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On our show. We have Todd
Partain, the director producer of the documentary

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Eyes in the Dark the Sasquatch experience
the pleasure to have him joining us.

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Also the Mouth of the South Henry
May and the former Secretary of State James

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Baker neglected group we have tonight.
Hey, let's start us off with some

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news, mister, Oh, some
news. Well, let's see now our

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good friend Lauren Coleman, he's going
to be on the Coast Coast AM tomorrow

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night. That will be at the
one am Eastern midnight Central usually usually George

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Nori has the gifts the kirtchins of
a logical gift song for three hours,

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like the last three hours of the
show. So it'll be from two am

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or three am to six am Eastern. No, no, no, no,

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two am to five am Eastern one
am before am Central. Don't you

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hay time zones? Yeah, I
really do. Here's a little interesting news,

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and I'm on the Dover Demon.
Those of you we are not familiar

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with the Dover Demon. It's it
was some kind of a creature which was

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seen in Dover, I think,
Massachusetts. It was about four feet tall

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with a thin body and arms glowing
eyes and a huge egg shaped head with

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some kind of weird looking creature that
doesn't not at all attractive. No,

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no, it doesn't. And you're
putting that on a eHarmony dot com A.

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Yeah, sure, thirty years since
that creature was seen in the Dover

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area, No wonder it's ugly April
twenty first, April twenty second, nineteen

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seventy seven. So thirty years this
this this weekend. You know, I

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want to hear this is kind of
an anniversary for us. Sean, this

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is our six month anniversary tonight,
exactly six months ago the chief as you

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didn't even send me flowers. We
had Tim Cansty on. He was our

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first guest and he's been on since
the so you know, this is kind

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of a special night for us.
Guys. It's reminding everybody that the third

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season of The Sasquatch Experience starts July
first with Todd Nie. Yeah, a

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great show. It's going to be
a great show. Every show we have

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is great. Yeah, but speaking
of great shows, that we might as

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well start kicking one off. Tonight, we got Todd Partain with us and

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who sent me a copy of his
documentary, and folks, it's well worth

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the price of admission to see this. I enjoyed it, and it couldn't

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have gotten here in better timing because
I received my copy yesterday because for some

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reason, the postal service thought it
was funny to mail my mail to my

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grandparents in Florida. Yeah, so
it finally got here and I watched it,

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and it was well worth the way, and I enjoyed every minute of

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it. So, without further ado, welcome to the show, Todd Partain

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the Sasquatch Experience. Thank you so
much. It's a pleasure to be here

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tonight. Guys. It's the pleasure
to have you. You know. The

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one thing, and I was talking
to you before we went on air,

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it is the one thing I appreciated
the most of a documentary, you know,

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minus the interviews, what was the
the you know, the the retelling

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of the encounter that you and your
family had, you know, and in

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the trailer, and one thing you
said to me that was really important.

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I never saw anything because I was
too scared. But but even without seeing

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anything, that must have been one
truly horrifying experience. It was absolutely horrifying,

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and it's left such a mark on
me that even at this very moment

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as we speak, just to think
back on it and to talk about it

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is you know, I've got the
chills once again. You know, you

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get the goosebumps from it. And
I mean, it was just it left

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such a mark on me that you
know that it's brought me to this place

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that I'm at today, you know. So it's a it was. It

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was a heck of an experience,
especially for a kid that was five years

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old, and you know, just
very traumatic. And but at the same

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time, it opened my mind probably
to a lot of things that I never

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would have had my mind open to
had I not had that experience. So

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in a way, I'm you know, it was kind of a bad thing,

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but in the same way it was
it was a good thing. You

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know. I think, like a
lot of people who have had a subsquatch

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sighting or or something in that nature, you spend a lot of your time

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wanting to relive it because it's a
it's such a rare and special event that

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even when it's a terrifying event,
it's it's something still that you're just like,

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you know, you can never forget
about it. And I guess it's,

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uh, you get hooked and you
know, very much like if you

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ever watched Terry and the Henderson's which
is coming out on Tuesday. Yeah,

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by the way, Yeah, if
you ever watch that movie, you know

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there's a there's a point there where
the guy describes how he got hooked on

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Bigfoot. And you know, odds
are if you do have an experience,

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you're probably gonna have one. If
you're lucky, you have more than one.

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But then you spend the rest of
your life like just you know,

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it's it's an addictive thing. It's
really a you know, it's it's just

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really I don't know, it pulls
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whole a whole other world of conjecture. And the odd thing about it was,

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I didn't really talk about it a
lot when I was a kid,

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and it was only here in the
past five or six years or so that

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I really started to explore what happened
that night, go over it with my

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family and and bring it out into
the open and discuss it. And it

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unlocked a lot of memories. Uh, my younger brother, you know,

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he had shut the whole thing out
and had forgotten about it, and we

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just kind of we opened the door
back up you know, and he would

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call me up later. He lives
quite a ways away from me, and

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he called me because, you know, I remember some more stuff about that

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night. He goes, you know, I'd forgotten about it and shut it,

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blocked it out of my mind.
And I was like, yeah,

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that's a you know, I was
never able to really do that. How

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your parents and you know, still
relate to that situation. For your mother,

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that must have been truly terrifying.
It was truly terrifying. I've never

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in my life actually witnessed my mother
lose her composure and and actually show fear

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in front of me, you know, but that night she did, and

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I mean it was obvious reasonably.
So yeah, and you know, when

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you're a kid and you're when you're
five years old, and you see fear

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in your mother's faith and you know, and your grandmother, and it's obvious

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that you know, and they're and
they're talking and and furtively, you know,

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speaking about what they need to do, and they're running around and and

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trying to find a gun and and
all this other stuff. I mean,

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you realize you've got a lot to
worry about, and it's a pretty terrifying

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experience. Yeah, just I mean, just an awful, awful thing.

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But at the same time, you
know, something that's just will always be

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there, It will always be in
my mind. And just go over the

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story of the Encarnor for us.
Okay, Well, it was about nineteen

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seventy five. We were every about
every other weekend or so. I was

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about five years old. Me and
I had an older brother, his name

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was Keith. A younger brother,
his name's Kirk. We would travel up

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to Arkansas my grandfather and we would
visit him. My grandfather was the sort

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of the town police chief if you
want to call him that, more like

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a probably more of an Andy Taylor
at Maybury kind of situation than you know,

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any kind of a big time thing
because of a small town in glen

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Wood. It was called Glenwood in
Arkansas, and he lived. He had

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just acquired a trailer house on the
side of a mountain at nearby Keddo Gap,

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which is right next to Glenwood.
Now, anybody that does any kayaking

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or canoeing knows that area, well, in this area in Louisiana and Arkansas

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and whatnot, because that's just a
prime area to go canoeing and kayaking and

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it's just a beautiful place. But
back then it was largely an unpopulated area

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and my grandfather had just got in
this place, and I remember we went

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up and I remember we drove up
a mountain, you know, and it

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was pretty harrowing getting up there.
And we got up there and we played

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outside. I remember we weren't allowed
to go very far away from the actual

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trailer house. And it was kind
of an interesting day. You know,

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We're surrounded by the woods, and
you know, kids are kids no matter

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where you go. We're doing kids
stuff, you know, And there was

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kind of a different feeling in the
air. Can't really describe it, but

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there was that, you know,
kind of a I don't know, it

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was just almost like the you know, like when the hair stands up on

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the back of your neck. I
don't want to say that we felt like

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we were being watched, but there
was a different feeling about where we were

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that day. But you know,
as a kid, you just you don't

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really you just kind of shut that
out and just go and do your kids

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stuff and play and fight with your
brothers and do all the normal stuff you

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do. Well, it started getting
dark, and my grandfather deputized my father,

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and he would do this pretty regularly
when we went to visit and my

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father and my grandfather was his father
in law. They would go out on

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patrol, in patrol the area of
Glenwood, Arkansas and Cattle Gap, and

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they were gone on patrol, and
so it was just me and my two

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brothers and my mother and my grandmother. We were all in there and we

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were doing typical you know, getting
late kind of stuff. We got called

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in. There was one point I
would like to make while we were outside

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playing, there was at one point
like just right before we get called in,

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and it might actually have had something
to do with us getting called inside.

