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It's an easy thing to say the
phrase sex trafficking. It's much harder to

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meet people who've been through it.
When we went through our three year journey

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through teen and family adolescent mental health, I met a girl who was sex

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trafficked twice. She then kidnapped twice. Last trip put her in the back

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of a truck for several months,
not knowing where she was and being abused

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in unspeakable ways. That's the human
portion of this. The economic portion of

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this communicates a coldness that most people
are able to operate in, a blistful

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sense of lack of awareness. Nate
Lewis, the founder and CEO of Innocence

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Rescue Mission, doesn't have that luxury
because he's in the business of helping to

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rescue people. Rescue innocence. You
hear about sex trafficking from an angle that

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you Lord. The Todd Herman Show
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technocrats and tyrants everywhere. Now from
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the Emerald City exile Todd Herman.
Today is the day the Lord has made,

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and these are the times so which
God has decided we shall live.

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I'm excited to be joined by Nate
Lewis, founder and CEO of Innocence Rescue

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Mission, met through friends and a
pleasure to have you here. Thank you,

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nap sure, thank you for having
me. What drew you into this

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decision to get involved in such a
I mean, beautiful mission, but such

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a horrible line of work. Well, I started this foundation after years of

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doing this work internationally and seeing the
problem internationally and on just a devastating level.

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And I can share some of that. But I heard from the people

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here in the United States and working
with law enforcements in the United States what

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the issue was, why they weren't
able to fight this here. It's happening

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right here in the US. And
I decided, well, if the people

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want to do something about it,
but the police need the help. Why

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don't we unify the people and the
police. We've become the bridge that provides

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the grants to local law enforcement to
get them the training, the equipment that

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can do to fight this right here
inside the United States. So that's kind

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of But those are the mechanics.
What about tell me about your heart,

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something in your heart in me,
God called you did this, or something

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in the beating heart of who you
are. It wasn't It wasn't just the

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mechanics. It wasn't just the need
for Ruxtra support and partnership. Something you

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called to this. I would say
that at first it wasn't really a calling

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that I was aware of. God
designed this without a doubt, without me

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even knowing what I was getting myself
into. From an early childhood experience that

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I experienced that I had let go
of for thirty years, to another kidnapping

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experience that I personally went through.
I didn't even think about that until twenty

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years later, when I'm here working
in the space and going, oh,

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that's why I went through that back
then, yeah, and identifying that,

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Oh, now I know why I'm
here, where I'm at, and how

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I got here, even though I
don't even know why I'm here. I'm

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here and it makes sense to me. So there's there's there's a compassion,

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a relatability, and an understanding to
what it's like to have your freedom taken

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from you and your life basically waved
in front of you and you have no

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control over that, and to be
abused by somebody that will affect you probably

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the rest of your life. God
does not call it equipped equips the cold.

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Amen. And you're one of the
few brothers I've met who can talk

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about kidnapping. I was temporarily kidnapped
when I was living in Seattle. Stupid,

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sloppy, lack of situational awareness.
Sat down in my car and even

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lunch at home, I noticed the
cops in the neighborhood, but I,

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like, I said, no situation, awaren I sat down in my car.

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There was a guy with a pistol
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the back seat smoke and crack wow. And I've told the story in the

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podcast. I won't belabor it.
But through the grace of God, I

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got out of that, largely because
when that woman sneezed, I said,

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God, bless you, and she
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and he'd asked me, told me, you're going to drive me into the

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project. I drove them near the
project, but I said, no,

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I'm I'm going to have to kill
me right here. I'm not taking into

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the projects. Wow, are You're
gonna have to do this here? So

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I'd like to hear about that part
of your journey, if you're willing to

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share that, And then I want
to get into you mentioned seeing this international

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work this internationally. I want people
to understand the gravity again that phrase sex

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traffic and what's awful. We've seen
the Sound of Freedom, Yep, I

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watched it too. We actually promoted
the movie. We had some of the

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principles of the movie on the program. But I want to get your experience

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in that on this very very intimate
basis, And are you willing to share

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a little bit about your kidnapping journey
and then what you saw internationally, and

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we'll talk about the Innocent Rescue mission, how we can help and how and

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there's some things going on where I
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But can you share the kidnapping store. Yeah, situational awareness you mentioned in

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your situation was most of what mine
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the wrong time, and being an
easy target. I was an easy target.

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Was in Los Angeles that was probably
a gang initiation, and it was

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a late night and it was in
the wrong place the wrong time, and

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a couple of guys I walk up
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chest, throw me into a car, and go for a joy ride.

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And I was at that point,
looking back now, I can say that

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I had to innately become one of
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of them. Yeah. Yeah,
it was almost like now we work in

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this undercover capacity, but it was
an undercover capacity to save my life in

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a sense. But I didn't choose
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fear of dying young my whole life, and I knew that, oh,

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this is the night. So I
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relaxed and just kind of and I
mean I could go into details. There

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are certain things like they kept threatening
me with the gun and all this stuff,

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and I finally just I was ready, and I told him, like,

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do it, you know, like
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lived such an incredible life up to
that point that I was ready to go.

