WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:07.679 This is Iye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagn Zalaz on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:14.400 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kt z 3 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:18.920 R two side at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome 4 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.079 to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 5 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:27.440 He's Jacobs as got our guy sit in today. Which is one of 6 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.320 your last time you said last day? Ye, it is last day. 7 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:34.479 Okay, maybe next week, but okay, then you're done. He's out 8 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:38.600 of here. He's bailing on us. Real world, in the real world 9 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:41.600 a little bit. I would, I would, I would go to graduate 10 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:45.479 school. It's easier stay just stay, says, stay as long as you 11 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:50.679 can find a way to find a way. Uh, welcome to the show. 12 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:53.039 Last one, so we'll let you talk because we don't have a second 13 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:57.479 We don't have a second guest. Maybe you're a guest for the second segments. 14 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.200 You didn't know that, you didn't know that this is our president to 15 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.159 you. Hey, welcome. A lot of things going on today to see 16 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.280 who gets drafted, who doesn't get drafted in the first round. Yeah, 17 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.799 you know, we we spend a lot of time talking about the draft. 18 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.680 We really haven't talked about the Arizona guys. Who are you know, in 19 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:18.400 position to get drafted? I think there's four? Right. You got Jordan 20 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:22.760 Morgan, who is supposed to go in the first round. Uh, he's 21 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:25.280 the only one this SPUs that, yeah, should be going to the first 22 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.680 thing. You got Jacob Cowing, Mike Wiley and Tanner McLaughlin. The tight 23 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.920 end, right anymore? Is that it? I think that's it? And 24 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.799 a pretty good group. Yeah, group. I would think they'd all get 25 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:38.079 drafted. You just don't know when, right, you know, they all 26 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:42.239 have an opportunity. Which would give me your order? Which which who goes 27 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:44.079 first? Again? Third? Fourth? Oh? Hell, I don't know 28 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.200 Morgan first? Yeah, well margin goes first. I think who's the who's 29 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.519 the I think the tight end? I like him a Glachlin, I mean 30 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:57.200 he's I like him at he You know, Jacob cons a little undersized, 31 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.719 but he's got speed, he can catch. He's a guy who can go 32 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.079 over the middle and hatch some balls. And you know, Mike Wiley is 33 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.439 you know, somebody's gonna have to see some value in him. And all 34 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:10.360 the different things that really does. But that's what that's what his value is 35 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:14.800 is that he can catch, he can block, you know, you know, 36 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.960 he can run. While he's a grinder, he's been durable. I 37 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:24.719 think you just gave me your order. I like that order that. I 38 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.360 think he tested well too. And then when scouts see him in person, 39 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:32.520 how big he is reliable you can catch passes it under duress. Yeah, 40 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:37.560 so I think it's it's exactly what you said, Morgan, the tight end, 41 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:44.919 uh, the re receiver and then Wiley yeah, Caroling, Yeah, 42 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:46.840 yeah, I think that's fair enough. It depends how long or how many 43 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:51.120 days it takes for all of them to go. But that's how it starts 44 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:55.159 today. It's one round today to tomorrow, right, and then the last 45 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.639 four on Saturday. Yeah, that's an all day thing. Or no, 46 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.960 they go pretty quickly. That one goes really Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, 47 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.120 no cool. We'll talk more about that later as the show progresses a 48 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.439 lot of stuff to you. I'm sure you have some breaking news, right, 49 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.800 you have a women's basketball players moving somewhere else? Oh, any of 50 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:20.039 that? Yeah? I saw well one left in idea. Didn't mention her 51 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:23.319 name, but someone she had to kick off is landed in a very very 52 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:30.599 good spot. Oh yeah, yeah, her, her, Yeah, we'll 53 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.639 get you know this party, you will talk about it, okay, yeah, 54 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:36.240 yeah, So we have our good guests in the first half. Right, 55 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:38.680 John Fien is going to join us. He was the first round draft 56 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:44.159 pick of the Buffalo Bills in nineteen ninety two, thirty one year, thirty 57 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.560 two years ago. Well, we both covered him back in the day, 58 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.039 and I woke up this morning thinking he might be around it, he might 59 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.199 be able to come back. He had him about a few months ago, 60 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.039 right, yeah, And I said, okay, Jay, prepared to be 61 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:59.800 the dumbest you and I to be the dumbest guys in the room every time. 62 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:02.400 Uh, John gets in the room. You know, he uses big 63 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:05.360 words and you know, yeah, a smart guy. He's a smart guy. 64 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:09.120 So we'll have to you know, okay, smart guy, we're not 65 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:12.960 okay, whatever you say, but a funny guy to tell, a great 66 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.759 storyteller. Uh. So we'll get with him in the first hour and in 67 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:17.759 the second hour. Un that's something falls to the roof. Yeah, we 68 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:20.639 have no guests. Yeah, we're just uh yeah, we'll just go. 69 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:25.480 But everybody was busy today. All my people were busy today. Well we 70 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.439 have a good show tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay again if 71 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.199 you want to call five two zero four one six seventy four forty. I 72 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:36.800 got scolded a little today from a from by by a friend of mine who 73 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.600 listens to the show and a lot of people. We've we've been told this 74 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.560 a lot. Jay, we don't what don't we do well on this show? 75 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.800 We do everything. We will let me tell you wrong. We don't 76 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:53.519 tell you say our interviews, interviewers, interview he's name fun enough when we're 77 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.680 talking, Yeah, were talking to We are talking to a great interview but 78 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.199 who are they talking to you? We're terrible at that. Yeah, so 79 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:01.240 you know we just got a kind of just oh John Feina and today John 80 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.639 Phenix here, John Feena, you'll say like everything. So we'll get better 81 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:08.240 at that. You know, we're always ready to im We've been scolded about 82 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.160 that more than one right, right, so we