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Steve Rivera and Jakin Salis. They
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I heard radio arm Hey, welcome
back to on the Back here on Fox

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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve you
jacomes Olsen, Now you got Jason with

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breaking news. Wendell'neil, the former
Arizona Associate Athletic Director and Equipment Operations,

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has retired after twenty five year career
in service to Arizona. To an athlete

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had him he was he announced his
retirement, but it's official today. Yeah

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remember that? Yeah, yeah,
we had him on. We had some

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great he had some great stories to
tell you, right, it was really

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cool. And congratulations Wendell Neil.
Get you back on the show someday.

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Yeah. Um Channel Arizona Abasha four
Store quarterback A Deadman Williams is expected to

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attend Arizona's a Big Desert Stars recruiting
event this weekend. Oh that's is that

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kid from Mississippi? Yeah okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah, they say

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he's visiting this weekend and we'll see
yep. Awesome. Nationale is Jalen Brown

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and the Boston Celtics have agreed to
a five year Supermax extension worth up to

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three hundred and four million dollars,
which makes him the richest or gives him

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the richest contract in NBA history.
Is he um? You know if you

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think he should get he should he
be the highest paid player. No,

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but it makes sense for him to
do that because of you know, his

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talent, and they want to keep
him and take him together. And this

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situation they're in because if they trade
him, they won't get a value back

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of his word. You know what
I'm like him to be. They need

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him to be like a perennial contender
in the NBA. That makes sense,

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isn't it funny? Well, it's
it isn't gonna be the case where every

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every start that we saw moving forward. Yeah, it's gonna be the richest,

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exactly, it's gonna be a best
ball player because they always have to

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win up the next gun. Yeah, that's how I mean. It makes

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sense. Would be the richest for
the next two days before Yeah, basically,

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then the next guy get three fifty
million. Then you know this money,

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Jay, this money when you're making
forty fifty million dollars a year,

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Apparently the owners had it. What
about the soccer guy. Yeah, I

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was about just bring that up.
I don't know if he has talked about

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it, but we have it.
Um killing him a bob. He's he

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has a chance to get up to
worth like seven hundred and seventy six million

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annually for one year year, seven
hundred seven million for one year to go

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playing in Saudi Arabia for his one
year, and she has a he has

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a chance to do that if he
wants. I was gonna say, where

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these owners get it? But I
get it. He's gonna, yeah,

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just give him the damn oil well
right, yeah, or a couple of

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a couple of oil well yeah,
please for a day? Yeah man,

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and I just have one of those
million, just one, just one one

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yeah. Um. NFL news the
charges star quarterback Justin Herbert just Um agreed

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on terms to his nuke on Blockbuster, a five year extension, which is

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worth up to two hundred and sixty
two point five million dollars riches. Yeah

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he is, yeah, she's yeah. And I guess Joe Burrow is gonna

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be next to get the next one. He's gonna one up that basically him.

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Uh yeah, just the way of
the world. Man, I was

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born I said this too the last
week. Too late. I was born

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too late. Yeah, and not
as a couple of inches taller. Uh.

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The New York Giants ae Quon Barkley, I just agreed to a new

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one year deal with the Giants worth
up to ten point one to fully guaranteed,

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including a two million upfront signing bonus. Okay on that one. Yeah,

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he's getting like less than a million
dollars more he was going to get

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under his franchise. It's nine hundred
k more. That's a boat and that

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was a boat. Yeah about it? So your pointing in this way,

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was he what's all the fus?
Yeah? Why why was he holding on?

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If that's all the additional he was
going to get? Like, I'm

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pretty sure yesterday they were just on
the zoom call all the running backs in

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the NFL about you know, we're
not getting paid and paid enough, Like

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we gotta do something about this in
the next day, like he signs the

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deal. So, Jackson, when
you get your first job to wherever it

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is, Yeah, are you gonna
bitch about your first job? I mean

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I'm gonna go with the money money
exactly. Already happy to get that job.

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Yeah, whether they pay you a
lot or don't. Yeah, exactly,

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but that's how they are. They. Oh, I'll do whatever you

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want, and then four years later, I don't want to be here anymore.

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Pay me more money. Yeah,
it's all about the money at the

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end of the day. So I
gotta get that bag because people, as

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you kids say, yeah, Um, the Saints have signed their former Pro

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Bowl Pro Bowl A tight end,
Jimmy Graham to your new one year contract.

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He's still playing, yeah, Bram, Yes, yeah. Is he

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like really old? Yeah, he's
like, I think maybe thirties, you

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know, so old. Yeah.
Um. The Cowboys um signed their star

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cornerback Treyvon Diggs to a new five
year contract which is worth up to ninety

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seven million dollars, so he becomes
the highest paked quarterback in the NFL and

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his max value for the contract with
like incentives can be up fourth to one

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hundred four million. Well again,
another guy, who's another richest guy.

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Blah blah blah. Yeah, I
can this go on, Steve. That's

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what I'll keep doing. These TV
rights and these guess who's paying for it?

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You and me? Yeah, just
okay, and go to that just

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out of curiosity. I was watching
the Dodger game last night, and so,

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um, you know, I'm looking
behind home play in a bunch of

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empty seats. So I just went
on the ticket on the Major League Baseball

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ticket app to see how much those
seats cost. One seat. No,

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eight hundred and fifty bucks. Is
that where so you're talking? Yeah,

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we're the lady from my entertainment tonight. Yeah, whatever her name is.

