It's an easy thing to say the phrase sex trafficking. It's much harder to
meet people who've been through it. When we went through our three year journey
through teen and family adolescent mental health, I met a girl who was sex
trafficked twice. She then kidnapped twice. Last trip put her in the back
of a truck for several months, not knowing where she was and being abused
in unspeakable ways. That's the human portion of this. The economic portion of
this communicates a coldness that most people are able to operate in, a blistful
sense of lack of awareness. Nate Lewis, the founder and CEO of Innocence
Rescue Mission, doesn't have that luxury because he's in the business of helping to
rescue people. Rescue innocence. You hear about sex trafficking from an angle that
most people have never heard about it. We'll do that with the help of
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technocrats and tyrants everywhere. Now from the high mountains of Free America, here's
the Emerald City exile Todd Herman. Today is the day the Lord has made,
and these are the times so which God has decided we shall live.
I'm excited to be joined by Nate Lewis, founder and CEO of Innocence Rescue
Mission, met through friends and a pleasure to have you here. Thank you,
nap sure, thank you for having me. What drew you into this
decision to get involved in such a I mean, beautiful mission, but such
a horrible line of work. Well, I started this foundation after years of
doing this work internationally and seeing the problem internationally and on just a devastating level.
And I can share some of that. But I heard from the people
here in the United States and working with law enforcements in the United States what
the issue was, why they weren't able to fight this here. It's happening
right here in the US. And I decided, well, if the people
want to do something about it, but the police need the help. Why
don't we unify the people and the police. We've become the bridge that provides
the grants to local law enforcement to get them the training, the equipment that
can do to fight this right here inside the United States. So that's kind
of But those are the mechanics. What about tell me about your heart,
something in your heart in me, God called you did this, or something
in the beating heart of who you are. It wasn't It wasn't just the
mechanics. It wasn't just the need for Ruxtra support and partnership. Something you
called to this. I would say that at first it wasn't really a calling
that I was aware of. God designed this without a doubt, without me
even knowing what I was getting myself into. From an early childhood experience that
I experienced that I had let go of for thirty years, to another kidnapping
experience that I personally went through. I didn't even think about that until twenty
years later, when I'm here working in the space and going, oh,
that's why I went through that back then, yeah, and identifying that,
Oh, now I know why I'm here, where I'm at, and how
I got here, even though I don't even know why I'm here. I'm
here and it makes sense to me. So there's there's there's a compassion,
a relatability, and an understanding to what it's like to have your freedom taken
from you and your life basically waved in front of you and you have no
control over that, and to be abused by somebody that will affect you probably
the rest of your life. God does not call it equipped equips the cold.
Amen. And you're one of the few brothers I've met who can talk
about kidnapping. I was temporarily kidnapped when I was living in Seattle. Stupid,
sloppy, lack of situational awareness. Sat down in my car and even
lunch at home, I noticed the cops in the neighborhood, but I,
like, I said, no situation, awaren I sat down in my car.
There was a guy with a pistol pointed at me and a woman in
the back seat smoke and crack wow. And I've told the story in the
podcast. I won't belabor it. But through the grace of God, I
got out of that, largely because when that woman sneezed, I said,
God, bless you, and she convinced her boyfriend to let me go,
and he'd asked me, told me, you're going to drive me into the
project. I drove them near the project, but I said, no,
I'm I'm going to have to kill me right here. I'm not taking into
the projects. Wow, are You're gonna have to do this here? So
I'd like to hear about that part of your journey, if you're willing to
share that, And then I want to get into you mentioned seeing this international
work this internationally. I want people to understand the gravity again that phrase sex
traffic and what's awful. We've seen the Sound of Freedom, Yep, I
watched it too. We actually promoted the movie. We had some of the
principles of the movie on the program. But I want to get your experience
in that on this very very intimate basis, And are you willing to share
a little bit about your kidnapping journey and then what you saw internationally, and
we'll talk about the Innocent Rescue mission, how we can help and how and
there's some things going on where I live in Idaho, where you live,
But can you share the kidnapping store. Yeah, situational awareness you mentioned in
your situation was most of what mine was and being in the wrong place at
the wrong time, and being an easy target. I was an easy target.
Was in Los Angeles that was probably a gang initiation, and it was
a late night and it was in the wrong place the wrong time, and
a couple of guys I walk up to me, put a gun on my
chest, throw me into a car, and go for a joy ride.
