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only Bill Cunningham. All Right, Billy cunning Ahead, the Great American.
My glory be yours. Thank you for listening. This Sunday night scheduled again.
I think a great provocative radio talk show under the leadership of Danny boyd
Any Boy to any Boy. Gleason, my producer coming up later will be
one of the most influential Congressman in the Congress presently as leaving after about twelve
years of service. He announced it on Thursday. Congressman brad Winstrip of the
great State of Ohio. Might had a personal friend of mine who ran for
the office and won about twelve years ago. And it was determined by him
that he's got two children under the age of ten, and that he's a
pedietriss. He's a doctor. Retired from the military about six months ago with
the rank of colonel. So he's spent twenty five years in the military.
Was it Abu Grob treating many individuals that were hurt. And he married somewhat
later in life. And he said, you know what, when the kids
were not in school, he was able to take them with them driving from
southern Ohio to Washington back and forth. Has a nice home there. But
nonetheless, when they go into school, a father wants to spend time with
his daughter and with his son, they want to spend time together. He
wants to go to parent teacher conferences. He wanted to go to their soccer
and other games. And he was working about seven and eighty hours a week.
He was picked by politico dot com as one of the top ten US
Congressmen for effectiveness that people pay attention to him. He's on the Ways and
Means Committee on the Intelligence Committee. He's also chair of the COVID nineteen Origin
Subcommittee, and he's co chair of the Doctor's Committee in the US House of
Representatives. And he works about seventy to eighty hours a week. And he
said, you know what, I want to go to parent teacher conferences.
I want to watch a soccer game, and I get it I understand it
completely. So he's coming up later to talk about that. Also later on
will be one of my favorite Congressman, Thomas Massey of Kentucky. He voted
against. He was the only Republican that voted against the resolution that involved four
and a to Israel. We're going to ask him why. I think I
know the answer, which is he's voted against foreign aid for the last twelve
years he's been in the Congress. He votes against it every time, no
matter what it is, because he said, we can't afford it. We
have needs here. What a refreshing idea. Coming up later and also later
on will be David Johnson, author of The Diversity con which the billions of
dollars and I read his book and I didn't didn't know this, But let's
say your Walmart or your Target or your best Buy, one of the big
ones multinational. Every day, every month of every year, there are pitches
made to Walmart in Bentonville, Arkansas from small supplier, small manufacturing concerns who
go in there to try to get stock space for their product at Walmart,
which can be a life changer. And so Walmart and Target and best Buy
and all the rest have, in a sense good housekeeping seal of approofd that
you have to participate in DEI diversity equity and inclusion programs in your small company
to be a favored supplier. So it's made clear in the beginning that you
have to have coursework for your employees to take preaching the gospel of diversity,
equity and inclusion. It's not they demand equal outcomes. They want to know
how many of your employees are gay, how many are LGBTQ plus plus plus,
how many are persons of color, how many are disabled, how many
are male, how many are female, how many of the origins, et
cetera, et cetera, in order to do business with multinationals. I had
no idea it was that bad. But you and I are going to spend
time with David Johnson and Dennis Prager, who's fabulous wrote the forward to his
book The Diversity con and one of the questions is can a six month old
baby be racist? Here's yes, living in this culture hated by the radical
left and by many Democrats. Yes. And also later on as Carrie Sloan,
she is the executive director of Crime Research Center run by John Lott,
to talk about how in these difficult days it is almost critical, critical,
not especially women guard and protect themselves because cops will not be there. But
before we go much further, it was announced earlier today that the Republican field
has down. Senator Tim Scott went on the Fox News about two hours ago
and said he's dropping out. Did a show with Trey Gowdi. And one
has been a US Congressman from South Carolina, Trey Gowdy. And of course
Senator Scott's been a senator for about ten years, has no plans to endorse
anyone else. And so now it's going to come down to Ron De Santis
and Haley still in it, Chris Christi is in it for reasons unclear to
me completely and of course to Donald who's going to be the nominee of the
Republican Party. And so we'll see what happens down the road. But one
more is gone out of the Republican field. So as we talked tonight,
there was a report out of the BBC that the Israeli Army provided for the
generation of power in some of these Gaza hospitals, hundreds of gallons of fuel
that after they were dropped off, they were in the smaller containers. They
were about twenty five gallons. The Hamas radicals murderers came and took the fuel
and whatever's left off of the hospitals to help the gaz of people, especially
those who are mortally wounded us that shields by Hamas, they steal the product,
which is what they've done for the past eighteen years. That is the
hundreds of millions of dollars given to Gaza and the so called the plo It
has been stolen by a moss and used to build three to five hundred miles
of steel reinforced tunnels, to buy guns, to buy holwarzers, to buy
missiles, to buy artillery shells, to spread a gospel of hate. And
so that's not well covered by the mainstream media because it doesn't fit everything that
fits they promote. If it doesn't fit the media diet tribe, they don't
promote it. And so I'm going to share my thoughts with Congressman Winstrup in
about an hour or so. But as a young man in college nineteen sixty
eight, I thought the country was going through a second American Revolution. We
had been in the Vietnam War actively for about six or seven years, They
were about, I don't know, two or three thousand every month killed in
and around Danang and South Vietnam. Body bags were everywhere. College campuses regularly
erupted, administration buildings were taken over. Kent State was about to occur.
Sixty eight, you had the terrible assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy and Martin
Luther King Junior. Riots broke out once again in every major American city.
Cops are being killed. The Democratic Convention took place in August and Chicago,
much like this year, riots occurring. I thought I was a young man,
like twenty years old, but I said, are you kidding me?
I'm living through an American revolution. And the little city of Cincinnati we had
riots, of course. And at that point I was a sophomore at Xavier
University and I was the resident manager of a small apartment building in which Xavier
students lived, and I was a resident manager. I get a call as
the riots are ongoing and Xavier is not in the best part of town,
and he said to me, Bill, can you go out on the front
lawn, which was about twenty by thirty feet. I know you have a
twelve gate shotgun and sit there and dissuade individuals from fire bombing my apartment building
that you live in. So I said, yes, sir, I'll do
that. So I put in my hands a twelve gate shotgun with two shelves,
got a little bit of a lounge chair, went out on the lawn
about twenty feet from the sidewalk, and you could hear gunfire. Looking about
a mile to my left, I could see the fires burning in parts of
Cincinnati. All hell was breaking loose, and at some point a police officer,
Cincinnati cop pulled up on Dana Avenue, put on his lights and looked
at me. I was like twenty feet twenty five feet from the street.
And looked at me and said, young man, what the hell are you
doing. I said, well, Sarah, I'm the resident manager of the
apartment building, and the guy the owns that wants me to sit here to
guard the building. He looks at me and says, get your ass back
in your apartment, lock the doors. If they see you there, you'll
be fresh meat. Get the hell out. So I said, yes,
sir. So I went back into my apartment, called the owner, told
him what he said. He said, well, just guard it the best
you can There were riots everywhere every summer sixty five, sixty six, sixty
seven, sixty eight, sixty nine, seventy seventy one, nineteen seventy two,
nineteen seventy three, assassinations, Vietnam War fifty eight thousand killed, some
say murdered. Lost that war, of course, two hundred and fifty thousand
wounded, three hundred thousand Vietnamese killed. And then we had the impeachment of
Richard Nixon, who didn't fit in with what Washington wanted from a Republican.
He'd won forty nine to fifty states in nineteen seventy two, and within two
years he's out of office. I thought, my God, were coming apart.
This is a revolution here I am in twenty three about seventy seven percent
of the American people say we're on the wrong track. Things are bad,
Something fundamentally is not working in this country. I look now at riots,
Look at that George Floyd, opportunistic street criminals who torched many parts of many
major American cities, billions of dollars in damages. Dozens are killed, a
couple dozen cops are killed, shots are fired every which way, breakdown of
law and order, defund the police, Black Lives Matter, et cetera.
Here we go fleecing the public for literally millions of dollars, and now we
have a completely not only corrupt, but someone who is feeble and almost insane
running the presidency. It's going to come out the next few months that we
have the most corrupt president in American history. That makes Richard Nixon look like
a boy scout. This is unbelievable, the stuff that Joe Biden, Jim
Biden, Hunter, Joe Biden and all the Bidens have monetized political office for
a long time. I'm watching. I can't believe what's going on again,
and now because of the anti Semitism present and now revealed in every major American
city, including my little Cincinnati, Ohio, where the University of Cincinnati has
an Hamas chapter at UC. I look at what's happening in Columbia, New
York, Chicago, what's happening in Austin, what's happening in Los Angeles and
Portland? Complete meltdown. The cities are in utter collapse, don't function.
I'm looking at a story here on the Drudge Report about what's happening with the
so called Venezuelans and others that show up in Chicago. In Chicago's the weather's
getting a bit, shall we say, a bit a bit cold. The
illegal immigrants are saying Chicago is so unpleasant, we want to go back home.
Fly us out him. They can't take living in Chicago as an immigrant
from El Salvador or from Venezuela. In fact, Chicago has a much higher
murder rate than any of Central American cities. Shots fired, Are you kidding
me? I would say there's more than one hundred thousand shots fired in the
city of Chicago every year. And in the city of Cincinnati there's about four
hundred people wounded every year and about eighty to ninety murdered. The number in
Chicago is off the charts. Can't live at legal immigrants. Legal immigrants say
we're out. Moody's cuts the outlook on US credit rating to negative. Our
bonds are in credit watch Thursday or Friday. They try to sell forty eight
billion dollars in thirty year bonds. There weren't enough buyers, so they took
them, took them down for a while. It's unbelievable what's happening in America
and the words of Abraham Lincoln come back to me. We are a nation
committing suicide. No foreign power could ever militarily, maybe economically, because of
what we've done on debt to overtake the United States. George Washington said at
some point that we choose to follow the divine author of our blessed religion.
We are the salt of the earth and the light of the world. If
each of us, in our own place choose to do that which is right,
we begin to change history. Are we doing what's right on the debt,
on the southern border? Are we doing what's right on college campuses?
