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Hey, everybody, welcome back to
the Challenge the podcast all about the Challenge

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as always. I am Brian,
finally back after many months away, months,

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years ages three weeks. It could
to be back everybody, big uncle

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sweetee hey, everybody. Soon departing
for Australia, which is why she will

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not be around for the next like
two weeks. It sounds like, uh,

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I might be really tired on the
following week, Carl and san diego

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all the sex. That's why,
Well and I will have just gotten back

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from twenty four hours traveling. So
that's miserable sitting at work. Zacky bananas,

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Carlin, what is what is that
flight? It's not direct from from

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Minneapolis. It's my flight. On
the way out there is Minneapolis to Denver

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to LA to Auckland to Adelaide.
Oh fuck that sucks. Yeah, on

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the way back it's Adelaide to Auckland
to Houston to Minneapolis. Jesus, fuck

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that off. That all sounds miserable. So it's like twenty seven hours each

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way, awful sleeping in airports and
shit, gross did you uh did you

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watch Lost? Carolin? No,
be careful with those Australian flights, eh

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if I get lost in Australia.
I'm not all that upset. If it's

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flight eight fifteen, don't don't go. Don't get on that plane Astralia.

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It's not Australia. You gotta worry
about it on to the middle of the

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ocean. Did it all end up
like being a dream or something? No

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commenting on you don't know nothing about. They had like a polar bear show

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up on the desert. It's all
explained. Everything that happened on the island

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really happened. Stop with that fucking
bullshit. Yeah, Carlin, how dare

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you? Challengepot dot com joined the
Facebook group leave comments about how Carlin doesn't

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know about Lost in the Facebook.
I have never had any want to watch

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it, even when my best friend
in high school wanted to be who was

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the evangelista? Yeah, Kate what
I can't remember her actual name? That's

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the one ever name tattooed over my
heart. Well, I guess I know

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you know about this tattoo. I
guess we know now that in the off

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season we're doing Lost. We should
yep. Now that way, we really

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will never stop podcasting. It will
be every week, and for Lost it

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could actually be like two or three
times a week, because didn't that that

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show go on for like thirty seasons? I think six six six trash talking

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about Lost? Talking about it?
You could be more positive about it though,

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That's all. I don't talk shit
on vander Pump Rules, even though

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I should. I talked trash on
vander Pump Rules. What are you talking

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about? It is an absolutely trash
reality TV show. Well, I love

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it. Loss is the pinnacle of
television. It's the best TV show ever

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made. Don't be talking ship on
award winning center of pop culture TV show

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because Vans is award winning in the
center of pop television. It is not.

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It is straight up garbage. Uh
No, they had, They had

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one of the one of the cast
members made it into Variety's Top forty,

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so did Tory. It's not that
big of a deal. Does vander prop

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Rules have a whole episode about dude's
tattoos on his arm? Because Loss does?

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Yeah, there are actually multiple episodes
that are about dudes with tattoos on

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their arms. One of them,
in fact, just when the guy gets

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gets his ex girlfriend's name tattooed on
the on his arm. Also on the

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show, what was the whole episode
about the specific tattoos. Yes, I

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called bullshit on that. I'm an
entire episode going. Actually, they spent

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multiple episodes talking back and forth about
these fucking tattoos and about how he needed

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to hide them on a date,
and about how he was going to show

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them, and about how her mom
was really upset his that he got the

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tattoo on his arm. Yeah,
yeah, but she ain't got no Nicki

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and Polo. So fucking Nicki and
po Yeah what that means? So I

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did he get very first episode?
Shut her mouth? They were buried alive

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with diamonds. Everybody's listening to these
people still talking about lots. Everybody listened

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to this knows who nick and paoloar
for sure exactly. They're thinking, what

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the fuck is wrong with Carlin?
The Carlin? Was that already his x

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when he got the tattoo? Or
were they dating? Oh yeah, this

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has been his ex for like a
year. All right, all right,

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shut it down, no more.
But they were dating when he got the

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tattooed, No, no extra.
He was trying to get her back.

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Now, I can't let this go. Why did he get an ex's name

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tattooed? Because he was he was
trying to get her back. It just

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got her name. They hadn't been
dating for almost a year, so he

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got her name tattooed on his arm. She told him, no, I

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don't want to get back together,
and he started sleeping with a bunch of

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other women with a with an extra
friend's name on his that he just got

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tattooed. I wish I was good
looking enough to pull that ship off.

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Was even. No, don't don't
wish that, because he's an absolute fucking

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moron. All right? Is that? It just boot Carlin. She can't

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keep this show together. I leave
for a few weeks. Carlin just takes

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it over with random You guys brought
up lost. This was not my fault

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a TV show. We're doing a
podcast about the Challenge. I don't think

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any of us get to talk about
good TV. That's true. Look at

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that Wolf. He's got it,
Wolf, he's got it right here.

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Okay, I got no banner pump
bullshit on this show. No, I

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can just go on the street it. I only have seasons one, two,

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and four, though, so it's
weird. Oh yeah, that is

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weird. You're missing a few Oh
well, hey, Carling, what happened

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on the Challenge we oh, are
we talking about the show that we Let's

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just get to the elimination. Up
to the elimination. That's the only thing

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that matters. Tim. You get
no say in this because you've been gone

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for a few weeks and everybody knows
that long podcast. Better see what kind

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of energy we have with Tim's here. This is better, is better,

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worse, this is better. We've
been very low energy since you've been gone.

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Oh good, Now we're all yelling
at each other. I'm staying out

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of it, man, I don't
care what you guys yelling at. You're

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staying out of it. I'm not
talking ship. I'm just I'm I'm defending

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Lost. That's all best TV show
of all time? All right? Uh

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so we start off Big Tea back
in the house, Big Tea, Big

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Swaggy Tea, Big the Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, Crawdaddy Tea back in

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the house. I forgot. I
find it kind of funny when they walked,

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When Big t walked back in the
house, I typed that up and

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was like, oh but really,
Big Tea back in the house. Double

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one Tundra this week. Yeah,
yeah, nobody, nobody gave a shit

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that they were coming back except for
Melissa and big T. Right, they

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were excited for each other. They
were super excited when they walked into the

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house, and no one really crickets
from everybody else, they were not.

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They did not give a shit about
that ten grand nothing, didn't care.

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No. I have a feeling that
quite a few of them were hoping that

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she just went home, even though
it meant losing ten grand. Yeah.

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Well, big T was hoping that
winning would buy her some like cachet with

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the rest of the team something,
because she kept kept that money in the

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price pool. But I don't think
that matters. I don't think ten grand

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versus the four hundred or whatever is
in there. I don't think people give

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a shit about that. Cashe is
not on the season, Carlin, wrong

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season. Huh, Cashe is not
on the season. It's Cashe a person.

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Yes, Cashia is on USA one. Wait, that was an actual

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person's name. Yes, like a
black lady with a shaved head. Right.

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I think I thought she was Native
Maybe she was like she looked like

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I remember the name. I did
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She was from a dating show and
the guy was there too, and

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they kept having like Sinco or some
shit like that. Yeah, yeah,

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this is to who I thought it
was her name. It was something else,

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wasn't it. I don't know.
I google cache. She popped right

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up. Oh yeah, Carlin,
Jesus whatever. Why don't you know everything

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about every season? Haven't you heard
us talk about Cachet several times? Don't

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you just listen to us on repeat
constantly? Yeah, that was what I

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came out the other Yeah, you
just set up like a streaming site like

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you had for Atomic Cast for our
old seasons. Just go yeah, just

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random episodes. Yeah, Peacock does
that now with some of their big TV

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shows. Just take a random episode. Well yeah they have. They have

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channels on Peacock that you can just
put on in the background and it just

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consistently plays through like Housewives or Oh
Kardashians, the Office, kind of like

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Pluto. Yeah. So and then
we it's a it's a real quick in

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the house bits. We've got uh
Callum. It counts over to Callum and

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he's introducing all the couples in the
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and then about James and Mariah,
and then about him and Michelle, and

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I'm kind of upset that we still
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to see a big blow up between
the two of them because his lady black

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home got announced over to Michelle and
Callum. Yeah. Michelle tweeted that she

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didn't know that he had a girlfriend
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on TV. Oh sorry, Zach, I stole your social media thunder with

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that one. That's fine. I
just about to bring that up as well

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when she said that. Yeah,
so you know, yeah, that's why

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we didn't see fireworks in this show. I'm guessing that guy seems like a

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huge piece of shit, by the
way. Yeah, but it seems like

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there was one in the coming scene. Yeah, that's what I was gonna

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say. And I'm wondering if it's
I've never edited, maybe one cleverly edited.

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I'm also wondering if we're going to
see a return of Michelle down.

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I hope so, and it's about
something else, just because her her sanity

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in the house is gone. Spoilers
Harassio. There's a cut to him saying

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that he's taking his relationship with Anarese
at a glacial pace. He says something

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about how it's because of the game, but it sounds like it might also

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just be because Hirassio takes everything into
a glacial pace. I think this is

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just him. Yes, he's a
like and I like Carassio. This is

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gonna sound negative, but I like
Krassio. But he should not be He's

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boring as shit. He should not
be the star of this season. Like,

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he is a boring person. He's
a B level character that sort of

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is like, look at Banana's being
a piece of ship, but there's ross.

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He's a good dude. Yeah,
he was great. He was great

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last season. He was on because
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He's not he's too boring to be
a main guy. Ye, and we've

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been we saw him. We saw
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last season, like he just let
Levia run everything and he just you know,

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did whatever she said. Yeah,
we see him do that in this

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episode too. Yeah, I mean
he's still doing that. And then we've

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got Corey talking with Melissa saying it
sounds like everyone in the house is still

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very against him because of him calling
out Assif. That cuts to Emmanuel and

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Callum about how boring Horasi is.
Yeah, this episode I kind of turned

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on Corey a little bit. Everybody
like everybody did. I didn't like Corey

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from the beginning. Yeah, he
just yeah, all these two the past

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time you've been gone. Tim in
the last few episodes terrible. There's something

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about him that I just don't trust
it. I didn't not from the very

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beginning that I trust or like that
guy. There's just something about him.

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I kind of want him to just
like take his power as the is the

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villain and really lean into it.
But we'll see if that ever happens.

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So yeah, it's a oh I
have a note on here, especially for

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Tim. So we see we have
a cut to Calum and Emmanuel talking about

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the game and about how what they
want to do when they win, and

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you know how they're playing for their
families, And my note is talk about

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their families. Will Tim care?
No, I don't unless it's their kids.