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We heard a loud call of some
kind and it was I seemed to

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remember even discussing with my older brother
and he said it was an owl or

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something, but thinking back, it
was way too loud and way too strong

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to be an owl. And it
was about that time my mother stuck her

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hit out and said kids, get
inside. And so we got inside,

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and you know, it wasn't like
it was, oh, there something to

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worry about. It was like,
oh, come on in, it's getting

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dark. You know, it's time
to get something to eat. So we

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did that and we were going about
our business and my older brother was sitting

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on the couch eating a sandwich,
and I myself and my younger brother,

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Kirk, who was about a year
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about four years old at the time. We were sitting at the table eating

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our spaghettios and alphabet soup or whatever
it was, and we noticed that my

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older brother sitting on the couch kept
putting his hand up over his eyes and

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shielding his eyes like a person would
do if they were shielding their eyes from

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the sun they're outside. And thought
that was pretty odd, you know,

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so asked him what was going on? And in me my mother seeing what's

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going on? Keith, what's what's
the problem, And he goes, there's

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something looking at me through the window
and the door. Now, the door

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to that trailer home had the old
jeluice type windows that crank open, just

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a bunch of glass loovers and there's
a little there's a little crank on the

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inside there and you crank it and
the little lovers would open for ventilation and

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whatnot. And the top loover,
the loovers in there they had some kind

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of diffused glass in them, but
the top one apparently had been broken out

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and replaced, and it had a
clear pane of glass in it. Well,

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what he saw was looking at him
to the top loover of the glass.

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Now, this we hadn't we hadn't
heard any noise. There was no

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no indication that anything was outside at
all. And of course, you know,

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there was a like a there was
a little porch out on front this

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trailer that had just been put in. It was made out of two by

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fours and pretty solid. I remember
it was stained with a red stain.

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But so we we all reacted to
this, you know, immediately upon hearing

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it there was something looking inside.
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oh no, there's nothing out there. And so my mother immediately walks up

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to the door, she looks out
and just she just let out a gasp,

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and her reaction was just one of
she turned around and you know,

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looked at my grandmother and just to
see the fear in her face that I

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saw that night, I will never
forget it, because that was instantly when

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that was when the adrenaline just kind
of shot through me, you know,

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and I immediately was I was immediately
terrified because I could tell she had seen

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something that had just terrified her.
So she had let out a gas and

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she went immediately when we started talking
to my grandma, and they were very

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animated, and my grandmother went over
the door, but apparently she didn't see

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anything, or if she did,
I don't remember if he actually saw anything

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or not. But I remember they
got a blanket and they attached the blanket

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somehow over the door so that this
creature could not see it anymore. Well,

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apparently that made it pretty mad because
it started making noises. The thing

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I remember after that was there were
grunts. It sounded like like a growling,

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a really low growl. And the
thing that I remember the most is

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the breathing. You could tell it
was something huge outside because it was it

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was breathing, and you could just
tell from the It reminded me still even

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today, of like when you hear
a bull or a horse breathing. It

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was that kind of a huge,
kind of a sound of you know,

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there's there's a large lung capacity that's
going on there. And there it was

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pushing on the doct memories, pushing
on the trailer house a little bit,

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and I can remember it it hitting
the side, slapping almost like a slap,

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and it did that for a little
while, kind of along the front,

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and then apparently it worked its way
around the trailer. And at this

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point, my mother and my grandmother, you know, they're searching for weapons.

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So they go and they get they
find a shotgun, but they don't

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have any shells for it. The
only thing they can find are some thirty

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eight caliber bullets, and of course
the bullets aren't going to work in the

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shotgun, and the thirty eight is
of course gone with my grandfather because he's

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on patrol with my dad. So
there's you know, there's not a lot

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they can do in the way of
protecting us except just get us. They

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got us under the dining room table. I remember being hunkered under the dining

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room table with my two brothers,
and there's not my memory kind of I

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lose. There's a part of my
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was because I was so terrified.
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kind of disappears right there. I
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out of my wits. You know, I will not look at any window

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in the house because I'm just I'm
terrified, because I don't want to see

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what this is. And I wasn't
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I thought was that the devil was
outside. You know, I had

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no idea what it was. Only
it was the Boogeyman was outside. And

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so whatever it was, it came
around to the back door. Now,

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on this particular trailer house, that
back door was right by the table that

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we were all cowering under, and
I can remember it pulling on the doorknob,

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and I can remember pushing, and
the strange thing, the odd thing

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that strikes me is that it never
put its arm through a window. It

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never pushed on the window, and
I've always thought that was a very odd

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thing. So it pulls on the
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it doesn't turn the doorknob. That
particular door was actually the lock was broken

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on it. It would not lock, and had it turned the doorknob,

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the door would have opened. But
it didn't turn the doorknob. So we

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have that going on. We've got, you know, terrified kids, And

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after a while it seemed to kind
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bothering us, and then it kind
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other structure within probably a mile of
that place at the time was an old

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shack. You'd say it was an
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I guess it was being used for
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it moved on to that location and
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We could hear it, like tearing
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hearing a scream or anything like that, but it was. It was pretty

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radical night, you know, obviously, and so they got us in the

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bed, got us under the blankets
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the next the next morning is about
the next thing I remember after that,

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and that next morning, you know, we'd beat a hasty retreat.

