This's all got the bound kick east to the wide wonder at the door they
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up after two o'clock today is Frank LeRose, Ohio Secretary of State. Want
to discuss with him what it was like to lose the US Senate race,
which is always a bad thing. He was more or less picked by the
Republican Party in Washington to be the preferred candidate against Senator Brown. That didn't
work out that well. And then secondly, there is the story out there
pending about whether or not Joe Biden's going to make the balloon in Ohio.
But until then, the Great Scott Powell Rediscovering America dot Com and Moore and
Scott Powell, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Scott, you
have so many columns up, but I want to focus on one in the
beginning. Are you ready? I am, yes, Bill, Stage four,
which is you have a column up about what's happening in America today.
You've been more optimistic about this than I have been, which I love.
But you did a column about how leftist socialists and communists overwhelm a system,
overwhelm a country with stage four Many Americans think we're in stage four cancer right
now. But describe your interview with this communist and how America is well on
its road to a bad outcome. Well, you're speaking of Eury bestment Off.
Eury bestment Off was a high level you know, Soviet Communist Party operator.
He was I think thehead of Novasty Press. Anyway, he had a
sort of a recognition that he was working for an utterly corrupt system, and
he defected from the Soviet Union. I think he defected to Canada and he
ended up coming into the United States in the nineteen eighties, and he felt
it was his duty to explain exactly how the communists subvert target countries, and
that would include the United States, include all countries that when the Soviet decides
to, you know, to get the communist party established, their Communist Party
operators established in Mozambique or Angola or you know, or you know, Vietnam
or Laos. They use a formula and it's a formula that starts off the
first stage of the formula is to is to demoralize the target population. Typically,
when they demoralize people, they work to undermine their religion, undermine the
family, undermined the heritage of the country. The next stage, and that
can take several that can take a generation or more to accomplish. It typically
takes a generation at least, because you've got to get the kids and you've
got to you've got to, you know, work it through until they become
you know, the adults, the decision makers. The next stage is disorientation
or destabilization. And in disorientation, it's in some ways it's an extension of
the demoralization, but it's usually more more targeted, more specific. Uh.
And to give you an example of how this worked in America, we know
we've been demoralized for really several generations. The schools and the culture of America
have really departed from what made this country great. And that's happened since at
least the nineteen sixties, so we've had several generations of you know, of
demoralization. The disorientation that we all can identify happened with the COVID pandemic.
When the COVID pandemic was rolled out. It was based on fear. It
drove it. It transformed American culture in a way that had never been done
before, where American people gave up their freedom, they succumbed to you know,
mandates and social distancing. And and ultimately, of course, that environment
was used to change voting laws in all of the swing states, most of
the swing states, so that mail in ballots, ballot harvesting deposit boxes were
spread out, uh and and that that led to you know, massive voting
irregularity, vote frauds specifically, and that of course ended up getting you know,
u ending Donald Trump's administration and bringing in the the you know, the
Chinese controlled Joe Biden, who continue who has continued this break down America.
I mean, you can't point to anything that the Biden administration has done that
has helped the American people, whether it's the southern border, whether it's the
you know, willful revision and destruction of US history and monuments, whether it's
the stoking of social division from ever expanding ethnic groups. Classes. Genders also
manifested in lgbt Q, and the most recent assault on the family, of
course is the whole transgender movement. This did not happen without orchestration, you
know, and has to understand that our country is under attack. Hold on
to stay on the first three morality, family values, uh, and then
we could just keep going that the constant attack on the constitutional basis of the
American government, the systematic attack on police and law enforcement, and the promotion
of a two tier justice system. Everybody can see this. It has not
happened by accident. Is all part of a master plan to take America down,
and we are now in that crisis. The final stage really is the
normalization, but the prior stage is the crisis stage. And since we have
an illegitimate government now in America, we're really no different than a Banana republic,
and so we we we we are a fundamentally, you know, our
country is in crisis. So what I know, So the Besmanov plan has
been carried out in America quite well. Now the last stage is normalization.
