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The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios
Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from

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around the world. It's time for
another edition of the Flat Earth Files.

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I hope this podcast finds you well, and we have a guest standing by.

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Charles will be joining us in just
a moment before we get started,

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Again, it is the flat Earthfiles
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bring on our guest today, joining
us from I believe Colorado is Charles.

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Charles. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. How are you,

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George? Good? Good? You're
in Colorado right, yes, Caloro

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Springs, there you go, my
old stomping grounds. Well, please do

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take a minute and introduce yourself to
the audience. I'm Charles from Colorado Springs.

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I was in the Coast Guard and
that's really how my journey to flat

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Earth started. But how it all
came down to it before that was growing

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up. Let's see, grew up
and with my mom and my stepdad,

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and I met my biological father later, and when he came around, he

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wasn't exactly nice or very good at
being a parent at all. Sure,

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and so I ended up moving at
fifteen to live in Colorado and I've been

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here ever since, essentially after my
stepdad died. So coming to that point,

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it was just sad. And I've
never believed in God, so I

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do now because of your podcast.
Actually, But so you kind of like

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myself at a younger age, living
a worldly life and uh, you know,

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like a like a like a seventies
Billie Joeld song hitting the booze,

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and uh, you know, Jason
after the women, and obviously you had

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obviously maybe maybe not the easiest time
growing up. Now, I know you're

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in Colorado, Rogers Springs. Now
where did you grow up? Washington State?

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Washington State? Okay, gotcha,
gotcha? Gotcha? And then you're

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you're a young guy. You're late
twenties, right, yep, twenty eight

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And like most of us, I'm
assuming you probably went to a public school

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and got the same and doctrinated education
as we all did, right for sure,

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one hundred percent. And then I
know your stepfather had a if I

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remember correctly, he had a tough
time dealing with things and passed away.

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And then you moved to Colorado Springs. You've been there ever since. And

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then I don't want to jump too
far ahead, but obviously I think your

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wife played a huge part in your
change in life, right, yes,

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And that's how to get all the
thoughts to go for that is exactly where

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I was going. Actually, so
I moved here. I actually knew her

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when I was in high school,
and we didn't get together and get married

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until later in life, about twenty
eighteen. So my wife, Megan changed

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everything and fixed a lot of stuff
and helped me see life without the rose

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colored glasses that my dad and society. He was just the catalyst for all

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the same basics that you get from
public school and the media and that kind

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of thing. But she helped me
realize that life doesn't suck and that it's

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okay to do things, I mean, essentially for yourself and to be happy.

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And so we've been together and married
for five years, and then up

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until COVID, I didn't really get
into conspiracies all that much besides like health

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centric stuff like working out how to
optimize how your life is physically. And

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so I went down rabbit hole with
that, such as the medical stuff on

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like fat and ansel keys and how
he basically made up his seven country study

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and it was like twenty countries or
something like that and essentially falsified as data

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to make it seem like saturated fat
was the worst thing ever. And I'm

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just laughing because I think that was
actually on the cover of a Time magazine

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back in the day, back in
Yeah, and people have eaten it up

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because he's trusted and he's a doctor
and a researcher. So that was my

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focus and then COVID just I listened
to every single episode of the Flat Earth

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that you have. So I've heard
plenty of other people have the same experience

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with COVID, and it just happened
that I was going through the process of

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going to basic training for the Coast
Guard and I went right after it ramped

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up really high and it took a
little bit back so they didn't have to

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basically not have Basic. So I
came in right after that, immediately after

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Basic went to tech school, and
yeah, I was very not happy with

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the situation, like I wanted to
do it. And then immediately I was

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like, this was a dumb idea
because in a school which I had in

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pedaled into California, they didn't technically
I mean no, they did say all

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you can do is go to class
and eat. You have to wear a

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mask twenty four to seven. You
can't leave your room, and that is

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all you can do. And then
they tried to walk it back like I

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wasn't that bad. And then yeah, after I got to my duty station,

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I was supposed to do a job
and I never did my job because

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I refused to get the vaccine.
And yeah, it what was it?

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So you were basically in prison for
six months, right, you got your

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hour of sunlight and you got to
eat, and then it was back to

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the clank. Yeah, and they're
like you can't interact with people in the

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room connected Like you go in the
hall and you turn left and there's a

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door there, and you can't talk
to those people. It's not allowed.

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And yeah, it was ridiculous.
It wasn't a fun time. It was

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very trying, honestly, and my
wife and I moved to Newport, Rhode

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Island after nine ten months of me
being in once everything was done, and

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it was as much as the people
were grumpy, the place was lovely.

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As we went and found like a
I guess a farm, Not really,

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This nice lady had horses. She
I learned to ride a horse for the

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first time, basically for free,
because we helped her like mock stalls and

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do all these things around her place. She had cows and turkeys and chickens,

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and randomly we'd get like steaks or
turkey or a whole chicken. Sure,

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it's a fun time and I really
enjoyed that, and I wish we

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could do that here, but it's
more city and we live with her parents,

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which is saving grace because I now
being out of the military, am

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a fire sprinkler apprentice, so basically
plumbing side for the fire sprinkler safety stuff.

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Oh okay, gotcha, yeah sure
yeah, And so that being an

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apprentice at twenty nine, you don't
really make that much. So thankfully they

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are loving and kind enough to keep
us around with a ten month old baby

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now for the past year, so
that's been saving it a lot's Oh so

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the big one for COVID and getting
me to realize the just the depth of

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COVID, specifically in the evilness of
the vaccine. I haven't heard anyone mention

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it on your show, but I
watched Candice Owens did a shot in the

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dark on Rumble only for some reason, but she went over vitamin K shot

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every single almost every single vaccine on
the schedule for kids, and just like

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for example, I think it was
the t DApp had a side effect of

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SIDS and it essentially in the consumer
notes of the whole pamphlet you're supposed to

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get with every shot was a side
effect for an intended effect of the shots.

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So that fully ruined everything I believed
in medicine and medical stuff. So

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I'm well, like what I always
say on the podcast, a healthy a

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healthy person is not a customer for
the medical industrial complex exactly, and just

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like it. I think one of
the other things was I learned pharmachia,

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like those little tidbits. The Greek
is typically attributed to what do they say

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in the I think it's Revelation nineteen. I can't remember the verse, but

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it says, ooh, pharmacia as
something else other than what it's main definition

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of sorcery and magic and poison.
So that was one where I was like

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just getting into real deep stuff like
now flat Earth and uh. I actually

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came to flat Earth two months ago, and I've just gone off the deep

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end with listening to your show,
both shows from a mental and then I

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listened to all the Scipio's stuff and
I've started reading his things. Says that

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guy just is a researcher beyond and
a great writer. I'm a I'm a

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proud donor, a monthly donor to
his work. He is an outstating writer.

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It's it's glorious yep. So I
don't know where to go from there.

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I think, you know, you
brought up a couple of good points.

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My dogs are going crazy. Mailman's
here. But the CDC I mean

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is schedule is something that I have
included I think in three of the of

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the last four podcasts and the show
notes because it has come up and it

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is such an important thing because it's
in black and white, if people would

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just take the time to read and
listen. I'm guilty as charge too when

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I was younger. But that's why
I'm trying so hard to get the word

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out for younger folks today to understand
that everything it's a war. You're being

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sprayed from the sky. They're poisoning
your food, they're injecting it into your

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body, and then of course through
the Rockefeller education system, they're poisoning your

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mind that way as well. It
is warfare and the sicky where the more

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financially they burden you, which which
makes you even more. You know,

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they want everybody to be part of
the system, and they can do that

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financially and medical of course, my
gosh, I remember, you know,

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people having the conversation. That's one
of the great things, you know,

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with the military, you know,
the berths were covered. But like you

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know, how much can you imagine
how much a cost? Well, you

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just had a baby. How much
does it cost to have a baby these

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days? What ten dollars? Twenty
thousand dollars? Thankfully we actually had a

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home birth. We had a scare
and we went to the hospital at first

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and we were there for two hours
didn't get any medication, only tests and

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everything. Everything was good, and
we opted to leave good outside of their

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better judgment and whatever. But I
think that cost without insurance five thousand dollars

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and luckily for two hours, yeah, and nothing. We just sat.