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didn't leave until Sunday. Well,
this was a Saturday morning, and I

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thought it was odd because I wanted
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you know, the evening before,
and we always stayed, you know,

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the entire weekend when we went up
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that next morning we were gone and
I remember we were getting out and you

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know, the parents were loading up
the station wagon and and we were stopped

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and he saw the damage outside,
and I mean we stopped to take a

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look at it, you know,
the kids, me and my brothers did,

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and that's when we saw the footprints. The first thing that immediately grabbed

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my attention that that morning was when
I stepped out on the porch. I

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was told my dad told me,
the watch where you're stepping, because there's

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holes in the porch. And sure
enough, there were these big holes stomped

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through the porch and one of the
steps had been stomped through, and I

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mean it was just, you know, it was obviously something with a lot

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of strength or weight had been on
there. Yet we never heard it make

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a sound until it got angry,
and then of course we saw those meal

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the footprints, and I mean that
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I could have written the whole thing
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have written it off as you know, a large cat. But you know,

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the image of those tracks will always
be in my head. As a

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matter of fact, the one that
was closest to the stairs is the one

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I focused on and it was a
it was a huge human footprint. I

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mean that's what it looked like to
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And I can remember this. The
soil there was a I want to

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say it was like a shell,
like a crushed shell, kind of slate,

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kind of stuff, like a very
fine flakes of rock basically, and

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you could see it really well.
You know that that it was not any

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It could not have been anything but
a humanoid type footprint. The toes had

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a grade on them, just like
a human foot does. It was long,

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it was very long, and of
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I mean it looked huge to me
then, but I'm sure it would still

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have looked huge to me now.
The thing that I also got my attention

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was that, you know, I
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and neither could I couldn't tell that
my father was leaving any really deep

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discernible tracks. If these tracks were
about maybe an inch deep inch and a

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half deep. Yet you know my
father was walking around, he was barely

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leaving a mark, and I just
thought it was very you know, that

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image stuck in my head, and
that's when you know, the first mentioned

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between me and my older brother of
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that's when that first comes to mind. And that was the first time I

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didn't even registered in my mind that
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not just you know, some monster
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much. That's pretty much my story. My older brother, who was the

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first one to see the eyes looking
through the window, he passed away several

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years ago, about probably three years
now, And one of the things that

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bothered me was I had never really
gotten his story down on tape. Really

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well. I did sit down with
them years ago and get everyone to tell

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their version on videotape, and the
tape was handed over to a production company

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for another movie that I know at
least one of you guys that's familiar with.

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We never got the tape back and
so I lost it. So the

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record that I have of his his
actual experience, I lost. And it

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came to really, I came to
really station, you know that. You

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know, I've lost my grandfather,
so I can't get his version of the

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story anymore. My little brother's on
the other side of the country, so

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you know, it's kind of impossible
for me to get him down on tape

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again. So let me sit down
and get who I can get, my

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parents and myself, and so I
did that and and it was it was

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it was after that that I heard
about the Texas Bigfoot Conference and I said,

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you know, I gotta, I
gotta go down there. And my

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wife's like, are you crazy?
What are you talking about? Bigfoot conference?

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And I said, they're having a
bigfoot conference. You of course,

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my wife, you know, practical, you know joker that she is,

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well, what is bigfoot going to
be there? You know, well,

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no, but a lot of people
that you know are interested in it will

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be there. And so I went
down and I interviewed some folks, and

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you know, I was a really
lucky guy I met. You know,

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bigfooters are some of the greatest people
that you'll ever meet, because these folks

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sat down, you know, took
time out of their day to sit there

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and let me fiddle around with my
video camera and and you know, my

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little kit and gear and all that, and they let me put mics on

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them and they sat there and they
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think there's anything more interesting than that. And to me, the whole purpose

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of what I was doing. I've
accomplished that, and I want to keep

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doing it, and that is to
get people's stories down first person, from

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their own lips, so that the
world will know that there are people out

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there who have seen this thing.
There are people out there who have experienced

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it in one way or another,
and it's and it's it changes your life

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to a certain degree because it lets
you know that there are things in the

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world that you know that we in
our modern so called society, that we

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ignore or we try to you know, poo poo or whatever and call it

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nonsense, but you know, in
fact it's true. And so that's basically

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been the focus of what I've been
working on. Now touched, I think

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back to just the sighting for a
minute, and how long if you were

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to give an approximation of time,
do you think this whole ordeal lasted.

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I think we're probably talking about somewhere
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That's a pretty long time. I
mean, most experiences of sightings, encounters

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you don't hear of, you know, lasting that long. And I think

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that's just, you know, a
very rare in itself and unfortunate that you

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had to go through such an ordeal, but you're very observant, you're able

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to take some details from that and
then later on really go back and do

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a more thorough and investigation. I
think that's remarkable. Well, you know,

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it's it was. It's an obsession. I mean it was. It's

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always been an obsession of mine to
know what happened that night, because the

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first thing I wanted to do is
I wanted to you know, when you're

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a kid, you can you deal
with things. I don't know what it

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is about when you're a child,
you can deal with things better without becoming

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obsessed about it really badly. But
I guess I was obsessed to a certain

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point because it was after that experience
a couple of years later when I really,

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you know, became a good reader
and everything, and I would go

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to the library and I would seek
books out on cryptids. Of course,

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you know, they weren't called cryptids
back then, they were just called monsters.

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And so you know, I thought
out books about sea monsters and lockmous

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monster and Bigfoot and everything I could
read, because I guess I wanted to

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ask myself the question, is it
possible you know that what happened that night,

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that what I think happened that night
happened. And the thing that,

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you know, I always go back
to the footprint. I could have written

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it off as anything else that hadn't
been for the footprints, and the footprints

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were just I mean not a bear
track. I mean, I've made a

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point in my life to you know, really check out bear tracks. I've

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actually gone and where there was a
place in Doverley, Louisiana where they had

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a black bear running around, and
I actually went out and took a look

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at some bear tracks there one time, just so I could see bear tracks

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with my own two eyes, so
that I could say to myself, you

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know, could could have been in
a black bear or something of that nature.

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But but after seeing the bear tracks
that I've seen, bears do not

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have the gradient toe structure that that
was present on those tracks. Bears tend

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to have a toe structure that's longer
in the middle in sort of grades downward

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on both in both directions to the
left hand end, right hand side.

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These tracks were I mean, they
were just humanoid. And I don't know

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any other way to put it.
I mean, I can I'm not a

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scientist. You know, I'm not
a I'm not a bigfoot expert, and

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some people think that I am.
But I'm just a guy that had something

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very strange happened to him when he
was a kid, and I've been obsessed

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since that day of final out,
you know, you know what the deal

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is. So that's how I got
into the whole Bigfoot thing. And I

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know there's a lot of people who've
you know, they've read books and gotten

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into it, and I, you
know, wish I was. I wish

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I had the luxury of being able
to say that Bigfoot doesn't exist, because

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there's a lot of people that I've
encountered since I've pretty much come out into

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public with what happened when I was
a kid, and I've encountered a lot

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of people that are like, oh, come on, you know, I

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don't believe in such a thing.
And you know, I don't feel like

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I have to prove to anybody that
Bigfoot exists, because I know that Bigfoot

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exists just from my own experience.
I've just made up my mind that was

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made up for me. Actually,
my mind was made up for me back

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in nineteen seventy five. So it's
not even a question to me of who's

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right who's wrong. I think there's
people out there who know the truth,

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and there are other people out there
who or bath have been misled by all

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the negative media attention that Bigfoot gets
and all the you know, all the

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bad stuff that we have to deal
with in this field of the hoaxing and

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everything else. That really is just
pushing back the definition the eventual classification of

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this unclassified primate or unclassified hominide,
I should say. And it's really all

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there is to it. And you
know what's really funny about this whole thing

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is is, you know, guys, I'm just I'm a telephone lineman.

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You know, I'm not a scientist. I'm just an ordinary Joe. I

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did the film because it was something
that needed to be done. I mean,

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I've worked in the media before,
and that was the reason I had

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the equipment to do what I did, and I had the equipment laying around.

