WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.560 --> 00:00:07.639 Good evening and welcome to the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW for Tuesday Night, 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:11.359 October twenty fourth, twenty twenty three, on Gary Jeff Walker sitting down, 3 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:16.160 checking in the world seemingly on the brink of World War three, now Chinese 4 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:22.320 warships joining in the fun in the Middle East, and our carrier groups standing 5 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:27.399 behind the Mediterranean. Should Israel need us? The Hamas terrorists continue to ask 6 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:35.560 for ceasefires after they brutally raped and murdered Israeli citizens Jewish people in their homes 7 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:40.520 in their towns just a little over two weeks ago. All the experts on 8 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:46.520 TV and radio, well, there's there're a dime a dozen because many of 9 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:51.320 us who are trying to speak and know what's going on with the impending ground 10 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:58.119 invasions or what material Israel may have had or the US may have gathered as 11 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:03.239 far as our hostages being held by As. Yet everybody seems to have an 12 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.480 opinion, but nobody knows Squat and I'm in that group too. I'm just 13 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:11.239 sitting and watching and going, well, this is it, isn't it. 14 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:17.359 I don't want to be that blunt, but it looks like it. We'll 15 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:21.040 have Peter Bronson with us, who's got a brand new book, The Man 16 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.599 who Saves Cincinnati, will talk about that and much more with Pete. Dan 17 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:29.319 Carroll will stop in for Carol's Corner. Dave Hatter, hoping that Roco Costellano, 18 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:34.239 our trainer Extraordinary, stops by Mike Reader from Mike's Music with some more 19 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:40.439 fun stories. And we'll also have the fur Ball Andy Furman and my wife 20 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.480 christ To two point zero before the show is over, makes her picks for 21 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:51.439 a week eight in the NFL season because DraftKings asked for it. No, 22 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:57.719 they did not. Anyway, The show continues in mere moments as we get 23 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.040 you going, it's the Nightcap. Glad you here. Good stuff ahead on 24 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:07.439 seven hundred WLW. And as we begin this evening on the telephone with us 25 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:13.759 Peter Bronson demand the Myth the author and he is back with a new book. 26 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.840 We'll talk about that in a few minutes. But Pete first and foremost, 27 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:20.439 welcome back to the night Cap. How are you this evening? I'm 28 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.719 doing great? How you doing very? Jeff? It's good to do with 29 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:27.400 what's my friend Mike Davis say? Too? Blessed distress or better than I 30 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:31.319 deserve or any number of answers you can give to that. But I'm just 31 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:39.520 o, I'm I'm just ducky. Thanks. So I opened up the saying, 32 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:46.159 now that the Chinese are in the Middle East with their warships matching our 33 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:50.280 carrier group. As someone who knows the Bible a little bit, and he 34 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.719 looks at if you look at the Revelation of John at the end of the 35 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:59.439 New Testament, all the pieces seem to be coming into place. But yet 36 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.960 we know too that as Christians, if you know the verse, no man 37 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.039 will know the hour or the day, but you will see the signs. 38 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.360 Man, We've been rife with signs that something big is about to happen, 39 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:15.719 haven't we. Oh well, I'll say this all does follow a lot of 40 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:22.599 the symbolism and literal text of the New Testament, in the book Revelation and 41 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:27.039 in the Old Testament, with a lot of that. However, whenever I 42 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:30.439 start to go down that path, then I think, if we think that 43 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:35.840 this is the end times, how much people have felt back in the nineteen 44 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.319 forties when they had what was going on with World War Two, with the 45 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:46.400 Nazis and the Evil Empire in Japan taking over the world and it looked unstoppable, 46 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:51.639 or if you could go move ahead a little bit to Stalin when you 47 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.919 see some of these things. So I guess the caution is always there. 48 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:59.159 You won't as you said and quoted, you won't know the hour, and 49 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.560 it's not our to try and figure these things out, but the signs are 50 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:06.520 going to be there by the more. Let's put it this way. We 51 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:12.719 live in very interesting time, yeah, And I just wonder. I just 52 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:18.319 wonder if our respecse if our response back in nineteen seventy nine to Iran had 53 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:25.360 been bolder, or if we'd moved to take the Iyatolas out when they committed 54 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:30.639 the active war of taking over our embassy and holding American hostages hostage for four 55 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.000 hundred and forty four days. I just wonder if our response then had been 56 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:39.920 different, maybe we'd be dealing with a different kind of Iran, which is 57 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:46.319 obviously behind this murderous behavior of Hamas. They're financing it, and they're encouraging 58 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.240 it, and they're probably helping plant it. And I'm sure that's why the 59 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:55.399 Chinese warships are there, because they're in cahoots with the Mullahs in Iran and 60 00:04:55.480 --> 00:05:00.600 it's all about It's still all about oil. Isn't that amazing? That's what 61 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:04.120 some people say, as far as they're concerned, it isn't to me. 62 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:10.399 You can look back and this is just a fact of history, as partisan 63 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:15.040 as it sounds. But you can go back to Carter inviting more aggression by 64 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:19.360 Iran by being weak. Then you go to Clinton, who passed up opportunities 65 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:25.560 to respond with some decisiveness and again invited more aggression. Then you go to 66 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.639 Obama, who not only invited it, but paid for more aggression. And 67 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.319 now you have President Biden, whose weakness is projected throughout the world, not 68 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:40.319 just in his policies, but in his physical being. He is one of 69 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:45.800 the weakest presidents, one of the most mentally incapacitated presidents we've ever had. 70 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:51.439 And our world leaders around the China, North Korea, Iran, they don't 71 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:57.600 fail to notice this. They know exactly what's going on. All those same 72 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:04.439 countries sure noticed when president was in office, and their behavior was markedly different. 73 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:11.120 There was no question about that. Well, Iran was in a bottle. 74 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.759 More or less, North Korea had backed off Russia. We had an 75 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:18.759 unprecedented time of peace. At the end of Trump's term, whatever you say 76 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:23.439 about the guy, he delivered in all the ways that people say they want, 77 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:29.480 better economy, more jobs, better standard of living, life expectancy was 78 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:34.160 going up. We had a safe, relatively safe cities until we had the 79 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:41.319 riots. And I mean all these things were because of his policies and because 80 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.199 he projected strength and refused to back down, and they knew it, they 81 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.480 knew that they It sort of reminds me of when Reagan was called a cowboy, 82 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:55.439 but that was very useful to our in the way that we use that 83 00:06:55.480 --> 00:07:00.639 against our enemies because they felt like he was just unpredictable enough they didn't dare 84 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.879 to step on the line. Do you remember all of the rhetoric leading up 85 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:09.480 to the nineteen eighty election and people were saying, well, president, if 86 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:13.160 Reagan gets elected, we're going to be a nuclear war. We were never 87 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.639 farther away from nuclear war, even though the weapons were still pointed in both 88 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:25.000 directions when Ronald Reagan was president, because again, peace through strength, trust, 89 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:30.600 but verify, and a strong and a strong stature all over the world. 90 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:35.759 Cowboy or now, I'll take the cowboy as long as he's he's got 91 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:40.839 the hat and the saddle to match, and seemingly Ronald Reagan did, and 92 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.600 seemingly Donald Trump did too. Uh away. You know, you know the 93 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.199 the old sci fi movies where there's always a professor who wanders out to the 94 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:54.399 flying saucer and he's saying, we come in peace, and they bry him. 95 00:07:54.839 --> 00:08:01.079 Yeah. Basically, the Democrats foreign policy for the for my higher lifetime 96 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:07.759 is to try to negotiate from weakness and invite aggression. And it just doesn't 97 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:09.800 work. You'd think that after sixty years of this people would have figured it 98 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.199 out, but they have not. Well, actually it does work. When 99 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:18.399 you deal from a point of weakness, you do get more aggression. So 100 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:24.959 maybe that's their goal ultimately. Anyway, boy, maybe there's some kind of 101 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:30.800 backwards you know, genius to it, but I've never been able to see 102 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:35.039 it. The Jewish people have the right to defend themselves in any way they 103 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:41.559 see fit after they were attacked. Agree or not. Amen, brother, 104 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.679 I absolutely agree. And it's absolute idiocy for us to be suggesting that they 105 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:56.919 should respond to this lawless terrorism by following rigid rules of conduct. There is 106 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.559 no way that that's why asymmetrical warfare war work. It's because one side is 107 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.799 wearing handcuffs and the other side is free to do whatever they please. It 108 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.639 would be like going into the ring and big time wrestling and one guy is 109 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:15.080 I'm not allowed to use his fists or his feet, and the other guy 110 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.440 can do whatever he wants. It's crazy, and yet that's exactly what our 111 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.919 government is doing right now. We're hobbling Israel and the whole world is all 112 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.440 all of a sudden counseling, caution and restraint. Where were they when Hamas 113 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.559 is doing and is doing what it's doing now? Well, Plus, I 114 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:39.960 don't think that we need to know everything that Israel's doing at all times. 115 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.679 In fact, I hopefully don't. I hope my fervent prayer, Pete, 116 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:50.039 is that right now as we speak and they keep on talking about the imminent 117 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:56.000 ground invasion and Israel's being held at bay, what I hope is there are 118 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:00.399 all kinds of things going on behind the scenes. Who knows. Maybe the 119 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:07.519 ID efforts already infiltrated those tunnels in Gaza. Maybe they're already doing the work 120 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:13.960 quietly without anyone knowing, and no one is talking. That's what I'd like 121 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.080 to see. I mean, you don't you don't have to tell the enemy 122 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:18.799 everything you're doing. In fact, you don't have to tell your own people 123 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:24.279 everything you're doing it, every moment you're doing it. I agree with you. 124 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:30.440 I think that's a great insight that But it's in a way also those 125 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:37.600 days are gone, because now we have a situation where the Palestinians and Hamas 126 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:43.039 terrorists actually blew up that hospital parking lot, and within minutes it's flashed all 127 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:48.600 over every headline through our mainstream media that should know better. It was recklessly 128 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:54.120 irresponsible for them to do that. And yet that's the world we live in 129 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.759 now. It's instantaneous, twenty four to seven media cycle, and everything is 130 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:05.039 available by a cell phone, video and propaganda, and unfortunately most of the 131 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.279 news, a lot of the news that we see around this iss fake news. 132 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:16.799 Oh yeah, there's no question about that. The hospital incident is first 133 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:22.600 and foremost in this pecking order of the most recent thing that's happened. It's 134 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:31.240 spurred protests all over America in college campuses who were calling for Israel basically to 135 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:35.759 be wiped off the mat because of their horrible treatment of the poor Palestini, 136 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:41.000 the poor oppressed Palestinian people who continue to elect terrorists to represent them, going 137 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:46.360 all the way back from Yasir Arafat to now with Hamas. You know, 138 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:52.679 Pete, elections have consequences. I've heard that from somewhere sometime before kid And 139 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.720 in two thousand and six when Israel pulled out of the Gaza, they elected 140 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.919 terrorists to run their country and to provide your some their safety and security. 141 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:07.080 So they're kind of reaping what they sewed when they choose, you know, 142 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.960 terrorist leaders. Again, well, I love it when our American politicians say 143 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:20.039 that Hamas does not represent the Palestinians. They literally do. Yeah, they 144 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.799 literally are there elected representatives. So you can tell me that the elections rig 145 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.879 You can tell me anything you want. But if they did not want Amas 146 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:33.320 to be representing them, then they would make sure they weren't. But it's 147 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.519 just ridiculous. Talking with Peter Bronson on the Nightcap on seven hundred, wlw 148 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:43.360 P first wrote famously behind the lines about the Timothy Tops Beverly Hills supper club 149 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.240 Blaze, which he and I have talked about and you probably have a copy 150 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:54.679 of. It's great book and sold very well. And then then the the 151 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.879 last book before this new one, which was yet not in our town. 152 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.200 Town, not in our town. That was it the King of Smut versus 153 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.639 of Queen City, or vice versus city versus the King of Smutt. That's 154 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.240 right. I got it about Larry Flint and the Mob. And now the 155 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:18.879 new book is The Man who Saves Cincinnati. Tell me about this. I've 156 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.360 kind of found a niche I really love, which is local history. And 157 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.000 I think most of Cincinnati really enjoys it too. And if you do a 158 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.879 little digging, and I love to do the research, you can find some 159 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:33.360 real treasures, some stories that our region has long forgotten or never really gave 160 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.679 attention to, that it deserves. In this book, we can you can 161 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:45.240 read about the man who literally saved Cincinnati from a Confederate attack in eighteen sixty 162 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:50.879 two. He formed the first black brigade in the Union Army. This is 163 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.360 the first one anywhere in the Union Army. He captured Billy the kids, 164 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:00.200 and stopped a range war in New Mexico. This guy was unbelievable, and 165 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:05.360 he wrote one of the greatest books in American literature, Ben her which still, 166 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.279 by the way, holds the shares the record for oscars at eleven. 