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And in this chapter I have a gentleman who will truly enjoy his presence a
person prepared, intelligent, creative, but also with a rather interesting and important
social approach. This is Eduardo Guillén, my dear, Eduardo, welcome,
how you are, friend, for nothing. Thank you so much for the
introduction. I don' t deserve it, but, well, thank you
for the invitation. Well, nothing. The truth is, a fair conversation
with you. We' ve been going around in networks for some time now
and very interesting your content, very interesting interviews And, well, out there
with some friends in common that I' ve had the opportunity to listen to
and I thank you for this space. True truth, a lot of pleasure.
Let me, please, present to you as you deserve Luis Eduardo Guillén
Romero. He holds a degree in visual arts, specializing in plastic arts from
the Universidad Autónoma de Querétaro, where he also studied master' s degree in
interdisciplinary studies in art and humanities. Fellow in two thousand and eight of the
master' s degree in Grática at the International Printing Centre in Betanzos, Province
of Galicia, Spain. In his module of gilography, he has thirty years
of experience in different fields of the arts, such as graphic design, engraving,
in the plastic arts. Participated in many exhibitions believe me has participated in
collective and individual exhibitions, among which stand out those made in spaces such as
the gallery of the SIEC Foundation in Bettansus in Spain, the Galería Libertad de
Querétaro and the Museo de Arte de Querétaro, which, by the way,
if you go to Querétaro, you have to visit. It' s a
truly committed stop. It is a mandatory stop, required to be able to
learn a little more about the art of many representatives. Eduardo Guillén has held
different positions in the municipal government of San Juan del Río in Querétaro since the
year two thousand, as he has been Head of Cultural Organization, Director of
Culture and Tourism, head of the Municipal Institute of Culture, Tourism and Youth
and since January of the two thousand twenty- two he serves as Director of
Tourism. Since the two thousand nineteen he has held the position of Technical Secretary
of Sons juando el Río before the National Association of Mexican World Heritage Cities,
and the truth is that it is a pleasure and a privilege. As I
say to all of you, this practice is going to get very interesting.
We will talk about art of culture and we will also, of course,
talk about how to approach this effort at the local, state and, of
course, federal levels, and a lot of things. If it' s
okay with you, let' s start hi how Miguel Salgado soys and I
understand to believe, grow, learn, live, be a rribre, we
have to ask ourselves constantly. Put on the how and when there is for
what and even the ICN I love to ask questions. He has become a
fortress and an opportunity to live, literally, in a blessing. Asking the
questions at the right time is an art to listen to the answers and their
intention gives you wisdom if you apply the answer. I believe that the solution
of the problems comes in the quality of the question. This space is based
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Welcome. This is a good question, I' m Luis Miguel Salgado.
What, if it' s okay with you, we start, because
he' s with us here. What a good question, Eduardo Guillén.
For me it is a pleasure, a privilege and I would love to ask
you to start, my dear, Eduardo, this is a question that I
ask all my guests before starting with a talk with you about many things,
I would be interested to know who Eduardo Guillén is. Far from graduates,
masters, trips, medals, please don' t tell us who Eduardo Guido
is. Okay. It is a very simple question, but at the same
time difficult to answer, especially as you ask it. Not me, because
I do consider myself a person who likes to be creative, I like to
do things, I like that they have an impact on society that, because
the ideas that one can suddenly accommodate in his mind, because they do not
stay there and have an achievement. I think it' s the main thing.
Hence my interest in studying a career that has to do with art and
after also entering the public service I take an interest in politics and in doing
things to, then, make some changes, especially that I think that that
was what brought me closer to politics definitely tell us, please, where that
creativity comes from. It' s always been creative, from Chavito or suddenly
one day you dropped an apple, as they tell us about Newton and that
you discovered. It didn' t happen like that or how it worked.
The next sticky question with this is why you' re not an astronaut or
marine chemist or what I know don' t notice you are. There'
s this cliché. I think so. Since childhood there, in elementary school
I loved drawing and I loved drawing too, because I understood a lot of
what has happened in the world of history, science and everything. I believe
that always these aspects that, as I say to you, have changed the
world, were always of my interest in understanding things, how they work,
and so on. And yes, I could definitely have been some other things,
some engineer, an industrial designer or something, but always the part of
being able to admire nature and look, so things also made by man,
led me to lean on this side of art. I, at some point,
before discovering these artistic disciplines, was interested in being an architect. Then
the graphic design came out and, at the end of the day, I
studied in a career that I had to see a little bit, both with
graphic design and with the plastic arts. And well, already with a terminal
line in plastic arts. Listen to this subject of the plastic arts, the
visual arts. Design you, I mean, designers, artists, see things
that we don' t see, you see things that suddenly a real tree,
a landscape, something that you perceive differently. It is a gift my
dear, eduardo, it is a gift or it is perhaps those people we
would like at some point. I' ll tell you one thing. They
give me a psychometric exam and they put me on. Draw the tree.