And normalization means that all of these things that have all these new things that
have happened to America become normalized. That you know, America is no longer
the America that we knew in our childhood is gone, and it's been replaced
by what I've just described a new system where vote fraud is we accept the
fact that we don't have legitimate elections. I mean, this is unbelievable that
this has happened to this country, but it has, and the American people
can push back. I don't believe that this is going to be normalized.
I think I have faith in the American people. That is the source of
my optimism, and also in the power of God, because people are turning
to God more than ever before, which is natural. When people are confused,
when nothing makes sense, you tend to turn to something you can trust.
And even though people may not read the Bible regularly, they understand that
it is the book of truth and that Jesus Christ and Christianity are the bedrock
of America. And we find that a lot of people are turning, you
know, turning to God in ways we haven't seen really in decades. And
so I have these two sources of odumas. I believe in the American people,
the common sense of the American people. They can see what's going on,
they're rejecting it. And I believe that, you know, God's hand
is now at work in a bigger way. Scott Powell you have a great
rediscovering America dot com. But the stages are every time I talk to individuals
that know what's going on, and the good A good chunk of the American
population is stuck on TikTok. They have no idea what's going on. Thank
god they don't vote. Thank god they don't vote. But demoralization, religion,
faith, family, our heritage, the schools, dis orientation, which
is DEI CRT ballad harvesting, mail in dropboxes, crisis, we're in a
riots, and a sense that what in the hell's going on in the southern
border with fentanyl. Then lastly is normalization. Maybe you have more hope and
faith than I have about normalization because I say that if November fifth, if
we don't stop this, what Donald Trump back in office and we continue on
this path, would you have the same feeling Scott Powell have come November,
we put the regime of Biden and Harris still in charge, and then she
happens to be elected president after that for four to eight years after that,
if this continues another eight to ten years, would you give up all hope
at that point? Bill, We never give up all hope. Why because
you know we have a life beyond the world in which we live. And
if this is sort of the last days, well we still have that hope
that will be with the Lord in our eternal life. So I never give
up hope. But I do believe that God really was at the foundation of
the formation of America. He brought Christians to America that we're seeking freedom.
We established thirteen colonies out of that king. You know, we had a
great awakening bringing the colonies together. They decided to rebel, to establish freedom
from Great Britain. And you know the story of George Washington. Never it
was an impossible task that George Washington with his you know, his his limited
resources, underfunded, undertrained, under equipped, fewer you know, fewer soldiers
than the British had. The navy of America was seven converted merchant ships.
The British navy along our coast was two hundred and seventy ships, two hundred
and seventy warships. How were we going to Brits? But we did because
God's hand enabled that to happen. So our challenges are are every bit is
great. In some ways they are different today than they were at the founding
of the country. But it's the same dynamics. Impossible things can happen with
God's help, Impossible obstacles can be overcome, and so I I am an
optimist. Yes, on Monday, a trial's going to start in a dirty
New York City courtroom in which the leader of the opposition party, which has
now been indicted I think eighty five times, after six counts were dismissed involving
the payment to a porn star named Stormy Daniels in twenty oh seven, there
was allegedly a get together and the money one hundred and thirty five thousand was
paid, And that is now metastasized into Donald Trump not able to campaign for
the next eight weeks. And the fact that this judge Merchant, who by
the way, gave the judge trying Donald Trump beginning on Monday, gave financial
benefits, gave checks to Joe Biden's election efforts, and his daughter, who's
a mature thirty seven year old, has raised tens of millions of dollars for
Kamala Harris. She's a Democratic activist. And that's the group in charge of
Donald Trump's freedom. Can you imagine six to eight weeks from now, He's
convicted of I don't know, thirty five counts which make it a felony,
and he is like sentenced to a New York State prison. That is a
that that that's the final solution by the Democrats to make sure that the leader
of the opposition party can hold power because he's going to be locked up in
prison. Uh if that happens, what do you Where does that fit into
your normal Where does that fit into your hope? I need hope. I
need hope, Scott pal I need hope. Bill. I think he'll be
elected from prison. If that happens, well, I think he'll be elected.