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I used to shoot wedding videos for
a living. Before that, I

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worked for the cable company make TV
commercials. But I kind of gone on

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to the telephone company because I needed
to make a living. But that question

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was always in the back of my
mind and just every time that I would

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think about it, like, you
know, I gotta take my video equipment.

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I got to get this stuff down
because I mean, I was participated

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in a project one time where we
kind of got filmed on it and everything,

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but it wasn't I didn't feel like
they told the story the way it

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needed to be told. And that's
what I want to do. I want

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people to be able to tell their
story firsthand and do whatever we got to

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do to make it, you know, interesting for people to watch, and

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just to get it out there so
that other people who have had an experience,

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who in the past were afraid to
talk about it, are willing to

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come forward. And I've met as
a result of just doing this. I've

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met people, I've gotten emails from
people. There are people that you know

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who eventually I will go out and
I will meet with these people and do

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what I can to get their stuff
down as well. That incident, you

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know, I've always felt that that
incident, guys, was a warning.

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I think it was trying to tell
us to get out of it. It's

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territory. The trailer house had not
been there very long at all, from

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what I understood, it had just
been there for just a few days,

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the soil was still disturbed. We're
plumbing and whatnot had been put in.

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I always got the feeling that we
were being told to get out. You

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00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:04.359
know, if you want to go
I can't go into the psychology of a

411
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.839
sasquatch, but because I just don't
know, but I just I get the

412
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:14.599
feeling. Whatever was there that night, had it been a bear or what

413
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.799
not, any other large creature large
enough to do with that creature did it

414
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:26.119
could so easily have pushed a window
in. Yet, whatever this creature was,

415
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.119
not only did it come to our
front door so quietly that we didn't

416
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:36.880
even know it was there. When
it did make itself known, or at

417
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.839
least when it realized that we had
discovered it and blocked its view, and

418
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.480
he either got angry or decided to
make an example out of us. It

419
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.119
worked on us there, and then
it came to the other door. So

420
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.079
this thing had a recognition of what
doors were for that. You know,

421
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.119
there are little things like that to
stick in my head that I'm just like,

422
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.559
you know, that to just make
you wonder about the mentality that was

423
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.279
at work there that night. I
mean, obviously, if this creature had

424
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.680
really truly wanted to hurt two women
and three young boys. It could have

425
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.720
easily done so, but it obviously
didn't want to take it to that level.

426
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.160
It wanted us to know it was
there. I think it wanted us

427
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.720
to know it was angry, certainly, and then it pretty much demonstrated.

428
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:29.559
I think it demonstrated to us what
it could do by attacking the other structure

429
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.759
that was there that it knew was
uninhabited. It sounds like intimidation tags to

430
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.319
me. Yeah, I've always felt
that way. I feel like it was

431
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.880
there to let us know, Hey, this is my spot, I'm in

432
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.480
charge here. You're in my territory, and I want you out. And

433
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.920
you know, that strategy worked perfectly
because my grandfather got rid of the place.

434
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.920
From what I understand, the next
time we went to see him about

435
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.759
a month or two later. I
mean, he was in a completely different

436
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:02.440
spot. He was out in the
middle of a cowpass, so, yeah,

437
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.519
a whole different ill. He got
away from the mountains and kind of

438
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:10.240
got out in the in the meadows
a little bit better. Yeah, we've

439
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:15.799
got some questions from our chat room
from Bill Green. Hey Bill, you

440
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.799
know Bill, Yeah, Bill,
everybody knows Bill yeah, question for Todd,

441
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.680
Hey, Todd, I still enjoy
watching your documentary, still thinking about

442
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:29.880
doing other documentaries about Bigfoot. Absolutely, it is my It is my goal

443
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.359
as a matter of fact, to
do that. You know, the only

444
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.039
thing that's holding me back is funding. I had to promise that life.

445
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.599
I said, you know, this
is going to fund itself. I said,

446
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.240
you know, I have to make
I make back the money that it

447
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:47.359
costs me to make the documentary.
And then you know, if I have

448
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.880
a few hundred dollars left over,
then that one can go into the next

449
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.920
one. And as soon as we
do that, as soon as we pass

450
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.279
the break even point, I'm definitely
gonna jump right back out there and do

451
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.480
something else. And I mean,
I just though there's already people that I

452
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:06.240
have. I've got relatives in South
Louisiana who want to take me out and

453
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.640
show me a spot, and they
have a There's actually a guy down there

454
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.880
who's a disc jockey for a radio
station says he saw a sosquatch across the

455
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.920
road in front of him, and
there's a place down there where they've been

456
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:23.359
having some activity. I'd like to
go down and document. There's a lady

457
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:28.319
in East Texas that I plan on
talking to. There are several other people

458
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.240
as well that I just really want
to go sit down with and get their

459
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.519
story. And you know, it's
it's my dream to be able to put

460
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.599
all this stuff down and just get
it out to people. Eventually, I

461
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:44.359
would like to develop a website where
you can go and basically just get the

462
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:49.759
get peoples. And by the way, Faults he does have a temporary website.

463
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:53.960
It's www dot Bigfoot channel dot com. If you want to order the

464
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.079
DVD from there, you can.
He's got some reviews of the DVD,

465
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:05.359
so if you guys are interested,
that's big www dot Bigfoot channel dot com.

466
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.480
And we've got another question from the
chat room from monster Hunter. During

467
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:13.759
your making of the documentary, did
you ever come across anyone playing tricks?

468
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:19.039
Anyone playing tricks? Well, you
know what I really what I did was

469
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:23.799
I sought people out who you know
at the convention, who had had experiences.

470
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.359
I let them tell their story,
and then I went out with a

471
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.640
friend of mine who just a huge
guy. Just I mean, and if

472
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.799
you get the documentary, there's a
whole segment about the poor guy at the

473
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.640
end. He's a friend of mine. From just from junior high and just

474
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:44.079
all my life. I've known this
guy. He's this huge guy. He's

475
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:51.440
got shoulders like a he's just a
big guy. And he was perfect.

476
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.599
I knew from the beginning he would
be perfect to play Sofsquatch for me.

