WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.960 The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.160 the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:16.359 As always, listener discretion is advised on what are your pot We got someone 4 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:26.280 or something crawling around out here? Does a legend walk among us working in 5 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:33.439 the forests of our world? Do you see what it was? Well, 6 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:36.880 that a person or an animal or I can't go all that knowledge that my 7 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.600 thunder light came on and I did that with a glimp, and see this 8 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:43.640 thing running across the yard, a good sized man or something. It worked 9 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:51.600 like a man. I don't know what it was. For over fifteen years 10 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:57.520 we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insight 11 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:04.159 and truth around the existence of this mysterious entity. Jesus quo, Carol, 12 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:11.480 Hello, get somebody out here. What's good amount there? I thought of 13 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:15.079 a mention about thick fo All right, I don't know easy amount there? 14 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.640 Yes, I'm working right out. Okay, hang on, he's right, 15 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.280 Get in your yard. Turn yeah, I got you big, Okay, 16 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:33.400 what are you doing? Your yard. We're gonna bring you join us as 17 00:01:33.439 --> 00:02:00.879 we continue into the investigation of the Sasquatch Experience. And good evening, folks, 18 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:05.159 Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience for Monday, May Aids, twenty twenty three. 19 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:07.800 I'm Sean the Fort Shop Forker. He's vans Nesbit. That's good old 20 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.599 JB. James Baker down there, Matt at the world, Matt at a 21 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:19.840 lawnmower, but ready to get ready to get a month. For as little 22 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.159 as a month, you can continue to support Sasquatch Experience. Get the show 23 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:28.280 ad free, and starting this week or next week, you're going to get 24 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:38.240 a new feature from James and myself. James and I reacting to the stories 25 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:46.319 on Reddit, which we thought would be an interesting take for all these weirdly 26 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:51.199 posted Internet things. I've been reading through. Some of them have some interesting 27 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.280 opines, and I just thought, ma man, this is something we need 28 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.159 to get Baker's take on. And on a Monday morning, when he and 29 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:59.080 I are out and about doing our drives, are working on the land, 30 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:07.439 what better time to discuss these strange stories than so we're going to be recording 31 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:13.439 those for our patreons, something different for our supporters. What do you think 32 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.039 about that, Vans? I think that's amazing. Well, I'll I've I 33 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:22.759 think I might find the time to listen. Well, you know, we're 34 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:29.879 a little two dollars a month, unchecked and uncensored and after everyone better very 35 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.319 much so, unchecked and uncensored. And as we talked about we'll actually we 36 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:35.759 wouldn't talk about it. We hinted out it. I think last week, 37 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:39.680 Vans, we were going to be having this very special show. Are Ron 38 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:45.280 Anonymous story? Vans? Why don't you tell us a little bit about how 39 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:47.240 this came to be so we could just get right on into it. Henry 40 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.599 may absent tonight, folks. Sorry, don't have him with us, but 41 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:55.039 I hope he's doing well. Just needs a little break apparently. Yeah, 42 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:59.520 well quite possibly, and he may join us in a little while. We'll 43 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:05.400 see, Yeah, Ron Anonymous. Look, the show is entitled Ron Anonymous 44 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:15.120 for a reason. Ron is an individual that I've known personally, and we 45 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:20.279 go with Ron Anonymous for the fact that he has taken over the years an 46 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:27.920 understanding of how certain groups in the Sasquatch community can kind of get a little 47 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:32.480 bit belligerent with each other, and he really didn't want to be involved in 48 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:39.560 that aspect, so he didn't want really anybody to come at him for any 49 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:45.439 of his experience. But I find, you know myself, knowing Ron for 50 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.560 the amount of years that I've known him, I completely understand that. So 51 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:56.279 this is why the show was titled Ron Anonymous. But I'll give you a 52 00:04:56.360 --> 00:05:00.959 little bit of a background as to how it came about this individual, and 53 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:06.759 we'll go from there with what his personal encounter is. Now. Ron originally 54 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:15.839 was going to do the show with myself and possibly Sean and Baker and Henry. 55 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:25.199 However, I had recently purchased a new handheld device, and so far 56 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:30.920 I have found eight of my context did not transfer over to my new device. 57 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:38.360 I do not know Ron's personal address, and he has since retired from 58 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:43.439 the business in which I've known him from, so I really didn't have a 59 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:47.759 way to get in contact with him again. However, he did share with 60 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:56.439 me three separate times his personal story that I could share with the Sasquatch experience. 61 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:02.240 So I'll back up from the very beginning and at least reiterate what his 62 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.120 story is, and then, of course, if you two have questions, 63 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:10.720 and if Henry shows up and ask questions, or any of our listeners have 64 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:15.160 questions, please I will answer to the best of my ability without any embellishment. 65 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:23.639 The company in which I work for currently for the last twenty five years, 66 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:31.240 the cornerstone of the business is building high density, high impact wooden crates 67 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:42.759 for very sensitive machinery that goes from equipment for nuclear power plants to aviation equipment 68 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:49.680 to basic spraining equipment. These are sensitive pieces of material, and so our 69 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:55.879 company builds high impact crates so that they can take a lot of beating without 70 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:02.079 damaging the product. And I have dealt with company that Ron works for for 71 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.959 a number of years, at least twelve years, and I got to know 72 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:14.240 Ron, you know, just as a common acquaintance because he would receive the 73 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:18.680 product in which I'm bringing him from the company that manufactures these crates. And 74 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:24.279 you know, he's a very nice individual and I kind of like to talk 75 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:30.120 to him, and he had mentioned to me shortly after Sean asked me, 76 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:39.839 Sean Forker asked me to join the Sasquatch Experience. Shortly after that, I 77 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:44.560 visited Ron at his business and he was preparing to retire, but he was 78 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.519 going on vacation and he says to me, yeah, I'm not going to 79 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:54.519 be here next week. I'm going to taking a vacation to Stes Park in 80 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:58.600 Colorado with my wife. I'm like, oh, wow, that sounds great. 81 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:03.680 You're gonna go sasquatching. And he looked at me with this look of 82 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:09.160 astonishment. And I will never forget the look on his face that he was 83 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:13.920 given me. And he said to me, you believe in the Bigfoot thing. 