You know, I don' t draw a tree, I draw a man.
No, man. It' s the hardest test I can get.
I know they value other things, but you don' t know what a
terrible thing is really how you do it, if that' s a gift
or, you' re also getting ready to see life differently, because yes,
I think everyone is going to develop their faculties and their competencies. We
definitely have different personalities sometimes that make us pay attention to different things. I
have therefore been able to teach different subjects of drawing, illustration, etcetera.
And because it has touched me now yes, it works with students who already
bring experience or already have some taste and also with some other students, some
that from scratch, because you have to start as to orient them and to
sensitize them. And I have always said that, precisely as you mentioned it,
the subject is in observation and where you focus your attention and be able
to pay attention to certain interesting details on how things work, how light is
projected, and so on. No, and since you understand how things are,
then suddenly you can think about what they might be like if other factors
were involved. And then that' s where a little bit comes in,
the factor of creativity, which, well, it' s also important for
this world, because without creativity, there would be no inventions, there would
be no advances, there wouldn' t be many things that, then,
have made us what we are now, for better or for worse. I
think we can definitely still improve a lot, because there are things that we
may have done as well, but that we have also had the experiences sometimes
so that we realize what we have to improve when I talk to plastic artists
like you, with this ability to interpret the world differently, notice that it
is a challenge for me, because, obviously, you do not just have
to prepare, you do not just have to study, you do not just
have to be experimenting too. But one very important feature is that you are
brave, courageous in what sense, in presenting ideas creatively, but also even
brave to have a theme. They call it human resources, a good endurance
to frustration, to endure those criticisms and those suddenly they tell you. Oh
how you did it to handle criticism, because then positive criticism and then negative
criticism. So we are in a very complicated time, where everyone criticizes you.
If you applaud because you applaud, and don' t applaud because you
don' t applaud, if you expose, because you expose, and how
you do it to handle frustration and where you get this courage to say this
is what I believe. And there you go, gentlemen, I don'
t know if you do. I think this thing that you mention many artists
live it. But I also think that somehow, sometimes because we don'
t realize, we don' t realize we' re so stubborn about what
we' re doing that sometimes we don' t understand it that way,
just because we try to be focused on achieving what we want to project.
And, at the end of the day, I think that, because all
people, not just artists, to grow and to base, because we have
to get out of the comfort zone It' s not what it is.
Sometimes it' s very difficult, because if we don' t act on
what we have, as I said earlier, that we have in mind,
we can' t translate it into reality. Then there may be many people
in this life who could have transformed the world and who could have had characteristics
of doing artists and being many things, but sometimes all those ideas are left
in the head. Not then, then, yes, we have to be
uncomfortable, sometimes we have to be disciplined, we have to carry things.
Now you have to deal with reality. And so sometimes that implies, because
to let the criticisms pass you and that you pass those kinds of questions and
and focus rather on what you want to achieve and that you also do not
stay in a single objective, that you also have the ability to be able
to sometimes move a little, because, because sometimes what we could have as
a primordial idea, because it can change over time, and we are not
always right from the beginning, because we have to be so with that ability
to be flexible and to adapt, let' s say you' re not
also perfectionist. You consider yourself a perfectionist, because I imagine that you already
finish a play, you present it as I do. Well, at least.
