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All right, welcome back, and
joining us now is James Ruguski. You

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can find him on substack at James
Roguski. That's r. O. G

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Uski James Roguski dot substack dot com. And I wanted to get him on.

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As I said earlier in the program, nobody has Who was the first

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person to really to alert everybody to
what was going on with the who the

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so called Pandemic Treaty and then the
second document that they're using to kind of

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muddy the water, which appears to
be the more dangerous document, the International

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Health Regulations. So I wanted to
get an update from James about what is

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going on with this as well as
people pushing back with it, because they

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keep doing the same things. It's
very similar what they do with these different

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tactics, and so here we got
another yet another so called document, global

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document that they're going to claim gives
them some kind of illegal to control us.

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So joining us now is James Guski. Thank you for joining us,

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James, good to have you back
on. Oh, David, thanks for

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having me. You know, I
think you were the very first person to

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give you an opportunity to have a
you know, a platform to share this

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with its probably about two years ago
now, yeah, and you know,

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I actually want to start off by
talking about the image behind you with all

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the trees, because I think I
think I can give an analogy to what

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is really going on. So let
me see if I can paint a mental

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picture be able to see the forest
for the trees. Well, you know

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exactly. That's the other that's the
other one. If you could imagine walking

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down the little lane there in like
sort of a wooded area with your dog,

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and your dog breaks off fleash and
sees the squirrel and goes and chases

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the squirrel up one of those trees, and you noticed that the squirrel went

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up to the top and was going
across the tree tops and was way on

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the other side the woods, and
your dog is still barking up the tree

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that he's all, Okay, this
is what we're dealing with right now.

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Okay. A slightly different analogy.
If you can imagine being in a contract

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to negotiations and you're you're looking for
a job and you put your demands down.

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You know, somebody wants to hire
you, and you want a certain

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wage, and you want vacation and
you want healthcare, you want benefits,

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and and you know, you throw
in there a couple of things like,

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well, I want to use the
company Maserati and the company yacht, and

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you know, I want to have
you know, twenty personal assistants and all

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these many other things. Negotiations often
start out with some crazy demands that you

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know, if nobody's paying attention,
and you sign off on it and it's

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given, Wow, that was great. I never expected to get those crazy,

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crazy things. But then you know, at the end, when it's

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push comes to shove and you've got
to make it. You know, this

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decision and signed the contract, you
go, okay, I'll do without the

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Maserati, but I want all these
other basic things. This is what's going

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on. I don't know if people
watched the TV show from a decade or

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so ago. I didn't really watch
it, but I know about it.

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It's called pumped, right, everybody's
getting pumped. Oh look over here,

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Look over here, there's a squirreld. Look at these look at these horrible,

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horrible things. But what's really going
on in the background nobody's paying attention

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to. So you know, there's
a lot of decoys being pushed around,

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a lot of things that a lot
of things that were in the documents when

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we first talked two years ago.
There are a lot of things that were

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in the documents A year ago,
four months, four weeks ago, I

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published a leaked version of the negotiating
text of the amendments. I thought I

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found the holy grail. I was
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other document, the quote unquote treaty, and one of the local Geneva Civil

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Society organization's nonprofit whatever, you know, one of the insiders who has a

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seat at the table, made the
mistake of publishing something that they weren't really

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supposed to publish. I was,
you know, blasted by the heavens to

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stumble upon it. I republished it, and they quickly took theirs doubt because

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somebody must have said, hey,
you let it out, what are you

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doing? And David, I might
as well have dropped it into a black

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hole. People still want to look
at the old documents. They're still barking

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up the wrong tree, chasing the
old squirrel who's long gone. And last

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week I published, I should say
I republished because of all places, Politico

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was the first one to leak it. A leaked version of the other document,

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the Amendment, and we can talk
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like to get into just a little
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them. When I published the secret
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the secret version of the new proposed
treaty, it was almost a year to

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the day that I published an article
about someone that most people probably don't even

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know, Ambassador Pamela Hamamoto. She
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Obama, so make of that what
you wish. But she was nominated over