477
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.400
And he did it without hardly any
convincing it all. And he was really

478
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.799
excited about at first, but he
found out, you know that it wasn't

479
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.160
just the most fun in the world. And we even had an experience with

480
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:13.440
some police and everything else that was
kind of interesting. But uh, he

481
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.079
he was just he was just great
the whole time. And uh, we

482
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:20.599
just tried to you know, do
a little bit of a recreation whenever we

483
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.159
could and whatever we could do.
We shot a little film, shot a

484
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.360
lot of video, and we just
tried to make things as interesting as we

485
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:35.119
could. And that's just all from
from Telcom school, you know, we

486
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:39.440
just tried to break upreations were amazing, especially of the Scuok them cast and

487
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:45.880
that was really interesting how you had
him lying down and reaching over for the

488
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:51.880
fruit there. Yeah, we actually, you know, researched as much as

489
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.920
I could about the Scuok them cast, and I spoke you know with Rick

490
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.599
Noll at least you know, once
or twice about it, and uh,

491
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.559
basically just got all the information I
could and we just recreated, you know,

492
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.920
did the best job that we could
with what we had. And we

493
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.320
didn't have much because we had you
know, we had basically a budget to

494
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:16.400
you know, pay for happy meals
and and you know, oh yeah and

495
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:23.519
the kids, oh yeah, used
my kids the special features. So yeah,

496
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:29.199
old, there's something else. Well, what the person you don't see

497
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:35.639
is my oldest daughter. She's thirteen, and she she actually shot a lot

498
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.280
of that stuff. She shot some
of the film, some of the motion

499
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.079
picture film, and she shot some
of the video as well. Her name

500
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:47.039
is Morgan, and she did a
great job. I never really got her

501
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:52.079
on camera because she just wasn't there
for a lot of it, but when

502
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.440
she was there, she was just
the greatest help. My son shot a

503
00:35:54.440 --> 00:36:00.360
lot of video. He he basically
he documented a lot of the behind the

504
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.119
scenes footage. There was just so
much I couldn't put in there because I

505
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.920
just didn't have the time. But
he just did so much work and a

506
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.679
lot of the stuff I shot,
and of course he acted in the thing

507
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.559
as well, and did a great
job of that. My little girl,

508
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.719
my youngest, she's five, and
she was in it too. But the

509
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.559
family really helped out. My wife
has been so patient because my wife is

510
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:30.880
you know, she doesn't want to
have anything to do with bigfoot or anything

511
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.519
like that. She doesn't like to
even go outside a lot. She says,

512
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:37.280
she's a city girl, and she
refuses to go into the woods with

513
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.559
me and do anything like that.
But she had a lot of patience.

514
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.000
She understands how important this is to
me. And her biggest thing was,

515
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.559
you know, how much money is
just going to cost us to do this?

516
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.840
And I said, you know,
I said, I've already got,

517
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.800
you know, the biggest pluses.
I've already got the video equipment from when

518
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.880
we used to do wedding videos.
And I said, so I've got that

519
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.920
angle covered. I've got you know, pretty good, you know, pretty

520
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.400
good little equipment package here that I
can work with. It's old, but

521
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.960
it's still good, and you know, we do what we can with it.

522
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.480
You know. I wanted to experiment
with on the recreations. I wanted

523
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:17.639
to try to recreate the old look
of people's memories, and I thought film

524
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:22.599
would be the best way to do
that, and I really try to,

525
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:27.639
you know, kind of mimic without
without trying to exactly mimic, but kind

526
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.760
of halfway mimic the Patterson footage a
little bit, and actually learned quite a

527
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:37.440
few things that really that really told
me. It really convinced me that the

528
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:43.000
Patterson film is definitely the real deal, just from experiences I had making the

529
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:49.320
costume and doing everything I could to
make it realistic and realizing that looking back

530
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.960
at the Patterson footage, you know, there are just things about that footage

531
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.840
that I don't know if anyone else
has ever brought up, but as a

532
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.760
guy who's you know, made a
costume in his garage, you know,

533
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.400
trying to be what I as realistic
as possible. And what we didn't want

534
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.599
to do was use a gorilla costume, because it became evident to me very

535
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.320
quickly when I was getting ready to
shoot the recreations that there was no way

536
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:16.440
I was going to be able to
afford a Hollywood quality sosquatch costume because those

537
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.800
were, like, you know,
at least two thousand dollars and up.

538
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:24.320
There was no way I was going
to use a gorilla costume because most of

539
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.760
the guerrilla costumes are just really let's
just face the guys who are just ultra

540
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.079
cheesy. Yeah, and the people
that try to, you know, do

541
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:36.480
hoax videos with gorilla costumes. I
mean, it's just so obvious that that's

542
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.599
what they're wearing. You know,
You've got a baggy gorilla costume, and

543
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:43.679
I mean it's just obvious. So
what I wanted to do is I wanted

544
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.559
to say and so you know,
I got to find the right person.

545
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.400
And of course I knew who I
wanted to do it from the beginning,

546
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.280
and I talked him into it,
and it didn't require much talking into because

547
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.719
he's he's just the greatest guy.
He's willing to try things, and you

548
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.960
don't meet many people like him.
He's a true friend, I mean,

549
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:06.679
because he went through so much,
the fitting of the costume and everything.

550
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.679
Basically what we did was I wanted
to get something that was as tight as

551
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:16.880
possible so that it would adhere to
the actor's body and whatnot to try to

552
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:22.199
simulate you know, the Patterson footage
really as much as possible. And well,

553
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.239
yeah, it looked great, you
know, the costume looked great.

554
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:30.480
The phone number folks who three four
seven, nine, five eight and we

555
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:34.639
got a phone. We've got a
phone call. We got caller four O

556
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.840
four Area CO. You're on the
air with the Sasquatch Experience and filmmaker Todd

557
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:44.719
Partey on the air. Yes,
okay, yeah, I don't know,

558
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.320
a very interesting topic, actually have
a you know, I don't know if

559
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.719
the Sasquatch exparents or or what it
was. It was a long time ago

560
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.519
when I was in the Boy Scouts
and we were camping up at uh In

561
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:57.360
Chicken Market back of the battlefield,
and you know, we did, you

562
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.960
know, late night time came and
we did the snipe. You know,

563
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:01.360
you know a snipe. I know, as I tell you, go out

564
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.440
look for the snipe. It's not
really any such thing as a snipe,

565
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.400
you know, fund said by all. And you know, we're out there

566
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:12.400
and me and my friends Squiggly get
get separated and you know, from the

567
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.119
rest of the group, and we're
kind of lost it, kind of scared,

568
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:16.960
and then all of a sudden we
get accosted. We're still not sure,

569
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.800
I mean, we still talk about
to this day. We're not sure

570
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.440
exactly what it was. All I
thought was a big Harry Paul holding me

571
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:30.159
down as what what looked like a
sasquatch anally raping Squiggy and then it then

572
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.039
it held Squiggy down and alien raded
me. Thank you. How did it

573
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.159
feel to be anally raped by a
sasquatch? We'll find out next week.

574
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.760
I hope he used lube. I
take that. Take that was Lenny.

575
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.480
I hope it was Lenny. I
I don't know right in that right away,

576
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:53.880
Squiggy throw a red flag. You're
not sorry. It makes things a

577
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:58.440
little interesting, you know. I
a full moon tonight. I think this

578
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.480
morning and said waxing or whatever.
I don't even want to get into waxing

579
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:08.960
raped by estash, my lord?
Hey you what happily? Happily We've got

580
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.079
a couple of questions from the chat
room, stayed by the bill. The

581
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.519
Monster Hunter wanted to know if you're
going to do any conferences or anything to

582
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.159
promote the DVD. Well, you
know, I don't. I'll do anything

583
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.239
anybody offers me. I mean,
if if if they want me to come,

584
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:28.440
sure, man, I'm there.
I mean, I understand there's going

585
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.760
to be one in Oklahoma? Is
that right? And no, be Oklahoma

586
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.960
probably in October, and that'll be
Oklahoma. Yes, And October, Henry.

587
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.320
I believe our good friend, uh
Steve Coles, the Squatch Detective,

588
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.639
is going to be the master of
ceremonies for that festival. Yeah, well,

589
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.079
I think that'll be great, and
I'm going to try to attend.

