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Today. 17 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:10.599 Hey everybody, this is Left Striving Yes, yes, I know aka 18 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:36.680 Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Odyssey. Hey there, 19 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.519 welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank you so much for being with us for 20 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.760 the show. It is Friday. I hope you guys have got a great 21 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.959 week. We have an amazing guest line there for you. But as always, 22 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.000 I want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and 23 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.480 you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email you give me 24 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.120 a Brian at Paranamoworldproductions dot com. You can head over to the website check 25 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:59.120 it out, become a member there and help support the show. If you 26 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:05.680 listened yesterday today I put out Mike's original episode which was back gosh March of 27 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:09.719 twenty twenty one. He was episode nine of Sasquatch Odyssey, and I got 28 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:15.120 to sit down with Mike again recently and talk about some of the amazing encounters 29 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.919 and experiences and some of the evidence that he's capturing up in Kentucky in the 30 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.000 Land between the Lakes. I'll let Mike get into all of that in just 31 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.520 a second. We do refer to some videos and some photographs. Mike has 32 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:28.039 sent those over to me, so make sure you head over to the blog 33 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.199 Hearnermorldproductions dot com check out the Sasquatch Otdasey blog at the top of the page. 34 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:35.800 You could see those videos and you can see those photographs that we reference 35 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:38.039 in this episode. I haven't mentioned this in a while, but if you 36 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.759 don't already, follow us on Instagram at Sasquatch Odyssey, and we'd love to 37 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.360 have you join us on the Sasquatch Odyssey Fans group on Facebook. You can 38 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:50.159 find those links right here in the show notes for this episode. But enough 39 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.000 of that. I know you guys are ready to get into it. Mike's 40 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.879 on the line, He's ready to go. Just sit back, relax, 41 00:02:54.039 --> 00:03:16.599 and enjoy the show. I want to welcome my guests back to the show. 42 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.680 It is Mike from Kentucky. Welcome to the show. Man, Hey 43 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.520 man, great to be back. I know we were just reminiscent. It's 44 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.240 been a while. I couldn't believe that it had been March of twenty twenty 45 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:31.439 one. You were Episode nine of Sasquatch Odysses. I appreciate you coming back 46 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:36.000 and sharing your new experiences. We don't have to get into what got you 47 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.520 into Bigfoot. If anybody wants to know about that, they can go back 48 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.599 and listen to episode nine. Let's just get right to the meat and potatoes 49 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:45.240 and talk about your recent experiences with these things. Yeah, so, I'm 50 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.120 not gonna not be in the woods. That's been a part of my life, 51 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:51.000 my whole life. So we kept at it. Now my family, 52 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:53.639 my wife, my two young daughters, they're out there. So after that 53 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.960 first experience, you look at the woods a little different, and we had 54 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.280 some neat experiences, a couple of noteworthy. You get a lot of it's 55 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.080 funny, You get a lot of circumstantial stuff. And if people were watching 56 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:09.639 a true crime show, they'd be, oh, this you convict the guy 57 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.759 and then switch sides after the advertisements, but they want something more concrete. 58 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.360 With big Fluss, it's all about those sightings. My WHI think she wants 59 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.160 to see one. I don't know. I'm on the fence. But we 60 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:23.480 continued to go out and boat and hike, and I don't know. It 61 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:27.199 was about a year after the first experience. We hype what's called the North 62 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:30.680 South Trail runs the whole length of it's over in land between the lakes down 63 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.199 here in Kentucky. We hike different sections of it, and now we try 64 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:38.279 to stay on the track as much as possible, but there's some sections where 65 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.199 there's a road that you can access, so you can jump on the trail 66 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.879 two miles if you want, ten miles if you want short track off the 67 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.480 track and your back on that road to your car. So we're going and 68 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.920 I carry about a thirty forty pound pack, and I had my little daughter, 69 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:58.279 I guess she was probably two at the time, my youngest, and 70 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.040 so I put her on my shoulders and I pack her on up the hill. 71 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.360 There's some pretty big hills. People in the mountain country will not think 72 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.560 these are they'll call them hills here, we call them mountain But it's pretty 73 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:10.439 high and I'm fifty one. So we got her up to the top of 74 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:14.800 this hill and she started screaming because she knew I was gonna put her now. 75 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:17.279 She didn't want to walk, she was tired, and the screaming went 76 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.240 on for a minute. Finally Mom got her off. J our left. 77 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.879 We're right at the top of a ridge, and it's not a real wide 78 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:28.839 section, so there's drop offs on each side. We hear at this junt, 79 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.959 this thaw, and you feel it, and you hear the bipedal steps, 80 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:36.040 and I look at my wife and she said I heard it. And 81 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:39.720 then I'm like, I thought you wanted to see it, so I actually 82 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.079 we went out. There was going away from us, so we went up 83 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.000 the ridge. I said, it's got to be right down here. And 84 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.519 it's one of those things we've talked about before, and I'm sure everybody that's 85 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.720 into this has come across. It was gowe and there was a good one 86 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:57.879 hundred yards circumference where it wasn't thick woods, any natural thing you would have 87 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.680 seen, so that actually she never experience that, and that guy her kind 88 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.399 of okay, let's get on this ridge and let's get on out of here. 89 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.720 We did. She carried my daughter so she'd be quiet. We don't 90 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:11.079 know what the scream did, if it attracted them or scared them or what. 91 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.680 But we got out on the road and we are sitting on a barn 92 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.439 taking a break, and she's curious. So I'm holding the girls and sitting 93 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.199 there and she goes down the road a little bit, still in sight, 94 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.199 and I just look and I don't know if I was creeped out or not, 95 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:30.360 but about sixty to seventy yards away, it's standing there, right behind 96 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.120 a tree, just standing there. And what worried me a little more. 97 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:39.439 I haven't really been scared, but I'm convinced there's always two of them, 98 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:44.199 and so what's worrying me is if this thing's down here with us. And 99 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:46.439 this wasn't a ridge tile, it was down there with us, straight line 100 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:53.000 sixty yards away. I'm wondering what's behind me on this ridge behind but I 101 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.480 know my wife wants to see it, so I'm trying to get her attention 102 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:00.720 and not spook it. And then all of a sudden, we here coming 103 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.680 down the road some type of RTV ATV. We hadn't seen anybody all day, 104 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:10.199 and I look up and it's gone. We actually went over there and 105 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:14.199 there was some prints there, so man, it was one of those things. 106 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:17.360 I don't know. There's a couple of times I've been been scared or 107 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.959 at least wanted to get out of the wanted to get out of the woods. 108 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:24.680 Now I haven't been attacked or anything like that. It's just that feeling 109 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.040 and you know, you get I'm sure you've been there, but that was 110 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.560 about my best. Like I stared at it, I looked at it. 111 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:32.560 This one I made eye contact click, and I couldn't read it. I 112 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:36.279 couldn't read it. I didn't know if it was curious or if there was 113 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:40.199 something else. Well, let's talk a little bit about you got a good 114 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.319 look at it. You're sixty seventy yards away. Can you talk about in 115 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:47.519 detail what you saw as far as heightweight, hair, eyes, face, 116 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.879 that kind of thing. I have been out and we've got some prints. 