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Because we know that some of the
programs are legit, like the mk Ultra

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programs. There's proof of the mk
ultra programs actually being a thing, Stargate

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programs remote viewing, but the CIA
a lot of those documents have been declassified,

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you know, so we know that
they were interested in in doing these

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kinds of things in there, and
there's proof for that. But my original

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thought whenever I was trying to decipher
all this in my mind was that it

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had something to do with the Montauk
Project, right, and you know,

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like how they would you know,
strap people down into a chair, they

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would apparently open up a portal in
front of them, and then you know

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which, now that I'm thinking about
it, it seems more like a simulation,

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like what you're talking about. It's
a holographic simulation that they're opening up

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in front of them. But my
original thought was that, well, if

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they can mind fracture people with the
MK Ultra, disassociate them to such a

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degree, and then if they actually
could open up a real portal, then

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they would be able to take a
part of that fractualized consciousness and throw it

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through the portal and then have that
part of the consciousness, go out and

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live a twenty and back program,
forty and back, sixty and back and

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then come back, and it would
be like five minutes in this reality,

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but it was like forty sixty years
out there in a completely different alternate reality

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or parallel reality. I mean,
everyone's had dreams. Everyone understands the time

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work between dreams and reality, right, Like you can have a dream that

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seems like it goes on for days
or weeks. Right. There's even been

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people who have done things like smoke
DMT and have an experience like that where

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they're gone or salvia or something like
that. Like a very famous comedian talks

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about one where he was gone and
had like a whole other life that he

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just lived for three to six months. Meanwhile, he was just sitting in

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the same chair for ten minutes,
right, and he can't really distinguish He

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knows that he wasn't really living this
other life, but he can't really distinguish

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the memories from reality. That's no
different, Right, Like DMT and these

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different suggestion type drugs like LSD,
like salvia, like magic mushrooms, all

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of those things put you in a
hypnotic trancelike suggestible state. Gives someone the

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right concoction put something on a screen
in front of them, especially if you

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can holographically project images into the brain, which we can do, then you

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can convince people that they are actually
living through these experiences, and you can

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actually design it like a movie that
they interact with, almost like a video

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game that they go out and play. I sometimes use movies to show people

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how this works, like Enders game, Right, if you remember an Enders

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game, I mean that was set
in a world where they actually were out

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in space and having fights with aliens, but the majority of what he went

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through was actually a simulation he thought
was real. And then the movie actually

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wraps up by them putting him through
a simulation he thinks is just a simulation

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but ends up being real. Right, So that's kind of showing you both

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ends of that concept. But when
I say proof isn't the result, you

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know, every whistleblower has said that
disclosure is coming, even they have kind

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of told you that they were going
to tell you the truth eventually. Right,

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the truth is out there. And
when I wrote my blog, i

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wrote it I called it the path
of discoveries, which is them slowly releasing

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technology to the public. That they
just discovered, right, new scientific evidence

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that they just discovered, new facts
about us as humans in the past that

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they just discovered, and we have
that. We have a ton of that.

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And what we don't have is any
technology that matches the Secret Space Program.

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What we do have is a bunch
of technology that matches the Secret Space

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Program, as I presented, and
like it was called that, it was

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called the Secret Space Program, but
then it didn't have anything to do with

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outer space. They actually have a
different word for the concept of what outer

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space is because they actually understand what
it is. Space or outer space is

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something the public has been programmed to
believe in. It's not even real in

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the way that they teach it to
us. So of course it's just a

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play on language, which is a
typical magician trick of illusion, right,

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just to like play with the language
secret Space Program. You hear that,

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you even have that in your memory
because you've heard it repeated in your ears

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a bunch of times, and then
you are in the public, and of

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course that becomes outer space. And
again to relate it to a movie,

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if you've ever seen the movie Get
Out, they show you what the Secret

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Space Program is. So yeah,
and they show it to you in context

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of how they can use it to
program you and basically push you back while

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something else takes control and drives you
like a car. Right. So,

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once again, we have all of
these real things in the world that,

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if you put them together, lead
to one example of a secret space program.

