WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.719 What taste? Welcome and welcome, what good question? A podcast with many 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:09.480 questions and many answers. Luis my Salgado and his guests share questions and answers 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.880 about life, love, passion and the challenges of living a passionate life. 4 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:18.960 What a good question a padques to learn that life can live better once again. 5 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:25.039 Welcome all with you and to introduce our guests we leave you with Luis 6 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:28.399 miss Algado Hello how do you do, how do you like it? I 7 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:32.600 ' m Luis Miguel Salgado, welcome, good morning, good afternoon, good 8 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:36.880 night wherever you are. I am Luis Miguel Salgado, This is so good 9 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:42.359 And in this chapter I have a gentleman who will truly enjoy his presence a 10 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:49.359 person prepared, intelligent, creative, but also with a rather interesting and important 11 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.320 social approach. This is Eduardo Guillén, my dear, Eduardo, welcome, 12 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:57.280 how you are, friend, for nothing. Thank you so much for the 13 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.000 introduction. I don' t deserve it, but, well, thank you 14 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.280 for the invitation. Well, nothing. The truth is, a fair conversation 15 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.959 with you. We' ve been going around in networks for some time now 16 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.120 and very interesting your content, very interesting interviews And, well, out there 17 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:17.400 with some friends in common that I' ve had the opportunity to listen to 18 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.799 and I thank you for this space. True truth, a lot of pleasure. 19 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:25.599 Let me, please, present to you as you deserve Luis Eduardo Guillén 20 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:30.519 Romero. He holds a degree in visual arts, specializing in plastic arts from 21 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:37.680 the Universidad Autónoma de Querétaro, where he also studied master' s degree in 22 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:42.359 interdisciplinary studies in art and humanities. Fellow in two thousand and eight of the 23 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:47.840 master' s degree in Grática at the International Printing Centre in Betanzos, Province 24 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:52.760 of Galicia, Spain. In his module of gilography, he has thirty years 25 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.640 of experience in different fields of the arts, such as graphic design, engraving, 26 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:04.680 in the plastic arts. Participated in many exhibitions believe me has participated in 27 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:09.000 collective and individual exhibitions, among which stand out those made in spaces such as 28 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:15.280 the gallery of the SIEC Foundation in Bettansus in Spain, the Galería Libertad de 29 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.520 Querétaro and the Museo de Arte de Querétaro, which, by the way, 30 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.479 if you go to Querétaro, you have to visit. It' s a 31 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:30.199 truly committed stop. It is a mandatory stop, required to be able to 32 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:36.039 learn a little more about the art of many representatives. Eduardo Guillén has held 33 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:40.080 different positions in the municipal government of San Juan del Río in Querétaro since the 34 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:46.240 year two thousand, as he has been Head of Cultural Organization, Director of 35 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:51.439 Culture and Tourism, head of the Municipal Institute of Culture, Tourism and Youth 36 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.560 and since January of the two thousand twenty- two he serves as Director of 37 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:59.680 Tourism. Since the two thousand nineteen he has held the position of Technical Secretary 38 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:05.560 of Sons juando el Río before the National Association of Mexican World Heritage Cities, 39 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:07.680 and the truth is that it is a pleasure and a privilege. As I 40 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.400 say to all of you, this practice is going to get very interesting. 41 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.759 We will talk about art of culture and we will also, of course, 42 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:22.639 talk about how to approach this effort at the local, state and, of 43 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:23.639 course, federal levels, and a lot of things. If it' s 44 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:29.560 okay with you, let' s start hi how Miguel Salgado soys and I 45 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.840 understand to believe, grow, learn, live, be a rribre, we 46 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.439 have to ask ourselves constantly. Put on the how and when there is for 47 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:39.960 what and even the ICN I love to ask questions. He has become a 48 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:45.280 fortress and an opportunity to live, literally, in a blessing. Asking the 49 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:50.240 questions at the right time is an art to listen to the answers and their 50 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.719 intention gives you wisdom if you apply the answer. I believe that the solution 51 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.479 of the problems comes in the quality of the question. This space is based 52 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.120 on what has been lived by N s s N. Built and built again. 53 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:06.599 It goes with my guests interesting people, intelligent and, moreover, admirable 54 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:12.960 in all aspects. It goes like a professional character challenge, it goes like 55 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.560 a whim and a bust of life, but it also goes to positively impact 56 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:20.759 those who listen to it and apply this space, your space, it goes 57 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:25.600 to accompany us and to be part of this adventure to flame of interesting questions, 58 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.240 inverted, disruptive, predictable, always determinable, intelligent, casual and timely. 59 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.439 Welcome. This is a good question, I' m Luis Miguel Salgado. 60 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:38.680 What, if it' s okay with you, we start, because 61 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.519 he' s with us here. What a good question, Eduardo Guillén. 62 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:45.040 For me it is a pleasure, a privilege and I would love to ask 63 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.240 you to start, my dear, Eduardo, this is a question that I 64 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:54.040 ask all my guests before starting with a talk with you about many things, 65 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:58.079 I would be interested to know who Eduardo Guillén is. Far from graduates, 66 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:02.399 masters, trips, medals, please don' t tell us who Eduardo Guido 67 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:08.759 is. Okay. It is a very simple question, but at the same 68 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:14.160 time difficult to answer, especially as you ask it. Not me, because 69 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:20.560 I do consider myself a person who likes to be creative, I like to 70 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:28.560 do things, I like that they have an impact on society that, because 71 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:32.399 the ideas that one can suddenly accommodate in his mind, because they do not 72 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:38.040 stay there and have an achievement. I think it' s the main thing. 73 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.160 Hence my interest in studying a career that has to do with art and 74 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:48.279 after also entering the public service I take an interest in politics and in doing 75 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:53.959 things to, then, make some changes, especially that I think that that 76 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.920 was what brought me closer to politics definitely tell us, please, where that 77 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:05.040 creativity comes from. It' s always been creative, from Chavito or suddenly 78 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:12.040 one day you dropped an apple, as they tell us about Newton and that 79 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.199 you discovered. It didn' t happen like that or how it worked. 