I think if I were to be one day, I would be this
guy and I think you guys, sort of, go around and say,
yeah, but I need to, no, and I' m done with
the show, you take her home or whatever you say you see, I
' m going to do and it' s a constant change and change if
you' re a profectist or you say I' m done. That'
s it. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have that spirit
of saying good sometimes. This may have been yes or I would like to
intervene or modify it, but I think also in a very practical sense,
it is best to leave that and continue and do something else again. Let
' s say that we also need to be able to leave things behind and
not continue. So yes, I like to bring things to the point that
they satisfied me, but I also don' t like to stick so much
into what might have been no. I think life teaches us that you can
' t stay in the past and also you can' t be obsessed with
the future, but you have to be now. Yes, always the patient
time. Talk to a Formula One pilot, talk to a cardiologist, talk
to a writer, talk to a politician, talk to a politician, talk
about a formula, one of cardiology in his branch, because it is obviously
exciting. I think going with you to a museum can learn a lot not
how critical and how strong you are here among us, not from the art
of others, because suddenly you vote with respect. No. I think we
can nail them, you and I, what art is and what it is
and what it is and what it isn' t. There are some awful
exposures, I mean, there are some things that are so real. The
other day I saw a banana, a banana, a fruit, a plan
not. Okay. I did, I saw a banana there on a plate
cost eighteen thousand dollars and then it was. This is one for me,
it was a mockery of people' s intelligence. You' re not rude
to the art of others Look what happens is that being critical or art involves
a lot of things. There is no other work that also speaks. Well,
this one you mention is a derivative. There is also one that is
a banana stuck on a wall with a ribbon of those ducts, gafer tape,
because there you have those of the gallery, because changing the banana every
finished time, so that it will be renewed. No, and, and
well, there have been art critics coming in who came to this exhibition to
grab that banana eat. Yes, sometimes the idea of art, because it
is like reflecting and giving what to talk about and talk about things that happen
at the moment and that are often difficult to understand, because what is that
proposal. I wouldn' t tell you that I say in my very particular
point of view, I don' t like to be critical, but to
try to understand and sometimes seeing art, because rather, if you don'
t connect and don' t move you, because that' s what I
think it is, like saying it as the sadst thing, that art doesn
' t get to connect with you, that it doesn' t get to
provoke you. I think that, because when there is something that you enjoy,
that moves you or that sometimes makes you react and reflect, because it
is when art is achieving its objective and that the saddest thing told you,
because it would not provoke any reaction that you simply say, because it is
beautiful, but it is like a hundred thousand more works, not then clear,
obviously, there speaking of museums, because there are works that have this
character of being symbolic and important for the history of art and contemplate them and
connect with that reality of a different moment, because it is very interesting.
But current art, because it is very difficult to understand in that sense,
that anyone can say good, because ok I could come and do these And
why this is worth thousands of dollars, no yes, yes, and because
there will always be that point of discussion of what art really is believe me
that today and with so much knowledge and with so many theorists and philosophers of
artists and critics, we cannot yet agree on what the act is. And
well, that' s a central part of the discussion. Inevitably, what
is an art is being able to talk to you and I' d love
to hear from you. Please, what it feels like to exhibit a play
of yours. I want you to evoke, please, the memory of the
first exhibition you gave in Spain and the first time you received the applause you
said. No, because I imagine the nerve and all that, but go
ahead, having worked and having it there with people must be a very interesting
rush. Not how you felt, please, how you saw it, for
Mira is not as such, like a play in which you receive the applause
of the people. I think it does generate a feeling of satisfaction to say
Look, for here is my work. No yes, and obviously, because
the people who accompany you in a moment. So, it' s people
who are close to you who have affection for you, etcetera. And there
will always be favorable, not or encouraging comments. But I say, at
the end of the day, to expose is not to be exposed to being
subject to some having an opinion about the work. And notice that, therefore,
not only speaking in the world of art, but also many years of
my life because, as you already mentioned, I have dedicated myself to public
service and sometimes the works that have given me satisfaction are not only those that
come out of my brush or my pencil or my bubias, from my engraving,
etc, the stained glass that I also like to do very much,
but those in which you can offer people something that they enjoy in this sense,
because with the activities that being within the culture and tourism here, in
my municipality, has touched me, because it has generated ideas in festivals,
events and that you can see that there are thousands of people that are enjoying
it. I too would compare this with this feeling that you said you were
trying to evoke and I think that has sometimes given me more satisfaction. Let
me, let me, as they say in football, make an extreme game
change let' s talk about this topic and this interest in working for the
government. I understand that it is also a vocation. You do it as
a vocation, you do it with a genuine interest that you are, I
think, doing an exceptional San Juan del Río job for those people who do
not know because they listen to us from other countries. It is a town
in the state of Querétaro. It is approximately two hours, two and a
half hours from Mexico City and is characterized by being a mainly industrial city.
However, today it has opened not only at the state level, but also
at the municipal level to receive a lot of tourism and then it is also
an obligatory step to know many things. They have a wonderful San Juan del
Río story and talking a little bit about art or talking a lot about art,
well. They have many, many options to share cultural, religious,
historical and good. I love that I can talk to you. First,
tell us where this desire arises to serve people through tourism and culture. And,
second, you' re doing a very important job, along with all
your team and the alliances you' re carrying out. The Birth Museum.