590
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.559
Even if I'm not there to speak
or anything, I'm definitely going to try

591
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:53.519
to attend that it's at all possible. So yeah, I'll definitely, I'll

592
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:59.159
I think, you know, you're
gonna find me at Sasquatch conferences and Bigfoot

593
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:05.079
conferences just because I want to be
there. And yeah, definitely I'll be

594
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.519
promoting and I'm sure i'll have some
copies there to sell or whatnot. But

595
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.320
but I think the main reason that
I'll be there is because I'm going to

596
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.039
want to meet some people and get
their stories on tape, because you know,

597
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.559
this is not the end for me. This is you know, it

598
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:24.400
was during the making of this this
documentary about halfway through that I found out

599
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:30.719
I had cancer. Yeah, and
I don't want to get too much into

600
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.320
the details, but it kind of
knocked me out for a while there for

601
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.400
about five or six months, the
chemotherapy. But but I came back from

602
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:43.039
the cancer and you know, the
thing about once you get cancer, you're

603
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.440
you're never really it's not a cure, you're never really cured. You're just

604
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.760
kind of in remission. And I'm
in remission. And I got to be

605
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:51.880
honest with you. You know,
there were a lot of other things that

606
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.480
saved my life. A great wife, kids, people praying for me,

607
00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:00.360
and everything else. But the thing, one of the things that brought me

608
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:07.079
through was I knew I got to
finish that documentary. You know, whatever

609
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.039
else happens, I'm gonna finish that
thing and I'm gonna see it through the

610
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.599
completion. And so it's kind of
it's kind of funny to say, but

611
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:22.400
this documentary actually saved my life in
a little bit because it gave me the

612
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:28.000
determination, not not so much of
the support and love like my family got,

613
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.960
but it was a thing that I
knew. It was like a job

614
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:35.360
left undone that I had to finish
and I wasn't about to get It was

615
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:37.559
one of the things that let me
go, you know, you're not about

616
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.519
to give up. You're not You're
not going to give up, Todd,

617
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.159
because you love your wife, you
love your kids, and you're going to

618
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:49.480
be there for them and you're gonna
finish the Bigfoot documentary. It's gonna happen.

619
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.320
So that's one of the things that
you know, kind of got me

620
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.400
through all that. So we had, you know, we had a lot

621
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.679
of interesting adventures while we were making
the documentary. I can tell you some

622
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:04.519
pretty funny stories, but probably the
most hilarious one was that, Oh,

623
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.840
by the way, Monster Hunter,
he goes he actually goes by Indy.

624
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:14.519
He's an invite to Utah for a
squatch fest that will be Indy. Can

625
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.280
you tell me where that's going to
be at? We have Allio, We

626
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:23.400
have all the details of squatch Fest
of seven on the on the blog sasquatch

627
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:28.559
Experience that blogspot dot com for our
listening. Right as soon as we get

628
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.599
that information, we'll pass that along
to you as well. I appreciate it.

629
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.239
Ohio is a pretty good jount for
me. But you know, I'll

630
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.519
certainly try. I mean, we
have another question from Corey, but before

631
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:38.840
we get to that, I want
to make a point here. You were

632
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:45.840
mentioning about your homemade costume. Well, you know, also in reference to

633
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.039
the parison gimmeon movie, But well, Doug Hichick spoke at the will Creek

634
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.840
Symposium a few years ago, and
he made the point, you know that

635
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:00.320
the only the only, the only
way that that footage could actually be,

636
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.000
you know, so good to you
know, it's so so well hoaxed,

637
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.079
would be if you take somebody it
was about six foot seven, cover them

638
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:14.960
in glue, WI should probably kill
them. Anyway. They'd take over thirty

639
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:21.159
thousand hairs and glue them onto the
body, one at a tie. I

640
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:27.159
agree completely with that statement because just
from my experience personally doing what I could

641
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.000
with you know, what we did
was the way that I constructed the costume.

642
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:36.440
I wanted it to be skin tight
because I wanted to muscle groups to

643
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:38.639
kind of show up a little bit. What I didn't want, you know,

644
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:42.519
death for a bigfoot costume would have
been for it to be baggy.

645
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.159
And so what we did was we
went and got some black long John thermal

646
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:53.519
underwear that were about a size too
small for my actor, and I had

647
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.639
him put them on to make sure
they were skin tight on him as tight

648
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.280
as I could get them. And
then I went back and put the hair

649
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:06.599
on. And what I did was
we went bought hair extensions from Walmart and

650
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.480
I just wiped them out. I
mean, let me tell you something.

651
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:14.800
You get some strange looks when a
guy walks into Walmart and buys every hair

652
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:20.559
extension they got off the shelf in
the women's you know, HbA section there,

653
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.440
And I mean, you talk about
get some strange looks. I got

654
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:29.480
quite a few. But we got
some sprague blu and I glue that puppy

655
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:34.159
together. We used an old ski
mask for the hood and just did what

656
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.119
I just did what I could was
what I had, and what I discovered

657
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.960
was looking back at the Patterson Gimlin
film, It's got to be real,

658
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:47.400
guys. It just absolutely positively has
to be real. Because as tight as

659
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:52.159
tight as as I got that costume, and it's as much as I trimmed

660
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.119
the hair to try to simulate muscle
groups, it's just nowhere near what the

661
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.840
Patterson Gimlin footage was still to this
day. And I'll tell you one thing.

662
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.679
There's one thing that probably no other
human being is ever brought up,

663
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.039
and if they have, I'm sorry, But and this is kind of it's

664
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.280
actually kind of funny, and people
could make jokes about it. But the

665
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:21.039
thing that really causes me to believe
that the Patterson footage is real is that

666
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:28.960
the bigfoot has a butt crack,
right, there is definitely a separation between

667
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:34.599
the gluteus maximus muscles. And I
couldn't achieve that with my costume, just

668
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.559
for the simple matter of that,
and just about no matter how tight you

669
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:42.920
make something on somebody, you don't
really get a good delineation of the separation

670
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.960
between the glue between the butt cheeks. Let me, let's just say it,

671
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.119
you know, come out and say
it. You don't really get the

672
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.400
good delineation. And there are frames
of the Patterson footage where it is very

673
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:58.960
clear that the creature you're watching has
let's just say, a crack. And

674
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.960
yeah, and there's just I don't
know of any other way to duplicate that

675
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:07.280
unless you did exactly as you mentioned
earlier, took a human being and actually

676
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:12.079
glued hair onto their body. You
know, a very large human being,

677
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.239
not just tall, not just a
six foot seven individual, but a six

678
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:20.800
foot seven individual with a huge,
huge girth, just a huge It would

679
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:22.960
have to be a huge individual,
and you're gonna have to put all this

680
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:27.599
stuff on them. I just I
don't see how it could just be possible.

