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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Now, here's Nick coffee. All
right, So some breaking and exciting

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scheduling news for Louisville basketball here as
we get the four o'clock hours started on

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Sports Talk seven ninety. UFL just
sent out a release within the last few

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minutes announcing a home and home series
with Tennessee. So Louisville will play.

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The volunteers will host him at the
UMP Center this year on November ninth,

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which will be an early game.
Gotta be one of your first games of

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the season, to be honest with
you. And the return game will be

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in Knoxville next season December sixteenth.
So I love legitimate game on the schedule

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that give you a chance to not
only get a win that could really impact

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your resume, you know, in
the offseason or I'm sorry, in the

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non conference I just say, but
also to see where you stand, like

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louis was going to find out pretty
early where they stand because they're playing in

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the Battle for Atlantis and the Bahamas. But you know, I know why

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you play some of the the the
you know, the by games, right

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and last year I mean they strategically
scheduled a week week non conference schedule to

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help Kenny, and he still lost
to some of those teams. And you

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know, even when he did beat
those really bad teams ranked in like the

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three hundreds, you found yourselves one
nearly losing and also falling in these metrics

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because you know that's how bad they
were, and you barely beat him.

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So anyways, uh, if this
is a sign ast the way as to

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how pack Kelsey's gonna want to schedule, I love it because I love a

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challenging non I mean, I wouldn't
be bothered if every year Louisville had a

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top five schedule as far as strength, because it you know, it's it's

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it's gonna. Let I mean,
first of all, it's bet it's more

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entertaining. Like I hate watching a
game in any sport, mostly basketball and

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football for Louisville, this is what
I relate it to. If I can't

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realistically learn much of anything about my
team in that game, I kind of

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feel like it's a waste of time. Now again that's just me talking as

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a fan. You know, consuming
the product. If you're a coach and

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you have thirteen new scholarship players,
it would make sense if you'd want to

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have a lot of those games this
year to kind of work it out and

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get everybody on the same page because
it's all brand new. But when Louisville

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is back where we want them to
be, meaning just competitively with you know,

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being competitive with some of the best
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consistently being a top twenty five team, when we get there. Of

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course, if we get there,
I hope we will, I think we

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will. I'd love to see a
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again that doesn't mean every game you
play in the non conference is going to

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be against a Power five team that's
ranked, because that's never going to be

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the case. But you know,
Denny used to schedule really tough. Rick

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would schedule tough enough. But during
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I guess mostly after Conference USA,
when Louislle was in the Big East,

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in the early years of their existence
in the ACC, you could play a

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few non come maybe four games in
the non conference that were legitimately challenges to

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where if you win, it's a
big win for you. In the non

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con if you lose, it's probably
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But then it'll all work itself out
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well in your league, you're going
to be safely in the tournament. Because

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you know, there was a time
where Louisville in the Big East and again

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early on in the ACC to or
where you didn't have to worry about getting

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the benefit of the doubt because of
your conference. Well now it's changed.

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So the first question I have here
is Louisville being in this game on November

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the ninth against Tennessee. Is this
like the unofficial confirmation that they're not going

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to be in the ACC SEC Challenge
once again? Like I think that's what

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this is now. The biggest lie
ever told by the ACC was that Louisville

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was left out last year because they
finished last in the league, because that's

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something they can fall back on if
they need to, But they don't always

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follow that when Louisville was a part
of the ACC Big Ten Challenge, which

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that's what it was until things changed
to where now the Big Ten doesn't have

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any affiliation with the with ESPN,
does it only if they're playing like I

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think maybe the Bahamas games might be
on the EN but but those rights are

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owned by that event, you know
what I'm saying. So you'll never have

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home games, yes, like you'll
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on ESPN. So because of that, they switched it up to her.

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Now again, it's the it's the
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And last year Louis was left out
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it just was I mean, there's
a lot of I mean to me,

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that was just a one of many
things that you know, really told us

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where we were is that we didn't
already know. But there are two previous

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instances where the last place team in
the lead the year before didn't get left

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out. And the best example in
the one I can remember. I know

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that I looked into it because I
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no, you know, because I
remember doing what I typically did, you

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know, not being able to control
myself and talking about here, you know,

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this is where we are. God
bless us, Kenny Pannes the coach,

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and it's a dumpster fire, and
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there's nothing, you know, it's
a new team. They didn't leave

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us out because they think we sucked. They left us out because we finished

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last last year and it wasn't Kitty's
Faulty won four games. Believe it or

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not. There are people listening right
now that would say those kind of things,

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and it would just make me want
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don't have because I'm thinking, well, you do realize he was the guy

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who was coaching when they won four
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falls on him. So anyways,
Virginia Tech, I believe in twenty eighteen

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or nineteen made the Sweet sixteen with
Buzz Williams. Following year, they were

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the team left out, so like
they don't always do that, and you

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would think they would want Louisville because
Louisville, despite being in a rough spot

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in recent years, they're still going
to generate more interest in you know,

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the Look, these are essentially bowl
games. They're television matchups. That's what

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that's in fact, that's what this
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a is A is a television event? I mean, obviously it's a real

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game and it's for your schedule.
It's not a bowl game to where it's

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like, you know, a gore
Fied exhibition. But ESPN owns these rights.

