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Hey, everybody, this is Less
Striding. Yes, yes, I know

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aka Surviving Man, and you're listening
to Brian on Sasquats. Oddis you,

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guys, and welcome back to Sasquatching
Boys. Thank you so much for beating

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with us from the show. It
is Friday. I hope you guys have

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had a week. We have an
amazing guest line up for you. But

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as always, I want to start
by inviting you. If you've had an

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encounter and you'd like to be on
the show, shoot me an email you

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get me at Brian at Paranormal World
Productions dot com. You can head over

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to the website check it out,
become a member there and help support the

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show. We do have a great
guest on the show today. We got

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Logan back on the show. Logan
has been on guys. She was on

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last year I think, and he
just got back from an expedition up in

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the Radium area in BC with Todd
standing back in July. And as most

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of you know, I'm going up
there in the beginning of October and I

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will be up there for a week
on an expedition with Todd and Kyle and

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those guys up there in BC.
So Logan is here to share some of

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his recent experiences. On that last
outing, he had some really cool experiences

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and I let him tell you all
about that in just a second. Before

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we get to Logan, I just
want to take a couple of seconds and

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do this for Doug high Chick.
He reached out to me recently. Again,

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as you guys know, he's doing
the Legend Meet Science to documentary and

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he's looking for a couple of volunteers
that are willing to do some really cool

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stuff with regression. So if you've
had a class A siding and you would

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be willing to possibly participate in the
documentary and undergo hypnotism relaxation with a trained

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PhD for that film, you can
reach out to me Brian at Paranormal World

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Productions dot com, or you can
email Doug high Check directly Doug at Untold

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dam dot com. Just let Doug
know that you heard about it here on

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Sasquatch Odyssey. Please make sure to
include your phone number in the email,

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so either I or Doug can reach
out to you directly, and just know

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that if you want your identity concealed
for the film, that can happen as

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well. So you can remain anonymous
and still participate in this really really cool

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thing that they're doing for Legend Meet
Science too. I know you guys are

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ready to get into it. Logan's
on the line, he's ready to go.

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So I'm gonna let the music play. You guys, sit back,

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relax, and enjoy the show.
All right, folks, I want to

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welcome my guests back to the show. It is Logan from Texas. What's

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going on? Man, A whole
lot of stuff. Been busy, went

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out with Todd again. It'd be
my third time out with him. Personally,

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I've been busy. But O,
we're all just been listening to your

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show up and let's not have everything
Bigfoot awesome. Man, I'm glad you

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reached out. I saw that you
were going back out with Todd back in

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July, and I certainly wanted to
get you back on. Hey. I

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always like to hear how people have
that experience, what that experience is like

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for them when they go out.
If you haven't experience while you're there with

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this, ask watch. So let's
move into that. I'm going up there

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in October. I'm looking forward to
I've been wanting to do this for a

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while. And I know you've been
out, Like you said, this is

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your third time, So talk about
July and talk about that process. How

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did that come about? What made
you go out? Let's start there,

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what made you go out again for
the third time with Todd, and then

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just walk us into that experience and
tell us what happened while you were out

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there. I guess from the first
show I went into a lot of the

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experiences I have, but I just
get a really good vibe out there.

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It's beautiful. There's a whole lot
of trace evidence out there. I've had

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experiences comfortable there, and honestly,
a week out there is what I need

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to refixate my life here. So
it's it's therapeutic to me. And that's

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also I just love big Foot and
I love everything big Foot, so it's

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it's awesome to me. And I've
got to know Todd, I guess on

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a more personal level on it.
He's a good guy, he's a family

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guy. He's very energetic, enthusiastic
person. I want to find a camp

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somewhere I can go where I know
there's going to be activity. I don't

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want to go out in the woods
and just camp like I want to know

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where a good spot is where I
know at least have some kind of interaction.

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I haven't been able to find a
lot of stuff around me. I

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know you've probably done interviews to people
around Texas area, but I don't really

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hear anything super positive. I hear
a lot of groups that are want to

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shoot and prove it. And most
of the land in Texas is private property.

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There's not a lot of mountains,
there's not a lot of public big

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huge ranges where you can just go
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to me, it's a great country
out there, and it's awesome going up

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there. Let's talk about once you
get there. I'm going up there in

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October. Like I said, what
is it like as far as the experience

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of coming into that area? And
there's been a couple of questions, and

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maybe you can throw this in as
your answer, because after I started saying

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I was going up there, after
I announced that, people started asking me

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where is this place? Obviously I
don't have the coordinates. I'm not going

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to drop the coordinates of where this
place is so people can go up there

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and do their thing or what have
you. But can you give a little

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bit of a layout of the land
for me first and foremost, and then

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everybody who's listening, is this private
land? Is it public land? Is

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it way out in the middle of
nowhere? Is it hard to get to

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give us the play by play of
going into this and then what happens once

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you get on site and really get
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Sure, I think for most part
it's pretty out in the middle of nowhere.

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Coming into Calgary from the airport,
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away from Calgary. It's in the
Radium Mountain range, in between Radium and

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amph like in the middle of that
zone, and which is a huge zone.

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Come in on this dirt road and
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people are doing and you'll see it
when you go out there is like the

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main offset of that road is really
for mining, right, So there's a

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lot of old logging stuff all the
way through there, but the main road

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there is really I don't know what
is it, twenty twenty miles where these

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big trucks go through for mining.
There's a mine that they do. I

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don't know what's I don't know what
kind of rocket is, but they're mining

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this mountain down a ways and that's
really the closest thing the civilization with you'll

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see truckers and again that's still like
off the norm. That's the general area.

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And I know Todd likes to keep
it somewhat secluded because he doesn't want

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people to like ruin this zone.
Maybe some day people will know it more.

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I don't know. I don't want
to ruin it for him. That's

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about as close as I could tell
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what to expect. Todd's really good
about food, Like he brings all the

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food. He does all that gives
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And he's got some ebikes out there
for when the days where you're not really

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hiking a lot, you can use
the e bikes and just look at there's

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some trails around there where you can
ebike, go down to the glacier,

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run off these rivers that go into
the main river there and just explore because

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let's be honest, you're not going
to see a big foot every second of

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the day, right. It's beautiful
land out there, So it's that's what

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you should expect, just a lot
of hiking, a lot of around the

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base camps really where a lot of
the activity happens, which you know he

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used to have another he'll take you
out to another place where Survivorman went up

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the mountain and did his old on
the tree power bars and the head of

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the Sasquatch. He'll take to that
place, which is probably like thirty miles.