should know better. Okay, 83 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.759 So we have John Feinna and then who knows open lines? Open lines 84 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:15.120 and second hour take your calls. I would love to hear what you thought 85 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.199 think about the draft, all the movement of players. There's a lot of 86 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:23.199 activity going on in basketball, Yeah, a lot of not you of ague 87 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.879 just right, a lot all over the place. And then we have Sid 88 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:30.160 the kid finishing off his career here with us. He's got his Dodger gear 89 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.120 on today. Yeah, your shirt on. So they're winning or losing either 90 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:38.800 up one to nothing. We'll see how that goes at the end of the 91 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.160 show. All right, Well, anything else going on in your mind? 92 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:44.560 No, you know, I'm just uh, you know, coming up to 93 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:46.160 another end up another week. Uh, you know, we're starting to get 94 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.000 to that uh, you know, at that point where you know things are 95 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:54.160 happening, but it's it starts to slow down, you know, the frenzy. 96 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.680 Yeah, you know, the draft is sort of a last thing for 97 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:59.959 football. Yeah, you know, people, you know, we'll be moving 98 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.920 on of course, the transfer portal, and you know you're still hearing things 99 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:08.480 about different people doing different things and stuff. But you know when that when 100 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:13.600 that comes down, when the portal closes and that calms down, you know, 101 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.279 we'll you know, we'll see how it Saturday, right or this weekend, 102 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:21.519 doesn't it close again? Or no? Yeah, I believes May maybe 103 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:26.279 it's closed on May one, So we'll see what happens. If they don't 104 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.839 declare, I think we we're settled with Arizona people. I think everybody at 105 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:33.720 Arizona either they left to the NBA or they've gotten to the portal or whatever. 106 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.439 Well, you know, all the guys that needed to get out or 107 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:42.199 leave or whatever declare have done that. Yeah, so, uh, you 108 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.240 know, the NBA playoffs are starting to kind of kick in. There's three 109 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:49.920 games tonight. We we can talk about those. The the Suns are tomorrow, 110 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:55.399 but they're down to zip about a too. Yeah, yeah, I 111 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:59.199 think it's well, home home, home court last night. Didn't tell Miami 112 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:01.360 bet Boston that was that was that was and beat the hell out of them. 113 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:03.920 Yeah. Yeah, and there's always a doubt if you lose a game, 114 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:05.879 everyone says, well, see I told you they want that good. 115 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.759 Yeah, Boston's pretty good. Yeah, and Miami's got one of those teams 116 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.360 that they always show up in the playoffs or they show up once. Yeah, 117 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:15.879 right once. So so we'll see what happens. He'll be surprised. 118 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.199 I think Boston was a favorite next three. Boston was a favorite one, 119 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.040 right, yea, yeah, Boston was a favorite one at all. So 120 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.199 you know, but I haven't watched much of it, So I watched a 121 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:31.040 little bit of it without even gambling on it. Wow, the world is 122 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.959 any one? It's cool today in the weather. Well, here's here's the 123 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:38.879 deal. The Dodgers have been playing in the daytime. Oh, they're on 124 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:42.959 right now, and they were on at four o'clock the last few days. 125 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:45.839 So by the time I got home, catch the last you know, half 126 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:47.480 out of the Dodger game, and then put on the the NBA game. 127 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:53.120 That's why I've seen something. Yeah, okay, there's a list here. 128 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:57.079 I see. Maybe I'll pass it on to you. Said, top fifty 129 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:01.480 players with nil deals. Don't even know how we find that out, because 130 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:07.920 it's hard to put people to right. How the hell do you know? 131 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.439 I don't know. We need to talk about this. But did you see 132 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:15.680 that there was a really really interesting article in the Athletic about Kaylyn Clark. 133 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.879 No, no, well, I'm trying to get you to read the first 134 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.279 one. Hell a shoe coach. I don't want to read about her. 135 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.079 I was gonna ask you a question when the announcement that, okay, about 136 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:31.200 her, she's you. What are you talking about? You that you need 137 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.840 to read the story? God? Go go go go, no, never, 138 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.840 I'm not not talking the rest of the day. We need another guess, 139 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.519 anybody want to come. We're on the corner of Fortibo talking to you. 140 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.720 I'll I'm not talking to you. You got to read it, You'll 141 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:48.600 say, yeah, I know what Steve was talking about. It was an 142 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.519 interesting article and and you know, it tows that line of something you know 143 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.559 that makes people uncomfortable, but it talks about the fact that you know, 144 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:01.399 you can't that you know, Kaylyn Clark has got all this notoriety and she's 145 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.080 getting all these endorsements and stuff like that. And and while the writer, 146 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.840 who's been very careful to say she she deserves all of this, right is 147 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.399 it a male female? Who's the writer? A male Jim Trotter Okay, 148 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.759 says, look, I'm saying she deserves it all. She you know, 149 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:22.840 she's done incredible things for well, let's not forget or let's think about the 150 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:31.919 fact that she's a straight white female in a in a black dominated uh L 151 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:39.799 g B t Q dominated uh professional professional league. Okay, and that you 152 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:45.039 know she you know that that's the reason, that's a big reason why she's 153 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:48.159 getting she's getting. And his point is point being just point being that there 154 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.320 have been all these other players who have come along and have been great and 155 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.440 had opportunity. You know, they've been really great players, but because either 156 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.720 they're black or they're gay, they're not getting what she's Okay, we talk 157 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:03.639 about this, and I'll say this, and I'm gonna say this as carefully 158 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.759 as I can without being whatever. Uh, life is not fair. It's 159 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.519 not fair. What's your what's your last name? What's my last name? 160 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:16.320 Said? I don't even remember your last name, Lucas, but I think 161 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.320 you have some minority. Yeah, yeah, right, So we are what 162 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.840 we are. We have to beat or whatever. And I'm not this is 163 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.159 what we do. I'm not saying say sorry to me or whatever. I'm 164 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.360 not even I don't even look hispanic, so so people don't even say that. 165 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.960 But not really not traditional, not traditional. You know what I'm saying, 166 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:39.159 life is not fair. And and I'm sure Kate and Clark and she's 167 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:45.240 acknowledges that she's thanked the people people before her. Well what else can you 168 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.279 say? Right? No, there's any and and and that's what he that's 169 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.720 what the writers he said. You know, you can read this and think 170 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.440 I'm trying to disparage her or disparage any not at all. I'm just making 171 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.720 the point, sure that he's not the first person to do that. I'm 172 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:01.039 just making the point that we can't, we can't not we can't sit here 173 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.879 and ignore sure why this is one of the big reasons why this is happening. 