I think it should be known to all the citizens of this planet earth.
I think it' s a reference, it' s a jewel that they
have there, but they also have these exhibitions that are coming up as they
are about wine, beer. Plat us, please, first, where it
arises and then, because this chambotota you have. Yeah, well, there
' s a lot, a lot of things you' re proposing, but,
well, let' s start at the beginning and I can tell you
that. From the beginning it was an interest me, as a young plastic
artist at that time, because perhaps a little dissatisfied with the things that were
done in my municipality, being a relatively small municipality. Good things were done.
There had been some questions that I think have been good for the municipality,
but because always looking for more and looking for it to open up as
at the time, because to new expressions, to remove a little that part
so traditional not and that, because there was more openness. I, at
the time, did a project to be able to do things from the government
and, fortunately, at that time there was the opportunity to work and propose
things that, therefore, have been achieved, that have had impacts. And
you can say that, for example, in two thousand seven I had to
propose the creation of a festival, because the only thing, the only strong
event here, in San Juan de Rio, at a cultural level, because
it was the Fair of San Juan del Río, It was once a year.
Then, at that time, because new ideas had to be generated and
I proposed a festival with the purpose of making known the Museum of Death that
existed here in San Juan de Rio. Now the name has been changed from
a new museography that is being designed. But, well, this Day of
the Dead festival came up. And now, seventeen years later, that festival
is still there and it is something important for our cities, one of the
main references in the cultural and tourist part. That is where we have in
this event a contest that is the contest of plañideras and that at the time
was another person to whom he proposed it, but that it has been possible
to give constitution and, as I have said, in many places there is
nothing that has been done in San Juan del Río that has had as much
impact or as much interest at the national, international level as is this topic
of the contest of planideras. So much so that a year ago the BBC
de Londos was documenting, reports have been published in the New York Times,
in different newspapers in Spain, Argentina, etcetera, and, obviously, throughout
Mexico. So that interest precisely in doing new things for culture and, of
course, now also with the focus of tourism, which for me is a
bit the same culture, because it is trying to develop and to make known
all the historical artistic richness that we have, and tourism is responsible precisely for
spreading it, to get people interested in them and to come to see it
and that, because that also generates an economic benefit for our city. So,
let' s say that that was the original interest that made me approach
this part, which is therefore to implement some plans, some strategies in public
policy and all these issues. But that, at the end of the day,
it' s a super noble area, it' s very nice and
the truth is that I can tell you that I really enjoy a job,
I really think it' s also a titanic job that you' re doing
and very praiseworthy, because it was necessary. It was necessary that not only
the people of San Juan know new proposals, but that the people around San
Juan del Río is located in a strategic place for the exit Texicaapan to the
rock of Bernal is not very, very close. Obviously, I want to.
So I think it' s a Geographically, it' s a,
it' s an interesting industrially good proposal that you can say the big industries
have plants there and so on. And what is important is that also this
proposal of Querétaro, which has a lot to give San Juan del Río,
will do and is already the governor. We' ve heard it on several
occasions where you' re going to inject economy, but you' re going
to inject a different vision as well, and that, that' s to
be appreciated. Now I' d love all the people because, obviously,
I know you' re preparing things there. I was told by a little
bird that you' re making interesting things out there. I would like to
know what you can advance us now in advance so that people will not only
pre- empt the subject of the days, their calendar, their agenda.
What' s going on, my dear Edward, well, there' s
a lot coming. Fate you talking a little bit and taking back everything you
just mentioned. That is, Juan de Río, because we consider it as
the gateway to the Bajío. It' s this connection point where a lot
of things move from here. It is a city with four hundred eighty-
two years of history, founded a month and a day before I look at
Santiago de Querétaro Es. We share much of our origin. However, because
we had different developments now, but in the end it costs is the historical
part. There is and there is this theme of the Route of cheese wine,
which precisely begins in San Juan del Río and which, precisely, connecting
it with your question, we have just opened a space that is the house
of cheese and wine and in what we propose as the beginning of the route
precisely of this product that has been so successful and that generates more than a
million visits a year here to Querétaro, which generates an interesting economic spill,
that has made a change in the tourist vision of the south of Querétaro.