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I don't know. I'm really bad
about duzzing distance, but it's probably

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twenty miles. His main base camp
right now with a worthy a lot of

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activity happens, so you hike around
a lot, and just me hiking around

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there, I found a lot of
footprints on my own the last time I

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went out. Like when t is
getting familiar with her, he just want

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to make sure you're not running the
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A lot of people don't go out
in the woods that they're not really

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outdoorsy, so they don't really know
the rules of bears and wild animals and

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attraction and smells and stuff. He's
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like he wants to keep everybody safe. He doesn't want you to be stupid

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and go off trail too far just
because it's anger's out there. If you

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don't have bear spay or something possible. You come up on a black bear.

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I came up on at least five
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so I mean they're out there.
As far as like expectations I can

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give you, like the last trip
I was out there, a sequential order

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of things that happened to me in
our group. But I think going out

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there, you can make it what
you want to make it. If you

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want to go, Hey, I
want to go that way, I want

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to see that mount over there.
I want to go hike that mountain.

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You do whatever you want to do. I had the notion of trying to

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use something I can't remember the app
name, but it's an app aimed it

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does like a random geo location.
One of my neighbors told me about it.

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I was like, oh, that's
cool. So I took it out

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there and used a little bit.
You need the Internet for it to work,

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so it can geo okay where you
are. But he has like a

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Starling system out there now so he
can do some short videos and stuff.

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Because it runs off a diesel generator, so you can't have it running all

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the time. He has trails and
stuff that he shows you where he's had

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sidings activity. If we find tracks
or structures, he'll probably take you there

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and ask you what you think about
it. There's a lot of cool stuff

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that we found, new breaks,
we found new structures. We just explore

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a bit, and then stuff happened
to me during the day, and then

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stuff happened to me at night,
and then stuff happened to me early morning.

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So it's random. I can't put
a dime frame on it. Things

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happen. That's what I would expect
for you. I know you're gonna go

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out with Kyle, right, Yes, And I think Kyle's dad's gonna fly

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in as well, and he'll be
there for the week. Yeah. And

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Kyle knows the air really well.
I know it really will now. Yeah.

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I mean, you just do what
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the last people that came out put
recorders out everywhere. I was actually I

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got it. I think off of
your show with Doug hi check Hey.

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He was talking about how he made
his own custom body cam. I use

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your show as thought process, like, Okay, I'm gonna do it.

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He did making my own, So
I basically bought a lot of what he

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talked about and put it on me
when i'd go hiking because it wasn't like

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night vision, so at night it's
not super useful. But when I went

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hiking, I wore it all the
time, So I actually got a little

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bit of content off of that just
doing that. So it's good, good

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stuff. Let's talk about some of
those experiences. You said you had them

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all during morning, afternoon, and
evening night. So just go into sort

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of a playboy play with the experiences
that you had and what they were in

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the time of day that you were
experiencing them. Okay, I want to

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say it was the second day we
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in and we're basically I think it
was later the guys I was with they

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were from Pennsylvania, I want to
say, and they were two brothers.

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First it was showing where Todd did
his gifting area and just the lay of

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the land. Later in that evening, I want to say it was Friday

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Todd. I guess it's his girlfriend. Actually, she came out. She

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was out there with us, and
I've been watching some of her stuff too.

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I was okay with her coming out
because she seems to have a lot

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of experience. I don't know.
Maybe females attract more activity, so I'm

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all good with it, right,
More activity for me is better. So

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she gets out there. We're sitting
it's probably eight, and this time in

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the mountains, it doesn't even it
doesn't get dark there till eleven o'clock at

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night. So it messes up my
internal clock because I'm used to sun going

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out at nine, no matter what. It was like eight and the sun

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was still up. We had a
parabolic system that I had bought and sent

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to Todd and the guys were using
it. It was actually Robert Crider makes

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it. And if you've never had
Robert Cryder on your show, I would

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definitely get home on your show because
the guy is he's a brilliant guy,

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and I totally respect for what he's
doing. He's doing the same stuff Todd's

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doing. But they were using it
and they were listening. Todd and Ashley

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over there and they're hearing some movement
in the woods. This guy, Matt,

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he was using it and he was
listening. He's I hear stuffed over

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here, like I hear stuff walking
out there. So I say, okay,

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we'll just see what happens. And
he's pointing it like one hundred eighty

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degrees around the camp, just listening, and you hear it on both sides

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of us. He's hearing it on
both sides. And then his brother's taking

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it and listening and he's hearing some
stuff too, and we're like, okay,

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Tod, let's go on there,
let's see, let's see what's about.

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Let's go in the woods where we're
hearing it. Let's see if we

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can see anything. Right, So
we start walking in the woods. I

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put my body came on just in
case. I was like, all right,

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I can't remember to wear this thing, so I put it on.

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I'm probably in the back because I
had to get all that stuff on.

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And then they're walking in front of
me, and you hear like these footsteps

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ahead of us. It doesn't sound
like an animal petal steps. You can

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hear it. It's probably fifty feet
away. You can hear the movement.

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And Dan and Matt there's the two
brothers have been there for a day and

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Tod Todd has the shotgun. Right. Dan's in the front and he's hearing

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this and he's I don't want to
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the gun. I don't know what
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little freaked out at first, right, So he's sad, you gotta get

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ahead of me, man, this
is crazy, Like I don't know what

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that is. And Todd gets ahead
on he's walking and we all just spread

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out and I just stay in the
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or less in my mentality, if
there's one, there's two, so maybe

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I should be looking behind us,
right, So I'm looking more behind us.

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Just cope and stuff out, and
they fan out through the woods and

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I go my own direction and Ashley's
following me and it just stops. We

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don't hear it anymore. We're like, Okay, that was super weird.

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There's like a hill that's above the
base camp and I wanted to go up

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there, but I was like,
yeah, I don't really want to climb

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that hill right now. I feel
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hill, and they were going more
let's just call it nors. So we

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go back to base camp and we're
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that was really cool, and then
we just hear like I'm not good with

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sounds, but we hear like yells
like to stink yells in the woods totally

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different direction, like two of them. Dodd doesn't even hear it. He's

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inside making dinner for us. We're
sitting by the fire, we're here and

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these yells like, okay, that's
crazy. What is that? And I

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was like, I don't know how
goodn't hear it? So it was just

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random things to that nature. Like
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you know, we would stay up. I would try to stay up at

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night a lot, just because I
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to stay up pretty late and just
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have much, but we'll just talk
around the fire at night every night,

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just random stuff. Todd has tons
of stories. It's fun to listen to.