174 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:09.480 In addition to her talent, no question in fact that that her her, 175 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:16.000 The attractiveness that corporations and what I have sure is because of what she 176 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.279 looks like and who she is. Who are off the court? Whose fault 177 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.159 is that? Nobody's exactly. In fact, I read a story earlier this 178 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.960 week about the shoe deal because she made a time of uh delead on the 179 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:35.039 tall blonde woman. I think she's a gays no, no, no, 180 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:41.159 before delodon she's a pretty good player. Uh I asked you, she's a 181 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.919 fantastic player. She's white. They made the connection of three people or four 182 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:50.240 people who have made shoe deals are all white. Yep. And what about 183 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.960 that? You know what I'm saying. So there's always a story or a 184 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.039 storyline that you can kind of It's like it's like numbers. If you wanted 185 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:00.799 to do a story of numbers, you use the ones that theer there the 186 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.360 fit the narrative of the story, right, and this is what it is. 187 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:07.440 I don't I don't fault the writer because that's what he wanted to write. 188 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.919 Yeah. Uh, but it's corporate America. It's the world we live 189 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.240 in. It's just corporate America. It's it's the world we live in America. 190 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.639 Right, turn on the TV right now, and you're going to see 191 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:26.679 fighting countries, students right, left, right right. We'll never get along. 192 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.080 Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's been how many years, hundreds 193 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.360 of years, hundreds of years, thousands of you tomorrow's gonna change right, 194 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.559 right, and and and again not you know again, we're it's This is 195 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.639 one of the discussions I debated with myself as to whether or not I was 196 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:45.799 going to bring this. No, it's a good topic. I feel like 197 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.279 like we need to but uh, you know, here, here, here's 198 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.879 what. Here's a line it said, she's not only deserving of every every 199 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.080 opportunity, but has also earned every endorsement deal that's been placed before her, 200 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:01.679 including a twenty million dollar pack that includes her own signature shoe line. But 201 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.519 that being said, we should not delude ourselves into believing her appeal as an 202 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:11.039 influencer is based solely on basketball, because it's not okay, okay, uh, 203 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.639 your little said and you're eating that Oregano's up. Sorry to bother you, 204 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:18.279 coach, but yeah, you're gonna bother you. And here's the story. 205 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:22.759 Here's uh this this. She's a pretty good player, pretty good player. 206 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.519 But but but she's a white girl who plays basketball. And on top 207 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:31.879 of which she's from the Midwest. Right, there's no right or wrong. 208 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.799 If you get it, if you have an if you have if you have 209 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.799 a U a subscription to The Athletic. It's worth a read by James Trotter. 210 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:43.039 Came out today. For Jim Trotter. It's a great story in terms 211 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:52.159 of its thoughtfulness. It's towing a very uncomfortable subject and it puts it out 212 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.679 there in a way that you're not gonna sit there and say he's a racist 213 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.159 or where right right right, It's just saying this is what it is. 214 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:05.759 And if we're different, differ thinking it's not, then your your your sorely 215 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:07.080 mistakes, Well, then that's me. That means he did a great job 216 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:13.159 of too. I thought I thought he really did. And that's that's not 217 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.960 true. It's not and it's not easy to do. He backed it up 218 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.120 with facts. There were a lot of facts in there. Aren't you glad 219 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:24.440 you're not getting it into this business? Yeah, that's what I wanted to 220 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.039 get into, of course, of course. Yeah. It was really good. 221 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.559 It's a good story. Look at I'll read that before you read the 222 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.639 most story. Forget, I'm just not reading the multi story. You gotta 223 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.200 read. It's a fantastic story. Maybe because you'll know more about her, 224 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.759 that's it. I don't want to know more about it. But you know 225 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.039 that's exactly because it's your your your opinion is skewed. 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Steve Prepera and Jacob Salaz have their eye on the fall 300 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:07.839 on Tucson Sports. Stay Chef Fox Sports fourteen fifty Hey, welcome back to 301 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.599 the ball. Here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivero, He's 302 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:15.279 Jacob zawis now on the phone. We have John Fina nineteen ninety two NFL 303 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:19.160 number one draft pick. How are you doing Johnson? Hey? Hey, 304 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.920 I'm doing great. How were you a draft day, baby, Draft day, 305 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.319 Baby? What was going through your mind that day? For you? 306 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:32.480 I was just hoping to get drafted. I was thinking maybe third or fourth 307 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.759 round, and I was excited to be there. Okay, so you were 308 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:40.480 surprised. I'm guessing how surprised were you were you? Did you have any 309 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:45.359 I mean, any idea that you were going first round? The only inkling 310 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:51.440 I had was a workout I did with Bill Belichick who said to me that 311 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:56.240 he couldn't He was upset because he couldn't draft me at fifteen and he said, 312 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.000 You're a first rounder and I'm gonna miss you. So that was the 313 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.880 first time I thought, Holy cow, I got a shot at this thing. 