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Cha'll May thirty, twenty twenty four,

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allegedly according to that thing we call
a calendar, this the O'Kelly effect.

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You hearing us, most likely hearing
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on a Thor's Day, and what
an interesting Thor's day it is. Apparently

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first time I ever heard of this
former US president convicted of felonies, thirty

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four of them in fact in New
York. Now we'll get into my analysis

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and what that really means later sometime. Maybe I'll wait till tomorrow because I've

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got Mike Swanson with me from Wallstreet
Window dot com, the author of the

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War State, the author of Why
the Vietnam War. Now, Wallstreet Window

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sign up for the news lie that
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post which explains that it's being shut
down and all that. But Mike will

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be continuing to write, and I'm
really hoping that he's going to join me

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in Dallas on November twenty second this
year, So you know, there's a

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lot of stuff still going on.
But anyway, that's not the topic of

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tonight's discussion. Chuck, why are
you mentioning the JFK thing? Because I'm

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going to mention it all the way
up to November, That's why. And

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there might be a lot of surprises
as to who actually shows up at that

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particular event, and I'm working on
a few of them personally. So before

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I even talked to Mike, I
wanted to rewind it a couple of days.

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Why, Because I saw this coming. I knew we were going to

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have a verdict. I mean,
people were saying, Oh, the verdict

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won't be out till next week,
and blah blah blah. I said,

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no, no, no, this
is going to be a quick thing.

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They've already been dragged for many hours
with the closing statements and all that.

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The New York City thing what they
keep calling in the media of the hush

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money trial, although it's not really
about hush money. It's actually about business

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practices. Business practices that the Trump
organization and probably the majority of big business

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in New York City, a lot
of business practices that they might have done.

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You think these guys aren't using their
accountants to account for money in places

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where it doesn't necessarily belong, which
to me is the thrust of this whole

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alleged thing that he allegedly did.
And I still say allegedly because I guarantee

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you one thing, despite the fact
that you have a conviction on thirty four

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counts today and there's supposed to be
sentencing in July. This is not a

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done deal. This is not the
way it's going to stand, whether it

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is on appeal or it is through
some other mechanism, or a verdict is

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set aside, or somebody starts doing
exploratory explorations and investigations into the jury and

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how proper, improper this or that
or the third thing was, or did

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the judge's daughter go ahead and make
some money through the Democratic Party, et

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cetera. All of that is part
of the circus. How do we know

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that this is a massive circus.
Well, if you listen to me and

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you take any of what I say
seriously, you already knew it. But

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when Bobby de Niro, yeah,
that Bobby de Niro showed up in New

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York City on the twenty eighth and
held a press conference, and everybody you

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know on the Fox side of the
world was definitely stressing this was part of

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the Biden campaign efforts, and he
was even confronted by Trump's supporters during the

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presser. I'm gonna play a little
bit of it for you before I even

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talked to Mike. Mike, hang
on, because I know you got a

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lot to say, and you're gonna
explain some stuff that's probably not in the

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big headlines at the moment. But
I'm gonna tackle this headline first by rewinding

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a couple of days and going back
to May twenty eighth, when De Niro

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was on the street and somebody couldn't
control their car alarm and Trump's supporters were

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milling around the Democratic press conference that
was going on, with Bobby de Niro

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up front and a couple of former
DC police people behind him. This is

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my neighborhood, downtown New York City. I grew up here and feel at

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home in these streets. I feel
comfortable. The Twin Towers fell just over

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here, just over there, this
part of the city was like a ghost

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tower. But we vowed we would
not allow terrorists to change our way of

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life, and we started the Tribeca
Festival to bring people back. I love

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this city. I love this city. I don't want to destroy it.

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Donald Trump wants to destroy not only
the city, but the country, and

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eventually he could destroy the world.
But we vowed we would not allow terrorists

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do. I owe the city a
lot. And that's why it's so weird

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that Donald Trump is just across the
street because he doesn't belong in my city.

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I don't know where he belongs,
but he surely doesn't belong here.

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We New Yorkers used to tolerate him
when he was just another grubby real estate

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hustler masquerading as a big shot,
a two big playboy, lying his way

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into the tabloids, pretending to be
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He was calling it as himself for
himself to fool the press into inflating his

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net worth. A clown. But
this city is pretty accommodating. We make

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room for clouds. We have them
all over the city. People who do

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crazy things in the street we tolerated. It's part of the city of the

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culture. But not a person like
Trump poill eventually run the country. That

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does not work, and we all
know that. Anyway, we make grou

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up of clowns to each his own, but no one takes him or took

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him really seriously. Now, I
find this all very funny, and I'm

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going to fast forward to another part
in this de Niro's statement. You definitely

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get a hint of where de Niro's
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note about something. You know how
everybody's talking about the cognitive abilities of mister

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Trump and mister Biden at this point
in time, and I've definitely made lots

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of references to both of them being
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anything other than yelling at squirrels from
their porch. No offense to my listener

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ed out on the West Coast,
but because ed Ed loves his squirrels,

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but he's not yelling at squirrels and
thinking they're his kids or something. Okay,

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we've seen that in other neighborhoods.
But let's go to a later part

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of this suppresson one sec a later
part of this presser with sorry commercial jumped

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in on me out of nowhere with
de Niro, when all of a sudden

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he gets confronted by a Trump supporter
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Again, you can tell where what
the direction is here. I find

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it ironic that de Niro says,
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tolerate clowns in New York. In
New York, they generally ignore people unless

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you're killing somebody or dying. And
even then, you know the old joke,

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who was it one of the stand
up comedians. I'm not going to

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try and remember who was said.
You know, this is New York cpr'.

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Here's how it works. You know, if you're laying on the ground

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and you're suffocating for air, somebody
stands over and goes, get up before

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you ef and die. That's about
it. Uh, you know these things

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are all true. New York people
can pass by, be dressed wildly,

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be wild individuals, and be clowns
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They're just there. They're just part
of the background. It is what it

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is. So the idea that clowns
stand out in New York, I can't

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stand with you, Bobby. They
don't anyway. Let's go back to de

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Niro's comments, and when somebody starts
to talk to him about stuff democracy,

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they are the true heroes. Okay, he's saying the true heroes. And

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he's talking about the former DC cops
and don't worry, I'm almost done with

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this clip. But he's talking about
the former DC cops, Mike Fanon,

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who's been out there on the media
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He's referencing them, turning to them, pointing to them, all that.

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And he's talking about January sixth,
which, according to de Niro and

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a lot of his public statements,
fascinating that he's very concerned about this and

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how our democracy is in trouble,
you know, very much on the left

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wing side of things here de Niro
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you know, let's see, Biden
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seventy seven, and de Niro's eighty. De Niro is still able to speak

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pretty well, unlike either one of
the other guys who you know, if

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you if you actually try to read
what Trump says, it's a little hard

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to read Biden. I mean,
come on, man, how many you

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know? I don't even need to
pick on this. Can he get through

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a sentence? Can he get through
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I mean, they were talking about
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in the trial all week. But
anyway, let me get through this

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so I can get to Mike Swanson
because there's more news to cover that nobody

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else is going to cover. We're
going to do it here, but let's

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just finish up with this confrontation with
the NERO and a Trump supporter during this

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pressure. These guys are the true
heroes. They stood and put their lives

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on the line for these low lives
for Trump. They lie under oath that

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we all take for granted. This
is not a threat, this is a

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reality. And that's why I've joined
the Biden Harris campaign because the only way

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to preserve our freedoms and hold on
to our humanity is to vote for Joe

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Biden for president. Really too,
we don't have a choice. On January

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sixth, while Republican lawmakers despicably tried
to keep the loser Trump, the loser

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Trump in the White House and Trump
inspired insurrectionists stormed the Capitol, brave men

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and women from law enforcement put their
lives on the line to defend this country,

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our democracy. They are the true
heroes. These guys are the true

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heroes. They stood and put their
lives on the line for these low lives

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for Trump. They lie under out. Okay, now I'm telling you two

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things. One, I know the
beeping carl A arm is killing you.

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But this guy tried a couple of
times. I don't know if the media

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picked up on it, but I
can hear it. He tried a couple

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of times to call them liars and
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and this and that. Now he's
finally stepped closer to the mic and de

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Niro can hear him, and now
he acknowledges him, and he says,

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these guys lied under oath. So
I know you heard the last time the

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guy said it, and he definitely
caught de Niro's attention. But here's the

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reaction. They lied under road.
What are you telling me? You do

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excuse me? They lied under road? What do you say those two traders

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behind you lied under oath. And
meanwhile, I don't blame either one of

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these guys were having a little trouble
being heard or hearing because the car alarms

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going off not too far away.
I mean, it's not right on top

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of him, but it is annoying. And I love how everybody's trying to

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tune it out during this presser,
and nobody says, hey, somebody,

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wait a minute, shut that thing
on. Nah, let's just go full

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speed with the car alarm and the
beeping. Anyway, here we go,

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trainer, they're traders, you gotta. I don't know. I don't even

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know how to deal with you,
my friend, I don't even know how

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to deal with you. They stood
there, they didn't have to, and

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there were other ones in there who
probably were in with them a little bit

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too, and they found a way
to get around. Not these guys.

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They stood there and fought for us, for you, for you. They

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weren't fighting for me, No,
No, they fought for you, buddy.

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You're able to stand right here now. They are the true heroes.

