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one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards
for his broadcast episodes, the one and

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only Bill Cunningham. All Right,
Billy cunning Ahead, the Great American.

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My glory be yours. Thank you
for listening. This Sunday night scheduled again.

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I think a great provocative radio talk
show under the leadership of Danny boyd

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Any Boy to any Boy. Gleason, my producer coming up later will be

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one of the most influential Congressman in
the Congress presently as leaving after about twelve

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years of service. He announced it
on Thursday. Congressman brad Winstrip of the

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great State of Ohio. Might had
a personal friend of mine who ran for

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the office and won about twelve years
ago. And it was determined by him

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that he's got two children under the
age of ten, and that he's a

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pedietriss. He's a doctor. Retired
from the military about six months ago with

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the rank of colonel. So he's
spent twenty five years in the military.

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Was it Abu Grob treating many individuals
that were hurt. And he married somewhat

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later in life. And he said, you know what, when the kids

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were not in school, he was
able to take them with them driving from

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southern Ohio to Washington back and forth. Has a nice home there. But

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nonetheless, when they go into school, a father wants to spend time with

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his daughter and with his son,
they want to spend time together. He

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wants to go to parent teacher conferences. He wanted to go to their soccer

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and other games. And he was
working about seven and eighty hours a week.

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He was picked by politico dot com
as one of the top ten US

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Congressmen for effectiveness that people pay attention
to him. He's on the Ways and

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Means Committee on the Intelligence Committee.
He's also chair of the COVID nineteen Origin

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Subcommittee, and he's co chair of
the Doctor's Committee in the US House of

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Representatives. And he works about seventy
to eighty hours a week. And he

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said, you know what, I
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I want to watch a soccer game, and I get it I understand it

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completely. So he's coming up later
to talk about that. Also later on

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will be one of my favorite Congressman, Thomas Massey of Kentucky. He voted

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against. He was the only Republican
that voted against the resolution that involved four

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and a to Israel. We're going
to ask him why. I think I

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know the answer, which is he's
voted against foreign aid for the last twelve

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years he's been in the Congress.
He votes against it every time, no

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matter what it is, because he
said, we can't afford it. We

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have needs here. What a refreshing
idea. Coming up later and also later

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on will be David Johnson, author
of The Diversity con which the billions of

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dollars and I read his book and
I didn't didn't know this, But let's

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say your Walmart or your Target or
your best Buy, one of the big

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ones multinational. Every day, every
month of every year, there are pitches

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made to Walmart in Bentonville, Arkansas
from small supplier, small manufacturing concerns who

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go in there to try to get
stock space for their product at Walmart,

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which can be a life changer.
And so Walmart and Target and best Buy

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and all the rest have, in
a sense good housekeeping seal of approofd that

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you have to participate in DEI diversity
equity and inclusion programs in your small company

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to be a favored supplier. So
it's made clear in the beginning that you

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have to have coursework for your employees
to take preaching the gospel of diversity,

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equity and inclusion. It's not they
demand equal outcomes. They want to know

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how many of your employees are gay, how many are LGBTQ plus plus plus,

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how many are persons of color,
how many are disabled, how many

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are male, how many are female, how many of the origins, et

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cetera, et cetera, in order
to do business with multinationals. I had

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no idea it was that bad.
But you and I are going to spend

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time with David Johnson and Dennis Prager, who's fabulous wrote the forward to his

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book The Diversity con and one of
the questions is can a six month old

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baby be racist? Here's yes,
living in this culture hated by the radical

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left and by many Democrats. Yes. And also later on as Carrie Sloan,

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she is the executive director of Crime
Research Center run by John Lott,

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to talk about how in these difficult
days it is almost critical, critical,

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not especially women guard and protect themselves
because cops will not be there. But

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before we go much further, it
was announced earlier today that the Republican field

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has down. Senator Tim Scott went
on the Fox News about two hours ago

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and said he's dropping out. Did
a show with Trey Gowdi. And one

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has been a US Congressman from South
Carolina, Trey Gowdy. And of course

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Senator Scott's been a senator for about
ten years, has no plans to endorse

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anyone else. And so now it's
going to come down to Ron De Santis

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and Haley still in it, Chris
Christi is in it for reasons unclear to

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me completely and of course to Donald
who's going to be the nominee of the

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Republican Party. And so we'll see
what happens down the road. But one

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more is gone out of the Republican
field. So as we talked tonight,

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there was a report out of the
BBC that the Israeli Army provided for the

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generation of power in some of these
Gaza hospitals, hundreds of gallons of fuel

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that after they were dropped off,
they were in the smaller containers. They

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were about twenty five gallons. The
Hamas radicals murderers came and took the fuel

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and whatever's left off of the hospitals
to help the gaz of people, especially

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those who are mortally wounded us that
shields by Hamas, they steal the product,

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which is what they've done for the
past eighteen years. That is the

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hundreds of millions of dollars given to
Gaza and the so called the plo It

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has been stolen by a moss and
used to build three to five hundred miles

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of steel reinforced tunnels, to buy
guns, to buy holwarzers, to buy

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missiles, to buy artillery shells,
to spread a gospel of hate. And

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so that's not well covered by the
mainstream media because it doesn't fit everything that

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fits they promote. If it doesn't
fit the media diet tribe, they don't

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promote it. And so I'm going
to share my thoughts with Congressman Winstrup in

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about an hour or so. But
as a young man in college nineteen sixty

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eight, I thought the country was
going through a second American Revolution. We

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had been in the Vietnam War actively
for about six or seven years, They

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were about, I don't know,
two or three thousand every month killed in

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and around Danang and South Vietnam.
Body bags were everywhere. College campuses regularly

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erupted, administration buildings were taken over. Kent State was about to occur.

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Sixty eight, you had the terrible
assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy and Martin

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Luther King Junior. Riots broke out
once again in every major American city.

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Cops are being killed. The Democratic
Convention took place in August and Chicago,

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much like this year, riots occurring. I thought I was a young man,

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like twenty years old, but I
said, are you kidding me?

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I'm living through an American revolution.
And the little city of Cincinnati we had

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riots, of course. And at
that point I was a sophomore at Xavier

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University and I was the resident manager
of a small apartment building in which Xavier

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students lived, and I was a
resident manager. I get a call as

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the riots are ongoing and Xavier is
not in the best part of town,

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and he said to me, Bill, can you go out on the front

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lawn, which was about twenty by
thirty feet. I know you have a

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twelve gate shotgun and sit there and
dissuade individuals from fire bombing my apartment building

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that you live in. So I
said, yes, sir, I'll do

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that. So I put in my
hands a twelve gate shotgun with two shelves,

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got a little bit of a lounge
chair, went out on the lawn

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about twenty feet from the sidewalk,
and you could hear gunfire. Looking about

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a mile to my left, I
could see the fires burning in parts of

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Cincinnati. All hell was breaking loose, and at some point a police officer,

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Cincinnati cop pulled up on Dana Avenue, put on his lights and looked

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at me. I was like twenty
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And looked at me and said,
young man, what the hell are you

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doing. I said, well,
Sarah, I'm the resident manager of the

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apartment building, and the guy the
owns that wants me to sit here to

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guard the building. He looks at
me and says, get your ass back

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in your apartment, lock the doors. If they see you there, you'll

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be fresh meat. Get the hell
out. So I said, yes,

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sir. So I went back into
my apartment, called the owner, told

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him what he said. He said, well, just guard it the best

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you can There were riots everywhere every
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seven, sixty eight, sixty nine, seventy seventy one, nineteen seventy two,

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nineteen seventy three, assassinations, Vietnam
War fifty eight thousand killed, some

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say murdered. Lost that war,
of course, two hundred and fifty thousand

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wounded, three hundred thousand Vietnamese killed. And then we had the impeachment of

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Richard Nixon, who didn't fit in
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He'd won forty nine to fifty states
in nineteen seventy two, and within two

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years he's out of office. I
thought, my God, were coming apart.

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This is a revolution here I am
in twenty three about seventy seven percent

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of the American people say we're on
the wrong track. Things are bad,

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Something fundamentally is not working in this
country. I look now at riots,

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Look at that George Floyd, opportunistic
street criminals who torched many parts of many

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major American cities, billions of dollars
in damages. Dozens are killed, a

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couple dozen cops are killed, shots
are fired every which way, breakdown of

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law and order, defund the police, Black Lives Matter, et cetera.

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Here we go fleecing the public for
literally millions of dollars, and now we

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have a completely not only corrupt,
but someone who is feeble and almost insane

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running the presidency. It's going to
come out the next few months that we

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have the most corrupt president in American
history. That makes Richard Nixon look like

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a boy scout. This is unbelievable, the stuff that Joe Biden, Jim

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Biden, Hunter, Joe Biden and
all the Bidens have monetized political office for

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a long time. I'm watching.
I can't believe what's going on again,

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and now because of the anti Semitism
present and now revealed in every major American

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city, including my little Cincinnati,
Ohio, where the University of Cincinnati has

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an Hamas chapter at UC. I
look at what's happening in Columbia, New

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York, Chicago, what's happening in
Austin, what's happening in Los Angeles and

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Portland? Complete meltdown. The cities
are in utter collapse, don't function.

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I'm looking at a story here on
the Drudge Report about what's happening with the

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so called Venezuelans and others that show
up in Chicago. In Chicago's the weather's

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getting a bit, shall we say, a bit a bit cold. The

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illegal immigrants are saying Chicago is so
unpleasant, we want to go back home.

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Fly us out him. They can't
take living in Chicago as an immigrant

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from El Salvador or from Venezuela.
In fact, Chicago has a much higher

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murder rate than any of Central American
cities. Shots fired, Are you kidding

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me? I would say there's more
than one hundred thousand shots fired in the

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city of Chicago every year. And
in the city of Cincinnati there's about four

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hundred people wounded every year and about
eighty to ninety murdered. The number in

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Chicago is off the charts. Can't
live at legal immigrants. Legal immigrants say

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we're out. Moody's cuts the outlook
on US credit rating to negative. Our

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bonds are in credit watch Thursday or
Friday. They try to sell forty eight

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billion dollars in thirty year bonds.
There weren't enough buyers, so they took

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them, took them down for a
while. It's unbelievable what's happening in America

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and the words of Abraham Lincoln come
back to me. We are a nation

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committing suicide. No foreign power could
ever militarily, maybe economically, because of

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what we've done on debt to overtake
the United States. George Washington said at

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some point that we choose to follow
the divine author of our blessed religion.

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We are the salt of the earth
and the light of the world. If

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each of us, in our own
place choose to do that which is right,

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we begin to change history. Are
we doing what's right on the debt,

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on the southern border? Are we
doing what's right on college campuses?

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How about public education? How about
black lives? How about public education?

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How about a corrupt welfare system?
How about the fact that California is uninhabitable,

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and the fact that Portland and Austin
and Seattle or are in complete collapse.

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Everywhere I look, I see disasters. And as Abraham Lincoln said,

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quote, no foreign nation can ever
take a step on the Blue Ridge Mountains,

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or take a drink from the Ohio
River, or visit the Shenandoah Valley

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in a contest of a thousand years. Unless we let them do it.

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A free nation will live forever free
or we will die by suicide. Quote

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unquote, seventy seven percent of us
say we have bad vision of the future.

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We're on the wrong track. And
I'm looking at this and I'm going,

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how in the hell did we get
in this position because of corrupt,

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terrible, awful political leadership. The
worst we've ever had is God's attention diverted

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somewhere else Where is Washington and Jefferson
and Lincoln? Where is Ronald Reagan?

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Where are the great leaders to lead
us out of difficult circumstances that don't exist?

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It is unbelievable how Americans have worked
theirselves in the position. And good

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politicians like brad Winstrop says, well, you know what, I'm going home.

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We're going to ask him why in
about forty minutes. But one of

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the best congressmen in Washington, picked
by Politico and the top ten chair of

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this and chair of that, well
respected doctor, a colonel. But he

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said, I've done enough. I've
got to go home. The good ones

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leave, and the bad ones Nancy
Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc. They

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stay and make it a career,
make it a life, and Fetterman,

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It's unbelievable how incompetent. The leadership
of this country is how terrible. The

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public schools no respect for law enforcement. The majority of young Americans will not

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join the military. Only nine percent
of college kids support Israel's right to exist,

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the great majority. When all the
Jews killed, are you kidding me?

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The answer is no, My God, are we in trouble? Well,

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let's continue when we do. Number
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four, seven, seven three three
seven have JD and call from Tampa

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and Virginia many other places. And
killing unborn, healthy babies causes great celebration

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in Columbus, Ohio. When here
in Ohio that issue one past tears of

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joy, Champagne. We're gonna be
able to kill more healthy unborn babies.

