog back in m H and US
and he chokes up about it. No, Jesu, this guy, this
guy can't be a villain. He's too sensitive. Well, Josh, Josh
is sensitive. Josh is the new American here. By the way, you
missed it him. I'm now a Josh stand. Oh gross, come on,
you met him in person and came back saying that Josh is the best
human being on earth. I bet he's a likable dude. I bet he's
a nice, likable guy in real life, and Wolfing Carlin laughed at me.
I said this, But I'm I mean, like I've met seventy plus
challengers, he is by far the most physically intimidating person I've stood next to
you from the show. Physically intimidating, Zach, that is because you were
five foot nothing. Okay, so I've stood next to Jordan and Durell.
I'm telling you, if I was walking to a dark alley. I'd much
rather have Drell attacking it than Josh. Is it just because he's a big
He's like what six three or six? Yeah, he just he's like towering
over me. He's bulked up. He just looks like he could just like
pick me up over his head and like snap me in half if you wanted.
You sid next to Zach too, though I have, But I feel
like they built up Zach on TV so much that you like expect all the
stuff that you made. You're like, oh, you're a lot smaller than
I expected, but Josh is bigger than you expected. I feel like,
yeah, I feel like Josh is like way bigger than I expected him to
be. Okay, what about Kyle. He's a huge dude, That's right,
Kyle a dude. He's tall, but I mean he's like lanky.
He's not like, you know, he doesn't look like you weren't physically intimidated
by Johnny Bananas when you stand next to him. No, because Bananas would
never fight me. He would, he would bring me along with him.
It's because you've seen his porn video and all right, anyway, who goes
who goes home? All right, we were in the elimination. They head
down there and they bring in the champ to come back and beat them all,
and it's Devin. Crowd goes wild. He's fucking buttons. So I
was trying to hit a drum roll and this thing's not even playing all right,
before we get into Devin, I can stimulate it. Worry so,
Tim, you weren't here two weeks ago. God damn it, you weren't
here two weeks ago when we got the first champion. Yeah, what was
your take on Jordan coming back? How'd you feel about it all that?
I thought it was great. I love Jordan, he is I think he
cemented himself as my number one favorite challenger of all time with that one.
I just really like Jordan. He just has a presence on screen that I
really like, and he's such a badass and he you know, I don't
know. I just really liked it. And then I watched his little recap
of like how it actually went down, because I guess what we saw wasn't
what happened. I like that too. There's just something he's like a captivating
dude, right like when he talks you. Yeah, he's such an ass
on this show and he God, it just makes it so much better.
Yeah, he sells it well, he backs it up. He's talks shit,
but he always performs, and it's he's a pleasure to see on Every
time I see the guy, I'm like, oh, thank god, it's
Jordan. All right, we got Jordan. I was thinking of you when
when we were watching those episodes, because especially when Jordan showed up it to
me, it was the immediate like this is the this is the injection of
entertainment and like life that we needed in this show. It really did show
how much we needed the vets to be there. Yep. And I think
MTV knows that too, because this elimination was like thirty minutes. It was
like a third of the whole episode. Yeah, and if for a lackluster,
bullshit, shitty looking elimination by the way, Yeah, but we got
a lot of We got a lot of talking heads with Devon and yeah cuts
to him, which was nice. Devon's great too. Devin is funny and
he talks shit, which I like. Yep. I don't know if it's
always deserved that he talks shit. He doesn't always back it up, but
no, it doesn't always back it up, but he's always pretty funny about
it, which yeah cocky, and I just think it's great. Josh,
I gonna say times nine, and when he fucks it up, he's just
like, yeah, well he doesn't take it seriously. Yeah. Half the
time when he fucks it up, he's like, well that didn't go right,
and he just calls himself out on it. It's I really liked Evin,
but when Jordan came on, it was like whole body chills, even
though I knew he was gonna be there. Kaz was a super letdown last
week, and I feel like I feel like he followed and Kas's footsteps.
I thought he was a major letdown this week. Oh bullshit, what was
What was the letdown? I think it's just if you're bringing in people's mercenaries,
you know you need like the car Marias, you need the ct Jordans,
like someone that walks out and you're like crapping your pants having to go
against them. If I was down there like it's Corey for elimination and I
saw him walk out, I'm like, oh, I got this, Like
this is even easier than going against a manual, like give me him over
at Manuel for a puzzle, for a puzzle against Devon, absolutely not.