How about public education? How about black lives? How about public education?
How about a corrupt welfare system? How about the fact that California is uninhabitable,
and the fact that Portland and Austin and Seattle or are in complete collapse.
Everywhere I look, I see disasters. And as Abraham Lincoln said,
quote, no foreign nation can ever take a step on the Blue Ridge Mountains,
or take a drink from the Ohio River, or visit the Shenandoah Valley
in a contest of a thousand years. Unless we let them do it.
A free nation will live forever free or we will die by suicide. Quote
unquote, seventy seven percent of us say we have bad vision of the future.
We're on the wrong track. And I'm looking at this and I'm going,
how in the hell did we get in this position because of corrupt,
terrible, awful political leadership. The worst we've ever had is God's attention diverted
somewhere else Where is Washington and Jefferson and Lincoln? Where is Ronald Reagan?
Where are the great leaders to lead us out of difficult circumstances that don't exist?
It is unbelievable how Americans have worked theirselves in the position. And good
politicians like brad Winstrop says, well, you know what, I'm going home.
We're going to ask him why in about forty minutes. But one of
the best congressmen in Washington, picked by Politico and the top ten chair of
this and chair of that, well respected doctor, a colonel. But he
said, I've done enough. I've got to go home. The good ones
leave, and the bad ones Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc. They
stay and make it a career, make it a life, and Fetterman,
It's unbelievable how incompetent. The leadership of this country is how terrible. The
public schools no respect for law enforcement. The majority of young Americans will not
join the military. Only nine percent of college kids support Israel's right to exist,
the great majority. When all the Jews killed, are you kidding me?
The answer is no, My God, are we in trouble? Well,
let's continue when we do. Number to call is eight six six six,
four, seven, seven three three seven have JD and call from Tampa
and Virginia many other places. And killing unborn, healthy babies causes great celebration
in Columbus, Ohio. When here in Ohio that issue one past tears of
joy, Champagne. We're gonna be able to kill more healthy unborn babies.
Yay, that sounds great. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, busy.
You know, my boss is an old Jewish carpenter and the default physician
tended to be blame the Jews. Israel is always to blame, blame the
Jews went, in doubt, blame the Jews. If the dozen or so
Muslim Arab countries in the Middle East, from Morocco to Libya to Egypt to
Iran, Iraq to Syria to Jordan Elebanon. If none of them are,
if they're completely dysfunctional, if there's no middle class, if they're run by
grand potentates and military hunt leaders, and the average person living in Libya or
Egypt, or Jordan or Syria, Iran Iraq lead miserable lives. It's terrible,
especially women. Many times fathers will sell their ten or eleven twelve year
old daughters in exchange for money to marry some fat ass forty year old for
sufficient monies. Whenever there's no functional society because of the failure of policy,
guess what blame the Jews. Israel did it. Of course they did,
always to blame. When thirty one student grew groups at Harvard, Harvard signed
quote, we the undersigned student organizations hold the Israeli regime responsible for all violence
in the Middle East. All blame the Jews. That's what's happening, not
justin Jordan or Lebanon. This is happening at Harvard, for God's sakes.
Well, let's continue with your calls. Coming up next Bill Cunningham, the
Great American with you every something else by Billy Cunningham. Let's continue and never
stop. We simply continue. The vicious anti Semitism seen around Europe and in
this country is completely disgusting, no matter what the question is that a fault
position must be blame the Jews no matter what occurs. When your Wikipedia or
look up how many Islamic terror attacks have there been in the past since nineteen
seventy nine, since the hostages were taken, and something north of fifty five
thousand separate Islamic terror attacks, killing at least three hundred thousand. Now,
the Islamic terror group could be known as ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood or Hezbolah
or Harmas, it could be the Taliban could be Al Kada, could be
Boca Haram, just come up with a name. But to kill three hundred
thousand, you would think the lack of educated college kids would understand this.
Terror attacks have taken place all over Egypt and Norway and Sweden and Nigeria and
New Zealand and Afghanistan of course, Mal Deves Iran and Iraq, in Russia,
in India and Pakistan, in England and France and Germany, and the
good Old US of A in Spain, in Canada, in Saudi Arabia and
Israel and Syria and Somalia and Belgium and Mali and the Philippines and Algeria and
Jordan and Lebanon and Turkey, et cetera, et cetera. Do you see
a pattern here? Do you understand what's happening? It is clearly true that
the great majority of Muslims here and around the world, especially here, want
nothing to do with terror. But it's also true that twenty to thirty percent
and buy into the aims of isis Hesbla and Amass And that means there's about
two to three hundred million Muslims who want to kill the Infidel. That's one
hell of a number. Israel is doing its best to save civilian lives by
dropping one million leaflets throughout Gaza, by making literal telephone calls to residence on
their phones telling them to get out, say quote, we're going to bomb
your neighborhood, please get out in the next four hours. They do that
every day. In contrast, Hamas urged the people to stay, blocks them
from leaving, steals their food and fuel, and they put up roadblocks to
maximize civilian casualties. To blame the Jews. Hamas leadership living in luxury,
and Cutter makes it very clear that they welcome the death of their own people
during a jihad. They go right to heaven with those seventy two virgins.
In short, Israel does everything in its power to minimize Sevilian casualties. Why
how Mas seeks to maximize Sivilian casualties. But guess who's guilty for all that?
Of course it's Israel, no question, On and on. In America,
Jews have done famously well. Why I have to ford disclosure. I
practiced for many years. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic. But I practiced for
many years and a so called Jewish law firm interacted completely went to a bunch
of Jewish events. My lawyer, my personal lawyer, is a Jew,
not because he's a Jew, but because he went to Brandie and he's brilliant.
Jews are hated for being rich and for being poor. Jews are hated
for being powerful they want to take over the world, and for being weak,
for being miserable, wretched. Jews are hated for being religious they think
they're better than the rest of us, and for being secular. Why don't
they try to fit in more? Jews are hated by communists and capitalists and
college students and fascist and hamas Iran Iraq, by this squad, and on
college campuses, they're hated. Jews are hated when they're victorious, like in
the four or five wars thrust upon them, and they're hated when when they're
victims. Jews are hated for not fighting back. They went to the Holocaust
as lambs and sheep. They didn't fight back. And when they do fight
back they're a victim. They're called ethnic cleansers and they commit genocide. It's
always the Jews. The Zionist thirty Jews is what you hear constantly. It's
disgusting. Jews are hated by black supremacist and by white supremacist, and by
capitalists and by college students. It's always those thirty Jews, on and on
and on because they're convenient scapegoats. Jews in this country believe in faith and
family, love of God. And every time they go one hundred years ago
into a city, suddenly there's lots of busines, Suddenly there's hospitals popping up,
like Jewish hospital. They put together if they can't get in colleges and
universities. They form their own They don't look toward government to solve their problems.
They do it themselves. They succeed because of faith and family and hard
work. That's why they succeed. So now we're in a situation where I
don't at times, I don't recognize my country. I don't know what the
hell's going on on college campuses, capitals, and at some point Joe Biden
will collapse as he's always done. He's asleep right now, he's wearing his
adult diapers to bed, and he's mentally frail and elderly incapable of discharging the
duties. The only problem is the vice president would probably be worse. There's
no way he completes the next fourteen months. It's simply not going to happen.
I'm sorry, twelve months. There's no way with his steep mental decline
to continue. Did you see him. A couple of days, He's going
to be in San Francisco with with President Zy is gonna it's gonna be embarrassing
again. If the media covered him objectively, he'd be out of office by
now. The only thing to get him out of office is if more polls
come out that show he can't beat Donald Trump, in which case the the
intelligentsia in this country will kick him out. Then put Kamala Harrison there.
Then you're gonna have real problems. My lordy, Chicago is so unpleasant.
Migrants want to go back home. They can't pay it anymore. The American
dream for them is a nightmare, unbelievable. Let's continue and coming up later
as a retiring congressman, one of the best, brad Winstrop. But he's
gonna still, he's not gonna. He's simply not going to run for reelection
and and uh next November. Also later on, as I read the book,
David Johnson's book, The Diversity con and is a con job that we've
bought and paid for. Let's go to j D in Vegas. Not heard
from him in a long time, JD and Vegas. Welcome to the Bill
Cunningham Show. JD. How are you? He well, I'm trying to
hang in there, Billy, how are you beating? Blooded and unbound?
The Bengals today looked awful. Yeah, yeah, they had another tough one,
Billy. I don't know if you remember, but a long time ago,
I think in the late fifties, Congress called in Casey Stingle and Mickey
Mantle to have a hearing on baseball's anti trust league and anti trust laws.
And Casey they asked him a question and he talked for about an hour,
and as you remember how he talked in sting Elise. Then they went to
Mickey Mantle and they asked him what he thought, and Mickey old good old
Mix says, I agree with everything Casey said. Bill, I agree with
everything you have said for the last half hour. J D. Don't you
think we have some we have some barnacles on us? And I just don't
know how America, despite the comments of Abraham Lincoln, I look at Las
Vegas and Clark County and I see the polling has the Trumps are up by
ten percentage points. How many thousands of illegals vote every year in Las Vegas.
Well, we have about four hundred thousand in population of our two point
three million in Las Vegas. That's a question that is, you know,
up for discussion. I can't give you a good answer, even though I'm
close to it. I'm close to the Republican people in the party. But
I wanted to comment on your congressman. I followed him a little bit on
your show, and I read in the paper and I was very disgusted to
hear that he's not running West trip again. You have the Republican Congress has
a very strong group of intelligent doctors and lawyers and businessmen. As in comparison
to the Senate on both sides, I could only probably name ten Republican senators
that are worthwhile. I could only name one Democrat, and he's up for
he's up in the air right now. But the Durban's and the Schumers,
and the white Houses and the Bloomenthals. I mean, there's just one despicable
senator after another. And in Congress, you know, they vote like lemmings.
Whatever Pelosi told them to do. It's always two hundred and twenty two.