80 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.839 The next sticky question with this is why you' re not an astronaut or 81 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:25.120 marine chemist or what I know don' t notice you are. There' 82 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:29.600 s this cliché. I think so. Since childhood there, in elementary school 83 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:34.800 I loved drawing and I loved drawing too, because I understood a lot of 84 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:40.439 what has happened in the world of history, science and everything. I believe 85 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:46.199 that always these aspects that, as I say to you, have changed the 86 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:51.959 world, were always of my interest in understanding things, how they work, 87 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:58.079 and so on. And yes, I could definitely have been some other things, 88 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:03.240 some engineer, an industrial designer or something, but always the part of 89 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:12.560 being able to admire nature and look, so things also made by man, 90 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:19.839 led me to lean on this side of art. I, at some point, 91 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:28.040 before discovering these artistic disciplines, was interested in being an architect. Then 92 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.959 the graphic design came out and, at the end of the day, I 93 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:34.040 studied in a career that I had to see a little bit, both with 94 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:38.800 graphic design and with the plastic arts. And well, already with a terminal 95 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:44.720 line in plastic arts. Listen to this subject of the plastic arts, the 96 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:49.879 visual arts. Design you, I mean, designers, artists, see things 97 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:58.720 that we don' t see, you see things that suddenly a real tree, 98 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:05.959 a landscape, something that you perceive differently. It is a gift my 99 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:11.079 dear, eduardo, it is a gift or it is perhaps those people we 100 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.839 would like at some point. I' ll tell you one thing. They 101 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.079 give me a psychometric exam and they put me on. Draw the tree. 102 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.519 You know, I don' t draw a tree, I draw a man. 103 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.160 No, man. It' s the hardest test I can get. 104 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.839 I know they value other things, but you don' t know what a 105 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.480 terrible thing is really how you do it, if that' s a gift 106 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.679 or, you' re also getting ready to see life differently, because yes, 107 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:43.759 I think everyone is going to develop their faculties and their competencies. We 108 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.519 definitely have different personalities sometimes that make us pay attention to different things. I 109 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:54.480 have therefore been able to teach different subjects of drawing, illustration, etcetera. 110 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.360 And because it has touched me now yes, it works with students who already 111 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.399 bring experience or already have some taste and also with some other students, some 112 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.240 that from scratch, because you have to start as to orient them and to 113 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.120 sensitize them. And I have always said that, precisely as you mentioned it, 114 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.879 the subject is in observation and where you focus your attention and be able 115 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:24.720 to pay attention to certain interesting details on how things work, how light is 116 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:30.720 projected, and so on. No, and since you understand how things are, 117 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:37.840 then suddenly you can think about what they might be like if other factors 118 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.720 were involved. And then that' s where a little bit comes in, 119 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.000 the factor of creativity, which, well, it' s also important for 120 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.519 this world, because without creativity, there would be no inventions, there would 121 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.600 be no advances, there wouldn' t be many things that, then, 122 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.159 have made us what we are now, for better or for worse. I 123 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.720 think we can definitely still improve a lot, because there are things that we 124 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.960 may have done as well, but that we have also had the experiences sometimes 125 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:13.440 so that we realize what we have to improve when I talk to plastic artists 126 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:20.519 like you, with this ability to interpret the world differently, notice that it 127 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.080 is a challenge for me, because, obviously, you do not just have 128 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.600 to prepare, you do not just have to study, you do not just 129 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:35.840 have to be experimenting too. But one very important feature is that you are 130 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:41.799 brave, courageous in what sense, in presenting ideas creatively, but also even 131 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:52.200 brave to have a theme. They call it human resources, a good endurance 132 00:10:52.240 --> 00:11:00.000 to frustration, to endure those criticisms and those suddenly they tell you. Oh 133 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:05.360 how you did it to handle criticism, because then positive criticism and then negative 134 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:11.600 criticism. So we are in a very complicated time, where everyone criticizes you. 135 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:15.159 If you applaud because you applaud, and don' t applaud because you 136 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:20.320 don' t applaud, if you expose, because you expose, and how 137 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.080 you do it to handle frustration and where you get this courage to say this 138 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.159 is what I believe. And there you go, gentlemen, I don' 139 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:33.960 t know if you do. I think this thing that you mention many artists 140 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:41.639 live it. But I also think that somehow, sometimes because we don' 141 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:46.159 t realize, we don' t realize we' re so stubborn about what 142 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.519 we' re doing that sometimes we don' t understand it that way, 143 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.679 just because we try to be focused on achieving what we want to project. 144 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.879 And, at the end of the day, I think that, because all 145 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:07.759 people, not just artists, to grow and to base, because we have 146 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.039 to get out of the comfort zone It' s not what it is. 147 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.159 Sometimes it' s very difficult, because if we don' t act on 148 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.919 what we have, as I said earlier, that we have in mind, 149 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:26.320 we can' t translate it into reality. Then there may be many people 150 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:33.440 in this life who could have transformed the world and who could have had characteristics 151 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:39.360 of doing artists and being many things, but sometimes all those ideas are left 152 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.600 in the head. Not then, then, yes, we have to be 153 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.639 uncomfortable, sometimes we have to be disciplined, we have to carry things. 154 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.399 Now you have to deal with reality. And so sometimes that implies, because 155 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:58.840 to let the criticisms pass you and that you pass those kinds of questions and 156 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:03.840 and focus rather on what you want to achieve and that you also do not 157 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:09.440 stay in a single objective, that you also have the ability to be able 158 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.960 to sometimes move a little, because, because sometimes what we could have as 159 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:18.639 a primordial idea, because it can change over time, and we are not 160 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.440 always right from the beginning, because we have to be so with that ability 161 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:30.919 to be flexible and to adapt, let' s say you' re not 162 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.679 also perfectionist. You consider yourself a perfectionist, because I imagine that you already 163 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.440 finish a play, you present it as I do. Well, at least. 164 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.759 I think if I were to be one day, I would be this 165 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.519 guy and I think you guys, sort of, go around and say, 166 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:50.720 yeah, but I need to, no, and I' m done with 167 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.279 the show, you take her home or whatever you say you see, I 168 00:13:54.320 --> 00:14:00.120 ' m going to do and it' s a constant change and change if 169 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:01.840 you' re a profectist or you say I' m done. That' 170 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.120 s it. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have that spirit 171 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:13.080 of saying good sometimes. This may have been yes or I would like to 172 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:20.240 intervene or modify it, but I think also in a very practical sense, 173 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.919 it is best to leave that and continue and do something else again. Let 174 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:31.519 ' s say that we also need to be able to leave things behind and 175 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:37.320 not continue. So yes, I like to bring things to the point that 176 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:43.679 they satisfied me, but I also don' t like to stick so much 177 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.240 into what might have been no. I think life teaches us that you can 178 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.279 ' t stay in the past and also you can' t be obsessed with 179 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:54.000 the future, but you have to be now. Yes, always the patient 180 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:58.360 time. Talk to a Formula One pilot, talk to a cardiologist, talk 181 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:03.840 to a writer, talk to a politician, talk to a politician, talk 182 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.840 about a formula, one of cardiology in his branch, because it is obviously 183 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:15.639 exciting. I think going with you to a museum can learn a lot not 184 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.720 how critical and how strong you are here among us, not from the art 185 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:24.000 of others, because suddenly you vote with respect. No. I think we 186 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.559 can nail them, you and I, what art is and what it is 187 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:30.559 and what it is and what it isn' t. There are some awful 188 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.679 exposures, I mean, there are some things that are so real. The 189 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:39.360 other day I saw a banana, a banana, a fruit, a plan 190 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.320 not. Okay. I did, I saw a banana there on a plate 191 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:48.320 cost eighteen thousand dollars and then it was. This is one for me, 192 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:54.320 it was a mockery of people' s intelligence. You' re not rude 193 00:15:54.360 --> 00:16:00.159 to the art of others Look what happens is that being critical or art involves 194 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:07.840 a lot of things. There is no other work that also speaks. Well, 195 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.919 this one you mention is a derivative. There is also one that is 196 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.639 a banana stuck on a wall with a ribbon of those ducts, gafer tape, 197 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:19.279 because there you have those of the gallery, because changing the banana every 198 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:25.679 finished time, so that it will be renewed. No, and, and 199 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.240 well, there have been art critics coming in who came to this exhibition to 200 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:33.759 grab that banana eat. Yes, sometimes the idea of art, because it 201 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:40.360 is like reflecting and giving what to talk about and talk about things that happen 202 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:45.279 at the moment and that are often difficult to understand, because what is that 203 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:53.360 proposal. I wouldn' t tell you that I say in my very particular 204 00:16:53.360 --> 00:17:00.279 point of view, I don' t like to be critical, but to 205 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:04.079 try to understand and sometimes seeing art, because rather, if you don' 206 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:11.559 t connect and don' t move you, because that' s what I 207 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.599 think it is, like saying it as the sadst thing, that art doesn 208 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:15.680 ' t get to connect with you, that it doesn' t get to 209 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:21.920 provoke you. I think that, because when there is something that you enjoy, 210 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:26.039 that moves you or that sometimes makes you react and reflect, because it 211 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.440 is when art is achieving its objective and that the saddest thing told you, 212 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.960 because it would not provoke any reaction that you simply say, because it is 213 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:41.400 beautiful, but it is like a hundred thousand more works, not then clear, 214 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:48.279 obviously, there speaking of museums, because there are works that have this 215 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:59.759 character of being symbolic and important for the history of art and contemplate them and 216 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.039 connect with that reality of a different moment, because it is very interesting. 217 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:10.559 But current art, because it is very difficult to understand in that sense, 218 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:15.440 that anyone can say good, because ok I could come and do these And 219 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.839 why this is worth thousands of dollars, no yes, yes, and because 220 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.759 there will always be that point of discussion of what art really is believe me 221 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:29.920 that today and with so much knowledge and with so many theorists and philosophers of 222 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:36.319 artists and critics, we cannot yet agree on what the act is. And 223 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.160 well, that' s a central part of the discussion. Inevitably, what 224 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:45.519 is an art is being able to talk to you and I' d love 225 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:52.480 to hear from you. Please, what it feels like to exhibit a play 226 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:56.799 of yours. I want you to evoke, please, the memory of the 227 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:03.000 first exhibition you gave in Spain and the first time you received the applause you 228 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.720 said. No, because I imagine the nerve and all that, but go 229 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:14.039 ahead, having worked and having it there with people must be a very interesting 230 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:19.680 rush. Not how you felt, please, how you saw it, for 231 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.680 Mira is not as such, like a play in which you receive the applause 232 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:30.000 of the people. I think it does generate a feeling of satisfaction to say 233 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.799 Look, for here is my work. No yes, and obviously, because 234 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.319 the people who accompany you in a moment. So, it' s people 235 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:42.119 who are close to you who have affection for you, etcetera. And there 236 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:52.240 will always be favorable, not or encouraging comments. But I say, at 237 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:57.640 the end of the day, to expose is not to be exposed to being 238 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:04.599 subject to some having an opinion about the work. And notice that, therefore, 239 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:10.480 not only speaking in the world of art, but also many years of 240 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:15.599 my life because, as you already mentioned, I have dedicated myself to public 241 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:23.440 service and sometimes the works that have given me satisfaction are not only those that 242 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:30.559 come out of my brush or my pencil or my bubias, from my engraving, 243 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.640 etc, the stained glass that I also like to do very much, 244 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:41.720 but those in which you can offer people something that they enjoy in this sense, 245 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.640 because with the activities that being within the culture and tourism here, in 246 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:51.319 my municipality, has touched me, because it has generated ideas in festivals, 247 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:57.480 events and that you can see that there are thousands of people that are enjoying 248 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:06.519 it. I too would compare this with this feeling that you said you were 249 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:11.920 trying to evoke and I think that has sometimes given me more satisfaction. Let 250 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.880 me, let me, as they say in football, make an extreme game 251 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:21.759 change let' s talk about this topic and this interest in working for the 252 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:27.839 government. I understand that it is also a vocation. You do it as 253 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.279 a vocation, you do it with a genuine interest that you are, I 254 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:37.440 think, doing an exceptional San Juan del Río job for those people who do 255 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.720 not know because they listen to us from other countries. It is a town 256 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:48.759 in the state of Querétaro. It is approximately two hours, two and a 257 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:56.160 half hours from Mexico City and is characterized by being a mainly industrial city. 258 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.759 However, today it has opened not only at the state level, but also 259 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:06.880 at the municipal level to receive a lot of tourism and then it is also 260 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:11.559 an obligatory step to know many things. They have a wonderful San Juan del 261 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:17.680 Río story and talking a little bit about art or talking a lot about art, 262 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:22.480 well. They have many, many options to share cultural, religious, 263 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:29.440 historical and good. I love that I can talk to you. First, 264 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:36.279 tell us where this desire arises to serve people through tourism and culture. And, 265 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:41.720 second, you' re doing a very important job, along with all 266 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:44.559 your team and the alliances you' re carrying out. The Birth Museum. 