I would miss it there going oh shit, yeah, I might be fucked.
I would too. I mean he won, Zach and I think didn't
he say his record was seven and two? Yeah, so he comes out
he is seven challenges, three finals, one championship. I thought when he
said seven and two, I thought he meant eliminations seven wins too. Might
he might be he might be seven and two with eliminations. I don't know.
Yeah, to run through this real quick. The last time he Emmanuel
was on the show, he competed against him and Devon won and sent him
home. We get a cut from Michelle sing that apparently they're best friends and
talk like every day, which I found very strange. I thought I was
surprised by that too. Yeah, it's interesting. And then we get the
draw and Devon pulls the third option that we haven't seen yet, option three.
Yeah. I was excited about this that I think he might be in
the minority in this episode. I actually really liked this one. I didn't
necessarily like the elimination, but they I thought they did a good job of
some of the build up. I didn't like the elimination. I still don't.
I don't think they should have had Devon. I mean they're going to
have He's the current he's the current reigning champ of the MTV show. Yeah,
I'm just saying you guys to find him intimidating. But like tim or
Wolfe, if you were in elimination, you had your choice of going against
him, ct or Jordan, you're telling me that you're like most terrified of
Devon. It depends on what the elimination is. If it's math in a
puzzle, then yeah, I'll be shitting my pants. Yeah. Well,
and also, Zach, it's not about being most intimidated because that really only
one person's going to win that. It's just like generally this person can generally
beat me in most things. I would say Devin could beat me in like
almost anything. And he's shown on the show he's got decent endurance. He
beat Wes and like in speed and endurance thing. He's beat a bunch of
people on brain game stuff. The challenge is the challenge has puzzles a lot
of puzzles. We've had puzzle eliminations. I I I don't mind them bringing
a mercenary then having the thing catered to what they're good at, like a
puzzle. No, I think it's brilliant that they're doing that. Yeah.
Yeah, give CT a headbanger, give Devin a puzzle like that's that's fine.
You still have to be good at those things to win the challenge.
I mean CT could also have a puzzle. Yeah, you could do good
at a puzzle. Yeah. I mean a lot of these guys are good
at everything. Devin be a little less physical, but so what he still
is. I guess I figure if you put physical or a puzzle, you
put those three men in there. I think Jordan and CD combined for like
eighty out of one hundred wins, made Devon wins twenty times. That's probably
like, it's probably true, but it's not them against each other, it's
them against every other challenger. Yeah. It just goes to show that I
think the difference in level between them as competitors. If those three are going
head to head over and over, Devin is like the one that has to
squeak out a win, where those two will just dominate. Yeah. I
mean, if you're putting the three of them in the same ring together,
Yeah, Jordan wins like eighty percent of the time, Cet wins fifteen percent
of it and Devin wins five. So I'm just saying so instead of it,
instead of Devn, I'd much either seen like a Derek or a land
In or you know someone like that. That. Yeah, but we're walking
in land In. We're probably never going to get a Derek again, like
of the realistic challenges that we're gonna get. I really like seeing Devon.
I still think we could get that. No, we discussed this last week,
but you could get land In for like fly out for two days.
We are never going to see land In again. He is never going to
do this again. I think that's true too. I don't think I'll gonna
do it. I think you can get him to come out for forty eight
hours to do one elimination and go home. Not a chance. Well,
Plus, we have no idea what kind of physical shape Landon is in these
days. It's been like twelve years, maybe more than that, fifteen years
since we've seen him last time. He could be a mess, uh and
Derek. I would I would be more threatened of Devin than Derek almost for
sure. Derek's Derek's pitbull. He won't give up. But that's all he's
got. He's not dude, He's not good at puzzles. I think I
could beat Derek in a lot of physical competitions, to be honest with you,
and I'm sure I could do it in puzzles. I would not be
scared of Derek. You think he could take him a lot of physical competitions,
knowing what he did to Jos, You think you could outperform Joss against
Derek. Uh, he did not. He didn't do anything to Joss.
Joss just screwed up and forgot that he was playing a game. Yeah,
but he was. He was manhandling Derek, Yes he was. Joss also
just got he was man handling Derek, and Derek was able to deal with
the endurance. Yeah yeah, and just wore Joss out over time till he
made them mistake. He didn't wear a mouth though they both would have made
it one mistake. Yeah. I mean, you can't take a win away.
He beat Joss, like, you can't take that away from him.
