1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:21,800 You're listening to your worst friend going deeper. You're listening to your worst friend 2 00:00:21,839 --> 00:00:25,679 with Shane and Matt going Deeper. Today, I'm joined by my friend and 3 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:32,759 co host Shane Hi and a very special guest, the number one returning guest, 4 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,880 the only returning guest we've ever had on the show to this point. 5 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:39,679 Um, let me give a little backstory. Then I'm going to introduce her, 6 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:43,520 and then we're gonna plug her. Not in the way you would hope, 7 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,359 not in the way I would hope, but it's not the Yeah. 8 00:00:46,439 --> 00:00:50,759 No. Um. So, the first season we got to do the show, 9 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,840 and basically I'm going everywhere I can to try and find some level of 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,560 porn star or porn creator or whatever. We've got some major names. We've 11 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,200 got Sarah j was on that season. We got Rebel Lynn was on that 12 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,239 season. And then as I'm going through Reddit, I find a performer from 13 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:14,840 one of the better amateur sites I've ever seen, which was at the time, 14 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:19,799 Texas boukaki dot com. And I see that this performer is on Reddit 15 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,200 and promoting herself and whatever. I'm like, oh shit, I don't know 16 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,959 if she's the biggest name to put on this, but I need to get 17 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,280 this person on and talk about this site in her experience shooting it and whatever. 18 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,560 So we finished the season, we put it up. I mean immediately, 19 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,640 this girl, her video on YouTube, on X videos, on everything 20 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,879 else is surpassing all of the people. Sarah Jay again at the time had 21 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,959 five million followers on Instagram, and this girl beat Sarah Jay by like fivefold 22 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:00,879 in terms of views. Because I think she's adorable. One. She's a 23 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,120 great performer too. She's interesting to listen to, especially if you just see 24 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,599 a clip of it, you're gonna be like, oh wow, I want 25 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:12,000 to hear this chicktok. So out of all the offers we've had of other 26 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,080 girls to come back on and you know, catch up on their life and 27 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,840 this and that, this is the first person that I've been like, you 28 00:02:17,879 --> 00:02:22,000 know what, Yes, let's let's have her back on. Let's consider it. 29 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,599 I'm going out of my way to ask her to come back on. 30 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:30,800 Ladies and gentlemen with us today. Kat Karma Orgasmic, I don't back by 31 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:37,919 popular demand. Back by popular demand. You can find Kat Karma Orgasmic on 32 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Instagram for now until it gets booted again. Because she's got a nasty habit 33 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:47,599 of posting stuff that crosses the line at kat karma oo and that's the letter. 34 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,840 Oh correct, cat yep okay kat karma oo on Twitter at kitty kat 35 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,520 Karma two on only fans kat Karma orgasmic. Now we're going to delve into 36 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,560 that a little too. But what I love is she's not the type that 37 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:07,319 you sign up for only fans and then every other post is a twenty five 38 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,560 dollar post or a thirty dollars post or this and that, Oh would you 39 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:13,840 like to see me naked? Here? This is going to cost you five 40 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,840 bucks. You sign up for cats only fans and it's just right off the 41 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,560 bat boom. You know, got everything? This is it. She's bearing 42 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:25,199 all. And if you want to get individual videos, go to many VIDs 43 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,400 and search cat karma. You'll see her. I googled it to cat Karma 44 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,039 orgasmic. Google will take you to it. Ladies and gentlemen, cat Karma 45 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,520 orgasmccat. How are you today? Great? How are you not? Bad? 46 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:44,039 Whirlwind year and a half me finding you on fucking Reddit and begging you 47 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,560 to come on you having X amount of followers and a few videos and whatever? 48 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,879 Cut two a year and a half. We've talked to some of the 49 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:54,800 biggest names in the industry. I've been talked to by PR agents telling me 50 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,680 that we can definitely probably get our podcast nominated for a v AN Award next 51 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:06,280 year. And you are just blowing up all over Twitter. You're shooting with 52 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:10,599 bigger names. Right. What's it been like in the last year and a 53 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:15,960 half? Oh my gosh, it feels like three years. Like it feels 54 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,079 like way longer than a year and a half to me. Been so busy 55 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,560 and it's like NonStop. Yeah, sure, So what goes into that? 56 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:28,920 I mean, did you just so again? I should have really went back 57 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,399 and listened to an original interview. But was this your job job at the 58 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:41,519 time when we originally talked to you back in like December of what twenty one 59 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,079 minute? Still just a hobby? Was it more of a hobby? Yeah? 60 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,240 I think I had like just quit my job. Okay, Like I 61 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,759 was doing this as like a hobby for like two years and then yeah, 62 00:04:53,959 --> 00:04:59,160 I think I had just quit. So how long into quitting that job or 63 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:02,560 maybe at the time and it did it? When did you surpass your income 64 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:05,519 from the other job? When were you like, shit, man, I'm 65 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:10,040 losing money going to this job. I could be mega more of I'm just 66 00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:15,240 pushing out content more often. Was it then right then and there? Yeah, 67 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 it definitely happened around a year and a half. I mean it was 68 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,839 really before that, and I was just like nervous to quit my job. 69 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,160 Yeah. It's a big, big step, a big commitment. In a 70 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:30,040 lot of times, people have been at a job for a while. So 71 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:32,759 it's like you're throwing away what is it the phrase burning a bridge, right, 72 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:40,639 It's like you're yeah, you're giving up like benefits and relationships and security. 73 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:45,480 Yeah, so that's a huge step, even if you're making more money. 74 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,560 Yeah, exactly, And you never know, there's always it's always risky 75 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:53,800 no matter what job you do. I told myself that all the time, 76 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,800 Like, no matter what job you're working, it's not like guarantee that you're 77 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,600 going to keep your job. So yeah, it was a big risk though, 78 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:08,759 and also the fact that like your employers will probably find out eventually and 79 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,399 they're all going to become fans. Yeah yeah, hey maybe, but I 80 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:15,759 probably won't be able to go back to that job that. Yeah, I've 81 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,439 been doing that job for a long time. What's it like, was it 82 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,319 a Jewish daycare center? Like, why are you not going to be able 83 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,759 to go back to it? You know, No, it was it was 84 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:34,319 actually just like hospitality. I was in sales and also like managing and employees. 85 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:42,680 So I think that does become an issue for some employers, totally. 