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Missed and dross I literally can find
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town names. Oh it's limits,
Linus. I just kept I'm looking everything

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done in the house. I'm I
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I was excited about that fifty nine
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you're excited about the wind, but
that sty nine coming up next, we're

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Rudy Giulietti's past drag performances, all
part of an elaborate sting operation to expose

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child traffickers. Will ask Rudy himself
right after this brief time out. It

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is the Sunday Sloper News magazine.
You know it by the intro, hopefully

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issue number three. Anyway, I'm
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not the Ocelli effect here on a
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really for Aaron Franz and his rather
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Uncle the broadcast which will come up
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don't care what time it is,
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at the one weird thing that I'm
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com. Like I said, normally
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tonight we got a special co host, the guy, the Man Okay Porkins

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policy Review. That's right, I
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the o'celly house, I gotta bring
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especially given the topic for tonight.
So Pierce, how you doing?

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Man? I am good, Chuck, it's I'm glad to be here with

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you on a Sunday. I don't
I don't know the last time that I've

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ever I do have recorded stuff on
Sundays, but I don't know the last

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time in quite some time that I've
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I don't think you and I have
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together. So this is like a
rare thing every other day of the week,

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unless it was like a New Year, you know, that could have

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been and in that case it would
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past what five six years, I've
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you know you're invited to this year
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to that in January after we take
our pause in November, because I am

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going to Dallas in about six weeks. So anyway, Pierce, you already

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know the topic. We got to
tell them there has been recent news about

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a very old story. Now.
I got introduced to this story some years

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ago, and it seemed to be
fodder only for the all media. The

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mainstream certainly didn't want a piece of
this, and I thought for a long

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time it was because prominent, well
known names kept coming up in these discussions,

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this underground thing that people were getting
aware of. Well, with the

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exception of one newspaper, one mainstream, regular kind of newspaper in Florida seemed

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to be covering this and nobody else. And then I heard guys like you,

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An Opperman, and a few others
really digging into the Jeffrey Epstein case.

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Now, since then, he's entered
popular culture. Even you know,

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Bill Maher and family guy have made
jokes about Jeffrey Epstein killing himself and such,

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you know cartoons. Yeah, Jeffrey
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okay, And it's just an aside. Saturday Night Live probably, I

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don't know. I don't watch that
krab No more Law and Orders featured him

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very prominently. And by the way, again, I'm trying to resist doing

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the Sunday sloper only on courtroom drama
because you can get through crime podcasts everywhere.

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But unfortunately that seems to be the
picks of what keeps coming up is

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a lot of stuff where we could
spend time in the courtroom. Uh,

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you know, and we went through
the concept of wrongful deaths recently and a

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few other things. It's been odd, but this one is, you know,

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the ugly story that keeps getting uglier. And of course people want to

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talk about child trafficking, about trafficking
in general. Well maybe actually not trafficking

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in general. Child trafficking seems to
be the great dog whistle. But let's

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go back in time. You focused
on this for a bit and felt dirty

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for it after a while. I
think that would be accurate. Yeah,

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I think that's a that's a polite
way of saying it. And where did

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you come into this, Like,
what was it that gots you hooked?

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Into Oh man, I got to
expose this. Nobody's really talking about this

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because usually that would be the kind
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whether it was geopolitics or it was
the dirty underworld and the dirty world,

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this is what you did. So
how did you get into it? By

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the way, and give us a
you know, a general sort of here's

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the history of it, Here's how
it evolved over time. Yeah, I

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guess. Uh, I think And
I know I've talked about this before on

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my show and on other other shows, and I hope I'm not like with

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age and time, I'm not contradicting
myself. But I think that I had

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first heard about it, I want
to say, like reading in the Daily

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Mail, Uh, and it seemed
sort of fantastic, this fantastic story,

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and I didn't really know if I
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saw some stuff on like radar online
talking about it. And this was,

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uh, you know, mainly after
the fact too. This was not in

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two thousand and six when the you
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This was not when he was sentenced. This was well after the fact and

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had something to do with some victims
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of there was some I don't even
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but there were people that were involved
in the original sort of investigation, and

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ultimately, you know, we're we're
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that began to kind of funnel their
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through uh, some reputable and some
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stories began to kind of surface,
right, and then I think both of

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us experienced the personal proximity because you
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is a private investigator and gets himself
involved in these kinds of things one way

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or another, whether he's employed or
he's you know, something I can never

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quite make out sometimes exactly how he's
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and you and I were definitely working
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friendly with each other's shows, this
kind of stuff. So I think that

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might have been part of what drew
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time, I would say, yeah, And I mean, if people want

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to, you know, what I'm
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is the former Secretary of Labor under
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initial investigation that happened in twenty seven, two thousand and eight that resulted in

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Jeffrey Epstein pleading guilty to solicitation of
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which is related to that as well. Anyway, he started kind of trying

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to rewrite the story, which is
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don't know why he was even trying
to do that, because really no one

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cared. No one really knew what
this story was. It was something that

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was being reported again in the Daily
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Prince Andrew. These photos of Prince
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and people that were victimized by Jeffrey
Epstein. So that kind of piqued my

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interest. And I think that if
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it was also at a time when
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in the conspiracy media and the sort
of conspiracy radio environment, And you know,

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I think, I don't want to
say that I was more gullible,

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but I was certainly like, WHOA, what is that? You know.

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I think that a lot of people
experience this like when and it's not specific

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to like conspiracy theories, but it
is. It's there. But just like

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when you start to learn something right, like you start to learn knowledge about

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whatever a topic is, and you
know, the endorphins start kind of like

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firing off in your brain and the
dopamine, you know, hits you.

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And there was a little bit of
that with this, where I was like,

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oh, what is what's this the
dark secret underbelly? And also in

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a very uh, you know,
in a non outruistick way, in a

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very sort of self centered way,
I thought, oh, this could be

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my niche. And I don't think
that this is quite the case now,

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But back then, you know,
everyone kind of had like their niche.

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They maybe covered lots of different topics, but they were really into nine to

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eleven. Yeah, they were really
into JFK. They were into they had

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their whole, they had their wheelhouse. It was like, yeah, this

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is the secret society guy, this
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well you know what. Real quickly
here, I have something sort of cued

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up and I don't remember exactly what
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might be really appropriate. Uh.
Some of Epstein's you know, and this

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is stuff that was leaking a long
time ago. Now it's widely available,

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but I mean, this was stuff
that was leaking and we were able to

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get ahold of it in a very
privileged way, you know, like you

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had to know somebody and all that
kind of stuff. But like the depositions

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and things. So let's hear from
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seconds. Maybe I'll jump around on
the clip that I have loaded up here

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for prostitution in New Mexico. Same
answer, have you ever wait, he's

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giving answers about they started he solicited
to a minor for prostitution? Same answer.