But it was not. It wasn't like a great win. It was just
you know, you've got held you held onto a ring while he threw you
around and then he yeah, and then he'd slipped up for a second and
that was it. I like Devon, I like to see him on regular
seasons, but I just feel like anytime you do Mercenary and you have the
biggest, baddest, scariest people to come in and like be intimidating. Yeah,
Darrell coming in. Durrell has failed miserably the last like ten up the
ten seasons. He don't talk about like that coming up. Well, when
Derell comes out, I'll probably talk about how I'm disappointed in his appearance as
well. How could you be disappointed Devin won this? How could you be
disappointed he did what he was supposed to do. I think that Zach is
still holding on to the old Devon's Johnny Banna's rivalry and is just upset that
they're net friends. Oh you're upset that Devon beat Johnny Banas in that one
elimination. No, I just think if you rerun that season and simulates a
one hundred times, Devin and Toy win five. I think his win was
more of the you know, everything fell right, But I think ninety Johnny
Bananas quit the final grapes Sour Grape, Zach sour Grape person sour Grapes.
Johnny Bananas quit in the final, Johann Bananas because you know what if she
in Twitter and Anisa have won that season, Oh yeah, she would have,
but Johnny Bananas quit the final. Yeah, Devin beat Bananas in that
final, and Devin beat Bananas in an elimination, So Devin is better than
Bananas, all right, just say just say yeah, yeah, but still,
okay, it's a good point. So Devin pulls the third option.
We finally get to see what this is. I say, finally, when
there have only been this is the third of the things. It kind of
made me wonder whether all three of them were the third option. Just to
fuck with everybody up there, I will say, thank god, we know
now. Thank god. I was a little worried that we were never going
to get it. Me too, We're gonna speculate all season and never know.
Yeah. Well, Carlin and I called this out two weeks ago that
this was what it would be, and we were right. We did.
I'm I I've enjoyed seeing this. So for those who don't know, the
third option is Devon got to pick any man up there, excluding the two
who won the challenge. So everyone is on the chopping blocking. It's not
that everybody's on the chopping block excluding Kyland and Horassio. The guys are pissed.
They are not happy. James looks real scared. They yeah, none
of them are excited about this. You should have picked James, uh devon
running back book. Oh yeah, hard for sure. So Devin asks everybody
up there, like, who should I call out to see if he can
get anybody to throw someone under the bus. Uh. Really? The only
name that gets thrown out there is Corey. Michelle does kind of do like,
oh, don't pick him to callum and we're Riyah does it, oh,
and don't pick him and points at James and then says, oh,
wait, shit, I can't say that, and then says pick Corey.
Yeah. It was a wonder I was wondering if it was a I should
I shouldn't say that because of bananas, or I shouldn't say that because James
is on the other alliance, or because that's going to make him pick him?
Because I just pointed them out. Yeah, I just couldn't believe that
more people weren't saying stuff. Yeah, no one said anything. Just come
on, t yeah, big T called out Corey right away, and good
for Big T, and then nobody else was gonna say it was just like
crickets, and Corey was a cop out answer, like, so he he
wants to know who I should call out who has not already been called out,
because very obviously the guy who's down here in the sand is the one
that you guys put here, right But I wanted, I wanted Corey to
go home. I didn't. I didn't even get back back with him for
another week. So I wasn't that surprised that they didn't call out names,
because you know, we hear Devin like them talking about Devon that he likes
chaos. We always think he's a pot star. So the first thing that
I thought in my mind when Devin said that is, Okay, he's gonna
find out who everyone's like. I want to protect these people. Throw these
people in, and anyone that they're like throw them in. Devin's like they're
safe, anyone that they're like, please don't throw this person in. Devon's
like, okay, you guys are on the table now, I'm gonna like
mess you guys up and just ruin everyone's plans. Yeah, I mean,
I don't deny that. I agree with you there. I think he was
probably gonna do what he did anyway, just because he's he loves stirring the
pot. Well. Also, k says in the chat room, rumor is
Jessica, who got eliminated previously this season, is now hooking up with Devin.