86 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:46,519 Yeah, yeah, the guy finds out. Yeah, it's a shame too. 87 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:49,439 One of the first girls we talked to was Gauge. Engage was a 88 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:54,279 very famous born star, very famous back in the mid two thousands. She 89 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,120 left the industry. She went to school. She got her degree for like, 90 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:02,800 not a social worker. It was something in the medical field actually, 91 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,879 like it was the bottomy. Yeah, yeah, it was. She was 92 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:12,000 working in a hospital and then she got the thing where her employers started like, 93 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:15,399 you know, showing her, Hey, checked this out. Look I 94 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:17,519 found a picture you taking it in the ass? Isn't that funny? That's 95 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:20,439 pretty rude, yeah, dude, And she had to eventually quit that. 96 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's see that's crossed as a line. 97 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,120 See. Yeah, I thought I thought it funny when she said if a 98 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,800 guy finds out, because I think women are just as likely to do that, 99 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:36,120 right, you know, like, yeah, did she jealous, Caddy. 100 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:40,560 Women can do shit like that too. It's just such such a rude 101 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,360 thing because I can't imagine going on someone's Instagram and finding a picture them like 102 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:54,680 at church or hunting or on an ATV or doing anything recreationally and then being 103 00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:57,279 like, hey, look at this. You're a piece of shit for it, 104 00:07:57,399 --> 00:08:03,040 you know, yeah, I mean yeah, some people I think are 105 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,480 bored with their own lives. You know. As I say that, though, 106 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,399 let me play a little Devil's advocate, because I wouldn't ever harass somebody 107 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:15,519 about it. But like, if I'm working with Kat at some hospitality thing 108 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,759 or something and I know what she does or whatever, I desperately and I 109 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,680 have the couth to not do it, but I desperately want to be like 110 00:08:22,439 --> 00:08:26,639 Sty's shooting something this weekend, Like I'm not calling it out to the office, 111 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:30,160 and be like, by the way, Cat's gonna need to leave a 112 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:37,159 little early on Friday because she's got to ice herself down. But but but 113 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,519 I understand why women wouldn't want it acknowledged at all in a workspace other than 114 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:45,399 the industry, because you know, maybe they don't, but I would so 115 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,720 desperately the same way like if you saw a girl that you knew from high 116 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:52,639 school naked, where you would kind of want to be like, even if 117 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,639 she wasn't that hot, you'd want to be like, oh god, I 118 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,759 want to see more of that, the factor of knowing that person, you 119 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,440 know, in that kind of Wow. I really sound creepy with this, 120 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:07,240 in that intimate way where I want to engage with them and I don't want 121 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,159 to do anything. I don't need to fuck them, I don't need to 122 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,759 do any of that stuff, but I do want to like delve into their 123 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:16,399 brain and be like, oh god, what were you thinking during this scene? 124 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,759 And you can't do that for hours, which is right. I don't 125 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:24,440 know why you seem a little more open, like if someone questioned you on 126 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,360 that, you might be like, that's what someone come to me. I 127 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,240 asked me, be like, is this like you? Instead of being like, 128 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:37,399 yo, this bitch is getting DPD on the weekend, I'd rather someone 129 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,879 me and after that's like way cooler to me. Just yeah, confront me 130 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:46,559 about it instead of making it all weird and talking behind my back. And 131 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:52,399 then there's this weird vibe because that definitely happened really oh yeah, yeah, 132 00:09:52,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Like how like how did was it managers or was it like really? Yeah, 133 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,960 it was like an employee from another department, a guy I think he 134 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:09,360 saw one of my videos and was he like told my boss and then he 135 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,080 told him that I was like filming in our hotel rooms or something like that, 136 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:20,200 and like I never did that ever at any point, so I just 137 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,639 they couldn't ever like get me for anything. So it wasn't until after I 138 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,600 quit that job somehow I found out that that had happened, and I was 139 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:33,639 like, that explains the weird fucking vibes. Ah for sure. Wait a 140 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,879 minute, this brings up a really interesting, not at all really related to 141 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,919 any of your industry work question, put more of a hotel question. Yeah, 142 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:48,879 did you ever have situations where it was just blatantly obvious that someone was 143 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:52,600 going to be shooting porn? And then what is like what's protocol on that? 144 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,519 Or you know, like like what if you know, one chick is 145 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,240 walking in with like seven dudes and then another two nerves you guys carrying lighting 146 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,440 equipment? Are you kind of like, well, this is just normal is 147 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,279 how things work? See? That actually never happened, but I did definitely 148 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:20,440 like see some sales happen ob Yeah, um, you know, like the 149 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,600 maintenance guy will like go in a room and he's come out and be like, 150 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:30,919 there's camera set up in that hot room those Yeah, is there is 151 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,759 there policy behind that? Do you have to like do anything? No, 152 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,399 it's just like you rented this room, take it, Yeah, I mean 153 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:43,559 yeah, unless you're trying to film out in the public space anything. It's 154 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,480 not like the rooms branded right, Like, it's not like they have big 155 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:52,279 signs everywhere like whatever holiday in, right, It's kind of non non descript. 156 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,080 It's discreet. So I think that, yeah, just let let him 157 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:03,240 beat. But but you got accused specifically of using the rooms of a hotel 158 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:07,279 you worked at. Is that what the accusation was? Yeah, like that 159 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:13,120 brand that chain. Okay, but they couldn't. So that's cool though. 160 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,240 That so you didn't find out about it until you left, So that means 161 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:20,200 that your employers did the right thing. That means they they took this person's 162 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,039 complaint and they were like, look, dude, you know, even if 163 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:28,080 she is sucking in these rooms, she's probably renting them. We can't we 164 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:35,120 don't have any proof that she's yeah, exactly exactly. So yeah, so 165 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,559 yeah, no need to h to name the company or anything, but shout 166 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:45,840 out to the HR department for not making you into a bad guy or a 167 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:50,919 victim or something. Sure, yeah, they definitely gave me some shitty treatment 168 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:56,000 though. Oh never mind, Yeah, yeah, fuck them. Uh no, 169 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,879 I mean I already burned that bridge, but I hate to burn bridges. 170 00:13:00,759 --> 00:13:03,039 Now here's the question. Do you still use do you still use that 171 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:07,720 chain to shoot your current videos? Or have we moved on to a higher 172 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:13,879 class or depending upon the set, maybe a lower class if that's lower class? 173 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:20,120 Oh wow, okay, I prefer that. I prefer that personally. 