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Art. Today, an indictment was
unsealed charging Donald J. Trump with conspiring

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to defraud the United States, conspiring
to disenfranchise voters, and conspiring and attempting

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to obstruct an official proceeding. The
indictment was issued by a grandeury of citizens

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here in the District of Columbia,
and it sets forth the crimes charged in

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detail. That's the voice of Special
Counsel Jack Smith announcing yesterday that President former

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President Donald J. Trump has now
been indicted for the third time. This

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is unprecedented in that he is Donald
Trump, the first president former president to

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be indicted for any crimes whatsoever.
But this is his third indictment, the

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second on the federal level. He
has one indictment in the state of New

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York with District Attorney Alvin Bragg,
who level charges against him on the state

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level, and he's also facing a
third a fourth rather potential indictment in the

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state of Georgia Fulton County around the
Atlanta, Georgia area under the direction of

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Fannie Willis. Donald Trump has gone
down into history as the most impeached and

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the most indicted president in the history
of this empire. Welcome, ladies,

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gentlemen, and gender nonconforming individuals to
another episode of The Benjamin Dixon Show.

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Today is Wednesday, August second,
two and twenty three. It is a

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very momentous time in American history,
this particular indictment, I am. I'm

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particularly grateful four because of the ongoing
efforts by the same people who surrounded Donald

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Trump to try to convince him that
there was election fraud and that he actually

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won. The same people who were
behind January sixth, Those are the same

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people who are today trying to implement
their slow coup. So it bodes well

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for America to see that the empire
itself, the system, the bureaucracy,

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the machine, right, the mechanism
that is the American Empire, is willing

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to hold itself accountable by holding the
top position in this empire accountable. And

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it feels a little, you know, it feels a little extreme that out

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of all of the things that Donald
Trump is guilty for, the only thing

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that this country really held him accountable
for trying to destroy the country, right,

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it seemed like, you know,
this was an extreme case that the

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government could not ignore. They simply
could not ignore the very active measures that

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Donald Trump took to overturn the election, to overthrow and circumvent our democracy,

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to disenfranchise voters. I mean,
he was going after the entirety of our

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democracy, and so he had to
be held accountable. Listened to more from

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Special Council Jack Smith. The attack
on our nation's capital on January sixth,

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twenty one was an unprecedented assault on
the seat of American democracy described in the

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indictment, It was fueled by lies, lies by the defendant targeted at obstructing

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a bedrock function of the US government, the nation's process of collecting, counting,

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and certifying the results of the presidential
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this is what Donald Trump was going
after he worked himself into a frenzy leading

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up to the last election, He
and his supporters, he constantly said that

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there's no way they could lose,
and he said that over and over and

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over again. He would not admit. He would never say that he would

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concede. Would he never said that
he would participate in a peaceful transfer of

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power, because he hyped himself up
into believing that the only way that he

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could possibly lose was through some type
of election fraud. He convinced himself of

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it, he convinced millions of Americans
of it, and those Americans went out

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and committed acts of insurrection on January
sixth. And so it's fitting that Donald

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Trump is facing some of the same
exact charges that other participants in January six

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were charged with. I mean,
if anybody goes to jail for January six

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it should certainly be Donald Trump.
Now, I don't actually believe that he's

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going to spend a day in jail, because I mean, we're already in

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historic times. You know, we
already have passed several Rubicans, and I

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don't think that the nine Ed States
government actually wants to see one of their

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former presidents locked up in one of
our imperial prisons. I just don't think

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that's going to happen. But the
truth is that he, at a minimum

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needed to be charged with the same
exact crimes that all of the other people

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who participated on January sixth were charged
with because he inspired it. He is

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the one that hyped them up into
a frenzy, and the terrifying notion is

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that they are still hyping themselves up
into a frenzy to this day. In

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response to this, of course,
people are talking about civil war. They

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always throw civil war around. Listen
to more from Jack Smith about the events

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that happened that day. Since the
attack on our capitol, the Department of

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Justice has remained committed to ensuring accountability
for those criminally responsible for what happened that

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day. This case is brought consistent
with that commitment, and our investigation of

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other individuals continues. And to be
honest with you, this is almost a

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no win situation for the federal government
as an entity. And I speak of

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the federal government not based on which
administration is in power. I'm speaking of

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the federal government that exists whether or
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in power. This particular situation is
almost untenable to have to charge a former

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president. But they were pushed.
The government was pushed into a corner where

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the crimes of Donald Trump were so
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charge them. You understand, like, if they ignored what Donald Trump did,

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two things would have happened. One, it would have set a president

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for a future president to do similarly
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it most certainly would exacerbate the push
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Right if they didn't do anything,
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if like if they just let January
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most certainly would face another attempt.
There's just no question. I mean,

