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Well here we are happy marcast Monday
back regularly scheduled, you know CFL weekend

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recap, but I thought we would
do something fun today obviously, you know

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games for the week nd of Little
Love meaning last unless you're a drown the

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Argonauts fan going for history here.
So we decided to kind of put together

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a special panaday. Let me bring
into normal normal folks here. First off,

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Jason Evan, how are we doing
doing good? Read? You're ready

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to talk some playoff football? Yeah, talking playoff football. We'll talk games

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of the weekend. Bob Dice being
renewed here. I saw Tim Ban just

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post out, and then I decided, here let's get Ryan. I think

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Cliffe is still getting set up.
We got Ryan Mallentine here. Last I

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spoke with this gentleman. We were
sharing a beer together under the Brooklyn Bridge

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in New York, New York and
Vegas. Bryan, how are you doing

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good man? Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. A good night

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that night and a great night,
a great time in the CFL right now,

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Yeah, it'll be good. I
figured I wanted to get a special

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guest, and then we have both
Cliffe and Ryan get back to me back

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and forth Cliffe here as well.
We can talk both you know, East

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and West CFL playoffs. Cliffe.
How are you doing, sir? Doing

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good? So we're good. So
we're here today, I guess first breaking

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news off the bat. We've talked
for weeks here about Bob Dice and kind

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of his future. Jason, are
you surprised him being renewed to the Ottaway

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here at tim Banane and I saw
aj Jackie back posting it as well.

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Yeah, I'm not completely shocked because
of the you know, obviously the CFL

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operations cap just generally how teams do
it these days. They don't want to

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deal with the subsequent penalties for having
years left on the contract. So not

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shocked at all, even though that
wouldn't be the decision I would have made

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adding that question for you. Uh, yeah, I'm not too surprised either.

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I think you know Dice. I
mean, obviously, look, game

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management this year was a bit of
a problem. But you know, again,

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like I remember when Farhan came on
your show and you know, he

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talked about Ottawa and he was kind
of saying like, well, you know,

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if you do make changes, like
who is going to replace you know,

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the person that is leaving, you
know, are prepared to make that

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jump, and ultimately they decided that, you know, it's not going to

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be much changed. So yeah,
ultimately, I think, you know,

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another year with Dice, Like,
given his you know, just the level

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of experience that he has in the
CFL, I do think, you know,

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he's deserving of another shot. It
might be surprising to some, but

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yeah, ultimately, like Jason said, with the operations cap and just you

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know everything else, I mean,
it was a trying season for Ottawa's It's

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been for the past, I guess
a couple of years, so you know,

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onto the next one. Yeah,
Ryan, do you view that?

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And then outaway? To me kind
of feels like a wasted year here.

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We had the Missoli experiment last year
and obviously we on there with that with

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Marino and everything, and then this
year running back and like it feels like

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they're very staggingant right now. Yeah, I think Ottawa is in a bit

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of a holding pattern admittedly, but
I also think it's it's stort sighted to

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fire a coach after one season.
You know, Bob Dice has had one

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year. Let's let's give him,
you know, let's get him into a

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second camp. Get him into a
second year, let him find a rhythm

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a little bit. If he's still
not doing getting the job done for the

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team next year, then maybe you
look at replacing him. But I think

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firing a coach after one season is
always something that feels good for fans,

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But I don't know that it's great
for the continuity of the of the team.

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Obviously, Cliviy, you know better
for the Allettes here having a weaker

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autaway team. But what do you
make that. I know you guys obviously,

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you know have eyes on everything,
but obviously the East a lot well.

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I'm also surprised to the fact that
they had Kahari Jones and Baron Miles,

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who were both former Alouett's coaches,
go to Ottawa to try and revitalize

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things there and help out Bob Dice, and it didn't work, unfortunately.

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And that's unfortunate to say, because
they're both excellent coaches, they're both excellent

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coordinators. But I mean sometimes it's
just not the right fit or for whatever

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reason, they just can't keep the
room. And I have a feeling besides

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the injuries, I think that was
a lot of the problem was I don't

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know if Kahari was truly able to
implement his plan. I mean it worked

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with his coaching style works definitely,
like you saw what happened with fern Adams,

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but for some reason, with Jeremia
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else that played quarterback for the Red
Blacks, it just didn't seem to be

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the right fit. So speaking of
Ottawa and everything, and obviously, like

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I said, we'll kind of get
through this real quick, that Toronto historic

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kind of victory here going up over
Ottawa. Jason, what did you make

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of that here at home Ottawa closing
out the season and everything else, but

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kind of the accolades that went along
with the Argonauts. Yeah, well,

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like you, I didn't have the
chance to watch a lot of these games

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this weekend. But at the end
of the day, I congratulation to the

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Argonauts for obviously pulling off the regular
season record. But I mean, at

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the end of the day, it
doesn't matter unless they ultimately win the Great

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Cup. But I feel like that's
the thing that you know, I'm going

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to take a look at it today
in a video I'm going to be doing

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later on where I'm compared to the
regular season Junkernauts and if they ultimately ended

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up winning the Great Cup. The
last thirty years, and you know a

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lot of these teams that historically have
had great records in the CFL in the

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regular season. You think back to
those Calgary teams. You know, Ryan

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will test to that last ten years
or so, they've had a lot of

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you know, disappointing losses in the
Great Cup or before the Great Cup.

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So ultimately it does not matter the
regular season record if Toronto doesn't finish the

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deal here. Yeah, Ran,
We've had a lot of talk on here

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and I just you know, the
game management the Toronto and here the duke's

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getting the start again. We didn't
see a lot of Brian Scott see more

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of him kind of down the pike
here. What have you made of how

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Toronto's kind of game man as we
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they're trying to keep their players healthy
and at the same time trying to keep

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players fresh, and it becomes difficult
when you look at these CFL seasons and

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having to keep guys from I mean, they've been clinched for what six games

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or something. You know, it's
not like they've they've had any kind of

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worry or time or stress in this
last little bit. But they also need

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to keep their guys on the field. I mean, you know, I

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understand Chad Kelly didn't play against against
Ottawa this weekend, But now when you

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look at it, when was the
last time Chad Kelly fired a pass that

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mattered. By the time he gets
to the East Final, it'll been a

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calendar month. And are you able
to stay fresh? Are you able to

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stay ready to go? If that's
the way you're going. And that's why

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I think you see a lot of
those teams that have these great regular season

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records and the fall in the playoffs
because there is no intention to their game

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late. So I do think they
were chasing the record and that gave them

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something to go for. But at
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they really cared if they went or
lost these games down the stretch from a

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consequence standpoint. So well, it'll
be interesting to see if they can they

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can manage that and flip that switch
in the East Final. I've heard that

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and I know and they've had it. We want to go one and know

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every week, Evan, do you
have any updated thoughts here? I mean,

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now that we've gone through this whole
experiment, and everyone that's been on

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the shows every week, you know, it's kind of gone back and forth

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about what the right way. But
now that we've we've made it here in

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Toronto's off next weekend and they're going
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Like, how have you graded how
they've handled this? I mean, I

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think, you know, again,
it's a tough spot, right because you

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know, you clinch for the playoffs
so early, you get that spot,

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you lock up the East whatever.
But you know if you sit chat like

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you can't sit Chad Kelly for a
month, you know and just not play

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him, and then he sits there
going into the playoffs and you know he

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hasn't played in the month, like
that's impossible. So we've definitely seen I

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think maybe a bit more of him. Like I know last week in that

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Saskatchewan game, it took a long
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until he started hobbling, you know, and then had to come off and

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then didn't. Whitty said, okay, we'll put Dukes in, and then

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obviously Duke's played this game in Ottawa. But yeah, I mean, you

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know, right, Now I just
I don't know. I don't see Toronto.