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a year ago in October twenty twenty
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the lead negotiator for this pandemic treaty, and over a year ago. The

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Chinese delegate stood up in their April
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we want, meaning China, we
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sense that we don't want to publish
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into the agreement. And who stood
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Pamela Pamela Hamamoto from the United States
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this all under wraps and keep it
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I republished. Have the edits of
this nation said that they want to change

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this, and that nation said that
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So, you know, the secret
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reason why they don't want anyone to
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despite what everyone is saying, you
know in the alternative media about the old

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squirrel that ran up the tree and
is long gone, with the documents from

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well over each year ago, the
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So the last meeting that was supposed
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When they set up their original schedule, they were going to be done

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the first week of December. They
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amendments to the International Health Regulations Review
Committee, and it was supposed to be

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submitted before January twenty seventh of this
year, twenty twenty four. Well,

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in October I reported that their co
chair said, we're not going to make

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our deadline. They know that they
were not able to reach agreement. You

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know, get in FT one hundred
and ninety four delegates from nations around the

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world over to your house for a
pizza party. And see how long it

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takes to figure out what they want
on their pizza. Now, let me

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ask you that you saw some of
the edits and it said some of you

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know, this is what one nation
wants, this is what another one wants.

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What are the points of disagreement that
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We'll talk about the two separate documents, because there's two separate things going on

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in there, and in the amendments, they were supposed to be done by

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December, supposed to be public four
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And so what ended up popping up
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documents is they want to strengthen the
ability of nations to quarantine foreign travelers who

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are traveling internationally. Now, we
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just imagine the irony and the hypocrisy
of having an open southern border and you're

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negotiating, you're negotiating to This is
often confused. So I'm going to take

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my time and try to be very
precise. This is not the who saying

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that the nations have to do this, that or the other. This is

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a gentleman's agreement amongst one hundred and
ninety six nations in the IHR, where

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they are essentially saying, well,
we know that we can't force our people

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to do jabs or you know,
drugs, or quarantine or all those sort

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of things, but we have all
of the right in the world to do

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it to all of the members of
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We can use foreigners who want to
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familiar with the story with Novak Djoy
convict, the tennis player, yeah,

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you know his name is Novak,
but he's living up to it because he

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wouldn't get the vaccine and so he
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it was the US Open and other
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in, not just because he wasn't
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His rights are not protected by our
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lot of talk going around right now. People are trying to get states to

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pass resolutions or laws saying, oh, the who doesn't have jurisdiction in Louisiana,

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right, there's a Senate bill one. Well, no shit, Sherlock,

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right, of course, the who
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the Union. That isn't the issue. There's no state law that is going

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to protect you when if you're from
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and you want to disembark in the
Bahamas, and the Bahamas say, well,

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you know, we're going to institute
our quarantine on your ship because you

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know, somebody didn't pass a rapid
antigen test and there might be some scary

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disease on mm hmmmm. Everyone is
barking up the tree on the left and

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they're sneaking in stuff that nobody's paying
any attention to. And there's a certain

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symmetry to that to what happened with
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in twenty twenty. And you go
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attack a week after nine to eleven, which is two months after their Dark

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Winter simulation. But then they put
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attack, they put out some model
state health legislation and they said, here's

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what if we declare there's a pandemic, here's what we would like for you

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to put into law so that you
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And so after all this stuff runs, you know, we hear from people

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trying to make excuses for Trump or
trying to make excuses for Fauci, or

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Fauci making excuses for himself. I
didn't order anybody to do anything. I

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don't have that power. I made
recommendations. And of course we've got Fiat

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currency to back up our Fiat orders
and flood them with cash, declare an

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emergency, flood them with cash,
and let the rest of this stuff happened.