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That was in my very early twenties
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freestyle wrapping making them laugh. I
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I was just doing things. I
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and I don't know. They took
a like to me. Actually I

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was making him laugh through some freestyle
wrapping, which I'm on a freestyle rapper

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right now, and they said,
you know what, white boy, you

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need a record lay. You may
walk tonight. And that was the first

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time I'm like, wait, I
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there's I actually might get out of
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it was a long, long girl
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up catching two of the three,
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being court and facing a couple of
them, and then my ten years

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of you know, situation works,
was that it's peak. You know,

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I was ready for the next time. They ended up meeting with the hostage

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and negotiator and like another professional who
trained and people were taking hostage and worked

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me through my fears because I was
being prepared for the next time, and

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I was very simple. He said, how like, what's the chances this

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happened to somebody. I was like
one in a million. He's like,

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come on, let's be real.
I was like one ten million. He's

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like, whatever, just go with
one in ten million. What's the chances

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that happened to the same person twice? I was like, oh, you

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ten years ago because I was.
I was so prepared everywhere I went,

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everything that I did, I was
ready for it to happen again. Yeah,

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gonna I've been prepared for ten years
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I become really because I was being
a dad. And then I don't

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know why. I mean, living
in the ghetto. We're not supposed to

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call it that. But after that, man, I was full on situation

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that where I still sweep my car. I'm careful about where I park.

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But I can tell you when I
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woman. First thing I said,
when we got to the car, we

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had the gun. He said,
you're gonna drive and I looked around.

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I said, Okay, are the
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he goes, what do you mean? I go, I got warrants?

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Man, Are they looking for you
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I said, so, yeah,
I'll drive, but be cool man,

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just relaxed because I do not need
to get popped. Wow. So like

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instinctively, I'm putting myself on his
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enemy. The cops are the common
enemy. And when we got to the

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housing project, and he'd said to
go into the project, and I know

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what's coming my way in the project, and it's not just getting capped,

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right, They're gonna have some fun
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I took the stand and I said, the lady said baby, he said,

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God bless you. When I sneeze
let him go, and I said,

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hey, what am I going to
do? Man? I'm I gonna

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call the cops. I got all
sorts of warrants. You think they're going

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to believe me that I was in
on whatever you did. They're going to

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think that you and I are partners. I can't go tell the cops,

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right, I'm as mine? Yeah, right, but that's a god given

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gifted right. God, God may
be a great liar, right that shall

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not lie. Astros said, wise
is the serpent centile as a dove.

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So you then internationally saw things,
you smelled things, you heard, things,

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you felt things that very few human
beings could come away unaffected from.

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So take us into that that internet
actual experience man us six months in and

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it changed my life. I'll say
that will preface it by saying that instance

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that I just shared. I never
wanted to murder those people, you know,

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when they asked me, like,
what's the sentence? And I wanted

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like a twenty foot fans for twenty
four hours ago. But I never wanted

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to actually take anyone's life. But
I ran into a situation in Northern Africa

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with these children that were being sacrificed
child sacrificed by these witch doctors, and

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we were going after these witch doctors, and they spent all this time with

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these different girls that were rescued and
these survivors that had just this incredible heart,

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and they were so full of joy. I mean, I quoted him

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this morning. You know, yesterday's
trials is today's testimony. This one girl

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shared with me. I was going
through all this stuff and having all these

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experiences really for the first time,
I'd never really been in the space.

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And then I went to this home
and I met this boy. They'd cut

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off his genitals in his hand and
split him open and left him for dead.

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And they found him and we were
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get have doctors meet with them and
that type of thing. But there was

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a home dedicated to children who've been
sacrificed. We went up under this mountain

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that had been converted now with a
cross on it, that was a sacred

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mountain that they went and sacrificed these
children at. It was just it's horrific.

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So I don't even know if I
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walk into this home, I mean, am I even tell the gallon with

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who is over all the aftercare,
she says, I said, I don't

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know if I can do this,
you know, I don't know. Like

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what I go in and these kids
laughter starts echoing off these cement walls and

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and their joy. And I at
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and a three or two year old, and they were just reminded me so

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much of even though they didn't speak
our language, they reminded me so much

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of my kids. It was just
it was just this amazing experience and this

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joy and this childlike thing that was
going on, even though they'd been through

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horrific stuff. There's a girl there
whose blood had been drained for years and

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they did all this other stuff to
her. She's paralyzed, but her name's

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Hope, and she just lays and
smiles, and like, I'm seeing I'm

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going through all these experiences, right, and I'm just like pretty traumatized by

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it. And I go back to
my hotel room that night, and I'm

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flooded with like thirty different emotions you
shouldn't be having at the same time,

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like anger, hate, guilt,
all this stuff, right, And I

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was so sad and mad, and
I hate bullies, and I felt like

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this was the most extreme form of
bullying I'd ever seen in my life.

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And something happened to me psychologically and
mentally I had never gone to before.

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But I was ready to hunt these
witch doctors down and like remove them from

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the planet, which was not even
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life. And I was concerned,
and I told my wife, I don't

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know what's going on, And eventually
that's put me into some therapy because I'd

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never went into that realm, you
know, of removing evil. I get

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it, I understand it, but
I didn't personally go there. And after

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that, and then that was the
beginning. That was six months inn and

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years after throughout the entire world of
different experience and different things, and the

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things that they're doing to kids out
there, forcing them to bay, removing

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their hands, child being raped online, you know, all these things their

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forced kids do. I mean,
it's it's almost a crime to ignore it.

