All right, Billy hunting in the Great American this Monday afternoon in the tri
State, getting ready for Red Spaceball tonight. Having swept the Yankees three straight
off on Thursday, they get swept by the Tigers, a terrible baseball team,
Friday, Saturday and Sunday, And of course I predicted that on Friday,
having swept the Yankees, they'll get swept by the Tigers. Seven games
until the All Star Break, four against the Rockies and the Fish. The
Marlins are in town Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The Reds must win all
seven. But before then Reds Baseball starts about six oh five, six ten
tonight, by the way, But until then there's so much fold roll about
what's going to happen with the ballot. I listened this morning to Morning Joe
so that Frank LeRose would not have to, and Joe Biden called in unimpeded
and simply spoke for about twenty minutes, answering some questions. Did not appear
to be the same dere lookt he was during the debate, nor with George
Stephanopolis. But many have said, including my producer Tony Bender, how do
you get I don't want to get off the ballot in Ohio. If down
the road the Democrats decide to get them off the ballot, can that work?
Joan you and I now is the chief Elections Officer of the State of
Ohio. Frank Lorose and Frank LeRose, welcome this Monday afternoon in the Bill
Cunningham Show. But first of all, can you tell the American people and
the mechanics. It's now July the eighth, and the convention is not until
the middle of August. I think there's a deadline that you have put in
through the legislature. So just tell the American people. How would Joe Biden
get on and get off the ballot if a switch is made sometime in August
or September. Well, first of all, thank you for watching that terrible
liberal program, so I didn't have this morning, Billy. Bill. It's
a state by state process, and I think a lot of people lose track
of this. It is a fifty state election. Each state has their own
rules. In Ohio, the rule has long been that the party has to
choose their candidate by a convention and let us know what that candidate is going
to be president and as presidential candidate ninety days before the election. And I
was the one that notified the Democrats a few months ago that they're on track
to miss that. They at that time said, well, we're gonna have
a virtual convention. We're gonna go ahead and nominate Joe Biden early via a
phone call or a zoom meeting or something, which they're free to do.
They did that in twenty twenty. Really, whatever mechanism they come up with
as a party to choose their their nominee is fine with me. And you
know, then the state legislature, with the governor's urging, decided to step
in and and and give them a little bit more time, which has been
done in the past, nothing unusual. So they now have until the really
the first of September to get this done. And there's no mechanism after that
to change things. And so you know, the pressures on for them to
figure out who they want their their their candidate to be. I can tell
you this, I think the American people saw plainly why Joe Biden is not
fit for the job. And you know, it's a thing that happens to
all of us at some point. But he's passed his prime and he's not
ready to do this job for another four years. And so between now,
you have almost eight weeks between now and September first, and at that point,
by September first, the Democrats got to get serious and say yay or
nay. Joe Biden this morning was this adamant. He was attacking the Democratic
Party this morning, saying that I got eighty seven percent of the vote in
the primary. I dare you to take me on at the convention because that's
anti democratic. How can you run a campaign he said, about the threat
to democracy that Donald Trump presents, which I don't fully understand, but nonetheless,
how do we run a campaign that we're a threat to democracy? When
you tell the candidate that got eighty seven percent of the vote, you can't
be the candidate? And I thought, my gosh, that's the first thing
cojent that Joe Biden said in a long time. If you get eighty seven
percent of the vote, he said, don't let the back room cigar stomping
rich folks in the Democratic Party take it away from you. Doesn't it make
sense, though, if you get eighty seven percent of the vote you used
to be the nominee. Well again, it's going to be up to him
if he chooses to withdraw. Until then, it appears that those delegates are
promised to him. I mean, that's the way that works. Each state
elects their delegates, those delegates are generally pledged to a candidate. And really,
when those delegates, those Democratic Convention delegates show up at the convention,
they don't really have much agency to any agency to choose who they want.
They are there specifically to cast their votes for Joe Biden, and so until
he decides to drop out of the race, those delegates don't have any choice
no matter. But here's the thing. This reminds me of a of a
large scale version of what every family has dealt with at some point. We
dealt with it with my grandparents and like, hey, listen, guys,
you shouldn't be driving anymore. You're a danger to yourself. And in this
case, we're talking about the most important and powerful position on the planet.
