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the Ocelli effect, but it is live here on a Sunday just after nine
pm Eastern in what we used to call the USA. My co host for
this one is missus O and she is going to keep it interesting as we
go through the themed show for news for the week, the week that was,
the week that might be the week that is. I don't know,
but here we go anyway, hopefully you'll enjoy this one, I think so.
I'm not sure if it should be titled Crime and Punishment, Law and
order, disorderly conduct. I don't know. I don't want to get into
a Fat Boys kind of theme here, anybody remember them. It's not going
to be nostalgia though. It's going to be slightly more current events. And
we'll kick off the theme without telling you too much about it and get into
a quick segment here. And I'm like, I say, playing these things
live, so we'll see how it goes. Well, there's this thing out
there, the Ruby Frankie situation, the YouTube mom, What in the hell
is going on? Is it a case again of the state overstepping its bounds?
Is it that, you know, the Internet world of media makes people
crazy? Could it be making us crazy, missus O here in the o'chelly
house, Because after all, we're part of the Internet content creator ecosphere,
sort of not quite as big as this YouTube momb or anything. But we
are there. Are we crazy yet? Missus O? Getting there, getting
there, getting there on our way? So before, yes, before I
give people a taste of the Ruby Frankie case in case they haven't heard of
it anything, you want to say about this real fast, about this taste.
It's it's just if what they're saying is true, it's it's pretty scary
that these people were watching her on the internet and her channel and didn't intervene.
See that could be a theme for a future show when people see crazy
things on the Internet and don't intervene. Whether it's the guy who's telling you
he's going to go shoot things up, or it's this, or it's the
guy who's clearly signaling that he's some kind of petterist. I mean, people
signal stuff on time on the social media, antisocial platforms of all sorts,
all day long, and yet a lot of people don't take any sort of
action. They don't seek to intervene or anything kill something bad happens a lot
of times. Right. Well, I'm not one of those who want to
get involved with other people's business and how they raise their children or anything like
that, but I will say if there is obvious signs of abuse of a
child, I will more than my step in. Understood that Chile can't defend
themselves, right understood, But you know there's a line there, and there's
a difficulty because now you're stuck with well, do you intervene or do you
call the authorities? Or what do you do? It becomes a problem.
Anyway, Let's take a little study from just some of the available clips,
and I believe we have one. Let's say it says the top six disturbing
revelations from YouTube mom Ruby Frankie's arrest. It's from the Law on Crime video
channel. So you and I are just going to sit back here and take
a listen to what it is they have to say. Are the top six
disturbing revelations from YouTube mom Ruby Frankie's Arrest. May not play the whole video,
folks, but I'm going to give you a sample of it, and
the links to all this stuff will be in the show notes for the Sunday
Sloper News. So here we go back into the Ruby Frankie case out of
Utah. Just this absolutely disturbing story of a forty one year old wife and
mother of six who has now been charged with child abuse. In fact,
she has been officially charged with six counts of aggravated child abuse. Now that
name Ruby Frankie may sound familiar because Frankie was a popular YouTuber. Yeah,
she and her husband they launched this YouTube channel called eight Passengers back in twenty
fifteen. It was all about the couple and their children and their lives.
Very popular, I believe it had over two million subscribers. The focused on
parenting and homeschooling, and it was interesting because Frankie and her husband are members
of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints and she also appeared on
videos with her business partner, Jody Hildebrandt, who founded a life counseling organization
known as Connections, previously known as Moms of Truth. Here's a snippet,
welcome back to Connections. I'm Ruby, Frankie, I'm Jody hildebrand And today
is part three of a series that we are doing all about empowering you as
parents. You are not going to get this kind of empowerment. You're not
going to give this kind of permission anywhere else. And so today we are
going to be talking about where we left off, which is am I a
controlling parent? Am I a hovering helicopter parent? Am I a Karen?
Those are terms that have been put out there by people who are fearful of
control. If you have a perception, you know my son comes home and
says, so and so is bullying me. And I am a parent that
I don't know about principles of truth. I may go to thig and you
know what, I'm starting to get the picture here, And already YouTube has
dropped in a commercial into the video, so you know, maybe we'll just
stop with that. You get an idea though, that these are independent people
saying take control of your children's lives. Mostly what more conservative parenting commentators out
there, and I do mean people that just want to comment on everybody else's
parenting. What do they say, Hey, look, you know parents need
to take more control, more responsibility. Uh does it work? Are you
a Karen in this way? Are you with this? Are you with that?
Lots of common Internet stuff. But look, at the end of the
day, I think that the media is already taking this case and trying to
utilize it to what demonize people that you know, are homeschooling, are taking
control of their children's lives. They're taking responsibility for lots of this stuff.
And what the media does with the case is not necessarily what the court will
do with the case. But anyway, we're going to get into a lot
more of that stuff. And this is what are your what are your thoughts
about? You know, what's gone on with this legally so far? Are
you aware of the progress of the court case? Because true crime, law
and order that this is a primary, a big time function of the well
of the internet media sphere anyway, I mean true crime and Internet criminal justice
of sorts. I mean, that's that's a big money maker out there.
I mean it's huge. Everybody's watching this stuff. So what do you think.