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I couldn't agree more. I had
a friend of mine who did three

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tours in Afghanistan and he and a
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They ended up arresting men who had
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their face. And I mean his
commentary about that when he finally told me

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the story. I've heard this from
a couple guys before, but he said,

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yeah, they're still live. And
there was this look of regret in

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as I because hey, rules war, right, and he didn't do that,

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You didn't become the hatred, right, you didn't become the thing that you're

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hunting, right, And that's so
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think people aware that at least this
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economics of it, what's actually going
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anybody. So there's a link to
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Eatinpuredeals dot com use code Todd three. You and I were chatting before

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began the show, and we were
talking Nate about the economics of this,

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the cold economics of this that you
can use drugs once they have to go

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back and reproduce it. You can
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again, I want to go through
the economics, but I also want to

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make it very very clear to people
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United States is becoming a quote good
place to traffic kids, given what's going

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on in our cities, the decision
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there are areas. Any cop will
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cop that's a cartel area. This
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Ecuadorian cartels. Right, the hon
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Capito heal. They'll all tell you
this. So let's start with the economics

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and then the fact of sex trafficking
in America. Yeah, well, it's

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the fastest growing criminal enterprise in the
world due to the fact that it's extremely

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profitable. You're looking at as a
business investment, sell invest again, sell

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invest again. Where in trafficking you
invest. Maybe if you do invest to

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a human being, then you're just
stealing a human yeah right, yeah,

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opposed to like kidnapping or falsely grooming
them into a lifestyle that they are now

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involved in and getting them addicted to
drugs. There's a whole gamut of things,

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but essentially you're not really investing every
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whatever it is, and it's just
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An average trafficer makes about a quarter
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of one trafficking, so one human
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in profit. Yeah, that's what
they're making off of them. So that's

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clear of the minimal costs that they
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to feed them and assume it's more
profitable not have them in captivity, have

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their mom and dad feed them.
You just traffic them on the side.

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Yeah, I mean, the they
tour around it's like being on a concert

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tour is tour of the US on
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There's all these sites. This is
when we get into what we do is

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really cool. Like there's a lot
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lightweb, which we are all on. Most people on social media and apps

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and stuff like that. But in
the dark web, there are many apps

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out there. There's many places that
are just to sell sex and they claim

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that you have to be nineteen you
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a box. And so there's these
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and we engage in through different forms
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it right here where we live northide
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Yeah, we did our first undercover
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an AD, so you post like, hey, I advertising my product on

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the site. Right within five days, we had two hundred and fifty people

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interested in this area. Mostly we're
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wanted to come across straight line.
Second is two hun and fifty people.

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Well this so the second time we
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four buyers. And then you're talking
about fourteen years old. So you're advertising

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the selling of a fourteen year old's
body for men to care out lushly,

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fleshly, sinful desires. And that
quick, there's men that actively searching for

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this. Oh, very quick,
very quick. You're talking within twenty four

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hours sixty people. Here's what's even
more mind blowing, and some of this

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has already got leaked out into the
press, and we're trying to not let

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it get leaked out because we don't
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kind of a little late, and
we're here now too. But we uh,

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we did an eleven year old recently, and I think you might have

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seen this article, but yeah,
KHQ did this, right, Yeah,

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and so so when you did an
eleven year old, you advertised an eleven

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year old person for sale. Yeah
that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, we advertised anyway. And
so I was kind of debating with

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my team like is that too young? This and that, and we're like,

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oh whatever, they're going to come
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year old, and we did,
and it was it blew my mind.

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And let me just tell you this. I think this is important for the

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audience to know too. I've been
doing this for years, mostly international,

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and I've seen some insane stuff,
the acid stuff one of my friends that

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I'm now friends with, I've seen
a lot of insane things. I knew

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it was happening in the United States, but I can't tell you how often

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I'm shocked here in the United States, my hometown of less than fifty thousand

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people, we did the same ad. Within twenty four hours, we had

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fifty five different buyers of a fourteen
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things that are shocking to me,
a eleven year old, where people are

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reaching out and showing up and getting
arrested. But to me, even my

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mind couldn't really comprehend, like,
really, this is happening, This prevalent

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right here in our town, in
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what also is blowing my mind.
And you can see these every week.

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Yesterday there was another one that came
out. These guys who are successful bankers,

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doctors, real estate agents, whatever, they're getting caught. They're not

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the kids in the park with the
backpack selling meth. You know, these

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are successful people. You know how
much it costs for thirty minutes with an

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eleven year old? Praise God,
have no idea? Yeah, two hundred

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and fifty dollars and fifty people for
an hour. Do you know what it

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costs overnight? One thousand dollars overnight. Yeah, And we had a guy

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who wanted two eleven year olds overnight
for two thousand dollars he's a single guy,

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not married, no kids, with
the pool at his house, is

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going to have fun. He's gonna
get him a drunk and even says,

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you don't worry, you won't remember
what's going to happen. Two thousand dollars.

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So do you think that this is
like some poor person's addiction. No,

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no, well no, like sin
knows, no bounds right on the

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righteous side of thing. God rains
down the common blessings on the evil and

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the good so called good no notice, we're good. But no, I

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don't. And here's what's so remarkable
to me, Isa, I hear you

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tell this story. There are people
who would tell you, oh, there's

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there's no big rings of sex traffickers, there's no I'm sorry if you have,

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I mean, if you have billions
of dollars and you've fallen into what

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I think is porn, I definitely
think this is demonic and porn is giving

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you this insane sexual appetite that now
there's no bottom, nothing's nothing's extreme enough.

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And you've got a billion dollars,
Why would you not create a ring?

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And why would you not you know, get your own kids. You're

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a business person. Why are you
continuing to rent kids when you can own

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kids. So no, I don't
think it's a poor person's thing. The

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I didn't know about the economics.
And in a small town, you would

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gosh, I would think that you
would think, gosh, this is a

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small town. If I'm going to
go do this, maybe I should arrange

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a business trip or a hunting trip
or something. Oh that happens too,

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Yeah, right, okay, I
think I think what's important to know about

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the small towns is that there's no
risk. So mean, there's no risk

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in a small town. So an
app large town like Seattle, Los Angeles,

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Chicago, Dallas, something like that, they might have a task force

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with at least one or two or
maybe five people maybe dedicated to these child

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crimes. In small towns, they
have seven drug task force officers but zero

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child crimes officers. So where are
you going to spend your time as a

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criminal selling drugs when it's more lucrative
to have another form of business and there's

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no risk and there's no risk.
So that's the other thing. Well,

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we don't really want the press to
know about it because we don't want them

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to know that there's risk because they're
sloppy when they don't think there's risk.