167 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.919 That's not to say he was roun when the movie was made, because he 168 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.600 was a contemporary. He was a general during the Civil War, he fought 169 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:22.320 in Shiloh. He did so many things that anybody who thinks they've had an 170 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.320 accomplished life could read this and feel like one heck of a slacker. Let 171 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.759 me tell you that that's great. Where'd you get the idea for this? 172 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:33.879 Did you just stumble across this information? It's stuff you already knew, or 173 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.159 I mean, what inspired this book? Pete? Well, I've been a 174 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:46.919 Civil War kind of hobbyist for most of my time in Cincinnati, since I 175 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.559 joined a group of guys that were known as we call ourselves, the Cincinnati 176 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:56.240 Irregulars, and we went around from battlefield to battlefield just to learn about our 177 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:00.879 history and tend to make buddy trips road trips and really had a good time 178 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.200 with it. But it got me really interested in the Civil War, especially 179 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:09.399 battlefields like Gettysburg and Shiloh. And while I was studying Shiloh and getting involved 180 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.480 in it, I learned about this man Lou Wallace. He was a general 181 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:20.080 from Indiana, Crawfordsville, Indiana, and he was the man who was selected 182 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:26.080 to come and help Cincinnati, and it's hours of greatest need in September of 183 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:31.960 eighteen sixty two when a Confederate army was coming marching north to take the city 184 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:37.679 for ransom or burn it or plunder it, and he had only days to 185 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:43.080 get a defense organized in Cincinnati. And it's just an amazing story of what 186 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:48.600 he accomplished and the things that happened in the city. So it's out now. 187 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.960 I expect to have this out in about two weeks, and I'm hoping 188 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:00.879 to get to the printer next week and have books available for bookstores and also 189 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:06.480 online at my website, chilidog press dot com. And so I'll be selling 190 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.919 signed copies there and cranking this up in time for Christmas sales. Well, 191 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:17.840 you obviously have a very You've had a very prolific five or six years here 192 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.720 when it comes to churning out great books. I mean, congratulate, thank 193 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:25.200 you, thank you. Oh. I just love doing it. I'm never 194 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.080 happier than when I'm doing the research, except when I'm doing the writing. 195 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:32.679 And I just love to write, and I just when I dig into these 196 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.320 stories, it's it's sort of like I just keep shaking my head, like 197 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:40.679 I can't believe this stuff. Well, for example, I uncovered, thanks 198 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:45.639 to some help from researchers, researchers that I interviewed, I uncovered an assassination 199 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:55.679 plot to kill Abraham Lincoln in Cincinnati. It nearly succeeded. Wow. So 200 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:03.879 John wilks Booth might have been upstage. That's the line of the night right 201 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:07.759 there, John wilts Booth could have been upstaged. But no. Peter Bronson, 202 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.960 the man who saved Cincinnati out in a couple of weeks. In fact, 203 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.519 when it is out, let me know and we'll chat again for a 204 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.519 moment. Okay, Oh, absolutely would love it. All right, thank 205 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:23.359 you for your time tonight. Peter Bronson, everybody on the Nightcap all was 206 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:27.519 one of our favorite guests. Always great information and just a good guy, 207 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:33.839 a great friend. More coming up after the news. It's the Nightcap on 208 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:42.480 seven hundred WLW News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 209 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:47.839 Republican infighting continues to keep the House idle with the nine thirty report, I'm 210 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:52.960 Sean Gallagher breaking now Minnesota Congressman Tom Ember the latest sominie for House speaker to 211 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:56.680 drop out, just like see scales and Jim Jordan before him, and relacking 212 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.960 support within the GOP to reach the threshold in a House vote. Emmer was 213 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:04.519 one of only two contenders for Speaker who actually voted to certify the results of 214 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.559 the twenty twenty election in the hours after the attack on the Capitol. The 215 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:14.680 other candidates did not. I asked him going into today if voting to certify 216 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.960 President Biden's victory would hurt him. Is your relationship with Trump an issue? 217 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.240 Uh? No, we have a good relationship. It proved to be his 218 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.480 downfall. BBC News is Rachel Scott a secret ballot being taken tonight to decide 219 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:32.680 among four new candidates. They are Byron Donalds of Florida, Chuck Fleischman of 220 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:37.240 Tennessee, Mark Green of Tennessee, Mike Johnson of Louisiana, and Roger Williams 221 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.480 of Texas. Fleischmann has been eliminated from contention after the first round of voting. 222 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.440 Now the latest traffic and weather together and taking a look at the major 223 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:51.000 interstates and highways. No new accidents. Now the latest forecast from the Train 224 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:56.680 Heating and Cooling Weather Center on News Radio seven hundred w l W. As 225 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:00.720 we head to our Wednesday daybreak, it's mostly cloudy. We'll see a chance 226 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.559 of a shower right through the morning. Now the rest of our Wednesday, 227 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:08.160 well, we'll start at fifty six and then finish at seventy five degrees under 228 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.599 partley to mostly cloudy skies at night, partly cloudy, and we're back to 229 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:18.519 fifty six overnight. From your Severe Weather station, I'm nine first Warning Chief 230 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:25.319 Meteorologist Steve Rawley, News Radio seven hundred WLW radar showing to cloudy sky are 231 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:29.599 Our current temperature is sixty three degrees. A man instead after a road rage 232 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.599 incident this afternoon in Florence, as police there responded to Ewing Boulevard near US 233 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:37.119 forty two just before one o'clock, where they found seventy two year old Steven 234 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.160 Stallmates of Florence suffering from a gunshot wound, and forty four year old Travis 235 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.799 Marks of Walton, who had a pistol saying that he had shot the victim. 236 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.640 Sawmates taken to Saint Elizabeth Florence Hospital initially then flown to UC Medical Center, 237 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:52.279 where he died from his injuries. Marks now in the Boom County Detention 238 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:57.359 Center, charged with murder. Hamilton County Prosecutor Melissa Powers today releasing video from 239 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.400 an incident over the rind earlier this mon where a man was choked to death 240 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.759 while announcing an indictment against the man suspected of killing forty eight year old Jason 241 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.640 McKinnon. It was the night of October fourth, after an ne f C 242 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.039 Cincinnati match, when McKinnon was walking with his wife on East fourteenth Street, 243 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:15.680 turning to warning woman that she was driving her vehicle down a down a one 244 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:19.799 way road the wrong way, leading to an altercation with twenty four year old 245 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:23.400 Devontess Davis seen running up the street to McKinnon, putting him in a choke 246 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:27.640 hold several times before fleeing the scene in that vehicle. Four days later, 247 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:33.400 Jason McKinnon succumbed to his injuries at the hospital. Davis was later arrested, 248 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:36.960 now charged with two counts of murder in a single count each of felonious assault 249 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.519 and strangulation. If convicted, Davis could spend the rest of his life in 250 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:45.799 prison. The Biggy SPNs basketball preseason coaches pool released today. Xavier picked to 251 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.400 finish sixth, Marquette getting the top spot with Creighton, Yukon Villanova and Saint 252 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.519 John's rounding out the top five. The Musketeers set to open up their season 253 00:20:53.599 --> 00:21:00.240 Monday, November sixth, when they host Robert Morris MLB Postseason Action Game seventional 254 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.880 League Championships Series in Philadelphia. The Phillies with a two one lead over the 255 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.319 Diamondbacks in the top of the fifth Currently, the winner takes on the Texas 256 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.720 Rangers in the World Series beginning Friday night in Arlington. Our next update is 257 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.880 at ten o'clock. I'm Sean Gallagher. News Radio seven hundred WLW, seven 258 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:22.319 hundred WLW, Cincinnati, available everywhere with the iHeartRadio app down number one for 259 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:30.680 podcasting seven hundred WLW and iHeartRadio station green Berry, Greenberry. Do you want 260 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:37.720 freak game? Well, I tell you what. The guy who's taken over 261 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.839 the title of the busiest working man in Tri State radio has been really knocking 262 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:45.960 it out of the park lately, on for Scott Sloane earlier today and back 263 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:51.359 at it with the midweek crisis. I believe tomorrow night here in this time 264 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:55.759 slot, the man who's taken over my position that I used to hold for 265 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:00.039 years as the whack a mole of talk radio here in town because I would 266 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.559 just pop up anywhere, you know, And you know what, Dan, 267 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:10.480 Dan Carroll is our guest. Dan. I think that you and I are 268 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:15.440 the only two people currently working at seven hundred WLW who've done the morning show, 269 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:22.000 have done the early midday show, have done Willie's show, have done 270 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:27.440 the afternoon show. I've done every show except sports talk on this station at 271 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:32.960 one time or another. And we both worked at a sister station, and 272 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.319 I even worked overnights a couple of times on the atn and I know you 273 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:40.920 were doing that for a while. So you and I are the most versatile 274 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.759 tools in the box. And you mentioned as I mentioned tools first, but 275 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:51.160 we are the most universal, versatile tools in the toolbox here at seven hundred 276 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:57.240 WLW. So we're in very very select company, you and I. Well, 277 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:00.480 you know I've been called a tool before Mary Jeff Walker, but I'm 278 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:04.720 not sure it was meant in the in the same manner in which you mean 279 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:11.160 it as as in a complimentary way. Yes, a useful, a useful 280 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.599 piece of equipment, that's right. But you know, we we do what 281 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.599 we can. But we love we look, we love this radio station. 282 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.039 We love the people to listen to this radio station, and that's what it's 283 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:26.519 all about. And if I get a chance to be on different day parts, 284 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:32.799 because we know that there are different people who listen at different times, 285 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.359 and so it's uh, I look at it as a as a benefit to 286 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.720 myself when I get to when I get to fill in for Cunningham, when 287 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.599 I get to, uh, you know, maybe do your Saturday morning show, 288 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:48.000 which i've I've I've done once or twice when I get if you know, 289 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:49.640 I don't know if the overnight slots ever going to come open again, 290 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:53.839 but when I did the overnight show for about five or six months, uh 291 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:59.000 that I had a great time doing that. So I appreciate all the different 292 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:03.440 listeners and all different times a day, and I feel like I'm starting to 293 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:08.039 develop a loyal following on Wednesdays and Thursday nights with the midweek crisis. I 294 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:12.400 think that that is deserved, and I think that your hard work and your 295 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:18.559 dedication towards that end have made that possible. So just a couple of things 296 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:25.240 I wanted to read to you, just a little bit of a commentary by 297 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:30.559 the great Dennis Prager from Praguer You okay, and he said the hamas slaughter 298 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:34.240 confirmed everything I have believed. He goes with one exception. Nothing about October 299 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:41.000 seventh surprised me. The one exception was Israel's unpreparedness that also surprised nearly every 300 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.720 Israeli. My guess is that a combination of Iranian technology and Israeli complacency and 301 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:51.240 incompetence led to the greatest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust. And he breaks 302 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.720 it down. He said, nothing else surprised me. Not the butchery, 303 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.160 not the sadism, not the jew hatred, not the theology that made the 304 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:03.400 slaughter possible, not even Glee and Gaza and among an untold number of Muslims 305 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.240 around the world, Nor the reactions in our universities, and not the support 306 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:11.319 of the left, not of liberals. He said. Since the seventies, 307 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.880 when he was a graduate student at the Middle East Institute of Columbia School of 308 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:21.759 International Affairs, I knew what the Middle East conflict was about, Muslim rejection 309 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.119 of a Jewish state in the middle of the Muslim world. He said. 310 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:29.039 It's it's easy to point out what's what the situation. He says, it's 311 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.759 not land. Has nothing to do with the land. He said, all 312 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:40.039 the all the people who were so called experts, usually having a sympathetic view 313 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.359 of the Arab world, they believed and taught that the issue was about land. 314 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.119 He said they were wrong. It was always about Muslim rejection of a 315 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:52.519 Jewish state in their midst and a religious desire to destroy it. And he 316 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.799 was talking about it, and he said, finally, think about these two 317 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.319 questions. If tomorrow Israel laid down it's arm and announced we will fight no 318 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.079 more, what would happen? And if the Arab countries around Israel laid down 319 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.240 their arms and answered, we will fight no more, what would happen? 320 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.359 And he goes, and I think he's right in this Dan. In the 321 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.799 first case, there would be an immediate destruction of the state of Israel and 322 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.839 the mass murder of its Jewish population in the second case. In the second 323 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.160 case, there would be peace the next day. If the Arabs laid down 324 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:27.519 their weapons and said we will fight no more, there would be peace in 325 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.759 the Middle East. And it's just that simple. People try and make it 326 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:36.160 more complex than it actually is. Your thoughts on any of that, well, 327 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:40.920 I have used that very explanation probably a half a dozen times since this 328 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:48.039 latest war began. This latest terrorist activity began on the seventh and it was 329 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:53.440 I heard Benjamin nettan Yahoo make a speech many years ago and he said that 330 00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:59.599 exact same thing. If Israel were to lay down its weapons, there would 331 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.319 be no more Israel. And he said, if our enemies were to lay 332 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:07.200 down their weapons, there would be peace. And it makes a complicated situation, 333 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.880 I think, very easy to understand. But going back to that commentary, 334 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:19.079 that is the main question is how was Israel caught so unawares when this 335 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:25.839 activity was taking place. There are reports out there that Egypt had an inkling 336 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:27.960 as to what was going to happen, that they may or may not have 337 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.480 given Israel heads up on this. It may not have been heated. But 338 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.000 to me, that's been one of the hardest things to get my head around 339 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:45.039 during this entire time, is because I have this sense that because their very 340 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.400 lives are on the line every single day, every day, they cannot afford 341 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:55.200 to be like Joe Biden and go to the beach after declaring How about Joe 342 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.559 Biden declaring himself a wartime president and then the first thing he does is he 343 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.200 goes in xon on the beach for two or three days, absolutely unbelievable. 