84 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.720 I'm like, well, I mean, hey, I personally, there's 85 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.639 enough evidence out there that if it were a criminal trial, yeah, there 86 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:28.680 would be enough to convict on. There's lots of evidence out there. He's 87 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:33.159 like, you are the first person besides my wife that I've ever had a 88 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.919 conversation with that actually believes in the Bigfoot experience. I'm like, oh, 89 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.440 well, I take that flattering. I'm like why He's like, because I 90 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:46.279 had an experience. I'm like, okay, all bets are off at this 91 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:50.879 point. Now. In the warehouse where he worked, there's a couple of 92 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:56.879 benches, work benches, and benches that you would you do your paperwork on 93 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.360 or whatever packaging that you might do on. And I propped myself up on 94 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.080 the bench and and he asked me. He's like, do you have time? 95 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.919 I'm like, yeah, I'm looking at my watch. Of course, 96 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.519 you know at that time, the current employer that I have is since retired, 97 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:16.200 so I don't think he's going to come after me now for taking personal 98 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.480 time off the work clock to listen to a story, but just starting the 99 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:26.480 sas to watch experience with you guys. I'm all in. If somebody has 100 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.519 a story to did I just currently run across the golden idol of stories? 101 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:37.559 I want to know because sometimes we never know who's going to be the person 102 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:43.440 that actually finds the key to the answer to something. And I have no 103 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.360 idea what he's about to share with me, So I'm all in. So 104 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.879 I sit up on the bench and I'm like, yeah, I've got time. 105 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.240 Well, why what's going on? So Ron explains to me. He's 106 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:01.080 like, well, I can't believe that I've actually physically come in contact with 107 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:07.919 somebody that has this much interest in this subject. And he continued to explain 108 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:15.200 to me. The story that he shared was in nineteen sixty three. He's 109 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:22.320 an eight year old boy and he would go to his grandparents' farm in northern 110 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.279 central Wisconsin and they had a thousand acre farm up there, and he said, 111 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.320 you know, ever since he was barely able to walk till the age 112 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:37.679 of twelve, every summer he'd go to his grandparents farm and he'd spend the 113 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.480 summer there, and his parents would, you know, come and go whatever. 114 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:48.240 But you know, Graham and Grandpa were taking care of him and keeping 115 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:52.840 in mind. In nineteen sixty three, which you know, I'm not very 116 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:58.440 far behind that the culture was a lot different than it is today, and 117 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:07.360 his grandfather had bought him a twenty two long rifle rifle. Now, for 118 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:09.679 those of you I'm sure that are familiar with firearms, when I use the 119 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:15.919 word rifle twice, twenty two long rifle is actually the cartridge and you shoot 120 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.440 it out of a rifle. There are handguns that use a twenty two long 121 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:24.399 rifle cartridge out of a handgun. But for a kid, you got a 122 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:30.039 twenty too long rifle purchased by your grandfather. Now, my dad, in 123 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:35.360 that same timeframe taught me how to use his twelve gage shotgun. This was 124 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.000 a thing. It's not like it is today where, oh my god, 125 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:45.519 you know, the whole gun culture is being so bastardized. Going to high 126 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.879 school. When I went to high school, I could clearly remember off the 127 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:54.879 top of my head at least five, if not eight, pickup trucks in 128 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.039 the high school parking lot that had gun racks on the back window of the 129 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:03.840 pickup trucks with either a shotgun or a rifle, because hey, some of 130 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.360 the kids would go shooting after school, to go rabbit hunting, duck hunting, 131 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:13.279 just varmint hunting period in the forest lands around it. That was a 132 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:18.159 thing. It wasn't you know, oh my god, you showed up and 133 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:22.039 there's going to be a you know, a mass school shooting of some sort. 134 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.120 Yeah, the culture has changed and this isn't going to be a political 135 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.600 thing. That was the culture at the time. And as an eight year 136 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:37.000 old boy to be given a twenty too long rifle rifle, it wasn't sought 137 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.960 as something that was really unusual. That was just kind of how it was. 138 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:46.279 My dad bought me a twenty too long rifle. He brought my brothers 139 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:50.320 and myself pelt guns, so we would, you know, build snow forts 140 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.399 in the backyard and you know, have war with each other and if you 141 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.600 got shot in the eye, well that's your tough luck. You know, 142 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:03.840 that's it were kids, you know, that's what kind of made us who 143 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.320 we are today. You know, you just kind of take the brutal hits 144 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.279 as a kid, but you know that's why we're not the snowflakes of today. 145 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:18.799 So when Ron went to his grandparents farm, mind you, it's a 146 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.639 thousand acre farm and it was a common farm. So they were growing corn, 147 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.720 they had cattle, they had pigs and chickens. It was kind of 148 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:31.360 an all around type of farm. And yes, some of the product in 149 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.000 which they produced was sellable on the market, and that's how they sustained the 150 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:41.200 farm. And Ron stayed. You know, his grandfather also bought him a 151 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:45.720 pair of the mudding boots. And I knew exactly what he was talking about 152 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.360 because I had a pair too when I was a kid. You put these 153 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.320 boots on as a little kid and made you look like you had ginormous feet, 154 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:56.720 but it was what it was in the day. They're not. They're 155 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:03.799 nothing like boots that he can today with the gel insert cushion and they're all 156 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.840 comfortable and water proof. No, these were just mucking boots, you know, 157 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.600 and that's what they were. And he specifically said they made his feet 158 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.639 look huge, but you know, so so be it. And he'd have 159 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:22.000 his twenty too long rifle and he'd go varmit shooting on the property. And 160 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.559 on the back side of the property, he said, there's a creek, 161 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.039 but not a creek that you and I would probably call a creek. He 162 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.399 said, it really isn't a creek, but it's not quite a river what 163 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.320 you'd call something, you know, the definition between a creek and a river. 164 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:45.240 That's there's kind of a gray line there. But he said it's pretty 165 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:50.240 sizable waterway that went through the back side of the property and it would go 166 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.360 from treed areas in forest land, you know, along this creek way. 167 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.120 And he stated he went to the back of property to go shoot bunnies, 168 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.919 go shoot birds or whatever. Because he's an eight year old kid, you're 169 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.919 the superhero of the day. You've got a firearm, you can take down 170 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.840 anything. You're the badass. And that's how he's going out there with this 171 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:18.240 attitude, and he's getting closer to the creek along the back side of the 172 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:24.879 property. And what he describes to me three different times describing this story over 173 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.759 two year period of time. He's always described this exactly the same way. 174 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:35.840 He said, he came across a human barefoot print in the mud that was 175 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:43.519 ginormous to him, and he said it with five toes and you know, 176 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:50.799 had the heel, the entire structure of a human footprint, only ginormous. 