681
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.760
I mean, because there's the parts
that would have to be padded the

682
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.719
rear end and the breast and everything. If you if you made a costume

683
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:43.679
like that, it would be so
constrictive and restrictive in movement that then I

684
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.519
just don't think that it would work. Do you still have the costume or

685
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:50.280
was it destroyed when you were taking
it off? Game? Because it sounds

686
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.639
like it's as much as you put
through putting it together. Sounds like when

687
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.199
you peel it off, Hime,
it probably didn't come off in one good

688
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.880
piece. And it actually it came
off really well. I mean we got

689
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.760
an in and out of that costume
several times. It wasn't easy. The

690
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.639
glue tended to shrink when the costume
was off of him. I wasn't allowed

691
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:15.559
to bring the costume into the house
obviously because of the hair shedding. Oh

692
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.039
so I had to keep it in
the garage and it would get quite hot

693
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.599
in the garage, and the costume
would shrink every time we every time we

694
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.519
used it, and every time that
the costume hung and was empty for a

695
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:29.760
while, it would shrink. And
so every time we went out and put

696
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:34.159
it back on Tiger, who was
my actor friend, we had to stretch

697
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.760
it. I mean, it was
like it sounded like it was ripping.

698
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.119
I mean, that was the stretching
that had to go on. He had

699
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:45.199
to literally force himself into it every
time, and especially the hippiece, it

700
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.719
would get really small and we would
have to pull and tug. And there

701
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.920
are actually photos on the if you
go to bigfoot channel dot com, there's

702
00:49:53.960 --> 00:50:00.000
actually a photo gallery showing him in
a great deal of pain as I stretch

703
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.719
and pull the head piece over his
head trying to fit it to him.

704
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.880
That costume, interestingly enough, has
actually become more famous than anybody. It's

705
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:15.280
on loan right now. In New
York City. The Phoenix Theater Ensemble,

706
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:20.639
through Lauren Coleman, requested that somebody
loaned them a Sasquatch suit for a play

707
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:25.480
that they're putting on called On the
Verge. It's kind of off off Broadway

708
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:32.039
play and apparently a YETI makes an
appearance in that play, and they needed

709
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.920
a costume, and they had a
shoe string budget and they just needed they

710
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.480
needed a costume. So I told
Lauren, I said, sure, no

711
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.960
problem, I'll send it up to
them, because you know my plan is

712
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:49.920
to make another one anyway, So
send the costume up there. It's being

713
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:53.159
used. I think their play actually
starts on the twenty seventh, and it's

714
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.960
going to run for about six weeks. And then after that, guess who

715
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:04.119
wants to costume after that, Your
friend Lauren Coleman. He wants it for

716
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:08.079
his International Cryptozoology Museum in Maine,
in Portland, Maine. He's gonna put

717
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:12.239
it in the museum. So it
just really shocked me. I mean,

718
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.559
here's something I made in my garage
for fifty bucks, and it's it's going

719
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:22.480
to be on you know, in
New York and in a museum it may

720
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.159
I mean, you know, it's
really amazing. Just that's something I made

721
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.239
in my garage has made that kind
of a journey so well, at least

722
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.320
we'll have a good home after that, you know, on display Coleman's museum

723
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:39.800
for Oh yeah, I'm sure Lauren
a piece of Sasquatch history. Yeah,

724
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:44.239
I'm sure Lauren's going to take good
care of it. And you know,

725
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.320
I'm probably gonna end up sending him
a couple of more movie props that I

726
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:52.840
use. There's a there's a footprint
that I had to construct because there wasn't

727
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.400
during the opening sequence of the documentary. There's a point where the camera pans

728
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:01.119
down and you see a footprint in
the ground. Well, I wasn't able

729
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:07.800
to put a footprint in the ground
that was satisfactorily. I mean I tried.

730
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:12.239
I made a fake foot for the
shot, went out and pounded it,

731
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.880
jumped up and down on it,
you know, did everything I could,

732
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.159
and I couldn't make an imprint in
the soil. So I ended up

733
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:22.039
having to make a wooden cutout which
I had to bury in the ground with

734
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.679
a shovel to simulate a footprint.
I'm probably have sending that to Lauren as

735
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:30.159
well if he wants it. But
if you're out there, Lauren listening and

736
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.360
you want that, just you know, drop me a line and I'll send

737
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:37.599
a seat for the museum. But
uh, it's been a it's been an

738
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:43.960
interesting journey. The first night we
went out to shoot the recreations, we

739
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:46.800
were out shooting and we just goten
finished a sequence and Tiger had just taken

740
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:52.519
his his hood off to take a
break because he was getten kind of hot.

741
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.480
And about the time we were in
a park, in a public park

742
00:52:55.719 --> 00:53:00.159
down by the river here in Boser
City, Louisiana, and we hear a

743
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.960
car rolling up and about that time
we see the flashing lights come on and

744
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:10.000
this police officer gets out of his
car. In the world, are you

745
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:16.039
guys doing that? Here? We
have one works been todd from the chatter

746
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:24.000
Jim. Jim asks he'd like to
know what the other adults thought the experience.

747
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.320
What the other adults that you're talking
about my day you're encounter. I'm

748
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:35.519
sorry. Yeah, my parents,
well, you know, they've just kind

749
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:37.519
of they just kind of accepted it, you know, and just kind of

750
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:43.599
went on for being what it was. My father, you know. The

751
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:45.000
funny thing about that, You know, when you're five years old and your

752
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:50.280
parents are trying to keep all their
conjecture and everything away from you. But

753
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.119
my mother stated several times that when
she looked out, she saw a hairy

754
00:53:53.119 --> 00:54:00.079
face, she saw the eyes,
and she described it as looked like,

755
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.679
you know, a big harry hippie. They would have been. You have

756
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.079
to understand, my mother is an
Arkansas hillwoman, and when she says she

757
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:14.400
saw a big hairy hippie, yeah, that's that would probably be the way

758
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.639
she would describe what she saw.
So Henry, that would have been the

759
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:24.400
perfect time. Then the show is
California dreaming. Well, anyway, we're

760
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:28.559
gonna go ahead and wrap things up
here. We want to thank you very

761
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.800
much for coming on the show,
and the documentary is great. I just

762
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.840
watched it the other day again and
Henry's wore out of his copy. Is

763
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:42.679
what he's trying to tell you.
I enjoy the appreciate you sending that to

764
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.760
us, and appreciate you being on
the show. Thanks. Folks listening out

765
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:50.679
there, please get this DVD.
It's important that you watch it. And

766
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.199
one thing we didn't touch on as
much as I would have liked to,

767
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:58.960
because there's so much talk about with
it are the interviews with Rick Noll and

768
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.159
Bob Shane, which is really funny
because I knew Bob Strane was in the

769
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:06.239
field, but I never knew why. I never knew up to this point

770
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.360
that Bob Strane had an encounter.
Would you know you learned something new every

771
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:13.280
day? Yeah, Bob's a hidden
treasure, he really is. Oh yeah.

772
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.960
And speaking of Bob, Bob and
Kathy are co producing with myself the

773
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:22.679
new show and the former Sassage Experience. A light time slot the new Wednesday

774
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:29.320
night show Let's Talk Bigfoot, hosted
by Melissa Hovey and Teresa Hall starts this

775
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:34.960
Wednesday night at ten pm, right
Henry in Eastern nine Central, and then

776
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.639
be sure and tune into that because
their first guess will be none other than

777
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:46.119
the controversial MK Davis. Oh boy, and they'll be debating his recent findings

778
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:51.480
on the Paterson Gimblin film, which
how old is it this year, Henry?