344 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:04.880 But they can't do that, and is they can't go to the beach for 345 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.480 three or four days. They have to be vigilant twenty four to seven. 346 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:15.039 And how they got caught with their pants down on this particular occasion is probably 347 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.559 going to be a shameful chapter in their history when it comes to protecting the 348 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.440 people of Israel. Well, I mean, Joe's problem is that they don't 349 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.920 stock his favorite ice cream at the White House and he has to go to 350 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.400 Rehoboth Beach to get it. I guess I'm not sure. I don't know. 351 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.400 I mean, this guy, this guy and his foreorn. You know, 352 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.880 he was given that speech and then I heard his his former chief of 353 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:44.359 staff, Ron Klain, was on MSNBC talking about, Oh, what great 354 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.519 political savvy, what a great thing it is for Joe Biden to be the 355 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:52.160 commander in chief at a time like this. If it were not for Gary 356 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.279 Jeff the policies, the foreign policies of this president, he would not have 357 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:02.799 to have made that speech because this would have never have happened. Ukraine would 358 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.279 have never happened. You can't go around just ladling out money to friend and 359 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.279 foe alike and then think everyone's gonna sit back and be happy. You have 360 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.079 to cut them off, you have to stop them what they're doing. And 361 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:19.400 that all revolves around money. When you talk about dictators and despots and you 362 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.319 talk about terrorists, if they've got money, they're going to use that money 363 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:29.440 to do what they do. And that's what we saw with the horrific attacks 364 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.279 in Israel. The weakness and the lack of fores sight of Joe Biden goes 365 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:40.839 far beyond the dealings with Iran getting back into the nuclear deal, the unfrozen 366 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:45.279 six billion dollars an half it, and assets which looks like help help set 367 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.920 up this attack on October seventh, give the green light to it. All 368 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:56.960 of that is minuscule in comparison to what the Biden administration has done from day 369 00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:03.000 one, getting rid of our energy independent and propping up Iran's economy and their 370 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:08.920 oil industry. It's gone from what fifteen billion to eighty billion during the Biden 371 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:15.759 administration of Iran's oil profits, all because again of the policies that Joe Biden 372 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:25.920 is set in place, with this hysterical cult like adherence to the Green New 373 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:33.000 Deal and green technology and the false narrative that carbon emissions are killing the planet 374 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.079 and going to destroy us all, so we need renewable energy only, and 375 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:44.359 shifting away the focus on America's energy independence which we had before Biden to Iran 376 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:51.200 and to other people who produce it dirtier and more environmentally unsound than we do 377 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:56.240 in this country. Energy anyway, and he has made he alone has made 378 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:02.519 Iran a wealthy nation again when they were the brink of bankruptcy before he came 379 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.279 into office. Well, then, and you talk about the Green New Deal 380 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:11.400 and the Green Agenda, how much money does that funnel directly into China? 381 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.920 With China producing all the solar panels and all the windmills and all the rarer 382 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.279 minerals that you need for the car batteries and the bus batteries and all this 383 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.880 other stuff. So China is flush with cash right now. That comes from 384 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:30.920 where the United States and government subsidies to this solar power company and this windmill 385 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.559 company and all the rest of them. And Dan, now China's to engage 386 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.319 in whatever adventures they want to engage. Hey, Dan, And do you 387 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.119 know what they're doing with a lot of that money they're getting from us. 388 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.240 They're buying oil from all around the globe, from US, from Iran, 389 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:52.000 from our strategic reserve. China is buying oil to prop up the Green New 390 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:59.559 Deal so they can build more coal fired power plants in China, so they 391 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:05.000 can remain or get close to some kind of energy of independence themselves, while 392 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:09.359 we're stuck with their cheap solar panels and wind turbines that don't work when the 393 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:14.799 sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. Well, Gary Jeffery, if 394 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.400 you combine everything that we just talked about, if you combine that with what's 395 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.279 happening at the southern border, the number of illegals that continue to pour through 396 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:29.119 day after day after day, the number of individuals who are on the terror 397 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:34.279 watch list that have been caught at the border is probably only scratching the surface. 398 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.480 When you talk about the number of terrorists who have gotten through the border 399 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.519 and are now god knows where in the United States. Only God knows what 400 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:45.680 they're up to. We're in a world of trouble. We are in a 401 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:51.279 world of trouble under this administration. When you look at all these elements and 402 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.759 you and you connect all the dots and you see how it's all connected. 403 00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:00.680 And is it too much to look at the things and say that we are 404 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:06.359 in major, major, major trouble, and if we don't do something about 405 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.599 it quickly, it may already be too late. It may already be too 406 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:12.559 late. So those are the kind of things that I'll be talking about on 407 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.599 my next show. We're two weeks away from the final tally on election day, 408 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.279 and of course, one of the most contentious and contentious and hotly debated 409 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.680 issue in a long long time in Ohio's Issue one. And I just I 410 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.920 scratch my head when I look at some of the polling numbers that say that 411 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:36.720 Issue one is passing some sixty five percent or sixty nine percent of the vote 412 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:43.200 among those asked, And I just what I'm what I'm at a loss for 413 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:49.559 is are there that many people in the state of Ohio that like killing babies? 414 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.799 I mean, do they get certain glee out of it? Are they 415 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.920 profiting from it like the abortion industry is, or is it just a matter 416 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:02.039 of convenience? And they think that fifty years of Roe v. Wade federally 417 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.719 meant that it was okay to kill babies in certain circumstances. Like I said, 418 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:13.000 I'm just having a hard time getting my head wrapped around how many people 419 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.480 should could be in favor of killing babies in Ohio, and it appears to 420 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:22.119 be a majority right now. You know, Ohio's abortion law currently on the 421 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.920 books is twenty two weeks is the deadline. That's five and a half months. 422 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.280 If you can't make your decision in five and a half months as a 423 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.679 woman. The other lie, of course it's been propped up by the pro 424 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:40.000 issue one baby killers, is that a woman can't get any medical cares he 425 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:49.199 miscarries a total lie total total light total, lite com total lot. I 426 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.880 think those numbers that you talked about are more of a function of people not 427 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:58.840 bothering to get informed about this issue. I think there's a number of young 428 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:04.119 voters out there who just oh, yeah, let's let's not have the government 429 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.320 involved in these decisions. And I have to give the people who are for 430 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:14.400 voting yes on Issue one a lot of credit because look at the commercials that 431 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.239 they design. When you when you look at their television commercials, when you 432 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.840 hear their commercials on the radio, what do those commercials do they appeal to 433 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.159 to my conservative instincts, And you talk about, well, we don't want 434 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.199 the government involved in our medical decisions. Well, as a conservative, that 435 00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:36.840 is something that I am generally in agreement with. So if I hear that 436 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.360 and don't know that much about the issue, I may be inclined to vote 437 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.639 yes on Issue one. But when I you know, when I read the 438 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:50.360 language of the of the proposed amendment for the Ohio Constitution, and then you 439 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:54.920 see how deceptive it is and that that there's no it doesn't talk about adults, 440 00:35:55.119 --> 00:36:00.519 it doesn't talk about parental rights. It leaves those doors wide open for 441 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.719 an absolute free for all when it comes to boarding babies up to the moment 442 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:10.599 of person. Well, here here again is the point. I don't I 443 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:17.000 don't want the state telling me what to do in my personal life, except 444 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:23.559 when it when it directly affects another person's life. So I don't want state. 445 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.760 I don't want stint, sax and murder either. Dan, Well, 446 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.199 you know what's the state shouldn't tell me whether I can kill this guy or 447 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:35.119 not, because well, I've got my reasons, and he said bad things 448 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:40.199 about my wife, and and he always is letting his kid throw its ball 449 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.960 over the fence in my backyard. So I don't want the state telling me 450 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.239 that I can't take care of this problem because it's my problem in it. 451 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:52.239 No, No, it doesn't work like that, and it doesn't work like 452 00:36:52.280 --> 00:37:00.719 that with unborn humans either. Well that's again it's a function of the the 453 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.800 people who put this campaign together. Again, very clever, but very deceptive 454 00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:12.320 and untrue. And the notion that a woman is going to have to and 455 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:14.679 Gary, Jeff, I don't know if you know this or not, but 456 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.880 only women can have babies, So I know it's a controversial statement that a 457 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:22.840 woman would somehow not be able to get the care and the procedure is necessary 458 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:30.119 after a miscarriage. Is just is one of the most horrendous lies that I 459 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:36.239 can possibly think of when it comes to scaring people into voting for a particular 460 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.519 political agenda. Well, again, this is an agenda of death. And 461 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.159 that's what the other side needs to be pointing out to everyone they know. 462 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.960 Dan, two weeks, we'll see what happens. Early voting is on in 463 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:55.119 Ohio right now as we speak, Dan Carroll, the midweek crisis tomorrow night 464 00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:01.639 nine to midnight, any idea what you've got planned? A lot more of 465 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:07.159 what we just talked about. I'll probably have on some guests talking about issue 466 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.599 one and and some other good stuff as well. You know, the First 467 00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.880 Amendment continues to be under attack as well, and I've got some some items 468 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:22.039 on that. And then Mitt Romney, Mit Mitt Romney, the man who 469 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:28.679 had who had Barack Obama on the ropes and couldn't close the deal, admitted 470 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:34.320 that that he voted to impeach Donald Trump and had no idea what he was 471 00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:39.119 talking about. One of the Dan Caroll, Absolute surprise, Dan Carol, 472 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:44.199 thank you very much. Midweek crisis tomorrow right here, starting at nine pm. 473 00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:45.960 We got more show to go, and we'll take a break and come 474 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:52.519 on back with it. Seven d W l W busted my budding and when 475 00:38:52.599 --> 00:39:00.760 I got back, Daddy Thinker's Mom, Grandpa Quick Brand, multiple easy Cumps, 476 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:08.480 Smell Candy corn and candy Cornious sucks. Hand keep your hands off our 477 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:14.320 candy. We're the ones who slept it door to door and the last thing 478 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:19.239 we want is to be left with a sack of candy corn A holiday reminder 479 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:25.440 from seven hundred candy Cornious sucks. Now you can relive the greatest moments from 480 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:34.480 our twenty twenty three iHeartRadio Music Festival streaming on into another hour of this nightcap 481 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.320 for Tuesday Night, October twenty four, twenty twenty three, Gary Jeff Walker 482 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:43.039 Land to fire up the fur ball, who's usually fired up anyway, but 483 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.320 sometimes you've gotta do a little fluffing around the edges just to get him going 484 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:52.079 a little bit. And I don't try and purposely do this. It's just 485 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.039 more fun when he gets a little fired up. Oh it is? It 486 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.320 a little bit more fun one it gets and they fired up. Yeah, 487 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.280 I'd ma laid dormant today, and see how you like that. You're going 488 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.159 to be laid back, Lenny. You gonna be laid back. I'm not 489 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:08.639 gonna do that. I do have a question to run by you, because 490 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.960 you know you like the wizard of ours. You're the guy behind the curtain. 491 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.280 You have all the answers. Okay, are you ready? And I'm 492 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.719 not here to toot my horn. I'm just telling you basically what I did 493 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.840 and the results of what I did. I wrote an opinion piece for the 494 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.840 Citsani Inquirer which appeared in Sunday's paper. It was about believe it or not, 495 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:34.079 the vaccine and Travis Kelsey, who basically is now doing commercials for Pfiser, 496 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.440 all right, and he's basically going on with his mom Donna, saying 497 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.000 that, you know, people should take the flu shot and the COVID booster 498 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.280 shot. That's what he's saying, all right. That's probably getting paid fairly 499 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:49.920 decent money from Pizon to shoes. Perhaps, I don't know, we both 500 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.880 don't know, but he's getting good money. I'm sure Aaron Rodgers, the 501 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.400 quarterback, the lame quarterback for New York Jets, is calling a mister Pfizer 502 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:01.719 and basically, you know, poking fun at him at Travis because you know, 503 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.559 Aaron Rodgers was certainly against the vaccine, and that's his prerogative. You 504 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:07.639 know, your body, your choice, do what you want to do. 505 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.519 And really and truly, my whole thing is this. After I wrote that 506 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:19.360 article, I've had seventy plus comments, mostly negative towards me, and it 507 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.400 was just my opinion and it didn't say anything at all in the world about 508 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:27.800 me taking the vaccine or not. I'm just saying hooray for Travis Kelsey, 509 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.840 who stuck his head up above water to basically stay this and do this. 510 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.960 Yeah, I get it. He's getting paid. And here's the bottom line. 511 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.159 Here's the question of the day. Do we as consumers, do we 512 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:43.039 as the public at large? Do we trust or believe or should we believe 513 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.000 that what athletes say and do? What do I mean by that? For 514 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:50.800 years, athletes have hawk products. Way back in the day, the great 515 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.960 Ted Williams was stilling commercials for cigarettes and after that if you remember those comical 516 00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:00.400 Miller Lite commercials, remember those ye, the athletes Mark Thromberry, they were 517 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.599 great. Okay? Does that make you want to drink middle life even more 518 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:06.480 so? Because they do it? Do you want to smoke cigarettes more because 519 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.480 Ted Williams did it? Now? Are you not going to take the vaccine 520 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:14.159 because Aaron Rodgers says no? Or should you because Travis Kelsey says yes? 521 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.800 I leave that in your lab. Are athletes to end all for what people 522 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:22.440 should do in life? Well? If they are, those people have very 523 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:29.039 very sad pathetic lives, thank you, you know what. And I have 524 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:36.360 never used a product because a celebrity or an athlete that I admired endorsed that 525 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.519 product. You got it from the You got it right from the beginning. 