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Yay, that sounds great. Bill
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You know, my boss is an
old Jewish carpenter and the default physician

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tended to be blame the Jews.
Israel is always to blame, blame the

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Jews went, in doubt, blame
the Jews. If the dozen or so

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Muslim Arab countries in the Middle East, from Morocco to Libya to Egypt to

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Iran, Iraq to Syria to Jordan
Elebanon. If none of them are,

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if they're completely dysfunctional, if there's
no middle class, if they're run by

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grand potentates and military hunt leaders,
and the average person living in Libya or

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Egypt, or Jordan or Syria,
Iran Iraq lead miserable lives. It's terrible,

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especially women. Many times fathers will
sell their ten or eleven twelve year

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old daughters in exchange for money to
marry some fat ass forty year old for

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sufficient monies. Whenever there's no functional
society because of the failure of policy,

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guess what blame the Jews. Israel
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always to blame. When thirty one
student grew groups at Harvard, Harvard signed

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quote, we the undersigned student organizations
hold the Israeli regime responsible for all violence

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in the Middle East. All blame
the Jews. That's what's happening, not

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justin Jordan or Lebanon. This is
happening at Harvard, for God's sakes.

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Well, let's continue with your calls. Coming up next Bill Cunningham, the

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Great American with you every something else
by Billy Cunningham. Let's continue and never

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stop. We simply continue. The
vicious anti Semitism seen around Europe and in

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this country is completely disgusting, no
matter what the question is that a fault

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position must be blame the Jews no
matter what occurs. When your Wikipedia or

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look up how many Islamic terror attacks
have there been in the past since nineteen

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seventy nine, since the hostages were
taken, and something north of fifty five

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thousand separate Islamic terror attacks, killing
at least three hundred thousand. Now,

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the Islamic terror group could be known
as ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood or Hezbolah

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or Harmas, it could be the
Taliban could be Al Kada, could be

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Boca Haram, just come up with
a name. But to kill three hundred

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thousand, you would think the lack
of educated college kids would understand this.

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Terror attacks have taken place all over
Egypt and Norway and Sweden and Nigeria and

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New Zealand and Afghanistan of course,
Mal Deves Iran and Iraq, in Russia,

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in India and Pakistan, in England
and France and Germany, and the

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good Old US of A in Spain, in Canada, in Saudi Arabia and

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Israel and Syria and Somalia and Belgium
and Mali and the Philippines and Algeria and

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Jordan and Lebanon and Turkey, et
cetera, et cetera. Do you see

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a pattern here? Do you understand
what's happening? It is clearly true that

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the great majority of Muslims here and
around the world, especially here, want

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nothing to do with terror. But
it's also true that twenty to thirty percent

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and buy into the aims of isis
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two to three hundred million Muslims who
want to kill the Infidel. That's one

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hell of a number. Israel is
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dropping one million leaflets throughout Gaza,
by making literal telephone calls to residence on

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their phones telling them to get out, say quote, we're going to bomb

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your neighborhood, please get out in
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every day. In contrast, Hamas
urged the people to stay, blocks them

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from leaving, steals their food and
fuel, and they put up roadblocks to

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maximize civilian casualties. To blame the
Jews. Hamas leadership living in luxury,

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and Cutter makes it very clear that
they welcome the death of their own people

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during a jihad. They go right
to heaven with those seventy two virgins.

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In short, Israel does everything in
its power to minimize Sevilian casualties. Why

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how Mas seeks to maximize Sivilian casualties. But guess who's guilty for all that?

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Of course it's Israel, no question, On and on. In America,

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Jews have done famously well. Why
I have to ford disclosure. I

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practiced for many years. I'm a
practicing Roman Catholic. But I practiced for

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many years and a so called Jewish
law firm interacted completely went to a bunch

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of Jewish events. My lawyer,
my personal lawyer, is a Jew,

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not because he's a Jew, but
because he went to Brandie and he's brilliant.

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Jews are hated for being rich and
for being poor. Jews are hated

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for being powerful they want to take
over the world, and for being weak,

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for being miserable, wretched. Jews
are hated for being religious they think

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they're better than the rest of us, and for being secular. Why don't

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they try to fit in more?
Jews are hated by communists and capitalists and

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college students and fascist and hamas Iran
Iraq, by this squad, and on

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college campuses, they're hated. Jews
are hated when they're victorious, like in

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the four or five wars thrust upon
them, and they're hated when when they're

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victims. Jews are hated for not
fighting back. They went to the Holocaust

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as lambs and sheep. They didn't
fight back. And when they do fight

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back they're a victim. They're called
ethnic cleansers and they commit genocide. It's

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always the Jews. The Zionist thirty
Jews is what you hear constantly. It's

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disgusting. Jews are hated by black
supremacist and by white supremacist, and by

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capitalists and by college students. It's
always those thirty Jews, on and on

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and on because they're convenient scapegoats.
Jews in this country believe in faith and

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family, love of God. And
every time they go one hundred years ago

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into a city, suddenly there's lots
of busines, Suddenly there's hospitals popping up,

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like Jewish hospital. They put together
if they can't get in colleges and

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universities. They form their own They
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They do it themselves. They succeed
because of faith and family and hard

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work. That's why they succeed.
So now we're in a situation where I

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don't at times, I don't recognize
my country. I don't know what the

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hell's going on on college campuses,
capitals, and at some point Joe Biden

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will collapse as he's always done.
He's asleep right now, he's wearing his

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adult diapers to bed, and he's
mentally frail and elderly incapable of discharging the

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duties. The only problem is the
vice president would probably be worse. There's

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no way he completes the next fourteen
months. It's simply not going to happen.

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I'm sorry, twelve months. There's
no way with his steep mental decline

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to continue. Did you see him. A couple of days, He's going

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to be in San Francisco with with
President Zy is gonna it's gonna be embarrassing

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again. If the media covered him
objectively, he'd be out of office by

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now. The only thing to get
him out of office is if more polls

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come out that show he can't beat
Donald Trump, in which case the the

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intelligentsia in this country will kick him
out. Then put Kamala Harrison there.

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Then you're gonna have real problems.
My lordy, Chicago is so unpleasant.

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Migrants want to go back home.
They can't pay it anymore. The American

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dream for them is a nightmare,
unbelievable. Let's continue and coming up later

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as a retiring congressman, one of
the best, brad Winstrop. But he's

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gonna still, he's not gonna.
He's simply not going to run for reelection

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and and uh next November. Also
later on, as I read the book,

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David Johnson's book, The Diversity con
and is a con job that we've

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bought and paid for. Let's go
to j D in Vegas. Not heard

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from him in a long time,
JD and Vegas. Welcome to the Bill

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Cunningham Show. JD. How are
you? He well, I'm trying to

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hang in there, Billy, how
are you beating? Blooded and unbound?

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The Bengals today looked awful. Yeah, yeah, they had another tough one,

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Billy. I don't know if you
remember, but a long time ago,

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I think in the late fifties,
Congress called in Casey Stingle and Mickey

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Mantle to have a hearing on baseball's
anti trust league and anti trust laws.

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And Casey they asked him a question
and he talked for about an hour,

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and as you remember how he talked
in sting Elise. Then they went to

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Mickey Mantle and they asked him what
he thought, and Mickey old good old

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Mix says, I agree with everything
Casey said. Bill, I agree with

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everything you have said for the last
half hour. J D. Don't you

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think we have some we have some
barnacles on us? And I just don't

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know how America, despite the comments
of Abraham Lincoln, I look at Las

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Vegas and Clark County and I see
the polling has the Trumps are up by

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ten percentage points. How many thousands
of illegals vote every year in Las Vegas.

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Well, we have about four hundred
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three million in Las Vegas. That's
a question that is, you know,

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up for discussion. I can't give
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close to it. I'm close to
the Republican people in the party. But

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I wanted to comment on your congressman. I followed him a little bit on

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your show, and I read in
the paper and I was very disgusted to

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hear that he's not running West trip
again. You have the Republican Congress has

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a very strong group of intelligent doctors
and lawyers and businessmen. As in comparison

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to the Senate on both sides,
I could only probably name ten Republican senators

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that are worthwhile. I could only
name one Democrat, and he's up for

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he's up in the air right now. But the Durban's and the Schumers,

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and the white Houses and the Bloomenthals. I mean, there's just one despicable

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senator after another. And in Congress, you know, they vote like lemmings.

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Whatever Pelosi told them to do.
It's always two hundred and twenty two.

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Out of two hundred and twenty two, at least three Republicans stand up

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their independent thinkers and they fight a
little bit, and that's where we get

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into our problems. But I guarantee
you you put the intelligence quot in the

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in the house, we are so
much better than them. And you had

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guys like doctor Tom out of Nebraska, he passed away. He ran for

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two terms. Tom Coolberg. You
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He ran for two terms. To
me, the Republicans run for two terms

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and they either they say, let's
the next guy try it, or I'm

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spinning my wheels and whereas the Democrats
just hang in there like the ladies and

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fifty years. You know, it
amazes me how Biden keeps coming up with

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things that have to be taken care
of and have to be done after thirty

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six years in the Senate and eight
years as a Vice president. He just

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realized three years ago, out of
all the things that have to be done,

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Bill, if you're in your job
for forty four years and you haven't

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gotten anywhere near all the things that
he's trying to do, I mean,

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you're incompetent. And I have a
leave now that you know. The Democrats

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just just don't do their research,
they don't do anything. They're just in't

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there to hang on. The Republicans
come up with figures and facts and what

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have you, and they just get
filibustered out and after a while they give

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up. I mean, is Isa
from California smart as a whip? Yeah?

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Uh, you know that guy,
the guy that was in Texas and

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Trump brought him in I forget his
name. Now he was an intel and

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then he didn't he didn't run.
But I mean, there are so many

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intelligent Republican Congress people as compared to
the Democrats. They give him a bunk.

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Pelosi gave him a bunch of money
to take back to Baltimore, Pittsburgh,

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Philadelphia, Detroit, and Chicago and
Billy. Where'd that money go in

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one of the pockets of left wing
groups to misspend and to miseducate large numbers

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of individuals. It was wasted,
it was given away. We have the

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debt with no consequence, We have
nothing benefiting. How about six trillillion dollars

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was spent during the pandemic, and
sadly the Trumpster had a bunch of deficit

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in his four years of about seven
trillion dollars. And then so when Biden

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gets in here to match that spending
and the money is gone and we still

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we're going to pay one trillion dollars
this physical year and interest on the national

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debt one trillion dollars. Believe they
can't even give money away without losing twenty

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five or thirty five percent of it
defraud And just last week I read there

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are billions and billions of dollars from
that money during COVID that were scammed,

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and they know it, and they've
made the decision not to prosecute and go

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after the people because it what costs
more money than they could collect. It's

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unbelievable, like, for example,
the money we give to Ukraine. I

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wouldn't give them a dollar. I'd
give them I'd give them a gun,

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I'd give them bullets, but I
wouldn't pay for their pensions, and I

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wouldn't pay for their infrastructure. People
that their their their leaders or whatever.

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Yeah, give them, give them
what they need in ammunition, but not

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any cash. And what Biden has
done with the college loans. You talk

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about the polls. Everybody's really hpped
up on how big Trump is on these

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poles. I got a better poll
for you a couple of days before or

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after that poll, I can't remember. They asked individual questions. Who's better

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Biden or Trump on the economy?
Trump plus twenty two percent. Who's better

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on the border, Trump up tremendous. Who's better on the on the on

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the border, on forums, the
issues? You take a national poll just

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recently, Okay, he's ahead,
but I don't believe those polls at all.

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But the individual issues on the border, I mean, we got ten

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million people in this country, Bill, that we don't even know where the

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hell what one hundred and sixty from
one hundred and sixty countries. What kind

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of a melting pot are we are? We We're not a milting pot.

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It's like we're going to be the
potty's melted. I mean it's a glow

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torch. And JD we have seven
and thirty two individuals from those Iran,

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Iraq, Jordan, and Lebanon that
have been released inside the country, including

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more than one hundred and fifty on
the terror watch list. We release terrorists

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from Iran into the United States of
America. That's what we do, and

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suddenly that's somehow permissible. Jad.
Thanks for your call, But I tell

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you, damned this thing I've ever
seen in my God. Do we need

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leadership right now? And we have
none. And the media is not done

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doing his job yet on Donald Trump. The charges are a bunch of bs

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and the civil case is worse than
that. Well, let's continue with more

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fifty minutes after the hour, Bill
cunning on the Great American with you every

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Sunday there's not a moral equivalence between
the rape victim and the rapist, between

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the murdered and the murderer, there's
not an equivalence. There's not a moral

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But what about is them? That's
not the case. Israel was viciously and

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unwarrantly attacked by about three thousand Hamas
murderers, hyped up on drugs, with

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battle plans, according to The Washington
Post, that involved marching into the West

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Bank, hooking up with terrorist groups
there and have a complete complete obliteration of

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the state of Israel from the river
to the sea. Palestine must be free.

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Well number one, there is no
Palestine. Number two. Israel has

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tried many times for a two state
solution. Keep talking about two state solution,

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two state solution. Gaza and the
West Bank is the two state solution.