117 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:56.600 There's about three sets of prints that were getting a sixteen inch or a fifteen 118 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.720 inch or and a thirteen inch, and this one was one of those, 119 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:05.879 I'm sure. So I'm thinking comparing it to like Shaquille O'Neil, if he's 120 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:11.600 three hundred pounds and this thing is way wider, so you're looking at five 121 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:16.600 hundred pounds. The thing's eight feet tall and in five hundred at least, 122 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.639 and short hair, so not shaggy. These I'm seeing are not shaggy. 123 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:26.839 They're more uniform brown. When they're down in there, the hair reacts to 124 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.199 the light and that this one was down in there so brown. It was 125 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:35.360 pretty impressive. And it was just standing there and there was one small cree 126 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.039 kind of obscuring. I guess it would have been its right side, but 127 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:45.759 it was its legs, powerful big legs. There was some scrub in there, 128 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.080 so you couldn't see all of it all the way down to the feet, 129 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:54.919 but just to think a little bigger than Shaquille O'Neill, just standing there. 130 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.159 Deep eyes, man. The thing with these things for me is the 131 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:03.440 eyes are really deep. I've seen some pictures and some people they make them 132 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:07.039 up with real human bluish eyes and things like that. What I see is 133 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:13.240 it's dark. It wasn't mean it. I would say it was a serious 134 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.399 look. It was just serious, just standing there. What are you doing 135 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.480 here? When are you leaving? That's the feel I really got, you 136 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.159 know. Yeah. It was one of the things that I was gonna mention, 137 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.039 because I've asked people that before that have a fairly close up encounter with 138 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.000 these things, is could you get a sense And obviously it's subjective because you're 139 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.039 projecting your feelings onto this thing. That was one of the things I wanted 140 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.799 to ask you, was could you get a feeling A for what do you 141 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:39.559 think this thing was doing out in the open to allow you to see it? 142 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.240 And b could you get a feeling of whether this thing was pissed off 143 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.399 or surprised. So it sounds like to me you think maybe it was not 144 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.080 happy that you were there staring at it. Right. Yeah, And I've 145 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.679 got a good friend, thankfully after my first experience, Charlie Raymond, Kentucky, 146 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.120 Bigfood Research Organization. Man, you can go there catalog your your sightings 147 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.360 in this stage. He's so good. So he took a lot of the 148 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.879 sheer away, and I've been out with him a bunch and he says that 149 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.799 they're curious about people. I do believe that. I believe if you're in 150 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.240 the land between the Lakes, I'll tell you right now, you're being watched 151 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.360 ninety percent of the places you're at, especially if you're off pay roads, 152 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:22.360 you're me and walked. And so I believe that. I think this was 153 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.200 closer to dusk, and I think they're nocturnal. I think they hunt at 154 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.440 night, and I think you get in a situation where maybe we might have 155 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:33.320 been messing up. It's hunting a little bit, or maybe in an area 156 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.000 where it was going to do something. So I really think it just wanted 157 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.559 us out of there, because if they want to watch you, and I've 158 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.159 had a couple of sightings where they look up over a ridge and then they 159 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.039 just walk away. That was the thing. They don't follow even and usually 160 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:50.759 they'll stay up on the ridge. It's been my experience. This was down 161 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.679 in there with so I think he just wanted us to know that he saw 162 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.120 us and he was glad we were out again. Maybe my daughter trying really 163 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:03.039 upset him. I don't know it was what upset so your wife was there 164 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:05.559 for this, she didn't get to see it. But how did that affect 165 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.000 her moving forward? Did that peak her interest more, did it make her 166 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.120 want to get more involved and pushed to see one of these things, or 167 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:16.200 did she feel more like backing off after that? She is so torn, 168 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:18.799 she's even torn now like this time of year, the lake is that we 169 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.799 have two big lakes and it's really low, so I like to walk on 170 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:24.320 the bank. Even though I got a nice boat, it's just easier to 171 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.919 walk on the bank and fidg and I tell her, I think I'm gonna 172 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.919 cut up across this ridge and get back to the truck. And she doesn't 173 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.759 loant be doing that by myself, even in the daytimes. But she has 174 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:39.840 seen the prints. Like I said, the circumstantial stuff. When you get 175 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.559 out there and you start seeing these markers and these lips, these twists of 176 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.440 trees and these breaks, and something's doing and it does. It makes you 177 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.360 curious. It's a once in a lifetime thing. At that time, she 178 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.600 looked at me. I didn't tell her. She looked at me and now 179 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.159 you see one, you're looking at one. And then we heard that sound, 180 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.200 so she was paying I wanted to see it, but let's go home. 181 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:03.360 But you be ready to go home. I can't say that I blame 182 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:07.000 her. Let's talk a little bit about before we move into your other experiences. 183 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.639 Let's talk a little bit about the footprints that you're finding, because that's 184 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.759 something that I ran into when I was up with Todd and Radium was footprints 185 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.559 everywhere in the spangled moss that's up there in that area. Yeah, let's 186 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.559 talk a little bit about the footprints that you're finding. Are you able obviously 187 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:22.480 you're taking pictures, I would assume, are you able to cast any of 188 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.720 these? And what are they looking like are they more humanoid? Describe what 189 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.919 you're finding as far as the footprints. I'm actually finding a couple different types. 190 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.960 And I think I sent you one on the first broadcast. You had 191 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.000 seen some pictures. Send you some pictures and the cast didn't turn out real 192 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.360 well. And I've learned actually was listening to your episode. I think it 193 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:46.679 was clipping Bobo talking about that most casts don't. But you don't get this 194 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.799 studio quality, movie quality cast. And I'll be honest with you, I 195 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:56.759 find so many footprints. I'm waiting for that one in really nice mud with 196 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:58.360 clear toes, and I'm gonna cast it and put it on my wall. 197 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.879 That's what I'm waiting for. But you find them. I haven't found multiple 198 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.080 toes. What I find a lot is you find a lot of single prints 199 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:11.360 for whatever reason. Sometimes it's in a track trap. You get a lot 200 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.600 of these these seep inches. A lot of people don't realize this, like 201 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.840 why is there one footprint? There's seep inches. Sometimes there are a hundred 202 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.399 of the leaves. You take one step and you're gonna slip fall that you 203 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.960 take step to the left or right, you're not going So there's a lot 204 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.480 of those. I have found as many as eight in a row. They 205 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.039 are about forty eight inches apart. And I've got great video I zdeo and 206 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:37.759 document all these things. The ones I find roughly sixteen inches long eight inches 207 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.320 wide. I get a lot of big toes. It's almost like you get 208 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.720 a lot of you can see where the big toe grips, but the other 209 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.080 toes don't quite dig in, and I don't know if they're grabbing with them 210 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:50.639 or what, but I've got a