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I honored to be with these two
heroes today from former Capitol Police officer Harry

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Dunn and former Metropolitan Police officer Michael
Fanone. Okay, that's enough for that,

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because I can't take the car horns
no more. But you get the

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point here, And he does respond
to this guy and says, hey,

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look, man, you know they
lied on the roads. Buh buh,

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Hey, they fought for you.
De Niro taking on the you know where

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Americans were in it all together?
Law enforcement. I mean, de Niro

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is not a guy who attacks the
cops. He's definitely always been a police

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supporter and all that. But he's
also always been a liberal and a Democrat,

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so all of this kind of makes
sense. And he has been personally

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going after the whole Trump thing.
And DeNiro was okay when he was doing

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the anti vax thing. I don't
know if you guys remember, but he

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was at the front of trying to
make sure that people got to see the

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film Vaxed and all that. So
de Niro's all over the map when it

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comes to political alignments, but certainly
a liberal anyway. Doesn't matter about de

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Niro. I'm just trying to point
out how much of a circus we have.

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And then he turns it over to
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I forgot before in Finen and lets
them speak at this presser. And apparently

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this whole thing orchestrated partially by the
Biden campaign or de Niro working for the

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Biden campaign pulled out the name one
way or the other. This is what's

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happening on the streets of New York. And later I'll play a Trump's reaction

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to today's issue is this is again
from May twenty eighth. Anyway, Mike

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Swatson, I wanted you to hear
that clip because I wanted to give you

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an idea of what chaos in New
York is like when you're trying to have

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a press conference. Have you ever
seen anywhere else where people put up with

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the you know, the car alarm
and horn behind him and all that noise,

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and you know, the Trump supporter
gets close enough to the to the

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presser, you know, even though
it's being run by the Democrats across the

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street from the courthouse. I mean, this is Is this not a comical

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scene to you, Mike at all? Yeah, that's pretty unique. And

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I'll say I haven't really been following
stuff that closely, so I'm not watching

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the TV, and so I didn't
see this. This is new to me

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or hear it either. What I
did see though, is on Facebook.

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I load Facebook up because I see
a lot of local stuff on there,

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and I do remember seeing a meme
someone posted about the Niro and this press

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conference, and it was attacking him
and saying something like he's not the tough

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guy that he plays in the movies. Well, and he's also not a

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tough guy like Trump, and they
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a liberal. He's what the problem
is in the country. So you had

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to have seen that stuff circulating on
social media at the very least, because

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that's how I heard about it.
I wasn't watching it on TV. I

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had to go find the clip after
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this is what's been going on,
these moments of outrage, these outbursts on

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social media. So yeah, so
you heard about it the same way I

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did, except you picked up on
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to Facebook very often, but probably
I saw it on Twitter or something.

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But go ahead, Yeah, tell
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mean, I just it's just something
I saw and then I don't think I

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saw it again, you know.
And really that's what our what is becoming,

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or has become since before Trump.
He was just the tipping point,

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but our it's a whole other.
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think started to went through a phase. It's gone through multiple phases since we've

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been online, right and making content. I have one way or the other

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for for a long time. In
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social media stuff, Facebook in particular
really started to dominate. The Twitter,

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you know, was next. Well, let me set something up for you.

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If you don't mind, let me
just set this up for you,

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because here's the thing. We have
noticed the patterns of outrage and the outbursts

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and the anger of the moment,
right, A lot of that driven by

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social media. Sure it was happening
before Trump, but it got perfected during

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the Trump you know, run for
presidency, I think, and throughout his

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entire time in office. And yeah, people sure, like for example,

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people were saying that Trump was the
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you know Obama was using the internet, yeah, obviously, but yeah,

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and to my mind, yeah,
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but he didn't have the as an
effective tool. It was a big time

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effective tool for Trump. But you
know what, he was the first an

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old politician to be talking directly at
people. And nowadays every media, Yeah,

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nowadays, every politician, every world
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a part of a state you didn't
even know existed, you know, in

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Michigan, Oklahoma, somewhere else,
you know, not one of the big

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players. It's irrelevant. Everybody's on
Twitter now, everybody's out there. Okay,

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this is not your main focus.
You've never been the guy who's like

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involved in all the national politics.
Although I found it funny that you were

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a guy who voted for Trump,
you know, his first run. Okay,

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you admitted that on this show.
But you know, I almost wonder

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what you felt like when I was
yelling and screaming about it back then.

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concerned with the local stuff. You're
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home, which I think is smarter. Yeah, go ahead with the national

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stuff. I've come you know,
we've all gone through the past couple of

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years, and you know, everyone's
got caught up in this somehow or another

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that's watches the news and whatnot.
But at this point, and this news

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today has come out, you know, and like you said, this the

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outrage cycle and all this stuff.
You listen to Danira, Okay, Danira

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was saying that basically, I mean
it was he was about saying that Trump

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is a terrorist or the equivalent of
a terrorist. In the beginning of the

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clip, you played right. I
thought he was going to go from the

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towers Wallington. Now today we have
a terrorist right here across the street,

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which is funny again because look,
Mike, I'm not saying you were never

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interested in national politics. Of course
you were, but you were interested in

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national and international politics and the news
back when it was just that. Now

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that it's this divide and hate and
scream at each other and directly it's the

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thing about the social media stuff is
that I've been making content about the stock

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market for a very long time,
and I've seen how that world has changed

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in the past couple of years with
the rise of social media, where now

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so many people that are getting into
the stock market and trading there. They're

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look, I'll put it to you
an easier way on Facebook. I make

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it really simple for people instead of
going to some uncle convoluted thing. So

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on Facebook, I made a post
this morning, okay, and if I

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I can link to it, and
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chat actually so people can see it. I'm gonna try to do that because

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this is this is a good,
a crazy I think that will load up.

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I post this on a Facebook page, I think I think that image

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will load up in the in the
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is, yeah, I'll get it. I'll get it one way or another,

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like dot, don't worry about that. What anyway, what what I

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saw was a textbook from Korea for
children about a history textbook. Now,

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when we were young, the textbooks
were you know, had a lot of

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we basically didn't read them. You
know, they're boring and a lot of

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words and this stuff. But this
textbook is a history textbook and his cartoons

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about World War two. And it
was sort of like a quiz and I

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just describe its people don't have to
actually look at it. But it says,

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how did the war end? How
did World War two end? Find

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the right check the right box.
And there's four images, okay, And

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one has a picture of a smiling, happy man holding some sort of he's

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holding wheat, and it says the
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because farming was going well, Yeah, because farm. The next image says

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is a picture of Hitler, a
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and someone is like talking to him, a guy who is clearly ethnically kind

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of Korean, and a green shirt
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Yeah ethnic, and he says,
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the war, like, okay,
hold on, hold on, so just

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so we get this straight. Okay, the white guy is holding the wheat,

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the German white guy Okay. And
then the Korean guy comes along and

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tells Hitler, you know, or
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really comes along and tells Hitler.
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where it is is Korean. Hey, you know, you might have made

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a mistake here, and Hitler,
Yeah, that's wrong. Images two kids

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writing letters, it says Hitler stopped
the war when all the children in the

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world wrote letters asking him to stop
the war. One is a black fella,

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and the other one looks like a
white sort of white kid. It

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could be Korean, though, a
black kid and a vaguely non black kid

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for sure, to show some sort
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on a blue background, one on
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gave him two separate color desktops,
but had them both universally writing letters right

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handed. By the way, Hitler, and that stopped the war. The

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next image is a bomb going off, and it says the warranted when the

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atomic bomb was dropped in Hiroshima in
Japan. Whoa now wait wait wait wait

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wait wait wait wait now I just
want to put this this all in one

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pocket, Mike, just real fast. The wheat started to grow good in

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Germany. Okay, farming was going
well. Hitler realized he made a mistake,

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so he stopped the war, probably
because the Korean guy was talking to

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him. The kids wrote him letters
and told him the war was bad.

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And then the US dropped a bomb
and a story and what is the title

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of this page, my friends?
How did the war end? And then

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the subtitle part, like you know, under the big title is how did

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how did World War two end?
Try to find the right content and picture,

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So they want you to pick from
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good week growing because Hitler realized he
had made a mistake and he stopped the

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war. Or was it because children
wrote letters? Or was it because the

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bomb was dropped in Hiroshima? No
mention of Nagasaki by I screwed Nagasaki right

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anyway? Which one of these answers
is correct as to why World War two

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ended? Right, Mike. That's
that's the question in the booklet, isn't

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it You see that? Yeah?
Yeah, And that's how this is an

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educator. This is an educational thing. But what strikes me about this is

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that this is essentially learning by memes. Yeah, this is teaching children history

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through memes. And it's stupid and
we're laughing at it. It's ridiculous.

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But this is because Jesus has become
a huge dominant way that we're all thinking

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now because we're being influenced by memes. There's a report I read last week

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about the financial markets making the argument
it's a national security report, okay for

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some think take, and it's claiming
that there's a risk to the financial markets

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through the phrase it used was me
mimetic engineering. Mimetic engineering, which so

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I read that, and you know, what they were claiming was that people

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could create memes and use them to
engineer people into thinking a certain way about

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stocks the stock market, making them
believe there's risk in the market and just

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the other or the opposite and just
the other week they can stock game stock

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had another their surge after being dormant, you know, since for two years,

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and the surge happened because that Roaring
Kitty guy that had you know,

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promoted it two years ago, he
vanished and he simply posted a meme and

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that made people jump into the stock
and it went up like crazy, and

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then it crashed. So that's an
example of it. But I'm just using

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these stories to say that we're are
this is you know, we're not reading

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books, we're not consuming a lot
of real hard information anymore. We're just

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watching the TV, watching videos and
going through feeds and looking at these memes.

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And it's so easy to manipulate people
and and do whatever or but even

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if but in the end the result
is a massive dumbing down of people.

