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All right, Billy hunting in the
Great American this Monday afternoon in the tri

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State, getting ready for Red Spaceball
tonight. Having swept the Yankees three straight

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off on Thursday, they get swept
by the Tigers, a terrible baseball team,

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Friday, Saturday and Sunday, And
of course I predicted that on Friday,

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having swept the Yankees, they'll get
swept by the Tigers. Seven games

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until the All Star Break, four
against the Rockies and the Fish. The

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Marlins are in town Friday, Saturday
and Sunday. The Reds must win all

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seven. But before then Reds Baseball
starts about six oh five, six ten

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tonight, by the way, But
until then there's so much fold roll about

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what's going to happen with the ballot. I listened this morning to Morning Joe

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so that Frank LeRose would not have
to, and Joe Biden called in unimpeded

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and simply spoke for about twenty minutes, answering some questions. Did not appear

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to be the same dere lookt he
was during the debate, nor with George

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Stephanopolis. But many have said,
including my producer Tony Bender, how do

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you get I don't want to get
off the ballot in Ohio. If down

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the road the Democrats decide to get
them off the ballot, can that work?

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Joan you and I now is the
chief Elections Officer of the State of

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Ohio. Frank Lorose and Frank LeRose, welcome this Monday afternoon in the Bill

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Cunningham Show. But first of all, can you tell the American people and

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the mechanics. It's now July the
eighth, and the convention is not until

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the middle of August. I think
there's a deadline that you have put in

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through the legislature. So just tell
the American people. How would Joe Biden

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get on and get off the ballot
if a switch is made sometime in August

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or September. Well, first of
all, thank you for watching that terrible

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liberal program, so I didn't have
this morning, Billy. Bill. It's

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a state by state process, and
I think a lot of people lose track

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of this. It is a fifty
state election. Each state has their own

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rules. In Ohio, the rule
has long been that the party has to

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choose their candidate by a convention and
let us know what that candidate is going

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to be president and as presidential candidate
ninety days before the election. And I

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was the one that notified the Democrats
a few months ago that they're on track

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to miss that. They at that
time said, well, we're gonna have

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a virtual convention. We're gonna go
ahead and nominate Joe Biden early via a

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phone call or a zoom meeting or
something, which they're free to do.

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They did that in twenty twenty.
Really, whatever mechanism they come up with

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as a party to choose their their
nominee is fine with me. And you

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know, then the state legislature,
with the governor's urging, decided to step

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in and and and give them a
little bit more time, which has been

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done in the past, nothing unusual. So they now have until the really

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the first of September to get this
done. And there's no mechanism after that

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to change things. And so you
know, the pressures on for them to

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figure out who they want their their
their candidate to be. I can tell

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you this, I think the American
people saw plainly why Joe Biden is not

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fit for the job. And you
know, it's a thing that happens to

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all of us at some point.
But he's passed his prime and he's not

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ready to do this job for another
four years. And so between now,

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you have almost eight weeks between now
and September first, and at that point,

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by September first, the Democrats got
to get serious and say yay or

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nay. Joe Biden this morning was
this adamant. He was attacking the Democratic

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Party this morning, saying that I
got eighty seven percent of the vote in

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the primary. I dare you to
take me on at the convention because that's

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anti democratic. How can you run
a campaign he said, about the threat

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to democracy that Donald Trump presents,
which I don't fully understand, but nonetheless,

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how do we run a campaign that
we're a threat to democracy? When

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you tell the candidate that got eighty
seven percent of the vote, you can't

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be the candidate? And I thought, my gosh, that's the first thing

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cojent that Joe Biden said in a
long time. If you get eighty seven

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percent of the vote, he said, don't let the back room cigar stomping

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rich folks in the Democratic Party take
it away from you. Doesn't it make

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sense, though, if you get
eighty seven percent of the vote you used

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to be the nominee. Well again, it's going to be up to him

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if he chooses to withdraw. Until
then, it appears that those delegates are

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promised to him. I mean,
that's the way that works. Each state

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elects their delegates, those delegates are
generally pledged to a candidate. And really,

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when those delegates, those Democratic Convention
delegates show up at the convention,

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they don't really have much agency to
any agency to choose who they want.