174 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:28,039 Casinos are fun. There you go, there you go. Um, all 175 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,000 right, so in the last year and a half, what have we done 176 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,960 that you let me ask, in the last year and a half, what 177 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,639 is the work you've done that you're most proud of? Uh? In terms 178 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,279 of something you shot, maybe something new you tried. Um, has there 179 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,720 been any scenes? I notice you've been doing what seems like a lot more 180 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:52,159 collaborations with people, it seems. Yeah, So now do they reach out 181 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:54,639 to you? Do you reach out to them? How does that work? 182 00:13:56,759 --> 00:14:01,919 Uh? Well so far? Sorry? No, at least go ahead, 183 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:11,759 I keep choking myself with my babypen Normally, I think all the scenes I 184 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:16,279 did last year were they reached out to me, like to us right, 185 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:22,159 um, but yeah, I think that those are my most proud Like last 186 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,440 year was just so busy. I think I'm proud of the volume of work 187 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:31,320 that I produced last year. Sure. Honestly, I was just kind of 188 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,120 reviewing the year, you know, because it was the beginning of the year, 189 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:37,279 and I was like, Damn, we've been so busy. There are 190 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:43,639 so many gang bang videos specifically and like full length videos on my page, 191 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:48,559 and yeah, I mean just the amount of scenes I'm proud of, you 192 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,480 know. That's That's what I meant to ask about. With your collaborations, 193 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,480 I see you do a lot of these gang bangs. Seems like all your 194 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,639 collabs are with a lot of dudes. Do you do you collaborate with other 195 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:03,320 women at all? Or is it just just dudes? It's actually girls who 196 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,000 and then we just invite all the dudes? True? Got it? So 197 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:13,799 are you are you into girls as well? Cat or no? Yes? 198 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Yeah, I think bisexual. I am. I've always been weird about labels, 199 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,000 like my whole life, but I would say I'm by Okay, when 200 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,799 was this I gets real into like stern territory. What was your first experience 201 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,399 with a girl? Was it when you were younger? Was it like college? 202 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:35,679 Was it like arm o'clock working at a hotel somewhere and that's why you 203 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:41,480 should be in trouble or like where? Way before that? Okay, I 204 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:46,200 was very young, probably too young, I don't know. Yeah, so 205 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:54,360 young. Cat was nine, the woman was forty six. No, no, 206 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,320 it was just I've always yeah, I think I started experimenting with girls 207 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,039 first, Okay, from like the age that you go have sleepovers. Sure, 208 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,080 yeah, that's how I've heard it happen to a lot, especially like 209 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,840 my wife is probably would brand herself as bisexual most likely. I think she 210 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:17,759 actually might be more of a lesbian if we're being honest. But that might 211 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,559 just speak to my inadequacies in lifectrum. Yeah, sure, it's a spectrum, 212 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:25,840 and she thinks I'm on a different spectrum. So that's probably why she 213 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:33,480 doesn't she doesn't love me, but um yeah she does, But um yeah, 214 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:37,120 I think that's you know, I feel I would love to know the 215 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:41,679 percentage of women who are like experimenting when they're younger in either middle school. 216 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:47,679 I think everyone does it probably are Yeah, well, if it's if it's 217 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,039 a if it's a self experimentation, you're right, it's definitely a one hundred 218 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,120 percent. But the to the sleepover thing, like I think you that doesn't 219 00:16:56,159 --> 00:17:00,279 determine whether you come out and buy um, but I think it can you 220 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,519 know, help you figure it out sooner because like from for instance, my 221 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:10,000 wife was not allowed to ever have a sleepover for her whole life, so 222 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:11,799 like that was like a rule that she was forbidden, like from going and 223 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:17,640 sleeping in other kids houses. It's like over productive type thing. But because 224 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,160 of that, she was denied the experience of ever being able to but she 225 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:26,039 still turned out, you know, pretty pretty much a lesbian too. So 226 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,240 it's it's not like going to sleepovers or getting your your your clit diddled, 227 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:34,440 you know, you know a little bit earlier, you know, makes it 228 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:40,119 makes you turn out one way or the other in terms of your preferences. 229 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:45,559 I think that's just like probably pretty ingrained in you from the beginning. Yeah, 230 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:48,759 I personally think everyone could be on the spectrum a little bit as far 231 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:53,720 as sexuality, Like oh yeah, I'm okay, that's just my opinion. 232 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:56,920 No, I think that's fair. I think that's probably fair. Not me, 233 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,000 like I'm some like straight majo do. But yeah, no, sure, 234 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:06,000 I get to other people and stuff. I'm just kidding. Well. 235 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,119 And then one of the other things we talked about last time we spoke to 236 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:15,240 you was the mainstream videos. Right, so again you had shot four scenes 237 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:22,279 for Texas Bukaki dot Com, which always end it real beautifully. I think 238 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:26,720 through doing this I've learned I have a bit of a come fetish, whether 239 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:32,799 it's facial swallowing or whatever. I'm a fan of it. So obviously getting 240 00:18:32,839 --> 00:18:36,200 to talk to you, I was like, it's great, this is cool. 241 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,599 Cheko understands me what I But then as we were talking about it, 242 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,200 you were offered I remember at the time, now see this is my memory 243 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,440 because I did not go and do this. And there's a couple of times, 244 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:51,640 you know, when I'll bring up other things too, that you'll be 245 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:59,200 like, wow, you remembered that you were offered to shoot for the site 246 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,559 in Spain, Right, Yeah, you didn't remember that. Yeah, what 247 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,759 is the name of that site? It's like so premium cocky is Yeah, 248 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,720 So I have stayed in touch with them, have you Okay, yeah, 249 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,079 okay, Now, Shane, you may not know those videos that is um 250 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:26,279 just chicks chugging down gallons full of loads or dumping them all like a cup 251 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,599 or something, I mean fucking in a in a small kiddie pool basically when 252 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:33,799 you see the amount of these things. So it's like, it's like that. 253 00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:41,799 Remember that old viral video literally Drowned by semen I think it was the 254 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:45,680 title maybe probably like it was like one of those videos where guys like hooked 255 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:51,559 up to a funnel and they are they're like they're drowning and semen um. 256 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,759 It's self explanatory. Now I don't remember that one personally, but yeah, 257 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,119 maybe, I mean sure I can picture it once you've described it so beautifully. 258 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,880 Yes, okay, So it's it's something like that where that the focus 259 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:08,720 is on the comical amounts of seamen going onto someone's face or in their mouth. 