Is this going to be all about the way it's tried in the media
or are people going to remember this case for a long time or is it
just going to disappear down the memory hole like most things after people demonize the
selected groups they want to Well, I think depending on what she's actually found
guilty of, it will depend how long it lasts in the media. I
think it might. I'm hoping it might wake up some people to not put
your children on social media like this. I mean, they're being put up
there for click. Well, you and I talk about this all the time,
the way that people commoditize and monetize their children. Some of them do
it with sympathy bait, some of them do it, you know, in
order to really survive, to make a living because their time is so devoted
to the child because they're handicapped in some way, so they put their handicapped
piled up online. You know. Others turn it into a family business,
like of course, the very very famous Ryan's toy shows and all that kind
of stuff where the whole family got in on the act, right, you
know. So there's lots of different ways this goes. But I at every
point, you know, what is my consistent concern. It's like, well,
what about the morality of making your children? You know, It's sort
of like if I wanted to give Frankie his own radio show right now,
I could do that. I could, and I don't know, maybe some
people listen to it if I coach him and help him. I mean,
Alex Jones at one point brought on one of his kids at the age of
like ten, and it didn't go really successful. But but maybe there's a
way to make that viral and make that market and who knows, maybe Frankie
could be the most popular talk radio kid ever, you know, just all
of a sudden, maybe they'll start sending him free toys and ask him to
promote stuff. You know, the junior survivors kids. I don't know what
depends on what he says, you know, but I always I always reflect
on the ethical ramifications of that, and that's something that I think always has
to be considered here. See, it's not just about what the court does
and what the media does, But how about the ethical concerns, How about
the real world concerns of this crap anyway, it's not all about the Internet
world. Although the first case that we're going to focus on here, because
believe it or not, Internet mom is not the focus of the show.
Well no, but get me just for the listener, just in case they
don't know. How this woman and her business partner got caught is the twelve
year old son was staying at the other woman's home, the Hilda Brance.
Then he escaped out of a window and ran to a neighbor's house. He
had death tape on his ankles and his wrists, and he was emaciated and
darsty, and he asked the neighbor Christian food and some water. And you
know, ultimately that's what led to the discovery of what was going on here.
Wow. So at the business partner's house, one of the kids escapes.
Interesting turn of phrase there escapes and is tied together with duct tape looking
for some food and water. And that does remind me of an earlier internet
case about five years ago. I think it was one of these very popular
family game channels. They took it all away. I think it's all been
scrubbed from the Internet for the most part, but there was a popular family
gaming channel where it was discovered that the parents were like withholding food from the
kids if they didn't perform on videos and all kinds of stuff. It gets
very very weird. It sounds to me like you can be a Hollywood parent
nowadays without having to go to Hollywood and wreck your child star's life as you're
creating your child's star online all do it yourself at home anymore. Huh right.
Yeah. So look, I'm not saying I'm on her side. I'm
not saying I'm on anybody's side here. What I'm saying is I think we
should consider all sides of this and hopefully the legal the legal system. The
legal system. Is it lawful? Is it really legal? Well, your
experiences may vary, but what they decide to do with it, and what
the media does with it could be entirely different things. Anyway, let's turn
our focus to the first major case so we don't spend too much time on
these sidebars. The thing is last, well, when did the Murdock case
kick off? Tell us about the Murdoch or Murdoch case, right, involving
a family, a guy who's going broke and apparently, you know, can't
afford things and is ripping off people making insurance claims. At some point,
maybe a housekeeper died, I mean weird stuff. No, no, no,
that was a different case, the housekeeper. Sorry, no, there
was a mother and son that died and and this guy goes on trial for
murder. Tell us about how that case was. You know, when did
that start? What should we be aware of there? With the low Country
case there in South Carolina, which is the low hanging fruit here, because
pretty much of you served the Internet in the past year, you saw something
about the Murdock case. So tell us a little bit about that. Well,
that was the attorney from Mina who's his family basically monopolized the court system
for well over a hundred years between his grandfather and then his father than himself.
We're all involved with that part of the I can't remember what position he
held. I should have looked that up first, so I apologized, But
basically he Alec Murdoch is serving two my sentences for murdering his wife and his
youngest son. And they're saying that it's because he was sealing money from the
clients, that he was winning cases for it, we helped funds his were
saying, prescription drug addiction, you have to have one heck of an addiction
to be stealing millions of dollars for your your percoset. Well, you know,
I guess it does depend on how heavy your percoset addiction is. I
suppose. I mean it's easy to spend hundreds of dollars per day that will
add up. I guess it could well. And let's let's just pause here
for a second, because there's a lot to this. You're talking about the
local solicitor, and when you said they monopolize the court system, well it
goes a little further than that. They seem to have an influence on a
local level. U. They were one of those powerful families locally. If
you think hard to a place where you grew up, not just you,
missus, obe, anybody listening you could probably remember a powerful family that had
political influence and had a lot of money in the town that was treated differently.
This is like the exemplar of that in this little patch of South Carolina.
That was the state, right, I say, that was the state
where they wielded all this influence. And this guy was a prominent lawyer and
the son and grandson of prominent lawyers. So this is the continuation over generations.