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We didn't get transferred to a different
room like they said, like it was

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ridiculous, and I think, yeah, that was free. That was essentially

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free. I think we paid forty
dollars, but that was only because after

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one hundred and eighty days, if
you said it up right and you have

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an honorable discharge, you still get
medical benefits. So we had medical benefits

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for the last bit of her pregnancy
because she was I got out and she

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was three or four months pregnant.
Good for you. And again with the

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birthing centers which are getting more and
more popular again, my son and daughter

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in law have used it for all
three of their children. You don't have

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that you know, the baby's born, uh, you know, clean it

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off biblical cord. And then you
know the very next thing is that they're

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they're drawn out the vaccines and that
if you say no, it's it's like

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being at the car dealership and you're
trying to walk out. Uh, let

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me get my manager, right.
They really want to get that vaccine in

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your child. Yeah, and they
want like I think we had. Yeah,

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we did have like delayed cord lamping
and everything, and we actually did

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start at the birthing center. Unfortunately, the one here that we went to

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uh huh was like a hospital light. It was a light ursion because they

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still required all these tests and they
didn't let you do like a natural way

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to do. What is it the
twenty week glucose test for gestational diabetes.

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So that was another one. And
it's of course like some something like pediolite

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or whatever, sugary concoction and it
has like propylane glycol fire retardant in it.

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You know, like why would I
want to have more of this poison

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when we don't have to do any
of that at all and she's totally fine?

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would you The old saying goes,

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why would you fix something that's not
broke? And it goes the same with

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your immune system. You know,
it's a brand new immune system, healthy

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baby. Why would you inject anything
in it? Right? And that was

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another thing since listening to your podcast
with the terrain theory and I've tried to.

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I haven't. I've listened to everyone
else that I've mentioned, and I

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haven't gone on my own yet to
like sift through it because too much effort

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and I'd rather just listen or read
what other people have already said right now,

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because it's been yeah, fully like
even well, I'll go back.

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I only started believing blat earth two
months ago, and then I didn't really

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believe that God was real until I
don't know, two weeks ago, maybe

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three, and it's it's certainly different
and certainly a lot better. All tangent

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onto that my wife and I have
been well, I have been grumpy and

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angry because I never really fixed the
things that I learned, and then I

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just perpetuated the same kind of tendencies
my dad had, and we had been

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essentially having the same conversations over and
over again. And then finally I guess

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I accepted. I was like,
yeah, I screwed up, and I'd

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like to not do this anymore.
And I was praying for a week or

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so, and then drop of the
hat, all these self hating, angry

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thoughts just kind of dropped away,
and I was able to be calm,

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relaxed, happy, able to enjoy
time with my family again. It was

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quite nice and a change of pace
because brand new. That's so awesome to

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hear, and it's okay to forgive
yourself that I kind of went through those

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same things. You keep yourself awake
at night thinking of the things you did

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when you were younger. And the
fact of the matter is, you know,

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you realize that you can't change things
that are already done. However,

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you can make a difference in other
people's lives. And that kind of motivated

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me to kind of to what I'm
doing now. And again, I'm not

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perfect, and anything I say behind
the microphone, you know, I researched,

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but that doesn't mean I'm always right. And if I missed the target

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on something, I'm quick to say, you know, maybe I was wrong

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on that one. And but you
know, as I get older, I

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realized that much of everything that is
put in front of us, whether it

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be on the news or social media
or coming out of a top tier athlete's

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mouth telling me that get the double
jeb and Taylor Swift is cool. You

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know that kind of thing, It's
probably not a good thing. Yeah,

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And that's what's because conspiracies before really
coming to God was burden on my emotional

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state, so I'd always be grumpy
and unhappy because it's all doom and gloom

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and it's still a habit that can
be slipped into, but it doesn't have

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the same weight, almost like like
the agents of Satan doing all these things

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and those spirits like influencing you,
because it after listening to all those things

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and reading it. And I listened
to the Bible too, so I get

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more of it on a and I
listen to everything double speed, so I

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get more of it because I don't
read that fast. That would be ridiculous.

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But it's made it to where I
can hear about all the especially the

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Freemason stuff that and the numbers and
Jamtria and all that, and it's not

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nearly as doom and gloom because well, in the end, you are know

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what's going to happen, right if
you believe and you read the Bible,

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So it's not it's not all bad. It's just you know what things you

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don't have to believe and see through
the Oh hey, here's this cool thing

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going on. You should totally get
the new Oh what was it? Elon

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musk He just put in a live
human his neuralink. I just saw that

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the other day and it's like,
hello, that's he's a good guy.

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Are you sure? Are you sure? Because he sounds like evil? Still

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people are still banned on x Twitter
and it's yeah, it's ridiculous. Oh

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that was one thing. I was
so into Trump and the Q and the

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like continuity of government and that whole
idea that man will save us. Oh

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no, Like I'm not good at
the quoting of it at all yet,

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but like it don't trust. Don't
put your trust in man. Essentially,

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that's right Psalms one eighteen eight.
Don't put your trust in man, put

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it in God. And the whole
Q thing. I've mentioned it before.

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That goes back to Operation Trust.
They always reused the same plan over and

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over again. That ran was that
during the Bolshevik time frame after World War

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operation, which our CIA and FBI
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what was a counterintelligence operation. There's
a very good chance, in my opinion,

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that what's going on down at the
border with this UH convoy and everything

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else, that very much may be
a Q slash operation trust, but more

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so would these operation trusting. It
was to get you, not to do

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anything right. It was hold the
line, patriot. The good guys were

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in charge, and at the end
of the day, people sat on their

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hand for years and nothing got done. Yeah, and with that, like

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what's his name, Abbott? I
remember during COVID people were pissed him because

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I can't remember exactly what it was, but he was doing dumb things with

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like lockdowns and everything, and like
Texas and Florida were supposed to be the

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bastions of freedom and yet Florida and
DeSantis were just as bad as everywhere else.

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I think they have some of the
highest number of sixty plus vaccination and

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he's never like rolled that back,
like oh I was wrong. No,

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he's just gotten most of elderly population
in Florida to get multiple jabs, and

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Florida has a ton of it because
everyone wants to old time vacation there.

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Yeah, that's sound a big retirement
community. My mom's down there right now.

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As a matter of fact, she'll
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by the way, good point DeSantis. Last April of twenty twenty three,

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he went to Israel and signed a
bill to quote combat hate crimes.

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And again, if you say there's
a such thing as hate speech, well

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who gets to be the adjudicator of
such speech? So once again that is

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completely anti First Amendment, right,
And like I've heard you say on there,

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it only works as a constitution if
both parties agree to have pulled it.

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And yet time and time again it's
trampled on. You have the illusion

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that you have right. I mean, there was a nineteen five maybe can't

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remember it might have been eighteen hundred
and ninety Supreme Court ruling that you can't

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tax income and it was upheld that
whatever the income tax amendment number is was

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contrary to constitution. And yet we
get income tax every single year. You

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have to pay. If you don't
pay, we'll audit you and then take

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your money. And it's everything is
like that. Yeah, that was nineteen

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thirteen, Which wasn't that the same
year they instituted the Federal Reserve, right,

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December twenty fourth, nineteen thirteen.
Yeah, they actually had before that,

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even before the charter for the third
private Bank came around, they had

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already tried that and said no,
you can't do that. In a I

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can't remember it was like ten twenty
years right before then for some sort of

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taxation. I might be missing the
mark partially, but it's yeah. Or

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the Titanic and two or three people
that were supposed to vote against the charter

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died magically, and what was it
Ford or JP Morgan was supposed to be

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on there and magically wasn't Yep,
Yep, there was three guys on there

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that were against it, and the
other guys who were supposed to be on

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they just let's put another coin in
the conspiracy jar because obviously that was just

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a coincidence. Yeah, that is
a big thing. Coincidences now just don't

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seem to be a thing. Like
almost every single time if you look hard

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enough, every single time there is
some numerology or someone is connected to someone

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that is a Mason or a Jesuit
or some sort of government agent. And

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it's clear now, but it it
makes sense if you're not willing to see

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or to try and go deeper past
who's playing on Sunday Night or what shows

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are playing on Disney that kind of
thing. Yeah, but you know,

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when somebody made a point to me, like I'm in Delaware, I'm an

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Eastern time zone guy, I've lived
all over the world, and being back

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in this time zone, I kind
of forget that while you know here the

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NFL it's an after church, right, it starts at one, but for

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like you you're in Colorado, that
means it starts at eleven. In California

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it starts at ten. Hawaii,
it's like seven or eight in the morning.