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I'm always a big fan of dad's
talk about their kids. Other than

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that, I don't give a ship. All these people saying like, oh,

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I want to give money to my
parents, but it's so stupid want

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that to help his mom retire.
She used to work five jobs. I

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did like how he kept saying I
want to retire my mom because it sounded

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like he was got a killer or
something. Take care of you said it

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several times, I'm going to retire
my mom, and it's like, whoa,

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dude, that's not how you say
that here means coming off very weird.

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I didn't even catch that. Yeah, that's that is pretty good.

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Yeah. We have multiple montages already
and now we are onto the challenge.

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The challenge is called Working the Angles
the game, Tim, do you want

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to introduce the game? Oh?
Yeah, So there's these big two pyramids

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they're dangling above water. You start
off on one. At least one person

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has to swing over to the other
one and solve a puzzle key while the

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other person yells colors at you.
Basically, we've seen variations of this thing

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before. Yeah, heights above water. Six different teams, five teams of

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three, one team of four.
I thought the team of four was going

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to have an advantage. Yeah,
I did, stood there, ridiculous.

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Yeah, yes, they have to
solve the puzzle and the fastest fastest team

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wins. We've got a few.
I was expecting at least one person to

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fall from the rope swing almost.
Olivia came close, but she pulled it

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out. Yeah she did. I
was impressed by that. I was too.

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It's hard to recover when you're like
that. She was holding on by

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like a toe. Ye, she
managed to get herself back up. It's

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crazy. Yeah. Jay goes across
the answer key like a fucking spider monkey.

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That was impressive. Yeah, it
was. Yeah. We've got James

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up there having some PTSD because the
last time he was on Heights above Water

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was in his first season of the
Challenge and he smacked his face and under

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the water. Those are all the
brilliant clips of him with just full black

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eyes, big giant puffy face.
Did anyone see that and be like,

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Oh, him and Olivia would be
cute together. We've seen some people.

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I was thinking of Katie when Katie
fell in ruins. Yeah, and got

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a similar similar look, but in
all honest and I don't know, maybe

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this is just mean, but he
kind of still looks like his face is

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puppy puffy. I think that's the
roids. That is totally Yeah. Uh,

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he's got the roided outlook for sure. He would fit in real well

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with all the guys from like fifteen
years ago. Yeah, so we've got

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that the team of four which Mariah
is on and she's supposed to swing to

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the other side and chickens the fuck
out and just stands there. Yeah.

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I would be more forgiving of this
if she didn't jump off the thing a

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minute later when they completed the possum
like it was no big deal. Yeah,

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it's like you're gonna you're gonna you're
gonna end up in the water,

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like, at least try this,
but no, and if you're going to

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stay on that side, then at
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Like I put in my notes,
I thought it was really interesting that Colleen

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was reading the numbers backwards or not, maybe not backwards, but she was

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naming the colors from right to left, which is like the total opposite of

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what every single human would do,
I think. And she seems some languages

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they do Arabic ones I guess,
yeah, but still, it was sort

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of like, if you're going right
to left, you gotta you gotta give

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me a heads up on that.
I'm gonna assume left to right. But

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she seemed like annoyed that they didn't
get it, which is like I wouldn't

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have gotten that either. That was
weird. Sorry and sell your girlfriend there

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is Zachi. That's all right,
um, Colleen, Yeah yeah, don't

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you have a crush on Colleen zach
Her Olivia, you know all the cube

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blonds. If she's listening, Yeah, we've got uh big t Hoirasio and

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Kylon end up winning. They flew
through that thing. They did a really

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great job. Did any of you
guys enjoy this challenge because I found also

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I found all the competitions in this
episode extremely boring to watch. Yeah,

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you're probably really fun to do again, boring to watch, especially if there's

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like no real drama or anything.
Bern I was putting the stuff on the

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wrong sections. I was like,
ooh, is this gonna They corrected that

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after like three of them, and
she's like, oh, okay, just

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fixed it and that was nothing.
Yeah, that was the most action we

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got the entire episode. I was
really hoping that people would fall Like I

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wish it was just like a little
bit wider or something, so people would

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fall off or whatnot, because that
always makes it fun. Agreed. Yeah,

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so they yet again because it's chaos, they have to nominate someone immediately.

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They have nominate a guy. Uh. This is where Harassi was super

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quiet, and there's lots of talking
heads about how he is super quiet.

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Yeah, and during the like deliberation
or whatever, he just asked big T

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who who she wanted, and then
he asked Kyland who he wanted, and

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then I don't recall him saying a
name. He just sort of went along

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with what they said. And I
have one of James and James or Callum.

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He said that a talking head,
though he didn't say that too.

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Then, No, he said that
to them, Oh he did, I

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guess I don't remember that he said
he wanted to split them up, because

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yeah, he said that we should
split them up because it was a bunch

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of talking heads about how he is
he doesn't talk. And then it was

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immediately followed with him saying to the
two of them, we should split up

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James and Callum okay, which I
thought was a brilliant idea, Like they

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definitely needed to if they want to
to break up the guys on UK alliance,

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those are the two to do it
with. NA, we don't want

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to do that, and he just
dropped it. He just dropped it immediately.

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Well, he's like, what can
I do? I find it weird

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that Kyland was willing to drop it
immediately, Like I would have expected Kyland

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to say, yeah, let's put
one of them in, because to my

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knowledge, he doesn't have any alliance
with James Orcallum, but I think he

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feels like since they are connected to
American girls, both of them would be

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a little bit more willing to help
them out. Yeah, I guess that's

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true. This American Alliance is the
weakest fucking alliance of all times. It's

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like they have no loyalty to each
other at all, but they just still

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call themselves an alliance. It's a
bunch of them saying that they are loyal

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and then saying that they think that
the other people are snakes. Yeah,

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it's very weird. Ultimately, they
end up calling out a manual. Yeah,

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and we get lots of talking heads
about how that was a really dumb

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move and that he has a much
stronger alliance than people seem to realize.

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So now it's interesting because Kylon did
tweet about this and said that before the

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challenge he went around and asked all
the Americans like, would you be cool

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of me throwing in a manual?
And they were like, yeah, we're

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all on board. Interesting, what
a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, what's

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up next, Carlin? You look
lost lost in thought. No, sorry,

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I was reading through the chat because
we hadn't said anything in there it.

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Jamie and ka Buff brought up a
part of the reason why Mariah stood

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there and didn't do anything was because
she didn't want to bust her nose job.

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Thirteen thousand dollars crazy? How much
was your nose out, tim much

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more than that, much more?
Should get your money back? A man,

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come on, sim sort of had
a nose job, he had a

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I did I did it costs?
Like? Yeah, I think insurance.

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I think insurance covered like three hundred
grand of that operations those nuts. It

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was crazy, dude. That was
like, just stick a knife up there,

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just do it. They braced me
for They didn't actually end up having

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to do this, but he said
they might have to cut my nose all

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the way around and then flop it
to the side to get all this ship

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out of my face. They didn't
have to do that, but Jesus,

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it was crazy, dude. It
was a weird, like year out of

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my life. Yeah. Yeah,
and now I have a huge cavern in

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my sinuses, so when I get
a cold, I blow out so much

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snot I could, like, it's
like gallons. It's unbelievable. It's unreal.

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Single ladies, Yeah, oh man, it's the most it's so attractive.

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Jamie asked what kind of tumor was
it? Oh, it was a

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shit. What was they called it? Like? Uh, non inverted paploma.

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I don't know what that means,
but okay, but benine and relatively

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common. Uh. Like it was
like two golf balls basically, Jesus fit

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that in your head. There's more
room up there than you would think.

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It's pretty. And then they had
to put stints in my nose right to

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like hold everything apart while it healed. And then like a week or two

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later, I had to go back
and get them removed. And do you

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just have like two golf balls worth
of space just chilling out up there?

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Yeah? Just like yeah, just
like a big, big void. But

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when they pulled these stints out and
like, no anesthesia, no nothing,

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I'm just like wide awake. And
he pulls them out and they were like,

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I mean like seven inches long,
and they like went straight back into

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my It was the weirdest feeling.
And then there was one that went all

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the way up in my forehead.
I could feel as he yanked it down.

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I could feel it moving, moving
out of my head. So weird.

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Welcome to the medical podcast everyone.
Yeah it was nuts. We've got

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lost, We've got medical hand or
pump all within your challenge podcasts. Yeah

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you should put. I was gonna
say, doctor Jack Shepherd, that's amazing.

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That's right, final surgeon, doctor
Jack Shepherd, Carlyn, come on

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the main guy, man of science. You should have got like a small

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like magic eight ball, just uh
noted. I'll message my doctor about it.

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A little clear window on your cheek. Check your outlook? Not so

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good. Everything's written backwards so you
can look in a mirror. Brilliant.

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Well, if you need to design
like that was ridiculous, weird meta shit

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for people. I think that's my
job. Yeah it should be. It's

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got to pay more than my current
job. We're not in the after show.

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We should get back to the actual
show. Yes, so we we

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go back to the house real quick
switch over to club night. Ummm.

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Callum says that he doesn't trust Nourice, and Berna agrees with him. She

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seems very excited about this because no
one seems to be listening to her about

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have you seen anything this? No, not at all. I mean it

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seemed like out of nowhere for me. But I'm like, have I just

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not been paying attention because the season
sucks? But yeah, it seemed a

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little out of nowhere for me too. I think it just was because this

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episode was very Harassio heavy, and
they were trying to edit it to show

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us that Harassio is not making his
own decisions. Nourice is making them for

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him. That's the impression I got. At least he showed one clip from

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like four episodes ago, we get
Big teen Melissa trying to recruit Ed to

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their alliance and his talking head saying, yeah, that's not gonna happen.

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He was good. He was more
diplomatic than I would expect it Ed to

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be. Yeah, you know what
I mean, he handled that pretty well.

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You know Ed. I really liked
Ed when he first showed up to

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the Challenge like five or six seasons
ago and was just there for like what

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two or three episodes. Loved him
then because he was just fun and he

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was energetic and it was it was
nice to see a new character. I'm

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a little upset that he hasn't had
more screen time this episode of this season,

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because he still seems like a very
fun, energetic person to have on

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the show. Yeah, and he's
also super smart. Yeah he doesn't look

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or sound like it, but yeah
he is when it comes down to,

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yeah he is. Yeah. I
do worry about Ed though, the same

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as Horasio. I like him as
a as like the b character over there,

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like being weird and whatever. If
he's all of a sudden promoted to

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the face, I think I would
get sick of him. Yeah. I

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could see him being way too energetic
for you. Yeah, opposite issues,

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right, I hate them both for
different reasons, said Case. Said.