And I was at that point, looking back now, I can say that
I had to innately become one of them, and so I quickly became one
of them. Yeah. Yeah, it was almost like now we work in
this undercover capacity, but it was an undercover capacity to save my life in
a sense. But I didn't choose to do that. I actually had a
fear of dying young my whole life, and I knew that, oh,
this is the night. So I just let go of the fear and I
relaxed and just kind of and I mean I could go into details. There
are certain things like they kept threatening me with the gun and all this stuff,
and I finally just I was ready, and I told him, like,
do it, you know, like I already at that point, I'd
lived such an incredible life up to that point that I was ready to go.
That was in my very early twenties and anyways, I mean I was
freestyle wrapping making them laugh. I don't even know. Yeah, you know,
I was just doing things. I don't even know where it came from,
and I don't know. They took a like to me. Actually I
was making him laugh through some freestyle wrapping, which I'm on a freestyle rapper
right now, and they said, you know what, white boy, you
need a record lay. You may walk tonight. And that was the first
time I'm like, wait, I may walk tonight, Like, oh,
there's I actually might get out of this. Yeah, and then yeah,
it was a long, long girl story, and I ended up they ended
up catching two of the three, ended up going to court in Los Angeles,
being court and facing a couple of them, and then my ten years
of you know, situation works, was that it's peak. You know,
I was ready for the next time. They ended up meeting with the hostage
and negotiator and like another professional who trained and people were taking hostage and worked
me through my fears because I was being prepared for the next time, and
I was very simple. He said, how like, what's the chances this
happened to somebody. I was like one in a million. He's like,
come on, let's be real. I was like one ten million. He's
like, whatever, just go with one in ten million. What's the chances
that happened to the same person twice? I was like, oh, you
ten years ago because I was. I was so prepared everywhere I went,
everything that I did, I was ready for it to happen again. Yeah,
And I let go of that, like, oh, it's probably not
gonna I've been prepared for ten years for you. You know. It's funny.
I become really because I was being a dad. And then I don't
know why. I mean, living in the ghetto. We're not supposed to
call it that. But after that, man, I was full on situation
that where I still sweep my car. I'm careful about where I park.
But I can tell you when I was taken captive by those guys a man
woman. First thing I said, when we got to the car, we
had the gun. He said, you're gonna drive and I looked around.
I said, Okay, are the cops here for you or me? And
he goes, what do you mean? I go, I got warrants?
Man, Are they looking for you or they're looking for me. Nice And
I said, so, yeah, I'll drive, but be cool man,
just relaxed because I do not need to get popped. Wow. So like
instinctively, I'm putting myself on his side. So now we've got a common
enemy. The cops are the common enemy. And when we got to the
housing project, and he'd said to go into the project, and I know
what's coming my way in the project, and it's not just getting capped,
right, They're gonna have some fun before they cap you. And that's where
I took the stand and I said, the lady said baby, he said,
God bless you. When I sneeze let him go, and I said,
hey, what am I going to do? Man? I'm I gonna
call the cops. I got all sorts of warrants. You think they're going
to believe me that I was in on whatever you did. They're going to
think that you and I are partners. I can't go tell the cops,
right, I'm as mine? Yeah, right, but that's a god given
gifted right. God, God may be a great liar, right that shall
not lie. Astros said, wise is the serpent centile as a dove.
So you then internationally saw things, you smelled things, you heard, things,
you felt things that very few human beings could come away unaffected from.
So take us into that that internet actual experience man us six months in and
it changed my life. I'll say that will preface it by saying that instance
that I just shared. I never wanted to murder those people, you know,
when they asked me, like, what's the sentence? And I wanted
like a twenty foot fans for twenty four hours ago. But I never wanted
to actually take anyone's life. But I ran into a situation in Northern Africa
with these children that were being sacrificed child sacrificed by these witch doctors, and
we were going after these witch doctors, and they spent all this time with
these different girls that were rescued and these survivors that had just this incredible heart,
and they were so full of joy. I mean, I quoted him
this morning. You know, yesterday's trials is today's testimony. This one girl
shared with me. I was going through all this stuff and having all these
experiences really for the first time, I'd never really been in the space.
And then I went to this home and I met this boy. They'd cut
off his genitals in his hand and split him open and left him for dead.
And they found him and we were going to meet with that boy to
get have doctors meet with them and that type of thing. But there was
a home dedicated to children who've been sacrificed. We went up under this mountain
that had been converted now with a cross on it, that was a sacred
mountain that they went and sacrificed these children at. It was just it's horrific.