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They are looking to put the best
matchups together to where you get a

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bunch of people watching. That is
why more often than not, these things

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are scheduled pretty easily, right Like
rarely will you see a Vandy taking on

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a Duke. Like you'll never see
that because you're talking about the cream of

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the crop in the league and the
bum Why would they do that. That's

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not They don't flip a coin.
They strategically match these teams together to where

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you are going to have clearly some
games you're gonna put on espn U or

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the SEC network, and then you
have the games where you're gonna put them

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on the four letter prime time.
And it's when you get Indiana in Duke

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or Indiana and Carolina playing, which
I know when it was the ACC Big

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Ten Challenge, I know, I
know, it's very common. Yeah,

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have to happen. Yeah, And
Louislle played Michigan State a lot in that

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they played Michigan, they played Ohio
State. They ended up playing Purdue a

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couple of times too. So I
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believing that Louisville will be left out
again because you would think that there'd be

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some more interest in, you know, putting them in this event playing anybody

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rather than choosing Georgia Tech or Boston
College or teams like that. But I

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don't know. I feel like because
here's the and I'm glad somebody pointed this

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out because I tweeted this as soon
as they posted it on Twitter. I

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said, you know, this is
awesome. Curious if it means Louisville has

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been left out of the ACC SEC
Challenge for the second straight year. If

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they're in, they'd be playing two
SEC teams before Christmas. Nope, it's

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three. So if you're in the
ACC SEC Challenge, which by the way,

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they may not even know those matchups
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you're in that I don't remember when
that gets unveiled. But sometimes, I

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mean, there's this belief that you
have to schedule things eight years in advance.

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You don't. I mean Rick Patino, because it's Patino. He got

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Louisville's opponent in the ACC Big Ten
Challenge switched once. I think it might

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have been it might have been the
year they played. I don't know which

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year it was, but they were. So this is a blast from the

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past here, and it really wasn't
a blast. But Jaquan Lyle, who

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remembers that name, Evansville kid,
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He was I believe, committed to
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ended up at Ohio State. Well, Jaquan Lyle was also apparently one of

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the recruits that talked to the NCAA
about the Katina pal stuff, and it

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became clear that he was somebody that
was on a visit when those alleged things

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happened and whatnot, and Rick was
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point when they played, and Rick
did something called somebody I don't know who,

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and they switched it to where I
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And I think that year. Maybe
I'm wrong here, maybe I got

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my timeline mixed up, but they
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And the reason I know is because
at the time, this was,

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yeah, this was let me see
here, I was working an ieheart because

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I remember Terry Minors, who for
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close with Rick literally where they would
talk, you know, often not just

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in an interview, and you know
it's been eight years, I believe eight

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seven years since that happened. But
I remember, you know, Terry in

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so many ways kind of telling me, yeah, Rick wasn't gonna let that

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happen. And because Rosstein broke the
news, Lovell was playing Ohio State and

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then he was wrong and it was
because they switched him. Anyways, I'd

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love for Louis will play three SEC
teams because I'd rather play those teams than

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play you know, a bunch of
morehead states, which I only mention them

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because we now know that's who Louis
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on what day is it? I
think it's is it the third? Yeah?

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I mean, like heck, their
second game maybe Tennessee because that's gonna

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be November the ninth. So I
love these kind of skit. I love.

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I love home and homes. You
know, the non conference tournaments that

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take place in the Bahamas, those
are fun too, right, those are

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a lot of fun. But a
good old fashioned home and home in college

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sports is is what it should be, right, Like the neutral sites.

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The neutral site stuff can be cool
if like it's a tournament, like it's

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a multi team event, and that's
what the Battle for Atlantis is and the

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Maui Invitational and whatnot. But I
think it's so stupid that I mean it,

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when you play like the CBS Sports
Classic in New Orleans or Chicago,

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when nobody goes played on campus,
man, the atmosphere, the environment,

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it's an open like, it's an
open opportunity for you to make a bunch

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of money with ticket sales, right
like Calip Perry. I don't know if

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he's responsible for it, but he
started doing that to where they'd play.

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Kentucky would play some of their best
non conference games on neutral sites or I

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mean, yeah, I guess it's
still a neutral site, but like they'd

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go play I can't think of any
that they would go play a team ran

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like, for example, they would
go to play Gonzaga, but he wouldn't

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play them at their place. He'd
play them in you know, Spokane's biggest

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arena that's not on campus. He
would go play Seaton Hall, but he

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wanted to play him in the garden, not at Seaton Hall's campus, because

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you know, he just wanted to
make it like a big event. And

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by the way, he's doing that
at Arkansas too. They've got game scheduled

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for I think they're gonna play a
game in the garden. They're gonna play.