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I mean I understand, you know, they haven't really the past couple

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of games, like it feels like
they haven't played a meaningful game in a

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while, But I still don't really
see him, you know, given given

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anything up, like the only team
that has a chance. Like I know

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Mike Mike Mitchell, who you know, covers the argos, and we were

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talking about that. He said,
like, maybe Hamilton has a shot just

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because you know, obviously their offense
has been reworked under Scott Mollenovitch and that

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you you've seen the increase there in
their production since he came in and took

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over for Tommy Condell. That team
looks a lot more complete now. So

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there's a possibility, right that,
There's always that chance, And I mean,

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you know that'll be an interesting game, I think nonetheless. But boy,

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if Toronto goes down, you know, after a sixteen win season,

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you know, I will be very
surprised. So yeah, Clivey, what

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do you make of this? We
had Darrel Davis on last week. I

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mean he's calling for the ty Cats
upset for Montreal and that that would make

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Jason happy. I obviously I like
the you know, the outlets, not

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just because I like you guys,
but what do you make in here of

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the East? Because to me,
and we'll get to Ryan and Sam Peter

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scaring me with BC, I mean
I'm very terrified for that game. But

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what do you make of this in
the East, because I think this is

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pretty interesting matchup. Well, I
mean Montreal is arguably the hottest team in

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the East right now, but Hamilton
is no slouch either. I mean they,

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as you said, they are built
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it is Montreal. From what I
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I mean, yes, obviously there
is I think both sides were taking it

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kind of light because the game meant
nothing in the standings. I have a

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feeling Matthew Schiltzo is going to be
the big factory. He didn't play at

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all with his past Saraday and I'm
wondering if they're keeping him and Tim White

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for the Eastern semi final because I
from what I saw from Bolivi, he

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just did not look like the Bolivi
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But to me, I think Montreal
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I think Cody Fajardo, Jason Loss. Their plan is working. It's it's

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not perfect by any stretch, but
I think what they've been able to accomplish

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this year is nothing short of incredible. And truthfully, if Hamilton wins,

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it's only going to feel the narrative
that because Jagarrett David is playing for them,

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and he's been in every Great Cup
game winner lose his entire career,

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and as of now, he still
is very much a member of the Hamilton

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Tiger Cats. So if Hamilton makes
to the Great Cup, it's because they've

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got Jagarrett Davis in their lineup.
Uh, see what do we making here?

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Bo's back? You know we had
all these question marks here and everything.

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He's back now and obviously this game
isn't like a true test. Okay,

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what do we have going on?
But now that we're finally here,

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going in the next week, and
what are you make? Well, I'll

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piggyback of what Cliff. What Cliff
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be Matthew Schiltz behind center for the
majority of the game if they're gonna want

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to win. I think that I
really don't like the matchup of bow Lee

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by Mitchell against that Alouette's defense,
I think Daalaht's have an outstanding defense.

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And I think that you know,
the Tiger Cats against with bow Lee by

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Mitchell or Taylor Powell, they just
didn't look very good. Obviously a meaningless

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game. They didn't have Tim White, they didn't have James Butler. But

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I think in general, the previous
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Mitchell. Actually Mitchell didn't play any
of the games other than this this past

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week against the Alouettes. But the
previous couple matchups, the the Alouettes won

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while visiting Tim Morrinsfield and pretty convincing
fashion. So I don't really like the

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tier cats chances of going in here
and getting a win unless Matthew Schiltz is

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behind center. Right. What have
you made of the Hamilton's season? You're

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very odd and you know, we're
getting bow back and we got the quarterback

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that kind of got us to the
dance and balancing all that. What have

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you made of how the Ti Kats
have handled this? Well? The Ti

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Cats didn't really come out of the
gate in the way we were all expecting.

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We thought that the tig Cats would
be a good team. They loaded

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up in free agency, but then
some injury troubles got in the way and

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they struggled and really had trouble at
the quarterback position. But coming down the

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stretch, if you look at their
recent record, I know they lost to

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BC and I think they fell to
Hamilton Montreal this past weekend, but again

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in a game where you're really not
showing anything outside of those two losses.

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You know, they lost to Toronto
in the back to backs, but they've

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won a lot of games in the
back half of the season, so it

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wouldn't surprise me to see them pull
the upset here over Montreal. I think,

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for me, a lot of that
has to do with Jason Moss and

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Cody Fajardo's history of not necessarily performing
when the lights are the brightest, whether

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it be Mass's a head coach or
Fijardo as a quarterback. You know,

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you think back to the the donk
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ago, that that would have sent
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Winnipeg. Winnipeg gets the victory there
because Fijardo hit the upright. So there,

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there's there's just it's more of a
historical context that make me concerned for

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Montreal. But I think you've either
got Jaguarrett Davis making his way towards another

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another great Cup, or where you've
got the resurgence Sean Lemon leading leading the

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way on defense for Montreal. So
I mean, I think this will be

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probably the more entertaining of the two
games this weekend, but I think I

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think it really could go either way. I think for me, this one's

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a coin flip. That's so funny
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that was a year like that was
twenty nineteen, right, that was before

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you know, obviously then we got
into everything in the XFL and all that,

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and then but then yeah, that
was like the Cody Legs totally kind

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of based on that. I the
Montreal is just a weird team, you

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know. To me, we've talked
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you know, they can beat anyone
that's not Toronto and BC, you

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know, and it's it feels to
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Like hey we beat the Chicago Bears. It's like okay, like that's that's

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awesome. Like you were able to
put up Evan. Now that we're at

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this point, you know, with
Montreal. I know that my boy James

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Letcher had another big kick return here
at you know, friend of the show,

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bounce here coming in for the weekend. What do you what do you

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make of this year not going in? I mean, yeah, you know,

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I think I've been saying it for
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has what it takes, just with
the way that they've been playing, you

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know, on the back half of
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think it won't be too difficult for
them, you know, now that being

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said. A big question for Hamilton
that's already been talked about a bit here

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is you know, the quarterback situation. You know, obviously in the game

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this weekend, it was kind of
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for both teams. They didn't really
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had fully or whatever. You don't
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before the playoffs. So it was
a mix of Taylor Powell and Bollievi Mitchell

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and obviously Bolivian Mitchell has been playing
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know he came back from that injury. You know, honestly, there was

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a time where I wondered if Bolievi
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maybe even again for the ty CAATs. I don't know, there were there

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were a lot of questions there,
but in this game, in particular,

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h Taylor Powell played better, and
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their plan in the playoffs. I
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might go back to they'd love to
play two quarterbacks. You know, Hamilton's

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done that in the past. Jeremiah
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you know, it would be uh, it would make sense to roll with

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with Schiltz and Bolievi in this game, but you know, yeah, Bolievi

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didn't didn't look the best in this
game that was meaningless. So you know,

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going into playoffs here, you know
you wonder like who's gonna get a

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majority of the reps? Do you
trust Schultz more because you know, he's

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obviously been around for a while,
a veteran guy now, So there's definitely

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some questions there. But I like
Hamilton, and to be honest, I

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you know, like I said,
I mean, they have I think they

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have what it takes to really make
a run there. And you know,

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I getting past Toronto, you know, might be a bit different. And

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I don't know, like they're a
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have enough to get that done.
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I just can't get over the fact. Look, I know Montreal, Like

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it's interesting because again we've talked about
all season how they can beat they can

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beat anybody that's not as good as
them, but they can not beat anybody

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that's better than them. So they're
kind of right, they're right in the

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middle in terms of you know,
if it's Toronto Winnipeg, BC, can't

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do it. But if it's you
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Saskatchewan, whatever, no problem.
So I don't know, like Hamilton,

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so it's not completely out of the
question. But playoff football is a bit

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different, and you know, given
it just feels like this team, you

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know, during the regular season there
were certainly some missed opportunities despite them still

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being an eleven win team, which
is a great accomplishment. So there's a

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lot there. But and definitely,
i'd say out of all the games,

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I think that one, you know, could definitely it might have the most

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swing. I guess you could say
in either direction like I don't see,

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I don't see. Let's say b
C Calgary having that same type of like

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you know, fifty one, forty
nine or whatever you want to call it,

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toss up. I think it's a
bit more clear cut there. So

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definitely one of the more interesting games
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Yeah, I hear Tim. We
had their early lines here in Montreal here

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two and a half and then BC
KLIVI Tim was on and I had him

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on. We I just I should
have had you on here during the season

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as well. This has kind of
in my retrospective life here. But you

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know, Tim happy, like this
really could have been a disaster here coming

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on. You got new ownership,
but moss is coming in in Pajar are

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they don't getting XIL from Saskatchewan?
Like what's been your overall this? You

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know? I would think as a
Montreal Alowlett's fan, you have to be

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pretty thrilled with where we're at right
now. Oh. I think Alowett's fans

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absolutely have to be thrilled with what's
going on because everybody and their mother pretty

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much predicted the worst for Montreal after
going through the upheaval of ownership and new

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head coach and bringing Cody Fajarduin free
agency after his lesson instellar run in Saskatchewan.