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What we do not have is anything
that even resembles the crazy amount of

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technology involved in the Secret Space Program
as it's provided writing very very interesting article

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how they're using this holographic simulation tech. And I think that's a high possibility

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that that's why a lot of these
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all that are claiming that they,
you know, went in the schwinning and

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back program and they went to Mars
to the moon to fight aliens. I

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believe it's a high possibility that it
was an actual holographic simulation. Yeah,

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I know, it easily could be
a holographic simulation. We're not far off

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from that. A lot of people
think the metaverse and neurolink and all that

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is a long ways away. It's
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But I want to add one more
thing. Rider if you want to

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know where a lot of those Mars
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and why some of them are so
crazy is that if you go back to

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Project Camelot. Are you familiar with
Project Camelot, Yes, If you go

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back to Project Camelot and Project Avalon
and all that sort of stuff and the

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days of Carry Castidy, there was
a guy on their name Henry Deacon,

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and his real name was Arthur Newman, and he disappeared shortly after he started

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talking. He was a physicist,
and he talked about some incredible stuff,

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but he started talking about stuff he
shouldn't have been talking about. And one

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of the things is that he was
talking about was Mars. And he also

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talked a lot about the jab and
other things that were coming. If people

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pay close attention to what he said, he said a lot of very interesting

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things years before they happened. So
I'll pay attention to what he said.

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But when you listen to what he
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about what was up on Mars.
Now, Mars isn't as fancy as what

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you see in the movies. You
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Jupiter ascending and all that sort of
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some primitive stuff they've done up there. There's some marry Is like the mary

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Ones Trench, some very deep areas, load types of gravity and not much

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of an atmosphere and all that sort
of stuff. But he talked about stuff

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he shouldn't have been talking about.
So what he received a warning essentially from

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what I was told and to offset
what he said, which was premature because

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he talked about Mars way earlier than
he should have talked about it. You

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saw a lot of guys is then
coming out years later talking about like jump

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rooms where they are up there with
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and all kinds of different stories that
were coming out in Mars. One disinformation

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campaign after the other would roll out
years later. I'm not naming any names,

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but you get the picture. Now. What does the theater Tory race,

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in any of the any of the
other Reptunian races said about the Super

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Space Program? What did they say
about that many humans have either deluded themselves,

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have mental illness, mental health issues, missed childhoods that never grew up

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properly, daddy issues, lack of
attention that they're receiving in life, lack

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of friendships in life, lack of
brotherhood, they have loneliness, or they've

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just created falsehood stories in order to
give themselves forms of self importance. Most

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are ego driven, egomaniacs. They're
not powerful, they're powerless rats. They're

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just ego maniacs. So when they
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not real. They're just pretending that
they know something about it. Look at

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James Rink, a coumentary investigation by
a fellow Canadian year wonderful guy, Somalian

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black guy living in Canada in Toronto, City of Toronto, Province of Ontario.

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His name is Okay Okay. I
as a YouTube channel with like a

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million subscribers or something. OKI's Weird
Stories. He did a documentary infiltrating the

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SSP cult in the United States in
Las Vegas called How I Infiltrated a Bizarre

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Conspiracy Theory, And then there's a
part two called How I Became a Space

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Jesus. That's a great example for
people to see how SSP is a fraudulent

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So a lot of these people are
ego driven, so that they speak this

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SSP language, this SSP soldier history. They're making it up there it's bullshit

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stories and presentations and YouTube videos.
Now most importantly to the point, there

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is no human SSP name program SSP
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human for humans. There are pro
there are military joint operations run by extraterrestrial

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physical beings who had advanced ships,
advanced ships that we don't even have.

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We have gifted technology to have our
own ships. Yes, but there is

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no such thing as SSP. And
the clown, the green blue Chicken guy

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they invented at knows that. Hence
by has been busted, so the rest

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of the mafia also needs to be
busted. They have no power, they

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have no integrity, they have no
mental warfare. They're worthless. There are

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cowards. There is a secret space
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rudimentary, and it's it's like kind
of its early phases, right, and

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and the Secret Space Program assets and
all that have just exaggerated the story and

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created this entire narrative of nonsense and
quite frankly bullshit. I mean, excuse

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my language here, but it's it's
complete bullshit. And I've been trying to