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And I'm telling you the stock market
stuff. I've seen new people get interested

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in the market, you know for
thirty years, you know now and now

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it's almost hopeless. Well, and
their frame of reference is the meme first

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one and someone, I mean literally
the crypto thing. All they is pictures

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of people with coins in their eyes
and stuff like that. And that's screenshots

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of short term gains that aren't sustainable. You're not gonna you know, they

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show you screenshots of someone with one
hundred dollars turning into ten thousand with some

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wild trade. Of course, maybe
maybe that happened, but you're not going

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to do that over and over again. You're going to go bust trying to

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do that. But the people believe
that's how you make money. Now,

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but that's the great case. Tell
them otherwise into politics or whatever, and

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it's the same result. Well,
because Mike, this is the reality,

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right, this is our new reality. Let's face it. Okay, you're

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talking about the stock market. I
bring it up again. I'm curious,

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by the way, because I know
you were keeping track of this for a

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little bit. What happened to Robinhood? Right? But look, when you

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have the app based reality. Okay, I got bombarded all this week,

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by the way, with a whole
bunch of all my commercials this week.

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When they weren't political commercials. It
was a whole bunch of things like,

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look, I know you're broke,
why don't you play some games? If

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you download different apps on your phone, you can get paid to play games.

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You can go play games for free
and get paid. People are in

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an app based reality. Their news, their information, their knowledge of the

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world around them is fed to them
by apps. And when they're not fed

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directly by the apps and their interaction
with different games. Whether it is,

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you know, a coin Master or
a Candy Crush or Robin Hood, it

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doesn't matter because any other education they
get is from what the pictures they see

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on Twitter. They don't read a
damn thing. I had a back and

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forth with a fairly big name author
a few days ago. Okay, a

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guy whose name would be easily recognizable
by everybody listening to this show right now,

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I'm sure of it. And the
guy pretty much said to me,

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why should I go on your show
because he's never been on Why should I

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go on your show because you know
you're not that big? And I kind

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of went, Okay, I'm not
that big. I'm not you know,

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I'm not Joe Rogan basically is what
the problem is, right, And I

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said, well, here's the thing
about how big I am or how big

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I'm not. I've got listeners who
actually read books and buy books. Still,

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Okay, so you know, I
don't know how big anybody else's audience

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is that you've been in the past
couple of months, weeks, years,

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whatever. But I got to tell
you a lot of their audiences don't buy

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books. Okay, So you tell
me, how many books did you sell

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when you were on big name podcast
inserted here? And yeah, I think

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I'm gonna be able to schedule him
for a week after next Okay, just

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saying, because I got him to
consider that in an email exchange and he

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kind of went, huh, you
actually have listeners who like read books?

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I said, yeah, I do. And so so you guys out there

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who do indicate to me and do
show that you buy books when I have

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authors on Guess what, it's an
argument to help me get better guests.

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So thank you. I just wanted
to point that out, Mike. I

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mean, most of the people that
listen to this show own your book.

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You know that, right, I
mean, that's the thing about it.

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I mean, well, I can't
say most, but I could say a

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whole lot of them do the ones
that I hear from, at least that's

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what they tell me that they have
off the book. You're right, You're

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absolutely right, you know, so
hopefully that person listen to you. Yeah,

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so I don't have you know,
two million people. I'm not mister

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Beast, which, by the way, that's another thing. Have you heard

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of mister Beast? Yeah, but
I don't know if I've ever watched it.

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Okay, mister Beast is basically an
out of control YouTube guy who gives

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away money. He has people do
stunts and he basically gives him ten to

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twenty one hundred thousand dollars to do
things. Occasionally, he's given away a

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million dollars. Okay, because he's
got such a massive following, he makes

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enough money. I don't know how
he started this whole thing, but he'll

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give away like one hundred thousand dollars
no problem, or he'll turn around and

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have you go. Okay, you
have to live in a grocery store,

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and every day you have to exchange
you know, if I start at one

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thousand dollars worth of goods to me
every day, and then every day it

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has to double, and you have
to give me those goods and line them

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up in carts and I'll cart it
out of there. And you have to

409
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:57.880
live in the grocery store. And
as many days as you live there,

410
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.440
I'll pay you, you know,
ten thousand dollars or twenty thousand dollars a

411
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:07.359
week to maintain this while you empty
the store until the store is totally empty,

412
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.119
and then you can walk away.
But you can walk away at any

413
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.039
time and get nothing, or you
can face the challenge of trying to live

414
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:20.160
in a grocery store. Okay,
he'll do stuff like that, and people

415
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.759
watch his videos and he gets,
you know, plenty of money from people

416
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:29.240
just viewing his stuff, and somehow
he's able to give away huge cash amounts.

417
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:34.519
Okay, So other people that don't
get lucky enough to run into mister

418
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.519
Beast, well, you know what, they've got a download a game.

419
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.000
We'll pay you to play a game. If you play a game and you

420
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.640
get far enough in the game,
we'll pay you money. It is a

421
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.079
very, very weird situation we have
here with this media and the interaction and

422
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:52.000
the fact that it is all app
based, it is all meme based,

423
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.279
and that is the reality in which
we find ourselves, which means people that

424
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.279
are cheering, people that are booing, people that are freaking out and getting

425
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.480
all bent out of shape about this
or that or the third thing that's happening

426
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.680
in the political realm or anywhere else, usually don't actually know what's happening.

427
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.240
They're just following what the apps are
feeding them and what the memes are telling

428
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.720
them. I mean, does that
sound inaccurate? To you, Mike,

429
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.759
or am I being too harsh on
the general public? What do you think?

430
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.200
No, No, that's exactly what's
I've come to conclude. And it

431
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:30.279
started in twenty sixteen in but did
it Do you think it started before that

432
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.920
or it just got like hot as
soon as Trump was coming in? I

433
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.480
mean, was it just more popular? I mean, because it seems to

434
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.839
me like the groundwork started before that. But obviously they perfected it, they

435
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.759
made it better, and they've turned
it into a better business. I mean,

436
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:51.319
Trump started out as an excellent content
creator for the cable news networks,

437
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.799
but now it's well beyond that.
Right, He's got his own social media

438
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.599
platform, he's got his own apps, he's got his own merch store.

439
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.880
So he's pretty much like an in
bodes there like anybody else, except one

440
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.960
thing. He's going to get to
be president again, I think. Anyway,

441
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:12.159
but you have been focused on local
politics and stuff and things actually happening

442
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.800
near you, And well, let's
talk about Virginia, Mike, because that's

443
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.840
where I thought we were going to
go. But I think you're absolutely right.

444
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.719
We're dealing with an app and meme
based society for the most part around

445
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.920
us, not you guys who listen
to this show generally, But take a

446
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:31.039
look around you. I think everybody
that you encounter is pretty much being told

447
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.679
what to do and how to follow
the circus and what to get outraged about,

448
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.199
what to buy, what to ingest, what to consume, what not

449
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:43.440
to consume, and what to play
with, whether it's Robinhood or it's coin

450
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.719
Master, to rely on it for
their income, their wages, as it

451
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.079
were to be in the world.
But Mike, what about what's happening in

452
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:57.440
Virginia that nobody's talking about right now? I mean, uh, what's happening?

453
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:05.639
Can you fill us in well?
With Trump? So, Virginia has

454
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.599
been a Democrat state for quite some
time, you know, voted I think

455
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.920
since gosh, uh, let mean
I have to go, let me go.

456
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.079
Look, Well, are you saying
that they always put in a Democratic

457
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.039
governor or all the politicians in Virginia, not not like it's not like California.

458
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:30.679
There's a Republican governor now. But
when it comes to the present presidential

459
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:45.000
elections, the last time they voted
for a Democrat it's been a really long

460
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.079
time. Well, what you're saying
is that Virginia generally will vote for the

461
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:55.679
Democratic presidential candidate. Is that the
idea? Yeah, they generally vote for

462
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:07.840
the Democrat in and maybe they voted
for I think uh, I think since

463
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.119
Clinton they've always voted Democrat. I
think they may have voted Republican over to

464
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.280
caucus of what you know, when
the first Bush if Ronald Reagan, and

465
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:24.079
but since Clinton, mm hmm,
I think they've all I think it's been

466
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:29.400
a Democrat every year. But regardless, it's heavily heavily Democrat. Uh.

467
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:35.880
The Senate, the governor seat and
switches back and forth. Uh. And

468
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:45.840
the state legislatures is pretty very narrowly
split right now, so very close,

469
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.320
so it can swing one way or
the other. But you know, in

470
00:36:50.440 --> 00:37:00.360
the last election, Trump lost to
Biden fifty four percent, ten points,

471
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:07.920
fifty four to forty four. He
lost to Clinton by five points, and

472
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:14.039
so far wait, Clinton won the
state of Virginia in twenty sixteen. You're

473
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.000
telling them, yeah, yeah,
yeah, okay, I'm surprised, were

474
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.039
go ahead, Yeah, yeah,
that's what I mean. It's heavily Democrat,

475
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.800
you know, and when it votes
for the president. So this poll

476
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:36.400
came out just yesterday by a Roanoke
College and political people. You know reading

477
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:43.760
articles about it, they say that
this is the most accurate poll historically in

478
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.880
the state of Virginia when it comes
to this, and it has the race

479
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:57.679
even right now, forty two percent
say they'll vote Biden forty two percent Trump.