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The Next day, we go put
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probably I don't know, I'm giving
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away from base camp. So we
put out apples and we're talking about past

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experiences and stuff like that, and
then we just fan out a little bit

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more. And I've been there,
m Like I said, I've been there

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twice. So to me, like
Todd's kind of teaching those guys about like

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the local trees, the plants,
the fruit like stuff like that, bears,

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you name it. And I've heard
some of this already, so I'm

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just like, I'm just gonna do
my own thing. So I start just

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go on my own way. I
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to do, is just have my
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way. And Ashley's kind of by
me, and we're walking through the woods

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and it's probably both over one in
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before we had lunch. And I'm
walking and Ashley, he's probably fifty

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feet away from me. I can
see her, and I take my eyes

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off her and I keep walking.
I don't and I don't know where she

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went. And Todd's down the trail
what he calls a porcupine trail. I'm

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not sure where he is at this
point because I just know he's with the

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other guy showing him something. But
he was way down the trail because later

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on bait took him a while to
get back. And I hear actually do

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a whistle, and I'm pretty sure
it was her because it sounded like her.

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I think she was trying to just
buy locate me and have me whistle

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back, just to know where I
was. But I can't whistle, so

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I'm just like, you're barking up
the wrong tree. I've never been out

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of a whistle, so I don't
say anything because I don't want to yell

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and dream in the wood. So
I'm just like whatever, I'm not gonna

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whistle back. I'm just gonna keep
going. About three seconds later, you

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just hear a really clear whistle.
I'd say thirty feet from me on my

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left Directionally, I was on my
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we're it was in the middle of
us. I just thought it was like

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Todd or somebody doing a whistle,
and I was like, okay, cool,

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they're here. I'm just gonna keep
walking up the seal. I'm actually

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just looking for prints on the ground. I go back to base camp after

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a bit in the woods, just
sitting. Ashley comes back. She's,

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man, you're so good at whistling. You whistle better than Todd. And

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I'm like, what are you talking
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you whistled back, and I was
saying, no, I didn't.

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I was like, that wasn't Todd. And she's now I'm like, oh,

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she's oh my god, like what
Like it was right in the middle

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of both of us, like thirty
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we couldn't see it. It literally
did a super clear whistle back at Ashley

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and we both heard it and she
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thought it was someone else doing it. And again, Todd didn't show up

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till ten minutes later. He was
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So it was just like, we're
stupid. We didn't even realize there's something

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right in the middle of us,
Like where the heck is this thing.

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It's middle of the day, and
it's not a bird coal We're not that

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area, and we know what a
bird sounds like. It was like a

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cumanistic whistle and I can't whistle.
I'd do it for you, but yeah,

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it was definitely a whistle. It
wasn't from us, and it was

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a cool feelings to hear that whistle
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in retrospect know that it wasn't either
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was really cool. Like I said, we go out and we go do

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a lot of hiking and stuff.
A lot of it is just really hiking

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in July there, it's hotter than
usual for those I'm from Texas. To

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me, it's like nothing. To
them, it's oh my god, it's

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so hot. But we do a
lot of hiking, a lot of take

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breaks and just chill in the shade
a lot. Dan had an experience when

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we were hiking where he felt like
something was coming up on him. I

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wasn't there, so I won't go
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But him and Todd discussed it,
and he was sitting like on top of

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this weird tree structure when it happened. We're all just sitting having lunch,

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and he was probably fifty yards out
from us and we're in the middle of

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nowhere, and he felt like he
had an experience because something kept walking up

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on him. That was something,
But again I wasn't there. I can't

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substantiate any of that was kids experience, not mine. What I can't say

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is I think a day after that, and this is a little bit of

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a story. I'll try to make
it like somewhat as quick as possible.

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So when we went out there,
it was hailing on the way down so

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Todd was worried about the hail and
stuff, and he forgot to fill a

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struck up with gas. So he
has very little gas in this truck,

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and we want to use it to
go down the camp some and then go

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up to this other location. So
I'm gonna go fill my truck up just

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to make sure it doesn't around of
gas. I'm gonna leave you guys.

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Do whatever you want to do.
Logan, you know this area, Go

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hike with these guys somewhere. I'm
afraid of wane around of gas. I'm

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so the nearest gas station is I
think is an hour away from there.

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So he's gone for a bit he
leaves. I'm sitting on the outside of

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the trail, sitting there listening in
the woods, and I'm hearing some knocks,

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so it sounds like tree knocks,
licks, braddock. I can't quite

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tell what it is. I'm sous
telling the other two guys, hey,

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let's let's go over here and let's
go this way. So it's I want

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to say, it's east of the
camp. We start walking that direction.

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I have my body cam on.
We see a grouse, seas some squirrels,

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and I'm still I'm walking in that
direction of the sound I heard,

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and then I just pick up a
rock and hit the tree with its area

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is they do knocks with rocks,
like big rocks and not like wood on

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wood. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch
Odyssey. We'll be right back after these

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messages. I don't know. I
feel like it could be a combination of

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that and maybe like a mouth pop
almost like they could make it so loud

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it sounds like wood. That's my
theory. I can't prove it. But

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I hit a tree with the big
rock about the size of my hand pretty

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hard. It makes a big thud. I'm waiting and I get a response

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back. I hear right back,
and I'm like, okay, that's cool.

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And I'm like okay, I'm gonna
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like I said, I'm just wondering
in the woods. The National forests untampered

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with land old forests. There's a
line in between where his camp is,

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where the loggers and stuff haven't gone
ever because they can't they can't get there,

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but they're not supposed to log that
area. I'm walking in that direction

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and these guys they found a track
the showing it to me I'm like,

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yeah, it looks like a track. You guys can whatever, show Todd

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or whatever. Later when he gets
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I can't whistle. I didn't feel
like picking up a rock because when

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he hit a rock on a tree
can hurt your hand. I just go

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with my tongue. I tried to
allow as I can, and then I

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get a response back, and then
I'm just doing it with my tongue,

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but it sounds more like a rock. I'll just put it. I'll just

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preface that and I get back.
I both look at both the guys I'm

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with and they're like, straight face
white in the face, Oh my god,

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what is that? And they're like, all right, let's go this

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direction. So we're all pumped.
I'm walking. The other guy with me,

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he can whistle, so he's doing
like a bird whistle almost. He's

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doing it, and he's getting a
response back. He's getting a knock back

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when he whistles, and every I
don't know, ten fifteen feet I'm doing

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like a tongue pop and I'm getting
two back, or if I do it

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once, I'm getting at one back, and I'm just like, this is

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nuts. We're getting freaked out a
little bit, just because we're getting so

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much back and forth, and so
we're walking probably i'd say at least five

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minutes since the woods, probably two. I don't know, Like I've said,

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it's hard to tell on how far
it is from base camp really,

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but i'd say it three hundred yards. Maybe we're getting at the edge of

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this national forest and they're ahead of
me because in the middle of this,

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I'm like checking my bag. I'm
like, oh, my my cable for

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my my body cam. It's not
in all the way, and I'm like