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So you know, from September to
you know, January, there are

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a lot of people skipping church because
football is more important to them. Yeah,

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And I read a Scipio's article on
that, and and before I even

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got here, I heard how all
like most of those games are probably rigged

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and they have scripts and everything.
And then I read this article and baseball

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specifically, I think it was a
freemason that subverted the monarchy of Hawaii and

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made baseball. And then some of
the other sports, basketball and football,

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are along the same lines. They're
just rituals, especially baseball, like nine

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innings, three bases, three outs. It's eighty one games a year.

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Yeah, anyone who yep, right, And it's a diamond. Yeah,

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even the way it's set up,
it's it's very interesting. I've seen those

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things before. I need to really
break them down to a short podcast on

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the other one about that, because
it is interesting and indeed, most sports

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are rigged. It's been proven that
the many because you know, in the

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NFL, going back ten or fifteen
years ago, they instituted a special ball

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for kicking. Yeah, and there's
a lot of people who say that they're

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able to. As a matter of
fact, I saw the replay of a

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kick somebody, maybe it was a
week or two ago, and the guy

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kicked it and it just went I
mean it just went right, like you

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know how you put backits against each
other and it just pushes away. It

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looks like something like that happened.
I've seen yeah, balls that or kick

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do funky things. Yeah, I
can't even after reading that in remembering just

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watching games and like how it looks
like it's going straight in and then all

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of a sudden it just curves like
that's not wind or any sort of atmospheric

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interference. That's when you don't know. You're just like, oh, that's

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weird, and then all of a
sudden, Yeah that makes sense. There's

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tech and everything. You don't Yeah, so I don't. I haven't watched

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sports in a while, but even
more somehow I don't care to even hear

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about it, and I'd rather do
Like a lot of people want to talk

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about how the presidents are all from
one bloodline, or do you want to

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go on about how their whole world
is corrupt. I mean, yeah,

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it's funny people think. You know, there's still people who believe that if

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you study hard enough and go to
school and you know, you can be

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president. Yet we have people from
the same families that are president, right,

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the same people from two elections ago
or from the last election. It's

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going to be Trump and Biden again. Some people think it'll be someone else.

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I think they really enjoy having a
puppet which they can just print out

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and tell them what to read,
and then they have somebody on his Twitter

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account. It's just it's brutal and
shame on the people because he's obviously got

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to mention terribly, and shame on
the people who do that too. I

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always say, there's a special place
and you know where for people like that.

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Just pure evil, And you know, we point these things out over

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and over and over again. I
just wrote an email to somebody. We

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were talking back and forth about what's
going on in Iraq right this March in

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six weeks, I think it'll be
twenty one years since we first crossed the

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berm into you know, Iraq two
point zero. But you know, we

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had Desert Storm in the early nineties
and then the Iraq War in March two

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I think it was March twenty two
thousand and three we invaded Iraq. That

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was twenty one years ago. Now
friends I served with twenty one years ago,

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their children are in Iraq right now. You know where we're bomb in

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Iraq and Syria. Last night,
it's just why and people will still say,

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you know, go get them.
They killed them, and it is

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horrible, and it's awful that we
lost three service members last weekend. It's

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terrible, but dropping more bombs isn't
fixing anything. Get our guys, listen.

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We have I think eight hundred and
seventy five basses in eighty two countries,

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and it's always the other guys.
And like, I'm not this bleeding

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heart liberal. I'm very staunch on
gun rights and freedoms and everything else.

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But it's just, you know,
there's a funny meme. It's got military

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bases all surrounding Iran and it says, how dare I ran move themselves so

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close to our bases. It's just
it's outrageous. And you know, while

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I sit here and laugh, you
know, when you're on the ground and

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you've been through war and you see
that the true results of bombs, the

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generations that destroys, and we as
Americans. You know the old Toby Keith

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songs back from two thousand and three
about you know how nine to eleven we

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got I forget the name of the
song, but it was all about going

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out there and kicking butt and doing
this and doing that. We were wrong.

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There was no weapons of mass destruction. This Tuesday, on the Fact

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Hunner, we're going to break down
everything from the uranium hoax to twenty one

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years later while we're still there and
the iraqis the funny part is and I'm

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so I'm sorry for getting off base
here, but you know, the Iraqis

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are screaming for us to leave their
country and they literally just sent another battalion

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or maybe even a brigade of troops
into Iraq this week. It's just what

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are we doing? Yeah? And
didn't we finance between us and the Russians

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back in the eighties with that whole
scandal. I can't remember the name of

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it. In the Middle East as
well, and it was either Iraq or

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Iran was part of it, so
it was the Iran Iraq War. It

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went from nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty
eight, and we financed and provided them

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weapons. The war ended and he
was our useful idiot. Many people say

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he was actually part of the CIA, or at least affiliated with the CIA,

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and that'll be part of what we
talk about. And like any other

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of the guys we do or we
have in there when we're done with them,

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like Gaddafi, Osama bin Laden,
he worked for the CIA. His

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name was Tim Osmond. You know. He was just another boogeyman and we

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went down trails in Iraq during operations
Swarmer. They create boogeymen to justify us

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being there. Yeah, it's just
amazing, it is, and it's always

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funny to hear. Oh they like
I have heard recently that Tucker Carlson's dad

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was in the CIA and he didn't
get in. He he failed out.

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Whenever they mentioned that, invariably they
end up becoming known to be in the

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CIA or a subsidiary or what ever. Because they have just fake companies that

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they own and use for confidential informants
and all that kind of jazz, and

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it's the same thing every time.
And seeing that it's the breadth of it

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is horrifically amazing and sometimes just hard
to fathom just how vast and wide the

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control is and just seeing that it's
everywhere, and it's been that way for

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decades, if not the entire time. You just didn't know it back then,

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you know. Yeah, I'm so
glad you pointed that out, because

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just like Elon Musk, I see
so many people, including my friends,

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that hold Tucker Carlson up. He's
just another gatekeeper. His father, Dick

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Carlson, he was the CIA slash
Voice of America guy, which was just

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another tool of propaganda. And oh, by the way, he was also

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a big banker out in California.
You know, all these people are always

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put in place for a reason,
just like the guy on CNN. He's

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part of the Vanderbilt family. Yep. Yeah, Anderson Cooper, yeah,

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thank you, yeah, yeah,
absolutely, And it's always these families like

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to go back to Trump. His
family, I can't remember the names and

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everything because I read it the other
day, but he was his family's from

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Germany, and he doesn't admit to
it. And like the whole thing of

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his he also has a bloodline that
he's connected to, and it's always these

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same families that rebrand into different names. And it actually goes all the way

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back to tribes of pain In and
pain and like ham Rights and all those

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And it's quite impressive that you can
actually see the demonic influence and all the

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things they do when you look hard
enough, you know indeed, and it's

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everywhere. And it's not just in
politics, it's just not in the media,

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but it's also in the people that
they choose to infiltrate and control the

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mind of our youth. Who's the
most popular singer in the world today,

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Taylor Swift. She'll be in the
super Bowl next week. We know that

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sports are fixed. And her boyfriend
they made sure he was going to get

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in the super Bowl. So a
lot of people don't know her. I

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think it's her great or great great
grandfather. Charles Baldy is like in one

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of the most recognized knighthoods in the
world. He was both Ordered of the

408
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Crown of Italy, but he was
also knighted into the Order of Saint Maurice

409
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and Lazarus and these these things go
back to a thousand years. This isn't

410
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some club. I mean, this
goes back further back than the Illuminati.

411
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:31.400
This goes back to I think I
think the early early early eleventh century.

412
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.119
So again, these bloodlines have been
around forever, just like you noted.

