WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:28.320 Mmmm, hello, it is Tuesday, June thirtieth, twenty fifteen. That 2 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:33.039 means you're listening to the Giant Bomb Cast, which is a podcast, which 3 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:40.119 is an audio pod is a prerecorded audio show a varying length and topic. 4 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:46.759 Yes, the podcast was first popularized in two thousand and Jeff helped me out. 5 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:51.640 It's like a two thousand three probably and Adam Curry and met podcasting. 6 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:57.399 Okay, he was at pod zero. Yeah, that Pod zero. Probably 7 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.359 he is actually a thing. Oh yeah, I bet in there's probably some 8 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.599 company rap just violated copyright. I know, it's what we do here. 9 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:08.280 I'm typing pod zero into the internet and seeing what's coming back. Autonomous Vehicle 10 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:15.079 for the UK, a YouTube channel that seems to be posting pod videos okay, 11 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.359 really knocking them out of the park so far. And then some other 12 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.719 yeah, I don't know, right, some other stuff. Well, since 13 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.799 we're all about violating copyrights here, we've brought Dan reichord. Hey, how's 14 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:27.079 it going? You know, you know from copyrights? I do you are 15 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:32.760 all about brands? Yeah? I love brands, yep, they're great corporate 16 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.560 corporate marketing. Yeah, right up here, I'm totally in the brands. 17 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:38.280 Yeah, I like lots of them. They're people. I mean they're just 18 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:44.000 like people, sure, just like people. Oh, to balance out that 19 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:47.120 lunacy, Jason a strikers here, Well, yeah, he hates brands, 20 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:49.680 brands. Dan's always coming to me. He's like, I've got this great 21 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.120 idea. I'm gonna make mister Donalds. I'm like, no, no, 22 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.159 you can't. You can't do that. It's there's a McDonald's. No. 23 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.760 I think I think you know, I would think that if you hated brands, 24 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:01.319 you'd be all for it, Like, yeah, take the brands down 25 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:06.840 with more brands. No, I hate people infringing on other people. Do 26 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.520 you love? You truly love brands? You have a deep respect for I 27 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:14.120 have a respect, but not a love. The only brands that that Jason 28 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:16.360 loves is that knockout energy drink, Which what does it say about respect at 29 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:21.479 the top here? Respect all fear nuns Jason's can of energy. Asked me 30 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.479 how much I paid for this, I'll tell you one dollar plus tax to 31 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:28.240 the man. That's what it says on the Camp's what it says on the 32 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.080 camps. There's just a big miss. I don't know which man we talk 33 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.800 are we talking about? Like capital im man. Yeah, more than likely, 34 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:36.840 although it's not capital I don't think anything is capitalized except for knock Out 35 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:42.039 because that's all in caps. Low carb punch, Come get some does that 36 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.039 can have a Destiny code in it? I'm checking a tap have like the 37 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:49.800 lowt off brand? What is the low rent off brand Destiny? Uh? 38 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:52.919 Defiance? Okay, all right, that's fair. It's got Defiance codes on 39 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.319 it. Okay, all right, okay, well that's where those missions went. 40 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:59.080 Oh sweetened with Splenda? Does that show still on Defiance? Probably? 41 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:05.080 I saw an ad for it on PlayStation View said, hey, defiances on 42 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.639 Wait, there's ads on that thing? No, it was, it was 43 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.479 on there. It was. It's like on the the iPad version of it, 44 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.159 it comes up and says like, hey, this is something you could 45 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.960 watch. It's on wait my pad version of view. Yeah, oh can 46 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:20.479 you watch your view stuff on the iPad? DoD You guys just want to 47 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.719 talk about PlayStation view here. It's kind of curious. This is like an 48 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:27.319 alarmingly quick in getting down to business. But if you want to talk about 49 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.400 it, look, I'm not going to stop you. Yes, there is 50 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.639 an iPad version of the app. It does not work on your phone. 51 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:38.319 Okay. Also because television is such a fucking fucked up business with digital rights 52 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:43.479 being a nightmare and who can watch what where being this like huge point of 53 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.280 contention, Yeah, which is some the worst thing to me about about the 54 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.280 modern future of all. So here is a way that it manifests. It's 55 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:53.039 PlayStation view if for those that don't know, is a is a fifty dollars 56 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:55.879 a month. You can go to high seventy. There three programming packages. 57 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.759 It's a package of television channels that you can watch and the like kind of 58 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:04.439 virtually DVR using a PlayStation four, PlayStation three or iPad. Oh, I 59 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:10.400 didn't know there's a TVR stuff in there. That's cool, it's it's yeah. 60 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:15.199 But but and here's where these deals manifest. Some shows are flagged in 61 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.800 such a way that they cannot be viewed on mobile, So you call them 62 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:23.639 up on your iPad and it just says mobile restricted. That's like YouTube. 63 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:27.160 You know there's certain videos that you can't watch on mobile. Does that have 64 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:30.920 something? Yeah? Or usually that means it's a music video that's a bad 65 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.680 user experience or something like that. Or it's like every time I try to 66 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:38.000 watch SNL on Hulu. I never see the monologue because they almost inevitably sing 67 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:41.680 something that's copyrighted, and so you miss sketches that have like certain songs in 68 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.199 it. It's a little different, but yes, that's a fucked up situation 69 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.120 too. And then like rereleasing old episodes of Saturday Night Live has actually been 70 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:51.079 a hassle, like putting on with the state that that sketch comedy state, 71 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.920 like because they were on MTV, like they had a free and clear license 72 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:59.199 to use whatever songs they wanted, but then when it came time to sell 73 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:00.800 that on DVD, it was like, oh, well, we can't go 74 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.560 license all these songs now. Kids. It's so which even worse with Beavis 75 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.399 and butthead, because that's all that's all the good stuff from Beavis and butthead 76 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:11.120 is making fun of those music videos and any of those really exist. Yeah, 77 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.439 so yeah, that's that stuff's a nightmare. So yeah, PlayStation View, 78 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.120 I don't know, it's weird, it's it's not great, but I'm 79 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:23.000 still kind of holding out hope for it to be fair. Like it's a 80 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.279 great concept, Like I wish it was like an ala carte kind of thing, 81 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:30.360 but for somebody who's actually cut chords. I haven't at cable in years. 82 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:31.959 So to have an option like this where I don't have to go through 83 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:38.879 Comcast is it's kind of cool. Channel selections not bad, it's so so 84 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:43.759 I don't. I don't really watch television anymore. Yes, and it's been 85 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:47.759 this nightmare scenario where I'm paying Direct TV for every channel they will let me 86 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.720 buy good Lord Wow, which is one hundred and eighty dollars a month, 87 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:58.839 wow, just for TV, just for television, others for television that I 88 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.759 don't watch, which there's one channel you do want, which carries a program 89 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:06.079 that you also don't seem to want to watch. Ye. So yeah, 90 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:11.199 So I want a package that will let me watch USA because that's where the 91 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:15.199 wrestling lives. And sometimes even though I haven't, I have not watched any 92 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:20.560 wrestling in like two months, and it's been fucking great. Highly recommend it 93 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:25.040 has moved to USA, ohown, they're all on USA network. I don't 94 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:29.600 think anyone's watched SmackDown since two thousand and five. Yeah, even the biggest 95 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.199 wrestling fans don't. So or if it hasn't moved yet, it is moving 96 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:39.000 to US. I believe it didn't even know. Yeah, so in theory, 97 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.720 I may want to watch wrestling at some point because I still subscribe to 98 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.560 the w w E network. And if you don't watch the weekly shows, 99 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.879 then the the end of the month pay per view show doesn't make any sense. 100 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:55.240 And that's another situation important one might assume, and many people do that 101 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:59.120 the weekly television show would also be on the ww E network, but because 102 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.560 they have a deal with you essay in place, it doesn't show up there 103 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.600 for thirty days. The thing you want does not go on the service, 104 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:10.240 which point it's useless because if this is an ongoing saga, if I can't 105 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.839 watch these characters I don't care about do things that are poorly scripted that I 106 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.240 also don't care about in a timely fashion, then why am I watching? 107 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.399 You might lose interest in wrestling exactly. To be fair, most paper for 108 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:24.000 your matches start with like a three minute music. Yeah, everything they do 109 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:28.120 like what you know at that point, like why why even watch the wrestling? 110 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.600 Just watch like the reekend. Now you're getting it off, Now you're 111 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.480 getting there. Yes, so streamlining and closer to the ultimate truth. Yes, 112 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.920 yes, so I need to cut out the fluff of Direct TV because 113 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:46.240 yeah, so none of the other packages had USA up until this point, 114 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.360 I have a Sling TV subscription. They provided one when it rolled out on 115 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.720 an Xbox one to test that out, which I can say with some certainty 116 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.639 that it is maybe the worst u I I've ever seen for selecting television shows 117 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:03.480 and watching them followed closely by PlayStation view, which I actually think is a 118 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.639 terrible experience. Like the UI of it is hellish. So I thought that 119 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:13.040 thing was limited to the PS four since it's on it is an iPad. 120 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.920 That's it. No other It doesn't spool out to anything else. No, 121 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:18.279 No, I don't think so. There might be an android appen I don't 122 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.240 know, but it only works on tablets. It's iPad specific, like not 123 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:26.040 your phone, which I hate when people do that. I hate when that 124 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.399 happens. Frankly, would like the UI. I don't think they could put 125 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.480 that on a phone as well. Yeah, and maybe it's something they'll do 126 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.200 eventually, or maybe there are other weird licensing things for a phone size screen 127 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.080 that make it even more hellish to negotiate or something. I don't know. 128 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:45.559 So this thing is offers a package of channels for fifty dollars a month. 129 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.919 Uh, and then you can step it up for sixty or seventy if you 130 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:50.919 want to step up to higher tiers of programming, you have any say at 131 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:56.279 all which channels zero say, there is a fifty dollars package called Access and 132 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:00.000 then you go to Core and you got a premiere or whatever. Sound them 133 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.559 much different from Cable. It's totally not. But but it is fifty dollars 134 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.000 a month instead of the way more I am paying. Sure, and it 135 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.600 has the one channel I might want to watch. Theoretic, I theoretically want 136 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:16.200 that. I feel like it's all very tentative here. This is baby steps 137 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.200 to me eventually just saying you know what, I don't need that either, 138 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.759 because let's get this ship out of my life. But until then, there 139 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:26.120 is this draw, this desire to have USA. Sure, I feel the 140 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:30.000 same way. Well, if I wanted to watch burn Notice, Royal Pains, 141 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:37.600 white collar suits, this amazing USA original programs, mister robot Cron actually 142 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.240 runs a lot of burn Notice. Really yeah, syndication now, yes, 143 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:46.600 it's been on for long. Ast Hunt So I signed up for PlayStation View. 144 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.600 They rolled it out in the San Francisco Bay area back at E three. 145 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.159 So I signed up for the free trial, which just expired yesterday of 146 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.200 the day before. So you've now paid I guess yeah, I'm now I'm 147 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.440 in for a month. I'm in for a month to see how well it 148 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.600 works. It's ver easy to cancel, like that's right in the app and 149 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.600 all that sort of stuff, Like I still can't figure out how to cancel 150 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:05.960 EA access, but you're still in it. I've signed it for a year, 151 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.399 so it hasn't cost me any more money yet. But I have no 152 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.039 fucking I've looked, like multiple times, no fucking idea how to cancel that 153 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.919 thing? Do you still have it? Yep? He totally has it. 154 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:22.279 Yeah I do. No. I've received multiple tweets as well telling me how 155 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.039 exactly how to cancel it. Forward one of those to me, I think, 156 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.519 I will, you know what, we have to do this together. 157 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.519 I've had a reminder in my iOS reminders app for like three months now that 158 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:37.320 says cancel Spotify question Mark. Every time it rolls around, I just go 159 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.360 in there and increment the month one like every time it pops up. I'm 160 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.559 just like, I'll push it out another month and see if I want to 161 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.679 cancel by then I'm always I just always forget. Yeah, it's okay, 162 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.879 I may sign up for Beats Music. Really wait, they're going to allow 163 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:56.519 people to stream the Chronic. I should hope exclusively on Apple's music service. 164 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.559 I should hope so, but it is all Beats Music. It's called I 165 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.799 guess it's Apple Music. And then the radio station they're launching is Beats one, 166 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.399 which it launches today as this terrestrial broadcast radio. It is not no, 167 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:11.360 no, it's not industrial it is it is a So they are launching 168 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:16.799 a twenty four hour a day I guess like they're launching live programming, huh, 169 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.519 with one radio station to cover every genre. Because that's the way this 170 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:26.279 is going. That's the direction everything's moving. I can't say, I'm not 171 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:31.200 at liberty to discuss the availability of the Chronic two thousand and one at this 172 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.879 time. There's the station that album is just called two thousand and one. 173 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:35.960 Is the station just loop the Chronic twenty four hours a day? Because that 174 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.759 would yeah, that would be good. Are they are they going the serious 175 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.279 route and getting like like celebrity djas and stuff. They they but they have 176 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.279 programming blocks that they're set to launch. They went and they they got Zane 177 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.720 Low out of the UK and he's like a popular DJ there, I guess. 178 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:52.320 And then they moved into Los Angeles and now he's just like going to 179 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.200 be some British guy interviewing Eminem but now he'll do it from LA instead of 180 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:01.080 over there. Uh. And they're gonna have broadcasting emanating from LA New York 181 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.200 and London, and then they'll have programs that are hosted by artists. So 182 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.720 they say doctor Dre will be hosting a show on this Beats one. And 183 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:15.080 everything they've announced so far has been very focused on, uh like hip hop 184 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.039 and dance music and stuff like that. So whenever you see comments on a 185 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.679 story about this thing, I guess read O, don't forget what side I 186 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:22.759 was on today. But what are they gonna announce? Some real music, 187 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.440 some fucking guitar rock knock this boom boom boom shit h the accent. The 188 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.320 accent was not in the original writing, but I can only assume it was 189 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.840 there. I like all music except for wrapping country. Yeah, then maybe 190 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:41.320 Beats one will be for you. Uh yeah yeah, yeah, that's that's 191 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.480 weird, so weird. So but I mean it's weird to only have one 192 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.200 station, and it's weird to call it radio, so they're doing that. 193 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.240 And then it is also well not necessarily calling it radio, but it is. 194 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:54.399 It is stream you know, any day okay, and then they'll have 195 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.320 a Spotify like service there too. And this is the thing that Taylor Swift 196 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.720 got into a tiff. Yeah yeah, the other week, right yeah, 197 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.639 ok. And then she is allowing her album to be on there because they 198 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.720 said, okay, we'll pay. It isn't like Farrell doing an exclusive one 199 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.720 just for they'll do some song or our album or something, because that's what 200 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.279 people want. It's called Freedom, which I find really funny. I wonder 201 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.080 if it's walking it behind this day wall? Is it coming out under four 202 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.720 No I means so called freedom, Well it might. I mean I think 203 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:28.879 the station will launch Tuesday of this today, Okay, so who knows when? 204 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.039 I don't know when that thing's coming out? Is this the real reason 205 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:35.919 Apple bought beats? It's not for the headphones? Really, yeah, they're 206 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.360 their own. Streaming stuff was pretty anemic and this kind of buttons it up. 207 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:43.320 But you know, the headphones aren't are are popular? Is sure? 208 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.080 There's been a new round of people tearing those things now, or someone did 209 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.200 a tear down of the Beats headphones said, there's eleven dollars worth of stuff 210 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.519 these. I mean, my understanding is that they've always been like, right, 211 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:56.559 decent but not amazing headphones. Technically I like them, but there's a 212 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:01.000 huge you know, I'm not I'm saying they're bad name. You know, 213 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.279 there's they're pricey, there's a there is a massive like brand premium. There, 214 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:09.279 there's brands again like brands. Yeah. Yeah, mine actually my, 215 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.480 my, my pair of those are old enough that they still have the Monster 216 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:15.799 logo on them. Fuck yeah, oh right they were Monster. Yeah, 217 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.720 well that explains everything. Totally fucked over Monster and which you know, how 218 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.480 can you be mad at a company that then totally over Yeah, that's fair 219 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.759 getting it for their one hundred dollars HDMI cables or whatever. Anyway, PlayStations 220 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.840 in view, Yeah, you go into the program and guide and you say 221 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.039 this is a show that I want add it to my shows and then so 222 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.759 that's where the DVR type stuff comes in. It does not record things to 223 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.320 your hard drive. Oh are you just gonna stream it once you decide to 224 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.759 watch it? Yes, but you have to opt into that show. If 225 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.159 you can't go back the past thirty days and watch anything that's air, oh 226 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.279 what, you have to flag it and say this is a show I want 227 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.240 to watch. So only from the point after which you flagged it can you 228 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.240 watch new episodes? You can't. Oh that's terrible. Yeah, that's terrible. 229 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.519 Less it's available on demand, which some of the companies that already have 230 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:03.679 on demand options, like Adult Swim, some old episodes will show up there. 231 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.559 So if you flag Tim and Eric awesome show, yeah, there will 232 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.840 be about nine episodes you could watch immediately because they're available on demand. Okay, 233 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:11.360 isn't that how basic cable and DVR works? Like you can't just say, 234 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.559 hey, DVR raw and record every like previous raw. It's from the 235 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.960 moment you set it to record. That's but that's but that's that's that's like 236 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.240 that's how the technology works. Yeah. Like in that case, like there's 237 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.399 the recording is like a commodity in a local sense, you know, like 238 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.799 you're saying, just like this hard drive space on my DVR is being used 239 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.960 up because I hit that record. But that thing, that thing has a 240 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.159 streaming functionality. It's like you have to well it does actually TV Box will 241 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.759 do on demand and stuff. So but what you're like, there's no, 242 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:43.120 there's no technical reason that you couldn't stream past episodes. It's just an arbitrary 243 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:45.200 So this is like like a business thing. Yeah, this is like on 244 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:46.679 it if I went to HBO go and I said, hey, I want 245 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.240 to watch a True Detective, but I could only watch one's going forward, 246 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.159 even though I could totally stream older ones, well you can't say, but 247 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:56.120 yeah you can't view if you like, if you went and opted in the 248 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.480 True Detective today, you would not be able to stream those first two unless 249 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.159 they were all on demand, right, if they've been flagged to be on 250 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.559 Demado, what's awful? So a lot of that stuff is yeah, like 251 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.120 you you just never know what you're gonna get. There's so little consistency there 252 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:15.480 between like what device you're on and the individual program that it's impossible to kind 253 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.159 of like you have to flag a show and then be like, all right, 254 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:18.879 can I is there anything I can watch now? No? Okay? 255 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:22.000 And then so the other issue that I was running into, specifically with the 256 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:27.480 wrestling is that I flagged Monday Night Raw to be recorded. It's on Monday's 257 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:33.440 weird, I know. But they air some kind of truncated replay version of 258 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.200 the show on Universal HD, which is another channel, uh on the weekend 259 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:40.000 or something like that, and that's like, I don't know, one hour 260 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.320 or two hours, So it's some kind of weird recap version of how long 261 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.840 is it? The real? Three hours? It's a bad show. Wow, 262 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:51.720 it's a don't fucking watch wrest tonight right afterwards? Do you do? 263 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.519 You are you like glued to it or you like is your attention just wraps 264 00:16:53.519 --> 00:17:00.519 the aar? Do not do not watch it live because the there are a 265 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:04.000 lot of commercial breaks one and most of it is bad. So and if 266 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:07.480 you watch on a DVR, well, second of all, the there's the 267 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:11.200 commercial problem, which is constant, but also something will happen at seven o'clock 268 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.680 where it's like brock Lessner did a thing, and then at seven thirty at 269 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.759 eight eight thirty nine, you'll see like basically the full segment again, hey 270 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.960 earlier tonight, So you're wasting like thirty minutes watching the same format segment over. 271 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:26.720 They're just padding out their ad inventory. Yes, yeah, totally's man, 272 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:32.119 why would you do this yourselves every week? Since ninety three. It's 273 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:37.400 a bad goddamn show. Yeah, there is no off season. It's so 274 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.240 when I flagged that show to be recorded, it seemed like it was favoring 275 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:48.680 these truncated versions over the actual show and not giving me the full three hour 276 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.640 show. So you're looking at the actual channel listing you've got, I'm say 277 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.039 it's a big three hour chunk. I'm looking at it and going like, 278 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:57.440 man, fuck this, I'm going into that. I'm hitting recorded. It's 279 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:02.559 but it's not recorded add to my shows. And then the Universal HD logo 280 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:04.519 is on that program, and I'm like, Okay, that's not the one 281 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.039 I want. I don't know what's going on there. So it as it 282 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:11.759 turns out, and here's the way that might be an end around for this. 283 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.079 I have subscribed to the lowest level package, which gets USA but not 284 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:21.640 Universal HT gotcha. So I will find out Monday night of this week whether 285 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:23.359 or not whether or not to work or not, and if it gonna records 286 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.799 Superstars now, okay, yeah, that's fine. No, but if it 287 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.599 doesn't record a three hour raw with the full overrun and all that other stuff, 288 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.519 then I'm going to cancel it immediately because it doesn't meet my needs wrestling. 