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Okay, let's go back just a
little bit. Have you ever been

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convicted of a crime? Here we
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of which you were convicted? Two
counts, one soliciting prostitution and procuring a

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minor for prostitution? Do you in
fact commit those acts? I'm going to

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invoke my fifth Amendment? Right,
How many times have you solicited a minor

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for prostitution? Same answer? How
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prostitution in the state of Florida?
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a minor for prostitution of the Virgin
Islands. Same answer, that is the

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you are involving your fifth Amendment?
Yes, right, business World. Have

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you ever solicited for prostitution in New
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solicited for prostitution in New Mexico?
Same answer? Have you ever solicited for

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prostitution in Paris? Same answer?
Have you ever solicited a minor for prostitution

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anywhere? At any time? Getting
him a certain my right, we're going

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to go up for right, So
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for the recess of the demosition.
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gets uncomfortably squirms. They're just barraging
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again, pretty much except changing,
well, how about New York? How

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about in Florida? And this was
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and nine. And this clip that
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is going to give you a whole
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answers just like that where the guy
gets aggravated, you know, and decides

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he's not going to talk anymore.
He's going to keep asserting his fifth amendment

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right, et cetera, et cetera. I gotta say it looks a lot

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like the deposition of another guy who
we're not going to cover tonight, but

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who continues to repeat a thing that
he's reading all a piece of paper during

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another deposition that has something else to
do with something else that's in the headlines

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currently. Is that revocable trust,
the Donald J. Trump revocable trust dated

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April seven, twenty fourteen, the
same answer, And you are the donor

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of the assets, and that trust
is that correct? Same answer? And

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you are the sole beneficiary of the
assets, and that trust is that correct?

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Spame answer. Anyway you get to
see him, it's a little more

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of a loud clip, but that
that that has to do with lots of

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questions about do you have any answer? And he's reading something that his lawyer

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told him to read, which is
incorporated into my answer. I'm going to

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not assert my you know, I'm
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Uh, you know that whole If
you're not guilty, why do you

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plead the fifth somebody once said that. But anyway, we're not talking about

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him tonight. I just wanted to
point out that he's obviously connected to the

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individual we are talking about. He
is connected, and we saw videos which,

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by the way, I didn't find
it right before airtime, but I

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really should find it and put it
in the show notes. There's videos of

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the two of him together, you
know, even though people say he didn't

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really know him, etc. But
you know what, I don't care about

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Trump tonight. Let's get back to
the subject at hand. Now we know

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that these depositions were held because of
various suits. Again, maybe we knew

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people who were involved in them.
Maybe we knew reporters covering stuff right then

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and there. We certainly paid attention
to Gallaine Maxwell's trial later. Of course,

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I'm jumping way the hell ahead.
So let's go back into this though.

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I mean, it's an ugly niche, but it was niche, and

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then it blew up and went everywhere. Seems like the specialists in the Epstein

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case had their you know, short
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and the next thing I knew,
the mainstream got all involved in it.

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Post Trump selection. I wonder why, what are your thoughts on that,

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like, how that changed? Can
you describe that for people I don't know?

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I mean you can see. I
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look at it and say, oh, well, you know, of course,

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because the media is all controlled by
you know, some liberal cabal.

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They're all in it together, and
they're only going after him now because they're

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trying to attack Trump. And I
think that there is there's there is some

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credence to that to an extent,
I think, I mean, certainly under

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certain people in the media. But
I think that it's also because he was

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elected president and he had a very
close relationship with this person and with other

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people connected to him, Maxwell and
others. It goes back many years,

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and so I think they are actually
kind of doing their job. And then

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in his cabinet is a guy who
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absolutely, and then he's also then
you know, Trump begins telegraphing messages to

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Maxwell and press conferences and others.
You know, so it's it's not well,

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you know, it's there is something
there. You know, there is

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a reason that they are are following
it. I think though, that also

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they began to cover it, uh
maybe you know more in the way that

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we would have wanted him to cover
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was it become kind of impossible to
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is also thanks to people that came
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that were involved in it, that
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a lot of work went in a
lot of them. Yeah, there was

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the seeking and rest institution. And
this guy got away with murder here basically,

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not murdered directly, but the idea
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he only served this little bit of
time and he got to go out on

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furlough. He was only staying in
the cell a special place, blah blah

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blah, the whole bit, all
right. And I don't even want to

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exhaust people with that because you know
it, and if you don't know it,

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I'm gonna provide you with some links
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But I saw it not as oh, they're going after it because of Trump.

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I thought they were going after it
finally, because everybody on the other

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side, you know, in the
alt media side or the conspiracy culture side,

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was screaming, yeah, you know
why you don't want to do this.

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Because Oprah was on the plane,
because Katie Kirk was there, because

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there's you know, seriously, and
all those names do come up. I

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mean, Kevin Spacey. You know, I could throw the names Bill Clinton,

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a hundred celebrity names I could throw
out there that had connections dealings with

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this guy, you know, and
then it was like, hey, we've

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been telling you for years that he
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you know, and yeah, so
yeah, this whole perfect storm kind

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of form. Well, I think
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when it became uh like unavoidable,
and when there were more lawsuits and stuff

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that was also uh you know,
that was still within the sort of the

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kind of like height of the me
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too it completely ignore it would be
like hypocritical. You know, It's like

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you're, okay, we're going after
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you know, who is arguably a
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you know, prolific in abuse.
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to kind of cover all of it. And I think that they were.

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you know, there were the power
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politics, and stuff. They I
think people begin to realize this guy doesn't

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have the juice that he had,
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it. Maybe that was also also
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if me too really did have a
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after all, people would say,
look, obviously, you guys are going

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after doctor Cosby, uh, you
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most powerful media stars on the planet
at one point, you can't go after

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this guy, you know what I
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the other real push here is that, look, you're going after I forget

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which comedian it was that was supposedly
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k Yeah, there you go.
And you had Jeffrey Tuban get busted on

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CNN. I thought that was the
most hilarious thing. He's like just on

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a conference call during COVID and hey, you know, look, and I'm

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making jokes, but this is serious
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this, and Gawaine now becomes this
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which like, I don't even know
how to put all this in perspective

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because it's just this weird culmination of
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and it was what was it the
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Palm Beach Post was one of the
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Okay, you know, so one
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but they weren't getting a lot of
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though, is NBC, ABC,
Fox, I think even has a

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Jeffrey Epstein special and everything else.
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Right, we want this guy in
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got to go after him, and
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New York. And now he's not
going to be protected by the sweetheart deal

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in Florida. And the next thing
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the next thing you know, he's
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he was tipped off certainly back in

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Palm Beach. I mean, he
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Jews that he did, but it's
not difficult. And you know, I'm

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sure Ed could speak more to this. You know, his experience and in

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that that that sort of world.
It's not that difficult to get information out

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of the courthouse, you know,
it's not It's not difficult to see,

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Oh there's an arrest warrant out for
me, or they're you know, they're

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they're looking into me. There's a
docket. That's very easy. You know,

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even people like you and I could
acquire that if we had, you

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know, some money in the means. So he knew, I think that,

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you know that, I think he
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be safe and they kind of turned
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you know, which is again,
it's not that important maybe in the grand

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scheme of things, but I think
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safe because I don't know why he
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he was arrested at the airport in
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just something to keep in mind.
Right, I'm not even gonna bring you

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know what I brought up Bill Cosby. There's no link in the show notes.

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And here's why, because he was
actually one of Epstein's neighbors in New

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York. Yeah, just so you
know, he's across the street from Bill

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Cosby, That's why I don't even
need to give you a Cosby article to

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link it. He's just linked by
proximity. And that was, by the

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way, during those depositions, they
said, okay, where's your primary residence?