526 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:44.519 It's all about the Benjamins, It's all about the green Buddy it's all about 527 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:49.000 that cash. And I guarantee you, although you don't know and I don't 528 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.559 know, this is the specifics of the monetary contract with Travis Kelcey. He 529 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:58.159 got paid big bucks. The only reason they're pushing this stupid vaccine still, 530 00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.960 Andy, is because they have to generate this big money for all of the 531 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:07.599 money they spend in research and in advertising to push it. They've got a 532 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:13.159 lot of vaccine on the shelves and there it's it's not flying off the shelves 533 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:17.840 like it was back when people thought it was going to be mandated. Right, 534 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.079 So co marketing geniuses or involved Pfizer or the vaccine in general, believe 535 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.119 that an athlete could help them push it. Correct. I mean, you 536 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.039 know, Joe Blow is not going to do it, but an athlete they 537 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.039 think could push it. And I just don't think. I think most people 538 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.480 think the way you do, and I do that. I have never gone 539 00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.639 out of my way to buy a car cigarette. I don't smoke cigarettes or 540 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.000 anything else in the world beer because an athlete has done it, Andy, 541 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:47.440 I think that probably are people that do. Andy, You're forgetting that while 542 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:54.440 we are making complete sense, Well, we are grounded enough and have enough 543 00:43:54.440 --> 00:44:00.440 of information system and belief system to make our choices with what we know or 544 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:07.320 what we think we know. We are surrounded by a lot of really stupid 545 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.079 people in this country. You know that. Yeah, But I'm being hypocritical 546 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:15.840 by even bringing this topic up because you, as well as your peers at 547 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:19.760 the Big One seven hundred wow, while behind the microphone on a daily basis, 548 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.719 hawking products hoping to general public will purchase those products, be it cars, 549 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.320 be it MGM, gambling in the casino, or anything else. Right, 550 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.880 So it's the same thing I said, and it is exactly the same 551 00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.559 thing. But I feel like I'm not a hypocrite. I feel that I 552 00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.840 can be totally free with my response to this particular conversation because I do not 553 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:47.480 have an endorsement deal, right and the people like anybody else. In fact, 554 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:52.920 I think I'm the only on air personality who may not have a gambling 555 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.519 deal, you know, where where I'm endorsing a gambling site or whatever. 556 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.719 I don't have any endorsement deals, so there are no strings attached to me, 557 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.280 my brother, and I'll tell you right now, if in fact I 558 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.199 was full time as I once was at the Big One, I don't think 559 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:14.440 I would hawk a gambling deal simply because I don't gamble. You know, 560 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.760 how can I go on behind the microphone tell people to please take your heart, 561 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:22.800 earn cash and money and go to X, Y or Z and gamble. 562 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.039 Maybe I'm stupid, Maybe I'm old schools. Maybe it's foolish. I 563 00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.679 am my populas. I'm turning away potential money and revenue. But I just 564 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.000 wouldn't do it. Some people are just very easily influenced dandy. In fact, 565 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.599 maybe it's a majority, and some people are just plain stupid, as 566 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.960 I pointed out a few moments ago, and that's why endorsement deals work. 567 00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:49.239 I'm sure there is power in the voice of seven hundred WLW or in certain 568 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:53.239 personalities who have big audiences and are very popular. I understand that. And 569 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:59.239 some people just like to be close to those people they emulate on the radio 570 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.119 or on tea or they see on the football field. They want to feel 571 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:06.440 close to them. And so, yeah, it does. It has some 572 00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.960 resonance. It rings true for some of those people, just not me. 573 00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.480 And let's go back to that Travis Kelsey situation. Now that Travis Kelcey is 574 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:21.280 on almost every other commercial on television when I watch TV after the football games 575 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.840 as well. I mean, we can honestly say that I believe that he 576 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:30.239 probably more so than Patrick Mahomes his teammates Pat Travis Kelsey isn't about the face 577 00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:36.440 of the NFL. He is. Yeah, I mean I don't mind he 578 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.320 No, I don't. I mean, I don't mind that he's the face 579 00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:43.320 of the NFL. If that's what you think, I tell you what though, 580 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:49.320 Taylor Swift's appearance in the booth there while Travis is playing, and she 581 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:53.440 was back at the game this Sunday in Kansas City. Her appearance has certainly 582 00:46:53.519 --> 00:47:00.159 spiked the sale of his jerseys since she's been hanging around. So that's what's 583 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:05.599 a celebrity endorsement of sorts, is it not? And it's working right well. 584 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.199 I mean, look, there are people that don't need to be told 585 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:14.199 to buy any certain Niners. But if you remember when Taylor Swift came to 586 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.679 Cincinnati for a concert, I would think that any woman from the age of 587 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.039 twelve, maybe up to thirty five or forty was wearing some sort of Taylor 588 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:28.079 Swift garb, some sort of sweaterd jersey, skirt, whatever it may be 589 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.360 from Taylor Swift and she probably didn't have to hawk that, but they just 590 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:35.679 wanted to wear it anyway. Right, it's no different in Beatlemania. It's 591 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:43.639 no different than any other uh fad phenomenon, uh you know, some kind 592 00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.960 of I remember Elvis watching The Mickey Mouse Club and I wore a Davy krockt 593 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:52.800 hat I had a Davy krockt hat I remember that? So did you have 594 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.639 the Mickey mouseiars you had the Mickey Mouse hears? I know you did, 595 00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.440 you did, admit it. I remember watching the Club. I don't know 596 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:06.760 if that I ever had the ears, although that's good. Although as a 597 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.159 two year old I did have a crush on a net funeral cello food of 598 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:15.039 cello, but I was I was only you know, months out of breastfeeding 599 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.039 at that point, so maybe that's why. Well, I hear what you're 600 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.559 saying. You know what, Today is the twenty fourth of October. It's 601 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.719 the fourth I know. But back in nineteen seventy two, on this date 602 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:30.239 is the day that Jackie Robinson passed away. No kidding, yes, yes, 603 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.760 I follow that because these are like I'm not going to say my heroes. 604 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.400 These are the guys that not even that I emulate. I study. 605 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.320 Let's put it that way. I study. I enjoy reading and talking and 606 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.239 kind of seeing things about them. And as with old Rachel, with old 607 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.000 Rachel right now, she's one hundred and one, So Rachel is still with 608 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.000 us. Yes, he's one hundred and one. Can you believe it? 609 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.679 God bless her. That's that's amazing. Now booked on the radio several times. 610 00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:01.039 You know, Rachel a wonderful woman. Really well. Robinson Foundations talk 611 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.039 to a lot of people on the radio sometimes. No, the great number 612 00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:10.320 forty seven, it's not that you necessarily, it's not necessarily. Yeah, 613 00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.360 forty seven is when he came up. Number forty two. I'm sorry, 614 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:20.719 but here's here's the thing. I don't think that you have to really have 615 00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:27.199 hero worship or be crazed about somebody that's that trailblazing or that that amazing in 616 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.800 it. The story is so amazing you can't help but study it and admire 617 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:35.199 the person. I think, right, don't you know that A great point? 618 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.360 Yeah, you know, as much as I love sports and follow sports 619 00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:42.599 and it's been such a big part of my life, I can't say I 620 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.320 hero worship. However, I will tell you this much. There are two 621 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:51.920 or three athletes that I was in awe of meeting and talking to. That's 622 00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.400 that's all I gotta say. Really, And you know one of them was 623 00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.320 Pete Rose was Sure, which I ended up in a Philly good friend ship 624 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.559 with him when I worked at the racetrack and then I got into radio, 625 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.239 so I'd have to say he was one of them. You had a fairly 626 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.440 good relationship when you worked at the racetrack with Pete? Is that if you 627 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.559 know? Remember I came to town. I was the pr director of old 628 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:19.559 Antronia Racecourse and Pete used to kind of frequent that place almost on a nightly 629 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:28.119 basis during the week. Odd that you would see me, Dick Andy, 630 00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.199 what's wrong with that? And who was? Who was the other athlete that 631 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.199 you admire or you? Well? I mean that taught me I had I 632 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.760 talked to It is a funny story. One of my first sponsors ever was 633 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:42.079 a good friend but named Ron Jurgens. He had a company called Stacey Storage 634 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.519 and Movie which is no longer in existence, and he used to go fishing 635 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.679 with Ted Williams all the time. To late Ted Williams and one Sunday morning 636 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.159 when I was doing Sunday Morning Sports talk with my buddy Tom Dinkle. We 637 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.519 started way back when he was fishing with Ted Williams and called us up and 638 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.719 we had Ted Williams on the phone. So that was huge. And uh, 639 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.920 and I have to say Serena Williams, you know she when she came 640 00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:06.480 here for the Western and Southern Tennis, she was on the phone me one 641 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.760 time. So those are three o the big names. You know. Bob 642 00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:14.199 Knight, you know, as big as he was, I was maybe intimidated 643 00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:15.719 somewhat because he gave me the ground rules. He says, Okay, Andy, 644 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.800 I'll go on with you, but here's the deal. A half hour, 645 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.599 no commercials, no phone calls. That was Bob Knight's deal. And 646 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.400 that's what we did every year. But other than that, you know, 647 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.440 not many others. You know, Phil Belichick has been big. Just to 648 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.199 get him Almos a big deal, I know, But I mean, was 649 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:38.119 he any more elaborative than he is at this press conferences after games? I 650 00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.559 mean no, I mean that that's the funny thing. The name is big, 651 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:44.360 but when you talk to him and you hang up and say, wait 652 00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:46.880 a minute, I mean, really, he didn't say anything, you know 653 00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:51.119 that. I mean, Pete was great, Peter, talk about anything at 654 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:52.760 any time. Just just keep on going. You can go to the bathroom, 655 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:58.519 take a shaved shower, and you know what else. I've interviewed Pete, 656 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:07.800 Marty front of Marty No. So uh So you're you're talking to You're 657 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.320 talking to Pete Rose, talking to Serena Williams, You're talking to Rachel Robinson, 658 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.639 the widow of Jackie Robinson. You're talking to all these people that you 659 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:21.039 have a great deal of admiration or maybe awe of. And that's all understandable. 660 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:25.239 I mean, those are those are singular kind of individuals. Those are 661 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.880 people that you don't run into in your everyday walk of life, even if 662 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:32.719 you're in this business. So I I and I get that, and I 663 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.519 understand why you would be kind of little whoa man. This was bigger than 664 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.159 I expected, bigger than me, and and was I big enough for the 665 00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.519 moment in dealing with these people? I understand that. Yeah. Part part 666 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:49.440 of the situation, also, I think you could relate to this is that 667 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:53.079 when you talk to an athlete who has basically made it on that big stage, 668 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:57.480 and it is somewhat older than you, a veteran in their field, 669 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.920 and it's great in their field, and you on your way up when you're 670 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.280 young. The fact the age difference is the fact that now that you're older 671 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.159 and most of the guys I talk to really are younger than me. You 672 00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.280 know, it's different. It really is a lot different. Don't you agree 673 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:14.960 with that? Oh? Yeah, As an older person, I really couldn't 674 00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:21.159 give an iota less what Travis Kelcey decides to put into his body for money. 675 00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.719 You're absolutely correct. I wanted to ask you one I wanted to ask 676 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:29.199 you one thing about next Sunday's Bengals game. Do you think do you think 677 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.239 that Zach Taylor and the Bengals, not the players, but the coaching staff 678 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:38.239 and the people in the organization are kind of looking at next Sunday's game in 679 00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:44.559 San Francisco against the forty nine ers after they've just dropped two games in you 680 00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:47.519 know, close fashion, Are they going, Oh crap? We couldn't have 681 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.880 picked the worst time to play San Francisco because it seems to me, like, 682 00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.280 man, the Bengals could go out to the West Coast and really get 683 00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:59.800 swamped after the bye, especially after what San Francisco has been through the last 684 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.920 in the last two games. No, I think you're entirely wrong, and 685 00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.119 I'll tell you why, because you know the fact that they did drop two 686 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:12.039 in a row. A the team has lost confidence, the more so than 687 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.880 that the team is injured. I mean, mccaffery's heard he's not playing one 688 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:20.400 hundred percent. Deebo Samuel, he's out. I mean, and right now 689 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:24.039 this Rock Party obviously has lost somewhat of his confidence. There's no doubt in 690 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:27.519 my mind, has lost his confidence. Can't throw the deep ball. I 691 00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.320 think everybody knew that when he was drafted, and that was the scattery pron 692 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.800 this guy. So I think the Bengals are probably looking at chops, really 693 00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:37.800 are I mean, they got a healthy Joe Borrow who rested this week. 694 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.719 I think it's wonderful, I really do. The forty nine ers have a 695 00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:45.159 well coached team. Kyle Shannon and has done a great job out there. 