289 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:40.559 But the Universal station also has like Ring of Honor and that's Destination America, 290 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.680 Destination America which is on there, so I can be watching t NA 291 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.759 wrestling and Ring of Honor wrestling. Jeff Jarrett won the King of the Mountain 292 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.079 Tournament the pay per view last night. A spoilers, man, come on 293 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.200 out, I'm gonna have to stop you right there. So that's in the 294 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.000 basic Take this opportunity to pitch the Power bodcast. Oh yeah, which, 295 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.200 yeah, we've been talking about what to do with that thing. We have 296 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.759 bombs only home for wrestling discussions, right we haven't. We haven't done one 297 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.960 of those in a while because it's been fucking terrible. I also e three 298 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:15.160 as it kept us very busy. But but the morale for watching wrestling around 299 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:21.359 these parts has been let's say, low, speak for yourself. Even you 300 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:26.839 have come in and said, it's been real bad. It's y. So 301 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.839 PlayStation view sounds kind of top heavy, like it sounds a little it sounds 302 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.680 a little too much like cable like buy it in, Buy it in at 303 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:37.039 a relatively high price for a bunch of still a bunch of channels. You 304 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.880 might not want. It's just too much like the old model to me. 305 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:44.200 Yeah, Sling TV has had, you know, has been doing sort of 306 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:48.440 the same thing with a different package of channels that you might like more or 307 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.640 less. The l Ray network is available there. If you want to watch 308 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.160 Luca Underground I do, then you need to sign it for Sling because they're 309 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.559 not on PlayStation view. Because that's the nightmares future we're getting into where people 310 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.240 fucking side with one service or over another and you will want to watch one 311 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.359 channel on each and you're just fucked forever. Also, there's no like super 312 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.440 premium channels like HBO Showtime. Yeah, Sling has some of that stuff. 313 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:17.279 I think Sling has HBO, but yeah, really I think they do. 314 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.000 I think they do. Don't quote me on that, but they have they 315 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.440 have some stuff. Oh yeah, HBO has got stuff on even Amazon Prime. 316 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:26.200 Now there they are branching out. I mean you can just go like, 317 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.880 sign up for HBO. Let's separate. I didn't know if they were 318 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.720 trying to keep all their stuff in their own bucket. Yeah, they are 319 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:34.279 letting it out there. It'sn't even like Showtime on Hulu. Nos. So 320 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.440 Showtime has been a lot more free wheeling with that stuff in hbio traditionally. 321 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:41.720 Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know anything that is trying to 322 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.920 emulate the kind of the old media frameworks, like if you know, if 323 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:47.839 it's trying to reproduce the cable experience in some way, like seems like the 324 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:51.240 wrong way to go, Like that seems like that's not the way forward. 325 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:53.759 No, Like at some point, like any show that's not like that doesn't 326 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.039 have to air at a set time needs to stop airing at a set time 327 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:03.000 exactly, and they need to divorce themselves from the linear format completely. And 328 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.119 on top of that, like Netflix is gaining power by the day in terms 329 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.480 of like production of their own original content, Like they just they signed their 330 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:12.960 first feature film production recently, Like like they're becoming like a legitimate studio. 331 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:15.799 Now yeah, I don't. I don't have a Netflix subscription, right, 332 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.200 But it's just an example of the things they're actually going. Like the networks 333 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.519 should be sweating this stuff. Yeah, and and you know it's gonna be 334 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.440 you know, I think that I look at like PlayStation View and Sling and 335 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:29.000 stuff like that as like a series of half steps that will get us to 336 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:32.640 where we want to go eventually one way or the other, but success or 337 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.079 fail, it'll lead the way forward. Sure, but right now, you 338 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.359 know, you have too many of these programmers that are like wanting to cling 339 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:44.400 to these old concepts of bundling these channels together because they're not idiots. They 340 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:47.000 look at somebody, Hey, no one ever wants to watch this bullshit, 341 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:48.960 so we've got a package in with this other thing and force people like, 342 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:52.640 hey, they've got one thing you want and nine things you don't. Good 343 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.440 luck. How many channels is the fifty dollars package? I want to say 344 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:57.640 it's fifty channels, but I can't. I can't say off the top of 345 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:00.920 my end that's decent. I guess yeah, Like there's at least a pretty 346 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:04.640 healthy assortment, like when you yes by the numbers and in terms of math, 347 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.640 you look at and go like, yeah, this is still cheaper than 348 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.279 even the cheapest some of the cheapest cable packages, unless you're bundling up and 349 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:18.680 doing something weird. And it seems reasonable assuming you want to watch a lot 350 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.079 of that stuff. You know, I PlayStation Views got Comedy Central, so 351 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.000 if you want to watch that stuff, it's there. You want country music 352 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.759 television, which just shows totally runs all day long, which is the most 353 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:33.400 country of Country Island, just like G four. It was all cops are 354 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.920 he runs a Yeah? And fast Lane the Bill Bellamy show. That was 355 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:42.240 a big Big four. Speaking of a reality show, no, it was 356 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:47.920 not a reality show. Okay, I mean he's the realist, but position 357 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:49.920 a reality No, No, it's called fast Lane. It was a cop 358 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.640 show, all right. Speaking of comedy social, have you guys seen this 359 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:57.440 monthlong Daily Show marathon they're doing online on the Comedy Central website. They are 360 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:00.640 streaming every episode of the Daily Show ever, back to back, even Kilburn 361 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:04.400 morning and night. I've no no. They started with the John Stewart's probably 362 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:07.160 probably just the John Stewards. I remember wondering if John Stewart could hack it 363 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.359 because I was a fan of the Daily Show with Craig Kilbourn. Yeah, 364 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:11.319 it was a fucking trip. I pulled it up last night and they were 365 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.440 they were still in nineteen ninety nine and there is like super young looking John 366 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.839 Stewart talking Bill Clinton era Daily Show. Ye cred. It was crazy to 367 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.359 see. Uh, And I wish I had thought to see where they're at 368 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:26.000 right now. I kind of wanted to catch the nine to eleven episode. 369 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:29.359 Oh yeah, just as you know. I was actually going back thinking like 370 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.240 all right, what are what are like all of the major news milestones of 371 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:33.920 the last like you know, fifteen years. Sure, they was at the 372 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:37.599 best I think during the el like the O eight election. Yeah, like 373 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:40.359 around election time, Like they didn't seem to have a way to like kind 374 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.119 of tell you had to eyeball the episode to figure out where they're at. 375 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:45.319 They didn't have like a thing on the side saying like it's from this date 376 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.839 or whatever. But it was still a crazy little like online time capsule. 377 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.519 Yeah, that's cool. It's cool looking back to old episodes of the Daily 378 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.240 Show and just seeing the just the pedigree of like, yo, there's Colbert, 379 00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:59.039 There's Correll, you know, ed Helms, all these guys that went 380 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:02.480 on to a really six that's careers outside of the Daily Show. Yeah, 381 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:07.079 launched a lot of stars. I've not watched the Colbert replacement show. Yeah 382 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.759 though he uh yeah, Larry Wilmore, Yeah More. I always liked him 383 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:12.880 in a segments on the Daily Show. I think I've only seen like one 384 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.359 episode of the Nightly Show. It seemed alright. I've seen some of the 385 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.400 John Oliver thing on HBO two. He seems to be really yeah, yeah, 386 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.720 he seems sharp. When he took over for Colbert first steward there for 387 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.000 a little bit, right, Yeah, I was directly yeah, those were 388 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.519 quality shows. Yeah. Yeah, obviously HBO saw that, and it's like, 389 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.519 Okay, this guy can It's been interesting watching Colbert kind of ramp up 390 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.839 to the debut of his show because he's been they've been starting to put out 391 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.599 some videos and you know, some podcasts and stuff like that, and it's 392 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:44.400 like this weird walk the line like character thing of like I don't know where 393 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.759 he's coming from. What if he has a hard time breaking out of it 394 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.839 after so long. Yeah, he's a super talented guy. I'm totally totally 395 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.519 totally do whatever he wants. But I think he might still kind of be 396 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.160 playing up the like arrogant news persona thing, but just not the conservative bill 397 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.759 O'Reilly thing, right, which is kind of like latter day bear rapport kind 398 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:03.440 of got into like got a little closer to that. Anyway, it was 399 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.279 winking a little more. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's a that's gotta 400 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.160 be a weird thing to think about of like Okay, like how much of 401 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:11.759 this is going to be me, how much of this is gonna not be 402 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.839 or how much of this is already me? Or yeah, because traditional Late 403 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.519 Night like no one's playing a character, you know, Letterman Leno Conan. 404 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.960 They were always like, it's like kind of they're playing the ultimate character, 405 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.359 the fucking hyped up version of themselves that's on television. You know, for 406 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.119 a lot of them are just trying to amulate Carson or whatever. It's just 407 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.160 kind of a middle of the road and sort of safe as you can get. 408 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.440 Have They said when he's starting eight, I think, yeah, is 409 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:40.680 it gonna be called the Late Show? It's the Late Show with Yeah, 410 00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:42.599 he announced the band and everything. Uh yeah, there are a lot of 411 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.640 videos on I think it might just be Late Show dot com or CBS dot 412 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.519 com slash Late Show. It seems pretty good, well from what I've seen, 413 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.119 and he brought over a lot of really good writers, like old Conan 414 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.519 writers. Yeah cool, it's a Letterman, like you know, it's like 415 00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.720 famously did not get the Tonight Show, but like arguably did one better and 416 00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.400 like trying to created his own right. He created the show like worthy of 417 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.880 keeping the name around for the next guy. Right, that's kind of a 418 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:08.240 pretty big thing in itself, and when it was setting down, Letterman, 419 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:11.720 I think is way more respected by everyone than Leno, especially after the Leno 420 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.720 Conan thing and everything, like yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, definitely. 421 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.400 Yeah, seems to be the case. Speaking of strong chins, who 422 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:25.559 wants to talk about bat bo boom? Holy shit, that's that's that's the 423 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:27.400 worst second. But you got I will talk about you gotta have a good 424 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:32.480 talk about. You've gotta have a good angular jaw to carry that mask off. 425 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:36.079 Have we all beat it? Yes, let's spoil the ship out of 426 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:37.400 this. I played the ship out of that game. Yeah, I've played 427 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.240 like ten hours in a row and beat that game. You beat it, 428 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.160 Brad, you beat it? Yes, Jeff, were you at I blew 429 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.519 up as chemicals and I don't know if I'm gonna play anymore. Really, 430 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.880 Okay, pretty early on, you're pretty early. Yeah, I got it. 431 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.640 Got past the point of of like where we ended in the quick lists, 432 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:59.640 like disarming that bomb and then crossed the bridge cross okay, the second 433 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.839 island yeah, ok. And then it was like you know what, yeah, 434 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.559 not getting me good? Yeah? I love it. I'd say, 435 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.039 it gets a little more expansive or it kind of widens out a little bit 436 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:12.720 from there, but you know, totally, but it's more of that stuff, 437 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.839 like it doesn't change. Look from I think this is all incredibly well 438 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:21.960 made and it has been for years and I and it's not for you. 439 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:26.160 I don't necessarily do anymore of it. It's the Batmobile stuff I think is 440 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.279 pretty lame, but the rest of it is sound like if you just finish 441 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:33.359 ace Chemicals, that is one of the most heavy, like Batmobile, Like 442 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.079 that mission was the one where I was super worried. It was constant Batmobile 443 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.319 stuff. They pour it on real thick the first few hours, like it's 444 00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:41.880 always there, like you're always going back to the Batmobile. But that the 445 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.079 first few hours, I was like, if the whole game is nothing but 446 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.480 this, Like I'm not super thrilled about that. Yeah, and it does. 447 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.440 They get a little more of the predator stuff in and like the traditional 448 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:55.240 Batman sneaking around type stuff, but they're still still a huge amount of it. 449 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:57.720 No, okay, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that is where 450 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:03.640 I am. Yeah. Yeah. The only times they really forced on you 451 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:07.599 heavy after that ace Chemical section is just a couple like Arena poor Man's twisted 452 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.160 metal things where it's like, oh, here's twenty five drone tanks and they're 453 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:12.960 gonna, you know, you just have to. I think for me, 454 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.000 it's like I really really liked those first two games a lot, and that 455 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.880 third one I thought was overkill. Did you did you play through Origins? 456 00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.839 No? No? I okay, I played more of that than I've played 457 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.000 this, but definitely kind of got to a point where, like, you 458 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.319 know what, like these mechanics are well worn, like they are expertly fucking 459 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:36.920 crafted, like revolutionized melee. People steal things from Batman every goddamn day, 460 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.640 and they're right to do so, because that stuff was fan fucking tastic. 461 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.599 But at this point between the other games that have done that combat and you 462 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.359 know, Origins being a bummer, and like I feel like maybe if Origins 463 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.480 hadn't come out and I hadn't had like like it had been a good long 464 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.160 time, because it's been oh yeah, I'll come back to Batman. I 465 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.200 think it's been almost four years since City. Yeah, that's why I was 466 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.799 so glad that, like I played a couple hours Origin, Like I got 467 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.599 up to the first death stroke fight and I was like, man, this 468 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.039 this is just not grabbing me at all, and it's a strange departure. 469 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:08.599 Yeah. Yeah, so so I just played like two hours of it and 470 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.519 then I heard the story was good, but I'm not that bad. Yeah, 471 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.039 gameplay was just as formula as you know, some of the other Markham 472 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.799 games. But but yeah, outside of that like two hours that I dabbled 473 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.880 with it, I did feel like I had that long break and like Asylum 474 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.319 especially was one of my favorite games last generation. Yeah, because I had 475 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.319 that fucking one of the best games ever made, is concerned. Yeah, 476 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:30.920 I think so totally. It's still the best game in the series too, 477 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.680 I think, so yeah, this this is my easy number two. Yeah, 478 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.880 I agree with it. Yeah. I liked City. Yeah, I 479 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.279 ended up like a City a lot. You know, like like you're you're 480 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.880 right about the tightness of Asylum, and you know, obviously it's the first 481 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.480 game of the series, especially with it being like groundbreaking, yeah, revolutionize 482 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.079 those concepts and and all that sort of stuff. But yeah, so I 483 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.839 think part of it is just like a fatigue with you know, the way 484 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:59.279 those different systems come together after having enjoyed those games, Like I just don't 485 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:00.720 you know, it's it's not something I'm interested in doing. Again, I 486 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.000 can see that, and they do lean very very heavily upon you know, 487 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.599 and they're right to do so. And you know, like those games were 488 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.920 fucking rad. Although I would I would, I would say there are aspects 489 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.720 to the melee and the predator stuff in this game that are they kind of 490 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.559 go a little too far with like they're especially towards the end of the game, 491 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.799 like the melee fights, there are there are one too many types of 492 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.000 enemies, and they and they pour them into the like kind of enemy configurations 493 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.599 a little too heavily. It's once they start doing like, okay, so 494 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.519 now these white medic guys not only can they heal them, they can also 495 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.839 make these guys sparkly and electric. It's like, okay, so you'll get 496 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.599 into a situation where you're fighting like twenty guys and maybe five or six of 497 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.079 them in that group, you can actually just hit everybody else of them. 498 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:41.880 You have to stun them first. Everybody else everybody's got a shield or a 499 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:48.000 sword or a zappy baton or there's some reason that you either you'll either like 500 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.400 break your combo and just hit a wall or you'll literally take damage by trying 501 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.480 to attack him. You know, it's like one constantly and think like, 502 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.440 okay, yeah, is this the guy that I have to Okay, stun 503 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.039 him, then I jump over him, then I can do the beatdown move. 504 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:03.440 So, like I enjoyed this first game. I'm like, that's what 505 00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.960 I really loved it. I did every combat challenge in the first game, 506 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:08.640 like I got all the achievements because I thought I thought they struck a good 507 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.640 balance of like all right, when you step up to the high difficulty levels, 508 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.799 we'll add some more of those types of guys. But but in this 509 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.759 they're just everywhere and it's too much. I dig that. I totally dig 510 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.799 that. Yeah, it's because it's strategic, you know, I gotta make 511 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.200 use of all of my gadgets. That sh It's fun to me. But 512 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.240 if it's too overwhelming for you guys, I can but I'm looking. I 513 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.119 thought I thought Asylum was perfect on that. The same thing with the challenge 514 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.960 things. Yeah, totally it was perfect. I thought it's still great, 515 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.480 it's still incredible. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I really enjoyed this 516 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:37.880 game overall. Like I think the world design is a lot better, Like 517 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.119 the city is more is more diverse, there's more stuff going on, like 518 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.079 moving in and out of story objectives and then back out of the end of 519 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.119 the world is a lot more seamless. Ye. Like the wheel thing when 520 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.599 you would hold in right on the dpad and it would show you just kind 521 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.400 of like how many meters, it was like, Okay, well I want 522 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:53.880 to do this two faced thing or that still makes sense, but it's I 523 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.880 don't know, like maybe it's just part of my problem with the game overall. 524 00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.440 But I popped the wheel open and just look at the stuff available and 525 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.640 go don't want to do any of that. Yeah, a lot of it. 526 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.920 A lot of it is very repetitive, like you know, you're disarming 527 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.640 like landmines they've played story taking out checkpoints and like those that are like look 528 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:10.799 for firefight. They are like two dozen of those. You know, Like 529 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.720 there's a lot of that stuff and they're very very similar. Yeah, like 530 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.400 all the two faced stuff, the bank robberies, you know, those are 531 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.279 all very similar. Stuff with Penguin is is the same. The way I 532 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.000 muted though, was instead of like backing out to a menu and be like 533 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.119 I want to try, you know, to get three stars on a Predator 534 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.960 challenge. Yeah. My thought was like the two faced stuff was a nice 535 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.680 way to incorporate that into the story. Right. It's like when I wanted 536 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.440 to do a predator challenge, it's like, Okay, I'll just go to 537 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.200 a two face you're right, you're right. Like they they didn't abstract the 538 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:37.759 challenges out to a separate menu anymore. They're just all in the world, 539 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.440 but they still have in the menu. There's still a separate R challenge those 540 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.000 those those also exist in the world, like you can't do those from the 541 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:45.519 menu if you want, but they're also just there. You can just stumble 542 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.839 into them. One thing I super loved it wasn't it kind of it was 543 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.880 all in the story was the different ways you would do the detective stuff where 544 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.680 it's like, I don't know, if you got to the thing where there's 545 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.640 like a car crash and you're trying to figure out like where someone exited the 546 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.079 car, and like, okay, I gotta rewind this and see where the 547 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.680 door flew and then maybe I can. You got the kind of holographic projection 548 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.079 of whatever that hollow lens that's from Origins actually, yeah, yeah, that 549 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.079 was Origins all the times the scrubbing through the timeline stuff is all, oh 550 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.960 shit, Okay, I guess I didn't get to that stuff. But they 551 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.400 also had in this one. Yeah, man, that's a bummer. I 552 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.559 thought that they would have scrapped all that shit because because I like, there's 553 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.960 a little bit of like the monitor stuff as part of the story. It 554 00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.200 was the monitor stuff in Origin where it was like, hey, I'm gonna 555 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.799 focus in on this cell and there's where a guy put his hand talking about 556 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.960 scrubbing through footage like security cam footage or whatever. Yeah, like that in 557 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.759 Origins, yes, okay, but it was it was in World you were 558 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.400 standing somewhere and rewinding stuff. There's a fair amount of that in here too. 559 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.079 So I thought all the gadgety detective stuff like we're talking about here was 560 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.240 pretty good in this game, but I didn't realize how much of it was 561 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.640 like that specific like that was the thing in Origins. Was like, now 562 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:52.640 you can rewind it and put it together for the like, that was the 563 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:58.279 the thing right in that game, And it just it was a cool idea 564 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.079 that every time I encountered it, an Origin has just seemed like it was 565 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.880 a little much what I'm hearing here is I'm glad I didn't play a bunch 566 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.280 of Origins because yeah, more of this stuff would have seemed familiar if I 567 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:10.280 had, I guess. Yeah, And that's kind of where I'm at as 568 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.039 well. It's like, you know that we've they've been leaning on this stuff 569 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.760 for for a long long time, you know, And because I did, 570 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.599 I played through Origins a couple of times. Actually, so I've got a 571 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.159 little Batman fatigue. Yeah, so I didn't like, you know, absolutely 572 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.119 love this game, but said by a man with it batman tattoo? Yeah 573 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.960 wow wait really yeah? Do yeh? Where is it? It's I'll show 574 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.519 you later, Okay, all right, all right, I'm not a big 575 00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.880 Batman guy, but I thought the story was better than it should have been. 576 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:44.880 Little pass muster with your comic book fandom. All right. So they've 577 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.960 been leaning very heavily once again on you know, like the Joker and two 578 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.559 Face and Penguin. You know, they all make their returns this time. 579 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.079 There's there's a whole whole cast of villains that they could have, you know, 580 00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.880 tapped, but they decided, well, I'm sure there's a huge portion 581 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.039 of the audience who doesn't know anybody else. Yeah, they got to make 582 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.679 a mainstream Batman product. At to do that, they tried with some like 583 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.679 doctor Strange stuff in City and then didn't. Yeah, yeah, there's doctor 584 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.239 strays, Like Black Mask was big and origins, right, well, that 585 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:16.360 was always the thing. And in the first couple of games, like there 586 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.199 was a cavalcade of people, you know, like it wasn't just those guys 587 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.559 would be like there's a killer Crock or whatever, like just so they kind 588 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:28.360 of hit the hot the big names while still having some cool side characters. 589 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.239 This game have a lot of that too, or is it ever everyone kind 590 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.159 of a heavy hitter. No, there's definitely, Like I went through a 591 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.440 bunch of the bios because I don't know Batman and like two or three Bruce 592 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.840 Wayne, he's a millionaire playboy Okay, right, Seam, I knew it. 593 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.719 Parents murdered. Yeah, there's there's a handful of villains in this that 594 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.679 we're really introduced in the comics in the last like five to ten years. 