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I can't remember name, but yeah. And then this was actually it was

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one seat. There was only one
seat left and it was kind of stuck

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in the middle, and now was
hundred fifty bucks. If you wanted to

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sit there, you know, you
if you want to go to that game

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with your wife or whatever. That's
that's why they paid. That's out there,

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and that's where they're empty. And
that's probably why they're empty because people

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on people own those when they go
whenever. I'm not you know, I

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would love to sit behind home play
the Dodger game, but it's not worth

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eight hundred trucks. No, no, yeah. Um. Michigan and the

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NCAA are negotiating a resolution to an
investigation into the Wolverines recruiting practices. Um.

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That would result in the possible four
game suspension four Head coach Jim marb

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I think he's already been suspended for
four games. No, they're saying it's

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it's it's not finalized out. Yeah, they're they're they're trying to settle on

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this. It's a four game it's
a four game suspension. It's for four

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game. It's the first four games, which they're gonna be thirty point favorites

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in all four games. Um,
and it's four He during COVID he bought

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a burger for two recruits who were
visiting. Now they weren't on an official

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visit, but he met them at
Murder Joint in in ann Arbor. He

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boughttomed burgers. But the problem with
it was when he got caught, he

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lied about it. And so the
level one infraction that he's got is not

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for buying the burger. It's for, as they say the word, they're

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just misleading the NC double A when
they came and asked about it. So

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they're talking about suspending them for the
first four games of the season. Yeah,

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did you remember you didn't? Did
you read my Sean Elliott chapter?

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He said he said this a bunch
of times. I don't know if I

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made the chapter where he went to
loose we want lo speaking engagement and he

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hadn't eaten all day and Luke said
you hungry and said yeah, So they

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stopped to McDonald's. You remember the
story. So they stopped McDonald's and back

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then it was like three bucks right
for burger and he says, well,

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here's twenty bucks. Uh, make
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Yeah, and he's coach, coach, I don't have any money, you

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don't have anybody, and you couldn't
give me the rest of the twenty bucks

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to be like for a week be
is Nope, Hey, I bought Shanna

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pizza? I did you bet?
Yeah? You violent bottom of bottom of

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when I when I interviewed him for
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Tournament started his junior year. You
know, I was at You're doing a

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story. I was I was doing
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and I said, are you hungry? You want to go with somebodc Yeah,

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let's go a pizza. And we
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a round table pizza right up on
Prince and uh, Campbell went pick and

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we didn't eat it there, but
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it back to his place and had
a pizza. Yeah, and I'm sure

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that was a violation of Sweeten in
the deal. Yeah, he stayed at

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Arizona in an extra year because I
bought him a pizza. Y Gonzalez guy.

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Candice Parker's outing definitely after undergoing successful
surgery on her left foot, the

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Aces announced today. Um, she's
been playing with a fracture all season.

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Fracture, ye, fracture yep um. But after the surgery, the doc's

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advisor, she just you know,
said out the rest of the season,

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she's so I can fully yield.
Okay, you see Olivia Pacatto, he

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is that n him sound familiar.
Sounds a little familiar to me. She's

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the first woman to hit a homerun
in the ear the New York would Bat

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League. Wow wow, Yeah,
so it was pretty because all the guys

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weren't crazy for uh. So,
ok Um, Orlando is going to be

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hosting the twenty twenty four Pro Bowl
games. Um, it is going to

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be hot, yes, very hot, and it's going to be um on

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Sunday, February fourth. So wait, they're still having a game. Didn't

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they didn't it become flag football or
something. That's yeah, something simple.

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Yeah, they was a flag football
game or Somethingah, they have like different

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events. Yeah, they're like a
skills thing, but then they play flag

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football game. Yeah basically, so
you know, I'll pay a lot of

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money to go see that. Yeah. Um, the Panthers rookie quarterback Bryce

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Young he turns twenty two today,
and I didn't know. I think it

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was it was pretty cool. Um, he's going to be the youngest um

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season opening starting quarterback in Panthers in
Panthers history, which is you know,

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I think pretty cool. So yeah, we all and we already know he's

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the starting quarback. He's he's gonna
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be the youngest in their franchise history. Um, at twenty two years old.

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They don't break him early, he'll
turn into Tyler Kyler Murray hopefully.

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No. I mean he's a very
talented, very smart quarterbacks. If they

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use him right, he should be
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this system. Yeah, I mean
sort of mac Jones. So you know,

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Um, the seventy sixes are hiring
Mike Longer Boardy as their head coach

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for all their franchises. Delaware G
League affiliate. Um Lungbardi has been a

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twenty years NBA assistant coach. Um, we heard anything on Joe Blair.

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He's still with him. He coached
the sumber League. He was on he

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was on the bench coaching in the
suber League. Okay, so he he

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didn't get the job, obviously,
you know he didn't get the job,

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but he still got his job.
Yeah, and all that stuff. Yeah,

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okay, good. Um. Boston's
Bruins captain Patrese were gone, one

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of the best two way forwards ever, has announced his retirement. Um.

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He played for the Bruins for all
nineteen seasons of his career. Yeah.

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Um, the some baseball news,
the Boston Red Sox. I was Angeles

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Dodgers. Yes, finalizing a trade
was on my list. Um, Kiki

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Hernandez to the Dodgers. K Hernandez, who was who was a key to

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the twenty twenty World Series team?
Hit? Some had some key hits?