Especially then, because that is one of the aspects that we are going to
be working hard to make known this space, in generating activities, tastings,
varieties, that scenes, etc, that people can know what are Queretan wines,
Queretan cheeses and also craft beer, that we are including in this space,
because in San Juan de Rio we have one of the biggest producers of
craft beer. Then it is very much aligned to this theme, to promote
gastronomy, wines, cheeses and craft beer, precisely also in tune. With
this we do a festival that we are going to hold in the last weeks
of March, which is the first weekend of the Easter holidays. We do
the Lower Billfest, which is a brewing festival that this year is also going
to have a lot of focus on what barbecues are. And all this so
that the people who come, because they can enjoy it in the gastronomic question,
in the question of tasting the craft beer, and also, of course,
because it is accompanied by a very interesting artistic program. So, there
' s one of the main events we have. The bajio grifest at the
end of the barzo, the first end of paths of the Easter holidays and
good because the day I don' t know when my beloved Luis Mi comes
to the interview, but this Friday 26th of January the national contest and tamales
and atole x to fame in the cardinal of the family from the four of
the TAA is held. And the truth is that it is a delight to
taste all varieties of salty tamales, sweets and currents. So it' s
just that, if you have a chance to take a walk, I'
m gonna be happy to say hello here, because you' re gonna enjoy
it. Yeah. Some friends in common have already confirmed their attendance. So,
they' re gonna have a great time. Hey, I love it,
I love this invitation. I thank you so much. I' d
be happy my nutrolo that you' re gonna hang me on, but you
know you don' t hear, but I think it' s really worth
all the effort you' re making along with your team. Let me first
congratulate all the people. Please reserve this date because, while it is true
that this basso fest is going to get very good, because you are handmade
beers check. There are a number of stunning beers in keretaro and then one
is going to try different beers. Then there is roasting or preparing different cuts
of meat. It' s a family event. There will surely be a
stage where groups will come, to sing, to play, to live together.
It' s a family event, but also with the theme of having
a really good time. I want to tell you that we are living a
time of hyperconnectivity with the cell phone. Well these activities and believe me that
you go to San Juan del Río, to know only, to know the
center, to know the museums, to know that you are going to take
a very pleasant experience. The people are very kind and above all, the
best of all, they eat very rich also some ice creams to Enson Juan
that for to tell you in their cheeks are not free and my dear Eduardo
does not hear. I want you to tell us. Please, Evidently,
there is some place or where we can see more about the festival for the
ticket theme and others already have some particular place or through your instagram how we
contact you. Yes, of course, the festival is a free event or
what is invited, because it is that people make the consumption. The truth
is that, as you said, it is a family event, Although there
is the theme of craft beer, it is, the truth, everything very
well raised for people to enjoy. There is no excess consumption and the base
will have a great time. We have a specific page on both Instagram and
Facebook of Bajío Bill Fest. This is how you can find it and also,
of course, on the social tourism networks of San Juan de Rio,
which are, because in that way, both on Instagram and on Facebook and
in Tiktok we are like tourism San Juan del Río, Tourism s JR.
In the case of Tiktok' s specific, then they' ll be able
to find all the information there. Right now. We are precisely in what
is the commercialization of the spaces. If someone is also interested in bringing their
burgers to the grill, to their ribs or anything else, in addition to
the Arsonal Cherries, of course, they are in time to take shots in
contact with a man and it is a jewel because one can eat ribs,
cuts hamburgers. Then I think I think it' s also important because of
the number of people going, because this would be worth it. There you
can make a good deal. Hey, my dear Eduardo, let' s
talk now about certain things that interest us in your way of thinking. Let
' s play with the imaginary. Many times we think I don' t
know if it' s happened to you, but at least to me,
sometimes you' re thinking pure nonsense. Not all of a sudden we think
for the wrong, and we' re out there slamming. Well, let
' s play with the imaginary. And I' d love to ask you
this. Imagine you got a chance to win the lottery. But a brutal
amount of eduardo money, brutal. I' m talking about four hundred billion
dollars. You know$ 400 billion is a brutal amount. What would you
do with that money? No, it' s just that look. The
truth is that with such a figure, obviously, one cannot be selfish not
to think that you would have the ability to move it to a particular benefit
and enjoyment, no doubt would seek in what way to benefit the greatest number
of people at this time. That way, I can' t tell you
in what way. But there are certainly many people who need, not money
properly, but who need food, who need clothing, who need culture,
who need many things. I think I would certainly try to move it as
intelligently as possible to the greatest possible benefit, also to the greatest number of
people. I think with such an unaffordable amount of money, that' s
not something you can enjoy in such a selfish way. No, I think
that a tiny fraction of it, which is enough for one to cover one
' s needs and because not having to rush in life, is what I
wanted to ask you is to hire some financial advisor. You' d buy