595 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.159 Yeah, there's some kind of obscure stuff as well. So like as a 596 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:59.360 fan, like I love seeing that stuff, but I'm trying so hard not 597 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.400 to talk about like spoil it. Yeah, there's there's like so that's kind 598 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.320 of what I thought it was really good about the story is that they're there's 599 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.440 stuff you could spoil, I guess is the way to put it. Like 600 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.880 they go in some interesting directions with this, even even outside of like the 601 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.239 the thing everybody knows by now I would assume is that, you know, 602 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.440 the Joker is actually represented pretty heavily in the game, but as like a 603 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.400 Seid of hallucinations. You know, he is dead, like he died in 604 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:23.639 City, and they stick with that. But I think if you're a fan 605 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:29.719 and upon like two minutes of meeting the Arkham Knights, I think you'll know 606 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:34.719 exactly really did you know? Yeah, because I was like I didn't know, 607 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.400 but it really drove me, like I really wanted to know who it 608 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.320 was. Yeah, Like they introduced Arkham Knight as like this brand new character, 609 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.320 but as it turns out, it might not be, like it's someone 610 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.039 kind of familiar with Batman. Yeah, well I regret out of the gate. 611 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.800 It's like right, like Alfred says, like the first time you meet 612 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.719 him, he's like he seems to have a grudge against you, so he 613 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.400 must be somebody from your past. And at this moment last week where I 614 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.159 was just like, you know what, like, I'm just gonna look up 615 00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:59.199 the identity of this thing because I have a theory about it and I just 616 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:00.559 kind of want to know. Yeah, and then saw the name. It 617 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:02.400 was like, all right, I have no idea. Who the fuck? 618 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.920 That is so great they actually the story ends up beating you over the head 619 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.400 with like I knew who it was by the time I got to that point, 620 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.760 just because they don't make any secret out of it, Okay, right, 621 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.960 So yeah, it was thinly veiled and you know, they were big, 622 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.320 wide sweeping, you know, swerves to try and avoid it, but 623 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.599 it was exactly who who I thought it was. So that was that was 624 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.480 kind of a disappointment, I guess. But be getting to that point, 625 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.639 I thought was handled very well. Like yeah, like almost every dramatic moment 626 00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.280 in the game is like shockingly well done for a comic book where everything is 627 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.559 like larger than life and kind of silly. Right, Yeah, and I 628 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.679 like all the nods backs too, you know, previous comics, Like you 629 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.119 know, there's there's a lot of killing joke in there. Yeah, it 630 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.199 long Halloween references and stuff. Yeah, real subtle stuff like that. I 631 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:46.440 think they kind of they earned the M rating pretty well. Oh yeah, 632 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.920 yeah because of the first of the first one that's got an M and like, 633 00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.719 I mean, it's just like darker in terms of the even the dialogue 634 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.519 and stuff. You know, like some of the things that come out of 635 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.519 Joker's mouth are just awful. Oh really yeah, lots of talk of murder 636 00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:00.800 if you tos of it as well. I guess one thing I'm glad they 637 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.440 didn't lean too heavily on was because Scarecrow is a big part of this game, 638 00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.760 and I thought that since everyone really loved that stuff in Asylum, with 639 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.719 like the glitches and stuff like that, Like I loved that part an Asylum. 640 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.480 I thought that there were sanity effects every five internal darkness, oh your 641 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.400 volumeter is going up and around, or psychoman iss shit. Right, they 642 00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.440 didn't go too too hard on. I think they do a decent amount of 643 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.239 it, but they're really subtle with it. In a lot of cases, 644 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:23.320 you know, it'll just be like, oh, Joker popped up in some 645 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.639 weird way in a cinematic that you didn't expect or something. Yeah, you're 646 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.239 panning around and you think someone's behind you and then you pan around again. 647 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:31.000 Yeah, that guy's not there anymore. Yeah, they do a lot of 648 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:32.880 a lot of cool stuff with like you saw some of it in the quick 649 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.880 look of like the scene, the scene looking one way and then you pay 650 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.320 the camera around and when you turn back around, it's completely different. Like, 651 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.880 they do a lot of that stuff really effectively. Yeah, it's done 652 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.440 very well. A lot of good like visual storytelling and cinematic kind of stuff. 653 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.880 Just general presentation is really solid. A lot of slow walking and talking 654 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:53.239 to the risks. They tremendous amount. Yeah, the risk chatter just seems 655 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.559 it seems like there's a whole fucking lot of that there is the kind of 656 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.519 annoyed me and even having to like pop up like okay, let's have this 657 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.360 fucking pan around to the front of the batmobile so you can watch him talking 658 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.440 to someone and get a good look at his fucking emotionless face. Like that 659 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:08.960 stuff. I mean, I get bad, man, it's not supposed to 660 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.280 be an emotional guy, but that stuff kind of just looks bad. But 661 00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.400 he's just a cool motherfucker. He just doesn't give a fuck. Also, 662 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.519 does he does he does he have one of those throat mics where he can 663 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.000 communicate with people without talking. He must because like his mouth doesn't move in 664 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.719 some of those. I always really wait, but he's talking to people. 665 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.920 I thought I thought that was just internal models. Look, I've seen him 666 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.519 on the wrist talking to Oracle and has his mouth not Hey, maybe just 667 00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:36.480 talk out to like one more thing that's broke broken on the PC version. 668 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.199 But I played that entire game on PC and I did not have any problems. 669 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.400 Like I'm not discounting, like I know there have been major, major 670 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.360 problems in there. Yeah, I just I feel really lucky that I was 671 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.280 able to play at all. And when you do those things in the I 672 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:51.599 and I file, like he was running sixty frames a second, looking awesome, 673 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.239 like if you've got a machine that can run it the rate and played 674 00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.639 a little bit more of it the last because they patched it over the weekend, 675 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.000 right and fixed a couple of things. So at that point, like 676 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.199 let's let's change the frame rate from thirty to sixty, s out goes and 677 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.920 yeah, it ran all right for me as well. Yeah, but it's 678 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:15.320 like they're definitely going to add it to the options as well, like they're 679 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.000 gonna flesh out because it's like you can to you can disable motion blur if 680 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.760 you don't like motion blur. Uh, but you still have to go edit 681 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:27.599 a file to do it. Like they're gonna apparently change all the option settings 682 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:29.920 to be more like an actual PC game. I think they did that with 683 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.079 a recent patch. Have you gone in there to check? I did not, 684 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.559 but I know there's stuff that they were gonna add. Okay, I 685 00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.639 think it's in this this recent patch, like the one that hit over the 686 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.719 weekend that's been the only patch. Yeah, yeah, okay, Well, 687 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:44.000 hey, the console versions are all right, Yeah, it sounds like the 688 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:45.519 Xbox version is great too, But yeah, the p S four is like 689 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:50.880 it's kind of shocking that like everything about the built on the old Batman games. 690 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.559 You know, it's very obviously just the same engine that they've iterated on, 691 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.480 Like everything about the presentation of it is basically the same. But it 692 00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.199 just looks fantastic. Yeah, even at like thirty friends for a second years, 693 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.760 it's just like super consistent, smooth, a good job. Also, 694 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.000 anyone that's about to start the game immediately going to the options and change the 695 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.800 batmobile, talk to god, why was that not on by defaults twenty hours 696 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.960 of the game before I knew that. It helps so much. So basically, 697 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.679 well if anybody doesn't know, like the acceleration is on the right trigger, 698 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.840 but like going into tank mode is on left trigger when you naturally want 699 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:27.079 to hit that to break in reverse, right, Yeah, Yeah, because 700 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.280 the default is ART to accelerate and X to break in reverse, which is 701 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:34.719 just goes against everything. Anyone who's ever played a driving like I was constantly 702 00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.159 when I was trying to corner and I needed a break, I would just 703 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:38.840 pop into tank mode for the first like twenty hours of the game, which 704 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:44.760 is a really good way to break. Yeah, because that's not faster than 705 00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:46.320 you would ye know, there's stuff where you're trying to get away from, 706 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:50.000 like pursuing vehicles and later in the game, and it's like you don't want 707 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.000 to go into tank mode of this. Yes, some of that later game 708 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.840 batmobile stuff was one specific thing. I think we're probably talking about the same 709 00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:00.000 thing. There were two that there were two that I enjoy, but I 710 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.320 wonder which one you're talking about. I didn't have that much of a problem 711 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.199 with those Cobra tanks. I know you didn't like those at all. Yeah, 712 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:08.800 they're I mean, yeah, and there's like a there's a worse version 713 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:12.840 of that thing that it manifests as a boss, which I thought was kind 714 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.639 of annoying. But are you talking about the earth mover, the the bigger 715 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.880 thing that chases you quickly? Yes? I hated that, like anything that 716 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.119 involved like a lot of like not in take mode but standard batmobile driving super 717 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:28.480 fast through tubes with a bunch of obstacles. Yeah, there's super trial and 718 00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.079 error focused and like you were just like because there are so many situations where 719 00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:34.159 they have you like you know, you're driving in tubes where they'll you'll have 720 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.320 to go drive up on the wall or on the ceiling, and if you 721 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.800 lose your speed at all, you're just gonna fall off first. None of 722 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.280 that stuff, like that first Riddler thing is on what I did, and 723 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.760 none of that seems cool in any way. Gets it's way harder than that. 724 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.639 And is it forced on you or is that all sides stuff? Stuff 725 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.840 is all optional, But but they do integrate some of that stuff into other 726 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.519 story. Oh, I know what the other vehicle thing you're talking about is, 727 00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.920 Yeah, okay, Yeah, that that's annoying, kind of a PA 728 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.000 in the Yeah, that's that's too bad. It's not bad with checkpoints though, 729 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.920 like, yeah, it's one more talking about like OK, each step 730 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.440 of the way, every time you feel like the default tank controls are trying 731 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.360 to make it control like a shooter, where it is like a left trigger 732 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.119 to aim. I mean there is even a zoom in you know you're in 733 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.800 fact, you effectively go for headshots on the drone takes, yeah, because 734 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.079 if you hit them in the turret, they die in one hit. The 735 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.199 best thing you can do is as soon as you get the option get the 736 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.920 upgrade for the drone virus, and that makes it so you can make other 737 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.320 drones fight for you, and that just that clears the field somewhat. Not 738 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.599 only that, but the the enemy drones will target the friendly drones and stop 739 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.800 shooting at you at that point. Yep. I still think it is a 740 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.280 really satisfying game overall, for you know, graphically and in terms of story 741 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.320 and presentation. Kind of made up for some of the gameplay shortcomings. Yeah, 742 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.880 for as like you know, fatigue, as much fatigue I felt like, 743 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.199 you know, playing this, The story I think was strong enough to 744 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.119 hold my throughout. They do they so I haven't. You know, there's 745 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.679 the whole thing about like you don't get a full ending, you don't see 746 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.519 credits unless you get one hundred percent right, It's true. But like I 747 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.440 felt like when I finished the story, the main story progression, like if 748 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.719 I had stopped playing there, I would have been satisfied with it. They 749 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:15.440 do a really good job of rapp Yeah, the whole last sequence, Yeah, 750 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.360 is really well done. And I almost kind of recommend not doing a 751 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:24.199 lot of the side stuff before you you finished the game, because no spoiler. 752 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.239 Yeah, but things change, and the dialogue with some of these side 753 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.800 missions and villains direct will change depending on whether or not you've gone through that 754 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:37.079 initial ends. Like, yeah, I went back and wrapped up to the 755 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.239 Penguin side quest chain after I had finished the main story. Like, yeah, 756 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.360 they even had you know, Nold North does Penguin in these games, 757 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.400 and like they even had him do a whole different set of dialogue that reflects 758 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.760 what happened at the end of the main progression. Yeah, it's it's it's 759 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.239 pretty clever. Yeah, I can't wait to see what this team does. 760 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.840 Yes, Yes, that is the real exciting thing about this game coming out, 761 00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:00.159 Like as much as I enjoyed playing the game, I'd want to know 762 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.360 what Rockstady is going to do after this. Sure, Yeah, and like 763 00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:06.519 see if they'll stick to it and not make another Batman game. God, 764 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:08.960 I hope. Yeah. They said so many times in the run up to 765 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.360 this game that this was like the end of their trilogy. Yeah, it 766 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.719 would be real, like if we could kick off another trilogy on the end 767 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:22.599 of the right, that would be the fucking worst. Oh yeah, I 768 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.119 don't even think about it. So this is it, You're you're this is 769 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:29.920 you are officially done with Batman after this. Be terrible if they announced another 770 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.679 one. Yeah, yes, it would be a huge disappointment if they if 771 00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:35.920 they went back to the well again, what is the studio the made origins? 772 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.679 Because they was just called like Brothers Warner Brothers Montreal. Okay, what 773 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:42.639 else did they do? I think they that may have been their first game, 774 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.719 maybe like the armored edition of the wu Arkham City. That seems likely. 775 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.119 Yeah, not positive, I think that's right. Uh. Yeah, 776 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.079 there's a decent, decent amount of people pointing to Superman after this game, 777 00:45:55.159 --> 00:46:00.679 because yeah, that sounds like the worst possible idea to me. Yeah, 778 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.880 I guess you know, it's worth considering that the DC has got there. 779 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.920 I guess they've been trying for years, but they're really ramping up their their 780 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.719 movie efforts as a studio. They're really trying to go after the Marvel. 781 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:15.559 I'd be seeing like an actual Justice League, yeah, type of scenario, 782 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.199 because I mean, different heroes. There's another there was Man of Steel, 783 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.199 there's another Superman movie coming. Oh no, no, I guess the next 784 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.400 one is the Batman versus Superman, and then that's going to lead in Justice 785 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.880 League. And there's a Suicide Squad movie, and blah blah blah Squad. 786 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.719 Are there any big It's like Superman in then or Batman or because Joker's in 787 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.039 there. I don't really know anything about Suicide Squad outside of these like Jokers. 788 00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.920 It's some crazy side story where all these villains get conscripted into its. 789 00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.800 Yeah, it sounds crazy black ops mission. Yeah, I think good guys. 790 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.960 The villains like Harley Quinn is in it. They're getting they're getting shit 791 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.039 done for good guys. I guess they've become right. I don't know anything 792 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.760 about they. Like my understanding is they all get plucked out of prison by 793 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.320 the government by like the CIA or whatever exam and they're like, all right, 794 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:57.559 you can either rotten prison or you can do these missions for us. 795 00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.440 Okay, uh WB games, we all has done. Yeah, they did 796 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:05.039 Armored Edition. They did as something called Cartoon Universe, which was some kind 797 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:12.679 of like web game arc Margins, and something called Lego Legends of Chima Online 798 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:19.599 from iOS just for iOS and some kind of web thing as well. Interesting. 799 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.519 Yeah, there's you know, they're like billboards for Lex Corp. In 800 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.960 this game, and they like you get you get a voicemail from one point. 801 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.880 Come on, that's a very tiny little side. But I was happy 802 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:31.159 when I heard it. But yeah, yeah, I know. But I 803 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:34.719 mean, those are some of the things that are pointing to a Superman game. 804 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:36.360 But I hope that they don't do that, because out do you make 805 00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.719 a good game out of Superman? You don't. You make him he gets 806 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:42.639 poisoned and he's not as tough and then he could be beat. Okay, 807 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.840 so you're in a city built out of kryptonite. Yeah, there's a city 808 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.400 and if you go up real high it's kryptonites. You can only fly so 809 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.039 high, So you got to stay in the city and fly the ranks. 810 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.800 We had to evacuate the entire city because it's a dodent type of kryptonite that 811 00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:58.079 makes regular people sick too, so they had to leave on busses. And 812 00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.559 now it's Superman alone in the city with the cavalcade of bad guys that are 813 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.519 all hoping to capitalize on his weekend state to destroy the Superman. Hold on, 814 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:07.119 I'm writing this down, all right, yeah, okay, all right, 815 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.320 I got it. Superman Arkham Asylum coming soon. Wasn't the prototype that 816 00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:14.840 had the excuse of, like, yeah, the virus, the mutagen, 817 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.079 if it hits water, it just goes crazy. And that's why, like 818 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.960 they just surround the city with water. That made sense an infamous like you're 819 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.280 an electric man. Yeah, don't jump in the water. Sure. I 820 00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.840 kind of like the way Batman bat Batman handles it because you go in and 821 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.360 then you just see the grappling hooks shoot out and he just comes back out. 822 00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.079 Nope, yeah, Batman don't need to swim. Nope, it's got 823 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.480 a grappling hook all right. Well, Arkham, Knight and Sores, No, 824 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:38.119 I suppose, yeah, I'll get it. I really like it. 825 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:42.480 Oh yeah, it's pretty you have not yet started selling the PC version again. 826 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:44.920 Yeah, they issued that patch. Oh we'll get to that. Don't 827 00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.920 worry. There's more and more talk to come on that subject. Jeff, 828 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:53.719 did you play any games that are not Batman? H? Me too. 829 00:48:53.880 --> 00:49:01.039 I just want to reiterate here or not Batman, bat I've played PlayStation view 830 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:07.079 watch some fine programming. No, not even now. Okay, I wouldn't 831 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.880 call it fine program sure man, No, No, that's uh there's uh 832 00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.519 yeah, this was kind of the come down week for me. Three definitely. 833 00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.400 Uh so. Yeah, I didn't play too much. I'm kind of 834 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.159 fiddling around some stuff here and there, but nothing to any nothing of note. 835 00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:28.480 Yeah, not ready to divulge yet. Yeah, all right, Like 836 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.440 I played some it was a Crash Drive two or something. I don't know. 837 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.519 It's a weird online multiplayer driving games like five bucks on s Team. 838 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.000 Maybe we'll do something with it first Drive too. It's been real silly. 839 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:42.360 Okay, Well then, Jason A striker Yo. Did you play anything besides 840 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:47.599 Batman? N? Probably it's it's man. I blazed through Batman though you 841 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:51.360 did? Holy shit? Like I thought I was playing a lot of that 842 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.000 game, although I was fixated on doing a lot of the side stuff, 843 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.719 and then you came in like the day after it came out, and we're 844 00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:58.760 like, yeah, I finished it, Yep, finished it Jesus. And 845 00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.440 then yeah, most of my Saturday was spent finishing up all the all the 846 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:06.519 sides. Wait, have you done everything besides the Riddlers? Yeah, I 847 00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:09.000 mean the Riddler stuff is there's the one true grind. Yeah, like everything 848 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:14.239 else is approachable. I wrapped up everything, and then most of the Riddler 849 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:15.840 stuff up to the point where they're like, okay, you have to just 850 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:21.960 get trophies. Now there's no more story stuff. Forty three Riddler trophies that 851 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:24.400 I want nothing to do with the challenges. I tried two of the two 852 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.199 of the trophies immediately after finding out that I had to get them, and 853 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:30.079 I'm like, all right, all right, I'm gonna make an effort. 854 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:34.440 We'll try this. And the first one is like a physics based one where 855 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.440 you've got to move this metal ball through the statue or whatever, and then 856 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:38.800 the fucking ball wouldn't come up, See, it got stuck on some of 857 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:42.960 the geometries. The one where you have to electrify the two generators to lead 858 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:44.880 it through the little maze. Yeah, okay, I gave up on that 859 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.519 one too. It was some fury. And then the one right next to 860 00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.360 that, you know, which was like half a block away. It's like, 861 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.960 here's all these you know, Riddler targets that you got to shoot, 862 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:53.639 and you start shooting them, and then all of a sudden, it just 863 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.800 it fails for whatever, Like it's not a timer, but it doesn't tell 864 00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.800 you exactly how much time you have, and it's just seems random in it. 865 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.159 I'm just like, this is not fun, yeah at all. Some 866 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.519 of those Riddler trophies are, like the little challenge puzzles are fun. Some 867 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.119 are not so good. Yeah, there's way too much of that stuff. 868 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.000 And yeah locking true final full ending behind the Riddler trophy stuff seems insane, 869 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.000 yeah, because there's so much of it. No, thank you. But 870 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:21.679 yeah, other than that man coming down off of E three, I signed 871 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.800 up for PlayStation View as well. I found that they had a pop up 872 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:31.079 video marathon and really that was my entire I had watched like eleven hours on 873 00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.159 the couch. Yeah, it was a major hand just it was great. 874 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.280 No, I couldn't even get a I didn't eat that day, Okay, 875 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:42.119 we I think I ate later that night because we went out for your birthday, 876 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:44.679 right man, Yeah, that's right. But yeah, prior to that 877 00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:46.719 in a shower anything of face. Let me check out this place to pop 878 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:52.079 up video video. Yeah, like ten hours later, I still want some 879 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.000 good stuff. Yeah, that's that's about it for me though. All right, 880 00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:59.360 well crap, I did play something wait thing that was quick? Yeah, 881 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.760 last played just now, so I spoke what's that track Mania two? 882 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.960 Maybe you heard of it? Yeah, no, go on, tell me 883 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:12.119 more coming out of you three. I've gotten a little bit back into track 884 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:16.400 Mania after playing track Mania Turbo at the show. I'm still trying to keep 885 00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:22.559 track of which one of which one that is is that I'm playing track Mania 886 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.599 two Stadium two Okay, that's the one that there's also Canyon, yes, 887 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:36.079 and a third by Valley I think maybe not descript bio. Yeah, but 888 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.199 but Stadium is the one that people are actually playing. Okay, So those 889 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.599 are all under the track Mania two banner. Yeah, part all part of 890 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:45.119 Mania planet, because I mean, you know, going with shoot Mania, 891 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.519 going back like there was united and that there was also so that's the previous 892 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.599 generation of track that's united and forever and all that stuff that's all track Mania 893 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.559 one era stuff, and then these three things sum up kind of track Mania 894 00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.480 two, and I guess Turbo is going to be like, hey, let's 895 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:05.360 actually get away from really many a planet and all this stuff into something that 896 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:07.880 might be manageable for people. We'll see how to manifests on PC. But 897 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.360 you know all those those obviously all those planets are about to be worth nothing. 