So this will be an unprecedented, uh, something unprecedented. The big
issue that we have. We know he's going to sweep the election in November,
but can can we really stop a vote fraud or or or are the
operatives gonna you know, uh, you know, open the floodgates of a
vote fraud through the illegal you know, getting illegals to vote. I don't
think they have the numbers even with cheating. I think that I think that
America is now really awake. I think many people are leaving the Democrat Party.
We know that yes, the Blacks, the Hispanics, even elected politicians
are leaving the party. You know, it's incredible what's going on. You
really can't explain it other than there is something beyond an otherworldly power that is
propelling some changes that I think are going to move things in a direction that
saves America. The two issues that are the bullets to the brain are number
one, the illegal migration across the southern border encouraged by Joe Biden, and
number two is borrowing every one hundred days a new trillion dollars. Unless those
two issues are resolved. Despite great hope, we cannot have one hundred million
more single unattached males running around eric one hundred million plus borrowing this kind of
money. It must be stopped, and so you know it has to be
stopped. You kind of didn't answer the question, which I understand why because
you have great hope. But if we go through the next ten to fifteen
years of the same policies and we have one hundred and fifty million more and
we have fentanyl debts that are half a million a year, we have a
dollar that is worthless and it's no longer the reserve currency around the world because
it is not worth anything. Will you still have that hope, Scott Powell,
no bill bill, it would be over. So what I did say
was my hope that if if we can't turn things around and we continue in
the same trajectory, I mean, we don't have many years left before a
financial collapse. That was my latest column is that we are really it's beyond
belief that debt, that the federal debt, the government debt has grown eightfold
since you know, since Obama office. At the end of the Bush administration,
we had eight trillion dollars in debt. Now we now have well I
should say it grew fourfold. We now have thirty thirty four and a half
trillion. That's an unbelievable growth in debt in a short period of time.
And the trajectory is that it keeps growing. So we're going to have a
day of reckoning, and I think it's going to happen. I think it's
gonna everything's going to hinge on this November election. So if we can have
success in removing the corrupt political power in America and installing and getting you know,
Trump and his people elected, I think they're going to be dramatic changes
made and the people will support it. I mean, we have the benefit
of all these hearings we've been having. We know that we have a corrupt
system. It's utterly corrupt. There's no future for our kids or our grandchildren.
We've got it. We've we've got to We've got to transform America in
a in the way that restores the freedom, the limited government, and all
of all all of those things that were part of our heritage that made us
a great country. If we can restore that, we can again, as
Trump says, we will make America great again. And I believe that it's
possible, yeah to do. Even from a state prison. The American people
would say, we can't take this anymore. We're demoralized, we're disorientated.
There's crises everywhere, but this cannot be normalized. That this cannot be the
way we live our lives in which millions and millions of illegals are send ballots
in the mail because they receive a driver's license. We can't have that anymore,
and somehow we can. It must be too too big to rig.
It's got to be the ten great bill bill. You just came up with
a great one. Can you you want to you want to make that a
bumper sticker. Too big to rig? Well, I'm I mean, it's
got to be not just ten thousand votes, has got to be so big
it can't be rigged. And that's the hole. It's going to be very
big. It's going to be Look the deep intelligence people like Martin Arms Armstrong,
who has amazing a track record of success in knowing what people are thinking
and knowing the political lamps. They say that Joe Biden has an eight percent
approval rating. Eight that's the real number for Joe Biden. I think eight
percent. I don't think. I think that's too high. I don't know
anybody can approve of this. Well, Scott Powell, we got to go.
Your stuff's at townhall dot com. Scott Powell Rediscovering America Demoralized, disoriented,
crisis but not normal. Don't be normal. And Scott Powell, you're
the best there is at this stuff. And thank you for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show. Scott Powell, you're very kind, though you're very kind.
You just keep up the good work there. You're you're the one who
carrying the weight here and you're getting the word out there. And I appreciate
it too big, Deray, too big to ring. I love it.
God, bless you, thank you, Scott Powell, thank you. All
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