314 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:08.759 How close was the draft by that time? Oh, this was probably 315 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:15.240 in March when he came to Phoenix to work me out. Wow, So 316 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.039 then you must have impressed another one or two for sure by the time the 317 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:23.799 draft came. Well, you know, I think once you get past the 318 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:27.240 second round, everybody sort of is in the same boat, right. The 319 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:32.319 teams don't really tell you. You got a bunch of people like me and 320 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:37.160 you and Jay who make a draft board, and guests and guests and guests. 321 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.480 But until you until draft day comes and that team has a pick. 322 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.279 You don't know where you are on their draft board. So were the Bills 323 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:49.000 on your radar? Did you know that they were that interested in you that 324 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:56.400 that could happen? What did you know about what they were thinking? I 325 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.839 really didn't know much of anything. I mean, they sent a scout out. 326 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:03.559 He was one of probably about sixteen scouts that I met with, and 327 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:08.119 we did a simple little drill, a foot speed drill that took about five 328 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.079 minutes. He packed up his gear, said thank you and left. I 329 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:17.200 didn't know if that was good or bad or what. And I really didn't 330 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:21.640 have any contact with the team. I did get I did take a visit 331 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:26.920 to Denver and meet with meet with those coaches, But beyond that, I 332 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:30.480 mean, there was never really any talk about where you were going to go. 333 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:37.119 You must have ensured those feet for a lot of money, that's right, 334 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.240 baby, Yeah, you must be a good dancer. Okay, So 335 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.119 you know you sounded really excited when you came on talking about Okay, it's 336 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.119 a draft day. You know, how much fun have you had with draft 337 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.200 day? Knowing that it was a great memory for you? You know, 338 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.160 how do you how do you absorb the draft, or how do you, 339 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:00.559 you know, take it in well, first and foremost, you know, 340 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.160 I'm a fan of the Buffalo Bills and the Arizona Cardinals, and I'm not 341 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:08.200 one of these people that writes down or carves in stone the kids I think 342 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.920 that they need to pick. I just I just let it all unfold. 343 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.359 I let it come to me. I try to watch a few highlights here 344 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.880 and there, and I just try to get excited for the kids to get 345 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:25.079 picked. You know, the NFL has turned this into an amazing spectacle and 346 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.480 they have ramped it up beautifully. It's fun to watch, it's engaging, 347 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.559 and it's ten times better than an NBA game. So where were you when 348 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:36.680 when you got the call? Were you in Tucson? Were you doing anything? 349 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:42.319 My agent had about seventeen to twenty players in that draft, and they 350 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:48.279 had rented a ballroom up at the Princess Resort in Scottsdale. So we had 351 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.559 a big breakfast and everybody kind of sat in the ballroom with the TV on 352 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.039 and we just kind of sat around and watched the draft. Were you his 353 00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:02.960 first guy to go? Probably first guy within his group? Yeah, the 354 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:08.119 second guy was the second rounder linebacker out of Florida named Spatotski, and then 355 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.960 a couple other guys got drafted, and then a bunch of guys did not 356 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:18.519 wow. Well, so okay, then I think I'm not one hundred percent 357 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.200 sure. We've talked about this, but I'd like to know what happens after 358 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:22.519 that. You're a number one pick, so they're going to want to make 359 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:26.759 a big deal that you're a number one pick. So what were the days 360 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.839 like after that? When did you go to Buffalo and you know, start 361 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:34.279 doing media and all that kind of stuff. Well, back in those days 362 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:38.960 after the draft, you had a mini camp within a week. So I 363 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:44.200 think I got drafted on a Saturday, and then I was flying to Buffalo 364 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:47.640 within three or four days. You know, it's kind of a whirl when 365 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.400 you say send you a ticket, you get off a flight, you get 366 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:52.799 off the flight, there's somebody there to pick you up, draft you off 367 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.960 at a hotel and tell you they'll be there at six am. And you 368 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.319 know, for four days, your head is spinning. You don't know what 369 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:00.640 the hell you're doing. And it's Buffalo, New York in April, and 370 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:06.279 it's it's thirty six degrees and you think where in the Sam Hill am I 371 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.839 And you're probably thinking, my life just changed for the best. Oh it 372 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:17.240 was, it was incredible. I loved it. You know. Nowadays what 373 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:21.960 they do is they fly in probably their first and second round picks the day 374 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.759 after. So whoever your team picks, the team jet will be at the 375 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:32.440 tarmac the next morning and you are flying all the way back to your de 376 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:37.480 city and there's going to be a lot of fanfare and it's a lot more 377 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.119 exciting now. And I think, you know, because the fans want availability 378 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.759 to the players, they do a lot more showcase with the fans. They 379 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.400 get the fans riled up, amped up, and then they just try to 380 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.920 keep that excitement rolling. Yeah, yeah, right, I mean it has 381 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.599 become, you know, quite a spectacle, and it is it's going to 382 00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:56.960 be again, you know, the next couple of days, starting in a 383 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.359 little in about an hour and a half. Do you like what it's become? 