177 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:58.360 And that's the word that he used, was ginormous. And he was stunned 178 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.399 as a kid. This is nineteen sixty three. He stunned as a kid. 179 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:08.000 What is this? He's trying to ascertain anything that he doesn't know about, 180 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:14.320 but does know about, what would have caused a footprint like this near 181 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:19.679 the banks of this creek. Now, he did describe the mud in which 182 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:23.360 this print was in. He's like, man, he said this so many 183 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.919 times to me. He's like, it was not a wet mud. It 184 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:33.320 was a soft, formidable mud that made such the clearest footprint in the mud. 185 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:40.360 And he's like, if I only knew now to know back then, 186 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.559 he wouldn't have altered it. But he took his boot. Now and when 187 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.320 he's telling me the story, he's like, you know, looking back on 188 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.200 it, that boot was probably from the toe of the boot to the heel 189 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:57.679 of boot about ten inches and he stepped inside the footprint to do a size 190 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:02.799 comparison, because he had no idea what he's looking at. He said, 191 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.880 his boot was dwarfed by the size of this footprint. And oh, there's 192 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:15.759 the train pooh, right on time. He said, his boot was dwarfed 193 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:21.960 by the size of this imprint in the mud. And again, you're an 194 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:26.079 eight year old kid. You know nothing about sasquatch. Nothing. This was 195 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:32.440 not in the lexicon of our culture at all in nineteen sixty three. It 196 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:37.359 just really was not. So he had no idea what he's looking at other 197 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:42.680 than the confusion of what kind of a giant could make a footprint this big? 198 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.599 And he stuck his boot, like I said, in the middle of 199 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:52.000 the footprint. And of course his biggest regret was that he didn't have plaster 200 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.319 of Paris. Of course, in nineteen sixty three, yeah, I was 201 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:02.680 a kid too. Now. I remember the sixties, Plaster of Paris was 202 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:07.680 a big thing. It was sold at every five and dime store that there 203 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.920 was. Plaster of Paris was sold everywhere because a lot of arts and crafts 204 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.400 were done with plaster in Paris. I remember as a kid going to my 205 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:22.440 mom's friend's house that had a house on Kangaroo Lake in Wisconsin, and we 206 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:25.920 as kids, you know, and I say we, you know, as 207 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.200 my brothers and myself, we go out on the beach on the sand and 208 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.480 grab the seashells and snail shells and we make these cool little imprints with our 209 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.079 hands, put the shells in there, and then pour plaster Paris in there 210 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.359 and make artwork to hang on a wall of our bedroom, and our mom, 211 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.400 you know, encourage that that was kind of a cool thing. Plaster 212 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:49.920 of Paris was a really big thing back then. This is Ron's biggest regret 213 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:56.880 because he didn't know what it is he's looking at. He's completely uneducated and 214 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:03.279 unfamiliar with what he's looking at. But what he said was after that footprint, 215 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:08.559 and he's completely confused. He stepped a number of steps away and saw 216 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:15.400 an opposite footprint away from the other footprint. And now as an adult, 217 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:22.240 he realizes the stride that this thing must have taken to make that second footprint 218 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:30.319 was incredible, and the second footprint was not as clear as the first footprint. 219 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:34.079 He said that mud sediment was further away from the bank, and that's 220 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:40.079 his biggest regret because he's like that would have probably been one hundred thousand dollars 221 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:45.240 footprint because there probably was dermal ridges imprinted in there, because it was that 222 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:51.799 type of mud consistency. It wasn't wet, but yet it was soft enough 223 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:56.839 to leave very great detail. And again he's a kid, he doesn't know. 224 00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:02.119 But he sees a second footprint of the opposite footprint, and he's really 225 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.960 kind of freaked out at this point. And he finds the third one and 226 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:11.839 it's only half a print stepping into the creek, and he said, he 227 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:18.440 got scared. He didn't know, are there you know, human footed elephants 228 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.519 in there? He he knew nothing of what it is he's looking at. 229 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:33.960 So he continues on with the story that excuse me, that he was upset 230 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.920 and kind of scared as to what it is he's looking at, and made 231 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.880 his way back to the farmhouse, and he told his grandfather what he had 232 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.960 seen, and of course his grandfather kind of, you know, shrugged it 233 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:48.519 off in a laugh of him, you know, okay, it's your grandkid, 234 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.519 you know, are you taking something like this seriously? Since this is 235 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:59.200 not part of our culture. This is nothing that we've talked about none whatsoever. 236 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:04.880 And he tried to convince his grandfather. But remember back in those days, 237 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.359 in the sixties, he didn't have your quad runners, he didn't have 238 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:15.599 your four wheel gaiters, your John Dear vehicles to do any kind of land 239 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.079 management on your farm property to take a ride out there. And he's a 240 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:25.519 grandfather. He's not going to go walk that back property. And Ron came 241 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:29.960 to that realization as an adult. He didn't understand that as a kid, 242 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.599 but he took it as an understanding as an adult. That's probably why his 243 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:40.000 grandfather just shrugged the entire thing off to say, okay, it's a great 244 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:45.279 imagination and you know, okay, let's have dinner and blew the conversation up. 245 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.920 But it changed his life. He had no idea what he was looking 246 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.359 at, but it changed his life, and he wanted answers. And I 247 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:57.680 think that's very prominent to all of us that wouldn't want answers after seeing something 248 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:03.599 like that, what created it? I mean, if he saw a dinosaur 249 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:07.599 print, you'd want to know what's in the area. Now, Ron did 250 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:15.960 state that as a kid, and we've probably have all had experiences as a 251 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:22.720 child where you've had one experience, maybe a couple of experiences that get imprinted 252 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.720 on your brain, and those pictures just cannot be faded from your brain. 