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You're listening to the Downbeat on ninety
seven to one the Freak. Thirty minutes,

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we'll get to sports. Do you
guys like sports? Sometimes? Right?

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Sports gonna be fun. MAVs had
the Blazers last night at the Blazers

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tomorrow night too, but it was
a costly win. We'll tell you why.

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Chance for you to win pair of
mav tickets at eight o'clock. If

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you can pass the test, you
will tell us your area of expertise,

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will challenged you on that the tribute
to Rob Lowe's The Floor on Fox.

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Have a scuttle Buck coming for you
seven point thirty, which includes why in

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the world were people hanging out outside
of a Walmart at three am? A

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really stupid reason. I'll tell you
why, tease Hall of Famer Drew Pierson.

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Nine o'clock. Hu hut? What
more? Do you want some sex?

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Do you want some sex? Though
not right now? When would you

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like some sex? Kevin? I
think like at the afterlife? That's your

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plan. You can be banging in
the afterlife, Kevin. Well, you'd

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have some clarity of what the afterlife
is. Would you not fear death as

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much? If you're like, hey, man, it'll be a buttload of

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sex. I mean yes, I
mean something to look forward to, because

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now, unless you're super devout,
the afterlife looks a little bleak unless you're

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very devout. Fortunately I am.
He's dead out and he's got gout.

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He doesn't have a doubt the good
thing. We're only eighteen seconds into this

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segment. Save it in the next
two most important thing in the world.

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Save it with sorry. I think
I started the second with do you guys

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like sports? That's a pretty good
hook, is it. I don't know.

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It's not wake. I think it's
objected. I think one person would

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say the next person would say,
it's time to get your stupid ass out

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of play that game the most until
we die. Yeah, nothing bad could

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happen. The section heaven is an
interesting Talvin or hell? I mean,

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is there section hell? Lil laws
X proved that there is that one video,

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then Dave Chappelle made a joke about
him. The Dreamer by Dave Chappelle.

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It's worth the watch. I'd say
he kind of doesn't miss pretty good.

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He waited on the Chris Rock Will
Smith things pretty funny and getting attacked

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on stage. Give it Give it
a watch on Netflix It is weird too,

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because I went to that Chappelle show
at the AAC and I had press

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play on the Netflix thing and it
starts he has, oh something else,

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But then I could see where he
started in on the same stuff that I'd

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already seen. Yeah, kind of
neat. I stopped watching it. Oh,

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okay, I've already seen this one. Well, I don't know,

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it was late and whatever. Yeah, I've seen. It's kind of neat.

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I need to watch the Ralph Barbosa
one where he was at the Kessler

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here in town that you and Christina
were at, featuring me and Christina.

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You were on so much Netflix last
year. You and Christina were on Netflix

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Full Swing Golf. We were on
full swing, and you were in the

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Ralph Barbosa stand up special. Yep, your Doctor, Netflix, Yelp.

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I'll wait by my mailbox for my
residual check check. I think they were

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sent to Christina's address. That's fine. Hundreds of court documents were released last

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night, and I believe we have
a classic case of the sizzle being a

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little more than the steak, because
I don't know if Aaron Rodgers was popping

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a bottle of wine or Scotch last
night, like you said he was gonna

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be as he was highly anticipating these
documents. Most of the documents that were

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made public last night do not include
specific episodes of wrongdoing by men other than

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Jeffrey Epstein. Now there's more to
come, the more goad that will be

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coming out. But one document was
from a deposition of an alleged victim.

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Her name is Johanna Silberg, and
she said quote, he said one time

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that Clinton likes him young. And
she also said that while flying with Epstein,

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they made an unplanned stop in Atlantic
City, where Epstein said, quote,

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let's call Trump, suggesting that they
go visit Trump's casino. And that's

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all. She just asked for Prince
Andrew, She testified. When she first

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introduced him, he put his hand
on her breast. Okay, I know,

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I laughed a little bit because it's
not very funny. Sexual assault not

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funny at all. Clearly so it's
not very But what a weird way to

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meet someone. Hey, nice to
meet you. Instead of handshake, you

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go for the double hawk. I
guess if you're a prince though, you

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feel like you can get away with
anything. And maybe that's the problem.