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It's going to be, as you
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a very subtle way that they get
exactly what they want, whether they do

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it with the international stuff. One
of things that concerns me is you're pointing

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out the hypocrisy of the absurdity of
having a wide open southern border, and

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it's got a lot of different issues
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is a lot of people who oppose
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standpoint and saying, oh, we've
got all these people coming in with measles

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and all the rest of the stuff. We've got to lock that down and

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we have to have stricter controls,
and that kind of thing can backfire,

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just like you know, well,
we've got all these people coming in that

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are illegal aliens, so all of
you need to get an ID, all

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of you need to get some kind
of a vaccine ID or permit or something

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like that, because we've got people
coming in from the border, so they

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can use things like that to push
their agenda. And we've got to be

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careful that we don't become suckers for
that, and that we take a look

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at what the longer term agenda is. I think, what do you think

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I'm going to have to charge you
rent for taking up presidence inside my head?

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Take the words outside, take the
words right out of my mouth.

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That's exactly the point. What happened
with the decoy. With the original documents

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were language that was convoluted because it
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I can still remember I was sitting
right where I'm sitting right now when I

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read the document for the first time, and India had proposed a change to

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Article three. They proposed crossing out
language that was in you know, is

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currently in the International Health Regulations.
They would cross out the words that said

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the regulations have to be implemented with
full respect for the dignity, human rights,

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and fundamental freedoms of people. They
would cross that out. Well,

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I remember my jaw hanging open,
going oh, well, that's crazy,

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and I pushed my jaw back up
and it came right back down, and

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I'm like, Okay, this is
insane. There's no way in Oh wait

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a minute, that's a decoy.
That's them saying, oh, look over

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here, and so you've got to
dig in deeper. It's like, well,

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what are we not looking at?
And so I've spoken to people in

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India and at some point they said, oh, that was just a misunderstanding.

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We've retracted that. Okay. Now, Bangladesh and the African nations.

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The reason for these negotiations they called
for them on December first, twenty twenty

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one. It's not the who said
we want to take over the world.

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It's the relatively poor nations. We're
dealing with something that, you know,

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you have to erase the blackboard of
your mind and forget everything you've talked about

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and everything you know, because that's
going to get in the way. You've

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got to let yourself be stupid for
a moment. And here's what is actually

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going on in the end of twenty
twenty one, after twenty twenty and COVID

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and then a year of everybody getting
jabbed like that was going to stay the

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world the relatively poorer nations. Think
about you know, South Africa and Botswana

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they identified Omicron and they handed over
the genetic sequences, just like you know,

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China the WHIV one was handed over. You know, think about that

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genetic sequence and how many hundreds of
billions of dollars that data file was worth.

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It's the new gold rush. They
turned that into you know, Pfizer,

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Maderna, Astrozanica, everybody else billions
of dollars. So when South Africa

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and Botswana handed over Omicrons, you
know sequence, believe about you know,

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vaccines or rather viruses and terrain theory, whatever you want, it is undeniable

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that there was a digital file that
was said to be this new variant.

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Well, they were not happy because
they were greeted with travel restrictions, hurt

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their economy, and then they washed
Pfizer and Maderna turned that into a couple

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of more billion dollars by putting it
into the booster. So what they're actually

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negotiating it says in the treaty principles
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In the amendments, they said,
you're not getting any more sequences unless

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we share in the benefits. They
want to create what they call a pathogen

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Access benefit sharing system. Will give
you our biological weapons data. You could

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go turn it into drugs and jabs, but you're going to have to share

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the profits with us. So this
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is a corrupt business still. I've
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you're familiar. You know, the
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OPEK is the Organization of Pandemic Emergency
Corporations. What they what they want with

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the treaty is thirty billion dollars a
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how to print money or digitally create
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a fund that would be governed by
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of the Parties, which should be
reminiscent of, you know, the Framework

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Convention for climate change. You sign
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then you have a bunch of unelected
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get together and decide the fate of
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to a blank agreement, whatever they
decide, you know, somehow finds its

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way into your local laws. They
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a year to go looking for pathogens. You know, they refer to them

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as pathogens with pandemic potential. Whenever
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pandemic profiteering potential. So then they
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WHO coordinated laboratory network so that you
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Virology on every street corner. Bring
in your pathogens that you find in your

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septic system or your you know,
sewage treatment wastewater. The CDC is monitoring