Indeed, looking to hand things off to his kids. It looked like
until yeah, he hit a snag here, Matt nasty drug addiction, he's
going broke, he's trying to, you know, keep the lid on all
of that. And then there's well, this thing gets crazy because there's an
alleged suicide attempt where he hired a guy to shoot him. I mean,
it's just wild stuff. And anyway, let's play part of the clip for
it, just to familiarize people. And I've got more than one clip for
this, but I think we'll with for the sake of time, just this
exclusive one because just this week again now he's been convicted, but we have
an allegation of jury tampering, now not by the defendant but by the defense
and making the allegation against who the clerk of the court, right, and
what was her name again, Rebecca Hill? Becky Hill, Yeah, Rebecca
or but you know, I see Becky Hill everywhere. I'm assuming she likes
to be called Becky by all counts, nice lady and everything, but she
may have had undue influence on the jury. So with that, we're gonna
go too ready for this one the Today Show and get a bit of a
yeah the Today Show on YouTube's clip, And again, I won't be playing
the whole thing, although I could. It's only two minutes and something long,
and I think I might have snipped off the very beginning of it.
But let's go to it and see what it is they tell us about the
latest developments in the Murdauds trial. And by the way, there's been multiple
documentaries produced by this, I think one on Netflix, one on HBO,
Max or max now, all these different places all about it, headline news.
It was a big, big deal. So again from NBC's Today Show,
here's how they reported on it. Let's see what day four days ago,
only as it is, we're well, let's see, we're on the
tenth day of September twenty twenty three, so four days ago would have been
the sixth day of September. And this is what they had to say on
the Today Show this morning. An exclusive new legal twist in the case of
convicted killer Alec Murdoch. His attorneys are demanding a new trial, accusing the
Colton County Clerk of Court of jury tampering. We never considered the likelihood has
reported to us by the jurors that the Clerk of Court would go in to
the sanctity of the jury room before he testified and tell the jurors don't be
fooled by testimony. That was one of the lawyers for Murdo there at a
press conference. Just for the record, now, we'll go back to the
reporter and Swarren. Affidavits from two jurors. Murdock's attorneys detail multiple instances of
what they say was improper conduct by Clerk of Court Rebecca Hill. According to
Murdoch's legal team, Hill allegedly told jurors, y'all are going to hear something
that will throw you all off. Don't let this distract you or mislead you.
Hill seeing outside the courthouse after the verdict acknowledged by prosecutors for her work.
I want to thank the Calfin County Clerk of Court, Becky Hill,
and her entire team. The defense motion filed Tuesday also alleged Hill asked jurors
for their opinions about Murdoch's guilt or innocence, pressured them to reach a quick
verdict, and invented a story about a Facebook post to remove a jurse she
believed would have found Murdoch not guilty. Jury tampering by a clerk of the
court would be something very rare and very dramatic. Shortly after the trial,
three of the jurors appearing on Today, telling Savannah and Craig they didn't believe
Murdoch's emotional testimony was genuine. He knows, she said, went to turn
it on and off, So I think that we were kind of able to
read right through that. Months after the trial ended, Hill co author to
tell all book about her experience on such a major case, called Behind the
Doors of Justice, The Murdoch Murders. NBC News has reached out to Hill
for comments about the new allegations and have not heard back, but she told
Court TV they were untrue. Guilty verdict in March. Murdoch was found guilty
of murdering his wife Maggie and his son Paul in twenty twenty one and received
two consecutive life sentences. According to his lawyers, he still maintains his innocence
and if that is true. So there we have it. That's a pretty
good wrap up on it. But it's interesting we now have a court reporter
allegedly with a book deal. Now what's funny. He is consistently in the
media. They've been talking about how this was going to be lucrative and everything
else. Sad facts though, if you actually dig into it a little bit,
is that it was actually self published according to the co author, the
person who did the writing work. You know, when you often have somebody
who's part of historical situation, they'll often bring in a co writer or a
ghostwriter according to the writer really involved in the project. They spent thirty grand
to put the book out anyway, so they're looking for major returns. And
the ironic part is this controversy, or as they say in England, controversy
would be helpful to them recouping their thirty grand and selling their book and everything
else. It's a weird wild story that keeps getting stranger and stranger. Now,
if the allegations are described as they were in that Today Show report,
it's pretty significant you got a problem here if she was, you know,
putting her thumb on the scale in favor of the prosecution or in favor of
anybody. First of all, it's a no no to do that. You're
influencing jurors and et cetera, et cetera. I mean obvious. And it's
not like it's her first day at the rodeo, so weird, wild story
that could get that verdict overturned, et cetera. And is it legitimate?
All legitimate? Is it? How is it being spun in the media?
Well, again, stay tuned to the murder trial, right, so missus,
Oh, what do you got to say about this? Well, I
think that doesn't the judge determine if disease actions would in fact have changed the
decision anyway. I mean, it doesn't take away that the evidence that he
did but he did well not the trial judge. What will happen here is
a judge on appeal look at this and they could send it back to the
trial judge to review, or they could simply vacate the verdict, depending on
what higher court they go to. There's a lot of different possibilities in this
process. It could be that, regardless of the evidence, his trial was
unfair. See that's the thing. It doesn't matter what the evidence says,
if they conducted an unfair trial, if people were unduly influenced, and anybody
who gets a good look at this and has the power to issue an edict
about it could turn around and say something. I mean, even the governor
of the state could turn around and pardon him, just because they have the
executive power ability to pardon somebody, and they could just pardon him and say
they pardon them because he got an unfair trial. It could be overturned on
appeal. A higher court could look at it and say this needs to be
done again. Either retry him or set him free. These are your choices.