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But it is so screwy there and
so bad to live there. Hamas

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and others take all the money provided
by others and use it for guns and

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weapons instead of hospitals and schools.
The problem is a good chunk of Gods

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of residence support the goals and aims
of Hamas, Burgee, Gabriel. It

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got to get her on soon.
I washed her In a panel discussion,

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Bragee Gabriel said, there's two hundred
to three hundred million Muslims around the world

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that support Hamas and Hasbla and what
they want to do. Now that is

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not most It might only be twenty
percent of the total. But when you

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have two to three hundred million people
committed to your death in Israel to Jews,

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supported by the ignorance the useful idiots
on college campuses, that's a terrible

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problem. And I can understand completely
what Jews in this country feel as if

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they're under attack, and it's got
to stop inside of America, and the

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administrators of these colleges and the mayors
of these blue cities, you got to

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rise up and say you're no different
than the ku Klux Klan or the Nazis.

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You're a hate group and we won't
put up with this at Harvard or

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Columbia, University of Chicago, University
of Cincinnati, UCLA, or Portland.

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What's happening in the West Coast is
particularly egregious. So let's continue with more.

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We never stop, We simply continue. I as a great American,

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will never give up on the Home
of the Free and the land of the

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brave. Coming up here in about
ten minutes will be Congress from brad Winstrip.

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He's Chair of the Origins of the
COVID Virus. He's also on the

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man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but

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two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast
excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham,

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Kelly Cunningham, the great American,
of course. One of the great

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Congressmen anywhere on this great nation of
ours is Congressman brad Winstrip. Been there

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about twelve consecutive years. He made
a rather dramatic announcement about three or four

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days ago that he will not seek
re election to another term as US House

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of Representatives. And if you listen
to me for a while, Brad comes

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on quite often. He's on the
Ways and Means Committee. He's on the

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Intelligence Committee, he's chair of a
subcommittee looking into the origins of COVID nineteen.

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But most importantly, Politico and others
have said he's one of the top

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ten US Congressmen from either party of
the four hundred and thirty five. He's

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in the top ten because of his
influence and his committee assignment's ability to walk

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across the island, deal with Democrats
at times, and he's well respected.

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So it's said to lose people like
this. He's got one more year to

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serve and Congressman Brad Winster, welcome, I think for one of the final

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times as a Congressman to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And can you tell the

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American people why you decided to make
this at this point? You announced it

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I think on Thursday, three or
four days ago. And why are you

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leaving Congress at the end of your
term. Yeah? First of all,

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Yeah, we've got fourteen more months
to go and I plan to run through

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the tape. We've got a lot
to do, and I hope to get

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a lot of things done when it
comes to dealing with the pandemic and how

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we deal with one in the future, as well as how we can make

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America a healthier nation, not just
to have a health care policy, but

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actually be a healthy nation, and
can continue to work on national security.

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And I think at the end of
this term there'll be opportunities out there to

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continue to stay in the game,
not necessarily in an elected position. So

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we'll see what comes our way.
But a lot of that had to do

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with family. I've got young kids
and I miss them, and so that's

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a big part of it. And
you know, Congress is hectic. We

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know that going in. When I
started twelve years ago, I didn't have

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any kids, and now I have
two, and I want to make sure

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that I'm there because I think one
of the most important things that we can

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do in America is be good parents. And sometimes fathers aren't present as much

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as they should be. And my
kids want me around and I want to

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be there. And you know,
I was reminded a while back by one

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of my surgeon mentors that I was
taught by as a physician, and he

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said, you don't have to be
someone somewhere else as long as you're somebody

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at home. And I've always believed
in God, family, and country in

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that order, and I'll continue to
work on all three as far as the

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typical life of a US congressman,
many many years ago, before you took

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office, I met with a congressman
at that point, Congressman Rob Portman,

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and I had sites of maybe running
for that seat, and he said,

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before you do it, I want
to meet with you. I said,

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rob Id, love to meet with
you. And I met with him.

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I said, he said, let
me show you my schedule. I said,

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okay, let me see your schedule. He left on an early flight

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on Monday morning and was in Washington
by about ten am eleven am on Monday.

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If he had something going on early
Monday, he left on Sunday and

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he stayed there until Thursday night.
On Friday, he showed me scheduled in

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Washington. He was on four committees. He showed me the appointments he had

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coming up the next week. He
showed me the presentations, the speeches.

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And the worst part about the job, he said, was cold calling people

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to get money. As a relatively
new US congressman, I had to go

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into a soundproof booth. Gave me
a list of people to call and shake

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them down legally of course, for
money. And then he showed me when

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I got back on Thursday night of
Friday. I had at that particular weekend

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seventeen appearances on Friday, Saturday,
and part of Sunday. Do you run

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a similar schedule pretty much, except
that I have to say I've been in

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a position one way or another that
I actually have fundraising teams that do most

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of that work. I mean,
I will have events, and I will

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have meetings and this and that,
but I don't do a lot of the

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phone calling. It's set up and
we seek it in another way. So

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I've been fortunate. It's not that
way necessarily every district, but we've been

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able to work it that way.
But otherwise, Yes, one time I

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wore a fit bit and I was
doing between thirteen and eighteen thousand steps a

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day in the Capitol, just going
from one committee to the next. So

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you get a pretty good idea.
It's not a desk job, that's for

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sure, although you do spend other
hours at your desk doing a lot of

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work, and it's been enjoyable work, there's no doubt. But I'm not

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leaving bitter or anything like that.
I no, democracy can be very messy.

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I think it's messier right now than
it has been in the past,

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But that doesn't mean we can't get
things done. You cited those other articles.

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I think that sometimes when you do
things, you get them done quietly.

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You're not necessarily on TV talking about
them. And I think that as

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a doctor and as a veteran,
you can bring a lot more to the

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table on issues involving health and military
and that's where we get things done and

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sometimes bipartisan with other doctors and other
veterans, and so I think that had

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something to do. But if you
take a come in a sense approach to

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a lot of things, and you
work on being persuasive rather than bombastic,

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you can really get things done.
And I have a Reagan quote on my

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desk. It said there's no limit
to what you can accomplish if you don't

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care who gets the credits. Yeah, no question, you're one of the

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top ten, maybe the top five
or six. You're up there in my

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book with Congress from Jim Jordan,
people like that. I have great respect

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for. You've been called a doctor
for about thirty thirty five years. You've

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been called a colonel recently promoted,
you were in the military twenty five years

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and now a congressman. But for
about twelve years. So you're a doctor,

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a colonel, a congressman. But
the most important thing you've been called

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is dad or honey that from your
wife? Correct, how's that too?

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I want to keep that one going
for sure, you know. But yeah,

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it's it's it's true, and it's
music to my ears when I hear

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the kids, you know, call
me Dad. I got married late.

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Didn't know if I'd ever hear that, so I'm thrilled to have it.

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And you know, there was a
time when the kids weren't going to school

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yet where we drove back and forth
every week too, to add to it,

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but the kids were good in the
car. They watched Andy Griffiths and

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they know that show. So we're
trying to do things best we can.

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Will it. What are you going
to do, because you're still a relatively

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young man. Are you gonna back
into practice? You're retired from the military

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as a colonel, you're retired as
a congressman. Are you going to be

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a doctor. I'll always be a
doctor in some way, shape or form.

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We'll see. I don't know if
it'll be full time practice like before,

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but at the same time, I
think that there'll be avenues to be

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engaged in the health arena as well
as the national security arena. And at

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the same time, I think there's
going to be some things that you can

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do locally, philanthropically or just making
good connections for people, because I think

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there's a lot of things you can
do if you don't wait for Washington,

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we can do it better privately than
if Washington tries to do it. All

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right, Congressman Brad Winshall, let's
go on to some of the issues.

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On Friday, all hell could break
loose again. It appears that the proposals

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of Speaker of the House Johnson to
break this thing down into two parts.

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A part of it would be a
valot until January, then part would be

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February. He doesn't want to tie
everything together the one hundred and six billion

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dollars, which is a credit card
debt. On top of the credit card

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debt, what's going to happen between
now and Friday? Is there going to

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be another government shutdown? Well,
when nobody runs to shut down, I

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can tell you that. But what
we want to do is put things in

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place to start with better process.
And we've seen over the last several years

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what we don't want to see is
a bill at the end of the year

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that's a huge garbage pail where everything
gets thrown into it and it gets passed,

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and usually it's an increase in spending. And so we want to paste

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this out, but actually working in
our committees in the House, not much

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in the Senate, but in the
House, to go ahead and come up

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with our appropriations bills, our actual
spending bills where we actually say this is

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where we want to spend money.
And so what's being proposed is to extend

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government funding in two steps. Go
with four appropriations bills that will extend to

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January nineteenth, and then the remaining
eight bills extend until February second. That

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doesn't mean we haven't done these things
in the House and aren't close to completing

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them all, but understand that when
we get it done in the House,

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then has to go to the Senate
or the Senate has to bring theirs to

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the table and we go to conference
and then it goes to the President.

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So we're buying time. And you
know, we also have a bill in

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place, so if we get into
January, there's an automatic one percent cut.

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At the same time, we're going
to make sure that we can adequately

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fund our military and can engage with
some of the situations we have going on

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around the world, but a one
percent cut on most other areas would be

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just fine with me because we have
a lot of unnecessary spending. The bottom

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line is we have to get back
to a process where we are really acting

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like a business like CEOs and getting
together and deciding how we're going to spend

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our money and address our debt.
It is one of our greatest risks.

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The trajectory is unsustainable. Moody's is
put the US credit rating on a downgrade

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watch. You know, it's a
negative outlook for the US credit rating,

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and we've got to do better in
managing our country. And at some point

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we also have to address mandatory spending. Those are the things that are programs

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that money just goes out the door
without us ever looking at it, and

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they're taking over the pie. So
in addition to borrowing money, what we

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actually have keeps getting squnched as far
as the discretionary spending, which is what

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those appropriations bills are. But at
the same time, when you put a

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program in place and you put it
in perpetuity, you've got to go back

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and look and see if it's working
and can it be sustainable. You have

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to look at numbers. You have
to look at how many people pay into

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the tax paying system, all of
these types of things. What does the

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next generation look like? That's what
actuaries do with insurance companies. That's what

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we have to do as a nation. Are you shocked, Oh, what's

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happening since October seventh about the Hamas
chapters on most US college campuses. One

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hundred thousand march to New York City, one hundred and fifty thousand marched over

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the weekend in London. Are you
shocked at the blatant anti semitism you're seeing

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everywhere as if it's mainstream. I
am. I had you know, we

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knew we had problems on our campuses
without a doubt, But for people to

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be so one sided, they have
so much hatred and be able to completely

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ignore what Hamas did when they went
into innocent civilians in Israel, and I

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don't think we've seen anything like that
in this world since the Holocaust, to

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be honest with you, as far
as brutal, terrible behavior where you totally

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re disregard someone's life, down to
children, the atrocities that were committed on

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and these groups seemed to be able
to just ignore that. And now we

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hear a call. We now we
hear a call for a ceasefire. Bill,

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Well, there was a ceasefire.
There was a ceasefire, but Hamas

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Hamas negated it. Hamas went right
in. Hamas went right in and just

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took down innocent people. Took no
prisoners, if you will, except for

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some. And they're still held hostage, and no one seems to want a

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comment on that. I've been for
a two state solution for some time,

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and but you know what, this
is interesting. Bill. We were cleaning

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the house and a picture frame came
open in the back and there was old

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newspaper. We're in there for nineteen
ninety four Cincinnati enquire The sports section was

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00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.840
kind of fun because we just want
opening days. This is April of ninety

610
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:13.880
four. Kevin Mitchell hit a home
run. Anyway, But if you look

611
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.400
at this, I went to page
two of the front page and it was

612
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:22.480
the Israeli soldiers leaving Gaza. It
was an article about them leaving Gaza and

613
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.559
they're being attacked, and they're being
attacked by the youth who are throwing rocks

614
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:31.960
at them and chanting we don't want
peace. Because the reporter, I don't

615
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.360
know if it was an AP reporter, they were like, well, why

616
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.840
are you doing this? You know
they're they're leaving. They're leaving, so

617
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:42.280
they're gonna be peace and we don't
want peace. This is the youth.

618
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.760
Well now what are they forty years
old? Now you know who they are.