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Did they did they do this for
that reason? Well? They needed they

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need a guy. They've got a
bunch of injuries. So he's he's a

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he's a utility guy. So he
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he was part of that. Yeah, he had they had let him go.

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He had signed a free agent contract
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saw him. You know, he
played shortstop the game that I saw there.

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So now he's back with the Dodgers. I really really liked him with

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the Dodgers. I'm glad he's back. Okay, and I just trade a

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couple of prospects and some cash.
But um, I told my son,

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I said, he's already on my
fantasy team. So any bad luck that

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happens with the Dodgers is not my
fault. And what your son say,

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he kind of threw me in the
fingers. It's always on. That's all.

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I'm breaking his offer today, all
right. I had a couple more

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things. So Kansas football player,
I guess sounds like more like a former

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Kansas football player now allegedly called it
a bomb threat to the Kansas football facility,

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an offensive lineman, and he's been
arrested for uh for an aggravated criminal

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threat that caused terror, evacuation and
disruption to see what he did, Yes,

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why would you do something like that? Just you know, he hasn't

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played much or he's not gonna play
at all. Now he's no playtime at

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all. So, coach, can
you give me a recommendation for a job?

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No, Son, I can't.
Northwestern football had a defensive back jump

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into the transfer portal, which very
late, you know to be doing that,

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right, camps are about to start
a defensive back Jeremiah Lewis seventy tackles

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less season with the Northwestern So on
top of everything else, players are starting

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to leave. Um, we can
probably talk about this after the break,

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because there's a lot more to talk
about. But there's a Senate bill.

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Uh that's that's out there. Uh
an nil bill. Another one that got

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put out there by Tommy Tuberville,
who was, yeah, he's he's a

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he's a senator somewhere, yes,
out of Alabama and uh he. So

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this bill is out and got a
bunch of interesting stuff, but there's some

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people saying it's going to be dead
on arrival because one of the things in

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it is that players athletes cannot transfer
from without penalty until they've had used up

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three years of eligibility, and people
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through the bill. Ross Dallinger pointed
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You know. People think the grass
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grass? What happened? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, but we gotta go

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to break So but a lot of
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trying to do. Yeah, there's
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but let's take a break where and
come back and we'll have Greg Hanson on

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and talk a little bit about some
of all of this. Right. Greg's

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always in the middle of stuff,
still doing his notes column on Sundays,

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which is great because uh, it's
always good to read. So, um,

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Steve Ribera. He's chickens all snow
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the Arizona Daily started. How are
you doing? Greg? Hey, talk

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you guys. We're all on factation. Well I was for a day last

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week and Steve is going for a
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we sort of ore. But we're
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Greg. I mean we're having fun
sitting in it. Huh. I've

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spent well, I haven't spent as
much time in the summer heat as you.

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Ja. Yeah, no, I
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I've got my summer color is uh
farm, it's here here. Who are

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you? Who are you? What
are you? In the mountains of the

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Himalaya. This little kim little place
called Grand Lake, Colorado, little place

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call you him and his wife and
that's it. Yeah, that's it man.

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And the golf course. That course
so eight eight thousand feet elevation.

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Oh how you can probably barely breathe. Yeah, it took it takes.

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It takes about ten days every year. Yeah to get used to it.

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Yeah. Wow, Okay, all
right, But I bet the ball,

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I bet the golf ball flies that. That does not translate. It does

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not work. I was gonna say, because that must mean you might might

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hit it, you know, two
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the driver or whatever. But no, I shouldn't make fun. I know

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you can play every year you lose
like ten or fifteen yards. All right,

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So a lot of a lot of
stuff going on, Greg, I

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mean, from the PAC twelve,
you got Northwestern, you got Bronnie James.

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I mean, what the hell has
happened? It's not been a slow

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summer, that's for sure. Yeah, and it's suddenly it's college football,

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well, pro football season. The
camps is already open. It's time to

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go. Are you excited or do
you care about this year's not? Care?

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Cares not the right word. You
excited about the football season coming up?

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College wise in Arizona? And did
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I watched almost all of it,
but Jay remembers this, and I know

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it's a long time ago, but
when I really got excited is when they

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had camp Coach Cheese. Um,
no one would believe it, but that

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was like the most enjoyable week of
the year, almost going to down to

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Douglas for a week and seeing all
your buddies and covering a little bit of

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football and going to Bisbee every night, and and that that was just a

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treat that I'll always miss. Or
Dawson's Bar and grill. Right, wasn't

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that the place Dawsons in Douglas.
Don't forget it to stay at Motel six

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dits to the prison next to the
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interior of the Motel one here.
It was fun. It was it was

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muggy, but it was fun.
Yeah, it wasn't a sawn as two

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sons. So you know you said
you watched you watched a lot of the

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pack pop stuff. So let's first
ask you your your thoughts on the whole

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Jane Delora a bit and how they
handled that and how he handled it.