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How long here? But okay,
where's your big and he had listed

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all his vacation homes. Uh.
It's a really weird thing watching him squirm

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and then stop the deposition, squirm
and stop the deposition, et cetera,

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et cetera. Interesting how you know, certain people attempt to command control of

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everything. Even when they're kind of
being put to the wall of being,

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you know, having the screws put
to him about some of the stuff they've

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done, they still maintain this air
of you know, aggravation that somebody would

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dare challenge them or try to take
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And they reassert their control, okay, by by breaking off the interview,

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by going off the record, by
pulling off the microphone and getting up and

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coming back to the table and sitting
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so on and so forth. I
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treated to. And then he's arrested
and he's in custody and I'm trying to

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get through this history and you know, some mail sketch style here, but

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where where do we need to go
about him being taken into custody and then

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he ends up into tention and what
happens next? I mean, actually I

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have a clip related to what happened
to him next. If you want me

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to just play it, sure we
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a listen and let's see it's it's
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time leading up to and then what
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these were details revealed on NBC News
and looks like it was posted about three

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months ago. But let's take a
listen and see what they have to say

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about Epstein. On NBC Tonight,
Jeffrey Epstein, the multi millionaire and accused

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sex trafficker, was placed on suicide
watch. Epstein was placed on suicide watch

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in late July after he was found
injured in his cell with marks around his

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neck. Record show Epstein described himself
as a coward and someone who does not

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like pain, but according to the
documents, denied being suicidal, saying lots

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to do for legal case, wonderful
life. It would be crazy to take

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my life. Perhaps the most bizarre
revelation in these documents, Epstein mailed a

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letter to another notorious sex offender,
doctor Larry Nasser, the former US gymnastics

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team doctor convicted of abusing young girls. Epstein's letter was returned with no cell

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made present. Jeffrey Epstein took his
life August tenth, as two guards sat

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just fifteen feet from his cell,
failing to check on him. Prosecutors say

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the guards slept and shop online to
avoid jail time. The guards struck a

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deal with prosecutors and admitted falsifying records. Okay, a lot to unpack their

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real quick, but I love how
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you know, I guess this is
what you can do at a correctional

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facility in New York when you're,
what not guarding a high profile person anyway,

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I don't know, you know,
it sounds like a pretty but it's

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it's it's fascinating And people have argued
now about this. Did he kill himself?

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Did he not? Was he whacked? What happened to the cameras?

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Where's the footage? I mean,
all of this, well, the cameras

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supposedly stopped working, you know,
just at the time of the incident,

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you know, and again I mean
maybe that that, I mean, that

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could have happened. But you know, again it's sort of of all the

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places and all the time. I
mean, yeah, it's so clearly I

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think even like so some of the
photos from you know, the marks on

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his neck have come out, and
I mean, it just doesn't seem like

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he just ung himself. But again
I'm not. I mean, I don't

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quote me on any of that.
I am in no way, shape or

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form a forensics expert. Well,
none of us is well ready. Look,

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neither of us is well read in
enough to give an accurate assessment of

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the entirety of the circumstance. Even
with some I do have some forensic knowledge,

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but I will not claim to have
direct knowledge of this case. Enough.

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I've heard things about it. I've
seen statements made by people that are

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supposed to be knowledgeable on it,
and it's all very confusing, to say

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the least. But this is the
history which we find ourselves now getting into.

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Right now, Look, I'm talking
about stuff that happened years ago,

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and now I'm talking about stuff that
happened a short time ago, but still

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a while back with the Epstein case, and somehow I seem to have lost

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Pierce. So I'm going to reconnect
with him and we're going to continue with

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the Jeffrey Epstein discussion here on the
Sunday Sloper. You'll give it for a

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man a fish, and you'll feed
in front of Hey. You'll teach him

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to it the fish you'll give him. You'll give him all right, Mike.

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So we're gonna happen marbeque weather or
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Oh that's girl. That's a type
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right meat. Starting out for a
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maybe we can conodle before you get
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codle chat they face. You'll give
it for a man a fish, and

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you want to know Judie Baker's wild
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answer weapons. Really, I imagine
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It doesn't make me a wagon.
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and and I'm trying to prevent the
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own words and the known evidence in
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areas of drist and missile drissed and
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Over the last two years, hundreds
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office. My brother used to break
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but now he's dead of some rain. I will be moving into our area.

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Did you grab anything would you like
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two pizza out of the frigerator and
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I tried to grab some other things, but they wasn't even working.

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Check your panties about one hundred seventy
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to be pastries. I couldn't warn
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you, I'm sucked. Check your
panties. Indeed. Sunday Sloper and second

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segment, we're focusing on the Jeffrey
Epstein case and why it's a news magazine.

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Why are you going back in history? Well turns out there is some

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news. Uh, and I think
before I get pierced on this, I'm

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gonna just play the last clip I
got lined up because let's just get through

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them, right. Anyways, this
comes from CNBC Television, and I didn't

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mean to grab from CNBC on top
of the NBC clip I already grab.

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But they did a concise job and
covering something here. And we did see

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something about Deutsche Bank and maybe there
was a settlement connected to Epstein, etcetera,

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etcetera that was a little murky.
But also in recent weeks this Carl

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JP Morgan says it has reached an
agreement in principle to settle the Jeffrey Epstein

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sex predator litigation with the US Virsion
Islands with a payout of seventy five million

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dollars. The settlement ends a bruising
episode in which each side accused the other

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of enabling Jeffrey Epstein's abuses and led
to a series of embarrassing disclosures of relationships

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that high ranking bank officials at the
time had with Epstein himself, including one

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former executive who frequented Epstein's private island. Now the Wall Street firm says the

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payments will be divided into three categories. Thirty million dollars will go to US

407
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:25.000
VII charities focusing on social ills,
including fighting human trafficking and sex crimes,

408
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.960
twenty five million dollars will go to
the USVII to enhance the infrastructure and capabilities

409
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.839
of law enforcement there, and twenty
million dollars will go toward legal fees in

410
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.359
all of this. In a statement, JP Morgan says that the settlement does

411
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:42.240
not include an admission of liability,
but the firm quote deeply regrets any association

412
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.599
with this man and would never have
continued doing business with him if it believed

413
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.960
he was using the bank in any
way to commit his heinous crimes. After

414
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.279
all, the bank has their own
heinous crimes to commit, so you know,

415
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.000
we don't want to be involved with
his heinous crimes. And I also

416
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.160
note that every time I see one
of these male announcers sort of choking their

417
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.519
way through this, even though they're
reading off the teleprompter, it's hilarious to

418
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.359
me. I mean, Abby Phillips
was totally choking on camera like the other

419
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:15.119
night. It was amazing. She
could not get nobody. Some some producer

420
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.240
should have brought her a glass of
water just yet, right, Yeah,

421
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.720
I know, it's like, just
take them take a breath. Holy crap.

422
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.640
But these guys literally their throats go
dry having to read this crap because

423
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.400
they know how dirty this sanitized language
really is. But I love the banks,

424
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.000
Like, yeah, this guy's too
hanous for us. You know,

425
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.839
we're the people. We we you
know, we often launder drug money and

426
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.920
murder money and stuff that I was
going to say, it's like that.