413
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And even the people they put on
the world stage, Taylor Swift, they're

414
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part of the clique. You know
what is what are they champion? With

415
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Taylor Swift being a strong independent woman. If you google watch this watch I

416
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:54.639
only google how many children does Taylor
Swift have? How many children does Taylor

417
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:58.880
Swift have? And it's I bet
you it's going to say something to the

418
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.519
fact she put being a mother on
a whole to focus on her career,

419
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:07.199
and you know it's going to give
this really anti mother message. Uh So

420
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.239
here we go enter. Despite being
in the spotlight for years, Taylor Swift

421
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does not have any children. As
of now, she has not mentioned any

422
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:20.400
plans. Instead, she is dedicated
to pursuing her career and creating exceptional music

423
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.639
that resonates with her fans. So
these are the you know, and I'm

424
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.920
sure if you dig deeper, you'll
probably see these type of things you know,

425
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:36.840
and and it's you know, to
champion materialistic things and to focus things

426
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:45.239
away from what they should be focused
on, right, And it's always I

427
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:54.360
didn't understand it as well before,
but the Higlianism that the Jesuits believe,

428
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:01.159
you can have one side, like
democrat. Everyone hates them. They have

429
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:07.719
a lot of bad qualities that made
the ku Klux Klan. They were part

430
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:14.599
of the reason the South was evil, supposedly, and like they did all

431
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:16.800
these bad things and they're the evil
guys and Replodons are going to save them.

432
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:22.159
And yet you just play both sides
and be the evil of both,

433
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:29.480
and you get to a center point
of this is where we actually want control.

434
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.760
We actually don't want you to have
either of these sides. We want

435
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:38.280
you to be pigeonholed into a decision
that will be eventual and it's not really

436
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:45.400
your choice. And that's something that
just keeps showing up over and over again

437
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:52.400
with you have one side everyone hates
them, and then a supposed good side

438
00:40:52.079 --> 00:41:00.800
that then is actually controlled and contrived
and just makes you believe the other side,

439
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.880
and it gives you a very strict
dichotomy, and you get lost in

440
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:13.079
this and there's no other option for
a belief, not that anyone seems to

441
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:21.920
believe in the true things like God
anymore anyway. It's I think that was

442
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:30.880
just the hardest understanding for me because
it's everywhere. It's not one side or

443
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:35.199
the other, it's both sides that
are controlled. Yep. And I think

444
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.840
more and more people are starting to
understand that. And then you know,

445
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:42.599
you go on social media. The
big names on the Conservative there's a guy

446
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.639
named he calls himself Cat Turn.
He's got millions of followers and he could

447
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.559
and all he does is talk how
corrupt you know, Lindsey Graham is,

448
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:53.039
and we have to vote for Trump. We have to vote for Trump,

449
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:58.440
and that is like him and Alex
Jones are the big focus on November.

450
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.480
We gotta win. We got to
win. When you know, doing the

451
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:07.760
same thing over and over and expecting
a different result is the exact result of

452
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.400
insanity. That's a definition of insanity. And that's what we're doing here when

453
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.760
you're talking about voting. It's the
we already gave Trump a try. What

454
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:20.360
did he do? He closed he
stood by is the governor's closed down businesses,

455
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:24.960
and you know he pushed something that
killed and maimed who knows, hundreds

456
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:30.880
of thousands, maybe even millions of
people. He doubled the deficit. He

457
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.159
put a roth Child agent into the
Secretary of Commerce. They're all controlled,

458
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:43.559
and we have to stop putting our
future into these elitist psychopaths who don't care

459
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.920
about you. As much as you
want to believe that. That guy out

460
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.440
there fists pumping and saying how bad
the left is, he didn't lock her

461
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:57.360
up, right, he didn't build
the wall, and he doubled the national

462
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.559
debt. It's all show, it's
all stage. That the truck that's going

463
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.119
to take place here in a couple
of months, that's going to be cinema

464
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.360
for people. And like you,
you made a great point with Hegelianism,

465
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:14.000
something brought forth by uh jeez,
the late eighteen hundreds, by our eighteenth

466
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.280
century, I should say, George
Hegel, who stole that line of thinking

467
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.840
from know Thyself, which is one
of these things that go back to the

468
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:31.000
Temple of Apollo and this ancient Greek
mythology stuff. So again, that's exactly

469
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:35.199
what it is, and people need
to wake up and understand. From my

470
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.559
point of view, I always say
there's two people who can make a difference

471
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.360
in your life, and that's the
person in the mirror and Jesus Christ.

472
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.239
Yeah, but it's part of the
plan. It's Trump will help you.

473
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.480
You just have to wait and see. He didn't what is it the Janior

474
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:57.679
sixth prisoners, He didn't pardon them. He could have done that. That's

475
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.960
part of the plan. Just trust
that they got it. Yeah, just

476
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.119
sit on your hands for another what
is this February? Another nine months?

477
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.239
Sit on your hands and because the
last election was rigged, but this time

478
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:15.599
it for sure it were You know, there's no way. They have murmurings

479
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:21.880
that the entire like last thirty years
was rigged. So if it's always been

480
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:28.920
rigged, what's the difference now,
what proof of change is there? I

481
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:36.119
don't see any I still see ballot
drop off boxes everywhere in Colorado. Like

482
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:45.920
it doesn't make sense to think anything
has been done to change that because I

483
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:54.239
don't see anything. Shockingly, still
talking about kind of Ukraine, Russia,

484
00:44:54.320 --> 00:45:01.280
and then the Israel thing, which
I don't know if it was yourself or

485
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:10.159
someone else, but like, uh
was not Masad whoever started the conflict starts

486
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:15.880
with an h was actually funded by
Israel and America. Yeahs there we go.

487
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:22.800
Yeah, like it's pretty easy to
find that too, and yet it's

488
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.719
totally legit thing. People are probably
for sure probably dying there, but I

489
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:35.239
don't know or that Tel Aviv is
like the gayest city in the world.

490
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:40.960
There are articles, yes, it's
yeah, and then that goes into the

491
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.840
whole what is it a ball?
A ball is jew? Is that what

492
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.400
the term is? Yeah, I
know what you're saying. Yeah, yeah,

493
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.119
but they say they read the Torah, but it's actually the Talmud and

494
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.599
that whole thing. I tried to
find the town load of like what to

495
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.480
read. I was like, do
I really want to have to read all

496
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:08.880
through that of this just evilness?
Like, no, not really, I'll

497
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.559
just I'll stick to the Bible for
now. Yeah, I mean, I

498
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:19.079
more about God than go into the
essentially the town ed and the Zohar.

499
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.000
You really got to be careful.
There's some really crazy stuff in there.

500
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:34.840
Yeah. I'm after like me messy, after believing and coming to God,

501
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.840
and then it would seem like a
slap in the face to immediate be like

502
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.920
I'm going to learn about all these
evil things now. Hopefully no one comes

503
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.719
and knocks on the door of my
soul. That doesn't sound like the best

504
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:53.400
idea, at least for me,
you know, I'd rather continue down,

505
00:46:54.400 --> 00:47:00.599
like reading Scripture. I would eventually
like to get like a Geneva Bible or

506
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:07.679
title one of the older ones where
it has even more of the apocrypha in

507
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:15.880
it, because I listened or watched
dustin Nemos's Seed war like, because it's

508
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:24.440
all parts in they're all videos,
and there's very clear giants and prophecy in

509
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:30.559
Jubilee, for example, just reading
about the similar situations that are in Enoch,

510
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:37.840
and everyone talks about Enoch. But
those other books that aren't in the

511
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:45.360
Bible that is sixty six in total
fun number, have meaning in purpose too,

512
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:55.239
and I and I actually never understood
why there's a whole collection of books

513
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:59.920
that used to be in the Bible
and then books that were never in the

514
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:06.039
Bible but are still kind of divinely
inspired it. I didn't understand that.

515
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:12.239
Maybe you have insight on that,
but like the I don't remember what it's

516
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.239
called, the Poems of Solomon or
like the Psalm of Solomon, like all

517
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:23.440
those and them books that no one
ever talks about, at least not most

518
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:29.320
people, you know, yeah.
And actually the very last, very or

519
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.079
chapter of some what was left out
of the Bible. Was it like one

520
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:42.599
three, yeah, yeah or yeah
yeah that was that is in one of

521
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.400
the apoples of the books that I
tried that I looked at for a Bible

522
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:54.199
and it's why is that missing?
Yeah, it's It's weird, especially with

523
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:02.719
the different versions of today and going
back to the whole podcast flat Earth,

524
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:16.159
firmament change and space being different,
like God's word English standard American standard as

525
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:22.840
opposed to King James and earlier.
They switch around words a lot because we

526
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:34.199
have such a like massive vocabulary compared
to Old Hebrew, and it's easy to

527
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:42.320
change that one percent and get enough
of the message mixed around to confuse so

528
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:52.239
people won't see flat earth biblical cosmology
as true. And like I so many,

529
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.039
I don't think I can look at
my notes while I'm on here,

530
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.199
But now you're fine. But to
be fair, just to play Devil's advocate,

531
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:06.679
you could even get enough testimony or
enough Bible verses from the King James

532
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:10.480
version alone to kind of cite and
prove flat earth, if you will.