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As it ended, I mean,
there's a lot of question marks and

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truthfully, it hasn't been perfect,
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They've they've met every time the bell
rang, they've met it and they've

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been able to accomplish quite a bit
in spite of all the extracurriculars, if

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you will, and it's pretty remarkable
of what they've been able to do.

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So I think truly this team has
been put together the right way. It's

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not perfect, and yes, they
until they beat the top tier teams like

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the Toronto's, the BC's and Winnipeg's, they haven't shown anything yet. So

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I mean, I think they're going
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show it again. Is Hamilton again
who they've basically swept the season series this

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year. I mean, I know
the playoffs is a different animal altogether,

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but I think right now they've got
the momentum, they've got that feeling and

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speak with the players after the games, they I'll say the same thing.

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The goal is to go want to
know every week it's to stay focused and

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they know what they have to do. It's just a matter of going out

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and executing, and by and large, this team has been able to do

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that. So I do feel confident
that Montreal's playing at home in front of

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their fans, and all indications that
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very close to, if not completely
sold out for the Saturday's game. I

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think Montreal takes that momentum and keeps
it going. Will it be able to

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beat Toronto? Possibly, But I
mean, let's focus one thing at a

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time. They know they have to
beat Hamilton, they know they haven't gotten

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the best of them this past Saturday, So you're just gonna have to leave

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it all out there, simply put. Both Hamilton and Montreal are gonna have

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to bring everything they've got if they
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see, it does feel like,
you know, I don't know, Montreal's

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kind of been a little bit of
a roller coaster, a Hamilton here on

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the upswinger, and it does feel
like both of these powers, it's kind

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of peak power for both of these
teams right now. Am I reading that

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correctly? I think so. Oh
sorry, no, you're right again.

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There's something always something about the latter
part of the season where both of these

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teams just seem to know how to
click into place, like they were struggling

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for most of the year, especially
against the top tier teams. But they've

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both teams, in their own way, have got the momentum. I just

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think Montreal has a slight edge,
especially since they've beaten Hamilton all three games

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they've played against each other, so
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That's I guess part of the beauty
of the playoff picture right now is that

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you look at Hamilton, you look
at Montreal, and you could easily say

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you can make a case for either
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Final. Jason, Yeah, what
do you think here? It really feels

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like I guess it's been weird and
we talked this every year in the East

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and everything, but both of these
kind of an extending right now. Yeah,

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for sure. I think one thing
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that, you know, Montreal,
obviously they have that thing where they they

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can't beat anybody that's above them or
whatever. They can't beat the top three

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teams in the CFL, so they're
eleven to zero against everybody else. But

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Hamilton has not beaten Montreal or Toronto
this season, and I mean usually in

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football, I find it's increasingly hard
to beat a team the more times that

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you play them. So if Toronto
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they're gonna have to try to go
five and oh against Hamilton. And you

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know, with Montreal, it's gonna
have to try to go to four to

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o against Hamilton. So I mean
it's gonna be interesting to see from that

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perspective if Montreal can get it done
again against Hamilton as well. So yeah,

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I think it's gonna be a very
interesting game. And like you said,

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I think that you could argue that
the East has been stronger than the

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West this year in general. I
think, you know, even you look

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at Ottawa, they were able to
win some games against the West Division this

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year. I think that, you
know, Hamilton has really picked it up

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over the second half of the season. But when it comes to this matchup,

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I really do like the Alouettes in
this matchup. Ryan, you know,

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in terms of Hamilton here and I
were you were you pro getting rid

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of bow LEVI like, how did
you how did you sort all this stuff

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out going into this season. I
don't know that I was pro getting rid

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of Bow, LEVI, but Bow
is not the Bow that he used to

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be, and I'm not sure that
Bow has changed his mentality, his gunslinger

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mentality of I can get it through
triple coverage, I can fire that deep

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ball, I can have that I
can make that pass. I don't know

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that his brain and his mindset have
matched what his body is capable of doing.

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From you know, a couple of
seasons of consecutive shoulder surgeries. There

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there was a point in Ricky Ray's
career where he went from being the deep

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ball gunslinger that he was in Edmonton
to being the seven eight yard drop offense

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magician he became in Toronto. And
while he could still occasionally hit a deep

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ball, that wasn't his first thought. I think Bow could be very successful

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if he went to that mindset.
The problem is is, I don't think

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he's got that mindset shift yet,
so so I'm not I wasn't necessarily in

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favor of Bo going in the way
that he went, But at the same

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time, I also recognized that he
wasn't the quarterback he once was, and

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so maybe it was time for a
fresh start, a new look, and

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maybe that would give him that mindset
shift. I don't know that it has,

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but that's that's what I thought was
best for him at the time.

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Well, I think it's also hard
because I mean, he really hasn't had

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a lot of opportunity, you know, this year, the kind of Yeah,

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he's also been injured most of the
year, so that hasn't helped for

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sure, Jason, is this the
bow experiment here? I mean, is

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it Gray Cup or bus here?
At this point, they're like, how

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do we kind of settle out of
this year moving forward? Well, if

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he goes on to win the Great
Cup this year, all will be forgiven

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with how this whole season's turned out
for him, because this is what they

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brought him in to do, to
bring that veteran experience to get them over

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the hump. Because Hamilton's had good
teams. They've had teams that have been

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capable of getting to the Great Cup, but they just cannot get across the

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finish line. And maybe having the
experience of Bowlie by Mitchell can help them

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get there. But like I said, I think it's an uphill battle having

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to win both road games to get
to the Great Cup, and ironically,

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if they got to the Great Cup, the home game would be the Great

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Cup. But I think that it's
going to be very difficult for the tired

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Cats because I think I was reading
that a third place team in the East

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Division hasn't made the Great Cup since
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So it's gonna be an upper uphill
battle for Hamilton. Evan. Anything

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else, we'll starty shift to never
hear to the West. But anything else

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you're talking to Montreal Hamilton. I
mean, just on the topic of Bolivi

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Mitchell. I mean I think people, you know, just with the way

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this season's gone, the fact that
he hasn't played, I mean, people

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are very quick to forget what he
used to be. And I know it's

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been a long time, you know, maybe since we've seen him you know,

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quote unquote in his prime. But
you know, Calgary was like in

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the playoffs every year for a reason, and you know this year obviously a

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bit different. You know a lot
of people didn't expect to Calgary to maybe

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get in, at least I didn't. Just with the way things were going

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obviously, But anyway, yeah,
I mean believe I wouldn't I wouldn't count

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him out yet again, I know
it's been kind of up and down.

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He might not be the same player. You know, obviously this game that

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he played this week wasn't so great. But he's flashed some stuff here in

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these past or the last couple of
games here at the end of the season

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that do look you know, kind
of like vintage bow Levi for lack of

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a better term. So if he
if he can show that against Montreal,

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I think that, you know,
it doesn't guarantee that Hamilton wins, but

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it'll we make the game a lot
more entertaining. Yeah, I don't know.

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Hey, Jason, do you feel
I don't know. We were talking

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here and Mike Mitchell, like we
said in the in our chat about you

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know, Hamilton having to go and
beat Toronto or whatever. I mean,

407
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.960
how do you feel now whoever comes
out of this game here going into Toronto

408
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.279
would have to face Well, I
feel like it's interesting when you talk about

409
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.920
Toronto's perspective in this, I think
that they would rather see Montreal than Hamilton

410
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:32.319
just because of you know, the
history of Hamilton kind of you look back

411
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.920
at the twenty twenty one East Final
and how they went in there and upset

412
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.680
them. I think that there's a
little bit of a fear in the back

413
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.359
of Argo's fan's minds when it comes
to that. But I think in terms

414
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.319
of the business side of you know, the people in the Toronto Argonauts organization,

415
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.559
they would like to see Hamilton make
that game because I think it would

416
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.519
maximize the amount of tickets sold and
stuff like that. So it'll be interesting

417
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:57.440
to see. I think that regardless, Toronto will be a heavy favorite to

418
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.920
win that game, but I do
think they would rather see the Alouettes.