427
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.960
You know, drug dealers are fine. Yeah, apparently, you know,

428
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.720
like Shelley Castillo tell us, you
know, the reason why there's all those

429
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.119
banks right there on the border is
because the cartels need to bring their cash

430
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.400
somewhere. Uh, and that's why
the banks are there. Also the car

431
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:59.319
dealerships and duh, use your head. But you know, this guy was

432
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:05.200
too haynous the banks. I love
that anyway, So JP Morgan Chase right,

433
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.799
the conglomerate, the massive banking institution, but also Deutsche Bank in Germany

434
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.279
a settlement and what is it about, Well, take notice, it's this

435
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.440
Virgin Island thing. And at the
time of Epstein's death and when it was

436
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.119
like okay, there's gonna be no
criminal prosecution, now, because you can't

437
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.720
prosecute a dead man, at least
not in America. In some places you

438
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.839
can in absentia blah blah blah blah, but you can continue with all sorts

439
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:36.079
of other litigation. And this thing
in the Virgin Islands is not an American

440
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.680
issue. It's the American Virgin Islands, yes, indeed, but indeed it's

441
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.599
a different sovereign set of rules.
And there is a lawsuit down there,

442
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:50.400
the victims seeking relief from the estate. After all, Lolita Island where the

443
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.640
Lolita Express landed, his place,
his joint. Well, maybe they want

444
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.359
a piece of that. And I'm
not going to begrudge it. I'm not

445
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.240
gonna say anything about it. I'm
just saying that that's something that we noted

446
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:07.200
would still be ongoing long after his
death. And now I leave it to

447
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.800
you, Pierce. I mean,
the recent news kind of shocking. I

448
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:15.360
didn't expect to see a settlement for
probably many more years. But what do

449
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.440
you think. Well, so,
the for context of the listeners, this

450
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:27.079
was settled just before the trial was
set to begin in I believe it was

451
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.559
in early October. It was certainly
in October, but it was you know

452
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.320
that the trial was going to go
forward. They were going, you know,

453
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.800
the Virgin Islands was I an't gonna
bring you know, Chase, and

454
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.400
you know, I don't know,
maybe Jamie Diamond was into a perp walk,

455
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:45.119
we don't know, but that was
you know, set to happen.

456
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:52.000
At the time that the lawsuit was
filed. They were looking for somewhere in

457
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:58.079
the neighborhood of one hundred and ninety
million dollars and ultimately only you know,

458
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.239
settled for seventy five million. And
just before we get into all of that,

459
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:07.880
it's I think it's just important again
for the listeners to note this is

460
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.719
now this is like from Wikipedia,
right, so take this with a grain

461
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:17.119
of salt. But the twenty twenty
two revenue for JP Morgan Chase one hundred

462
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:23.320
and twenty eight billion with a B
dollars right their assets under management, so

463
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:29.280
you know, this is like you're
talking about a vast majority of what JP

464
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:36.039
Morgan owns is three trillion with a
T. And the total assets so that's

465
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.880
like everything, right, you know, which is again I'm not a business

466
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.880
expert, but usually total assets it's
like some of that and stuff that you

467
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.239
can't necessarily just you know, cash
in or something that's a whopping three point

468
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:53.440
eighty seven trillion dollars. I read
in there was an article and we can

469
00:35:53.800 --> 00:36:01.239
link to it in the was it
the Sydney Morning Herald, and they calculated

470
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:09.159
that seventy five million dollars a settlement
is what JP Morgan Chase generates every five

471
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:15.199
hours, right, So this is
a complete drop in the bucket. I

472
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.440
mean even one hundred and ninety million
dollars is a drop in the bucket.

473
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.519
But they you know, they're only
settling for seventy five million. And again,

474
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.199
as you heard in that NBC clip, I mean, a chunk of

475
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:28.360
this doesn't even it just goes to
legal fees, you know. So the

476
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:32.400
Virginians have already spent twenty million dollars
trying to, you know, sue the

477
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:39.719
trillion dollar bank. So I was, I was, I actually was not

478
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:46.239
that shocked at the settlement. I
really didn't see this going. I mean,

479
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.920
maybe it would go to trial,
but I didn't really see anything substantial

480
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.079
coming out of it. You know, they had eventually, after ducking it

481
00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:01.639
for several months, they got you
Diamond to sit down for a deposition that

482
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.239
took place. I think it was
over the course of two days, but

483
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.679
it was maybe totaling something like eight
hours of you know, time that he

484
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:14.639
gave being deposed, and there was
nothing, you know, there were no

485
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:21.199
bombshells that came out of that.
There was nothing really all that major,

486
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:28.119
you know, they were the the
the case itself. This is so I'm

487
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.760
reading from an Axios article. But
the quote, the lawsuit which the US

488
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:38.480
Virgin Islands filed under the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act alleged that JP Morgan facilitated Jeffrey

489
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:44.280
Epstein's sex trafficking venture, not only
by banking Epstein, so just by being

490
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:49.079
you know, allowing him to do
his banking right, you know, and

491
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:54.960
allowing him to withdraw some one point
seven million dollars in cash for payments to

492
00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:02.000
his victims. So again that is
a sizeable sum of money for most of

493
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:07.119
the world, but that is really
not that large of an amount of money

494
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.239
for someone like Epstein, you know. And also you know, he was

495
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.960
making payments like that throughout his life, maybe not quite as large. I

496
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:21.840
don't think that was for one victim. I assume that was spread out,

497
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.920
you know, amongst a bunch of
people. And also you want to comparison.

498
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.960
Look, it's not that large of
a figure. Just to ask Bob

499
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.800
Menendez. Oops, anyway, go
ahead and fear so, you know,

500
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:35.039
I I wasn't. I wasn't shocked. I don't think you know, you're

501
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:40.400
not gonna I'm sorry, no offense
to the Attorney General and the prosecutors down

502
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.679
in the US Virgin Islands. They
were they didn't have a snowball's a chance

503
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.079
in hell of taking down JP Morgan. I mean, that's just never going

504
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.639
to happen. No, but you
did have the ability to aggravate him enough

505
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.880
that has settled and I think that
they did. But still they ultimately they

506
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.679
settled for nothing. They settled for
a fraction of what they were going after.

507
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:06.000
And you know, again, so
this is how I viewed it.

508
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:13.239
I think that the people at I
think people at JP Morgan were like,

509
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.239
do you really want to go to
trial? You know, like they sat

510
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.519
down and they had some sort of
you know, meeting, and they were

511
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.280
like, do you really want to
go to trial? Because here's what we've

512
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:27.920
dug up, you know, here's
what our investigators have found. You know,

513
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:32.320
the fact that Epstein chose the Virgin
Islands is not a mistake. The

514
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:38.559
fact that he that no one ever
prosecuted him in the Virgin Islands is not

515
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:44.719
a mistake. You can go back
to there were a bunch of financial records

516
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:50.159
that came out. This was certainly
after he had been arrested the second time,

517
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.199
where you could see the donations he
was making to all of the local

518
00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:00.800
government figures and law enforcement within the
Virgin Islands. So you know, he

519
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.679
had those people in his pocket.
They knew what was going on. And

520
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.960
in fact, it's come out now
and some of the reporting that you know,

521
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:15.840
JP Morgan did in fact threaten to
go into that in a trial that

522
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:21.519
you know, they you know,
it's been alleged that kind of like but

523
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.039
I know you are, but what
am I look if you think how about

524
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.280
that? You know, yeah,
I mean again, it's being alleged that

525
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:34.440
they there were people within the Virgin
Islands that were helping him get visas for

526
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.760
some of these children that he was
you know, flying in. It's been

527
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:45.079
alleged in the past that you know, he was leaving when he was like

528
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:51.559
under when he was in this sort
of fake prison sentence in Farida, in

529
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:54.559
Palm Beach, where he was allowed
to leave his cell for hours at a

530
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.480
time. It has been alleged.
I don't know if it's been proven,

531
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.559
but it has certainly been alleged that
sometimes he would fly down to his island,

532
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.039
you know. So you know,
and again there I believe this was

533
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.920
people at JP Morgan that we're talking
about, uh, that the Virgin Islands

534
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:17.239
was possibly falsifying some of his sex
offender status and looking the other way.