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I mean, he's going to continue
to try to. I mean,

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by all accounts, Cali Perry's not
doing anything differently at Arkansas that he did

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at Kentucky. Now will it work
out the same? Only time will tell.

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But is Kentucky still playing like in
the Champions Class again? Be a

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sports classic without count? They are
okay? But and I have no clue

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if it's true or not. It's
just Arkansas. You know, media guys

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saying that Col's gonna fight for ESPN
to switch Kentucky in Arkansas, which I

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don't think they would do that,
but I could totally see him trying.

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That would be something. Wouldn't he
try to? Like me, He's gonna

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try to stick it to him?
Oh this is Col. Yeah, So

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there you have it. Louisville Tennessee
set for November ninth. I cannot wait

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for Louisville basketball season and cannot wait. Can't wait for football either, But

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with basketball it's new. We are
desperate for some good vibes, and the

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vibes are here. You know,
as far as what you can do when

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you've been hired and are putting a
team together. But when it comes to,

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you know, seeing this team in
action again, we have no clue

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what it's really gonna look like.
But certainly I think a lot of things

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in place in the first couple of
months on the job for Pat Kelsey for

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fans to be justifiably excited, and
that makes me happy. All Right,

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we'll talk more about the Dan Hurley
situation coming up here in just a few

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minutes. For those just not joining
us, I'm assuming you know the news.

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We really spent the majority of the
first hour discussing it. Danny Hurley

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is being courted by the Los Angeles
Lakers, and I think the way this

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has played out, meaning the timing, meaning the way the news broke,

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I feel like it's happening. He's
going to go to the Lakers, and

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I believe that Yukon will will probably
I think we'll probably promote Luke Murray,

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which kind of sounds crazy because Luke
Murray has never been head coach before,

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and you know, you're you'd be
taking over a program that just won back

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to back national championships. But I
do think if you're a Yukon and you

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want to keep this thing in motion, and it's not going to be possible

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if he leaves, because again he's
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is super I mean, he's if
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who knows, maybe one day he'll
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the best that ever did it.
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look at what he's doing right now. Luke Murray could keep that team

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together. And Luke Murray is actually
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say mostly responsible for, but he
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Hurley to implement the offense and run
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get him together offensively. And the
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and I'm sure Danny Hurley has a
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like Luke Murray, like, I
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Bruce Pearl is a name that Jeff
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think that's being put out there unless
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that if Yukon opens up and Hurley
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anyways, real quick back to the
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it's been proven. Then he'll throw
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cryptic, that could mean a couple
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keep people guessing. Then he'll later
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you even wonder more so, like
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it mean? Well, yesterday he
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for a few days. Actually,
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He might have deleted that too,
by the way, they're sweaty tweeted,

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Yeah, he says, taking a
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believe everything you see on the internet. Nobody knows what that could mean,

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but some even myself at least a
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made up and there's no communication between
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that they're they're going to try to
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going to visit but there's these little
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that like, are we being we
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on Monday, the tweet from Pat
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Thief of the Night, Like,
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about anything, but others seem to
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first sign that something was in the
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in Arkansas added too, Bigs Coleman, Hawkins really doesn't have as many options

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as he once did. He look, he can go, he can find

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place to play, but as far
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resources and a role, you know, Louisville apparently is in good shape because

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he's reportedly going to visit, but
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and like nothing ever comes from this, is it like the ultimate troll job,

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because look, Pat Kelsey can't talk
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out and say yes he is visiting
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talking earlier with Ken Spencer today and
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Pat Kelsey's doing his sit downs,
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mine next week looking forward to that. And this is what Ken Spencer asked

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him about the roster. I'll just
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Do you feel like your roster ha
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the makeup we love. I love
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have a veteran, mature team,
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programs with winning DNA's. We have
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but had a lot of success in
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staying old is very very important.
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their BASKETAYQ, their basketball intellect,
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be one of the major advantages in
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not trying to think any of it
because you know what would that give me?

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he visits, and if he commits
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And I do think it realistically can
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that they're the most likely landing spot
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anything else, but because he said
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There are already some saying, wait
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of telling us that, like,
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Coleman Hawkins said, don't believe everything
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a level of overthinking that one I
can appreciate because we're so we're so back

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as a fan base, just being
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to everything because we're crazy, and
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would hope that that's one of the
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and he's going to embrace it rather
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it. But I'm not looking to, you know, fast forward the weekend,

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because hey, the weekends are great, but I I'm looking forward to

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at least seeing it happen, meaning
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sure that he's here, and then
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to see if he is impressed and
he wants to join in and helping Pat

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Kelsey get this thing turned around.
Fingers crossed because again, this would be

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a massive addition. There's no doubt
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said it throughout the week. I'm
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they don't get him it's going to
be disastrous because I think with the thirteen

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players they've added thus far, this
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good season, makes the tournament,
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up winning a couple of games.
We'll never know until we actually see what

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they look like on the floor.
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right now, a lot to like. But man, you throw in Hawkins

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and it's you know, it's even
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right, let's get to a quick
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side. Keep the party rolling along. I am not a conspiracy theory guy.