So I don't even know if I can go do this. As I
walk into this home, I mean, am I even tell the gallon with
who is over all the aftercare, she says, I said, I don't
know if I can do this, you know, I don't know. Like
what I go in and these kids laughter starts echoing off these cement walls and
and their joy. And I at the time had had a one month old
and a three or two year old, and they were just reminded me so
much of even though they didn't speak our language, they reminded me so much
of my kids. It was just it was just this amazing experience and this
joy and this childlike thing that was going on, even though they'd been through
horrific stuff. There's a girl there whose blood had been drained for years and
they did all this other stuff to her. She's paralyzed, but her name's
Hope, and she just lays and smiles, and like, I'm seeing I'm
going through all these experiences, right, and I'm just like pretty traumatized by
it. And I go back to my hotel room that night, and I'm
flooded with like thirty different emotions you shouldn't be having at the same time,
like anger, hate, guilt, all this stuff, right, And I
was so sad and mad, and I hate bullies, and I felt like
this was the most extreme form of bullying I'd ever seen in my life.
And something happened to me psychologically and mentally I had never gone to before.
But I was ready to hunt these witch doctors down and like remove them from
the planet, which was not even in my dictionary at that time in my
life. And I was concerned, and I told my wife, I don't
know what's going on, And eventually that's put me into some therapy because I'd
never went into that realm, you know, of removing evil. I get
it, I understand it, but I didn't personally go there. And after
that, and then that was the beginning. That was six months inn and
years after throughout the entire world of different experience and different things, and the
things that they're doing to kids out there, forcing them to bay, removing
their hands, child being raped online, you know, all these things their
forced kids do. I mean, it's it's almost a crime to ignore it.
I couldn't agree more. I had a friend of mine who did three
tours in Afghanistan and he and a small team. He was a team guy.
They ended up arresting men who had a capture girls and poured acid on
their face. And I mean his commentary about that when he finally told me
the story. I've heard this from a couple guys before, but he said,
yeah, they're still live. And there was this look of regret in
as I because hey, rules war, right, and he didn't do that,
And we're able to say, you know, dude, you won.
You didn't become the hatred, right, you didn't become the thing that you're
hunting, right, And that's so so difficult. And you know, I
think people aware that at least this podcast family is aware that this stuff is
going on in the United States, But I want to talk about the cold
economics of it, what's actually going on. And you know this better than
anybody. So there's a link to the Innocent's Rescue mission in the show notes.
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began the show, and we were talking Nate about the economics of this,
the cold economics of this that you can use drugs once they have to go
back and reproduce it. You can capture a human being use time. And
again, I want to go through the economics, but I also want to
make it very very clear to people we're becoming if I'm not mistaken, the
United States is becoming a quote good place to traffic kids, given what's going
on in our cities, the decision not to enforce laws to like in Seattle,
there are areas. Any cop will tell you you go roll with a
cop that's a cartel area. This is the Chinese cartel, This is the
Ecuadorian cartels. Right, the hon Durans kind of run the drug trade on
Capito heal. They'll all tell you this. So let's start with the economics
and then the fact of sex trafficking in America. Yeah, well, it's
the fastest growing criminal enterprise in the world due to the fact that it's extremely
profitable. You're looking at as a business investment, sell invest again, sell
invest again. Where in trafficking you invest. Maybe if you do invest to
a human being, then you're just stealing a human yeah right, yeah,
opposed to like kidnapping or falsely grooming them into a lifestyle that they are now
involved in and getting them addicted to drugs. There's a whole gamut of things,
but essentially you're not really investing every month or week or a day or
whatever it is, and it's just a one hundred percent return on a profit.
An average trafficer makes about a quarter of a million dollars a year off
of one trafficking, so one human being one soul quarter million bucks a year
in profit. Yeah, that's what they're making off of them. So that's
clear of the minimal costs that they keep to if they have them in captivity
to feed them and assume it's more profitable not have them in captivity, have
their mom and dad feed them. You just traffic them on the side.
Yeah, I mean, the they tour around it's like being on a concert
tour is tour of the US on the circuit and they go from town town
There's all these sites. This is when we get into what we do is
really cool. Like there's a lot of sites that people don't know about.
There's the dark web, which people are aware of, and then there's the
lightweb, which we are all on. Most people on social media and apps
and stuff like that. But in the dark web, there are many apps
out there. There's many places that are just to sell sex and they claim
that you have to be nineteen you click a box, Yeah, can click
a box. And so there's these sites you know that we are actively on
and we engage in through different forms and it's happening. Man, They're selling
it right here where we live northide O Hu High Mountains of Free America.