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They are there specifically to cast their
votes for Joe Biden, and so until

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he decides to drop out of the
race, those delegates don't have any choice

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no matter. But here's the thing. This reminds me of a of a

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large scale version of what every family
has dealt with at some point. We

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dealt with it with my grandparents and
like, hey, listen, guys,

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you shouldn't be driving anymore. You're
a danger to yourself. And in this

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case, we're talking about the most
important and powerful position on the planet.

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And I get it. He doesn't
want to admit to himself or to others

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that he's not capable of doing this. I'm not a gerryontologist, I'm not

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a doctor, but I do have
two good ears, and well, at

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least pretty good after fourteen years as
a Green Beret. But pretty good ears

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and pretty good eyes. And what
I saw on stage of the debate in

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this interviews that he's been doing and
before and since then is a guy that's

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just not up to the most challenging
and demanding job on the planet. He

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may have good days and bad days, but you need somebody that performs consistently

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at the top of their game to
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most legal military. Well, let's
play this out a little bit. Let's

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say he gets the nomination, He's
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the balloons come down, the confetti's
blown all over the place in Chicago,

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the rioting is kept a minimum,
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more than one hundred people got shot. That's a lot more than in Florence,

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Kentucky, for example. But nonetheless, let's say that happens, and

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here we are, Like they say, okay, Frank LeRose, you're the

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chief elections officer, one of the
leaders in the nation when it comes to

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fair and balloting, and make it
easy to vote and hard to cheat.

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And here's the nominee, and you
certify okay, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris

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are the nominees for president and vice
president. And here we get to I

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don't know, pick a date,
September tenth. It is well after the

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time by which he's on the ballot, and something happens to Joe and he

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comes to He somersaults down the steps. He can no longer do backflips.

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He can't read the Bible backwards anymore. And the Democratic Party says he's not

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going to be the nominee. It's
going to be Kamala Harris. How would

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it work after September first, well
after September one, Under Ohio's law,

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in most dates, it's too late. That's the candidate on the ballot.

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Listen, there's logistics to this.
We have to print millions of ballots,

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we have to program hundreds, maybe
thousands of voting machines, we have to

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start sending out overseas mill terry ballots
forty six days before the election. And

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so there's a point in time where
it's just too late to make any changes.

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And listen, we're all tend to
be procrastinator from time to time.

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That's why deadlines exist, and that's
the deadline. If you go past that,

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his name is still on the ballot
and there's nothing you can do about

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it. Haven't there been in the
past those elected to office of one type

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or another that are dead. I've
read somewhere and over the years that somebody

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about let's say, there's an episode
from that old TV show The West Wig

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about this exact topic. Yeah,
and it can happen, and then it's

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you know, again, the laws
are different in each state, but it's

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handled like a vacancy, just like
when someone exists in the state legislature or

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in and they die or resign or
whatever else, then there's a vacancy to

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fill, and there's a variety of
processes that they go into that Listen,

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I don't think the nation, I
don't think that, you know, hundreds

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of millions of registered voters in this
country are going to vote for a person

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who has publicly announced that he doesn't
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it creates a it creates a really
difficult scenario. And this is not a

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partisan thing. I'm a proud partisan
Republican, but we need somebody who's capable

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of doing the job. And and
and this man's not for my from my

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opinion, So if something happens after
the deadline, it's Biden Harris and uh,

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Let's say Biden cannot take the oath
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votes him the president when he's incapacitated
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in about Kamala Harris, who becomes
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then she takes the oath? Could
all that happen? Could something happen where

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Joe Biden is the actual person on
the ballot, Joe Biden wins come electoral

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time middle of December, there are
pledged to Joe Biden. Let's say he's

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dead or mentally incapacitated. They vote
for Joe Biden. And then come January

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twentieth, does Kamala Harris take the
oath of office? Is she the president

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even though she was wasn't elected following
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This is the place that we as
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forty eight years, and this is
the definition of a constitutional crisis. It

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would probably result in some sort of
action by Congress. It may result in

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some sort of action by the US
Supreme Court. And let's hope. Let's

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hope to hell we can avoid that, because this is not good for the

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civic health of our nation. No, so this is why the right thing

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for him to do would be to
gracefully bow out at this point. But

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listen, if he chooses not to, we're going to as a party work

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hard to beat him. And that's
what we do. And so at this

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point, in one hundred and twenty
days, I'm just over one hundred and

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twenty I'm just under one hundred and
twenty days. It's going to be up

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to the voters to choose the right
person for the job. I know who

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I'm voting for, and that's Donald. So come November the fifth. Of