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You guys know that. In fact, I find myself being very naive

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when it comes to that kind of
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But if it comes out that this
in this WNBA stuff is all strategically

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planned to keep them in the news, I believe it because the Caven Clark

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stuff's one thing. But the last
couple of days there's been some stuff that's

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just to me seems forced. It's
a forced attempt to keep the WNBA talked

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about for longer than it ever has
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to that and some other stuff that
I want to make sure we save some

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feel about Thornton's right here on Sports
Talk seven ninety. All right, so

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the Danny Hurley news is dominating the
news cycle right now. In fact,

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we'll let you hear some updated sound
from WOJ who is already on set with

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the ESPN crew there as they're getting
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think before we let you hear the
sound, he actually will let you here

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in just a second. Here we
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or the Lakers have Hurley's attention,
and again it just comes down to getting

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him to, you know, to
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know, I happen to think that
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don't feel I guess there's a chance
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Yeah, I've got something so good
going here, and as attractive as

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the Lakers' position is it's just,
you know, it's hard to walk away

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because it could it could crumble.
Look, when you're pro coach, you

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are so expendable. And that's why
coaching in the pros obviously it's a phenomenal

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opportunity for anybody in basketball. But
you could be a good coach. They

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could know you're a good coach,
they could know that you have potential.

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But if they've got way more money
tied up in a superstar, they're going

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to get rid of you before they
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And in college, you know,
you don't have to worry about that.

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Now you got to win. And
there's some that you know are going to

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try to point this out as another
example. The great coaches are leaving college

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because of the portal and because of
nil And Hurley's done his fair share of

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complaining about the portal and whatnot.
But I mean, it hasn't stopped him

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from having a lot of success,
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he put to the other two phenomenal
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midst of the Ultimate Wild Wild West. Right, here's the latest from woej

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on Dan Hurley and the Lakers pursuing
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quickly now, whether that's the weekend, whether that's early next week. I

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don't think that this is going to
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Yukon program and having the uncertainty about
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who at some point here really have
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have been focused on Dan Hurley from
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the groundwork to get him interested and
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LA. I'm told he's going to
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that Rob Polenka, Jenny Buss.
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a program in place in LA that
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consider to be a leg coach.
They've had them in LA pat Riley,

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Phil Jackson, coaches who spanned a
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not fair to put any young coach
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Hurley as a coach who can be
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a program and give him a lot
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like what Lakers basketball is what a
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that together. That's what they're selling
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secret of his ambition to eventually coach
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another clip I'm going to share with
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ago that really, you know,
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anybody would ever have even thought he'd
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mean, he, as woj just
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it a secret that he does aspire
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would think, once you've won back
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to be there, and like,
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college? Like maybe the timing actually
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but one of the clips that I
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Wojes discussing this big story in the
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a higher that is best for the
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him when making this highre very humble
of you, Lebron, because you'd never

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make anything about you. I mean, you'd never step in and tell an

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organization, your employer what to do, would you never you? That's not

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that's O of character Lebron. You
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is just so Lebron. I mean, in fact, he's already tried to

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make the biggest, you know,
one of the bigger storylines in the NBA

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about him, right, Like,
this is Kyrie Irving, who I don't

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like, right, but he's in
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success in the NBA without Lebron,
and now he's with Dallas and he's clearly

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option number two. I mean,
he's this is this is Luca's team.

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it was talking about how the most
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and wishes so much he was still
his running mate. Like that's faux humble,

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That is you wanting to make it
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yesterday at the press conference, when
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you hear what Lebron said about you? I mean, like, come on,

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I mean Lebron. That's why I
like as much as I respect Lebron

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as being one of the best it's
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think he's one of one. There'll
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the talented player that he is.
But man, like, come on,

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Lebron, because I don't want him
to be this guy that, like,

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I can't defend, who has no
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Lebron. But pardon my take.
The podcast that has Big Cat and

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PFT, they I mean, I'm
assuming a lot of you listening know who

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that is, but they had Danny
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won a national championship this past year. Actually it might have been after the

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first championship, but this has made
its rounds because it's it's pretty much,

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you know, anybody thinking that Dan
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He's told you that he aspires, uh

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you know, to do that.
This is when he was on with uh

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yeah, with with the pardon my
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this isn't there, but I get
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pass championship I'll give you the opportunity. We'll do a headline grab here.

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So I'll just give you the opportunity
to say, the Houston Rockets call you

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tomorrow, we want Dan Hurley as
our head coach. What do you say?