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wastewater around the country. Just go
look it up, you know, wastewater

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surveillance CDC all around the world.
They're doing that there. They're taking blackwater

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out of the bathrooms and airplanes when
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They might want to they might want
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your pig stye, or your you
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you go to veterinarian's office. Because
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might need to go to the local
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into the lab so that they can
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money, make some products. And
then in the amendments. Currently people maybe

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are aware that the Director General can
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International Concern e H, E I
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stuff up. He can declara fake. That's in the International Health Regulations from

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two thousand and five. Well,
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of the amendments is an early action
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zero requirements to declare fake, just
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that a pre fake, and then
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which is called a pandemic emergency.
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tweak them a little bit in the
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jabs, and then find some compliant
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overstep their authority and do some kind
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oh we found this pathogen. Oh, one bird died in the flock of

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the million, and we cranked up
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you know they had bird flu.
We got to kill all your birds,

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or we got to jab all your
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put you in quarantine or whatever it
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for the hypnosis psychological operation from the
World Hypnosis Organization the WHO, they're going

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to keep doing it because it's really
really profitable. And the treaty is essentially

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a trade deal. It is constitutional. Now this hurts people's heads, I

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know. Article one, Section three. I'm sorry. Article one, Section

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eight, Clause three, it's the
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the enumerated authority by the original States
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So if we want to give billions
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oligarchs in the Third World who are
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and mRNA manufacturing facilities so that they
can get in on the deal to scare

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people and make products, to jab
the black and brown people that the big

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farmer missed the first time around.
Is that how you would prevent the next

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pandemic? Or is that how you
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racketeering organization, you know, a
crime syndicate to profiteer from the next scary

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thing. Well, do you recall
I'm sure you probably do event too OH

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one. Yeah, okay, the
same group that did event to OH one

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in October of twenty nineteen. In
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put on catastrophic contagion and what they
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outbreak of an enterovirus that hits children
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I don't know if you've reported on
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pay attention to east east eastern Venezuela, which is the country of Guyana.

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That Venezuela has been rumbling that they
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I wonder why could it be that
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there's you know, all kinds of
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planned or i should say, the
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in eastern Venezuela. Catastrophic contagion.
So I noticed, and this is back

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in October of twenty twenty two,
that they neglected to reserve the domain name

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catastrophiccontagion dot com. So I'm the
proud owner of catastrophiccontagent dot com. If

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anybody wants to know what they're planning
for twenty twenty five, go check it

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out. And so I think it's
amazing, you know that they're still doing

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these germ games because they got away
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one two months before nine to eleven, and they've done one every year and

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they're still doing it after this COVID
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and as usual suspects is usually JOHNS
Hopkins and you know people from the CIA,

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people from DARPA, BARDA, all
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there still doing the same germ game. And so you know, they know

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where and when and what is going
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they want to have the who be
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Network. Tedros gave a talk at
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they have a twenty thousand square meter
distribution hub in Dubai. That's about four

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football fields. So if you're the
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and you had you know, four
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that you had to fill up with
pandemic related products, who do you think

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is going to get those contracts?
Day? Right? You think you think

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they're going out to bid? Or
do you think your cronies who are sitting

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around the table trying to get a
piece of the pie? Why do you

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think all of the small nations want
this agreement to go through? It's because

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they want a piece of a multi
billion dollar pie. Now, I want

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to ask you a rhetorical question.
It's a trick question and I don't want

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to mess with your head. I'll
give you the right answer, in my

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opinion, right, the right answer
is none of the above. Would you

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rather have the WHO set up a
search and exploration mission with billions of dollars

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looking for pathogens with pandemic potential to
bring into the WHO coordinated laboratory network so

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they can run it through the pathage
access and benefit sharing system. So whoever

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found the pathogen get some of the
profits when they ease the regulatory restrictions and

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all these drugs and jabs get put
into play real quick, and then they

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could distribute all of the products and
have their leader be the one who could

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declare a pre fake, a fake
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Would you rather have? The United
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the next five years in the December
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do pretty much the same thing,
And in twenty twenty three they doled out

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about three hundred and forty million dollars
to thirty seven countries around the nation to

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start building, you know, the
biolabs in there were twelve career Oh imagine

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that twelve Caribbean countries were first on
the list. Maybe that's connected to catastrophic

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contagion, and you know others in
Africa, South America and so forth.