There are a lot of possibilities that could occur here if indeed these allegations
are true. Now, the other part about this thing, which is not
in the Today Show report, is that the book itself could be self incrimination
produced and sent out into the public, which means you can't plead the fifth
on behalf of the book. If she memorialized any of her activities that show
that this stuff is true and happened, she may have automatically and who knows
what her actual motives are. She could have automatically given an excuse to vacate
the conviction, etc. And again, remember this was an influential family in
this state. So could it be and here's my conspiratorial mind. Could it
be that this was the intent all along to set up a circumstance by which
the prosecution couldn't win no matter what they presented anyway, because it would have
to be thrown out? Or is it that they decided that we're sick of
these people being in power and being boss hall here in South Carolina, it's
time for them to go. What is your thoughts on that possibility and where
this could go? Missus Oh, missus Oh, well, with that,
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to it the Murdoch case, missus oh I brought up the conspiracy possibilities.
I mean, could it be she's leaving her thumb on the scale trying to
intensely get him convicted. Could it be the intention to convict him? Look,
I can't even get it out of my mouth. Intention to convict?
Did she intend to stress convicting him or did she try to sabotage the prosecution
so there would be an out a way to get somebody out because maybe she's
still loyal to the very powerful Murdoch family Murdoch, Murdaw depending on how you
read it, what's the deal? I mean, they are definitely gingers,
you could judge them that way. But let's get to it. What do
you think about those conspiratorial possibilities from the clerk of the court and where this
all might go at the end of the day. What are your thoughts on
the possible motivations or motives by this individual to influence the case. Well,
I think she might have gotten caught up in the fame of the of the
case. I mean, it's a small little little town there, and we
don't have cases like that coming into this court system down there, And here
we are with one of the most powerful attorneys in South Carolina on you know,
trial for murdering his family basically, and then you know, all the
fact and everything. I think that it was the case maybe of getting a
little too into the fame of it all, if that makes sense. I'm
explaining it right like I think that. Don't listen, don't worry about how
you got to explain it. Let it go, because you know what,
we got a lot more to cover anyway. So bottom line is, I
guess we're gonna have to stay tuned and find out what the motivation is.
Your thought might be a little different than mine so far, though. It
could be just all about doing a judge edo getting carried away with the fame,
kind of like the Oja thing in the way distant past nowadays, you
know, Okay, grandpa got it? Okay, Boomer, Yeah whatever,
And I'm not a boomer. I am not a grandpa yet, but either
way, you know, I know I'm getting old. So speaking of getting
old, though, let's turn to the next major story in the basket here,
and we do have major and minor stories to cover, so we're going
to try and get to them all. Fascinating one, how about we get
to something that might sound familiar and yet not so familiar and escaped prisoner and
another murder trial. But this is different. This is not Ted Bundy escaping
into the woods and coming back, you know, three, four or five
days later. Looks to me like we've got one eleven twelve days now that
this guy has been on the run. This cabal Conte not to be confused
the de Cavalcante family of New Jersey, who may or may not have been
a partial inspiration for the Sopranos as a mob family. No, this guy's
not even Italian, but is a convicted or accused murderer. I forget which
he was being housed in one of the prisons, and he made an interesting
escape that we have now been treated to the you know, the video of
it, the question and a guy has now been put on administrative leave who
was allegedly in the guard tower with the god's eye view of the prison yard
that this guy escaped from with a rather curious they're calling it a crab walk,
but really it's just a pressurized walk between two vertical surfaces that people instruct
you to do in dangerous situations, when you're stuck in an emergency, etc.
All that happened but he snuck out of the yard, got through razor
wire, has now disappeared into the wilderness allegedly and has been cited many times.
And what we have for you guys to hear from is the latest on
it. And missus owill get into a better explanation in a moment, but
let's get the latest, because after all, the law enforcement people had to
come out and do it press conference earlier today, I believe, And this
one comes from one of the Fox affiliates, all right, so again I'll
give you all the links, all right in the show notes here for the
Sunday sloper, but one of the Fox affiliates there in Pennsylvania. And this
is how law enforcement describes the current status as they're looking for this guy.
And there may be updates that have even occurred since we have gone live here,
because there are live streamers following the search, et cetera, et cetera.
You could access it right now. You could pause us and go take
a listen. And some of this might be dated information if you're hearing the
podcast, but otherwise I've got it as up to date as I can.
And here we go with a portion of that press conference earlier today. Sometime
during the evening of September ninth, Cavalcante stool at twenty Ford transit van from
an area approximately three quarters of a mile from the perimeter we were maintaining near
the Longwood Gardens property. The keys had been left in the van and the
theft was not noticed until PSP canvassed the area looking for a possible stool and
vehicle after a report of a sighting of Cavalcante in the East Pikeland area.
It was determined Cavalcanti used the van and traveled to that area. At nine
fifty two pm, he attempted to contact an individual he had known and worked
with several years prior. Cavalcante spoke with the individual via a video doorbell at
that residence and inquired about meeting with that individual. The individual was at dinner
with his family and did not respond to meet Cavalcante. Cavalcante left that residence.
The homeowner eventually returned home, reviewed his doorbell recording, and called local
police. PSP received a call about this sighting and the next at twelve thirty
in the morning on September tenth, twenty twenty three. This was our first
indication that Cavalcante had been able to travel from the area of Longwood Gardens.
Wow, Okay, sorry about the noise there, because in which Cavalcante appeared
at a residence of another old work associate at ten oh seven pm. Okay,
I got a little interruption there because they had to splice together. They
lost broadcast for a moment. The update on the escaped inmate there in Pennsylvania
going on while Fox News was broadcasting, and they must have lost the live
feed for a moment. It's interesting because this is part of the details.