Yeah, we did our first undercover operation online and we do what we call
an AD, so you post like, hey, I advertising my product on
the site. Right within five days, we had two hundred and fifty people
interested in this area. Mostly we're coming from across the state line. I
wanted to come across straight line. Second is two hun and fifty people.
Well this so the second time we did it, within ten minutes we had
four buyers. And then you're talking about fourteen years old. So you're advertising
the selling of a fourteen year old's body for men to care out lushly,
fleshly, sinful desires. And that quick, there's men that actively searching for
this. Oh, very quick, very quick. You're talking within twenty four
hours sixty people. Here's what's even more mind blowing, and some of this
has already got leaked out into the press, and we're trying to not let
it get leaked out because we don't want people to know. But obviously it's
kind of a little late, and we're here now too. But we uh,
we did an eleven year old recently, and I think you might have
seen this article, but yeah, KHQ did this, right, Yeah,
and so so when you did an eleven year old, you advertised an eleven
year old person for sale. Yeah that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, we advertised anyway. And so I was kind of debating with
my team like is that too young? This and that, and we're like,
oh whatever, they're going to come back anyways next week to the fourteen
year old, and we did, and it was it blew my mind.
And let me just tell you this. I think this is important for the
audience to know too. I've been doing this for years, mostly international,
and I've seen some insane stuff, the acid stuff one of my friends that
I'm now friends with, I've seen a lot of insane things. I knew
it was happening in the United States, but I can't tell you how often
I'm shocked here in the United States, my hometown of less than fifty thousand
people, we did the same ad. Within twenty four hours, we had
fifty five different buyers of a fourteen year old. These are the type of
things that are shocking to me, a eleven year old, where people are
reaching out and showing up and getting arrested. But to me, even my
mind couldn't really comprehend, like, really, this is happening, This prevalent
right here in our town, in our town is happening. And you know
what also is blowing my mind. And you can see these every week.
Yesterday there was another one that came out. These guys who are successful bankers,
doctors, real estate agents, whatever, they're getting caught. They're not
the kids in the park with the backpack selling meth. You know, these
are successful people. You know how much it costs for thirty minutes with an
eleven year old? Praise God, have no idea? Yeah, two hundred
and fifty dollars and fifty people for an hour. Do you know what it
costs overnight? One thousand dollars overnight. Yeah, And we had a guy
who wanted two eleven year olds overnight for two thousand dollars he's a single guy,
not married, no kids, with the pool at his house, is
going to have fun. He's gonna get him a drunk and even says,
you don't worry, you won't remember what's going to happen. Two thousand dollars.
So do you think that this is like some poor person's addiction. No,
no, well no, like sin knows, no bounds right on the
righteous side of thing. God rains down the common blessings on the evil and
the good so called good no notice, we're good. But no, I
don't. And here's what's so remarkable to me, Isa, I hear you
tell this story. There are people who would tell you, oh, there's
there's no big rings of sex traffickers, there's no I'm sorry if you have,
I mean, if you have billions of dollars and you've fallen into what
I think is porn, I definitely think this is demonic and porn is giving
you this insane sexual appetite that now there's no bottom, nothing's nothing's extreme enough.
And you've got a billion dollars, Why would you not create a ring?
And why would you not you know, get your own kids. You're
a business person. Why are you continuing to rent kids when you can own
kids. So no, I don't think it's a poor person's thing. The
I didn't know about the economics. And in a small town, you would
gosh, I would think that you would think, gosh, this is a
small town. If I'm going to go do this, maybe I should arrange
a business trip or a hunting trip or something. Oh that happens too,
Yeah, right, okay, I think I think what's important to know about
the small towns is that there's no risk. So mean, there's no risk
in a small town. So an app large town like Seattle, Los Angeles,
Chicago, Dallas, something like that, they might have a task force
with at least one or two or maybe five people maybe dedicated to these child
crimes. In small towns, they have seven drug task force officers but zero
child crimes officers. So where are you going to spend your time as a
criminal selling drugs when it's more lucrative to have another form of business and there's
no risk and there's no risk. So that's the other thing. Well,
we don't really want the press to know about it because we don't want them
to know that there's risk because they're sloppy when they don't think there's risk.