480
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:04.800
And I've read seen and I don't
know what's going on in these states,

481
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.639
but Trump is winning in many polls
in these swing states like Pennsylvania,

482
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:15.239
Wisconsin, and so forth. Now, the last reporting that I read on

483
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.519
the Roano poll, right, because
they've taken a few of these. This

484
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:23.360
is the thing that's got some people
alarmed, apparently because this is a weird

485
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:29.159
shift. They're saying here that they're
split at forty two percent a piece,

486
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:34.679
right, yeah, yeah, So
when other candidates are listed, Biden holds

487
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:42.559
a thirty eight. Yeah, the
thing is though to be even split forty

488
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:46.280
forty two. That's a toll disaster. That's a lot. He should do

489
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:52.559
ahead, he should be ahead.
That's a complete in Virginia. I would

490
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:58.239
note that a year ago, one
of the memes that the Democrats were using

491
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:06.119
I was is bidonomics, you know, bidonomics, bionomics, And they've had

492
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.119
it. They've dropped that. They've
decided to drop that recently because they've realized

493
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:15.519
that it's actually, at this point, turning people off. Yeah, Bidenomics

494
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.199
is pissing people off. Bionomics sounds
like a disease now it does. Because

495
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:25.239
why though, Mike, Because here's
the problem. And I said, people

496
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.800
eye. But that's what I said
when they started pushing this, I said,

497
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:31.639
are you out of your minds with
telling us? You know? Because

498
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:35.840
again they pulled the trick. Look, I have complained, and you know

499
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:37.239
you've been on with me enough times. I mean, you and I have

500
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.480
probably done one hundred shows where I
have sat here and said, Mike,

501
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.719
the reality of the financial world and
all the BS they have on the network

502
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.000
TVs and all the stuff they show
on the stock market and whatever else has

503
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.440
zero to do with the reality we're
living in. Right. I've said this

504
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.920
a million times. I say to
you, Mike, why do they keep

505
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.079
telling us the economy is good when
it's sucks? We're getting eaten alive?

506
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.840
Right And in recent the recent past, you know, two years, I

507
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.000
got to tell you it's gotten a
hell of a lot worse. I mean,

508
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:14.360
as much as I want to argue
against Trump, because the guy does

509
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:19.280
make me want to vomit. The
problem is people that are for him go,

510
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.280
well, are you better off now
or were you better off when Trump

511
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.840
was in office? Is it Trump
who made it better off? Well,

512
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.280
there's another question. But here's the
deal. If you say that you were

513
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:34.320
doing better now then when Trump was
in office, I mean I want to

514
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.840
know you because you're doing something that
one hundred percent of everybody else I run

515
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:43.159
into is not able to do.
Everybody's suffering at this point. We're getting

516
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.239
squeezed because of inflation. So you
wrap all that around and you start talking

517
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.639
about, well, it's the Bidenomics
plan. Well, now I've got something

518
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.440
to blame on the fact that I
can't feed my family. Mike, I've

519
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.440
got something to blame. I can
call it Bidenomics when my electric builds ripples

520
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.639
and I didn't know what was going
to happen. Right. I can't afford

521
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.480
to buy laundry soap because of Bidenomics. I can't afford to buy Hamburger,

522
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:13.079
not even the cheapest crap suspect stuff
that's turning gray at the supermarket anymore,

523
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:17.639
because it's ten fifteen dollars a pound. Ooh, Bidenomics great, you know,

524
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.760
I mean, it's stupid to run
around and say, well, the

525
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:25.480
economy's doing well when everybody's suffering.
The only thing that didn't go up is

526
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.039
people's wages, or at least if
it did go up, it didn't go

527
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.760
up enough to cover what's happening here. Or am I out of my mind?

528
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.159
Mike? Tell him out at you
too, that I learned last year

529
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:43.599
from the from the local race,
what both what the Biden campaign is trying

530
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:50.880
to do here, which for what
I saw locally made backfire on him.

531
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:55.280
So and when I'm talking, I'll
tell you what I really think about these

532
00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:00.559
candidates at the end. So when
I say this, I'm not advocating for

533
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:05.880
Trump. I'm just trying to analyze
what is happening. Okay, you know

534
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.039
I'm not. I'm not pushing one
can or the other. I'm just telling

535
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:14.400
you the fact what's going on.
No problem is so the Biden campaign and

536
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.960
the Trump campaign have both decided to
hold a presidential debate at the end of

537
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:29.119
June. Apparently the motivation, you
know that the Trump campaign thinks that Biden

538
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:35.519
will stumble or look foolish. Maybe
they have nothing to lose because or Trump

539
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:40.800
Trump. The expectations for Trump in
the debate are so low, I guess

540
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:46.800
because unless you already like them,
you know, the media expectations are so

541
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:53.559
low that you'll probably do better than
their low expectations, which is just flat

542
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.119
stupid. Which is just flat stupid, because the one thing that Trump is

543
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.639
good at is trying to bark at
some bud and talk them down. Meanwhile,

544
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:07.159
Biden, every time he goes out
it's like I was just so.

545
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:14.000
The thing is that the Biden camp, they think his expectations are so low

546
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:19.199
too, that all he has to
do is, you know, not lookin.

547
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.280
All he's got to do is speak
clearly for five minutes and importantly though,

548
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:29.320
well, no, there's a in
their view, there's a bigger reason

549
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:36.079
than this. And in their their
claim or belief is that the reason these

550
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:40.760
Poe numbers are not good for Biden
in that Virginia one, that is a

551
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:47.440
disaster. Yeah, but the reason
they're not good and they're they're what they're

552
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:54.079
claiming in believing, I guess is
that people just start paying attention to the

553
00:43:54.199 --> 00:44:00.280
race, and uh, they just
have. And I think there's a lot

554
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.400
of truth to that. You know, one thing about the poll in Virginia.

555
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:09.199
I read some articles where someone and
someone made the comment that Biden's biggest

556
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:17.480
problem is in Trump is that the
Democrats are apathetic in supporting Biden because they

557
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:21.719
don't tell you why. But you
know it's inflation. Well, how are

558
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:25.400
they going to get excited? Look, the guys know, so I know

559
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:31.280
that. But the problem that the
Biden camp acknowledges this reality, and they

560
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:38.760
claim that once people start to pay
attention to the election, they'll then remember

561
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:45.199
their negative views of Trump and therefore
be motivated vote. And as a result,

562
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.360
they wanted to do the debate early
in June. I mean, they're

563
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.800
doing the debate before the damn either
two kids, even at their conventions.

564
00:44:54.480 --> 00:45:00.440
So the Biden camp believes this will
help, they'll active make the people because

565
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:05.679
it'll be in the news. And
basically, in other words, they're trying

566
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:12.280
to bring the election early, get
the election season going instead of August when

567
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.480
the Democrats are their convention, or
late July, bring it early, bring

568
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:20.039
it a bit early. Now.
What I want to tell you though,

569
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.000
you know, they think that's that's
their chance to win. Now, what

570
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:30.639
I learned last year locally is and
I was involved in with some local candidates

571
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:40.000
in local elections. Now the Republican
Party. We have a Republican governor.

572
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:52.920
They the governor decided to promote early
voting with the idea that Democrats do early

573
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:57.119
voting and we need to get Republicans
to do it. So he decided to

574
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:02.480
try to promote that last year,
and in the races in Virginia he sent

575
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.840
out you know, he did.
The governor sent out statements about early voting

576
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:16.760
and tried to really encourage it and
tried to encourage Republican Party leaders on the

577
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:22.760
local level to do it too.
So okay, so the Republicans in Virginia

578
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.639
said, let's get the Republicans to
vote early too, so this way we

579
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:30.440
can compete with the fact that the
Democrats get all these votes. Let's encourage

580
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:37.280
that. Tried to do so what
happened I was the people everyone was conservative

581
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.360
pretty much where I lived. The
people I'm supporting their conservatives. They're Republicans

582
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.760
right now. One of them told
me they don't think it would work because

583
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.800
people Republicans are just skeptical early voting, and he thought it's stupid. But

584
00:46:53.880 --> 00:47:02.519
what ended up happening was the the
Chamber of Commerce holds debates for local races,

585
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.599
usually in October, and they decided
to hold it a month earlier,

586
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:15.159
in starting in September, over a
few week period because this early voting idea,

587
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:22.320
and what ended up happening was,
uh, people did campaign early thinking

588
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.320
this was going to happen. And
then even if you don't think it's going

589
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.039
to happen, well you got a
campaign early because everyone else is doing it.

590
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:36.039
So they all all the candidates campaigned
early. What happened October came and

591
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:40.079
I know, I knew this was
happening because you know, I write,

592
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:44.599
I was writing about it, and
I can see the number of people reading

593
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:51.039
my articles, and it was falling
in October. In October, the number

594
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.800
of people reading my articles just dropped. You know. Well, so let

595
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:59.440
me let me cut Yeah, let
me cut to the chase with a question

596
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:01.960
then, Mike, because this is
what I predict would happen in this case,

597
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.360
and what I think is gonna happen
regarding these stupid early debates is that

598
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.800
if they actually do them all,
which I doubt they will, I think

599
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.519
they're gonna do one, find out
it's a disaster, and both camps are

600
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.960
gonna pull out. By the way, from future debates, it's too far

601
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:23.039
from voting day. So what happens
is people forget. Yeah, they're gonna

602
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.599
forget. Yeah, yeah, you're
one hundred percent right now. Okay,

603
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.760
they're gonna forget what happened in June. It won't matter by November. I

604
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.159
want people to know that factor.
Yeah, I didn't tell the whole early

605
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:39.400
voting thing. What happened here,
it didn't work. In fact, we

606
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:44.920
had the lowest voting turnout in years. Now, people, I didn't opposite

607
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:46.920
happened. Yeah, no, people, what happened was I did not know

608
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.199
this in advance. I want everybody
to know I didn't know any of this

609
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.960
in advance. I'm just listening to
what Mike's saying and going, you know

610
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.239
what I think would happen in that
case this, And guess what turns out

611
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.559
that's exactly what happened. But go
ahead. So what what happened was the

612
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:06.360
people campaign so early that by October
you forget people. You know, they've

613
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.440
done that. They don't need to
hear it anymore, and they tuned out.