419
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:06.799
I think that even though the Aloettes
have played closer games against the Rigos this

420
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.599
season than the tire Cats have,
I think that's just in the back of

421
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.920
their mind that you know, they
would have to ask them to do would

422
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.000
again a fifth time. So I
think it's gonna be very interesting to see

423
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.720
how it plays out. Cliffy'll give
you a found a word here on the

424
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:25.279
Alolettes so that it will shift over
a little bit. Anything else about this,

425
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.599
Yeah, I think there is a
lot to prove. As we keep

426
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.359
talking about the narrative of yet you're
good, but are you good enough to

427
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.400
go to the Great Cup? Is
just lingering overhead with Montreal. I mean,

428
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.279
yeah, a lot of people think
that they can beat Hamilton, and

429
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.880
they very well could. As I
said, we can make an argument for

430
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.559
both teams in the Eastern semi final. But I truly believe Montreal is they've

431
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.680
got what it takes to get to
the Eastern Final, and I definitely think

432
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.920
they owe it to themselves to be
competitive in the Eastern Final, because yes,

433
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:59.440
they have played Toronto pretty close at
Personal Molson Stadium earlier this year,

434
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:03.519
though Thet's got dog walked essentially by
the Argos at Bimo Field, and last

435
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.440
year they were a converted touchdown away
from going to the Great Cup beating the

436
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.720
Argonauts. So that's got to be
a motivating factor as well. Cody Fajara

437
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.240
wants to prove that he is that
guy. Jason Moss wants to prove that

438
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.200
he is that guy as well for
this, Like, there's a lot on

439
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.759
the line for the Alouettes and it
all starts on Saturday, but to them,

440
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.359
I think it truly is Great Cup
or bus Like if they do not

441
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.400
make it to the Great Cup,
this will be looked at as a lost

442
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.359
season, and it's unfortunate to think
that because given everything they've gone through this

443
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.079
year, they should be extremely proud
of where they are, and I think

444
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.240
deep down they are. But at
the same time, you want that ring.

445
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.160
You want to prove to everybody,
yeah, I am good enough to

446
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.240
be a Great Cup winning quarterback or
head coach or wherever you are within this

447
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.799
organization. You want to prove that
you do you are that person. So

448
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.599
to me, I think that's what's
going to be motivting the Alouettes and I

449
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.480
think that's really going to give them
what they need to get past Hamilton and

450
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.359
give a great match to Toronto as
well. And yeah, I would not

451
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.759
be surprised to see Montreal in the
Great Cup if only for those reasons.

452
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.200
But you've got to be able to
do it. You've got to be able

453
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.559
to execute. That's truly the thought
right now is, yes, you're good,

454
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.200
but are you good enough? And
it's a question I've been asking all

455
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.720
season of this team and so far
the answer is they are good, but

456
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.319
are they good enough to beat those
top tier teams. If you can do

457
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.599
that, you know what the reward
is. So at the end of the

458
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:26.960
day, it's on yellow. It's
to show that yes, they are who

459
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.599
they say they are. Well,
I think it too. And also,

460
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.200
you know, we would cement Cody
I don't know to me at least when

461
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.359
we came into the league, and
I always felt like Cody was kind of

462
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:40.119
in that upper tier at least just
in terms of visibility and what, you

463
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.640
know, more than like a Nick
Arbuckle of that. And maybe Nick used

464
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:47.119
to be you know, everyone knows
kind of our place and covering the league

465
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.119
here, but like you know,
that would have Cody kind of be in

466
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.960
that, you know, as kind
of they couldn't make or couldn't do or

467
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:57.039
whatever. In terms of Calgary here, Ryan, we had Jamie Nye on

468
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:02.720
two weeks ago screaming that's when ye
know that their fans didn't even want them

469
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.240
to make the Great cop and they
wanted to lose and make their way out

470
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.519
of it. Calgary's in now.
You're muted at Calgary's in now? And

471
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:12.279
what are we are we happy?
I mean, because this has been not

472
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:18.720
another great season. I mean,
I don't think there's anybody that's gonna say

473
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:25.119
that they're unhappy that Stampeters made the
made the playoffs. As a Stamps fan,

474
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.720
there's that kind of like a sado
mastic, sadomasochistic relationship between the Riders

475
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:36.920
and their fans that that has gone
on for generations. Uh, And so

476
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.960
you know, the idea that they
didn't make the playoffs and so we can

477
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.279
rage accordingly is a is a Saskatchewan
thing. That's definitely not a Calgary thing.

478
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.279
Calgary fans have made. You know, the Stampeters are now in their

479
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:57.480
eighteenth consecutive season of making the playoffs. There are now a full generation of

480
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:04.440
fans that have never not seen the
playoffs in Calgary, so they definitely wanted

481
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.319
to be there. Fans definitely wanted
to be there. They know, you

482
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:14.559
know, the expectations are not high
for this team headed into the playoffs,

483
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.359
but they just making the playoffs and
knowing that that street continues allows them to

484
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.519
rebuild for next year. And there's
that kind of anything they do as a

485
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:29.880
bonus at this stage, you know, feeling to the team. There's obviously

486
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:34.200
disappointment in how the team went,
but if the disappointment in Calgary is still

487
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:41.599
a playoff spot, that also matches
fans expectations here in in Cowtown, you

488
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.680
know, they they expect to make
the playoffs even if you're a bad team.

489
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.839
Yeah, jasically six and twelve here, and you know, I saw

490
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:53.000
a lot of everything about all this
stuff. You know, Hey, we're

491
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.039
XFL fans here, were us of
bel fans. We're used to teams with

492
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:01.680
losing records making the playoffs here all
the time. Jason kind of what your

493
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:06.839
overall she thought your Stampeter season now
that we're here, Yeah, it's been

494
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.839
a really struggling season for them.
I feel like they've had so many injuries.

495
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:14.680
I mean, they're injured list is
crazy, and really everybody's gotten hurt

496
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.720
except for the quarterback. And you
know, Jake Mayer, I think is

497
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.000
the only quarterback in the league to
start all eighteen games this season. So

498
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.400
I mean it's supporting from that perspective
to see where the record is considering they've

499
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.599
had their quarterback healthy the whole year, whereas the rest of the league hasn't.

500
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.400
But I think that, you know, the receivers outside of Reggie Bagleton

501
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.319
have not produced the way that they've
wanted to. They've had a lot of

502
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.279
injuries in that regard. You know, Jaleen phil Potter, guy that they

503
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.440
are really counting on coming end of
the year, but he couldn't stay healthy,

504
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.359
didn't really be health, wasn't really
healthy at the beginning of the season.

505
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.319
So I think at the end of
the day, it's been a really

506
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.400
struggling season for Calgary, But like
Ryan said, they aren't the team that's

507
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.920
gonna miss the playoffs that break that
playoff streak. So I think at the

508
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.759
end of the day, that's an
accomplishment of itself that they're able to just

509
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:06.839
keep that streak alive for another year. Kulvy, we came out last week,

510
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.680
we talked about it a little bit. I'll get Evans updated thoughts on

511
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.119
them, But first to you,
you know, same same standings as last

512
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.599
year, same playoff bracketing that what
do you make here? Going in here

513
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.440
running it back? How does that
feel as a CFL fan? It speaks

514
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.599
to just how bad these teams want
it And it's kind of funny to see

515
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:29.759
the exact same lineup, if you
will, from twenty twenty two to twenty

516
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.759
twenty three. But a lot of
people that's why you play the games.

517
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.200
Really, it's because a lot of
people were expecting Hamilton to be this outstanding

518
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:43.240
team with Bolivia leading the charge and
Saskatchewan. You know, they were expected

519
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.880
to to be gangbusters this year and
it just didn't work out. Blame it

520
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.359
on injury, blame it on whatever. At the end of the day,

521
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.279
you've got to play the games and
you got to win, simply put.