The guy has gone back into an area, tried to contact old acquaintances,
etc. And there have been many sightings reported all this stuff going on.
I guess if you're voyeuristic and trying to keep up to things, or if
you live in the area, you might be glued to this particular event and
what's going on. But what do you know about this, missus? Oh?
What does the listener need to know? In case it's like I never
heard of this guy, I don't know anything about it. Let's just say
I haven't been on the internet in the past week and none of this came
up anywhere. What would you explain to people about this case, what's going
on, what's happening, and of course this is more on the punishment side
of things. What happens. Clearly he was being watched about as well as
Jeffrey Epstein and except oh wait, they have no cameras or what happened to
Epstein. We have cameras of Cavalcanti leaving, and we have ring doorbells allegedly
showing him showing up in places and sightings like he's big Foot out in the
wilderness, but no capture as of air time. And again another stay tuned.
Is he in the area? Is he not? What do you know
about this so far? Missus? Oh well, some disfigured people and idea
of who this man is in case they don't know. I can't imagine somebody
not knowing. But he's a thirty four year old Brazilian nationals here legally.
On December twenty twenty, he his girlfriend it's the kind de Brandeia filled out
an order protection against him. April eighteen twenty one, he basically stamped her
thirty eight times in her backyard in front of her two children, and then
he fled. He was later arrested in Virginia and brought to back to Pennsylvania.
He killed her because he was afraid that she was going to turn him
in for the murder and that he committed in Brazil in twenty seventeen. So
what you're telling me is this guy was attempting. He's done a lot of
stuff to try and evade getting caught or getting held or whatever, because he's
got a murder case possibly against him in Brazil. We don't necessarily have all
the details on that, but I'm sure some intrepid reporter out there we'll get
into it. So he's trying to evade that, probably told some woman he
knew, some acquaintance a little bit about it, then thought better of it.
Oh, I might have to silence me another secondary witness, and there
you go. So now that leads to him being incarcerated here in the US.
And is this not one of those well dog whistle issues? Is this
not one of those things everybody's supposed to be completely freaked out about it at
all times? I mean, after all, weren't we told that MS thirteen
was pretty much everywhere? And oh, by the way, now I'm being
racist because I'm tying this guy to a Latino gang even though I don't know
if he's got Latino gang affiliation, But why not, let's do it all
because it does tick and check a lot of boxes for the media, and
the it bleeds. It leads business, that is, and not just because
it's on Fox, by the way, but this is certainly conservative dog whistling.
This is certainly be afraid, be very afraid. Oh, by the
way, law enforcement will be in your area, Stay in your homes.
Maybe don't send your kids to school. This is all sounding rather familiar,
and it's one escaped prisoner, one escaped dangerous convict. What are your thoughts
on the coverage of this and the way it's being handled? You got any
on those? Well, well, it is pretty intense. But I did
find earlier is movies ring doorbells. He did happen to break into one of
the homes, and the man and his wife were upstairs, and he heard
a noise and he told his wife, you know, you know, be
quiet, stay still or whatever, and he flicked the light on and off
right, And then Cavalcanti was downstairs in the kitchen and he turned the light
off and on, letting him know that you know, I'm here, and
he laughed, I would have died. Now there's somewhere that man is in
my home. Yeah. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, though,
it depends on how shady you are, right, I mean, if
you and I are familiar with let's be let's be blunt, honest. You
and I are familiar with somebody who we know is U is a killer,
a thief, a dope dealer or whatever, it doesn't matter. We know
them, and we figure we're in the safe category. We might be willing
to deal with them. And this is a weirdness where there's like this signaling
going on. They never actually spoke, but you know, they're letting him
know, Hey, somebody's home, and he's letting them know, yeah,
I'm still here. He walks out without a word, almost thinking, well,
look, if I don't tie them into it, I don't have to
kill one of my so called friends. This is a friend. Well,
I don't know if they knew each other or not. It doesn't say that.
Well, but that's the see, that's the suggestion here, there's some
suggestion of familiarity because there's other stories out there too, where another couple apparently
we're out to dinner somewhere and got alerted via these ring doorbells. Once again,
the surveillance state you know at all times, here's the hidden signal in
the story. Be very grateful that there's surveillance everywhere because we're able to track
this guy. We can't catch him with it, but we can at least
find out where he was and give you something new to work with because of
all the surveillance. And look, he hasn't been in a convenience story yet
that people know of. He hasn't been to a lot of other places that
are generally thought of to have cameras out there. But be grateful for the
giant industry of home security because all those cameras, whether you put them up
yourself or high or a company, those things, hey, they might save
your life. I mean, ADT just got themselves a huge and all the
other companies that could be recognized as I need a damn camera around my house
just got themselves a huge piece of pre average tizing here. Right. Yeah,
So there's that. And meanwhile, it's always a good story when there's
an escaped conduct on the loose, you know, jokes, movies, a
whole lot of things begin with this and I don't just mean you know that.
What was that movie with Harrison Ford in it? It was based on
something else kind I can't remember the name of that movie. You remember it.
The guy is on the run Richard Kimball the fugitive, right, and
they're using the word fugitive, but not too often they're they're generally just talking
about the escaped prisoner, so you know, which is at all times that's
a fugitive. Somebody's running from the law. Got a lot of those common
you know NBC Crime show sort of elements that could come together to make I
guarantee there's a movie being planned about this already. By the way, even
though they haven't even caught him yet, he could be dead. He might,
you know, wreak further havoc. We don't know. Stay tuned on
that. It's still in progress, right, missus. Hum, well,
he did well walk out of the house with an apple and some snap.