yourself, I don' t know a last model ferrary to walk in San
Juan del Río. I don' t think they were. It' s
too fast. No, but this one does, yeah, you' d
be the thing about walking around in yachts and so on, because that'
s where you' re going where you' re not. It' s
not that good. You pose many things that have to do with, that
is, yes, a yacht I don' t know would enjoy here in
San Juan de Rio, you would really tempt that you would live somewhere else
and I don' t know if it was specifically about that. I don
' t think so, because I' m here like this. This does
not mean that I do not aspire to suddenly have fun or enjoy some other
places that too, because I have also had this opportunity to know many places
and that, then, also helps you to have a different vision. I
would try because I do not know how to deny any benefit to the people,
because of the place where I live and perhaps because I know some other
places, I would not hire a financial adviser, but, perhaps. Some
counselors who could tell me in what way it would be the most intelligent and
most generous way, somehow we could say it, without it also sound like
you give yourself chest blows that yes, yes, yes, the best person
not, but being a quantity. So, I think with a lot less
I would tell you it would be a very comfortable place and be able to
start thinking about other people remember that here that good question, there are no
good or bad answers. Then we want to, at the end of the
road play with this imagination. I want to ask you what would you rather
never close a door or never be able to open a door? Tell me
again, why can' t I ever close a door? Or never be
able to open a door? No, because I can' t, I
' d rather never close a door? Okay, tell me, I can
' t open any doors, because then there' s no movement, there
' s no growth. Sure, totally agree with you, hear what you
' d rather look at the search history, the Internet, your parents'
or your partner' s I don' t know about this one. I
think I' m very respectful of people' s privacy. And OK,
like saying, don' t look for something, because maybe you don'
t want to find it. No and I don' t know in any
case, I preferred my parents', OK, great, you' d
rather erase your own memories or erase the memories someone has of you because I
think the memories someone has of me, because if you remember it' s
my life. I would not like to disappear my life for bad good,
that it was wonderful to be able to teleport you anywhere or be able to
read the mind. I think they' ll teleport. OK, I wasn
' t so interested in manipulating people, but rather, because I had more
freedom, you' d like to be able to control people' s emotions.
Maybe at some point, yes, for the better, I mean,
I think at some point I did have that feeling of being able to tell
the other person. Don' t worry, but I know they' re
with a word It doesn' t work out. But then, if you
could suddenly make him feel that things aren' t so serious or something,
if I' d like to do hear tell me something you' d like
to see the future of what' s going to happen for the next ten
minutes or see the future of what' s going to happen for the next
fifty years? What would you like to guess or see the future of the
next few minutes or the next few years? I believe that of the next
fifty years, that is much more forward than the immediate future, because the
immediate future, because it must be lived wonderfully. You' d like to
appear in the history books of this country, of Mexico, somehow. Yeah,
I think so, I' d like to. I' m not
focused on it, but if somehow I did something that could leave any echo
would be hear fame without money, fame, but I mean fame of that
brutal type Luis Miguel Juan Gabriel not fame without money, you get out.
No. I' m barely running my castle. He does not hear this
fame without money or money without fame, for I believe that in any case,
money without fame, and so, he may be quieter. You'
re my team. You' re on my team, even if we'
re not famous, you' ll catch some peace of mind. He hears
about having climate change or getting world peace. I believe that if we achieve
the global phase, it is easier to have climate change, because we could
all agree. Okay, hey, you think one way or another, okay.
Before that, ask yourself what you' re like with waiting. When
you have to wait in the bank line or in the line to not know
the self- wash, you are patient or more impatient if it is very
full you leave as you are with the wait. I think so. I
am a person who has been able to develop patience, but also if I
also value my time very much and if I see that something does not make
sense in question of being waiting a lot, because sometimes I do prefer to
go and do other things. I want to ask you this when you'
re involved in politics, when you' re involved as a public servant,
your priorities change. I don' t think so. I believe that everyone
' s priority must be to be first to ourselves and that the measure that
you can find the formula to be full and happy in that measure you can
give to others. Then I don' t think you should leave your priority.
I think it' s just, it' s a matter of minimizing
your time in some way. Okay, hey, tell us. Obviously,
working with people is a complex job. I do not think that the human
resource is already a subject that implies, because a great patience, a listening
to people, etcetera. I would love to know what your greatest experience in
public service has been, What satisfaction you take to this day, in all
these years that you have participated, evidently, to meet people of different ways
of thinking and being. But one thing that has marked you a couple of
things that you really say child thanks to this is that I can be happy,
because look at it somehow already. I have commented it is something that
has already emerged in the talk trying not to be so repetitive, but at
the outset, something that you comment on. Now meet a lot of people.