696 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:49.039 Brock Purty has proven that he can stand up, and I just think they're 697 00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.559 more like the wounded animal than the animal that's lost. They very well bit, 698 00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:55.519 but they don't have the talent to combat it. I mean, I 699 00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:00.320 think that you know when brock Party was throwing those interceptions they have night. 700 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.480 He's probably looking in the back. They'll say, where's Depot, where's McCafferty, 701 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:06.840 I mean, and they're not there. These are the guys that bail 702 00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:08.480 him out, and they're out there to bail him out. I think it's 703 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:13.199 great for the Bangers, although I will say this much as a proven football 704 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.199 fan, I'd like to see teams beat other teams that I root for at 705 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:21.280 full strength. It's like going to a Broadway show and seeing the beatcast. 706 00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.559 It's like the the the understudies. You know, I don't want to see 707 00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:27.400 that. I want to see the main performers. Maybe I'm crazy, you 708 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.119 know, if I'm a season ticket holder, I don't want to see backups. 709 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:32.440 I want to see the main guys we want to do. You know, 710 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.840 look, let me run this by you. Kyle Shanahan has done a 711 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.679 great job. He's a he's an offensive mastermind. But he's got the personnel. 712 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:44.880 You'll put Kyle shan in Shanahan in Carolina and see what he does. 713 00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:46.880 See if he turns that team around. I don't think so. And our 714 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.920 coach is as good as his personnel and proof of the pudding is Bill Belichick, 715 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.000 but and I love Belichick, He's my guy. But no Tom Brady, 716 00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.599 He's been subbed five hundred since that time. You gotta have to personnel 717 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:05.239 now excellent. I mean, and a great coach can lose with bad talent, 718 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:09.159 and a bad coach can win with great talent. But there's not a 719 00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:14.239 lot of terrible coaches in the league. There are some teams that don't quite 720 00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:19.360 have the roster to compete with others. So we'll see what happens. Fur 721 00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.159 Ball. You've you've kind of been laid back Lenny tonight. But it was 722 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:27.039 good. We had a good conversation about what I have no idea, but 723 00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.599 we we listen to it again, listen to it on the podcast. Yeah, 724 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.320 I hope they hope they actually post the podcast of this show for a 725 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.280 change. They better, they better. I think it's something else. Before 726 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:42.440 we leave, I'm thinking of calling seven hundred WW management for this segment. 727 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:44.880 I want to go out and sell it and make a little cash. How's 728 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.239 that Because if Travis Kelsey can make some cash getting needles in his jaded on 729 00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.119 there, I can make a little money talking to you. So I'm gonna 730 00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:58.000 be doing that I'm sponsor, and you do whatever you feel like you need 731 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.679 to do. Just leave me out of it. Thank you. The fur 732 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:07.880 Ball on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. It's really pretty simple. The 733 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:13.119 rain helps the grass sprout from the earth. The quiet deer lowers its head 734 00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.599 and eats the grass. Then I shoot the deer, dead, skin it, 735 00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:22.880 cook it, and ate it. While listening to Bill Cunningham, I 736 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:28.880 think they call that the circle of life. Damn good jerky, Bill Cunningham 737 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:36.199 tomorrow at twelve noon on seven hundred WLW. In this week's Marketers Report, 738 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:40.760 Dana Nusbottom, Executive vice President, it's time for some tech talk or it 739 00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:46.880 guy from Intrust to you. Dave Hatter joining us once again on the Nightcap 740 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:52.440 on seven hundred WLW. Good evening, Dave, Hey, Garret, Jeff, 741 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.599 always my pleasure to be on. Appreciate the ft. You try to 742 00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:01.360 raise awareness about these crazy issues. We're all facing them. The metaverse swallowing 743 00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:08.119 us AI like like our bad intelligence wasn't enough. Now we're going to get 744 00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:20.840 bad intelligence from machines like predictive policing. It's software software that somehow can predict 745 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.400 crimes, only it really can't what do you know about this, Dave. 746 00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:28.719 Yeah, so Wire did a big story on this, and they're not the 747 00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:31.519 first ones to cover this, you know. And it's reminiscent of the movie 748 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:36.719 and Minority Report if you've seen it, where you know they predict where crime 749 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:38.599 will be. And you know, my concern with all of this technology here, 750 00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:42.920 Kiff, We've talked about so much of this stuff before. I don't 751 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.519 recall this particular issue, but it's all Most of my concerns are all related 752 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:51.119 as a guy who's spent twenty five years writing software. Now, I wasn't 753 00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.920 working on software like this, wasn't doing artificial intelligence. But you know I 754 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:57.599 could tell you, I mean a human being, I make mistakes like every 755 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.960 other human being. I mean I treated hundreds or of thousands of bugs over 756 00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:05.079 twenty five years in creating software. So you know, even with the best 757 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.280 of intention, it's impossible to write software of any complexity without bugs in it. 758 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:15.559 And then you throw in the artificial intelligence angle, large large language models, 759 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.320 you know, statistics, probability, all the stuff that makes this work, 760 00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.760 and the idea that you're going to be able to build a system that 761 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:27.400 can predict crime. To me, it's just fanciful at best, because you're 762 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:31.480 still in a place where a there can be inherent biases in the software algorithms, 763 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.559 you know, the rules the programming that make these decisions, and then 764 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:37.440 be the data that you train it with, right, garbage in, garbage 765 00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:42.000 out, that the old maxim is still true. So I wasn't at all 766 00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.280 surprised to see when they did this study, they took a look at one 767 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.960 particular police department that bought some software from a company called Geoltica, and they 768 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.320 found that it was accurate less than one percent of the time. Now think 769 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:58.239 about that for a second, less than one percent of the time. You 770 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.559 know, you'd probably better off just to you know, throw darts at a 771 01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:07.840 board, and you'd probably come up with a higher probability rate of accuracy than 772 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:10.480 one percent. I mean, it's really almost insane. Well, well, 773 01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:16.119 I mean a human dave, a human detective who has any experience at all 774 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:21.199 is going to be right. Probably I'm going to give them the benefit of 775 01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:25.719 doubt seventy five eighty percent of the time. So I think it'd be a 776 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.239 lot more than one percent. No, no question, that would be better 777 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:31.760 than this. Yes, that would be better than this, Because they didn't 778 01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:35.199 even get to one percent. You know, I think you're just said, 779 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:42.440 your gut hunch is way better than what this pretictive software has demonstrated it can 780 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:46.000 do, and it doesn't surprise me. But I agree. And you know, 781 01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:50.960 the downside of this too is you know, the waste of resources, 782 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:52.960 the possible bias, and the people that are going after I mean, it's 783 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:57.320 not just they spent money on said that that doesn't work, which isn't all 784 01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:01.960 that uncommon in the government oriented space, but you know, there's a lot 785 01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:07.360 of potential downsides to using a tool like this that's making predictions that are obviously 786 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:15.119 inherently wrong. Well, think about the algorithm algorithms that we all found out 787 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:22.320 about with Facebook, which was kicking people off making arbitrary decisions about their content 788 01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:27.440 because it was built into the algorithm to do so. They could do the 789 01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:34.679 same thing with predictive policing software, so they could they could predict and possibly 790 01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:43.039 arrest someone for a crime strictly based on their social score or their politics. 791 01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:47.960 You know that. Yeah, that's certainly within the realm of possibility for sure. 792 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:53.719 All Right, Dave Hatter, what are the three biggest social media scams 793 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.679 operating right now for people to watch out for. Well, I'm sure none 794 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.639 of these will come as a surprise to anyone, but this is based on 795 01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:07.840 information from the Federal Trade Commission or the FTC. And you know, I 796 01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.719 would just remind folks that when you think this can never happen to you, 797 01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.280 you know, even if you don't use social media, keep in mind that's 798 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:19.159 just one of the many channels the bad guys have to get at you. 799 01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.800 Now, whether it's email, which people obviously use for work and for personal 800 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:27.960 purposes, it's text, it's social media. They're going to go wherever there 801 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.039 are people, right And one of the reasons why social media is a good 802 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:35.840 venue for this good medium to reach people, besides the fact that there's a 803 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:39.039 lot of people using it, is because sadly, most people don't follow basic 804 01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:43.960 security practices. It's easy to take over their accounts. I would bet you 805 01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.199 right now there's someone listening who's either had their account taken over or knows someone 806 01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.719 that has. I know many people personally, including businesses, that have had 807 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:55.679 their pages taken over because they have you know, let's just say, less 808 01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:00.280 than good passwords, and they don't use multi factor authentication. You know that 809 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:05.360 gives the bad guys that additional level of authenticity if they can briefly take over 810 01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.519 someone's account. So it doesn't surprise me a bit because you're seeing a lot 811 01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:12.679 of crime there. The numbers are pretty staggering there. So again this is 812 01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:16.480 coming directly from the Federal Trade Commission. Americans lost two point seven billion dollars. 813 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:21.280 We're at billion with a d not million. Two point seven billion dollars 814 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.519 and they're saying that, you know, over the timeframe of January twenty twenty 815 01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:30.000 three to June twenty twenty three, so the first six months of this year, 816 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:36.480 just in that time frame alone, the numbers again huge in the hundreds 817 01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:37.760 of millions, depending on which type of scam you look at, and they 818 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:44.079 basically the main ones followed THET three buckets. You've got fraudulent online shopping. 819 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.039 You know, you think you're buying something from a reputable person and then you 820 01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:50.519 never get it or something like that, right, And that's where the least 821 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.639 dollar amounts come in in terms of the scams, but the volume is much 822 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.960 higher. You got to take investment opportunities and keep in mind, anything that's 823 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:01.880 online is easily boofed. Right, I can paint any picture I want through 824 01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.480 social media and fake websites and so forth to make you believe I'm some sort 825 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:09.679 of wizard and investing, and you know, that's where people are losing the 826 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.320 biggest amounts of money on average. And then romance scams, you know, 827 01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:16.159 which you know obviously aren't new, and none of these things are really new, 828 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:20.719 except maybe the online shopping is relatively new, but romance scams. Again, 829 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:25.679 I just remind folks, it's very easy to go online, steal someone's 830 01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:29.880 profile or you know, copy everything off of someone's profile and set up a 831 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.119 fake profile so you look like a real person and have a lot of information 832 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:38.480 so that you can talk intelligence like that person, paint a picture, and 833 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:41.360 then you know they eventually they get to why I'm going to need some money? 834 01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:44.760 Right, So I would tell you if you're you doing any sort of 835 01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:48.079 romantic activities online, as soon as someone starts talking about money and asking about 836 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:51.079 money, you're getting scammed. Right, And that's not just my opinion. 837 01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:56.119 The FTC, the FBI and others are warning about these kinds of things. 838 01:04:56.199 --> 01:05:00.440 So sadly, you know, it's it's a giant for the bad guys to 839 01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:04.320 operate in and get to people who unfortunate are losing lots of money there, 840 01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:06.480 Jess, if they're not careful. Well, I mean, you know, 841 01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:13.519 especially for people maybe in my age bracket or older. If you're online looking 842 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:18.599 for love, maybe you should just satisfy yourself by watching the Golden Bachelor. 843 01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:24.000 But even for me, even for me, you know, I told my 844 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.039 wife, I said, if I wanted to watch old people in love, 845 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:31.400 I just set up cameras around the house. Yeah. I'm kind of in 846 01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:35.760 the same boat as you, you know. So the other thing it kind 847 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:45.000 of related to this was you're talking about people using your heartstrings, tugging at 848 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:48.400 them to get money from you off of the web and these social media sites. 849 01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:55.239 Scammers use AI to bag New York City parents for fifteen thousand dollars by 850 01:05:55.480 --> 01:06:00.360 mimicking their child's voice. You and I have talked over and over again about 851 01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:05.239 this ability with just a few seconds of audio to be able to mimic someone's 852 01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:10.320 voice. Now the deep fakes have gotten even deeper. What do you know 853 01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:15.880 about this story, Dave? Yeah, I can't stress enough how concerned I 854 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.719 am about this whole idea of deep fake voice cloning. So when you hear 855 01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:24.079 people talk about AI and deep sakes. You might also hear the term synthetic 856 01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:27.840 media, which is kind of a catch all term for any sort of content 857 01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.840 generated by an AI platform. Could be photos, could be video, could 858 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:35.480 be audio. These things are all easy to do and readily available, and 859 01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:40.800 I really I'm not exaggerating. I encourage people to go see it for themselves. 860 01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:43.079 You can go do a search. I wouldn't use Google, you know, 861 01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.760 I'm not a fan. I'd use start page or dot goo or something. 