535
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.920
So I think that you know,
the Virgin Islands looked at the PR and

536
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.760
was like, this is not great. We need to attempt to do something.

537
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.960
Let's sue JP Morgan. We know
we're not going to take them down,

538
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.320
but maybe we'll we'll eventually be a
fly in the ointment to such an

539
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.519
extent that they will be like,
okay, this is really bad PR for

540
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:46.519
us as well. Let's just settle. They'll take this, you know whatever,

541
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:52.920
what is this forty maybe with fifty
five million dollars, they'll you know,

542
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:57.440
okay, ten million is going to
mental health for victims, and then

543
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.960
some of it is, you know, twenty five this million is also just

544
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.599
going into law enforcement investments in the
future. So I guess to prevent this

545
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.360
from happening again, you know,
maybe paying you know, people more or

546
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.840
don't, I don't know what,
so I think it was. I think

547
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.760
that JP Morgan also, you know, they also recently settled. I mean

548
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:22.679
JP Morgan settled two hundred and ninety
million dollars recently, and that was a

549
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.480
bunch of different victims that had come
together and they were suing JP Morgan so

550
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.760
much much larger settlement payment to the
victims, although again two hundred and ninety

551
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:37.480
million, I mean that's got to
be I mean they're making that in less

552
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.119
than a day. Uh, you
know, with all of the the banking

553
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:45.400
interests at JP Morgan is involved in, but still a much larger settlement.

554
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:50.320
And I think the same thing with
that, they didn't want this getting more

555
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:55.039
out of hand than it already had. There was you know Jess Statley I

556
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.239
think is his name, who was
an executive at JP Morgan, who was

557
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:07.639
Epstein's kind of main banker, main
contact there. They've they've actually settled for

558
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:14.079
some sort of uh they have.
JP Morgan started suing him right, you

559
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.559
know, because of his connection with
this guy, and they have made some

560
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:22.719
sort of settlement that is not disclosed. I don't think they were actually trying

561
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.440
to get money although I know that
that was early on in the lawsuit.

562
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.760
They were asking for something I think
in the neighborhood of like eighty million dollars

563
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:37.519
that Statley, you know, they
wanted him to return as compensation, uh,

564
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.920
you know for all these horrible things
that we're going on. I don't

565
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.039
know, maybe see that was just
a court driven way of trying to readjust

566
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.760
his compensation, like so that we
don't look like we were compensating one of

567
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.480
the guys who was working with Epstein
directly. And that's all that is.

568
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.519
That's not even about you know,
correcting the ledger really or the the couple

569
00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:00.880
million or twenty million or fifty million
or whatever they got from him is irrelevant

570
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.480
because it's as you said, I
mean, they can make that in a

571
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.320
less than half a day. So
that's not an issue. The issue is

572
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.639
to probably just adjust his obscene compensation
that he had from the company so it

573
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.079
doesn't look like one of the main
guys, Hey, he walked away with

574
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:21.119
god knows how much money. And
I think that I would assume that in

575
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:28.760
this undisclosed settlement is some type of
NDA that's that's Staley signed. Well,

576
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:30.280
it's probably a layter hell off of
us. Yeah, exactly, like you

577
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.480
know, neither of us will ever
speak about this again in public. You

578
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.559
know, that's it. We will
consider that this is the rich guy right

579
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:38.679
in the check going. Look,
I'm gonna write you this check and we're

580
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:44.719
gonna consider this matter closed forever.
And that's that. You know, that

581
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.159
is the price of you get in
that check. Yeah, but no,

582
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.840
I think that further to your point, I think that the Virgin Islands are

583
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.960
just doing it's it's just a pr
campaign. They've made a lot of hey

584
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:01.039
in the media, but the Virgin
Islands have that uh you know that one

585
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:07.320
of the that along with this massive
seventy seventy five million dollars settlement, they

586
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.599
have also gotten commitments from JP Morgan
that it will implement all sorts of new

587
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.880
policies that will prevent these sort of
actions from going on. And JP Morgan

588
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:21.480
has been very forthright in saying,
no, this this was never agreed to,

589
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.880
This has never happened. We already
have these sort of things in place.

590
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:29.599
This was just a case that slipped
through the cracks, you know,

591
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.559
and and let's just we're done with
this. But you know, the Virgin

592
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.800
Islands didn't get any any sort of
commitment from us. We don't make,

593
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:40.639
you know, commitments like that is
the impression I got. Right, We're

594
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:45.920
going to call this a one time
mistake, and right, even though again

595
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:51.400
there are there are emails that have
come out recently describing you know, people

596
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:55.960
at JP Morgan. I can't remember
if they were. I think they were

597
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.440
actually at another person's house, but
they were describing it as you know,

598
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:08.199
similar to Epstein's, yet less gaudy
and with less nymphets is how they were

599
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:12.199
described in emails. So again,
and this was like, you know,

600
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.079
this was like I don't know,
twenty thirteen or something like that, well

601
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:21.639
after the fact. So, but
yeah, I think it's like many aspects

602
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.480
of this case as it has unfolded, just as it has become much more

603
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:32.199
mainstream, and you've gotten lawyers involved, you've gotten law enforcement, you've gotten

604
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:37.239
the media involved, it has essentially
just been in order to hush up any

605
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:46.320
loose ends. Maxwell has obviously agreed
to some kind of protection plan with the

606
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:50.360
federal government. I mean, she
is not speaking out about a lot of

607
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:55.679
stuff she does know, and no
one is mysteriously finding her hung in her

608
00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:00.320
prison cell. Yeah, I was
going to ask you specifically about out that,

609
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.639
because here's something I know very directly. We're not seeing any updates on

610
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.320
her anymore. Uh. You know, her family for a little while was

611
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.159
coming out saying she was being abused
in prison, this and that, and

612
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.159
all of that seemed to have evaporated. Uh, no more complaints, no

613
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.840
more noise, no more. And
by the way, the conspiracy culture has

614
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.000
also given up on her a bit, because everybody was screaming at first,

615
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.320
well, what's gonna happen. She's
gonna have to reveal some name, she's

616
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.480
gonna try and get herself out of
there, and what do we got a

617
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:36.360
whole lot of you know, crickets, right, yeah. I mean,

618
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:40.280
the one of the last articles I
saw about her was you know it was

619
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:44.599
it was a piece in the New
York Post, and it was talking about

620
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:50.360
how Maxwell is quote unquote revered by
inmates for not working with the FETs,

621
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.679
you know, and that she didn't
crack. And I mean, you know,

622
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.760
maybe that is true. I mean, and again I think that that

623
00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.760
if that is true, which I
could believe, again, that negates this

624
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:07.679
idea that many of us have,
which is mostly perpetrated by the media.