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So what we're trying to do is
how do we create risk? And I've

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seen this, we know when we
used to go into tourist island towns and

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we'd dismantle them and they would leak
out across the entire island. Twenty one

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guys arrested, forty two girls,
we rescue, blah blahlah whatever it was

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for about six months, you can
find somebody to have sex with there on

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that island, right, I mean
it was like, I'm not going to

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prison for the rest of my life, right, So it actually created risk

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too. So there's that component in
piece two. But for us, you

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know, and we can get into
the mechanics of what we actually do.

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But we're trying to one create risk, but we're trying to put away these

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guys and not just the rest guys, but we're trying to build solid cases

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because what's really important law enforcement is
the conviction rate, right, and then

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the length of sentencing, because if
you arrest a guy but your case sucks

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and they walk out with a misdemeanor
or slap on the risk or two months

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probation, as a waste of everyone's
time. Yeah, and the guys right

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back out on the street right well, and then you have insane places like

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I call it the Separate Country of
Washington or California, where they'll slap on

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the risk guys like that. But
I mean, and we'll talk about this.

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I hope they are normalizing grooming to
a degree. I talked to one

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of your colleagues who did Crime Stoppers
International, and Jim told me, yeah,

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that the pornographic sex said they're doing. You better belie, that's a

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groomer's dream because it normalizes that.
So we'll continue this conversation get into specifically

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what you do. Imde a guess
that you probably you might be one of

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the few people who knows what the
bone frog is. Bone frog is the

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sign of a fall and Navy seal. So we on this program. One

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of the things that we do is
we take commercial place or partnership spots for

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companies who traditionally couldn't afford to step
in and buy this with us. And

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in this case it happens, I
get the great fun of working with a

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dear friend of mine. Tim Crookshank, retired Navy Seal Buds instructor, did

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three tours for us, and he
calls himself a medic, So please don't

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send me the email say it's a
corman. I know, but this is

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what Tim says. So I'll let
Tim decide how he's referred to. He

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came home to the world and he
started bone Frog in order to provide for

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his family and to just never forget
the brothers who fell. That's why I

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called it bone Frog. He didn't
go out and say which a lot of

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people do. Man. They go
like, hey, let's just private label

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some drink coffee. Let's put a
cool brand on it. And soldiers are

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cool, and you know, special
teams. Guys are cool. That's what

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he did. He recruited a guy
named Dave Stewart who started Seattle's Best Coffee.

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He's a legend in the coffee business. He should be Howard Schultz.

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When he took the company public,
was basically forced to buy Sale's Best Coffee

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because the coffee's actually good. So
he recruited Dave, who makes some of

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the roasts and in fact mentors the
team. Every bag says God Country Team

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on it. So here's my infredation
to you. If you are new to

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bone Frog, go get the six
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French roast, whatever you want,
French press, whatever you want,

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drip, it's all there. Try
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get ten percent off your first purchase. Now, if you are drinking the

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Frog, you know what I'm talking
about. It's great coffee. If you're

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not upgraded a subscription, I'm just
gonna tell you, I'm going to find

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out who you are, and I'm
gonna call Tim and he'll send some team

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guys out and then you're gonna subscribe
right on the spot. Maybe not that,

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but go to Bonefrog Coffee dot com
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off subscription coffee. It's bone Frog
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do you actually do? I mean, there's a lot to this, but

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what do you actually do? Yeah, So we have a three tier approach.

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00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:17,279
So we protect and preserve the innocence
of children from sex trafficking, online

409
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:22,799
exploitation, and sexual abuse. And
so those are the three angles everyone knows

410
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,319
now or seems to be that everybody
knows and wants to talk about trafficking,

411
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,680
and so we focus on that that's
more of an organized crime piece and component.

412
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,920
But how we work as we train
and equip law enforcement with the tools

413
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,839
that they need to go out and
the techniques and tactics with the state of

414
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:44,640
the art technology that we've developed but
I can't talk about publicly. But how

415
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,119
it works is we figure, how
do we teach people a department how to

416
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,279
fish and give them the equipment to
fish and let them go fish, and

417
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000
then we can move on and they
can continue to fish. And that's how

418
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,079
we're going to scale this. So
essentially, we're we're doing online investigations.

419
00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,039
We're meeting the department wherever they are. If they've started doing this, they

420
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,680
just don't know specific chat with sites
and how to create these accounts and blah

421
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,640
blah blah. We can we can
come in give them all the equipment they

422
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,039
need. Some of the equipment is
very expensive equipment, so we can go

423
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,359
in there and get them up to
speed or get them more efficient and more

424
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,599
effective. And if they're already doing
this and they want to get more the

425
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:19,720
organized crime part of it, which
is following the money, then we can

426
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:25,039
bring them up to speed wherever they
are in their journey as far as building

427
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,839
a team or a task force or
a couple of detectives or whatever it is.