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What were your thoughts on that.
I thought he handled it well. Obviously

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it was rehearsed and kid met would
probably the UVa's attorneys, and and they

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had created so much doubt that now
there's don about it. And I think

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their objective was to move on,
and they got it out of the way

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in the first day. And unless
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it's kind of a side issue.
Now. We talked about that where you

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know, if if you had a
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There hasn't been answered already, right, or that hasn't been asked not answered

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that one. Yeah, yeah,
even a well rehearsed Washington attorney couldn't get

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an answer out of it. Now, yeah, no, I agree with

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that didn't So you know, if
it is a side issue, then you

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know, then you move on.
And then but Jed Fish also had to

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answer the question did you think he
did about what you would expect? Or

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did good? Did bad? Would
you think? I thought he was excellent?

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You know, he's he's such a
good public speaker. He uh he

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neutered it in what thirty five seconds
and answered the questions right to the point

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about that there was doubt and that
things have been misrepresented and um, and

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then they started talking football, and
I think that was their point. I

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like the word you use, their
neutered. I thought that was that was

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really good. So so your thoughts
on you know, what do you think

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we're going to see this year?
I mean, Steve Stephen, I have

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a little wager going we went,
we did the number five and a half

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wins. I went over, he
went under for for a dinner. Um,

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any thoughts on where you think they
are? They picked eight there,

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picked eighth in the league. So
what do you think? Yeah, well,

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number one on the number of wins
five point five. Two years ago

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the number was one point one and
me and my friend Todd Mayfield got sucked

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into a big bet on one point
one and lost. And uh so I'm

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the last guy who has any accuracy
on the predictions of over under on wins.

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Um, I'm still reading from that, but I mean five and a

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half. Unless they have some severe
injuries, they should win six or seven,

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don't you think. Well, we're
having trouble finding specifically which six games

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those are, because yeah, there's
so many games. There's two big games,

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the Oregon State game and the Washington
State game. Those were kind of

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those could go either way, and
if they go bad, they're not gonna

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get to say they lose both of
those games. They're not gonna win six.

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Boy, Oregon State thinks it's gonna
be good, really good. Yeah,

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you know eight or nine win team? Yeah, Um, I've forgotten

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on the top of my head as
that game and two son. Of course,

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they go to wh Shington State and
then the next week they come back

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and play Utah and that comes right
after they play USC than Washington. Well,

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it doesn't line up real good,
but I think they have the offensive

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personnel dout score seven teams. Um, but what happens if Dolora gets hurt

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and then they don't have the offensive
personnel right right? Or and we saw

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what he did against Washington State last
year. Here, this ain't gonna be

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easy going to Pullman. They had
they had him scouted to the tea.

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I mean, they made him look
like a first year freshman. Yeah,

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and maybe they'll adjust this year.
He probably that was probably his worst game

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of the year. Yeah, And
I don't know if it was because of

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the expectations you had, but clearly
he just looked awful from the get go

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in that game. Yeah. I
guess that's not unusual tho. I'll remember

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how through the years of Dan White
and Ortig Ankins and even Nick Foles,

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they went up and down all the
time. Yeah, always, Um,

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you know, and the thing that
the point that we've been kind of making

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is if their defense just could be
a little better than it was last year

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just a little better, not even
a lot better. They could win an

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extra game or two. Justin Slow
has got to be a game changer,

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you know, you look back.
He was as highly rated coming out of

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high school as he lies a rushing
as now. And he went to Oregon

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for those two years and I know
he was injured, yeah a lot,

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but he didn't make a difference there. So he's still as good as as

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he was supposed to be. I
mean, if he is, he's an

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All conference player and he went to
Arizona last defensive of all conference player.

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Were you there? Were you there? Jay? And I were there in

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the press conference after the spring game. Were you in there? In there

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when he came into the podium and
did that? Yeah, just how impressed

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you were he came in, he's
his holy crab? Who is this dude?

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And then he spoke. Then he
spoke like really well in a sense

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that you had to believe everything he
said. But how he looked it was

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like, you know, mister Holt
coming intrough the room, he passed the

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eye test before he even got through
the door. Oh yeah, yeah,

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I gasped when he walked in the
door. I'm like woke exactly exactly exactly.

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I mean, I'm like, who, who is that kind of thing?

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Ye? Sorry, USC's that way, sir. That was of all

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the Fish chickups. And you know
he's I mean, I think he's really

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good at and evaluations and acquiring people
that might that may be his best one.

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Let me ask you a question that
I asked Jay a couple of days

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ago, or maybe Friday or whatever, last week or yesterday. Do you

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think that Jetfish is a good coach
or is it too early to tell?

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Really good question, Steve, when
the job is open, I would have

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voted strongly for Brent Brennan, and
which would have been a huge mistake in

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retrospect because he had a lot of
Dicktomy in him. And I've come to

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realize since then, in those three
years, that there's a new way to

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coach now, and Jed Fish is
one of the new ways to go.

408
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.720
You don't have to be an old
school guy like Dicktomy or Brent Brennan.

409
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.839
And I mean all of the things
that Fish has done in community outreach,

410
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:41.039
the player acquisition to staff acquisition.
You know, I don't think Brannon could

411
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.640
have done that. I don't think
he could have. He would have never

412
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:48.000
gone after McMillan, and those guys
in Arizona would still be floating there at

413
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.920
three and nine. So I think
Fish was the way of the future for

414
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.119
a football school like Arizona. Yeah, that's what we talked about. I

415
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.039
mean, I still not percent sure
how good of an. I guess he's

416
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.480
a pretty good access in those coach
because the offensive has gotten so much better,

417
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.880
but it maybe it looks so much
better because it was so bad.