267 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:52.039 I think it should be known to all the citizens of this planet earth. 268 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.599 I think it' s a reference, it' s a jewel that they 269 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:03.839 have there, but they also have these exhibitions that are coming up as they 270 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:08.039 are about wine, beer. Plat us, please, first, where it 271 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:14.319 arises and then, because this chambotota you have. Yeah, well, there 272 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.640 ' s a lot, a lot of things you' re proposing, but, 273 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.680 well, let' s start at the beginning and I can tell you 274 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:27.759 that. From the beginning it was an interest me, as a young plastic 275 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:33.119 artist at that time, because perhaps a little dissatisfied with the things that were 276 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:40.960 done in my municipality, being a relatively small municipality. Good things were done. 277 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:45.920 There had been some questions that I think have been good for the municipality, 278 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:51.519 but because always looking for more and looking for it to open up as 279 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:57.839 at the time, because to new expressions, to remove a little that part 280 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.960 so traditional not and that, because there was more openness. I, at 281 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:08.640 the time, did a project to be able to do things from the government 282 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:18.359 and, fortunately, at that time there was the opportunity to work and propose 283 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.880 things that, therefore, have been achieved, that have had impacts. And 284 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:29.960 you can say that, for example, in two thousand seven I had to 285 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.279 propose the creation of a festival, because the only thing, the only strong 286 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:36.400 event here, in San Juan de Rio, at a cultural level, because 287 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.039 it was the Fair of San Juan del Río, It was once a year. 288 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:42.519 Then, at that time, because new ideas had to be generated and 289 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:48.720 I proposed a festival with the purpose of making known the Museum of Death that 290 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.319 existed here in San Juan de Rio. Now the name has been changed from 291 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:57.680 a new museography that is being designed. But, well, this Day of 292 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:00.920 the Dead festival came up. And now, seventeen years later, that festival 293 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.640 is still there and it is something important for our cities, one of the 294 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:12.160 main references in the cultural and tourist part. That is where we have in 295 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:21.079 this event a contest that is the contest of plañideras and that at the time 296 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:22.880 was another person to whom he proposed it, but that it has been possible 297 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:27.680 to give constitution and, as I have said, in many places there is 298 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:33.680 nothing that has been done in San Juan del Río that has had as much 299 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.400 impact or as much interest at the national, international level as is this topic 300 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.200 of the contest of planideras. So much so that a year ago the BBC 301 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:47.000 de Londos was documenting, reports have been published in the New York Times, 302 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:51.079 in different newspapers in Spain, Argentina, etcetera, and, obviously, throughout 303 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:59.519 Mexico. So that interest precisely in doing new things for culture and, of 304 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:03.920 course, now also with the focus of tourism, which for me is a 305 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:10.400 bit the same culture, because it is trying to develop and to make known 306 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:17.000 all the historical artistic richness that we have, and tourism is responsible precisely for 307 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:22.160 spreading it, to get people interested in them and to come to see it 308 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:26.519 and that, because that also generates an economic benefit for our city. So, 309 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:36.960 let' s say that that was the original interest that made me approach 310 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:42.519 this part, which is therefore to implement some plans, some strategies in public 311 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:48.440 policy and all these issues. But that, at the end of the day, 312 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:53.079 it' s a super noble area, it' s very nice and 313 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:57.359 the truth is that I can tell you that I really enjoy a job, 314 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:04.359 I really think it' s also a titanic job that you' re doing 315 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.920 and very praiseworthy, because it was necessary. It was necessary that not only 316 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:12.640 the people of San Juan know new proposals, but that the people around San 317 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:18.160 Juan del Río is located in a strategic place for the exit Texicaapan to the 318 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.920 rock of Bernal is not very, very close. Obviously, I want to. 319 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:26.799 So I think it' s a Geographically, it' s a, 320 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:33.599 it' s an interesting industrially good proposal that you can say the big industries 321 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.240 have plants there and so on. And what is important is that also this 322 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:41.359 proposal of Querétaro, which has a lot to give San Juan del Río, 323 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:48.519 will do and is already the governor. We' ve heard it on several 324 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.079 occasions where you' re going to inject economy, but you' re going 325 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.119 to inject a different vision as well, and that, that' s to 326 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.880 be appreciated. Now I' d love all the people because, obviously, 327 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.799 I know you' re preparing things there. I was told by a little 328 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.400 bird that you' re making interesting things out there. I would like to 329 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:11.880 know what you can advance us now in advance so that people will not only 330 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:17.200 pre- empt the subject of the days, their calendar, their agenda. 331 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:21.880 What' s going on, my dear Edward, well, there' s 332 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:26.319 a lot coming. Fate you talking a little bit and taking back everything you 333 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:30.000 just mentioned. That is, Juan de Río, because we consider it as 334 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.920 the gateway to the Bajío. It' s this connection point where a lot 335 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:41.599 of things move from here. It is a city with four hundred eighty- 336 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:47.880 two years of history, founded a month and a day before I look at 337 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.599 Santiago de Querétaro Es. We share much of our origin. However, because 338 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:59.920 we had different developments now, but in the end it costs is the historical 339 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.599 part. There is and there is this theme of the Route of cheese wine, 340 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:10.599 which precisely begins in San Juan del Río and which, precisely, connecting 341 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:15.960 it with your question, we have just opened a space that is the house 342 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.039 of cheese and wine and in what we propose as the beginning of the route 343 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:26.400 precisely of this product that has been so successful and that generates more than a 344 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.559 million visits a year here to Querétaro, which generates an interesting economic spill, 345 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.799 that has made a change in the tourist vision of the south of Querétaro. 