862 01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:48.480 But just do a search for voice cloning. You will find websites that 863 01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:54.440 you can go to and with no previous knowledge, no previous skill, and 864 01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.679 no cost, record a voice or if you have access to a voice, 865 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:00.159 and I'll come back to that in a set, I can upload it, 866 01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:05.239 train their model, and I would guarantee you that with just a little patient, 867 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:09.159 in less than an hour, you will be able to clone someone's voice 868 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:11.760 for free. It will literally cost you nothing to do this. I've done 869 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.760 it. I know for a fact. This is the state of things right 870 01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.280 now. So when people say, well, how would they get my audio? 871 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.679 Well, my immediate response is, do you have a voicemail? If 872 01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:27.800 I call your personal phone or your work phone. Do you have a greeting 873 01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:32.320 on your voicemail? If the answer is yes, I can simply record that 874 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:36.719 and within a few minutes I will be you. Now, you know, 875 01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:41.199 the quality of these things vary. These three things aren't going to be as 876 01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:44.840 good as something that's in a government lab somewhere. But you know the New 877 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.639 York Post and the story that you mentioned, and this fifteen thousand dollars scam, 878 01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.760 you know they're hitting you at it with multiple angles. It's not just 879 01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:56.400 the fact that they've cloned you a loved one's voice. They're catching you off 880 01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.880 guard with a social engineering angle too. Right when you get the call, 881 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.159 they're distraught, they're crying, they're screaming, they're in trouble. They need 882 01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:05.960 money right now. In many cases, they'll be working with a second scammer 883 01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:09.880 who's going to get on the phone and claim to be you know, Joe 884 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:14.199 Doakes from the Hamilton County Sheriff's office, or you know Sally Smith from the 885 01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.840 FBI or whatever. They're social engineering you at the same time, they're playing 886 01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:21.199 a voice that, in most cases, and especially if you don't know that 887 01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:26.760 this is a thing, is going to sound with no effort whatsoever. At 888 01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.680 least eighty percent could. So you catch someone in the middle of the night, 889 01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:33.279 they're sleepy, they're not expecting this, they don't know about this. 890 01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:38.479 It sounds very realistic. Sadly, you know, again this isn't my opinion. 891 01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:42.079 This has now been in the news many times. And this grandparents scam 892 01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:44.520 where they call, you know, at your grandson, Jim, I'm in 893 01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:46.560 jail or whatever. That's been going on for a long time. But now 894 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:50.239 you start this voice cloning angle. And I would remind folks again this could 895 01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:55.680 be a voicemail from your boss authorizing the transfer of funds or asking you to 896 01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:59.920 buy gift cards. That it could be literally anything. And that's why I'm 897 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.880 so concerned about this. I think we're going to see an enormous amount of 898 01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:06.359 fraud, not just these consumer oriented scams where you get the grandparents call, 899 01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:12.319 but you know scams where the director of the bank calls and tells the CFO 900 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:17.600 to make a transfer something. It's so critical that people realize how easy this 901 01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:21.159 is to do right now, with no previous knowledge, no previous skill, 902 01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:27.000 and at no cost to the perpetrators using this stuff. It's out there and 903 01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:30.199 easily done. Unfortunately, thankfully this woman didn't get scammed. You know, 904 01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.920 she kind of came up at the last minute realized wait, something's not right. 905 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:36.880 And of course the tips to avoid this Gary Jeffault, you know, 906 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.960 a be aware that this could be a thing, be reach out to that 907 01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:44.680 person. And I think the best advice I've heard so far is to have 908 01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:49.239 some kind of passphrase, code phrase, code word amongst your family, right, 909 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:53.640 so that if you get one of these calls, it's something that only 910 01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:57.840 your inner circle would know. You ask the question, and you know, 911 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.720 if they can't answer the question, well then you're at ninety nine point nine 912 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:05.079 nine nine percent scam. Right. So if you again are aware of this, 913 01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:10.000 you inform your family, you create some sort of secretive passphrase. That 914 01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:12.880 would be probably the best way to make sure this doesn't happen to you. 915 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:17.520 Freedom on the Net report highlights dangers of AI. It says internet freedom declining 916 01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:23.800 around the world fueled by advances in artificial intelligence, and according to Freedom Houses 917 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:28.760 new report Freedom on the Net twenty twenty three, governments are using automated systems 918 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:32.920 to ramp up online censorship, while distributors of disinformation are using AI tools to 919 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:38.279 fabricate images, audio, and text. So how does that limit your and 920 01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:43.359 my freedom on the net. Well, on the one hand, and it's 921 01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:46.600 interesting. I love the title of their report, the Repressive Power of Artificial 922 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:49.119 Intelligence, and I would encourage people. I mean, you can go find 923 01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:51.840 that on your own, you know, take a look at it. But 924 01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:56.640 you know, on the one hand, as we just discussed, this technology 925 01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:01.159 makes it very simple and very easy and very in extent or free for you 926 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:06.319 know, bad actors to generate content, whether it's text, whether it's audio, 927 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:12.840 or it's video, whether it's photos. You can easily generate texts or 928 01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:15.640 generate content synthetic media. And you know, that makes it easy for the 929 01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:19.640 bad guys to ramp up whatever they're doing. It also creates really high quality 930 01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:24.760 stuff in those cases, especially texts. So the old tells of oh I 931 01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.600 got this email and it's fishing because the grammar's bad and the punctuation is bad 932 01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.279 and it doesn't make sense. Those days are over because I can use these 933 01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:34.560 tools, even if I don't speak English, to generate content that is extremely 934 01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:38.960 high quality. So you know, the one point they're making is the bad 935 01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:44.680 actors can use these tools to spread this information and misinformation very quickly using things 936 01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:47.279 like social media and apps like signal, Telegram, et cetera. Again, 937 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:50.399 you know, all of this stuff cuts both ways, right Gary Jeff. 938 01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:55.640 You get amazing convenience, you get amazing reach, you can do all this 939 01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:59.199 cool stuff, But on the other hand, you now have this giant platform 940 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:02.119 to spread things very quickly. And that's always one of my concerns on the 941 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.479 negative side of this stuff is you know, there's no one out there that 942 01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:10.640 I'm aware of it's created a tool that can say this is synthetic media. 943 01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:12.960 At this point, there are people working on it, but no one has 944 01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:16.119 perfected that. And you know, the technology that creates this stuff generally is 945 01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:19.239 one step ahead of anything that's going to debunk it. But then the flip 946 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:21.840 side of that is, and you already touched on this before, whether it's 947 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:25.960 Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, et cetera. You know, they're trying to 948 01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:31.319 use this technology to tamp down quote disinformation and misinformation unquote, and you know, 949 01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:35.119 depending on where you're at and the laws of that country. The report 950 01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:41.239 mentions here, twenty two countries legal framework required digital platforms to use machine learning 951 01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:45.119 to remove political, social, and religious speech that doesn't support national ideology, 952 01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:47.880 so you know, and then there's another quote here that I think does a 953 01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:53.119 nice job of summarizing it. Quote AI can be used to supercharge censorship, 954 01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:57.439 surveillance, and the creation and spread of disinformation unquote, says Michael J. 955 01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:01.960 Abramovitz, President of Freedom House. So yeah, you know, sadly all 956 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:08.239 of this stuff cuts both ways, and right now it's not obviously if you're 957 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:11.039 you know, a mainstream media outlet, you can decide what you want to 958 01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:15.359 publish. But if you're a social media site depending and you may have seen, 959 01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:17.720 you know, there's been kind of an ongoing battle now with Elon Musk 960 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:24.399 and Twitter slash x versus the EU and their new censorship loss. So you 961 01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:28.800 know, the idea that now I wouldn't even need human beings to report something 962 01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:31.279 or to go looking for stuff. I'm just going to unleash AI, which 963 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:35.520 runs twenty four seven thirty sixty five. Looking for stuff and attempt to tamp 964 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:43.840 it down certainly creates an Orwellian type of capability, memory hole kind of capability, 965 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.119 if you will. For those of them who out there who are nineteen 966 01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:49.199 eighty four fans that you know haven't previously existed certainly not at this level. 967 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:54.800 Well, and if you want to look at recent examples of social media and 968 01:13:55.079 --> 01:14:00.079 disinformation and it being disseminated around the world very quickly, look at the reports 969 01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:05.279 that said that from Hamas that Israel had bombed this hospital in Gaza, when 970 01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:12.199 in fact it was an Islamic jihadist missile that hit the parking lot of the 971 01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:15.079 hospital. But all around the world within minutes, it was, oh my 972 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:20.640 god, Israel's bombing hospitals in Gaza City. But it wasn't true. But 973 01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:26.560 yet again, it was around the world like that, and it sparked all 974 01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:31.720 kinds of violent protests in many countries, including our own. So well, 975 01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:34.600 and you know, GARYK. Jeff, I don't think it's going to get 976 01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:41.279 better anytime soon, because a you have these ways to spread the stuff very 977 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:45.680 quickly, and obviously people will use them for their own political means. And 978 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:48.560 then b you have these tools that can now generate the stuff very quickly at 979 01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:53.079 scale. It's really interesting if you read further into the report. I'm sure 980 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:57.640 this isn't shocking to anyone. China kept the dubious honor of having the world's 981 01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:00.000 worst environment for Internet freedom for the ninth year in a row. Although me 982 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.600 and Mar where death sentence has been carried out for crimes related to online expression, 983 01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:09.159 gave it a run for its money, so I'm sure that's not shocking 984 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:12.920 any well. I'm not planning on going to communist China or me on mar 985 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:18.399 anytime soon. And now now I'm going to have to rethink my future plans. 986 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:24.039 H Dave Hatter as always my pleasure, my friend, good stuff. 987 01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:27.640 Thank you, Garrett, Jeff. Look forward to talking to you. Against 988 01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:32.159 it all right, The Nightcap rolls on in minutes on seven LW. Listening 989 01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:36.520 to Scott Sloane keeps me from scratching my jocket. People have made some strange 990 01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:41.600 claims about the Scott Sloane Show. Listening to Scott Sloan helped me become a 991 01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.760 plagiarist. We can promise you that Sloaney talks about the things you are talking 992 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:49.560 about. Always ask the tough questions. Bud never forgets to have a little 993 01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:54.520 fun. Listening to Scott Sloan makes me feel sexy on the inside. Anything 994 01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:59.640 else is a Sloaney bonus. I swear it's true. Scott Sloan tomorrow morning 995 01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:04.399 and not on seven hundred WLW. Now you can relive the greatest moment from 996 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:09.560 our twenty twenty three Ill three had another hour of this night camp on a 997 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:14.359 Tuesday night. It's seven hundred wl W Gary Jeff Walker flying with you and 998 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:20.439 also riding shotgun with Rocco Costelano. We're doing some fitness training over the phone 999 01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:27.439 while Rocco is driving his car back from Texas from a Spartan race. Now 1000 01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:32.239 are you are you? Are you talking on the phone the way witches without 1001 01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:41.119 underwear ride their brooms hands free? I am, Well, my hands are 1002 01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:48.199 actually on the wheel and I am on my aftershocks headgear that I wear for 1003 01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:55.800 working out and for training and for driving, so that I'm allowed to drive 1004 01:16:57.279 --> 01:17:03.960 hands free without my hands is on a phone because it is illegal in all 1005 01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:08.880 the Blue states. Yeah, and almost you know, and now you can't. 1006 01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:14.600 You could be talking on the phone in Ohio, but you can't swipe 1007 01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:17.960 in Ohio. That's the new law. You know that the texting rule, 1008 01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:24.600 which I think is phenomenal. And Ohio's not a Blue state. Well, 1009 01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:30.359 and I think that any anytime that you are not a distracted from the road, 1010 01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:39.119 because right now I'm literally between five five to eighteen wheelers, and it's 1011 01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:43.000 a good idea to keep your hands on the wheel and your eyes on the 1012 01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:46.640 road. That's Jim Jim Morrison told you that years ago with roadhouse blues and 1013 01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.640 the doors. Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel 1014 01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:57.720 and the wheel yep. And Jim Morrison was absolutely right, because when you're 1015 01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:04.159 traveling, you know a thousand miles there and one thousand miles back. If 1016 01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:09.960 your eyes aren't aren't on the road and your hands upon the wheel, there 1017 01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:14.199 is some nasty stuff that you could see on the side of the road. 1018 01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:17.800 So this passed week many police officer. Now this this past weekend, we'll 1019 01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:21.760 get into some of the nasty stuff you've seen. Uh but that was that 1020 01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:27.600 was mostly a truck stops, wasn't it? And what was her name on 1021 01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:33.640 the side? Anyway, you went to you went to Dallas, Texas area 1022 01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:38.520 for a Spartan race. And again, real quickly, for people who have 1023 01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:42.000 not heard us talk about this before or don't know anything about it, what 1024 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.800 the heck is a Spartan race? Rocko Well, I would love to actually 1025 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:50.720 talked about the Spartan race because a lot of people really don't know, and 1026 01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:57.560 we had one. We have one at a Pupping North Slopes every June, 1027 01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:01.960 and that's the Cincinnati Qua Race. So I think that if they get if 1028 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:10.159 they start training now, they'll be able to actually conquer that. But this, 1029 01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:15.600 this race that I was at is called the Ultra Our Trifecta, and 1030 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:25.840 an ultra race is absolutely insane. It's nothing you've ever seen and nothing that 1031 01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:31.439 you could have ever imagined in your wildest dreams because it's a fifty k so 1032 01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:40.760 basically thirty two miles you're actually running, and then you have fifty obstacles that 1033 01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:45.640 you have to overcome. Obstacles like an Atlas carry, which is a big 1034 01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:51.680 one hundred pound borel that you have to carry carry one hundred yards. You 1035 01:19:51.800 --> 01:20:00.600 have to you have to climb a thirty foot rope, you have to you 1036 01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:05.560 have to go through what's called a dunk wall, which is basically you're climbing 1037 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:15.800 into mud and then freezing cold water and you're swimming through it underneath a wall 1038 01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:23.840 and then coming out the other side. And then you're running and you're doing 1039 01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:30.960 you have to lift up, you have to pull on this rope that's got 1040 01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:38.760 a really heavy weight. It's called the hercules, voist, and then there's 1041 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:47.239 things called the the apepang and the grinder where where they're like monkey bars and 1042 01:20:47.399 --> 01:20:56.640 you have to pull your weight across about ten yards of these monkey bars, 1043 01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:00.880 and most people just don't have to stretch. Well, Rocco, tell me 1044 01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:06.199 you're you're describing the ape hang and the monkey bars are do you compete against 1045 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:12.720 primates in this race? Well, I'm gonna tell you there's some beasts. 