Well, you know, being wandering around in the woods and trying to evade
other human beings because you're not sure who's gonna get you busted or turn you
in or maybe turn a gun on you themselves. In a rural port of
part of Pennsylvania, believe it or not, a lot of people think,
well, there's not many guns in Pennsylvania. I assure you there's plenty of
people with all sorts of hunting implements in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is not as anti
a gun place as a lot of people think. Now you go to Philadelphia,
it could be an anti gun place, which is funny because that's where
I'm going next. But anything else that we need to know about this story
as it's already in progress, missus o, and we are pressed for time,
do you have any other thoughts you need to add to this one?
No other than you know, these running circles around law enforcement and maybe they
see they catch them and must them to be ricon or something for our military.
So far, right, so far, it's looking interesting. So with
the last portions of the show, we are going to cover just one more
thing that does link to this in a rather curious way. Let's stay in
Pennsylvania. Why Well, because one of the other things that's going on that
we're not going to comment on much, We're gonna talk really quickly about a
police shooting, which is another element of law enforcement and the interaction with the
public. Et cetera, et cetera, as well as the media coming into
play here, and something that I usually talk about. Have zero sympathy for
the police personally me that is, I know a lot of you feel sympathy
for the police, but I default to the cop probably did the wrong thing
if somebody who wasn't actively trying to commit a murder or injure that police officer
directly wasn't actively trying to do so. At the time, a lot of
people are killed in police interactions, I know, nobody wants to hear it
anymore. And oh my good. He's like a member of Antifa. No,
no, but who knows, maybe I would join if it was not
a federal you know, sort of provocateur agency, creation, fabrication, etc.
There are real Antifa, but the Antifa you see where people are getting
together and they have nice uniforms and all that. Yeah, those are Feds.
But let's get back to real law enforcement and what's going on there.
There is one police officer and we're gonna take this one from the law on
Crime channel who surrendered in the same state of course, Philly though this time.
So now we go to the city real quick and whoops, I have
the wrong clip. Cute, but we're gonna go to the city and Mark
Dial is the guy. And this is from two days ago, after bodycam
footage was released in the Eddie Issurie. It looks like it's pronounced Issori.
Maybe I'll get corrected here. He's surrendered on Friday morning and it's Sunday as
I speak to you. So let's go to a not the law on Crime
channel. But how about this one of the channels I used to watch when
I lived in Jersey, CBS three, which is a yeah, a CBS
affiliate out of Philadelphia. And if you're in South Jersey, sometimes you get
a lot of Philly channels and sometimes you get Philly in New York both.
But quite often you would have had access even back in the seventies if you
were in the right spot in Jersey. Jersey's a little place you might have
been watching CBS three, even if you just stuck your rabbit ears up in
the air. So let's go to this officer, Mark Dial, facing murder
charge in Eddie Isori shooting. And this is how CBS three reported it.
Let's start out with that breaking news. Mark Dial, the Philadelphia police officer
who shot and killed Eddie Irosori, has turned himself into police. CBS News
Philadelphias Howard Monroe is live in South Philadelphia for US with the very latest.
Howard Morning, Lacomart's huge en. Yes, Mark Dial, he walked into
the first district about an hour ago. He was with his lawyers and also
the president of the Philadelphia FOP. Now he also was here. The reason
why he is here is because this is the officer involved shooting investigation. We
can presume now that he is inside being questioned. Now, this is the
video of Mark Dial walking into the district here earlier on this morning. It
was about eight o'clock this morning. He's they show you him and a group
of guys walking in his slow motion that interaction was describing the interaction camera half
was released by the family's lawyer. Initially, police had Irizari lunged at police
officers with a knife, but that story later changed and we then learned that
Irasari never got out of his car. After that shooting, Dial was reportedly
not cooperating with the investigation. He was suspended for thirty days with the intent
to terminate. His lawyer said Dial and his partner thought they saw a gun.
They also said that Irasari made an illegal turn in his car moments before
that interaction with police. Here's his attorney, Brian mcmonagle, fearing that he
was going to be the next police officer killed in the streets of Philadelphia,
he fired. What's telling in the video is that his officer dial is firing,
He's taking retreat, He's trying to retreat and trying to find cover because
he believes the individual has a gun. In no world, in no world,
is those facts murder. We intend to write this wrong. This decision
today puts police officers in peril at a time when they're dealing with perhaps the
most violent time in our city's history. We intend to write this wrong and
bring him this young man at home now. The District Attorney does have a
news conference schedules for eleven thirty later on this some morning. We are told
that he will announce the charges that Mark dal will be facing, and also
were told that he will be releasing the unreleased body Kim video of that day.
Will be sure to follow this story for you throughout the date today.
In the interest of keeping this rolling, I gotta say, look on one
side of the equation. You have a situation here which is rather typical.
The police officer was justified. Of course, police are under pressure, don't
forget, they want to go home. All of these things are true.