625
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.000
And I know that this is something
that ed Apferman has talked about before,

626
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.800
and he's told me this personally,
and also want to show it's like prison

627
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.639
is not this place where pedophiles are
being raped and murdered, and there's this

628
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:22.719
sort of code of honor. These
guys thrive no matter what. And if

629
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:28.199
that headline is even a little bit
correct, you can see she maxwell the

630
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:34.920
child trafficking, child molesting, you
know, a millionaire, you know,

631
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.800
sort of royal adjacent. She's beloved
by her the inmates because she didn't crack,

632
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.000
you know. And I think that
this is also this idea that well,

633
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.519
of course Epstein was killed because you
know, he was attacked by his

634
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.920
cellmates and stuff like that because he's
a pedophile. I don't think so if

635
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:58.079
he had gotten attacked, which I
believe he did by the Turtle Lyones corrupt

636
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:00.440
cop who he was jailed as,
you know, yeah, the guy he

637
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.840
was in before the actual I think
that was not I think that was I

638
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.199
think someone told him to beat him
up, you know. I think that

639
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.960
was more to to you know,
to maybe to try to silence Epstein,

640
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.000
and perhaps it didn't work, maybe
he was ready to kind of flip and

641
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.199
that's why, you know, take
hung himself. But you know, I

642
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.960
don't think that, you know,
it's just just something to keep in mind.

643
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.480
But that was what I saw.
Women in prison is a different culture

644
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:29.599
than men in prison too, absolutely, absolutely, you know. But I

645
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.119
don't think that a person I think
someone like Epstein would have figured out a

646
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.079
way to survive. No, he
would have. He would have probably had

647
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.480
to make lots of promises and shuffle
some money around and make which he easily

648
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:42.599
could have done. Yeah, I
mean, it wouldn't have been that hard

649
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.480
to get people's commissary accounts, flush
you know what I'm saying exactly. I

650
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.719
mean, it's exactly. I mean, it's not that it is not that

651
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.280
difficult. And again I think that
there is this misnomer. You know,

652
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:58.679
I was just watching this, uh
really interesting. This is sort of a

653
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.519
tangent but really interesting show those on
Apple TV called Blackbird. I don't know

654
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.719
if you've heard of this, Chuck, but it's a it's a true story

655
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:12.079
about a guy who was arrested for
cocaine trafficking and he was actually contracted by

656
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:17.440
the FBI to get this serial killer, Larry Hall to talk about the women

657
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.000
that he had murdered and possibly to
find some bodies. And it's a true

658
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:28.320
story, really interesting adaptation of this. But Larry Hall is a guy who

659
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:34.599
the FBI alleges this guy has killed
forty children, like twelve year old girls.

660
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.079
He's still alive, he's still walking
around prison. No one's killing him,

661
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.320
no one's raping him, no one. You know, it's i mean

662
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:46.119
many times these people they're okay,
you know, So just just something to

663
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.440
kind of keep in mind. I
think that there's a you know, there's

664
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.199
a misnomer. I think part of
what perpetuates that, though, is the

665
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:58.280
very sad story of Jeffrey Dahmer and
and that reality which he is, you

666
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:01.119
know, continues to be popularized,
still putting out more documentaries about him.

667
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.000
Fox even has one Fox Nation as
a brand new one. Yeah, Dahmer.

668
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.480
Netflix capitalized on Dahmer recently. I
mean, it's endless with this guy,

669
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:15.480
and his legend is much larger than
he was even as a serial killer.

670
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.679
So you know, there's that all
going on. Meanwhile, we got

671
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:22.639
one more segment going on with this. Over the last two years, hundreds

672
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673
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674
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brother used to breaking our house and
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675
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of some rain that will be moving
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676
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Would you have to drive nothing but
Tino's pizza out of the fridgerator.

677
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They says, you'll give it for
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678
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in front of day you get into
it. To fish, you give him,

679
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You give him, all right,
Mike, So we're gonna happen barbecue

680
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weather or with meat out there?
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681
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692
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693
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694
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Yeah, because there's a lot of
false promises. There's fools we'd better not

695
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696
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697
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699
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700
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missile. Over the last two years, hundreds have landed in the Summit County

701
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Medical Examiner's office. My brother used
to break in our house and steal the

702
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TV, but now he's dead.
Of some rain I will be moving into

703
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our areas. Did you grab anything? Would you like go to draw?

704
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Nothing but Tortino's pizza out of the
frigerator and my doggie. So I hope

705
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.039
you grabbed two Tortinos pizzas and your
doggie. On the Sunday Sloper and we're

706
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:45.119
gonna close it out here with a
special guest, co host Pierce Redman,

707
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.800
talking about the Jeffrey Epstein thing.
And look it's come up in the news

708
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.360
again. A lot of links,
a lot of stuff I could be discussing

709
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.440
here on the news show, but
we decided to focus on this today.

710
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.800
I thought it would be a perfect
opportunity to do so with my friend Pierce,

711
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.159
because, after all, it has
been making headlines as of late.

712
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.519
We could have talked about, you
know, Jared Kushner's recent issues. We

713
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.840
could be talking about you know,
well we are talking about this, but

714
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.000
we could be talking about the multiple
Trump indictments. We could be talking about,

715
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.440
Oh, I don't know, the
the Biden impeachment. The government didn't

716
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.760
shut down, right, A lot
of things going on. Okay, Uh,

717
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:29.840
Prince Andrew right, I like this
headline by the bye, uh what

718
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:35.000
is it? Foxnews dot Com.
Prince Andrew retreats to uh ball murt whatever

719
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:44.000
that is as yeah as Epstein ties
are, let's see explored in new doc.

720
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:49.559
Expert claims a pr nightmare. The
Duke of York is being profiled in

721
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.960
Secrets of Prince Andrew. Uh so
there you go. Even Fox News is

722
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:57.960
in on the act. Okay.
Uh and also you know the Saudi Crown

723
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:00.320
prince and uh you know, and
well Hunter Biden too. We could talk

724
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.079
about that and Congress arguing over it
while they're doing whatever the hell they're doing.

725
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.079
Or hey, we could discuss the
yelling match that was the Republican debate.

726
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:14.760
Lots of news instead murders Tupos murder. See, I can't even get

727
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:19.320
it all. In Tupos Murder,
they actually finally arrested Kiefe d Baby.

728
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:22.880
I don't know why it took so
long, but there it is. Well,

729
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:28.000
even though not to all attention,
even though he didn't pull the trigger,

730
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.800
or maybe he did, or maybe
he did right or maybe he did,

731
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:35.400
who knows, but he hasn't.
He's never admitted to it. And

732
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.559
he said, oh, well,
everyone else that was in the car was

733
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.880
dead dead. Now there's that,
And you know, The odd thing that

734
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:45.159
was brought up on my co host
on the Friday show is that, you

735
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.800
know, the guy's supposedly had cancer
recently, and maybe he doesn't want to

736
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:52.239
be in the shoe program when he's
trying to go get his chemo, because

737
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.360
you know, if you're a gang
related straight up and you go into Max

738
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:59.679
Triple Max, yeah, they put
you in the segregated housing unit and that's

739
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.519
that you have contact with nobody.
And by the way, the infirmary sucks

740
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:06.639
in there. So you know,
if he gets look, send me to

741
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:10.480
a lesser high security prison so I
can actually have a prison hospital or access

742
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:15.559
to the local hospital. Well,
I get my cancer treatment. Maybe because

743
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:20.559
he's in on a drug charge.
Anyhow, will it matter? And by

744
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:22.679
the way, will it add to
his cred on some circles? You know,

745
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.159
if he is one of the people
really responsible we're killing Tupac. I

746
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.960
don't know. I don't know if
that gets you killed or if that gets

747
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:31.480
you props. I'm not sure.
Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah exactly.