898 00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.920 I know that's a that's a sad planet economies or maybe it'll move forward. 899 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:17.360 Who knows all the pieces, we'll see what the PC version ends up 900 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.440 being. Like everything, Yeah, we'll come to PC. It sounds like 901 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.559 so that's it's a chance for them to kind of unify the player base again 902 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:29.360 behind one product and they don't fuck it up. Uh, we'll see how 903 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.719 that goes cool. That game will have VR support, and that sounds like 904 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.320 a fucking nightmare. That does sound crazy and I can't. I really want 905 00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:37.760 to try it. I really want to try it. Apparently there is a 906 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.079 there is APS four demo for that, but that we did not see during 907 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:45.360 the three who I don't know. Oh yeah, I've been like super interested 908 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.440 in like VR stuff because I saw it like a video. I've read it 909 00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:53.159 just the other day. Apparently with uh, certain Android phones that have like 910 00:53:53.280 --> 00:54:00.159 Chrome installed or something like that, you can like do VR videos well actually, 911 00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.719 so you can view like one hundred and eighty degree like recorded videos like 912 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.039 panoramic type stuff. And then your phone use is the you know, gyroscover 913 00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.800 or whatever the hell it is on the inside, so you can actually move 914 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.920 the phone around and I'm actually making the motion here in the studio, which 915 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:20.559 is like the Google Cardboard type stuff your face, thank you, yes, 916 00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.559 that there's there's my there's my foundation there. They have that on you when 917 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:25.159 it launched, too, the thing where it's like, oh, here's a 918 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.159 Japanese street festival and you can move the game pad around and look what kind 919 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:30.519 of what kind of weird video format is that? The supports that, So 920 00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:32.599 it's like a bunch of cameras I guess, I mean, you know, 921 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.199 yeah, but I mean like just like what the file is it? Or 922 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.639 like does YouTube like specify like hey, this is a video that you can 923 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.119 like look around in three sixty degrees or whatever, like how do you know? 924 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.000 I guess I guess there's like a specific channel for that, like probably 925 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:50.280 the Google Cardboard channel or something. Like that. So yeah, that's how 926 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:54.480 I'd learned about Google Cardboard is it's literally a piece of cardboard that has these 927 00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.159 little plastic lenses and you can strap your phone to it and then you know, 928 00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:00.880 splits the images, you know, to make a stereosk opic and it 929 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:02.360 looks like VR and stuff. It's kind of cool. So I actually had 930 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.599 I ordered one of those and it should be here today's crossed. Okay, 931 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:09.079 I'm excited for it. Did we talk about gear VR last week at all? 932 00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.039 Not really? So we have the Colman brought it by the last night 933 00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.400 of the E three show. She's she's been messing around with it, so 934 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.599 yeah, that thing is all right. Yeah, like it's like shockingly okay, 935 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:21.800 yeah, I mean it's it's a it's a low powered system, but 936 00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:23.599 you know that makes it more affordable, right. The graphic source power is 937 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.159 is not maybe not the best, but I mean she was she was just 938 00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.559 doing well, yeah obviously, and she was just messing with some like unity 939 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:34.840 prototyping stuff. So it was nothing fully formed like graphically and stuff. But 940 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.599 it would be good in terms of latency. But yeah, like like latency 941 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.159 like kind of the screen door looking effect, you know, just kind of 942 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:43.960 it was. It was sharp ish, like pretty high res like not that 943 00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:46.679 different from like the Morpheus and stuff like that. But yeah, that like 944 00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.039 like Dan said, the latency was really good, and like talking to her 945 00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.639 and some other people, sounds like that's what Karmac is worsting one. She 946 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:54.800 was talking a lot of that. He is focused on this kind of like 947 00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:59.639 low end of the VR market, which seems super important. Like I didn't 948 00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:04.119 realize Oculus was working with Sam Song on that thing. Yep. So that 949 00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.239 stuff seems like, you know, maybe another five years from now or whatever, 950 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.000 when phones are way better than they are now. Yeah, maybe, 951 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:13.280 but well, yeah that could be kind of cool. You know, you're 952 00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.079 like you've got the benefit of not having to worry about chords, right, 953 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:20.159 so yeah you can kind of turn you know, turn around as many times 954 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.079 as you want to see. I don't know, it feels like R is 955 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.400 the future of VR. I think that's been kind of something that's been going 956 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:29.760 around a little bit. But like if you the notion that, like, 957 00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.599 hey, if you have a good set of augmented reality lenses, you could 958 00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:36.599 just black them out and do VR two. Oh I see what you're saying. 959 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.280 Yeah, Okay, because there's They're definitely always gonna be value in in 960 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:42.960 fully simulating an artificial world. But I didn't I didn't think about that. 961 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.239 That's okay, God, it seems like they've got so far to go though 962 00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:49.760 with like the limitations on Holly lens. As far as we tried it, 963 00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:53.960 Yeah, tiny little viewport, that problem seems solvable. It's just at some 964 00:56:54.039 --> 00:57:00.239 point it means that you are making a very expensive object, So like, 965 00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:01.400 is there a way to get that down to consumer? Like that's the thing, 966 00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:05.199 is, like the technology to do full peripheral vision for something like that 967 00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.119 seems like it would exist immediately. You just have to get that at a 968 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:12.559 price point that makes sense to actually fucking show or sell to a human being, 969 00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.960 right, And that's where all of this stuff starts to fall apart, 970 00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:20.199 or could fall apart, depending on what price these things come in at. 971 00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.039 Yea, even even that ge gear VR business, like you know, just 972 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.159 the headset itself is two hundred dollars, but that doesn't include is the display, 973 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.280 which is the phone? You know, it's probably you know, five, 974 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:30.639 six, seven eight. Luckily I've got one of the phones that that 975 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.360 it fits into, So like I've got a note four, so that that 976 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.000 will work. And what's the other version? Is it like the sis or 977 00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.800 maybe it needs a different it's a different that gets sticky and gross. They 978 00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:51.239 also are like developer Editions or whatever they're selling now the six it's not necessarily 979 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.280 like it seemed like Samsung was putting are putting the position to like, you 980 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:57.360 know, put something out as soon as possible. But yeah, this seems 981 00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:59.760 like a first gen like you really don't want to pick this up. There's 982 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.320 nobody charge your phone while you're while it's been there. There's no like pass 983 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:07.079 through or anything like that. So it's just it's just out there to be 984 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:08.360 out there, I guess so, But yeah, I think if you go 985 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.480 to their website, they are calling it Developer Editions, so they're kind of 986 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.239 selling it's people that are supposed to be developing things for VR. It's not 987 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:16.800 it's not a big consumer push. But you can buy it at best Buy 988 00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:20.480 as well. Really, well, that's crazy. Yeah, all right, 989 00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:23.199 would you guys, would you guys VR it up on an airplane? Airplane? 990 00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:25.519 No? Yeah, maybe, I don't know, I don't know, 991 00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:29.840 just like watch a movie or yeah, if it's something where you're just keeping 992 00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.000 your head. I'm not gonna pay e Velkrie and be like, you know, 993 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:34.679 training my neck around like crazy on a plane. Yeah. There's another 994 00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:37.920 video that I saw where it's like, you know, and it like recreates 995 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:42.159 a movie theater, so when you look around, you see all the seats 996 00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:44.679 around you, and then you've got the big screen like right in front of 997 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.239 you too. That seems kind of cool to me. You're gonna love how 998 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:52.039 Xbox won it's partner in the Thoculus. Yeah, I can't wait. That's 999 00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:54.480 a case where like if I wanted to watch a personal movie on an airplane, 1000 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:57.960 I wouldn't want any of the head tracking stuff just to feed it to 1001 00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.159 me in my eyes. Yeah, I'm sure you could turn that off. 1002 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.639 Yeah, but I wonder how that works in a play because you're constantly moving. 1003 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:07.159 I don't know how physics were. But yeah, yeah, we'll see 1004 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.800 we will see futures VR in a public place seems like a good way to 1005 00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.760 get robbed, yeah, or just look like an ass. Yeah, I 1006 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.960 think like that, Like, yeah, but we have to get past that. 1007 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.239 It's gonna be the new like bluetooth thing that you don't really see much 1008 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:27.880 anymore and clip but that's different because that's people like yelling out loud yeah and 1009 00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.639 talking to seemingly no one like that that those people look literally crazy, But 1010 00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:35.320 there's actually a headset you at least know like, hey, they can't see 1011 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.639 me, they're they're they're doing something else, Like it's it's a pretty clear 1012 00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.599 signifier that they're up to something. There's actually it's actually more chilling and dystopian 1013 00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.480 than me to imagine a bunch of people in a public place wearing VR headsets 1014 00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:46.559 than it is to think of them all when their homes doing it. Because 1015 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.719 if we get to the point where people can't even bother to leave the house 1016 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:52.000 or can't bother to take the headset off when they go out in public, 1017 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.880 we're fucked. And when it's a very thin pair of glasses that you can 1018 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:05.480 wear all the time that you can then blackout when you want or straight up 1019 01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:10.000 a direct neural interface, yeah, okay, okay, and I'm ready that's 1020 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.960 what black ops three there. It is all about their their neural interface off 1021 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:22.159 the ride mill like when we start getting ocular implants or something like that where 1022 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:25.480 you don't have to like then you get back to the bluetooth problem of these 1023 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:30.199 people look insane, Yeah, and you don't know why or yes, or 1024 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.159 they interacting with somebody that you can't see, or are they just And that's 1025 01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:38.039 the that's the thing we have to kind of like the people have to solve 1026 01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:43.039 is the societal stuff around it. And they never solved it. For Bluetooth 1027 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.480 headsets, these people just look like but like fucking sure, shit didn't solve 1028 01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:52.440 it for Google glass what happened, But like what happens when you can't see 1029 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.559 the glasses anymore? Like like like that's that's the the larger thing. But 1030 01:00:55.639 --> 01:01:00.480 like the Bluetooth headset was our step on the way to fucking Star Trek communters, 1031 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:04.519 the thing that everyone says they want, but in reality they're like, 1032 01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.280 nope, fuck that. Those people look like lunati. That's because it was 1033 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.639 on their ear and not on their lapel. But it wasn't about it wasn't 1034 01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:13.679 about how that part of it looked. It was about them walking down the 1035 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:19.920 street just having a conversation. And that is behavior that we currently associate with 1036 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.360 like people that don't have it together. You still see it though with people 1037 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:27.199 that have like the the Apple things with the little clip. Yeah, I 1038 01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.960 see that on occasion, but you almost never see the just the ear clip 1039 01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:34.679 thing, that's true. I got one with my copy of Warhawk. Nice. 1040 01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.039 Yeah, I used it for Warhawk. Oh yeah, I think I've 1041 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.840 got that thing too. It's just the standard PS three bluetooth. No, 1042 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:43.960 that was the Jabra one. That was the weird offbrand one, so Calm 1043 01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.000 came with the official Sony bluetooth. Weir, I got one of those. 1044 01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:50.559 It sucked. All those things sucked. Things always suck. Yep. I 1045 01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.199 saw that thing sitting on my coffee table yesterday and I was like, oh, 1046 01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:59.320 wait that thing right, somebody cared about that baby? Yeah? Terrible? 1047 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.360 Yes? Uh Dan, Yes, did you play anything besides Batman? 1048 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.960 Uh? I's been working on the usual. I mean this actual weekend, 1049 01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:08.559 I haven't had much at chance to play anything because that was in Kansas City, 1050 01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:13.679 right, But I've been playing a lot of Witcher stuff last week. 1051 01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.320 I feel like I'm almost getting in that Mexico of Red Dead section of Witcher 1052 01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.199 to where I feel like I've been looking for Dandylion for like twenty hours now. 1053 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.840 Is that because you're running into side stuff that you keep doing. I 1054 01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:27.639 do. I do a ton of side stuff. It's just yeah, the 1055 01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:30.039 main story has just been like, all right, they just or this guy 1056 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:31.920 or are they just failing to get to the point they're kind of I'm just 1057 01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:36.079 talking to so many people trying to find this fucking guy. They sang songs 1058 01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:38.239 or whatever so much. It's just take away forever. But I still love 1059 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:45.320 it from the previous games because he's an idiot. He's a jerk. All 1060 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:47.800 I know of him is is his voice over in the loading screens, you 1061 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.880 know, like of setting up where the story is at. He does not 1062 01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.159 sound like like when I read about him, he's like they described him as 1063 01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:58.840 this like as this rakish womanizing barred figure, and that's how I know. 1064 01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:02.000 And he sounds super rim and like super self serious and those those monologues. 1065 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.639 It's like, this guy does not sound like a good time him. He's 1066 01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:08.280 also an actor, so he's probably playing it up. Of course, let's 1067 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.079 see. Yeah, I'm still loving it, but yeah, it's just kind 1068 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.239 of dragging for me. I beat you must build a boat. I built 1069 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:16.639 a boat? Nice? Yeah, Wow, I haven't I spoiled the ending 1070 01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:20.679 of that. Oh fuck man, man, I got a pretty big boat. 1071 01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:22.199 I got sales on it. I just got sales. But it's not 1072 01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.280 a full boat yet. I mean it's seaworthy. Oh, getting to the 1073 01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.760 point can you keep going to the fun up? Think about you must build 1074 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.039 a boat? As you start with a boat, it's built, you are 1075 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:36.199 building a bigger boat. Where's the value? It should have been called you 1076 01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:38.360 must build a bigger boat? Yeah, but he still didn't fit in the 1077 01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:42.000 app store. Yeah. Are you getting to the point where you have all 1078 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.239 the rooms? That makes sense as far as like, oh, here's the 1079 01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:45.960 place where I grade my staff and my swords, and I'm just like everything 1080 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:49.599 I'm gonna add now, like what is it even gonna be? Yeah, 1081 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.559 you get to a point where it's literally like the rooms don't do anything. 1082 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:53.719 It's just like, oh, hey, here's my garden. What do you 1083 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:57.280 think of my garden? And there's nothing you buy or anything. I think 1084 01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:00.280 there's one room where's just some dude that hangs out there and he's like when 1085 01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:01.480 you try to talk to him. I don't know if that's new game plus 1086 01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:04.159 stuff or whatever. There are some secrets, so there are secret characters and 1087 01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:06.719 some stuff in that game that you can get. But yeah, it was 1088 01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.800 great. I mean I put it right up there with ten million. Is 1089 01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:15.599 there anything mechanically different between this and ten million? So the items appear in 1090 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.239 the board itself instead of in a separate inventory. You can kind of make 1091 01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:25.840 matches while matches are matching, okay, which you know give raises the combo 1092 01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:30.239 potential quite a bit. Yeah, it's but it's very much. It's very 1093 01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.639 it's very much a follow up to that game. Okay. Yeah, And 1094 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:35.239 just like ten million, like the second I was done, I was kind 1095 01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:36.920 of like, all right, I think I'm done with this. I think 1096 01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:40.280 it took like four or five hours or something like. Yeah, I totally 1097 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:42.559 got my mine. He's worth out of it. Probably won't play it again, 1098 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:44.800 but yeah, you know that that week that you guys were talking about 1099 01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.239 this coming out, you know, I was reminded I never played ten million, 1100 01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:48.320 so I went and bought that, which I'm almost done with, and 1101 01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:54.239 like, I can't see going on to another game like this any times. 1102 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.360 Yeah, there was a good break between the two games, and that was 1103 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:00.519 good. That's a it's a solid game, like a lot. As soon 1104 01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:01.880 as this guy's next game comes out, I guess I'll play you just build 1105 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.760 a boat smart, Uh, that's like that. I just kind of dabbled 1106 01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:08.679 with. You know, I can download my Xbox three sixty games or some 1107 01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:12.320 of them downloaded. Like I started playing some more Geometry Wars. I also 1108 01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:17.239 played that in the ball fashion. It's great. It's arguably in arguably the 1109 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:20.320 best Gennel Tree Wars. Oh yeah, for sure. Still, yeah, 1110 01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:24.400 it's fantastic. So how do you guys get in the in the program? 1111 01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:28.039 So I signed up for like the Preview. Oh god, that is a 1112 01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:32.519 long and byzantine process. Have you When you start it up for it, 1113 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.159 you don't get it immediately. You get it the next time they push an 1114 01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:38.880 update. So yeah, let's get accepted. It's not yeah, that's what 1115 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.519 it is. It's not a complicated series of things to do. It's just 1116 01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.360 that it's so nebulous about when the next step will happen. Again, if 1117 01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.280 you're in or not is sometimes not clear. Because you I thought I was. 1118 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.039 I thought, so if you can I think if you can download the 1119 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:55.119 Xbox Preview dashboard dashboard, then you're in, all right. But that's the 1120 01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:58.079 second app. That's it's important to note there are two apps. There's the 1121 01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:01.280 registration app, so there's the Preview Death four DApp. So like the registration 1122 01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:03.719 app is the thing you'll get from putting the code in. I just want 1123 01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:06.639 to play meat Meat Boy. Yeah, but you go in that and press 1124 01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.599 the one button in the application and it registers you. Weird, But then 1125 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:12.639 it'll be like, you know, wait until blah blah blah, and you'll 1126 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.920 get further instructions. And I went like a week plus without hearing anything. 1127 01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:19.280 Dang like like it's just it doesn't tell you what's going on to yea, 1128 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.960 at some point eventually you will get in. Yeah, I didn't get a 1129 01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.320 confirmation or anything, but like, I guess if I can download those three 1130 01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:29.119 sixty games, you're right, yeah, yeah, that should be what that 1131 01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:30.880 means. But I knew I was gonna want to download a ton of XBLA 1132 01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:33.360 games that I have just have like hundreds of my three sixty. So I 1133 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:38.079 bought a two terabyte drive like a little sea Gate and a USB three point 1134 01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.880 zero drive. That is a great feeling, going from it's saying like eighty 1135 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:45.639 nine percent full to thirteen percent literally just by plugging a thing in all I 1136 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:46.920 had to too. Oh it feels so good. I've got like ten gig 1137 01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.920 free my Xbox mine is always perpetually close to full, Like I've deleted almost 1138 01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:54.639 everything off the Xbox One, Like I don't know what's taking up the space 1139 01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:59.159 anymore except that, oh what is it? Fuck? I have something solved 1140 01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:00.880 that's like seventy you have a master Chief collection, because that's huge. Yeah, 1141 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.119 yeah, it's definitely after adst It's like, oh my god. This 1142 01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:08.159 so yeah, I'm just it's stuff that I look at and go like, 1143 01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:10.920 am I really going to ever play Scream Ride? Would I mind waiting for 1144 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:13.800 it to download again? If I were to play Scream Ride? Okay, 1145 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:16.760 So I've just uninstalled like a ton of ship and still like halfway full or 1146 01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:19.159 more, and I'm like, I don't have that much on here. That's 1147 01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:20.880 what you have to think about it. Like, once I had the two 1148 01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:24.559 terabyte thing, it's like, well, I guess I'm reinstalling Scream Ride and 1149 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:28.199 Project Spark, Right, Why am I doing this? I'm never gonna play 1150 01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:30.360 this? Why would you do that? Because I can That's nope, Okay, 1151 01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:34.920 back on board, I cannot argue with all right, all right, 1152 01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:40.360 so yeah, having over two terabytes on both my tuck one and PlayStation four 1153 01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:43.599 is a real good. That sounds liberating. Yeah, yeah, good for 1154 01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:45.480 you man. Yeah, to answer your question, they show up in the 1155 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.800 Xbox one and dashboard just like an Xbox One game. They occupy like a 1156 01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:51.440 tile the same way. They got a little stripped down the side that says 1157 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:55.440 Xbox three sixty. So you know that it's an old game. Oh interesting, 1158 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.400 But to the system, yeah, like it. You know, it'll 1159 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:00.679 show up on your friends list that you're playing it. Like it. It 1160 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:03.760 functions just like an Xbox one game would, okay, except that you know 1161 01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.119 when you launch the game for the first or every time you launch the game, 1162 01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:10.599 you see the full three sixty boot up sequence, because it's like it's 1163 01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.960 literally booting a virtual three sixty. And I think the first time you launch 1164 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.279 any three sixty game, there's a weight process of like it. It kind 1165 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:19.880 of gets your save shit together out of the cloud. The three sixty cloud 1166 01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:23.920 kind of takes a while. Yeah, so so what about like, you 1167 01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.680 know, popping in the disk and then like download. It'll have to download 1168 01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.680 something from the internet to make that go as well. Sure, but yeah, 1169 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:32.760 it'll do a full install, like it won't try to read the game 1170 01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:35.439 off the drive like the three sixty would. It still does the Xbox One 1171 01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:39.640 thing I haven't actually done this yet, but that's been in talking to them 1172 01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:42.520 at D three. That's what that's how it sounded like. Cool. And 1173 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:46.720 then what is it? You hit uh both back and start or whatever the 1174 01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:51.439 fuck you. I think it's called menu and something surer. Still, yes, 1175 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:54.479 Hamburger, I know, I don't. I still don't know the day 1176 01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:57.479 with the other button H, they're both the H button, just push them 1177 01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.439 together and then you get the three six. Yeah it's k. Yeah. 1178 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:01.319 When you hit both of those, you get the three sixty guy that pops 1179 01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:04.640 up and it's just like a three sixty, although it's kind of it's weird 1180 01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:08.960 because going through friends and achievements and stuff on there, it all populates instantly 1181 01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:13.760 like it's way faster sixty. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Pretty It makes 1182 01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.920 you realize how like strapped that thing it was for resources or oh yeah, 1183 01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:19.800 how much they were asking out of that machine that it wasn't designed for. 1184 01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.079 By the end, if you had a huge list full FLA games just going 1185 01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:27.880 into that, you just see that spinning thing forever. And I still feel 1186 01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.880 like there's a process of like enumerating the games you have available to install on 1187 01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:34.359 an Xbox One like scrolling over to that right side and seeing it empty for 1188 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:36.880 like forty five seconds and then it just goes, oh wait, you wann 1189 01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:41.000 like forty games here? Yeah, like, yeah, fucking thanks. Yep, 1190 01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:44.800 but you said you were playing Geometry Wars. Is that working out right? 1191 01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:45.760 It works great? Yeah, because that's I mean, that is the 1192 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.239 epitome of the game. Well, I guess that and meat boy that you 1193 01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:53.800 need you know, super instant response controls and yeah, it plays exactly like 1194 01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:58.399 our Remember Digital Foundry declared Geometry Wars perfect as far as the emulation goes, 1195 01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:00.000 and it was stuff like mass effect kind of heavier stuff that it was not 1196 01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:05.279 running as well. That was pretty wasn't really curious to see what games get 1197 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:09.199 added? Yes, that's the real question. Turn that shit on, man. 1198 01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:12.680 Why not since they've they've business, they've straight up said it's business holding 1199 01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:16.439 back what gets what gets added to that list? Dude? Yeah, they'll 1200 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:21.039 happily give you your games, But what if we remastered them for you? 1201 01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:27.640 Perhaps you want the sequel to this game? I think the even more terrifying 1202 01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:30.319 scenario is what if they don't remaster them and they still want like four ninety 1203 01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:35.159 nine as like a transfer fee or some bullshit. There's nothing to remaster. 1204 01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:40.960 I mean a lot of them are inn HD convenience fee. Pay us five 1205 01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:45.039 dollars in convenience fees, and you can play your old game on your take 1206 01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.000 master. We'll keep the server, we'll keep the servers up for Burnout Paradise 1207 01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:51.520 if you pay this fee. All right, sign me up. That's like 1208 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:57.640 the one situation's going to start a Patreon for the Burnout Paradise servers and as 1209 01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:05.640 long as enough people are in we laugh. But yeah, yeah, all 1210 01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:11.720 right. I also just binged through Batman and played nothing else, so tapped 1211 01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.039 out on video games. It's a good ben game. Yeah, it's one 1212 01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:16.600 of the first games in a while that like I just sat down and ten 1213 01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:19.399 hours later, like that was my whole day. I thought that that's exactly 1214 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:21.600 how it was going to go for me, Like I was kind of like, 1215 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.920 yeah, when I saw when I sat for the quick look, I 1216 01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.000 was like, yeah, there's some stuff in here that I'm not not super 1217 01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:30.279 jazz on, but whatever, man fucking Batman. There's nothing like I'm not 1218 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:33.479 playing anything else right now. I'm gonna fucking plow through this game. And 1219 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:39.079 then played like two hours and went like fucking nah, and like turned it 1220 01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:41.920 off and then came back like a couple of hours later, played like another 1221 01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:45.239 little you know, a couple of checkpoints forward. So yeah, no, 1222 01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:47.840 I'm good. And then I have kind of done that for like the last 1223 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:51.159 week to get to where I am, and I don't know, like I'll 1224 01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:54.760 keep checking in on it as they patch it or whatever, but I just 1225 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:58.119 don't. I would say power there's no pull. There's no pull at all 1226 01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:00.840 for him. For me, I would say power through because I think that 1227 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.960 ace Chemicals section, that's a pretty long mission and I remember liking it about 1228 01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:08.039 It's also the mission that I played a year ago and thought like, man, 1229 01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.520 this is no good. See, I got more into the story as 1230 01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:13.680 it went forward. I think you're a kind of one of the weaker points 1231 01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:15.520 in the story. I think if you gave it another another two hours and 1232 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.960 then you still felt this way, maybe then ditch. But I think it 1233 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.079 gets a lot better than I think. The story is fantastic. You can 1234 01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:26.880 do it. I might as well see where the patches go first. At 1235 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.840 this point. Oh yeah, well I'm not having any any trouble with it 1236 01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:35.079 running. Or I mean, alternately, I could wait until let's see July 1237 01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:41.439 fourteenth and play EA Sports Rory Mackelroy PGA Tour, or hey the thirteenth when 1238 01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:44.560 on a Chimbara Z two Chaos comes out. God, they're still making those 1239 01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.479 games. Oh yeah, I've got that day asked off? Wow coming in? 1240 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.279 Yeah, we're really moving into the summer doldrums here, aren't we. 1241 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:55.000 It's the I mean, I'm looking at game stop. So it's like, 1242 01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:58.199 this is obviously going to be retail stuff. If you look at like Steam 1243 01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:00.760 and you look at like downloadables, it's going to be a somewhat different story. 1244 01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:04.279 Got W three is coming out at some point here. That's July fourteenth. 1245 01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:08.640 That Godzilla game is out the same day. That might be all right. 1246 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:11.479 We'll see, I mean it might a lot of things might be all 1247 01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:15.039 right. Like I think most week, Jay Stars Victory is it? Is 1248 01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.640 it versus or vs Plus Versus plus? Jason seems very interesting, dude, 1249 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:23.479 That game is going to be amazing. I'm telling you. What about Hyperdimension 1250 01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:30.399 Neptunia Rebirth three V Generation. Is this the Cooking one or the dance version 1251 01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:34.239 or Theory remake? Is it the shooter he play as a Dreamcast. There's 1252 01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:42.920 so many of these Deception four. That could be cool day. Yeah, 1253 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:45.279 so I've played through Trapped yea, which was what the third one? I 1254 01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:47.760 thought the fourth one was the last one. They came out on p S 1255 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:51.199 three and Vita. There was a it was in the Deception series. They're 1256 01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:56.279 saying this one is the Deception four, the Nightmare Princess. Are you what 1257 01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:59.920 did they call that last one? Are you pissed off that it's a weird 1258 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:01.439 numbering thing that we've got going on here? Okay, huh, okay, 1259 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:08.119 well whatever, they wrapped it up neatly. Yeah, that was Deception four 1260 01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:12.279 Blood Ties. That was the PS three one. Yeah, okay, so 1261 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.840 maybe this is maybe this is that plus some stuff I actually don't know, 1262 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:18.319 or maybe maybe it's a Persona two situation that just came out. You remember 1263 01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:24.920 playing it right before I came here, huh stumping over the Memories one twenty 1264 01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:29.159 fifteen, end of July. Oh yeah, so it's looking bleak. That 1265 01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:32.000 fucking Legend of k remake that they've been threatening to release for like the last 1266 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.439 six months, that might actually come out in July, So you guys in 1267 01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:41.600 September whatever, man August fourth rare replay. Yeah, you know that I'm 1268 01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:44.920 super looking for we want to play Cameo on an Xbox One, you know, 1269 01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:47.399 actually, yeah, can you hold that right after this and do that? 1270 01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:53.159 But I'm not gonna I assume that that's exactly how those games will run 1271 01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:55.760 and that replay collection is. It'll just be like, hey, we're gonna 1272 01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:59.359 look, Viva Pinata now works, and you now own Viva Pinata as a 1273 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:01.680 part of buying this disc. The I saw it a little bit of Y 1274 01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:04.199 three. There is a menu that ties all those games together. Yeah, 1275 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:08.439 I know, but I'm sure like at some point like it's the same technology. 1276 01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:10.359 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're probably right about that 1277 01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:14.039 for sure. This gives you a bunch of QR codes. I just want 1278 01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:17.000 to play or sup, I just I want to see what you have to 1279 01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:21.359 spell in our c pro. Yes, absolutely, if it is still Nintendo 1280 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:29.800 or not. And August is Madden that Dishonored definitive thing until dawn. Wait, 1281 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:34.119 Dishonored definitive or Dishonored a definitive edition. So I'm thinking of twenty five. 1282 01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:41.199 I'm thinking of Definitive dark Side dark Side Definitive Definitive. They put out 1283 01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:45.800 some like are they doing work on that? Sounds like it's not just the 1284 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:49.680 PC version on I didn't actually look at the side by side it is. 1285 01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:56.560 Maybe it is dan Geky Bunko Fighting Climax. Yep, that's the that's the 1286 01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:00.039 Vita game, right this. Yeah, that's just fun to say. And 1287 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.720 gecky Bunko bunk some dice game my grandma places. Yeah, is that what 1288 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:08.119 this is? Yes, totally, well, this is the Dane version. 1289 01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:11.920 Okay, yes, she loves that. Okay, good wait what okay, 1290 01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:17.279 sorry, I'm oh okay, Uh, it's started. It is started. 1291 01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:19.840 We have find I'm sorry to just like sit here and look at web pages 1292 01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:26.159 and freak out, but uh, the hockey game for Xbox three sixty this 1293 01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:30.000 year is just called NHL Legacy Addition. Like they've taken the number off of 1294 01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:31.479 it. I'm wrapping it up like I'm looking at the Fox art. There's 1295 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:35.720 no number on it, no more NHL, meaning meaning that they will probably 1296 01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:41.079 put it out forever. And now I don't know. I don't know what 1297 01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:42.960 that. I can know what it means. Is it gonna be the same 1298 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.520 game with just the rosters updated or yeah, that's that's typically like when they 1299 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:53.520 when they put the old platforms into like, I'm just it's still NHL NHL 1300 01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:59.359 sixteen on modern consoles, where they will happily sell you a deluxe edition for 1301 01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:02.439 an addition to end spot of course, if if you want to fucking go 1302 01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:08.119 down that hole. E d F two in September. Yeah, what do 1303 01:17:08.199 --> 01:17:11.399 they call the last DF? The second? This is the second D the 1304 01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:15.159 second DF game or at the Fence Force? Yeah, now they have twenty 1305 01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.560 fifty or something. Yeah, they've in Japan, They've done numbers. There 1306 01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:21.359 have been years on them. There have been two thousand and fifty of those 1307 01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:25.600 games, haven't there something like that. I think there's four, but each 1308 01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:30.159 one just gets worse. Take that back, man, take it back. 1309 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:33.600 Still a three people that love, like and ironically love those I have a 1310 01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:36.439 lot of fun playing those. I'm not. I'm not going to dispute their 1311 01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:41.600 funness or whatever. That's obviously we can disagree on that stuff. But those 1312 01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:44.119 games are shit. I agree. I don't know what you're talking about. 1313 01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:47.439 It'll look like trash. What are you talking about? I get that, 1314 01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:50.720 like, it's funny that the fucking bugs don't move and just fucking disappear off 1315 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:54.439 the stage. Me when you kill them? There I mean there's basically the 1316 01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:57.960 video game equivalent of a bad B movie, right, Yeah, and they 1317 01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.520 embrace that. Yeah, that's fine. I feel like they embrace like like, 1318 01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:04.079 yes, they embrace what they like they had the rest of Yeah, 1319 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:09.680 exactly. It's not like they're not like masterful developers making some amazing thing that 1320 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.079 way on purpose. They're like, let's just fucking lean into the part that 1321 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.880 sucks and eventually fucking that because that's what all the people who like this game 1322 01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:18.479 are doing. See, they're fucking brilliant. Yeah, no, totally, 1323 01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:25.000 yes, you're right, you're right. I know video games are slowing down 1324 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:30.119 during the long hot summer. Time to yeah, time to cultivate some other 1325 01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:31.520 interests for a couple of months. No, don't, don't. Don't listen 1326 01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:33.720 to him. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, I was stay inside. There 1327 01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:39.239 will be plenty of video games you could be playing on Steam or probably downloading 1328 01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:42.680 a lot of stuff. Looking at the games you can download from three sixty 1329 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.319 now, I saw you can download Banjo Kazooi, and so I thought, 1330 01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:46.760 like, maybe this is the summer that I actually just go through one hundred 1331 01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.039 percent Bando Kazooi. Why would you do that? I don't know. I 1332 01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:53.920 don't really want to. I don't really like bandok. Yeah, like that's 1333 01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:57.479 I don't like it, and that's both good good game. But yeah, 1334 01:18:57.520 --> 01:18:59.880 I never I used to rent Bando Kazooi A sixty four. It didn't like 1335 01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:02.239 it that much. I feel weirdly guilty that I haven't beaten Banjo Kazooi, 1336 01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.199 and so I see it. Let go of that. Yeah, you have 1337 01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:08.159 to. You have to see it every time I go to my games on 1338 01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:11.520 Xbox. Yeah. Now it stares you in the face every time you go 1339 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:15.720 to that HD. You'll never escape it. I have to beat Banjo ka 1340 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:19.840 Zooi. No you don't. No, you don't know new video series me 1341 01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:26.840 one hundred percent of Bandok ZOOI don't say things allowed. I don't actually want 1342 01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:28.800 to do that. Yeah, I don't want to do that. Now that's 1343 01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.560 going to be fifteen comments. Gun, yeah, drood watch that. No, 1344 01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:35.239 there's not I'm cutting this part, all right, please do I'll save 1345 01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:39.439 us all Thank you. I have that power, Thank you. Uh. 1346 01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:42.640 I didn't play any video games this weekend, but I did. Uh. 1347 01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:45.760 I got out and saw both of the Book of Mormon and then Mad Max. 1348 01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:48.319 It was a good weekend. Yeah, I don't think I can consume 1349 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.920 any other media for the rest of the year. You see your Assic World, 1350 01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:56.000 No, I saw that. No, So you saw Mad Max for 1351 01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:59.039 the first time yesterday. That is a great movie. It's pretty good. 1352 01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.279 Yea. By pretty good, I mean it's fucking glorious. Yeah. I've 1353 01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:04.640 been waiting for this. It's really good now and maybe I'll see it. 1354 01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.560 It is pretty fucking good. It's as good as everyone say it is. 1355 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.279 Yeah, it's it sounds great. It kind of makes me want to go 1356 01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:13.760 back and watch the old movies. You've seen them, right? No? 1357 01:20:14.279 --> 01:20:15.600 Oh, I mean I've seen Road Warrior. Are they similar in tone? 1358 01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.800 I mean Road Warriors kind of. I saw those things so long ago that 1359 01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:23.319 I just I barely remember anything about Mad Max. No, like Roadwarrier, 1360 01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:27.880 No, the second one? Yeah? Uh wait, Mad Max is the 1361 01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:31.199 first one, right, Mad Max is the first one. If you want 1362 01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:35.199 to see something kind of tone tonally similar, it would be the Road Warrior, 1363 01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:38.399 which is the best one by far. Like one of the things I 1364 01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:40.680 found so fascinating about the movie, and like this is not the only thing 1365 01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:44.560 I liked about it by any means, but like the weird societal aspects of 1366 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:48.239 it, or the sociological stuff, you know, like the bizarre like fetishization 1367 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:54.000 of like chrome hot rod, fucking Himmi engine stuff, you know what I 1368 01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:58.199 mean, like like they're mixing, like they're mixing hot rods and Valhalla together 1369 01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:00.520 and stuff like that. You know, like all the weird it around, 1370 01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:03.960 like this cult cultish like society that has sprung up. I liked it when 1371 01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:06.560 they threw sticks at cars and they blew up. That was pretty good. 1372 01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:09.720 That was a good part. I like that. I mean everything about it 1373 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.279 is is good. It's very good. I really like the very getting and 1374 01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:17.039 just yeah yeah, oh that visually it's incredible. Anyone else here's world, 1375 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.760 No, No, I read Okay, it's pretty good. Yeah, that's 1376 01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:25.640 what I hear about that. I read the Miller like toyed with the frame 1377 01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:29.520 rate and practically every every shot of Mad Max like speeding up and slowing down 1378 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:32.359 the frame rate to his whim kind of to make things like hit harder. 1379 01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:34.760 You can really tell in certain spots, like at the beginning. Yeah, 1380 01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:38.960 they're super obvious with it. I won't go on at lengths about it. 1381 01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:43.000 Everything. I'm the last person in the world besides Jeff Sward Like everything's like 1382 01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:45.279 center shot and and just like all up in your face, constant motion. 1383 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:49.720 Oh god, it's great, it's really good. Good. All right, 1384 01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:54.479 I guess we should move on to news. Dan geky Bunko. Yeah, 1385 01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:58.800 but yes, it seems fun to say. That's gross. It sounds gross. 1386 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:01.880 I don't think you're Let's move on the boom Co. Let's move on 1387 01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:10.800 the news Fighting Climax what is that same game? Yeah, we should definitely 1388 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.359 move on to news. Then all the words in that title play an important 1389 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:19.760 part. They use every piece of the title. Yeah. Uh, Batman, 1390 01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:25.800 he's awesome if you guys played Batman. No, let's talk about it 1391 01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:30.479 all right. War Brothers had some week last week, huh, with the 1392 01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:33.359 release of this PC version of Batman. Oh boy, coming hot off the 1393 01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:38.880 heels of the release of the PC version of Mortal Combat. Yeah, coming 1394 01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:41.960 hot off the heels of like Shadow of Mortar, which is actually a really 1395 01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:44.880 good PC port. That's true. Yeah, that's you know, that's that 1396 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.039 hadn't actually thought about that. I hadn't thought about Shadow Mortar. I have 1397 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:51.960 totally forgot about that because from my perspective remembering the MKX stuff, not that 1398 01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:55.439 that was like two months ago. Yeah, that was a total shit show, 1399 01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.920 Like and everybody's everybody's rushed to blame Rocksteady and our galaxy for this mess. 1400 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:01.880 I was just like, does nobody paying attention to the fact that WB 1401 01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:06.560 is the ones that keeps putting out these like wretched PC ports, because like, 1402 01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:12.560 arguably Mortal Kombat was even more on fire than Batman. Yeah, there 1403 01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:14.800 was a lot of fucked up ship with that game. When I launched like 1404 01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:17.960 that, I was playing on PS four while they were patching at a billion 1405 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:19.920 times. But it was like one of the things where apparently they just couldn't 1406 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.840 fucking patch a part of the game, so every time I launched Steam, 1407 01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:29.000 it was downloading another ten gigs, like thanks Mortal Kombats. In some cases, 1408 01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:30.279 Yeah, it's just like you know, and like they'd release a patch 1409 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:35.479 that deleted people saves at one point, like a lot of people couldn't download 1410 01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:39.640 the entire game for a very long time, Like that thing was a holy 1411 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:43.199 shita. At least Batman. People are able to download and boot the game, 1412 01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:45.560 but I'm sure it doesn't excuse what was wrong with it. They can't 1413 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:47.399 run it very well. It's like the stuff with Batman. It seems like 1414 01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:50.960 there are two, Like there there are people having technical issues with the game, 1415 01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:55.399 and then there are there's the part where like just it's a fucking suck 1416 01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.880 ass PC version of that game. In terms of available options. Yeah, 1417 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.359 well, i'd say optimization probably falls into the first category. She will have 1418 01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:05.960 actual issues with like the frame rate, but even if it ran playably, 1419 01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:10.479 Yeah, but the okay, it's locked at thirty, you go into the 1420 01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:13.880 menu options, there's kind of fuck all there to mess with, Like that's 1421 01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:16.000 no good either. Uh, yeah, I don't know. I was able 1422 01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:21.199 to run it at a stable thirty with everything all their fucking NVIDIAs specific bullshit 1423 01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:29.399 turned on except for fog, and I was able to get a solid thirty 1424 01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:32.000 out of it and not really have any other issues. But yeah, it 1425 01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:35.840 sounds like there's some real funky shit. I think maybe one of the craziest 1426 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:39.239 things to me is the fact that in the state it was in, you 1427 01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:42.640 still had like the Nvidio partnership and all the like big business stuff going on 1428 01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.319 around it. You know, that's probably why I had to come out date 1429 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.560 And maybe maybe that's so much stuff. You know, it's like everyone says, 1430 01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.680 like why don't they delay this game. It's it's probably because they are 1431 01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:56.720 fucking signing so many. It's why it's why all bad games come out, 1432 01:24:56.880 --> 01:25:00.960 is because now there's so much marketing money being fucking focused on pushing a date 1433 01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:04.199 that if they missed that date, it's all money out the window or something. 1434 01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:11.199 Right, So nothing fails certain anymore. Everything fucking somehow magically makes their 1435 01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:15.600 fucking ship date with a big day one patch and stuff like. It's just 1436 01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:17.680 even easier on PC, where there is a serat yeah, yeah, shove 1437 01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:23.000 whatever out there, and then everybody asks for a refund now, so oh 1438 01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:26.119 shit, we shouldn't take this thing down before we don't make any money on 1439 01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:29.159 it whatsoever. Imagine how many people ask for Yeah, I would love to 1440 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:32.560 know a gotally. I saw a plenty of the forum comments and stuff from 1441 01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:36.600 people saying they had Yeah. I mean even like green Man Gaming came out 1442 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:40.079 and said like, hey, if f after the first patch comes out, 1443 01:25:40.119 --> 01:25:44.199 it's still fucked. We'll do some refunds, yeah, which they are not. 1444 01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:48.239 They're not. I don't found by the Steam stuff. Yeah, I 1445 01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:50.840 don't know. Yeah, it's it's one of those things where it's like it's 1446 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.520 you know, yeah, a lot of people trying to point a lot of 1447 01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:57.279 fingers in a lot of directions. None of us worked on that game. 1448 01:25:57.319 --> 01:26:00.680 I don't know who to blame, but it's a shitty situation shouldn't for all 1449 01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:03.199 involved. I would love to know what actually happened. Yeah, I love 1450 01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:08.680 to know. Yeah, I don't think it's falls that Iron Galaxies feed. 1451 01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:11.560 Like there's always like ten or twelve people that were listening to the credits. 1452 01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:15.840 There's not even as yeah, as additional PC support or something like. I 1453 01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:18.520 don't know, it may have well been their fault. My gut says it 1454 01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:23.800 probably wasn't. But yeah, but like the rush to dig through the credits 1455 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:26.600 and pick out a few names and then like start tracking down there like social 1456 01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:30.159 media profiles and stuff like fucking come on, yeah, I mean, like 1457 01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:32.520 if the buck stops with the money people who decided to ship the broken game, 1458 01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.359 like that's the bottom of life. It's weird because we, you know, 1459 01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:38.000 we know a couple of people in Iron Galaxies, Like I haven't talked 1460 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:42.600 to any of them about this. I haven't either, but because I don't 1461 01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:46.880 have that phone number anymore. But yes, uh yeah. The point is 1462 01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:49.800 though, like it's whether it's whether it's due to an aptitude or a lack 1463 01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:56.439 of resources, or like a ridiculous, unachievable like release schedule. The people 1464 01:26:56.520 --> 01:26:58.880 at the top of the publisher are the only people that have the power to 1465 01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:01.319 actually prevent this thing from going out there. Yeah, like they're kind of 1466 01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:05.119 like the last line of defense as a go no go sort of thing. 