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hey, they're trying to do it
again anyway. They're digging in. Conservatives

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are digging in, trying to trying
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So the threat has not passed.
But this fiasco, this spectacle that was

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January six, had to go answered. It could not go unanswered by this

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empire. And this is the only
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the federal government not brought charges,
it would have left It would have set

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a precedent that would have left the
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there to be any prosecutions in the
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would not have prosecuted January six ers, they wouldn't have to. They would

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not have prosecuted the former president,
right, So they absolutely had no choice

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in this. And when we come
back from this break, we would discuss

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more. I could have clips from
Attorney General Mary Garland, he was in

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a bad spot on this. And
of course the Republicans, they are up

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in arms Fox News, Margie Taylor
Green, they're all losing their minds.

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Will discuss all of this more after
this break we'll be back. But look,

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I'm in nine with the stars.
I'm a sink with the earth,

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Tinto's deep flower child from the turf. I never switch sides, like even

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when I die. I'm a ride
for the squad letter ties in the hearst.

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I've been on a five kind of
hard to describe. I'm in between

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them good and it's fine, but
I'm tired of the ground. Then I

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come alive in the night to realize
I'm in a minute with a time of

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my life. I'm never so bag
that I writed Queen. Welcome back to

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Welcome back. I want to play
a clip of Attorney General Merrick Garland,

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who had some comments to to say, and I want you to listen

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to how he describes um this investigation. The meticulous nature of this investigation,

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But I also want you to listen
through the lens of this fact. America

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did not want to indict Donald Trump
for all of the reasons I outlined in

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the A part of this episode.
The United States government has never held a

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former president accountable. But Donald Trump's
crimes were so egregious. I mean,

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they were a direct threat to democracy, such that if the government ignored it,

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it would have been detrimental to the
empire, to democracy itself. There's

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no way America could have not indict
at Donald Trump. But that puts the

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opposition party Merritt Garland, who represents
the Biden administration. It puts them in

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an extremely untenable situation because no matter
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to be viewed as political by the
opposition. So here is Merritt Garland.

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So immediately after the January sixth attack
on our democracy, probably the careermen and

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women of the Justice Department engaged in
what has become the largest investigation in our

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history. In November last I appointed
Jack Smith, a special counsel to take

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on the ongoing investigation in order to
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Mister Smith and his team of experience, principal career agents and prosecutors have

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followed the facts and the law wherever
Bay lead. Any questions about this matter

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will have to be answered by the
filings made to the corner. And despite

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his best efforts, even with that
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as a political hit job. That
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running with right now. They made
it impossible to hold the former president accountable

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based on his actions alone. Right
when you can politicize anything and everything,

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you really do undermine our ability to
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A matter of fact, there's a
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really kind of solidifies it, even
crystallizes it even more, the fact that

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the Republican Party they're nothing more than
obstructionists. And in this very specific and

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very important issue, the Republican Party, Conservatives, Fox News, all of

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them, they they're making it impossible
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political violence. You know, calls
for civil war over this have been you

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know, spreading all across the internet
lies about the indictment. There's two parts

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to the indictment. There's the charges
that are levied, the actual crimes,

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and then there is a bit of
commentary on the lying, the penchant for

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lying that Donald Trump has. There's
even some there in terms of him not

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being willing Donald Trump as president not
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There's even information that is coming out
about one of the few people on

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his team that was telling him the
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Right, Jason Miller was one of
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was telling him the truth that there
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That's because the president of the United
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Now, because that commentary is in
the indictment, that has given Fox

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News what they need to lie about
this, because Conservatives refuse to allow this

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process to happen, even with independent
counsel. It doesn't matter that Jack Smith

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is independent, is an independent council. The Republican Party was always going to

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label this as a political witch hunt
Jack Smith. The whole framework of a

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special counsel is the independent nature that
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Once they are created. Yes,
they are created by the Jack Smith

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was hired by the Department of Justice, but they have autonomy to operate and

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follow the facts no matter where they
lead. And in this case, the

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facts show that Donald Trump needed to
be indicted. But that has not stopped

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the Conservatives from doing the exact same
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and that is undermining our democracy on
behalf of Donald Trump. I want you

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to listen to this clip from Fox
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just outright lied. I mean they
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the commentary. Now you should read
the First of all, let me say

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this, If you have the time, go and read the indictment. You'll

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see what I'm saying in terms of
how it is divided up between the actual

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case against Donald Trump and then some
supporting commentary if you would, about the

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fact that Donald Trump lied, about
the fact that he will not listen to

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counsel. Listen to this clip and
listen to what Fox News chooses to focus

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on, not the substance, not
the actual crimes that are outlined and detailed

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in the indictment. But this tell
you I am really quite astonished by much

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of this indictment so far. It
regurgitates a lot of the allegations against Trump,

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and there is room for criticism in
terms of the claims being made about

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stolen elections, but it's criminalizing all
of that. You know. It states

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in the indictment the president spent months
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Really is that a criminal issue?
I mean, is that the basis

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of this conspiracy? It seems to
me rather loose at the joints. Listen,

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look out, I mean, did
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their audience, to make their audience. The Fox News listeners believe that this

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indictment is wholly frivolous. It's by
focusing on the parts of the indictment that

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discuss the lies. Now. That
was Jonathan I believe his last name is

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Turley. He was on Fox News. He's focusing on the lies. Now.