614
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:14.039
And then a month goes by and
now it's election day and people didn't

615
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.119
A lot of people didn't jump to
vote. Is the lowest turnout in years,

616
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.000
and I think that's what's gonna happen
here because too, I think it's

617
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.159
going to be a really low turnout
election and they're doing it too early,

618
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.400
and the same thing's going to happen. And there's already low, low enthusiasm

619
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:37.360
for both canates among the majority of
people. I mean, the polls show

620
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:44.239
that both can Eates are disliked.
Uh. And that's that's the way it

621
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:49.159
is. But Trump has his very
very solid supporter base that is going to

622
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:53.199
stick with him no matter what.
Biden doesn't have that. No, And

623
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.159
number two, here's the thing about
it. It's not just that they forget

624
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.760
about it by the time November or
October rolls around. But on top of

625
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:06.079
it, here's the other problem.
Oversaturation. How sick of political commercials are

626
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.639
you? By the time you get
to you know, November second, right,

627
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.039
or November fifth, or whatever the
voting day is, you get so

628
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:17.519
overburdened with this crap because they start
putting it everywhere, right that you get

629
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.760
overrun by these stupid political commercials.
Think about it, anybody listening to this

630
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:29.079
in your location, right, your
governor's race, your local congress, whatever,

631
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.159
you are getting hit with senators that
aren't even in your district, but

632
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:36.199
you're close to their district. You
are so overrun with their commercials that you

633
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:39.639
remember parts of them, but you're
so irritated by it that you're sick of

634
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.880
it by the time you get to
voting day. So you're either sick of

635
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:49.239
it or you've forgotten what has happened
over the past year, because everybody's got

636
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.519
a short attention span nowadays. So
those two things put together mean to me,

637
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.159
Mike that this early, let's do
it early crap is counterproductive all the

638
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.840
way around and will drive down on
voter turnout in general, because one they'll

639
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.719
be sick of hearing about it,
and two they'll forget a whole lot of

640
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.199
stuff, even the debates. So
why are they doing this except well,

641
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.320
maybe somebody has it in their mind, let's drop the voter turnout a bit,

642
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:20.440
let's turn down the heat and have
less people engaged. I mean,

643
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.840
that's the only thing I could come
up with their incomponent what they're doing.

644
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:29.239
Oh is that the other answer?
Well, there's that, plus there's the

645
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.679
millions and millions upon millions that they
have to spend the exactly. Yeah,

646
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:37.400
there's a lot of people making money
on all the consult yep you know,

647
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.800
might be made. There's a whole
industry behind this, and that's the beauty

648
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.280
of it, right. Those people
are gonna get paid. Doesn't matter how

649
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.039
they screw things up, misinform you, or twist things around or irritate the

650
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.000
hell out of you with commercials.
You're gonna get it because it's somebody's job.

651
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.320
Okay, I'm sorry, Mike,
I had to throw that in.

652
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.960
So what are your thoughts here though? On Virginia? You think we're going

653
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.480
to have the same kind of problem
here where there's going to be low voter

654
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:06.280
turnout and you know, oh geez, we got to vote for one of

655
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.599
these two old guys because Bobby Kennedy
is Bobby Kennedy even on the ballot in

656
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.960
Virginia, by the way, I
didn't know. I don't think so,

657
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:17.239
probably not right, but well,
I look, the thing about Virginia is

658
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:25.840
that the after Biden won, that's
when the governor of Virginia got elected,

659
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:32.880
and it was before the congressional elections, and it was supposedly going to be

660
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.079
a bell weather of this and that
because it was the first you know,

661
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:43.960
it was the year after. It
was right after Biden won the next novembery

662
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:46.079
red wave that was going to come
in next. Is that what the idea

663
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:50.920
was? Next? Is that when
the red wave, when that red wave

664
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.880
was supposed to come in, they're
going to react because Biden and all that,

665
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:54.920
They're going to come in with the
red wave. Is that what the

666
00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:01.679
idea was or No? In Virginia, Yeah, Well, what happened was

667
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:12.559
the governor the Republicans won in the
What happened was areas of the state where

668
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:19.639
I live were heavily Republican, rural
areas, less populate areas. They actually

669
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:25.320
had high turnout. The Trump people
turned out, and there was massively low

670
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.960
turnout in northern Virginia, where the
Democrat strongholds are the real populate areas,

671
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:38.119
really low turnout the and the Republicans
won. So that's that's kind of what

672
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:43.679
you're saying, Crownd. Things are
kind of lining up the way things stand

673
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:50.920
now. I don't know what effect
this uh verdict has. I don't and

674
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:58.000
he's not going to jail you forget
that. So I assumed. Yeah,

675
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:02.199
I know, the betting odds jumped
a little bit for Biden, but again,

676
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.840
it's early, you know, it's
way too early. Are people going

677
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.159
to vote on that? I don't
I don't know. Are people going to

678
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:13.960
vote on it? Okay, here's
the thing about that, right, And

679
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.360
I want to play Trump's reaction to
his conviction. Yeah, do that,

680
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:22.440
And that's a good way to and
we'll just we'll put a cap on this

681
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:27.079
one for tonight, okay, because
this is important. Is this gonna matter?

682
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.239
Remember this is May, right,
it's the end of May, beginning

683
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.400
of June. We're gonna have these
debates coming up soon. And guess what,

684
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.519
there's a lot of time up to
November, a lot of time for

685
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.199
people to forget and to get irritated
with the commercials, et cetera. Right,

686
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.440
So all that's happening, and don't
forget. We have sentencing in July

687
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:52.280
after the debates. Number one,
number two. The sentencing in July could

688
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.840
be stopped, could be held off, things on appeal, et cetera.

689
00:54:55.000 --> 00:55:01.039
So between appeals, stuff being overturned, challenges coming in. You know,

690
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.360
maybe the judge wasn't legitimate. They're
going to investigate the jury. I'm telling

691
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:10.119
you, all that stuff is gonna
count. Regarding Trump's felony convictions, thirty

692
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.400
four counts. The media is telling
you about it, because they had to

693
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.840
come up with, you know,
a cliffhanger for the end of the season

694
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.519
of the Trump trial, right the
Trump hush money trial, which wasn't even

695
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.280
what it was. But let's hear
what former President Trump had to say right

696
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:30.079
after. And I bet you if
you guys haven't heard this, you can

697
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:34.480
predict a lot of the phrases he's
about to use. But will people even

698
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.480
remember this by the time November comes
or their early voting happens in October?

699
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:44.920
Will they or will they be totally
irritated with everything by then? Who knows.

700
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:51.039
Let's take a look, because this
is actually what's bolstering his popularity among

701
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:54.039
the grievance party that he has gathered
around him. So let's play Trump.

702
00:55:54.119 --> 00:56:01.960
Now, this was a disgrace.
This was a rigged trial by a conflicted

703
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:08.360
judge who was corrupted. It's a
rigged trial and disgrace. They wouldn't give

704
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:15.480
us a venue change. We were
at five percent or six percent in this

705
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:21.639
district, in this area. This
was a rigged, disgraceful trial that the

706
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:27.039
real verdict is going to be November
fifth by the people. And they know

707
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:31.320
what happened here and everybody knows what
happened here. You have a sore respect

708
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:37.840
Da and the whole thing. We
didn't do anything wrong. I'm a very

709
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:43.000
innocent man, and it's okay.
I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting

710
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.480
for our constitution. Our whole country
is being rigged right now. This was

711
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:53.039
done by the Biden administration in order
to wound or hurt an opponent, a

712
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:59.400
political opponent, and I think it's
just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting.

713
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.920
We'll fight to the end, and
we'll win because our country's gone to

714
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:07.360
hell. We don't have the same
country anymore. We have a divided mess

715
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:12.719
where nation had declined, serious decline. Millions and millions of people pouring into

716
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:19.960
our country right now from prisons and
from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're

717
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.039
taking over our country. We have
a country that's in big trouble. But

718
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:29.079
this is a rig decision right from
day one, with a conflicted judges should

719
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.119
have never been allowed to try this
case. Never, And we will fight

720
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.519
for our constitution. This has long
from over, Thank you very much.

721
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:42.559
Okay, that is Trump's thing.
He turns his back, he walks away.

722
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.559
Reporters are yelling all kinds of questions
to him, Eric Trump behind him

723
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:51.360
in support, and he's at least
done for now and doesn't have to return

724
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.880
until July unless there's some other hearings
in the meantime. Okay, And that's

725
00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.880
the way it was from the courthouse
steps in New York City. So Mike,

726
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:05.039
let me ask you a question first. I would like your opinion.

727
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:12.880
Do you believe in any way this
effects you know, Trump's chances for selection

728
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.559
in November. Do you think that
this is going to have an effect,

729
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:21.639
and if so, do you think
it's a positive or a negative for him?

730
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.599
In truth in his current campaign,
because to me, this has been

731
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:31.559
a what month long campaign commercial?
They basically CNN, ran, MSNBC,

732
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:37.599
Fox, from every conceivable angle for
people to have agrievments, for people to

733
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:40.239
get angry, for people to get
engaged with this thing, which, by

734
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:44.400
the way, has nothing to do
with the Constitution. It's gotten to do

735
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:49.320
with this guy's right to conduct his
business the way that he did, and

736
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:52.280
was he proper and is he you
know, would you be able to conduct

737
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.599
business the way this guy did.
It's not about the hush money, which

738
00:58:55.639 --> 00:59:00.880
is also a misrepresentation from the media, But I want to know, do

739
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:05.519
you think this is going to affect
the selection, And do you think it's

740
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:12.360
a positive or a negative for the
Trumpster and the rest of his dumpster fire,

741
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:14.679
that is, his supporters at this
point, what do you think?

742
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:20.119
I'm really not sure, honestly what
impact this thing has. I really don't

743
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:27.119
know. But what I'm going to
watch is the poll numbers, not now.