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course, voting starts around the first
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the first week in July, and
so you know, we're three months away

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from actually voting. There is a
drop dead date some I hate to use

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that term, sometime in September that
he cannot be changed. But that's up

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to the Democrats to determine. I
guess we're blessed Frank L. Rose to

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live in interesting times because I didn't
think it was possible that the Democratic president

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would would verbally assault the leadership of
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That is unbelievable. It's a remarkable
thing that's happening here and well again,

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as a Republican, I'm just kind
of sitting back to watch what the Democrats

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decide to do. As the Whigs
chief elections officer, I can tell you

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this, We're going to follow the
law in the buck I stayed, and

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it's the novel idea that I have
that we should follow the law. I

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was attacked for this just a couple
of weeks ago when I told the Democrats

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if they don't certify their candidate on
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the ballot again. They called it
a technical Cincinnati's own David Pepper, who's

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a detestable son of a dud,
said that I'm playing politics and all of

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this because it's a technicality. No, it's not a technicality. It's the

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law. And as Ohio's chief elections
officer, you don't want a secretary of

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State who is unmoored from the rule
of law. You want somebody that's going

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to follow the law as it's written. That's what you can count on me

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to do. Now, lastly,
about a minute remaining Frank Leroe's Secretary of

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State. The speculation by my producer
Tony Bender and others is that JD Vance,

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who I text with now and then
he's a good man, is likely

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to be the VP if he's elected
as the VP with Donald Trump in the

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come middle of December. The electors
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There's a vacancy, and one name
being mentioned prominently to get the vacancy

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would be you. If somehow those
circumstances happen, which do not appear to

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be unlikely. In fact, one
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the job as a sitting US Senator. Well, let's unpack this a little

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bit. First of all, I
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I supported In fact, I was
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support him in his primary a couple
of years ago. He would be a

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great running mate and a great vice
president for President Trump. Listen, as

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you know, I ran for the
US Senate a couple months ago, and

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the reason I was running is because
we have a country to say, and

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I think it would be a good
thing to have a Green Beret in the

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US Senate that brings significant combat and
special operations experience and brings significant elections administration

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experience. There are currently zero members
of the Senate who still serve in the

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armed forces. As you know,
I'm still a reservist in the Army.

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That's unusual. Throughout American history,
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Senate who still serve in uniform.
That's the case right now that there are

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zero, And so yeah, this
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that this country is worth serving and
fighting for, and I think that the

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US Senate would be a great place
I could do that. A lot of

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speculation, a big what if.
Right now, I'm enjoying being the Ohio

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Secretary of State and making sure that
it's easy to vote and hard to cheeve.

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Well, that sounds like a yes
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tell the national media that Ohio is
not going to keep Joe Biden off the

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ballot. I heard over the weekend
again that Ohio is going to try to

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keep Joe Biden off the ballot.
There's no relationship to that statement in reality,

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because the legislature, the governor has
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the Republicans till September first, and
after that it's a drop dead date because

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all these other things have to happen, printing, balance checking machines, etc.

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We'll see what happens. Based upon
this morning's interviewer in Morning, Joe,

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there's no way Joe Biden's getting out
of the race. And if that

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occurs, I'm going to lose about
fifteen hot fut Sundays. I've bet for

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a long time he's not going to
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Based upon this morning's conversation, the
NATO heads are coming to Washington Tuesday,

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Wednesday, and Thursday. He'll be
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then the next weekend after that's the
Republican Convention in Milwaukee, and away

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we go for Frank LeRose. Thanks
for clearing things up, and thanks for

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coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Frank, you're a great American.

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Next time instead of hot fudge Sundays, making a Lorosis pizza, go right,

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a great week. Thank you,
Frank, ought to have the number

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three four seven, Frank Lorosa.
Thank you very much, and we continue.

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Thank you, Frank, all right, let's continue with more coming up

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later. Your comments at five,
one, three, seven, four,

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nine, seven thousand, and it's
amazing. I'm gonna lose a bunch of

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bets of he's the nominee because he
is digging his heels in against the Democratic

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Party. So we'll see where that
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seven hundred WLW. When it came
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in bed like a beached whale,
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jump out of bed, jump out
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I can listen to Mike McConnell.
Mike McConnell. Mike McConnell's starting your day

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getting the latest word and a healthy
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tune in and get the goodness you
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lover with Mike McConnell. Tomorrow Morning
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