1467 01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:10.279 And yeah, you know, like that's you know, those are the people 1468 01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:12.560 that are getting your money. Those are people that are gonna give you your 1469 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:16.359 money back. So I'd probably try to hammer on them because they're the ones 1470 01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:18.680 that are gonna be able to say, Okay, let's put more money into 1471 01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:23.600 unfucking the situation. But whatever, I don't know, you know, like 1472 01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:27.199 people are mad. Yeah, sure, like they're gonna do what they So, 1473 01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:33.000 yeah, it's a what do you take PC games specialty shop like this, 1474 01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:36.880 it's it's you know, the past. Yeah, exactly before this year. 1475 01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:40.520 I remember, was it like two years ago that we Yeah, it 1476 01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:42.199 was kind of like we're I feel like we're out there going like, man, 1477 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:44.840 they fucking finally got there. Man. PC ports are great, man, 1478 01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:46.319 fuck consoles like the holy shit. And then big a bunch of big 1479 01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:50.119 publishers turned around and proved us wrong. Yeah right, uh yeah, it's 1480 01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:55.399 a it's unfortunate, fucked up situation like this. Yeah, a platform like 1481 01:27:55.479 --> 01:28:00.199 that that has the capability of like so far above and beyond what modern consoles 1482 01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.960 are capable of, like the ships like that. Like it's just a clear 1483 01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:09.039 cut case of like not really carrying caring about that platform. That's That's exactly 1484 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:12.439 what I was all ready to come into this podcast and kind of belly ache 1485 01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:15.159 about until Jason brought up Shadow of Mortar and I was like, oh, 1486 01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:18.000 I guess they are capable of I mean that publisher totally, it is capable 1487 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:21.520 of putting out a functional PC game. They just have to hire the right 1488 01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:27.840 people, yeah weird or or you know like like give the original developer enough 1489 01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:30.039 of a budget to do it in the house or like whatever it takes, 1490 01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:31.720 Yeah, just do it right. You know. Batman was a game that 1491 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:34.159 was pushed back quite a bit, Yes, and you know, like there 1492 01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:38.720 was that demo that were you there for that demo? Like they I saw 1493 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.600 it at GDC last year, that that very first demo that was before I 1494 01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:44.880 had played it. You came back saying it ran and granted it's over a 1495 01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:47.039 year and a half ago now, yes, But also like the problems with 1496 01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:50.359 that build were so egregious that it wasn't even like, oh, they shouldn't 1497 01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:53.239 ship it like this. It was like they should not have brought it to 1498 01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:55.520 this meeting like this, Like they should not be showing this at all. 1499 01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.159 It was so fucked up that you couldn't play it, Like I don't know 1500 01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:00.560 how the guy was playing it. Yeah, it was like, you know, 1501 01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:02.640 like every two three seconds, the game was just hitching, like freezing 1502 01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:05.479 for a solid second like stuff like that. Yeah, but you know if 1503 01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:08.600 that was like you know, that might have been the console version running on 1504 01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:11.079 a dev kit PC, like who knows what that was true? Yeah, 1505 01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:15.880 but it's you know, it's fucked up situation, no matter how they got 1506 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:16.880 to this point. Yeah, it sounds like, I mean, whatever, 1507 01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:19.920 you like, any of these situations that will get unfucked We will get patched 1508 01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:24.640 away, everyone will forget and move on. And I was surprised they will 1509 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:28.079 just get slightly more angry next time it happens, until everything blows up. 1510 01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:30.920 I don't know, like what the endgame is here? Yeah, Like people 1511 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:35.840 don't remember, they don't, they don't the anger doesn't stick for most people. 1512 01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:39.439 Maybe like how I don't know if it's wishful thinking, but maybe the 1513 01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:42.560 Steam refund stuff is gonna just head it off at the pass, you know, 1514 01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:45.079 like it'sily just going to say to people like, you can't put games 1515 01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:48.680 out that are this fuck up anymore because you're just you'll lose all the money 1516 01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:50.680 you could have made on them. Yeah, and as a consumer, it's 1517 01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:54.319 still instills a little bit of confidence in me as well, Like it's it's 1518 01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:57.319 such a crapshoot. You know, you don't know if the game's gonna run 1519 01:29:57.399 --> 01:29:59.239 right well, but you know, having that little, you know, bit 1520 01:29:59.319 --> 01:30:01.199 of like some kind of lever you can pull when when you get fucked, 1521 01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:04.720 Like, that's what people need. That's it's what everyone it has needed for 1522 01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:09.600 for a long time. It's you wonder, you know, like I don't 1523 01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:13.319 expect them to go down this road because they don't have to because they're still 1524 01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:15.079 selling retail discs and those have their own return policies and stuff. But you 1525 01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:19.720 start to wonder, like will Microsoft and Sony ever get into that type of 1526 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:25.960 business? Would they ever add something similar unless they you know, like certainly 1527 01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:28.880 in some territories they would be legally obligated to do so. Yeah, Like 1528 01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:30.479 the EU has its own rules for for that sort of stuff, right, 1529 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:34.680 But like would Microsoft ever say like, oh, yeah, no, we're 1530 01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:40.840 totally allowing refunds like this seems like their approach for their kind of early access 1531 01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:45.520 equivalent is the free demos for required for every game that goes into that. 1532 01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:48.279 I wish they had kept that requirement for every game like they had on the 1533 01:30:48.279 --> 01:30:51.000 three sixty. It sounds like the numbers just didn't make sense, like the 1534 01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:55.079 people were just going right to the retail, right to the paid version of 1535 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:57.479 the game and weren't even downloading the demo, you know. So it's just 1536 01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:00.520 it sounds like that that was a lot of work the developers were doing that 1537 01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:05.119 no one actually cared about. When did they abandon that was for this platform? 1538 01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:09.720 Yeah? Yeah, Okay, there may have been one or two exceptions 1539 01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.560 on three three sixty, but I can't think every game was required of a 1540 01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:16.279 demo, every lag, every downloadable game. The game had to have a 1541 01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:19.039 try not not disc based case, but at least at least but they at 1542 01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:24.079 least had some standardization there. Yeah, and I don't like if if you 1543 01:31:24.199 --> 01:31:28.159 know, if they haven't started doing it already, Like, it's hard to 1544 01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:32.720 imagine a game being worse than the Master Chief collection in terms of being broken 1545 01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:38.680 and staying broken. From say, I might actually say, like Assassin's Creed 1546 01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:43.399 was was worse at the time, but at the length of time for Halo, 1547 01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:45.760 and maybe it makes it worse either way, though actually maybe, you 1548 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:48.399 know, it's hard to say. I think some of my core disappointment is 1549 01:31:48.439 --> 01:31:50.760 that I just don't think a sass Creed Unity was a good game, Like, 1550 01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:53.479 even when it was working, it was like, this is not something 1551 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:55.199 I wanted. I think, like, like you know, the frame rate 1552 01:31:55.279 --> 01:31:58.039 was horrible, like lots of the Companion app stuff was broken, but I 1553 01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:00.880 think people were able to finish it, even though, like you know, 1554 01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:04.159 there might have been eyeballs popping out of every NPC. The game was way 1555 01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:09.840 better then, but master Chief just had core functionality that didn't work for months. 1556 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.800 You know, I think they're still working on it in some forms. 1557 01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:15.920 But but either way, like if they the events of Last Fall did not 1558 01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:21.279 usher in some glorious new age of console refunds. Stuff takes time to implement, 1559 01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:24.800 and I you know there are I know there are studios out there that 1560 01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:30.079 are like imposing some more pressure on or on some of their dev teams, 1561 01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:32.720 saying like this can't happen to us, see to it, it does not. 1562 01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:36.439 Yeah, So, like you know, I think there it was some 1563 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:43.239 fallout from Assassin's Creed from Halo that that will hopefully get things in a better 1564 01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:47.720 direction there well should be. My only fear is that instead of like you 1565 01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:50.920 know, like you know, working conditions are already so miserable in a lot 1566 01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:54.880 of game development, Like, my only fear is that the publishers are just 1567 01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:58.680 coming down even harder on people that are already like sacrificing their entire lives to 1568 01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:00.800 make games. Right. Yeah, if it just becomes like, hey, 1569 01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:03.840 we're not giving you any additional resources for QA or are actually fixing the things 1570 01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:10.319 that QA finds, We're just gonna fire you, right, goes Yeah, 1571 01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:12.600 instead of like, hey, we're gonna give you a bigger team or whatever 1572 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:14.520 it is that they need. If the solution is just hey, you're just 1573 01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:16.960 gonna crunch, but you know all the time harder than that sucks too. 1574 01:33:17.159 --> 01:33:21.399 That that assumes that these dev teams are working efficiently and intelligently, and there 1575 01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:25.720 are there aren't ways they could be structured to avoid this problem without a ton 1576 01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:30.079 of additional resources. I don't I don't know enough about any of these studios 1577 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:34.640 to weigh in on that something's gotta change, though, Something's gotta give. 1578 01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:39.800 Yeah, it starts here. It's been it's been a rough year or so. 1579 01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:44.359 Yeah, for video game releases. Yeah, I was able to play 1580 01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:46.880 a cup around to Halo two last week. Yeah, it took a while 1581 01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:49.960 to get connected, but I got in there a little bit really Yeah. 1582 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:55.199 Still still kind of took a long time. Yeah, still I got in 1583 01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:59.600 there. I haven't finished the whole whole match. I think the most of 1584 01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:01.920 the stuff then. Also, the Street Fighter four PS four edition is fixed. 1585 01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:05.479 Yes, I saw, I saw another patch either was coming or just 1586 01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:10.600 came out. Good for them, bad for them for sucking it up in 1587 01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:12.880 the Yeah, what the fuck? That game has been out on like four 1588 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:15.960 other platforms already, Like, how did that even happen? Yeah, there's 1589 01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:23.159 been numerous developers touching that for like all the different ports. So how long 1590 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:27.600 do you guys, how do you guys think until Batman is like maybe not 1591 01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.840 as patches it's going to get, but basically where it needs to be so 1592 01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:35.319 that that patch they put out did it fixed a couple of things, specific 1593 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:38.359 things, but then they kind of said like, hey, we're still working 1594 01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:40.680 on this business. They very much said. I looked at the patch notes, 1595 01:34:40.720 --> 01:34:42.920 they very much said like, this is a preliminary patch. This is 1596 01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:45.159 It sounded like that was the short list of things they could get done immediately, 1597 01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.840 but then the bigger stuff, like they even mentioned like, hey, 1598 01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:51.800 we're working on v M usage and stuttering and stuff like that. I thought 1599 01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:56.319 that was included that maybe I just read that. No, there was like 1600 01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:59.439 no the stuff. Yeah, okay, there was a bigger list of stuff 1601 01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:01.279 they're still working in the patch notes, and there was stuff they already fixed. 1602 01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:06.439 But they keep saying they're taking it super seriously, and even if they 1603 01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:11.640 aren't, they have to say that at this because there's been like a lot 1604 01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:14.239 of outrage and it's one of the things where it's like, yeah, I 1605 01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:16.319 think I think people are are right to be mad, but maybe it's gone 1606 01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:20.119 a little too far in some cases. Yeah, imbody there, Yeah, 1607 01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:24.760 it man fine for me, but I'm yeah, it's ship. I guess 1608 01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:27.680 that's that's maybe just you know, like also it ran fine for me. 1609 01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:30.520 Yeah, it's it's probably easy for me to say that. It's kind of 1610 01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.279 it's it's a it's a crappy world where you have to like think about going 1611 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:36.199 with the console version just because that's the only one that might work, probably 1612 01:35:36.359 --> 01:35:42.920 right, It's really it's a real shame, these big, big beefied fancy 1613 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.760 GPUs just sitting there. Hey, damn good money, just sitting there. 1614 01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:49.960 Yeah. Uh man, everybody had a week last week? Huh oh yeah 1615 01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:55.800 about that Destiny well fuck right? Yeah. At a moment, I was 1616 01:35:55.880 --> 01:35:58.760 like, who else, Like, oh right, yeah, I'm not even 1617 01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:00.800 sure which one was worse, And that game is a death by fucking the 1618 01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:04.000 now thousand cuts. I guess, so every every time you turn around, 1619 01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:08.119 there's nine more dumb things about Destiny happening. And then I guess that that 1620 01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:13.239 interview with Luke Smith just became the boiling point. I don't know what happen. 1621 01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:15.359 Was there like a shader that got released that wasn't the separate thing that's 1622 01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:19.159 basically as well, I know it's not a separate shader that I got by 1623 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:24.000 pre ordering Advanced Warfare was given out at E three. Really, it's not 1624 01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:28.880 the shady that was my actually exclusive fucking shader. Fucked those assholes and went 1625 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.239 to E three. They should have fucking bought Advanced Warfare. It was a 1626 01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:33.800 good game, Fuck them, didn't. Didn't you have to pre order it 1627 01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:36.680 though? Yes, like once the game was out you couldn't even still get 1628 01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:40.760 the shader. Yes, you should have thought ahead. Hey, if you 1629 01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:45.399 fucking care so much about Destiny, you fucking need a black fucking shader so 1630 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:49.600 fucking bad. You should have spent one hundred dollars on fucking the high end 1631 01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:54.159 version of Advanced Warfare. I got one of those codes and the shader it 1632 01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:58.920 was not what I thought. It was not even a black armor color. 1633 01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.720 It's it's literally all it's that's the color of your armor is dictated by this 1634 01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:04.760 thing you equip. And people care about this stuff. Oh yeah, I 1635 01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:08.680 think it determines the way your guy looks or your girl, like the you 1636 01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:12.079 know, the so what do you have to collect like five different purple shaders 1637 01:37:12.119 --> 01:37:15.920 if you wanted the color every part of yours. One thing. Stuff It's 1638 01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:19.560 it's like, it's like, wow, it's a shitty form of customization because 1639 01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:25.239 you can't customize individuals just you just equip it and it matches well, that's 1640 01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:27.920 what you want. But you're right. If you could just like move an 1641 01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.399 RGB slider around the thing, yeah, why not? Better? Hey why 1642 01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:32.279 not? They don't have the tech yet for that. Yeah. It's hard 1643 01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:35.399 stuff, but hard problems. But it is at least like a kind of 1644 01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:39.920 a one button if you buy three cases of Red Bull, you'll get one 1645 01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:43.319 RGB slide or get to that. We're getting to that. There's a lot 1646 01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:46.399 to unpack here, Uh, I mean so the interview, Yeah, it 1647 01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:49.880 was. It was around the Collector's edition of the Taking King, the expansion 1648 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:54.479 they're putting out, the high end version of the game, which comes with 1649 01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:56.600 everything. It's it's so, it's so, it's it's their Game of the 1650 01:37:56.680 --> 01:37:59.600 Year edition equivalent, where it's like you buy it the day that Taking King 1651 01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:02.640 comes out out it comes with yes, exactly, it is the here is 1652 01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:09.760 everything, Destiny go. It's how many shaders you will You will be able 1653 01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:14.840 to acquire a lot of shaders over the course of your your experience in Destiny. 1654 01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:16.399 I bet, I bet I have at least a dozen at this point, 1655 01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:25.399 including Blacksmith. God damn. So yeah, gave me the edition previous 1656 01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:29.840 ship there was a Collector's edition of this thing that comes with additional items, 1657 01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.319 including a shader that is super black. It is blacker than the black shader 1658 01:38:33.399 --> 01:38:36.920 that came with Advanced Warfare. So the Blacksmith's not really THEO. It's like 1659 01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:41.079 more kind of gray and gold. That's a little dispoint. I don't care, 1660 01:38:41.239 --> 01:38:44.880 okay, But what's so the VP shader, the actual black v IP 1661 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:48.279 ship, that's what it's called. Yeah, excuse me, he three. 1662 01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:53.439 That's an item you get playing the game. So that one one that's not 1663 01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:56.479 and that's not part of the collectors So that shader, that all black shader 1664 01:38:56.520 --> 01:38:59.000 and the other things that come with that everybody can get. Okay, all 1665 01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:01.439 right? So what what? What was in the Oh god? So I 1666 01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:05.000 believe that's the VIP package. Yeah, okay, I believe the thing the 1667 01:39:05.119 --> 01:39:09.960 thing in contention was a different set, Yes, was the digital If you 1668 01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:14.600 pre order the Collector it comes with the Collector's Edition, comes with the eighty 1669 01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:17.479 dollars package, the eighty dollars package of everything, and that was there's a 1670 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:21.279 sixty dollars package of everything that doesn't come with this stuff. Right, No, 1671 01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:27.000 there's a non Collector's edition version of here is all of Destiny isn't there. 1672 01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:30.319 No, I'm sorry, there isn't there. Think it is the eighty 1673 01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:32.560 to get the Can you pay forty to just get the Taken King if you 1674 01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:39.159 already have Destiny, so eighty to get Destiny the two previous DLCs and the 1675 01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:42.840 Takens though, like in the forty dollars edition. No, okay, So 1676 01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:45.800 so that's that's why people were mad. It's it's uh right, it's not 1677 01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:48.159 just shade because it was I think it's shaders. It was there were some 1678 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:51.520 some items you could equip that make you gay XP faster, which obviously for 1679 01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:55.880 new players is just gonna get them ramped up to the VACKS level or whatever. 1680 01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:59.960 The thing people are the maddest about was that there are new Bonus Day 1681 01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:04.560 emotes. Keep talking like this. This is like, I think the way 1682 01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:09.399 that Bungee and or act whoever the fuck has handled this has been they have 1683 01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:12.840 bungled it. Yeah, but there's also the part where people are flipping about 1684 01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:16.479 it out about fucking dance emotes. I'm with you on both counts. To 1685 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:20.520 be fair, are winners in this fight? No they're not. Wow, 1686 01:40:20.720 --> 01:40:25.720 No, they're not. Uh. In all fairness, it's the first time 1687 01:40:25.840 --> 01:40:29.760 that new dances have been added to the game. There was there was any 1688 01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:33.520 take everything. It will be three dances, one per class, one per 1689 01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:38.079 class, so you will you know, unless you're playing multiple characters, you 1690 01:40:38.119 --> 01:40:42.840 will only benefit to one dance. Okay, I mean to the two to 1691 01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:45.760 one dance. Everybody everybody's had the default emotes that they've had since the game 1692 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:49.319 shipped, So this is the first time that anybody has had the chance to 1693 01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:54.000 get new ones. But only if you pay the eighty dollars for the thing 1694 01:40:54.439 --> 01:40:58.119 which comes with like the bulk of the that stuff is stuff you already own. 1695 01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:00.000 So yeah, if you care about these dances, yes, forty dollars 1696 01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:03.880 difference between just the standard like upgrade. Yes, hers is buying this whole 1697 01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:08.720 new package, some shaders and dancements. So people were super mad about that 1698 01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:13.399 coming out of the three Yeah, and then this interview happened. What happened 1699 01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:17.560 in the interview, Luke Smith talked about some stuff. Yeah, in a 1700 01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:23.439 way that did not translate very well to text form. Okay, like you 1701 01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:27.000 know, if you was maybe a little flip, very more than a little 1702 01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:29.760 you know, that's kind of if you think about Yeah, if you think 1703 01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:33.159 about our discussion that we had with him during E three, like you were 1704 01:41:33.199 --> 01:41:38.800 the catalyst you started this kind of you know, like he's an easy going 1705 01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:41.600 guy, sure, or even going back to stuff he did on one up, 1706 01:41:41.680 --> 01:41:45.439 like he's he's he's very kind of boisterous and sarcastic, like super sarcastic. 1707 01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:49.279 Seat. I like, but that doesn't necessarily translate well when you transcribe 1708 01:41:50.199 --> 01:41:54.399 I got stuff. So I think his response to like, you know, 1709 01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:58.319 someone saying like, why are you charging this much for the Destiny emotes, 1710 01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:00.880 his response was something along I don't have the quote, but it's like, 1711 01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:04.199 so you're telling me you would pay separately for these dancing months, right, 1712 01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:08.760 And there was a different There was another instance yeah, which I'm sure in 1713 01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:11.720 the interview, like he may have he probably met it that way, because 1714 01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:15.560 you'd be insane, knowing the history of destiny and its reputation to be maybe 1715 01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:19.039 serious idea about I was not there for that interview. He could have been 1716 01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:25.880 ice cold about that shit. We don't know. The other quote, which 1717 01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:30.960 I think is more damning, was something along the lines of like, well, 1718 01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:31.800 yeah, if you saw it, if we had it right in front 1719 01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:34.000 of you here and you saw what we're offering, you would throw money at 1720 01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:39.279 the screen. So but that was like people who that was a question though, 1721 01:42:39.319 --> 01:42:41.920 wasn't like you saw here you would throw money at the screen. Maybe 1722 01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:45.960 like that was the read I got out. That's yeah, but that's the 1723 01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:49.279 line I've seen passed around more than anything else. As the uproar has increased 1724 01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:54.079 over the stuff, So the upshot this is where it gets really good. 1725 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:58.920 It gets really good. So they they quickly quickly. This was this was 1726 01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:04.479 the damage control when when when confronted with this situation, the mind's behind destiny, 1727 01:43:04.880 --> 01:43:10.680 presumably people at Bungee and at Activision came together and said, we have 1728 01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:14.000 to solve this problem. We've got a we've got a real problem out here. 1729 01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:15.600 We've got a bunch of angry players that want this stuff. And the 1730 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:21.840 solution is sell it. Tune for twenty dollars, where the fucking dances. 1731 01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:29.520 Those guys are pretty smart over there, good in between point. You know, 1732 01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:31.560 if you don't want to spend the forty I was thinking maybe like twenty 1733 01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:38.800 it is precisely the same. So it is precisely the same amount of money 1734 01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:43.800 then buying the eighty dollars collection. If you think of the game which had 1735 01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:46.199 recently, during that last sale, they reduced the cost of the full game 1736 01:43:46.279 --> 01:43:50.439 and both expansions to about forty bucks. Then the expansion is forty bucks, 1737 01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:57.119 and then there's this twenty dollars extra on top of the or it's it's eighty 1738 01:43:57.199 --> 01:44:00.159 total for the thing. So maybe that math doesn't actually yea, you are 1739 01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:04.399 you're saving twenty dollars, but only twenty dollars savings. But more to the 1740 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:09.760 point, you're paying forty dollars for an expansion that they're claiming is like a 1741 01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:13.520 reasonable portion of the content in the original game. Like they're saying the Taking 1742 01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:15.800 is a lot of content at forty dollars. If it is not paying half 1743 01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:20.640 that four dances, if if at forty dollars, if the Taking King is 1744 01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:27.119 not at least two thirds the size of the base game, then that's fucked 1745 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:29.720 up. I agree with you Ben the last expansions, I think feel like 1746 01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:34.039 the previous expansions have been a bad deal. What kind of mean is they've 1747 01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:38.600 been a questionable deal. That second one was like I played through those story 1748 01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:41.079 missions in one sitting over the course of about an hour and a half and 1749 01:44:41.159 --> 01:44:45.319 said, man fuck and ran that prison once and went man fuck, I 1750 01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:49.039 don't love thousand wolves is better than the one before it, But they're both 1751 01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:53.680 that twenty dollars, they're both kind of just barely there. So the thought 1752 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:57.199 of like paying forty dollars for this thing that is going to reuse existing enemies 1753 01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:01.039 but give them new attacks and a new like shader on themselves elves like already 1754 01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:04.159 like coming out of the three play that stuff is like, no, man, 1755 01:45:04.239 --> 01:45:06.119 yeah, we'll see. I mean, the jury is definitely out on 1756 01:45:06.199 --> 01:45:09.880 the value of this thing. Like some of the stuff they're saying is at 1757 01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:14.760 least promising. But but again, forty dollars for big expansion, twenty dollars 1758 01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:20.239 for three dancing motes, No, why would they do that? God? 1759 01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:26.239 Why? I don't know. The mystery behind the dances is way more interesting 1760 01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:29.880 than true what they actually are, right, I mean obviously because I'm so 1761 01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:31.560 interested. Yeah, if you show what those days, if if if people 1762 01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:34.920 can say, like here's like that can't happen until it's actually been released. 