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messing with it, fisioning in it, and i have a shotgun with me

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and I'm trying to make sure I
don't shoot myself in the face with a

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shotgun, so I'm putting it on. So they're ahead of me, and

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they're they're probably a hundred feet ahead
of me because I had to do that,

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and I'm yelling at them because I
keep hearing it, and I'm like,

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are you guys doing that? Are
you trying to respond back? Are

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you guys doing it? And they
won't respond to me, and I'm just

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like, Okay, I guess that
means they're not doing it, and they're

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just moving towards the sound. Okay, they're ahead of me. We split

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three ways like a rake, go
most like this, I don't know,

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like that into this old growth forest
where the trees are probably most of the

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trees are like seventy two hundred feet
tall. I can recognize a cut line

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because I've been I've been there,
I know where it is. And I'm

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like, okay, and I see
Dan I don't know, fifty feet ahead

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of me, eating underneath his tree
and he's just sitting there. And then

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his brother Matt comes up and I
finally get there. I'm like, what's

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going on. It's coming from this
tree right here. And I'm like,

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what what are you talking about?
He's like telling you, it's right up

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this tree. And then I'm looking
at this tree and I can't see the

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top of it. It's a rough
guest cement. It's eighty ninety hundred feet

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toll, and the branches don't start
till about sixty feet up at least,

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and it's I don't know, two
ft three feet wide. It's a huge

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tree. It looks like the grandfather
tree in this forest. I'm just like,

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okay, is it The tree's making
the sound or what. I don't

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know. I don't get it,
and so I'm sitting there, I'm waiting

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for it to happen again. You
just hear like it was three and then

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I was like, what the heck. So I have some of this on

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my body cam, or at least
have a good hour of it on my

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body cam, and I've got a
clip I can send you of just where

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you can hear just a random knock
from this. So we're sitting there debating

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this tree, and he's Dan's like
more or less saying, I've seen documentaries

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where old trees can make like creek
sounds, and maybe that's what it is,

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like the not expanding and like at
this point it's four o'clock in the

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afternoon, I'm just like, I
don't know. I've never heard a tree

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knock at me before. So He's
like, I'm telling you, it's gotta

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be like this tree it's just doing
that. And I'm looking at the tree

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and there's no there's something rubbing up
against him. There's a couple of little

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trees to the ride of it,
but they're not hitting the tree. It's

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not like a rub like you can
hear when the tree is kind of knocked

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with the wind, you know,
you can tell it, and this is

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like loud, just knock. And
so we're sitting on under this tree and

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we're talking, debating all this,
and you just every time we talk it

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would just interrupt us and gon and
so I'm getting annoyed and I'm just like,

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I want to climb that tree.
So I'm looking at this tree and

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I'm getting a little disheartened because Dan's
like adamant about this. It's gotta be

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just like a tree noise. It's
gotta be natural. And I'm just like,

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you could be right. I don't
know, but it sounds super suspicious.

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So I'm looking around this tree and
then we start finding all these prints

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around the tree. There's this big
fourteen fifteen inch print literally ten feet from

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00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.839
this tree. I go up another
five yards there's like smaller footprints probably I

406
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.880
don't know, let's just call it
a ten year old because it was half

407
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:21.079
to size maybe, And it's clear
the day. There's prints. We found

408
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.240
at least three different prints there.
We found where there was some deer bedded

409
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.279
down there. The weird thing is
we found an old jerry can there that

410
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.240
a bear was chewing on like offset
from the tree. We don't know where

411
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:34.759
that thing came from. There's definitely
stuff there, there's definitely activity. There's

412
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:41.319
definitely human big foot footprints, huge
footprints there. To me, it's okay,

413
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:42.440
I don't I don't know what to
do with this. It's four o'clock

414
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.480
in the afternoon. I can't see
up this tree. And then we started

415
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:49.200
joking about cloaking and stuff. I
don't know, is it cloaking up there?

416
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.079
What is it? But I can't
see the top of it. So

417
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:53.519
I'm like, all right, we'll
just call it a tree noise and move

418
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.039
on. I don't know what to
do with it. So we make a

419
00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.680
pyramid back towards the base camp at
an angle where we know we can hit

420
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.599
it and go a different direction.
And we're like, okay, anything we

421
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.680
hear from this direction south of us, we'll just call it this tree.

422
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.920
We'll try to ignore it. It
only does it as we're walking away,

423
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.400
probably a hundred feet await does it? Just a real loud one once?

424
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:18.799
One more time? And I'm just
annoyed with this. So Todd's not there,

425
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.880
he's at base count. He's nowhere
near us. The guy Dan was

426
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.559
like I thought Todd was just messing
with us, like a whole time.

427
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.039
I just think Todd's over here just
messing with us. There's no way to

428
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.880
messing with us. Like chomping through
all these trees, I can't take three

429
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.559
steps without making every single branch on
the ground just crack. It's just trees

430
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.440
fall everywhere. It's vegetation, like
just dead vegetation everywhere. I was like,

431
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:45.839
no, it's there's no way it's
Todd. We would hear him coming

432
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.640
a mile away. So we keep
going back and then we kind of circle

433
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.480
back, and then I go up
this hill and I go down it because

434
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.440
I'm trying to find the right path
back and I know there's like the gifting

435
00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.000
areas up on a hill, and
I'm on the outside of this gifting area,

436
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.599
going to go up another yell and
down. Then I find this big

437
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:06.119
footprint that's in the video he posted
with me in it. I don't know

438
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.599
if you watched it. That's where
I found that footprint, right after the

439
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.839
tree Knox. So that was pretty
cool. It was definite clear as day

440
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.119
footprint on the right of it.
You can't really see very good on video.

441
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.400
There's a bigger one beside it,
and it looks super fresh. It

442
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.720
was there. Like I said,
Todd will tell you this if you talked

443
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.559
to him, but he goes off. If it's fourteen inches, it's probably

444
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.920
more of a fourteen year old fifteen
inches, it's fifteen year old. That's

445
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.519
his speculation. That's not science,
but that's what he thinks. So he's

446
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.880
more or less thinking that's what it
is. So we go back to base

447
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.880
camp, Todd sitting there. Basically
he just got back. He was sitting

448
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.440
there, yea had his Sally system
going out. Think he's talking on the

449
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.880
phone to someone, and we were
telling him what we found and stuff.

450
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.319
He's, oh, okay, let's
go out there and look at the track

451
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.640
or whatever. So we go and
that's when we do the whole video for

452
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:57.200
the track, and I'm trying to
tell him right before he's shooting the video,

453
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.480
and I was like trying to tell
him about the tree Knox and stuff,

454
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.880
and He's looking at me. These
trees don't knock back at you,

455
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:07.920
right, And I'm like, I
get that, but I don't know what

456
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.160
that means anywhere. I'm like halfway
in the middle of disheartened and halfway I

457
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.359
don't know what the hell that was, and we end up going back to

458
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.880
base camp. We didn't have a
lot of activity at night anyway. We

459
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.319
end up going back to this tree
the next day and doing a video on

460
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:27.039
it, and it wasn't making sounds. Of course, it wasn't doing anything.