418
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.000
But that you're he's the CEO guy
that that Mike Steves didn't want to be

419
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.640
that clearly Kevin Sumlin didn't want to
be, and really rich Rod didn't even

420
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.680
want to be. Yeah, they
were they were old football school guys.

421
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:23.599
And I think he nailed it right
there, Jay by saying, Uh,

422
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:26.960
we don't know if he's a good
offensive coordinator or not. That's the last

423
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:32.759
thing to fall into place, right
right, So we'll see what happens with

424
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:38.559
that. Um uh, let's talk
about uh Northwestern And I bring this up

425
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.680
too many times? Do you think
it's happening in other places more than we

426
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:48.799
know? You know? Do you
the only school I've been around under the

427
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:53.119
Oregon State when I was younger in
Utah State, and I never saw anything

428
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.839
like that anywhere, do you Jay? No? No, But I mean

429
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.680
I was only around one day,
I was only around Arizona. So but

430
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.480
you know, I mean, how
how visible would it have been? Though?

431
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:11.880
Yeah? Right right? But but
you trust you knew what kind of

432
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.799
person. Larry Smith and Dick Toomy
were right, and they wouldn't tolerate stuff

433
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.160
like that. So to me,
it starts at the top. Um,

434
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.359
if Dick Tommy had heard about any
hazing, it would have ended that day.

435
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:32.319
And I think you're right on that. But I could have seen.

436
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.160
I could have On the other on
the flip side of that, I could

437
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.960
have seen that happening while John mcavic
was here. I could have seen that

438
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.000
happening when Mike Stoops was here.
Remember that. Remember when they first got

439
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:45.880
here and guys were working out and
throwing up in the garbage cans, and

440
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.720
the way those guys yelled at the
players, and you know rich Rod and

441
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.480
some of those guys. So I
wouldn't put it. I wouldn't put it

442
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.279
past those guys. And Kevin Sung
probably wouldn't have given a crap. So

443
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.720
I could have seen it happening under
him. It's part of it's gonna be

444
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.920
depend on how much does your coach
care about what the hell is going on

445
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.359
in the program. What was so
surprising to me about it has been that

446
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:14.000
Pat Fitzgerald's reputation nationally has been it
didn't matter if he won that much because

447
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:18.279
he was such a terrific human being
and handler of young guys. And I

448
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.880
was finding out that apparently a lot
of stuff went on to either let go

449
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:27.160
or didn't know all about stuff that
you need to know about. So I

450
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:32.160
don't know, yeah anymore. Yeah, when you think about through the years,

451
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.359
right, do you think Ricky Huntley
would would have put up with Hazy?

452
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.720
I don't think Chuck Cecil would have
put up with with Hazy. No,

453
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.759
you know some of those guys that
have been you know, the guys

454
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.119
in the program, you know would
make Folds have put up with Hazing.

455
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:51.559
You know, you got it?
You gotta wonder. Yeah, yeah,

456
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.559
let's transition real quick, go ahead, go ahead. No, but things

457
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.920
have changed because outsiders no longer have
access, so they can't see it.

458
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.039
Laig deal, when we go to
camp coachiefs, we would have seen something

459
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:09.519
like that now there's no access where
an outsider could actually witness it. No,

460
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.960
very good point, great point.
In fact, Hey, I don't

461
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.920
know if you knew this but or
heard it. We spoke to one of

462
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.480
your old friends, Jim Young.
What a refreshing old man. And I

463
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:24.799
say that respectfully. Yeah. You
know, he wrote his memoirs about fifteen

464
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.599
years ago and gave me a copy. He couldn't get him published, And

465
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:34.119
I still have him in my desk
and I go back and reread them all

466
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.559
the time because there's two or three
chapters on the u of a years.

467
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.960
He just he took the blanket off
and showed you everything and talked about everything

468
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.720
that went on, from his personal
issues at home through trouble at players.

469
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:54.279
And boy he was I always had
great respect for him because he was straightforward,

470
00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:01.640
a lot like Larry Smith and Dick
and plus he won. I mean

471
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.839
it didn't have to be at a
high level. He went to Army,

472
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.000
and one remember how bad Army was. Yeah for a long time. When

473
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.480
that guy's sure a good thing.
He's in the Hall of Fame, even

474
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.240
though he didn't coach at big time
schools, because you know, you need

475
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.720
sixty percent of your games one right. That put him in because he belongs

476
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.960
in there. Yeah. He was
fun. You know. The time he

477
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.680
was here at Arizona as a as
a head coach was when I was in

478
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.079
high school and just that was when
my fandom was, you know, was

479
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:35.359
in its infancy. And just remember
all those games and how great it was.

480
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:37.319
I mean, you know eight,
three, nine two, a stretch

481
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:43.240
of three seasons. It were just
incredible for a team good. He told

482
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.160
me that. Uh, And in
the middle of his third year, Washington

483
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:50.920
called him and wanted to offer him
their job, the job they gave to

484
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:55.559
Don James, but that Dave's track
didn't tell him they had called for about

485
00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:00.240
two weeks. Oh man, and
the protocol Everyone solved protocol so seriously in

486
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.759
those days that the Washington a d
at the time just never called back.

487
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.480
So he was from that moment on
was upset at the U of A.