1763 01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:39.159 You know, they can't show these dances ahead of release, turn them on, 1764 01:45:39.279 --> 01:45:41.399 turn them on it like midnight. Yeah, and then it'll be like 1765 01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:44.960 someone will make the animated gift of like these fucking three dances happening and then 1766 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:49.960 go like that's twenty bucks. Ye okay, No, they probably have plenty 1767 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:56.000 of business intelligence that says people will pay for these dances. Yeah, I 1768 01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:58.439 bet they do. I bet they'll do brisk business with it, because I 1769 01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:00.199 mean, there's a large number of people that are still playing Destiny for some 1770 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:04.600 reason, so they're obviously fucking crazy. What he said, I haven't played 1771 01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.279 since forty three. I just want to state for the record, you played 1772 01:46:08.279 --> 01:46:12.199 at three. That was wedn't played that stuff, so you know that's it's 1773 01:46:12.239 --> 01:46:14.640 a little different. I don't think I'll play again until this comes out. 1774 01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:19.399 Yeah. I don't see why you would, pretty sure. So so okay, 1775 01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:21.680 even know where to go with this? Moving on? As if they 1776 01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:28.119 haven't carved up the Destiny experience into like fucked up business holes. So I 1777 01:46:28.199 --> 01:46:30.479 have to imagine on some level, like because if they're gonna do a retail 1778 01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:32.760 version of this collector's edition, they probably had to tell like retailers like, 1779 01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:35.439 hey, you're gonna get these bonus dances, and then they had and then 1780 01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:39.039 they had to say like, oh fuck, we have to give everyone the 1781 01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:41.960 bonus dances, and then they had to say like, Okay, what's the 1782 01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:45.520 way that we can fucking make sure that we don't piss off retailers but still 1783 01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:48.279 give people these bonus dances. And then someone said they wouldn't fuck it. 1784 01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:56.960 I guess that will fucking work. So then there's another layer of fucking bad 1785 01:46:57.039 --> 01:47:00.640 business. This is it's self would be something to roll your eyes at, 1786 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:02.720 like they've been doing it for years. Yeah, you'd be like, oh, 1787 01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:06.279 dumb cosmetic shit, like that's stupid. But given the week that the 1788 01:47:06.359 --> 01:47:11.800 Destiny was already having for them to roll this news out, holy shit, 1789 01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:15.720 holy shit. There will be a quest or is it a quest line. 1790 01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:19.800 They're describing it as like a multipart multipart mission, something that you get from 1791 01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:25.720 buying cans of Red Bull. I think it's just one right, so he 1792 01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:28.479 doesn't need I think you buy one can and you get your code. I 1793 01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:32.680 think there would be xp bonuses that will be on a pergan can basis. 1794 01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:35.720 I don't know if I don't know if that also grants access to this mission. 1795 01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:41.560 I'm I'm guessing that both Red Bull and Destiny have been quickening pulses for 1796 01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:47.279 Yeah press. The press release the actually says pretty much says that the quote 1797 01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:50.079 from some fucking esports sky that's just like, well, could not take it 1798 01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:57.279 to the max. I know that guy with three x's Uh okay, rip 1799 01:47:57.399 --> 01:48:00.359 my shirt off. I mean whatever, Like I I went and bought fucking 1800 01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:08.239 Mountain Dew for what was it the Halo? Did Halo have codes? They 1801 01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:10.920 did do codes for Halo, But I don't know if it was Mountain Dew 1802 01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:13.119 at that point, or if that was off something else. Maybe I'm thinking 1803 01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:15.880 about Mass Fixed, might have been Deritos. I think I went and bought 1804 01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:19.560 bullshit soda I didn't want from Mass Effects. It was called there was called 1805 01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:23.640 the Duty Double XP that came out of Mountain Dew and Doritos. I believe 1806 01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:26.560 I've fallen into that trap when I was way into a game and it's it 1807 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:29.840 feels horrible. I preferred buying Burger King, Combo and the Eils to get 1808 01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:32.760 full ass games, three of them. Yeah whatever, dude. I rolled 1809 01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:35.439 up to have drive through at six am the day those games came out and 1810 01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:41.239 just bought the games. I didn't buying food. I just bought the fucking 1811 01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:44.800 games. We wiled out of the hell. Yeah, now you can do 1812 01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:46.399 that. I also wanted the food. Though, So there's something about the 1813 01:48:46.479 --> 01:48:50.000 novelty of just being handed Xbox three sixty games through a drive through that was 1814 01:48:50.239 --> 01:48:57.439 really really something someone told me. Okay, were you guys under the impression 1815 01:48:57.479 --> 01:49:00.880 that those games were Xbox three sixty games? They work on both Okay, 1816 01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:04.159 I was under the impression they were Xbox three sixty discs. I remember playing 1817 01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:06.880 those games on my three sixty. I thought they had the packaging of the 1818 01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:10.880 three sixty, but they also work in a regular Xbox. Yeah, so 1819 01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:15.720 they were technically Xbox discs that worked on three sixties, right, Did they 1820 01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:20.039 not have achievements and stuff? They achievements? Yeah, okay, I just 1821 01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:25.520 remember being very confused with some kind of weird things for that one purpose. 1822 01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:32.840 And again, let's games well Pocketbye Gracers, Nick King and big Bump, 1823 01:49:33.039 --> 01:49:40.680 Big Bumping Burke on the cover. I think that was okay, it was 1824 01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:49.000 big Bumping, big bumping, Destiny bumping. I don't know. I drink 1825 01:49:50.119 --> 01:49:54.359 one can of Red Bull every six to eight months or so, so like, 1826 01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.159 on a personal level, that seems like a way I could I could 1827 01:49:58.199 --> 01:50:01.439 go through that process and get that quest. Sure, but fuck man like 1828 01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:03.760 on its own, like whatever, you know, kind of like, hey, 1829 01:50:03.880 --> 01:50:06.520 you know, Bia Soda get a bonus like games have done it before. 1830 01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:09.920 It's just more stupid video game marketing. It's part for the course. 1831 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:14.880 But when you take it into context of every little bit of Destiny that has 1832 01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:18.720 has come to pass and the way they're framing their expansion and all that sort 1833 01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:21.119 of stuff, you're just like, fuck man, Like some dude in a 1834 01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:24.640 suit needs to be told to sit the fuck down. Yeah, he's just 1835 01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:28.079 like, look, we have a problem with content in our games, Like 1836 01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:31.079 we can't fucking carve out another chunk of it. Like we're already carving out 1837 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:36.119 stuff for Sony, Like we're already you know, like, yeah, the 1838 01:50:36.319 --> 01:50:41.039 Xbox version of Destiny still doesn't have the exclusive content that launched with the game. 1839 01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:43.880 They'll get it at the one year anniversary. That was the deal, 1840 01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:45.439 was that it was a one year thing, right or it was out in 1841 01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:48.199 the fall. Yet there was some quote from them saying that they were going 1842 01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:54.079 to remix all of those exclusive strikes when they were made available. Why they 1843 01:50:54.159 --> 01:50:56.439 never got it in the first place, Like they haven't seen it. They'll 1844 01:50:56.439 --> 01:50:59.159 be able to play in the original configuration too, It'll be just you know, 1845 01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:00.840 so that means I guess that would come to PS four as well, 1846 01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:03.560 right, so you'd be able to play these updated versions of these strips, 1847 01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:08.199 probably considering that the strikes that we're Sony exclusive, we're not great, the 1848 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:11.000 definitely not the best strikes. You know, they need to do stuff to 1849 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:13.479 them. Yeah, that's true. So with that track record, how good 1850 01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:15.159 is that Red Bull Quest gonna be? It's just like it's gonna be the 1851 01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:18.039 fucking Guard the Urn Quests, but it'll be a giant spinning can of red 1852 01:51:18.079 --> 01:51:21.359 Bull That would actually be awesome if they went down like the fucking like Fantasy 1853 01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:26.960 Star hole of just fucking slot slotting, weird brands and stuff. For like 1854 01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:31.399 Metal Gear have fucking had iPods and Calorie Maids, but like in Japan, 1855 01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:35.119 it's like portable ops or something just straight up have bags of Doritos or something 1856 01:51:35.119 --> 01:51:39.119 that sounds about right. Yeah, it might have been yeah, yeah, 1857 01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:45.680 yeah, like poys. Yeah yeah, they had KFC and Crazy Taxis, 1858 01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:56.800 Damn damn offspring Destiny huh the whole game there. There are likable things about 1859 01:51:57.079 --> 01:52:01.159 Destiny. Unfortunately they keep like obfuscating and pushing those things further and further away 1860 01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:05.319 every time they open their mouth. It's like it's fucking mind blow. I'm 1861 01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:10.800 hopeful about the next expansion. They seem somewhat contrite. I've heard about their 1862 01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:14.079 design missteps, like four times to four already, Brad. Yeah, Like 1863 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:15.920 it's one of those things where like I agree with you, but also playing 1864 01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:21.039 that one mission and seeing the same enemies kind of remixed as opposed to actual 1865 01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:24.479 new content. Yeah. I don't know, Brad, you got any more 1866 01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:27.279 news. I'm not ready to write that off just yet. We will see. 1867 01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:30.600 Have you heard about destiny? I too much? Too much? Have 1868 01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:35.640 I heard about destiny? Oh boy? What don't we want to talk about 1869 01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:41.119 here? Anything other than this? How do we really need a good blow 1870 01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:44.439 my nose? Okay, go for it? Why don't I? Why don't 1871 01:52:44.439 --> 01:52:45.279 I go do that real fast? What do you say? All right? 1872 01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:47.279 All right, I'll be right back. Your phone's ring, right, my 1873 01:52:47.279 --> 01:53:24.680 phone's ringing. I gotta take this, So dude, we're back as your 1874 01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:28.600 nose doing. It's fine for the next like, let's say, twenty to 1875 01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:33.359 thirty minutes before it then becomes I want forty five minutes more of podcast. 1876 01:53:33.399 --> 01:53:39.720 Then I can kind of breathe, man, allergies just now at owing or 1877 01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:42.880 you know, I've gotten really good at getting sick after we travel places this 1878 01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:45.600 year, right, Like it's happened every single time. I have not shaken 1879 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:48.600 this three head cold. But this time he didn't get me sick. So 1880 01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:50.880 I thank you yea for that. Yeah, okay, just because of the 1881 01:53:50.960 --> 01:53:54.640 sheer amount of people in a condensed place. Yeah, you're just there's yeah, 1882 01:53:54.720 --> 01:53:58.840 yeah, it's just people bringing charlst from all over the world. Why 1883 01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:00.279 do you never hear that from like shirts and stuff like that? I never 1884 01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:02.520 hear I was about like you know, packs, flu and stuff, And 1885 01:54:02.520 --> 01:54:06.600 I think like trade shows, you're a specifically you're shaking tons of people's hands. 1886 01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:10.479 Yeah, it touch a lot of handle, touching a lot of controllers 1887 01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:13.079 that people used, Like you know, there's just a lot of vectors for 1888 01:54:13.199 --> 01:54:15.720 its diseases get transmitted a concerts too, but it's usually like in the parking 1889 01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:23.680 lot, right, yeah than different diseases anyway. Uh, you guys see 1890 01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:28.079 this business with the app store with one does the Apple app store app store 1891 01:54:28.439 --> 01:54:34.279 more like crap store? Am I field it? Just ye? I would 1892 01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:41.359 get it shut it down? Get me better than that. Google Play more 1893 01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:45.520 like Google go on? Uh? I thought of one, but it's really 1894 01:54:45.560 --> 01:54:48.439 bad. Yeah. Oh, because it's crappy. I get it, Google 1895 01:54:48.720 --> 01:54:51.720 Google cram. Oh yeah, okay, there you go. All right, 1896 01:54:51.720 --> 01:55:00.000 I'm feeling lucky. Type this in what happened read cray Uh Apple, excuse 1897 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:06.600 me? Yeah? All these this week God, it's this weekend was a 1898 01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:14.720 fucking nightmare. You don't understand. Apple pulled one of their trademark kind of 1899 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:19.119 abrupt unilateral policy moves on the App Store as pertains to games in the middle 1900 01:55:19.199 --> 01:55:24.680 of the the the political hubub around the Confederate flag last week, so this 1901 01:55:24.800 --> 01:55:27.720 pertains to you as well. It's like, wait, what what you try 1902 01:55:27.720 --> 01:55:32.520 to actually like a South Carolina play North Carolina? Shit, South Carolina where 1903 01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:36.479 they actually do fly the fucking Confederate flag over state buildings, which is insane. 1904 01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:42.079 I didn't see it. There was not a ton of You had to 1905 01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:45.000 go a little more backwoods than where I was from Toe to see a whole 1906 01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:46.319 lot of the stars and bars when I was growing up. Yeah, I've 1907 01:55:46.319 --> 01:55:49.119 seen it. I mean, it wasn't that far away, but I would 1908 01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:55.159 have had to go looking for it anyway. Uh. The the political conversation 1909 01:55:55.239 --> 01:55:59.079 around that thing is quite different from the it's in some games conversation I think. 1910 01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:01.039 Yeah, that's what seemed to you know, like a lot of people 1911 01:56:01.079 --> 01:56:05.920 were actually like people who would have the one conversation were actually kind of upset 1912 01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:09.760 from what I could tell about the the app store stuff. Yeah, well 1913 01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:12.039 I should probably say what they actually Yeah, okay, yeah, well they 1914 01:56:12.119 --> 01:56:15.760 yanked any game containing the Confederate flag off the app store, like just just 1915 01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:19.359 in One Fell Swoop without yeah, without even from my understanding, without even 1916 01:56:19.399 --> 01:56:25.079 notifying the developers. So even like historical style games not you know, they're 1917 01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:29.159 not like glorifying specifically. I think that was generally the context it was appearing 1918 01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:33.399 generally. Yeah, I got it. They had a Gettysburg game I remember, 1919 01:56:33.520 --> 01:56:38.279 was one of the first ones. Yeah, but it's yeah, it's 1920 01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:40.680 like I mean, think about the number of World War two flags that have 1921 01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:44.039 like swastikas in the or something like that. Although I feel don't they actually 1922 01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:46.000 kind of go with like the iron cross a lot in in games like I 1923 01:56:46.079 --> 01:56:49.199 feel like they actually avoid sometimes yes, go, well, so if you 1924 01:56:49.279 --> 01:56:53.159 have a swastika in your game, you can't sell it in Germany. Yes, 1925 01:56:53.479 --> 01:56:57.000 uh so in a lot of cases they'll just go cross version, like 1926 01:56:57.119 --> 01:56:59.840 wouldn't matter where they're selling the game. Just get away from the swastka, 1927 01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:03.560 right, but not always. But you know, obviously, like the flag 1928 01:57:03.640 --> 01:57:08.479 showing up any purely historical context is is a different thing from like making a 1929 01:57:08.680 --> 01:57:12.439 statement of values with its redneck rampage a historical game. Yes, yeah, 1930 01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:16.319 it was. That all happened after h No, But you know, I 1931 01:57:16.439 --> 01:57:19.880 think the real point here, the thing to highlight is that it's just kind 1932 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:25.239 of another in the string of Apple making like ridiculous like basically having a pridiculous 1933 01:57:25.239 --> 01:57:29.399 double standard as pertains to games on their service versus everything else. Right, 1934 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:32.039 And they'll you know, I think they've actually gotten so far out there and 1935 01:57:32.079 --> 01:57:34.479 say like, hey, if you want to make statements about things, then 1936 01:57:34.600 --> 01:57:38.439 you should write a book or record an album. Yeah. You know they 1937 01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:42.600 previously view games, yes, as as something that like adults can handle. 1938 01:57:43.159 --> 01:57:46.479 Uh, you know they've they've previously gone after games with sexual content, yeah, 1939 01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:49.960 on the app store and stuff like that. Have they stought them out 1940 01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:54.000 specifically, because they certainly didn't do that in this situation, right, they're 1941 01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:58.119 just like blanket like anything with the Confederate flag. I don't I don't really 1942 01:57:58.199 --> 01:58:01.319 remember hearing about there's been a few cases of specific games being targeted, if 1943 01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:05.279 that's what you mean. But but I think like again they will please had 1944 01:58:05.359 --> 01:58:09.680 a sequence in it where you were doing like a full body there was you 1945 01:58:09.720 --> 01:58:15.000 know, it was technically kind of nudity but not really, and that got 1946 01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:16.239 triggered. I mean, it's like it's kind of one off case, but 1947 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:20.800 you know, like generally speaking, it seems like Apple doesn't give a fuck. 1948 01:58:21.439 --> 01:58:25.319 That's that's another good example of them, of them painting with a pretty 1949 01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:28.319 broad brush on the stuff. And it's like it's such a it's such a 1950 01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:30.560 massive, sprawling platform that goes out to so many people at this point that 1951 01:58:30.640 --> 01:58:34.840 it's a shame that they don't seem to give a shit. And it's like, 1952 01:58:35.039 --> 01:58:38.680 you know whatever, they got up their last keynote and talked about metal 1953 01:58:38.800 --> 01:58:41.199 and how it's going to make games better, they'll be able to be faster 1954 01:58:41.439 --> 01:58:43.920 and you know, and like all that stuff, and then it's like then 1955 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:47.279 when it comes time to actually like looking at the content in those games and 1956 01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:51.239 saying like, hey, can can games say anything more than let's fuck shoot 1957 01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:57.479 up Dog? Right? I think the Apple answer is like no, let's 1958 01:58:57.520 --> 01:59:01.159 crush them Candy Dog, Oh yeah, crush that fucking candy brouh sticks and 1959 01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:06.479 brs. I used to blame this on Steve Jobs, but he's been gone 1960 01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:10.920 so long that I can't. I guess it can't be purely his fault anymore, 1961 01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:14.319 but his philosophies have persistent. Well no, but I mean what I 1962 01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:16.000 was gonna say is that, like they did this dance for years, Like 1963 01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:19.439 remember when they trotted John Carmack out on stage for Doom three. Yeah, 1964 01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:24.800 like almost fifteen years ago the quake the Quake three test debuted on Mac. 1965 01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:27.399 Yeah, totally, Like they have gone through this song and dance over and 1966 01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:30.279 over for at least the last fifteen years of acting like they give a shit 1967 01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:34.119 about games and then never falling through with it ever. Yeah, but now 1968 01:59:34.239 --> 01:59:36.720 that they're making an insane amount of money off this stuff on the app Store, 1969 01:59:36.800 --> 01:59:39.720 you would hope they would their policies. We I mean, they have 1970 01:59:39.760 --> 01:59:42.600 people in place that are like app approval teams and like, if you hear, 1971 01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:45.840 are the people you have to woo to get featured on the App Store 1972 01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:47.640 with your game. Here's the game of the week, and this like they're 1973 01:59:47.720 --> 01:59:53.279 changing the way that they curate the app Store to be more focused on like 1974 01:59:53.439 --> 01:59:56.039 quality or they had that list while back they're like, here are games you 1975 01:59:56.239 --> 02:00:00.520 that with no DLC or here like it was a list of a here games 1976 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:02.920 you pay to play, You pay once, and then you're done. Like 1977 02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:06.960 they're they're doing so many different things around how they surface games on the app 1978 02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:12.199 Store. They're like, there are people at levels of Apple that are incredibly 1979 02:00:12.359 --> 02:00:17.520 focused on games. Their entire job is around games on Apple devices, but 1980 02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:20.439 at like some higher level, like when it comes to this stuff, like 1981 02:00:20.600 --> 02:00:25.239 they just don't give a fuck and they don't have to. It's just like, 1982 02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:27.359 you know, they have the install base, they're like whatever, games 1983 02:00:27.399 --> 02:00:29.760 all come to them and they'll make their money. You're like, like you 1984 02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:34.119 hear about them flirting with controllers for years now. I've been people like, 1985 02:00:34.159 --> 02:00:38.079 oh, yeah, I saw I saw the prototype right Apple controller. Right, 1986 02:00:38.119 --> 02:00:40.159 I saw the controller they're working on. It's going to change everything. 1987 02:00:40.920 --> 02:00:44.960 It's never gonna come out because Apple doesn't give a fuck, and they'll prototype 1988 02:00:44.960 --> 02:00:47.640 shit and then someone will walk in and go like, no, we're gonna 1989 02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:53.520 go watch uh instead of this stupid thing that you're making. This is trash. 1990 02:00:53.640 --> 02:00:57.159 Fuck you, And then the controller goes away, I guess for another 1991 02:00:57.239 --> 02:01:00.479 year or whatever it's or maybe they're just iterating on the contro or forever and 1992 02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:04.079 it'll actually come out and yay, But yeah, it's it's weird. They 1993 02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:09.079 just they don't care. That seems like it's one of those things where it's 1994 02:01:09.119 --> 02:01:14.439 just like it's so tone deaf. Yeah, totally just to go like, 1995 02:01:14.600 --> 02:01:16.840 well take them all out, or it's just it's something that like it seems 1996 02:01:16.840 --> 02:01:20.079 like they don't care to the extent that they would rather avoid any whiff of 1997 02:01:20.159 --> 02:01:24.039 bad press exactly. Yeah, and actually like fucking wipe it out. We 1998 02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:27.640 don't care enough about it to actually work with these people to find a common 1999 02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:30.920 ground or establish new parameters for games on this store. It's just like, 2000 02:01:30.000 --> 02:01:33.760 yeah, fucking Yanka Mook cares. Yep, but that sucks. They'll edit 2001 02:01:33.840 --> 02:01:39.199 it out. It sucks. It keeps happening, and Apple definitely does what 2002 02:01:39.279 --> 02:01:42.199 Apple wants, So who knows if it'll get better. It would be nice. 2003 02:01:42.279 --> 02:01:45.199 Maybe Apple really likes the Confederate flag and they don't like seeing it. 2004 02:01:45.359 --> 02:01:49.319 Sully, I'm just gonna pick it out there. I didn't want to say 2005 02:01:49.319 --> 02:01:53.079 anything. They don't like it. When the North Winds. What you're saying, 2006 02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:58.199 Andy Q's out there watching Dukes of Hazard repeats. They're belly aching about 2007 02:01:58.199 --> 02:02:00.640 the War of Northern Aggression. Do you think that they stopped playing Dukes of 2008 02:02:00.680 --> 02:02:04.720 Hazard reruns in our lobby? Oh? Oh god, they Yeah, that's 2009 02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:09.640 right. Just wait, oh really still I haven't seen it in a few 2010 02:02:09.680 --> 02:02:11.880 months. But yeah, we have a giant screen in the lobby that plays 2011 02:02:11.880 --> 02:02:15.399 all kinds of random sometimes up there. Sometimes it's been Twin Peaks at random. 2012 02:02:15.600 --> 02:02:19.640 Yeah, sometimes it's Letterman. Sometimes it's uh, I've seen Original Star 2013 02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:21.680 Trek on there. Yeah, but yes, it was. There was a 2014 02:02:21.720 --> 02:02:25.439 lot of Dukes of Hazzard for a little while there, Yeah, and I 2015 02:02:25.479 --> 02:02:28.800 guess they have not taken them. But but to the point, you know, 2016 02:02:28.880 --> 02:02:30.079 a lot of people were pointing out that there's a bunch of stuff on 2017 02:02:30.239 --> 02:02:32.800 like the iTunes store. You know, there are movies there, there's music. 2018 02:02:33.600 --> 02:02:35.920 Yeah, I'm sure you can find some music that is very in favor 2019 02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:39.960 of that flat right, that is like politically like yeah, man, this 2020 02:02:40.079 --> 02:02:43.119 flag rips and you know plenty of movies that have the imagery of that nature. 2021 02:02:43.279 --> 02:02:45.520 Yeah, and they just they've just got a huge double standard between games 2022 02:02:45.560 --> 02:02:48.479 and all their forms of media and their service. Yeah, it is an 2023 02:02:48.960 --> 02:02:55.439 It is a non nuanced, relatively uncultured stance on video games. Why don't 2024 02:02:55.479 --> 02:03:00.359 they like rednecks? I don't understand. Yeah, that's that's what they said 2025 02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:04.560 in the meeting. Yeah, all right, I guess this will be our 2026 02:03:04.640 --> 02:03:08.640 last story. Let's see what you got. Oh wait, no, there's 2027 02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:12.680 another story. There's another very important story after it's OK, but we'll get 2028 02:03:12.720 --> 02:03:17.560 to that. Noelan North was at a conference. Talk most your cells while 2029 02:03:17.560 --> 02:03:19.920 I scanned the story to try to remember where he was. Metro Con. 2030 02:03:20.159 --> 02:03:27.399 Yeah, he did a Q and A at metro Con. You're Metro twenty 2031 02:03:27.479 --> 02:03:30.000 thirty three, fantast you're asking you're asking questions that. Yeah, Noel North 2032 02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:34.560 is a huge Metro twenty three three. Every year. I've heard some stories. 2033 02:03:35.760 --> 02:03:41.319 Uh hey, it's an anime convention. Oh yeah, in Florida, 2034 02:03:41.479 --> 02:03:45.359 and Dan goes every year. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Uh. 2035 02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:49.159 Noel North gave this Q and A at metro Con and spoke pretty candidly 2036 02:03:49.239 --> 02:03:54.840 about Uncharted four. Okay, and also the new Star Wars game that Amy 2037 02:03:54.920 --> 02:03:59.880 Hinnig is doing. But I will just read you the fairly lengthy quote about 2038 02:04:00.119 --> 02:04:03.439 Charted For first, somebody asked him about like because you remember, you know, 2039 02:04:03.479 --> 02:04:05.880 the story got out a while back, like when she left Naughty Dog 2040 02:04:05.920 --> 02:04:10.039 and some other people left with her, and then a voice actor got out 2041 02:04:10.039 --> 02:04:13.760 there saying like yeah, they like I'm not in the game anymore and stuff 2042 02:04:13.800 --> 02:04:16.359 like that, Like there was a bunch of stuff around what was happening with 2043 02:04:16.439 --> 02:04:20.600 that game during that departure. Here's what Milla North said. We had shot 2044 02:04:20.640 --> 02:04:24.239 eight months of her story and it was all thrown away. The last of 2045 02:04:24.319 --> 02:04:27.079 us guys came in, and you have to understand new producers, new people, 2046 02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:29.880 they want to do it. I don't know what happened exactly. Amy 2047 02:04:29.960 --> 02:04:32.039 is still a very dear friend of mine and she's brilliant, But the last 2048 02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:34.520 of us guys were the next team there, so they took over and they 2049 02:04:34.560 --> 02:04:39.039 just wanted their own flavor. They got rid of some of the other people 2050 02:04:39.079 --> 02:04:43.159 that were involved and just redid their thing. I mean that happens a lot 2051 02:04:43.199 --> 02:04:45.760 in movie. Yeah, sure, totally, Like that's not insanely out of 2052 02:04:45.800 --> 02:04:49.239 the ordinary, for you know, the new head creative people come in. 2053 02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:50.920 Yeah, that's that's a lot of work. But I mean you know, 2054 02:04:51.079 --> 02:04:56.680 like the kind of the the best developers are very forthcoming about the facts that 2055 02:04:56.840 --> 02:04:59.319 they are willing to flush a bunch of work, you know, if they're 2056 02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:01.159 not happy with it or whatever. Although in this case, who knows if 2057 02:05:01.159 --> 02:05:04.960 it was they weren't happy with This sounds like changing of the guard for you 2058 02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:10.000 know that they're gonna want to execute on their vision for the game, right, 2059 02:05:10.359 --> 02:05:13.720 which is weird. I mean like she worked on all of the previous 2060 02:05:13.960 --> 02:05:17.560 charges yes, totally pretty successful games. Kind of kind of her series to 2061 02:05:17.600 --> 02:05:20.199 some extent, I guess, yeah, but a lot of people associated it 2062 02:05:20.239 --> 02:05:26.920 with her, I should say. Yeah. At the same time, Uh, 2063 02:05:27.600 --> 02:05:30.239 if they really have to make a fourth Uncharted game, I'm kind of 2064 02:05:30.399 --> 02:05:33.720 excited about, like, notwithstanding whatever went on with her leaving the company and 2065 02:05:33.840 --> 02:05:36.439 you know, yeah, yeah, that work being gone, Like, I'm 2066 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:42.159 kind of excited about the idea of their working on something that is not a 2067 02:05:42.239 --> 02:05:45.000 fucking yes, fourth uncharged. I would rather have. It's kind of the 2068 02:05:45.039 --> 02:05:46.119 same thing with like Kojima and Metal Gear. You know, it's like I 2069 02:05:46.159 --> 02:05:49.479 would rather have the person who's done the thing forever go do something original, 2070 02:05:49.920 --> 02:05:53.760 and I would rather have if there's gonna be more of the thing. Have 2071 02:05:53.960 --> 02:05:56.439 somebody come in and do, like, like offer a new take on it, 2072 02:05:56.520 --> 02:05:59.119 you know, interesting, So why are you making that face you want 2073 02:05:59.159 --> 02:06:01.159 someone other metal Gear? No, I think metal Gears should stop entirely. 