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The clip apparallel was from last episode. Well that's how much I remember last

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episode. Well, if you just
drop a yeahbit still yeah, but still

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there you go, then we are. Oh, Harasio throws talks to a

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manual and throws Kyland under the bus. Which I mean, now that we

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know that Kyland went out and talked
to a bunch of people in the house

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about getting a manual in there,
I kind of understand this a little bit

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more, But at the time it
felt kind of like a, Oh,

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you're just throwout his name because you
don't want to be the one that called

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him. It was still it was
a weak move no matter what. Yeah.

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Yeah, And Kyland also did say
on Twitter that part of the way

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he talked Horatio and to go in
for em Manuals, he said, like,

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you can throw all the blame on
me, like, just just say

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that I forged you into this,
gotcha. Still though, that doesn't it

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doesn't make Carrossio look good to say
that. It just makes him look weak

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and malleable and kind of pathetic.
Yep, I agree with that. We

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got back to the house and we
get a bunch of the US Alliance talking

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and saying how they don't trust Corey
and did I did I miss hear this?

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Did they really say that he has
football brain? Oh? I didn't

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catch that. I didn't catch that
either. I think they might have said

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that because they said that and then
they it was immediately followed like Olivia said

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that at least what sounded like that, and then Raven said it, and

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then they said, yeah, he
was crying about absolutely nothing. And I

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heard that. It was like,
wait, are you are you saying that

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he's got what is it ct CT? Like really, that's the brain injury

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concussions cause it's that a bunch of
like, who is it Aaron Hernandez all

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of the football players that have gotten
super violent in their old age, that

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sort of thing, that they're all
getting their brains donated to science because of

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Iana Hernandas. I think he is
only like mid twenties or late twenties.

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Yeah, I mean none of all
of the people who haven't die relatively young.

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Hernandaz is he's a football player who
killed somebody. That's what I was

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gonna say. I thought he had
killed some couple of people. Yeah,

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yeah, it just it. It
sounded like that's what they said. And

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my immediate thought was like, wait, you're really throwing CTE out there is

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like a oh this is I'm just
gonna like, this is gonna be something

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kind of funny and weird to say
what And maybe I's heard them. Maybe

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they didn't say that at all.
It just it it caught me off guard.

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I wouldn't have known what they were
talking about if I heard that,

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So it makes sense that it just
by me. Did they call him flippy

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floppy? Which on if that's what
you heard, maybe oh maybe that's yeah,

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okay, uh Swanni is saying that
they said flippy floppy. Okay,

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that makes more sense. I'm glad
to hear that, because what did you

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think of football head, football brain? Football brain? I've never heard that

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term. Okay, yeah, neither
did I, which is why I thought

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it was really weird. Flippy flip
floppy, Okay, is flip floppy?

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That's true, he is flip floppy. Then it cuts to everybody's favorite part,

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Michelle setting up a date for Callum
Vomit could give it half a ship

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about these people, especially when you
know he's got a girlfriend at home.

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Worse. Yeah, I do wonder
what was MTV trying to show us here,

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Like were they trying to endear this
couple to us? Because this is

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gross. I think they're trying to
a part of me. Honestly, just

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kind of felt like they were trying
to build it up even more, like,

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look, how much of a douche
he is. But at the same

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time, they don't mention that he's
got a girlfriend back home. I don't

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it is weird that they don't don't
keep bringing it up. They should.

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This should be like a recurring theme, he said. They said Michelle set

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up this d episodes ago, but
they just now showed it so interesting,

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Okay, and some of the girls
were talked on Twitter that apparently, like

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you know, we can't see her
say like, oh, he does so

407
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,359
much for me. Well, they
didn't chose it, Like I guess.

408
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,240
He was making her breakfast in bed
every single day they were there. Every

409
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:32,519
day he'd go out into the woods
and like pick flowers for her. So

410
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:33,720
it seems like he was doing a
lot of good stuff, just unfortunately he

411
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,039
had a girlfriend back home. Yeah. I mean, you can do all

412
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,200
the good stuff in the world,
but when you're already cheating on the girlfriend

413
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,640
that you've had, Yeah, in
a way, that's really that's worse.

414
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,240
Yeah, I think worse of him
than if he was just cheating on his

415
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,759
girlfriend and not doing any of that, right, yep, I one agree,

416
00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:00,599
Yeah, yeah, just vomit.
She says, the cow checks all

417
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,839
her boxes, and then she talks
about what she wants for some check.

418
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,799
I'm sure he's been checking that for
weeks, all right. And then we've

419
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:16,440
got Corey talking about how he thinks
he's on the chopping block. No ship,

420
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:29,079
uh deliberation, say my name,
bitch, Oh, don't say my

421
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:36,079
name. That means very something,
very different. So Emmanuel that's what Calin

422
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:40,119
and Michelle were doing, saying their
names, bitch, say my name,

423
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,440
bitch. Kay in the chat room
does bring up that Mariah was also cheating.

424
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,799
Have you guys discussed this Mariah banana? But we'll get there there,

425
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,799
all right, all right, hold
it, hold it? Yeah, I

426
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:59,079
I have notes about that later.
So deliberation callum will or not callum.

427
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,759
Emmanuel welcomes everyone to deliberation by saying
thank you for coming around for a nice

428
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:08,519
round of buttle kissing. And I
found that very funny too. That's that

429
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:15,319
slight language barrier. It's like butt
hoole kissing means very different than us kissingers,

430
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Like, yeah, he was so
good because everybody just starts laughing.

431
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,720
And then Big T tries to sit
there and say I'm so sorry that you're

432
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:29,079
down here, and he's like,
no, you're not. Yeah, God,

433
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:34,200
this is this season. We have
had so many deliberations where people come

434
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,480
into this who we know we're on
the chopping block, and then they just

435
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,119
like not just foot in mouth,
they like whole leg in their mouth and

436
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,880
make it even more obvious that they're
gonna be the ones that they're chosen.

437
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,279
And Corey does that the moment that
he gets down there, I feel like

438
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:57,359
this is worse than the last time. Oh god, yeah, yeah,

439
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,079
yeah, what was Corey thinking with
his no, what was he doing?

440
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:07,880
He's the fucking worst, he really
is. He should have just kept his

441
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,519
fucking mouth shut because now he's got
everybody mad at him, and he he

442
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,639
felt like it just it was.
It was so weird. Yeah, it

443
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:23,159
felt desperate and pathetic. And I
know he was trying to show his alliance,

444
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,960
like see what I'm doing for you. You can't throw me in because

445
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,119
I'm working for you. Yeah,
but it was it came off real bad

446
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,519
and real wrong, and he looks
like an idiot. Yep, it's nobody

447
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:38,960
can trust him. Cool. Yeah, that's kind of someone in the deliberation

448
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,159
brings up like I can't remember who
it was. I think it might have

449
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,960
been Colleen, I don't know.
Like the words that you do not say

450
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,920
in the challenge, especially in a
deliberation, are things like I was a

451
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,599
snake, I was being sneaky,
I was fooling you like things like that.

452
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:00,440
Yeah, it just makes you look
like it looks even worse. Well

453
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:04,760
even was it. Nourice points out
like, okay, if you were like

454
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,960
undercover or whatever the fuck he said
he was doing. Wouldn't you tell at

455
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,880
least one person in your alliance so
they would back in. Yeah. The

456
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,159
moment that she said that, I
was yep. Yeah, he's such an

457
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,920
idiot. I hate him. Please
tell Michelle like, hey girl, I'm

458
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:23,119
just doing this to try and get
intel. I will feed all the intel

459
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:28,920
that I get from them to you. Yeah. I feel like I feel

460
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,440
like Michelle and Jay were in on
it. I think just no one else

461
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,320
in the alliance knew that he would
feel like Michelle might have been in on

462
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,320
it, and she just didn't say
anything. Wait a minute, you guys

463
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,039
are taking this seriously. I think
he was just lying. He wasn't doing

464
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:44,239
that shit. No, he's been
saying it for episodes that he's not on

465
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,960
their alliance, but not not to
like not like a secret not in like

466
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000
a secret agent way. He said
this like two or three episodes when he

467
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,320
first started getting buddy buddy with Michelle
or with if any to go back and

468
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,239
rewatch it. I don't recall that, but I feel so I feel like,

469
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,119
you know, to give them some
I feel like we've seen throughout all

470
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:07,000
the episodes, Michelle and j came
in here with like five different like sub

471
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,000
alliances within the Big So I feel
like so I feel like Michelle and Jade

472
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:15,960
knew everything Corey was doing, just
no one else in the Big Alliance knew

473
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:20,000
because they were just keeping that to
themselves. Yeah, Michelle and j not

474
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,199
only came with a bunch of sub
alliances, but they came in with a

475
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,840
bunch of sub alliances who all thought
that they were their number ones, yes,

476
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,960
not realizing that Michelle and j would
never choose them as their number one.

477
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:37,119
Yeah. Just let the dog out. Ooof let the dogs out.

478
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,280
Yes, It's like Corey just thought
that, like I'm at the bottom of

479
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,519
the pyramid or the tone pole,
Like if I do this, people are

480
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:50,760
gonna be like, oh, like
I want to screw over my top people

481
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,679
now and bring Corey up. It's
like, no, You're just You're still

482
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:57,480
gonna be at the bottom no matter
what you say or do. Yeah.

483
00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:00,519
Yeah, yeah, And I think
it. I think it made it because

484
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:02,280
I think the other Americans were like
me, that they just didn't believe him,

485
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,199
that he's lying because he's desperate,
and now he's even more at the

486
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,280
bottom, you know what I mean. And he kept he kept saying,

487
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,199
I'm doing this for my alliance,
I'm doing this for my lines, And

488
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,880
I wanted one of Melissa big T
to just be like, do it for

489
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,239
your alliances. You know what,
your alliance is gonna vote you in every

490
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,920
single one of them. M hm, Like they don't care about you.

491
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:25,840
They're using you the way you used
us. Yep. Yeah. And the

492
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,480
other part of it is like I
don't really know what info he has gotten

493
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:35,920
from Big T and Melissa to pass
along. They've been very transparent because theyre

494
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,280
It kind of felt like, yeah, it kind of felt like he just

495
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:45,400
laid this all out there to have
it backfire in his face because they had

496
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,760
ship to say anyway, Yeah,
okay, cool, you've been getting buddy

497
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,480
buddy with him, but haven't actually
say anything. I just think it's even

498
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:57,400
shittier when he's like, no,
I never cared about either of you.