Yes, told Devin to pick Callum because he was mean to her and
that's why he him picking Callum was random. Interesting. Okay, wait,
who is Jessica tattooed girl that went home? I think week one? Oh,
I was about to ask the same question. She's with Devon now,
yes, all right, we go for them. Well, she's the she's
the one who had all the tattoos. Yes, from Australia. Okay,
it's literally that. Just sorry I missed I I couldn't hear that one of
those days. It's the tattooed girl they got eliminated. Well, apparently I
miss tattoos. Tattoos. Her brain is already in austra No, I still
have a week alright, so it's not the Corey looks really happy about this
third option being pulled. H Emmanuel also looks really happy about this third option,
but getting pulled because apparently he and Devon have become friends since their elimination,
which I'm not surprised by. Devin calls everybody up there, l seven
weenies, has a an L on his forehead, and I just this is
the ship that I love, he says, the Corneus ship. But I
love it. It's great. I love Devin and I love even when he
called that Calum, he just did it really like, super nonchalantly, and
it took a few seconds for it. Even what, what did you just
say? Why did you pick Calum? It seems like everybody knows what they
want, so Calum came on down, let's do it. What? Oh,
I loved it? It was great? He yeah, I love it.
Michelle is fucking pissed. She is piss literal daggers come. Yeah,
she is heated. She should have said a name. Then she should have
said and said not him. She should have said an affirmative who she wanted.
Yeah, because if she and Devon are such good friends, then he
may have actually taken her suggestion if she had thrown an actual name out there.
Yeah. So the elimination is called totally mental. There are woolfey,
do you want to do this one. Sure, there's a bunch of crates.
You have to grab your crate, line them all up from one to
ten, open them up. There's a bunch of shit inside. Got to
count them, write the number on the lid, and then rearrange them in
numerical order. Yep. Yeah, so this is an elimination of dragging shit
around and counting stuff. What what are these producers thinking bringing in these vets
like the what we're supposed to be excited about and looking forward to, and
they're gonna watch us, We're gonna watch people count What is going on with
this show? Like you said, they want to customize these for the veterans,
and Devin doesn't have that many skills, so counting they could have.
They could have thrown so many different puzzles out there and Devin would have kicked
ass. This was a weird one to do, like they should have thrown
an actual puzzle. Yeah, this is not an actual puzzle. We've seen
puzzles be like tense and exciting to watch them solve them. This was not.
This is counting, literal counting of a bunch of shit. So this
was not exciting. And not only was it counting of a bunch of shit.
But they both had the same they both had boxes of the same A
number. Yeah, so I just yeah, you could. We saw them
multiple times. They talked about it in their talking heads. They are cheating
off each other at the entire game. Mm hmmm, yeah, it's weird.
Like I it makes me kind of now that we're talking about them tailoring
eliminations to the to the people. I wonder if CT is gonna get Not
So Fast. Oh that'd be great if he did. I fucking love Not
So Fast. And when CT plays that game, it is one of my
favorites to watch. Yeah, so I wonder. I mean, I feel
like this could be a great time to bring back the backpack challenge. Ooh,
he would backpack literally every single person up there, except for maybe James
and Corey. I was gonna say, James is a big daddy. But
wouldn't that be like great television for producers to show No, because it's just
everybody's gonna watch it and go, why are you doing this? It's never
gonna be as good as the Johnny Bananas backpack. This is just lame.
They should have brought back the light Bright challenge between Devin and Banana. Yeah,
yeah, that would have been a good one. That was because that
was strategy. That was a puzzle, but it was also really fun to
watch. I remember being very tense during the elimination. Very fun to watch,
yep. And it was also endurance. Yeah, and strategy. I
mean there was a lot of a lot to that one. It was a
fun one. Yeah. It's it's very weird to me that they bring back
someone who is so good at puzzles and they give him something where they're counting.
Yeah, Like there are multiple people who in this episode who were like,
I learned how to count kindergarten? Why is this a thing? Yeah,
And I agree with him. It was weird. Uh, then everybody's
fucking counting along with Callum. That would have drove you. Oh, I
would have been pissed. It was kind of like, shut up. I
thought that Callum might have had a leg up at the very beginning when Devon
pulls his first box off of his stack and drops it to the ground and
it just shatters pieces everywhere, and then later on we see Callum kick one
of those pieces to the other end of the arena. I didn't know if
Devon was going to catch that or not. Yeah, someone up there told
him that there was a piece over there. Yeah. I do wonder like
he could have legit hidden that thing some somehow buried in the scene, like
done something. Yeah, but he didn't. I would have kicked like four
of them as far out of the ring as possible. Yeah, I don't
know. I wouldn't even I wouldn't have even necessarily kicked him out of the
ring. I would have tried to kick him behind my box or like,
you know, pretend like I can't see it, maybe set the box on
top of it or something like that, like something where you're really hiding it.