522
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.559
And for the team that didn't make
it, like no doubt, they're wondering

523
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.200
what the heck happened, and I'm
sure they've got any number of reasons why

524
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.160
it didn't work out for them.
But for the teams that are in it

525
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:05.119
again this year, even if it's
the exact same lineup as it was in

526
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.199
twenty twenty two, you still got
to play the games and there's still a

527
00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:12.039
possibility that we could see the exact
same thing happen again this year, or

528
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.119
we can see completely different once again. That's what makes the Canadian Football League

529
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.480
so much fun is that it's not
so cut and dry. It's not so

530
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.559
simple as saying, yeah, it's
gonna be Winnipeg Toronto again. It could

531
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.280
be You're absolutely right, but it
could be completely different. That's what makes

532
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.639
this so much fun. Evan,
what is the biggest surprise for you this

533
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.519
season and how everything maybe preseason you
know, perception going on to now and

534
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:40.559
you're muted year. That's a good
question. There were a lot of surprises

535
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:46.000
I think, you know, Saskatchewan
not getting more wins there and again,

536
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.320
you know, a lot that goes
into that, but Saskatchewan I was definitely

537
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:57.880
surprised about, I think once the
season got going again, like Calgary being

538
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.800
in this position, because I was
really pulling for Saskatchewan. I I thought

539
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.920
that again, even if they lost
a couple guys and you know, even

540
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.079
if things weren't perfect, that they
would still you know, get in the

541
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.719
playoffs and have some breathing room.
But you know, similar story to last

542
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.280
year obviously, where you know,
they just lose all those games you know

543
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:22.400
after September fourth or whatever that you
know date is that I'm sure Ryder fans

544
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.599
don't want to talk about, but
you know, uh, it's just yeah,

545
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:31.320
it's one of those things you know
where obviously now that's cost you know,

546
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:37.400
Craig Dickinson his job unfortunately. So
all those things I think were you

547
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.360
know that that was a surprise that
Saskatchewan wasn't able to do as well,

548
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.280
and then Calgary you know, being
in the playoffs now I think is almost

549
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.960
equally surprising. The other thing too, that you know isn't brought up a

550
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.000
lot, or maybe that I haven't
brought up a lot, is Ottawa.

551
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.159
I thought Ottawa was this was gonna
be their breakthrough year. You know,

552
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.800
you get my solely back, he's
healthy, you know, things look good.

553
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.079
I had had some questions about Bob
Dice obviously, now he's been renewed

554
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.119
to try and you know, keep
that whatever momentum they have going, even

555
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:08.320
if it's little. You know,
you're coming off a four win season.

556
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.599
But I really thought this was gonna
be Autawa's ear to piece things together.

557
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.840
And I feel like I've been saying
that, you know, ever since I

558
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.320
really started covering the CFL in depth, you know, which is over two

559
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.559
years ago. It just feels like
every year I'm like, this is it,

560
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:24.280
Like, you know, Red Blacks
are gonna get something going, and

561
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.039
I'm not. I'm not even talking
about like great Cup at all. I'm

562
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.159
just talking about playoff, you know, not being a four win team,

563
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:36.440
you know, at the bottom of
the East, who you know is having,

564
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.840
you know, once again, a
plethora of issues and it's kind of

565
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.960
I think, ultimately, what's disappointing
is you go into the offseason with more

566
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.960
questions than answers, you know,
and that's at the end of the day.

567
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:51.400
You know, sometimes if you're not
succeeding on the field, that's what's

568
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.480
gonna happen. So those I think, you know, Saskatchewan and Ottawa,

569
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:58.320
I would say, at least for
me, the biggest surprises. I know,

570
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.000
for a lot of other people,
it was Montreal. You know,

571
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:05.119
I think a lot of people expected
Montreal to be one of the you know,

572
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.360
worst teams in the CFL for you
know, lack of a better term.

573
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:12.960
I just think that again, everyone
viewed Montreal as being in rebuild mode.

574
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.239
But you know, they had enough
there. You know, I didn't.

575
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.559
I don't know if I expected them
to be in playoffs either, but

576
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.719
I think they had enough there to
to certainly do something. And well,

577
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.960
they won eleven games this year,
so clearly they've they've done a good job.

578
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.840
And you know, the fact that
there's a lot of new faces there,

579
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.360
Jason Moss, Cody Fajardo, et
cetera. The fact that they were

580
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.039
able to to, you know,
get eleven wins in year one under that,

581
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.480
I think that's a good sign.
Again, you know, playoffs are

582
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:42.960
a different game. We'll see what
happens here, you know, on Saturday

583
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.880
between between them and Hamilton. But
yeah, overall, I think that's that's

584
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.119
where I'm at with in terms of
surprises or at least things that I didn't

585
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.840
expect ran same to you going into
the season compared to now. The biggest

586
00:37:54.840 --> 00:38:00.000
surprise, well, I think,
I mean, I'm surprised stam Peders record

587
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.880
six and twelve isn't exactly what I
expected out of the stam Peters. But

588
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.800
I do think that injuries did play
a major part in this. I think

589
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:15.920
they made some offseason decisions that completely
backfired. I think getting rid of Derek

590
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:21.320
Dennis and Sean Lemon definitely didn't help. But you know, the loss of

591
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.840
James Vodds to injury, I had
a couple injuries along the offensive line at

592
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.320
the tackle position that didn't help,
even with the tackles that they do have,

593
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.519
and those receiver injuries. I mean, just you lose Malik Henry and

594
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.880
Jalen Philpott for the year early in
the season, then and then the team's

595
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.119
rookie of the year, Clark Barnes, goes down in the midway point,

596
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.800
and they're just trying to find anybody
that can catch a ball down the stretch.

597
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.639
So I think Calgary's record for me
was a big shot. I did

598
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:57.280
not expect the Sketchwan to be good
excuse me, this year, nor Edmonton.

599
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.960
I think they were right where I
thought they would be. I thought

600
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.559
Hamilton would be better than they were, especially in the early part of the

601
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:07.159
season. So that was a bit
of a shock to me. But it

602
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:14.199
seems like this season was ready for
a runback just like last year. You

603
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.679
know, every team that was good
was good last year, and they didn't

604
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:22.559
really lose a lot of players.
There wasn't substantial movement from free agency or

605
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.679
you know, big offseason acquisitions or
trades or anything like that. So it

606
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.840
didn't surprise me to see this bracket
be the same as it was last year.

607
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.920
Jason, for you, here,
we'll go around the horn and then

608
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.159
we'll get to the bcv A Lions
game. Here. Yeah, my most

609
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.840
surprising team has to be the Alouettes, who I actually predicted to be the

610
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:45.440
worst team in the CFL this season. I think the biggest thing that we

611
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:51.000
didn't see going into the season is
I thought the receiving corps was really lacking,

612
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.199
but then Austin Mack really came out
of nowhere and became this star and

613
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.679
one of the best receivers in the
league. So I think also another thing

614
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.440
that we underrated with them is the
ability of Jason Moss as an offensive play

615
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:05.800
caller. I think their offense has
been a lot better than what I expected.

616
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:07.079
I thought it was probably gonna be
the worst offense in the league coming

617
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.400
into the air, but they certainly
have not been that. And I underrated

618
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:14.199
their defense as well. I think
their defense has been one of the top

619
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.400
three units in the league this year
as well. Now for Calgary, I

620
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:21.920
think as well was disappointing for me
as well, because I actually had them

621
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:23.840
at second place in the West coming
into the year. I thought that,

622
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.400
you know, Jake Mayer was going
to be a guy that continues his ascension

623
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.440
as one of the best quarterbacks in
the league. But obviously that didn't happen.

624
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.840
He's kind of fallen flat this year. But I think there's some external

625
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.559
factors and I still think Jake Mahor
can be a starting quarterback in this league.

626
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.519
But I want to see what they
decided to do going into the offseason.

627
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.400
But yeah, I would have to
go to those two teams. I'll

628
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.599
give mine here and then on one
that we'll get to the matchup. I

629
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.000
just I'll say, really proud and
I've said this here, but really proud

630
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.719
of Vernon Adams. I think last
year and he was on preseason talking about

631
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.840
kind of how challenging it was for
him last year, and I'm you know,

632
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.320
I'm paying rent in Montreal and I'm
paying paying in Tacoma and I'm here

633
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.320
in BC and try to do like
put him in a really hard position.