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You would you prefer to have the
who in charge of the research, development,

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distribution, and proliferation of biological weapons
or do you think that we should

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keep that as part of the United
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Yeah, it's yeah, you're right. No, the above it is very

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dangerous and you know, let me
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We talk about these treaties, and
this is one of the reasons why

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it's been so concerning to me.
You know, we go back and we

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look at the Paris Climate Court,
for example, on the climate side,

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when they put this thing together,
all these different nations get together at their

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their conference, you know, the
cop whatever the number was, and John

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Kerry comes back and says, yeah, Obama and I self ratified that.

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You know, well, that's not
what the constitution says. So all the

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people who think that, well we've
got to have something ratified here, that's

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not the way they're going to use
it. They have these agreements, they

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say, well, we've agreed to
this. Whether or not, whether or

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not they have followed any legal procedure, they will still use it. That's

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the key thing. And so regardless
of you know, once there's an agreement,

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and that's I guess the key thing
is, well, not these countries

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can come to an agreement. But
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then what the United States government will
do is say, well, that's it.

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We're part of that treaty. And
nobody in the Senate ever, no

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Republican, not Mitch McConnell, not
rampaulton. Nobody ever came back and said,

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you know, we never had a
vote on the Paris Climate A court

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that was supposedly ratified by John Carey, Biden Secretary of State. But that's

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not how this works. Nobody ever
called their bluff, and they're not going

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to call the bluff on anything that's
coming out of this World Health Organization negotiation

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either, are they. I completely
agree with you, but it's actually even

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worse than that you could amgine.
So let me let me try to explain.

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I know we got maybe ten minutes
when we first met, when you

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first had me on two years ago. What I was talking about then,

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what had happened, what I had
uncovered was after the Nations on December one,

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twenty twenty one, said that they
wanted the WHO to oversee negotiations for

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equitable access to pandemic related products.
We don't want to give you our pathogens

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anymore. That's a sovereign resource.
You guys aren't paying us for all the

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money you're making. After the Nations
said that, and they said that they

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wanted to have, you know,
manufacturing be distributed all around the world.

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The Biden administration a month and a
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two, submitted amendments to the International
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there's very strict you know, four
nations shall do this, and shall do

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that, and shall do the other
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edits from the United States and the
EU are like, well, you guys

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have to do what we want you
to do. But you know, the

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shall, right, It's a shell
game. When you see the word shall

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in the document, it means you
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so for all of the requirements on
big pharma, it's like, you shall

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consider making your contracts, you know, transparent. You shall you know,

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share intellectual property if you kind of
want to, right, you got to

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look at the qualifiers. But what
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administration was planning ahead. Got to
give them a little credit. They were

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planning ahead, saying, well,
any amendments in the future, rather than

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going into effect in twenty four months, they wanted to shorten it down to

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six And if you look at the
calendar, if the Assembly ends on June

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first, six months from June first
is still in the Biden administration. If

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it was you know, twenty four
months or whatever, that would go into

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whoever's going to be the next president. And they were trying to speed this

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process up so that they could ram
through something in the future. Well,

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the poor nations looked at that and
they said, no, not doing it,

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not going to have it, mostly
about the requirements. And then what

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happened is in violation of our Article
fifty five, which it should be called

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the anti Nancy Pelosi rule, because
they say that any amendments have to have

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four months advanced notice. So the
deadline, you know, you can't just

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real, you know, roll the
bill in one thousand pages, you know,

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Obamacare, and Nancy famously said,
oh, just vote for it,

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you can read it later. Yeah, you got forty eight hours to decide

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what you want with us. Then, so, in the middle of the

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twenty twenty two Assembly, the United
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handful of other countries illegitimately submitted new
amendments to be considered. Four days