619
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:49.840
So this seems to be something taught. It seems to be within that

620
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.519
particular group. There is no there
is no chance of peace. They don't

621
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:59.679
want peace. It's death or nothing
else for Jews right now. And you

622
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.079
know, Israel has the right to
defend itself and they should and we're going

623
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.000
to help them and as as we
can. You know, the House has

624
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.519
passed a bill to fund them,
and we also paid for it in our

625
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:15.519
time. We took some money from
the Irs to be able to actually that

626
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.360
was already appropriated by Democrats. We
took some of that money to pay for

627
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.000
you know, from the IRS,
to pay for the funding for Israel to

628
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:30.519
defend itself. Yeah, and I
would say this that that in this country,

629
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:36.840
I don't think things have been this
bad since nineteen sixty eight, with

630
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.000
all the riots in nineteen sixty eight, the political assassinations, what happened in

631
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:45.639
Chicago, And here we are in
twenty twenty three, and something got screwed

632
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:51.400
up three or four years ago.
Maybe it was because of the George Floyd

633
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.039
riots. They weren't protest. They
were riots in which cops were killed,

634
00:52:54.519 --> 00:53:00.440
a couple billion dollars of value taken
out of cities, complete col lapse of

635
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.480
law and order. Whatever it was, George Soros to Marxist, whatever it

636
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.559
is, things have been completely screwed
up. And now it just seems like

637
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:13.760
riots. Protests, knocking on the
doors of the White House, bloody hands

638
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.880
all over the building from pro a
Moaque demonstrators, Lafayette Statue vandalized. It's

639
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:27.079
happening in many major cities. I
see the swastika put on NYPD police cars

640
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.039
over the weekend in order to,
I guess, frighten the Jews. Just

641
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:36.199
massive lawlessness is happening everywhere. Everywhere
I look, I see nothing but crisis.

642
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.440
You're in the belly of the beast. Is there a belief in an

643
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:45.840
apprehension in Washington, Congressman that we
are living in very perilous times When it

644
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:51.719
comes to spending by this country.
The two wars in Europe and in the

645
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.519
Middle East. You have a complete
breakdown of law and order on the southern

646
00:53:54.559 --> 00:54:00.639
border. I saw on one of
the morning morning shows today that there's a

647
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:06.480
school district in Texas near the border
that has to have Narkham available because they've

648
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:12.840
had several overdoses. They think unwinningly
of grade school kids. That the prevalence

649
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:19.719
of heroin, percoset and fentanyl is
so ubiquitous that Narkham is being handed out

650
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:25.199
to seven and eight year olds to
their parents in case they inadvertently take fentanyl

651
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:30.880
or purposely take percoset. If you're
in high school, there is something wrong

652
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.199
in this country right now. We
need people like you to stick around.

653
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.280
Brad Winstrop. I understand why you're
leaving. But nonetheless, is there a

654
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:45.519
sense among Republicans and Democrats in Washington
that we are in trouble? Yeah,

655
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.280
there is a huge sense of it, I could say so within the Republican

656
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:52.400
Party. I think in the Democrat
Party they understand it. A matter of

657
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:54.800
fact, I think more and more
of them really want to do something about

658
00:54:54.800 --> 00:55:00.559
the border, and especially when you
start talking about Sentinel. There are many

659
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.840
over there China is and the other
threat that yeah, we haven't even really

660
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.400
talked about in this conversation, but
we have many, many times, and

661
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.519
it's it's a big part of the
problem. You know, I'll still be

662
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.159
in the fight, but I want
to make sure my kids know what America

663
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:21.159
is really founded on what we have
been and hopefully you know this. This

664
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.840
seems like more than just a little
bit of a pendulum swing. Is much

665
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:29.199
greater than that, and we have
to address that. And people have to

666
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:35.360
start understanding that America is being self
destructed and also being distructed, and it's

667
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:40.119
happening on many many fronts, and
we have to continue to go after that.

668
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:44.880
But I don't think people are growing
up with the right education on many

669
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:49.559
fronts, and that has been the
problem when we've let it happen. And

670
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:53.199
you know what, this is the
greatest country that's ever existed, but you

671
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:59.440
have to continue to live by the
same principles, morals, values and virtues

672
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:04.199
we have had for over two hundred
years. And when we start letting those

673
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:07.840
go, then we have a problem. And if you're going to disrespect the

674
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:13.239
democracy, the only democracy in the
Middle East and be okay with them being

675
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:17.480
slaughtered and support those that are slaughtering
them. This is a sickness and it's

676
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.199
a culture of death that is out
there on many fronts. All right,

677
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:25.760
thank you, and we'll talk again
later this year and next. But congratulations

678
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:32.519
brad Winstrup, doctor, colonel,
congressman, father and a husband coming back

679
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:36.920
home in about a year. Brad
Winstrop, once again, thank you for

680
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.000
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Congressman. Thank you always

681
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:43.800
a pleasure. Thank you, God
bless you. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham

682
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:54.639
with you every Sunday night. I'm
Billy Cunningham, the Great American. It's

683
00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:00.639
kind of sad when someone like Representative
Congressman brad Winstrup and military man, a

684
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:05.400
doctor, congressman for like twelve years, says I can't take it anymore.

685
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.760
But it happens. You have a
life to live and you want to live

686
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:13.880
in and brad Winstrom has one more
year ago then it's done. Coming up

687
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.960
next is David Johnson The Diversity Con
and it is a con and it's a

688
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.760
New York Times bestselling author. David
Johnson is next, and six month old

689
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:32.840
babies be racist. Bill Cunningham with
you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham,

690
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.320
The Great American. Of course,
one of the great con jobs happening is

691
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:43.199
that America is a racist, sexist, homophobic nation that is almost irredeemable.

692
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.400
And my next guest points out there
are many words that exist today in reality,

693
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:53.559
especially in colleges and universities and elsewhere, like diversity and equity and inclusion

694
00:57:54.000 --> 00:58:00.400
and white privilege and anti racism and
critical waste theory and queer theory. I

695
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.079
kind of feel bad saying the word
queer, but I guess it's okay.

696
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:07.480
Now. There were terms that rarely
discussed five ten years ago, didn't exist,

697
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.440
but today they're proliferating because I think
they pay a whole bunch of money

698
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:15.199
to those who advocate. One of
the great new books out is The Diversity

699
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:20.880
con The Secrets and Lies behind the
Shady DEI Industry, put together by David

700
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.199
Johnson and David Johnson. Welcome,
I think for the first time, to

701
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:28.119
the Bill Cunningham Show. And David. First of all, let's go back

702
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.599
a little bit in time to your
history. I've read some of your background,

703
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:37.639
and you don't necessarily fit the ideal
of what many would say is acceptable

704
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:42.400
in our society, which I find
very acceptable. Tell us a little bit,

705
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:47.239
a little bit about your journey before
we get into the diversity con sure,

706
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:51.880
so, and thank you for having
me. By the way, I'm

707
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:57.199
not a conservative, so I'm like
a traditional liberals. I guess you could

708
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.159
say the time my story started with
I worked for Hasbro is an engineer,

709
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:07.840
and one day they brought me into
a CRT training seminar and the messages that

710
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:15.559
we were told was that children as
young as five would start to exhibit oh

711
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.760
sorry, they started to exhibit overt
racial biases and the same level as their

712
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:24.800
parents five years old. Yep,
children as young at five, particularly white

713
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:31.920
children. And what they wanted the
engineers to do my team was to use

714
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:42.079
anti racist messaging to influence the product
and packaging to bring the racial consciousness to

715
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.840
young children. And this is Hasbro, which is one of the great toy

716
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:49.840
makers in America. And so you
also point out in a part of this

717
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:55.079
that that that left claims that a
six month old it can be a racist

718
00:59:55.079 --> 01:00:00.880
baby, and that by the time
of five, Hasbro has a mission changing

719
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:07.159
the toys that little kids play with
to make them anti racist. And so,

720
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.159
and also you say in your bio, which I find very interesting that

721
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:15.920
you're a young, black, center
left gay man who never felt discriminated against

722
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:20.719
in America, but now you're an
engineer working for Hasbro, and all of

723
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:25.679
a sudden, you're taught to look
for racism everywhere. Yeah, that's true.

724
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.960
So I grew up in upstate New
York, and like, there's racism

725
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:36.119
in the country at micro levels that
I'm sure many people have experienced. But

726
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.400
the claim that we're being taught to
accept now is that America as a whole

727
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:45.199
is a racist country, and that
all of our institutions are set up to

728
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.159
disadvantage black people. Martin Luther King
that we're supposed to judge people based on

729
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:55.440
their merits and their character, not
the color of their skin. But diversity,

730
01:00:55.559 --> 01:01:00.960
equity, and inclusion are the complete
antithesis of this idea. And so

731
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.000
where how does this tell me?
As an engineer for Hasbro? How did

732
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:10.119
you manifest what the company wanted to
be done? So that a three year

733
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:15.880
old girl doesn't develop racist ideas from
a doll or some toy. How do

734
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:22.599
you change the product or what do
you reflect in the product? So they

735
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:27.639
didn't give up any specifics in that
meeting at the time, But the overall

736
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:32.119
message that they were giving us was
to just use the ideals of anti racism

737
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:37.679
and critical race theory and keep it
in mind when designing packaging, advertising and

738
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:43.199
marketing. How do you do that? How do you how do you keep

739
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.159
anti racism in mind when you talk
about toy packaging? How does that work?

740
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.280
You could do it in a number
of ways. What we see typically

741
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:59.000
is that you might have a children's
package with the Black Lives Matter fifth and

742
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:06.559
maybe in a assortment of racially diverse
children that are espousing these the teachings of

743
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:12.440
these organizations or these ideologies that people
need to see color. That was a

744
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:16.440
model used by a cartoon network's Children
Show to teach children that they should judge

745
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:22.280
people based on race and consider that
when they're treating people. And so it's

746
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.960
one thing to have a black barbie, which I don't that's fine, But

747
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:36.000
to have subliminal, indirect liberal messages
inside a toy product. Is that kind

748
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.239
of where you draw the line?
Yes, So, like you said,

749
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.639
I don't think most people would care
if there's a black barbie, for example,

750
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.000
But the problem would come in to
say, when you tell children that

751
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:50.519
the black children need to play with
the black barbie and the white children need

752
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.639
to only play with the white barbie, and that these the differences in race

753
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:58.840
need to be accounted for when they're
interacting with each other. This is where

754
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:00.920
I draw the line, and this
is why I found it so unacceptable,

755
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:05.760
and I thought that I needed to
bring it to the public's attention. It's

756
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.960
happening as we speak. As far
as other indications of this, your book

757
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:17.079
addresses the misconception that efforts are Marxist
and origins while using Marxist ideology, these

758
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:23.719
large left wing businesses that fund DEI
groups are more interested in crushing local businesses

759
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:30.920
creating a monopoly such as Google and
Amazon and Facebook. They use race and

760
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:36.599
acceptable DEI practices in liberal communities,
but the object is to make certain of

761
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:43.239
small businesses that they compete against cannot
succeed. That is one facet of it.

762
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:49.280
Because these ideologies are pushed by such
major market players like Google, who's

763
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.800
owned by Alphabet who's even larger company. You have the NFL pushing this,

764
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:57.320
you have places like Target. Even
Walmart had a d program for their employees.

765
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:02.320
So it's a very widespread issue.
And while one of the side effects

766
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:06.719
of their activism is going to be
the destruction of businesses that don't comply.

767
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:13.239
The end goal is to kind of
engineer a society what they would call an

768
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:18.159
inclusive society, where the even idea
to challenge these ideas is just unacceptable.

769
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:23.800
It's not anything that's allowed to be
done lest you face the consequences of losing

770
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:30.119
your job or social ostratitization. So
basically there's one. It's almost like the

771
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:34.199
cultural revolution of communists China back in
the sixties and seventies, in which you

772
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:39.400
have to believe or adhere there are
certain set of principles and if you fail

773
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:44.360
to do so, you will be
canceled. It is the exact same we

774
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:47.880
are experiencing a cultural revolution in America, and you can see the parallels in

775
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:53.440
that because a lot of these activists, while they're teaching DII or critical race

776
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:59.320
the or they are also throw in
a criticism of generally just what they consider

777
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:03.679
capitalism, even though the nature of
capitalism free market exchange, is what allows

778
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:10.320
America to be prosperous, but they
have been taught to see capitalism as an

779
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:15.400
inherent evil because it doesn't bring about
equal outcomes for all the people. Involved,

780
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:17.440
nor should it, because we don't
want equal outcome. We want people

781
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.679
to earn. What will people to
have what they earn through their merit.

782
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:26.960
No one decided this. There was
no law that told Hasbro or Amazon or

783
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.159
Walmart or Target what they had to
do what they didn't have to do.