744
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:31.840
I mean, I'll tell you this, like, there's a betting website.

745
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:40.119
We've talked about it before. It's
reacted by by giving Biden a swing

746
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:46.360
from having a forty nine percent chance
of winning to fifty three percent. It's

747
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:52.519
according to how people are betting,
this helps the Democrats. Okay, but

748
00:59:52.840 --> 01:00:00.280
that said, what I'm going to
be watching is that debate. Well,

749
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.400
I don't care what happens during the
debate, but I want to see the

750
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:09.360
polls after the debate and how they
move, which one gains are there,

751
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:15.840
because I think by then, you
know, whatever, however, things are

752
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.440
settled by then, I think that's
probably it's probably not going to change very

753
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:27.119
much. And if it wasn't for
this thing happening today, just the way

754
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:31.559
things stay in I think Trump Trump
will be winning. But I don't have

755
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:38.519
any argument of how it helps them
or doesn't I see, so you don't

756
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:44.360
know whether this is see isn't that
crazy though? Just think about this for

757
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.559
a minute, Mike. Normally,
I mean even if I was just,

758
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:52.639
you know, working at a grocery
store, I could tell you exactly how

759
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:58.920
felony convictions are about to affect me. Okay, regular people felony conviction.

760
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:05.960
Let me tell you telling you this. I looked. I just asked to

761
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:10.079
put it in Google. And what
happens if he's set sentenced, what's the

762
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:16.400
sentence going to be? And basically
I've read a couple of articles and you

763
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:22.239
know, most likely he'd get some
sort of probation, yeah, right,

764
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:29.760
Or if he is sentenced to jail, he's not going to jail because he's

765
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:31.679
the president. You got the Secret
Service. They're gonna put him in a

766
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:39.400
prison cell and guard him. Most
likely, it's pretty funny he would get

767
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:44.079
home confinement. Well, if he
wins, then he's confined to the White

768
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.199
House. So it's like, I
mean, someone's the comedy. If he's

769
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:52.280
sentenced, it's hilarious. And it's
not like we haven't had people run cities

770
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.440
and also be congress people from prison
before. That's happened, by the way.

771
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:02.159
You know that, right, We've
had mayors of major cities you know

772
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:09.079
is due part of their mayoral you
know, administration from a prison cell before,

773
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:15.039
that's happened. Okay, but but
Trump is not going uh And and

774
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.679
for those that think somehow a convicted
fella can't be president, you're incorrect.

775
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.000
Okay, I'm just letting you know. I don't think it says anything about

776
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:27.159
a felony versus whatever. If he
commits certain crimes while in office, he

777
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:30.280
can be impeached. But we already
saw how that goes. So guess what

778
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:34.599
can he still be president? Yes? And I'll tell you something else.

779
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.480
If you're betting on Biden to win, talk about a sucker's bet. I

780
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:43.199
mean, look a sucker in their
money or to be parted from one any

781
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:47.079
time if I had I don't have
a big opinion on it, but if

782
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:52.800
I was forced to make one,
I would just doesn't have any impact at

783
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:57.199
all. But by November, you
know, yeah, exactly. And I'll

784
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.639
tell you another funny thing is I
saw like that one of these political commentator

785
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:02.800
somebody else caught up to him and
tried to ask him as a journalist like

786
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.679
Okay, if I put a gun
to your head right now, right,

787
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.400
you know this guy who's like,
I'm a libertarian, I don't want any

788
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:15.320
part of either one of these you
know, corporate government parties. Screw this,

789
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:17.599
blah blah blah. They said,
Well, if I had to put

790
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:21.960
a gun to your head right now
and make you vote for either Trump or

791
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.119
Biden, which one would you do? The guy looked, with a very

792
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:30.280
stern look on his face, very
seriously, said I guess the gun goes

793
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:35.960
off. I mean, but I'm
going to tell you now, First of

794
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:38.639
all, I ain't buying it.
The guy's lying because most people that are

795
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:42.360
going to make a selection here are
going to choose one or the other.

796
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.800
Whether they like it or not is
irrelevant. They're going to pick from one

797
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:50.599
of the two menu options. Okay, it's just like going to a restaurant.

798
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.360
Most people don't go to a restaurant
and order off the menu. They

799
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:58.679
just don't do it. And this
is the menu, Biden or Trump?

800
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:01.599
Which one you want? In some
places they might put RFK Junior in there

801
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:06.760
as well, but that's all it'll
be. Anyway. Look, Wall Street

802
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:13.039
Window is retiring as a news website. But you can still if you haven't

803
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:15.480
already purchased them, purchased the books
by Mike Swanson, and you're working on

804
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:20.280
another one in the Vietnam series right
now, right, Yeah, that's right.

805
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:25.559
So Why the Vietnam War is the
first in a planned series of three

806
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.480
books I think by Mike Swanson,
but who knows, maybe you'll get two

807
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:30.920
or maybe you'll get four, but
I know that at least he's working on

808
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.760
volume two of that set. And
as per always, I'll tell you you

809
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:39.599
need to buy The War State,
and I'll still encourage you if you don't

810
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.119
have a copy of it for yourself. If you do have a copy of

811
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:45.960
it for yourself, buy the audiobook
or buy one for a friend, get

812
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.239
them to take a look at it, because important parts of history written by

813
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:54.800
my friend, my co host for
Many a Thor's Day lately and used to

814
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:59.440
be on Tuesdays, but Many a
Thor's Day as for the past couple of

815
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:02.880
years. Michael Swanson the author of
the War State and Why the Vietnam War,

816
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:06.119
as well as a bunch of other
books, one of them The History

817
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:10.920
of Danville, Virginia. You know, he wrote the forward to a book

818
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:15.079
that his father wrote about the Roman
Empire. He's also written books about financial

819
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.480
stuff. But I don't know.
Your financial books might no offense or anything,

820
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:21.360
but I think they might be out
of date considering the new technologies and

821
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:26.480
the new madness of the markets.
But Mike Swanson is still out there.

822
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.360
You got anything else that I should
promote here besides your books, Mike,

823
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:33.440
Oh, not today, but we
shall Yeah, we shall see in the

824
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:38.440
future if you have some other stuff
to do. Matter of fact, I'm

825
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.960
hoping that you get involved in doing
some public events that we talked about.

826
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:45.920
That would be great, uh,
And I'd love to be a part of

827
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.519
that in the future. And what
do you think are you still considering going

828
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:55.639
to Dallas this year? Yeah?
Yeah, I'm likely to go excellent.

829
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.039
Well, look, if you're going
to be a presenter, I'm thinking that

830
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:01.559
we got to get into a breakout
room and talk about international politics at least,

831
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:05.119
because I think they're going to let
me run the breakout room entirely this

832
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:09.679
year. And I'm going to be
the MC at the Lancer conference, so

833
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.960
I will be there in person.
And I love to hang out with you,

834
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.719
Mike, So I'd love to sure
love to get together with you.

835
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.440
I mean it's made believe me,
the conferences that I've been to in the

836
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:24.280
past couple of past five six years
or so, I've been a couple of

837
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:26.920
times and it wouldn't have been as
good a time if I hadn't run into

838
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:30.599
Mike Swanson. So I will be
talking about Lancer more in upcoming months and

839
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:35.000
also giving you guys where you can
go get discounts and even make travel arrangements

840
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:40.559
if you want to go to Dallas. But it'll also be available online just

841
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:45.440
so you guys know, and discount
tickets for an o'cell code, by the

842
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.159
way, which they have already given
me, but they haven't set up the

843
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:50.440
website yet, so as soon as
I have it, I'll put it out

844
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:54.199
there. But in the meantime,
like I said, if you don't own

845
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:58.280
a copy of the War State or
Why the Vietnam War, both of those

846
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.800
books are authored by Mike Swanson,
and I highly recommend them both. Anything

847
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.119
you want to say on your way
out the door tonight, mare, Oh

848
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:09.960
no, we've been saying, he's
getting Did we cover it all? Yeah?

849
01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.880
Best we could? And uh,
no matter what, and no matter

850
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:15.679
who you are, where you are, when you are, I want you

851
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:17.800
to remember that I'm merely o'chelly.
All of you are indeed the effect.

852
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:21.039
And uh hopefully for those of you
that are praying out there, I hope

853
01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:27.079
that you're praying for all of us
as we endure the upcoming selection and what

854
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:31.280
the hell is happening to America,
whether it's the inflation squeeze or the political

855
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:35.239
disasters or the nonsense. And oh, by the way, if you're a

856
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:40.440
convicted felon, you probably can't vote. But you O Chili dot com,

857
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Window dot dot Silver, the stock
market, wall Stream, Window dot dot

858
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Perhaps you're invested deeply, perhaps you're
not in heap enough. Maybe you're thinking

859
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about getting started, Wall Street,
Windows dot com, Doo dot com.

860
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Michael Swanson, the brilliant author of
the War State, understood these trends professionally

861
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for many years, and now he
gives you the benefit of his knowledge.

862
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Wall Street, STREAMO dott go there, now go there, now go there,

863
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now to you was expressed my caller
Schools there anyone else who happens to

864
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get on the area's Gona dot com
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865
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or Jolly and we are not responsible
for any stupidity which might ensue, thank

866
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you. Nuclear holocaust. You know
what uranium is right? Think of nuclear

867
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weapons and other things like lots of
you know what uranium is right? Bad

868
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things things are brune with uronium and
getting some bad things. Nuclear holocaust.

869
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You know what your rulan is right? I'd been agree looklear Holocaust, nuclear

870
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holocaust. You know what urunium is
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871
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other things like lots of you know
what ullium is right? Things have been

872
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with your anementleting some bad things.
Nuclear Holocaust, Nuclear holi Holocaust, Nuclear

873
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Holocaust, nuclear holocaust, nuclear Holoohchili
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874
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about the JAFA assassination. Right,
Well, what do you want to know?