I think it is a very satisfying thing to generate new connections, new
experiences. I mean, one thing that' s very clear to me is
that you never have to be closed to these connections, because they' re
just taking you, they' re taking you to other places and to new
projects. The truth is that the part of collaborating with people is something very,
very satisfying and that, because it is what is leaving you marked in
question of what it is to enjoy this path. I am one of the
people who thinks that there are no goals in life, but that there are
paths and that precisely that path here. And, on the other hand,
because I was already telling you, a while ago the fact of being able
to generate some actions, activities that I see that people enjoy them, because
many times I, when it comes to making some planning, I focus a
lot on how people are going to live it. I don' t try
to put myself in the shoes of the people who are coming and who are
going to have the experience. And what I like most, because it'
s seeing people be happy And in the end, when with my team we
' re picking up everything, the truth is that it' s a heavy
moment, but it' s also a moment, like a lot of mops
say, well, we managed to pull off one more event. And this
is actually something that has always left me very satisfied. There are young people
today who are said to be boring. It' s just what you'
re doing. I' m bored. I' m bored. The worst
of all is that there are adults, people my age, people all over
you are very young, people your age who suddenly say I' m bored
and I have nothing to do with life. Life is boring, really.
You' ve ever had to be bored in the last few years, or
it' s a lack of attitude and desire. I believe that generations are
boring because, unfortunately, we have and I say we have, because,
at the end of the day, we are the previous and the previous generations.
We have conditioned them to immediate satisfaction. Not then, when there is
no immediate satisfaction, because boredom is generated when you are not distracted, not
in some way, then, because that is not being busy, that is
being distracted. Precisely then. I don' t think there' s any
time for me that my life is really boring, because even the moments when
I can rest I enjoy them that way. I appreciate rest when there is
opportunity to do so, and sometimes it is less and less, but even
in the leisure moments of doing it a little exercise. All that I value
because I know that having the time to develop an aspect of your life,
because it is valuable then you always have to value that not having sometimes a
little time available, because you can dedicate it to some game, because yes,
why not say some hobby. For me, it' s getting harder
to watch a series of tradition or watch a movie. And then, when
there is time for that, you also have to enjoy it. He doesn
' t hear what you' re most grateful for in life. Here you
thank more, whether it' s God, the Universe, life. Eduardo
is a grateful person, yes, notice, that I do not know if
grateful, but understood in the sense that everything that is put in life,
whether it is the Universe God or what everyone considers, helps us to forge,
even because above all, the most difficult situations are those that help us
to forge us. So it' s complicated when you' re living them,
but it' s precisely the ones that leave you with a life lesson.
No, and then it' s so nice that everything was honey on
the leeches. But many times if everything in life goes well, because your
character is not forged, no, then I don' t know. I
think that' s when we become like very big or very glass, as
they say now, that maybe a whole generation is justifiably accused. But I
believe that there are valuable people of all generations and there are people who,
also in all generations, have had that comfort. And because it is difficult,
because sometimes we are also not guilty of what they give us or what
they stop giving we hear talking a little bit. This way of being personal,
you' re afraid that you think you' re something you' re
not. No, I think I' m very convinced of what I am.
I believe that the decisions I have made my life and the path I
have traveled have been very conscious, very conscious and aware of the risks,
of course, and when, then, you do not let yourself be led
by life like a belleta, because you cannot take the role of victim,
you always have to be vitally of what you are doing. Which is the
hardest thing to be Eduardo Guillén, which is the hardest thing. I don
' t know ever, I' ve never thought about it, you'
ve got homework, so yeah, yeah, I don' t know.
I wish I had more time to do more things. The truth. I
think that all of a sudden, because I do manage my time and resources
and all that we' re going to make confessions. And the first confession
I want to invite you to make will remind you of some mischief, that
your parents were never given to you and that today is probably a good time
to find out something you' ve done, something that doesn' t know
that we' re going to hide it forever, but today came the day
your parents must know. No, and I think we' re very aware
of my mischief. I did, I went through a lot as a child
and it' s always a familiar topic there, talking about those pranks and
when they called me to the address and sent me to talk to my parents
and they pierced my credential, not that of the school expelled. Yeah,
no. I think my pranks were always well known and left consequences. Hey,
we' re here. We are in a culture that now everyone wants
to let go and flow. It' s not like someone put on a
vest that says let go and from the back flow and let go and people
are letting go. Business, business, relationship jobs for them because he had
a problem, because he had a touch. Where is the half- eduardo
point, where we let go, where we let go of life itself.