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really blow the whistle on that on
my channel for around eight nine months now,

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you know, really digging down deep
into the stuff and figure out the

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reason of why they would be trying
to cover this up, because it's been

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a really big detriment to real secret
space program researchers, right, like doctor

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Joseph Farrell, like Walter Bosley,
Like they're kind of like afraid to even

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talk about it anymore because we've had
this whole exaggerated secret space program time travel,

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regenitive technology, highly dance technology,
fighting aliens in space, a regression

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laser beams, you know, highly
advanced interdimensional craft, and like all this

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nonsense about it that it's really muddied
the waters of really what's happening. And

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uh, you know good friends online
Laura who was in my TR three B

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documentary I did over a year ago. Now she has a channel on YouTube

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called Space Force News, and her
whole stick, like, her whole channel

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is dedicated to just talking about what's
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military wise, anomalies wise. It's
really a great channel and she puts a

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lot of factual research into what she
does. She looks at like anything we

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can get our hands on in terms
of news and releases, and that's really

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good work. She likes to equate
you know, the whole Corey Good tribe

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to being like essentially just a massive
larp, you know, like people that

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are think that they're you know,
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fantasy, but in space. And
I tend to agree with her. It

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really doesn't bring anything to uphology.
It takes away. Well, if something

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is known to be you know,
fake and false, but somebody else believes

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it with their whole heart, then
what are you supposed to do in that

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situation? Right? Do you say, oh, well, you know you're

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fake, you're you're you're making this
stuff up. But what if they actually

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believe it? Because there are some
people that I've ran into that I've claimed

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to be a part of these programs
that legitimately believe that they went to space

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for twenty years and then when they
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in space, and then there were
age regrassed back to the very point that

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they were taking right, and they're
they're taking this as like and they're putting

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it out there as an actual legitimate
physical experience right when it's when it's impossible

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that doesn't line up with reality.
That's not a physical possibility in this three

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D physical reality, right, it's
not when you put common sense and critical

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thinking to it, it doesn't make
any sense, you know. So like

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it's it's a really touchy, weird
subject on that front, I guess,

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like, here's my take on it. It's like, first of all,

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it literally doesn't matter at all.
I've never even known any of that stuff

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that you're talking about in my life. Is no difference, right, So

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it doesn't matter at all. If
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I have no problem with that.
If other people are are in a

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place where that's what they want to
do is join in them with that delusion

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and read that fan fiction and have
that whole experience, also doesn't matter to

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me if that person then comes to
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regulating my life or I'm miserable,
or I'm sad or I'm whatever, right,

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and then they're asking me to help
them with that, and they're saying,

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like, I believe this has happened
to me. Even then I'll still

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say you believe that's happened to you. And then I'll maybe point out,

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like, has it been helpful for
you? To believe that. Has it

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increased your positivity in life? Do
you feel empowered? Are you able to

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do the things that make you happy
as a person? And if the answer

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is no, is it possible that
you let go of some of those beliefs

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and maybe focus on other things?
Right? Because again it's not Why would

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it affect my life if they think
that's happened to them, I don't care.

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I don't care if you think you're
a dog or you're a fucking unicorn

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and you prance around with like tails
and streamers and what doesn't affect me at

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all. The only time it will
ever matter to me is if you're coming

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to me and asking me for my
help in some way, right, Or

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again, if you're going to some
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something, they're also then going to
care. But before that moment, who

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cares? And even when you're saying, oh, but there's people, they're

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kind of gathering up into their lies
and making them believe this stuff. That's

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not their fault. That's those people's
fault. Those people have a problem or

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don't right, those people chose to
go find someone who is not believable and

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go off with no evidence, and
then you know, throw their money or

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their time or their life into this
thing. That happens in every category we

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can think of, right, it
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people who say they're spiritual healers.
It happens with people who are just selling

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produce at a store. Like you
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shit no matter what category you're looking
at life and that's all you, right,

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that's the person, the individual's responsibility. So even then I'm not too

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concerned with their lies or their things
that they're you know, I understand it's

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different if this is like your life's
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what you see as the truth.
It is very frustrating to see people get