Out of two hundred and twenty two, at least three Republicans stand up
their independent thinkers and they fight a little bit, and that's where we get
into our problems. But I guarantee you you put the intelligence quot in the
in the house, we are so much better than them. And you had
guys like doctor Tom out of Nebraska, he passed away. He ran for
two terms. Tom Coolberg. You had Jim de Mint in South Caroline.
He ran for two terms. To me, the Republicans run for two terms
and they either they say, let's the next guy try it, or I'm
spinning my wheels and whereas the Democrats just hang in there like the ladies and
fifty years. You know, it amazes me how Biden keeps coming up with
things that have to be taken care of and have to be done after thirty
six years in the Senate and eight years as a Vice president. He just
realized three years ago, out of all the things that have to be done,
Bill, if you're in your job for forty four years and you haven't
gotten anywhere near all the things that he's trying to do, I mean,
you're incompetent. And I have a leave now that you know. The Democrats
just just don't do their research, they don't do anything. They're just in't
there to hang on. The Republicans come up with figures and facts and what
have you, and they just get filibustered out and after a while they give
up. I mean, is Isa from California smart as a whip? Yeah?
Uh, you know that guy, the guy that was in Texas and
Trump brought him in I forget his name. Now he was an intel and
then he didn't he didn't run. But I mean, there are so many
intelligent Republican Congress people as compared to the Democrats. They give him a bunk.
Pelosi gave him a bunch of money to take back to Baltimore, Pittsburgh,
Philadelphia, Detroit, and Chicago and Billy. Where'd that money go in
one of the pockets of left wing groups to misspend and to miseducate large numbers
of individuals. It was wasted, it was given away. We have the
debt with no consequence, We have nothing benefiting. How about six trillillion dollars
was spent during the pandemic, and sadly the Trumpster had a bunch of deficit
in his four years of about seven trillion dollars. And then so when Biden
gets in here to match that spending and the money is gone and we still
we're going to pay one trillion dollars this physical year and interest on the national
debt one trillion dollars. Believe they can't even give money away without losing twenty
five or thirty five percent of it defraud And just last week I read there
are billions and billions of dollars from that money during COVID that were scammed,
and they know it, and they've made the decision not to prosecute and go
after the people because it what costs more money than they could collect. It's
unbelievable, like, for example, the money we give to Ukraine. I
wouldn't give them a dollar. I'd give them I'd give them a gun,
I'd give them bullets, but I wouldn't pay for their pensions, and I
wouldn't pay for their infrastructure. People that their their their leaders or whatever.
Yeah, give them, give them what they need in ammunition, but not
any cash. And what Biden has done with the college loans. You talk
about the polls. Everybody's really hpped up on how big Trump is on these
poles. I got a better poll for you a couple of days before or
after that poll, I can't remember. They asked individual questions. Who's better
Biden or Trump on the economy? Trump plus twenty two percent. Who's better
on the border, Trump up tremendous. Who's better on the on the on
the border, on forums, the issues? You take a national poll just
recently, Okay, he's ahead, but I don't believe those polls at all.
But the individual issues on the border, I mean, we got ten
million people in this country, Bill, that we don't even know where the
hell what one hundred and sixty from one hundred and sixty countries. What kind
of a melting pot are we are? We We're not a milting pot.
It's like we're going to be the potty's melted. I mean it's a glow
torch. And JD we have seven and thirty two individuals from those Iran,
Iraq, Jordan, and Lebanon that have been released inside the country, including
more than one hundred and fifty on the terror watch list. We release terrorists
from Iran into the United States of America. That's what we do, and
suddenly that's somehow permissible. Jad. Thanks for your call, But I tell
you, damned this thing I've ever seen in my God. Do we need
leadership right now? And we have none. And the media is not done
doing his job yet on Donald Trump. The charges are a bunch of bs
and the civil case is worse than that. Well, let's continue with more
fifty minutes after the hour, Bill cunning on the Great American with you every
Sunday there's not a moral equivalence between the rape victim and the rapist, between
the murdered and the murderer, there's not an equivalence. There's not a moral
But what about is them? That's not the case. Israel was viciously and
unwarrantly attacked by about three thousand Hamas murderers, hyped up on drugs, with
battle plans, according to The Washington Post, that involved marching into the West
Bank, hooking up with terrorist groups there and have a complete complete obliteration of
the state of Israel from the river to the sea. Palestine must be free.
Well number one, there is no Palestine. Number two. Israel has
tried many times for a two state solution. Keep talking about two state solution,
two state solution. Gaza and the West Bank is the two state solution.
But it is so screwy there and so bad to live there. Hamas
and others take all the money provided by others and use it for guns and
weapons instead of hospitals and schools. The problem is a good chunk of Gods
of residence support the goals and aims of Hamas, Burgee, Gabriel. It
got to get her on soon. I washed her In a panel discussion,
Bragee Gabriel said, there's two hundred to three hundred million Muslims around the world
that support Hamas and Hasbla and what they want to do. Now that is
not most It might only be twenty percent of the total. But when you
have two to three hundred million people committed to your death in Israel to Jews,
supported by the ignorance the useful idiots on college campuses, that's a terrible
problem. And I can understand completely what Jews in this country feel as if
they're under attack, and it's got to stop inside of America, and the
administrators of these colleges and the mayors of these blue cities, you got to
rise up and say you're no different than the ku Klux Klan or the Nazis.
You're a hate group and we won't put up with this at Harvard or
Columbia, University of Chicago, University of Cincinnati, UCLA, or Portland.
What's happening in the West Coast is particularly egregious. So let's continue with more.
We never stop, We simply continue. I as a great American,
will never give up on the Home of the Free and the land of the
brave. Coming up here in about ten minutes will be Congress from brad Winstrip.
He's Chair of the Origins of the COVID Virus. He's also on the
Intelligence Committee. The line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three
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two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham,
Kelly Cunningham, the great American, of course. One of the great
Congressmen anywhere on this great nation of ours is Congressman brad Winstrip. Been there
about twelve consecutive years. He made a rather dramatic announcement about three or four
days ago that he will not seek re election to another term as US House
of Representatives. And if you listen to me for a while, Brad comes
on quite often. He's on the Ways and Means Committee. He's on the
Intelligence Committee, he's chair of a subcommittee looking into the origins of COVID nineteen.
But most importantly, Politico and others have said he's one of the top
ten US Congressmen from either party of the four hundred and thirty five. He's
in the top ten because of his influence and his committee assignment's ability to walk
across the island, deal with Democrats at times, and he's well respected.
So it's said to lose people like this. He's got one more year to
serve and Congressman Brad Winster, welcome, I think for one of the final
times as a Congressman to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you tell the
American people why you decided to make this at this point? You announced it
I think on Thursday, three or four days ago. And why are you
leaving Congress at the end of your term. Yeah? First of all,
Yeah, we've got fourteen more months to go and I plan to run through
the tape. We've got a lot to do, and I hope to get
a lot of things done when it comes to dealing with the pandemic and how
we deal with one in the future, as well as how we can make
America a healthier nation, not just to have a health care policy, but
actually be a healthy nation, and can continue to work on national security.
And I think at the end of this term there'll be opportunities out there to
continue to stay in the game, not necessarily in an elected position. So
we'll see what comes our way. But a lot of that had to do
with family. I've got young kids and I miss them, and so that's
a big part of it. And you know, Congress is hectic. We
know that going in. When I started twelve years ago, I didn't have
any kids, and now I have two, and I want to make sure
that I'm there because I think one of the most important things that we can
do in America is be good parents. And sometimes fathers aren't present as much
as they should be. And my kids want me around and I want to
be there. And you know, I was reminded a while back by one
of my surgeon mentors that I was taught by as a physician, and he
said, you don't have to be someone somewhere else as long as you're somebody
at home. And I've always believed in God, family, and country in
that order, and I'll continue to work on all three as far as the
typical life of a US congressman, many many years ago, before you took
office, I met with a congressman at that point, Congressman Rob Portman,
and I had sites of maybe running for that seat, and he said,
before you do it, I want to meet with you. I said,
rob Id, love to meet with you. And I met with him.
I said, he said, let me show you my schedule. I said,
okay, let me see your schedule. He left on an early flight
on Monday morning and was in Washington by about ten am eleven am on Monday.
If he had something going on early Monday, he left on Sunday and
he stayed there until Thursday night. On Friday, he showed me scheduled in
Washington. He was on four committees. He showed me the appointments he had
coming up the next week. He showed me the presentations, the speeches.
And the worst part about the job, he said, was cold calling people
to get money. As a relatively new US congressman, I had to go
into a soundproof booth. Gave me a list of people to call and shake
them down legally of course, for money. And then he showed me when
I got back on Thursday night of Friday. I had at that particular weekend
seventeen appearances on Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday. Do you run
a similar schedule pretty much, except that I have to say I've been in
a position one way or another that I actually have fundraising teams that do most
of that work. I mean, I will have events, and I will
have meetings and this and that, but I don't do a lot of the
phone calling. It's set up and we seek it in another way. So
I've been fortunate. It's not that way necessarily every district, but we've been
able to work it that way. But otherwise, Yes, one time I
wore a fit bit and I was doing between thirteen and eighteen thousand steps a
day in the Capitol, just going from one committee to the next. So
you get a pretty good idea. It's not a desk job, that's for
sure, although you do spend other hours at your desk doing a lot of
work, and it's been enjoyable work, there's no doubt. But I'm not
leaving bitter or anything like that. I no, democracy can be very messy.
I think it's messier right now than it has been in the past,
But that doesn't mean we can't get things done. You cited those other articles.
I think that sometimes when you do things, you get them done quietly.
You're not necessarily on TV talking about them. And I think that as
a doctor and as a veteran, you can bring a lot more to the
table on issues involving health and military and that's where we get things done and
sometimes bipartisan with other doctors and other veterans, and so I think that had
something to do. But if you take a come in a sense approach to
a lot of things, and you work on being persuasive rather than bombastic,
you can really get things done. And I have a Reagan quote on my
desk. It said there's no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't
care who gets the credits. Yeah, no question, you're one of the
top ten, maybe the top five or six. You're up there in my
book with Congress from Jim Jordan, people like that. I have great respect
for. You've been called a doctor for about thirty thirty five years. You've
been called a colonel recently promoted, you were in the military twenty five years
and now a congressman. But for about twelve years. So you're a doctor,
a colonel, a congressman. But the most important thing you've been called
is dad or honey that from your wife? Correct, how's that too?