260 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,559 Okay, I get it. I like it. Okay. So we're 261 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:17,880 still in contact with them now again, You've been so successful with your own 262 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,440 only Fans brand, right that it seems like and what we've learned after talking 263 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,119 to girls for all this time is that so many girls in the mainstream don't 264 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,039 even really care about the mainstream shoots. It's a great advertisement for them, 265 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,880 that's it. It's a great advertisement for their only fans. They're going they're 266 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,319 shooting a scene they're making about two grand who gives a shit and then plastered 267 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:44,000 across the top of browsers, which gets fifty million hits a day. They 268 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,519 get their face and someone goes, well, I need to go find out 269 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:52,279 who this is. So it's really pretty amazing that you have built this brand 270 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,680 for yourself, gathered all these followers, which I think you've done it through 271 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,720 good social media. Now I don't know if this is you or your husband, 272 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:04,680 but at one point my timeline was like political video, cat taken loads, 273 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:11,559 video of um, cute kitten like falling off of bed and then cat 274 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:18,079 taking loads. Um, you shouldn't have said kitten. And then a cat 275 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:25,680 taken loads. That was a really enough kitten taken loads? Yeah, yeah, 276 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:32,079 here you go. Um, so how come we haven't done more in 277 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,759 mainstream? Was it just because you again you haven't needed to? Um, 278 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,559 I haven't had the desire to, haven't wanted to plaster yourself up there? 279 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Or what was it? I mean a little bit of I've been so busy, 280 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:48,799 fill me my hearth stuff and yeah, I mean, I guess it's 281 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:53,720 not my main goal, but it is worth it's worth doing some mainstream shoots. 282 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:59,559 Mainstream shoots for sure. Sure. So do you have anything coming up 283 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:04,359 that you're thinking of or are booked for or interested in or yeah, I 284 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:08,240 really really want to I'm not gonna like stay the name because I just don't 285 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,960 want to jink through things because I do want to shoot with someone this year. 286 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Oh no, is it a jinx? If I promise to edit it 287 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,200 out, yeah that's even Yeah, absolutely, I will bliep it up and 288 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,720 I'll put a little censor bar over your mouth. Swear to God, I 289 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,759 will that will happen. Okay, it's the same kind. Okay, so 290 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:37,680 premium Boukoki Spain. It's the same like Booker books for them. So um, 291 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:44,000 he's also thinking of booking me for Okay, yeah I know them too. 292 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Yeah. Oh, I guess we can't talk about it. Huh. 293 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:52,160 That's like yeah, okay, right, whereas one I think is more like 294 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,720 bookocky type, this is more of like gang Bang into Bokaki type. Okay, 295 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,720 okay, yeah, So here is the other thing we're gonna end this. 296 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,720 We're gonna do a little social media thing at the end, and all 297 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:07,759 the interviews we've had this year so far, so far we've done what three 298 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,559 Shane for this season. So this is the fourth one. Thir is the 299 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:15,079 fourth and we have a few more coming up. And one of the questions 300 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,000 I ask is and you know, if you've seen the social media clip of 301 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:23,079 this people who are now watching this video in preparation of it, you'll understand 302 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:29,599 what the question was. It's, uh, where is your favorite place from 303 00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:33,440 male talent to finish? Every girl we've talked to so far, Okay has 304 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:40,880 said, oh my tits right, Pat? What makes you the coolest, 305 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,160 hottest chick in the world? Who you're like, Hey, I don't care 306 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,200 about my makeup today, plaster it? Wait? Is that a question? 307 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Yeah? I don't know. Yeah, what that was the worst? Yeah, 308 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,880 it was. It was not word it. Well, I was trying 309 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,480 to be funnier more than that. But yeah, most chicks seem like are 310 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,759 not a fan of taking facials and what just sets you apart? What makes 311 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:07,960 you different from them? Where you're like you seem like you love it? 312 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,039 Oh, I love it and I love to fallow come to. I don't 313 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:15,319 think everybody likes coming their mouth. No, No, it does burn your 314 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:19,519 eyes like it hurts. I know why people might not like it, but 315 00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:23,200 I love it sure, sure, And this is me falling deeper in love 316 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,759 with you. So my question is, um, why does that not gross 317 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,720 you? I mean, what is it about it that you're just like, 318 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,079 oh, this is awesome? Is it like the texture? Do you like 319 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,319 the heat of it? Which sounds really gross as I say it out loud. 320 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,079 It'd probably be hotter if you said it out loud. But um man, 321 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,519 I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with me. Maybe it's 322 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:51,960 like a mental thing. I think it's just like it's so euphoric for me 323 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:56,079 because it's like I'm like getting showered with orgasm or something. I don't know. 324 00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:00,680 No, that makes it like the ultimate thank you for the guy. 325 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,839 So it's like, yeah, it's like a philosophical like thing. It's like 326 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:11,920 a like you're you see like this hot, white, steamy liquid jettisoning at 327 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,160 you, and you're like, oh my god, this is the culmination of 328 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:22,279 this man's love and desire and passion, lust and yeah and energy, and 329 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:26,759 it's all about to get all up into my eye socket. I get it. 330 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,519 Yeah, it almost sounds like the other girls we've talked to are maybe 331 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,000 a little more jaded about it, where they're like, oh, this is 332 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:34,200 just the end. I mean, this is how we finish it out. 333 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:41,039 Yeah, turn away from it. So have you have you always been that 334 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:48,400 way in terms of loads? Yeah? Okay. I thought they're gonna come 335 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,960 on me and then we're gonna fuck some more and they're gonna come on me 336 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,720 again. I'm not worried about it. Oh yeah, yeah, there you 337 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,319 go. Okay, cool, And that's the power you have, right is? 338 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:04,440 Like, so is that's like any man if he's with you, Like, 339 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:10,920 that's that's how it's going to play out two or three times. Fuck? 340 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:15,759 Yeah. Well, well don't tell my wife that sometimes it's sometimes it's 341 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,839 wrap up in time for Matt to turn over and take a rest. Now, 342 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,400 after you apologize this, she's got to get some tips from cat, 343 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,640 that's all. Yeah, dude, that's called that. We should call that 344 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:30,279 the cat Karma Guarantee. Yeah, well it's cat Karma orgasmic. Yeah there 345 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,160 you go. So yeah, yeah, go ahead. So that's kind of 346 00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:37,960 mouthie for a for a title. But we cat. We talked about this 347 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,960 last time. I am glad you were right on this, Like your branding 348 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,039 has worked perfectly and it's great, but you were you were committed to not 349 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,599 dropping that long mouthful at the end there. Huh right, you just you 350 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,920 needed KKO. Oh shit, you should call yourself KKO. That's pretty good 351 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,519 too. Yeah. Um how close is O to K in the alphabet l 352 00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:03,799 M n oh, that's pretty close. You might want to be careful with 353 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:11,599 that one. Sure, uh you know, I don't know. Um. 354 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:15,759 So going back when we we we talk about loads and such, Um, 355 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,079 did you have any bad experiences in your life with that? Or right off 356 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:25,440 the bat, was it like like, no, I'm into this because I 357 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,319 don't know Shane, if you've had the same thing, like the first time 358 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,799 you have it. I don't know. The first chick I had that tried 359 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:34,880 to swallow me and may diet. It's fine, Okay, it's not me. 360 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,559 It was her fault. She was a bit anyway. Um, that's 361 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:42,160 when you get like the throw up all over your pubis, you know, 362 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,640 not actual vomit vomit, but almost like did you ever have any bad experiences 363 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,920 like that in your life where you're just like, oh, this sucks. 