253 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:32.319 You have great detail and memory, and that's the impact that Ron said he 254 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:37.039 had. He says he can look in his head and still see those imprints 255 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.200 as fresh as the day that he saw them as an eight year old kid. 256 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.079 And I can relate to that. I had an experience with my parents 257 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:52.359 at that age that I will never forget that was very detail orientated. So 258 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.960 yeah, at any point did he have a visual sighting of what made the 259 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:03.640 footprints. Not at that time. That'll probably come on the second half of 260 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:11.519 this conversation, but let's fast forward and if I forgot any details on that 261 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.519 particular encounter. After he went back to the farmhouse whereas grandparents were at and 262 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:19.240 he did explain to his grandfather what he saw, and his grandfather kind of 263 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:25.119 pretty much blew it off and did not go to investigate or look into it. 264 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.920 And Ron said his grandfather never gave him an explanation as to what it 265 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.440 may have been. You know, all, well, we've got bears out 266 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.440 here, big cat. No, he didn't give him any kind of an 267 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:42.200 explanation other than just leaving it a blank page. And let your imagination fill 268 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:48.599 in the gaps from that. So let's move in four years. Well now 269 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:53.319 he's eleven years old. Wells, before we move on, it's almost time 270 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.759 for the break, so we can go after the break will finish up, 271 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:02.559 yep, and then we can hit some questions. Yeah, absolutely, all 272 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.839 right, all right, Bob, everybody stay tuned. We'll be right back. 273 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:08.079 Got the big Foot bullet and coming your way. We'll take a breather, 274 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:11.880 see you in about five minutes. Everybody, hold on tight. As 275 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:26.559 soon as I find the damn file smoke, I'll sit. Yes, it's 276 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:33.599 another fine, high quality edition of The Bigfoot Bullhorn, exclusively on the Sasquatch 277 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:40.000 experience. I hope you're all having a wonderful Monday or whatever day it is 278 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.960 that you are listening to this. I'm going to kick things off here though, 279 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:48.519 on the big Foot Bullhorn with something that is not Bigfoot related, because 280 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:55.599 that's what I do. So the story goes. A woman flew from Malaysia 281 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:03.000 and arrived at an airport in Shannai, India's Central Board of Indirect Taxes and 282 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:11.920 Customs said on April thirtieth news release officials opened her check luggage and found her 283 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:18.960 attempting to smuggle twenty two snakes of various species and a chameleon into the country. 284 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.720 There is a collage of photos and videos that was shared on Facebook that 285 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:32.279 shows some of the packed, escaped reptiles and the lord. One video shows 286 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:37.559 several snakes slithering along the floor near a blue suitcase and a yellow and green 287 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:44.480 plastic container. An officer holds one of the snakes by the tail according to 288 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:48.039 a photo, and another photo shows someone holding a balled up snake in their 289 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:55.440 hand. One of the snakes escaped and slithered along a silver luggage cart. 290 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:02.119 Other photos show a container with a tangle of yellow and white striped reptiles, 291 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:07.839 possibly several snakes, and a container tape shut with a light brown snake inside. 292 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:15.400 Custom officials seized the snakes and the chameleon. 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Well, 317 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.079 thanks Vance Big Football, and folks go check out those great events and we 318 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:51.240 look forward to recaps from them from our listeners and a good friend and Drew 319 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:56.119 who could Who would want to miss an event? Amy speaking at right, 320 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.240 Hello, That's why we got to promote it. And Cork will be seeing 321 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.759 her at the Small Town Monsters Fest coming up at the beginning of June. 322 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:08.759 Myself and j Baker and Matt Arner, you know, our good friend Cryptic 323 00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:15.480 Wilderness. Matt Arner will be representing the se at Monster Fest. I don't 324 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.200 know if they've announced it yet, but I'm announcing it because I can. 325 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:26.880 I'm sure you own that's right, Thank you? I do Vans we were 326 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:32.599 talking about Ron Anonymous's footprint. Fine before we went to break Bob the cheek 327 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.960 of our listeners had a comment epic footprint find nineteen sixty three was pre suburban 328 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:44.799 sprawl and ATVs probably more common then today. It would be great evidence so 329 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.200 rare today via hoaxes and crowded woodlands to find a print like that. Absolutely, 330 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.400 I think Bob's spot on with his assessment. As I posted in their 331 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:59.880 two Vans nineteen sixty three three Patterson film Bigfoot, really not on the brain 332 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.440 of folks right at that time, right, And it's a different place in 333 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:08.359 the mental perspective to put yourself in. And I'm just trying to the listeners 334 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:14.079 of the watchers, so they just have an idea about that bake or any 335 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.200 comment before we get into the second part of this. Well, I think 336 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:21.759 you make a valid point about the hoaxers and the guys who like to play 337 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:26.039 with you know. The thing is is you look at it that there's so 338 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:32.240 many sightings between before the Patterson gimmlin and before even the eighties that there weren't 339 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:36.359 you know, people just making stuff up. Yeah, there were some that 340 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.200 it wasn't like it is today or you have fourteen videos coming up an hour, 341 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.319 you know. So I think that that that would have been a really 342 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:51.200 important fine the fact that the fact that he specifically found that in the time 343 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.640 and has an idea, and it sounds like I haven't heard the rest of 344 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.359 the story, but four years later something else happened. So I mean that 345 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:02.200 it would be it's got to be that, you know, we lived when 346 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:07.559 we didn't live so digital and so crowded. We may have had more sightings, 347 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.119 you know, we would have had more evidence. But the problem was 348 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.920 is that back then they didn't see it as evidence. They just saw a 349 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.480 strange track and they're like, oh, okay, I'm gonna move on. 350 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:24.240 Yeah. Well, I'm happy to hear you say that, Bake, because 351 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:31.440 that's what ties into the four years later thing, is the mere fact that 352 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:37.880 at that time period, and I can attest to this, the school library 353 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:45.680 and the public library was really your only source of information. And like I 354 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:52.599 said, it's an eight year old kid. This definitely impacted him mentally to 355 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.279 the fact of wanting to know what it is he's looking at. He had 356 00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:02.920 no clue. It's definitively a human footprint, but extremely large. So therefore, 357 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.839 it's abnormal. And when I was a kid, yeah, the public 358 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:16.119 library was a huge resource because this is pre internet, pre smartphone, pre 359 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:22.319 any kind of information. And he has stated to me, which I experienced 360 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:29.400 the same thing too. The only thing that he could find was the Tom 361 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:37.200 Slick expedition of the jetty and those footprints, which did not even resemble close 362 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:42.079 to what he saw, but he found a fascination in it when he went 363 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:46.720 through the Tom slickbook. But at that time, our public libraries, at 364 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:52.720 least where I grew up, did the same thing. They would continually have 365 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:58.920 these events at the public library, not school, but public library of local 366 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:05.079 TV news anchors that would come and do a presentation for the kids. You 367 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:09.199 would have kids story time, not drag queen story time, but you know, 368 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:15.000 story time by authors of the books that were written, and they would 369 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:21.280 share what the adults and the kids. And there was also movie night. 