533
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.480
When I did my little slide presentations, now I did include Joshua was at

534
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:21.760
ten thirteen, which does mention,
which is interesting because that verse specifically says

535
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.239
and it is written in the Book
of Jasher, and of course the Book

536
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.360
of Jasher is part of the Apocrypha. Yes, that one, yes,

537
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.920
which is I think that was actually
mentioned in Josher eighty nine, which reflects

538
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.840
that of Joshua ten thirteen. And
to be fair, going on the other

539
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:44.199
side, the Geneva Bible, which
is the Bible of the Protestant Reformation as

540
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:47.079
it was called back then, did
contain all eighty books of the Bible,

541
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.480
you know. It was the Old
Testament, the New Testament, and the

542
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:57.519
Apocrypha, if I believe, if
I'm correct, Yeah, yeah, I

543
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:01.280
read if I want to while I'm
listening, because I don't have an audio

544
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:07.079
version of King James. That also
sounds very difficult for the Old Engli or

545
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:12.639
Middle English to hear that all the
time and to understand. But if something

546
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.239
hits in my brain like, oh, that's interesting, then I look up

547
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:21.760
King James, and then I go
through Strong's concordance too, to just to

548
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:27.760
see like the Hebrew or the Greek
word and to see what those mean and

549
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:35.480
kind of cross reference for myself on
passages that are telling or come up in

550
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:39.719
like interesting to me. Yeah,
it's it's a very very good tool.

551
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.880
Getting back to flat Earth. You
said you've only been a flat earther for

552
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:49.239
about two months. What led you
to investigate it? Right? To put

553
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.719
down your pride and you knowing what
you might be getting into? What was

554
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:57.079
it that you know? What?
Was it a video? Was it somebody

555
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.760
send you an email? What led
you to look at too? Flat Earth?

556
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:08.119
So I realized thinking about it,
I actually watched an interview with what's

557
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.880
Oakley? I can't remember his first
name? Is that Nathan Oakley? Yes,

558
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:17.119
Nathan Oakley, another guy that was
a flat earther, and then two

559
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:22.639
like one was an old Navy officer, and then another guy running the thing,

560
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.920
and they had a four way interview
and they had the globe wirth.

561
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.920
Guys had no clue what the heck
they were talking about. They couldn't back

562
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:38.599
up any sort of the numbers of
the agreed upon narrative, and yet Nathan

563
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:44.239
Oakley and the other guy were just
decimating And I was like, well,

564
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.440
this sounds very reasonable. And that
was maybe a year ago, and I

565
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:53.280
forgot about it, and then randomly
three four months ago. I saw your

566
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:58.519
podcast recommended on my Spotify. I'm
like, I'm not looking at that right

567
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:02.519
now, probably go down rabbit hole. That isn't healthy. And then I

568
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:07.920
finally clicked on it and I read
the I watched the listen to the first

569
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.880
one, and then I took it
kind of so I'm like, I don't

570
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:15.719
need to get super involved. And
then after a week I was listening to

571
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.360
it NonStop all day and I don't
know how many episodes you have on there,

572
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.920
but I wasn't all of them,
every single one that's out right now

573
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:29.039
I've listened to in a couple of
multiple times, and I think I was

574
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:36.719
already primed from that interview that I
saw, like, no, this is

575
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:45.239
completely reasonable, and it just made
more and more sense, and it wasn't

576
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:54.760
as destructive to my worldview, like
because I already was basically there. I

577
00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:01.119
just didn't cement it and accept it
in my own concent his thoughts, because

578
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:07.000
I would already already like pen trails
constantly in Colorado Springs for the last three

579
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:13.360
months, just seeing crisscross everywhere and
doesn't even look like clouds are reel anymore,

580
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:23.639
that they're all made. So after
all that, yeah, It wasn't

581
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.599
a big surprise to me. I
just was like, I don't really want

582
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:35.039
to tell anyone this. I've told
one person that I've one of my friends,

583
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:40.119
like my one friend that I've told
we're drinking at a hub or brewery.

584
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:45.400
I was like going over certain like
a conspiracy, like do you believe

585
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:49.239
in this? That? And I'm
like I'll go for it. Do you

586
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.159
believe in flat earth? He's like
yeah, Like sweet, there's one,

587
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:59.079
oh wow, pleasant surprise. The
last guest I interviewed yesterday, she said

588
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.480
we need to come up with some
kind of code to ask people. Get

589
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.960
this international code instead of saying,
hey are you a flat earther? Uh,

590
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:16.440
to write like, uh do you
like some yeah something because like jeep

591
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:21.760
people who own jeeps have this weird
signal like they kind of throw two fingers

592
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:23.760
at each other when they pass,
and uh, you know, motorcycles,

593
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:29.239
and we need to have some kind
of a little signal like if people give

594
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:30.480
you like a weird eye, like
what's going on with you? Okay,

595
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.519
he's not a flat earther, you
get a flash back like hey man,

596
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.960
what's that? Let's go to Antarctica? Yeah? Right? I wanted to

597
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:44.400
I wanted to ask you because in
one of your correspondences, you had mentioned

598
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:50.880
that you haven't told your wife or
your in laws about the flat Earth yet,

599
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:52.960
and it was something that from the
way I read it, it was

600
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:57.320
kind of weighing on your mind.
That was a couple of weeks ago.

601
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:02.519
Since that particular correspondence, has anything
changed. So I told my mother in

602
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:07.679
law and I told her I would
give her this to listen to. I'm

603
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.880
not going to listen to this episode
because I don't like having to hear to

604
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.000
my own voice. I know you've
said the same, Yeah, I can't

605
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.800
stand my voice. Yeah, because
I hear one thing and then i'll hear

606
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:25.559
the recording anyway. So I told
my mother in law yesterday that I was

607
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:29.079
going to do an interview that I
was going to be a guest. I

608
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.280
didn't say what, and I didn't
send her the episode yet. I was

609
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:37.360
like, I'll send you the other
podcast and then i'll send you the one

610
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.960
in like the first episode Why to
Lie, And then I kind of left

611
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:51.280
it that I my wife was baking
and I was watching our daughter before I

612
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:52.039
did this, and I was like, ah, crap, I'm going to

613
00:56:52.039 --> 00:57:00.159
be late, and yeah, it
weighs on me. But where's my point?

614
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.800
I jokingly told her. I was
like, oh, hey, you

615
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:14.559
know how I magically stopped being such
a pain in the back in Yeah,

616
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:19.559
that was God love you, Den, And then like a couple of days

617
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:22.159
ago, I was like, no, really, like I like believe in

618
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:30.000
God now. Cool. Cool.
So I'm trying to slowly but surely tell

619
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:42.519
her in a way because one,
I've been a trying to have an elegant,

620
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:52.119
eloquent way of saying this a nuisance
and kind of a bastard for a

621
00:57:52.159 --> 00:58:00.880
while and just recently doing better with
that. Not perfectly, but a lot

622
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:08.239
better. And like I said before, a lot of conspiracy stuff turned to

623
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:15.880
a negative emotional state and outward like
thinking of everything and actions and all this

624
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:22.440
kind of thing. So I really
want to build up our own relationship and

625
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:31.519
kind of slowly drop breadcrumbs to God
and Jesus like also this thing, because

626
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.719
then after that there's nothing else,
I mean, besides the everything is the

627
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:49.440
devil's work of this world. But
I think you had someone come on.

628
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.679
I can't remember when it was a
while, it was within the last thirty

629
00:58:53.719 --> 00:59:04.320
episodes of the Person's Wife is more
focused on just living and doesn't want to

630
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:08.000
be bogged down by the conspiracies as
much because it's just too much. And

631
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:15.239
my wife is similar to that,
and our baby. She doesn't sleep nearly

632
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:19.239
as much as everyone else, so
it's harder to care about that kind of

633
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:24.159
stuff and it weighs on her more. So I don't want her to think

634
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:32.079
that I am going to fall back
into a terrible habit and pattern, but

635
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:37.599
also to not have to have her
deal with too much, because it would

636
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:44.519
be nice to tell her, but
I'm terrified. Yeah, I eventually,

637
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.119
yeah, I get it, and
forge it's a new rabbit hole for you.