364 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:56,400 I don't enjoy doing this in this moment. No, I've never had that 365 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,279 kind of experience. Fortunately, Yeah, okay, good. I love him, 366 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,599 matter of fact and adorable. She is a matt She's like, yeah, 367 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:07,240 no, loads on the face, not a problem at all. Actually, 368 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,680 um, she knows how to sell. I've never barfed up a load 369 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:21,160 on a guy's dick before. Okay, um, okay, So we talked 370 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,960 about those of the what do we have coming up that you're really like excited 371 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,640 for? Do you have more shoots planned in your own personal and actually, 372 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,799 you know what, Before we do that, let me pause and let me 373 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,759 go back. Take me through setting up a shoot, because I've seen recently 374 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:41,119 on Twitter you're actually looking for feel fear to take a drink of water anytime 375 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:42,920 you're choking and you want to die, Like, don't worry about like holding 376 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:51,240 it in and don't worry. I answer this question first, it's okay, 377 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,599 you're totally fine. We're as we're as unprofessional as it can be, so 378 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,200 just don't sweat it. Perfect upright, Um, let me say, how 379 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,279 up a shoot? Yeah, talk me through setting up a shoot? I 380 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:12,000 would say, mostly I don't do all the work by myself, my husband 381 00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:18,960 and I, Like I did post that Twitter application for co performances. Sure, 382 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:25,640 so my husband and I have to like sort through all that. He 383 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:30,759 talks to the guys a lot, a lot, a lot um when it's 384 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:36,079 a new person. We have a lot of people that we've just met. 385 00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:40,079 I don't know what I'm saying. We have friends that we've fucked up. 386 00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:45,759 Yeah, the regular guys who we've known for several years at this point. 387 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,440 But when we find new people, it's a long process. Sure, it's 388 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,279 a long true. If it's no, I totally understand and respect it. 389 00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:00,759 I have no problem. Does your husband want to pop his head on camera 390 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,559 real quick or no? If it's no, it's totally cool. Dude, 391 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,960 you don't have to. I asked him if you wanted to earlier. I 392 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,480 don't mind, all right, hop on real quick? Can I say your 393 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:15,440 first name? Or no? Yeah, you can say it, Andrew, 394 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,000 Andrew. Nice to meet you, Andrew. Love your check hair. She's 395 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:22,039 one of the coolest people we've ever talked to. She's amazing. She is, 396 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,319 so let me ask it. And I believe we talked about this. 397 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:30,000 Did you guys initially get into this swinger lifestyle when you first met. I 398 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:34,759 thought that's what it was from the conversation we first had with Kat, So 399 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,119 No, we've actually both always been into the swinger lifestyle, and we kind 400 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,400 of realized that about each other early on when we were getting together, and 401 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,720 we actually really took our time getting exploring it together because we felt the real 402 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,039 connection and wanted to make sure relationship was based on more than that. But 403 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,680 um, like six months in we started dabbling, and then about a year 404 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,720 in we kind of we're in full swing with stuff we enjoy. Sure, 405 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,599 you know, I think there's so many people who have the misconception about swinging 406 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,720 where it's almost like and again, I'm not even playing Devil's advocate and agreeing 407 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,640 with it. I'm laying out the opposing opinion to it. Right, Andrew 408 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:18,759 here, he's he likes being around Cat, and Cat likes being around Andrew. 409 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,079 But they still would prefer to go to fuck other people and blah blah 410 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,680 blah. That's not what it is at all. Right, it's you guys 411 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,759 find a connection in Well, I'm also not going to make assumptions about what 412 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:32,599 you guys do, but you guys find a connection in watching that other person 413 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,359 take pleasures what I would think it is right? You like watching them engage 414 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,000 in like you know, you know they're trying something new and I at the 415 00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,680 end of the day, you both know you're going home with each other, 416 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:52,039 right exactly. It's about the shared experience and I love them. I love 417 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:56,039 creating a safe face, a safe space for her to be able to explore 418 00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:01,799 that side in and really alledge over into ledge and have fun. Sure, 419 00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:09,319 So do you guys have any rules or anything like that set in place? 420 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:15,519 And how important is that for swinging or being involved in swinging or is there 421 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,720 and you don't obviously have to say any names or anything like that. Do 422 00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:22,559 you both at all have somebody where you're like, I just don't like that 423 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:24,160 guy, or I don't like that bitch. I don't want you to go 424 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,960 fuck that lady. Not even because of the sexual thing, but it's like 425 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,240 I just don't want to be I don't want her around talking to me and 426 00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:35,599 fucking asking me where I get my makeup and shit like that. Have you 427 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,519 ever had those experiences where you're you're you don't like, maybe the sexual chemistry 428 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:44,079 is there, but maybe you're just like, man, fuck that guy, 429 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,480 No, thanks, not interested? Yeah, I mean definitely. Um, 430 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,799 it's all about connection for us. So we met, we've gone out and 431 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,759 met with people and stuff, or just they didn't the vibe wasn't right. 432 00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:59,119 I was gonna say no because I thought he met like like, we wouldn't 433 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,640 go fuck somebody separately. We play together. I kind of how we enjoy 434 00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:06,920 things more. Yeah, I would be upset if he was going to go 435 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,680 have sex as some girl. I would just want to be there. There's 436 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,400 really nobody that I like, don't fucker. I would just I would like 437 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:19,240 to watch. Sure, So yeah, yeah, sure sure. So from 438 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,319 the outside world again, it might seem like, you know, they're just 439 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,160 free range, let it run. But at the same time, there's a 440 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,119 part of you where it sounds like there are rules and guidelines that you stick 441 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,720 to. Now, say one of you, one of you is all and 442 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,519 and if the answer is no, again, this is all preference. So 443 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,599 it doesn't it's totally cool. But if one, say, one of you 444 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,720 has to travel out of town for something and then an opportunity comes up for 445 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,039 the person the other person who's at home, are you just gonna play it 446 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:51,279 where like maybe