I want to keep that one going for sure, you know. But yeah,
it's it's it's true, and it's music to my ears when I hear
the kids, you know, call me Dad. I got married late.
Didn't know if I'd ever hear that, so I'm thrilled to have it.
And you know, there was a time when the kids weren't going to school
yet where we drove back and forth every week too, to add to it,
but the kids were good in the car. They watched Andy Griffiths and
they know that show. So we're trying to do things best we can.
Will it. What are you going to do, because you're still a relatively
young man. Are you gonna back into practice? You're retired from the military
as a colonel, you're retired as a congressman. Are you going to be
a doctor. I'll always be a doctor in some way, shape or form.
We'll see. I don't know if it'll be full time practice like before,
but at the same time, I think that there'll be avenues to be
engaged in the health arena as well as the national security arena. And at
the same time, I think there's going to be some things that you can
do locally, philanthropically or just making good connections for people, because I think
there's a lot of things you can do if you don't wait for Washington,
we can do it better privately than if Washington tries to do it. All
right, Congressman Brad Winshall, let's go on to some of the issues.
On Friday, all hell could break loose again. It appears that the proposals
of Speaker of the House Johnson to break this thing down into two parts.
A part of it would be a valot until January, then part would be
February. He doesn't want to tie everything together the one hundred and six billion
dollars, which is a credit card debt. On top of the credit card
debt, what's going to happen between now and Friday? Is there going to
be another government shutdown? Well, when nobody runs to shut down, I
can tell you that. But what we want to do is put things in
place to start with better process. And we've seen over the last several years
what we don't want to see is a bill at the end of the year
that's a huge garbage pail where everything gets thrown into it and it gets passed,
and usually it's an increase in spending. And so we want to paste
this out, but actually working in our committees in the House, not much
in the Senate, but in the House, to go ahead and come up
with our appropriations bills, our actual spending bills where we actually say this is
where we want to spend money. And so what's being proposed is to extend
government funding in two steps. Go with four appropriations bills that will extend to
January nineteenth, and then the remaining eight bills extend until February second. That
doesn't mean we haven't done these things in the House and aren't close to completing
them all, but understand that when we get it done in the House,
then has to go to the Senate or the Senate has to bring theirs to
the table and we go to conference and then it goes to the President.
So we're buying time. And you know, we also have a bill in
place, so if we get into January, there's an automatic one percent cut.
At the same time, we're going to make sure that we can adequately
fund our military and can engage with some of the situations we have going on
around the world, but a one percent cut on most other areas would be
just fine with me because we have a lot of unnecessary spending. The bottom
line is we have to get back to a process where we are really acting
like a business like CEOs and getting together and deciding how we're going to spend
our money and address our debt. It is one of our greatest risks.
The trajectory is unsustainable. Moody's is put the US credit rating on a downgrade
watch. You know, it's a negative outlook for the US credit rating,
and we've got to do better in managing our country. And at some point
we also have to address mandatory spending. Those are the things that are programs
that money just goes out the door without us ever looking at it, and
they're taking over the pie. So in addition to borrowing money, what we
actually have keeps getting squnched as far as the discretionary spending, which is what
those appropriations bills are. But at the same time, when you put a
program in place and you put it in perpetuity, you've got to go back
and look and see if it's working and can it be sustainable. You have
to look at numbers. You have to look at how many people pay into
the tax paying system, all of these types of things. What does the
next generation look like? That's what actuaries do with insurance companies. That's what
we have to do as a nation. Are you shocked, Oh, what's
happening since October seventh about the Hamas chapters on most US college campuses. One
hundred thousand march to New York City, one hundred and fifty thousand marched over
the weekend in London. Are you shocked at the blatant anti semitism you're seeing
everywhere as if it's mainstream. I am. I had you know, we
knew we had problems on our campuses without a doubt, But for people to
be so one sided, they have so much hatred and be able to completely
ignore what Hamas did when they went into innocent civilians in Israel, and I
don't think we've seen anything like that in this world since the Holocaust, to
be honest with you, as far as brutal, terrible behavior where you totally
re disregard someone's life, down to children, the atrocities that were committed on
and these groups seemed to be able to just ignore that. And now we
hear a call. We now we hear a call for a ceasefire. Bill,
Well, there was a ceasefire. There was a ceasefire, but Hamas
Hamas negated it. Hamas went right in. Hamas went right in and just
took down innocent people. Took no prisoners, if you will, except for
some. And they're still held hostage, and no one seems to want a
comment on that. I've been for a two state solution for some time,
and but you know what, this is interesting. Bill. We were cleaning
the house and a picture frame came open in the back and there was old
newspaper. We're in there for nineteen ninety four Cincinnati enquire The sports section was
kind of fun because we just want opening days. This is April of ninety
four. Kevin Mitchell hit a home run. Anyway, But if you look
at this, I went to page two of the front page and it was
the Israeli soldiers leaving Gaza. It was an article about them leaving Gaza and
they're being attacked, and they're being attacked by the youth who are throwing rocks
at them and chanting we don't want peace. Because the reporter, I don't
know if it was an AP reporter, they were like, well, why
are you doing this? You know they're they're leaving. They're leaving, so
they're gonna be peace and we don't want peace. This is the youth.
Well now what are they forty years old? Now you know who they are.
So this seems to be something taught. It seems to be within that
particular group. There is no there is no chance of peace. They don't
want peace. It's death or nothing else for Jews right now. And you
know, Israel has the right to defend itself and they should and we're going
to help them and as as we can. You know, the House has
passed a bill to fund them, and we also paid for it in our
time. We took some money from the Irs to be able to actually that
was already appropriated by Democrats. We took some of that money to pay for
you know, from the IRS, to pay for the funding for Israel to
defend itself. Yeah, and I would say this that that in this country,
I don't think things have been this bad since nineteen sixty eight, with
all the riots in nineteen sixty eight, the political assassinations, what happened in
Chicago, And here we are in twenty twenty three, and something got screwed
up three or four years ago. Maybe it was because of the George Floyd
riots. They weren't protest. They were riots in which cops were killed,
a couple billion dollars of value taken out of cities, complete col lapse of
law and order. Whatever it was, George Soros to Marxist, whatever it
is, things have been completely screwed up. And now it just seems like
riots. Protests, knocking on the doors of the White House, bloody hands
all over the building from pro a Moaque demonstrators, Lafayette Statue vandalized. It's
happening in many major cities. I see the swastika put on NYPD police cars
over the weekend in order to, I guess, frighten the Jews. Just
massive lawlessness is happening everywhere. Everywhere I look, I see nothing but crisis.
You're in the belly of the beast. Is there a belief in an
apprehension in Washington, Congressman that we are living in very perilous times When it
comes to spending by this country. The two wars in Europe and in the
Middle East. You have a complete breakdown of law and order on the southern
border. I saw on one of the morning morning shows today that there's a
school district in Texas near the border that has to have Narkham available because they've
had several overdoses. They think unwinningly of grade school kids. That the prevalence
of heroin, percoset and fentanyl is so ubiquitous that Narkham is being handed out
to seven and eight year olds to their parents in case they inadvertently take fentanyl
or purposely take percoset. If you're in high school, there is something wrong
in this country right now. We need people like you to stick around.
Brad Winstrop. I understand why you're leaving. But nonetheless, is there a
sense among Republicans and Democrats in Washington that we are in trouble? Yeah,
there is a huge sense of it, I could say so within the Republican
Party. I think in the Democrat Party they understand it. A matter of
fact, I think more and more of them really want to do something about
the border, and especially when you start talking about Sentinel. There are many
over there China is and the other threat that yeah, we haven't even really
talked about in this conversation, but we have many, many times, and
it's it's a big part of the problem. You know, I'll still be
in the fight, but I want to make sure my kids know what America
is really founded on what we have been and hopefully you know this. This
seems like more than just a little bit of a pendulum swing. Is much
greater than that, and we have to address that. And people have to
start understanding that America is being self destructed and also being distructed, and it's
happening on many many fronts, and we have to continue to go after that.
But I don't think people are growing up with the right education on many
fronts, and that has been the problem when we've let it happen. And
you know what, this is the greatest country that's ever existed, but you
have to continue to live by the same principles, morals, values and virtues
we have had for over two hundred years. And when we start letting those
go, then we have a problem. And if you're going to disrespect the
democracy, the only democracy in the Middle East and be okay with them being
slaughtered and support those that are slaughtering them. This is a sickness and it's
a culture of death that is out there on many fronts. All right,
thank you, and we'll talk again later this year and next. But congratulations
brad Winstrup, doctor, colonel, congressman, father and a husband coming back
home in about a year. Brad Winstrop, once again, thank you for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Congressman. Thank you always
a pleasure. Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham
with you every Sunday night. I'm Billy Cunningham, the Great American. It's
kind of sad when someone like Representative Congressman brad Winstrup and military man, a
doctor, congressman for like twelve years, says I can't take it anymore.
But it happens. You have a life to live and you want to live
in and brad Winstrom has one more year ago then it's done. Coming up
next is David Johnson The Diversity Con and it is a con and it's a
New York Times bestselling author. David Johnson is next, and six month old
babies be racist. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham,
The Great American. Of course, one of the great con jobs happening is
that America is a racist, sexist, homophobic nation that is almost irredeemable.
And my next guest points out there are many words that exist today in reality,
especially in colleges and universities and elsewhere, like diversity and equity and inclusion
and white privilege and anti racism and critical waste theory and queer theory. I
kind of feel bad saying the word queer, but I guess it's okay.