784
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.920
So it seems like no one is
directing all this DEI stuff all over the

785
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:41.039
country, but everyone's like marching in
the same direction that are in charge of

786
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:45.679
these large multinationals. Can you tell
us why in your opinion, it's happening

787
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:50.360
that way? Because bud Light came
out a little bit strong with Dylan mulvaney,

788
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:54.920
etc. Bud Lights now used to
be the top brand. Now it's

789
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:59.000
not in the top ten. Target's
taking a serious hit when you have tuck

790
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:04.760
pouches three year old boys or girls
that identify some other gender. Is there

791
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:11.800
other marching orders given? How come
different companies, different businesses in different ways

792
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:16.239
of life proceed with DEI But like
nobody specifically is in charge, they just

793
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:23.280
know to do it. The companies
are facing pressures from what I would generally

794
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:28.679
consider two major sources. The first
source is top down from such large institutions

795
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:33.840
like black Rock, and other large
investment firms that will go to these companies

796
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.519
and say, hey, we have
a DEI program for you, and if

797
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:42.639
you want to continue receiving our investment, if you want to receive certain credations,

798
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:45.880
then you will have to implement this
in your company. So it creates

799
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.679
a corporate pressure from that's top down. And then on the other side of

800
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:56.320
it, there's an emergent social pressure
with the advent of social media, where

801
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:01.840
relatively small groups of people can brigade
a company and give their ideology a much

802
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:08.559
bigger sense of popularity among the populace
that it actually has. So companies will

803
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:14.880
interact with social media and think that
the general public supports anti racism as an

804
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:18.280
example, when they don't, but
it has an outsized view because of social

805
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:24.559
media. David Johnson, author of
the Diversity con And so for a large

806
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:31.000
multinational institution like Target or Walmart,
there are pitches given in Bentonville, Arkansas

807
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:36.559
every year for thousands of companies line
up in order to pitch Walmart on buying

808
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:41.360
their product and putting it on the
shelf. You mean to say that part

809
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:47.199
of accepting the product from a small
provider to Walmart, Walmart will say to

810
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:51.159
that small company, we like to
do business with you, but here's some

811
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:57.719
DEI programs, which I consider it
to be dee, not DEI because we're

812
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:00.159
going to die from this. But
here are the programs we would like you

813
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:03.280
to implement. Wink wink, nod, nod, you better do it.

814
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:10.079
Is that how it works. That's
a pretty good way to describe it.

815
01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:14.000
It will usually come in the form
of they'll have a certificate, for example,

816
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:21.159
and it's this company's certified diversity.
It's the acceptable levels that the top

817
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:26.079
down companies would like to see.
And the smaller companies can either choose to

818
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:30.279
abide by it and then adopt these
diversity programs or they can reject it.

819
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:35.720
But then it comes across that they
have less certifications, they have less I

820
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:43.000
guess it doesn't look as good when
they're compared to their competitors and as far

821
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.439
as getting future business. Much like
during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, you get

822
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:51.720
so many red ribbons when you complete
certain levels of indoctrination. The more levels

823
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:58.039
are, the more emblems or symbols
you accumulate, the more likely the fellow

824
01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:01.720
travelers will do business with you because
of what you put out on your company.

825
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:05.560
Website, for example. It is
almost required to do business with these

826
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:13.920
large companies Amazon, Microsoft, Walmart, Target. You have to tow the

827
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:15.800
company line to make the money,
and if you don't, guess what,

828
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.000
you're not going to get the business. Now do you see this, David

829
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:23.479
Johnson, Here we are at the
end of twenty twenty three. Is this

830
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:29.159
accelerating, Is this declining or is
this maintaining the status quo as far as

831
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:32.520
companies having to tow the DEI line
to get business. Is this increasing,

832
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:40.039
staying the same, or lessening.
It's tough to say. I would say

833
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:45.279
that the status quo of companies just
blindly accepting it has been disrupted because we've

834
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:51.880
seen such major backlash against companies like
Anneiser, Busch and Target. So I

835
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:57.319
believe that if the public continues to
speak out and make their voices known that

836
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.840
these are not ideals that we will
suppor with our dollars, then we will

837
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:06.800
see a continued decline of these ideas
being accepted in institutions. However, on

838
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:14.319
the other side of that is because
they're seeing pushback, the push to have

839
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:20.680
these companies coerced into accepting this has
become more forceful. These individuals who teach

840
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:26.199
these classes. Do they really believe
that a six month old or a four

841
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:31.199
year old little girl is racist?
Do they really believe that? Some of

842
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:39.079
them do. I think very very
much that it's like a cult mentality.

843
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.880
There are people who know that it's
not true, but they're pushing it for

844
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.720
ideological gains. And there are people
that are true believers that don't think through

845
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:53.119
these ideas completely, so they're not
aware of the contradictions or the absurd piece

846
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:56.119
of sen it. You know,
David Johnson, you made some great comments,

847
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.640
one of which is, you see
what's happened to bud Light, you

848
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:03.039
see what's happening to Target, you
see what's happening to Disney, And that

849
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:06.520
is I will not go to Disney. I don't drink beer, I don't

850
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:10.880
drink any alcohol, but I would
clearly not order a bud Light. And

851
01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:15.119
more than once I've passed a Target
to go to a Walmart. However,

852
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:20.600
I'm not sure Walmart is significantly different
than Target, but nonetheless Target got in

853
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:24.399
the got into Target. Shall we
say of those of us who want a

854
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:29.439
more traditional viewpoint, but this is
uh. I'll ask you the last question,

855
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:33.359
David Johnson, is this is this
so system systematic. Is this so

856
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:40.159
ingrained in corporate structures, like through
black Rock that owns thousands and thousands of

857
01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:44.520
businesses? Is this so ingrained that
it's going to be damn near impossible to

858
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:51.680
reverse. It's very ingrained for virtually
every major institution, But it's not impossible.

859
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:56.920
And I think we've proven that by
the fact that Anheuser Busch went from

860
01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:00.840
being the number one beer to no
longer being in the top ten. And

861
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:04.479
I think that it's good that people
stop going to Target and go to other

862
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:09.239
places, even if it's Walmart that
also has the policies, but they're less

863
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:14.399
vocal about it. So it's an
incremental shift back towards normalcy, back towards

864
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:17.760
American values. So if we continue
to do that, then I think more

865
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:21.960
and more the needle will be pushed
back towards the center, and these companies

866
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:27.239
will be forced to reject these ideologies
or they'll be hurt in their bottom line.

867
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:30.479
David Johnson, thanks for coming on
to Bill Cunningham Show. There's going

868
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.520
to be about a million Americans who
hear this interview at some point. I

869
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:38.439
love the fact that Dennis Prager has
the forward to your book and the fact

870
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:42.960
you know of what you speak.
You describe yourself as a gay, black

871
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:46.840
American center left who's never been felt
discrimination. I'm sure you have felt it.

872
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:53.199
I'm sure I've had it. Everyone
feels discrimination or censusent in one way

873
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:57.800
or another because of the way of
one's appearance, one's weight, one's age,

874
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.479
the way one talks, the way. Absolutely, those things are everywhere.

875
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:06.159
But I don't want invidious discrimination where
you're held back because of your gay

876
01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:10.920
status or your color. That that
is not the American way. But the

877
01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:15.239
book is fabulous. It's called The
Diversity con the secrets and lies between the

878
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:20.000
shady DEI industry, and it happens
because lots of money is involved. Billions

879
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:25.079
of dollars are involved. It's seeking
to change the American way of life and

880
01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:29.119
we can't have it in that direction. Once again, David Johnson, author,

881
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:31.680
thank you very much for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show, and David,

882
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:35.159
good luck to you and all your
ventures. Thank you so much and

883
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:39.399
thank you again for having me.
God bless America. Let's continue with more.

884
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:45.199
And it is sad because follow the
money, like fellow travelers, have

885
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:51.479
the same philosophies and ideas and I
love the analogy to walmartin Bentonsville. Some

886
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:56.279
company, little company shows up to
get shelf space. But to get the

887
01:13:56.279 --> 01:14:00.760
shelf space, wink wink, non
nod, you have to have the housekeeping

888
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:05.039
seal of approval and then you'll get
business. Wow. Oh, let's continue.

889
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:15.680
Bill Cunningham, the Great American live
with you every Sunday night. Now

890
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:20.199
I Bill Cunningham, the Great American. You know these things always follow the

891
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:26.479
money. How many millions of dollars
is Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc.

892
01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:33.479
The Black Lives Matter movement? How
much money have they made? Millions

893
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:39.840
and millions? Follow the money,
nothing but money and it's paid for and

894
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:46.319
black lives at antire organization. The
founders are now multi millionaires and it's a

895
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:51.760
con job and so many colleges universities. One of the saddest parts he discussed

896
01:14:53.640 --> 01:15:00.000
is the fact that the diversity con
has permeated itself deep deep in the corporate

897
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:05.399
America and that one must play the
diversity line DEI line in order to get

898
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:12.039
business anywhere. And that is extremely
sad. They have the large multinational companies

899
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:18.680
demanding that this critical race theory,
teaching employees that six month old babies can

900
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:24.640
be racist things of that ridiculous character. It's a con job, and it's

901
01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:29.520
happening, and it continues to happen, which is the miseducation and the misappropriation

902
01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:33.520
of time for this ridiculous theories.
Let's continue with more coming up next as

903
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:39.560
one of my favorites the Congressman Tom
Massey of the great State of Kentucky.

904
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:45.079
Always interesting Bill Cunning into Great American
Coming up later, Also is Carrie Slanton

905
01:15:45.520 --> 01:16:15.359
Bill Cunning into Great American with you
every Sunday Night, Willie Brock You by

906
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:20.720
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907
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:26.720
stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized

908
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:31.239
as radio's best, the recipient of
not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards

909
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:36.199
for he is broadcast excellence, the
one and only the old cunning head fake

910
01:16:36.279 --> 01:16:41.399
things for happening after the Tuesday debacle
in the state of Ohio. And joining

911
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:45.520
you and I now is Congressman Thomas
Massey of Northern Kentucky, et cetera.

912
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:50.600
He's an entrepreneur, he's brilliant,
graduated from MIT. He can fix his

913
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:55.239
own cell phones for the screwdriver,
and the guy's unbelievable. I don't know

914
01:16:55.279 --> 01:17:01.239
whys in politics, but nonetheless he's
under attack by some as voting against support

915
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:05.560
for Israel in favor of Hamas.
Plus the kill switch. Put that in

916
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:08.960
the back of your mind, the
kill switch. We're going to talk about

917
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:13.119
that. But Congressman Thomas Massey,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

918
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:19.079
And can you describe why you decided
it's the only Republican and to vote against

919
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:24.039
in a sense Israel in favor of
Amas. At least that's what the commercial

920
01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:27.840
says. Yeah, well, you
know, and everything you see on TV

921
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:33.720
or listen to on the radio is
true, right, absolutely, listen listen.

922
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:39.479
I came out early on. I
condemned the attacks by Hamas. Those

923
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:45.319
are brutal and barbaric. There's no
justification for attacking innocent civilians like that whatsoever.

924
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:51.119
And I also support Israel's right to
defend itself. But in the last

925
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:58.800
week, we've voted on about a
half dozen different resolutions and whatnot, condemning

926
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:02.119
this or that and saying they support
Israel. The one that ticked them off

927
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:05.800
the most. And I suspect this
is why they're running those ads is I

928
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:12.720
did not vote to send another fourteen
point three billion dollars to in foreign aid

929
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:16.840
to Israel, and I've not voted
for foreign aid in Ukraine. I've not

930
01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:23.079
voted for foreign aid anywhere, and
the eleven years that I've been in although

931
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:27.439
there was some three point eight billion
dollars for Israel and the DoD A Probes

932
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:30.199
bill that I voted for that's sitting
over in the Senate and they're not acting

933
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:34.279
on it. But I just don't
vote for fourign eight especially when it's a

934
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:40.840
standalone package. This was fourteen point
three billion dollars. And you know there's

935
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:44.640
some who argue, well, Congress
and MASSI, this will stimulate our economy

936
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:48.399
and create jobs because they're going to
redeem those as gift certificates at Raytheon and

937
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:54.119
Lockheed Martin. I don't think,
Sony, can you tell me where the

938
01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:59.720
fourteen point three billion? And by
the way, artistically I loved ISRAELI spent

939
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.199
time I'm there in May, would
love to go back again one hundred percent

940
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:06.039
support. But if we start sending
this one hundred and six million dollars,

941
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:10.840
where does that money come? From
do we print it? We don't have

942
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:14.359
it. We're upside down two trillion
dollars. Where do we get the money?

943
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:17.920
Well, we're borrowing it right now
at five percent interest rates. That

944
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:23.239
the interest rate we pay on our
debt has about tripled in the last few

945
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:27.680
years. And we're going to have
about a trillion dollars in interest alone.

946
01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:31.119
So we don't have the money.
We're borrowing it pretty soon the borrowers,

947
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.239
the lenders aren't going to loan it
to us, and we will have to

948
01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:40.079
print it like they did during COVID. They printed five trillion dollars to fund

949
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:43.000
those bills that I voted against.
That's why you get all this inflation.

950
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.520
I say, the twelve hundred dollars
checks were the cheese and the trap to

951
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:50.000
get people to go along with it. But it's going to cause more inflation

952
01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:54.439
here at home. We're not even
protecting our own borders. No we should.

953
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:58.840
We're not even spending a third of
that on our own border. This

954
01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:01.079
it's ridiculous. So and where does
it go? Well, you know,

955
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:05.359
I talked to a friend who's who
immigrated from Israel to the United States.