you'll wait until the other person comes home, or is there 447 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:55,200 maybe a discussion to be had about it question with us, we would just 448 00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,680 wait, I just I prefer doing stuff with her. There's more about experience 449 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,279 in the connection between us and be able to enjoy that experience together. Sure. 450 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,239 So it's it's not even about like, oh, man, Andrew has 451 00:34:07,239 --> 00:34:10,039 a chance to fuck this ten. It's like it's like, yeah, but 452 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:14,119 I only really want to fuck the ten anyway if Cat's going to be there 453 00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:19,519 with me. Yeah, it's really that's romantic. Yeah shit, what any 454 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,199 Christian group or anything else in the world says, that's like a very sweet 455 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,679 thing. Yeah, that's what That's what I was thinking. It's like, 456 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,400 if you're if you're, if you are, if you love somebody and you're 457 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:35,599 you're really into sex with that person, there's only so many things you can 458 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,519 do before you run out of stuff to do before the idea comes up where 459 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:45,039 it's like, well, what if we involved another person or what if we 460 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:51,440 did like it? Just it naturally comes up eventually. If you're just really 461 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,719 yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. If you're really invested in 462 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,360 your sex life and you have a really strong sex life, I I can't 463 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,159 imagine that not coming up in conversation, and whether you choose to do it 464 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,519 or not, that's up to you. But the idea that you would never 465 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,119 talk about it seems unhealthy, and I think you're right, Cat, that 466 00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:16,880 would make you cheat on each other. The idea could make it pop in 467 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,000 your head. But I also don't see anything wrong with people who are just 468 00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:24,519 who want to be monogamous. Yeah, that's fine too. Anytime I think 469 00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:28,199 about, like, oh maybe we could bang this other chick blah blah, 470 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,599 I think of and this is just me as a pessimist, I go, 471 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,039 like what I said before, It's like yeah, But then I got to 472 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:36,800 listen to this broad talk all day and like, I'm not interested in that 473 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,800 she's mute. I don't want to get texts. Well, mute would be 474 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,199 good too, I don't want to get texts from her. I don't want 475 00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:46,119 to create any drama. So personally, not my lifestyle. No judgments on 476 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:52,239 people who it is, though, but I've talked about it before. I 477 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,960 personal preference here. I enjoy gang bang porn, but not because I like 478 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,360 some chick getting destroyed like just you know, boom, all these guys. 479 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,239 I like watching a chick just in ultimate pleasure, right, Like she's the 480 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,400 center of attention, and I think you guys do a really good job of 481 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,280 that. All the content you shoot is never just like Rat's getting wrecked in 482 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,719 this episode and Watcher sit on a bag of cold peas to try and bring 483 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,800 the swelling down, which I'm sure she's probably still ahead to do. But 484 00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,800 um, is that your idea behind the kind of content you shoot? Like 485 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:40,239 you want to put kat as the star of these things. And I'm in 486 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,760 the same way. I've always enjoyed Gag bay Born, and I don't particularly 487 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,679 enjoy the stuff where the girl's getting overwhelmed or looks uncomfortable. So I really 488 00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:53,239 like creating a space for her to be able to enjoy that. And even 489 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,760 when we shoot with other women and stuff, it's always I pride myself in 490 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,719 creating anvitive, safe space he said, has geared towards the women they're having 491 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,320 fun and join the experience. Sure, yeah, I mean, and you 492 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,679 know what that is? Such like a positive thing. And yet all these 493 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:13,440 positive words you say, there are groups of people who are going to be 494 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,960 like, oh no, there are people who are in miserable marriages for twenty 495 00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:22,920 years, sexless marriages, Valentine's Day and anniversary, right, and they just 496 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,239 don't. And then they'll look at you guys and be like, oh gross, 497 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,480 really yeah, heathens, monsters, host states, sinners. Yeah, 498 00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:36,639 And at the same time, it's like, I don't know, dude, 499 00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,440 at the end of the day, when your ledgers written like, don't you 500 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,280 want more positives in it than negatives? Like don't you want more experiences in 501 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,679 life? Don't you want more times when you were able to enjoy being with 502 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,039 the person you were with? Now, let me ask this as a follow 503 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,960 up to that. Have you guys ever shot something or dumbe something where you 504 00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:58,400 walk away from it at the end and you're like, and again no names, 505 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,920 where you're like, I don't want to work that guy again. He 506 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,599 either goes too rough, he did too much of this, he did something 507 00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:08,800 I didn't like, or have these And then that's not commentary on your vetting 508 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,199 skills beforehand, but it's like, who knows, you know, you vet 509 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,559 a guy, he seems great, and then in the moment you're a little 510 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:21,239 bit like, I don't love it. It definitely happens. Yeah, We've 511 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,840 had in a couple of rare instances, I've had to ask people to leave 512 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,280 mid gang bang, which is not comfortable. But most of the time I 513 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:37,079 can't think of anything more uncomfortable asking a guy to leave your place mid gang 514 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:42,440 bang. Yeah, Jesus, it's been like once or twice man back. 515 00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:45,360 Yeah, that's kind of how we've developed our regulars over time, as the 516 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,639 people we like and we jailway and Um provided the type of environment that we 517 00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,880 wanted. Respect they get the invite back and the other people don't. Sure, 518 00:38:52,960 --> 00:39:00,239 So, Kat, do you have preferences? Like again, this center 519 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,320 of the attention is you in terms of your content that you create, But 520 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,320 do you have preferences where you are you? Like, Man, I would 521 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,199 love to do a collaboration with this person because I would love to watch Andrew 522 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:14,159 fuck this chick, Like, and are there people you haven't been able to 523 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,440 get to yet that you really get to sounds like scary, like you're gonna 524 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,960 kidnap them, throw them in a fucking trunk? But yeah, or is 525 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,440 it more like just and not in a selfish or shitty way, But is 526 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,559 it more like, Hey, I want to work with it, and Andrew 527 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:36,840 will like it as well. Mum, I'm pretty much open at working with 528 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,679 anyone really? Okay, all right, Yeah, I think that's fair. 529 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,239 Andrew, is there anyone that you want to see catch? How about this? 530 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:50,400 Um? I don't know if you. Again, I've been married for 531 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,079 a long time, have great sex life. I've never had the need for 532 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,880 porn and yet I have the ultimate love for it. Um. Is there 533 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,400 any mainstream formers? And here's what we're gonna do, ladies and gentlemen. 