488
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.079
I was determined to leave the school
because of what they had done with the

489
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.639
Washington job. And he could have
saved us from Tony Mason. Oh yeah,

490
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:22.079
yeah, A man. All right, Greg, hey Man, go

491
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.480
back to your vacation, you know, back on the links ocreation. He's

492
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.880
gonna teasing retirement. I know he's
okay, go back to your retirement.

493
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.079
Now he's not retired, he's hey, keep doing the Sunday column. Okay,

494
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.679
it's good for my uh you know, it gets my Sunday going.

495
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.880
You know, when you don't do
it, I have a bad Sunday.

496
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.159
So I'm just gonna put that on
your plate right now. Okay. Well,

497
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.599
if it wasn't for you and about
three other people, there's no reason

498
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:50.639
to do it. It's good for
my health. I'm just I'll just leave

499
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:52.239
it at that. I pay for
your golf. You gotta pay for your

500
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:58.000
golf somehow. I hear you.
Thay, Greg, thanks a bunch.

501
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.079
Be well, we'll see you later. Fuck you, guys laying thank you.

502
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:06.440
He's always fun. Yeah yeah.
Out there, man eight thousand feet

503
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.000
in the cool, hitting his hitting
his driver to eighty because because of the

504
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.400
thin air, he's lying to us
when he says it doesn't carry any further.

505
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.519
I know it does, so I
would dream to hit it that far.

506
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.800
If Mike goes skips and skips and
skips, all right, let's take

507
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.199
our last break. We'll be back. We'll take your calls. Five two

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509
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four forty. We'd appreciate your call. Do some insight to whatever you're thinking.

565
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.039
Lots of stuff, man, So
let's go back to this um this

566
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.320
nil bill, that's that's out there
again. Even though Tommy Tuberville is a

567
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.360
big butt head I think, Um, he's part of this and he helped

568
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.000
sponsor this bill. It's got some
bipartisan supports, so was he if anything

569
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.159
happens with this is But as Ross
Dallinger, the now YEAHO supports guy commented

570
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.159
have been this is about a dozen
bills now and none of them have gone

571
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.400
anywhere. But some of the key
pieces of this is as I mentioned,

572
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:06.679
there was the um that athletes cannot
transfer or going to the transfer portal without

573
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.559
penalty for the first until after they've
completed three years of their eligibility. So

574
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.159
that's when the people are saying that
will never make it. UM. But

575
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.880
it's it's gonna require it's gonna we're
talking about it's basically gonna be sort of

576
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.880
an NFL system, right, agents, agents and collectives will have to register

577
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:29.519
with whatever governing body that's formed to
monitor this. UM. Contracts will have

578
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.280
to be done, and they'll have
to be disclosed to this governing body.

579
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:38.800
Um, they you know, you
won't you won't see you know who's got

580
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.920
the deals, but you'll see what
the deals are. Right. UM.

581
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:51.199
The collectives are gonna have to be
affiliated with their schools. So I don't

582
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.239
know if that makes them part of
the school administration or how that connection has

583
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.079
made obviously a lot of this stuff. And then you know, then some

584
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.400
things down the road, you know
ar you know, health insurance for the

585
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.119
athletes or even after they're they're done, particular stuff like that. So a

586
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.119
lot of a lot of you know, um protection for the athletes. But

587
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:15.599
you know, people are so up
in the air about this because here you

588
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:20.559
have what you know, where people
want less legislation of stuff, yet they're

589
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:25.559
going to legislate something that's never been
legislated before, and that's college athletics legislated

590
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.480
at the federal level. People just
have a bad feeling about all that.

591
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:35.719
Yeah. Yeah, well, so
it's a new world, a new horizon

592
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.760
or whatever you call it, to
a new situation. Certain things you need

593
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.320
to change, right, like with
the portal and nil like certain things you

594
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.719
need to change. But I don't
think it needs to get to the federal

595
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.039
level where they need to get involved
to start making no bills. And well,

596
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:52.960
the one thing it does say,
and one of the things that's trying

597
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:58.159
to do is to rain in all
these various laws that are being passed to

598
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.440
the different states and basically nullifies all
the state laws that have been passed and

599
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.599
says we're gonna have one thing,
and I think that's the one thing that

600
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.679
this does need. Rights. There
needs to be some consistency so that everybody's

601
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.920
playing on the same level, so
that you don't have the Tennessee Attorney General

602
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:24.679
threatening, uh, threatening the SEC
with a lawsuit if they if Tennessee breaks

603
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:30.719
the rules and gets banned from postseason
play, right because using their NIL law

604
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:36.719
to do that. And that's the
stuff that they're that they're trying to uh,

605
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.159
you know, trying to make sure
that that that happens. Um.

606
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.840
But you know, it's God,
I don't know, man, I don't

607
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.280
know, it's got you know,
it's got stuff like you know, NIL

608
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.239
agreements cannot involve alcohol, drugs,
uh, you know, and stuff like

609
00:42:53.360 --> 00:43:00.599
that, gambling, um, you
know, um, uh you know.

610
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:07.239
Just one it says ensuring that schools, conferences, and associations are not liable

611
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.719
for their efforts to comply with the
Pass Act. The pass Act is the

612
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.840
is the bill. I don't know, don't even know what that means.

613
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.920
UM. A lot of Title nine
language in there. Um. And then

614
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.599
it says requiring collectives and boosters to
be affiliated with a college or school.