638
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:52.840
You said, you know, two
months basically, so you probably consume

639
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.719
a lot of information and it's easy
for you know, the bigger ones you

640
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:01.559
fall into. Like for me,
when I kind of was hipped to nine

641
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:05.960
to eleven, I probably disappeared off
the face of the earth for about six

642
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.400
weeks and my wife's like, what's
wrong with you? Nothing? And there

643
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:13.920
was that was a lie, of
course, because I realized that, you

644
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.280
know, I mean, obviously,
spending that much time in the military,

645
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:19.400
you find the truth out about nine
to eleven. It leads a little bit

646
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.760
of a bitter feeling with you and
flat Earth was a different one. I've

647
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:27.119
mentioned it before. I went through
every gambit of emotions, from anger to

648
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:32.480
frustrations to joy, which was the
end state. I'm not afraid to tell

649
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.039
people I'm a flat Earth anymore.
It's just like, you know, I'm

650
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.360
out of the closet all the way
now, I got the bumper sticker to

651
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:45.519
prove it, I got the shirts, and you know, it's just to

652
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:50.599
me. I think Dave wife Dave
Weiss mentioned this, and it took me

653
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:52.760
a while to kind of understand it. It's a way of life, like

654
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:57.559
I don't consider it on par with
like walking with God, that is by

655
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.800
far the most important thing. But
at this same time, I've had this

656
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:07.360
conversation with many people. While it's
not a direct salvation issue, it does

657
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:12.360
hinder people from seeing the truth.
And I think it's okay for people like

658
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.239
your wife was saying. I think, like what you were trying to describe

659
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:19.840
your wife to be somewhere in the
middle of someone who is completely oblivious to

660
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.920
how the world really works, to
being like Roddy Piper and they live where

661
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:28.760
you're just screaming people to put the
glasses on right it's okay to be somewhere

662
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.519
in the middle to where you're cognizant
of the truth, and when you're in

663
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:38.679
a position to share knowledge with somebody, you should although it may leave them

664
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:44.280
with a bitter pill. I think
maybe if more, and this including myself,

665
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:52.079
I'm putting myself first and foremost before
I mentioned this because I knew and

666
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.400
maybe I should have been more profound
and said more things to more people about

667
01:01:54.400 --> 01:02:00.800
the Jet Right, But that was
such a divisive topic. I use everything

668
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.000
to divide us. I mean that
first year twenty twenty, that was a

669
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:07.400
rough year for a lot of families. You can't come see me because you're

670
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.559
not chapped, right, children,
grandmams. It was horrible, horrible,

671
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:15.480
horrible, And that's why I go
back every six months and replay COVID for

672
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:19.480
my listeners. I want, I
never want people to forget what they did

673
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.320
to us. So but yeah,
again, it's okay to be somewhere in

674
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.360
the middle, to be cognizant of
the evil and to say, hey,

675
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:30.000
before you know, maybe you should
really think about this, as opposed to

676
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:35.599
either being completely you know, mister
tinfoil hat like they portray us as.

677
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:37.320
And by the way, I like
the term you used in your email a

678
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:43.559
conspiracy analyst, not so much a
conspiracy theorist. And I've heard that somewhere

679
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.920
too. Yeah, or to you
know, the bluepill, just completely,

680
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:54.880
I don't want to know anything.
Yeah. Well, and obviously she's pretty

681
01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:00.599
far into it because we had a
home worse where you are never vaccinating our

682
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:06.079
kid while poisoning our kid. We're
gonna well, she's going to homeschool because

683
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:12.239
I'll be working and she'll probably be
doing most of it anyway. But my

684
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:21.079
goal is to show because I've been
doing this for a couple months and very

685
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:28.840
responsibly compared to before, being happy
and everything and actually having a level of

686
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:37.840
mind and still going through all these
things because well, I know that if

687
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:45.320
I do all the right like morally
well and aim for those kind of things,

688
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:52.639
God will not be as mad and
we'll forgive a lot because that's what

689
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.800
he does and a time and time
again does that in the Bible over and

690
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.880
over and over again, especially after
the flood, and like, what is

691
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:12.559
it, I think I'm in Isaiah
or job and just the forgiveness over and

692
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:18.119
over again. So being able to
show that I'm I'm doing way better,

693
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:24.119
So it's not that bad. So
maybe after a little bit, I can

694
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:30.280
drop a little hints and then finally
just roll the grenade into the room and

695
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.960
see what happens, and it wouldn't
be as bad. Let the chips fall

696
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:40.320
where they may lie for sure.
Yeah. So, well, you know

697
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.840
that is a conundrum we all deal
with, you know, not just our

698
01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:47.960
spouses, but certainly you know,
extended family and friends. Because there are

699
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:53.679
people, I mean, there are
people for a living. It seems like

700
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:59.119
at least that will just email or
join flat Earth groups and just barrage it

701
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:02.000
with negativity. You know, you're
all morons or this, that or the

702
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:06.559
other thing, which so it obviously
goes to show going all the way back

703
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:14.760
to the Joseph Goebbels and Edward Bernesian
type of psychology. They understand Satan understands

704
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:23.159
how important this topic is to the
evolution, Big Bang Heliosnsion trilogy. As

705
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:27.000
far as hiding God, they can't
create anything, so they use tools of

706
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:31.639
deceit and perversion and distractions. Right. You know, everybody's seen the meme

707
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:38.639
of half Roman Colisseum, half an
NFL stadium. And again, I enjoy

708
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.519
sports too, I don't beat it
up purposely, but at the same time

709
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:45.480
you've got to be very careful too, because it can there's so many distractions,

710
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:50.639
including that little, you know,
three by six thing that we carry

711
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:56.679
in our pockets and we communicate with
and we watch videos constantly, that itself

712
01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.760
can be a diversion as well.
Yeah, and I get lost in that

713
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.039
trap plenty of times. I'm like, I need to stop. I need

714
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:13.000
to stop. And it's just I
know the level of literal brain manipulation the

715
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:21.480
technology has, and it's truly ridiculous, I think. So you can still

716
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:30.679
find a patent for like television and
like a certain ten to twelve perts for

717
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:40.840
hypnosis, and that's from like the
eighties or nineties maybe, And yet there's

718
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:45.000
these phones and they have a certain
signal and all these things, and then

719
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:53.679
the apps, especially social media were
created by DARPA and CIA and government projects

720
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:58.960
to go along with MK ultra and
mind control. And I know that,

721
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:03.599
and yet I still get sucked into
it. And it's a weird dichotomy to

722
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:10.280
know it's terrible, know that you
can use the devil's powers against him,

723
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:16.920
and yet still get trapped in the
whole of it, sucking you in it's

724
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:26.360
and it's never the conspiracy stuff or
truth. It's always some random bs that

725
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:28.280
you're just like, oh, yeah, this is great and I'll just sit

726
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.480
here and mindlefully scroll through this,
and you're like, dang it, it's

727
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:33.280
been two hours. What did I
just do with my life? Should have

728
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:38.119
read a book instead? At least
I would have been stimulated neural growth or

729
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:41.800
something. Right. Yeah, and
a good point too, by the by

730
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:44.239
the way, you know, we've
had guests on in the past who had

731
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:49.039
mentioned that popular music music excuse me, is recorded at a certain you know,

732
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:54.719
hurts, you know, to get
you. But hypnosis, you know

733
01:07:55.079 --> 01:08:00.000
that seven to eight hurts right there
at the alpha theta border. I'm sure

734
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:02.760
they have some type of things that
they can throw at you there as well.