384 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.680 Is that cool? Is it fun? You? You know? Is 385 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:10.720 it interesting to you? I do like what it's become because when they have 386 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:15.039 the kids live in the green room and when they have them walking up to 387 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:19.319 the stage, and it's become such a great production I think the fans really 388 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:23.039 get engaged, and you know, look, it's a business, right They 389 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:29.440 want to sell jerseys, hats and tickets and create all kinds of fun online 390 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.680 with fantasy football, and that's the business. But I think they've done it 391 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:38.200 in a way that is approachable, friendly and enjoyable for the fan. I 392 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.640 was going to ask you this might be it's a hypothetical because it doesn't make 393 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.759 sense right now, but how life changing was it? And I asked this 394 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.279 because what if you had not been drafted at all or even played in the 395 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:55.240 league. You're a smart guy. What would you have done otherwise? Well? 396 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:59.079 I was pre med at Arizona. I was a Spanish miner. I 397 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:03.160 took a lot of in literature study courses, and I my entire life I 398 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.440 thought I was going to be a doctor like my dad. I thought I'd 399 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.119 be in practice with my pops and fixing knees and hips and ankles and things 400 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.599 like that. So, you know, had I not been drafted, or 401 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.759 if I went to a camp and didn't make a team, I probably would 402 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.319 have been, you know, taking the mcat and trying to get into medical 403 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:29.240 school. I told you he was smart. I told you you know it's 404 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:33.240 still early. You know, your son's over u c l A been a 405 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.480 couple of years. The other son doing some great stuff. Are you talking 406 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.640 to him about any of this yet? Is it too early? Is it 407 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:45.000 maybe not for you? I mean, how are you walking your son through 408 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:49.319 his experience based on what you what you experienced? Yeah, man, that 409 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:55.119 is a great, great question, right And what I tell Bruno is, 410 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.680 if you want to play in the league, you forget about the league right 411 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:03.119 now and you focus on everything you can do to get yourself better right now, 412 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.000 right here. All of that stuff, all that stuff will take care 413 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.559 of it. But keep in mind there's about one hundred and fifty things that 414 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.680 have to go right right before you even get to the draft or before you 415 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.519 get a free agent contract. There's you know, it's nice to dream big 416 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:23.559 as long as you're doing your knitting at home. Yeah, that's a great 417 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.799 point. This is probably a silly question, you know, do you see 418 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.240 that potential in him to you know, be that guy and you know, 419 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.279 be an NFL player, maybe even be a first round pick. Does you 420 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:40.599 have your feet? What do you see so far? Well, he has 421 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.119 the potential as an athlete, he has the potential. You know between the 422 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.400 ears, he's an incredibly smart kid. I think, you know, we're 423 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.119 most proud of him for the fact that he's carrying a three six three seven 424 00:28:52.200 --> 00:29:02.599 gpa UCLA uh in business economics. So I think that what he doesn't fall 425 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:06.880 into the line with a lot of measurables for tackles in the NFL. But 426 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.720 if nowadays, if you can be a guy who is a resource at four 427 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:15.559 positions, you know, maybe maybe right tackle, both guards, and center, 428 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:21.519 you have an inherent value to a team because you can only really activate 429 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.319 you know, seven or eight offensive lineman on a weekly basis. So a 430 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.960 guy like that who can spread himself across the organization is a is a huge 431 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:37.160 value. And it starts with brains, it finishes with your athletic ability, 432 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.319 and uh, you know, I think because of that, he definitely has 433 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.640 a chance. I wouldn't say first round, second round. Uh you know, 434 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.240 we've seen We've seen enough stories of guys that have gone seventh round or 435 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:55.240 undrafted who become real impact players in the league. I was gonna say, 436 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.160 well, you know, Jordan Morgan, Arizona guy he's in, he's sort 437 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.599 of a position that you ended up being in. He's considered a first round 438 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.920 maybe a late first round draft pick. If you're sitting with him right now, 439 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.000 an hour and a half before the draft, what would you be telling 440 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:17.839 him? Oh man, I'd be telling him it doesn't matter if you're in 441 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:22.240 the first round or the second round for what's going to come next. When 442 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:29.000 you're on the field, be on time, be ready to work, and 443 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:34.160 you know, be flexible. Jordan's a great looking kid. I mean, 444 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.319 he can play both tackles. I think he can fit in at guard extremely 445 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.599 well. He's got the form for it. I mean, my wish for 446 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:48.720 Jordan Morgan is to take my title to get drafted twenty six or earlier and 447 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.240 be the first two sow in, you know, drafted offensive line in the 448 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.240 first round, best position. You know. I would love for him to 449 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.920 take that mantle away from me. Yeah, no, great, great, 450 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.480 good for you. Let me ask you if we could. You're in a 451 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:08.039 spot where you didn't receive nil many many years ago, but your son has 452 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.559 that chance to what do you think the world we live in? What do 453 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:18.759 you think about it? With the nil? Well, you know it's a 454 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.720 pendulum, right, So twenty five years ago, if you asked me what 455 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.559 they were doing wrong is I'd have said they need to double their scholarship checks, 456 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.440 they need to give them five thousand dollars into an IRA and let them 457 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.759 buy Cobra insurance as if they were an employee for the rest of their lives. 458 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:40.599 And you probably would have seen it evolve into a reasonable format, unlike 459 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.160 what we have today, which is a wild wild West. So what do 460 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.319 I think about it? I think it's good. I think its current form 461 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:55.640 is a little out of control. But I think it'll re C two a 462 00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:01.559 with a chokehold on an asset that creates revenue for which they don't see any 463 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:07.559 realized gain from. Right. Yeah, No, it's crazy. Like you 464 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:13.920 said, it's absolutely it's absolutely nuts. So so do you ever have a 465 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.640 chance to talk to the other Arizona guys too much about all of this, 466 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.119 you know, the experience that you that Gland, some of the other you 467 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:22.880 know, some of the other high draft picks that you know at Arizona have 468 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:30.200 had, and what this is like for them. Not really, I mean, 469 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.680 when the old guys get together, you know, interestingly, we talk 470 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:38.079 more about our college days and we talk more about the friendships and the camaraderie 471 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.799 that we had in college, because when you get to the NFL, you 472 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:47.640 are a team, but it's not the same type of atmosphere. The environment 473 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.799 is a little bit different. It's almost like your contract workers. You want 474 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.039 