And I get it. He doesn't want to admit to himself or to others
that he's not capable of doing this. I'm not a gerryontologist, I'm not
a doctor, but I do have two good ears, and well, at
least pretty good after fourteen years as a Green Beret. But pretty good ears
and pretty good eyes. And what I saw on stage of the debate in
this interviews that he's been doing and before and since then is a guy that's
just not up to the most challenging and demanding job on the planet. He
may have good days and bad days, but you need somebody that performs consistently
at the top of their game to be the commander in chief of the world's
most legal military. Well, let's play this out a little bit. Let's
say he gets the nomination, He's got eighty seven percent of the delegate vote,
the balloons come down, the confetti's blown all over the place in Chicago,
the rioting is kept a minimum, even though over the weekend in Chicago
more than one hundred people got shot. That's a lot more than in Florence,
Kentucky, for example. But nonetheless, let's say that happens, and
here we are, Like they say, okay, Frank LeRose, you're the
chief elections officer, one of the leaders in the nation when it comes to
fair and balloting, and make it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
And here's the nominee, and you certify okay, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
are the nominees for president and vice president. And here we get to I
don't know, pick a date, September tenth. It is well after the
time by which he's on the ballot, and something happens to Joe and he
comes to He somersaults down the steps. He can no longer do backflips.
He can't read the Bible backwards anymore. And the Democratic Party says he's not
going to be the nominee. It's going to be Kamala Harris. How would
it work after September first, well after September one, Under Ohio's law,
in most dates, it's too late. That's the candidate on the ballot.
Listen, there's logistics to this. We have to print millions of ballots,
we have to program hundreds, maybe thousands of voting machines, we have to
start sending out overseas mill terry ballots forty six days before the election. And
so there's a point in time where it's just too late to make any changes.
And listen, we're all tend to be procrastinator from time to time.
That's why deadlines exist, and that's the deadline. If you go past that,
his name is still on the ballot and there's nothing you can do about
it. Haven't there been in the past those elected to office of one type
or another that are dead. I've read somewhere and over the years that somebody
about let's say, there's an episode from that old TV show The West Wig
about this exact topic. Yeah, and it can happen, and then it's
you know, again, the laws are different in each state, but it's
handled like a vacancy, just like when someone exists in the state legislature or
in and they die or resign or whatever else, then there's a vacancy to
fill, and there's a variety of processes that they go into that Listen,
I don't think the nation, I don't think that, you know, hundreds
of millions of registered voters in this country are going to vote for a person
who has publicly announced that he doesn't intend to take the job. And so
it creates a it creates a really difficult scenario. And this is not a
partisan thing. I'm a proud partisan Republican, but we need somebody who's capable
of doing the job. And and and this man's not for my from my
opinion, So if something happens after the deadline, it's Biden Harris and uh,
Let's say Biden cannot take the oath of office and the electoral College actually
votes him the president when he's incapacitated or dead, and then other laws kick
in about Kamala Harris, who becomes the who becomes the acting president, and
then she takes the oath? Could all that happen? Could something happen where
Joe Biden is the actual person on the ballot, Joe Biden wins come electoral
time middle of December, there are pledged to Joe Biden. Let's say he's
dead or mentally incapacitated. They vote for Joe Biden. And then come January
twentieth, does Kamala Harris take the oath of office? Is she the president
even though she was wasn't elected following new you're prole a new ground here.
This is the place that we as a nation in our young two hundred and
forty eight years, and this is the definition of a constitutional crisis. It
would probably result in some sort of action by Congress. It may result in
some sort of action by the US Supreme Court. And let's hope. Let's
hope to hell we can avoid that, because this is not good for the
civic health of our nation. No, so this is why the right thing
for him to do would be to gracefully bow out at this point. But
listen, if he chooses not to, we're going to as a party work
hard to beat him. And that's what we do. And so at this
point, in one hundred and twenty days, I'm just over one hundred and
twenty I'm just under one hundred and twenty days. It's going to be up
to the voters to choose the right person for the job. I know who
I'm voting for, and that's Donald. So come November the fifth. Of
course, voting starts around the first week in October, and here it is
the first week in July, and so you know, we're three months away
from actually voting. There is a drop dead date some I hate to use
that term, sometime in September that he cannot be changed. But that's up
to the Democrats to determine. I guess we're blessed Frank L. Rose to
live in interesting times because I didn't think it was possible that the Democratic president
would would verbally assault the leadership of his own party that wants him out.