Yeah, shove it up your ass. I mean, go for it.
I don't know that they're gonna allow that on TV, but go for
it. They can edit that out. They don't show us everything. Um.
Both people, both of them call for check Devin first, Callum almost
immediately afterwards, and both of them are wrong. We get a quick talking
head from Nourice saying that she wants Devon to win, which I found kind
of interesting. I'm gonna guess she's getting rid of someone else on the other
alliance, but it's also getting rid of ten thousand dollars. Uh. And
then they call for check again and Callum is wrong and Devon is not,
so Devin wins. Yep, well done, Devin boo. Michelle looks very
upset, but Callum gets to go home to his girlfriend, and then Devon
and his little speech. We get a talking head right after this, and
he says, you know, I'm Noster Damis, but I think Mariah is
banging this tall guy mm hmmm. And he wonders how the banana man is
going to feel about it. And I wonder if he turned around and immediately
got home and called up mister Johnny Bananas and said, Yo, this girl
that you're whatever with is got something new he did? You know? Mariah
basically confirmed it on Twitter that yes, Den Devin was the one that notified
Johnny Devin's a big chaos guy. If he didn't know, oh yeah,
I mean that's that's the other reason why I think he was perfect for this
forward to come onto this season as a mercenary because he does. He loves
the chaos. He loves to stir it up. Yep. Is this the
time we're going to talk about Mariah cheating on bananas? Yeah, that's the
end of the episode, all Right, how do we feel about Mariah and
Bananas? So she said earlier on in the season that they are not officially
anything. They have just been a whatever for the last six eight months,
situationship. I believe they call that in the forty plus dating world. I
believe, she says for the past years. Yeah. Yeah, So,
I mean, if it really is just a situationship, then I don't look
at it as her cheating on Bananas. If they did actually have an agreement
that they were something more than a situationship, then yeah, girl, you
kind of fucked up there. But being that it's against Johnny Bananas, he
has cheated on almost of your girlfriend. He's head with people in the Challenge
House, so it just feels like a little bit of his own medicine.
Yeah. My understanding is both of them are sort of yeah, we didn't
define the relationship and it's fine. Like even Bananas was not upset about this.
I mean, who gives a fuck. I mean, Zach, you
would know more than me. But I don't think I don't think even Banana's
cares. I don't think that either of the consider this cheating. I thought
i'd heard it a little bit different. I had heard that Johnny actually wanted
it to be a more, you know, stable, monogamous thing, and
she was the one that was presidant about it. I think she even mentioned
that in one of the early episodes, and then came mentioned the chat.
There's a big rumor going around that Bananas was originally supposed to be one of
the mercenaries this season, and once s Deevin notified him with Mariah, Bananz
is like, I don't want to see her, I don't want to see
him. I'm out. I well, let's read what Let's read what she
said, which was he backed out because he knew they would use it as
a story Yeah. I could see him backing up because they would use it
as a storyline. I don't think he's as altruistic as I don't want to.
I guess it's not really altru I don't think that he is. He's
the type to back out just because he doesn't want to see the other girl
or the the other guy. I don't know. I mean, I don't
feel like Bananas is the type of person that's gonna be like, wait,
this is gonna give me a storyline and TV time like no, I don't
want that. Yeah, I don't know what to think of that. You
think he's but you think he's the type of guy to back off because he
doesn't want to see the other guy. Like, I call your bluff,
Zach. Remember when he didn't want to be on screen talking to non Yes
get mad, so he specifically stood in the doorway where the camera wouldn't see
him. Yeah, that was such a weird part of that one episode.
Yeah, yes, that is they were just talking. They weren't even doing
anything. They were literally just talking. He's like, my girlfriend will get
mad at me tv M. Yeah. But Zach, I will say,
even even if it was Mariah that didn't want to commit more deeply, it
seems like they had in a like they had talked about it, they had
a conversation about it. Then they agreed that they are not labeling this relationship.
And maybe Bananas wanted more. Maybe his feelings are hurt. But I'm
not sure Muri did anything wrong. Maybe I don't know. I know before
Alison and our day that we went through a period of time where we were
a situationship, So like had she done something or had I done something?