748
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:34.280
Well, I don't know. I
mean, he seems to have been

749
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:38.559
bragging about it even after you know, he would have been safe from jail

750
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:44.199
time related to it. I don't
know why now and why he continues to,

751
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.440
you know, go on you know, radio shows and podcasts talking about

752
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:52.000
being involved in this. But you
know that I don't know that that is

753
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.880
actually that is a whole other episode. But instead we're on Epstein. And

754
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.599
where does this go from here?
Like I said, there are plenty of

755
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:05.519
people in alt world, in right
wing alt world in fact, that are

756
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.800
you know, just adjacent to the
Epoch Times, etc. Who you know,

757
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:14.079
are waiting on the grand reveal here. You know, they're gonna get

758
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:19.199
the rest of Epstein's cohorts, right, They're gonna they're gonna finally expose the

759
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.519
list. And by the way,
people didn't know favors in the conspiracy world,

760
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:27.320
falsifying some of the uh you know, things like to flight manifests and

761
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.000
crap. Uh. And there were
false ones floating around, and there were

762
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:34.440
real ones floating around, and then
there were you know, and like I

763
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.679
said, we mentioned a bunch of
names that were possibly tied to the case.

764
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:40.280
And I don't even know what to
make up all of them necessarily,

765
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.039
except that I'll stand by the idea
that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump both knew

766
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:52.599
him saw him saying there but it
is what it is, and where does

767
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:54.480
it go from here? I gotta
tell you, Pierce, I don't know.

768
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.199
But what do you think? I
mean, are we going to get

769
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.599
a grand reveal? Are we going
to get you know, the I don't

770
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.960
know Gillane deathbed confession? I mean, I know Donald Trump wished her well

771
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:07.840
and all, and so far she
hasn't snitched. But you know, are

772
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.679
we gonna get a deal cut?
Is there going to be somebody that we

773
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:15.239
haven't heard a name before come out
and say, look, I actually know

774
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.119
all what happened and I can lay
it out and I have some paperwork or

775
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:22.840
something. I mean, what are
we going to get here? Or is

776
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:28.960
it just a don't worry, It'll
just go down the memory hole with everything

777
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:32.159
else issue? What do you think? I mean? I think you should

778
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:37.599
never say never, right? I
mean, maybe there will be you know,

779
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:42.639
a grand reveal disclosure, uh,
you know, as as they would

780
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:49.320
say in neuthology. But I highly
highly doubt that. I think that this,

781
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:57.159
this most recent settlement, is more
evidence that they are nearly, if

782
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.559
not done completely, with Tom buying
up all the loose ends. You know,

783
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:06.440
as stated before, Maxwell is in
prison, but it is safe she

784
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:10.880
hasn't said anything, nothing has happened
to her life. They've made, Matt,

785
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:17.760
you know, fairly large sizeable settlements
to a vast uh you know,

786
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:23.840
swath of victims related to this.
Maybe we will see some more cash settlements,

787
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:30.000
but in terms of info, no, they settled with the Virgin Islands,

788
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:34.079
which really didn't you know, have
much and they didn't really take much

789
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.280
to settle, and that was it. I mean again, they were alleging

790
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.119
all sorts of stuff, but when
push came to shove, they didn't want

791
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:45.519
to get involved. I don't see
again, I think this is all just

792
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:52.000
okay, we are done with this
particular topic and buying large in the alternative

793
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:59.079
media, which at one point was
you know, very much on top of

794
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.920
reporting and stuff, that is all
sort of virtually disappeared as well. I

795
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.199
don't see people talking about it.
I don't see people talking about these reasons

796
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.880
settlements. You know, it is
reported in the mainstream media, but only

797
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.360
as just sort of well, this
is what happened today. Okay, that's

798
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:20.079
it. End of story. So
yeah, I don't I don't see the

799
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:23.360
interest in it anymore. And I
say that even for myself, I've sort

800
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:30.559
of lost interest in this, but
in part because there you know, I

801
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:35.199
think when you look at other things
like you know, nine to eleven and

802
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.760
JFK, and these are obviously much
larger topics, there is still information that

803
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:44.000
is coming out, and there is
still tons of information to kind of follow

804
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:49.440
and to explore. There is virtually
nothing else coming out related to this,

805
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.559
And some of that is also because, I mean, you've got a lot

806
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:57.239
of I think you have a lot
of victims and other people who are maybe

807
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.480
not quite victims but are connected to
this, that have signed legal documents.

808
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.239
They're not going to talk about this. You know, you don't see.

809
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:08.800
While it is possible in the future, I don't think you're going to see

810
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:14.000
a lot of like tell All books
either by employees that work for Epstein or

811
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:15.920
people that were victimized by him.
Well, even if they do come out,

812
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:19.239
I don't think the media is going
to pick up on them. I

813
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.280
don't think all media is going to
pick up on them. I mean,

814
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:22.880
there may be a certain segment that'll
try to pick up on it, but

815
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.760
I don't think it'll be very successful. I don't think it'll be very fruitful.

816
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:31.320
No, yeah, exactly. I
think that it's also the saturation of

817
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.559
content on it, I think has
backfired in a lot of ways as well.

818
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:38.119
I think people are kind of bored
with it. They want to move

819
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:44.480
on. And again it's like not
it's no longer the hot topic that it

820
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:49.400
once was, you know. And
and I think that also the people the

821
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:54.719
bar is set so low for people
now because of Epstein, because of Trump,

822
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.079
because of Clinton, because of the
sort of way that they've flaunted this.

823
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:04.199
You know that well whatever, you
know, I mean, it's it's

824
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.079
not really that bad. I mean, I I you know, I've seen

825
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:07.960
a lot of people, uh you
know, on the sort of more far

826
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:13.800
right media, Well, howbould they
kick their own legs out from under them

827
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.760
by desensitizing their audiences, because look, they're already saying, look, these

828
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:22.480
are satanic people that eat children.
Yeah exactly. You know, they had

829
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.760
whole pizza restaurants devoted to this.
They did this, they did that,

830
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:29.840
They had torture chambers, they had, you know, Epstein starts to look

831
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.320
small compared to the grand in league
with I mean, look, you could

832
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:35.840
be a pedophile, but you're not
in league with Satan, are you?

833
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:40.760
You know what I mean? I
know it they almost oversold some of the

834
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:45.239
you know, spirit cooking and the
dark arts and it's satanic and it's black

835
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.880
magic, and well that's a whole
lot more interesting than the guy who just

836
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:52.519
had a thing for the young ones. I think what was it Trump said?

837
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:54.920
Oh he likes them young, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

838
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.920
on them on the younger side,
on the younger side, yeah, on

839
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.280
the wave. That's like, I
see all these like right wing people going

840
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:06.920
on and on about like Zelenski and
whatever, that scene in his awful TV

841
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:11.639
show where he plays a piano with
his penis, and it's like, yeah,

842
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.840
but you voted for Trump. This
is a guy that did way worst

843
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.599
thing, said way worse things in
public, like all the time, you

844
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:21.440
know, and you're okay with that. So it's like, so, why

845
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:25.199
the hell would I care about what
Zelensky did? You know? I mean,

846
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.800
it's like and I think that it's
it's it's actually worked against them.