370 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:28.000 Four years later, he's eleven years old. Well that makes it nineteen sixty 371 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:32.280 seven, late nineteen sixty seven, and he sees the Patterson Gimblin film for 372 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:39.639 the first time, and he said he was shocked. He knew exactly And 373 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:45.320 this is him saying it to me. He knew exactly what that creature was, 374 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:51.360 but what he couldn't figure out was how did that creature travel from California 375 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:58.079 to central Wisconsin. That's what stumped him. He's eleven years old. He's 376 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:07.360 not putting biology into any of the equation here of a multiple population. He's 377 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:13.559 thinking, this is one creature that traveled from California all the way to north 378 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:20.079 central Wisconsin somehow. But he said when he saw that film, that changed 379 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.599 everything because when he looked at it, just like I did when I was 380 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.039 a kid, I knew what I was looking at was a real creature. 381 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.159 I can't say I have proof. I'm just giving you. And of course 382 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:39.039 we're looking at the original film that's shaky and jumpy and not stabilized. But 383 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.239 it was that impact that that film presented to him and to myself at the 384 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:52.920 same time when I first saw it on Creature Features in Chicago. Actually, 385 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.760 I don't know if it was Creature Feature. I believe it was Sven Gooli 386 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.280 show. Yeah, go ahead, just as you brought it up. A 387 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:06.400 question I have for you man, looking at these this recent are the recently 388 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:13.519 stabilized four K quality footage of the Patterson Ghiblin film. Seeing it today in 389 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.519 that format, does it change your perspective of the first time you've seen it, 390 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.159 You've seen it back way back when, like, does that added clarity 391 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:29.360 and stabilization change the feeling of it for you? I can't say that it's 392 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:36.400 changed the feeling because first impressions are hard to change. Sure, they really 393 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.000 are hard to change. If you eat something and you just don't like it, 394 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:43.159 you're never gonna eat it again. Even if you see it, you 395 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:47.119 just you still have the same opinion. So my opinion, seeing the original 396 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:53.440 unstabilized footage, I was convinced that this is a real creature. It helps 397 00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:59.159 to see its stabilized because now we get a little bit more definitive definition. 398 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:06.239 But I can't say that it's changed my opinion, nor has it changed Ron's 399 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.400 opinion, because he's seen the stabilized, you know, version of it. 400 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:14.599 Also, that was my next question for you. Did you ever show Ron 401 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.000 the stabilized version? And now he came across it himself, you know, 402 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:24.440 Being that all these events happened, he's become more and more involved in doing 403 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:32.000 the research. So after he saw the PG film, he did come across 404 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:37.599 years later, I do not remember the name of the book, and I 405 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.440 don't know that he remembered the name of the book, but it was look 406 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:46.119 we look at Lauren Coleman. He was the original BFR. He wrote book 407 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:53.199 on you know, locations times of those locations of witness sightings. Lauren Coleman 408 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.400 was on top of it, but long before Matt Moneymaker was, and he 409 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:04.199 had the book and in the book he's looking at a map of these sightings 410 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:10.280 in the book, and where Ron had his footprint encounter was less than fifty 411 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:16.880 miles away from more a documented account in Lauren Coleman's book was and that was 412 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:24.679 completely fascinating to him. So now we're putting pieces together that it's very possible. 413 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.679 And of course you know in later years, Ron's going back over time 414 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:34.519 to look at how the forest land was developed. It was an expansive forest 415 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:39.760 land along these creeks between these farm fields that go through northern Wisconsin up to 416 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:47.760 the lack of Flambeaux forest reservations into the National Forest. There's billions of acres 417 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.719 of forest land that this thing could have moved through to come right up to 418 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.960 this property where he was at where he saw these footprints at but to have 419 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:06.119 something that Lauren Coleman documented in his book pretty much solidified what it was that 420 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.159 he saw and gives him a little bit more peace, if you want to 421 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:19.280 use that as a verb to say, Hey, I'm thinking this is something 422 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.199 that actually happened, because other people had this witness encounter and they testified that 423 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.360 to Lauren Coleman, and he documented it in his book. And that's pretty 424 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:37.400 fascinating within itself. But we can go years later when Royan originally told me, 425 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.679 like I stated to you at the beginning of this entire story, Yeah, 426 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.679 I'm going on vacation and I'm going to ST's Park out in Colorado with 427 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:51.719 his wife because he likes to frequent that area. So he proceeds to tell 428 00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.960 me on that trip, when he came back from that trip, that he 429 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.440 was at a gas station feeling up his jeep and they were staying in a 430 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:05.920 hotel. They weren't camping, they were staying in a hotel, but he 431 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.559 would take the jeep and they would you go through sts and look at the 432 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:14.519 beautiful mountains. He says, We're at a gas station and I'm putting gas 433 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.960 in my truck and across the way a thousand yards away. There's small mountain 434 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.880 ridges right there in sts National Park, but it's not. And I know 435 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.559 exactly what he's talking about because I've been there too, just like you, 436 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.199 Sean, Not every mountain ridge is going to have a hiking trail on it. 437 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:42.079 These are just remote, unowned land. It's just part of the landscape. 438 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.280 Nobody owns it. There's no national park that owns it. There's no 439 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:51.679 hiking trails. And he says he's filling up his fuel tank on his jeep 440 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:59.599 and he just so happens to notice this large black bipedal thing. He didn't 441 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.119 say was a big foot. He just said it was a large black bipedople 442 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:09.519 thing walking across this low Ridge mountain line about a thousand yards away from him. 443 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:15.800 Now, he did state, ever, since his encounter is an eight 444 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:21.239 year old kid, he's going to bring whatever he has to bring with him 445 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:25.360 to get this if he ever sees it again. He wants proof. And 446 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:34.519 he said he had bought a fifteen hundred dollars Bushnell binoculars and you could see 447 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.840 birch shit in a crater of a moon with these binoculars. And I get 448 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.159 exactly what he's saying because I've looked through those things, you know, it 449 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:47.519 was in his jeep. He could not he didn't even think about getting those 450 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.559 binoculars to take a look at what he's watching walking across a ridge line at 451 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.840 Estes. But he did point it out to his wife who was there. 