428
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,160
And so that's what we do.
And all my team is active duty

429
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,680
law enforcement. We have a guy
who's with a federal agency as well,

430
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:41,599
and so they're all active duty,
which is really cool because they can write

431
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:47,079
search warrants they can't, right,
you know. And so and that's what

432
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,359
we want to do. And I
think it's important also for everybody to know

433
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:55,359
is that this year alone, there'll
be about three hundred and sixty thousand children

434
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,039
that are sexually abused. Right,
they're not all trafficked, but there's a

435
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:00,039
lot of sexual abuse. I want
to go back to what you were talking

436
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:03,559
about with the porn industry and all
that stuff. So what we're really good

437
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:08,039
at doing is identifying patterns of life
and watching the behavior of a human where

438
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,759
they start and what does it lead
to and where does it go from there?

439
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,599
Right, So, if you understand
where a human may be downloading,

440
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:22,680
trading child porn, eventually that addiction, which you know, the entry level

441
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:27,119
might for drugs is maybe marijuana or
whatever prescription drugs, eventually leads to herointer

442
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,640
math or whatever it may be.
But porn is the kind of marijuana stage

443
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,480
in a sense, to where the
dopamine hits eventually aren't hitting, and then

444
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,880
they have to go younger, and
then they have to actually go to physical

445
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,720
abuse, and that physical abuse usually
tends to at first go to, well,

446
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,759
I'll just go pay for it right
and then, and maybe not always,

447
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,440
I'm just giving you some scenarios.
Also, it can just go to

448
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,119
like, well, why am I
paying for it right now? Like this

449
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,359
girl happens to be in the wrong
place at the wrong time, And there's

450
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,599
a case here locally in this actually
not far from here where you know,

451
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,000
they caught a guy, a guy
on my team caught a guy for having

452
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,960
a lot of child porn, and
that in that first little while, this

453
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,720
is an interesting psychological part of all
this. But in that first moment,

454
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:19,160
they're they're addicted like an alcoholic to
alcohol right like or to a drug,

455
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:22,680
and they hide it from their family, they hide it from everybody they know

456
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:29,960
that they're a closet sex aholic or
child poor anaholic. They've tried cold turkey,

457
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,039
they've done all these things, and
then now they've been arrested, and

458
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:37,160
in that first little window they're like, oh, at first they don't understand

459
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,920
the reality of what's about to happen. They're like, finally I'm going to

460
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,799
finish and quit this addiction. My
wife's going to know, my kids are

461
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,119
gonna know, my work's gonna know. Let's say, I'm gonna get rid

462
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,880
of it. Right, So they're
in a weird spot until they realize they're

463
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,920
about to go to jail for a
long time. But in that window,

464
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,519
my team member asked, have you
ever physically abused the child? And he

465
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,000
was like, well, there's this
one time I was how I'm a friend

466
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,440
of a friend build a deck and
it was money and they didn't want me

467
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,359
to go inside use the bathroom,
so I said, you the RV.

468
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,200
Well, they had his kids were
there, and the kid's friends were there,

469
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,480
and I go into the trailer and
this cute little girl happened to be

470
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,240
in there while I was in there, and my addiction came over me,

471
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:21,799
and so it overcame me. And
so if we can intervene before she ever

472
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:25,799
he ever would have even been in
that trailer to get to that girl,

473
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,519
that's where we that's where we want
to be, or we want to get

474
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:32,519
there before his one hundred and seventeenth
victim. And the reason I use that

475
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:36,240
number is because on average, one
of these perpetrators will abuse one hundred and

476
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:40,680
seventeen victims in their lifetime. There
are people watching and are listening who've been

477
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,960
abused, and God loves you,
and you didn't do anything wrong and he

478
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:55,880
can can't rescue you, and that
doesn't define who you are not at all.

479
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:02,880
And talking about it, being with
people who've been through it and processing

480
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,839
it, you can and God,
believe or not, can use that pain

481
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,400
for good. Amen, right,
for for sure? Right, So that

482
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,599
could verge into like a thought crime
thing you're describing, But I get where

483
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:20,079
you're going in this trajectory. So
you can actually get in front of a

484
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:24,000
guy and his decisions across that line. Have you actually successfully gotten in front

485
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,880
of a guy and said, uh, like you're gonna stop because child porn

486
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,119
is illegal, images of kids being
raped is illegal, So you've actually gotten

487
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:38,480
ahead of the decision someone might have
made to go change a kid's life potentially.

488
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,960
Yeah, we're in a case right
now where well, actually there are

489
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,839
a couple of cases right now where
we arrested a guy who showed up to

490
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,240
have sex with a little child.
Who has children girls living in his home

491
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:55,000
good God step children or soon to
be step children. And when the fiance

492
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,559
or wife finds out he went to
meet up with a twelve year old,

493
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:00,759
then they have an eleven year old
and a nine year old at home,

494
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:07,720
she flips her lid and so then
unfortunately, we have to do an interview

495
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:14,039
with the mom and with the children. And it's said that thirteen is usually

496
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:16,720
when they come out and a young
child doesn't know that, oh, is

497
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:21,759
this wrong? Being raped by my
step dad or whatever? Is this wrong?

498
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,640
They don't know and how he went
about it. Who knows how that

499
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,640
process worked until they discover they're like, you know what that was wrong?