735
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:10.519
I'm assuming at this point, what
can't they do within the realm of

736
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:17.479
possibility? I just it's mind boggling. You can't know everything, and yet

737
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:24.880
you know there's so much more that
they can do. It's it's impressive,

738
01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:29.239
really, if you take out the
it's evil. I mean it's evil,

739
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.920
but wow, they got a lot
of tools and I can't even fathom half

740
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:41.319
of them. Truly impressive. And
what what what is it, something like

741
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:47.319
the devil is beautiful comes Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what the

742
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:54.960
verse is, but basically the deceptions
are beautiful and yet there's still evil,

743
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:04.199
but they look good while it's happening. Yeah, so, yeah, all

744
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:09.560
great stuff. We are at about
fifteen minutes out. So was there anything

745
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:13.000
that you wanted to cover before we
wrapped up that you hadn't had a chance

746
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:16.600
to mention yet? Yeah? I
let me take a look because I think

747
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:24.880
it won't let me look at my
notes and one second. Yeah, sure,

748
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:36.520
we basically touched on all of them. The one I think I heard

749
01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:42.680
like, is it called sunning or
basically looking at the sun? Yes,

750
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:48.560
s yeah, yeah, I have
done that randomly when I've washed my phone

751
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:54.439
for way too much. And once
you get like Sarah, if you're ten

752
01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:59.960
twenty seconds and then you can see
the disc of the sun and it stops

753
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:03.039
hurting. And then the next day
I'm like, my eyes don't hurt as

754
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:13.079
much because I actually had a metallic
foreign object in my cornea on my right

755
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:17.720
side and it got bored off and
it is now a twenty twenty instead of

756
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:23.119
twenty fifteen. But it gets blurry
easier, and I've noticed when I've done

757
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:29.199
that sungazing it actually reduces the blurriness
when I'm trying to focus my eye.

758
01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:32.319
And I'm like, oh, that's
really cool. But I heard that from

759
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:36.640
you, And I don't know if
there's any like actual research or anything that

760
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:41.600
goes along with that. I'm sure
there probably is. You know, I

761
01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:44.840
always tell people to make sure,
like you said, you know, start

762
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:48.199
out very small increments, and you
know, everybody's different, so everybody's going

763
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.399
not going to have the same reaction
as you or I. And I'm sure

764
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:55.680
the older you get, you know, the difference you're going to feel.

765
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:00.520
My eyesight is something I've been struggling
with as I get older. For sure,

766
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:05.640
just within a year, I had
a pretty you know change envision.

767
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:11.199
I have some cataracts and my one
eye they're not big enough to operate yet,

768
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:14.720
but it's certainly something that even as
I if I'm writing an article or

769
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:18.079
I'm working on the website or prepping
for an article or for a podcast,

770
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:23.439
it's something that if I stare too
long at my screen, it gives me

771
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:26.920
a headache and things get blurry.
So you know, I seem to do

772
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.159
that more in the summer than the
winter. But that's something I should probably

773
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:32.439
try to do, remind myself during
the day, even in the winter,

774
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:36.119
when there's a good sun, to
get outside and do that. Yeah,

775
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:40.720
and I have only done it for
like less than a minute the times I've

776
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:44.800
done it, and it's sunset typically
is when I remember, because I wake

777
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.520
up before the sun, go to
work before it's sunny typically, and then

778
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:54.479
I'm working and you know, there's
no time to really remember that. But

779
01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:59.880
I guess the only other thing was
silver bullets. Yeah, please do go

780
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:05.800
ahead, let me may read over
them real quick. Mm hm hmmm.

781
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:15.319
I liked the Van Allen belt.
That one is always after learning that how

782
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:20.600
the radiation at above the globe Earth
is so high and yet we can send

783
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:28.760
that little kids strike with gold foil
past four thousand degrees fahrenheit, and yet

784
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:34.119
it's made of aluminum and that melts
way sooner. That is a big one.

785
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:40.800
Use their information, and yet it
doesn't make any sense based off what

786
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:47.319
they say. So that's that's one
moon temp that's always been interesting. Yea,

787
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:53.079
And that's something we can all do. Yeah, that one's really easy.

788
01:12:54.159 --> 01:13:01.640
You just the little infrared laser pointing
temperature, and you can just one

789
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:03.720
in the light of the moon,
one in the shade of the moon,

790
01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:10.680
and it's very clearly like a degree
ish somewhere in there difference. It's really

791
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:13.680
neat. Yeah, I've seen it
as much as three or four sometimes.

792
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:20.960
Wow, that's cool. Yeah.
Bible verses I can't off top of my

793
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:27.079
head remember all of them, but
there are so many throughout the current Bible

794
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:31.560
that say that the Earth is standing
still, that there's a firmament, and

795
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:38.399
pillars of the Earth don't move,
the Earth stood or the yeah there stood

796
01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:45.359
still, or like the stunt was
made to stay still. Like those are

797
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:50.239
very clear, especially if you are
into the Bible and believe in God or

798
01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:57.640
even just want to do it that
way. It's very clearly articulated in there.

799
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:03.800
I think it was I think of
the firm Mental did a podcast for

800
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:08.239
the guy and he went over that
it was one of their more recent ones.

801
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:20.560
What was the other ones? The
numbers with how fast the Earth moves

802
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:26.399
and rotates and then rotates around the
Sun and the space itself, it gets

803
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:30.279
all ridiculous, and especially if you
pair that with what it used to be

804
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.880
back when Galileo, they're like,
oh, it's only a million miles away

805
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:41.520
the sun is, and now it's
ninety three million miles away, And just

806
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:46.279
stick your hand outside the car while
you're going even sixty down the highway and

807
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:53.479
you can feel that movement. And
yet the planes don't have to correct for

808
01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:58.399
moving at one thousand miles per hour
in space. But yet it's a closed

809
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.800
system. And yet there's a vacuum
outside of the closed system, so there's

810
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:14.199
an invisible barrier. Yeah, it
all just crumbles on itself. Yeah,

811
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:17.239
not to mention all those sixes in
the numbers as well, right, what

812
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:20.399
was that? Not to mention?
You were talking about all the numbers that

813
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:24.479
are involved with heliocentrism, and so
many of them have the sixes in them.

814
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:30.920
Yes, like the was it sixty
six one hundred miles rotating around the

815
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.840
sun? Yeah, sixty six thousands, and they changed it. Yeah,

816
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:36.760
then they changed to sixty six thousand. Now it's sixty seven. I think

817
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:41.560
they say, I think too many
people were catching on. Yeah, and

818
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.399
they update that so you can't look. And yeah, those always I like

819
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:53.800
the numbers. One because the scientism
loves to say the numbers don't lie.

820
01:15:54.039 --> 01:16:00.760
I hear that so often and yet
they're used all the time. Why you

821
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:08.680
just have to reverse engineer it to
get to where you want. It's if

822
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:14.439
you understand numbers enough. Especially like
my dad, he's going to college for

823
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:17.319
physics, and he's like going through
all these math classes and like, you

824
01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:20.359
know all this math, and yet
you're like, math is the answer of

825
01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:29.439
the universe. But yeah, it's
it's weird. What was what was the

826
01:16:29.479 --> 01:16:40.000
other one? M oh all the
freemason stuff associated with the people who started

827
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:50.960
heliocentrism with Galileo as a freemason or
even an evolution like Darwin was connected.

828
01:16:51.239 --> 01:17:00.119
His entire family was Darwin, all
of those guys. Yeah, those those

829
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:08.079
ones a lot, And yeah,
I like all those ones. You know.

830
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:12.039
It's something I wanted to ask you. And I'm glad I remembered before

831
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:17.239
we wrapped up because you were in
h I'm sorry, where did you say

832
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:20.920
you were before you moved to Colorado? Washington State? Watching it? Thank

833
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:27.279
you so much. I know that
Washington State does have some elevation, But

834
01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:31.800
one thing I'll never forget is how
much brighter the sun is. I remember

835
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:38.279
driving up Academy or Powers on certain
mornings, or driving east as the sun's

836
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:44.600
coming up in the morning and it's
absolutely blinding. It is unbearable. It's

837
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:50.520
truly like one of those two thousand
lumen cop flashlights to the eyeball. And

838
01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:57.319
yeah, even I, yeah,
I never experienced the sun's intensity when I

839
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.920
lived in Washington. It was a
joke or sunburns. I did not burn

840
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:10.279
nearly as easily at sea level,
unless it was like hours in the sun,

841
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.319
or you fall asleep and you're like, oh crap, I burned my

842
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:15.720
calves one way that way, and
it's like one of the hardest places to

843
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:18.880
burn. And yet twenty minutes during
the summer and you're going just on a

844
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:26.800
hike and my ears are almost blistered
because of how strong it is. I

845
01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:30.800
will tell you the two worst sunburns
that I remember. I'm sure I got

846
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.439
some in Iraq, but in Jamaica
when I was in the Delaware National Guards,

847
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:38.840
we went down and rebuilt their compound
after one of the hurricanes in the

848
01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:43.359
eighties, and we had a day
off before we left, and I got

849
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:45.960
I mean third degree burns. I
mean I was laid up for a day

850
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:49.079
awful. The other one was in
Colorado and I wasn't even out that long.