499
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Yeah, he did a whole lie
and then cut to like Big Tea and

500
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:07,800
him sharing a moment. Didn't it
say earlier that day, I must have

501
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,480
coming out when he came out,
and I thought it was a coming out

502
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,960
party, but yeah, yeah,
I mean he definitely he took it to

503
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:21,280
a personal place, not just a
game place. And yeah, I think

504
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,360
that was his biggest misstep, right, and it was also sort of sorry,

505
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,199
go ahead, Deck, I was
just gonna say, yeah, I

506
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,239
feel like we saw that little clip. I didn't think they really do that,

507
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,000
but yeah, it seems like he
used you know, big tea coming

508
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:37,119
out in her sexuality like as a
stepping stone in the game, which I

509
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,760
think is kind of shady. Yeah, and to me too, like what

510
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,159
is the strategy here? Because it
is it's a men's elimination day, so

511
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:49,679
what is he trying to do?
He didn't alternative, No, he didn't

512
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:52,880
throw out an alternate name. He
tossed a couple of women under the bus.

513
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,960
But like, to what end?
It's you can't nominate them, so

514
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,519
like, what are you doing?
Did he expect his entire be like,

515
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,840
you know what, you're right?
I think? Instead, Yeah, I

516
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,440
do think he thought that, which
is an unbelievably bizarre thing to think.

517
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,320
Yeah, I think they he thought, oh, they'll be like he's on

518
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,480
our side, let's vote in one
of the British men instead. Yeah,

519
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:21,559
but it came about he's got a
very hyperdog in here. Now. Sorry,

520
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,239
Yeah, this was never gonna work. This was a stupid plan and

521
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,000
he looks like an idiot and everybody
hates him and it's good, I think,

522
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,960
including the fans. By the way, I think a lot of the

523
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,920
people watching the show turned on Corey. Yeah, if they hadn't, if

524
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:39,159
if they did not like him to
begin with, I think after this episode

525
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:45,480
he definitely lost happy. I hated
them since episode one this season, Samesy,

526
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,679
we're all just catch it up to
me. I hated him last time

527
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,519
he was on the show. He
beat that. Yeah, I hated him

528
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:59,559
from that Christmas fucking show. He
didn't twelve dates of Christmas, twelve dates

529
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:07,079
of Christmas. I didn't at once. Yeah, he definitely. I do

530
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:13,000
kind of hope that in future seasons
and whatnot, if he ends up coming

531
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,880
back, which I'm sure he will, I hope he steps into his power

532
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,400
as a as a villain and really
really goes there as a villain, because

533
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,159
I think he could be a fun
villain to have. I don't think he

534
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,719
has the self awareness to do that. I don't think he made a good

535
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,239
will. I don't think it'd be. There's good villains that you like to

536
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,920
watch, you sort of root for, and you think they're funny and whatever.

537
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,599
He is not one of those.
I just don't like the guy.

538
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,079
Yeah, And I think if you're
gonna be a villain, you then you

539
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:39,519
have like the physical prowess of like
a Beth where you can just like body

540
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:44,119
everyone to stick around, or you
need to be like a Wes or Bananas

541
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:46,320
where he's like super socially and politically
savving. I don't think he's either.

542
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:49,559
I think he'd come in be a
villain and then like, great, you're

543
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:53,320
the first one out. Zach just
said that Banana's is a villain. He's

544
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,760
on house civillains. You can't deny
that now true. I just didn't think

545
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,480
that we'd ever get Zach saying it
out loud. Yeah, I guess those

546
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:09,360
heroes of history were villains. Yeah, we'll be the wrestling fan. He

547
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,719
knows that some of the most beloved
people are the villains. No, I

548
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,559
guess, I guess you're right.
Yeah, he's gonna end up playing in

549
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:24,039
the middle ground. He's gonna end
up playing the middle ground and being a

550
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:29,400
villain, thinking that he's the hero
and never actually be able to be either.

551
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:36,360
I think we'll never see him again. I think him at least once

552
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,559
I think he'll want to keep coming
back and production bring him back because he's

553
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:43,920
gonna be drama. Yeah, he's
definitely gonna be drama. He does bring

554
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,480
the drama. Yeah. Ultimately he
ends up getting photed in which you guys

555
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,880
may have said when I was letting
the dog back in m H and US

556
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,960
and he chokes up about it.
No, Jesu, this guy, this

557
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,199
guy can't be a villain. He's
too sensitive. Well, Josh, Josh

558
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,840
is sensitive. Josh is the new
American here. By the way, you

559
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,840
missed it him. I'm now a
Josh stand. Oh gross, come on,

560
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,760
you met him in person and came
back saying that Josh is the best

561
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,159
human being on earth. I bet
he's a likable dude. I bet he's

562
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:20,559
a nice, likable guy in real
life, and Wolfing Carlin laughed at me.

563
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:22,800
I said this, But I'm I
mean, like I've met seventy plus

564
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,440
challengers, he is by far the
most physically intimidating person I've stood next to

565
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,079
you from the show. Physically intimidating, Zach, that is because you were

566
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:37,880
five foot nothing. Okay, so
I've stood next to Jordan and Durell.

567
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,679
I'm telling you, if I was
walking to a dark alley. I'd much

568
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,760
rather have Drell attacking it than Josh. Is it just because he's a big

569
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,239
He's like what six three or six? Yeah, he just he's like towering

570
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,280
over me. He's bulked up.
He just looks like he could just like

571
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,880
pick me up over his head and
like snap me in half if you wanted.

572
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,840
You sid next to Zach too,
though I have, But I feel

573
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,000
like they built up Zach on TV
so much that you like expect all the

574
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,440
stuff that you made. You're like, oh, you're a lot smaller than

575
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,800
I expected, but Josh is bigger
than you expected. I feel like,

576
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,480
yeah, I feel like Josh is
like way bigger than I expected him to

577
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:17,039
be. Okay, what about Kyle. He's a huge dude, That's right,

578
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:22,039
Kyle a dude. He's tall,
but I mean he's like lanky.

579
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:28,199
He's not like, you know,
he doesn't look like you weren't physically intimidated

580
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:34,840
by Johnny Bananas when you stand next
to him. No, because Bananas would

581
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,840
never fight me. He would,
he would bring me along with him.

582
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:46,239
It's because you've seen his porn video
and all right, anyway, who goes

583
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:53,880
who goes home? All right,
we were in the elimination. They head

584
00:43:53,920 --> 00:44:00,079
down there and they bring in the
champ to come back and beat them all,

585
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:06,159
and it's Devin. Crowd goes wild. He's fucking buttons. So I

586
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:10,000
was trying to hit a drum roll
and this thing's not even playing all right,

587
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:16,880
before we get into Devin, I
can stimulate it. Worry so,

588
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:22,239
Tim, you weren't here two weeks
ago. God damn it, you weren't

589
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,360
here two weeks ago when we got
the first champion. Yeah, what was

590
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,360
your take on Jordan coming back?
How'd you feel about it all that?

591
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:32,239
I thought it was great. I
love Jordan, he is I think he

592
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,760
cemented himself as my number one favorite
challenger of all time with that one.

593
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,920
I just really like Jordan. He
just has a presence on screen that I

594
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,480
really like, and he's such a
badass and he you know, I don't

595
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,440
know. I just really liked it. And then I watched his little recap

596
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,679
of like how it actually went down, because I guess what we saw wasn't

597
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,039
what happened. I like that too. There's just something he's like a captivating

598
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:58,480
dude, right like when he talks
you. Yeah, he's such an ass

599
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,800
on this show and he God,
it just makes it so much better.

600
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Yeah, he sells it well,
he backs it up. He's talks shit,

601
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,239
but he always performs, and it's
he's a pleasure to see on Every

602
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,840
time I see the guy, I'm
like, oh, thank god, it's

603
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,840
Jordan. All right, we got
Jordan. I was thinking of you when

604
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,360
when we were watching those episodes,
because especially when Jordan showed up it to

605
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,000
me, it was the immediate like
this is the this is the injection of

606
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,199
entertainment and like life that we needed
in this show. It really did show

607
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,840
how much we needed the vets to
be there. Yep. And I think

608
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,920
MTV knows that too, because this
elimination was like thirty minutes. It was

609
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,679
like a third of the whole episode. Yeah, and if for a lackluster,

610
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,599
bullshit, shitty looking elimination by the
way, Yeah, but we got

611
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:46,960
a lot of We got a lot
of talking heads with Devon and yeah cuts

612
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,519
to him, which was nice.
Devon's great too. Devin is funny and

613
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:53,239
he talks shit, which I like. Yep. I don't know if it's

614
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,760
always deserved that he talks shit.
He doesn't always back it up, but

615
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:59,440
no, it doesn't always back it
up, but he's always pretty funny about

616
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480
it, which yeah cocky, and
I just think it's great. Josh,

617
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:07,920
I gonna say times nine, and
when he fucks it up, he's just

618
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,960
like, yeah, well he doesn't
take it seriously. Yeah. Half the

619
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,719
time when he fucks it up,
he's like, well that didn't go right,

620
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,000
and he just calls himself out on
it. It's I really liked Evin,

621
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,480
but when Jordan came on, it
was like whole body chills, even

622
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:29,320
though I knew he was gonna be
there. Kaz was a super letdown last

623
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,880
week, and I feel like I
feel like he followed and Kas's footsteps.

624
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,519
I thought he was a major letdown
this week. Oh bullshit, what was

625
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:43,239
What was the letdown? I think
it's just if you're bringing in people's mercenaries,

626
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,480
you know you need like the car
Marias, you need the ct Jordans,

627
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,880
like someone that walks out and you're
like crapping your pants having to go

628
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,239
against them. If I was down
there like it's Corey for elimination and I

629
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,760
saw him walk out, I'm like, oh, I got this, Like

630
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,079
this is even easier than going against
a manual, like give me him over

631
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:06,519
at Manuel for a puzzle, for
a puzzle against Devon, absolutely not.

632
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,280
I would miss it there going oh
shit, yeah, I might be fucked.

633
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,599
I would too. I mean he
won, Zach and I think didn't

634
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,360
he say his record was seven and
two? Yeah, so he comes out

635
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:22,800
he is seven challenges, three finals, one championship. I thought when he

636
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,480
said seven and two, I thought
he meant eliminations seven wins too. Might

637
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:29,000
he might be he might be seven
and two with eliminations. I don't know.