500
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,799
Well? Right, And there's that
that I've talked to people who've have been

501
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:38,039
raising the circumstances, and there's this
gut feeling that it's wrong. But then

502
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,920
that gets confused with well, I
don't like it when my mom tells me

503
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,440
to mold lawn, and I don't
like it when I have to do homework,

504
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,480
and so maybe this is just another
circumstances. Maybe this is the thing

505
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,759
a kid has to go through.
Right, I've talked to kids because of

506
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,000
the thing we went through with our
with our family, and I want to

507
00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:00,920
get to I want to get to
the more common, less dramatic being snatched

508
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,920
off the street like you were,
or you know, I was. It

509
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,280
does happen, but i'm I'm I
think that maybe the more common, and

510
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,719
you'll tell me if I'm wrong,
is the Hey, working bit by bit

511
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,360
by bit. You're the most beautiful
girl I've ever met. Your parents don't

512
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,679
get you, your wives beyond your
years. I can help you have some

513
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,119
independence, and hey, I love
you. And then hey, there's that

514
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,559
night where I beat the garbage out
of you, but hey, look you

515
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,199
made me do it, and now
we got to make up. And what

516
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,800
did they call that? The grilla
beatdowns? Something like that, So we'll

517
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,320
talk about that. When I went
down to Mexico, I was talking to

518
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,840
people who live there about the sex
trafficking problem there, and they really localize

519
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,280
it. The locals to Northern Mexico's
far worse than southern Mexico. Was in

520
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,639
Port of Arta, and part of
art has sort of protected. It has

521
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:53,639
these mountain ranges and there's basically two
ways out mountain roads through the jungle,

522
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,599
or you fly or you get on
a boat. So it's a little bit

523
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:00,960
easier to protect. Plus I've got
seven police forces now. When I was

524
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:06,280
down there, I was at Renew
Healthcare, and I had the opportunity to

525
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:12,000
watch people who've had their lives well, just rescued in a way, like

526
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,840
if you're someone who'said chronic black pain
and they keep telling you, well,

527
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,679
the next surgery, or it's going
to be surgery, or you've had chronic

528
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,639
arthritis, or you're someone like me
and Nate try to stay active and that

529
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:29,159
comes at a cost at our age. Two shoulder surgeries side by side analysis

530
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,039
surgery one and I left surgery.
I left shoulder. It looked like forty

531
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:36,239
two weeks to regain normal function.
I had my pull ups and push us

532
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,599
back in twelve weeks after going to
Renew and getting the ethically gathered stem cells

533
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:45,000
that come from umbilical cords and placentas. Absolutely no abortion in my case.

534
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,840
I chose the strain that is,
no exposure to the modified RNA injections.

535
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,559
Although a couple of doctors I met
said, hey, Wharton's jelly probably can't

536
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,480
transmit that SUFFERMI injection. Call me
paranoid. I did that, But I

537
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:01,840
saw people who were told well,
you're not going to walk again, well,

538
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,719
hemispherically paralyzed. But the stem cells
got in and fight the inflammation and

539
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,519
rebuild the portion of the body that's
been so injured. That's the incredible miracle

540
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,960
of these stem cells that have no
assigned duty. They assigned themselves the duty

541
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,800
when they get into your body.
You can elevate your quality of life by

542
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,840
elevating your healthcare. Go to renew
dot Healthcare with any medical circumstance and they'll

543
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,119
tell you if hey thumbs up the
thumbs down, we can help. And

544
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,039
they'll even tell you, like,
hey, percentage of chance this works for

545
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:35,039
you. I wanted to have the
treatment before shoulder surgery because I would have

546
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,800
liked not to been cut open.
They said, not tide, You're gonna

547
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,760
have to have the surgery, but
we could help you heal. It's renew

548
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:45,840
dot Healthcare. So that common I
worked with, gave money and got to

549
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,440
know some of the guys at the
Genesis Project in Seattle. Their active duty

550
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,400
cops. They created a deal.
When they busted a woman or a girl

551
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,719
on that day, they'd make that
charge disappear, no paperwork. You're gone,

552
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,360
right, we take you out of
the circumstance and in a couple hours

553
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,679
you're at a safe house in another
state with a new name, Beautiful Project.

554
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:15,039
But they're the one who educated me
into that process of just loving on

555
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,800
these kids that they see in the
mall And am I right? They're going

556
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,159
places like that And hey, here's
a girl who stand office. She's not

557
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:23,400
fitting in with the others, stilled
man, She'll fit in with me.

558
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:30,920
Yes. I want to touch on
several pieces of this, but I would

559
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,960
say to take it to the reality
is that ninety percent of people who are

560
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,840
developmentally challenged or delayed developmentally will be
sexually abused in our lifetime. In fifty

561
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,719
percent of those will be sexually abused
ten times in their lifetime. They're praying

562
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:53,960
not just emotionally or distraught people children
whose parents are divorced. They're posting how

563
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:58,119
sad life is and how they hate
boys and all that stuff. Yes,

564
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:04,920
and they're praying on people who are
actually physically disabled physically and mentally. Yes,

565
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,159
it's insanity. It's one of the
things that gets me the most.

566
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,119
And there's something local happening here too, but I'm not gonna get into that.

567
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,800
What I think is important in this
topic that you're talking about when you're

568
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,079
talking about how common it works,
you're talking about earlier, grabbing, Snag,

569
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,360
the movie Taken, all that stuff. It happens. But I'm gonna

570
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,719
tell you what's insane and what every
single parent needs to know if they have

571
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,280
children, especially girls, your social
media apps, it's a one hundred percent

572
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,039
guarantee guaranteed. If it's a public
app and they're a young girl and they're

573
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:44,599
not even barely somewhat putting themselves up
there, just being a normal kid,

574
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,159
they will be approached guaranteed online.
And I have a ton of stats,

575
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:53,159
but I believe it's one in three
children will be approached and solicited for sex

576
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:59,800
online before they turn eighteen. That's
insane. That's online we have seen.

577
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:02,320
And these are like the biggest social
media apps in the world. I'm not

578
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,159
going to throw them all their names
out there, but I'm sure you know.