There are projects. You know that well, organizing an event isn' t
from the night to the morning. All of a sudden, there' s
a lot of work and a lot of money and then more money and then
you said I' ve already arrived, not because, even more money and
today we can exemplify this any day. Not so much work. When I
wake up at four in the morning, don' t forget. Thank you
and you are letting go of why this happens and how far you do let
go and where you do not let go, because the question is a little
bit complicated, because I think there are times that yes, you have to
let go of that which does not, does not make us grow, that
we above all let go of that which hurts us. That' s,
I think, very important. Things must be left behind in life, but
I also believe that we must be above all congruent. And that' s
like the hardest part. No, I think we all have to ask ourselves,
because these existential questions. Not the truth, because what I am,
who I am, you started the interview, but who is Eduardo Biller,
because it is very difficult to say, but I defined myself in a certain
way. But the important thing is to ask ourselves what we want to do,
who we are and what we want to do in this life and from
there on, to be congruent with that path that the things you do really
point to. But also, as I said earlier, do not have a
certain flexivity to know, learn from experiences and change course when necessary. We
' re getting to the final straight. I thank you very much for the
kindness, the kindness of this question section. It' s quick questions of
yes or no. Evidently, you can raise your hand and say I refrain
from answering, but you' re a psychologist, no, no, but
I would. I' m already self- examining myself to say why I
' m doing what I' m doing, how obvious it' s interesting.
You think we' re going to get into quick questions then, as
fast as you can answer. OK. They' re talking about some questions
that are a little witty. So water with the answer. OK, let
' s get started. You like food. You do want to go to
the beach. Yeah, you' re satisfied with your life. If you
tell lies often you don' t consider yourself a controversial person. You do
think there' s life on other planets. If you' d like to
talk to an ex- extraterrestrial. Yeah, you say I' m already
doing it. Right now, you support gender equality. Would you like to
do it again? Yes, you would like to be immortal. You don
' t agree with the death penalty for complicated rapists ok in, at some
point you' ve been betrayed, yes, you' ve betrayed someone.
Yeah, you consider yourself a happy person. Yeah, you' ve done
your homework, you haven' t done the trash, you' re not
happy. Yes, Eduardo, thank you very much, truly for the kindness.
Before we say goodbye, I' d love for you to give us
a final message. But this final message you' re going to share with
the whole planet. It will be translated into all languages, in all languages.
The idea is that we' ve all been shocked by Eduardo Guillén'
s words. And we were told tomorrow morning at ten in the morning.
Then, because we listen to you, my dear Eduardo, what message you
would give to this planet earth, for nothing, be happy blood with yourself
And so let us take advantage of the time we have in this life and
dear, Eduardo, so many thanks to all the people who are listening to
us nothing more through podcast platforms, remind us of your social networks, the
social networks of the Secretariat of Tourism of San Juan del Río and also remind
us a little bit of mild, the event Forgive me beefest Please, go
ahead, yes important that nothing, Luis, thank you very much for the
interview. The truth is, I enjoyed it a lot, a lot of
fun, a lot of fun, and I congratulate you on your work and
on those kinds of interviews. And well you' re on the social media
tourism page. We' re like San Juan del Río Tourism. My personal
pages on Instagram and Facebook are like Guillén rom that are my surnames Guillen Romero,
but until the m ok and because we have soon this festival of do
Te. I' ll give you the specific dates. Yes, Brother,
I don' t think I have it so close to hand, but well,
it' s the first weekend of Easter holidays at the end of March.
It' s the vile bajio feast. It is hard Friday, Saturday
and Sunday and the truth we invite you to casstar at three days so that
you can enjoy all the variety of food and beer to staff that we will
have there. Thank you very much, thank you very much for the willingness,
for the kindness. Luis Eduardo Guillén Romero. It has been a pleasure
and a privilege and to all of you also thank you so much for listening,
for sharing, for connecting that you have an excellent day late tomorrow wherever
you are. I am Luis Miguel Salgado and we meet and listen in a
next chapter of what a good question. Thank you all. Eduardo a hug
and I' m going to go to the tamales, even if I'
m angry don' t just tell him. That' s where I'
ll take you, you' ll rub it in, you' ll catch
it, good afternoon, all of you, see you later.