Now. There were terms that rarely discussed five ten years ago, didn't exist,
but today they're proliferating because I think they pay a whole bunch of money
to those who advocate. One of the great new books out is The Diversity
con The Secrets and Lies behind the Shady DEI Industry, put together by David
Johnson and David Johnson. Welcome, I think for the first time, to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And David. First of all, let's go back
a little bit in time to your history. I've read some of your background,
and you don't necessarily fit the ideal of what many would say is acceptable
in our society, which I find very acceptable. Tell us a little bit,
a little bit about your journey before we get into the diversity con sure,
so, and thank you for having me. By the way, I'm
not a conservative, so I'm like a traditional liberals. I guess you could
say the time my story started with I worked for Hasbro is an engineer,
and one day they brought me into a CRT training seminar and the messages that
we were told was that children as young as five would start to exhibit oh
sorry, they started to exhibit overt racial biases and the same level as their
parents five years old. Yep, children as young at five, particularly white
children. And what they wanted the engineers to do my team was to use
anti racist messaging to influence the product and packaging to bring the racial consciousness to
young children. And this is Hasbro, which is one of the great toy
makers in America. And so you also point out in a part of this
that that that left claims that a six month old it can be a racist
baby, and that by the time of five, Hasbro has a mission changing
the toys that little kids play with to make them anti racist. And so,
and also you say in your bio, which I find very interesting that
you're a young, black, center left gay man who never felt discriminated against
in America, but now you're an engineer working for Hasbro, and all of
a sudden, you're taught to look for racism everywhere. Yeah, that's true.
So I grew up in upstate New York, and like, there's racism
in the country at micro levels that I'm sure many people have experienced. But
the claim that we're being taught to accept now is that America as a whole
is a racist country, and that all of our institutions are set up to
disadvantage black people. Martin Luther King that we're supposed to judge people based on
their merits and their character, not the color of their skin. But diversity,
equity, and inclusion are the complete antithesis of this idea. And so
where how does this tell me? As an engineer for Hasbro? How did
you manifest what the company wanted to be done? So that a three year
old girl doesn't develop racist ideas from a doll or some toy. How do
you change the product or what do you reflect in the product? So they
didn't give up any specifics in that meeting at the time, But the overall
message that they were giving us was to just use the ideals of anti racism
and critical race theory and keep it in mind when designing packaging, advertising and
marketing. How do you do that? How do you how do you keep
anti racism in mind when you talk about toy packaging? How does that work?
You could do it in a number of ways. What we see typically
is that you might have a children's package with the Black Lives Matter fifth and
maybe in a assortment of racially diverse children that are espousing these the teachings of
these organizations or these ideologies that people need to see color. That was a
model used by a cartoon network's Children Show to teach children that they should judge
people based on race and consider that when they're treating people. And so it's
one thing to have a black barbie, which I don't that's fine, But
to have subliminal, indirect liberal messages inside a toy product. Is that kind
of where you draw the line? Yes, So, like you said,
I don't think most people would care if there's a black barbie, for example,
But the problem would come in to say, when you tell children that
the black children need to play with the black barbie and the white children need
to only play with the white barbie, and that these the differences in race
need to be accounted for when they're interacting with each other. This is where
I draw the line, and this is why I found it so unacceptable,
and I thought that I needed to bring it to the public's attention. It's
happening as we speak. As far as other indications of this, your book
addresses the misconception that efforts are Marxist and origins while using Marxist ideology, these
large left wing businesses that fund DEI groups are more interested in crushing local businesses
creating a monopoly such as Google and Amazon and Facebook. They use race and
acceptable DEI practices in liberal communities, but the object is to make certain of
small businesses that they compete against cannot succeed. That is one facet of it.
Because these ideologies are pushed by such major market players like Google, who's
owned by Alphabet who's even larger company. You have the NFL pushing this,
you have places like Target. Even Walmart had a d program for their employees.
So it's a very widespread issue. And while one of the side effects
of their activism is going to be the destruction of businesses that don't comply.
The end goal is to kind of engineer a society what they would call an
inclusive society, where the even idea to challenge these ideas is just unacceptable.
It's not anything that's allowed to be done lest you face the consequences of losing
your job or social ostratitization. So basically there's one. It's almost like the
cultural revolution of communists China back in the sixties and seventies, in which you
have to believe or adhere there are certain set of principles and if you fail
to do so, you will be canceled. It is the exact same we
are experiencing a cultural revolution in America, and you can see the parallels in
that because a lot of these activists, while they're teaching DII or critical race
the or they are also throw in a criticism of generally just what they consider
capitalism, even though the nature of capitalism free market exchange, is what allows
America to be prosperous, but they have been taught to see capitalism as an
inherent evil because it doesn't bring about equal outcomes for all the people. Involved,
nor should it, because we don't want equal outcome. We want people
to earn. What will people to have what they earn through their merit.
No one decided this. There was no law that told Hasbro or Amazon or
Walmart or Target what they had to do what they didn't have to do.
So it seems like no one is directing all this DEI stuff all over the
country, but everyone's like marching in the same direction that are in charge of
these large multinationals. Can you tell us why in your opinion, it's happening
that way? Because bud Light came out a little bit strong with Dylan mulvaney,
etc. Bud Lights now used to be the top brand. Now it's
not in the top ten. Target's taking a serious hit when you have tuck
pouches three year old boys or girls that identify some other gender. Is there
other marching orders given? How come different companies, different businesses in different ways
of life proceed with DEI But like nobody specifically is in charge, they just
know to do it. The companies are facing pressures from what I would generally
consider two major sources. The first source is top down from such large institutions
like black Rock, and other large investment firms that will go to these companies
and say, hey, we have a DEI program for you, and if
you want to continue receiving our investment, if you want to receive certain credations,
then you will have to implement this in your company. So it creates
a corporate pressure from that's top down. And then on the other side of
it, there's an emergent social pressure with the advent of social media, where
relatively small groups of people can brigade a company and give their ideology a much
bigger sense of popularity among the populace that it actually has. So companies will
interact with social media and think that the general public supports anti racism as an
example, when they don't, but it has an outsized view because of social
media. David Johnson, author of the Diversity con And so for a large
multinational institution like Target or Walmart, there are pitches given in Bentonville, Arkansas
every year for thousands of companies line up in order to pitch Walmart on buying
their product and putting it on the shelf. You mean to say that part
of accepting the product from a small provider to Walmart, Walmart will say to
that small company, we like to do business with you, but here's some
DEI programs, which I consider it to be dee, not DEI because we're
going to die from this. But here are the programs we would like you
to implement. Wink wink, nod, nod, you better do it.
Is that how it works. That's a pretty good way to describe it.
It will usually come in the form of they'll have a certificate, for example,
and it's this company's certified diversity. It's the acceptable levels that the top
down companies would like to see. And the smaller companies can either choose to
abide by it and then adopt these diversity programs or they can reject it.
But then it comes across that they have less certifications, they have less I
guess it doesn't look as good when they're compared to their competitors and as far
as getting future business. Much like during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, you get
so many red ribbons when you complete certain levels of indoctrination. The more levels
are, the more emblems or symbols you accumulate, the more likely the fellow
travelers will do business with you because of what you put out on your company.
Website, for example. It is almost required to do business with these
large companies Amazon, Microsoft, Walmart, Target. You have to tow the
company line to make the money, and if you don't, guess what,
you're not going to get the business. Now do you see this, David
Johnson, Here we are at the end of twenty twenty three. Is this
accelerating, Is this declining or is this maintaining the status quo as far as
companies having to tow the DEI line to get business. Is this increasing,
staying the same, or lessening. It's tough to say. I would say
that the status quo of companies just blindly accepting it has been disrupted because we've
seen such major backlash against companies like Anneiser, Busch and Target. So I
believe that if the public continues to speak out and make their voices known that
these are not ideals that we will suppor with our dollars, then we will
see a continued decline of these ideas being accepted in institutions. However, on
the other side of that is because they're seeing pushback, the push to have
these companies coerced into accepting this has become more forceful. These individuals who teach
these classes. Do they really believe that a six month old or a four
year old little girl is racist? Do they really believe that? Some of
them do. I think very very much that it's like a cult mentality.
There are people who know that it's not true, but they're pushing it for
ideological gains. And there are people that are true believers that don't think through
these ideas completely, so they're not aware of the contradictions or the absurd piece
of sen it. You know, David Johnson, you made some great comments,
one of which is, you see what's happened to bud Light, you
see what's happening to Target, you see what's happening to Disney, And that
is I will not go to Disney. I don't drink beer, I don't
drink any alcohol, but I would clearly not order a bud Light. And
more than once I've passed a Target to go to a Walmart. However,
I'm not sure Walmart is significantly different than Target, but nonetheless Target got in
the got into Target. Shall we say of those of us who want a
more traditional viewpoint, but this is uh. I'll ask you the last question,
David Johnson, is this is this so system systematic. Is this so
ingrained in corporate structures, like through black Rock that owns thousands and thousands of
businesses? Is this so ingrained that it's going to be damn near impossible to
reverse. It's very ingrained for virtually every major institution, But it's not impossible.
And I think we've proven that by the fact that Anheuser Busch went from
being the number one beer to no longer being in the top ten. And
I think that it's good that people stop going to Target and go to other
places, even if it's Walmart that also has the policies, but they're less
vocal about it. So it's an incremental shift back towards normalcy, back towards
American values. So if we continue to do that, then I think more
and more the needle will be pushed back towards the center, and these companies
will be forced to reject these ideologies or they'll be hurt in their bottom line.
David Johnson, thanks for coming on to Bill Cunningham Show. There's going
to be about a million Americans who hear this interview at some point. I
love the fact that Dennis Prager has the forward to your book and the fact
you know of what you speak. You describe yourself as a gay, black
American center left who's never been felt discrimination. I'm sure you have felt it.
I'm sure I've had it. Everyone feels discrimination or censusent in one way
or another because of the way of one's appearance, one's weight, one's age,
the way one talks, the way. Absolutely, those things are everywhere.