to keep together as a team, but in college you're able to corral some 475 00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.759 of the personalities and keep things from getting out of control. And I think 476 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:07.359 there's a greater understanding that the team effort in college is probably, you know, 477 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.480 a bigger benefit to an entire team than a few stars. Yeah, 478 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.200 no question. Let me ask you real quickly, because we talked. They 479 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.920 had the poll in the NBA toughest coaches to play for? Who would you 480 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:21.559 rather play for? All that stuff. Who was your toughest coach? And 481 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:25.400 how was it and how did you deal with it? Yeah? I was 482 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:30.480 lucky. I didn't have that kind of coaching in the NFL. That was 483 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:35.839 just over the top, too many collisions, yeah, trying to kill you. 484 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.480 In training camp. I did have a coach that I didn't think was 485 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:45.960 a very good coach. But we weren't punished physically. We weren't forced to 486 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.599 put ourselves in positions for injury. And I think that that that kind of 487 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.759 looks back at the whole asset class, right, You can't. You can't 488 00:33:53.759 --> 00:34:00.440 put people out of commission when the when the labor pool is so small in 489 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:06.160 college. Thankfully it's evolved such that they don't have the collision collisions anymore, 490 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.280 just because it's the right thing to do, right. You can't just go 491 00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:13.800 out there and beat each other to death every day, even though you've got 492 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.320 guys on the second, third, and fourth team. I think it's a 493 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:22.159 much better way to run the game now. I'm not convinced that the lack 494 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.639 of preparation and hitting is leading to fewer injuries. It might be leading to 495 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.719 more. I think there's got to be a comprehensive study out there about that. 496 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.599 But I could tell you, as a player going through it, I 497 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:40.719 appreciated a more cerebral and measured approach to training camp than a you know, 498 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.800 than a than a battlefield approach. Yeah hear that? Yeah? I can't 499 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.800 even imagine you know what that had to be lying right? Right? Right? 500 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.039 Okay, Well, thank you John on your feet for being an NFL 501 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:59.320 number one draft pick. Guys. I love it. I love hanging out 502 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.880 with you. I'm a excited for the draft, and anybody listening whoever your 503 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.800 team is. Just trust that their leadership knows just a little bit more than 504 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.159 you and they're trying to win a super Bowl, and let him make those 505 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:15.199 decisions and put the right team together you're hoping for. The fans know everything, 506 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.239 John, You know that. Thank you man, Thanks about thank you, 507 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.639 appreciate it. He's funny because it's true because the fans know everything. 508 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.239 It's crazy. I love talking to him. He's a good dudes. That 509 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.519 was great. All right, we're gonna take our break. We're gonna come 510 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.119 back. We'd love to take your cause. Five two zero four wood six 511 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.760 seventy four to forty. Our lines are up in the rest of the show, 512 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.679 So give us a buzz, even during breaking news, when you know, 513 00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:37.800 if you want to give us a call, then that's the only time 514 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.039 you can call. It. Would love to hear from you. Five two 515 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.880 zero four one six seventy four to forty. We're right back. If you're 516 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.559 an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. 517 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.719 Now take a look back at the Ludelsen era in my new book, 518 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.440 Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love to the eyes of twenty 519 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.199 five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight to the coach and 520 00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.559 the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them. 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I don't think we 557 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:46.119 did it, you said, John. Hey. Dodgers win. Dodgers win 558 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.159 three, two to one final, Dodgers win, beat the Nationals, sweep 559 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.280 three games, sweep at the Nationals. This is the alls right world. 560 00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:00.119 I have it this day in baseball history for you. Go ahead, forty 561 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:05.480 third, forty eight years ago, forty eight years ago. Give me the 562 00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:07.440 year. God, I'm not gonna go backing seventy six. Oh okay, 563 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.079 well I couldn't get this right in your wheelhouse. Okay, this stay in, 564 00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:16.239 this stay in in baseball. It involves it involves the Dodgers. Ooh 565 00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:21.400 h Dodgers has all was a big d Reads fans seventy six. They were 566 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.079 a fantastic team. Uh they had a Dodgers were good to you back then. 567 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.719 So uh, some don't do not know. It also involves the Cubs. 568 00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:37.679 I don't know something that happened during the Cubs Dodgers game. I don't 569 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.719 know those guys that tried to set a flag on fire at during the game 570 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.679 at Dodgers Stadium. And Rick Monday, who was playing center field for the 571 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.719 for the Cubs. I think I snapped the flag. I've seen that. 572 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.400 I've seen them to highlights somebody. Yeah, yeah, let's take this call. 573 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.320 Hi, you're on the air and on the ball. Hey, what's 574 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.800 up, guys? Is big Vick? What's up another Dodger? Oh no, 575 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.159 he Vic, damn baby, I was good. Watched it for eight 576 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.239 years ago. Today, Vic, we were just talking about it. Rick 577 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.360 Monday grabs the flag in centerfield. The guys are trying to set off fire, 578 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:14.000 remember that. Yeah, like yesterday yeah, that they get. I'm 579 00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.920 just brought it up because they were talking about it. I was listening to 580 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.320 the Dodger game on the way in and Rick Monday was was talking about all 581 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.039 the stuff that came with that. But anyways, Yeah, I wanted to 582 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:30.000 touch on the Caveman things and I kind of wanted to get Steve is kind 583 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.679 of right. It's uh, it's kind of the way of the world. 584 00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.719 You gotta fight through it. I think you guys know, I'm from California. 