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He is contending that lies should not
be criminal criminalized. There should not

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be an indictment brought against the president
because of lies. Here's the thing.

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The indictment isn't criminalizing or indicting him
because of his lies. The lies were

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a precursor to the violence of January
six. It's the reason so many people

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bough into it. That's the way
he mobilized. So it wasn't the lies

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that were criminal, it was the
fact that they had criminal activity that took

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place as a result of the lies. Therefore, it's necessary for Jack Smith

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to outline the nature and the scope
of those lies. But that has become

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the very basis that the Republican Party
and Fox News is is using to gas

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like America into further violence, by
the way, into further destabilizing of our

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democracy. Right. They're using the
fact that Jack Smith outlined a set of

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consistent and persistent lies by Donald Trump
as the foundation for the criminal activity that

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took place on January six for which
he is being indicted. Fox News is

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using that to say, oh,
look, they're trying to they're trying to

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criminalize his lies. And sure,
sure we can have critique about his lying,

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but should we criminalize it? Listen
to it one more time to tell

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you, I am really quite astonished
by much of this indictment so far.

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It regurgitates a lot of the allegations
against Trump, and there is room for

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criticism in terms of the claims being
made about stolen elections. But it's criminalizing

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all of that, you know.
It states in the indictment the president spent

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months spreading false rumors and allegations of
election irregularities. Really is that a criminal

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issue? I mean, is that
the basis of this conspiracy? No,

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it's not. It is rather the
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this is the gaslighting. This is
such a masterful example of how we can

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be gas lit as a nation right
into the destruction of democracy. Because now

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this has become one of the talking
points that's the most important one to me,

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because it is a level of gaslighting
that is so insidious, but it

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is it's perfectly tuned to get into
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now, instead of reading the indictment
for themselves for themselves and then looking at

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the actual nature of the crimes,
right, the four counts that are in

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the indictment that are outlined clearly,
instead of doing that, they are now

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going to go with a talking point
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oh, they're trying to indict him
for lying about the election. No they're

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not. And when that doesn't work, of course, when when all us

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fails. You can't gaslight some you
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Then you just go right to the
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They don't want to talk about anything
else but Hunter Biden. Isn't it

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curious that the timing always happens to
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news about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, then they throw an indictment. Number

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four is coming. It, it's
gonna come. It's gonna come the next

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time we have Hunter Biden news.
That's what it's gonna come out of Georgia.

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Yes, because they need you to
believe that there is such a massive

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conspiracy against Donald Trump, or rather, let me correct that that there's such

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a massive conspiracy to protect Hunter Biden
that the Department of Justice would concoct these

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these charges against Donald Trump and then
subsequently time the release of the indictment to

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just do nothing more than distract from
the news cycle about Hunter Biden. You

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know, this is the level that
you have to go to when your entire

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worldview and your framework, your policies, they're they're full of crap right there.

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They lack substance, they lack any
veracity, and the only thing they

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have left. It's lies, lies
and propaganda, gaslighting, and they're so

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good at it and their followers wanted. So It's it's not as though Fox

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News or any other media outlet that's
lying this morning about the indictments. It's

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not as though they're going to be
held accountable. In fact, if Fox

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News doesn't for these lies, then
Fox News viewers are just going to turn

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into Newsmax. Hope we'll be right
back. Welcome back to The Benjamin Dixon

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Show. Visit us online at the
Benjamin Dixon Show dot com. Yep,

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welcome back, Welcome back. Rhonda
Santis, who fancies himself to be the

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next president of the United States,
had this to say about the indictment that

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he hasn't read yet. He said, quote on Twitter, he said,

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as president, I will end the
weaponization of government, replace the FBI director,

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and ensure a single standard of justice
for all Americans. While I've seen

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reports, I have not read the
indictment. I do, though, believe

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we need to enact reform so that
Americans have the right to remove cases from

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Washington, d C. To their
home districts. Wow, really, guy,

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Washington, d C. Is a
swamp and it is unfair to have

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to stand trial before a jury.
That is reflective of the swamp mentality.