That is unbelievable. It's a remarkable thing that's happening here and well again,
as a Republican, I'm just kind of sitting back to watch what the Democrats
decide to do. As the Whigs chief elections officer, I can tell you
this, We're going to follow the law in the buck I stayed, and
it's the novel idea that I have that we should follow the law. I
was attacked for this just a couple of weeks ago when I told the Democrats
if they don't certify their candidate on time, he's not going to be on
the ballot again. They called it a technical Cincinnati's own David Pepper, who's
a detestable son of a dud, said that I'm playing politics and all of
this because it's a technicality. No, it's not a technicality. It's the
law. And as Ohio's chief elections officer, you don't want a secretary of
State who is unmoored from the rule of law. You want somebody that's going
to follow the law as it's written. That's what you can count on me
to do. Now, lastly, about a minute remaining Frank Leroe's Secretary of
State. The speculation by my producer Tony Bender and others is that JD Vance,
who I text with now and then he's a good man, is likely
to be the VP if he's elected as the VP with Donald Trump in the
come middle of December. The electors get together and then they get sworn in.
There's a vacancy, and one name being mentioned prominently to get the vacancy
would be you. If somehow those circumstances happen, which do not appear to
be unlikely. In fact, one might say they're likely, would you accept
the job as a sitting US Senator. Well, let's unpack this a little
bit. First of all, I think Jade Vance would be an excellent choice.
I supported In fact, I was the first state wide office holder to
support him in his primary a couple of years ago. He would be a
great running mate and a great vice president for President Trump. Listen, as
you know, I ran for the US Senate a couple months ago, and
the reason I was running is because we have a country to say, and
I think it would be a good thing to have a Green Beret in the
US Senate that brings significant combat and special operations experience and brings significant elections administration
experience. There are currently zero members of the Senate who still serve in the
armed forces. As you know, I'm still a reservist in the Army.
That's unusual. Throughout American history, We've normally had a few members of the
Senate who still serve in uniform. That's the case right now that there are
zero, And so yeah, this is something I'd absolutely consider. I think
that this country is worth serving and fighting for, and I think that the
US Senate would be a great place I could do that. A lot of
speculation, a big what if. Right now, I'm enjoying being the Ohio
Secretary of State and making sure that it's easy to vote and hard to cheeve.
Well, that sounds like a yes to me. But someone's got to
tell the national media that Ohio is not going to keep Joe Biden off the
ballot. I heard over the weekend again that Ohio is going to try to
keep Joe Biden off the ballot. There's no relationship to that statement in reality,
because the legislature, the governor has signed a law giving the Democrats and
the Republicans till September first, and after that it's a drop dead date because
all these other things have to happen, printing, balance checking machines, etc.
We'll see what happens. Based upon this morning's interviewer in Morning, Joe,
there's no way Joe Biden's getting out of the race. And if that
occurs, I'm going to lose about fifteen hot fut Sundays. I've bet for
a long time he's not going to be the nominee of the Democrat Party.
Based upon this morning's conversation, the NATO heads are coming to Washington Tuesday,
Wednesday, and Thursday. He'll be in no situations in a campaign next weekend,
then the next weekend after that's the Republican Convention in Milwaukee, and away
we go for Frank LeRose. Thanks for clearing things up, and thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Frank, you're a great American.
Next time instead of hot fudge Sundays, making a Lorosis pizza, go right,
a great week. Thank you, Frank, ought to have the number
three four seven, Frank Lorosa. Thank you very much, and we continue.
Thank you, Frank, all right, let's continue with more coming up
later. Your comments at five, one, three, seven, four,
nine, seven thousand, and it's amazing. I'm gonna lose a bunch of
bets of he's the nominee because he is digging his heels in against the Democratic
Party. So we'll see where that goes. Bill Cunningham, News Radio,
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