461
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:30.960
It's just a tree, right,
and we're just openly discussing what is

462
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.799
this? What could it be?
He's you got three things you're knocking.

463
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:40.079
It's knocking back at you. You
follow the sound to the tree, Okay,

464
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:41.119
you get to the tree, it's
still knocking at you. And when

465
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.400
you get to the tree, this
footprints all around it. He's only like,

466
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.519
how much more evidence do you guys
need? And I'm like, it's

467
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.880
the valid point. I just wish
I would have stood under that tree for

468
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.599
a lot longer and to see if
you know, something came down, or

469
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.319
hey, let's put like a recorder
here or something, because again, nothing

470
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.200
gets the The guy with Dan like
that's I've seen this on a YouTube video

471
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.640
where these things can do this,
And I'm just like, okay, like

472
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:10.039
I'll just take your words for it. So of course Todd's kinda's kind of

473
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:11.599
thinking the son of a bitch,
like why didn't we sit here longer?

474
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.000
And then Dan's when he gets internet
in the satellite, He's trying to find

475
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.039
this video for hours. I know
it's there. He's like, can't find

476
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.680
it. There's evidence of something like
this, and like when it's like dead

477
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:27.319
winner and it doesn't quite sound like
that. And then there's some kind of

478
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.200
I don't remember some animal squirrel or
owl or something that makes that sound.

479
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.039
I don't remember what it was,
but it didn't really sound like that.

480
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.039
And then Dan has some video of
it, and then I have the body

481
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.559
camp footage of it just sounds like
a large, a loud knock. My

482
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:47.960
body camp is not really built for
like sound. It's more visual truly,

483
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.119
built off a car dash camp.
So there's sound on that, but you

484
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.759
can't hear the magnitude of the sound, if that makes sense. So you

485
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.200
can hear the hit if I send
you the video, you can hear it

486
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.559
and everything, but like you're not
going to feel the actual sound that we

487
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.799
heard. That's the best as I
can explain it. If you're like,

488
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.119
oh, that just sounds like nothing, like it's definitely there, it's just

489
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.680
weird. On the dash cam video. That was really cool. It made

490
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.759
me think harder on it, and
I really wish I would have done more

491
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.480
investigation there. I really don't know
why I didn't. But it was four

492
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.640
o'clock, were yet and Hungary.
It was hot, and again there was

493
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.519
no wind on this tree. There
was just the summer day, no wind,

494
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.519
blue guy, nothing. There was
a tree break pretty fairly close to

495
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.920
as well. It was older though
it didn't look like new wood, would

496
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.640
look like old wood. But to
me, it was really cool experience.

497
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.559
And I really do think him back
on I really think it was something I

498
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.279
can't duly tell you. Todd would
tell you there's definitely something up that tree's

499
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.240
He was more or less telling me
that he tried to film one of these

500
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.839
things up a tree once and he
said it took him hours. He couldn't

501
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.920
find it. He said he couldn't
find it until he turned the whatever,

502
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.279
the body heat whatever it is,
what is it called, I'm losing my

503
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.119
word. The infrared, Yeah,
I get fred, but it's yeah,

504
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.359
body heat camera. He'd actually it
was like clearsday in front of him,

505
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.720
is like he this thing was eight
feet tall, is right in front of

506
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.119
me. I could see it on
the tree. But I took this thing

507
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.279
off and it blended so perfectly.
He was more or less there was probably

508
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.240
like a smaller bigfoot up that tree, and he was totally messing with you

509
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:26.559
guys. So again, regrets,
but cool experience. The other thing that

510
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.839
was really cool that happened to me
so the whole time. I'll get to

511
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.119
this in a second. So we
go out at night, and I don't

512
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.640
know I would if you go out
there, I would recommend it for you.

513
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.519
We go at night and pitch black
and we just carry basically stuff to

514
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.599
protect us and no lights and we
don't turn any lights on, and we

515
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.599
just walked these trails and it's pitch
black. You can see the stars.

516
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.599
Stars don't come out till like eleven, really, honestly, if they don't

517
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.039
get really super clear and pretty until
twelve. So we'd go out and just

518
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.200
go mile or two down these trails
and they just sit and talk. And

519
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.279
like I said, Todd, I
might have mentioned four, but he's really

520
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:08.960
getting into more spirituality and the mind
speak and trying to be more in tune

521
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:14.000
with like different aspects of reality.
Let's put it that way. So sit

522
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:15.920
and meditate and just think, hey, we're here, come and play with

523
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.079
us to put it in the short
term like words, but we would do

524
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.440
that. We did that a few
times, but the second time we did

525
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.400
it as we were walking back.
I mean, this is one o'clock in

526
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.920
the morning. I would press is
that if someone's out in these woods and

527
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.799
the pitch black at one o'clock in
the morning, Brian, they're freaking nuts,

528
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.240
because that's not something you want to
do alone. Let's put it that

529
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.559
way, Like, I mean,
you can see someone with a light on

530
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.960
out there, like I'm sure at
some point, but like it's crazy,

531
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:46.799
and we're walking back and Todd just
look and he's just, you know,

532
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:51.480
I feel like there's something over here
on the left of us. And I'm

533
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.119
just like, okay, that's cool. We'll see. So we get really

534
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.240
close to base camp on this trail
and he just stops and he's like,

535
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.640
I really like there's something over here. I'm gonna ask out loud. I

536
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.480
really think there's something in these woods. I'm gonna ask out loud if it'll

537
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:07.680
do a knock for us. I
was like, okay, cool, whatever

538
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.559
whatever floats about, they'll see.
As I'm sitting there, and he's all

539
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.920
right, give us two knocks and
you just hearnock, and I a'most like,

540
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:20.039
come on, like, how is
this possible? Come on? So

541
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.079
I almost like, okay, you
got my attention. So I'm sitting there

542
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:27.960
with one of the other guys.
I'm sitting on the ground just listening,

543
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.480
and again it's pitch black. We
don't have any lights on, and he's

544
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.359
okay, I'm gonna ask for one
more. So this time I'm gonna say,

545
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.440
do one knock if you want us
to come into the woods with you,

546
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.319
And so he says it real low, not loud at all. I

547
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:45.519
could barely hear him say it.
And then you just hear knock, and

548
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.680
it's at a totally different location.
This one seemed further out. This one

549
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.119
seems more out and close to us, to our left. I'm just like,

550
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.039
this is nuts, okay. And
then I go to the tree line

551
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.799
where him and this other guy are
and you can hear some movement in there,

552
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:00.440
right, You're like they're both kind
of freaking out, like, oh

553
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.240
my god, it's like, right, there's what do you guys want to

554
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.359
do. I'm like, we came
here see big Foot, let's go in

555
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:13.000
the woods. So okay, So
we walked down adjacent about ten feet and

556
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.119
go in and I'm getting hit by
branches. I can't see nothing. You

557
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.159
ever try to walk in the woods
in the dark, pitch black, It

558
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.639
doesn't work out for you. So
we're walking in the woods now, it's

559
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:27.159
probably one thirty in the morning,
pitch black, and we walk in about

560
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.960
I don't know, fifteen hundred feet
into the woods and we just sit there

561
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.800
and he's more or less like I
said, he's into mind speak stuff.