1046 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:26.119 I'm not Most of these people I don't believe are human what soever mindset. 1047 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:33.640 And I mean I think that they they have a genetic makeup from from primate. 1048 01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:38.079 I would have to believe that. Well, well, just super superhuman 1049 01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:41.359 genes is what you're talking about. The last time, the last time, 1050 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:45.119 the last time I had to participate with a one hundred pound ball, it 1051 01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:51.560 was because I just suffered a hernia. Well, well, I gotta tell 1052 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:56.439 you. They have bucket carries. They got sand bag carries. You have 1053 01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:00.199 to carry a sand bag for two hundred yards. You have to carry a 1054 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:05.279 bucket, and they used to make you fill your own bucket and then you 1055 01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:11.199 had to carry the door. But now they fillet for you. Okay, 1056 01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:15.760 yeah, now they're doing you a big favor right and then, and there 1057 01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:20.359 were so many people this one because it was so hot it was about eighty 1058 01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:28.640 five degrees in the Texas in I mean, there was so much dust and 1059 01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:34.520 it was so dry, and and you had to crawl under under barbed wire. 1060 01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:41.520 So if you don't like doing any of this, if you're a press 1061 01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:46.359 or a worse, it's not it's not a place that you will be happy 1062 01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:53.159 to be in because most of the people that like to do this don't like 1063 01:22:53.319 --> 01:23:01.640 it for about four by the hours and effect is so a triffect the week 1064 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:08.359 and an ultra triffect the week. And so the ultra is is a thirty 1065 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:13.840 two miles or fifty kb with fifty obstacles. And then you can either do 1066 01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:21.760 the ultra or the beast, which is which is a twenty two k which 1067 01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:27.880 is about thirteen and a half miles, and you know, spartan miles. 1068 01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:31.039 We always call it spart miles because it's opposed to be thirteen and a half 1069 01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:36.119 miles. But sometimes it's fourteen, sometimes it's fifteen, sometimes it's sixteen, 1070 01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:45.159 and you don't really know because it's a beast and the beast has thirty obstacles. 1071 01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:55.399 And then you have a Super which is which is a ten k and 1072 01:23:55.840 --> 01:24:02.000 it has twenty obstacles, and then you have the Sprint, which is a 1073 01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:08.520 five k, which is where a lot of people, well, you're breaking 1074 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:17.600 up rock. So you go from a Super to a sprint on the in 1075 01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:21.680 the same weekend. So that's what the trifector is. Goodness, so you 1076 01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:26.199 have, yeah, you have a Beast and you do it all in the 1077 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:30.520 same weekend. So you do you you run and do a lot of obstacles 1078 01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:35.000 on Saturday for the Beast or the Ultra, and then you go Sunday and 1079 01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:42.800 you do the Super in the sprint and you get a weekend a trifecta metal 1080 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:47.800 as well as the other medals that you get for a finishing the Beast, 1081 01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:51.880 the Ultra or the uh and the Super and the sp. Well, I 1082 01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:56.439 know that you. I know that you have the recovery tent. That's what 1083 01:24:56.560 --> 01:25:00.600 you're doing down there. You're helping people uh a after they've competed or getting 1084 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:04.399 getting ready to compete in these different events. Correct, that's what you're doing. 1085 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:11.199 Correct. So yeah, so we're changing the name to Athlete Services. 1086 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:16.920 Joe Desenna, the founder of the Sporting Race I used to train years ago 1087 01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:24.319 when he wanted to do twelve iron Men in twelve months and no one thought 1088 01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:33.000 he could and he actually did, and so he he he called me in 1089 01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:45.079 and asked me to build out something the athlete services or a recovery services for 1090 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:49.720 something called Spartan Plus a sport, and plus is a membership, a piece 1091 01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:56.319 of the Spartan a franchise, and I run all of that. I'm the 1092 01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.960 director of Athlete Services now and and it's going to be a fun thing. 1093 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:10.319 I'm going to be letting all the listeners know in the very near future about 1094 01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:17.720 a crazy, crazy thing that me and my family have decided to do who 1095 01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:25.520 with this bad race, So I want to keep it under under our hats 1096 01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:29.560 a little. Okay, okay, okay, Well that'll stay a secret right 1097 01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:31.479 now for now, Rocko. But what I want to know is, I 1098 01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:36.920 know you're doing this with to aid those who are competing in the Spartan race. 1099 01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:41.039 When was the last time you competed in a Spartan race or have you? 1100 01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.840 I have I have only done a sprint so far, so I am 1101 01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:53.359 not at liberty to say when I will be because I've been working them. 1102 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:58.039 Right, So you know, working them. I got to tell you, 1103 01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:03.359 working them is like doing a beast. I'm not there's no bs there. 1104 01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:10.439 It's it's a lot of work because these these are racers and these athletes and 1105 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:15.760 the real athletes. These people are real athletes. They go and they give 1106 01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:21.079 it their role and and with me, I really try to help them not 1107 01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:26.560 get hurt, you know. So we're doing so a lot of times a 1108 01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:30.920 pre race, I'll warm them up, I'll get them stretched. I'll also 1109 01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:41.359 tape them to before and then after we do we do a compression for our 1110 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:45.800 blood float to get the lack to gas set out. We'll get all the 1111 01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:50.680 metabolic waste that you know, I like we do at Arizona, but we 1112 01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:56.439 want to get all that metabolic waste out on Saturday so that they can run 1113 01:27:57.079 --> 01:28:02.279 and do everything on a Sunday that they are looking to do. And I 1114 01:28:02.760 --> 01:28:12.359 have can tell you the the the recovery stuff that we're doing is absolutely helping 1115 01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:18.159 are these these racers get to do another race because a lot of these people, 1116 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:25.680 a lot of these people, they they travel like I do to these 1117 01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:31.720 races of people coming up from from Florida, from Massachusetts, from California. 1118 01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:38.159 It's it's so awesome. It's all right. So anyway, then from Rosanna 1119 01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:45.880 Wellness and trained with Rocco dot Com Roccocostelano returning from the Spartan Race weekend in 1120 01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:50.399 Dallas, Texas by car. Let me ask you about your actual travel, 1121 01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:56.359 Rocco. Uh, on the way down, on the way down to Dallas, 1122 01:28:56.800 --> 01:29:00.439 what was the weirdest thing you saw? Did you see anything really really 1123 01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:04.039 crazy? Well? Have you have you heard about anything on the road that 1124 01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:09.199 was where you felt like, oh geez, this could be it, because 1125 01:29:09.239 --> 01:29:13.079 that's a long way to travel on the Interstates and a lot through a lot 1126 01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:18.520 of stuff. So yeah, so it's it's a little weird. I love 1127 01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:26.800 I love seeing the big things like like the Saint Louis you know, arch 1128 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:30.600 right. I love passing that and Bush Stadium. But that's not the weirdest 1129 01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:39.079 thing. Some of the weirdest things I've seen are car fires. I don't 1130 01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:44.399 I didn't imagine that I would see, you know, two or three car 1131 01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:49.399 fires on the way down Dallas. Well, you know, probably probably those 1132 01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:58.560 probably damn electric batteries. Well that could be that could be blowing up. 1133 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:05.319 Yeah, a lot of a lot of uh, a lot of truck drivers, 1134 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:12.239 and I love truck drivers, but I have to tell you they they're 1135 01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:18.279 not the happiest people on the road sometimes because they do they like to cut 1136 01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:25.920 cars off nowadays. So when you're traveling, you really have to be careful 1137 01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:31.920 and like I said, eyes on the road and and your hands up on 1138 01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:35.960 the wheel. Because so you're coming back where where are you right now? 1139 01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:41.840 Are you in Illinois yet? Coming back from Texas? Oh? Oh yeah? 1140 01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:47.840 Yeah? Are we passed Effingham? Effingham, Illinois? Uh, you 1141 01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:56.479 know, and we should be hitting terror Hoad anytime soon. I like, 1142 01:30:56.920 --> 01:31:00.000 I like, you know, I'm familiar with Effingham, and I like Effingham 1143 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:05.119 except for all the people that live there. That's right. And I knew 1144 01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:10.479 you were going to say something exactly like that. That's why I gave that 1145 01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:15.680 to you. I just handed that on the silvil flatter play. So I 1146 01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:19.119 mean you you must like driving. You must like driving, because that's a 1147 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:23.680 heck of a long trick, Rocco. It's twelve hours each way. Yeah, 1148 01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:29.880 well yeah, well I used to drive back back and forth from Cincinnati 1149 01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:35.680 to a New Jersey and New York when I first moved to Cincinnati. You 1150 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:41.159 know, a little over thirty years ago, and it doesn't work bother me 1151 01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:45.640 at all. My kids are whipped me, my wife's whipped me, and 1152 01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:51.239 it's it's awesome. It's just an awesome thing to see a nature now, 1153 01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:57.119 you know, like before all the all the leaves on the trees are changing, 1154 01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:02.560 you get to see I've stole upon livestime and I'm a little kid at 1155 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:08.800 heart, I really am. I love seeing cows, I love seeing asses, 1156 01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:14.000 I love seeing don gys and oh, if you're going to travel, 1157 01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:20.680 cow spotting has got to be number one priority with me. Absolutely. Yeah. 1158 01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:26.960 I mean I love seeing the ghost. And we saw an alpaca farm 1159 01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:31.520 where all these alpacas and I would like, wha, I want to stop? 1160 01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.479 You know, yeah, alpacas are a lot better than a lot better 1161 01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:39.119 than wind farms or solar farms. Roco, listen, thanks for taking some 1162 01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:42.640 time on the road with us, and we'll talk to you Saturday morning. 1163 01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:48.680 Train with Rocco dot Com. Razanna Wellness at five sixteen five nineteen Madison Avenue 1164 01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:53.279 in Covington, and you probably catch him to the Spartan race near you. 1165 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:57.760 He says, there's one coming up in Perfect North next June. The Cincinnati 1166 01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:01.159 Spartan race, so more details on that to come. It's the nightcap. 1167 01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:06.880 Mike Reader from Mike's Music joins us in minutes on seven hundred WLW. Sometimes 1168 01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:11.119 I get a little hungry in the afternoon, but instead of reaching for junk 1169 01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:14.720 food, I pull out a healthy pack of number one Shogun dried cuttlefish. 1170 01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:19.359 The Crunchies dried cuttlefish guaranteed the perfect salty fish munch you while listening to Eddie 1171 01:33:19.399 --> 01:33:25.239 and Rocky, Dried cuttlefish is an excellent source of protein and calciu. Eddie 1172 01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:29.359 and Rocky are an excellent source for local issues, one of the kind interviews 1173 01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:34.199 and fun times Eddie and Rockey More afternoon at three on seven hundred WLW. 1174 01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:40.439 There's only one thing we love better than football, and that's tailgating. And 1175 01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:44.520 there's no better way to enjoy both than in a new Ford f one fifty. 1176 01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:47.319 Hey, why not talk about the music Man? And I'm not talking 1177 01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:53.720 about the music hold the music Man. I'm talking about Mike the music Man 1178 01:33:53.800 --> 01:34:00.760 from Mike's Music and also the theater there in Covington. To talk about that 1179 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.720 and much more. Revisiting with Mike Reader, how are you doing, Michael 1180 01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:09.119 I'm great, Gary, thanks for having me back on No great, It's 1181 01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:14.279 always great to have you. He's got great stories. He has entertained world 1182 01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:18.880 famous guitarists in his mitst to have come to his shop to shop and to 1183 01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:25.520 look and anything. Anything you can tell us about today. Just you want 1184 01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:29.520 to drop some names on us, We'll be happy to hear you drop some 1185 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:32.279 names. The one thing I definitely want to say is that we have this 1186 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:35.279 great show come up the Village Theater. We have Christian Lenney, who is 1187 01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:40.279 the Acoustic Guitarist of the Year and she is playing with Tree, so I 1188 01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:46.680 want to make sure I plug that and that's coming up on November, Yeah, 1189 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:50.319 November fifth, which is a Sunday Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, that's 1190 01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:56.159 going to be killer. And she's just amazing. If people are familiar with 1191 01:34:56.279 --> 01:35:01.119 like Tommy Emmanuel, she's similar in that vein Okay. Yeah, she sings 1192 01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:05.399 too though. But it's really really good and I'm really looking forward to that 1193 01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:09.239 show. But as far as the store goes, yeah, we got we 1194 01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:12.960 got some cool. It's been really insanely busy, Like the last couple of 1195 01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.920 weeks, it's we've had tons of people come through, you know, if 1196 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:19.279 you want me to drop some names, Like the Dylan band came through and 1197 01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:23.560 they they were in town for a couple of days before the show. Now, 1198 01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:28.039 who was this I missed the name? Who was just Bob Dylan? 1199 01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:31.760 Well, but Dylan wasn't with him this time because he flew in the last 1200 01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:34.479 minute. But I did get to go backstage and that was cool, and 1201 01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:38.760 they they hung out the store for three days and we just had a grand 1202 01:35:38.840 --> 01:35:41.159 time. Man, they came to our Wednesday night, jammed down at the 1203 01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:45.600 theater. Well you know, no way. Yeah, let me let me 1204 01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:48.159 ask you, Mike, let me ask you. Bob Dylan's band used to 1205 01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:53.359 be the band Robbie Robertson and those guys back in the day. Who was 1206 01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:58.199 who's playing with Bob? And are they his contemporaries or are they younger musicians 1207 01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:02.359 that are just just really well traveled younger musicians. Yeah, so a lot 1208 01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:05.520 of younger guys. He's had the same bass player for a long time. 1209 01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:11.960 He's got Bob Britton on guitar, and a new guy out of Nashville named 1210 01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:15.000 Doug. I can't think his last name right now. And I've like become 1211 01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:20.319 really good friends with Jason his guitar tech and just the whole crew, and 1212 01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:24.560 you know, it was so much fun because they hung out the store. 