634
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:08.760
I wasn't really impressed with him last
year. I thought, you know,

635
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.239
BC had such a huge lead in
the standings because of Nathan Rourke, like

636
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.360
we just basically needed not to fall
off a cliff. And I was just

637
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:19.119
really concerned this year, like what
does it look like, you know,

638
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.760
like with Jake Mayer with all the
pressure kind of being put on and super

639
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.159
just proud of Vernon and I think
that except for that one game against Toronto,

640
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.840
I think he's really played lights out
and just cool to see him playing

641
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.239
good, meaningful football where you know, if he had never gotten that opportunity

642
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.679
or god knows what happens with Montreal
and kind of all that other stuff.

643
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.159
We'll get to Ryan here with it, but we'll toss to Cliffy first.

644
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:44.599
In terms of this BC Calgary matchup, I'm a little scared here. I

645
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.719
don't you know. I know that
you can talk okay, meaningless games and

646
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.320
BC dropping to Calgary here a couple
of weeks back at what do you make

647
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:57.559
of this Western playoff matchup? I'm
like you, I'm a big Erneron Adams

648
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.320
guy. I definitely think he wasn't
given the opportunity to do what he does

649
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:05.679
best in Montreal. And I said
even at the start of the year,

650
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.039
let Vernon cook and good things are
going to happen for the BC Lions,

651
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:14.360
and sure enough, that's exactly what's
happened. I think he truly he's still

652
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.920
Vernon Adams though, in the sense
that he's got that gunslinger mentality and sometimes

653
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:21.519
he takes too many chances, but
that's what makes him big play va and

654
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:23.519
I think that's going to be the
big factor with him is the way this

655
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.159
BC offense is is like a runaway
freight train in a lot of ways,

656
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.880
in the sense that they just they
get it done. They just barrel over

657
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:36.559
and they score points. And I
think that's where Calgary is going to be

658
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.000
really tested if nothing else is,
because yeah, they've got offense as well.

659
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:44.599
I mean, I will definitely not
bet against Reggie Bagleton as far as

660
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:49.639
offensive production goes for Calgary. But
I think BC has all the tools truly,

661
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.079
like kind of like in Montreal,
like they just got to get it

662
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.639
done. They just got to execute
because Vernon Adams when he's on, he

663
00:42:54.760 --> 00:43:00.880
is almost unstoppable. Ryan. For
you here, I said, I was

664
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.599
very upset following the BC Lions e
the lost year, and I understand,

665
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.760
and you know, to me,
it felt like we were accepting second place

666
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.920
and like Winnipeg's going to win anyway
and it doesn't matter. I don't you

667
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.800
know. If I'm a BC fan
trying to build the local fan baser,

668
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.079
I would like to see a victory
of the last couple of weeks of the

669
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.239
season. But what do you make
of this, because to me, I'm

670
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:23.960
very fearful of this matchup. It
was interesting to me that before the game,

671
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.440
Vernon Adams came out and said we're
preparing to play on November fourth,

672
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.519
So it wasn't even it wasn't even
during the game where the Lions seemed to

673
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:37.920
give up and accept second place.
It seemed like they had done that even

674
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:45.119
beforehand before Calgary came in. And
I also wonder if this isn't BC trying

675
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.760
to choose their opponent, thinking that
they would rather play Calgary than play Saskatchewan.

676
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.039
And you know, at that point
you might get what you paid for

677
00:43:54.079 --> 00:44:00.920
in that instance. I think with
Kadem carry healthy and BCS aversion to stopping

678
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.199
the run game. You know,
you look last in the last game,

679
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.159
I think Calgary had two hundred and
eighty someone rushing yards between everybody combined.

680
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.840
That's a substantial amount of yards on
the ground. Peyton Logan can break and

681
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:23.639
score at any time, any given
play. I really like the idea of

682
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:30.760
Calgary coming out of this game and
winning it against BC. Vernon Adams can

683
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.519
can be big play va, but
he can also have a five interception day,

684
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.599
you know, and and you never
know which Vernon you're gonna get.

685
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:45.760
Vernon traditionally has played very well against
the stam Peters, but they got to

686
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.440
him with pressure, just three and
four man pressure in that last game.

687
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.519
So if all of a sudden,
the if all of a sudden the stam

688
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:00.519
Peters have been able to put things
together and BC doesn't play like V is

689
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.559
capable of playing. Calgary could come
out of this game. And I do

690
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.599
think whichever of the two teams wins
does go into b C, or it

691
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:13.559
does go into Winnipeg and beat the
Bombers. I've been standing on that all

692
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:17.480
season. I think the Bombers are
vulnerable in a playoff matchup, even more

693
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.840
so, even more so because they
haven't had anything to play for for a

694
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.199
month, and I think that all
of a sudden, this could be the

695
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.679
year of that the dynasty comes to
an end in Winnipeg. I'll give you

696
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.000
much like if it had been at
Montreal last year had made it to the

697
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.920
Great Cup. I think we have
a much better live Great Cup show in

698
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.119
Hamilton and BC is there. I
think we could probably pull up a few

699
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:45.639
more connections there. So nothing else
I am hoping for that well, I

700
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.280
mean, I think we've got a
better Great Cup if it's Calgary versus Hamilton,

701
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:55.000
and somehow you've got believe I Mitchell
against his old squad. I think

702
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:00.800
that's the best possible storyline of what's
left in these matchups. I think I

703
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:06.400
think the most fun you might have
in a Great Cup week is the idea

704
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:12.679
of Bowlie by Mitchell going against the
stamp Peters Because as much as it is

705
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:17.039
to have the stamp Peters East versus
the stam Peters West with Toronto and Calgary

706
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.639
in a Great Cup, I think
it would be much more fun to have

707
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:29.320
that that bow go that that bow
versus Calgary Great Cup And as bad as

708
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.599
six and twelve has been in the
regular season, and I don't deny that,

709
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.159
you know, it would also be
a little what's more CFL than a

710
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:42.159
six and twelve team making it to
the championship? Well, HASI we really

711
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.519
need the Marcats Bowl, We really
need them the Lions versus the ty Cats.

712
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.719
I think that's where the America wants
has the updated thoughts on this?

713
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.000
I know I was pretty heated here
following all the BC's stuff and now that

714
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.159
we've had a little bit any any
updated thoughts here at BC houst in Calgary.

715
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.400
Well, I think a lot of
it comes down to the game script,

716
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.000
because if BC can start fast,
you know, get out to a

717
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:07.000
lead, I don't think Calgary's a
team that's positioned to beat you and come

718
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.800
back with the passing game. I
think that if Calgary can get a lead

719
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:15.159
early in this game and keep the
running game involved and just go downhill on

720
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.079
the Lions. I think they have
a shot to pull off an upset here,

721
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:21.639
But in general, I still think
BC is probably going to win this

722
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.440
game. I don't think that they
really had the true motivation, like you

723
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.079
said, to try to win that
game the last time these two teams met.

724
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.639
So I still think I'm gonna go
with the Lions to win this game.

725
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.880
But at the end of the day, there is a formula for Calgary

726
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.440
to go in there and get a
win. Interesting here, just enough,

727
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:44.559
just I'm checking the schedule here trying
to figure this out. So BC hosting

728
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.800
Calgary and then I'll be at the
cracking game later that evening We're hosting the

729
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.719
Calgary Flame. So could really be
a could really be a Calgary kicking the

730
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:58.239
snot out of Seattle and Reed's hopes
and dreams across the board here Evan updated

731
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:02.800
thoughts here BC Calgary. Yeah,
I mean to put it very bluntly,

732
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:07.239
I don't think Calgary. Let me
put it this way, I think BAT

733
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:14.159
has a greater chance of going into
Winnipeg and beating them than Calgary does going

734
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.480
into BC and beating the Lions.
And I don't say that, you know,

735
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.480
with any disrespect. It's just you
know, Calgary, like I know,

736
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:27.119
they've flashed a bit here at the
end, right they beat Saskatchewan,

737
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.199
you know, to get into the
playoff position, and then Saskatchewan lost.