851
01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:53.000
Just you were that much closer to
the sun. And O people will

852
01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:55.399
say this, that and the other
thing, But I mean I remember getting

853
01:18:55.439 --> 01:19:00.560
fried quick at that elevation. Yeah. Well that's another thing. The intensity

854
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:06.359
of the sun at zero to five
hundred feet compared to fifty two hundred to

855
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:11.960
seven thousand is it's more like the
Manitou Incline, or even being on top

856
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:18.800
of Pike's Peaches Pikes Peak, which
is fourteen thousand something. It's truly different.

857
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:23.199
Even though it's cold up there,
it's the sun hurts and it hurts

858
01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:26.840
bad. And you know what I
wish I could go back to. I

859
01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:30.640
got to get back to the springs
because I used to do the incline all

860
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:31.640
the time. That used to be
part of our PT, because you know,

861
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:36.800
it's only what a half hour drive
from from Fort Carson to to Manitou

862
01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:40.520
Springs, maybe a little more,
but that used to be our PT.

863
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:44.239
And getting up at the top and
you turn around and look in retrospect,

864
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:46.119
man, how I mean, that's
proof right there that you're at this flat.

865
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.920
You've been up there right? Oh
yeah, I've yeah, And they

866
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:55.760
refurbished it too, so it's you're
not gonna goug yourself on a rusty drainage

867
01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:59.880
pipe. Now that's cool. Yeah, they had a little but like train

868
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:05.319
thing trestles as steps. They still
have them, but they're nice and treated

869
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:09.960
and brand new, and it's not
spaced where you're taking a double step,

870
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:15.039
for one, So it's quite nice. It's it's booming here. There's it

871
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:19.359
might take an hour to get from
Carson to Manituo Springs nowadays. Yeah,

872
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:24.119
it's there's a lot more people.
And that started with COVID right after,

873
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:29.199
like right when I left it exploded. Wow, yeah, there's a lot

874
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:33.479
more people. But it is very
telling. Like I've gone up to buy

875
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:41.000
the Broadmoor Hotel, have property up
into the mountains essentially, and just going

876
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:45.840
up those paths you can just see
and see and see for miles. And

877
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:54.920
that's actually one thing with all those
chemtrails. Not only is it the chemicals

878
01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:59.159
for the cloud seating and the weather
manipulation, but it also makes it very

879
01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:04.439
hard to see further, and it
kind of diffuses and makes the sky transparent,

880
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:10.920
and along with that the horizon looks
more obscure. So I always thought

881
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.119
that since it's so mountainous and you
can get up, you can't see as

882
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.000
far because of all those chem trails, and it's yeah, it's almost daily.

883
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:25.239
It's especially through this winter. It's
been basically daily, and it's very

884
01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:30.239
interesting. Lucky I haven't gotten sick, my wife and I haven't. I

885
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:34.720
think only my brother in law has. We'll knock on wood and continue that.

886
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:43.199
Yeah, it's been in an awesome
conversation and it's really great to meet

887
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:45.199
you. And if I ever make
it back, I mean I will.

888
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:46.920
I still have a lot of friends
out there. I think I was back

889
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:50.840
there twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen before
COVID. So I get out there,

890
01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:56.279
I'll look you up and we'll hang
out and swat some stories and maybe we'll

891
01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:59.800
wake a few people up while we're
doing that. Sounds great. Maybe do

892
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:02.800
a whole convention. Yeah, there
you go. I really want to start

893
01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:05.920
doing those type of things. There's
so much involved. And one thing that

894
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:13.199
I found is a lot of people
like we're trying to find a restaurant or

895
01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:15.680
something like that because I'm gonna be
on the road and I'm trying to in

896
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:20.560
April to do a show in Oklahoma
City and Waco. But these people are

897
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:26.439
really hesitant. They're so worried because
so many people have lost business, partly

898
01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:30.119
because of COVID, partly because of
just the prices of everything. You know,

899
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.119
you know, you go get a
hamburger, fries and a coke,

900
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:36.279
it's like fifteen bucks. Now people
are so scared to lose business they don't

901
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:41.119
want to risk anything. So it's
almost come to come to the point we're

902
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.119
gonna have to raise money and like
rent a hall or something, just because

903
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:48.600
the restaurants are so afraid to have
any type of negative publicity on them from

904
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.840
COVID. Toler Springs lost thirty percent
of small business. Yes, sir,

905
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:56.960
that's that's on the low side.
It's just abhorring. And my buddy owns

906
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:01.439
a guy I served with in two
tours, a big popular bar on the

907
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:08.239
west side in the older part of
the Springs Billie's or Patties or something like.

908
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:12.920
I can't remember the name of it
to save my life. But they

909
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:15.880
they were devastated. And only not
only the restaurants, but like where He's

910
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.920
at, you know, they had
live shows every night. So all the

911
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:24.199
people who relied on that extra income
for music groups and comedians and things.

912
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.920
They and like when I was in
Texas, I dj' et cetera. All

913
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:32.720
that stuff went away for a couple
of years. Yeah, and it's it

914
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:36.880
hasn't really come back. And sadly, like I think, just a tidbit,

915
01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:42.479
like we have autoimmune disorders, I
guess, so you don't even eat

916
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:46.479
out like the whole plant family of
night shades can't have any of that.

917
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:53.880
And so yeah, it makes you
save a lot of money when you don't

918
01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:57.479
go out. But I would love
to be able to go out and hang

919
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:00.640
out, and yet everything is so
gosh our expensive. I'm kind of glad

920
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:05.359
most of the time. Sure is
Well, Listen, brother, it's been

921
01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:10.560
it's been an absolute pressure to pleasure
to have you on. And best of

922
01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:14.319
luck to you and your wife and
your your little one. And it sounds

923
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:16.439
like you've got great in laws,
so big shout out to them, and

924
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:18.399
then shout out to your mother in
law who will be listening to this.

925
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:27.079
Right. Yep, there you go, we'll see you're you're welcome. It

926
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:30.239
was really a pressure, Uh what
I keep saying, I can't say pleasure.

927
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:32.279
It was really great to have you
on for Charles. I'm George.

928
01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:35.680
Everybody have a great week. I
bless y'all. I'll keep your head on

929
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:39.960
a swivel, and until the next
time we meet my friends, we will

930
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:48.319
see you. I know it's been
a struggle. I don't know if you've

931
01:24:48.359 --> 01:25:00.880
had. I feel t hell down
all the way. God, I know

932
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:09.920
you feel more. Your smile ain't
the same. I saw you wall go

933
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:18.399
from You feel like you've lost your
way. Don't give up. No,

934
01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:26.640
don't give it and nevers home.
Don't let call the primies. It ain't

935
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:30.920
done. Ye's God up playing?
Why it's all right? Time? Got

936
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:41.479
up? Let me come? Why
wait? God up? Y come?

937
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:54.199
I can see the straight beside you. Child's are putting up the five.

938
01:25:56.159 --> 01:26:01.199
Oh, you're stronger than any thing. Yeah, you're gonna be all right.

939
01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:12.319
You're accepting a bad found you beautiful. You're shoving ride. Yeah,

940
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:21.479
you're live and breathing. Move you
can hold your head of pie. Don't

941
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:27.600
give up. No, don't give
in. You never lose home. Don't

942
01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:33.039
let go on the primise. It
ain't done. Yet's got a plan wants

943
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:40.239
a wain tail the God of me
because don't give up. No, don't

944
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:45.520
give in, you never lose home. Don't let go on the promise.

945
01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:50.359
It ain't God of life. It's
worth living. W a wainetail, the

946
01:26:50.640 --> 01:27:03.199
God of baby called why a place, the God no pay? Oh yeah,

947
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:16.600
what a break down? The god
baby Oh yeah, got TV cor

948
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:31.520
don't give up, No, don't
give in never song do they goal of

949
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:38.079
the crimes? I mean and done? Yes, got up playing, watch

950
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:46.119
and do kind of ivy cots,
don't give no dog giving whatever its home

951
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:51.680
do the goal of the crimes,
It ain't done. Love's worth, living

952
01:27:53.640 --> 01:28:10.920
works and the God of heavy cords
all the God of needs. Why the

953
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:27.319
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