But I don't want invidious discrimination where you're held back because of your gay
status or your color. That that is not the American way. But the
book is fabulous. It's called The Diversity con the secrets and lies between the
shady DEI industry, and it happens because lots of money is involved. Billions
of dollars are involved. It's seeking to change the American way of life and
we can't have it in that direction. Once again, David Johnson, author,
thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and David,
good luck to you and all your ventures. Thank you so much and
thank you again for having me. God bless America. Let's continue with more.
And it is sad because follow the money, like fellow travelers, have
the same philosophies and ideas and I love the analogy to walmartin Bentonsville. Some
company, little company shows up to get shelf space. But to get the
shelf space, wink wink, non nod, you have to have the housekeeping
seal of approval and then you'll get business. Wow. Oh, let's continue.
Bill Cunningham, the Great American live with you every Sunday night. Now
I Bill Cunningham, the Great American. You know these things always follow the
money. How many millions of dollars is Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc.
The Black Lives Matter movement? How much money have they made? Millions
and millions? Follow the money, nothing but money and it's paid for and
black lives at antire organization. The founders are now multi millionaires and it's a
con job and so many colleges universities. One of the saddest parts he discussed
is the fact that the diversity con has permeated itself deep deep in the corporate
America and that one must play the diversity line DEI line in order to get
business anywhere. And that is extremely sad. They have the large multinational companies
demanding that this critical race theory, teaching employees that six month old babies can
be racist things of that ridiculous character. It's a con job, and it's
happening, and it continues to happen, which is the miseducation and the misappropriation
of time for this ridiculous theories. Let's continue with more coming up next as
one of my favorites the Congressman Tom Massey of the great State of Kentucky.
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things for happening after the Tuesday debacle in the state of Ohio. And joining
you and I now is Congressman Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky, et cetera.
He's an entrepreneur, he's brilliant, graduated from MIT. He can fix his
own cell phones for the screwdriver, and the guy's unbelievable. I don't know
whys in politics, but nonetheless he's under attack by some as voting against support
for Israel in favor of Hamas. Plus the kill switch. Put that in
the back of your mind, the kill switch. We're going to talk about
that. But Congressman Thomas Massey, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And can you describe why you decided it's the only Republican and to vote against
in a sense Israel in favor of Amas. At least that's what the commercial
says. Yeah, well, you know, and everything you see on TV
or listen to on the radio is true, right, absolutely, listen listen.
I came out early on. I condemned the attacks by Hamas. Those
are brutal and barbaric. There's no justification for attacking innocent civilians like that whatsoever.
And I also support Israel's right to defend itself. But in the last
week, we've voted on about a half dozen different resolutions and whatnot, condemning
this or that and saying they support Israel. The one that ticked them off
the most. And I suspect this is why they're running those ads is I
did not vote to send another fourteen point three billion dollars to in foreign aid
to Israel, and I've not voted for foreign aid in Ukraine. I've not
voted for foreign aid anywhere, and the eleven years that I've been in although
there was some three point eight billion dollars for Israel and the DoD A Probes
bill that I voted for that's sitting over in the Senate and they're not acting
on it. But I just don't vote for fourign eight especially when it's a
standalone package. This was fourteen point three billion dollars. And you know there's
some who argue, well, Congress and MASSI, this will stimulate our economy
and create jobs because they're going to redeem those as gift certificates at Raytheon and
Lockheed Martin. I don't think, Sony, can you tell me where the
fourteen point three billion? And by the way, artistically I loved ISRAELI spent
time I'm there in May, would love to go back again one hundred percent
support. But if we start sending this one hundred and six million dollars,
where does that money come? From do we print it? We don't have
it. We're upside down two trillion dollars. Where do we get the money?
Well, we're borrowing it right now at five percent interest rates. That
the interest rate we pay on our debt has about tripled in the last few
years. And we're going to have about a trillion dollars in interest alone.
So we don't have the money. We're borrowing it pretty soon the borrowers,
the lenders aren't going to loan it to us, and we will have to
print it like they did during COVID. They printed five trillion dollars to fund
those bills that I voted against. That's why you get all this inflation.
I say, the twelve hundred dollars checks were the cheese and the trap to
get people to go along with it. But it's going to cause more inflation
here at home. We're not even protecting our own borders. No we should.
We're not even spending a third of that on our own border. This
it's ridiculous. So and where does it go? Well, you know,
I talked to a friend who's who immigrated from Israel to the United States.
He's a constituent. He said, part of The problem is there anti gun
in Israel now, right, and that if they had the equivalent of the
Second Amendment, a lot of this could have been stopped. In fact,
some of it was stopped by armed citizens who saw what was happening and came
together, or they may have gotten much further into the country. Yeah,
and it's ridiculous. Two percent of Israelis were authorized at home to have a
weapon, two percent when almost all of them spent two to four years in
the military. But there was an idea that we got the IDF, they'll
protect you. And now they're handing out handing out to guns like popsicles in
July, because now anybody that wants a permit to have a weapon in their
home, they're saying, okay, take it all. So to go back
to the foreign to the spending in Israel of one hundred and six billion between
all the entities, the reason you voted against it is number one, we
can't afford at Number two in the Senate, there's about three or four billion
dollars sitting there ready to give to Israel anyway. And number three, you
might recall a couple of days ago in the thirty year Treasury auction. They
had to be shut down because there weren't enough buyers for the thirty year treasury
note that got up to close to five percent of the thirty year And there's
a little bit of a sense that, you know what, two trillion dollars
we're going to borrow this year again, this fiscal year, which we don't
have never going to pay back. It's going to be forty trillion dollars by
the end of this decade, forty trillion dollars. We're going to spend about
one trillion dollars a year just an interest, which is about twenty five percent
of all the money collected from all the Americans and tax receipts. We pay
about four trillion in taxes and we spend six trillion Thomas Massey, how long
can that continue? Are we going to become the wear mark of the late
nineteen thirties where it'll take a wheelbarrow to buy a loaf of bread. What
you suggest is true. And by the way, the debt to GDP ratio
in Israel is much lower than our debt to GDP ratio, So why should
we borrow the money and with no promise of it getting paid back? And
send it to a country that is per capita better off than we are.
That'll be my fourth reason. The fifth reason this money is going to go
to military industrial complex. It's not going to go to the things that they
really need to stop sort of this medieval type attack with you know, back
hos and trackloaders and drones and whatnot, and rifles and machetes that would you
know that they used. They're going to spend it. It's all. It's
basically a stimulus package for our military industrial complex. They see it winding down
in Ukraine when you know, as soon as Afghanistan stopped, they they they
fired up Ukraine. And now that Ukraine looks like they they're going to have
to negotiate some kind of settlement there. They're they're looking for the next place
they're going to spend all this money. I'm not going along with it.
I'm not going to spend them. And for that, I've got eighty eight
thousand dollars of advertisement running against me this week between TV and your radio station.
The one good thing out of all this bill is we're stimulating the local
economy. These lobbyists who yes wrapped me up, I think they're spending a
lot of money at your radio station, aren't they. Yeah, yeah,
no question. And we spoke off the area yesterday and you took the adult
approach and said, spend it all. Just keep spending it, and we're
more than willing to take ads. And it is what it is. Let's
move on to point number two. And I saw this on YouTube when you
went off on the kill switch, and I have a fear down the road
the direction we're headed. If the interchangeable drill bit becomes Joe Biden or Kamala
Harris or Gavin Newsom, whoever, the liberal left wing Democrat takes over the
White House and we go four to eight more years of the policies and the
kill switch is here. Can you explain to the American people what is the
kill switch? So in one of those thousand page bills that passed two years
ago before we were in the majority, they mandated that by twenty twenty six,
all new vehicles sold in the United States have to have an automated kill
switch. In other words, the vehicle will monitor your driving performance and then
disabled the vehicle if it decides you may be impaired, not drunk. It
says impaired. And this is different than the breathalyzer technology that thirty one states
have where you have to blow into something to start your car if you've been
convicted of a DUI. That technology already exists. This is a totally different
technology that can disable your car while you're driving it. Imagine you're a mom
with your kids in the car and you pulled over for the ambulance to go
by to something, and then you swerve to miss a deer. You went
around some obstruction in the road, and now your car shut down and you're
on the side of the road. Who is going to a to get your
appeal? Who do you appel it to? Do you press a button and
a lawyer comes on from the Department of Homeland Security or something? And the
data? Are they the data is clearly going to be stored in your car.
Who has access to that? Do they need a warrant? How's it
going to work? Is it going to use video cameras that monitor your face
to make sure you're looking at the road? Does it use video cameras facing
forward? You know, I broke down and bought a new truck. I've
made my old truck last twenty five years, and I told my wife,
Okay, this thing is not reliable to hault cattle. So that convinced you
I needed a new truck. This truck tells me when it thinks I'm not
doing a good job of driving. It tells me I might be sleepy.
I need to pull over. It sets off alarm bells. What they wanted.
What this technology will do is tie that to your ignition switch and shuts
you down when the vehicle determines you're you're not suitable for driving. What if
it shuts you down on a railroad track coming in coming into the station.
Miami Avenue, which is close to our station, is an obstacle course.
They're putting in pipe, sewer lines, they're put in water, and you
wait. Then you go left, and you go right, then you stop,
then you go left, you go right, then you speed up,
then you stop, then you go left. And I went to a stop
sign and turn right. I ran into another sewer district truck had to go
left if my blazer determined that I was impaired. Uh. And this kill
switch is not breathing your air. It is simply monitoring whether you're swerving or
going too fast. And it shuts off the car. Correct, And they
also, by the way, they've included another part of that bill that has
technology to monitor the air in the car, not the driver's air, but
the air in the car. What if you're the designated driver for three people,
you're trying to get home from the bar in the car, you know,
having helped you, the car is going to shut down because it also
it also says they have to have that technology. What about marijuana? You
know, the Buckeye State joined twenty four others in allowing the marijuana use.