452 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.920 Do you see that she was confused. Now, she was a complete skeptic 453 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.039 to this day, she's a skeptic about his bigfoot stuff. But she loves 454 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.480 the man. She's not doubting him. But she couldn't figure out what this 455 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:16.280 thing was. And again, I'm only sharing the story. Is how Ron 456 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:21.760 shared it with me, is that he sees this thing. He's looking at 457 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:27.880 the side of the trees on the mountain ridge and this thing was very sizeable 458 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:32.079 to the trees that he's watching walk across the top of this and he's like, 459 00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:37.599 there's no hiking trails up there. This is just a remote area. 460 00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:43.440 That's yeah, it's beautiful to look at, but it's not designated for any 461 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.639 kind of hikers. And yet here he is putting fuel in his jeep and 462 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.039 he sees this thing, a black and he said, very much look like 463 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.400 a conical head. How many times have we seen a witness report where it 464 00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.239 mentions a conical head. Now, a thousand yards is not really that close, 465 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.719 but you know what, you can still at a thousand yards, and 466 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.280 I know what a thousand yards looks like. You can still kind of make 467 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:12.000 out quite a bit of detail at a thousand yards. It sounds like a 468 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.960 lot, but it's really not. It's you're talking ten football fields away from 469 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:22.480 you. You'll still be able to identify something. And he did stay to 470 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:29.000 me several times over and over. This thing looked huge. Okay, well, 471 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.840 you can kind of identify how far you are from the mountain ridge the 472 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:37.920 size of the trees, and ask and he's like, if he were to 473 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.159 guess, because that's the best that he can do, because he did not 474 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.199 go up there to measure, But if he were to guess, he would 475 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:51.719 say at least eight to ten feet now vanced. He observed that from the 476 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.840 distance with the naked eye, not with the bush nails, right, correct. 477 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.800 Okay, I just wanted to clarify because you did say he had, 478 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.440 yes, But that's kind of my point of why didn't you get a picture 479 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.719 of it? Because you don't think to go get your phone, You don't 480 00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.360 think to go get the binoculars. You don't want to take your eye off 481 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:14.320 of what it is that you're witnessing at that moment. And he attested to 482 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:21.159 all the Sasquatch shows that he's been listening to ever since all these things have 483 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:25.960 happened to him. He gets involved into listening, but he's not directly involved 484 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.159 in any groups because he just does not want to get scrutinized and he does 485 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.800 not want to have the spotlight put on him. He's just interested in getting 486 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.239 information. And he said to me how many times he's heard witness report, 487 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.400 Well, why didn't you get a picture of it? Because you don't think 488 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.800 of it at the time. You're witnessing something, You're gonna witness it with 489 00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.079 your eyes, and you don't want to take your eyes off of it. 490 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:59.159 What led him? What led him to looking over in the direction? Did 491 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.960 he feel like some he was watching him or was it just total happens dance. 492 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.960 He just happened to look over, and you know, he didn't make 493 00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:12.480 mention that anything was watching him. He said he was putting fuel in the 494 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:16.480 gas tank of his jeep and he happened to notice. And I believe that 495 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:22.559 was his verbatim statement was he happened to notice to look up and you know, 496 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.199 he's probably facing that mountain ridge where he's feeling is jeep up at and 497 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:31.039 happened to notice this, saying, walking across the ridge line on top of 498 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:37.320 the mountain, did he happen to get an estimate on the height or weight 499 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:43.039 or whatever was looking at him the object with the conical head, Well, 500 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.440 he felt that it was between eight to ten feet. Now that's a two 501 00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:52.320 foot difference, but that was his gut reaction was And he did state his 502 00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:58.840 wife said that's abnormally large for a person, but she left it as it's 503 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:05.840 possibly a hike. But he did state it was entirely black from head to 504 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.440 toe, face, legs, arms, everything was black. It was all 505 00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:14.960 unison colored. And he's like, I don't know that somebody would have a 506 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:20.320 backpack on or a hoodie or in jeans that are all the same color right 507 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.679 down to the hands, that you'd be wearing black gloves, black coat, 508 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:30.320 black hoodie, black backpack, black jeans, black shoes. He said, 509 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:37.800 the thing was entirely unison in color. Any questions, big, No, 510 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.519 I mean, the story's pretty solid. I mean, it's it seems like 511 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:46.039 he has something that's specifically that some reason he's either drawn to the creature or 512 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:52.119 the creatures drawn to him. But he seems to have a reasonable It's it's 513 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.880 hard to get a secondhand because it's kind of like when Sean reads a book 514 00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.599 and then explains it to me. It's like, it's a good story, 515 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.440 but there's little details that I have questions on that you just don't know, 516 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.199 you know, because I can't you know, I can't you know, ask 517 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.719 him, you know. But like in general, like these stories kind of 518 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:14.639 match up with a lot of the stories get And I also want to shout 519 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.280 out to Coleman because Coleman takes a lot of flak now and then, but 520 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.599 honestly, when you look at the research he's done, the books he's written, 521 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.639 and the and the things he's done for the community, he is an 522 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.800 authority on that. So if you know, if he was learning some of 523 00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.280 the stuff he did from watching what Coleman did, then at least he was 524 00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:38.119 getting a big part of the good part of the information correctly, right. 525 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:49.639 And I will say that you know, prior to the SDS encounter, he 526 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.880 was doing a lot of research on his own, just personal because it's personal 527 00:47:53.960 --> 00:48:00.119 to him, nobody else, and I am the first person that he's ever 528 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:05.280 met face to face that has an interest in this subject. So he immediately 529 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:12.239 embraced my enthusiasm with and I embraced his enthusiasm. And you know, he's 530 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.280 trying to come up with names as fast as he can. And that guy 531 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.039 that does the that that bigfoot show on TV, and I'm like, oh, 532 00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.920 okay, there's a lot of them. Yeah, that Finding Bigfoot show 533 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.239 and and and that stuff that they showed, and yeah, I get it, 534 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.679 but I think a lot of it's bullshit because that's not what I experienced. 