Way been she didn't know, but we also both you know, discussed at
that time, like we wouldn't just go sleep with someone else without discussing with
the other person or something like, you know, it would be like it
that'd just be rude to one another. If you're discussing having to be with
someone else, that feels like that's more than a situationship. But you know
whatever, that's just me. Yeah, no, but I think that's right
though. I mean, if they if they had a conversation and Mariah said
like, no, we're not gonna be more than we are and Alison,
oh, no, for for Bananas and Mariah, if they really did if
it really was to stay situationship, if she had communicated with him that she
doesn't want more than that, like okay, cool. His feelings might be
hurt and it might suck for that reason, but she didn't do anything wrong.
That's where I'm at. Yeah, Bananas might be hurt, but she
didn't do any wrong. But it'll get played up that she's the horror of
Babylon. Oh, because she's a woman, and women who sleep with other
men on any men on this show are always played up as the horror.
But we can we can not do that right. Oh yeah, we can
guide that conversation to a healthier place than that. Yes, no, we
should definitely not do that. I'm just saying, and I think in the
show that's always what happens, because I will always go back to the season
when Corey won the Player of the Year award directly after they crucified Tory for
sleeping with someone. Which I never had a problem with Toy doing whatever she
wanted. The problem I had is she was like, she cheated on Corey
other Corey Corey, or was Derek Derek cheated on Derek with Jordan, and
so then I was like, oh, well, just fucking break up with
them. Yeah, I mean I agree with that, but I also like,
if you haven't actively talked to him for three months and then you come
home and immediately break up with him when you get there, Like, I
get that technically she was cheating on him. I don't know it felt.
Well, I'm saying, get on the phone. You're like, oh,
yeah, she definitely should have gotten on the phone and said, hey,
I'm done. I'm not saying wait three months. I'm saying, get on
the phone, be like this isn't working. Yeah, and then you just
do whatever. So someone did like tweet to Mariah saying, you know,
like you guys weren't officially shouldn't have you know, don't feel bad, you
did nothing wrong. Mariah's the official response that was, I never said I
was in the right. I said multiple times on camera. Although I'm not
in a relationship with him, it still is not okay and against my moral
and I'm not proud of it. I've admitted that so many times hurt his
feelings. Yeah, I don't think that I was against what we're saying.
Has Banana said anything on Twitter or anything? Has Has he said anything publicly?
I don't see anything today or yesterday. I know a couple of weeks
ago, I think he said something about the situation. Let's see Mike the
situation. Yeah, because only spent half a million dollars on cocaine and box
coat on Oh popped up on my feed recently. The miz did no MIC's
situation Jersey Jersey. I don't care about that neither do I just miss one
of the headlines that popped up. Yeah, because really Banana's input is the
only one that matters. We're speculating on stuff and you know, whatever it's
if Bananas isn't upset, neither of mine, Like, there's no reason to
be. She's a free woman. She can do whatever she wants. I
mean, even if Banana is upset, I'm still not upset. But I
don't care. He has he has done this to so many people before.
I feel absolutely nothing for him. And Kay in the chairm says Callum is
a whore, which we've talked about, that what he's doing is obviously clearly
wrong. So look, we can we can get, which I feel like
has been said on this podcast before. But Callum feels like the new bear.
He does seem sort of like a piece of shit kind of guy,
as someone who just got cheated on about a year ago. It sucks,
I can imagine. Just make sure you're clear with your intentions. Yeah,
I'm checking his sheet, I'm checking when asked Twitter, I'm not seeing him
have any comment about it. Kay wants me to rate this episode, yes,
zero, zero out of ten this whole season. This is the worst
fucking season, right, This season is terrible. I hate all the players.
I just hate it all. I want the vets. I want vets.
I need vets. But we got we got to push through it so
that we can get to all starts four and forty. I hope they pull
out some stops and forty make forty good. This is all this is.
This whole cast is B and C characters. I don't care about any of
them. Yeah, it is a bit of a bummer. Yeah anyway,
but hey, what you can do is you can go to challenge pod dot
com, join the Facebook group. You can let us know what you think
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get what they get our patreons. Well, for five bucks a month,
you get exclusive access to pre shows, after shows, years and years of
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movies and my dating life, lots of stupid. Oh yeah, we talk
about food a lot. Yeah, there was a there was a point in
time where it was it was a pretty consistent like every episode the well Zach
food people were eating. No this is before Zach oh, okay, Zach,
Zach, Me and Tim were talking once recently that uh, we should
we should take you out for sushi and make you eat sushi. And you
guys don't even eat sushi. So I eat sushi. I would eat it.