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Yeah, No, I'm not.
I've still got some I got some

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developing to do on the sideline.
There's no one coaching like me in the

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NBA. They're not ready. They're
not ready. They're not ready, and

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maybe I'm certainly not ready. I
do believe. I mean that is something

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I aspired too, you know,
down the road. You know, I

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love college. I hope I could
continue to put Yukon in this position moving

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forward. I don't think we're going
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I think we're gonna stay somewhat in
the area where we are. They're hard

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to do every year, but I
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someday, I just gotta kind of, you'll continue to mellow and you know,

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yeah, yeah, when he's saying
there about nobody's coaching like me,

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and I got to continue to mellow, that is him acknowledging the NBA doesn't

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have coaches that are challenging and that
are demanding and you don't have to be

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a jerk and be a dictator.
But again, a coach is a leader,

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and I feel like the way in
which he like, he's not he's

406
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.880
not He's not Tom Izzo, right, He's not somebody out there that's like

407
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.920
a drill sergeant that'll just scream in
your face and you know, treat you

408
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.319
like that. But like he's intense
and he's going to have high expectations and

409
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.680
that's probably one of the manufactors as
to why he's been so successful at Yukon

410
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.599
and doing that in the NBA now
would just be weird, Like he's just

411
00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.480
you know, I don't, but
I think I think there's there. He

412
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.559
is trying to think about how to
word it because you know, he's not

413
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.799
Urban Meyer of football. You know, he's not tom Izzo, like I

414
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:08.839
said, he's you know, he's
not John cala Perry, who, by

415
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.799
the way, is you know,
the ultimate players coach. But it'll scream

416
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.839
at you. And you don't see
NBA coaches screaming at players in the NBA

417
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:19.160
in twenty twenty four. I mean, you might find it here and there,

418
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.519
but it's it's uncommon and they're especially
you know, coaches out there screaming

419
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:27.839
at Lebron James. That's for damn
sure. So that's kind of him acknowledging

420
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.799
that he right now, like the
way he coaches is not the way the

421
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:34.119
NBA is going. But you know
who knows that, the Lakers, and

422
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.839
they still are like the Lakers are
trying to convince him, No, we

423
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.440
will let you be you and this
will work. You will be you know,

424
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.839
there aren't many, but there are
coaches, mostly Pop who's not very

425
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:52.000
good anymore, at least it's team's
not and Steve Kerr Spolstra, Like those

426
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:56.799
are the three I can think of
that for the most part, they're like

427
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.880
they're I don't want to say they're
bigger, they're bigger than anyone player because

428
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:04.359
clearly, I mean Steph Curry's a
global, global superstar and whatnot. But

429
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.880
to me, those are guys that
they get the benefit that out from the

430
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.200
NBA. They have respect because they've
coached enough great players. They've coached and

431
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:17.200
had enough success to wear You're still
gonna have the egos of the NBA players,

432
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:22.359
but overall, like they will buy
in and you know, be bossed

433
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:23.920
around essentially, I mean, that's
not what coaching is. But again,

434
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.960
you're when you're dealing with grown men
who are not you know, young kids

435
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.680
in college that are making probably more
money than you, some of them.

436
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.200
Like, it's just it's a different
world. And I can appreciate that level

437
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.480
of self awareness from Dan Hurley to
acknowledge, yeah, like they're not coaching

438
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.480
like me anymore. And again the
Lakers know that, and they're now trying

439
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.759
to convince him, No, we
can work, we will, We're gonna

440
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:51.200
support you. This will work.
Now. I'm also thinking back to the

441
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:55.319
Kentucky pursuit of Hurley. It might
have just been, look, he's never

442
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.480
leaving Yukon, but if he does, it'll be to the NBA, not

443
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:02.480
do a college job like you know
that would make it to because his level

444
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:07.880
of disinterest in Kentucky really was fascinating. And it doesn't mean Kentucky's not a

445
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.240
great job. But I don't think
this guy was interested in any college job.

446
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:12.960
Not because he thinks Kentucky sucks,
but I just think he's you know,

447
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.599
at Yukon like that. You know, remember the hole. You gotta

448
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.359
make him say no, got him? He hasn't said no. It's because

449
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.119
he's not picking up the phone,
man, he's not going anywhere. Like

450
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:23.720
you know, it's like me telling
you again, I thought it was a

451
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:30.519
really good a really good example.
Like Jennifer Aniston, who I've you know,

452
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:36.039
she's not like my all timer,
but you know, she's obviously a

453
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.160
lot better, you know, better
than anything I could do. Who do

454
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.079
you think is the most hot?
Who do you think right now is like

455
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:42.880
on top of the world as far
as the woman that people just think like

456
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.440
Margo Robbie is that her name,
that's a good Yeah, she's up there

457
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.720
for Yeah. Yeah, I'll use
her because she's you know, she's probably

458
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.240
you know, on top right now. When it comes to like a woman

459
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.160
who a lot of folks believe is
one of the most beautiful people on the

460
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.839
planet. She's never told me no. I don't know for sure that she

461
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.680
would turned down my pursuit of her
in a date or a romantic relationship.