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later, the World Health Organization published
a document that said they had adopted these

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amendments. Well, little problem.
They didn't bother to vote. They just

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said they were adopted. Now,
I know we have election integrity issues in

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the United States, they at least
pretend you have a Yeah, right,

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we're at that point now. Yeah. It says in the document that it's

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certified by their Legal Council, and
then down on the bottom it said it

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happened in their eighth plenary session.
Well, you could go watch the eighth

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session and they never even talked about
it. So eighteen months to the day

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after that, in November eighth,
twenty twenty three, we did get a

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dozen members of the European Parliament to
write a letter to Ted drus and say,

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you know, we see these amendments
and you know we got a deadline

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to reject them. But there's no
proof that you ever voted. These are

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all known and void. Rob Russ
who's the member of European Parliament, and

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Philippe Crusoe, who's a lawyer in
Switzerland, you know, talking to him

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all the time. They flew to
the United States and presented this to Senator

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Ron Johnson at his last meeting that
he had about a month or so,

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and it was a collective eh whatever, really and so you know, the

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issue here is it's a boys club, meaning the members of each nation,

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the delegates, they decide what the
rules are amongst themselves. It's not the

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who saying you have to do this. And so if all of the nations

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agree to have stricter quarantine requirements on
foreign travelers who are coming in legitimately,

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and they say, well, we'll
abuse your people and you abuse ours.

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That way, we can still be
within our constitution, but we get planet

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lockdown whenever we want it, because
people are going to be afraid to travel.

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They don't want to sit in quarantine
and get forced jem. So this

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game is far more sophisticated. Everybody
wants a simple answer. It's very similar

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to what you're talking about. Is
very similar to what they already do with

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their intelligence agencies, the Five Eyes
for example, you know, the five

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English speaking countries, the US,
UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

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They will say, well, you
know, we can't legitimately spy on

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our own people, but you can, and then you can give us that

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information. And so it's the same
thing as that they you know, they

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like you point out it's like a
club, a cartel, a mafia,

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you know, they come up with
these little workarounds that are just semantics really

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yep. And so there's a lot
of panic and fear mongering, and there's

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I heard a little bit of into
before we started this interview, and if

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if what is going on in the
world is analogous to a thousand piece jigsaw

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puzzle, and maybe the Treaty and
the amendments and who or like one or

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two pieces in that puzzle. People
are rightfully talking about central bank, digital

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currency and digital ID and geoengineering and
the Pact for the Future and the Sustainable

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Development Goals and all these many,
many, many things. But then they're

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saying all of that is in the
treaty, and it's like, well,

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you know, the treaty is a
piece of the puzzle, and it is

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connected to all of those things.
But you do yourself a disservice by quoting,

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you know, horrible things about some
other aspect of what these demons are

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doing. And when people go to
look in the treaty, you're not going

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to find anything in the treaty that
is an attack on national sovereignty. It's

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a lovely red herring. It's not
an attack on national sovereignty. It's actually

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strengthening national sovereignty so that nations can
abuse individuals. Yeah, very similar to

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what we saw again between the FEDS
and the states. It actually strengthened.

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Here's some legislation. Strengthen your authority
because at some point in the future,

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we're going to tell you there's a
pandemic and we'll give you some money if

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you do this stuff. But you're
going to be the ones who get to

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do this. You know, it's
going to be your your state and local

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public health officials that are going to
be able to do this. We'll help

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you with that. But yeah,
it's it's very interesting how they have have

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set this thing up. They will
keep these these entities that are around now

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that everybody likes so much. We
you know, we've got our flags,

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and we got our national anthems,
and we got our official state bird or

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whatever, and they'll keep these different
artifacts around so people have this sense of

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continuity. And yet the reality is
is that it's it's control from top to

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bottom, and they're all kind of
kind of on this. But we won't

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see like a global government that is
set up over here. It'll just be

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this global governance network of people who
are kind of, you know, working

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behind the scenes to make sure they're
all on the same page. I think,

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to summarize it in a sentence,
the local tyrants who abused you over

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the last four and a half years
didn't need any amendments to the international health

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regulations, and they didn't need any
stinking pandemic treaty to overstep their authority and

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trick you and coerce you and hypnotize
you and just you know, abuse you.