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away with this, especially when they're
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like all the attention, right because
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it's misdirecting everybody from what might actually
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that, so I don't care.
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affects me personally, but I tend
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don't care. It does not affect
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does affect the community, and I
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when people are putting out bogus,
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passing them off as real stories,
and they're making money off of that and

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writing books about that and making it
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a problem. It's not a problem
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just like you, like, I
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about the integrity and the honor of
the community. And it's muddying the waters

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of real researchers and real people that
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blow the whistle on real things that
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problem that I have with it,
right. There's nothing that's nothing to do

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with me personally, I could,
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It's more about the integrity and the
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are actually putting out real, good
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it's not. This is what they
claim, They that these SSP people were

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taken as a child by the military
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vary, right, and suffered torture
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cages, you know, very little
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through a jump room to Mars or
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fight aliens in space with highly advanced
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laser guns, uh technology like medbeds
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after all that, right after serving
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long, they say that it is
they're age regressed magically, right back to

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the very time that the very moment
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What do you think of that?
M Okay, multiple things. Ultimately

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I'll get to the only the only
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these the people who tell stories like
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up and lying that it could be. But first, essentially, I think

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all of that is a bunch of
nuns. Sense that people who want attention

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and want to be stars in the
UFO world, you know, go on

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whatever outlet will have them on and
make these claims because they know that the

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audience is going to be wild and
entertained, and they're not going to question,

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and certainly not the hosts that will
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it's nonsense. It's absolutely ridiculous,
it's fantasy, and I think it has

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been very damaging to Uphology into the
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David Wilcox is really freaking out trying
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and I predict that we will never
ever see those two together again. David

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Wilcox got a cut and run from
this guy because he's creating too many problems

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for him, not the least of
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up his fake stories for five years
now. Have you seen that? Have

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you seen that video of David Wilcox
saying that how about how he verified Corey's

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story psychic communication or whatever, that's
how he verified Corey's story was real.

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He said, if what you're doing
with Corey is real, and I want

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you to have him answer this question, I want you to tell him to

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tell me the answer to this question. He needs to know what the question

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was and what the answer is.
And I didn't say it out loud.

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I never talked to anybody about it. I only did it in my head.

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And by God, the next time
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he calls me up and he says, well, David, I don't know

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why, but they told me to
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blah, and the answer is blah
blah blah. And I was like,

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no, fin way, that is
the closest I could come to due diligence

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on this where I got yeah,
the Egyptian god rab and also in a

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case, in a case of terrible
timing, David Wilcox's new book, which

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he claims is from communications with the
archangel Michael, who, by the way,

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is telling him to take bans in
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told him that corey stories are true, which is a big problem because if

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you know anything about biblical prophecies or
prophets, you know there's something called the

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test of a prophet, which essentially
says, if you're wrong one time,

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you're not a prophet. And if
if an entity For example, David Wilcox

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is claiming he's in communication with the
archangel Michael. Divine divine sources are not

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wrong. So, in other words, if if God is speaking to a

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prophet or the archangel Michael is speaking
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and any of that information, even
one thing turns out to be incorrect,

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misleading, or wrong, then that's
proof by itself that you're not in

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communication with a divine source. The
Bible is very clear on this, It's

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called the test of a prophet.
If you're wrong one time, that means

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that you're not speaking to God,
You're not speaking to a divine source like

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an angel. You're most likely speaking
to demons or some trickster, you deceptive

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spirit masquerading as a divine source.
So this becomes a huge problem for David

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who's claiming that other people are Luciferian
Satanists. And meanwhile, I can prove

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through Bible scripture and verse that David
Wilcox is essentially selling people information that most

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likely, according to the Bible,
is coming from demons, not angels.