562
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:42.239
He's trying to do different types of
call it telepathy, whatever you want to

563
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.119
call it, just trying to talk
in his head and communicate with these beings.

564
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.320
And I'm just gonna see if there's
something they want us to do.

565
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.840
We're here, come on, come
out, We're ready. We hear some

566
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.480
more stuff, movement coming towards us. We hear another knock, we hear

567
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.760
something behind us that's like they're in
front of us, they're behind us,

568
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:05.840
and I'm just more or less okay, let's something happened here. Come on.

569
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.079
It's freaking me out a bit,
and we just sit there. I

570
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:12.280
think they're more or less shocked that
we came in the woods and did this.

571
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.639
I don't know if they know what
to do, and he's what do

572
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.000
you guys want to do? We
can sit here where we can it's five

573
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.880
two in the morning. We can
sit here for a long time. We

574
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.199
can go back and go to sleep. If we push them too hard,

575
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.119
I don't know if they'll come back. I don't know. I have no

576
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.880
idea what to do with this.
I was like, all right, whatever,

577
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:30.480
we'll just go back. We haven't
heard anything for ten minutes. Let's

578
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.320
go back. So we go back. I'll go back into the camper.

579
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.880
So I have a window in this
camper and I'm looking out the camper and

580
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:44.079
I'm trying to visualize what's outside because
it's just basically it's you can see shadows

581
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.679
and a little bit of tree and
not a lot. I can see what

582
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.599
the top of the trees are,
and I'm looking over the trees and I

583
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.440
can't sleep because I'm hyped up from
all this experience. I'm looking over the

584
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:58.639
trees and I see I don't know
it was a flash, but I see

585
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.800
it flashed light over the trees,
and it's not like a meteor comment It's

586
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.280
like a bulb flash. Like I'm
an old camera. It's boom, and

587
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.559
I'm just like Okay, I know
I saw that everyone else is snore in

588
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.920
their butts off else snore like bears
in there, and I'm just like,

589
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.039
I don't know what that was.
That's crazy. I think I see movement

590
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.119
out there, but it's so dark
I can't tell what's the shadow what's not.

591
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.360
I eventually fall asleep. It's probably
three or four in the morning,

592
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.880
and that was that. But I
did see a weird light. I didn't

593
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.639
see an orb or movement, but
I did see a flash of light above

594
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.679
the tree line that I couldn't explain. That's all I saw, perfectly,

595
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.119
honest. That's all I could see
was a boom and it was done.

596
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:38.840
I don't know. It was weird
to me seeing that light and having that

597
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:44.320
all that experience, and then the
whole time I'm out there with Todd,

598
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.320
I'm trying to have my own experience
and go off by myself and camp in

599
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.039
the woods on my own, because
I feel like maybe I should just do

600
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.840
that on my own and see if
I get more activity just being alone.

601
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:59.679
This is probably second or third day
before we leave. When we go in

602
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.360
high I'm trying to look for a
spot that would be good because I just

603
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:06.159
brought like a sleeping bag, and
I don't care about sleep. I'll sleep

604
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.920
on the ground wherever. They don't
care. But it ends up raining good

605
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.480
night, and I don't really don't
want to sleep in the wet outside while

606
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.599
it's raining. It rains off,
and on the last few days we're there,

607
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:20.960
I was like, ah, okay, I'm just gonna sleep outside by

608
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.199
the fire. And the fire's twenty
feet from the RV. But it still

609
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:29.440
seems like forever at night if you're
by yourself, when you're out there alone,

610
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.280
it still seems kind of creepy,
to be honest with you. So

611
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:34.639
most people when they come out,
they don't sleep outside. They sleep in

612
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.760
the RV, just because it feels
safer. We have good night out there.

613
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.400
We're talking around the campfire. You
know, nothing's happening. Canna get

614
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.119
entire. It's like eleven thirty.
I'm like, come on, Todd,

615
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.199
nun's happened out here. I'll go. I'll give you the biggest bonus if

616
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.719
you can get something to come out
here. Just makes something happen. And

617
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.239
he's, okay, let me try
something. So I have this on video.

618
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.840
It's pretty funny. He goes out
there with this. It's comical but

619
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.880
also pretty cool at the same time. He literally pulls this bluetooth speaker out

620
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.760
that kind of lights up, and
he starts walking down the trail and he's

621
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.159
playing that old Indian song. It's
from the nineties, so he starts playing

622
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.599
that full blast, walking out jails, singing and screaming. He's just trying

623
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.039
to draw with something to the camp. The other guys go out there,

624
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:20.679
we have to walk behind them and
get into the spirit of things, and

625
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.760
I record that. It's funny.
And then later on night, you know,

626
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.840
they caught it and Matt turning.
They go to the RV. Dan

627
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.719
couldn't sleep. I'm just gonna say
it with you if that's okay, because

628
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.599
he knows I kind of jump up
be out by myself. It rained a

629
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.559
little bit earlier, off and on
the clouds were dissipating a little bit.

630
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:42.239
I'm by the fire. It's probably
two o'clock at night. Todd's like,

631
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.920
I'll see you in the morning.
He's I don't think you're gonna make it

632
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:46.400
out here. I think you're coming
in. I's like, all right,

633
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:51.119
we'll see Bud. And then Dan's
out there with me and he can't sleep,

634
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.119
So he's he likes to play with
the wood and kind of whiddle it

635
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.519
with a knife. He's out there
woodling it with a knife, and I'm

636
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.760
just in and out of a sleep
and awake. And I wake up.

637
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:02.960
And I don't know what time it
is till later, but I'll tell you

638
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.519
what time it was. It was
probably about four thirty in the morning.

639
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.679
And I look at Dan and he's
passed out in this chair by the fire

640
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.840
like this like snore and his head
off, and I'm just like, okay,

641
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.679
you didn't even know he passed out
here. So that's funny. So

642
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.960
it puts me at ease a little
bit because there's someone out there with me.