638
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,880
Yeah, to run through this real
quick. The last time he Emmanuel

639
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,280
was on the show, he competed
against him and Devon won and sent him

640
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:44,039
home. We get a cut from
Michelle sing that apparently they're best friends and

641
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:46,039
talk like every day, which I
found very strange. I thought I was

642
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:51,719
surprised by that too. Yeah,
it's interesting. And then we get the

643
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,440
draw and Devon pulls the third option
that we haven't seen yet, option three.

644
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:00,719
Yeah. I was excited about this
that I think he might be in

645
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,360
the minority in this episode. I
actually really liked this one. I didn't

646
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,119
necessarily like the elimination, but they
I thought they did a good job of

647
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,719
some of the build up. I
didn't like the elimination. I still don't.

648
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,960
I don't think they should have had
Devon. I mean they're going to

649
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,400
have He's the current he's the current
reigning champ of the MTV show. Yeah,

650
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,559
I'm just saying you guys to find
him intimidating. But like tim or

651
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:23,840
Wolfe, if you were in elimination, you had your choice of going against

652
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,199
him, ct or Jordan, you're
telling me that you're like most terrified of

653
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,000
Devon. It depends on what the
elimination is. If it's math in a

654
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,440
puzzle, then yeah, I'll be
shitting my pants. Yeah. Well,

655
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,920
and also, Zach, it's not
about being most intimidated because that really only

656
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:44,199
one person's going to win that.
It's just like generally this person can generally

657
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,760
beat me in most things. I
would say Devin could beat me in like

658
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:52,239
almost anything. And he's shown on
the show he's got decent endurance. He

659
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,119
beat Wes and like in speed and
endurance thing. He's beat a bunch of

660
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:00,360
people on brain game stuff. The
challenge is the challenge has puzzles a lot

661
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:06,079
of puzzles. We've had puzzle eliminations. I I I don't mind them bringing

662
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:08,880
a mercenary then having the thing catered
to what they're good at, like a

663
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,800
puzzle. No, I think it's
brilliant that they're doing that. Yeah.

664
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:15,760
Yeah, give CT a headbanger,
give Devin a puzzle like that's that's fine.

665
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:17,920
You still have to be good at
those things to win the challenge.

666
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,159
I mean CT could also have a
puzzle. Yeah, you could do good

667
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:23,320
at a puzzle. Yeah. I
mean a lot of these guys are good

668
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,079
at everything. Devin be a little
less physical, but so what he still

669
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,079
is. I guess I figure if
you put physical or a puzzle, you

670
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:34,360
put those three men in there.
I think Jordan and CD combined for like

671
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,239
eighty out of one hundred wins,
made Devon wins twenty times. That's probably

672
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,760
like, it's probably true, but
it's not them against each other, it's

673
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,000
them against every other challenger. Yeah. It just goes to show that I

674
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:50,599
think the difference in level between them
as competitors. If those three are going

675
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:52,800
head to head over and over,
Devin is like the one that has to

676
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,320
squeak out a win, where those
two will just dominate. Yeah. I

677
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,840
mean, if you're putting the three
of them in the same ring together,

678
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:04,360
Yeah, Jordan wins like eighty percent
of the time, Cet wins fifteen percent

679
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,519
of it and Devin wins five.
So I'm just saying so instead of it,

680
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,559
instead of Devn, I'd much either
seen like a Derek or a land

681
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:13,679
In or you know someone like that. That. Yeah, but we're walking

682
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,280
in land In. We're probably never
going to get a Derek again, like

683
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,559
of the realistic challenges that we're gonna
get. I really like seeing Devon.

684
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,639
I still think we could get that. No, we discussed this last week,

685
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:27,880
but you could get land In for
like fly out for two days.

686
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:30,760
We are never going to see land
In again. He is never going to

687
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,679
do this again. I think that's
true too. I don't think I'll gonna

688
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,320
do it. I think you can
get him to come out for forty eight

689
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,280
hours to do one elimination and go
home. Not a chance. Well,

690
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,039
Plus, we have no idea what
kind of physical shape Landon is in these

691
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,159
days. It's been like twelve years, maybe more than that, fifteen years

692
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:50,679
since we've seen him last time.
He could be a mess, uh and

693
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,800
Derek. I would I would be
more threatened of Devin than Derek almost for

694
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,559
sure. Derek's Derek's pitbull. He
won't give up. But that's all he's

695
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,360
got. He's not dude, He's
not good at puzzles. I think I

696
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,760
could beat Derek in a lot of
physical competitions, to be honest with you,

697
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,639
and I'm sure I could do it
in puzzles. I would not be

698
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,320
scared of Derek. You think he
could take him a lot of physical competitions,

699
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,840
knowing what he did to Jos,
You think you could outperform Joss against

700
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,159
Derek. Uh, he did not. He didn't do anything to Joss.

701
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,840
Joss just screwed up and forgot that
he was playing a game. Yeah,

702
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:30,239
but he was. He was manhandling
Derek, Yes he was. Joss also

703
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,239
just got he was man handling Derek, and Derek was able to deal with

704
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,440
the endurance. Yeah yeah, and
just wore Joss out over time till he

705
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,480
made them mistake. He didn't wear
a mouth though they both would have made

706
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:45,519
it one mistake. Yeah. I
mean, you can't take a win away.

707
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:46,639
He beat Joss, like, you
can't take that away from him.

708
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:52,039
But it was not. It wasn't
like a great win. It was just

709
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,079
you know, you've got held you
held onto a ring while he threw you

710
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:58,719
around and then he yeah, and
then he'd slipped up for a second and

711
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,880
that was it. I like Devon, I like to see him on regular

712
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,320
seasons, but I just feel like
anytime you do Mercenary and you have the

713
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,920
biggest, baddest, scariest people to
come in and like be intimidating. Yeah,

714
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:13,559
Darrell coming in. Durrell has failed
miserably the last like ten up the

715
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:15,880
ten seasons. He don't talk about
like that coming up. Well, when

716
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,760
Derell comes out, I'll probably talk
about how I'm disappointed in his appearance as

717
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,719
well. How could you be disappointed
Devin won this? How could you be

718
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,199
disappointed he did what he was supposed
to do. I think that Zach is

719
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,440
still holding on to the old Devon's
Johnny Banna's rivalry and is just upset that

720
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,840
they're net friends. Oh you're upset
that Devon beat Johnny Banas in that one

721
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,760
elimination. No, I just think
if you rerun that season and simulates a

722
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:44,199
one hundred times, Devin and Toy
win five. I think his win was

723
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,639
more of the you know, everything
fell right, But I think ninety Johnny

724
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:55,320
Bananas quit the final grapes Sour Grape, Zach sour Grape person sour Grapes.

725
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,559
Johnny Bananas quit in the final,
Johann Bananas because you know what if she

726
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:05,719
in Twitter and Anisa have won that
season, Oh yeah, she would have,

727
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:12,880
but Johnny Bananas quit the final.
Yeah, Devin beat Bananas in that

728
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,440
final, and Devin beat Bananas in
an elimination, So Devin is better than

729
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:27,079
Bananas, all right, just say
just say yeah, yeah, but still,

730
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,519
okay, it's a good point.
So Devin pulls the third option.

731
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,079
We finally get to see what this
is. I say, finally, when

732
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,280
there have only been this is the
third of the things. It kind of

733
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,079
made me wonder whether all three of
them were the third option. Just to

734
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,119
fuck with everybody up there, I
will say, thank god, we know

735
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,559
now. Thank god. I was
a little worried that we were never going

736
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:51,880
to get it. Me too,
We're gonna speculate all season and never know.

737
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,079
Yeah. Well, Carlin and I
called this out two weeks ago that

738
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:58,920
this was what it would be,
and we were right. We did.

739
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:01,760
I'm I I've enjoyed seeing this.
So for those who don't know, the

740
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:08,519
third option is Devon got to pick
any man up there, excluding the two

741
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:16,199
who won the challenge. So everyone
is on the chopping blocking. It's not

742
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:24,800
that everybody's on the chopping block excluding
Kyland and Horassio. The guys are pissed.

743
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:30,840
They are not happy. James looks
real scared. They yeah, none

744
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:37,119
of them are excited about this.
You should have picked James, uh devon

745
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:45,840
running back book. Oh yeah,
hard for sure. So Devin asks everybody

746
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,840
up there, like, who should
I call out to see if he can

747
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,440
get anybody to throw someone under the
bus. Uh. Really? The only

748
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:57,039
name that gets thrown out there is
Corey. Michelle does kind of do like,

749
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:00,000
oh, don't pick him to callum
and we're Riyah does it, oh,

750
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:04,119
and don't pick him and points at
James and then says, oh,

751
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:07,840
wait, shit, I can't say
that, and then says pick Corey.

752
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,599
Yeah. It was a wonder I
was wondering if it was a I should

753
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,599
I shouldn't say that because of bananas, or I shouldn't say that because James

754
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:21,360
is on the other alliance, or
because that's going to make him pick him?

755
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,760
Because I just pointed them out.
Yeah, I just couldn't believe that

756
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:30,760
more people weren't saying stuff. Yeah, no one said anything. Just come

757
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,119
on, t yeah, big T
called out Corey right away, and good

758
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:37,599
for Big T, and then nobody
else was gonna say it was just like

759
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:40,599
crickets, and Corey was a cop
out answer, like, so he he

760
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,599
wants to know who I should call
out who has not already been called out,

761
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:49,480
because very obviously the guy who's down
here in the sand is the one

762
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:52,480
that you guys put here, right
But I wanted, I wanted Corey to

763
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,360
go home. I didn't. I
didn't even get back back with him for

764
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,159
another week. So I wasn't that
surprised that they didn't call out names,

765
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:04,519
because you know, we hear Devin
like them talking about Devon that he likes

766
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,800
chaos. We always think he's a
pot star. So the first thing that

767
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,440
I thought in my mind when Devin
said that is, Okay, he's gonna

768
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,400
find out who everyone's like. I
want to protect these people. Throw these

769
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,440
people in, and anyone that they're
like throw them in. Devin's like they're

770
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,760
safe, anyone that they're like,
please don't throw this person in. Devon's

771
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,079
like, okay, you guys are
on the table now, I'm gonna like

772
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,239
mess you guys up and just ruin
everyone's plans. Yeah, I mean,

773
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,480
I don't deny that. I agree
with you there. I think he was

774
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:34,119
probably gonna do what he did anyway, just because he's he loves stirring the

775
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:38,239
pot. Well. Also, k
says in the chat room, rumor is

776
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,880
Jessica, who got eliminated previously this
season, is now hooking up with Devin.