462
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.640
I would never because you know,
she's no Tiffany Coffee. Nobody is.

463
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.599
I'm spoke, I'm spoken for.
But this is just a hypothetical situation here.

464
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.319
She'll never tell me no because she'll
never know that I exist. Obviously,

465
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.920
Danny Hurley knows that Kentucky exists.
But like, I just found that

466
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.839
to be very very arrogant and hilarious
to hear what he hasn't said no yet,

467
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.079
Like he doesn't really need to tell
you no, because he's clearly not.

468
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.079
He's not engaging in conversation. He's
he's content, which, by the

469
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.400
way, same here, Margo Robe, if you were listening, I'm not

470
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.039
interested, so we don't have to
worry about it. But I think he

471
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.720
goes to the Lakers. I really
do, I really do. All right,

472
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:41.720
let's see here, this is that
uh, this is that point where

473
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.039
we need to get a quick time
out out of the way. We're gonna

474
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:45.799
come back on the other side,
and we're gonna bring in a guest,

475
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.440
and I forgot about this. I'm
glad. I just uh just double checked

476
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.720
here to make sure we're still on. We're gonna bring in Kevin Sweeney to

477
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.440
talk about this exact, uh,
this exact situation here with Danny Hurley.

478
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.440
So Kevin Sweeny of Sports Illustrator's gonna
join us on the other side, keep

479
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.920
it locked right here on Sports Talk
seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and

480
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.720
Company rolling along here on Sports Talk
seven ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging out

481
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.839
with us on a Saturday, not
a Saturday. And when I said Saturday,

482
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.079
I'm thinking about the weekend. But
it's a Thursday and it's warm out

483
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.000
side, and I hope you guys
are enjoying your afternoon. We now bring

484
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.680
in the one, the only,
mister Kevin Sweeney, who covers college basketball

485
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.680
for Sports Illustrated. Kevin, I'll
just start with this direct question. Let's

486
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:32.119
just back up two months ago,
when Yukon was putting together, you know,

487
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.000
a championship run. If somebody mentioned
to you that Dan Hurley would would

488
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.000
have interest on his end to make
the jump to the NBA, what would

489
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:41.799
have been your reaction then, Did
you already know that he would potentially be

490
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.000
interested or were you just said no, this guy is going to stay in

491
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.519
college. Yeah. Look, it's
funny, like I think it must have

492
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.359
been like January, maybe early February
that someone that I trust to, you

493
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.079
know, knows a lot about kind
of the interworkings of the sport. You

494
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.839
know, we were texting and he
said, look, if if Dan wins

495
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.279
the title, he's going to go
try to coach the next and we kind

496
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.160
of laughed it off. It is
what it is. But like I think

497
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.440
I always believed, like, yeah, like there was another mountain to climb.

498
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.839
I think because of the way he's
wired. I mean, look,

499
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:15.599
Dan Hurley is you know, has
always been the third Hurley. He's always

500
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.599
had to try to prove something to
everyone about who he is. Now that

501
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.000
he's done it in college and he's
climbed that mountain, what is the next

502
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.759
thing. I don't think it's going
to fulfill him as you know the same

503
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.720
to come back and try to keep
doing the same thing at Yukon year after

504
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:36.880
year after year. Becoming an NBA
champion, becoming one of the greatest coaches

505
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:42.039
in basketball history, not just college
basketball, would be a very very attractive

506
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.279
thing for him. And you know, having the plumb job that is,

507
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.839
you know, the Los Angeles Lakers
certainly certainly with help in that regard.

508
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.200
For someone who has always been in
the shadow of other people in his life,

509
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.559
to be the unquestioned star not just
of college basketball, but of basketball

510
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.799
coaching as a whole, I think
is it's a pretty attractive self. As

511
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:07.759
a basketball super fan myself throughout Yukon's
you know, even when they won the

512
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.079
title in their first, you know, the first of these back to back.

513
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.880
It's super impressive. But this past
year I really found myself just not

514
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:16.359
a Yukon fan by any means.
I don't root for them. I don't

515
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.400
really have much of a preference.
But I'm so impressed with everything about Danny

516
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:24.240
Hurley. I think what he's implemented
there is not dependent upon generational talent that

517
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.960
you only get every now and then. I think he's identified the type of

518
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.839
guys that fit his DNA and the
way he wants to coach. And I

519
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.720
think, you know right now,
it's hard to win at the high level.

520
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.480
I mean, look, will he
win three in a row if he's

521
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:37.440
back? Who knows? But I
also don't. I can't tell you that.

522
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.200
I think they're going to slow down. I think it's sustainable, which

523
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.920
is a scary thing for everybody else. But he's already won two and I

524
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.480
don't he has nothing else left to
prove at the college level. And the

525
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.559
Lakers job is I mean, you
could make the case it's the best job

526
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.440
in basketball at any level. However, coaching Lebron James is probably not something

527
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.799
that I would imagine a lot of
coaches would be really eager to do just

528
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.839
especially given the situation where he's he's
getting older and his son is apparently gonna

529
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:08.320
be joining him in LA at least
that's what a lot of people think.