534 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,000 This is called the magic of cutting out for social media clips later on and 535 00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,559 then tagging these ladies on Twitter. Andrew, is there anyone that you would 536 00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:12,320 want to see cat work with, like in the mainstream? Do you know 537 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,760 any names or anything that you'd want to see cat work with? Whether male 538 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,920 talent, female talent, anything like that. Um, I mean no, 539 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,960 no male names come to mind off the top of my head. I mean 540 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,599 I'd love to see hearing some shoes with some other bigger name Cornstar and I 541 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:36,719 mean her and Riley Reid would look amazing together. Man, I feel like 542 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,559 fantasy match for me. Yeah, that's a big for sure. No, 543 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,920 right, I've I've been somewhat in contact with her trying to get her on 544 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,719 this season, and it's been difficult. Uh, Dillian Harper. I think 545 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,719 if anyone knows her, I think would be a good match for Kat as 546 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:59,239 well. She's adorable, little petite chick um and uh yeah. As far 547 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:05,159 as male performers, I'd like to see Kat with just whoever makes her face 548 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,679 twist in like the most crazy way, like oh my god, you know 549 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:15,199 ust so again. Kind of touching back to what we talked about before, 550 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:22,639 Are there any do either of you got you folks have any insecurities in and 551 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,519 the answers probably no, But I just want to ask, anyway, any 552 00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:31,840 insecurities in working with somebody? Is there any does it ever pop into your 553 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,519 head in the same way that Shane made the case of you know, if 554 00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:37,079 you're with someone long enough, it's gonna pop into your head, like boy, 555 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,000 I'd like to see her with somebody else or whatever. Is there ever 556 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:44,920 any insecurity that pops in your head where you're like, man, I hope 557 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,800 Andrew doesn't like how big this chick's tits are or cheese. I hope Kat 558 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:54,000 doesn't see this dick and just think lesser of me, you know again, 559 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,599 I'm just wondering that question out loud. Is this ever just pop into your 560 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:01,440 head? And have to avoid it or have to cut it out or whatever. 561 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,719 I don't really, I don't have them personally. No, I mean 562 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,000 we have a really strong connection, and um, we have really good communication 563 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:14,480 about it too, which I think is crucial. I know it's crucial. 564 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:21,079 Um, So it never never crosses my mind, because I mean, if 565 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,599 you're invested in the relationship, I mean you guys, I mean, Kat, 566 00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:30,280 are you gonna leave? Uh Andrew because of his dick's eye? I 567 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,840 mean, which is solid. I've seen it, by the way, don't 568 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,239 let's not run this guy down, Okay, I mean solid dick. I'm 569 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,639 just thinking of one of those twelve inch wrecords I see you on like Twitter. 570 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,360 Yeah, because I mean, like, I mean, well, well 571 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,920 we'll skip the the you know, beating around the bush. I've never heard 572 00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:52,159 anybody say realistically, oh no, like we were together for years, but 573 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,000 I just decided to leave because I saw a bigger dick once. Like It's 574 00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:04,599 it's a really unrealistic um insecurity. And it's like once you've developed the relationship, 575 00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:07,840 which like you guys seem to really you must have done. Um, 576 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,519 you have so much faith in your connection, you know that that other person 577 00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,119 it's like, well, yeah, like even if she really did enjoy that 578 00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:21,320 dick, it's like, well, I mean, what about all the times 579 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,880 we watched She Go Kochi on Netflix? Is that's the name of the show 580 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:30,119 with the dancing cat. I don't know what you're talking about, but I 581 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:36,320 understand that death No Death Note was solid. I didn't watch the anime. 582 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,039 I watched the live action one, but it was solid. You know what. 583 00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:45,320 I liked Invincible on t That was a good American anime type of thing 584 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,880 where it was like good, So it was great. It was really good. 585 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,239 Um yeah, I just I don't know. I've heard it broken down 586 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,639 in the same way before. It's like, when you find somebody you love, 587 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,480 you should be with them and want to be with them, and if 588 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,760 you choose the married, get married to them, because what are you going 589 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:06,679 to do find the exact person. But with bigger tits like right, you're 590 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,000 not going to find that exact person. So if you find someone you love 591 00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:13,119 and you love being around and love interacting with and they make you laugh or 592 00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:15,400 they make you happy, stick with it. You don't buy into it. 593 00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:20,360 Um all right, We're gonna wrap up here in a few minutes. Shane. 594 00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:23,480 It's become a staple, and you've pretty much asked it in every interview 595 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,440 at this point. I'm sure we asked it the cat at the time, 596 00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:31,280 but if you could just reiterate your question, I've described many of my own 597 00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:37,480 day I don't know that's why we asked the question I have. I have 598 00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,119 other fetishes too, It's just that this is the one that we we fixate 599 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,480 on because I think it's like the most taboo one that I'm into. But 600 00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:49,639 you know what, and because I am the polar opposite in what I enjoy, 601 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,960 I think so I think I enjoy a lot and a lot of stuff 602 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,679 that you don't enjoy. I think that. No, no, no, 603 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,280 I think this question. Let's not argue about it. Well, hey, 604 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:07,360 Kat, do you like piss? I don't do that. It's a winner, 605 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,000 yep, I remember, I remember that from the first time. I'm 606 00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:14,239 pretty sure I did ask that question. And that's fine. It's not everyone's 607 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,440 preference. I like it me. I get asked that question a lot. 608 00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:20,480 She was trying to talk me into doing a piss shoot just the other day, 609 00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,920 just because she thought it would be fun for fans. But it's not 610 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,519 her thing. I like, no, I'm not gonna say I like this. 611 00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:32,280 There you go see this is why she rules. Um. So one 612 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,559 last question in terms of this, So you put out this application on Twitter 613 00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:43,159 and I guess how has the response been? Pretty good? Yeah? A 614 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,199 lot through? Sure? Now what is the reason behind Is it just you 615 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,880 want to add new talent to the pool, You want to have people to 616 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,239 go back to. Is it do you currently have a stable of people that 617 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,880 you stick to for shooting and and now you want to add new fresh blood 618 00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:01,800 that mix it in with the old group. Are you tired of the old 619 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,440 group? Did you move far away from the old group? What is what's 620 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,199 the idea behind it? Oh, I'm not tired of the old group. 