777
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,119
Yes, told Devin to pick Callum
because he was mean to her and

778
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:51,400
that's why he him picking Callum was
random. Interesting. Okay, wait,

779
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:58,000
who is Jessica tattooed girl that went
home? I think week one? Oh,

780
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,199
I was about to ask the same
question. She's with Devon now,

781
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:12,800
yes, all right, we go
for them. Well, she's the she's

782
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,800
the one who had all the tattoos. Yes, from Australia. Okay,

783
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:24,320
it's literally that. Just sorry I
missed I I couldn't hear that one of

784
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,800
those days. It's the tattooed girl
they got eliminated. Well, apparently I

785
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:42,039
miss tattoos. Tattoos. Her brain
is already in austra No, I still

786
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:49,679
have a week alright, so it's
not the Corey looks really happy about this

787
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,079
third option being pulled. H Emmanuel
also looks really happy about this third option,

788
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:58,519
but getting pulled because apparently he and
Devon have become friends since their elimination,

789
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,800
which I'm not surprised by. Devin
calls everybody up there, l seven

790
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:09,079
weenies, has a an L on
his forehead, and I just this is

791
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:12,920
the ship that I love, he
says, the Corneus ship. But I

792
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,599
love it. It's great. I
love Devin and I love even when he

793
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:19,400
called that Calum, he just did
it really like, super nonchalantly, and

794
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,679
it took a few seconds for it. Even what, what did you just

795
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:28,480
say? Why did you pick Calum? It seems like everybody knows what they

796
00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:31,960
want, so Calum came on down, let's do it. What? Oh,

797
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,679
I loved it? It was great? He yeah, I love it.

798
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:45,639
Michelle is fucking pissed. She is
piss literal daggers come. Yeah,

799
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:52,719
she is heated. She should have
said a name. Then she should have

800
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:58,280
said and said not him. She
should have said an affirmative who she wanted.

801
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,920
Yeah, because if she and Devon
are such good friends, then he

802
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:06,280
may have actually taken her suggestion if
she had thrown an actual name out there.

803
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:15,440
Yeah. So the elimination is called
totally mental. There are woolfey,

804
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:20,079
do you want to do this one. Sure, there's a bunch of crates.

805
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,639
You have to grab your crate,
line them all up from one to

806
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:25,320
ten, open them up. There's
a bunch of shit inside. Got to

807
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,079
count them, write the number on
the lid, and then rearrange them in

808
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:37,320
numerical order. Yep. Yeah,
so this is an elimination of dragging shit

809
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:43,000
around and counting stuff. What what
are these producers thinking bringing in these vets

810
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:46,320
like the what we're supposed to be
excited about and looking forward to, and

811
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:52,199
they're gonna watch us, We're gonna
watch people count What is going on with

812
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:57,239
this show? Like you said,
they want to customize these for the veterans,

813
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,960
and Devin doesn't have that many skills, so counting they could have.

814
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:04,400
They could have thrown so many different
puzzles out there and Devin would have kicked

815
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,159
ass. This was a weird one
to do, like they should have thrown

816
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:12,079
an actual puzzle. Yeah, this
is not an actual puzzle. We've seen

817
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:15,960
puzzles be like tense and exciting to
watch them solve them. This was not.

818
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:21,280
This is counting, literal counting of
a bunch of shit. So this

819
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,880
was not exciting. And not only
was it counting of a bunch of shit.

820
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,880
But they both had the same they
both had boxes of the same A

821
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,000
number. Yeah, so I just
yeah, you could. We saw them

822
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,039
multiple times. They talked about it
in their talking heads. They are cheating

823
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,880
off each other at the entire game. Mm hmmm, yeah, it's weird.

824
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,880
Like I it makes me kind of
now that we're talking about them tailoring

825
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,239
eliminations to the to the people.
I wonder if CT is gonna get Not

826
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,480
So Fast. Oh that'd be great
if he did. I fucking love Not

827
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:55,719
So Fast. And when CT plays
that game, it is one of my

828
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,280
favorites to watch. Yeah, so
I wonder. I mean, I feel

829
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,760
like this could be a great time
to bring back the backpack challenge. Ooh,

830
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,559
he would backpack literally every single person
up there, except for maybe James

831
01:01:08,599 --> 01:01:12,880
and Corey. I was gonna say, James is a big daddy. But

832
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,159
wouldn't that be like great television for
producers to show No, because it's just

833
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:21,039
everybody's gonna watch it and go,
why are you doing this? It's never

834
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:22,800
gonna be as good as the Johnny
Bananas backpack. This is just lame.

835
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:30,079
They should have brought back the light
Bright challenge between Devin and Banana. Yeah,

836
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:31,280
yeah, that would have been a
good one. That was because that

837
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,960
was strategy. That was a puzzle, but it was also really fun to

838
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,679
watch. I remember being very tense
during the elimination. Very fun to watch,

839
01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:43,480
yep. And it was also endurance. Yeah, and strategy. I

840
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:45,920
mean there was a lot of a
lot to that one. It was a

841
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,199
fun one. Yeah. It's it's
very weird to me that they bring back

842
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:52,920
someone who is so good at puzzles
and they give him something where they're counting.

843
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:58,360
Yeah, Like there are multiple people
who in this episode who were like,

844
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:02,159
I learned how to count kindergarten?
Why is this a thing? Yeah,

845
01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:06,840
And I agree with him. It
was weird. Uh, then everybody's

846
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,880
fucking counting along with Callum. That
would have drove you. Oh, I

847
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,360
would have been pissed. It was
kind of like, shut up. I

848
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,239
thought that Callum might have had a
leg up at the very beginning when Devon

849
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,599
pulls his first box off of his
stack and drops it to the ground and

850
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:27,000
it just shatters pieces everywhere, and
then later on we see Callum kick one

851
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,079
of those pieces to the other end
of the arena. I didn't know if

852
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:37,159
Devon was going to catch that or
not. Yeah, someone up there told

853
01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:40,280
him that there was a piece over
there. Yeah. I do wonder like

854
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,760
he could have legit hidden that thing
some somehow buried in the scene, like

855
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,519
done something. Yeah, but he
didn't. I would have kicked like four

856
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:52,639
of them as far out of the
ring as possible. Yeah, I don't

857
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:57,599
know. I wouldn't even I wouldn't
have even necessarily kicked him out of the

858
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,440
ring. I would have tried to
kick him behind my box or like,

859
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,440
you know, pretend like I can't
see it, maybe set the box on

860
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,119
top of it or something like that, like something where you're really hiding it.

861
01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:09,119
Yeah, shove it up your ass. I mean, go for it.

862
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,039
I don't know that they're gonna allow
that on TV, but go for

863
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:19,519
it. They can edit that out. They don't show us everything. Um.

864
01:03:20,679 --> 01:03:24,079
Both people, both of them call
for check Devin first, Callum almost

865
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:29,159
immediately afterwards, and both of them
are wrong. We get a quick talking

866
01:03:29,199 --> 01:03:31,840
head from Nourice saying that she wants
Devon to win, which I found kind

867
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:38,239
of interesting. I'm gonna guess she's
getting rid of someone else on the other

868
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:43,760
alliance, but it's also getting rid
of ten thousand dollars. Uh. And

869
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,280
then they call for check again and
Callum is wrong and Devon is not,

870
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:55,840
so Devin wins. Yep, well
done, Devin boo. Michelle looks very

871
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:02,880
upset, but Callum gets to go
home to his girlfriend, and then Devon

872
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,880
and his little speech. We get
a talking head right after this, and

873
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:11,400
he says, you know, I'm
Noster Damis, but I think Mariah is

874
01:04:11,559 --> 01:04:15,480
banging this tall guy mm hmmm.
And he wonders how the banana man is

875
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,239
going to feel about it. And
I wonder if he turned around and immediately

876
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:26,880
got home and called up mister Johnny
Bananas and said, Yo, this girl

877
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:32,960
that you're whatever with is got something
new he did? You know? Mariah

878
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:38,639
basically confirmed it on Twitter that yes, Den Devin was the one that notified

879
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:42,400
Johnny Devin's a big chaos guy.
If he didn't know, oh yeah,

880
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:45,199
I mean that's that's the other reason
why I think he was perfect for this

881
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,639
forward to come onto this season as
a mercenary because he does. He loves

882
01:04:50,679 --> 01:05:00,320
the chaos. He loves to stir
it up. Yep. Is this the

883
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,320
time we're going to talk about Mariah
cheating on bananas? Yeah, that's the

884
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,639
end of the episode, all Right, how do we feel about Mariah and

885
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:13,000
Bananas? So she said earlier on
in the season that they are not officially

886
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:19,360
anything. They have just been a
whatever for the last six eight months,

887
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:25,559
situationship. I believe they call that
in the forty plus dating world. I

888
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:29,400
believe, she says for the past
years. Yeah. Yeah, So,

889
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:33,840
I mean, if it really is
just a situationship, then I don't look

890
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:39,920
at it as her cheating on Bananas. If they did actually have an agreement

891
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:45,039
that they were something more than a
situationship, then yeah, girl, you

892
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:49,079
kind of fucked up there. But
being that it's against Johnny Bananas, he

893
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:54,119
has cheated on almost of your girlfriend. He's head with people in the Challenge

894
01:05:54,119 --> 01:05:57,199
House, so it just feels like
a little bit of his own medicine.

895
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,679
Yeah. My understanding is both of
them are sort of yeah, we didn't

896
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:04,119
define the relationship and it's fine.
Like even Bananas was not upset about this.

897
01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:06,679
I mean, who gives a fuck. I mean, Zach, you

898
01:06:06,679 --> 01:06:11,119
would know more than me. But
I don't think I don't think even Banana's

899
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:14,920
cares. I don't think that either
of the consider this cheating. I thought

900
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,920
i'd heard it a little bit different. I had heard that Johnny actually wanted

901
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,280
it to be a more, you
know, stable, monogamous thing, and

902
01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:24,239
she was the one that was presidant
about it. I think she even mentioned

903
01:06:24,239 --> 01:06:27,719
that in one of the early episodes, and then came mentioned the chat.

904
01:06:27,719 --> 01:06:30,599
There's a big rumor going around that
Bananas was originally supposed to be one of

905
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:34,679
the mercenaries this season, and once
s Deevin notified him with Mariah, Bananz

906
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,679
is like, I don't want to
see her, I don't want to see

907
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:43,119
him. I'm out. I well, let's read what Let's read what she

908
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,800
said, which was he backed out
because he knew they would use it as

909
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,079
a story Yeah. I could see
him backing up because they would use it

910
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:51,480
as a storyline. I don't think
he's as altruistic as I don't want to.