956
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:10.319
He's a constituent. He said,
part of The problem is there anti gun

957
01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:14.319
in Israel now, right, and
that if they had the equivalent of the

958
01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:16.520
Second Amendment, a lot of this
could have been stopped. In fact,

959
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:23.199
some of it was stopped by armed
citizens who saw what was happening and came

960
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:27.279
together, or they may have gotten
much further into the country. Yeah,

961
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:30.960
and it's ridiculous. Two percent of
Israelis were authorized at home to have a

962
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.439
weapon, two percent when almost all
of them spent two to four years in

963
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:38.720
the military. But there was an
idea that we got the IDF, they'll

964
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:44.359
protect you. And now they're handing
out handing out to guns like popsicles in

965
01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:46.960
July, because now anybody that wants
a permit to have a weapon in their

966
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.279
home, they're saying, okay,
take it all. So to go back

967
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:55.319
to the foreign to the spending in
Israel of one hundred and six billion between

968
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.800
all the entities, the reason you
voted against it is number one, we

969
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.439
can't afford at Number two in the
Senate, there's about three or four billion

970
01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:05.520
dollars sitting there ready to give to
Israel anyway. And number three, you

971
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:10.840
might recall a couple of days ago
in the thirty year Treasury auction. They

972
01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:14.520
had to be shut down because there
weren't enough buyers for the thirty year treasury

973
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:17.319
note that got up to close to
five percent of the thirty year And there's

974
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:20.920
a little bit of a sense that, you know what, two trillion dollars

975
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:26.079
we're going to borrow this year again, this fiscal year, which we don't

976
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:30.039
have never going to pay back.
It's going to be forty trillion dollars by

977
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:33.479
the end of this decade, forty
trillion dollars. We're going to spend about

978
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:39.279
one trillion dollars a year just an
interest, which is about twenty five percent

979
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:43.199
of all the money collected from all
the Americans and tax receipts. We pay

980
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:47.199
about four trillion in taxes and we
spend six trillion Thomas Massey, how long

981
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:49.640
can that continue? Are we going
to become the wear mark of the late

982
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:56.560
nineteen thirties where it'll take a wheelbarrow
to buy a loaf of bread. What

983
01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:59.920
you suggest is true. And by
the way, the debt to GDP ratio

984
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:04.239
in Israel is much lower than our
debt to GDP ratio, So why should

985
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:09.279
we borrow the money and with no
promise of it getting paid back? And

986
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:12.800
send it to a country that is
per capita better off than we are.

987
01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.760
That'll be my fourth reason. The
fifth reason this money is going to go

988
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:20.680
to military industrial complex. It's not
going to go to the things that they

989
01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:27.279
really need to stop sort of this
medieval type attack with you know, back

990
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:31.720
hos and trackloaders and drones and whatnot, and rifles and machetes that would you

991
01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:35.199
know that they used. They're going
to spend it. It's all. It's

992
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:41.800
basically a stimulus package for our military
industrial complex. They see it winding down

993
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:46.159
in Ukraine when you know, as
soon as Afghanistan stopped, they they they

994
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:51.119
fired up Ukraine. And now that
Ukraine looks like they they're going to have

995
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:56.319
to negotiate some kind of settlement there. They're they're looking for the next place

996
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:58.920
they're going to spend all this money. I'm not going along with it.

997
01:22:59.119 --> 01:23:02.760
I'm not going to spend them.
And for that, I've got eighty eight

998
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:08.960
thousand dollars of advertisement running against me
this week between TV and your radio station.

999
01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:12.880
The one good thing out of all
this bill is we're stimulating the local

1000
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:18.239
economy. These lobbyists who yes wrapped
me up, I think they're spending a

1001
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:20.680
lot of money at your radio station, aren't they. Yeah, yeah,

1002
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:26.399
no question. And we spoke off
the area yesterday and you took the adult

1003
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:29.880
approach and said, spend it all. Just keep spending it, and we're

1004
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:32.439
more than willing to take ads.
And it is what it is. Let's

1005
01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:35.239
move on to point number two.
And I saw this on YouTube when you

1006
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:40.560
went off on the kill switch,
and I have a fear down the road

1007
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:46.119
the direction we're headed. If the
interchangeable drill bit becomes Joe Biden or Kamala

1008
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:50.560
Harris or Gavin Newsom, whoever,
the liberal left wing Democrat takes over the

1009
01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:55.359
White House and we go four to
eight more years of the policies and the

1010
01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:59.399
kill switch is here. Can you
explain to the American people what is the

1011
01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:03.760
kill switch? So in one of
those thousand page bills that passed two years

1012
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:09.720
ago before we were in the majority, they mandated that by twenty twenty six,

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01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:14.920
all new vehicles sold in the United
States have to have an automated kill

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01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:19.000
switch. In other words, the
vehicle will monitor your driving performance and then

1015
01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:24.560
disabled the vehicle if it decides you
may be impaired, not drunk. It

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01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:30.439
says impaired. And this is different
than the breathalyzer technology that thirty one states

1017
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:32.960
have where you have to blow into
something to start your car if you've been

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01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:39.399
convicted of a DUI. That technology
already exists. This is a totally different

1019
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:45.079
technology that can disable your car while
you're driving it. Imagine you're a mom

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01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:47.720
with your kids in the car and
you pulled over for the ambulance to go

1021
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.840
by to something, and then you
swerve to miss a deer. You went

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01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:57.680
around some obstruction in the road,
and now your car shut down and you're

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01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.720
on the side of the road.
Who is going to a to get your

1024
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:02.479
appeal? Who do you appel it
to? Do you press a button and

1025
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:09.119
a lawyer comes on from the Department
of Homeland Security or something? And the

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01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:12.479
data? Are they the data is
clearly going to be stored in your car.

1027
01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:16.840
Who has access to that? Do
they need a warrant? How's it

1028
01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:20.800
going to work? Is it going
to use video cameras that monitor your face

1029
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:26.880
to make sure you're looking at the
road? Does it use video cameras facing

1030
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:30.439
forward? You know, I broke
down and bought a new truck. I've

1031
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:32.399
made my old truck last twenty five
years, and I told my wife,

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01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:38.399
Okay, this thing is not reliable
to hault cattle. So that convinced you

1033
01:25:38.439 --> 01:25:42.760
I needed a new truck. This
truck tells me when it thinks I'm not

1034
01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:45.640
doing a good job of driving.
It tells me I might be sleepy.

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01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:48.840
I need to pull over. It
sets off alarm bells. What they wanted.

1036
01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:54.119
What this technology will do is tie
that to your ignition switch and shuts

1037
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:58.199
you down when the vehicle determines you're
you're not suitable for driving. What if

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01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.960
it shuts you down on a railroad
track coming in coming into the station.

1039
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:05.159
Miami Avenue, which is close to
our station, is an obstacle course.

1040
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:09.640
They're putting in pipe, sewer lines, they're put in water, and you

1041
01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:11.840
wait. Then you go left,
and you go right, then you stop,

1042
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:13.600
then you go left, you go
right, then you speed up,

1043
01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:15.560
then you stop, then you go
left. And I went to a stop

1044
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:18.239
sign and turn right. I ran
into another sewer district truck had to go

1045
01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:26.920
left if my blazer determined that I
was impaired. Uh. And this kill

1046
01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:30.479
switch is not breathing your air.
It is simply monitoring whether you're swerving or

1047
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:35.119
going too fast. And it shuts
off the car. Correct, And they

1048
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:39.800
also, by the way, they've
included another part of that bill that has

1049
01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:44.560
technology to monitor the air in the
car, not the driver's air, but

1050
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:48.079
the air in the car. What
if you're the designated driver for three people,

1051
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:51.079
you're trying to get home from the
bar in the car, you know,

1052
01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:55.560
having helped you, the car is
going to shut down because it also

1053
01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:59.720
it also says they have to have
that technology. What about marijuana? You

1054
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:03.800
know, the Buckeye State joined twenty
four others in allowing the marijuana use.

1055
01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:09.000
And I would imagine people are going
to get in the car and I would

1056
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:13.279
imagine, you know, driving drunk
under the influence is not good. But

1057
01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:15.680
nonetheless, if you have a half
of a one or if you have one

1058
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.319
or two beers, you're not impaired. You're under the limit. What about

1059
01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:24.239
that? Well, listen, if
they come up with technology that sniffs for

1060
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:27.439
marijuana and shuts your car down,
you won't be able to drive through Washington,

1061
01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:31.359
DC with the windows down because every
corner in Washington, DC smells like

1062
01:27:31.479 --> 01:27:40.680
pot. Well, Congressman, this
kill switch technology is right out of animal

1063
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:45.000
farm right at A nineteen eighty four. This is big brother determining whether or

1064
01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:48.239
not you can even drive. And
I can imagine the false positives the kill

1065
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:53.520
switch may activate when it shouldn't be
activated in the middle of nowhere, in

1066
01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:56.840
the hills of Utah or Colorado.
Suddenly you're in the middle of nowhere in

1067
01:27:56.880 --> 01:28:00.600
Montana visiting the Yellowstone and all of
a sudden you're stopped. And how do

1068
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:04.159
you say, okay, turn it
back on at two o'clock in the morning,

1069
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:10.039
or a trucker trunckers So wait a
minute, think of the false positives,

1070
01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:14.479
and they're going to have to check
you to know if your driving conditions

1071
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:17.079
are suitable for where you are on
the road. This is why this week

1072
01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:23.800
I offered that amendment to defund this
mandate. So this was my legislative fix

1073
01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:28.079
for this, was to defund the
entire manday. Now, it would only

1074
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:30.359
defund it for one year because the
spending's for one year. But would you

1075
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:38.319
believe nineteen Republicans voted to keep this
kill switch mandate. And even though I

1076
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:42.399
got two Democrats to cross over,
believe it or not, AOC voted for

1077
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:46.039
my amendment because she was worried about
the civil liberties aspect of this. You

1078
01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:49.800
see, you are voting with AOC, That one AAD. You know what?

1079
01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:53.920
I wait, here's what I told
her. I talked to her on

1080
01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:57.039
the floor. Oh, I got
you know they're running I told AOC.

1081
01:28:57.119 --> 01:29:00.399
I said, they're running eighty eight
thousand dollars of ads. This can my

1082
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:02.600
district saying I always vote with you. I said, it's about time you

1083
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:08.600
vote with me once and she said, I am I'm not. I know

1084
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:14.159
she was surprised by the AD.
So what can we do to encourage you

1085
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:18.920
and these other dozen and a half
Republicans to give us autonomy and freedom?

1086
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:24.680
That DUIs are going down? The
smoking upot in the car is not a

1087
01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:28.560
big issue. It shouldn't happen.
But I don't want the government monitoring my

1088
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:32.840
driving. And the next step will
be, of course, to monitor the

1089
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:38.039
thermost out in your house, because
all of us have smart thermostouts. What

1090
01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:42.199
about that? Or if you,
you know, during COVID, if you

1091
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:46.319
haven't passed the test or aren't vaccinated, well you're now a vector and we

1092
01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:50.960
don't want you to be mobile,
so they could shut down I mean what

1093
01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:54.760
I'm saying, people are gonna say, oh, you sound like a conspiracy

1094
01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:59.319
theorist congresson nacy. No, I'm
not. Our governor went to churches and

1095
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:02.039
wrote down life plate numbers during COVID. He sent the state troopers to do

1096
01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:06.880
it. If you went to church
during his order not to go anywhere,

1097
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:10.880
you can be darn sure they will
use this to stop these cars. And

1098
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:15.359
they'll say it's a national emergency.
So what can you do? Yes,

1099
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:21.239
yes, please, I don't know. I don't want to call them out

1100
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:25.960
that. You can go to my
social media accounts. It's at Rep.

1101
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:31.279
Thomas Massey. You could search for
the hashtag sassy with Massy if you want,

1102
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:35.359
because I also use that, and
find the list of the nineteen who

1103
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:42.319
voted against this and let them know
that you do not want Orwell's future.

1104
01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:46.000
Tell them nineteen eighty four was not
an instruction manual for Congress. You know.

1105
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:49.720
I said this on the air,
and three or four years ago,

1106
01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:57.119
in March of twenty twenty, the
federal government designated me as the designated survivor

1107
01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:02.319
that I would be at this at
our great stations underneath the transmitter, broadcasting

1108
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:08.760
necessary information because of the familiarity of
my voice in the Midwest, and at

1109
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:13.000
one point it got to the idea
that are we going to shut down the

1110
01:31:13.079 --> 01:31:17.920
highways if people don't pay attention and
stay home. And unfortunately, Americans complied,

1111
01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:21.319
from California to New York, from
Michigan all the way to Texas.

1112
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:26.720
Generally, Americans complied and they stayed
off the roads and stayed home. The

1113
01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:30.840
next pandemic. With this technology in
place, you don't need a designated survivor.

1114
01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:35.039
All you need is to kill switch
to turn off the vehicles. And

1115
01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:39.720
next up will the Department of Energy
wants to keep your house at seventy six

1116
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:43.399
degrees in the summertime and sixty six
degrees in the winter, and you can't

1117
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:47.680
go above that. Imagine what's coming. Well, the government already claims to

1118
01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:50.880
have the right to have an Internet
kill switch where they can shut down the

1119
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:58.680
Internet if they think it's important for
national security. So that's a concern.