And I would imagine people are going to get in the car and I would
imagine, you know, driving drunk under the influence is not good. But
nonetheless, if you have a half of a one or if you have one
or two beers, you're not impaired. You're under the limit. What about
that? Well, listen, if they come up with technology that sniffs for
marijuana and shuts your car down, you won't be able to drive through Washington,
DC with the windows down because every corner in Washington, DC smells like
pot. Well, Congressman, this kill switch technology is right out of animal
farm right at A nineteen eighty four. This is big brother determining whether or
not you can even drive. And I can imagine the false positives the kill
switch may activate when it shouldn't be activated in the middle of nowhere, in
the hills of Utah or Colorado. Suddenly you're in the middle of nowhere in
Montana visiting the Yellowstone and all of a sudden you're stopped. And how do
you say, okay, turn it back on at two o'clock in the morning,
or a trucker trunckers So wait a minute, think of the false positives,
and they're going to have to check you to know if your driving conditions
are suitable for where you are on the road. This is why this week
I offered that amendment to defund this mandate. So this was my legislative fix
for this, was to defund the entire manday. Now, it would only
defund it for one year because the spending's for one year. But would you
believe nineteen Republicans voted to keep this kill switch mandate. And even though I
got two Democrats to cross over, believe it or not, AOC voted for
my amendment because she was worried about the civil liberties aspect of this. You
see, you are voting with AOC, That one AAD. You know what?
I wait, here's what I told her. I talked to her on
the floor. Oh, I got you know they're running I told AOC.
I said, they're running eighty eight thousand dollars of ads. This can my
district saying I always vote with you. I said, it's about time you
vote with me once and she said, I am I'm not. I know
she was surprised by the AD. So what can we do to encourage you
and these other dozen and a half Republicans to give us autonomy and freedom?
That DUIs are going down? The smoking upot in the car is not a
big issue. It shouldn't happen. But I don't want the government monitoring my
driving. And the next step will be, of course, to monitor the
thermost out in your house, because all of us have smart thermostouts. What
about that? Or if you, you know, during COVID, if you
haven't passed the test or aren't vaccinated, well you're now a vector and we
don't want you to be mobile, so they could shut down I mean what
I'm saying, people are gonna say, oh, you sound like a conspiracy
theorist congresson nacy. No, I'm not. Our governor went to churches and
wrote down life plate numbers during COVID. He sent the state troopers to do
it. If you went to church during his order not to go anywhere,
you can be darn sure they will use this to stop these cars. And
they'll say it's a national emergency. So what can you do? Yes,
yes, please, I don't know. I don't want to call them out
that. You can go to my social media accounts. It's at Rep.
Thomas Massey. You could search for the hashtag sassy with Massy if you want,
because I also use that, and find the list of the nineteen who
voted against this and let them know that you do not want Orwell's future.
Tell them nineteen eighty four was not an instruction manual for Congress. You know.
I said this on the air, and three or four years ago,
in March of twenty twenty, the federal government designated me as the designated survivor
that I would be at this at our great stations underneath the transmitter, broadcasting
necessary information because of the familiarity of my voice in the Midwest, and at
one point it got to the idea that are we going to shut down the
highways if people don't pay attention and stay home. And unfortunately, Americans complied,
from California to New York, from Michigan all the way to Texas.
Generally, Americans complied and they stayed off the roads and stayed home. The
next pandemic. With this technology in place, you don't need a designated survivor.
All you need is to kill switch to turn off the vehicles. And
next up will the Department of Energy wants to keep your house at seventy six
degrees in the summertime and sixty six degrees in the winter, and you can't
go above that. Imagine what's coming. Well, the government already claims to
have the right to have an Internet kill switch where they can shut down the
Internet if they think it's important for national security. So that's a concern.
And oh, by the way, this week, this just came out this
week, the Stanford Virality Project under subpoena, they released documents that show that
the US government was using Stanford Observatory to censor me and my tweets during COVID.
So the US government's censorship industrial complex was actively censoring a US Congressman's Twitter
account and Facebook account during COVID for true things I posted. I referenced studies
on natural immunity, and they were the US government executive branch using these third
party groups were getting the signal back to social media to shut me down,
and they did. Can you imagine what they would do to some ordinary schlep
citizen living outside Austin, Texas. What they would do. They would shut
so they can keep you in your home, Demand the temperature inside your house,
kill switch on your vehicles. You know your role, and shut your
mouth either taking away your wood stoves too. That's how you get your gas
is done. You can't use would well Thomas Massey, I'm glad to hear
that you're against Amas, you're against beheading babies, and you're in favor of
Israel. But however, the funding of that, we have a debt crisis
coming in this country and that will add to it, especially when there's four
billion dollars in the Senate waiting to go to Israel anyway, So correct,
Thomas an, I go ahead. Israel's right to defend itself and condemn the
barbaric attacks of Moss and I hope you make your station does well running those
ads. I don't care about the ads. I think it's a stupid waste
of their money. And I'm glad it's going to fund your your salary and
your airtime to get the truth out. Me too. Congressman, you're the
best. Thank you very much. Thank you. Congressman. All right,
let's get that's the legendary Tom Massey in Northern District of Kentucky. That's wonderful.
He's brilliant. He's an MIT scientist and he's in government, and he's
applying human principles to federal government activities. And the two don't fit. Bill
Cunningham, The Grand American Live with You every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham.
Congressman Thomas Massey comes from a different way of thinking of things as an engineer,
etc. What that guy wants to do is be consistent in when he
takes a vote. He's voted against every foreign eight package since he's been in
the Congress because he's at number one, we can't afford it. Number two,
we have needs at home. How refreshing coming up next to his author
Carrie Sloan. She's executive director of Crime Research for John Watt's Crime Research Center
dot org. Difficult issue, that is, why are more and more women
gunning up getting training? If permits are required, getting the permits, how
come is more dangerous in our society to be a woman. And if you're
a woman, and should you be prepared to defend yourself, especially against domestic
violence, of which she had a terrible circumstance personally with her domestic violence case.
And you're going to hear about it in a few minutes, so let's
continue Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you and other great Americans every single
by Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the possession of guns
able to defend yourself and proper circumstances is a critical issue, especially with so
much ramp and crime happening thither and fro everywhere. There were so many Israelis
that were not permitted to have a private firearm in their home to help defend
themselves, and that certainly has now been corrected, and so many cities are
completely out of control. Police departments are collapsing. When I see what happens
in Oakland. Your home can be burglarized, your business, arm robbery,
whatever, and police don't show up. They they eventually a few hours later
might drop by and say, look, you're too busy. And so nine
to one one calls were not being answered. There's a lot of arm robberies,
home invasions happening everywhere. If somebody gets shot inappropriately, who knows,
riots may break out. It's almost critical that as individual Americans, under the
Second Amendment, we should have the right to defend ourselves. So a few
days ago the US Supreme Court took up a case oral arguments, and it
appeared that the liberal and the conservative justices might may side with the Biden administration
that the nineteen ninety four federal law is in line with the practice of disarming
dangerous people and does not violate individual's Second Amendment rights. Now that's to be
determined, of course, the case likely will not be released until May or
June of next year. But what it does do is say to someone who
may be subject to a domestic violence order that may be accurate or not,
that their Second Amendment of rights go poof. And they stays that way for
quite a period of time. And then eventually, if you're convicted, you
may have other difficulties ever getting your firearms back. So Carrie Sloan, she's
a fine American Executive director for Education for the Crime Prevention Research Center at dot
org. And Carrie Sloan, welcome, I think for the first time to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And Carriy, can you tell the American people your
personal experiences that you have in this regard? Well, I am a domestic
violence survivor, and so, of course I hold a very controversial opinion in
personal opinion based on facts. In this particular case, as someone who had
the justice system failed me. At prosecutor dropped my abuser's sell any charges to
a misdemeanor and then offered him a plea bargain to a diversion agreement. And
then law enforcement officers, as I stood in front of them with broken teeth
and fingerprints around my neck from being thrown around by my throat, told me
to hide when my abuser was let out of jail. Hide. Yes,
yeah, can you believe that they told me to hide? They said,
do you have a place to go for four or five days? And I
said, well, confused obviously, I said I do. And they said,
well, we know that the chances of violence significantly escalating after he is
let out of jail, right because in his mind, my abuser's mind,
it's my fault that he was in jail, so he's angry. So it's
a significant chance of him the violence actually increasing. And even these law enforcement
officers knew that that restraining order that was put against him was not going to
keep me safe. So what threw me into a lot of what I do
is okay. So if we're not going to keep these guys in jail like
RAHEMI is certainly not the guy that we want a gun owners representing us,
right, I mean, this dude is terrible. That being said, CPRC,
you know, on our website Crimeresearch dot Org, you can go there
and in our wee get free for the piece. You can actually see the
data that John Locke put out showing that domestic violence restraining orders do not keep
domestic abuse victims from being murdered, either with or without a gun. So
why are we continuing? I'm sorry, sir, go ahead. The point
is that I've done a lot of legal work when it comes to representing men,
generally men who have been to charge with DV and about half the time
they're legit. The other half the time, they're not legit. In your
case, Carrie Sloan, it was completely legit. And a piece of paper
is not kevlar. You can get that piece of paper that says, okay,
you stay away from Carrie Sloan. It didn't. It doesn't work that
way. Well, what happened to you after you had to go hide somewhere?
Did it? Did things metastasize ever get worse? Oh? He stalked
me. Yeah, he absolutely stalked me and kept me in fear and things.
And it wasn't actually for me, It wasn't until I bought a shotgun
that the nightmares of being beaten us up because they're it didn't work. So
obviously the idea of knowing that I was able to defend myself actually wasn't just
tangible. It also helped me, you know, psychologically. And that's the
biggest key with all of this is you know, and this is my biggest
argument, and my piece in the Wall Street Journal recently, is if if
we obviously know that these guys are going to continue to get out, and
these restraining orders, like you said, they're not kevilar, they're useless.