875
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:24.119
Dy Baker's wild claim Oswald girlfriends he
knew Ruby and Barry answer weapons?

876
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:27.000
Really, I imagine I could claim
I have four wheels. It doesn't make

877
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me a wagon. But okayal on
the building and trying to prevent the murder

878
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of John Kennedy. Come on now, has a real effort on the day

879
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of Heay assassination. Go to Amazon
dot com enter Judith Baker in her own

880
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words. You'll get the results for
a digital copy of a book where Walt

881
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:48.520
Brown utilizes her own words and the
known evidence in the case to get at

882
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:54.239
well a different perspective. Let's say
you can get Judith Barry Baker in her

883
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:59.279
own words from the author himself,
signed if you request it by contacting doctor

884
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Brown at ka I as jfk at
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885
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and it actually dissects the many,
many fantastic claims Judith Mary Baker in her

886
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own words. Radio in Denial Secret
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887
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Hancock. Secret wars became a staple
of US covert operations and are still happening

888
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today. Larry Hancock's book In Denial
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889
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using new files. It exposes things
about the Bay and Pigs that no one

890
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:40.119
has ever written about before. It
shows why it really failed and why the

891
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United States did not earn from it. It also shows why other countries today

892
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are doing secret operations with more success. This is the book that puts what

893
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some want to deny into the light. In Denial, Secret Wars with air

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Strikes and Tanks Larry Hancock. For
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895
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dot com. Pick up your copy
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digital or physical force. This is
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897
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you're listening to the Shelley Affected o'helly
dot com. Do you like history,

898
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Real history that you were never taught
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899
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Bombs in Nation Building in Southeast Asia
by author Mike Swanson, with new documentation

900
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never seen before that'll open your eyes
to events that led up to this.

901
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Why the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in
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902
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through nineteen sixty one. Get your
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the Vietnam War by author Mike Swanson. The War State by Michael Swanson explains

904
01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:53.399
the great national transformation that took place
and put the Kennedy presidency in the context

905
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:58.319
of the times, and reveals never
before published information about the Cuban missile crisis.

906
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.640
President Kennedy would not have been assassinated
if he had been president two hundred

907
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:06.039
years ago. His assassination took place
in the context of the Cold War and

908
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:11.000
the rise of the national security state. Before World War II, the United

909
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:15.079
States was a continental republic in the
decade that followed it became an imperial superpower.

910
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:19.479
Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only
wanted to invade Cuba, but knew

911
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:24.520
that there were short range missiles on
the island aren't with nuclear warheads that they

912
01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:28.640
could not destroy because they were on
mobile launchers. Their invasion could have led

913
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:31.640
to a Third World War, and
they wanted to go to war anyway.

914
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:36.239
The War State by Michael Swanson reveals
why, and we'll show you what President

915
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:42.680
Kennedy was up against. For more
information, Thewarstate dot com. So I'm

916
01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:45.239
coming back in here at the end
of the show to be a little bit

917
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.279
of a surprise to you, But
I wanted to just make a little bit

918
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:51.680
of commentary here without Mike Swanson along
for the ride, because you know,

919
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:55.199
look, Mike had a lot of
things to say about what's going on in

920
01:12:55.319 --> 01:13:00.279
Virginia. But I want you all
to watch and learn because here's what's gonna

921
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.720
happen. And here's my prediction for
the future that nobody will bother to listen

922
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.119
to because they've already tuned out because
of the ads at the end, right

923
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:14.279
check it out. Trump will end
up doing no jail time. Now in

924
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.439
the media, there's a bunch of
these meat muppets running around screaming you could

925
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:21.640
do up to four years for each
felody, Oh my god, one hundred

926
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:25.039
and you know, and then they're
trying to do the math real quick,

927
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:27.359
which is, you know, one
hundred and thirty six, So one hundred

928
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:31.239
and thirty six years prison time is
potentially there. They're not going to give

929
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:36.000
them consecutive sentences, There's no way
possible. And even if they did something

930
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:42.279
stupid like that, they would suspend
it, and likely it's probation and a

931
01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:48.880
fine if anything actually sticks, because
don't forget it still hasn't been a done

932
01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:54.479
deal yet. Now, you or
I, if we lost against the Southern

933
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:59.239
District of New York or whoever,
we wouldn't have the resources to fight back.

934
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:01.319
I mean, while you're sitting there
and being forced to sit there during

935
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:04.000
a trial, you're losing money.
You can't go to work, you can't

936
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:09.359
earn nothing, you don't have money, and you already gave the sister sitting

937
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:14.800
next to you many, many thousands
of dollars, okay, I mean I've

938
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.279
turned around on occasion and laid down
two thousand and four thousand dollars to a

939
01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:20.399
lawyer before, and believe me,
they use it up real quick on their

940
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:25.279
hourly do this, that or the
third thing. Because of course, if

941
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:27.920
they make a phone call and eat
an apple, it costs you three hundred

942
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:34.520
bucks. Right. Anyway, you
don't get results like the privileged do.

943
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:39.760
And make no mistake, regardless of
the image, the terrible things they say

944
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:43.520
about them on certain channels and blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. Trump

945
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:46.119
is a privileged star. Will he
even pay his attorneys? Who knows?

946
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:48.640
And if he does pay him,
will he pay him out of his campaign

947
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:53.880
finances? Absolutely he will. He
says it in the emails when he's hawking

948
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:58.119
you to buy the latest Trump to
him and Aton, or to buy the

949
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:02.840
latest rubber ducky or made in China. It's okay. He's got plenty of

950
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:06.119
cash flow because people are aching and
dying to buy stuff. As a matter

951
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:10.600
of fact, he had a dinner
at mar a Lago just this week for

952
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:15.239
a whole bunch of people that at
least bought forty five I think either forty

953
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:19.600
five or forty seven of his NFTs
at one hundred bucks a pop. You

954
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:23.680
don't know what I'm talking about.
He sold digital cards out there right,

955
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:27.720
pictures of him with a lion,
pictures of him standing at a podium being

956
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.880
a superhero whatever, holding a guitar
like he's a rock star, et cetera,

957
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:39.000
et cetera. He sold JPEGs basically
to people if you bought forty seven

958
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:42.199
of them, which is, you
know what, forty five hundred and ninety

959
01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:44.680
dollars worth or whatever. I don't
know. I'm doing a quick estimate.

960
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:50.399
If you were willing to spend four
grand plus to buy his pictures, he

961
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:55.119
might have got to show up and
have dinner with him at mar A Lago,

962
01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:57.520
which I understand, the food's not
that good and oh, by the

963
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:01.880
way, today, regardless of his
statements out there and what he has to

964
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:09.640
say and everything else, I did
get word from somebody inside the Trump camp,

965
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:15.359
because, believe it or not,
I have a source near Trump when

966
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:19.239
he's in Jersey and New York,
and I didn't know about it until a

967
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:25.279
couple of months ago. But I
didn't ask my source any questions recently.

968
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:30.000
I didn't want to bother them,
and they were busy and they were not

969
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:32.079
able to get to me during a
certain time and send me a text or

970
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:35.920
anything else. And I'm not saying
that that's how they communicate with me,

971
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:39.600
because I'm not even gonna let you
guys know how they communicate with me,

972
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:44.239
because God help us if they actually
got busted trying to communicate with lunatic me

973
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:51.000
and a small handful of others that
they do communicate with. The inside dope

974
01:16:53.560 --> 01:17:00.560
from today is that Trump was pissed, and I mean pissed off big time

975
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:06.239
today. He is in the how
dare they mode? How dare they say

976
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:11.359
these things about me? How dare
they even say I was convicted and everything.

977
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.279
It's got nothing to do with the
financial price, It's got nothing to

978
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.279
do with he's a criminal, It's
got nothing to do with the constitution.

979
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:24.239
It's how dare they the people want
me to be president? How dare they?

980
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:31.119
That's really what that whole Trump clip
boils down to. That's the reality

981
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.720
behind the scenes, that's the shorthand
of it, and that's the truth of

982
01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:40.720
it. He is pissed that they
would even dare say the things about him

983
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:45.359
that they've said in the court on
TV. This is the grievance, and

984
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:53.560
the vengeance is already being planned.
This, according to a true believer in

985
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:57.279
the Trumpster. A guy who wants
to convince me that I need to join

986
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:00.880
the Trump train has said that if
I can switch my mind up a bit,

987
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:08.199
he might even find some new work
for me. Yeah, I'm not

988
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.439
going to say who. Not going
to say that. It's a name anybody

989
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:13.920
would know. It's not a famous
guy. I don't know too many famous

990
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:17.319
guys, that's for sure. But
a guy who is working right there,

991
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:23.079
right there in the mix, is
telling me about a bunch of things going

992
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:28.119
on behind the scenes. The delusion
about Milania not being around is a delusion.

993
01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:31.720
She's staying off camera somehow, but
she's been around. Baron's been around.

994
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:38.199
The whole nonsense about whether Baron Trump
was going to be, you know,

995
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:43.720
a working for the Republicans in Florida
and this and that because he turned

996
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:47.279
eighteen, et cetera. Whatever,
that was being floated out there as an

997
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:50.119
idea to see if people would really
really get behind it or not. They

998
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:54.239
didn't get behind it enough, so
it's been scrapped. But that was an

999
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:59.199
idea being floated by the Trump group
of advisors. It was a real thing.

1000
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:03.199
It was bs, but it wasn't
being seriously planned until they got a

1001
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:06.359
good temperature on it, until they
figured out which way the wind was blowing.