535 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:39.760 It's great to have that outside experiencer give me at least feedback to what 536 00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:45.119 might be bs and what's not bus. I'm not seeing everything on that show 537 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:50.519 where it's BS, but I understand the enthusiasm of oh we heard this. 538 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.719 Would not that's definitely a bigfoot. No, maybe it's not. It might 539 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.360 be somebody out there just you know, ff and with your brain and hitting 540 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.320 the baseball bat against a tree looking for a big foot. Also, and 541 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.039 you don't know that they're in the area looking for a big foot. It's 542 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:14.159 possible. So he's very skeptical about the evidence that he sees on these television 543 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:19.320 shows, and I get it. But he had great respect for Lauren Coleman 544 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:23.639 because he read all the Lauren Coleman books, whether it's Bigfoot related or anything 545 00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:30.480 cryptozologically related. Because he doesn't know where this footprints or the three footprints that 546 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:36.400 he saw came from. Maybe it's something else he didn't know at the time. 547 00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:42.480 So he's looking into cryptozoology as a subject altogether for every type of entity 548 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.800 that might not be discovered yet. But he leaves that possibility to open. 549 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.480 So he gives you, Lauren Coleman a lot of credit in which I do 550 00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.920 too. I mean, the first book I bought of Lauren Coleman was Cryptozoology 551 00:49:54.079 --> 00:50:00.559 A through z. It gives you a chronological description of everything has been witnessed 552 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:07.760 or told about, whether it's folklore or just stories. Okay, he wrote 553 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.639 about it, puts it in the book, and now you can use it 554 00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:14.320 as a dictionary. Well what comes close to this animal? Well let's go, 555 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.280 do you know the letter j Where do we come up with under the 556 00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:22.400 letter ja? Oh? Lauren Coleman went ahead and did that, So I 557 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.039 do give a lot of kudos to Lauren for putting into that. And that's 558 00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:32.960 why I said earlier in that book that Ron is referring to, it was 559 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:39.719 Lauren Coleman that actually started the report sightings of Bigfoot before the bfrro ever came 560 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:45.519 around. And yeah, the bfrro okay, they got a database to work 561 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.639 with now on the Internet, where Lauren Coleman didn't have that at the time. 562 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.599 All they could do it was documented into a book, publish it and 563 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:58.079 hope people would buy it and that would be their data source. But now 564 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.840 the BFR can add sightings on a daily basis if necessary, on an Internet 565 00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.480 source. Oh, which, okay, that's great. I'm sure there's a 566 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.239 lot of sources on there that are very credible. There are probably a lot 567 00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:15.800 on there that are just a bunch of you know, horse pockey, but 568 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:22.639 that doesn't matter, you know. So again, this isn't about Lauren Coleman. 569 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:28.440 This is about the fact that it's solidified with what he saw fifty mile 570 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.119 or less than fifty miles away from where he sees these footprints. Fifty miles 571 00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.880 is not that far. It's really not that especially in a wilderness situation. 572 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:43.320 It's not that far away. And of course the closest home next to the 573 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:47.599 farm where he was staying in his grandparents place over the summer was a mile 574 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:52.199 and a half down the road. You're not going to just you know, 575 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.000 run next door to your neighbors and say, hey, did you know because 576 00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:01.800 this is an expanse part of northern Central withconsin and I've been up there many 577 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.119 times. Yeah, You've got to drive a long way down the country road 578 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:13.000 to get to the next house. So it's such a remote area. And 579 00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.239 at that time, you know, he did document a lot as he grew 580 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:21.559 up through the years into his twenties, thirties, and forties, because now 581 00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:25.079 this is part of who it's become. After he's seen this stuff and is 582 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:30.480 taking interest in it and going to the library and researching, and then the 583 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:36.079 Internet comes about and he's getting more information and he's documenting. He's looking at 584 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.840 that region where he was out there as an eight year old kid with a 585 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:45.800 twenty two long rifle going. Yeah, it was very possible anything undiscovered could 586 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:51.239 have traveled and traversed through those lands for hundreds of miles without being detected. 587 00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.239 Yeah, and he's not wrong. I mean, we talked about this this 588 00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:02.719 morning, Bacon. I'man were out about the private lands and how much underdeveloped 589 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.280 land there really is out there, and how easy it is for something to 590 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:13.440 take up residence and reside in these places that are well off the grid, 591 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.840 well off in nowhere that you know, maybe for sale, but people don't 592 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.599 go out there, you know, but for you know, ships and giggles, 593 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:25.960 and you know, we talk about the frequency of these big foot sightings 594 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.360 and often compared to a needle in a haystack, with the needle that's always 595 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:37.440 moving exactly right right, and you know, a chance, you know, 596 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.559 you'll probably have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than you do of 597 00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:45.679 seeing a big foot, right, I mean that's just a you know, 598 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:51.679 probably a real statistic, but I mean it's happening more often than not now 599 00:53:51.920 --> 00:54:00.480 urban sprawl and you know, things that you know are really affecting the now 600 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:05.320 that we didn't have to worry about in the fifties and sixties, you know, 601 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:09.760 really creating a different environment for these beings to live in. Right, 602 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:15.760 So well, you know, you know, going back to when he's a 603 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:20.239 kid eight years old, he has no perspective on what he's what he's encountering. 604 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:25.840 Then he has that siting. How many years later with the easily we're 605 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:34.519 talking fifty some years later, right, Yeah, And in the interim, 606 00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.039 he's had several years to kind of make up his own thoughts and do some 607 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:43.840 research, but nothing really concrete to experience or relate. And now all of 608 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.400 a sudden, he has that chance encounter of something that he experienced as you 609 00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:50.920 know, just think about that mental image. If you can paint that picture 610 00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:54.119 being a kid, you know, I can see it like a movie flashback, 611 00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:58.360 you know. Man, he's sitting in his jeep fueling up and he 612 00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.760 looks over in season. Then in his mind, if he just had those 613 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:04.400 that thought in his head of him seeing those as a kid, like, 614 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:09.360 could you imagine that cascade of emotion? And I'm glad you brought that up, 615 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:16.119 because he did. He did give me that testimony in his response that 616 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.119 what were the chances that he and he did stay to me. I want 617 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:28.239 to make this perfectly clear. He did stay to me that he didn't want 618 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:34.119 his experience as a kid to influence what he saw in ST's Park. He's 619 00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:38.360 trying to separate those two desperately so that he's not oh well, that's definitely 620 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:43.559 a big foot because I saw footprints as a kid, he said, he 621 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:51.800 deliberately separated those two in his head because and the party words that Ron said 622 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:57.639 to me was he wants an answer before he dies. He's like, please, 623 00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:02.360 whatever happens before my death, I want an answer. I'm like, 624 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:07.679 well, Ron, I can attest to a lot of us in this community 625 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:15.320 we're requesting the same thing. But I understand he just wants some validity personally 626 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:19.760 because he's not sharing this with the world. He's sharing this with himself. 