346 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:40.519 Especially then, because that is one of the aspects that we are going to 347 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.279 be working hard to make known this space, in generating activities, tastings, 348 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.880 varieties, that scenes, etc, that people can know what are Queretan wines, 349 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:55.039 Queretan cheeses and also craft beer, that we are including in this space, 350 00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.559 because in San Juan de Rio we have one of the biggest producers of 351 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:07.759 craft beer. Then it is very much aligned to this theme, to promote 352 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:15.200 gastronomy, wines, cheeses and craft beer, precisely also in tune. With 353 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:22.400 this we do a festival that we are going to hold in the last weeks 354 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.599 of March, which is the first weekend of the Easter holidays. We do 355 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:36.119 the Lower Billfest, which is a brewing festival that this year is also going 356 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:40.960 to have a lot of focus on what barbecues are. And all this so 357 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.559 that the people who come, because they can enjoy it in the gastronomic question, 358 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.599 in the question of tasting the craft beer, and also, of course, 359 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:53.400 because it is accompanied by a very interesting artistic program. So, there 360 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:57.319 ' s one of the main events we have. The bajio grifest at the 361 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.720 end of the barzo, the first end of paths of the Easter holidays and 362 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.799 good because the day I don' t know when my beloved Luis Mi comes 363 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:11.839 to the interview, but this Friday 26th of January the national contest and tamales 364 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.440 and atole x to fame in the cardinal of the family from the four of 365 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.720 the TAA is held. And the truth is that it is a delight to 366 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.599 taste all varieties of salty tamales, sweets and currents. So it' s 367 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.920 just that, if you have a chance to take a walk, I' 368 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.920 m gonna be happy to say hello here, because you' re gonna enjoy 369 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.599 it. Yeah. Some friends in common have already confirmed their attendance. So, 370 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.680 they' re gonna have a great time. Hey, I love it, 371 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.240 I love this invitation. I thank you so much. I' d 372 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.319 be happy my nutrolo that you' re gonna hang me on, but you 373 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.000 know you don' t hear, but I think it' s really worth 374 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:52.759 all the effort you' re making along with your team. Let me first 375 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:59.200 congratulate all the people. Please reserve this date because, while it is true 376 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:04.759 that this basso fest is going to get very good, because you are handmade 377 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:10.000 beers check. There are a number of stunning beers in keretaro and then one 378 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:20.119 is going to try different beers. Then there is roasting or preparing different cuts 379 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.640 of meat. It' s a family event. There will surely be a 380 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.240 stage where groups will come, to sing, to play, to live together. 381 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.599 It' s a family event, but also with the theme of having 382 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:38.000 a really good time. I want to tell you that we are living a 383 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.680 time of hyperconnectivity with the cell phone. Well these activities and believe me that 384 00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.359 you go to San Juan del Río, to know only, to know the 385 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.759 center, to know the museums, to know that you are going to take 386 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:54.200 a very pleasant experience. The people are very kind and above all, the 387 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.839 best of all, they eat very rich also some ice creams to Enson Juan 388 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.240 that for to tell you in their cheeks are not free and my dear Eduardo 389 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:07.079 does not hear. I want you to tell us. Please, Evidently, 390 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:14.759 there is some place or where we can see more about the festival for the 391 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.079 ticket theme and others already have some particular place or through your instagram how we 392 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:24.559 contact you. Yes, of course, the festival is a free event or 393 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:30.519 what is invited, because it is that people make the consumption. The truth 394 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.920 is that, as you said, it is a family event, Although there 395 00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.480 is the theme of craft beer, it is, the truth, everything very 396 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:45.079 well raised for people to enjoy. There is no excess consumption and the base 397 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.920 will have a great time. We have a specific page on both Instagram and 398 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.279 Facebook of Bajío Bill Fest. This is how you can find it and also, 399 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:59.480 of course, on the social tourism networks of San Juan de Rio, 400 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:05.759 which are, because in that way, both on Instagram and on Facebook and 401 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.000 in Tiktok we are like tourism San Juan del Río, Tourism s JR. 402 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:13.119 In the case of Tiktok' s specific, then they' ll be able 403 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.079 to find all the information there. Right now. We are precisely in what 404 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.320 is the commercialization of the spaces. If someone is also interested in bringing their 405 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.920 burgers to the grill, to their ribs or anything else, in addition to 406 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.480 the Arsonal Cherries, of course, they are in time to take shots in 407 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.039 contact with a man and it is a jewel because one can eat ribs, 408 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.760 cuts hamburgers. Then I think I think it' s also important because of 409 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.559 the number of people going, because this would be worth it. There you 410 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.639 can make a good deal. Hey, my dear Eduardo, let' s 411 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.880 talk now about certain things that interest us in your way of thinking. Let 412 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.960 ' s play with the imaginary. Many times we think I don' t 413 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.960 know if it' s happened to you, but at least to me, 414 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.039 sometimes you' re thinking pure nonsense. Not all of a sudden we think 415 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:00.840 for the wrong, and we' re out there slamming. Well, let 416 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.519 ' s play with the imaginary. And I' d love to ask you 417 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:10.239 this. Imagine you got a chance to win the lottery. But a brutal 418 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:17.239 amount of eduardo money, brutal. I' m talking about four hundred billion 419 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:24.280 dollars. You know$ 400 billion is a brutal amount. What would you 420 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.840 do with that money? No, it' s just that look. The 421 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:37.760 truth is that with such a figure, obviously, one cannot be selfish not 422 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:45.400 to think that you would have the ability to move it to a particular benefit 423 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:52.880 and enjoyment, no doubt would seek in what way to benefit the greatest number 424 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:58.440 of people at this time. That way, I can' t tell you 425 00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:05.599 in what way. But there are certainly many people who need, not money 426 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.000 properly, but who need food, who need clothing, who need culture, 427 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:17.239 who need many things. I think I would certainly try to move it as 428 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:24.639 intelligently as possible to the greatest possible benefit, also to the greatest number of 429 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:35.920 people. I think with such an unaffordable amount of money, that' s 430 