ton of them where you can see he'll 211 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:56.679 print midcharsel, break good with up by the toes big toe, and then 212 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.960 the rest are just there. I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's something 213 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.600 that I have fought with because I found printing here on the property. I've 214 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.120 actually went back and done follow up videos because of all the hatred that comes 215 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.360 when you post it on Facebook. The comments. I think the last post 216 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:16.519 I did, it's got something like thirty thousand views on Facebook, and the 217 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.320 comments are it's every other one right, it's oh my god, that's awesome, 218 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.279 and then the very next one is, oh, it must have been 219 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.960 on a pogo stick. It's just that one footed bigfoot. So I literally 220 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:31.480 went back in the woods and documented a couple of videos of me walking my 221 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.240 dogs. And I've said it so many times on the show. All of 222 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.679 my dogs have four legs, they all have four feet. But I'll find 223 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.960 places where there's muddy areas there's one dog footprint in the middle and there's no 224 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.399 more around. How does that happen? And it's exactly like you said, 225 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:50.360 there's areas four inches to the left or right. The substrate is hard, 226 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.840 that area is just a little bit lower with the seepage. After a rain, 227 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.159 it's moist. You catch a footprint there. That happens all the time. 228 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:03.639 And again it is questionable to me, because I questioned myself when I 229 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.679 find one footprint, I'm like, nobody's hey, nobody's gonna believe this. 230 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.000 I'm photographing and taking a video of a footprint that I'm about to cast, 231 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:13.919 and there's only one. It's the same, no matter what. Because I 232 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:18.360 found on my neighbor's property here up the road about a half a mile three 233 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.480 quarters of a mile away, I found two in a row. So that's 234 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.639 like a huge fine. And the last ones that I've casted, I think 235 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.200 one other person, maybe two other people have seen the photos because they turned 236 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.440 out too good. It was two right in a row, about forty eight 237 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.279 fifty inches apart. They're about fourteen and a half fifteen inches long, and 238 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.919 the cast turned out beautifully. I won't show them to anybody because the very 239 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:46.440 next thing that everybody's going to say is that's fake because they turned out too 240 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.200 good. So it is what it is. But I'm glad you mentioned that. 241 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:52.639 For everybody out there who didn't hear Cliff and Bobo and I talking about 242 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.480 that cast. Everything you come across, if they turn out to look like 243 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.399 crap, it doesn't matter. Keep them in anyway, because it's datner and 244 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.879 you will hopefully eventually get that one that turns out to be beautiful and hangs 245 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.480 on your wall for the rest of your life or whatever. Yet's talk about 246 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:10.840 your other experiences, man, I know that's not the only thing that you've 247 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:14.600 had happened. So let's go back into the woods and talk about the next 248 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:17.480 thing that happened to you. Now, I think the coolest thing I'm telling 249 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.840 you, if I had a video quarter or an audio requorter running, this 250 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:23.159 would be all over the place, and really we weren't doing anything. Bigfoot 251 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.679 related. I really love to fish in the spring. So my girls and 252 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.159 I were all out in the boat. That was just his past spring. 253 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.399 I go real shallow way in the back of the coals where a lot of 254 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:38.600 people don't fish. Because we're back there, there's a lot of boat traffic 255 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.919 coming in and a lot of people having fun. Water skin jep skin. 256 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.919 My daughter just this day, my middle daughter, and she's eight now, 257 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.440 I guess she was seven at the time. She's curious about and it goes 258 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:53.039 and the way the sound travels on on water all day. She thought you'd 259 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:56.120 hear one coming from this way and be coming from that way. If you've 260 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.120 been out on the water, you know what I'm talking. She'd think people 261 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:02.559 were real close and they're really far. It was beautiful, it was dusk. 262 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.519 We caught a lot of station. We were in a little bay and 263 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.640 it had some ridges. I said, watch this, let me show you 264 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:12.160 an eck, and so I just went really long, really loud, and 265 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:18.680 it started echo and right behind us in this little cree we hear whoop and 266 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.000 the peace sound. Coyotes aren't pers in their lips and making a peace. 267 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:29.279 Then everything lit up and the coyotes started going and then up on this rig. 268 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.119 All of a sudden, we hear this, and the crickets stopped. 269 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:37.599 I mean, everything in the woods got silent. The girls didn't tick up 270 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:41.160 on My wife again when we hear the whoop, she picked up on that. 271 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.880 The little girls there, She's like, oh, this is cool, 272 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.279 and they loved that the coyotes were going. But when even when they heard 273 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:51.680 that, they were just like, dad, we got silent. It's just 274 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.880 who And that's actually I went in there later on, Oh why, But 275 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.400 I just was curious because I've never really been that. And I got a 276 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:07.759 nineteen inch footprint out of one footprint on a mole hill like it had purposely 277 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.519 pushed down, which is actually you would say, prime for somebody to mess 278 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:17.279 with you. But it is so thick back in there, and so I 279 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.519 haven't been back. We've left that area off or a hike because this was 280 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.720 intimidating. It was really I cannot describe. I can't imagine, man. 281 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.960 And that's the other thing that people say about footprints is in order for there 282 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.480 to be a hoax, there has to be a payoff. So if you're 283 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:36.960 gonna do something like that with a footprint or tree breaks, or whatever the 284 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:40.599 case may be. There has to be people there to see it, and 285 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.720 the chances of somebody hearing what you heard. So let's say it was a 286 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.319 person making that noise and trying to drag you or whoever was down their end, 287 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.279 so you'd have to hear the noise be into Bigfoot enough to know that's 288 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.400 possibly a sasquatch. I'm going to go in here and see if I can 289 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.480 find a track at a different time, and then them leave a track behind. 290 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.440 So it's really the totality of the circumstances for me. Obviously it's still 291 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:08.519 a little subjective. It is an anecdotal experience, but it's layer upon layer 292 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:12.440 of the things that you're finding that really builds the total case. For me, 293 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.480 is that the same thing you're finding as far as what you're doing as 294 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:19.000 far as finding evidence. Even when we hear that whoop, I'm telling the 295 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.559 girls this is after it. It all happened consecutively. But we're in the 296 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.680 car and I'm saying, now, there could have been a hiker back that 297 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.559 was just messing with up. This stuff's popular now, everybody's seen the shows, 298 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.440 so I'm thinking, but there was not a guy with a studio quality 299 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:40.839 PA set up waiting on that ridge to then fire that sound. That's highly 300 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:44.839 unlikely. I tell them you, Look, I don't believe in multiple coincids. 301 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.960 That's my thing. I do believe in one coincidence. One happens best. 302 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:51.599 But like you just said, when you start stacking them on top of 303 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:56.200 each other. So that's exactly what I'm finding I try to look for. 304 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:00.839 I'll tell you a great example of that. When you go out this time 305 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.680 of year on these lakes. The water has gone out of the back of 306 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.039 these bays and it's really soft mud, and you get duck hunters, you 307 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:11.119 get hikers, you get people. There's people here. They look for turtle 308 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.440 shells, old lures where people were fishing and now they got hung up. 309 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.599 Just a ton of people out and you'll see some footprint, even some bare 310 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.799 foot wornt sometow. Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be 311 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:29.880 right back after these messages. And it'll make you think. But you've got 312 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.640 to say, okay, look here's where the boat came up. Here were 313 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.680 some shoe prints where they were probably taking off. You just always have to 314 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.880 try to disprove before you prove it. It's hard to do because you get 315 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.079 excited and you know, like you want everything to be bigfoot. But no, 316 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.400 the stuff I talk about, it's like with the pictures too, with 317 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:55.000 the Paradovia, I don't post much. I've got one picture that I posted 318 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.720 and I saw this thing running across a ridge and I just stopped my truck 319 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.720 and I'm just still my phone still and I'm just hitting the button as quick 320 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.279 as i can. When I got back, I noticed and I had to 321 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.880 really zoom in. There's a brown figure that is there's a tree, and 322 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.279 you can see that it's angled away, and the next picture you can see 323 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.720 it's moved close. The next weekend, I climbed up that ridge. I 324 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:22.519 got my wife in the truck. I put myself in there to make sure 325 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:27.200 it wasn't the stump, wasn't the lag, wasn't any type of misidentification to 326 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:32.759 show that there was room for a man sized thing to be. I put 327 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.440 it in my private research group, and I'm not going to put anything up 328 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:37.440 there unless it's a slammed up because I'll be it in your shoes. I'll 329 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:42.240 get thirty thousand critics. Yeah, that's what happens. Man. I'm going 330 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:47.839 through it now with the Todd standing stuff after that edition. I just worked 331 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:49.519 on today before we hopped on for a couple of hours, trying to put 332 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:55.200 together a bunch of audio because this particular night of the audio that's coming up 333 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:59.000 for later in the week on the show is us sitting around and we're having 334 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:03.119 something thrown at the camper. Sounded like rocks. It's you know, Todd 335 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:06.440 was convinced it was some sort of a small pine cone. I still think 336 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:07.880 it's rocks, because we didn't find any pine cones the next day. But 337 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.400 I'm going through this audio and a lot of the stuff that we heard in 338 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:15.680 real time is captured, so you can hear it on the audio. We're 339 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:19.400 responding to it, going what was that? I heard that? But there 340 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.640 was a lot of them that we missed. We're talking around the fire, 341 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:26.960 and I went back through the audio and I found probably seven or eight examples 342 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:30.920 today of I can hear it hitting the camper and we're talking in a sort 343 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.599 of oblivious to it. And again people are going to say, you didn't 344 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.119 see what it was. Sure, I understand that, but I don't know 345 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.680 what else in the woods throws rocks. It just blew my mind when we 346 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.079 started having those experiences in real time, and then I'm reliving it today going 347 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:48.240 back through the audio, and I'm thinking there had to be something probably thirty 348 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.960 forty, maybe at the most fifty feet away from us in the woodline, 349 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:57.359 throwing rocks, hitting the camper that was fifteen twenty feet behind us. That's 350 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:02.640 a weird thing to experience. Man, didn't see what it was, don't 351 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:06.319 know what it was. And again, until people put themselves in that position, 352 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:07.799 see other thing that I get all the time. I tell people, 353 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:11.359 get up off your couch and go out and experience things in the woods. 354 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.680 If you don't believe what I experienced may be related to bigfoot. Sure I 355 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:19.599 never see any things definitively to Bigfoot because I'm not seeing one, right, 356 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:25.839 don't Monday morning quarterback my experiences when I go spend seven days out in the 357 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:29.839 bush. If you're not doing that yourself, you got nothing to talk about 358 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.200 exactly. Let's go back into your experiences. Man, what else have you 359 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:36.200 ran into while you've been out looking for these things? It's neat you talk 360 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.559 about stuff being thrown. So I met my friend Ray, and I went 361 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:44.839 out on a Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization expedition, and the first time we'd met, 362 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:47.480 I say, big guy. I always call him six four, and 363 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:49.599 I think he corrects me with the extra two edges. The guys six six, 364 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:52.519 I'm only five eight. So I worked quite the pair of if we 365 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.119 met and had some stuff thrown at us, and what was neat about it? 366 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.960 It was eight horn coming against the wind up a hill. I was 367 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.759 sitting beside and we're sitting inside the campfire, and I look and he just 368 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.599 you're seeing that, right? No, And we didn't actually say anything to 369 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.839 anybody. We're just being quiet. But every once in a while here they 370 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:15.799 become We actually paired up and we got down in a little valley. And 371 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:22.160 what I've learned is I track them different Now. I don't ever go after 372 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.440 them. I look for the evidence. I'm a daytime, and if I 373 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:30.000 see one, I use that curiosity I go away from if don't do anything 374 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.079 I related. If I was in Alaska with bears, it might be neat 375 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.599 to see one, I'd honestly just assume nazi, really, but I want 376 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.559 to know about him, and I don't want to know how to be around 377 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:42.680 them. What I'm showing him is for us, if we get in stuff 378 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.480 that's over knee high, we start thinking, oh, we got to Blazer 379 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:51.160 trail and this is thick, but for them, that's not. And if 380 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:56.920 you start looking up where somebody six seven eight nine feet tall would be clearing 381 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.759 things out of the way as they're moving through woods, you're going to find 382 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.440 those snaps and those twists. And he was just fascinated by He thought that 383 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:04.920 was native. It was his first experience. But we got down in this 384 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:11.200 valley and we heard the talk. We heard the talk people talk about him. 385 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:15.400 It was just he wasn't dispinsitive, but it was just not quite a 386 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.359 growl, like somebody's trying. But he looked at me and I looked at 387 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.720 here. So we got back up. We shared that experience. So we 388 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.400 got back up to the camp again. Didn't tell anybody, but we got 389 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.279 to be friends. So finally he's in this group by men and he's like, 390 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.359 please take me out. You're seeing this all the time, Please take 391 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.160 me out with you because he had not seen when he and he wants to 392 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.559 believe and he goes on these expeditions, but he said, I think you're 393 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.759 my best chance, and I'm quiet. I moved through the woods quietly. 