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One of the reasons our country is
in decline as a politicization of the rule

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of law. No more excuses.
I will end the weaponization of the federal

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government. You see where this is
going, right. One of the number

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one goals of the modern Republican Party
is to destroy the Department of Justice,

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to completely undo and redo the FBI. I'm sure they're going after the ATF

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as well, because they have seen
the FBI be used to hold them accountable.

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And what do they call it when
you hold them accountable? They call

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it the weaponization of the government,
the weaponization of the DOJ, the weaponization

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of the FBI. And so Rhonda
Santist is weighing in this is one of

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the few places where he can get
a high five from Donald Trump supporters who

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hate his guts. But so long
as he's standing up and supporting Donald Trump,

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saying all the talking points that conservatives
want to hear. We're going to

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destroy the FBI, We're gonna stop
the weaponization of the government against Donald Trump.

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All that means is that they are
intending of using the very next opportunity

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that they are in power to completely
restructure the federal government, the Department of

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Justice to never question right wing conservatives. That's what they mean. They believe

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that this system that did everything it
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believe that it's weaponized against Donald Trump. And so what does that give them

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the ability to do well? I
always reference critical mass, which is just

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a working definition that I've come up
with for this show. What they intend

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to do is convince enough people to
elect them into power so that they can

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go in there and actually destroy the
DOJ, to reconstitute it, to restructure

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it with a different mandate. And
what do you think that mandate is going

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to look like? Do you think
the new mandate that Rhonda Santist is going

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to bring to the FBI is going
to be one where there's equal justice for

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all? Or will he continue this
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It is the bedrock of the modern
conservative movement. They want to continue to

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be the most powerful people in this
country. But anytime they are loosely held

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accountable, they want to cry victimization. They want to feign oppression, as

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if the FBI is not a tool
for white supremacy. I mean, let's

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just cut to the core of this. The FBI historically hasn't done nothing but

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serve white male Christian power from its
beginnings. But now that one of their

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white male Christian friends has become so
criminal that the empire can ignore it,

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now all of a sudden, they
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forward, going from this date,
it is worrisome about what's going to happen

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in our future. But I always
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just want to mention. It's important
that we put a full faith in hope

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in God and not anything that we
see in the headlines, and not anything

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that we see happening in the news. Our real hope needs to be in

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God. And Jesus Christ is my
savior, and I know he's yours as

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well. And God has plans much
bigger than this. Oh, oh,

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God definitely has plans. Jesus Christ
is also my savior. I spoke with

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him this morning, and Marjorie,
you're going to hell. I'm joking.

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I did speak with him this morning, but God didn't tell me that Marjorie

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was going to hell. He's telling
me that they have brought hell with them

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if I can just you know,
just be ridiculous. Here she was ridiculous

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in her clips, so let me
be ridiculous. You know, she's praying

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to God. Now. It's so
funny, how you know, Well one

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Marjorie Taylor Green is probably under investigation
herself. So when they get in this

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much trouble, they try to default
back to, Oh, I trust you

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God, let's pray. Let's put
our trust in our Lord and Savior,

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Jesus Christ, and listen, every
day, I don't care what these I

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have to give this disclaimer because I'm
mocking them, but I'm mocking them as

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a Christian, I pray every day. I've got to put my trust in

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God just to deal with a lot
of the stuff that I've got to deal

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with. And you put your trust
in whatever you put your trust in.

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But it's just hilarious that when they
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own actions, all of a sudden, they go back to Jesus, like,

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sweet baby Jesus, you know,
eight pounds twelve ounces, Jesus,

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could you please get me out of
this. No, you should never have

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gotten yourself in this in the first
place. Marjorie Taylor Green Donald Trump,

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if he was a good, god
fearing Christian that he pretends to be,

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then perhaps he would not have allowed
his ego to forward all of them lies

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that were necessary to convince thousands of
Americans to come to Washington, d C.

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On January six and try to overthrow
the government. Right so they can

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miss me with all these appeals to
Oh Jesus, please help us, They're

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gonna be a lot of preachers on
Sunday white evangelicals preaching on Sunday about you

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know, God's got a plan and
God is not pleased. No, you

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know, Okay, no, God
is not pleased with America. But not

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for the reasons you think. You
know what, what did my guy Jeremiah

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Rights say. There's a whole long
list of reasons for God to be displeased

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with America. God damn America.
But it's not the reasons that they are

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crying about. There. They are
crying about being held account They cannot,

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for the life of them, believe
that the American government would actually hold a

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rich white conservative man accountable for anything, Because if they would hold a rich

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white conservative man accountable for something,
then certainly they'll hold someone like Marjorie Taylor

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Green accountable, and she knows that
that's why she's praying to God, God,

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please sweet baby Jesus, seven pounds
twelve ounces, wrapped up in the

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swaddling clothes. I guess maybe you
haven't seen Telegdaga nights, but I digress.

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