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:42.400 not something you can enjoy in such a selfish way. No, I think 431 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:47.920 that a tiny fraction of it, which is enough for one to cover one 432 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.679 ' s needs and because not having to rush in life, is what I 433 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:58.400 wanted to ask you is to hire some financial advisor. You' d buy 434 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.199 yourself, I don' t know a last model ferrary to walk in San 435 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.960 Juan del Río. I don' t think they were. It' s 436 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:08.159 too fast. No, but this one does, yeah, you' d 437 00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:14.039 be the thing about walking around in yachts and so on, because that' 438 00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.480 s where you' re going where you' re not. It' s 439 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:24.440 not that good. You pose many things that have to do with, that 440 00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.639 is, yes, a yacht I don' t know would enjoy here in 441 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.679 San Juan de Rio, you would really tempt that you would live somewhere else 442 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:37.679 and I don' t know if it was specifically about that. I don 443 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.760 ' t think so, because I' m here like this. This does 444 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.880 not mean that I do not aspire to suddenly have fun or enjoy some other 445 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.039 places that too, because I have also had this opportunity to know many places 446 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.599 and that, then, also helps you to have a different vision. I 447 00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:02.039 would try because I do not know how to deny any benefit to the people, 448 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:06.599 because of the place where I live and perhaps because I know some other 449 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:12.119 places, I would not hire a financial adviser, but, perhaps. Some 450 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:20.000 counselors who could tell me in what way it would be the most intelligent and 451 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:25.920 most generous way, somehow we could say it, without it also sound like 452 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.519 you give yourself chest blows that yes, yes, yes, the best person 453 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:36.280 not, but being a quantity. So, I think with a lot less 454 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:44.760 I would tell you it would be a very comfortable place and be able to 455 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:49.000 start thinking about other people remember that here that good question, there are no 456 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.920 good or bad answers. Then we want to, at the end of the 457 00:38:53.039 --> 00:39:00.199 road play with this imagination. I want to ask you what would you rather 458 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:06.000 never close a door or never be able to open a door? Tell me 459 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.960 again, why can' t I ever close a door? Or never be 460 00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:16.079 able to open a door? No, because I can' t, I 461 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:22.360 ' d rather never close a door? Okay, tell me, I can 462 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.480 ' t open any doors, because then there' s no movement, there 463 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:30.320 ' s no growth. Sure, totally agree with you, hear what you 464 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:37.920 ' d rather look at the search history, the Internet, your parents' 465 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:46.079 or your partner' s I don' t know about this one. I 466 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:51.599 think I' m very respectful of people' s privacy. And OK, 467 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.559 like saying, don' t look for something, because maybe you don' 468 00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:58.320 t want to find it. No and I don' t know in any 469 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:05.239 case, I preferred my parents', OK, great, you' d 470 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:12.639 rather erase your own memories or erase the memories someone has of you because I 471 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.960 think the memories someone has of me, because if you remember it' s 472 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:20.679 my life. I would not like to disappear my life for bad good, 473 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.920 that it was wonderful to be able to teleport you anywhere or be able to 474 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:31.280 read the mind. I think they' ll teleport. OK, I wasn 475 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.239 ' t so interested in manipulating people, but rather, because I had more 476 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:39.679 freedom, you' d like to be able to control people' s emotions. 477 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.400 Maybe at some point, yes, for the better, I mean, 478 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:55.679 I think at some point I did have that feeling of being able to tell 479 00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:01.199 the other person. Don' t worry, but I know they' re 480 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.440 with a word It doesn' t work out. But then, if you 481 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:10.519 could suddenly make him feel that things aren' t so serious or something, 482 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.639 if I' d like to do hear tell me something you' d like 483 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.280 to see the future of what' s going to happen for the next ten 484 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:22.679 minutes or see the future of what' s going to happen for the next 485 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:29.880 fifty years? What would you like to guess or see the future of the 486 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.360 next few minutes or the next few years? I believe that of the next 487 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.800 fifty years, that is much more forward than the immediate future, because the 488 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:44.880 immediate future, because it must be lived wonderfully. You' d like to 489 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:50.079 appear in the history books of this country, of Mexico, somehow. Yeah, 490 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.079 I think so, I' d like to. I' m not 491 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.559 focused on it, but if somehow I did something that could leave any echo 492 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:05.199 would be hear fame without money, fame, but I mean fame of that 493 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.719 brutal type Luis Miguel Juan Gabriel not fame without money, you get out. 494 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:16.840 No. I' m barely running my castle. He does not hear this 495 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:23.159 fame without money or money without fame, for I believe that in any case, 496 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:28.880 money without fame, and so, he may be quieter. You' 497 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.880 re my team. You' re on my team, even if we' 498 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.559 re not famous, you' ll catch some peace of mind. He hears 499 00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:43.960 about having climate change or getting world peace. I believe that if we achieve 500 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.719 the global phase, it is easier to have climate change, because we could 501 00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:53.719 all agree. Okay, hey, you think one way or another, okay. 502 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.880 Before that, ask yourself what you' re like with waiting. When 503 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:02.159 you have to wait in the bank line or in the line to not know 504 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:07.599 the self- wash, you are patient or more impatient if it is very 505 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.320 full you leave as you are with the wait. I think so. I 506 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:19.559 am a person who has been able to develop patience, but also if I 507 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.400 also value my time very much and if I see that something does not make 508 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:28.960 sense in question of being waiting a lot, because sometimes I do prefer to 509 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.119 go and do other things. I want to ask you this when you' 510 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:37.480 re involved in politics, when you' re involved as a public servant, 511 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:44.039 your priorities change. I don' t think so. I believe that everyone 512 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:49.679 ' s priority must be to be first to ourselves and that the measure that 513 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:58.679 you can find the formula to be full and happy in that measure you can 514 00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.920 give to others. Then I don' t think you should leave your priority. 