And is there an unmitigated, absolute ridiculous circumstances police officers being murdered in the
streets of Philadelphia, Well, that perception is out there as to whether it's
actually happening as a common occurrence, as yet another story, but sort of
surprising a lot of people would say that the liberal media is even willing to
give that side of the story. It looked to me like a guy through
a closed window was shot and killed and got to squirm around for a little
while afterwards. He had knives in the car, but none in hand,
and wasn't posing an immediate threat to the officer. He had, however,
made the immediate threat of the illegal turn or whatever the hell. The justification
was for a traffic stop, which is often the insighting event that leads to
these things. So you could probably tell where my opinions going. But you
know what, let's not linger on the opinions so long and get a book
end to this. What do I mean by a book end? Well,
how about something where the situation might be similar and it might go on the
same shelf because it's a similar sort of situation. But we have the bodycam
from a Colorado officer who was involved in a situation that I do want to
talk about a bit, but I want to give you a taste of what
was going on here during this event. In this case, a Colorado Copp
is according to the headline, and this comes from the Law and Crime channel.
I misstated earlier about the other one that was CBS. This is Law
and Crime and again all the links I'll include with the show notes. But
Colorado Copps swiftly reacts shoots woman who allegedly pulled gun during traffic stop. Here's
some of the body cam and possibly some reporting from the Law and Order channel
if I let it roll for a minute or two. Next, Adams introduces
Jess to the other officer before making a bizarre remark about America. This is
Jess is my best buddy, Mark. How are you? How are yok
right? It's steering wheel, it's her Birthday's America, West America. Yes,
here's my phone. Okay. Next, Adams can be seen holding hands
with another officer, who appears to be comforting him. Seconds later, another
officer instructs Adams to turn off his body camera video. I've got the gun
in my car, starts market tigre gunward us or leave it in my car.
It's in the cupholder. Okayf Durand died as a result of her injuries.
As the investigation is still ongoing, Adams has been placed on paid administrative
leave her department policy reporting for Long Crime Network. I'm Sierra Llespie. Okay,
So that gives you a taste of the aftermath of the shooting. There
is bodycam puttage out there of the shooting and the weirdness of the event.
But here's the funny part to me, and this is a rare occasion to
me, I don't blame the cop propening fire on somebody who was being unresponsive,
appeared intoxicated. He asked several times if she needed help. He was
asking if she had been intoxicated, trying to assess the situation and had a
virtually unresponsive female who was, you know, still in motions, still animated,
not passed out, but facing the wrong way in a lane in front
of the other driver, which, by the way, he's going to check
on that other driver because one of his bullets careened off the windshield of the
other vehicle. All right, shots were fired, and you do see this
guy, literally in real time, have an emotional breakdown. It appears as
though it's not something he was out to do. He wasn't gunning for it.
He wasn't you know, Oh my god, you're ready to take somebody
down. The odd comment about America look loose, chatter and people trying a
virtue signal to one another in public is commonplace. I don't know why the
reporter found that strange. It's not at all. This is not a strange
situation, and is a situation in which a police officer might have, despite
the undeniable, seemingly undeniable desire to not engage in this activity, was sort
of back into a corner and had to do what he had to do so
he could go home, so others could go home. Who knows how dangerous
this woman really was. She did have a gun. She wasn't answering too
much, except she did say no, I don't want the ambulance. But
outside of that, this was problematic. Did you watch the bodycam footage missus,
Oh he did, you did, so you're aware of it. And
this is you know again, I think I presented two very different cases.
One situation where a guy I think, you know, initial look at it,
unjustifiably killed this kid in Philly. And yet this Colorado officer is trying
to do his job, is trying to look out for the well being of
everybody on the scene, according to what I can see from this, and
uh, you know, ends up in a situation where unfortunately, his default
needs to be to defend himself. Now, could he gotten out of it
without shooting the lady? Maybe? Is there any more to this? I
guess we'll have to stay tuned, but a really unfortunate crap situation for all
involved the way I see it. What do you see out of this?
Real quick before we get to the final story on the Sunday Sloper this week?
Well, I think that this cop is one of one of the good
cops who you know, isn't a bully. So I feel bad for him.
I think he was really genuinely affected by that whole encounter. I mean,
it does sound legitimate when he breaks down at one point, he starts
to cry, he starts apologizing to the people that witnessed it that he wants
to make sure about. You know, hey, look, I know a
bullet struck your vehicle, as anybody hurt. I mean, a lot of
that is going on here, and this guy seems to be caught in just
a bad situation where he's trying to do an honest job as a cop.
I know, I don't say that much, but frankly, look, I
mean I got my reasons. Doesn't matter what they are right now. The
fact is that you know, the killings, the shootings, these kinds of
things in police interaction other cop ends up dead or a civilian does, are
still too frequent in occurrence, and you know, something needs to be done.
Yes, And I don't stand on the side of anybody killing anybody,
especially if they take it as a justifiable reason simply because they have a badge
and they may have been bullied in the past. But it is part of
the symptomatic illness of our time with law law enforcement, things that are legal,
lawful orders, and people allegedly enforcing law that don't know any law,
et cetera, et cetera. So anything you want to just drop on this
one, or should we move along, fair enough, but we here at
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the last segment and a little bit of time we have missus O let us
now get to the business of the Shaw Business trial. What is that about?
It is the most delicious story. It's it's messy. Pardon don't pardon
the pun. It's messy, it's a sloppy, it's a wholly hellified horrifying.
Anyways, it is what it is. Tell us about Shaw Business.
Well, we're gonna say the craziest one to last. Kalush the business is
a twenty five year old woman from Green Bay, Wisconsin, who was son
guilty of murdering and dismembering her lover, twenty five year old Shad Firons.