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That's going to be a real problem
for his sales. And also what terrible

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timing David Wilcock really needs money.
He comes out with his book that he

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claims is from the archangel Michael,
who also, by the way, he's

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talking to the Blessed Mother, she's
appearing to him too. Um. But

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out of all the people in the
world, all the people on earth,

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archangel Michailock. Yeah. But the
terrible timing is that David Wilcock, you

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have all of his money to this
scammy aerospace company, Stavanti Aerospace, and

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I'm told that's one of the reasons
his wife left him. But anyway,

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he really needs money right now.
So he comes out with this book that

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he's saying is from the archangel Michael, and there's verifiable proof that it's all

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inaccurate information because he's saying Corey Good
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And this happens he puts he puts
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days before these depositions all come out
proving that it's all fake and that David

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Wilcock has been pushing fake information from
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Really quick, would this technology be
able to distort people's views and beliefs

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so much that it could make them
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Like, for instance, could this
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able to make you believe that you
were abducted by an alien, make you

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believe that you've seen a UFO,
make you believe that you were a part

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of a secret space program fighting aliens
in space for twenty years, and then

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be an age regress back to the
very point that you were taking. Oh.

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Absolutely absolutely. I mean, I
you know, people come to me

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all the time because they think that
I'm you know, I'm studying space and

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geoengineering, and so these things are
interesting to me. Well they're not really

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interesting. I mean, they're interesting, but I would need to know a

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lot more in order to say it's
real. Because if your brain is being

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manipulated, and we've already talked about
a couple of technologies that are capable of

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manipulating the brain at a distance,
it doesn't matter the distance. We're talking

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satellite transmission. We're talking thousands of
miles, it doesn't matter. The distance

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doesn't exist in this If you keep
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over many thousands of miles that are
instantaneous. I mean We do it all

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the time, right, You send
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boom, they're sending something back to
you the next minute. So what's so

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amazing about the fact that the computer
brain is being accessed and full blown three

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D even four D realities are are
just better than movie wrap around movies.

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I mean, they're so real you
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you know it used to it.
How remember when the CIA and the early

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m Gay Alter days was experimenting on
everyone with LSD. I see that they

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can manipulate people into having experiences they're
absolutely real. And I want to make

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a point there that if you have
had an experience, it is absolutely real

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and taught you something. I don't
want to rob you of that you've had

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that experience, but if you're going
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existed in this world for everybody around
you at the same time, I can't

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go there because I know how the
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you know. I mean this is
something that I don't know. I don't

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I don't quite understand why people get
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the super soldier idea, all of
the different programs that the CIA and who

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knows who NSA, whoever are running
in order to experiment with what realities you

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can create synthetic realities that are just
this. You know, it's like we're

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doing synthetic biology. Now this is
it's working like biology, but it's been

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gain of function, It's been changed
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yet there is I mean, it
works very well, but let's try to

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main teen what is of nature?
What is in this time space where we

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are without getting so attached to our
own personal experiences that we have had.

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They thought to themselves, how do
we keep this from happening again? Right?

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How do we keep any of the
countless MK ultra survivors from coming forward

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with real information, with real factual
evidence and testimony about what we're doing to

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them? Right, that they're being
used as drug mules, intelligence operation,

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coercion, prostitution, assassins, a
spying, and a whole host of different

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things. Right. And I think
they were like, I know the perfect

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cover for that, right, And
they went back to their lab. They

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thought up of this genius plant.
Right, let's make them believe they were

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in space fighting aliens, right,
oh yeah, and get everyone talking about

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that so that the real stuff that's
happening on Earth can be covered up and

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we won't have another Kathy O'Brien on
our hands testifying in front of Congress about

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the very real operations that we've been
doing on the planet. Right, Because

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if you get people talking about something
that's fake but similar enough to the truth,

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they will always opt in for the
most extravagant story, and the real

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story can be brushed under the ruck, exactly right. And if it goes

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to theraical then people think is beyond
their realm to affect. In fact,

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this is within our realm to affect, and they definitely try to make it

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look like, um like, like
it's not. And I also think it's

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funny that now that on um,
like on the Internet, they covered up

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you look up um, you look
me up on Wikipedia and it says I'm

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a conspiracy theorist, and it's like
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You know, it's like what you
know? So they keep coming up with

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these ways to try to divert and
dilute attention from truth. But the truth

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is out there and it's coming out, and they can't. They can't silence

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it. They so many government secrets
and personal reputations were staked on their belief

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that I couldn't be d programed to
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They were wrong. You should have
seen their faces when they tried to

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trigger me and it wouldn't work,
and I would just laugh at him.

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It was. It shifted their paradigm, and they need to have their paradigm

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shifted once in from