847
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.039
I mean, they the bar is
so low. I mean it's like this,

848
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:33.840
I saw, you know, some
of these stuff with uh, you

849
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:39.559
know, Juliani, these stories coming
out about him growing women you know at

850
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.920
the you know, when they're gonna
take back Washington and whatnot. I mean

851
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:46.360
just the borat video alone. It's
I mean, you know, this is

852
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:54.079
this is America's mayor and out and
now that girl coming out with the bombshell

853
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:57.480
right like he's sticking his hand under
my dress, you know, right there?

854
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.320
Ya yawn exactly. I know.
I mean it's a shame because it's

855
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.480
like I can't imagine what, you
know. I mean, it really does

856
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:08.559
feel like Rome is burning. Like
if this was twenty years ago, you'd

857
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:11.000
be like, holy crap, I
can't believe I just heard that. Now

858
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.960
it's kind of like, yeah,
what else you got? Yah know exactly.

859
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:15.280
It's like, yeah, but was
he eating a baby? Yeah?

860
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:19.440
Was he like, you know,
murdering children and ordering up sex slaves from

861
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:24.199
Toronto at the same time, Yes, unless he was doing that and praying

862
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:28.760
to Satan. I mean you shipping
them in wayfair packages, wayfair? What

863
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:31.719
in the hell is that? I
don't even know what that is. I

864
01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:36.840
hear that stupid jingle because they like
totally saturated me with that on all these

865
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:41.800
different ads, you know, and
that that jingle. I hear that jingle

866
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:44.320
and I'm like, I think it's
evil just because of the jingle, but

867
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:48.400
the weirdness of your shipping children in
wayfair packages. What the hell? I

868
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:53.360
mean, where's it's like that we
talked about the Celestimo was on It's Ducker

869
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:57.800
interviewing that guy claiming that he had
sex with Obama. I mean, who

870
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:00.280
cares it was? If that is
even true, which I doubt it they

871
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.039
was, they had consensual sex.
Who cares? Like, I mean,

872
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:09.000
it's not even that. We like, you're talking about way stranger stuff all

873
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:12.400
the time, right, Like,
what does that matter? Right? And

874
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:15.599
he wasn't president, He wasn't he
was nobody back then. But we actually

875
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:20.400
live in an age where a guy
in congressional testimony was sitting there saying basically

876
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:25.920
what every conspiracy theorist has been begging
for them to say for about I don't

877
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:29.880
know, fifty years, and this
guy said it, and the mainstream in

878
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:33.400
all media kind of went, well, that's interesting anyway, Yeah, you

879
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:38.599
know, like that's this guy was
saying, we have alien technology, right,

880
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:42.000
we've reverse engineer, reverse engineered it
like this. This would be like

881
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.039
the dream in the seventies, eighties, nineties, the two thousand opts.

882
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:49.000
The people would be dreaming of this
and it happened, and they kind of

883
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:54.320
went, yeah, I don't know
though. Wouldn't that be like the ultimate

884
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:57.880
sort of like you know, when
we actually do get disclosed, like that

885
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:01.079
was disclosure and we're like, I
don't really care, you know, I'm

886
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:03.079
just gonna go onto, you know. I mean, they could trot out

887
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.159
an alien in Congress. See that's
what I'm saying, and they would be

888
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:10.239
like, yeah, but look,
what about the babies being you know,

889
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:14.360
yes, sacrifices. I'm thinking one
hundred and twenty foot Jesus could do battle

890
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.960
with Godzilla on Manhattan Island right now, and people would go, that looks

891
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.840
fake. Even though their buildings are
getting knocked down. They'd go, that

892
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:25.320
looks fake and they'd go, it
must be bloom Beam, So what ignore

893
01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:30.159
it? Right? And that would
be it. So Porkins Policy Look,

894
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:31.679
I know you haven't been doing a
lot at your website. Feel free to

895
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:35.199
post this. I'll send you the
audio and U and the graphic for the

896
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:39.960
show. Obviously, you got anything
coming up that you're doing or anything you

897
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.960
want to promote or should people just
go over and you know, check out

898
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.039
your passwork at Porkin's Policy review dot
com. Yeah, I would encourage them

899
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:50.239
to check out the passwork I would
also encourage them to probably go to a

900
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:57.119
Cheli dot com because I am really
bad about posting a lot of power recent

901
01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:00.639
episodes, but I will try to
remedy that. But I think in the

902
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:02.480
meantime, if you go to a
Chelly dot com you can find you know,

903
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:06.159
we've been We've been on and off
doing some stuff for the past couple

904
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:09.559
of weeks, and I, you
know, I hope to be doing a

905
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:12.679
little bit more of that as well
well when you have time. When you

906
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.360
have time, and I'd be more
than happy if you can even find your

907
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.479
show intro if you want to drop
in and do a surprise Porkins policy,

908
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.800
Yeah, I would love to do. I might maybe, you know,

909
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:26.439
and I generally don't like doing this
on air because then you kind of held

910
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:30.079
to it, but I would.
I am interested in actually maybe doing something

911
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:33.600
on my own show related to the
TUPAC stuff, because I find this really

912
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:39.680
fascinating why it's coming out now and
the way it's being reported, and again

913
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:44.800
just the circumstances of it are so
strange. So that might be something maybe

914
01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:48.560
we could do. You know,
we'll do We'll do like a live special

915
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:53.880
show for you. Porkins return of
Perkins. Nice. That sounds perfect.

916
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:57.319
I'd love to hear that and just
sit back and produce it. Anyway,

917
01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.439
you guys, I hope you've enjoyed
Sunday Sloper. Now look and in about

918
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:02.760
like say, forty five minutes or
so, Aaron Fronz will start. If

919
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.840
you're on the live stream, Aaron
Fronz will start with the age of Transitions,

920
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:09.720
and then the next hour will be
uncle the broadcast. But if you're

921
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:12.119
hearing the podcast, you're probably gonna
have to go and get it from my

922
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.359
feed and you can get both shows
together on my feed or go to Aaron's

923
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:17.000
website and get it. Get them
over there. I don't care. Just

924
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:21.439
get the shows and we'll we'll continue
to do this thing on Sundays. And

925
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:27.079
meanwhile, keep an eye out because
Porkins will keep popping up again unlike he

926
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:31.359
unlike the character in the Star Wars
movie. But anyway, although he did

927
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:38.279
return, that's true. Catch you
next time. Guy in a day you

928
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:51.319
teach into it, give him to
give him all right, Mike, So

929
01:09:51.399 --> 01:10:02.800
we're gonna have to marbecue weather or
meat up there. Oh that's girl,

930
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:17.319
Now, I love those starting out
for a full look at your forecast with

931
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:23.239
a start, and maybe we can
connodle before you get into it about We're

932
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:32.359
not gonna be cannuling coodle min chap. It's gonna be areas of drissed and

933
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:38.000
missile drissed and what am I send
here? Missed and dross I literally can

934
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:42.760
find both. Here's some other great
town names. Tis oh, it's Linus,

935
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:51.199
Linus. I just kill me.
I'm looking everything done in the house.

936
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:56.239
I'm I got skate, I dropped
my hot pocket. I'm so excited

937
01:10:56.239 --> 01:11:00.439
about that. Fifty nine. That's
pretty good ten years. I know you've

938
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:09.039
said it about the wind, but
coming up next, we're Rudy Giuliani's past

939
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:15.520
drag performances, all part of an
elaborate sting operation to expose child traffickers.

940
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:17.680
Will ask Rudy himself right after this
brief time out