So what we're trying to do is how do we create risk? And I've
seen this, we know when we used to go into tourist island towns and
we'd dismantle them and they would leak out across the entire island. Twenty one
guys arrested, forty two girls, we rescue, blah blahlah whatever it was
for about six months, you can find somebody to have sex with there on
that island, right, I mean it was like, I'm not going to
prison for the rest of my life, right, So it actually created risk
too. So there's that component in piece two. But for us, you
know, and we can get into the mechanics of what we actually do.
But we're trying to one create risk, but we're trying to put away these
guys and not just the rest guys, but we're trying to build solid cases
because what's really important law enforcement is the conviction rate, right, and then
the length of sentencing, because if you arrest a guy but your case sucks
and they walk out with a misdemeanor or slap on the risk or two months
probation, as a waste of everyone's time. Yeah, and the guys right
back out on the street right well, and then you have insane places like
I call it the Separate Country of Washington or California, where they'll slap on
the risk guys like that. But I mean, and we'll talk about this.
I hope they are normalizing grooming to a degree. I talked to one
of your colleagues who did Crime Stoppers International, and Jim told me, yeah,
that the pornographic sex said they're doing. You better belie, that's a
groomer's dream because it normalizes that. So we'll continue this conversation get into specifically
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do you actually do? I mean, there's a lot to this, but
what do you actually do? Yeah, So we have a three tier approach.
So we protect and preserve the innocence of children from sex trafficking, online
exploitation, and sexual abuse. And so those are the three angles everyone knows
now or seems to be that everybody knows and wants to talk about trafficking,
and so we focus on that that's more of an organized crime piece and component.
But how we work as we train and equip law enforcement with the tools
that they need to go out and the techniques and tactics with the state of
the art technology that we've developed but I can't talk about publicly. But how
it works is we figure, how do we teach people a department how to
fish and give them the equipment to fish and let them go fish, and
then we can move on and they can continue to fish. And that's how
we're going to scale this. So essentially, we're we're doing online investigations.
We're meeting the department wherever they are. If they've started doing this, they
just don't know specific chat with sites and how to create these accounts and blah
blah blah. We can we can come in give them all the equipment they
need. Some of the equipment is very expensive equipment, so we can go
in there and get them up to speed or get them more efficient and more
effective. And if they're already doing this and they want to get more the
organized crime part of it, which is following the money, then we can
bring them up to speed wherever they are in their journey as far as building
a team or a task force or a couple of detectives or whatever it is.
And so that's what we do. And all my team is active duty
law enforcement. We have a guy who's with a federal agency as well,
and so they're all active duty, which is really cool because they can write
search warrants they can't, right, you know. And so and that's what
we want to do. And I think it's important also for everybody to know
is that this year alone, there'll be about three hundred and sixty thousand children
that are sexually abused. Right, they're not all trafficked, but there's a
lot of sexual abuse. I want to go back to what you were talking
about with the porn industry and all that stuff. So what we're really good
at doing is identifying patterns of life and watching the behavior of a human where
they start and what does it lead to and where does it go from there?
Right, So, if you understand where a human may be downloading,
trading child porn, eventually that addiction, which you know, the entry level
might for drugs is maybe marijuana or whatever prescription drugs, eventually leads to herointer
math or whatever it may be. But porn is the kind of marijuana stage
in a sense, to where the dopamine hits eventually aren't hitting, and then
they have to go younger, and then they have to actually go to physical
abuse, and that physical abuse usually tends to at first go to, well,
I'll just go pay for it right and then, and maybe not always,
I'm just giving you some scenarios. Also, it can just go to
like, well, why am I paying for it right now? Like this
girl happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, And there's
a case here locally in this actually not far from here where you know,
they caught a guy, a guy on my team caught a guy for having
a lot of child porn, and that in that first little while, this
is an interesting psychological part of all this. But in that first moment,
they're they're addicted like an alcoholic to alcohol right like or to a drug,
and they hide it from their family, they hide it from everybody they know
that they're a closet sex aholic or child poor anaholic. They've tried cold turkey,
they've done all these things, and then now they've been arrested, and
in that first little window they're like, oh, at first they don't understand
the reality of what's about to happen. They're like, finally I'm going to
finish and quit this addiction. My wife's going to know, my kids are
gonna know, my work's gonna know. Let's say, I'm gonna get rid
of it. Right, So they're in a weird spot until they realize they're
about to go to jail for a long time. But in that window,
my team member asked, have you ever physically abused the child? And he
was like, well, there's this one time I was how I'm a friend
of a friend build a deck and it was money and they didn't want me
to go inside use the bathroom, so I said, you the RV.