643
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:20.679
But at the same time, I'm
like, god, whatever, I'm

644
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.840
not gonna wake him up. And
then about five minutes later, I hear

645
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.480
him getting up, and he's getting
up, he's looking at me. He

646
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:28.519
puts another piece of wood on the
fire for him. He's like, all

647
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.920
right, good night. He goes
inside. He later on in the morning

648
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.159
he tells me he gets up because
he's here and like movement behind him and

649
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.039
it's freaking him out. I'm like, thanks for letting me know. So

650
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.119
at this point, it's four forty
five in the morning, and where we

651
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.719
are in the mountains. I didn't
know this because I don't live in the

652
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.880
mountains obviously, But like I said, it doesn't get a hitch black dark

653
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.000
till twelve o'clock at this time of
the year, and the sun comes up

654
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:57.440
right after five am, but it's
really five hours of darkness. Stay tuned

655
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:02.679
for more Sasquatch Odyssey. We'll be
right back after the these messages. I

656
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:07.320
didn't know that because I've been sleeping
until at least seven seven thirty. I

657
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.480
wake up a little bit and i
can see the blue glow of the sunrise,

658
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:14.840
just a tiny bit, and I'm
like, oh, Okay, the

659
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.480
sun's fixing to come up, and
I don't have to be as freaked out.

660
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.679
Sun's gonna be up. I can
get better rest. I'm just gonna

661
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.320
get some sleep now. As I'm
saying that in my head, I'm literally

662
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.199
talking to myself, and I'm at
a kind of an angle like this,

663
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:32.599
I might probably like a one degree
angle. It's not super big by the

664
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.400
fire, and i roll over on
my back and I'm thinking i can sleep

665
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.039
now as I'm doing that, and
again, it's right. It almost dawn.

666
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.519
I just hear two footsteps right beside
me jump backwards, and I'm like,

667
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:52.159
what the hell. I'm like fully
awake at this point. My heart's

668
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.760
beat out of my chest. Whatever
it was like. I was faced towards

669
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.000
the fire on my right and I
rolled back on my back. Whatever it

670
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.119
was right five feet behind me watching
me. I didn't know I was going

671
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.559
to roll over. When I rolled
over, it jumped backwards. I could

672
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.119
hear both feet hit the ground,
and it's sitting there and I have my

673
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.519
left eye clothes am I right kind
of open where I can see the glow

674
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.880
of the sun trying to come up, And I'm like thinking in my head,

675
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:20.400
okay, i gotta get my heart
to stop beating so fast because I'm

676
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.199
pretty sure this thing can hear it. I'm just like, oh my god,

677
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.000
what do I do here? Because
it's almost like I could hear it

678
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:29.159
breathing beside me. I can't say
that I did, but I felt like

679
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.000
it was so close to me because
of the footsteps, and I'm like,

680
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.159
all right, I gotta come down. I'm going through different scenarios in my

681
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.079
head here, Okay, come out
here. But like I said, I'm

682
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.519
at an angle a little bit.
For me to fully roll over to my

683
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.480
left, I have to move my
entire body over. It's not like a

684
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.719
quick movement. And I'm like,
if I do that, it's this thing

685
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.320
going to kick me in the face. Does it know that I'm not really

686
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.760
asleep? Is it gonna scream at
me? I don't know what to do

687
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:55.599
at this point, so I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna calm

688
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.239
down and then I'm gonna wait.
And I'm trying to open my left die

689
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:01.239
and I'm like, I can't do
it. If I open this eye and

690
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.719
maybe I can see something in my
peripheral and I just can't do it.

691
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:07.400
I had my right eye open,
and I'm like, okay, I'm just

692
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.360
gonna wait and see if I hear
it walking by me and just make sure

693
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.639
I'm not crazy. And I definitely
heard it, and I'm sitting there.

694
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.440
Probably a minute and a half goes
by and I just hear two feet fall.

695
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.000
At this point, it's circling by
my head even closer to me.

696
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.159
Heart's going again. I'm like,
what do I do here? Until you're

697
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.159
in that moment, you can hear
me say that, and you're like,

698
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.639
I just would have got up and
looked at it and yelled at it.

699
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.400
That's not how it goes. And
then in the middle of it was when

700
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.840
something's right beside you and has a
total advantage standing over you, it's more

701
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.639
or less all right. It's freaking
out a bit. So I'm like,

702
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.159
okay, I gotta come down.
I gotta look at this thing. Then

703
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.079
I can see the sun's coming out
a little bit more. Every time I'm

704
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.480
glancing, I can see you get
a little brighter. I'm like, okay,

705
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.440
my heart's calmed down. And then
right as my heart would stop,

706
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:55.159
it would start walking again, right
with shied of me. I don't know

707
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.360
if it knew if I was awake
or not, but it was hince when

708
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.559
my heart would stop being So if
that's the when and move and I'm just

709
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:05.400
like, okay, I've got to
formulate a plan to look at this because

710
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.360
it's really aggravating. Because I need
to do this. Like I said,

711
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:12.840
I can't roll to my left directly
without just like boom and like my whole

712
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.719
body going right. So I rolled
back towards my right, towards the fire.

713
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.239
I'm like, this is what I'm
gonna do. I'm gonna roll to

714
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.440
the fire. I'm gonna click.
I'm just like waking up right, and

715
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.079
then I'm gonna try to cock my
head over my shoulder as fast as I

716
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.800
can and see if if this thing's
still there. So this is five minutes

717
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.800
of me here in movement and footsteps
around me, And again I can hear

718
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.840
all three of the guys in the
RV. They're like snore and like crazy

719
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.119
like bears in there. They snore
so loud. So I rolled towards the

720
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.079
fire and I caught my head back. I look over and it's not there's

721
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.760
nothing there. Okay, that's weird. I don't understand where it would go.

722
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.679
Like when you get there, Brian, when you go out, you'll

723
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.599
know where this campfire is, You'll
know where the woods are. To get

724
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:59.559
to the main wooded there would be
I don't know, fifty feet of walking.

725
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.360
Really, you'd have to walk fifty
feet in any direction to get to

726
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:07.079
real cover. I didn't hear it
walking anywhere, but I will say the

727
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.840
footfalls, the steps were so quiet, I could barely hear them, like

728
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:15.400
when it was walking around me.
It was so soft. I really thought,

729
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.960
and this is just speculation. Really, it just felt like more of

730
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:23.000
a feminine energy or like kid energy, not like a big dominant male.

731
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:28.079
I just feel like it wasn't I
could be wrong. That's when I got

732
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.360
the presence of it was that type
of energy, but it was super crazy.