530
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:12.000
So, knowing what you know about
coach Hurley, how do you see that

531
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.280
dynamic with Lebron? Because Lebron can
play the well, hey, you guys

532
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.440
make the higher that's best long term, you know, don't worry about me

533
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.519
is if Lebron doesn't get in the
middle of everything with every team he plays

534
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:23.360
for. But I don't know.
I could to me that that's the most

535
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:28.360
fascinating thing is Dan Hurley the way
he coaches, coaching Lebron and potentially his

536
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.440
son who may be on the team
as well. Yeah, one hundred percent

537
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:37.079
right. His personality is not something
that is a standard in the NBA by

538
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.400
any means that it's much more laid
back lifestyle. He will have to adapt.

539
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.559
I do think that the cell is, Look, yes you get to

540
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.559
coach Lebron, and yes you get
to go make a run at a championship

541
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.079
here for the next probably two years, right, I think realistically Lebron has

542
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.280
two more years of being a guy
who can anchor a team that goes to

543
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:59.559
the playoffs and potentially contends to the
Western Conference. You know, come in,

544
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.519
be a part of that experience,
get the coach Lebron, and then

545
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.519
get to put your stamp on the
organization long term, right Like any contract

546
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:12.920
that woos Dan Hurley to the Lakers
will be I imagine at least six and

547
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.400
maybe as high as eight to ten
years. And the sales pitch, if

548
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:21.239
you listen to some of the report
reporting from WOEJ to ESPN, has been

549
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.519
like, we want a program,
we want a culture, we want we

550
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:29.599
want a system at with the Lakers, similar to what he built a Ukon.

551
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.880
I think the comparison I would make
is to to what the Heat it

552
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.400
built with pat Riley and eRx Bolster
of like, hey, yes, like

553
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.400
players are gonna come and go,
but like there is an identity to our

554
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:44.320
teams. There is a cult culture
of work ethic and accountability that you know

555
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:49.079
makes the Heat not for everyone,
but it's an attractive place for free agents

556
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.280
to come. And I say,
it's an organization that will always win regardless

557
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.440
of who is in that organization from
a personnel standpoint, And I think that's

558
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.320
the sales pitch with with Hurley is
come in and try to build something like

559
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:06.280
what the Heat has built with Spolstra
in the biggest, you know, market

560
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.679
in basketball, one of the biggest
places to attract free agents. Like they're

561
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.679
gonna have talents. Now it's up
to you to kind of mold it into

562
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.599
your image. Yeah. I actually, of all the different clips I've heard

563
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.960
throughout the day that are interviews previously
of Hurley where he has in fact mentioned

564
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.519
that the NBA is something he'd be
interested in, it was with part of

565
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.639
my take, which those guys obviously
do a great job. They have a

566
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.119
super popular podcast, but obviously more
of that is entertainment than anything else.

567
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.880
But Dan Hurley his answer about the
NBA was you know, pretty and he

568
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.280
was pretty understandable. You know,
he knows that right now, the way

569
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.400
he coaches at Yukon is just not
what you typically see in the NBA.

570
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:44.360
But I feel like the Lakers know
that he probably has those understandable concerns and

571
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:45.719
they're selling him, No, you
can this will be you know, this

572
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.840
obviously will be something we're going to
give you. You know, as you

573
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.920
mentioned, potentially eight ten years and
this is going to be a longevity thing,

574
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.320
and I think, you know,
I you know, I'm an NBA

575
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.559
fan myself. I love college basketball
more, but I like it when you

576
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.760
have coaches that are at a place
for a long time and they're not viewed

577
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.920
as just super expendable. So in
a weird way, I'm kind of hoping

578
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.320
that he does go to LA because
I want to see how it works.

579
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.079
But also I would be bummed to
see one of these potential greats who you

580
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.639
could say he's already a great,
not potentially because he's won back to back

581
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.920
titles. But I guess I'll move
to this if in fact he does go.

582
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.719
What happens with Yukon. Obviously timing
is not great, but it's a

583
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.719
great job that maybe if somebody did
bail, it wouldn't be a big surprise.

584
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:27.199
But what would you what would you
say yukon first move would be if

585
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.719
they lose Dan Hurley. I think
that the most likely upcome would be an

586
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:37.159
internal hire Luke Murray, right,
I actually think it would be Kamani Young

587
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.079
Okay, who's the coach? Luke
would be in the conversation. I think

588
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.760
if if Luke is not the head
coach at Yukon, I imagine he will

589
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.760
go join Dan at the Lakers.
I think a lot of people are who

590
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.800
Luke thinks that Luke is maybe more
wired to be an NBA coach than a

591
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.000
college coach. Uh, and he
could have a pretty clear path to being

592
00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:00.360
an NBA head coach and not just
makes sense. So I do think it

593
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.920
would be one of those two.
You know, obviously there's some guys you

594
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.840
can kick this hires on, but
it's June, uh and Yukon for all

595
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.679
the championships and all the success,
Like, the fundamentals of that job are

596
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:15.599
probably not you know, the type
of things that attracts a huge name,

597
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.199
right, It's it's it's in stores, it's kind of in the middle of

598
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.320
nowhere. Uh, there isn't football
money flowing like they're not on ESPN ever.