Well, they had his kids were there, and the kid's friends were there,
and I go into the trailer and this cute little girl happened to be
in there while I was in there, and my addiction came over me,
and so it overcame me. And so if we can intervene before she ever
he ever would have even been in that trailer to get to that girl,
that's where we that's where we want to be, or we want to get
there before his one hundred and seventeenth victim. And the reason I use that
number is because on average, one of these perpetrators will abuse one hundred and
seventeen victims in their lifetime. There are people watching and are listening who've been
abused, and God loves you, and you didn't do anything wrong and he
can can't rescue you, and that doesn't define who you are not at all.
And talking about it, being with people who've been through it and processing
it, you can and God, believe or not, can use that pain
for good. Amen, right, for for sure? Right, So that
could verge into like a thought crime thing you're describing, But I get where
you're going in this trajectory. So you can actually get in front of a
guy and his decisions across that line. Have you actually successfully gotten in front
of a guy and said, uh, like you're gonna stop because child porn
is illegal, images of kids being raped is illegal, So you've actually gotten
ahead of the decision someone might have made to go change a kid's life potentially.
Yeah, we're in a case right now where well, actually there are
a couple of cases right now where we arrested a guy who showed up to
have sex with a little child. Who has children girls living in his home
good God step children or soon to be step children. And when the fiance
or wife finds out he went to meet up with a twelve year old,
then they have an eleven year old and a nine year old at home,
she flips her lid and so then unfortunately, we have to do an interview
with the mom and with the children. And it's said that thirteen is usually
when they come out and a young child doesn't know that, oh, is
this wrong? Being raped by my step dad or whatever? Is this wrong?
They don't know and how he went about it. Who knows how that
process worked until they discover they're like, you know what that was wrong?
Well? Right, And there's that that I've talked to people who've have been
raising the circumstances, and there's this gut feeling that it's wrong. But then
that gets confused with well, I don't like it when my mom tells me
to mold lawn, and I don't like it when I have to do homework,
and so maybe this is just another circumstances. Maybe this is the thing
a kid has to go through. Right, I've talked to kids because of
the thing we went through with our with our family, and I want to
get to I want to get to the more common, less dramatic being snatched
off the street like you were, or you know, I was. It
does happen, but i'm I'm I think that maybe the more common, and
you'll tell me if I'm wrong, is the Hey, working bit by bit
by bit. You're the most beautiful girl I've ever met. Your parents don't
get you, your wives beyond your years. I can help you have some
independence, and hey, I love you. And then hey, there's that
night where I beat the garbage out of you, but hey, look you
made me do it, and now we got to make up. And what
did they call that? The grilla beatdowns? Something like that, So we'll
talk about that. When I went down to Mexico, I was talking to
people who live there about the sex trafficking problem there, and they really localize
it. The locals to Northern Mexico's far worse than southern Mexico. Was in
Port of Arta, and part of art has sort of protected. It has
these mountain ranges and there's basically two ways out mountain roads through the jungle,
or you fly or you get on a boat. So it's a little bit
easier to protect. Plus I've got seven police forces now. When I was
down there, I was at Renew Healthcare, and I had the opportunity to
watch people who've had their lives well, just rescued in a way, like
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dot Healthcare. So that common I worked with, gave money and got to
know some of the guys at the Genesis Project in Seattle. Their active duty
cops. They created a deal. When they busted a woman or a girl
on that day, they'd make that charge disappear, no paperwork. You're gone,
right, we take you out of the circumstance and in a couple hours
you're at a safe house in another state with a new name, Beautiful Project.
But they're the one who educated me into that process of just loving on
these kids that they see in the mall And am I right? They're going
places like that And hey, here's a girl who stand office. She's not
fitting in with the others, stilled man, She'll fit in with me.
Yes. I want to touch on several pieces of this, but I would
say to take it to the reality is that ninety percent of people who are
developmentally challenged or delayed developmentally will be sexually abused in our lifetime. In fifty
percent of those will be sexually abused ten times in their lifetime. They're praying
not just emotionally or distraught people children whose parents are divorced. They're posting how
sad life is and how they hate boys and all that stuff. Yes,
and they're praying on people who are actually physically disabled physically and mentally. Yes,
it's insanity. It's one of the things that gets me the most.
And there's something local happening here too, but I'm not gonna get into that.