515 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:06.159 I think it' s just, it' s a matter of minimizing 516 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:12.119 your time in some way. Okay, hey, tell us. Obviously, 517 00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:19.920 working with people is a complex job. I do not think that the human 518 00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:25.519 resource is already a subject that implies, because a great patience, a listening 519 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:32.239 to people, etcetera. I would love to know what your greatest experience in 520 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.639 public service has been, What satisfaction you take to this day, in all 521 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:43.159 these years that you have participated, evidently, to meet people of different ways 522 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.079 of thinking and being. But one thing that has marked you a couple of 523 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.360 things that you really say child thanks to this is that I can be happy, 524 00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.760 because look at it somehow already. I have commented it is something that 525 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:05.000 has already emerged in the talk trying not to be so repetitive, but at 526 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:10.159 the outset, something that you comment on. Now meet a lot of people. 527 00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:16.960 I think it is a very satisfying thing to generate new connections, new 528 00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:23.199 experiences. I mean, one thing that' s very clear to me is 529 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:30.519 that you never have to be closed to these connections, because they' re 530 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.159 just taking you, they' re taking you to other places and to new 531 00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.599 projects. The truth is that the part of collaborating with people is something very, 532 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:45.559 very satisfying and that, because it is what is leaving you marked in 533 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:52.639 question of what it is to enjoy this path. I am one of the 534 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.880 people who thinks that there are no goals in life, but that there are 535 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.800 paths and that precisely that path here. And, on the other hand, 536 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:09.199 because I was already telling you, a while ago the fact of being able 537 00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:15.800 to generate some actions, activities that I see that people enjoy them, because 538 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:22.199 many times I, when it comes to making some planning, I focus a 539 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.119 lot on how people are going to live it. I don' t try 540 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.679 to put myself in the shoes of the people who are coming and who are 541 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.880 going to have the experience. And what I like most, because it' 542 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:37.199 s seeing people be happy And in the end, when with my team we 543 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.519 ' re picking up everything, the truth is that it' s a heavy 544 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.559 moment, but it' s also a moment, like a lot of mops 545 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:46.480 say, well, we managed to pull off one more event. And this 546 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:53.480 is actually something that has always left me very satisfied. There are young people 547 00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:55.679 today who are said to be boring. It' s just what you' 548 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:59.760 re doing. I' m bored. I' m bored. The worst 549 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:06.320 of all is that there are adults, people my age, people all over 550 00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:10.400 you are very young, people your age who suddenly say I' m bored 551 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:15.159 and I have nothing to do with life. Life is boring, really. 552 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:21.280 You' ve ever had to be bored in the last few years, or 553 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:30.199 it' s a lack of attitude and desire. I believe that generations are 554 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:36.920 boring because, unfortunately, we have and I say we have, because, 555 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.719 at the end of the day, we are the previous and the previous generations. 556 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:46.719 We have conditioned them to immediate satisfaction. Not then, when there is 557 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.880 no immediate satisfaction, because boredom is generated when you are not distracted, not 558 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.719 in some way, then, because that is not being busy, that is 559 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:04.519 being distracted. Precisely then. I don' t think there' s any 560 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:09.360 time for me that my life is really boring, because even the moments when 561 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:17.519 I can rest I enjoy them that way. I appreciate rest when there is 562 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:23.360 opportunity to do so, and sometimes it is less and less, but even 563 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:29.559 in the leisure moments of doing it a little exercise. All that I value 564 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:36.800 because I know that having the time to develop an aspect of your life, 565 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:45.039 because it is valuable then you always have to value that not having sometimes a 566 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:51.320 little time available, because you can dedicate it to some game, because yes, 567 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:59.519 why not say some hobby. For me, it' s getting harder 568 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.559 to watch a series of tradition or watch a movie. And then, when 569 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.719 there is time for that, you also have to enjoy it. He doesn 570 00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:13.159 ' t hear what you' re most grateful for in life. Here you 571 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:19.320 thank more, whether it' s God, the Universe, life. Eduardo 572 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:27.440 is a grateful person, yes, notice, that I do not know if 573 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.599 grateful, but understood in the sense that everything that is put in life, 574 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:37.760 whether it is the Universe God or what everyone considers, helps us to forge, 575 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:44.880 even because above all, the most difficult situations are those that help us 576 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:53.199 to forge us. So it' s complicated when you' re living them, 577 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.760 but it' s precisely the ones that leave you with a life lesson. 578 00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:01.679 No, and then it' s so nice that everything was honey on 579 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:06.559 the leeches. But many times if everything in life goes well, because your 580 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.920 character is not forged, no, then I don' t know. I 581 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:17.199 think that' s when we become like very big or very glass, as 582 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:22.440 they say now, that maybe a whole generation is justifiably accused. But I 583 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:28.159 believe that there are valuable people of all generations and there are people who, 584 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:35.199 also in all generations, have had that comfort. And because it is difficult, 585 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.840 because sometimes we are also not guilty of what they give us or what 586 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:43.800 they stop giving we hear talking a little bit. This way of being personal, 587 00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:52.920 you' re afraid that you think you' re something you' re 588 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.920 not. No, I think I' m very convinced of what I am. 589 00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.880 I believe that the decisions I have made my life and the path I 590 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:08.119 have traveled have been very conscious, very conscious and aware of the risks, 591 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:15.920 of course, and when, then, you do not let yourself be led 592 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:21.440 by life like a belleta, because you cannot take the role of victim, 593 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.639 you always have to be vitally of what you are doing. Which is the 594 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:32.800 hardest thing to be Eduardo Guillén, which is the hardest thing. I don 595 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:38.320 ' t know ever, I' ve never thought about it, you' 596 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:38.920 ve got homework, so yeah, yeah, I don' t know. 597 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:44.719 I wish I had more time to do more things. The truth. I 598 00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:50.000 think that all of a sudden, because I do manage my time and resources 599 00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.960 and all that we' re going to make confessions. And the first confession 600 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:59.920 I want to invite you to make will remind you of some mischief, that 601 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:04.960 your parents were never given to you and that today is probably a good time 602 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.840 to find out something you' ve done, something that doesn' t know 603 00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:13.159 that we' re going to hide it forever, but today came the day 604 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.519 your parents must know. No, and I think we' re very aware 605 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:20.960 of my mischief. I did, I went through a lot as a child 606 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:27.840 and it' s always a familiar topic there, talking about those pranks and 607 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.639 when they called me to the address and sent me to talk to my parents 608 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:37.519 and they pierced my credential, not that of the school expelled. Yeah, 609 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.639 no. I think my pranks were always well known and left consequences. Hey, 610 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.840 we' re here. We are in a culture that now everyone wants 611 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:51.519 to let go and flow. It' s not like someone put on a 612 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.880 vest that says let go and from the back flow and let go and people 613 00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:00.320 are letting go. Business, business, relationship jobs for them because he had 614 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:05.400 a problem, because he had a touch. Where is the half- eduardo 615 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.880 point, where we let go, where we let go of life itself. 