738
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.960
You know, there was that whole
thing. But I don't know, man,

739
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.760
I just like even with the flashes, and you know, we've seen

740
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.400
a lot of those flashes this season. Again, the one thing that I

741
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.000
think that's kept Calgary in it.
And you know, at least like preseason

742
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:49.880
when I was looking at stuff,
like Calgary has a lot of talent,

743
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.440
and they have you know, you
could argue that they might have more talent

744
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.400
than even some of the I don't
know, upper echelon of teams, or

745
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:59.199
at least some of the other playoff
teams. I don't know if you're matching

746
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.480
Toronto or Winnipeg, but in terms
of just you know, high upside,

747
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.519
high ceiling guys, Calgary has a
lot of those. You know, I'm

748
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.480
looking. I've looked at the roster
several times. It's very I like the

749
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:13.760
way it's constructed. But with that
being said, you know, BC,

750
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.400
I just I understand BC it's very
hot or cold, you know, And

751
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:22.079
a lot of that that we've seen
this year is based on the performance of

752
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.119
Vernon Adams. I know I've brought
it up before, but since we're going

753
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:28.280
in the playoffs, I'll bring it
up again. And this is nothing against

754
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.039
Vernon either. Everyone knows how much
I love Vernon. You know. This

755
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.559
is like a pro Vernon Adams show. I think we can all agree with

756
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.280
that. But anyways, you know, the thing with him is, you

757
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.840
know, when Vernon gets rolling,
I mean he gets rolling, you know,

758
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:45.280
like he won't stop. But you'll
see these games and it doesn't even

759
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.159
like we always bring up that Toronto
game earlier in the season. I forget

760
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.480
exactly when that was, but his
sixth interception game. We always kind of

761
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.920
use that as the prime example,
but it's happened other times against you know,

762
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.679
lesser opponents, for example, when
Ottawa played it. You see place

763
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:06.119
a bit more recently, Vernon,
you know, through an interception and it

764
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:07.239
was like, okay, it's fine, you know, shake it off.

765
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:12.000
But then he just kind of kept
doing it, you know, and it's

766
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.320
kind of a I really think it's
a mental kind of roadblock where you know,

767
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.480
it's one little mistake that kind of
kills, you know, all of

768
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.119
his momentum and you know his big
plays, which is you know, what

769
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.840
he's known for. I think I
the reason I like Vernon more than anybody,

770
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.719
and what I'm excited to see in
the playoffs is, you know,

771
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.480
and maybe it's just across the CFL
in general, but really really with him

772
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:37.760
more than anybody, he almost just
plays like backyard football. You know.

773
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.199
I just like him because he can
just go out there and sling it like

774
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:44.559
there's no tomorrow. You know,
it's just dot here, dot there.

775
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.119
You know, it doesn't really matter
who the receiver is, like, I'll

776
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.000
get it done. You know,
just goes out there and has a time.

777
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.960
You can tell he really has fun
doing it. So I'm excited to

778
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:58.239
hopefully see that Vernon in the playoffs. But you know, I understand that

779
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.039
as much as I'm sitting here saying, well, Calgary doesn't really have a

780
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.480
chance. Anything's possible, right,
I Mean, I think the one thing

781
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:09.159
you know that I'll give Calgary credit
for here is they just played each other

782
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:12.760
just kind of like how you know, we talked about Montreal and Hamilton coming

783
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:17.079
off their game BC and Calgary played
last week, you know, and that

784
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.039
game didn't go very well for BC. A lot of people were surprised by

785
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:22.559
that, you know, Vernon it
was this whole We're going to try and

786
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.480
get him the five thousand yards,
that he falters early, they pull him

787
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.480
for safety reasons. Dane Evans comes
in, Dane Evans doesn't look great either.

788
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:35.199
So, you know, Calgary I
think with that again, is that

789
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.519
an accurate representation of what BC is
going to bring to the table this weekend.

790
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.679
I don't think so. But at
the same time, Calgary had an

791
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.599
opportunity there to kind of exploit some
of BC's weaknesses, and you know,

792
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:50.159
having the opportunity to do that,
you know, a couple of weeks or

793
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.800
whatever before the playoffs, you know, that might give him a bit of

794
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:58.480
an advantage. It certainly might make
the game more competitive. I'm very firm

795
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.159
on a BC win, and if
that does not happen, I will be

796
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.719
more surprised than you know, maybe
even like I said, you know,

797
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:07.639
outcomes further down the road. You
know, we're talking East West Final,

798
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.199
Great Cup. I don't know,
but it's definitely going to be surprising to

799
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:15.000
me if the Stamps go in there
and make a statement, Cliffy, do

800
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:22.400
you agree with Ryan's whatever the right
word is the prognostication that whoever goes into

801
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.760
Winnipeg is going to deep throw on
the Bombers. You know what. I

802
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.760
can see where Ryan's coming with this, and he's he's not wrong in his

803
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:35.639
assessment. I mean, I think
Winnipeg. I don't know, A lot's

804
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.400
been made of how well Brittie la
Vera's played this year, and a lot

805
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.639
of people were upset that zach Claro's
isn't going to get a chance to have

806
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:45.920
that opportunity to be a three peat
winner of the MLP Award. And is

807
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.880
it coming down to just the style
of play that zach Claro's does and how

808
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:57.199
he responds on game day. It's
once again it's something that only zach Claro's

809
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.320
and Brittiella of eric In answer as
far as how they prepare for each game.

810
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.679
But is the fatigue starting to set
in just a little bit like that?

811
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.000
I don't want to say great Cup
hangover, because Winnipeg has have been

812
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.239
absolutely outstanding this year, but how
bad do they want it? I guess

813
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:14.199
and I see where Ryan's coming from
when it comes to that, Like I

814
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.320
mean, I won't say they're prime
for an upset, but if this,

815
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:22.000
whether it's BC or Calgary that goes
into the Western Final, they're going to

816
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.280
be on a high. They're gonna
be on a momentum. And will Winnipeg

817
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.599
be ready for that? Like it's
easy for them to say, yeah,

818
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.360
we've been hosting the Western Final now, I think it's the past three seasons

819
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:36.760
they've been hosting the Western Final.
It's kind of become, you know,

820
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:40.599
par for the Coors, our status
quo. Even for them, the possibility

821
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:44.039
for an upset is definitely something to
consider. I mean, I think Winnipeg's

822
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:45.920
a very good team, there's no
question. But I think that, yeah,

823
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:50.039
whoever's got the hot hand is going
to win that game, and it

824
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.119
could very well be the winner of
BC and Calgary. Yeah that whole the

825
00:53:53.239 --> 00:54:00.360
whole mop thing with Zach Klaros and
you know, going crazy, that's a

826
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.119
conversation for another day. But I
guess, yeah, Ran, what's here?

827
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:06.440
I thought, Ryan get a reaction
to that. Let's get Ryan sas

828
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.079
on that before it gets because we'll
put this the better here to see.

829
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:12.239
But that, I mean, Dunk
was still going crazy about that on Friday,

830
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:16.639
night I saw, Yeah, Dunk's
a quarterback, so Dunk will always

831
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:23.639
say it's the quarterback. Brady Olivera
had two thousand yards from scrimmage and was

832
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:31.400
dominant all season. Zach Kalaros,
Zach Claros is suffering from comparisons to himself

833
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:38.480
in this situation because he wasn't the
Zach Klaros from last year or the year

834
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:45.440
before. He was okay, but
not great. Was he outstanding, not

835
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:51.559
by comparison to other players at his
position in the league this year. So

836
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.320
that's why for me it was Brady
Olivera. That's not that's not a question.

837
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.440
But Dunk as a quarterback, you
know that that's obviously gonna be a

838
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:07.480
great topic to generate discussion. And
of course Dunk is the quarterback, is

839
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.079
gonna is going to root for the
quarterback. Yeah, you know, it's

840
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.960
uh, there's just like I don't
know, I have great respect and I

841
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.159
think it's a difference of like a
Canadian versus American thing too, Like I

842
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.440
put on my self identity of being
an American a lot lower on like how

843
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.440
do I identify myself on like a
day to day basis, or I think

844
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.079
that like someone like dunk or or
like being the Canadian I think the ranks

845
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:34.280
higher and you're like, this is
how I like personally identify, So I

846
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:36.559
just, you know, I think
that goes into it as well. But

847
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:38.519
you know you would think you going
Brady on that. Before we get out

848
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:43.239
of here, let's go around the
horn. Let's start with Jason predictions for

849
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.599
the final two and then you know, you kind of whatever, do your

850
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.960
little playoff predictions. Jason. However, you I met know you're gonna do

851
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:51.039
a whole video about it too,
But we'll go around the horn here.