579
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,960
And there's one in particular, and
we have tons of case studies on

580
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,280
this. You create a profile,
you're fourteen years old and all this stuff,

581
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,800
and the next thing you know,
you got guys spending you messages and

582
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,039
pictures. And it's not even like
some of them aren't even like walking their

583
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,519
toes into the water. They just
jump right in rate my junk, send

584
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:28,119
a picture, and that's the part
of the innocence onion. The is just

585
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,679
peeled away. And that's some of
the things that we approach too, is

586
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,960
how do we go after those guys
that are exploiting these children online, because

587
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,519
you know what they're doing. They're
creating these accounts, they're becoming people that

588
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:39,199
aren't real, and they're fifty year
old men, let's just say, who

589
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,320
are way smarter than a fourteen year
old boy. They're telling them things that

590
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,280
they've never heard before. They're giving
them the attention their dad doesn't give them.

591
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,320
They're give the attention the boys don't
give them. They're giving them all

592
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,519
the attention that they've ever wanted and
desired, and they're getting it. And

593
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:54,760
they think that it's a fourteen year
old boy. And then they're just saying,

594
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,280
hey, yeah, well, who
about any pictures of you and your

595
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,280
friends by the pool. Well,
the girl, that's innocent. We are

596
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,000
in public in our bathing suits,
nothing wrong with that. Here's some pictures

597
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:07,280
of me at fourteen in my bathing
suit. That guy, that's how he

598
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,920
slowly starts to take those photos and
they'll sells them online. Then becomes more

599
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,880
and more and more to the point
where they it's insane. Some of the

600
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,159
stories where you're like, how did
you fall for this? It's like it's

601
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:21,679
like the senior citizen's falling for the
scamming call. It's the same thing,

602
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,559
but for our children. And it's
what's incredible. I think parents need to

603
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:29,960
know is that we are a different
generation. We didn't grow up with this,

604
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:31,800
so we don't know how to teach
our kids not to do certain things.

605
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,280
They're teaching us about social media technology
and it's changing all the time.

606
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,079
We also we also don't understand,
like it was very easy when I was

607
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,679
a kid, like, Hey,
there's a weird dude at the playground,

608
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,920
shouldn't doesn't look like he belongs here, don't talk to him, stay away

609
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,719
from them. MODA. These strangers
are in your house, behind your child's

610
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,880
closed door, to their bedroom,
coming through their phone. That's scary to

611
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me. And they're everywhere, yeah, you know everywhere. Back in the

612
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:07,599
day when I was I'd sold my
internet radio company and I was trying to

613
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:13,760
figure out what to do next and
doing some consulting and spending time in Hollywood.

614
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,159
I was helping talent agencies and movie
stutis figure out streaming media. And

615
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:23,360
it is before I went to Microsoft. Someone turned me on something called cam

616
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,039
Horse, So this was back there. It was called that was the website

617
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:35,280
cam Horse, and girls would go
there and I mean, it's basically only

618
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,760
fans before only fans became a thing. And I wanted to write an article

619
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,159
about this, and because at the
time I was doing some writing, just

620
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:46,800
trying to keep my profile out there, and I contacted one of the girls

621
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,559
and said, hey, like,
I didn't see naked pictures of ever.

622
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:55,119
Thank God. I last time I
looked at pornography was probably twenty five years

623
00:41:55,159 --> 00:42:00,679
ago. Praise God that that he
took that from me. And part of

624
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,599
it was understanding that, hey,
if you're looking at porn, congratulations,

625
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:07,079
you're probably looking at someone who's been
sex traffic. You're probably watching a rape,

626
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,239
not to mention the fact that you
are separating yourself from God, not

627
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,000
to mention the fact that it's sin, it's adultery, it's all these things.

628
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:17,320
You're driving the economics sex trafficking.
So last time I could ever look

629
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,639
at porn was then, and I
was at that stage where I was looking

630
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,920
at porn, thank god, And
she said, yeah, I'll talk about

631
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what I do. So came to
find out she lived in her parents' house.

632
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,400
She did this upstairs and I remember
her name. Stephanie said well,

633
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,920
but Stephanie, someone could find you. Oh no, no, they couldn't.

634
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:45,840
And Nate it took me maybe thirty
five minutes to go back to her

635
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:52,559
and say, here's where you work, this is when you go to class,

636
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:58,360
and this is where you live.
And this was prior to Google Earth.

637
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,519
Man, this is probably before or
all the technology we have now,

638
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,599
right, And this is just going
through and looking at social streams and comments

639
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:12,280
and pictures. Look at that.
And she went back and said, oh,

640
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,480
you're freaking me out, like this
is spooky now. I'm like,

641
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,800
yeah, but I'm just a writer. Ye I am not someone who's intent

642
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,599
unharming somebody that risk. People will
say, oh, well, you're just

643
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:31,840
trying to scare No, because that
a child can be changed when someone cons

644
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,599
him into giving a naked picture and
they know that a stranger has a picture,

645
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:38,199
and that then moves into I need
you to do some things on video

646
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,519
for me, right, and I
need you to continue to do this or

647
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:45,800
I'm going to show your mom and
dad. Oh yeah, that's clastic.

648
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:53,079
And when people are doing that and
the parents learn, what is that like

649
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:02,360
when parents realize my angel I I
know what the male viewership of and listenership

650
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,480
to this podcast to say is okay, now I'll kill m What's that like

651
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:13,239
when a when a family realizes that
in our home, in your bedroom with

652
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:19,079
the stuffed animals. Yeah, I
think shock. I would say a lot

653
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:23,599
of parents are heartbroken or they're guilty
because they didn't know what was going on.