394 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.680 I don't take more than one person out if I'm thinking I'm going to try 395 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.799 to see something. And really again, I'm just looking through the prince and 396 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.680 the sticks fascinate me. The glyphs and the things they do that they weave 397 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.160 in the I wonder if it's like their art work. I don't know. 398 00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:00.400 It's just awesome to me, so I'm looking for that. But I told 399 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.920 him we're going to go in this spot. They're going to know we're here. 400 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.839 We're gonna mind our own business. We're gonna go down to the lake 401 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:08.920 and we're gonna come back up. We'll start getting our activity. If we 402 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.960 get any on the way out, I think they'd really like to follow us 403 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.480 out. Is he's seeing all the stuff, it's neat. We're having a 404 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.440 good time. And then we get up on this ridge and we start hearing 405 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.880 you start hearing the footsteps, and he's looking at me, and you know, 406 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.480 I'm like, yeah, let's just go, and we go and we 407 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.400 stopped. We go and we stop. He gets really freaked out all of 408 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:32.960 a sudden, he said, did you see that? And I just looked 409 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.960 at him. He said it was a shadow, and he's like, did 410 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.720 you not quite thecighting, but he can see the shadow moving and it's close 411 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.839 to dusk along the trees over on this rig. And I'm just smiling at 412 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.519 him, and I said, let's give it a minute. I said, 413 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:49.960 here's the thing. I don't usually follow him, buddy, but that's our 414 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:56.240 way out. And so we waited a minute and we talked in we went 415 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.160 on and we get up on this little rise and you should see how the 416 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.400 leaves it stood out, how the leaves were like pushed up in a certain 417 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.200 way. And he noticed it, and I'm like, this is about where 418 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:07.759 you saw it, and he said, yeah, this is about it, 419 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.880 and he's looking around. He sees this, and he says, what would 420 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.319 do that? Because if you've seen a turkey scratch or deer scratch, you 421 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.640 know what that looks like. I laid down in it. I laid down 422 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.839 at it, and I said, ray, if I was watching you over 423 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.000 there, and I laid down right here, and it looked like one of 424 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.680 those chalk out lines they put on a body at a crime scene or something. 425 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.400 As soon as I got in it, you could just see this guy's 426 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:34.519 face just and I said, I'm not telling you what this is, but 427 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.599 I feel like it was laying on top of the ridge watching us, and 428 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.039 then we got post enough for it that it ran off because it knows this 429 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.079 is the way out. This big, strong dude looks right at me. 430 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.839 He said, all right, let's get out of here. So then that 431 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.720 was enough for him. He saw enough circumstantial stuff. And just because again, 432 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:59.400 when you realize you're being watched and if something wanted to turn watching you 433 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:04.240 into star talking you. These things are fast, they're strong. I don't 434 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:10.039 think I could carry a firearm big enough that I would be confident it would 435 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.599 get it before it could get me. I don't think I would shoot one. 436 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:17.480 I really don't. I don't, not even maybe not even self defense. 437 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.680 I maybe try to scare it, but that's how massive. People just 438 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:23.319 don't know until you've seen it. And so it's always in the back of 439 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:27.039 your head. Man, it sinks in here watching me. And again I'm 440 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.759 telling you, there's always two of them. Anytime I see something in front 441 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.960 of me, I'm more worried about what's behind. I'm right there with you, 442 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.839 man. I think you're dead on with that. We carried guns when 443 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.519 I was up in Canada. We had a forty five seventy or we had 444 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:45.599 a twelve gage with slugs and buckshot. But it was for the bears. 445 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.440 Right. We know there's a six or seven hundred pound bear that was wandering 446 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.119 around there that's been around for years, and we didn't want to run into 447 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.960 him without some kind of protection. It wasn't necessarily for a sasquatch. Because 448 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.319 I'm with you, I don't think I would be the one. Even with 449 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.119 a forty five seventy I'm not trying to shoot anything it's that big, because 450 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.960 it's just going to piss it off and I'm probably gonna get dragged into the 451 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.799 woods. I want to talk about some of the stick structures and the tree 452 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.839 breaks and things like that that you're finding, because I'm not on board with 453 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:17.119 that exactly. I've seen some weird stuff on the property here. I've seen 454 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:19.000 some weird stuff in Canada that doesn't make sense to me. As far as 455 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:25.359 the tree breaks, I can't process it in my brain and make myself fully 456 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:30.200 commit to the majority of what we saw was Bigfoot related. You mentioned glyphs. 457 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.240 There was a couple of times we found what looked like a's and some 458 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.720 other weird things that were made on the ground. Yep, you're nodding in 459 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.240 agreeing. So talk a little bit about some of the things that you're finding 460 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.880 as far as the stick structures breaks and the glyphs, and let's compare notes 461 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.480 and see if we're talking about the same thing here. Okay. So, 462 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.319 and actually it was neat. I just wrapped up. I was privileged enough 463 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:56.920 to have a small peace on an upcoming small town Monsters documentary that they're doing 464 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.599 over here in Lamb between the Lake and that's coming in the spring. And 465 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.000 I met a guy and I had some pictures. So I'm showing the producer 466 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.799 of some of these pictures and things and he looks. He says, oh, 467 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.119 you're finding some exes. And he says, the ones that leave the 468 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.440 exes are the ones you want to be around. And I tell you what 469 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.359 He actually asked me if I had found some other stuff. So I got 470 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.200 one certain area that I go to and I let him know where I'm at. 471 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.400 I actually wear the same clothes every time I go in the same way. 472 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.039 I stop the same places, and I'm just up on this little mound 473 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.960 like a peninsula that sticks out and there's several ridges surrounding it, and I'll 474 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.839 usually hang around there and I'll build a campfire or just spend some time there. 475 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.160 The first time I did it, I actually built a little wan to 476 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.880 just do some logs up, just to have it cold. So I just 477 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.640 want something to reflect a little fire. The next time I go back, 478 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:55.000 there's this law backwards leaned up down in the gully point in the other way, 479 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.559 and beside it there's a tree that had fallen with all the four shan 480 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.279 alpha. And this guy I met, he said, what that means? 481 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.839 Is there on that side you stay on this side in the bark? Is 482 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:14.440 they leave those markers for their juveniles to let them know where their boundaries are. 483 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.519 I'm wondering. I've just met this guy and I got to talk to 484 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.000 them more about it. But I'm fascinated that he even knew that would be 485 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:26.759 there without even talking to me being around. So, man, I tell 486 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:32.000 you what with these x's, they're perpendicular, and I don't know the geometrical 487 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:36.599 term there. Even there's the same amount of X on each side. It's 488 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.319 the center of them. The crossing is almost in the midst They're always left 489 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.920 around areas and trails. I find a lot of parallel sticks, and I 490 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.480 immediately go look for was this a tree that fell? Where's the root structure? 491 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.440 Was this brought in? Was this move? Could this have come from 492 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.920 a buck? And a lot of it is like that, But I tell 493 00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.480 you that I found the a symbols. I find sticks that aren't heavy enough 494 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.519 to fall and stick in the ground. I find them stuck and dug in 495 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.279 the ground. And then, man, it's the coolest thing on these rich 496 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:13.599 tops. I've got one I love because it seems to chain and a lot 497 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:17.880 of the scrub and thickets they'll be weaved in. They will be woven into 498 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.039 each other to make this. It's cool. It's just really and I'm wondering, 499 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.759 is it navigation? Is it warnings? Is it territory mark? Yeah, 500 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.799 I honestly think a lot of it's just artwork. I really did, 501 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.279 because I find so much of it, And you can tell. I've got 502 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.240 one that was there's a tree that comes up and it goes over and then 503 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:45.160 it goes up. And I found one under this one time, a really 504 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:50.079 intricate woven and there's no way that's falling the way this tree is if it's 505 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.799 not falling back, and then it's not falling and inner weaving itself with some 506 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.440 other things that just fell. Now, I will give you a lot of 507 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.640 it. I've taken my wife, taking my son of taking a couple of 508 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:05.400 good friends from high school and taking Ray in and it's about fifty shifs. 