911
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,559
I guess it's not really altru I
don't think that he is. He's

912
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:59,119
the type to back out just because
he doesn't want to see the other girl

913
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,639
or the the other guy. I
don't know. I mean, I don't

914
01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:05,639
feel like Bananas is the type of
person that's gonna be like, wait,

915
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,719
this is gonna give me a storyline
and TV time like no, I don't

916
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:14,519
want that. Yeah, I don't
know what to think of that. You

917
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:17,159
think he's but you think he's the
type of guy to back off because he

918
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:21,599
doesn't want to see the other guy. Like, I call your bluff,

919
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:27,599
Zach. Remember when he didn't want
to be on screen talking to non Yes

920
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:32,239
get mad, so he specifically stood
in the doorway where the camera wouldn't see

921
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,480
him. Yeah, that was such
a weird part of that one episode.

922
01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:41,199
Yeah, yes, that is they
were just talking. They weren't even doing

923
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:45,960
anything. They were literally just talking. He's like, my girlfriend will get

924
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:50,840
mad at me tv M. Yeah. But Zach, I will say,

925
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:56,199
even even if it was Mariah that
didn't want to commit more deeply, it

926
01:07:56,199 --> 01:07:59,000
seems like they had in a like
they had talked about it, they had

927
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,760
a conversation about it. Then they
agreed that they are not labeling this relationship.

928
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:08,079
And maybe Bananas wanted more. Maybe
his feelings are hurt. But I'm

929
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:12,960
not sure Muri did anything wrong.
Maybe I don't know. I know before

930
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,159
Alison and our day that we went
through a period of time where we were

931
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:19,159
a situationship, So like had she
done something or had I done something?

932
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:23,319
Way been she didn't know, but
we also both you know, discussed at

933
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:27,359
that time, like we wouldn't just
go sleep with someone else without discussing with

934
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,920
the other person or something like,
you know, it would be like it

935
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:35,039
that'd just be rude to one another. If you're discussing having to be with

936
01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:38,760
someone else, that feels like that's
more than a situationship. But you know

937
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,760
whatever, that's just me. Yeah, no, but I think that's right

938
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,239
though. I mean, if they
if they had a conversation and Mariah said

939
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:51,640
like, no, we're not gonna
be more than we are and Alison,

940
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:59,199
oh, no, for for Bananas
and Mariah, if they really did if

941
01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:02,520
it really was to stay situationship,
if she had communicated with him that she

942
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,319
doesn't want more than that, like
okay, cool. His feelings might be

943
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:11,960
hurt and it might suck for that
reason, but she didn't do anything wrong.

944
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:14,279
That's where I'm at. Yeah,
Bananas might be hurt, but she

945
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:18,560
didn't do any wrong. But it'll
get played up that she's the horror of

946
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:24,640
Babylon. Oh, because she's a
woman, and women who sleep with other

947
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,600
men on any men on this show
are always played up as the horror.

948
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:33,439
But we can we can not do
that right. Oh yeah, we can

949
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,760
guide that conversation to a healthier place
than that. Yes, no, we

950
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,399
should definitely not do that. I'm
just saying, and I think in the

951
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:45,720
show that's always what happens, because
I will always go back to the season

952
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:51,960
when Corey won the Player of the
Year award directly after they crucified Tory for

953
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:58,199
sleeping with someone. Which I never
had a problem with Toy doing whatever she

954
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:02,479
wanted. The problem I had is
she was like, she cheated on Corey

955
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:11,520
other Corey Corey, or was Derek
Derek cheated on Derek with Jordan, and

956
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,720
so then I was like, oh, well, just fucking break up with

957
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,239
them. Yeah, I mean I
agree with that, but I also like,

958
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:23,079
if you haven't actively talked to him
for three months and then you come

959
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:26,960
home and immediately break up with him
when you get there, Like, I

960
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,439
get that technically she was cheating on
him. I don't know it felt.

961
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,760
Well, I'm saying, get on
the phone. You're like, oh,

962
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,800
yeah, she definitely should have gotten
on the phone and said, hey,

963
01:10:35,039 --> 01:10:39,199
I'm done. I'm not saying wait
three months. I'm saying, get on

964
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:41,640
the phone, be like this isn't
working. Yeah, and then you just

965
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,279
do whatever. So someone did like
tweet to Mariah saying, you know,

966
01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:48,079
like you guys weren't officially shouldn't have
you know, don't feel bad, you

967
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:51,920
did nothing wrong. Mariah's the official
response that was, I never said I

968
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,119
was in the right. I said
multiple times on camera. Although I'm not

969
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:59,960
in a relationship with him, it
still is not okay and against my moral

970
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:04,079
and I'm not proud of it.
I've admitted that so many times hurt his

971
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:09,159
feelings. Yeah, I don't think
that I was against what we're saying.

972
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,640
Has Banana said anything on Twitter or
anything? Has Has he said anything publicly?

973
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:17,439
I don't see anything today or yesterday. I know a couple of weeks

974
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:25,560
ago, I think he said something
about the situation. Let's see Mike the

975
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:30,960
situation. Yeah, because only spent
half a million dollars on cocaine and box

976
01:11:30,039 --> 01:11:35,920
coat on Oh popped up on my
feed recently. The miz did no MIC's

977
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:44,800
situation Jersey Jersey. I don't care
about that neither do I just miss one

978
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,840
of the headlines that popped up.
Yeah, because really Banana's input is the

979
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,800
only one that matters. We're speculating
on stuff and you know, whatever it's

980
01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:56,479
if Bananas isn't upset, neither of
mine, Like, there's no reason to

981
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,039
be. She's a free woman.
She can do whatever she wants. I

982
01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:02,000
mean, even if Banana is upset, I'm still not upset. But I

983
01:12:02,039 --> 01:12:06,039
don't care. He has he has
done this to so many people before.

984
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:12,239
I feel absolutely nothing for him.
And Kay in the chairm says Callum is

985
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:15,279
a whore, which we've talked about, that what he's doing is obviously clearly

986
01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:17,760
wrong. So look, we can
we can get, which I feel like

987
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,760
has been said on this podcast before. But Callum feels like the new bear.

988
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:24,039
He does seem sort of like a
piece of shit kind of guy,

989
01:12:25,159 --> 01:12:28,600
as someone who just got cheated on
about a year ago. It sucks,

990
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,720
I can imagine. Just make sure
you're clear with your intentions. Yeah,

991
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:39,439
I'm checking his sheet, I'm checking
when asked Twitter, I'm not seeing him

992
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:46,640
have any comment about it. Kay
wants me to rate this episode, yes,

993
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,680
zero, zero out of ten this
whole season. This is the worst

994
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:55,479
fucking season, right, This season
is terrible. I hate all the players.

995
01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:58,479
I just hate it all. I
want the vets. I want vets.

996
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,159
I need vets. But we got
we got to push through it so

997
01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:04,279
that we can get to all starts
four and forty. I hope they pull

998
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:09,119
out some stops and forty make forty
good. This is all this is.

999
01:13:09,279 --> 01:13:12,560
This whole cast is B and C
characters. I don't care about any of

1000
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:21,199
them. Yeah, it is a
bit of a bummer. Yeah anyway,

1001
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,600
but hey, what you can do
is you can go to challenge pod dot

1002
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,600
com, join the Facebook group.
You can let us know what you think

1003
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,680
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1004
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,199
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1005
01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:41,520
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1006
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:46,840
content, hours and hours that Carlyn
listens to on repeat, talking about horror

1007
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:53,439
movies and my dating life, lots
of stupid. Oh yeah, we talk

1008
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,880
about food a lot. Yeah,
there was a there was a point in

1009
01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:00,479
time where it was it was a
pretty consistent like every episode the well Zach

1010
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,479
food people were eating. No this
is before Zach oh, okay, Zach,

1011
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:12,800
Zach, Me and Tim were talking
once recently that uh, we should

1012
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,119
we should take you out for sushi
and make you eat sushi. And you

1013
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:24,199
guys don't even eat sushi. So
I eat sushi. I would eat it.

1014
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:26,720
Why the fuck am I getting lumped
into this? I eat sushi all

1015
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,399
the goddamn time. How dare you
sushi right fucking now on camera. I

1016
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,079
don't eat sushi, but I would. I'm not like, whatever I eat,

1017
01:14:33,119 --> 01:14:36,680
I would eat it. That's fine. No, I just I need

1018
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,079
you guys to come to Minneapolis and
we'll go for sushi. Actually, we

1019
01:14:40,119 --> 01:14:42,960
all need to go to Denver and
we'll go for sushi. Why wouldn't we

1020
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,079
go to like a coastal town.
I'm going to all these fucking places thousands

1021
01:14:46,119 --> 01:14:51,000
of miles away from water. Denver's
got spectacular sushi. I'm just saying Denver

1022
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:56,199
because I know all the sushi places
in Denver. I guess we're going to

1023
01:14:56,279 --> 01:14:59,479
Japan. Here we go. Cool? Is Patreon paying for that one too?

1024
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:01,560
Yeah? I just got a little
save up for like seven years and

1025
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:08,279
we'll do it. We also say
your name, So thank you to Alvin,

1026
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:11,920
Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Emily, Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie

1027
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,119
Martez, Patti, Roldan, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah, Scott,

1028
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:25,760
Seth Shak and Stean. Thanks guys, Thank you everyone. Buddy,

1029
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,039
Yes, we do have you not
been reading them on the show. No,

1030
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:31,880
I have. We should only be
one this week. Okay, cool

1031
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:38,319
Zachi Bananas two point zero? You're
ready for a Zach? I'm scared.

1032
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,960
JD Lunar once has loved the show, been listening for years. It is

1033
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,399
my go to challenge podcast, Zach. I'm a Johnny fan also, so

1034
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:53,239
I totally get it. I'm in
Ohio and we'll totally send cash. I

1035
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:56,960
don't know what that means any hints
on that one. We were talking about

1036
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,319
something. What did we Oh?
I know, but Johnny and my my

1037
01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:02,640
Girlsen lives like ten minutes from the
Ohio border. Let's get together. Let's

1038
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:10,439
hang out. Yeah, do it? JD Lunar He or she also wants

1039
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,600
to know how to listen live so
they can be involved in the chat.

1040
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,640
You have to be part of the
Facebook group, the Patreon or part of

1041
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,000
the discord. Yeah, and listen
to it for free. You don't have

1042
01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:29,880
to be or send us your email
address and we'll notify you when it goes.