What I think is important in this topic that you're talking about when you're
talking about how common it works, you're talking about earlier, grabbing, Snag,
the movie Taken, all that stuff. It happens. But I'm gonna
tell you what's insane and what every single parent needs to know if they have
children, especially girls, your social media apps, it's a one hundred percent
guarantee guaranteed. If it's a public app and they're a young girl and they're
not even barely somewhat putting themselves up there, just being a normal kid,
they will be approached guaranteed online. And I have a ton of stats,
but I believe it's one in three children will be approached and solicited for sex
online before they turn eighteen. That's insane. That's online we have seen.
And these are like the biggest social media apps in the world. I'm not
going to throw them all their names out there, but I'm sure you know.
And there's one in particular, and we have tons of case studies on
this. You create a profile, you're fourteen years old and all this stuff,
and the next thing you know, you got guys spending you messages and
pictures. And it's not even like some of them aren't even like walking their
toes into the water. They just jump right in rate my junk, send
a picture, and that's the part of the innocence onion. The is just
peeled away. And that's some of the things that we approach too, is
how do we go after those guys that are exploiting these children online, because
you know what they're doing. They're creating these accounts, they're becoming people that
aren't real, and they're fifty year old men, let's just say, who
are way smarter than a fourteen year old boy. They're telling them things that
they've never heard before. They're giving them the attention their dad doesn't give them.
They're give the attention the boys don't give them. They're giving them all
the attention that they've ever wanted and desired, and they're getting it. And
they think that it's a fourteen year old boy. And then they're just saying,
hey, yeah, well, who about any pictures of you and your
friends by the pool. Well, the girl, that's innocent. We are
in public in our bathing suits, nothing wrong with that. Here's some pictures
of me at fourteen in my bathing suit. That guy, that's how he
slowly starts to take those photos and they'll sells them online. Then becomes more
and more and more to the point where they it's insane. Some of the
stories where you're like, how did you fall for this? It's like it's
like the senior citizen's falling for the scamming call. It's the same thing,
but for our children. And it's what's incredible. I think parents need to
know is that we are a different generation. We didn't grow up with this,
so we don't know how to teach our kids not to do certain things.
They're teaching us about social media technology and it's changing all the time.
We also we also don't understand, like it was very easy when I was
a kid, like, Hey, there's a weird dude at the playground,
shouldn't doesn't look like he belongs here, don't talk to him, stay away
from them. MODA. These strangers are in your house, behind your child's
closed door, to their bedroom, coming through their phone. That's scary to
me. And they're everywhere, yeah, you know everywhere. Back in the
day when I was I'd sold my internet radio company and I was trying to
figure out what to do next and doing some consulting and spending time in Hollywood.
I was helping talent agencies and movie stutis figure out streaming media. And
it is before I went to Microsoft. Someone turned me on something called cam
Horse, So this was back there. It was called that was the website
cam Horse, and girls would go there and I mean, it's basically only
fans before only fans became a thing. And I wanted to write an article
about this, and because at the time I was doing some writing, just
trying to keep my profile out there, and I contacted one of the girls
and said, hey, like, I didn't see naked pictures of ever.
Thank God. I last time I looked at pornography was probably twenty five years
ago. Praise God that that he took that from me. And part of
it was understanding that, hey, if you're looking at porn, congratulations,
you're probably looking at someone who's been sex traffic. You're probably watching a rape,
not to mention the fact that you are separating yourself from God, not
to mention the fact that it's sin, it's adultery, it's all these things.
You're driving the economics sex trafficking. So last time I could ever look
at porn was then, and I was at that stage where I was looking
at porn, thank god, And she said, yeah, I'll talk about
what I do. So came to find out she lived in her parents' house.
She did this upstairs and I remember her name. Stephanie said well,
but Stephanie, someone could find you. Oh no, no, they couldn't.
And Nate it took me maybe thirty five minutes to go back to her
and say, here's where you work, this is when you go to class,
and this is where you live. And this was prior to Google Earth.
Man, this is probably before or all the technology we have now,
right, And this is just going through and looking at social streams and comments
and pictures. Look at that. And she went back and said, oh,
you're freaking me out, like this is spooky now. I'm like,
yeah, but I'm just a writer. Ye I am not someone who's intent
unharming somebody that risk. People will say, oh, well, you're just
trying to scare No, because that a child can be changed when someone cons
him into giving a naked picture and they know that a stranger has a picture,
and that then moves into I need you to do some things on video
for me, right, and I need you to continue to do this or
I'm going to show your mom and dad. Oh yeah, that's clastic.