Why the fuck am I getting lumped into this? I eat sushi all
the goddamn time. How dare you sushi right fucking now on camera. I
don't eat sushi, but I would. I'm not like, whatever I eat,
I would eat it. That's fine. No, I just I need
you guys to come to Minneapolis and we'll go for sushi. Actually, we
all need to go to Denver and we'll go for sushi. Why wouldn't we
go to like a coastal town. I'm going to all these fucking places thousands
of miles away from water. Denver's got spectacular sushi. I'm just saying Denver
because I know all the sushi places in Denver. I guess we're going to
Japan. Here we go. Cool? Is Patreon paying for that one too?
Yeah? I just got a little save up for like seven years and
we'll do it. We also say your name, So thank you to Alvin,
Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Emily, Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie
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Yes, we do have you not been reading them on the show. No,
I have. We should only be one this week. Okay, cool
Zachi Bananas two point zero? You're ready for a Zach? I'm scared.
JD Lunar once has loved the show, been listening for years. It is
my go to challenge podcast, Zach. I'm a Johnny fan also, so
I totally get it. I'm in Ohio and we'll totally send cash. I
don't know what that means any hints on that one. We were talking about
something. What did we Oh? I know, but Johnny and my my
Girlsen lives like ten minutes from the Ohio border. Let's get together. Let's
hang out. Yeah, do it? JD Lunar He or she also wants
to know how to listen live so they can be involved in the chat.
You have to be part of the Facebook group, the Patreon or part of
the discord. Yeah, and listen to it for free. You don't have
to be or send us your email address and we'll notify you when it goes.
Oh jeez, I'm not going to do that. Well you can,
you can. You can do it through a riverside. Oh okay, you
can set a notification through oh nice. Okay, yeah, so do that
join the Facebook group. That's the free way. Patreon and Discord you both
have to pay money. I didn't mention that, but you do get access
to the Discord with that five dollars month Patreon thing. And I mean Wilfy
and Zach are on there, Carlin, where are you? I'm on there?
I just don't participate most Hey, we do have other socials that we
do not ever ever gets. So if there's a preferred social network, maybe
we should start posting links. I guess, I guess, but not Twitter.
I mean my preferred is Instagram, but I don't know. You can
manage the Instagram account done, I already have. I have. Carlin just
volunteered for Carlin just volunteered. You guys all heard it. Hey wants us
to join only fans who says I haven't already? Yeah, I subscribed as
Ax I mean Wolfes, I mean, I mean Fetish sixty. It's my
favorite. So this can be a surprise to everybody because this is not something
we normally do on Spotify. People can ask questions on each episode. How
do we get the questions? They're email to us? And we had one
last week and I completely forgot. Oh nice, so I to make sure
I remember this week. And this was posted on episode one of this season.
I said the first from Simone, the first daily was boring. It
was too similar to the first daily challenge of Invasions. So far, I
don't like the format of having to commete to win prize money. I wonder
if Simone has changed their thought process so far as the season's gone on.
Let us know. Yeah, that's kind of neat that they can interact from
there. I have a little, a fun little tidbit. When I was
home for Thanksgiving, I found out that one of my best friends brother in
laws is a huge fan of the challenge. Oh no, shit, yeah.
And I was talking to her her husband about this because I mentioned that
I have started doing the podcast with you guys and he was cracking up.
So yeah, my brother Travis is super into it. So hi Travis,
if you're there. Yep. But message like left their house and immediately shot
him a message on Instagram. I'm like, hey, dude, this may
not be up your alley, you may not care at all, but just
in case, we've got this really fun podcast that we do. If if
you're interested, Oh, he wasn't there. You didn't talk about it in
person. Yeah, yeah, he wasn't there in person, But it just
it It made me. It made me giggle because I was like, Oh,
I don't feel quite so alone in my friend group. People that actually
like the Challenge, people I'm friends with on Facebook, who like, I've
never met. It's just they probably in front of me from drunken zombie movie
stuff for whatever, was posting once about Oh my wife watches this fucking terrible
show called the Challenge, So I made sure to post a link in his
comments. But tell your wife to stop buy and say Hi, that doesn't
sound weird and creepy at all. Nope, So if hopefully his wife is
listening, Oh goodness, well, uh zech any social media stuff, nothing
major going on. We do have Melissa and Big t continuing their fight with
Corey. Uh. They were bashing him while the episode was airing, and
then quite cry tried to call them out, being like, you know,
like, oh, we've been good friends for like, you know, months
now, like after a show, like, why are you acting like this?