He straggled them to death while engaging in sexual intercourse uh while they were both
under the influence of meta ampetomy and prescription drugs. When she was done with
them, she strangled them and dismembered his body, left his head and his
genitalia in a bucket at the bottom of the stairs in the basement for his
mother to find that lovely absolutely anyway this but people might say, wow,
that's a wild story in and of itself, But there's more to it.
You want to tell people about the more to it? Or would you like
me to do the honors, because there is a lot more to it,
real quick. Else, she drove around in her minivan with parts of his
body in a crock pot box, so the arrested her, and then in
court she attacked her attorney. Yeah, so I'm assuming that the parts she
was driving around with were different from the parts she left for his mom to
find, right yeah, yeah, yeah, continue though an anything else you
want to add or shall you know, let me know whenever I'll pick up
from there. She was arrested in Shorge, first degree murder, mutilated the
corpse in third degree sexual assault on July twenty sixth of this year. Jerry
convicted her on all three counts and her sentencing will be September twenty six Right
now, there is a whole lot more to this story. You did mention
that she attacked her lawyer during the trial, right, yeah, Okay,
did you happen to mention the rest of the weirdness. I mean, apparently
she decided she was so excited that she had to take time after the main
event, so to speak, to go ahead and pleasure herself alongside while cuddling
with canoodling if you will, you know, just like that clip canoodling with
or at least part of the corpse apparently. And there was also a time
during this trial proceeding that which started well a few months back. But again,
like you said, the sentencing is going to come up on the twenty
sixth of this month. But she U Yeah, she spent a little bit
of time doing a lot of things. And even in addition to attacking the
lawyer, there was some question as to her sanity. They had a whole
hearing about her sanity and found her sane. Uh you know, he purpose
is standing trial, but show business and all of her business guidelines. Are
they facing her sanity on for crying out loud? Well, if you are
not insane enough to get on that plane and you're not going to spain,
what the hell? It's it's pretty outrage that psychologists I really do, right,
And they they found her they deliberated for let's see, okay, According
to one of the reports at the time. A Milwaukee based psychologist who evaluated
shaw business for more than an hour in November of last year found her fit
to stand trial. It wouldn't surprise me. Well something of frenic, something's
wrong, I'm just saying. And there was a whole question as to who
this was. The mutilation of the body, I mean, as per usual,
the abuse of a corpse, I mean, wild, wild stuff.
And meanwhile, I got a whole other story that we didn't even get to
here, but more to come out of this thing. Yeah, she literally
attacked her lawyer. There's tape of that out there. There's bodycam of her
arrest, which is pretty curious. Of the cup down in the basement,
I mean that poor kids. I don't think he's ever going to be okay.
Again, well, some people were traumatized just by being around and having
to witness the crime scene. Indeed, this is pretty gruesome, pretty crazy.
And you know, anybody finding curious to this again, I mean,
what is in the water in Milwaukee, because damn uh you know, this
is the home of Jeffrey Dahmer and many other cases. If you go and
look at it, a lot of bizarre activity. I mean, what the
hell is wrong with Milwaukee, just asking, you know, asking for the
rest of America. Why is this happening in Wisconsin. Yeah, so there's
that to consider. It wasn't some beer company in Milwaukee. Well they're their
headquarters, is there. Anyway, We're gonna include some articles, video clip
and all that to the show business business, if you will, and and
they'll also include here, I'm gonna play you a little audio, no commentary,
I think here, but little audio of what just seemed to happen spontaneously
in court. Uh during the course of this trial. Again we talked about
the attack of a lawyer, which is pretty odd, her lawyer at the
time anyway, getting physically jumped on, and then the bailiffs having to pull
her off and all that while she continue to fight with him. So here
here's a little bit of just a sample of snippet of the sound from that
event. Very quiet at first because the judge is reading, there's nothing much
going on. The camera turns away and turns to the judge paper Russell,
and boom. She is on her attorney and a court officer is attempting to
drag her away and contain her. She's continuing to kick and thrash and bang
into chairs. Rachel call there was an edit there in this video where they
finally got her calm and sitting up against with her back against the door,
watch breaking news, and they take her away in shackles and all that.
The shackles in front of her, uh in the orange jumpsuit, et cetera,
et cetera. She's now barefoot because she's kicked off her likely county or
prison issued flip flops. You know, she's not even dressed recording none of
this. It's one of those situations. Look, normally, I focus on
how the justice or alleged justice and what justice is system runs over most people
in general, and that is a valid thing to bring up. But as
per usual, there's always what if. Paul Harvey used to say more to
the story, And indeed I was going to get into this other thing where
a woman was arrested in let's let's get the state straight here. I think
it's in Washington, and I'll just give you the headline and maybe I'll include
this with the show notes too. I meant to cover woman arrested after allegedly
hiding avocados size plastic sandwich bag full of various drugs in her vagina. This
might qualify as some naked news, except while she was committing the crimes she's
alleged to have occurred, or alleged to have committed, she wasn't naked,
but at some point somebody had to get her naked in order to retrieve the
avocados sized plastic bag. So it's not an avocado but an avocado sized plastic
bag. And again it's a ginger, and again the law enforcement interaction begins
with a traffic stop after somebody catching some sketchy activity and thinking she's a drug
dealer, which apparently she was. But you know when women do have these
uh built in storage areas and they sometimes Anyway, I was gonna have missus
no comment on that, but guess what, the Sunday Sloper is done.
So I've gotten enough trouble with vaginas, so we'll just keep it fair enough.
Apparently no sand in this one, but the sloper will continue live on
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