779
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.840
Forty years this year forty years old? Amazing and no one can still

780
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.840
prove without a shadow of doubt that
it's a hoax. And I think that's

781
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:06.000
extremely That says a lot for the
tenacity of the film. I've always been

782
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.679
offensitter on it because and you know, up to this point, I don't

783
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:12.880
know why for me, the clarity's
not there. But listening to m K

784
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.440
Davis, MK really brought, you
know, brought me around to us seeing

785
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:21.039
the things he was pulling out of
the film. And once you truly sit

786
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.960
down with MK and let MK talk
before we start throwing judgment at him,

787
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:31.159
the man makes sense. I don't
agree with his recent findings that it's you

788
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:35.559
know, a native person, but
you know that's MK's you know, that's

789
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.360
MK's opinion. He's entitled to that. But I won't take away from him

790
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:44.800
the fact that he's done incredible work
on the film, right, Yeah,

791
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:47.719
that speaks volumes. So again,
Tom, I want to thank you very

792
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.440
much, and we love the documentary
and we're hoping to see more. Well.

793
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.599
Thanks, guys, had a great
time, and that that is my

794
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:58.920
plan to continue doing what I'm doing. Well, as long as you do

795
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:00.440
it, you always have a spot
here in the show. So thank you,

796
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.400
kin, I'll keep doing it as
long as I'm above ground. There

797
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.880
you go, all right, all
right, take it easy, Todd Tanks

798
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.000
for joining us heatary. Who do
we have on next week? We're hoping

799
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:16.519
to get on them Williams on next
week. She is the founder of Oregon

800
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:22.760
bigfoot dot com, which has just
recently undergone a renovation. Looks great.

801
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:25.800
I can't wait. I hope we
do get on the winners because I'd love

802
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:30.599
to talk to her. Yeah,
because because we're on the kick with documentaries.

803
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:36.239
I really loved organ Bigfoot volume one
and really and I'm anticipating volume two,

804
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.440
which I really hope comes out soon. I really enjoyed it, thoroughly

805
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:44.679
enjoyed the documentary. You know,
just and a lot of people don't know

806
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:47.000
that I've been dab, you know, dabbling the idea of doing a documentary

807
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:52.840
myself. I just don't have the
time. And for those of you out

808
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:58.119
there, Missus Forker is very tight
with the dollar. She don't like to

809
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.920
part very much with it. She
controls my big footing budget. Need I

810
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:08.400
say more? And so maybe one
day there'll be a Pennsylvania Bigfoot documentary if

811
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:13.639
I get together with someone like Cohorts
up here in PA. You know,

812
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:20.639
just bigfoots all over all over the
United States. Every state has their own

813
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.679
Bigfoot stories, their own sightings,
and there's so many of them out there.

814
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:29.000
I encourage you, the listeners to
actively seek them out and read up

815
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.199
on them as much as possible.
I think, you know, if you're

816
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:37.239
truly going to be an asset to
the field, that you need to read

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00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.760
read read before you start opening up
the apple and start talking about how you

818
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:53.480
saw squog and get raped sasquatch.
I won't get off that run. I

819
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:58.880
don't like callers that you know,
use our show as a form for their

820
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.639
antics. Well, yeah, there
we have going on about this because we're

821
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still being archive. Even though the
Live Feet is over, we still have

822
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:10.719
thirty minutes of tape left to go
before they kill me. But so much

823
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:14.360
to talk about with Bigfoot, and
it's so hard to cram it into an

824
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:19.159
hour, you know, and week
after weeks, just great to have a

825
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.719
new, something new to talk about. Henry and Todd, your sighting was

826
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:30.480
your encounter rather sighting, even in
parison Gimmon movie. Although I know we

827
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.920
don't really like to talk about it
very much because it's been beaten like you

828
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.320
know, it's been beaten up so
many times. There's just nothing fresh to

829
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talk about with it. And others
would argue with me about that, But

830
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.760
Henry, I've been in this field
for ten years. You've been doing this

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for quite a long time. You
know. After a while, you just

832
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.480
get really tired to talk about the
Patterson film. It's there's so much more

833
00:59:53.519 --> 01:00:00.039
out there to talk about. And
you know, guys like Todd and MK

834
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:04.760
Davis and Ricknall guys like that to
go out there. And I do say

835
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.440
MK Davis because MK Davis does do
active researching. He's been out to California,

836
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:13.679
he's been out the Bluff Creek.
But you got to get out there

837
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:17.119
to find the evidence and to talk
about that and to talk about and discuss

838
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:22.360
the evidence. We're not going to
get anywhere talking about a forty year old

839
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.760
film anymore. We just have to
start fresh. And as I said before,

840
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:30.480
my advice to the new researchers getting
into the field is read and find

841
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:35.199
yourself a mentor. That's really important. Eric Altman in Pennsylvania has truly been

842
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:39.119
a great asset to me in terms
of going over evidence with me, going

843
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:44.719
on excutition with me, and just
keeping my head level. And that's important

844
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:50.320
because once you start becoming an enthusiast
to Bigfoot, sometimes you start losing your

845
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:54.119
judgment meter and it's important to keep
that calibrated at all times. You can

846
01:00:54.280 --> 01:01:00.719
often die into your own bowl than
you canbine to someone Else's my only advice.

847
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:02.719
Henry has been a wonderful show tonight. Always to be doing these shows

848
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:07.320
with the six month anniversary. I
expected flowers and candy, but at least

849
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:12.360
they got a phone call. And
we've only lost two shows. Nels was

850
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.440
our first two shows. Yeah,
Henry's been crying for months that we've lost

851
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.880
and we've lost two shows. And
actually we lost two shows because they were

852
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:24.039
our fault, right, and we
thought we lost a third. Fortunately for

853
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:28.639
us blog Talk Radio was able to
find it. We had to thank George

854
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:31.480
Hackworth from blog talk Radio, our
host Liaison, who was able to get

855
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:36.880
on that fast and find it,
find that show and get it reposted to

856
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:38.800
our archives. I know a lot
of people. We got a lot of

857
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:43.920
feedback on they were upset that we
lost Don Keating's show. We don't lose

858
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:46.679
it. You know, we did
this show for the fans. Fans listen

859
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:51.280
to us, to fans, for
the enthusiasts, and anybody out there who

860
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.000
would like to be a guest in
our show, and you know you're an

861
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.239
active researcher, you know, just
give us a call during the show one

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01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:04.079
three four seven nine or or email
us. It's a Sasquatch Experience at blogspot

863
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:08.159
at gmail dot com or go to
our blog Sasquatch Experience dot blogspot dot com

864
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.239
com. We're easy to get a
hold of, and we will just love

865
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.119
doing the show. Yep, We're
gonna keep on. Henry gets eaten by

866
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:22.199
Sasquatch and next week we got Autumn
Williams hopefully, and folks, we're gonna

867
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.599
go ahead and wrap things up and
until next week is on behalf of Sean

868
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:29.159
Porker and James Baker. You all
be good or be good at it,

869
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.079
bond squatching folks. This has been
the Sasquatch experience.