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01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:00.439
And oh, by the way,
this week, this just came out this

1121
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:10.039
week, the Stanford Virality Project under
subpoena, they released documents that show that

1122
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:16.000
the US government was using Stanford Observatory
to censor me and my tweets during COVID.

1123
01:32:16.439 --> 01:32:24.720
So the US government's censorship industrial complex
was actively censoring a US Congressman's Twitter

1124
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:30.680
account and Facebook account during COVID for
true things I posted. I referenced studies

1125
01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:35.960
on natural immunity, and they were
the US government executive branch using these third

1126
01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:42.159
party groups were getting the signal back
to social media to shut me down,

1127
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:45.520
and they did. Can you imagine
what they would do to some ordinary schlep

1128
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:51.800
citizen living outside Austin, Texas.
What they would do. They would shut

1129
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:57.640
so they can keep you in your
home, Demand the temperature inside your house,

1130
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:00.600
kill switch on your vehicles. You
know your role, and shut your

1131
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:08.359
mouth either taking away your wood stoves
too. That's how you get your gas

1132
01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:11.600
is done. You can't use would
well Thomas Massey, I'm glad to hear

1133
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.479
that you're against Amas, you're against
beheading babies, and you're in favor of

1134
01:33:15.560 --> 01:33:18.000
Israel. But however, the funding
of that, we have a debt crisis

1135
01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:21.199
coming in this country and that will
add to it, especially when there's four

1136
01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:26.439
billion dollars in the Senate waiting to
go to Israel anyway, So correct,

1137
01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:31.840
Thomas an, I go ahead.
Israel's right to defend itself and condemn the

1138
01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:38.920
barbaric attacks of Moss and I hope
you make your station does well running those

1139
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:43.479
ads. I don't care about the
ads. I think it's a stupid waste

1140
01:33:43.479 --> 01:33:45.560
of their money. And I'm glad
it's going to fund your your salary and

1141
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:50.720
your airtime to get the truth out. Me too. Congressman, you're the

1142
01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:54.600
best. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Congressman. All right,

1143
01:33:55.039 --> 01:34:00.800
let's get that's the legendary Tom Massey
in Northern District of Kentucky. That's wonderful.

1144
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:03.319
He's brilliant. He's an MIT scientist
and he's in government, and he's

1145
01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:09.119
applying human principles to federal government activities. And the two don't fit. Bill

1146
01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:14.359
Cunningham, The Grand American Live with
You every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham.

1147
01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:19.359
Congressman Thomas Massey comes from a different
way of thinking of things as an engineer,

1148
01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:24.840
etc. What that guy wants to
do is be consistent in when he

1149
01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:29.520
takes a vote. He's voted against
every foreign eight package since he's been in

1150
01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:32.279
the Congress because he's at number one, we can't afford it. Number two,

1151
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:36.840
we have needs at home. How
refreshing coming up next to his author

1152
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:44.720
Carrie Sloan. She's executive director of
Crime Research for John Watt's Crime Research Center

1153
01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:49.039
dot org. Difficult issue, that
is, why are more and more women

1154
01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:56.079
gunning up getting training? If permits
are required, getting the permits, how

1155
01:34:56.119 --> 01:34:59.640
come is more dangerous in our society
to be a woman. And if you're

1156
01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:03.840
a woman, and should you be
prepared to defend yourself, especially against domestic

1157
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:11.079
violence, of which she had a
terrible circumstance personally with her domestic violence case.

1158
01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:13.720
And you're going to hear about it
in a few minutes, so let's

1159
01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:18.159
continue Bill Cunningham, the Great American
with you and other great Americans every single

1160
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.880
by Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the possession of guns

1161
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:41.039
able to defend yourself and proper circumstances
is a critical issue, especially with so

1162
01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:45.159
much ramp and crime happening thither and
fro everywhere. There were so many Israelis

1163
01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:49.399
that were not permitted to have a
private firearm in their home to help defend

1164
01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:54.199
themselves, and that certainly has now
been corrected, and so many cities are

1165
01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:59.560
completely out of control. Police departments
are collapsing. When I see what happens

1166
01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:02.560
in Oakland. Your home can be
burglarized, your business, arm robbery,

1167
01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:06.560
whatever, and police don't show up. They they eventually a few hours later

1168
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:11.319
might drop by and say, look, you're too busy. And so nine

1169
01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:15.520
to one one calls were not being
answered. There's a lot of arm robberies,

1170
01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:19.399
home invasions happening everywhere. If somebody
gets shot inappropriately, who knows,

1171
01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:24.720
riots may break out. It's almost
critical that as individual Americans, under the

1172
01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:28.119
Second Amendment, we should have the
right to defend ourselves. So a few

1173
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:31.640
days ago the US Supreme Court took
up a case oral arguments, and it

1174
01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:38.239
appeared that the liberal and the conservative
justices might may side with the Biden administration

1175
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:44.159
that the nineteen ninety four federal law
is in line with the practice of disarming

1176
01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:48.119
dangerous people and does not violate individual's
Second Amendment rights. Now that's to be

1177
01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:51.439
determined, of course, the case
likely will not be released until May or

1178
01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:56.840
June of next year. But what
it does do is say to someone who

1179
01:36:56.880 --> 01:37:00.640
may be subject to a domestic violence
order that may be accurate or not,

1180
01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:04.359
that their Second Amendment of rights go
poof. And they stays that way for

1181
01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:08.560
quite a period of time. And
then eventually, if you're convicted, you

1182
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:13.279
may have other difficulties ever getting your
firearms back. So Carrie Sloan, she's

1183
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:18.039
a fine American Executive director for Education
for the Crime Prevention Research Center at dot

1184
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.119
org. And Carrie Sloan, welcome, I think for the first time to

1185
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:26.119
the Bill Cunningham Show. And Carriy, can you tell the American people your

1186
01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:30.159
personal experiences that you have in this
regard? Well, I am a domestic

1187
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:34.399
violence survivor, and so, of
course I hold a very controversial opinion in

1188
01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:42.199
personal opinion based on facts. In
this particular case, as someone who had

1189
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:46.359
the justice system failed me. At
prosecutor dropped my abuser's sell any charges to

1190
01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:50.560
a misdemeanor and then offered him a
plea bargain to a diversion agreement. And

1191
01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:55.000
then law enforcement officers, as I
stood in front of them with broken teeth

1192
01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:59.520
and fingerprints around my neck from being
thrown around by my throat, told me

1193
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:04.920
to hide when my abuser was let
out of jail. Hide. Yes,

1194
01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:08.960
yeah, can you believe that they
told me to hide? They said,

1195
01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:11.359
do you have a place to go
for four or five days? And I

1196
01:38:11.399 --> 01:38:15.199
said, well, confused obviously,
I said I do. And they said,

1197
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:23.880
well, we know that the chances
of violence significantly escalating after he is

1198
01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:26.960
let out of jail, right because
in his mind, my abuser's mind,

1199
01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:30.279
it's my fault that he was in
jail, so he's angry. So it's

1200
01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:35.159
a significant chance of him the violence
actually increasing. And even these law enforcement

1201
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:42.520
officers knew that that restraining order that
was put against him was not going to

1202
01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:45.560
keep me safe. So what threw
me into a lot of what I do

1203
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:47.720
is okay. So if we're not
going to keep these guys in jail like

1204
01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:50.800
RAHEMI is certainly not the guy that
we want a gun owners representing us,

1205
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:56.199
right, I mean, this dude
is terrible. That being said, CPRC,

1206
01:38:56.720 --> 01:38:59.199
you know, on our website Crimeresearch
dot Org, you can go there

1207
01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:01.359
and in our wee get free for
the piece. You can actually see the

1208
01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:08.840
data that John Locke put out showing
that domestic violence restraining orders do not keep

1209
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:14.720
domestic abuse victims from being murdered,
either with or without a gun. So

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01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:16.840
why are we continuing? I'm sorry, sir, go ahead. The point

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01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:21.199
is that I've done a lot of
legal work when it comes to representing men,

1212
01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:27.000
generally men who have been to charge
with DV and about half the time

1213
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.399
they're legit. The other half the
time, they're not legit. In your

1214
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:32.880
case, Carrie Sloan, it was
completely legit. And a piece of paper

1215
01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:36.479
is not kevlar. You can get
that piece of paper that says, okay,

1216
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:42.239
you stay away from Carrie Sloan.
It didn't. It doesn't work that

1217
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:45.640
way. Well, what happened to
you after you had to go hide somewhere?

1218
01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:49.359
Did it? Did things metastasize ever
get worse? Oh? He stalked

1219
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:54.199
me. Yeah, he absolutely stalked
me and kept me in fear and things.

1220
01:39:54.199 --> 01:39:57.279
And it wasn't actually for me,
It wasn't until I bought a shotgun

1221
01:39:57.319 --> 01:40:00.359
that the nightmares of being beaten us
up because they're it didn't work. So

1222
01:40:00.439 --> 01:40:04.520
obviously the idea of knowing that I
was able to defend myself actually wasn't just

1223
01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:09.880
tangible. It also helped me,
you know, psychologically. And that's the

1224
01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:12.760
biggest key with all of this is
you know, and this is my biggest

1225
01:40:12.800 --> 01:40:16.560
argument, and my piece in the
Wall Street Journal recently, is if if

1226
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.399
we obviously know that these guys are
going to continue to get out, and

1227
01:40:19.520 --> 01:40:23.199
these restraining orders, like you said, they're not kevilar, they're useless.

1228
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:27.000
In fact, the law enforcement officers
in not so many words, little you

1229
01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:32.000
know implied that by telling me to
hide. Why are we continuing to allow

1230
01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:40.159
these guys out? Why are we
giving them uh diversion agreements and allowing them

1231
01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:44.239
to reascend instead of keeping them in
jail where they belong? And furthermore,

1232
01:40:44.279 --> 01:40:49.760
why are we continuing to allow politicians
to create to soften the laws that benefit

1233
01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:54.960
abusers instead of victims. As far
as you're you're kind of come to this

1234
01:40:55.039 --> 01:40:58.920
from the wrong angle, from from
many perspectives. You're your teeth knocked out,

1235
01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:02.199
you could have been murdered. But
you're saying that those who are generally

1236
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:05.920
men could be a woman. But
generally men should be able to have their

1237
01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:10.880
guns. If they have a dv
against them, they should should should still

1238
01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:14.119
have guns. Is that what you're
saying? I am as the kids say,

1239
01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:16.960
that's an awfully spicy take. Yeah, yeah it is. It's a

1240
01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:20.239
very controversial take. And that's because
for two reasons. First and foremost,

1241
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:26.760
UH, when we're talking in regards
of the Raheemi case, specifically, Rashemi

1242
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:30.239
was never convicted of domestic violence.
Obviously, we have enough evidence to show

1243
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:33.520
that that's likely. But in America, you are in essential proven guilty.

1244
01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:39.800
The guilty. The only thing that
he was actually convicted of, interestingly enough,

1245
01:41:40.359 --> 01:41:45.560
was being in possession of firearms while
under a domestic violence restraining order.

1246
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:47.960
Now, of course that's what threw
all of this together in the Circuit court

1247
01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:53.680
below the Supreme Court case, whereas
the Supreme Court is obviously using the Bruin

1248
01:41:53.760 --> 01:41:59.600
test to decide whether or not the
uh, somebody like him, a dangerous

1249
01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:01.960
individual well should be able to own
firearms. But at the end of the

1250
01:42:02.039 --> 01:42:09.159
day, he got the firearms regardless
of being a prohibited person. Law enforcement

1251
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:14.520
and even you know some justices and
people politicians, they know that protection orders

1252
01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:18.079
aren't going to save us. We
have data proving it. So we need

1253
01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:21.880
to change our paradigm and help people
understand nobody is coming to protect us,

1254
01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:27.640
and we must embrace self defense and
learn how to use a gun, especially

1255
01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:31.199
for women domestic violence syctoms, because
it is the most effective self defense tool

1256
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:38.000
available to us, no question women, especially because of the size deferential to

1257
01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:42.920
have a Smith and Wesson. I
prefer for a woman a six shot,

1258
01:42:42.920 --> 01:42:45.800
a small one, and maybe a
snubnose thirty eight. Don't it your chamber

1259
01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:48.439
around and you're good to go,
but let's go back a little bit,

1260
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:53.359
kind of get me to the point. Now you're a victim of DV.