1002
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:13.720
And indeed, that is how they're
running this whole situation. They're figuring

1003
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:19.000
out what the reaction is among their
most ardent supporters, and according to their

1004
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:27.399
internal numbers right now as we speak, support for Trump is growing based on

1005
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:33.159
the fact that people that are gathering
to the Orange Man think that, you

1006
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:38.479
know what, I'm being screwed in
this country and they're trying to screw Trump

1007
01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:41.720
just the same way. And you
know why, It's because we believe the

1008
01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:47.079
same things. Because no matter what
he actually says or actually does, these

1009
01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:51.119
people believe that Trump is on their
side. They will parse out from his

1010
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:54.800
mixed up statements, which if you
try and read them, or kind of

1011
01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:59.079
confusing, but they parse out the
parts that they like. They cherry pick

1012
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:02.840
the selective piece piece of it,
and they decide that this guy is saying

1013
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:09.920
exactly what they're thinking. And that
group, that contingent that portion of his

1014
01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:18.199
support is growing. In their internal
numbers state that right now, across the

1015
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:25.359
country, on balance, regardless of
where you are, the likelihood is that

1016
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:34.239
it is about a fifty seven to
forty situation regarding Trump versus Biden. Biden

1017
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:40.560
has the forty Trump has fifty seven
percent, and you're saying to yourself,

1018
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:45.039
well, jee chuck, what happened
to the rest of the numbers there right

1019
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:51.520
Well, those actually belong to Bobby
Kennedy Junior. And that's not factoring where

1020
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:55.359
you can actually vote for him.
So those numbers are a little off.

1021
01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:59.479
But right now, the way they
see it is they have almost a sixty

1022
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:06.560
percent vote count going their way once
you factor everything straight on through the situation

1023
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:13.479
in the country. They're internal numbers
that they're not currently sharing because it's too

1024
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:18.800
early to appear as though you have
confidence and it's not going to help if

1025
01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:23.359
people think that he's got the win
in hand. Then the grievance idea of

1026
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:27.479
the leverage of people meeting the side
with him because he's being victimized by the

1027
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:32.520
same system that has unfairly targeted the
white man in this country, that has

1028
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:38.239
unfairly targeted the regular people in this
country, that has given in to the

1029
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:43.840
immigrants and not the people that were
born here in this country. That system

1030
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:48.920
is rigged against all of us just
the same way they're going after him,

1031
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:56.319
and they're only going after him because
he is actually on the majority side.

1032
01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:04.199
That is the intellectual point from which
they are working and they're not showing the

1033
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:12.279
fifty seven percent Trump poll. They're
not showing any of this stuff, and

1034
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:16.520
they're going to let him do his
thing. You're going to see over the

1035
01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:20.199
course of this weekend, according to
what I understand, during this weekend and

1036
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:27.960
by Monday, Okay, look for
an announcement on the third of this month,

1037
01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:30.640
right, that is the third one. Yeah, okay, just double

1038
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:33.960
checking to make sure, because I
was given that date. I want to

1039
01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:39.760
make sure it was a Monday,
on the third of June. You will

1040
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:45.119
see that, and you'll see an
announcement about his plan of vengeance. And

1041
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:51.680
then around his birthday, a gift
is going to be given to him regarding

1042
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:56.800
the presidential election, A big gift, a big boost which is going to

1043
01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:01.520
help with the people that are not
on the grid, evenstrain. Okay,

1044
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:09.039
there's the gravy train and the grievance
train, and then there's all those illegals.

1045
01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:12.720
That's the way they're dividing this stuff
up, and that's the way they're

1046
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:15.800
working with it from the internals and
not the people that are even talking to

1047
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:19.760
Trump This is the way they're talking
amongst themselves from what I'm being told by

1048
01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:27.119
somebody that I know is in close
proximity to Agent Orange. And yes,

1049
01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:30.840
I will still call him Agent Orange. As we found out DC Today website,

1050
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:34.119
you know that has its home base
in Russia. That's been pushing out

1051
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:40.119
there all kinds of fun stuff like, you know, the the president of

1052
01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:45.399
Ukraine going out and buying cocaine and
yachts for his family, you know,

1053
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:49.239
with American taxpayer dollars. You know
that that whole propaganda outfit that's being run

1054
01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:54.520
out of Russia that people say isn't
Russian propaganda. Yeah, okay, anyway,

1055
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:58.159
not so successful. But don't worry. There is a part two coming.

1056
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:03.439
And we're also going to see during
the month of June an uptick of

1057
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:12.520
independent, allegedly independent groups coming out
with Biden corruption stuff that'll be partially based

1058
01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:18.439
in reality but loaded with hyperbole.
Now I don't like to make these kind

1059
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:21.760
of predictions, but when I got
a good inside source like this, I'm

1060
01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:25.159
telling you these are what the plans
are. Now. I don't know if

1061
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:30.479
they'll change in the meantime, but
let's test our source together. Look on

1062
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:35.319
June Third, for a nice,
nice gift to be given to the Trump

1063
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:42.159
campaign. Look for an even bigger
gift to be given to Trump right around

1064
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:46.199
his birthday, day before day after
something like that, which is the middle

1065
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.479
of the month of June. Somewhere
in there. He is a Gemini.

1066
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:53.199
By the way, for those who
you keep a track of astrological stuff,

1067
01:24:55.079 --> 01:25:00.479
I am not surprised, are you. Anyway, So those those two big

1068
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:02.560
things are going to happen in the
next couple of weeks. That is the

1069
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:08.960
plan as it stands. And the
leverage of grievance all of that stuff,

1070
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:12.760
and internal polling might even start to
leak out where they make jokes out of

1071
01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:15.560
it, or it becomes a sidebar
issue or somebody misspeaks or something like that,

1072
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:18.880
where they're going to say, look, we've got polling numbers that show

1073
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:23.680
we have the selection well in hand. But then they're going to pull back

1074
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.079
on it and say we don't know
anything because blah blah blah. And by

1075
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:30.720
the way, wait until this happens
in the next month or two or whatever,

1076
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:33.159
and sentencing in July, which,
by the way, they could delay

1077
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:38.479
the sentencing. They could say it's
too close to the presidential selection that it

1078
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:45.319
could be literally generalized as presidential interference
or selection interference, kicking the can down

1079
01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:49.760
the road, et cetera, et
cetera. And watch as every single real

1080
01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:58.399
penalty evaporates, and even with a
conviction, it can all be tossed.

1081
01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:02.279
All it takes is an appeal qualified
judge, a mistrial declared after the fact.

1082
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:06.520
All of these things are in play, and you're gonna see a variety

1083
01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:12.039
of all of that unfold. As
I've said, any real consequence, whether

1084
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:15.520
it's a real crime or not,
is irrelevant. Any real consequence for any

1085
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:18.760
misdeed, whether it's actually criminal or
it's just kind of shady, it doesn't

1086
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:23.920
matter. Trump has never paid the
price for it and never will. So

1087
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:26.720
for those of you that you know, hate every time I go into a

1088
01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:30.640
discussion about Trump, for those of
you that go waschock so stupid that you

1089
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.680
can't see that Troup is owner said
you're gonna get to claim lots of victories

1090
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:40.039
very very soon. But try to
remember I told you that this is the

1091
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:47.199
way it is already prescripted. Yes, a prescription, you know, something

1092
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:51.640
that's loaded up and intended and set
up to have a result afterwards, and

1093
01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:56.720
I'm gonna hear from all you guys
on Friday hopefully. I love hearing from

1094
01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:00.479
Jimmy James, but I want to
hear from more than Jimmy James. Tomorrow.

1095
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:04.039
Maybe we'll get into some dirty dollar
bets on the open mic Friday Night.

1096
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:09.079
Maybe we'll do that because it sounds
like a hell of a lot of

1097
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:14.600
fun to me, and I think
we all need a dirty dirty dollar bet

1098
01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:19.520
night. Do you agree? Do
you disagree? I hope you agree.

1099
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:25.079
But whether you disagree or not,
join us tomorrow night. Call in be

1100
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:28.359
part of the show. Here's another
fun thing. If you guys all do

1101
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:32.840
that tomorrow, I'll extend the time
of the show because I know I'll be

1102
01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:36.479
able to Tomorrow night. I'll be
able to extend the open mic night.

1103
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:43.520
If you guys participate, give me
a reason to keep the Friday night open

1104
01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:46.399
mic a role, and I will
because here's another problem we're gonna have.

1105
01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:49.279
It seems to me as though,
based on what I saw b Pete Leigh

1106
01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:54.840
in the chat room earlier today,
he's gonna have a few things to say.

1107
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:59.600
So if you want to get in
on it, I think you're gonna

1108
01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:04.800
have to join us Tomorrow night.
And participate here live on o'helly dot com

1109
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:09.800
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1110
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:13.880
Please tell me something different, Speak
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1111
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:18.000
Tell me I'm crazy, tell me
I'm wrong, tell me my sources out

1112
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:23.319
of his mind, and watch as
it all unfolds. Because this is the

1113
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:26.680
plan. Whether it actually happens this
way or not, I don't know for

1114
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:30.359
sure. I've never been good at
predicting this stuff, but I'll tell you

1115
01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.319
I know where to put my money
if somebody wants to put a Vegas line

1116
01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:38.800
in front of me on what's going
to go on in November regarding the presidential

1117
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:43.720
selection. I know where we're going, folks, how we're gonna get there,

1118
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:45.680
what stops along the way, and
what the scenery might look like.

1119
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:49.319
Well, that could be different,
but not too much different than what I've

1120
01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:54.880
already told you, because that is
indeed the plan they want you to trust,

1121
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:58.800
baby, don't forget that. Trust
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1122
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1159
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call it the truth about the DAFA
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1162
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you want to know? Dy Baker's
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1163
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knew Ruby and Barry handswer weapons,
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1164
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have four wheels. It doesn't make
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1165
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