You're being so fake? And so Melissa and Big Tea both just posted
their like dms with him showing that they have been like mad at him the
entire time, and he was lying that they were friendly. He's so fucking
terrible at this. Something he's trying to like call someone out or like did
I ever do anything wrong to you or whatever, like it fucking blows up
in his face. Yeah. I on the challenge subreddit that people were linking
to those conversations and stuff. So I did read through them, and it
sure does seem like Corey is just like a piece of shit guy. Yeah,
and the receipts totally backed up what they said that they were trying to
reach out and make amends and Corey was ignoring them, and Corey picked and
Chow chose like these literally specific things to post. And Yeah, I think
Corey made a lot of enemies this episode, I believe on the cast and
the Yeah, he thought he was on an island the last few episodes.
This next episode is going to be rough for him. Yeah, I'm guessing
he's he's the house vote every episode until well, a woman's right, so
we got we got him at least two more weeks. Yeah, it looks
like we're doing Casey next week. Oh, I didn't watch the Coming Soon
what I did watch the coming scene. It looked like a dude was coming
out. No, it looked like Casey. I thought it was yeah.
Yeah, it seems like they would go, they would alternate. I would
think, yeah, so what I which is why I was surprised. It
looked like I thought it was fucking CT was coming out. I was definitely
not, what is wrong with you? They're building Casey? What the fuck
is Casey? Who is Casey? Oh? K C? Literally, I
was thinking Casey. Her name is c A s Y. It's k A
y cee, right, yeah, yeah, yeah Casey. I was thinking
Casey, Casey like the gas station, not Casey like gotcha, No,
k C like Nanni's fiance. Yeah, I'm gonna have to rewatch the coming
soon because that is not what I picked up from. It looked like a
dude to me, So I don't know. I mean because all I shaw
was like the back of the head and shoulders. I thought it was yeah,
but there's a They show a blurry front at one point in time,
and it it looks like her build because everybody on the stage was going fucking
apes. Yeah, that's why I thought it was CT. Like Jesus,
I think Casey is Nobody loves Casey. Nobody loves Casey that I think they
do. I think the players do. I think the players love her,
same with Josh. The fans don't seem to like them or care, but
the players really seem to good. Yeah. I don't have an impression of
Casey despite seeing her on like seven seasons or however long it's been. But
when I watch like the random Instagram stories that are linked from like Facebook and
stuff or the challenge, I really do like her. She seems personal and
warm and fun and friendly, and it's like, where is this person on
the show? She's fucking boring on the show most of the time, right,
That's yeah. Yeah, anyway, case as CT is last, but
that would still be out of order because Jordan was first. Well he's the
last thing. I'm he'll be the last thing. Carl will probably be the
last woman. Yeah, yeah, so I was. I was thinking about
this earlier when Zach, when you were talking about Devon being kind of a
letdown, Like I get that we want a lot of the big heavy hitters,
and that Devin may not seem like a big heavy hitters heavy hitter,
but they let off with Jordan for a very big reason, like he is
a massive impact. It really shows up immediately they like, this is what
we're gonna put you through, and then it's kind of it kind of has
a little bit of a lull because I think Casey is still a relatively beatable
person. And then you finish it out with uh Kara and CT like it's
a big final finale. So I mean it's good. I mean, I
think Casey is beatable, but I think, you know, between like Tory
and Kaz, I think Casey is by far the most intimidating woman that has
been there yet as a mercenary. She's not gonnat puzzles she I don't think
so. Okay, but if we are going, you know, with the
theory that they're you know, making these eliminations fit the competitor. She's a
former football player. She's getting like a hall brawler wrestling or something. But
she can just something. If she gets something physical, then yeah, she
will be a someone to be reckoned with. But if she doesn't get something
physical, I don't know that she would be a shoe in for that.
Yeah. Hey, good time, So all right, does you may anything
else before we wrap up the actual episode. What are we at time wise?
Hour and a half. Oh, poor Tim, not even close,
not even close. Next week, next week, No, never gonna happen.
We'll do it well. Thanks everybody for listening. As always, I
am Brian, Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, Carl and San Diego, Zachie
Bananas, and as Manuel said, I called you all here for a nice
round of butthole kissing Eat Eat, murder Eat four