In fact, the law enforcement officers in not so many words, little you
know implied that by telling me to hide. Why are we continuing to allow
these guys out? Why are we giving them uh diversion agreements and allowing them
to reascend instead of keeping them in jail where they belong? And furthermore,
why are we continuing to allow politicians to create to soften the laws that benefit
abusers instead of victims. As far as you're you're kind of come to this
from the wrong angle, from from many perspectives. You're your teeth knocked out,
you could have been murdered. But you're saying that those who are generally
men could be a woman. But generally men should be able to have their
guns. If they have a dv against them, they should should should still
have guns. Is that what you're saying? I am as the kids say,
that's an awfully spicy take. Yeah, yeah it is. It's a
very controversial take. And that's because for two reasons. First and foremost,
UH, when we're talking in regards of the Raheemi case, specifically, Rashemi
was never convicted of domestic violence. Obviously, we have enough evidence to show
that that's likely. But in America, you are in essential proven guilty.
The guilty. The only thing that he was actually convicted of, interestingly enough,
was being in possession of firearms while under a domestic violence restraining order.
Now, of course that's what threw all of this together in the Circuit court
below the Supreme Court case, whereas the Supreme Court is obviously using the Bruin
test to decide whether or not the uh, somebody like him, a dangerous
individual well should be able to own firearms. But at the end of the
day, he got the firearms regardless of being a prohibited person. Law enforcement
and even you know some justices and people politicians, they know that protection orders
aren't going to save us. We have data proving it. So we need
to change our paradigm and help people understand nobody is coming to protect us,
and we must embrace self defense and learn how to use a gun, especially
for women domestic violence syctoms, because it is the most effective self defense tool
available to us, no question women, especially because of the size deferential to
have a Smith and Wesson. I prefer for a woman a six shot,
a small one, and maybe a snubnose thirty eight. Don't it your chamber
around and you're good to go, but let's go back a little bit,
kind of get me to the point. Now you're a victim of DV.
Terrible DV on one hand, but on the other hand, you say,
well, my abusers should have the right to keep his guns. Explain kind
of put the bridge between those two things, well, the short of it,
and to keep it succinct for the brevity of your show. It is
not my responsibility to decide, or the government's responsibility, or a politician's responsibility
to decide who has truly been reformed or who gets to the right to own
a gun and who doesn't. It is our responsibility as individuals to learn how
to protect ourselves and be better trained than those people that want to do it
harm because the system has already proven that it's not going to do anything to
protect us. We know law enforcement is never going to be there on time,
so we need even in the best case scenario, they still can't you
get there on time. And Supreme Court is already ruled on several occasions that
law enforcement has no legal obligation to protect them. So we must start helping
women embrace self defense. We must teach them that they can become confident in
being able to defend themselves and not have to take away the rights of individuals
because any of these laws that are put in place that are put in place
to keep guns away from people like Raheemi also can be used against people that
are in essent divorced. Proceedings to seek this a lot, but interestingly enough,
a lot of people don't realize that abuser will use these laws against their
victims as well to his red flag laws, restraining orders and so to get
their victim disarmed so they had easier access to them without a fear of being
killed themselves when they go to attack or stock their abusers for their victims.
And in the case before the Supreme Court on Tuesday in twenty nineteen, Zaki
Raheemi assaulted his girlfriend in Arlington, Texas and threatened to shoot her if she
told anyone, which led to a restraining order that suspended his handgun license and
priveted him from possessing firearms. Of course, he did not adhere to that
order and then threaten another woman with a gun and then within two months open
fire in public five times. It's currently locked up, thank god. So
this is a bad case that might in your perspective may make for bad law,
but nonetheless that's a terrible fact pattern. Yeah, it is, you
know. And like I said before, this is like the one as a
gun owner you know that works in the gun industry as well. I am
a fire arm instructure. This is the worst example of somebody that we would
want to representing us. But at the end of the day, the bottom
line is that the data proves that the restraining order isn't going to do anything.
Excuse me, He's a perfect example that it doesn't solve the problem.
He obviously was able to obtain a gun even being a prohibited person. But
at the end of the day, in America, he is a United States
citizen, and in America you are innocent until proven guilty. And those guns
were initially taken away from him without new profits. All of those laws that
are put in place that are intended to protect abuse that can be used against
victims by their abusers. And that is the biggest reason why I do not
support these types of laws. If he is really a problem, if he
is really a menace to society, he should not be back out on the
streets and he should be kept in jail period. Bingo that's it, because
that little piece of paper might be an accelerant and his viewpoint to go after
even harder. And the best thing a woman can do is get a snub
nose thirty eight revolver, and all of a sudden you have power in your
own hands, a better security system because the police are not going to protect
you. They have no duty to protect you. They do their best under
difficult circumstances. But the best protection you can have is not a piece of
paper. It's a thirty eight. That's the best protection you can have.
Well, personally, I think it's a SIG three sixty five to thirteen rounds.
But yes, woman, I looked at that, and I have a
P two thirty eight and a P nine thirty eight, and I didn't think
I needed that many more rounds. But I love I love six hours.
Yeah, I too. I have one with me all the time except when
I'm at work. But nonetheless I have them. And but it takes a
little bit of bodily strength to chamber around unless you keep one chamber and keeps
the safety on. I love that weapon because the safety on is a wonderful
feature. But the chamber around and walk around with a hammer cocked. I
don't want to do that, and so it might take it might be more
difficult for a woman to chamber around. Correct, No, it's not.
You may just have to be tought properly. I'm a firearms instructor as well,
and they do. By the way, I have that two thirty eight
total digression from our conversation that two thirty eight is a fantastic little carry gun.
I love it. I love it. Yet I apologize to go back
on topic not number one. Uh you're saying, and John, you're with
John Lott in one of the one of the great minds when it comes to
uh gun rights that if somebody is accused by someone else of committing some wrongful
act to take away fundamental constitutional rights, which is a restraining order dealing with
TV, and you give up the rights without trial, that's a problem.
Is that your point? It is a huge Yeah, it is a huge
problem. And I mean not in the fact that this guy didn't get you
know, do process. This is an underlying issue to the Supreme Court case.
Right Like I said, it's a separate, separate reason it's gone to
the Supreme Court. And I wish that I could tell you that I was
a judge of which way it's going to go, And I can't even tell
you because, to be in my humble opinion, I don't feel like Raheeman
lawyer did a very good job in that. But that's a different conversation.
But at the end of the day, one of the things that threw me
into this entire gun rights thing was a law in Washington State called sixteen thirty
nine. A lot of people knew about it, and where when you sign
your background check, you're forty four to seventy three to have a background check
on It was a waiver of your medical record, and somebody could be denied
the purchase of a fire arm based on what they looked what they were seeing
in the medical record. And you and I both know they weren't looking for
a broken arm. They were looking for some reason to justify a red flag
law on someone later. And I thought, well, we'll wait a minute.
You know that's going to prevent women from going to get therapy that are
abuse for guns and so on. Well, that just leads back into everything
that is related to this case in terms of Brahemi and these restraining orders.
You know, my ex and my abuser stopped me on that restraining order.
He figured out how to do it just to skirt the law. And you
know where he may obtained guns, you know, if he was a prohibit
person a bill. Tell me how he got a gun? How did that
possibly happen? Bad guy? He mean, the bad guy got a gun.
Weird, Huh. It may happen all the time. I'm not sure.
But if he if for Hemi, if he wanted the gun, he
would get a gun. And that little piece of paper is completely irrelevant.
And uh, well, we'll see what happens. What is your website.
It's crimes Crime Research Center dot org. Has had to get all the information
objectively correct Crimeresearch dot org. And you can find the Amigas brief on probably
the homepage. I believe it's still on the homepage, and that in that
Amikas brief is where you can find not only our argument for this law not
being good law and that they should side with Forhemi, but additionally all of
the data and the table and research that John Painstaking and his team painstakely put
into proving that restraining order you do not actually keep them safe. Now,
what does keep you safe is a p. Two thirty eight. Six hour
properly used by a woman who may be the victim of something. Now that
will keep that will keep you safe. Not a piece of paper. Man,
here's a piece of paper. Don't beat me, you don't hurt me.
No, here's a six hour get ready for six, get ready for
six coming your way. Now, that'll stop it right there, or prevented
from happening all together. If they know you got it. Yeah, Well,
well, forewarned is forearmed. But you got to be all right.
You got to look after your own self much like your own health. Got
to look after your own health well. Once again Carrie Sloan of Executive Director
for Education the Center of the Crime Prevention Research John Lott's organization, once again
carry Sloan, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Will do
it again. Thank you, Kerry, Thank you, sir, Thank your
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Sorry Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Good to heavy with me. This
evening, and it was said we started off a couple hours ago with Congressman
brad Winstrip of Ohio, one of the top ten most most influential and powerful
congressman announcing announced it on Thursday first interviews here that he can't take it anymore,
wants to spend more time with his family. I get that completely.
Plus I want to thank David Johnson, author of the Diversity con how DEI
is convincing large numbers of Americans that six month old babies and children can be
racist. You have to raise an anti racist baby. And for some reason,
if you have work you want to do with some of the big multinationals
like Target or Walmart, you have to demonstrate, as a small provider of
a good or service to those large multinationals that you're DEI compliant. So that
the cancer cells of diversity, equity inclusion is now working their way down into
the body politic of every economic institution in the country. And also tonight,
about three or four hours ago, Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina announced that
he's vacating. The president will run this year, and that leads Christy leaves
the governor of Florida. Of course, Ron Desandis and leads US Ambassador Hailey,
and of course of ak Ramaswami, and that's about it. So it's
kind of getting out. It's kind of slowing down a little bit. But
I know one thing that we are in deep trouble everywhere I look. Seventy
seven percent of the American people say we're on the wrong track. The college
campuses are erupting in violence against Jews. That thank god, winter is coming,
so the rioting in major cities may go down a bit because it's too
cold to riot. The drudg Report has this story tonight. By the way,
I think largely the Drudge Report has lost its way that many immigrants in
Chicago are leaving Chicago because to them it is unpleasant and they're going to go
back to their home countries. So that's the way it is well unbelievable.
I pray to God that he's not diverted somewhere else, because we need divine
providence and guidance right now more than we have in many decades. Bill cunning
and the Great American with you every Sunday night.