733
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:36.840
Until you're in that moment, you'll
you just can't comprehend, like what

734
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.199
you're going to do, and it
wasnt. I got up and I walked

735
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.320
around. I looked on the ground
for footprints, because like I said,

736
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.880
it rained them that night. I
was like, maybe it'll be some kind

737
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.159
of footprint. There was nothing like
looked everywhere at this point. In six

738
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.960
in the morning, I look at
my phone at six, I'm like,

739
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.760
I don't understand that. It's so
bright. It's only six, Like when

740
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.000
does the son come out of out
here? And then at that point someone

741
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.039
came out to use the bathroom room
and he was dead asleep. I don't

742
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.280
even telling me anything. He's one
of the battomom back inside and went to

743
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.519
bed, and I was like,
all right, I'll tell him later.

744
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.360
So I walk around and I start
I can't go to sleep at this point.

745
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:13.440
So I'm just sitting by the fire
and I'm walking around and I'm looking

746
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:19.440
for stuff. I walked some trails. I had put some blue tennis balls

747
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:23.280
out because I've again listening to shows
like Yours Attracted to Blue, attracted to

748
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:28.599
play. I'm trying to do different
stuff that I've done before. They weren't

749
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.159
moved, they never touched the tennis
balls. But yeah, I ended up

750
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:36.159
just going in the RV and going
to sleep for an hour, and then

751
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:37.639
Todd was like, how was your
night? And I started talking. He's

752
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.079
like, what that happened? And
I was like yeah, like it was

753
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.559
crazy, and so we did a
whole video remake of it. And Todd

754
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.079
lags on putting stuff out on his
page, but you'll probably at some point

755
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.679
to see me sell this story on
his YouTube channel. But it was nuts,

756
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:59.480
Like it's definitely like life changing,
Like I still I guess I'll hear

757
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.719
those flops friends. It was it
was crazy, like that was really my

758
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.079
big experience. And so if you
do go out, I'd say it's worth

759
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.719
it to try to go out there
and spend some time alone. It feels

760
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:16.239
like they come out more when you're
by yourself. Todd's girlfriend actually she goes

761
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:20.519
out there by herself and she seems
to get a lot of activity. Like

762
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.239
when we were out there, she
put some stuff out for gifting. She

763
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:29.079
put a marble out about the size
of a half dollar on this tree that's

764
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.679
laid over close pretty close to our
v actually, and it took the marble.

765
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.519
It wasn't a squirrel that took out
or anything. It was definitely big

766
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.360
enough to where a squirrel would have
a hard time with this marble. And

767
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:42.840
they was gone the next day.
But then again and they didn't need it

768
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.519
in the apples we put out.
I don't know. I think they're they've

769
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.360
had some kind of individualistic personality where
they just pick and whatever they want to

770
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.079
do, and they're like, yah, I'm not gonna take your apples,

771
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:53.840
but oh yeah, take the marble. And she's put out other stuff.

772
00:46:53.880 --> 00:47:00.079
And she had other experiences while we
were there out because she didn't feel and

773
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.280
like she was out of her car
and we were out hiking and we were

774
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.360
trying to come back so Todd could
tell her by because she had to leave,

775
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.880
and like before she left, like
she was out in her car and

776
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.280
she said this is her I wasn't
there. I'm just telling you what she

777
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.400
told me that when she was funnished
up in her car. She heard someone

778
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.880
say hey, and Todd, he'll
come up behind you say hey, like

779
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.199
just the mess with you, and
she thought it was Todd. She looked

780
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.800
around, nobody's there and she said
that it mid mimicked his voice and said

781
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.280
hey. And then they started making
sounds and beating on the trees, and

782
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.199
she said she was clapping back,
and they were hitting the trees back and

783
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:40.039
like basically doing everything they can to
like communicate with her. So she has

784
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.559
a lot of good energy and a
good experiences out there. But yeah,

785
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:51.519
I didn't get the same amount.
But like I said, it was super

786
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.079
cool to me, even though I
didn't visually see it. I feel like

787
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.880
I could have if I could,
just would have done it quicker. But

788
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.800
again we were listen to this and
say oh that guys, you know I

789
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.679
would have done it. No big
deal. Like I said, you go

790
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.039
out there and you try it,
and if you do it, you know

791
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.960
you're a bigger man than me.
The overall the experience, so that beauty

792
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.760
to place all the evidence around there. There's tons of tree breaks, There's

793
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.960
tons of like I said, I
found footprints. They all found their own

794
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.639
sets of footprints. We found new
breaks, We actually found breaks there where

795
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:27.880
you could see the intention from the
fingers, like these four figures, there

796
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.920
are four main fingers. You can
see where they're pushed so hard into some

797
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.920
of those trees that it makes intentions
when they're breaking it. Which is crazy

798
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.719
because Todd didn't even notice it on
some of this stuff. Like so other

799
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.760
people said, hey, do you
see this, those are like handprints on

800
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.559
these trees. He's like, oh, okay, I've never even seen that

801
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:49.039
before. So he's looking for more
of like handprints now because he almost had

802
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.000
the aspect that they were somehow doing
this with some kind of energy because it's

803
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:53.480
too hard to break these trees.
But maybe they're not. Maybe they really

804
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.159
are using their hands. I don't
know. But yeah, that was that

805
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.159
expedition. That was pretty much my
bull experience. I wanted to stay out

806
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.480
there, and like I tried to
sleep out there the last night by myself,

807
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:08.159
and it started pouring literally underneath my
thing, like pouring water on me.

808
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:09.599
For an hour and a half.
I'm like, all right, I

809
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gotta go inside. This isn't gonna
give me anything. So luck of the

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job. But it was great.
I enjoyed it. I got what I

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thought I needed, and I would
go back out there again, but I

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would probably spend more time, like
I said, alone, at least a

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few nights trying to draw out something
even though it's super freaky at night,

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and being by yourself like I would
do it. That would be my recommendation

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for you. I will definitely give
that a try. Man. I really

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appreciate you coming on and sharing your
experiences. It's always good to talk to

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you, and I appreciate you being
a part of me getting up there.

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You were an integral part of that. So from me to you, I

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appreciate what you've done and I appreciate
the information. It definitely helps me going

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into it, and I think it
gives people another perspective to look at Todd

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and those expeditions from And I'll luckily
come back with my own in October,

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so I'm really looking forward to it. But again, I appreciate you coming

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on and sharing your stories with us. Ma'am, no problem. It's great.

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Show's awesome. They say you don't
gotta go home, but you can't

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stay. I don't want to feel
we're all out that. I'm trying to

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try to try everything. Color back
Ride Baby Joy for me, try to

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stay right now. I'm coming right
away, said yessssss ssidi ssbot bout Boot

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for calling us, say James and