And when people are doing that and the parents learn, what is that like
when parents realize my angel I I know what the male viewership of and listenership
to this podcast to say is okay, now I'll kill m What's that like
when a when a family realizes that in our home, in your bedroom with
the stuffed animals. Yeah, I think shock. I would say a lot
of parents are heartbroken or they're guilty because they didn't know what was going on.
Shock. People don't realize it's happened. Yeah, you know, what's
the what's the protection scheme? I mean to me, if I could do
life again, when my little girl came and said and and and moved me
into getting her phone, I would have locked the whole thing down. Now
I know that there are helpful friends who give kids unlocked cell phones with access
to their parents accounts because their parents don't even keep track of it. So
what do you suggest for parents? I think, you know, coming from
from our standpoint, we're trying to protect and preserve of innocence. So innocence
is the most important piece. So that's the angle we come from. It
at and you've got to there's several angles. You got to have a real
relationship with your children, right, and then you got to have an honest
one. This is the most difficult conversation to have with your child is phone,
social media, that type of thing. As men, whether you're married
or divorced, it doesn't matter. As the father, you need to be
present in your daughter's life, and you need to give them the attention that
they need and desire, because if you don't, they're going to seek it
out somewhere else. So that's an important component of all this. I think
having private accounts is very important. When we talk about innocence, and I
use the onion layer, there's very few things you can do to protect your
child if there accounts open, because guys can send them anything. And when
you talk about a guy just sending an explicit picture off the bat, the
first message, a layer of innocence was just removed from your child. And
so I would say, have real conversations. I think the kids need to
get educated. That's another thing that we're doing. We're working with school resource
officers developing program because the school resource office is already in the schools. Everybody
wants to educate the parents, which is very important to educate the parents,
But how does the parent then educate the child on a very difficult topic.
So how do we the children are the targets, right, So we have
to go and educate the children first. Yeah, and that's really what it's
going to come down to, is protecting them as parents. Have that relationship
so that you can be open with what they're doing and what's going on,
and have these conversations that those don't believe get educated on what is happening.
The person that you think is giving you all that information may not actually be
that. Don't ever tell your child should never send photos of themselves anywhere on
the internet. Those will be out there forever. Yep, you know.
So couldn't agree more. And I would say this, if you know the
school your kid is in is teaching the perverse pornographic sex ad get them out.
I can't homeschool. You can have a kid who's been who's seen grooming
normalized. I would tell you this, they're better being unschooled in schooled than
that, And you need to investigate your schools. I hate to get off
on a tangent because that can be a tangent, but having seen what I
saw when this stuff was installed in Washington State, and having had Jim Feu
to tell me, oh yeah, oh, not only is this a sex
traffickers dream, it's a groomer's dream, it's a rapist dream. Because all
of a sudden that you know, you talk about the innocence onion. This
is my teacher who says this is okay. So there's a lot more to
this conversation. We're going to have a friend of yours on who's organizing a
visibility event a rock in North Idaho to bring some visibility to this. I
intend if the dates work, to be there and we'll talk about that later.
And how do people help you? Guys? Anything we can do to
help you. But we're a nonprofit, so we're based on the funding of
the people. It's really the people supporting their local police. So we can
really put your money to work in your community. So our website irmission dot
org you can follow us on iron Mission is our social media links where we're
going to be providing stats but also those tips, tricks, techniques, that
kind of thing where you can kind of get a little small soundbites of how
you can protect and preserve the innocence of your children. You know, we
do events around the country where we try to raise money for the local law
enforcement because it's important for us to keep that money local, not just in
the United States, which one hundred percent of what we do in the United
States. But my idea behind all this is how do we in North Idaho
fund the North Idaho police departments to protect the North Idaho children and my children
And a lot of people want to do that, and so you can.
You can send an email info at iro mission and we can arrange a fundraiser
for you for your community. Send out QR codes. We can do a
lot of stuff for you to help protect the children in your community as well.
So so well organized, well God characteristic can do what he's doing equipping
the cold. So appreciate you, brother. Thank you for coming on your
mission. Will have you back all right, all right? Oh Lord,
thank you for a wise wisdom of new friends and for the ability to defend
innocence for all you did say in one of your harshest statements, Lord Jesus
said, those who come between me and the little ones will wish someone had
tied a millstone around their neck and toss them into the ocean. So when
God says a thing, it's already happened. And if you are tempted to
harm a child, if this show didn't stop it, how about eternity in
hell? This is the Todd Herman show. Please go, be well,
be strong, be kind, and make every effort to walk in the light
of Christ.