615
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:29.280
So a headline in the ESPN thing
passed that the president, the president of

616
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:34.639
the NUBLE is is excited about it. Excited about this, but it doesn't

617
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.639
look like you said like you said, it's gonna pass. Well, the

618
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:38.440
thing about it is the nc double
A saying we don't want to have to

619
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.760
deal with this, and that's a
crap pass way to to, you know,

620
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.760
to handle something like that. If
they would have taken charge of this

621
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:52.079
that way back when, then we
wouldn't be here. Sure, sure you

622
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.480
don't. But when you open it
and we see we uh, you think

623
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:58.039
that everything's gonna be fine, right, and then when they open it and

624
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.239
it turns out to be this,
you thinking why why didn't we spend more

625
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:05.840
time with this? Because now it's
not it's not name, image and likeness

626
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.039
that you're selling. You're saying,
come here. You're paying them to come

627
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.800
here without ever having to use,
without doing anything right. And again that

628
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.199
gets back to what Jenny Dalton right
talked about, is that this is not

629
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.559
what n AL was supposed to be, right, and everybody knows that part.

630
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:22.440
I think they're trying to do saying
okay, if this is what it's

631
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.840
gonna be right, and then we
got to regulate it something tomorrow. We'll

632
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.239
get some more explanation in all this, right, uh, kind of because

633
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.840
we're gonna have Ray Wells back right
to talk about Arizona situation. Right because

634
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.280
they as he mentioned when he was
on our show a couple of weeks ago,

635
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:45.280
that the friends of Wilbur and Wilma
was establishing a football specific nil uh.

636
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.719
And that's what they're doing, called
the desert something collective. What do

637
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:52.639
we call it? I forgot the
name of it, but it's it's a

638
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:57.719
it's a it's light. It's like
the Arizona basketball one that got for himed.

639
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.440
So this is going to be specific
to football, so that if you

640
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.679
don't any money, you know it's
going to the football program. The question

641
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:06.920
is, then, what does that
leave for everybody else? Now there's a

642
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:12.159
football in aals, a man's basketball
in al If everybody's donating to those two,

643
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:16.280
what about the rest of the again
the uh, the uh step children,

644
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:21.280
if that's the right to get overlooked
or whatever. And we talked about

645
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.480
this a few times. Um,
the guys of the world, the the

646
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:30.719
swimmer or the diver rights are kidding
kind of like, uh oh, they're

647
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.440
the face of the program kicked to
the side, Yeah, a little bit,

648
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:37.239
unless you have some donors who are
specific for them, all right,

649
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:39.360
you know, and there might be
right, I think we I think everybody's

650
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:45.519
pretty much uh come to the conclusion
that Oklahoma has a has a sugar daddy,

651
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.719
Oklahoma softball as a sugar daddy,
and Oklahoma State has theirs with the

652
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:53.079
coil guy. Yeah, but that
but that it's specific to softball, and

653
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:58.440
that they're just going around and picking
and choosing the players that that they want

654
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.679
to bring into the program. Again, you know, is buying the best

655
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.400
ones that they can get, and
that they're gonna be really good like this

656
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:06.880
for a long time unless somebody else
comes along and does the same thing at

657
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.159
another school, you know, And
and you know, you got to have

658
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:13.559
somebody that chooses, you know,
a sport, right and then there are

659
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.480
there are there are rich people out
there who do that. Right, We'll

660
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.000
say, Okay, I love this
sport. I got you know, I

661
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.280
know I know a number of people
in businesses who really prefer to support women's

662
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:29.280
basketball over men's basketball. But are
they going to do that with millions of

663
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:35.559
dollars of money or even hundreds of
thousands of dollars to provide an a n

664
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.280
I l uh kind of war chest, you know for a sport like women's

665
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:45.840
basketball or softball or soccer or you
know, tennis or whatever. You know,

666
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:52.199
is there going to be any kind
of ability for those sports to you

667
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.079
know, to do it. And
maybe if none of the sports have that,

668
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.840
If if none of those sports at
other schools, you know, have

669
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.239
that, well then everybody's on the
same planefield anyways, then it becomes just

670
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.119
a football and men's basketball thing.
Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see what

671
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.920
happens. I feel sorry, and
that's not the right phrase, but it

672
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:15.000
feels sorry for for the smaller schools
that have don't have the resources like this,

673
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.639
the alums that they have or whatever. Well, you're just gonna go

674
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.440
to those schools and it's gonna be
like it always was, right in your

675
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.719
scholarship. You're gonna play for a
program, sure, and if you're good

676
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.199
enough, a pro sport will come
along and pick you up. And if

677
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.679
you're not sure, to get your
degree and you move on to the next

678
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.719
thing, right, I will.
It's just kind of elevated to pay for

679
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.800
play situation. It was it was
already there, or or you go to

680
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:44.599
one of those one of those schools
you get really good and then Alabama or

681
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.880
Oregon or USC or somebody comes comes
calling and says, Okay, come here,

682
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:51.280
you're really good, we'll give you
some money to come. Did you

683
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.039
did you read? I don't know
who it was. Maybe it was justin

684
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:58.760
or somebody else about the USC and
their and their situation. Was singer that

685
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.480
he had remembered the game he had
what what Caleb Williams said, yea,

686
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.639
are we gonna go get that guy? Go get that guy? So is

687
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:12.639
it that tampering? That's what somebody
said. I don't know, it's tampering.