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The power dynamic but that was in
the docks. Now, bad news Mikey

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because there are a couple other names. Oh, I know the one I

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know, the biggest name involved in
this, Bob Greasy. The details are

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not Scroll all the way down to
see if Bob Greasey was the last name

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mentioned. Yeah, that's that's insane. Jim Kicks multiple visits to the island.

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Michael Jackson on the list. But
the one that really we're gonna get

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to Mike is famous magician, magician
David coppa feel he's more of an illusionist,

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right, that's wise of you don't
call him David copper Field. Well

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that's what he is now allegedly the
alliance of magicians that I'm in, we

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don't know how to handle this.
Why would David Copperfield pop up? Now?

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One thing that is interesting with David
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Bahamian islands, Moushu K. It's
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the world, owned by damn David
Copperfield. So I'd like to think he's

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down there just doing island research,
you know, Caribbean tips. But I

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can't speak his sense of David Copperfield
today this girl. You mentioned all these

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names. It's like they're not found
guilty, they're just listed in association with.

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Right. We said that yesterday.
Like I was sitting there going like,

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for instance, here at I Heearten
a few years ago, and I

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would not do this. Well,
I was saying, no good. Yeah,

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and I associated with a guy who
worked up here years ago on another

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show who got popped for child molestation. And I was like, man,

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saw, I'm in the office every
day, and I just said, it

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is it ikey feeling feeling like you
know, right, But if there are

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records that you guys were hanging out
on dozens of occasions and flying together something,

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that's a different thing. Just because
you receive a paycheck from the same

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company that something happened to somebody Elseah, that's not the enough association. So

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she claimed that Copperfield was president at
dinner at Epstein's home, where he allegedly

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quote did some magic tricks. What
do you think he is? Rab It

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out of the hat, don't disparage
the dark hearts that I love. And

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Rabbit out of hat's awesome too.
I don't care if it's a punchline.

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You never see that anymore. Really, you sometimes do you see variations of

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it? They try to elevate the
rabbit. Yeah, and then it's like,

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oh, why sir, why don't
you lift your hat up and the

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rabbits in your hat? Right?
So, yeah, and you weren't even

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wearing a hat when you entered the
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hat comes from, the rabbit,
put it on. The rabbit hopped up

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there, and you didn't know.
She was asked if Copperfield ever discussed Epstein's

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involvement with young girls with her.
She said, he questioned me if I

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was aware that girls were getting paid
to find other girls? That's all?

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So he was at least like,
what's going on here? It almost sounds

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like Copperfield was kind of like,
look, I'll take the money and I'll

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do the magic trick. You all
got something weird going on here, And

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I bet that's the case for most
people. It sounds to me like this

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Epstein Feller was a social climber,
that his wealth wasn't necessarily his that he

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got who's the guy the one of
the sim figures in this that's connected with

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him, the last named Wexler.
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somehow Epstein got power of attorney over
his estate and was essentially just bleeding his

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finances. Like that that legendary spot
that he lived in in Manhattan wasn't even

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it wasn't even Epstein's. It was
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known I think, like in two
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of a grifter in his you know, relatively speaking, but he wasn't this

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self made. You know, he
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about airs and images and all that
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You know that you you know that
you you don't know a lot about

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this guy. You you see that
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you know, got access to all
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It's like, yeah, I'll go
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you kind of get the curtain pulled
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sounds like Copperfield is doing, He's
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Dude? Well, I really I
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Copperfields a weird dude. Yeah,
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I'm not labeling any of these people, but sorry, you guys all just

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showed up on Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. He had a sexual assault thing with

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a seventeen year old back in the
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point is is because of his personality
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climber, that it would attract I
do that that are just completely unknowing of

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the deep underbelly. So even these
names come out, it's not a conviction

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that they did bad things. I
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And that's kind of what I was
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laying around thinking about it, and
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know, because yes, he's this
financier, and find billionaires hang out with