654
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:32,079
Shock. People don't realize it's happened. Yeah, you know, what's

655
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,800
the what's the protection scheme? I
mean to me, if I could do

656
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,599
life again, when my little girl
came and said and and and moved me

657
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:44,840
into getting her phone, I would
have locked the whole thing down. Now

658
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:49,400
I know that there are helpful friends
who give kids unlocked cell phones with access

659
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,239
to their parents accounts because their parents
don't even keep track of it. So

660
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:57,519
what do you suggest for parents?
I think, you know, coming from

661
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:00,519
from our standpoint, we're trying to
protect and preserve of innocence. So innocence

662
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:04,599
is the most important piece. So
that's the angle we come from. It

663
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:07,679
at and you've got to there's several
angles. You got to have a real

664
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,960
relationship with your children, right,
and then you got to have an honest

665
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,679
one. This is the most difficult
conversation to have with your child is phone,

666
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,280
social media, that type of thing. As men, whether you're married

667
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,639
or divorced, it doesn't matter.
As the father, you need to be

668
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,400
present in your daughter's life, and
you need to give them the attention that

669
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,800
they need and desire, because if
you don't, they're going to seek it

670
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,559
out somewhere else. So that's an
important component of all this. I think

671
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:39,239
having private accounts is very important.
When we talk about innocence, and I

672
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,159
use the onion layer, there's very
few things you can do to protect your

673
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,519
child if there accounts open, because
guys can send them anything. And when

674
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:52,159
you talk about a guy just sending
an explicit picture off the bat, the

675
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,159
first message, a layer of innocence
was just removed from your child. And

676
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,800
so I would say, have real
conversations. I think the kids need to

677
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,400
get educated. That's another thing that
we're doing. We're working with school resource

678
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,800
officers developing program because the school resource
office is already in the schools. Everybody

679
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,119
wants to educate the parents, which
is very important to educate the parents,

680
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:16,760
But how does the parent then educate
the child on a very difficult topic.

681
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,639
So how do we the children are
the targets, right, So we have

682
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,639
to go and educate the children first. Yeah, and that's really what it's

683
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:30,320
going to come down to, is
protecting them as parents. Have that relationship

684
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,559
so that you can be open with
what they're doing and what's going on,

685
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:38,079
and have these conversations that those don't
believe get educated on what is happening.

686
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,400
The person that you think is giving
you all that information may not actually be

687
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,599
that. Don't ever tell your child
should never send photos of themselves anywhere on

688
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:50,800
the internet. Those will be out
there forever. Yep, you know.

689
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,719
So couldn't agree more. And I
would say this, if you know the

690
00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:00,239
school your kid is in is teaching
the perverse pornographic sex ad get them out.

691
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:08,639
I can't homeschool. You can have
a kid who's been who's seen grooming

692
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:15,639
normalized. I would tell you this, they're better being unschooled in schooled than

693
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:21,559
that, And you need to investigate
your schools. I hate to get off

694
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,199
on a tangent because that can be
a tangent, but having seen what I

695
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,599
saw when this stuff was installed in
Washington State, and having had Jim Feu

696
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,199
to tell me, oh yeah,
oh, not only is this a sex

697
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:37,440
traffickers dream, it's a groomer's dream, it's a rapist dream. Because all

698
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,159
of a sudden that you know,
you talk about the innocence onion. This

699
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,480
is my teacher who says this is
okay. So there's a lot more to

700
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:49,199
this conversation. We're going to have
a friend of yours on who's organizing a

701
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,320
visibility event a rock in North Idaho
to bring some visibility to this. I

702
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,639
intend if the dates work, to
be there and we'll talk about that later.

703
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,719
And how do people help you?
Guys? Anything we can do to

704
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,679
help you. But we're a nonprofit, so we're based on the funding of

705
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:07,880
the people. It's really the people
supporting their local police. So we can

706
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,760
really put your money to work in
your community. So our website irmission dot

707
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,440
org you can follow us on iron
Mission is our social media links where we're

708
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,280
going to be providing stats but also
those tips, tricks, techniques, that

709
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,960
kind of thing where you can kind
of get a little small soundbites of how

710
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,719
you can protect and preserve the innocence
of your children. You know, we

711
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:36,440
do events around the country where we
try to raise money for the local law

712
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:39,119
enforcement because it's important for us to
keep that money local, not just in

713
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,840
the United States, which one hundred
percent of what we do in the United

714
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,679
States. But my idea behind all
this is how do we in North Idaho

715
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:52,920
fund the North Idaho police departments to
protect the North Idaho children and my children

716
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:55,800
And a lot of people want to
do that, and so you can.

717
00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:01,000
You can send an email info at
iro mission and we can arrange a fundraiser

718
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,280
for you for your community. Send
out QR codes. We can do a

719
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,920
lot of stuff for you to help
protect the children in your community as well.

720
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:14,639
So so well organized, well God
characteristic can do what he's doing equipping

721
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:17,199
the cold. So appreciate you,
brother. Thank you for coming on your

722
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:20,800
mission. Will have you back all
right, all right? Oh Lord,

723
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,559
thank you for a wise wisdom of
new friends and for the ability to defend

724
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:29,719
innocence for all you did say in
one of your harshest statements, Lord Jesus

725
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,800
said, those who come between me
and the little ones will wish someone had

726
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,960
tied a millstone around their neck and
toss them into the ocean. So when

727
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,119
God says a thing, it's already
happened. And if you are tempted to

728
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:45,760
harm a child, if this show
didn't stop it, how about eternity in

729
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,960
hell? This is the Todd Herman
show. Please go, be well,

730
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,079
be strong, be kind, and
make every effort to walk in the light

731
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:53,599
of Christ.