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So those local issues are not going
to be solved by a little one

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paragraph state resolution or state law that
says, oh, the who doesn't have

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any jurisdiction here. I want to
give a shout out to Catherine Watt.

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If you haven't met her, we
should introduce you, Catherinot, writes Baileywicknews

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dot substock dot com b A I
l I Wick News, you know,

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like a Bailey Wick, like inland, like the trees behind you. She's

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put forth a sample state legislation to
repeal all these crazy laws and actually address

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you know, why is it that
the laws have been corrupted to take away

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liability from companies that produce our products
that are harmful and all of the emergency

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rules, you know, give dictatorial
powers. So if you want to work

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on a state by state basis,
by all means, give me a phone

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call three one zero six' one
nine three zero five to five. It's

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not easy. It's not Oh,
you know, they can't touch us.

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They're not the ones who abused you
the first time. It's your local officials

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and your local laws. In the
in the amendments, they want to strengthen

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international travel restriction quarantines and make the
process of quarantining people and have a pre

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fake to add to the faith and
a post fake. But the treaty is

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just a bunch of mob bosses trying
to set up a cartel to go looking

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for pathogens with pandemic profiteering potential so
they can scare the bejeebers out of you

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again and again and again. And
because there's going to be so much money,

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they'll financially incentivize it again. You
know, that's the other part of

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it. People don't realize that,
And you're right, you've got to go

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back and remove a lot of this
legislation that was put in. A lot

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of it was put in at the
end of two thousand and one in response

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to the anthrax thing. That's the
stuff that's got to be pulled out.

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I keep telling everybody. Their motto
for the longest time has been think globally,

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act locally. So we got to
cut off those hooks that they've got

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into us at the local level.
You're exactly right. That's how it'll happen.

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That's where the rubber meets the road, and that's really where the work

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needs to be done. And we
need to root that out because they'll they'll

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do it again as long as they've
got their hooks in us, and it'll

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be financially driven with a money that
is there. That's one of the things

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the key things that they're working on
right now with the WHO is that money

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aspect. Now you've also got exit
the who dot org and there is a

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sort break. I'm going to charge
you rent. You're inside my head.

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Those are the next words out of
my mouth. Exit to who dot org

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is an activist toolbox. Okay.
I've connected to people in dozens of countries

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around the world, obviously including the
United States. If you go to exit

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the who dot com that's dedicated specifically
to the United States. Andy Biggs Representative

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Andy Biggs from Arizona well over a
year ago. Put forth HR seventy nine,

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which is the with WHO Withdrawal Act, very simple page and a half

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stop giving him money, Tell them
we're leaving and get out of here.

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When a relationship has gone so bad, you know, sometimes you just need

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to get divorced. Yes, and
so we need to exit to who.

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You know, I think we need
to go first there and abolish the WHO.

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But if you go to exit to
who dot org, exit to who

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dot com and my favorite, if
you want to take action, record a

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little video of your opinion about this, put it out on the internet.

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I've collected several hundred videos along those
lines and they can all be found on

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screwth who dot com. Have a
little fun with it. You know,

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if you don't, if you don't
speak up, you're not doing your job.

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Absolutely absolutely, exit the WHO dot
com for the USA information, exit

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the WHO dot org for world information. Screw the Who. And also you

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can find James Roguski at substack and
his last name is r. O.

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G U. S k I.
Thank you so much, James for the

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hard work that you do. You've
been on this like a bulldog for a

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long time. Thank you very much
everyone, have a great day. Thank

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you, thank you. Let me
sell you the David Knight Show. You

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can listen to with your ears.
You can even watch it by using your

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eyes. In fact, if you
can hear me, that means you're listening

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to the David Night Show right now. Yeah, good job. And you

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want to know something else. You
can find all the links to everywhere to

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watch or listen to the show at
Thedavidnightshow dot com. That's a website.