627 00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:24.800 And I get that he wants to know what he saw as a kid and 628 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.880 what he saw and as an adult. Can he get some validity before he 629 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.599 dies as is this real or not? Well? Pass along our thanks if 630 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:40.840 when you see Ron again for sharing the story with us, and again, 631 00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.559 Vans were wrapping up to the top of the hour here, so I don't 632 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:45.960 want to get too far down the rabbit hole, Baker, any final questions 633 00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:51.239 or comment you have for Vans regarding ron anonymous story, not really. I 634 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:53.239 just hope that we get a hold of him physically, that maybe we can 635 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:58.119 either get him to ask additional questions or that we can get a point where 636 00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.519 he can add to the story so that we right you know, I just 637 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:05.440 don't really say that we use the term story as in fictional like that. 638 00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.920 I meant. I meant the I see the story as news, not as 639 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:15.039 fiction. Okay, I'm clarifying for the listeners that this isn't a made up, 640 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.159 fabricated thing. Ron Anonymous is a real person who just prefers for his 641 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.559 own reason to be anonymous, and we were very fortunate that he was willing 642 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.519 to share this with Vans. So again, Vans pass along our thank you 643 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.840 well to Ron for this and perhaps if we have any questions, folks, 644 00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:37.239 if you want to send any questions into us through our website or sasquatch Experience 645 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:42.960 dot com, same as with reporting you're fighting an encounter, info at sasquatch 646 00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.840 Experience dot com or hit us up on our social media Sasquatch Experience on Facebook, 647 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:51.480 Instagram, squatch esp on Twitter, any of those places. If you 648 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.599 have a question for Ron that we might be able to get to him and 649 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:58.039 perhaps Vans, we can compile them and you can kind of do a question 650 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.800 with them and get the answers back to us as we do a follow up 651 00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:07.360 in a lot Anonymous something to think, I'd be happy to no I'd be 652 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:13.760 happy to do that, you know, Like I said, you know towards 653 00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:19.320 the top of the show, he understands how this community can be. There's 654 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:23.360 so many different groups in this community. He understood that a lot of groups 655 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:29.480 are closely knit and very supportive of each other, and he knows there's other 656 00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.920 groups that are just vicious and want to tear each other apart. He just 657 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:40.480 did not want to subject himself to being torn apart for something that he experienced 658 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:46.480 as a kid. And I completely understand that. So he kind of stepped 659 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:52.719 back, and this is his personal experience. We've all had a personal experience, 660 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:58.840 not cryptozologically related, that we're not going to share with the world because 661 00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.639 you might get torn up hard. Bill. No, you didn't have Yeah, 662 00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:06.280 I kind of did. I had that nightmare as a child. No, 663 00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.440 you didn't. Vance We've talked about that many times in the show, 664 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:14.320 right that it's a very personal experience with your own sort of emotions. And 665 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:16.760 you know, again I used the word trauma, but your own traumas and 666 00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:22.199 trep editions built into sharing it. We're just glad he did. Folks, 667 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.880 you've been listening to Sasquatch experience. I'm Sean the fork shop Forker. You 668 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:30.320 can find me everywhere on social media with my name at Sean Forker, Vance 669 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:35.280 working. Folks find you. Oh, they can find me on Instagram. 670 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:40.639 It's something to just look up Vance on Instagram. You'll find me. I'm 671 00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:46.760 on Facebook two again, so yeah, Vance Nez been on Facebook and if 672 00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:52.159 I put something up there it'll be interesting and you can find he was on 673 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:57.440 grinder until he found us. I was sure yeah, and tender uh huh 674 00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:02.199 yeah no, a long long grinder van but they're not the sandwich as you've 675 01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:08.519 been looking for. And James w fuckyd you. Um right now, I'm 676 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:13.119 pretty much wherever Sean is and some of these things. But I'm also working 677 01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.920 on little projects. Um. We talk about a lot about land and things 678 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.760 like that. So I've been working on It's called Lot five six. Um 679 01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:23.000 check it out, you know, see what your opinion is. And did 680 01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:29.000 you change it to Stories of the Blue Man? No, George of the 681 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.360 Blue Man? You're the Blue Man. Today's ZIS experience was a little sizzle 682 01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.320 and it was a good time, folks. State again. Check out our 683 01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.760 Patreon for as little as two dollars a month. Patreon dot com Forward slack 684 01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:44.639 task watch experience. Starting this week or next week, you'll be able to 685 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:50.880 hear Sean and Baker take on Reddit. And next week, of course we're 686 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:53.039 we're off, but the following week we'll be back. I'll be doing an 687 01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:59.360 interview with Matt Knapp over at Bigfoot Crossroads. I'm gonna do a little collaborating 688 01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.960 with my good friend, old friend, Matt Knapp, so that'll be interesting. 689 01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.679 Check out that show too, folks, Bigfoot Crossroads. You can get 690 01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:13.280 it anywhere. You can find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Play 691 01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:15.719 check it out. Matt's good dude, and the podcast is top notch. 692 01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:22.119 Uh you know again, some of our compatriots, Matt Arner Gwen Purcell have 693 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:28.360 are making their way through the Bigfoot Society podcast. Check out our good friend 694 01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:30.920 Jeremiah over on that show. Of course, as always, check out our 695 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:37.159 good friend Shanon LaGrow over at end of the Fray Radio. Um, we'll 696 01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:40.719 be meeting meeting up again here soon at the beginning of June at monster Fest. 697 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.559 Check that out Smalltown Monsters dot Com forward slash monster Fest. I think 698 01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:49.199 that's the RL And if I got it wrong, just google the damn thing. 699 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:53.400 I don't know, folks, Henry May was here, he'd say, 700 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.719 you all be good or bed it, keep your toes in the mud. 701 01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:05.039 That's it. Yeah that too, of course. Let's see yeah a couple 702 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:15.000 of weeks smokes. Good night, everybody. You've been listening to Sasquatch Experience. 703 01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:20.159 Please rate and review where this podcast is consumed. To share your experience, 704 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:23.679 visit us on Facebook or email us Squatch Experience at gmail dot com. 705 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:45.320 Keep on squatching, h