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billionaires, do cool s together,
like fine, But this dude was like

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had harems of most many underage girls
like that was part of the allure of

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what he provides why you do hang
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about incredibly wealthy, very popular,
old white dudes who are clinging to their

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youth and whatever this madness is.
And that turns you into somebody over time

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when you're giving all this power and
yes, presidents and magicians, yes,

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and when you run Vegas for fifty
years or whatever David Copperfield has. He's

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sixty seven years old, and he
looks like he's had all the work in

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the world done. I mean,
there's types of people like that. And

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then you say on the menu is
whatever, and we and it's in this

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private no one will ever know.
You know, we're on an island in

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the middle of nowhere. And I'm
supposed to think that's where you're like,

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of all the shady s you've got
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where you are, that that's where
hopefully you would draw the line and say

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no, after you've had a couple
of Pappy Van Winkles that are five hundred

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dollars a glass, you know,
and then hey, I want to see

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the you want to see the dungeon
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don't know. I don't And then
that's where your morality kicks in, like,

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Yo, what's wait, what's really
going on here? Fly me home?

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I hope so, but I don't
know another name this, And then

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you go back and you go back
again, you go back a bunch of

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more to repeat visits that. Yeah, it's people I don't want to I'm

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not labeling everyone on this list,
you know, but every single one.

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When you look at this, like
person X claims no wrongdoing. Dershowitz complained

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because it says no, there's no
wrongdoing. So no, everybody's no wrongdoing

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except for that dude. Well it's
not great for Copperfields. He was alleged

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pulling a Cosby on a girl back
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was part of a magic trick.
Yeah, I get sought and a half.

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This girl from this deposition or a
woman of this deposition, also said

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that she met She was asked,
did you ever meet anyone anybody else famous

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when you're with Jeffrey? She said, I met Michael Jackson at Epstein's house

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in Palm Beach. She was asked
if she ever massage Michael Jackson. She

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replied that she did not. But
Michael Jackson now thrown into the list who

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had previously not been thrown into any
Epstein at least not that I had ever

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seen. And you know, we've
seen the allegations with him and child sex

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abuse. So oh other ones.
Though the Clinton thing, I told you,

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now here's the thing. All these
people said, no, we're not

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going to we didn't know about his
abusive behavior with teenage girls or young women.

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We didn't know that. Bill Clinton
had a statement in twenty nineteen said

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he knew nothing about Epstein's terrible crimes
even though he was a registered sex offender.

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In the mid two thousands, Trump
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Epstein years ago and said, not
a fan. Look that's what he said.

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Yeah, Well after he had said, okay, look, Bill Clinton

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like what do you no? Yeah, right, come on, yeah,

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what do you think? Yeah?
Okay. And so if you would say,

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Donald Trump, what do you think
if your if your reputation precedes you,

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it does make it a little The
light doesn't shine favorably upon you if

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you're named in that scenario presented out
so long ago, that Bill Clinton or

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Donald Trump and grant Donald Trump doesn't
drink famously, So get the Pappy van

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Winkle out of there. But Bill
Clinton's gonna that's where no, no,

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yeah, And then I'm sorry.
But this quote that Trump said about Epstein,

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right, it's from two thousand and
two. I've known Jeff for fifteen

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years. Terrific guy. He's a
lot of fun to be with. It's

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even said he likes beautiful women as
much as I do. And many of

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them are on the younger side.
So I don't forget your political whatever.

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Read that quote and be like,
that's the dude who we're going to say.

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No, he's the one who said
no, not interested. Many,

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you know, many are on the
younger side. And then that's a New

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York magazine. But you also have
to factor in the not to defend any

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of these people, but younger in
relation to what their age. Yeah,

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okay, like twenty six, twenty
one, eighteen. I don't know.