599
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.159
Yeah, Like, I think it's
a harder sell, right, And

600
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.760
if Kentucky can't pull, you know, a massive name, and Louisville can't

601
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.920
pull a massive name, like,
I'm not I'm not convinced necessarily that Yukon

602
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.440
is going to especially in June.
So I think it's an internal thing more

603
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.159
than likely. But look, Yukon's
found ways. Yukon's had three straight coaches

604
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.679
with the national championship there like that's
the standards for some, but it is

605
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.480
also an opportunity that I think we'll
certainly cause a lot of interest. I

606
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.679
know you can't speak for him,
but what do you make of your boy

607
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Goodman throwing out Bruce Pearl. I
found that to be insanely random, Kevin.

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Look, I think Bruce has been
always kind of known as like one

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of the really really good coaches who
is willing to explore outside of the situation.

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His biot's more manageable. He has
ties to the Northeast. As Goodman

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said, the personality fit is certainly
there. Look, I think more likely

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than not anything Bruce does with the
Yukon job would be a leverage play.

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He wants his son, Steven,
who's on staff right now at Auburn,

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to be named head coach in waiting
so that when Bruce retires, which I

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know some people believe will happen in
the next really two to four years,

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that Steven is the head coach at
Auburn. Obviously, it's great for an

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ad to say that that will be
the case. It's another to put it

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in writing. I think that that
writing portion is really what Bruce wants,

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and I'd be a little surprised if
it's anything more than a leverage move by

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him if the search comes to that. Yeah, and no offense to Steven.

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I don't know much about him other
than when he played for his father

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at Tennessee and I always been on
staff with him at Auburn since. But

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like that, like, why would
Auburn do that? I mean, I

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guess just because they don't want to
lose him, right. They love Bruce

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obviously, Stephen is is is a
really good young coach. Houston is in

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a some more situation with with Kell
and Sampson. Now, in a lot

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of cases, like the contracts that
these quote unquote coaching waiting deals are aren't

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so stringent that you couldn't get out
of it if you wanted to. Like

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if Auburn gave Stephen Pearl head coach
in waiting and gave him a million dollar

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buyout, it wouldn't really be hard
for Auburn to go get a million dollars

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together and go hire you know,
big name X, Y or Z.

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If you know Bruce goes down that
route, it's more of a it's more

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of a statement of confidence. And
also obviously boosts the stock of those guys

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in the market, right Like Kellen
Sampson doesn't have to listen to you know,

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non Power five head coaching jobs right
now because he could say, I

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have you know the bird in the
hand right now? If Houston, I

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think the same thing would go with
Stephen all right. So I happen to

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think that the way this has played
out as far as the timing, how

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the story broke this morning with WOJ, I guess he hasn't made a decision

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yet, but I think it'd be
I'd be surprised if Dan Hurley doesn't end

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up taking the Lakers up on their
offer. What say you, what do

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you think ends up happening here?
Yeah, as of now, I would

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lean the same way. I don't
think this gets out if at least Dan

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Hurley doesn't intend on taking this to
the wire and making that decision. I

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think anything can happen once it's in
the public eye. I do think it

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will happen relatively quickly either way.
Like I know a lot of people said,

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oh, it'll take through the weekend
or whatever. Like I'd personally be

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a little surprised if it makes it
past tomorrow, Like I think I think

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there will be a decision either way
made by Friday. And because it's not

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about the money, right This isn't
a leverage play, This is not what

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you can combat with, right Like, like Yukon could offer him like a

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portion of the state GDP, and
I don't think it would change his mind

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if he wants to go to the
Lakers, right like, it's it's about

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the basketball decision, and it's a
it's a professional decision for Dan and he's

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got to make the choice. I
just think it'll come quote quickly though.

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Once once the news is out,
it's hard to sit on it, no

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doubt, Kevin, you are the
man. I appreciate you making time for

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us. I would say enjoy the
offseason, but I feel like you haven't

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had much time to really relax.
There's been no games for a while,

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but college basketball has certainly been very, very active with the portal and everything

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else. So keep up the great
work, brother. Always a pleasure to

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talk to you, my man.
Hey, good to talk ball in June

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sixth, that's a I'll say,
that's right. Kevin Sweety's our guest here.

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Sports Illustrated does a great job following
him. If you guys aren't already

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00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.840
following him on Twitter. He's at
CBB Underscore Central. All right, quick

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break, we'll come back five o'clock
hours next right here, on Sports Talk seven ninety