852
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.719
Yeah, like you said, I'll
be doing a full video breaking this all

853
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:58.519
down and also predicting the award winners
as well. But as for my Great

854
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.280
Cup matchup, I'm gonna go with
the one. I'm gonna go with Winnipeg

855
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:05.320
and Toronto. I think it's gonna
be a great clash of Titans, and

856
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.320
I think that at the end of
the day, I'm gonna go with Winnipeg

857
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:12.880
to win this time. Toronto historically
has had a really good run in Great

858
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.639
Cup games. I believe they haven't
lost one since nineteen eighty something, the

859
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:19.880
ones that they've been in, So
it would kind of go against the trend

860
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.880
of history. But I'm gonna go
with Winnipeg to get revenge and win it

861
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.920
this year, and then we'll good
to you. Yeah, I don't know

862
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.599
if I have a prediction going all
the way to the Great Cup yet,

863
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:31.719
I definitely have some ideas, and
I'm sure we'll talk about more of those

864
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:36.320
next week, depending on how you
know these next two games go the first

865
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:38.760
round of playoffs here, but I
think, you know, based on everything

866
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:45.599
that I've said, you know here
today, I'll take Hamilton over Montreal in

867
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.519
the upset. I think it'll be
very close either way. I just think

868
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.920
Hamilton again has a tiny bit more
momentum right now. They might not be,

869
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.400
you know, the more complete team, the more full team, but

870
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.440
I just I really like what they've
done here in the second half of the

871
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.280
season, and I really don't think
that that can be overlooked. And then,

872
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.639
like I've already said, with BC
and Calgary, I think BC,

873
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.880
you know, in the right circumstance, I think they could drop forty on

874
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.280
Calgary. Again. I don't mean
that in any disrespectful way. I just

875
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:19.400
think that, you know, the
Lions, like they again, once that

876
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.760
team gets rolling, the they really
they really get rolling. So I'm excited

877
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:27.079
to see what Vernon can do in
that game. And obviously that you know,

878
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.920
the rest of his receivers seems like
they have an endless amount of guys

879
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:32.079
that he can throw to. And
then, you know, I know,

880
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:37.480
we don't talk a lot about defense
here much, or maybe we should more

881
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:42.440
going forward, but you know,
seeing guys like Matthew Betts, who you

882
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:46.639
know, broke the Canadian sack record, you know, seeing guys like him,

883
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:51.480
you know, take care of business
and maybe be the closer in that

884
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:57.039
game, that's equally exciting. So
I think I'm gonna take BC and Hamilton

885
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.159
for the two games coming up here. Ryan, what do you got?

886
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.199
I mean, I I think Calgary
can take it all the way. I

887
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.519
don't see why not. All they
have to do is hold on to a

888
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:15.599
pass. This team has has led
the league all season and drop passes and

889
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:21.360
and Jake Mayer's numbers have suffered as
a result. He finds open receivers,

890
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.400
he hits them in the hands,
and if this is the time of year

891
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:27.280
where you're able to catch a ball, then all of a sudden the stam

892
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.119
Peters can get it done. They
showed just two weeks ago that they can

893
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:36.400
drop forty on BC and and limit
their offense to the point where you did

894
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:40.280
chase Vernon Adams away from chasing a
five thousand yard season, and Dane Evans

895
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:45.440
was completely ineffective in his own right. I think BC has the opportunity to

896
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:51.199
get open. But you know,
who knows what stam Peters team will show

897
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:52.760
up this week. If it's the
good version of the stam Peters, then

898
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:58.280
all of a sudden, they've got
themselves the potential of a victory out in

899
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.880
the East. You know, again, if the only thing I wanted to

900
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:06.639
see this season was a Calgary Hamilton
Great Cup, then I'm gonna have to

901
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:12.360
continue rooting for Hamilton. With apologies
to my good buddy Cliff, but I

902
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.880
think I'm gonna have to keep rooting
for Hamilton to get there, just so

903
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.239
that we can have that storyline that
weekend, because I think Winnipeg Toronto is

904
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.599
a rematch is boring, you know, from a storyline perspective. I don't

905
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:28.840
know that there's that kind of you
know, hatred there or fuel to the

906
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:32.000
story beyond just Hey, these are
two good teams, and the best teams

907
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:36.719
made it and that's boring to watch, you know. I think it's way

908
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.559
more fun if we watch two teams
that struggled all season, one of them

909
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:44.400
come away with a champion. And
why can't it be the Stampeders with the

910
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:50.800
fewest wins to qualify for a playoff
spot in the eighteen game era? Accepting

911
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:58.159
the US expansion years which we which
we ignore cliff final thoughts, predictions review,

912
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:04.559
well again, I with with respect
to everybody else, as I stand

913
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:08.039
on what Darnelle Sank said that he
said we're gonna win the next five games

914
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:12.480
and we're gonna win the Great Cup. And so far he's kept his word.

915
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:16.280
They've won the last five games.
Now they've got to do the second

916
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.320
part and win the Great Cup,
and it starts against Hamilton. I think

917
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:22.559
he'll be a fun match. I
think he'll be very competitive, and I

918
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.400
think Montreal has just that much more
to get past Hamilton. Despite the fact

919
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.960
Garret Davis is playing for the Tiger
Cats and has made the Great Cup every

920
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.400
year of his career, I think
that streak comes to an end on Saturday.

921
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.320
My heart is going for a BC
Montreal Great Cup. To me,

922
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:44.480
that's a no lose situation for me
because, like I said, a big

923
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:46.920
Burnams guy, so I'd be happy
to see him play for and win a

924
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.840
Great Cup. And of course i'd
want Montreal to be in a Great Cup.

925
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:55.159
But my head is saying though,
realistically, I'd say would have to

926
01:00:55.159 --> 01:01:01.880
be Toronto versus whoever wins is the
Western Final, because any number of those

927
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:07.159
teams can win that game. But
when Toronto makes it to the Great Cup,

928
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.960
they don't lose, and until that
happens, you have to go with

929
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:20.480
them. So my heart b c
Montreal. My head will say, you

930
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.400
know what, I'll be fun Calgary
Toronto and unfortunately, as we've seen over

931
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:28.800
the years, when Calgary plays Toronto
in the Great Cup, Toronto invariably wins.

932
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.280
Well, I look, I just
want whatever is the best Great Cup

933
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:36.199
show whatever, ye maybe we get
Pinball back on if Toronto's in there.

934
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:37.960
I mean, there's lots of algamations
where we could get some good guests on.

935
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:42.519
Ken did have a question about the
location of the Great Cup show before

936
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.119
we get out. I'm working with
trying to get us in with one of

937
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:50.519
the team one of the team locations
there. You can probably guess which team

938
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.159
in terms of kind of that whole
fan activity. Otherwise, there's a bar

939
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:55.880
there across the street from the convention
center we're going to be at. Right,

940
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.840
it's the Anchor Bar, right,
I'll see there. That's our back

941
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.320
TSN rented out the entire George Hamilton
where we were at two years ago.

942
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:06.440
It was such a good location.
They say, hey, we're going to

943
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:08.320
write that out. So we'll either
be at Anchor Bar. We're kind of

944
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:10.800
TVD scheduled there, or else.
I would like to get in with the

945
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:14.559
teams just because I think more people
would be milling around. But either way

946
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:16.960
we'll be there. It could be
convenient for everyone and hopefully the guests and

947
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:21.440
stuff as well. I appreciate Ryan
and Cliff hopping on here during the day,

948
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:23.800
and obviously Jason and Evan here for
doing this every week here for the

949
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.920
last twenty one weeks. We'll see
you guys next week. Look for XFL

950
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:34.000
USFL hopeful news this week. We'll
do all that kind of stuff. And

951
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.960
then Naylor owed me an interview last
week and he was traveling for the Bills

952
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.880
game. So maybe we'll get Naylor
on this week because he owes me that.

953
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.480
So like can subscribe. Thanks to
everyone and we'll see you next time.

954
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:46.360
Thank you very much.