585 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:44.599 We lived in East LA and had to travel to Orange County or in 586 00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.320 the fire to play softball because that's where, you know. We played on 587 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:54.400 all white teams. We're the only two Mexican girls there. And sometimes it 588 00:40:54.559 --> 00:41:00.960 was tough and sometimes then you get a fair shot. I have a my 589 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:05.199 little cousin that I think I've told you played at modern day. He would 590 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.360 score twenty points and Brook demetior that Stamford now with four ten and Brooke would 591 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.920 get the player of the game, and you'd wonder, like, but but 592 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:21.280 it goes always a look at Snoop Dogg. He's transitional now and Grandma's and 593 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.599 I will love the guy. Yes, and a guy was a crip and 594 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:28.719 a murderer or alleged murderer, and how did how did he break that down 595 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.320 those barriers? Yeah, and you know, and it takes certain kind of 596 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.599 people to do that because there's a lot of people who help the barriers stay 597 00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.119 up with with the way they do things as well. And you know, 598 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.880 we we know that. But yeah, no, it's it, and it's 599 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:44.039 it's a thing that that will you know, We've always struggled with it. 600 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.960 We'll continue to struggle with it. We struggle with it in this country every 601 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:51.199 freaking day. But my thing is, though, guy, if you're a 602 00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.519 good person like Caitlin, it's good with kids, And why does it matter 603 00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:58.480 if you're white, black, or indifferent? You know, that's the that's 604 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.760 the whole. That's it right there. It shouldn't it shouldn't, but it 605 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:06.840 does, but often does. And you guys know much. I love women's 606 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.599 basketball. I go to all the games and and all those girls. Man, 607 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:14.599 they come out and shake hands with all the fans that they pictured and 608 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.880 all that. How else are you gonna get your selfies? Yeah, there 609 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:23.559 you go, that's right. So, but I just want to throw my 610 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:28.239 two cents in. I'm a fan and I think I always will be. 611 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.679 I. I love that kid's game, and I love her personality even more. 612 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.639 Yeah. No, And if you're if you're a corporate person, you 613 00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.760 want your your symbol or your product to be sold. Why not? Right 614 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:47.079 exactly? Heck yeah, why not? You know my next million I'm giving 615 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:52.719 to you guys as a sponsorship. So you guys are so good looking and 616 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.239 personable. Well, don't let it us, but just do the million, 617 00:42:54.280 --> 00:43:00.119 don't. You don't have to let us to give to it. But hey, 618 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.960 thanks for a good call. I'm kind of right. He just thought 619 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:06.440 I was right. He just got backed up my theory. We got our 620 00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.760 second guest for the second hour, Corey Williams, or I had. I'll 621 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.440 show you why why, I asked him on the break. Okay, all 622 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.599 right, we'll get Corey Williams to join us here in the second hour. 623 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.440 But you know, and look, we could talk. It's a touchy subject 624 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.440 for a lot of people. It is it is. It makes people uncomfortable. 625 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:28.599 But on the other hand, there sometimes you have to talk. Sure, 626 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.480 sure, like I said, the guy must have towed the line perfectly 627 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.000 in the middle. Uh uh? And is there a right or wrong answer? 628 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.440 Probably not. Yeah. I mean probably you can tell because there's nobody 629 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.840 raging at him from either side of the argument. On social media, people 630 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.880 more more people say you got to read this because it makes a lot of 631 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.320 sense. That's what it does, right, Okay, Okay, no, 632 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.280 good, Good to talk to John Fena. We'll see the It starts one 633 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.679 now soon, five o'clock, five o'clock. Okay, after our after the 634 00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.159 show ends. Yeah, after our show, the program comes on, so 635 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.199 we won't have we won't have a draft pick before we leave. Okay, 636 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.760 good, So we have Corey at about four eighteen. We'll talk about the 637 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.159 college basketball season that was he has. He had a great meme on his 638 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:12.960 Facebook page today. I said's let's talk about that because it's very true. 639 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.000 All right, let's take this call, all right, on the air and 640 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:19.480 on the ball. Good afternoon, you guys. This is Gabe. How 641 00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:21.960 you guys are doing? Good? Gabe? Do we need to put our 642 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.599 thumb on the old, the du the dumb button for a customard here or 643 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:31.760 no? I'm not going to say my favorite war and starts with the D 644 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:38.639 and what's the app? Yeah? Thank you? What's going on? How's 645 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:44.840 everything going Arizona related? Well? We're just kind of waiting for news. 646 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:46.840 We have the spring game, right, I'm sure you'll be looking at that 647 00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.719 or hopeful for that. We're waiting for the transfer portal to come through for 648 00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.119 for Arizona, both men's and women's. Yeah, I'm surprised. Well, 649 00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:01.840 Jay, knock home wood for me because I'm out in about so please knock 650 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:09.320 on word hopefully. You know. Judas Fish didn't doesn't catch up in Washington. 651 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:16.880 So Brennan so far, uh so good with with allowing players to uh 652 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.320 stay at Arizona. And he's the right coach. I'll tell you what. 653 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:27.119 Right now, you need to Fish. You need to write for a comedian 654 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.480 or something like that, because you're just cracking me up with some of that 655 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.199 stuff. Judas Fish. Judas Fish, I like that. I like that. 656 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.280 I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. I haven't haven't heard of that. 657 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:38.079 I haven't heard of it at all. But that's a good one. 658 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:46.000 So Arizona has so in football related Arizona have fisteen scholarships, uh open. 659 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.159 I was it may be fewer because I think they've gotten a couple of guys, 660 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:53.079 but I don't. It's something it was in that it was in that 661 00:45:53.239 --> 00:46:00.679 range. Yes, So I'm guessing Brett Brennan has has a lot of to 662 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.559 tell the players who are in the transfer portal. Hey, we have open 663 00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:08.639 spotsible youth, so come in and fail up our positions. And honestly, 664 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:17.320 Tommy Lloyd basketball player from the transfer yesterday. So yeah, and another I 665 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.079 still I think I called you guys a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't 666 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:28.360 a week ago, and I basically said that Funeral Layer Arizona is eventually gonna 667 00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:34.599 have their players being being being played being employees. I think that still needs 668 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.119 to happen right right now? Yeah, you did? You did? I 669 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.840 think it might eventually be looked at down