616 00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:12.920 There are projects. You know that well, organizing an event isn' t 617 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.079 from the night to the morning. All of a sudden, there' s 618 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:22.440 a lot of work and a lot of money and then more money and then 619 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:27.559 you said I' ve already arrived, not because, even more money and 620 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.519 today we can exemplify this any day. Not so much work. When I 621 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:31.800 wake up at four in the morning, don' t forget. Thank you 622 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:37.440 and you are letting go of why this happens and how far you do let 623 00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:44.480 go and where you do not let go, because the question is a little 624 00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:51.159 bit complicated, because I think there are times that yes, you have to 625 00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.239 let go of that which does not, does not make us grow, that 626 00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:55.039 we above all let go of that which hurts us. That' s, 627 00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:00.280 I think, very important. Things must be left behind in life, but 628 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:07.239 I also believe that we must be above all congruent. And that' s 629 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:13.159 like the hardest part. No, I think we all have to ask ourselves, 630 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.199 because these existential questions. Not the truth, because what I am, 631 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:22.000 who I am, you started the interview, but who is Eduardo Biller, 632 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:27.400 because it is very difficult to say, but I defined myself in a certain 633 00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:31.920 way. But the important thing is to ask ourselves what we want to do, 634 00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:36.800 who we are and what we want to do in this life and from 635 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:42.800 there on, to be congruent with that path that the things you do really 636 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.400 point to. But also, as I said earlier, do not have a 637 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:54.559 certain flexivity to know, learn from experiences and change course when necessary. We 638 00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:59.039 ' re getting to the final straight. I thank you very much for the 639 00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:04.000 kindness, the kindness of this question section. It' s quick questions of 640 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:08.880 yes or no. Evidently, you can raise your hand and say I refrain 641 00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:15.639 from answering, but you' re a psychologist, no, no, but 642 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.000 I would. I' m already self- examining myself to say why I 643 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.320 ' m doing what I' m doing, how obvious it' s interesting. 644 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:24.440 You think we' re going to get into quick questions then, as 645 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.159 fast as you can answer. OK. They' re talking about some questions 646 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:34.400 that are a little witty. So water with the answer. OK, let 647 00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:40.760 ' s get started. You like food. You do want to go to 648 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.800 the beach. Yeah, you' re satisfied with your life. If you 649 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:53.280 tell lies often you don' t consider yourself a controversial person. You do 650 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:59.760 think there' s life on other planets. If you' d like to 651 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.280 talk to an ex- extraterrestrial. Yeah, you say I' m already 652 00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:09.159 doing it. Right now, you support gender equality. Would you like to 653 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:16.280 do it again? Yes, you would like to be immortal. You don 654 00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:29.360 ' t agree with the death penalty for complicated rapists ok in, at some 655 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.880 point you' ve been betrayed, yes, you' ve betrayed someone. 656 00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:39.199 Yeah, you consider yourself a happy person. Yeah, you' ve done 657 00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:45.639 your homework, you haven' t done the trash, you' re not 658 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:51.559 happy. Yes, Eduardo, thank you very much, truly for the kindness. 659 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.679 Before we say goodbye, I' d love for you to give us 660 00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:58.679 a final message. But this final message you' re going to share with 661 00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.000 the whole planet. It will be translated into all languages, in all languages. 662 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.719 The idea is that we' ve all been shocked by Eduardo Guillén' 663 00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:12.800 s words. And we were told tomorrow morning at ten in the morning. 664 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:16.800 Then, because we listen to you, my dear Eduardo, what message you 665 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:25.400 would give to this planet earth, for nothing, be happy blood with yourself 666 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:30.719 And so let us take advantage of the time we have in this life and 667 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.760 dear, Eduardo, so many thanks to all the people who are listening to 668 00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:38.639 us nothing more through podcast platforms, remind us of your social networks, the 669 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:44.159 social networks of the Secretariat of Tourism of San Juan del Río and also remind 670 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:49.400 us a little bit of mild, the event Forgive me beefest Please, go 671 00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:50.920 ahead, yes important that nothing, Luis, thank you very much for the 672 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.360 interview. The truth is, I enjoyed it a lot, a lot of 673 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:58.880 fun, a lot of fun, and I congratulate you on your work and 674 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:02.199 on those kinds of interviews. And well you' re on the social media 675 00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:07.760 tourism page. We' re like San Juan del Río Tourism. My personal 676 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.559 pages on Instagram and Facebook are like Guillén rom that are my surnames Guillen Romero, 677 00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:19.599 but until the m ok and because we have soon this festival of do 678 00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.239 Te. I' ll give you the specific dates. Yes, Brother, 679 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.519 I don' t think I have it so close to hand, but well, 680 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:31.119 it' s the first weekend of Easter holidays at the end of March. 681 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:34.840 It' s the vile bajio feast. It is hard Friday, Saturday 682 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.639 and Sunday and the truth we invite you to casstar at three days so that 683 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:43.079 you can enjoy all the variety of food and beer to staff that we will 684 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.960 have there. Thank you very much, thank you very much for the willingness, 685 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.639 for the kindness. Luis Eduardo Guillén Romero. It has been a pleasure 686 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.400 and a privilege and to all of you also thank you so much for listening, 687 00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:00.320 for sharing, for connecting that you have an excellent day late tomorrow wherever 688 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.320 you are. I am Luis Miguel Salgado and we meet and listen in a 689 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:07.639 next chapter of what a good question. Thank you all. Eduardo a hug 690 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:10.280 and I' m going to go to the tamales, even if I' 691 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.039 m angry don' t just tell him. That' s where I' 692 00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.920 ll take you, you' ll rub it in, you' ll catch 693 00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:16.920 it, good afternoon, all of you, see you later.