1261
01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:56.680
Terrible DV on one hand, but
on the other hand, you say,

1262
01:42:56.680 --> 01:43:00.560
well, my abusers should have the
right to keep his guns. Explain kind

1263
01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:03.560
of put the bridge between those two
things, well, the short of it,

1264
01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:06.359
and to keep it succinct for the
brevity of your show. It is

1265
01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:13.079
not my responsibility to decide, or
the government's responsibility, or a politician's responsibility

1266
01:43:13.359 --> 01:43:17.960
to decide who has truly been reformed
or who gets to the right to own

1267
01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:24.399
a gun and who doesn't. It
is our responsibility as individuals to learn how

1268
01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:27.560
to protect ourselves and be better trained
than those people that want to do it

1269
01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:30.920
harm because the system has already proven
that it's not going to do anything to

1270
01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:34.319
protect us. We know law enforcement
is never going to be there on time,

1271
01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:39.319
so we need even in the best
case scenario, they still can't you

1272
01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:43.359
get there on time. And Supreme
Court is already ruled on several occasions that

1273
01:43:43.479 --> 01:43:47.359
law enforcement has no legal obligation to
protect them. So we must start helping

1274
01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:54.399
women embrace self defense. We must
teach them that they can become confident in

1275
01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:59.000
being able to defend themselves and not
have to take away the rights of individuals

1276
01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:01.800
because any of these laws that are
put in place that are put in place

1277
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:08.720
to keep guns away from people like
Raheemi also can be used against people that

1278
01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:12.680
are in essent divorced. Proceedings to
seek this a lot, but interestingly enough,

1279
01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:16.720
a lot of people don't realize that
abuser will use these laws against their

1280
01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:21.039
victims as well to his red flag
laws, restraining orders and so to get

1281
01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:28.479
their victim disarmed so they had easier
access to them without a fear of being

1282
01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:31.720
killed themselves when they go to attack
or stock their abusers for their victims.

1283
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:38.119
And in the case before the Supreme
Court on Tuesday in twenty nineteen, Zaki

1284
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:43.920
Raheemi assaulted his girlfriend in Arlington,
Texas and threatened to shoot her if she

1285
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:48.039
told anyone, which led to a
restraining order that suspended his handgun license and

1286
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:51.800
priveted him from possessing firearms. Of
course, he did not adhere to that

1287
01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:57.000
order and then threaten another woman with
a gun and then within two months open

1288
01:44:57.119 --> 01:45:00.560
fire in public five times. It's
currently locked up, thank god. So

1289
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:04.680
this is a bad case that might
in your perspective may make for bad law,

1290
01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:09.920
but nonetheless that's a terrible fact pattern. Yeah, it is, you

1291
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.640
know. And like I said before, this is like the one as a

1292
01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:15.039
gun owner you know that works in
the gun industry as well. I am

1293
01:45:15.039 --> 01:45:19.319
a fire arm instructure. This is
the worst example of somebody that we would

1294
01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:23.760
want to representing us. But at
the end of the day, the bottom

1295
01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:27.920
line is that the data proves that
the restraining order isn't going to do anything.

1296
01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:31.920
Excuse me, He's a perfect example
that it doesn't solve the problem.

1297
01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:35.760
He obviously was able to obtain a
gun even being a prohibited person. But

1298
01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:41.039
at the end of the day,
in America, he is a United States

1299
01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:44.399
citizen, and in America you are
innocent until proven guilty. And those guns

1300
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:47.039
were initially taken away from him without
new profits. All of those laws that

1301
01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:51.680
are put in place that are intended
to protect abuse that can be used against

1302
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:56.920
victims by their abusers. And that
is the biggest reason why I do not

1303
01:45:57.039 --> 01:46:01.199
support these types of laws. If
he is really a problem, if he

1304
01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:05.600
is really a menace to society,
he should not be back out on the

1305
01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:11.760
streets and he should be kept in
jail period. Bingo that's it, because

1306
01:46:11.880 --> 01:46:15.079
that little piece of paper might be
an accelerant and his viewpoint to go after

1307
01:46:15.239 --> 01:46:19.279
even harder. And the best thing
a woman can do is get a snub

1308
01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:24.479
nose thirty eight revolver, and all
of a sudden you have power in your

1309
01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:28.720
own hands, a better security system
because the police are not going to protect

1310
01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:30.800
you. They have no duty to
protect you. They do their best under

1311
01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:35.319
difficult circumstances. But the best protection
you can have is not a piece of

1312
01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:40.279
paper. It's a thirty eight.
That's the best protection you can have.

1313
01:46:41.319 --> 01:46:44.399
Well, personally, I think it's
a SIG three sixty five to thirteen rounds.

1314
01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:48.520
But yes, woman, I looked
at that, and I have a

1315
01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:51.800
P two thirty eight and a P
nine thirty eight, and I didn't think

1316
01:46:51.800 --> 01:46:55.680
I needed that many more rounds.
But I love I love six hours.

1317
01:46:56.720 --> 01:46:59.520
Yeah, I too. I have
one with me all the time except when

1318
01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:01.880
I'm at work. But nonetheless I
have them. And but it takes a

1319
01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:06.079
little bit of bodily strength to chamber
around unless you keep one chamber and keeps

1320
01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:11.239
the safety on. I love that
weapon because the safety on is a wonderful

1321
01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:14.479
feature. But the chamber around and
walk around with a hammer cocked. I

1322
01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:16.239
don't want to do that, and
so it might take it might be more

1323
01:47:16.239 --> 01:47:20.159
difficult for a woman to chamber around. Correct, No, it's not.

1324
01:47:20.439 --> 01:47:24.199
You may just have to be tought
properly. I'm a firearms instructor as well,

1325
01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:26.239
and they do. By the way, I have that two thirty eight

1326
01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:30.039
total digression from our conversation that two
thirty eight is a fantastic little carry gun.

1327
01:47:30.279 --> 01:47:34.880
I love it. I love it. Yet I apologize to go back

1328
01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:41.119
on topic not number one. Uh
you're saying, and John, you're with

1329
01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:44.359
John Lott in one of the one
of the great minds when it comes to

1330
01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:48.960
uh gun rights that if somebody is
accused by someone else of committing some wrongful

1331
01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:56.840
act to take away fundamental constitutional rights, which is a restraining order dealing with

1332
01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:00.800
TV, and you give up the
rights without trial, that's a problem.

1333
01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:02.880
Is that your point? It is
a huge Yeah, it is a huge

1334
01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:06.920
problem. And I mean not in
the fact that this guy didn't get you

1335
01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:10.600
know, do process. This is
an underlying issue to the Supreme Court case.

1336
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:12.920
Right Like I said, it's a
separate, separate reason it's gone to

1337
01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:16.399
the Supreme Court. And I wish
that I could tell you that I was

1338
01:48:16.399 --> 01:48:18.720
a judge of which way it's going
to go, And I can't even tell

1339
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:23.359
you because, to be in my
humble opinion, I don't feel like Raheeman

1340
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:27.479
lawyer did a very good job in
that. But that's a different conversation.

1341
01:48:27.600 --> 01:48:30.920
But at the end of the day, one of the things that threw me

1342
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:35.439
into this entire gun rights thing was
a law in Washington State called sixteen thirty

1343
01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:39.760
nine. A lot of people knew
about it, and where when you sign

1344
01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:44.359
your background check, you're forty four
to seventy three to have a background check

1345
01:48:44.399 --> 01:48:46.000
on It was a waiver of your
medical record, and somebody could be denied

1346
01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:49.640
the purchase of a fire arm based
on what they looked what they were seeing

1347
01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:51.920
in the medical record. And you
and I both know they weren't looking for

1348
01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:57.359
a broken arm. They were looking
for some reason to justify a red flag

1349
01:48:57.439 --> 01:48:59.760
law on someone later. And I
thought, well, we'll wait a minute.

1350
01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:01.239
You know that's going to prevent women
from going to get therapy that are

1351
01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:05.760
abuse for guns and so on.
Well, that just leads back into everything

1352
01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:11.600
that is related to this case in
terms of Brahemi and these restraining orders.

1353
01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:15.920
You know, my ex and my
abuser stopped me on that restraining order.

1354
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:18.600
He figured out how to do it
just to skirt the law. And you

1355
01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:21.079
know where he may obtained guns,
you know, if he was a prohibit

1356
01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:25.119
person a bill. Tell me how
he got a gun? How did that

1357
01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:27.840
possibly happen? Bad guy? He
mean, the bad guy got a gun.

1358
01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:30.840
Weird, Huh. It may happen
all the time. I'm not sure.

1359
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.239
But if he if for Hemi,
if he wanted the gun, he

1360
01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:38.560
would get a gun. And that
little piece of paper is completely irrelevant.

1361
01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:41.439
And uh, well, we'll see
what happens. What is your website.

1362
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:45.520
It's crimes Crime Research Center dot org. Has had to get all the information

1363
01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:53.680
objectively correct Crimeresearch dot org. And
you can find the Amigas brief on probably

1364
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.479
the homepage. I believe it's still
on the homepage, and that in that

1365
01:49:56.520 --> 01:50:00.880
Amikas brief is where you can find
not only our argument for this law not

1366
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:04.359
being good law and that they should
side with Forhemi, but additionally all of

1367
01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:10.640
the data and the table and research
that John Painstaking and his team painstakely put

1368
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:15.439
into proving that restraining order you do
not actually keep them safe. Now,

1369
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:17.960
what does keep you safe is a
p. Two thirty eight. Six hour

1370
01:50:18.039 --> 01:50:21.640
properly used by a woman who may
be the victim of something. Now that

1371
01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:26.319
will keep that will keep you safe. Not a piece of paper. Man,

1372
01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:28.960
here's a piece of paper. Don't
beat me, you don't hurt me.

1373
01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:31.239
No, here's a six hour get
ready for six, get ready for

1374
01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:35.520
six coming your way. Now,
that'll stop it right there, or prevented

1375
01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:39.079
from happening all together. If they
know you got it. Yeah, Well,

1376
01:50:39.279 --> 01:50:42.279
well, forewarned is forearmed. But
you got to be all right.

1377
01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:44.920
You got to look after your own
self much like your own health. Got

1378
01:50:44.960 --> 01:50:48.359
to look after your own health well. Once again Carrie Sloan of Executive Director

1379
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:55.239
for Education the Center of the Crime
Prevention Research John Lott's organization, once again

1380
01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:58.119
carry Sloan, thank you for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. Will do

1381
01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:00.920
it again. Thank you, Kerry, Thank you, sir, Thank your

1382
01:51:01.039 --> 01:51:04.199
Let's continue with more if a line
ever becomes available, which it never does.

1383
01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:09.159
Eight six six six four seven seven
three three seven. Bill Cunningham,

1384
01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:12.880
the Great American with you every Sunday
it happens to you. Listen to the

1385
01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:25.680
Sorry Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Good to heavy with me. This

1386
01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:30.720
evening, and it was said we
started off a couple hours ago with Congressman

1387
01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:35.880
brad Winstrip of Ohio, one of
the top ten most most influential and powerful

1388
01:51:35.920 --> 01:51:42.960
congressman announcing announced it on Thursday first
interviews here that he can't take it anymore,

1389
01:51:43.279 --> 01:51:45.960
wants to spend more time with his
family. I get that completely.

1390
01:51:45.640 --> 01:51:51.920
Plus I want to thank David Johnson, author of the Diversity con how DEI

1391
01:51:53.840 --> 01:51:59.640
is convincing large numbers of Americans that
six month old babies and children can be

1392
01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:04.279
racist. You have to raise an
anti racist baby. And for some reason,

1393
01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:09.560
if you have work you want to
do with some of the big multinationals

1394
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:14.560
like Target or Walmart, you have
to demonstrate, as a small provider of

1395
01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:19.399
a good or service to those large
multinationals that you're DEI compliant. So that

1396
01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:26.119
the cancer cells of diversity, equity
inclusion is now working their way down into

1397
01:52:26.159 --> 01:52:32.520
the body politic of every economic institution
in the country. And also tonight,

1398
01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:38.319
about three or four hours ago,
Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina announced that

1399
01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:44.239
he's vacating. The president will run
this year, and that leads Christy leaves

1400
01:52:44.279 --> 01:52:50.600
the governor of Florida. Of course, Ron Desandis and leads US Ambassador Hailey,

1401
01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:56.159
and of course of ak Ramaswami,
and that's about it. So it's

1402
01:52:56.399 --> 01:53:00.039
kind of getting out. It's kind
of slowing down a little bit. But

1403
01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:04.520
I know one thing that we are
in deep trouble everywhere I look. Seventy

1404
01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:10.199
seven percent of the American people say
we're on the wrong track. The college

1405
01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:15.800
campuses are erupting in violence against Jews. That thank god, winter is coming,

1406
01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:20.439
so the rioting in major cities may
go down a bit because it's too

1407
01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:25.560
cold to riot. The drudg Report
has this story tonight. By the way,

1408
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:30.039
I think largely the Drudge Report has
lost its way that many immigrants in

1409
01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:35.319
Chicago are leaving Chicago because to them
it is unpleasant and they're going to go

1410
01:53:35.359 --> 01:53:41.720
back to their home countries. So
that's the way it is well unbelievable.

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I pray to God that he's not
diverted somewhere else, because we need divine

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providence and guidance right now more than
we have in many decades. Bill cunning

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and the Great American with you every
Sunday night.