1043
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,720
Oh jeez, I'm not going to
do that. Well you can,

1044
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,680
you can. You can do it
through a riverside. Oh okay, you

1045
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:40,079
can set a notification through oh nice. Okay, yeah, so do that

1046
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,439
join the Facebook group. That's the
free way. Patreon and Discord you both

1047
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,560
have to pay money. I didn't
mention that, but you do get access

1048
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,000
to the Discord with that five dollars
month Patreon thing. And I mean Wilfy

1049
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:51,319
and Zach are on there, Carlin, where are you? I'm on there?

1050
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:57,880
I just don't participate most Hey,
we do have other socials that we

1051
01:16:58,119 --> 01:17:02,960
do not ever ever gets. So
if there's a preferred social network, maybe

1052
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:08,840
we should start posting links. I
guess, I guess, but not Twitter.

1053
01:17:10,039 --> 01:17:13,800
I mean my preferred is Instagram,
but I don't know. You can

1054
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,079
manage the Instagram account done, I
already have. I have. Carlin just

1055
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:23,439
volunteered for Carlin just volunteered. You
guys all heard it. Hey wants us

1056
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:29,840
to join only fans who says I
haven't already? Yeah, I subscribed as

1057
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:36,199
Ax I mean Wolfes, I mean, I mean Fetish sixty. It's my

1058
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:43,119
favorite. So this can be a
surprise to everybody because this is not something

1059
01:17:43,119 --> 01:17:51,760
we normally do on Spotify. People
can ask questions on each episode. How

1060
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:57,119
do we get the questions? They're
email to us? And we had one

1061
01:17:57,159 --> 01:18:00,520
last week and I completely forgot.
Oh nice, so I to make sure

1062
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,520
I remember this week. And this
was posted on episode one of this season.

1063
01:18:05,039 --> 01:18:09,800
I said the first from Simone,
the first daily was boring. It

1064
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,800
was too similar to the first daily
challenge of Invasions. So far, I

1065
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,520
don't like the format of having to
commete to win prize money. I wonder

1066
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:24,119
if Simone has changed their thought process
so far as the season's gone on.

1067
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:27,720
Let us know. Yeah, that's
kind of neat that they can interact from

1068
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,000
there. I have a little,
a fun little tidbit. When I was

1069
01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:35,640
home for Thanksgiving, I found out
that one of my best friends brother in

1070
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,600
laws is a huge fan of the
challenge. Oh no, shit, yeah.

1071
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:45,119
And I was talking to her her
husband about this because I mentioned that

1072
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:47,399
I have started doing the podcast with
you guys and he was cracking up.

1073
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,920
So yeah, my brother Travis is
super into it. So hi Travis,

1074
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:58,520
if you're there. Yep. But
message like left their house and immediately shot

1075
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,199
him a message on Instagram. I'm
like, hey, dude, this may

1076
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:03,479
not be up your alley, you
may not care at all, but just

1077
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:08,479
in case, we've got this really
fun podcast that we do. If if

1078
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,880
you're interested, Oh, he wasn't
there. You didn't talk about it in

1079
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,720
person. Yeah, yeah, he
wasn't there in person, But it just

1080
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,600
it It made me. It made
me giggle because I was like, Oh,

1081
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,760
I don't feel quite so alone in
my friend group. People that actually

1082
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,760
like the Challenge, people I'm friends
with on Facebook, who like, I've

1083
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,560
never met. It's just they probably
in front of me from drunken zombie movie

1084
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:40,479
stuff for whatever, was posting once
about Oh my wife watches this fucking terrible

1085
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,880
show called the Challenge, So I
made sure to post a link in his

1086
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:50,119
comments. But tell your wife to
stop buy and say Hi, that doesn't

1087
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:57,800
sound weird and creepy at all.
Nope, So if hopefully his wife is

1088
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:08,319
listening, Oh goodness, well,
uh zech any social media stuff, nothing

1089
01:20:08,399 --> 01:20:12,680
major going on. We do have
Melissa and Big t continuing their fight with

1090
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,159
Corey. Uh. They were bashing
him while the episode was airing, and

1091
01:20:16,199 --> 01:20:19,479
then quite cry tried to call them
out, being like, you know,

1092
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,039
like, oh, we've been good
friends for like, you know, months

1093
01:20:23,079 --> 01:20:25,840
now, like after a show,
like, why are you acting like this?

1094
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,439
You're being so fake? And so
Melissa and Big Tea both just posted

1095
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,039
their like dms with him showing that
they have been like mad at him the

1096
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:38,279
entire time, and he was lying
that they were friendly. He's so fucking

1097
01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:42,800
terrible at this. Something he's trying
to like call someone out or like did

1098
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,479
I ever do anything wrong to you
or whatever, like it fucking blows up

1099
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,479
in his face. Yeah. I
on the challenge subreddit that people were linking

1100
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,000
to those conversations and stuff. So
I did read through them, and it

1101
01:20:53,039 --> 01:20:56,880
sure does seem like Corey is just
like a piece of shit guy. Yeah,

1102
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,920
and the receipts totally backed up what
they said that they were trying to

1103
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,359
reach out and make amends and Corey
was ignoring them, and Corey picked and

1104
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:08,920
Chow chose like these literally specific things
to post. And Yeah, I think

1105
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:13,399
Corey made a lot of enemies this
episode, I believe on the cast and

1106
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,399
the Yeah, he thought he was
on an island the last few episodes.

1107
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:20,720
This next episode is going to be
rough for him. Yeah, I'm guessing

1108
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:27,239
he's he's the house vote every episode
until well, a woman's right, so

1109
01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:29,960
we got we got him at least
two more weeks. Yeah, it looks

1110
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,359
like we're doing Casey next week.
Oh, I didn't watch the Coming Soon

1111
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,880
what I did watch the coming scene. It looked like a dude was coming

1112
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:43,600
out. No, it looked like
Casey. I thought it was yeah.

1113
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,359
Yeah, it seems like they would
go, they would alternate. I would

1114
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:49,960
think, yeah, so what I
which is why I was surprised. It

1115
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:54,279
looked like I thought it was fucking
CT was coming out. I was definitely

1116
01:21:54,319 --> 01:21:59,439
not, what is wrong with you? They're building Casey? What the fuck

1117
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,359
is Casey? Who is Casey?
Oh? K C? Literally, I

1118
01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:08,520
was thinking Casey. Her name is
c A s Y. It's k A

1119
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:13,479
y cee, right, yeah,
yeah, yeah Casey. I was thinking

1120
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,640
Casey, Casey like the gas station, not Casey like gotcha, No,

1121
01:22:17,039 --> 01:22:25,239
k C like Nanni's fiance. Yeah, I'm gonna have to rewatch the coming

1122
01:22:25,279 --> 01:22:28,239
soon because that is not what I
picked up from. It looked like a

1123
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:31,560
dude to me, So I don't
know. I mean because all I shaw

1124
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,479
was like the back of the head
and shoulders. I thought it was yeah,

1125
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:39,560
but there's a They show a blurry
front at one point in time,

1126
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:45,399
and it it looks like her build
because everybody on the stage was going fucking

1127
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,520
apes. Yeah, that's why I
thought it was CT. Like Jesus,

1128
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:53,279
I think Casey is Nobody loves Casey. Nobody loves Casey that I think they

1129
01:22:53,359 --> 01:22:56,560
do. I think the players do. I think the players love her,

1130
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,199
same with Josh. The fans don't
seem to like them or care, but

1131
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:05,119
the players really seem to good.
Yeah. I don't have an impression of

1132
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:10,600
Casey despite seeing her on like seven
seasons or however long it's been. But

1133
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,159
when I watch like the random Instagram
stories that are linked from like Facebook and

1134
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:17,640
stuff or the challenge, I really
do like her. She seems personal and

1135
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,600
warm and fun and friendly, and
it's like, where is this person on

1136
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,960
the show? She's fucking boring on
the show most of the time, right,

1137
01:23:25,039 --> 01:23:29,600
That's yeah. Yeah, anyway,
case as CT is last, but

1138
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,079
that would still be out of order
because Jordan was first. Well he's the

1139
01:23:34,119 --> 01:23:38,840
last thing. I'm he'll be the
last thing. Carl will probably be the

1140
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,079
last woman. Yeah, yeah,
so I was. I was thinking about

1141
01:23:42,119 --> 01:23:45,079
this earlier when Zach, when you
were talking about Devon being kind of a

1142
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:49,279
letdown, Like I get that we
want a lot of the big heavy hitters,

1143
01:23:49,279 --> 01:23:53,399
and that Devin may not seem like
a big heavy hitters heavy hitter,

1144
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,119
but they let off with Jordan for
a very big reason, like he is

1145
01:23:57,159 --> 01:24:00,439
a massive impact. It really shows
up immediately they like, this is what

1146
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,000
we're gonna put you through, and
then it's kind of it kind of has

1147
01:24:04,039 --> 01:24:09,800
a little bit of a lull because
I think Casey is still a relatively beatable

1148
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:16,159
person. And then you finish it
out with uh Kara and CT like it's

1149
01:24:16,319 --> 01:24:23,039
a big final finale. So I
mean it's good. I mean, I

1150
01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:26,640
think Casey is beatable, but I
think, you know, between like Tory

1151
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,960
and Kaz, I think Casey is
by far the most intimidating woman that has

1152
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:36,119
been there yet as a mercenary.
She's not gonnat puzzles she I don't think

1153
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:43,079
so. Okay, but if we
are going, you know, with the

1154
01:24:43,079 --> 01:24:46,840
theory that they're you know, making
these eliminations fit the competitor. She's a

1155
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,760
former football player. She's getting like
a hall brawler wrestling or something. But

1156
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,960
she can just something. If she
gets something physical, then yeah, she

1157
01:24:55,119 --> 01:25:00,520
will be a someone to be reckoned
with. But if she doesn't get something

1158
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,640
physical, I don't know that she
would be a shoe in for that.

1159
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:14,680
Yeah. Hey, good time,
So all right, does you may anything

1160
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,520
else before we wrap up the actual
episode. What are we at time wise?

1161
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:23,479
Hour and a half. Oh,
poor Tim, not even close,

1162
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,119
not even close. Next week,
next week, No, never gonna happen.

1163
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:30,960
We'll do it well. Thanks everybody
for listening. As always, I

1164
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,840
am Brian, Big Uncle, Sweet
Tea, Carl and San Diego, Zachie

1165
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:41,079
Bananas, and as Manuel said,
I called you all here for a nice

1166
01:25:41,199 --> 01:26:00,239
round of butthole kissing Eat Eat,
murder Eat four