621 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,679 I'm trying to make a bigger group. I want to eventually have like a 622 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:19,480 massive scene Okay, massive wow? Okay, Oh like okay, and this 623 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:23,920 is like a then this is one hundred guys, Okay. I mean that's 624 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,679 the goal, that's the vision. So it's going to take some time to 625 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,840 build, for sure. So they're they're participating, They're they're that's cat taking 626 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,400 a one hundred, not one hundred all circle around jack in or watching or 627 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:43,440 whatever. One hundred one after the other. Yeah, I mean I mightn't 628 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,360 buy you know, a couple of other girls. My vision would be like 629 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:54,079 myself and a couple other girls and we just get all our holes fucked by 630 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,599 hundred guys, and then the guys will be in line like waiting their turn, 631 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:00,760 and I would imagine some of them will probably just like, come on, 632 00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:05,440 where they even fuck me? Probably? Yeah, they won't be able 633 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,920 to contain themselves. Yeah, I have a favorite performer that you work with? 634 00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:16,320 Um? Occasionally? Do you have and it's no degradation to numbers two 635 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,679 through whatever female performers you work with. Do you have a current favorite number 636 00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:27,079 one person you enjoy working with and collaborating with or no? Oh, I've 637 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:30,800 had so much fun with collaborating with everyone. I'm really excited about my upcoming 638 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:37,960 collab with Lupe and Mitscha. It's a swinger couple. Okay, but you're 639 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,760 probably referring to I would guess Maths because I've shot with her a couple times 640 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,559 now, So yes, I am, okay, all right. I worry 641 00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:51,599 about bringing up names because I don't want it to be like, don't bring 642 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:57,079 up I don't like her? Fuck her? She didn't? Um? I 643 00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,519 like her because you guys have a very similar look. You're a little more 644 00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:06,559 curvy, she's a little more like stick figure. I'm a cat guy exactly. 645 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:13,159 Yes, it's like God crafted you differently. She was a content creator 646 00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:16,960 I forgot. I reached out to her initially because I scooled and I saw 647 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,320 her on Twitter and she I was like, that girl looks like me. 648 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,360 I actually thought it was a picture of me, and that's what I thought. 649 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:28,480 I think. I was like, wait, that's a different girl. 650 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,000 I'd like her. There you go. I think that's awesome. So I 651 00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:37,880 mean, does she run a similar ship in the way you run it? 652 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,280 Like does she have in terms of like when you're collaborating with her, does 653 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,639 she have specific people she's working with? Is she trusting the people that you're 654 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:52,360 working with and you're bringing in the guys in that sense? Or how does 655 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,039 that work? How does that like negotiation the business side of that work. 656 00:48:57,199 --> 00:49:00,519 You know, if like she comes to shoot with us, she shoots with 657 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,039 art guys, and then we went and shot with her one time and she's 658 00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:08,519 at that scene up. Okay, okay, cool, cool? Um, 659 00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:12,000 Well, look, I don't have any more questions. Do you have any 660 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,159 more questions for catching I just wanted to ask, like, when you when 661 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,079 you're setting up these scenes, like, is there a limit to how far 662 00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:24,840 you'll travel? Is it? Is it based on what your potential take could 663 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:30,039 be? Or is it just like, hey, um you you you met 664 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,599 a creator there on the other side of the country. But you like their 665 00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:37,199 look, you like the vibe, you really want to shoot content will make 666 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:42,079 it happen? How do you do it? Yeah? I would probably just 667 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:45,280 depend on everything. It's it's more like the last one. If we meet 668 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,079 someone we really want to collab with, we're willing to travel to them, 669 00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,000 especially if they're shooting similar type of content. Um as to what we like 670 00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:57,599 to do. Both of our stuff we set up locally and stuff with our 671 00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,280 regulars and stuff. But if we meet someone we really want to work with, 672 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,719 we are willing to travel for it. Okay, now here's the thing 673 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,000 I remember, and we'll end it on this and if you want me to 674 00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,639 cut it out, I'll cut it out. How's the evil step mom? 675 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,119 Oh, she's a bitch. Never talk to her, ladies and gentlemen. 676 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:21,559 We were joined today by Kat Karma Orgasmic. You can find her on Instagram 677 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:25,159 at kat Karma Oo the letter oh, not the number oh. On Twitter 678 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,400 Kitty Kat Karma two only fans go sign up. She's got like four thousand 679 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,760 pictures on there and like four hundred or five hundred videos like you will never 680 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,159 run out of content, and yet somehow I have because I've just gone through 681 00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:45,199 it all. But her only fans is Cat Karma orgasmic and on many VIDs. 682 00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:51,360 Go check her out at Kat Karma Kat. The other thing I under 683 00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:54,920 see I respect this about Kat's business acumen too, where it's almost like she's 684 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,320 got her only fans push it towards it. Blah blah blah. Now what 685 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,840 I will say is personally again, last time I give you the advice is 686 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,239 to drop the orgasmic and that didn't work out. So here's the other thing 687 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,440 I'll say. Cut up some of those clips and get them all many bids. 688 00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:12,559 Man, make yourself funny. You're doing this, work for it. 689 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,000 You deserve it, all right. You are seemed like a very sweet, 690 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:20,159 kind person. You have a wonderful, beautiful relationship with Andrew. Here. 691 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,599 You guys make your own content. You are your own bosses. I don't 692 00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:25,199 know what Andrew does. Maybe he does an also job as well. But 693 00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:30,599 in this sense, you are your own bosses. I'd guess construction. He 694 00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:32,800 looks like, are you a construction guy? Are you a cool construction guy? 695 00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:38,719 I was a personal trainer full time and then I only do that part 696 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,360 time now with some clients I've had for a long time and stuff, I've 697 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,719 had to redract more energy towards what we do because we were leaving too much 698 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,400 money out on the table by not doing that exactly. But and how great 699 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,280 is it being your own bosses? Right? I don't know. I fucking 700 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:59,039 hate my day job, so I just you know, but yes, just 701 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,440 go money, And anyone listening or watching this right now, go spend money. 702 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,480 Don't be fucking cheap. This chick rules. She provides so much good 703 00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:12,639 content that you need to drive towards it. So her only fans again is 704 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,079 Kat Karma orgasmic. All these links are in the episode description. Kat, 705 00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:19,199 thank you very much for joining us, say Andrew as well, thank you 706 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,119 very much for joining us today. Oh that's okay, I want to at 707 00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,599 the end. Sure, I thought I thought you were the whole time. 708 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,159 That's what I've been staring at. Beautiful, wonderful um for your worst friend. 709 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,679 I'm Matt, I'm Shane. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next 710 00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:44,239 week. Thanks for listening to your worst friend going