1213 01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:27.079 We did you know, guitar deals, We did a lot of trades and 1214 01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:32.760 we ended up going to actually watch Kiss together and then tell me about tell 1215 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:40.079 me about Jane and Paul on their fiftieth farewell tour. How did you find 1216 01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:45.359 that whole experience? You know, I'm not like a huge Kiss fan, 1217 01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:47.000 but when I when I see the Kiss show, I think of it as 1218 01:36:47.079 --> 01:36:50.560 like going to the circus. Man. It's it's an experience, you know, 1219 01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:55.560 and it's just they put on a hell of a show that's just amazing 1220 01:36:55.720 --> 01:37:00.319 as far as pyrotechnics and the lighting, and it's just a whole thing. 1221 01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:02.640 It's it's amazing. It was cold, you know, we got to go 1222 01:37:02.720 --> 01:37:05.520 backstage. I saw some of the gear and it was it was a fun 1223 01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:11.119 time, you know. And then Chris Stapleton came in a week or two 1224 01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:15.279 ago and bought some stuff. And we've just had a run of like a 1225 01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:17.399 lot of good acts come through town and hang out the store. So yeah, 1226 01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:21.920 it's been a great time. But yeah, if you've never seen Kiss 1227 01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:25.640 Love, you got you gotta do that they say it's the final tour, 1228 01:37:25.760 --> 01:37:28.359 but you know how that guess no inten, no, no, Mike. 1229 01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:32.880 It's been the final tour for twenty five years. It's been the farewell tour 1230 01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:39.600 for thirty years. These guys don't know the meaning of the word quit. 1231 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:43.359 But you know what, in all fairness, you know, I'm getting up 1232 01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:45.479 there. I'm a little long in the tooth. I'm forty three years in 1233 01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:51.840 the business. I'm getting into my early sixties, and I could tell you 1234 01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:58.520 next week it's I'm gonna start my final year and that'd be total bs because 1235 01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:00.720 I know damn well. But as long as I'm physically and mentally capable and 1236 01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:04.239 somebody will let me do it for them, I'll be doing this as long 1237 01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:10.960 as I'm you know, breathing breath. More than likely, it's just something 1238 01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:15.239 that I do. I don't know why anyone it would either. The only 1239 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:20.159 reason you would have that many farewell tours is that you're just a greedy sob 1240 01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:25.680 Well, you know, they like planning, you know, But the thing 1241 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.600 is that vocally, you know, when you reach a certain age, it's 1242 01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:32.159 really tough on the singers, and sometimes that that puts an end to it. 1243 01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:35.159 You know what I'm saying. It's just one of those things where you 1244 01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:38.960 just can't hit the high nuts. Well that's what That's what Steve Tyler is 1245 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.199 going through right now with canceling the all these Aerosmith tour dates that was supposed 1246 01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:45.439 to be their last tour. They plan, they say, they're going to 1247 01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:51.520 reschedule, but he has done great damage to his vocal cords over the years. 1248 01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:57.439 And when you hear somebody like Steven Tyler, you understand why. You 1249 01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:00.560 know, yeah, you know, and there's things you can do, like 1250 01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:01.560 you know, a lot of the pitch and stuff of the songs, but 1251 01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:04.800 there's only so far you can go. And then you know, it's like 1252 01:39:05.439 --> 01:39:10.800 sometimes the reality of that that that puts the end of things. So you 1253 01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:14.319 know, you never know, but you know, if anybody will keep going, 1254 01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:17.680 you know, kiss will So Yeah, who was in your time And 1255 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:23.119 there probably been a number of occasions, Mike Reader, But in your times, 1256 01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:29.159 in your meetings with different people who surprised you the most as far as 1257 01:39:29.319 --> 01:39:33.920 what you what your preconceived notion of this person was and what actually transpired. 1258 01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:40.600 You got any stories like yeah, probably like Tom Waits was one of the 1259 01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:45.800 surprises I had. I actually feel like we became pretty good friends, you 1260 01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:47.560 know, hanging out because he came to the store for like three days. 1261 01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:51.239 What did you expect. Did you expect a just a drunk, kind of 1262 01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:57.720 off to himself kind of guy or what I didn't you know, I'm I 1263 01:39:58.039 --> 01:40:00.960 expected him to just be kind of aloof and and honestly, when he first 1264 01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:03.199 came in the first day, it was sort of like that, you know, 1265 01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:05.960 he had a small usher, aws and stuff. But by the third 1266 01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:10.479 day, it was it was like just hanging out with then you know, 1267 01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:15.119 a buddy talking gear, you know, and recording and stuff. And then 1268 01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:21.920 the next thing that pops to mind is you know Frampton or you know, 1269 01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:26.319 there's just spent so many people. Vince Gill was like one of the nicest 1270 01:40:26.359 --> 01:40:29.239 people I've ever met in my life. See, that's that's what I would 1271 01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:32.199 expect, just from what I have heard other people say and just the demeanor, 1272 01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:38.359 I'd expect Vince gil to be just a great guy. You talked about 1273 01:40:38.399 --> 01:40:42.399 the Peter Frampton story with us previously, and you didn't know who it was 1274 01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:45.600 at first. I remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was 1275 01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:48.399 the one that acted poorly in that meeting. But Joe ash was cool. 1276 01:40:49.039 --> 01:40:53.439 I got to go see Joe, and Joe was He couldn't have been nicer. 1277 01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:56.439 And I guess my image of Joe was like the crazy party guy, 1278 01:40:56.600 --> 01:41:00.359 sure, because I'm like a huge fan of The Who and Joe and it 1279 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:02.600 was one of those guys used to do crazy stuff, throw things out windows 1280 01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:05.720 and stuff. But when I met Joe and he was on the you know, 1281 01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:10.600 past that stage of his life, so he was like super nice, 1282 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:14.000 just one way out of his way to be kind to us. Yeah. 1283 01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:16.439 My one interview with Joe Walsh, I I just found him to be very 1284 01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:23.920 funny and very cool. Hilarious, Yeah, super hilarious. What time was 1285 01:41:23.960 --> 01:41:30.159 that? That was? That was when the Kentucky Speedway was opening and Joe 1286 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:33.079 Walsh came to play a concert. Is kind of like a christening of the 1287 01:41:33.199 --> 01:41:38.600 place before there was ever any major NASCAR race, which of course there aren't 1288 01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:43.800 anymore at Kentucky Speedway, but he was there to play a concert at the 1289 01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:48.520 track and it was kind of like the opening year of the Speedway and that 1290 01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:53.000 was it. I mean I went out for the show and had interviewed him 1291 01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:56.800 on the phone a couple of weeks before good stuff. It probably past his 1292 01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:00.279 wild stage. Oh no, no, no, it had been so long 1293 01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:03.600 since Joe had had a nip out of a bottle or a hit off of 1294 01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:06.800 anything else. But you know what, I believe that there is such a 1295 01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:15.159 thing as as residual resin. It does last for a while, I guess 1296 01:42:15.239 --> 01:42:17.319 so, just from the conversation. Okay, tell me, tell me the 1297 01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:21.239 name of the artist that's playing at the Village Theater and when it's November fifth, 1298 01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:28.319 Christy who November fifth? November fifth is Christy Line. She's Acoustic Guitar 1299 01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:33.119 Player of the Year. She's a fingerstyle International Guitarist of the Year, and 1300 01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:39.039 she is amazingly talented. And one of my bands called Tree is going to 1301 01:42:39.079 --> 01:42:43.439 open up, which works sort of like a prog rock experimental band, and 1302 01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:46.520 that's always an adventure. Yeah, if you guys could come out, it 1303 01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:51.319 starts at seven and the doors are at seven. The show starts at seven 1304 01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:55.279 thirty, so I can't wait for that show. Make sure you come out 1305 01:42:55.319 --> 01:42:58.159 to the Village Theater down there Mainstrass. All right, buddy, thank you 1306 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:01.119 for your time tonight. Mike Reader from Mike Music in the Village Theater and 1307 01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:06.239 we'll talk again soon brother. Thanks, Yeah, let's do that song. 1308 01:43:06.359 --> 01:43:11.079 Thanks Gary. Okay, yeah, we're working on a Jimmy Buffett tribute song 1309 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:15.239 that I wrote that still hasn't still hasn't come to fruition as of yet. 1310 01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:19.359 Up next, we will close this nightcap with my bride, Chris to two 1311 01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:27.000 point zero and her NFL picks for week eight ahead. I'm sure you're chopping 1312 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:32.079 at the bit to find out what she thinks because she is a couch She's 1313 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:38.319 a couch expert when it comes to the National Football League. Well, she 1314 01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:44.520 watches the games with me anyway, seven hundred WLW. Now you can great 1315 01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:47.199 epiphany when I found out that my wife liked to watch golf with me on 1316 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:53.000 Sunday, but she's always been a football fan. And with the explosion of 1317 01:43:53.199 --> 01:44:00.159 gambling on the NFL now legally almost everywhere in the country, I figured that 1318 01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:04.880 any kind of help that you the listener can get when it comes to making 1319 01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:11.840 your wagers for the week ahead, you should have that advantage. And I'm 1320 01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:15.279 going to tell you she is a savant. She once picked a try fecta 1321 01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:21.600 in the Kentucky Derby. So do not discount the prognostications of my wife christ 1322 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:27.640 to two point zero when it comes to watching watching the football. So are 1323 01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:30.479 you there, honey, Yes, I am all right, and you're ready 1324 01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:33.520 with your picks. Now, we're not doing we're not doing point spreads. 1325 01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:38.880 We're just doing who's going to win the game? Okay, So all right, 1326 01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:42.560 So this is the money line here for each of these games for Week 1327 01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:45.479 eight in the NFL, Chris the two point zeros picks. Make sure you've 1328 01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:50.039 got a piece of paper and a pen or pencil out to write these down. 1329 01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:55.039 We're going to go through the whole schedule very quickly. If you're ready, 1330 01:44:55.399 --> 01:45:00.760 I'm ready. Let's go. Thursday night, it's the Buccaneers pouring their 1331 01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:06.800 bucket helmets, bucking helmets over their bucking heads to face the Buffalo Bills in 1332 01:45:06.960 --> 01:45:13.199 Buffalo. Who wins this game, Krista, I think Tampa will take them. 1333 01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:18.279 Okay, going with the Buccaneers. The Giants live in Florida. I 1334 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:23.640 gotta go with Tampa. Okay, all right, well you don't. You 1335 01:45:23.720 --> 01:45:28.920 don't live in Florida anymore. You live in Cincinnati. Okay, all right. 1336 01:45:30.039 --> 01:45:34.279 It's it's the Battle of the Empire State when the New York Jets take 1337 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:39.319 on the New York Giants and they play the game in New Jersey. Who 1338 01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:45.680 wins Jets? Jets at Giants? I gotta say Jets, any reason why? 1339 01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:50.960 Just because the Giants aren't they could No, they're not. In spite 1340 01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:59.760 of our friend bait shot Paul Hype Jaggs. Play the Pittsburgh Steelers. Go 1341 01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:05.039 Jags. You just take the Steelers. The Eagles are in Washington to play 1342 01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:12.479 the redsk I mean Commanders. Who wins the Eagles Washington game? Hopefully the 1343 01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:17.439 Eagles? Okay. The Rams are in Dallas to face off against those cowboys. 1344 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:21.600 How about them Cowboys? Or will it be the Los Angeles Rams winning 1345 01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:28.560 that game? It's gonna be the Cowboys. You want to be a cowboy? 1346 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:33.079 You want to be a cowgirl? Okay, good get her pronouns right, 1347 01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:40.079 folks. The Vikings are in Green Bay to play the Packers. Got 1348 01:46:40.199 --> 01:46:45.680 to go to the Vikings or Purple. Yeah they won last night. The 1349 01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:53.159 Falcons the Falcons against the Tennessee Titans in Tennessee in Nashville. I'm going Titans, 1350 01:46:53.239 --> 01:46:56.000 you know. I gotta go with the Titans, all right. The 1351 01:46:56.119 --> 01:47:03.720 Texans versus the Panthers, Oh, that's a cos that's a guess well, 1352 01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:08.880 I'll take the Panthers, all right. Uh, the Patriots and the Dolphins. 1353 01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:14.800 As much as I hate it the Patriots, Oh you think they're on 1354 01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:17.600 a little roll here? Now, this is the Dolphins team that's been pretty 1355 01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:23.920 good, pretty explosive. Uh. The New Orleans Saints versus the Indianapolis Colts, 1356 01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:27.199 and I know who you're gonna pick already. You know I'm gonna pick 1357 01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:31.039 the Saints. Yep, that's a Homer pick. Remember, you can't always 1358 01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.680 pick with your heart, honey, Sometimes you gotta pick with your head. 1359 01:47:34.359 --> 01:47:42.000 The Chiefs and the Broncos, and you better say one team. Let me 1360 01:47:42.119 --> 01:47:46.359 get chee. That is correct, the Chefs. Kansas City continues their march 1361 01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:51.399 to the AFC Championship and then another Super Bowl. And the Browns and the 1362 01:47:51.479 --> 01:47:56.520 Seahawks used to live in Washington State. Does that influence your decision at all? 1363 01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:01.239 Well, I hate the Browns because Cincinnati. So there's got to be 1364 01:48:01.319 --> 01:48:05.000 the Seahawks, and yes, I love the Seahawks. The Baltimore Ravens up 1365 01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:11.119 against the Arizona Cardinals out in the desert. Who wins this game? You 1366 01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:14.720 know? I love me some Larry Fitzgerald, even though he doesn't play anymore. 1367 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:20.479 I'm going with the Cardinals, Bears, Chargers in Los Angeles Chargers. 1368 01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:29.000 The Raiders face off against the Detroit Lions. I'm going to the Lions. 1369 01:48:29.159 --> 01:48:32.520 I just don't like the Raiders. Their mean never like the Raiders. Never 1370 01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:39.439 ever like the Raiders. And finally, my dear who day, Cincinnati Bengals 1371 01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:44.520 taken on the San Francisco forty nine ers in a matchup that maybe has lost 1372 01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:47.000 some of its luster after San Francisco's last two losses. But what do you 1373 01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:51.319 think the Bengals coming back after the bye week facing off against San Francisco. 1374 01:48:51.720 --> 01:48:57.439 They're all time Super Bowl nemesis. Who manages to eke out a win in 1375 01:48:57.640 --> 01:49:02.000 San fran this coming Sunday afternoon? I think it's could be a day weekend. 1376 01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:08.119 All right? There you go, Christas picks and we'll see you know 1377 01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:10.880 what, We're gonna look at what your record is. Did you remember all 1378 01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:15.560 the teams you picked? Oh no, well, I've got the sheet here 1379 01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:18.520 at home. I'll let you know, okay, and we'll find out what 1380 01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:27.000 your percentage is like for next week. I've got allergies, that's okay, 1381 01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:30.159 that's okay, as long as it's not the VID. We're fine, No, 1382 01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:35.119 okay, thank you baby, I'll see you soon, all right. 1383 01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:41.800 Bye. Christ the two point zero with her picks this week in the NFL. 1384 01:49:42.359 --> 01:49:45.000 I hope that helped. And with that, I leave you with the 1385 01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:50.319 National Anthem to honor America. The Star Spangled Banner closes us out tonight on 1386 01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:51.920 seven hundred W l W