509 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.880 They're like, Okay, that could be something, and then they're like, 510 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.599 that's just stick's falling. Man, it's just sticks fall That's what I tell 511 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.480 myself every time I go into the woods and see some weird stuff. I'm 512 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.279 saying, it's just sticks falling. But there's a lot of it. Like 513 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:23.359 you said that, you just can't there's really no Ockham's razor explanation for what's 514 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:28.799 going on, because again I go back to the Radium expedition that one of 515 00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.960 the last days I was there, we found this huge tree with these three 516 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.039 I don't know, seventy eighty foot tall trees that were propped up and come 517 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.480 together and touching at the very tip, and they're pointing exactly due north and 518 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.480 one of them's exactly due south. Like that doesn't happen naturally, and there's 519 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.039 no rootball. Todd has actually went back out there and he did a video. 520 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.559 He took some expeditioners out a couple of weeks after we left, and 521 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:58.200 they dug down and there's no rootball for this tree. And even if there 522 00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.400 were root balls and these things were pushed over or fail, there the chances 523 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:07.640 of that happening naturally. I think I said it on we were out there. 524 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.599 It is like one in one centrillion of a chance that this could have 525 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:15.800 possibly happened naturally. So I don't know, man, I scratched my head 526 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.920 still when I find what looks like tree breaks and things like that. I 527 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.079 just was at snowload. Is it natural occurrences? Yea, and I talk 528 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.719 most of it. I'm probably more like an eighty twenty or maybe even ninety 529 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.880 ten that it's just a natural occurrence. But at some point and the art 530 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.119 thing makes for a conversation, right, because I've talked to people about that 531 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.239 before, have theorized that. And I guess my answer to that is as 532 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:45.719 a skeptical person or somebody who's just trying to find an alternate explanation, it 533 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:50.079 would be weird for me to think I'm thinking animalistically, right, if this 534 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.280 thing is some sort of an eight yep. Would they do that or would 535 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:57.280 they have time to do that? Would it be something they were doing other 536 00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.480 than surviving? But I tell you, the more you study great apes, 537 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.519 you find some of the things that they do that you wouldn't think that a 538 00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.880 gorilla would do, or a chimpanzee or an orangutan. So is it beyond 539 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.840 the pale to think that these things are making some kind of glyphs for entertainment? 540 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.400 Probably not, I don't think so. It's a possibility, yeah, 541 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.440 and so so personally, I'm a Christian and I look at things through that 542 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.119 limbs a lot. But even if you set that aside and looked at the 543 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:32.280 Darwinian evolution model, whoever these people were, they were doing cave painting and 544 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.800 were able to do art. This thing is on one side of those either 545 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.119 earlier or even a little later. I think they're really intelligent. The three 546 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.280 that I have found two parallel sticks or logs, and we're talking about this 547 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:53.960 big maybehendred twelve feet long together parallel perfectly. I have found a lot of 548 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:59.639 times and then maybe chen to twenty yards later there's going to be a path. 549 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.000 There's going to be a road or path, And I have found that 550 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.519 consistently, this might be telling them this is where the people are. I've 551 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.159 found the a's and I've found the exes a lot. It's weird though. 552 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.280 This other stuff, though, it's just unique, and they take it down 553 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.280 and then they replace it with other stuff, or I say, thank whoever's 554 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.119 out there coincidentally doing this stuff though I can find it. But if there 555 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:29.559 was a lot of people that were really big Blair Witch fans and had it 556 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.000 in them to hike and go through this and get miles off track to do 557 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:37.199 this stuff, I'll buy that. But if not, I think they're doing 558 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.320 some kind of artwork. I really do. You could be right, man, 559 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:43.960 I love it. It interests me. I'm into it. Like I 560 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.840 said, I go out hiking. We hiked the property a couple of days 561 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.840 ago and I didn't find anything like I normally do. We hiked a different 562 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.360 area. We try to do that every single time we go out. Honestly, 563 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:54.679 it's probably the opposite of what I should be doing as far as bigfoot 564 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.559 from what I've heard, very much like you. I've talked to Shane in 565 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.280 the past and people like Herrington who go out and they do the exact same 566 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.440 thing over and over. They're very regimented, even to the point of wearing 567 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.480 the same clothes, because they get familiar with you coming in and out of 568 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.440 the area, so that tends to work better for the research. I'm just 569 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.719 out hiking with the dogs, and I'm usually trying to escape bigfoot stuff. 570 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.280 When I get out into the woods, I still look at it with an 571 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:20.719 open mind. If I see something that sticks out, I'll snap a picture 572 00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:23.199 of it or whatever and go back to it later on. Let's talk about 573 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.199 your other experiences. Man, I know you're having other things going on out 574 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.280 there, So what else has happened to you when you've been out in the 575 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.599 woods. Well, the coolest thing that just happened, and I took the 576 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.679 picture, and I'm calling in paradolia. I'm not putting it out there, 577 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:42.960 but I think just like I go in and wear the same I've got an 578 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:49.440 area it's probably ten or twelve miles long where I think they might know me. 579 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.400 I don't know, but I will tell you I'm the only boat I 580 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:58.000 go fishing where people are not. I'm old school. There's so many people 581 00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.239 out. I don't like people coming in this same coal by men. Well, 582 00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:05.239 now, if you get a fifty yard stretch of bank. To yourself, 583 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.519 that's big. So I just go where people aren't and I will literally 584 00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:12.719 be the only boat in these areas all day. And then there was a 585 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.679 couple of things that happened. The cool one was I had my son with 586 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.599 me and he was pretty much a skeptic, and we're drifting back down into 587 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.639 this little creek and a deer comes running out right in front of us, 588 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:28.559 across the water and it shallows up. We got a creak and then it 589 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.920 shallows up and there's a little hawk buries itself and what we call buckbruts. 590 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.559 The boat went right by. We could have touched got that clock, and 591 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:38.440 it was just looking and he said, ed, what is this. Have 592 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.119 you ever had this happen? I said, no, I don't know what's 593 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.440 going on. We ate the boat just a little bit more so when we 594 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.239 first noticed that the deer's come across the front. When we got to the 595 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.000 back, seventeen foot bowt the deer would be at the engine. All of 596 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.920 a sudden he runs up the hill and it's so thick in there. I 597 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.039 can't explain to people. They're like, if it was that clothes, I 598 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:01.480 didn't you see it, and it's like you said, get off your cap, 599 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.960 get off your cap. But my son's eyes because he's been in the 600 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.440 woods. He's twenty we've been twenty four that time. It's not dear season, 601 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.880 that's not a hunter. And I said, I think we just saved 602 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:16.960 that deer's life or really upset something. And again we got out of there. 