the road with everybody because if you 670 00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.639 have one or you know what, it's just it's either gonna happen all you 671 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.480 know what, what's gonna What when it's gonna happen? Uh uh gave is 672 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.000 when the court orders it to happen. That and that's a possibility and that 673 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:59.440 and that's that's impressed. We're still might be a year maybe two years away 674 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.119 from that, but it's ultimately going to happen. That's the only way to 675 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:05.000 fix what's going on here. So Gabe, let me ask you a quick 676 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:08.360 question. I know, after games you've talked to another radio show or not. 677 00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:20.400 Have you been cheating on us? I suppose local radio. Good local 678 00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:25.280 media. Good answer, good answer, game good. Well, we got 679 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.039 to hit that button. Be careful. Thank you gave thanks about I appreciate 680 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:35.320 it. Always did he say what I thought? He said? I'm no, 681 00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.000 yeah, okay, you did. Okay, you did. I guess 682 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.119 that's okay. Well, I don't know chake that in the book. I 683 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.920 mean, I gotta go into the FCC book to see that's the word that's 684 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:51.440 allowed. That was good to talk to Gabe. Listen to listen to game 685 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.199 man. Have you are you looking at the pictures of what the draft looks 686 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.360 like in Detroit? Because they just they have it. It's like at a 687 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:04.880 big outdoor bandstand. There have to be a half million people there. I 688 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.199 mean, it's it. It looks like one of those Uh have you ever 689 00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:13.920 been in Detroit? Well no, it looks like one of those you know, 690 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.760 super Bowl parades or whatever, right right, just a massive people. 691 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:22.519 Yeah, go to have fun. Be careful. Yeah, I've been to 692 00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.800 an arbor or you know a couple of those driven in got out. It's 693 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.679 too damn cold. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so you're gonna have 694 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.320 breaking news in about four or five minutes. I have the I have. 695 00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:38.679 I was referring to this at the beginning, the UH Top fifty college basketball 696 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:44.239 players rankings in the highest from the highest NIL deals at least six hours ago. 697 00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:47.840 There's a surprising guy at thirty four. But I'll give you explanation of 698 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.440 home we go to that, you know, unless you want to talk about 699 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.480 it now, pretty okay. So I wanted to look just here to see 700 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.519 if I an Arizona players who would be at thirty four basketball? If it's 701 00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:06.559 in Arizona, it's an Arizona player, the like I mean, like you. 702 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.920 It could be somebody who's maybe gone, or somebody who could be for 703 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:15.199 the last last year's team. Jade Brad no love love thirty four. Here's 704 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:20.679 the kicker. Here's the kicker. Current NIL evaluation, undisclothed, undisclosed. 705 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.119 So how did you get to thirty four? If you don't even know then 706 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:28.639 he Yeah, you're just assuming this or what you put him on thirty four, 707 00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:32.079 but don't have his numbers? What school had the number one? I'm 708 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.679 going down just to see if But that was my first one, going from 709 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.360 top fifty to one thirty four. I stop because it's kiddle Bluff. But 710 00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:42.920 they don't give you a number. What's the point in that? Yeah, 711 00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.239 I don't know, because these guys aren't talking about it unless they unless it 712 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:50.199 comes out publicly, you know, because somebody. Yeah, I have no 713 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.360 idea, honestly. Well, it's kind of like trying to do a you 714 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.599 know, inn early top twenty five for next year when you don't know exactly 715 00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.639 for anybody, right, But because that's what that's what we're seeing right now. 716 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.679 They're all doing these you know, top twenty fives in in in all 717 00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.519 the sports you don't even know who's playing, right, I'm just gonna go 718 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.760 back down. We got two minutes, don't mind me. Who's Who's Twitter 719 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.440 feed? Is that on? It's a it's a Is it a story? 720 00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:20.280 Or is it a a? Is it a post? It's suppose you know 721 00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.039 it's a story. It's a story. I'm on MSN MSN dot com and 722 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:27.320 it comes up. These kind of have random type of things. Sometimes they're 723 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.039 legit. Sometimes they're kind of like what and this is yeah, it comes 724 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:35.320 on my my website no matter what. And it's just kind of strange because 725 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.119 there's no there's no ooph to it. I mean, it's just like numbers, 726 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:42.920 somebody making stuff kind of well, kind of like the Twitter world that 727 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.719 we listen to, you know, Barstool Sports and all that stuff is just 728 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.199 one guy's opinion. Yea, where you get it right, right exactly? 729 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.079 I've got I've gotten caught a couple of times where I, you know, 730 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.800 put you know, retweeted something and then somebody comes, hey, guys, 731 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.880 that was that's a fake that's an onion type of Yeah, that's a fa 732 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.039 it's a fake Twitter account, right, you got busted. But it happens. 733 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:12.119 But no, I you know, I don't know one of the things 734 00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.559 that they want to do, and I don't know how they'll I don't know 735 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:22.519 how you can require that. One of the rules are trying to write into 736 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.400 this if if, if they become employees is how much everybody's getting paid? 737 00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:32.280 Sure, sure you got another one number three number three? So are they 738 00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.960 are they recording that he's getting the one point two million? They're saying current 739 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:42.000 valuation? This is this is what one million program Indiana? Okay, yeah, 740 00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.880 I guess that evaluation is different from that's how much. Yeah, well 741 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.960 evaluation, that's what their measurement by. They had nothing for Caleb. Now 742 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.920 he's number three. Obviously number one is obviously Ronni James four and a half. 743 00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.840 But bollow, holy craft. You know, did you see Balla play 744 00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:07.119 the sure Oh never mind, never mind. He's gonna break before I get 745 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.119 in. Tried to, you know, let's stop, all right, We're 746 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.039 gonna take a break and we're gonna come back. So it's gonna bring us 747 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.039 some breaking news, and I hope it's good because we've been bad so far. 748 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:17.119 We'll be right back.