688
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.440
If USC sent somebody to go get
that guy, yeah, it's not

689
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:22.320
tampering for him to say that,
But it is tampering. If Lincoln Riley

690
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.159
said to an n I l guy, go get him, that's tampering.

691
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.559
Jason nice catch come with us?
Yeah? Did? Or did? Caleb

692
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.519
Williams? You know you're shaking hands
after the game, you know, give

693
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:37.840
him a hug, whisper into his
helmet. Hey, we got some money

694
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:44.079
for you. That's tampering. Yeah, that's tampering. It's still too too

695
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:49.719
interesting for me. Yeah, but
exactly before you even started this. Uh

696
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.039
okay, you get really good,
get really good, and you go to

697
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:57.679
these places and then you don't fault
him, right, No. I was

698
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.079
trying to explain that to somebody about
about about Dorian Singer and that, you

699
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:04.800
know the story that the La Times
did. Ryan cart At the Only Times

700
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.719
did that said his intent when he
got here was to get good enough to

701
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.159
go somewhere else, right, And
that's what he did. Yeah, he

702
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.280
walked Nobody asked him an opportunity,
he walked on. He got good and

703
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:21.360
got himself a better opportunity, and
you almost can't fault him for That's that's

704
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:29.440
the purpose of college on America.
Yeah, that's it happen in the real

705
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.960
world too. You get a job
and then somebody else noticed you. Hey,

706
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.719
I'll get you more money here and
just come over here and play work

707
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:40.199
for us. It's called with the
capitalism of capitalism. Yeah, you know,

708
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.519
for some reason, and seeing that
that was his thought process when he

709
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.119
got here, I have way less
of a problem with him leaving for some

710
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.079
reason because it's kind of like that
was the plan. Yeah, he had

711
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.280
a plan he executed. He was
very good. He executed the plan.

712
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.679
Well, this is what the kids
are told all the time. Invest in

713
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.679
yourself, right, investing yourself,
because if you're not investing yourself, who

714
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:08.039
wins. Right, he did.
I can't falter him for that. I'm

715
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:12.280
about the other two guys, and
I care less about the other two guys.

716
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.000
I know they're pretty good. Visible. Dorian Singer was a you know,

717
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.679
was a big piece of what they
did last year. Uh And and

718
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.679
I can't imagine if this team had
Dorian Singer right now in terms of what

719
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.559
its offense could do. Yeah,
and they've got some more good guys,

720
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.599
but they're still gonna be very good, still gonna be very good, Yeah,

721
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.199
I think offense. Yeah. So
I don't know, I have less

722
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:37.480
of a problem with the fact that
that was the plan. And I was

723
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:38.960
initially pissed, like, what the
hell do you want? You're starting at

724
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:42.920
Arizona, why do you have to
leave? You know what, what do

725
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.280
you think is going to be better? And I lose the money money,

726
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:51.039
but the visibility playing for Heisman Trophy
winning quarterback, playing in Los Angeles,

727
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:52.920
playing in front of you know,
you know, in the LA Coliseum,

728
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.159
all those things, Well, mister
Gonzos. I'm Dorian Singer now, mister

729
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.440
miss Gonzos. Just because you have
been left too, son doesn't mean I

730
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.599
can't. I don't have to say
that. But you understand what I say.

731
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.480
Of course I agree. I love
the food here, but in La

732
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:16.159
they have pretty good food too,
they do. They do you much?

733
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.239
What's your favorite restaurant in Phoenix?
Your restaurant one part of ten? Um?

734
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.400
I don't hear your campus? Oh
Tempe? No, no, no,

735
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:32.000
no, no, Phoenix? Um. Yeah, yeah, I mean

736
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:35.639
I haven't been in a while,
and I usually just like order out,

737
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.679
though I don't really you didn't have
a go to place? No? I

738
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:39.559
don't you have a go to place
in Teashi? No? I don't.

739
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:45.119
Honestly, I mean I don't really
order was good though it was really good.

740
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:49.639
Cook a lot? Cook? Do
you do? Yeah, I'm gonna.

741
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:51.880
I'm a college student. I don't
have a lot of money be spending

742
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:57.719
everywhere. I need to cook.
Okay, what your go to place?

743
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:02.519
Oh? God, that's not fair
because probably I don't know, Sonic,

744
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.400
it's not Come on, dude,
that's what happened to doctor's office? Like

745
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:13.119
my house sucks, dude, I
should say that publicly about you don't have

746
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.639
like a favorite great restaurant that's not
fast food, No, no, I

747
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.199
just eat stuff. No god,
no, mister Odds. But can't go

748
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.480
there every day? I don't know, dude. No. I love Poco

749
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:28.320
Moms. That's my favorite place.
But that's too far. I take my

750
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.599
mom there as much as I can. Yeah, but it's it's not it's

751
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:35.320
too far. Yeah, but I
do have one. Oh see, and

752
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:37.719
you're not gonna eat there all that's
your eat there maybe two three times a

753
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:42.039
year. Oh yeah, see,
it's a it's a but when I say,

754
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.800
okay, if I'm gonna pick pick
a restaurant to go to first,

755
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.239
that's the one I take. It's
way up on Sunrise. Yeah. All

756
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.880
right, we gotta get out here. We'll be back tomorrow. Ray Wells

757
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.000
from the New Football Collective. We'll
be here. We'll talk some more na

758
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.400
l stuff, So be sure to
come back tomorrow. It's year a round