603 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.760 So I go back to this same place that would have been last year. 604 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.360 This spring, I was back in that same place, and again I 605 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.000 like the quiet. I think I see a lot more because I'm just stealing 606 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.840 quiet. And I had my boat up against the fallen tree. One walk 607 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:35.760 right by, I mean thirty yards walk right just walking right down the bank, 608 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:38.599 and I was shocked. I honestly fell. Ok. It might not 609 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:43.559 know why I'm here. So when it got past me, I'm lifting up 610 00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.920 my troll and motor. I don't know if you've got any experience with that, 611 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.360 but they're up on the front of a boat. The troll, the 612 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:52.800 motor lifts up. You got to pull this clicker to release the latch, 613 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.639 and man, it clicked and I dropped it and it just clanked, and 614 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.760 oh no. And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see We'll be right 615 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:09.280 back after these messages. I honestly don't think if I got a good video 616 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.239 of one, i'd probably show the people I trusted and knew were into it, 617 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:15.360 and we're going to exploit it. But I'm not going to throw it 618 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.559 up on my Facebook and say, look, world, I don't think I 619 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.440 want everybody down there messing with. Really, I would like it for my 620 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.400 own curiosity. And I think it's a feat we hear of. It's always 621 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.360 blurry, it's always But I went on down the bank and I just videoed 622 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.239 down the bank, and I've analyzed it, and I think I got it 623 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.960 peeking back at me behind a tree. Because what I like to do is 624 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.159 I changed the aspect. So I think a screenshot and if you change all 625 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:47.440 the aspects of something colored tints, sharpness, everything, If it changes the 626 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.519 same way as the leaves or the tree it's next to, it's probably a 627 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.360 tree. But this maintains its own integrity, it's own different color. That's 628 00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.719 why I don't know it's interesting, but I say it was, Oh my 629 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:01.679 wife. I almost don't want to talk about it. Because Charlie Raymond, 630 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.639 the founder of the Kentucky Dicksfoot Research Organization. He's never seen one, and 631 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.039 I think I heard the other think clip for Roman, never actually seen one. 632 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:17.039 So I've had sick class a clear sighting of these things. That was 633 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.320 my best in the latest one, and again I scared it and it took 634 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.760 off. You mentioned in your email that you had other weird things. You 635 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:29.320 and I talked a little bit off air the first time you were on a 636 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.760 couple of years ago about some of the weird things that you've experienced. Are 637 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.960 you okay getting into some of that and talking about the orbs and other stuff. 638 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.320 Absolutely. I don't know you caught the video. I sent you a 639 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.840 little video and I didn't even notice this happened. I think we talked about 640 00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.880 it. I had an experience in Waverley Hill in Louis and I've always been 641 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:52.320 open minded. I don't think people are lying. I looked for the rational 642 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.559 explanation, and I was very much like that about ghosts until it happened to 643 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.239 me. Then that opened up. And this was I don't know, back 644 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:06.840 in two thousand three, four or five, long time ago, but I've 645 00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.079 since found out. I guess I'm pretty sensitive to it, and I don't 646 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:13.760 want to refine my skill or act like I'm a psychic or a medium or 647 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.320 anything. So I've seen a lot of lights and a lot of orbs, 648 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:20.719 and I think people ask me about Bigfoot what I think they are, and 649 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:25.239 I'm putting an asterisk by it now because of the supernatural stuff. A lot 650 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.840 of times you see the orbs, and we talked about it on your last 651 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.760 show. We've seen that they disappear. They just disappear. I play a 652 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.360 little music and I recorded sometimes in my Facebook's private but some of my friends 653 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.639 like and I played church a little bit and I was playing a song for 654 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:45.679 my why or just practicing and recording myself in the sofa. Listen in my 655 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:51.639 home. This is in my house and man, I looked at I'm watching 656 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:57.039 it and I see something fly over my head and into my walk and again 657 00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.960 I got a screenshot of it, and it's got its own It's just weirdness. 658 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:01.119 My wife and she said, do you see that. I said, 659 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:05.360 yeah, I had done another take before this, and I go back to 660 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.360 this take. Something comes out of my shoulder, gets me in the cheek, 661 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.280 takes off and at the time it hits me in the cheek, something 662 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.360 comes out of my other shoulder, comes out, comes across my body, 663 00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.960 stops and then takes off the ball of light. And it freaked me out 664 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:27.159 because I have it came out of me. It came out of my shoulder. 665 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.760 And like I said, I think I sent that one to you. 666 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.239 If I didn't, I can. But I've opened up to the fact that 667 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:36.360 I think we're not alone. I don't think we die. I think we're 668 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.519 spiritual. However you want to frame that in your life, but I think 669 00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:44.519 our spirits live on, and I think we're surrounded by And again, if 670 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:49.639 you take the Bible just as a book it's a spiritual, supernatural thing, 671 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.920 then it clearly tells you there's all kinds of the giants, there's spirits, 672 00:43:53.960 --> 00:44:00.280 there's all kinds of stuff. So our home is on a place it was 673 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.599 built before the Civil War. We've actually got a Revolutionary War soldier buried in 674 00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.519 a little cemetery behind my house. And I've done all the genealogy, and 675 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:14.320 I don't have the money or time to personally restore this. I've uncovered all 676 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.599 the graves and surrounded it and taken care of it as much as I can. 677 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.760 And we actually named my youngest daughter, after a thirteen month old that 678 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.719 died that their tombstone is there, and it is a beautiful tombstone. It's 679 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.840 really neat things. I think there's energy there. I think the people that 680 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.159 live there actually died there and are buried there. And I think that's more 681 00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:37.199 conducive to a haunting or some type of thing. I know. I don't 682 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:42.239 think I've ever told this on air. I see them, I see them, 683 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.679 and I know they're around. And when my wife and I started dating, 684 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.079 I warned her about it, and I said I wanted to show her. 685 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.880 So I had this building. I saved part of this old homestead and 686 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.800 I made about a thousand square foot shop. We built a house behind that 687 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.840 sense and I took her in there. It's dark, and I turned the 688 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.920 flash light on and showed her how you do it and how you make it 689 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.239 come on. And Joe, I said, Okay, this is Kara. 690 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.719 She's here. She wants to be part of this family, and she's going 691 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.840 to be around. Just wanted to see if you let her know if you 692 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:19.039 were here and light comes on, which she's that could happen, quintens whatever. 