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I don't know what it's undefined,
what younger means younger than them or are

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we talking about illegally young That's what
I'm saying. It's like, there's no

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I'm not saying that the quote is
a direct indictment, but I think when

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you say beautiful women, most fifty
something year old billionaires talking about girls in

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their twenties, he's a nasty bit
early twenties even. Yeah. So then

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when you add the caveat many of
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you're running out a wiggle room for
it to be legal. It's dude,

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it's a horrible look. But I
don't know if we're ever going to see

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a defined, clear path to any
of these people that are on this list,

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to a clear path to judgment,
you know, to real honest judgment.

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What's the girl's name? Who was
one of the girls, Joanna Soberg?

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Yeah, okay? How many of
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are talking and saying names and describing
Right now, two depositions are public.

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There is one that's probably not going
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know, young at the time,
and the allegations are pretty bad, and

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the judges said her privacy supersedes the
need to get this out into the public.

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Now. There are plenty others though, but she had and Jane does.

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They're calling them okay, but some
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than what we've seen about specific people
and the interactions these people had with them

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when they were under eight. My
understanding is that's coming, like there are

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more of these interviews that they're gonna
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next could be today and that's when
things will start to clarify on you did

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what? Now if many of these
girls say, David Copperfield, for instances,

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I just want at random to just
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bunch of times this nice guy did
amazing magic tricks, never had any interaction

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with them, you know other than
that, what about that might lead toward

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absolving some of the names. But
this is just step one. So fine,

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if you're in the the Nasty House, that's the first thing we need

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to prove, and then what happened
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faber is Isn't it all just based
on on testimony at that point? Wasn't

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there like a treasure trove of was
it all this stuff filmed like notoriously?

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Wasn't Epstein and and Gallaine like Maxwell? Yeah, wasn't there like some type

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of surveillance videos that were that were
kept like a library of this stuff of

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these people right and right compromise?
Where are those? Because I think that's

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what it's going to take for a
lot of folks to even and gosh,

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there there there are people that will
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year old girl and going, nah, that's not real, that's a that's

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photoshop. Whatever. It is a
different time, it's a yeah whatever.

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But I think we live in a
world where it's just the the testimony is

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not going to be enough. Check
this out. Epstein emailed Maxwell to deny

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claims that Stephen Hawking participated in an
underage Georgie okay, joints. I did

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see everyone rushing to every That's the
wheelchair meme I've ever seen on the internet.

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That's the funny one. That's the
funny one. To me repeat that.

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So, he had emailed Glenn Maxwell
basically saying, give money to in

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the voice, dude, your Stephen
Hawking voice as you was old? Okay,

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well and under age RG okay?
So who minus eighteen is seventy two?

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So is there really an email train
of Stephen Hawking? Yeah, requesting

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an say under age orgy? Yeah
requesting? What? So here's what the

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email Epstein said to Maxwell said,
you can issue a reward to any of

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Virginia's friends. Virginia was another one
of the the yeah girls. I was

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talking friends, acquaints, family that
come forward and prove her allegations are false.

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The strongest is the Clinton Dinner and
the new version of the Orgin Islands

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that Stephen Hawking participated in an underage
orgy. He died in twenty eighteen at

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seven, age seventy six. Stephen
Hawking did don't goodbyee turning out to you.

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Yeah, how would that even work? It's tough to really picture.

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But smart man, you're in with
with Epstein. The girls do what they

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are told to do because hey,
they're paid to do it and they work

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there. I don't know, man. Al Gore's name get thrown in there,

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Kevin Spacey get thrown in there was
a few their names. Yeah,

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imagine that, right, it's a
al Gore one shocking. Al Gore always

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seemed like a bit of a virgin
to me. Yeah, a dead fish

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or or maybe I mean, who
knows it? The others. The way

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al Gore talked was just so funny. I don't know why. So there's

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that. To have time for birthdays
we want, we'll have more of the

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anything breaks on the Epstein stuff today. That's gonna be topic de jour.

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It's the most Kevin Well. We
don't miss on that. Yesterday it was

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the floor four. Today the Epstein
list, and there's a little more.

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Maybe we'll get to that at eight
o'clock when you have a chance to win

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MAVs tickets. All right, so
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eight seven one nine seven one before
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there. We'll see if you get
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