693 00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.239 And I said, thank you for that. Can you turn it off 694 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.280 when they went off, and Nick got pitched black in that place. She's 695 00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.960 holy, she's not freaked out about it. The only thing that freaked her 696 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.320 out was when we had our first child. We had a mobile, little 697 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.360 mobile over the crib and I came home from work one day and she's got 698 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.679 the baby and she's in the living room. What are you doing? Because 699 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.519 I can tell she's bothered. She said, they won't leave this mobile alone. 700 00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.760 I think, come on, even though I believe in and I'm still 701 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:47.840 again no ways. So I went in there. I take this mobile, 702 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.599 I twist it on, I let it play, I bang it. It's 703 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.199 not coming on. I said, it's fine. I hung that mobile up, 704 00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.280 took two steps out of the room and you hear it bing, and 705 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.079 she needed to do it away, and she just told them stay away from 706 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.320 the baby. Her sister comes and we've got some baby toys now, a 707 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.679 little Daniel tiger trolley, and it will consistently turn that trolley on, only 708 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.440 it'll turn it in and it freaks her sister out in it. So it's 709 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:21.119 not it's mischievous. I don't think it's anything evil or demonic or anything in 710 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.239 my experience, but that has to be out there, and you hear these 711 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:30.559 stories man of these people. So thankfully my experiences with the paranormal, if 712 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.400 somehowered me in. I did some investigation for some people and helps some people 713 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.639 out with some things in the past, and it was pretty rewarding. And 714 00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:44.480 again, I've found only a couple times before I thought this was demonic or 715 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:49.440 really bad. Let's go down this road for a second with Bigfoot and the 716 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.920 paranormal, because that's something that comes up often on the show. It again 717 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.239 with the Radium expedition, there was a lot of talk of mind speak and 718 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.199 precognition and a lot of things that go on with Bigfoot. Where are you 719 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.920 with that? Have you had experiences or have talked to enough people that have 720 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.840 had experiences? Do you believe that's something that could be connected to Bigfoot? 721 00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:12.400 That's subjective. It's obviously your opinion. I don't think anybody really knows, 722 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.880 but talk about that as far as your opinion. I've certainly adjusted my opinion 723 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.159 to and fro as I go, and the more people I talk to, 724 00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.320 what I think today may be something different tomorrow. Do you think it's possible 725 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:28.639 that this mind speak and this telepathic communication that goes on with people is a 726 00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:30.599 thing between Bigfoot or do you think it's just a mental thing that goes on 727 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.360 in people's heads. Do you think it's even a possibility when it comes to 728 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.320 Bigfoot? Yeah, and I just I'll use an example. So I've got 729 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:43.639 a degree. I've got a master's degree in interpersonal communicate. Yeah, I 730 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.159 tell people my dad was one of the original members of Delta Force. Now 731 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:51.519 I've got pictures. I hate saying things I can't prove. But in the 732 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:55.519 extreme mental capacity that these soldiers and these people that are in that and even 733 00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.679 a lot of people in law enforcement, the extreme mental capacity you have to 734 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.719 have, and just the belief in the power of your mind. Now, 735 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.239 I never served, but I was raised that way. Have you ever heard 736 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.280 of remote viewing? Absolutely? Okay. So I used to teach a communication 737 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.639 class in high school. I tend to think a lot of these things we 738 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:22.920 call supernatural or extrasensory or abilities we all have, we just have buried them 739 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.039 because we rely so much on science, which is an awesome way of looking 740 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:32.880 at things but has its limitations. Is what Okay, And I've thought high 741 00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.159 school kids how to remote view a lot of them I can do it a 742 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:43.360 little bit, and it's not to the level of going someplace and being able 743 00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.000 to get outside your body and see suff I tell you what I used to 744 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.199 do. I used to tell them to to hold up their cell phones and 745 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.559 one of them is looking at a picture. The other one can learn. 746 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.960 Because I think we send signals just like sound waves, like smells. I 747 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:05.280 think the extreme emotion our minds can send that out like you can walk in 748 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.239 a room and if people in that room have been fighting, without saying a 749 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.920 word, you can walk in there and feed the home field advantage? Why 750 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.639 is home field advantage a thing? All stadiums roll out, all stadiums have 751 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.239 cheerings, refer in the same field to the same Why is home field advantage 752 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.480 the thing it is? It's a miserable thing. It's because of the emotion 753 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:29.840 that we're sending out and we've just buried our ability or put it in this 754 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.840 weird realm. So I got to with these kids. I had them, 755 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.440 We took all the cell phones, we lined objects up, We took the 756 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.119 kids out of the room. We picked the other kids to take these objects, 757 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:44.280 go hide and around the school and then come back. And two of 758 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.920 these kids were able to pick the guy that got the object, what the 759 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.599 object was, and where the object put And it's not extra sensory. It's 760 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.280 me. But what I'm saying is it's a skill and maybe we're more predisposed 761 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.239 to it or open to it. And I think we are in the Bigfoot 762 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:06.400 realm. Possibly some of them are better at it or not. So I 763 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.760 don't know yet. I haven't experienced the mind speak. I told you this 764 00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:15.480 frequency thing. I'm just getting into this, but we all vibrate, so 765 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:21.519 I'm very open to it as maybe not supernatural, but just the skills and 766 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.880 abilities we have that we haven't honed in on yet. And you look at 767 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:28.679 the same You've got examples of this, like the women that lift cars off 768 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.360 their kids when there's a rack or something. And we've got in a box. 769 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.079 Okay, a five foot, eight hundred and twenty pounds woman should be 770 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.599 able to lift this. A human should be able to lift this. So 771 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:43.920 I don't know. I'm really open to it. I do because of my 772 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.000 faith and where I'm at. You've heard of the nephilin stories and the things 773 00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:51.119 of that nature as well, so I'm open to that as well. With 774 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:55.760 these things maybe being really aware and able to use their mind and connect, 775 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:02.119 or maybe being actually spiritual, angelic, or whatever you might o. I 776 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:06.400 don't know if that even answers your question, right, It definitely did, 777 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.519 man, you went above and beyond. Again, I know it's all subjective. 778 00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:12.440 Those are the kind of questions I like to talk about and get answers 779 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.119 from people, because everybody has their opinions and you just never really know where 780 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.599 people are. That's one of the things that in addition just to meeting great 781 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.159 people and having great conversations like this, that's what I love about Bigfoot is 782 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:28.519 you just get to ask all kinds of crazy questions and go down rabbit holes 783 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.960 that you never thought you would go down. We would have never met had 784 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.880 it not been for Bigfoot. We wouldn't be having this conversation if it weren't 785 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.639 for Bigfoot right now. So I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences. 786 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.360 Man, I've had a blast talking to you. Absolute you know, 787 00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:45.000 right back at you. Man, it's great. They say you don't gotta 788 00:51:45.159 --> 00:52:15.639 go home, but you can't stay. I don't want to sign steps step 789 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:27.239 trying this chart, that chart everything, calling ride riding back joy from me 790 00:52:28.280 --> 00:53:47.079 Joy staying right, call it right away. Still suppose satists sasstsssssssssh