2074 02:06:01.159 --> 02:06:03.319 I'm saying, oh, if there has to be more of the thing, 2075 02:06:04.680 --> 02:06:08.920 So you're saying that, only do more metal Gear if it was kaJama, 2076 02:06:09.520 --> 02:06:12.439 No, I'm opposite. No, Like, just like I'm saying with Uncharted, 2077 02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:15.800 metal Gear Rising is one of the best. Yeah, metal Gear games, 2078 02:06:15.800 --> 02:06:18.039 like Metal Gear Rising is is a great example of like a somebody else's 2079 02:06:18.159 --> 02:06:21.239 creative take on this bizarre universe that he made. I think we differ on 2080 02:06:21.319 --> 02:06:27.720 this point. Metal Rising is all right, I think you're subscribing a little 2081 02:06:27.760 --> 02:06:33.560 too closely to the one person's vision that to be To be fair, like, 2082 02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:38.840 nobody has advanced the otour theory of video games more than Coinma. Yeah. 2083 02:06:39.000 --> 02:06:42.720 Yeah, but the idea that like all creativity flows from this one mind. 2084 02:06:42.840 --> 02:06:45.760 But of course he would do well, yeah, he's great. There's 2085 02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:49.960 that Zelda moon man guy that collaps with it seem pretty cool. Yeah. 2086 02:06:50.079 --> 02:06:53.079 Yeah. Anyway, in this case, like, yeah, you know, 2087 02:06:53.159 --> 02:06:58.680 if there's going to be more Uncharted I'm happy that somebody else's is maybe taking 2088 02:06:58.720 --> 02:07:00.479 it in a slightly different direction. Hey, it worked great for that Vita 2089 02:07:00.560 --> 02:07:06.399 game that Bend did. Who knows how much creative freedom they even had or 2090 02:07:06.640 --> 02:07:12.479 whatever, but yeah, you know, so he's kind of confirming all the 2091 02:07:12.479 --> 02:07:15.000 stuff that was rumored last year or whatever that was. Do you think she 2092 02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:17.479 had like an emotional mistake in it? It's like, I really want to 2093 02:07:17.560 --> 02:07:23.279 wrap this up, like I don't know the culmination of what this blockbuster storyline 2094 02:07:23.319 --> 02:07:25.319 that I've been working on. Well, that's the weird thing about a chart 2095 02:07:25.319 --> 02:07:28.560 at four, because three felt very much like the end of that franchise, 2096 02:07:28.760 --> 02:07:30.960 like they put a tidy little bow on the characters at the end of that. 2097 02:07:32.840 --> 02:07:39.399 However, interesting you bring that up because Noel North also spoke a little 2098 02:07:39.399 --> 02:07:41.880 bit about what she's doing with Visceral Adia now, because you know, we 2099 02:07:42.039 --> 02:07:45.960 knew that she was working on a Star Wars game there. He says, 2100 02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:47.840 Amy is still a very dear friend of mine. She's brilliant. She's gone 2101 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:51.560 to EA and is going to reboot a brand new Star Wars franchise in the 2102 02:07:51.640 --> 02:07:55.800 style of Uncharted, and I happen to know a lot about it. And 2103 02:07:55.800 --> 02:07:59.199 it's gonna be awesome. So could he be going off of like, well, 2104 02:07:59.239 --> 02:08:01.279 I guess she was never in all the thirteen thirteen No, And I 2105 02:08:01.319 --> 02:08:05.000 mean I think they came out and said she's not just working on thirteen thirteen, 2106 02:08:05.920 --> 02:08:09.760 but I mean looked like Uncharted like Wars. Would EA want to work 2107 02:08:09.840 --> 02:08:13.239 on a real engine like three game or would they want to work in frost 2108 02:08:13.319 --> 02:08:16.439 Bite. I'm sure that rolls. This will risk roll. Yeah, it's 2109 02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:20.600 it doesn't make sense for thirteen thirteen to be alive, like right, right, 2110 02:08:20.720 --> 02:08:24.760 Things about that game weren't unique, you know, it was a cool 2111 02:08:24.800 --> 02:08:26.000 looking Star Wars game, which was unique at the time. But like, 2112 02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:30.720 if you're gonna say, like, hey, you guys that just came off 2113 02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:33.119 of making a bunch of like third person action adventure games, why don't you 2114 02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:37.880 make one that Star Wars like, You don't go pull in like this other 2115 02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:43.760 like other teams work and start from there, you start from scratch. It 2116 02:08:43.800 --> 02:08:46.720 seems like they wanted to make a game like that though, because thirteen thirteen 2117 02:08:46.760 --> 02:08:50.640 and the people that saw that resided it looked kind of it was as it 2118 02:08:50.720 --> 02:08:52.279 was. It was a cover shooter like Uncharted is, you know, it's 2119 02:08:52.600 --> 02:08:58.840 it's yeah. But plus like that's the angle Disney's taken with all the Star 2120 02:08:58.840 --> 02:09:01.239 Wars stuff since they took over. You know, it's they're they're very much 2121 02:09:01.359 --> 02:09:03.319 like forget those prequels you hated, Remember the thing you liked when you were 2122 02:09:03.399 --> 02:09:09.399 kids, like the swashbuckling fun you know serious, that's that's one uncharted and 2123 02:09:09.479 --> 02:09:13.039 that is uncharted. Yea, it swashes it buckled, Yes, totally. 2124 02:09:13.159 --> 02:09:16.000 So the idea that she's making something similar like that in the Star Wars universe 2125 02:09:16.119 --> 02:09:22.800 not hard to believe at all. So Force on Lash three Nolan North is 2126 02:09:22.920 --> 02:09:28.119 Han solo in ye yes, that could work. Sure, I'd accept that. 2127 02:09:30.840 --> 02:09:33.159 Who knows when we'll find out what that is to your next three? 2128 02:09:33.239 --> 02:09:37.119 Next three? Yeah, you're probably aren't made me in the next Star Wars 2129 02:09:37.159 --> 02:09:43.560 celebration. Yeah yeah, something like that. Uh. Lastly, most important 2130 02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:48.000 news of the week Drive Club PlayStation plus stititions out. Wait no, they 2131 02:09:48.039 --> 02:09:50.039 took it down. No, it's back up. They put it back. 2132 02:09:50.119 --> 02:09:52.319 Yes, it came out, it came down, and then it went back 2133 02:09:52.399 --> 02:09:54.520 up. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how long it was 2134 02:09:54.560 --> 02:09:56.600 down for. What the fuck happened there? I think they said something about 2135 02:09:56.920 --> 02:10:01.720 capacity, the same thing they said original, like, hey, we underestimated 2136 02:10:01.760 --> 02:10:07.720 it. And I think they did some kind of stage roll out where certain 2137 02:10:07.800 --> 02:10:11.199 territories were getting it at different times to kind of ease the low load. 2138 02:10:13.520 --> 02:10:18.199 I could see that, you know, Sony can finally close this or theoretically 2139 02:10:18.800 --> 02:10:22.000 so it was this dark chapter in their history and it under the rugs to 2140 02:10:22.039 --> 02:10:24.760 move on. Just you know, I'd say they gave it the appropriate amount 2141 02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:26.960 of fanfare. They announced it in a very a very matter of fact way. 2142 02:10:28.399 --> 02:10:31.399 Yeah, I'm just put it out and moved on. I'm surprised they 2143 02:10:31.439 --> 02:10:33.800 went into E three without having it done that. The timing of the release 2144 02:10:33.880 --> 02:10:37.359 makes me think that this was originally supposed to have happened ahead of E three 2145 02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:41.159 to get it off the books. I would totally believe that. I was 2146 02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:43.399 always kind of holding out hope that it was going to be like retooled for 2147 02:10:43.560 --> 02:10:48.239 Morpheus or something like that. I got pulled and it's like, fucking all 2148 02:10:48.279 --> 02:10:52.439 right, we're starting with you know, from scratch, scratched. But just 2149 02:10:52.560 --> 02:10:56.079 like there as many problems as they had getting the game work at all. 2150 02:10:56.520 --> 02:10:58.560 Yeah, Like it's at some point like that name is associated with some dark 2151 02:10:58.600 --> 02:11:03.600 stuff that don't just fulfill your obligation and then just get it. Get it 2152 02:11:03.640 --> 02:11:07.279 out of the way, so you can like announce Grant Tourisma seven with clear 2153 02:11:07.319 --> 02:11:13.960 conscience. I guess Granturisma Sport Drive Club Drive Club. It's out now, 2154 02:11:15.039 --> 02:11:16.560 wayable. I don't know. If you have PlayStation Plus, you can play 2155 02:11:16.600 --> 02:11:20.720 for free a chunk of it. It's it's not actually the single player progression 2156 02:11:22.479 --> 02:11:26.640 in full Yeah, it's what is. It's like one location you can get 2157 02:11:26.680 --> 02:11:30.079 a Platinum trophy out of it, which seemed to be the sticking point for 2158 02:11:30.119 --> 02:11:31.960 a lot of people. With this free version of the game. You can 2159 02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:35.600 get platinum, so like even when it launched on disc, it was like 2160 02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:41.239 it had a separate trophies set of trophies associated with its, like single player 2161 02:11:41.319 --> 02:11:46.159 progression that were exclusive to the full paid version of the game. It is 2162 02:11:46.199 --> 02:11:50.279 like DLCO. They'll break out raphy into packs like it came with a pack. 2163 02:11:52.279 --> 02:11:54.720 That's fucking crazy. But they will happily upsell you on the full version 2164 02:11:54.720 --> 02:11:58.439 of the game if you get this thing they've they've been selling to like for 2165 02:11:58.520 --> 02:12:01.760 PlayStation Plus members, I think you've been able to buy that primate, like 2166 02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:07.720 that that core version of it for like twenty five bucks forever weird, weird. 2167 02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:13.119 I would not recommend it. Our long national nightmare is over. Finally 2168 02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:20.680 you can play drive club emails. Yeah, okastagiantball dot com. Let's read 2169 02:12:20.680 --> 02:12:24.039 a few emails and then I don't know if you can blow your nose again. 2170 02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:30.359 Yeah, it's gonna be great. Mark from Washington wants to know, 2171 02:12:30.560 --> 02:12:35.399 Jeff, which was worse. I just watched the hot pepper gaming segment that 2172 02:12:35.479 --> 02:12:37.319 you did. What was worse? The hot pepper or the yellow Russian? 2173 02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:41.600 Did the pepper make you feel sick like the nacho cheese? Also? Do 2174 02:12:41.640 --> 02:12:43.479 you know what type of pepper it was? Thanks for all you do. 2175 02:12:43.039 --> 02:12:46.359 It was a hob hob an arrow narrow, which it was not, you 2176 02:12:46.439 --> 02:12:48.640 know, not the hottest pepper. But I don't eat some spicy food, 2177 02:12:48.680 --> 02:12:52.520 so habanero is pretty. It was hot enough, like not pleasant hot. 2178 02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:58.159 Yeah you just eat The yellow Russian was like unpleasant but not like like whatever. 2179 02:12:58.239 --> 02:13:03.279 I guess you pain. I could drink ten of those. You didn't 2180 02:13:03.279 --> 02:13:07.680 feel ill? No, some people seem to be feeling weird. I didn't 2181 02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:13.880 feel great afterwards, but you know whatever, But yeah, I would I 2182 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:20.039 would rather drink ten of those than really than I'm not going to But like 2183 02:13:20.239 --> 02:13:22.439 I'm saying, like put me to a choice, Like that's you adn't feeling 2184 02:13:22.439 --> 02:13:26.359 pretty confident because you had done this before. So yeah, I did untested 2185 02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:31.119 and tested twenty four hours stream the October Cat a couple of years ago. 2186 02:13:31.159 --> 02:13:35.479 I ate with this exact type of pepper. Was there, what was the 2187 02:13:35.479 --> 02:13:37.359 like, what was the angle? There? Was it late at night and 2188 02:13:37.399 --> 02:13:39.079 it's like, all right, let's use this to wake ourselves up. I 2189 02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:41.479 think that's what they were doing it. And then I was there in the 2190 02:13:41.520 --> 02:13:46.880 morning and I said, like, art right, okay, and yeah, 2191 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:50.600 so so I did that with the kind of funny crew Greg Miller and such 2192 02:13:50.640 --> 02:13:54.680 and Vernon from Hopefy Game and yeah. So the thing I forgot from the 2193 02:13:54.760 --> 02:13:58.600 last time I did it is that as soon as I put that thing in 2194 02:13:58.680 --> 02:14:01.760 my mouth, my throat complately closed up. It was like nope, it 2195 02:14:01.840 --> 02:14:03.720 was just like it wanted no part of this. It was just like reject, 2196 02:14:03.840 --> 02:14:09.000 no abort, no stop. So I could not swallow. Yeah, 2197 02:14:09.319 --> 02:14:13.359 so I had to sit there and chew that thing up for a very long 2198 02:14:13.479 --> 02:14:16.760 time and continue to talk and and like I didn't start talking at that point. 2199 02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:20.560 It's kind of like had to at least start to get going. And 2200 02:14:20.600 --> 02:14:22.800 then I realized, like it like I had this feeling like this is a 2201 02:14:22.840 --> 02:14:26.199 lot of dead air. I should probably start talking, and you know kind 2202 02:14:26.239 --> 02:14:28.760 of went from there. But yeah, so I kind of had to break 2203 02:14:28.800 --> 02:14:33.159 it down into such tiny chunks that it could even fit through my closed throat 2204 02:14:33.239 --> 02:14:39.880 full, which is which means it's spending even oh god. And uh yeah, 2205 02:14:39.960 --> 02:14:41.840 once I started getting it down, like it kind of you know, 2206 02:14:41.119 --> 02:14:43.920 relaxed a little bit and I was able to swallow it, and you know, 2207 02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:48.199 I drank like five cups of milk. Took some time. Oh they 2208 02:14:48.279 --> 02:14:52.239 give you stuff there, Okay, they're not reasonable. Lets you ease the 2209 02:14:52.279 --> 02:14:54.239 pain. So yeah, when I walked away from that set, I was 2210 02:14:54.279 --> 02:14:56.079 fine. Like I would burp occasionally and that would be unpleasant, but that 2211 02:14:56.119 --> 02:14:58.840 was the last of it. That was kind of funny. I was just 2212 02:15:00.039 --> 02:15:03.520 I just happened to be walking by at that exact moment, and yeah, 2213 02:15:03.520 --> 02:15:05.760 I started filming it on my phone. Was yeah, yeah, I just 2214 02:15:05.800 --> 02:15:11.039 did one with the shoe he yashida. I saw that being Yeah, is 2215 02:15:11.079 --> 02:15:15.800 it always op neuro I wonder then they go hotter. I think they themselves 2216 02:15:15.920 --> 02:15:20.479 go way ghost peppers and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2217 02:15:20.000 --> 02:15:22.920 I feel like, uh, I feel like every second, third month, 2218 02:15:24.079 --> 02:15:26.039 there's a new hottest pepper in the world, seems like it. Like I 2219 02:15:26.199 --> 02:15:30.560 feel like there's always somebody on YouTube saying like this is actually the hottest pepper 2220 02:15:30.600 --> 02:15:31.960 in the world, and then they eat it and they have the rating, 2221 02:15:33.079 --> 02:15:37.920 like how many like scovels. Scovels is the actual is the actual stuff that 2222 02:15:39.079 --> 02:15:41.600 is the hot? But scovill is the is the scale? U Yep, 2223 02:15:41.760 --> 02:15:46.840 it's the guy named that for him. That's because he's so hot. Uh 2224 02:15:48.840 --> 02:15:54.439 yeah, Boots, Julia, what is the last pepper I heard as the 2225 02:15:54.479 --> 02:15:56.960 hottest pepper in the world. Yeah, I don't know if that's actually still 2226 02:15:58.000 --> 02:16:00.880 true or not. Somebody out there's got to be like eating hotter and hotter 2227 02:16:00.920 --> 02:16:05.640 peppers, right, Oh sure, yeah. Let's just get some pure capsis 2228 02:16:05.720 --> 02:16:13.159 some crystals in here, smoke them? What smoking if you got him? 2229 02:16:13.279 --> 02:16:18.680 Yea? All right? Uh, let's move on to another email. What 2230 02:16:18.760 --> 02:16:24.840 do you say? Bobby from Brooklyn sent an email, Hello, Horizon, 2231 02:16:24.960 --> 02:16:28.800 sounds awesome. I love the gorilla is trying something completely new, and they 2232 02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:33.520 struck gold with their buzzword post post apocalyptic. But someday that setting will be 2233 02:16:33.639 --> 02:16:37.040 as used and abused as World War Two? So how long before we see 2234 02:16:37.079 --> 02:16:39.159 the first post post post apocalyptic game? And what will it'll look like? 2235 02:16:39.319 --> 02:16:41.639 You go back to World War two, that'll be that'll be the one that 2236 02:16:41.719 --> 02:16:46.520 has like it'll be civilized. Okay, it'll be. So what wait, 2237 02:16:46.559 --> 02:16:48.120 what are we saying? Post post apocalyptic is like kind of a like a 2238 02:16:48.399 --> 02:16:52.040 rag tag yeah, like stuff kind of getting back together. It's still a 2239 02:16:52.040 --> 02:16:54.079 little tribal, okay, but you know, like a government maybe have some 2240 02:16:54.239 --> 02:16:58.159 sort Yeah, it's starting to happen, but not everybody is abiding by that 2241 02:16:58.200 --> 02:17:01.319 government. Still rowdy here. As you go past that, then it's a 2242 02:17:01.559 --> 02:17:07.399 party. Yeah, it's still the fucking the matrix, the outside of the 2243 02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:11.000 matrix, gotcha, scrappy? Yeah? All right, So post post post 2244 02:17:11.040 --> 02:17:16.280 apocalyptic is basically pre apocalyptic. It's right. It is the rise of it 2245 02:17:16.440 --> 02:17:20.680 is. It is just new medieval, got it? Okay, it's a 2246 02:17:20.680 --> 02:17:24.040 good anthology. Is magic. It's a good serious answer. It's more than 2247 02:17:24.120 --> 02:17:31.559 expected, all right. Brent sends an email about Sony's first party. Sony's 2248 02:17:31.559 --> 02:17:35.600 first party line up on PS four has been horrendous. But you guys have 2249 02:17:35.719 --> 02:17:39.399 to remember that most people have one console and no beefy gaming PC. For 2250 02:17:39.440 --> 02:17:43.280 the middle ground game players to buy three six games a year. Games that 2251 02:17:43.319 --> 02:17:46.479 are PS four and PC might as well be PS four exclusive, while APS 2252 02:17:46.520 --> 02:17:50.159 four slash PC third party game might not count much in Sony's favor when having 2253 02:17:50.200 --> 02:17:56.239 a message board list war it has swayed friends of mine when deciding between consoles. 2254 02:17:56.479 --> 02:17:58.559 Sure, yeah, I mean you should look at the games available on 2255 02:17:58.600 --> 02:18:01.479 a console before you buy a console, totally, absolutely, Yeah, sure, 2256 02:18:01.559 --> 02:18:03.559 but you know, I mean that's obviously a fair point that you know, 2257 02:18:03.639 --> 02:18:07.159 if you only want or can only have a console. It's also how 2258 02:18:07.200 --> 02:18:13.440 many games are PS four and PC exclusive? One Street Fighter? Yeah? 2259 02:18:13.159 --> 02:18:16.600 They small handful. I mean, I don't know for for for me at 2260 02:18:16.680 --> 02:18:20.799 least, when I complain about Sony not having any good exclusive games, it's 2261 02:18:20.920 --> 02:18:24.440 like I'm sitting here looking at them with this massive tail wind that they have, 2262 02:18:24.600 --> 02:18:26.120 you know, like this huge head start. Yeah, like this massive 2263 02:18:26.120 --> 02:18:30.079 installed base that they building, like not doing anything. They don't have good 2264 02:18:30.280 --> 02:18:33.840 first party games. It's it's it's less about the quality of those individual games 2265 02:18:33.879 --> 02:18:37.639 and more about kind of their place in these sales pantheon, right of just 2266 02:18:37.799 --> 02:18:41.959 like they're not, like I charted it is not the same as some of 2267 02:18:43.000 --> 02:18:46.479 those Microsoft games, right in terms of sales, Like you know, God 2268 02:18:46.520 --> 02:18:52.280 of Wars not has not done it. They're either So it's has nothing to 2269 02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:54.840 do with the quality of those games, or maybe it does because if they 2270 02:18:54.879 --> 02:18:56.200 were better games, maybe they would sell more or whatever it is. But 2271 02:18:56.319 --> 02:19:01.200 you know, like in the PS three era, games were not one to 2272 02:19:01.319 --> 02:19:03.879 one, they did not match up. Sure, but yeah, that's just 2273 02:19:03.959 --> 02:19:07.479 you know, they have an opportunity to do some pretty cool stuff. I 2274 02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:09.799 like Good Bourne is a good example of them actually doing something super cool. 2275 02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:11.959 Yeah, yeah, I just want a lot more of that. But it's 2276 02:19:13.000 --> 02:19:16.440 like you here leading console platforms, you see these different stories about like you 2277 02:19:16.520 --> 02:19:18.239 know, various third party games that those like we're trying to treat this like 2278 02:19:18.280 --> 02:19:20.639 a first party games, Like yeah, because you don't have any fucking first 2279 02:19:20.680 --> 02:19:24.920 party games to treat like first party games, right, yeah, yeah, 2280 02:19:26.159 --> 02:19:31.360 silly agreed. Ah man, I pulled a good email that PlayStation view and 2281 02:19:31.399 --> 02:19:37.159 I don't think I can read it though, Okay, uh yeah, well 2282 02:19:37.200 --> 02:19:39.559 you pretty much covered everything did we talk about how it stutters for me? 2283 02:19:39.680 --> 02:19:43.879 Although freaking time really Yeah, like every few minutes. It's like a half 2284 02:19:43.920 --> 02:19:50.719 second stutter, which is tolerable watching live stuff for watching DVR watching live stuff. 2285 02:19:50.920 --> 02:19:52.399 Yeah, and I know you weren't having an issue with the DVR stuff. 2286 02:19:52.479 --> 02:19:54.319 Yeah. And I tried to watch some live stuff since and I haven't 2287 02:19:54.360 --> 02:19:58.879 really had any issues there. It was a near constant thing, like any 2288 02:19:58.959 --> 02:20:01.079 day that I would watch it, it would just yeah, it would stutter 2289 02:20:01.159 --> 02:20:03.280 for just a second, but then after a while it would catch up, 2290 02:20:03.440 --> 02:20:07.360 so we'd like jump forward like two three seconds, which was really off putting, 2291 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:11.200 But it was like any channel that I'd try. And I don't know 2292 02:20:11.520 --> 02:20:16.360 that's a shape. There were some performance issues with boots still still only available 2293 02:20:16.399 --> 02:20:18.200 a handful of areas. Maybe they're treating it like a beta, but I 2294 02:20:18.399 --> 02:20:22.520 yeah, I don't know. I have not had those issues. Sorry, 2295 02:20:22.600 --> 02:20:28.559 Kid from Santa Rosa, your email got cannibalized earlier in the show. Uh, 2296 02:20:28.120 --> 02:20:33.879 Justin from Saratoga Springs, New York, Dan, this is another another 2297 02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:37.520 question about first party stuff ish well kind of exclusive games. Let's say, 2298 02:20:39.440 --> 02:20:41.920 No Man Sky seems like exactly what I want from game and hearing all of 2299 02:20:41.920 --> 02:20:46.399 your perceptions and hopes have just has just solidified that problem is I am an 2300 02:20:46.520 --> 02:20:50.159 Xbox gamer. I don't have an issue with PlayStation. I just can't see 2301 02:20:50.280 --> 02:20:54.719 having I can't see having two consoles, much less selling my wife the idea. 2302 02:20:54.840 --> 02:20:58.719 Do you think this game will ever be released on Xbox? I don't 2303 02:20:58.760 --> 02:21:01.479 know what the nature of the deal is. I think so, but I 2304 02:21:01.600 --> 02:21:05.639 don't actually, if I had to pick, I would agree with you and 2305 02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:07.719 say yeah, eventually, but who knows what the gap will be. I 2306 02:21:07.760 --> 02:21:11.000 mean, they did announce it was coming to PC. It's got a Steam 2307 02:21:11.040 --> 02:21:15.559 page up now, yea. But eventually the weird stuff with Joe Danger where 2308 02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:20.159 that started as a originally it was like Sony turned it down, Like was 2309 02:21:20.799 --> 02:21:24.159 the case where like their notes were like what if it was a monkey? 2310 02:21:24.159 --> 02:21:26.680 I don't remember that. That was where there was we were talking to EA 2311 02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:31.440 ever some publisher. I forget what the situation was. But what if it 2312 02:21:31.600 --> 02:21:33.000 was a monkey? I mean, so they had they added I would have 2313 02:21:33.520 --> 02:21:37.319 some what if it was? Was that just like an inside joke? I 2314 02:21:37.319 --> 02:21:39.399 think they were just like a fuck you, that's pretty good. I don't 2315 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:41.959 actually know, No, I think it was PlayStation exclusive and then they did 2316 02:21:41.040 --> 02:21:45.239 special edition on three six. Well that's to get around, I mean, 2317 02:21:45.479 --> 02:21:48.680 like the requirements of the platform holders require, like you you know, you 2318 02:21:48.760 --> 02:21:52.040 can't come out later with the same games. They had to do the special 2319 02:21:52.239 --> 02:21:56.159 edition Stuffy and the two came out on both. That's the movie. Yeah, 2320 02:21:56.200 --> 02:21:58.159 I think that's right. I think they came out on both. So 2321 02:21:58.440 --> 02:22:05.440 every Man Sky come into one. Yeah, yeah, but I haven't heard 2322 02:22:05.520 --> 02:22:07.719 one way or the other, but I would assume that that thing would come 2323 02:22:07.719 --> 02:22:11.879 to the Xbox One eventually. Yeah, yeah, especially with you know, 2324 02:22:11.959 --> 02:22:15.799 it coming to Steam as well, So it's not But also like Sony has 2325 02:22:15.799 --> 02:22:18.760 made at such a cornerstone, and you know, like that is one of 2326 02:22:18.799 --> 02:22:20.120 the things where they've been quoted as saying they're going to treat it like a 2327 02:22:20.159 --> 02:22:26.319 first party game, like some some retail box art got out there that seems 2328 02:22:26.319 --> 02:22:31.200 to imply that maybe Sony would be publishing a retail version of the game. 2329 02:22:31.399 --> 02:22:35.840 Interesting, So at some point does it did it fall under the same umbrella 2330 02:22:35.920 --> 02:22:39.559 that Street Fight or five did where it's you know, not gonna actually come 2331 02:22:39.600 --> 02:22:41.520 back where they helped out enough, and yeah, like it has that it 2332 02:22:41.639 --> 02:22:46.680 just hasn't been clear to like how like what the business is behind that stuff, 2333 02:22:46.760 --> 02:22:50.760 So I don't know. Yeah, obviously, you know, the more 2334 02:22:50.000 --> 02:22:54.440 like marketing money that Sony dumps into with the logger. It will be if 2335 02:22:54.479 --> 02:22:58.559 you if you went back and watch the press conference, they were pretty decent 2336 02:22:58.639 --> 02:23:01.920 at saying like this is first PlayStation or this is exclusive to PlayStation. But 2337 02:23:01.959 --> 02:23:05.639 I think there's some of those segments here so about this game, so maybe 2338 02:23:05.719 --> 02:23:07.840 we just need to like go back and watch the intros to those segments to 2339 02:23:07.879 --> 02:23:11.319 try to piece it together from there. But I don't actually know. I 2340 02:23:11.360 --> 02:23:13.479 would expect it to eventually will come there, but I would expect that of 2341 02:23:13.479 --> 02:23:16.120 everything, though, I mean it's like hard to you know, it's like, 2342 02:23:16.200 --> 02:23:18.600 yeah, you know, even even stuff like look at it last generation, 2343 02:23:18.719 --> 02:23:20.440 like Limbo took like two or three years to come to PlayStation, but 2344 02:23:20.479 --> 02:23:22.840 it finally got there. But it seems like a lot of the language around 2345 02:23:22.879 --> 02:23:28.000 Rise of the tomb Rat has changed too, how so like recently, Yeah, 2346 02:23:28.159 --> 02:23:31.200 really like I feel less certain about that coming to PS four. Like 2347 02:23:31.239 --> 02:23:33.799 I would assume post Street Fight or five, they'd be like, shit, 2348 02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:41.000 lock it down interesting or something, But I don't know. Yeah, maybe 2349 02:23:41.159 --> 02:23:43.799 I don't know, it's it's It's. The hard thing about a lot of 2350 02:23:43.840 --> 02:23:46.440 this language is that you know, the business is ongoing, like they're going 2351 02:23:46.479 --> 02:23:50.120 to keep having conversations about where they want to bring it and where they don't 2352 02:23:50.120 --> 02:23:52.600 want to bring it, and and all that sort of stuff. So games 2353 02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:58.000 that could be exclusive one way could get locked up a different way six months 2354 02:23:58.079 --> 02:24:00.120 later, And you know, you kind of have to wait for a to 2355 02:24:00.239 --> 02:24:03.520 ship and wait for that business to actually be done before you can kind of 2356 02:24:03.559 --> 02:24:07.440 go like, Okay, what really happened here? Yes, what happened? 2357 02:24:09.440 --> 02:24:11.360 That one seems so big though, that Hello Games would probably want it out 2358 02:24:11.879 --> 02:24:16.639 everywhere they could get it. Absolutely. It seems like Sony would have to 2359 02:24:16.719 --> 02:24:20.239 come with a pretty appealing offer. I would say, yeah, stop you 2360 02:24:20.360 --> 02:24:22.520 from putting that out all over the place. Yeah, but Hello Games is 2361 02:24:22.520 --> 02:24:26.559 also like a you know, it's smallish team, Like you know Sony had 2362 02:24:26.600 --> 02:24:28.360 the money for it. Then you know the response they've been getting from this 2363 02:24:28.440 --> 02:24:31.399 game. You could see them saying like, Hey, we want to spend 2364 02:24:31.399 --> 02:24:35.639 a lot of money on this thing and keep it to ourselves. But I 2365 02:24:37.159 --> 02:24:39.239 have no idea. I have no idea what the game is about. So 2366 02:24:39.719 --> 02:24:43.479 you go to space. Oh you were here last week. I played it. 2367 02:24:43.559 --> 02:24:46.159 There's space cops. Oh yeah, I guess that I have played the 2368 02:24:46.200 --> 02:24:48.879 game. Yeah, I was gonna stick around and go to that with you. 2369 02:24:48.120 --> 02:24:50.799 God damn it, yeah you shoot. Do you know what it's about? 2370 02:24:50.840 --> 02:24:56.200 Now? Yeah? I have like a I have like the broadest idea 2371 02:24:56.280 --> 02:25:00.879 of what the kind of framework is in the progression, but a lot left 2372 02:25:00.920 --> 02:25:07.159 to learn. Hobby grade. Hobby grade. Yes, that's a call back 2373 02:25:07.239 --> 02:25:11.360 that I'm not remembering. I'm using Brandy. That's that's the battle born pitch. 2374 02:25:11.639 --> 02:25:15.559 Is it just a hobby grade hero shooter or whatever? The tweets that 2375 02:25:15.719 --> 02:25:20.079 like eighteen genres, what do you remember? This hobby grade vaguely starting to 2376 02:25:20.120 --> 02:25:24.079 come back. It's like it seemed like it was their way to say like 2377 02:25:24.200 --> 02:25:26.600 basically they were It felt like they were going out of their way to not 2378 02:25:26.760 --> 02:25:31.479 say the word moba what, but like and wanted to say that it was 2379 02:25:31.559 --> 02:25:35.959 like a well made thing. So it was hobby grade, okay, because 2380 02:25:35.200 --> 02:25:39.840 that's a grade used for models and stuff like that a lot like kids, 2381 02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:43.680 such, it's not for kids is to throw together, it's hobby grade. 2382 02:25:43.680 --> 02:25:46.600 This I got the tweet this is one tweet from Randy Pitchford. Battle Born 2383 02:25:46.799 --> 02:25:50.959 is FPS, hobby grade co op campaign, genre, blended, multimode, 2384 02:25:52.000 --> 02:25:56.360 competitive esports, meta growth, choice plus epic. Yes, I do remember 2385 02:25:56.440 --> 02:25:58.639 that. Now, how did he fit all that into one one tweet? 2386 02:26:00.840 --> 02:26:05.360 That is the most he's When I played it, it was a four player 2387 02:26:05.440 --> 02:26:11.159 co op shooter that seemed kind of boring the first draft of that tweet. 2388 02:26:11.159 --> 02:26:13.920 I don't I don't know enough of what that means to say yes or no. 2389 02:26:13.280 --> 02:26:22.000 Maybe has meta growth? Oh well, yeah, all right man? 2390 02:26:22.959 --> 02:26:26.600 Uh sorry, Mike from Philadelphia. We already talked about three sixty saves on 2391 02:26:26.760 --> 02:26:31.200 Xbox one. Uh sorry, Corey from Raleigh, North Carolina, we already 2392 02:26:31.200 --> 02:26:35.120 talked about nobody finishing the Witcher three yet, really just chewing up all these 2393 02:26:35.159 --> 02:26:41.200 emails as we go, We're predicting. Yeah, we'll be asking about it 2394 02:26:41.239 --> 02:26:46.319 and addressing it. It's true. Yeah, all right. Ross has a 2395 02:26:46.399 --> 02:26:50.399 very simple question, Yo, what's Jiantball's game of E three? I'm not 2396 02:26:50.319 --> 02:26:54.239 sure that we will commit to a single game as website, but yeah, 2397 02:26:54.280 --> 02:26:56.000 we fucking wales stream Fighter five? Everybody? All right? Is that yours? 2398 02:26:56.200 --> 02:26:58.360 Yeah? Everybody? I mean it kind of has to be everybody tell 2399 02:26:58.399 --> 02:27:03.319 me your favorite for me three Oculus Touch Toy Box, Yeah, Horizon, 2400 02:27:03.399 --> 02:27:09.479 Yeah, yeah, I might. I might go with Horizon three Yeah, 2401 02:27:09.559 --> 02:27:13.360 Mario Mario Maker definitely up there. I pulled this email. I should have 2402 02:27:13.360 --> 02:27:16.799 thought harder about my answer. Uh, what's everyone's thoughts on Cuphead? Real 2403 02:27:16.879 --> 02:27:20.040 quick looks great, looks. I played part the part where it's like mostly 2404 02:27:20.079 --> 02:27:26.399 boss fights kind of off putting to me, kind of Man, it's pretty, 2405 02:27:26.399 --> 02:27:28.559 it's pretty hard, but it feels good. It controls really well, 2406 02:27:28.639 --> 02:27:31.239 it's good, super tight controls. Yeah, it needs to Yeah, absolutely, 2407 02:27:35.040 --> 02:27:39.719 gosh, I don't know. Yeah, Horizon is definitely up there to 2408 02:27:39.760 --> 02:27:43.319 two Reborn Beta about that, okay, yeah, I came out to have 2409 02:27:43.440 --> 02:27:46.319 you played any of it yet? Yes, I know. I fixed my 2410 02:27:46.399 --> 02:27:50.639 PC and I downloaded the Beata yesterday and it's crash. He's fuck great, 2411 02:27:50.920 --> 02:27:52.920 crashing desk off like four times in the course of getting into and out of 2412 02:27:52.959 --> 02:27:54.680 one match. So, like, what do you have to buy out of 2413 02:27:54.719 --> 02:27:58.920 the store in a DODA match to unlock half five three? Every hat, 2414 02:28:00.399 --> 02:28:03.079 the the apply versa set. I'm at the end game store. I was 2415 02:28:03.120 --> 02:28:05.159 figured, you know, I just get like nine b kbs yeah, oh 2416 02:28:05.360 --> 02:28:07.959 right, yeah, okay, but activate them all at the same time. 2417 02:28:09.079 --> 02:28:11.000 Yeah. You can only hold six at once, though, so that's a 2418 02:28:11.000 --> 02:28:15.520 problem. Is there a crowbar in Doda? Like I said, is there 2419 02:28:15.520 --> 02:28:20.399 an item that's enough that's crowbar like enough they could skin hat somewhere? Uh, 2420 02:28:22.159 --> 02:28:26.879 trying to think who would be half life ready? I don't know, 2421 02:28:28.479 --> 02:28:31.000 give juggered out a crow bar, swords or something. I don't know. 2422 02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:37.200 They're very big on maintaining their fiction, sure. I mean like items that 2423 02:28:37.319 --> 02:28:41.799 break the like the you know, break the universe or whatever, have been 2424 02:28:41.959 --> 02:28:46.079 very unpopular with people. Yeah, don't funk with that. I feel like 2425 02:28:46.120 --> 02:28:48.520 I need to give you, give you guys a topic so I can go 2426 02:28:48.600 --> 02:28:52.399 blow by nose again. It's really unpleasant. Uh. Somebody mentioned BKB. 2427 02:28:52.719 --> 02:28:56.239 I'm hungry for burger king burger talk about yourselves, will be right back. 2428 02:28:56.680 --> 02:29:01.799 I chicken fries no, no, no, yeah, those over those. 2429 02:29:01.879 --> 02:29:05.159 I've been switched on to nuggets because you can get ten nuggets for like a 2430 02:29:05.200 --> 02:29:07.440 dollar forty nine. That's a good deal. Yeah, that's really good deal. 2431 02:29:07.600 --> 02:29:09.840 That's cheaper than they were doing that. McDonald's was doing the twenty for 2432 02:29:09.959 --> 02:29:15.879 five. Yeah, but I think the chicken McNugget is maybe a better chicken 2433 02:29:15.959 --> 02:29:18.200 cell. I'd probably prefer it. I don't know. I was getting a 2434 02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:22.399 much bigger like taste of oil from their nuggets. I went to Burger King 2435 02:29:22.440 --> 02:29:24.840 over the weekend. I don't really eat a lot of fast food anymore, 2436 02:29:24.639 --> 02:29:28.200 barely any I mean, like the last time was actually not that long ago. 2437 02:29:28.200 --> 02:29:31.280 I guess it was that Trips del Taco. Yeah, you've been like 2438 02:29:31.319 --> 02:29:33.760 bringing in food and stuff. Yeah, Jeff, I think you're losing weight, 2439 02:29:33.879 --> 02:29:35.600 you know, I don't know, it's you look pretty good. So 2440 02:29:35.760 --> 02:29:39.520 the scary part, uh, thank well, thank you. But the scary 2441 02:29:39.920 --> 02:29:43.639 part is that I had Burger King over the weekend and kind of hated it. 2442 02:29:43.840 --> 02:29:46.760 Yeah yeah, yeah if you yeah, get off that fast food kick 2443 02:29:46.799 --> 02:29:48.959 for for a little while. Yeah. It was just like this is not 2444 02:29:50.360 --> 02:29:54.399 this doesn't taste that great. The qual the quality of this is the burger 2445 02:29:54.520 --> 02:29:56.600 is kind of spongey in a way that I'm not okay with, Like this 2446 02:29:56.840 --> 02:30:03.280 is not a great meal, to be fair. But no, no, 2447 02:30:03.440 --> 02:30:05.479 see, I just did the thing. I just got back from Kansas City, 2448 02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:07.559 which means that every single night I think I've ever spent in Kansas City 2449 02:30:07.879 --> 02:30:11.760 as an adult at the bars with my dad has ended with us getting a 2450 02:30:11.879 --> 02:30:16.000 cab or a driver to take us through a taco bell and I get to 2451 02:30:16.040 --> 02:30:20.120 do this fun thing every time where my dad always like, I just quit 2452 02:30:20.200 --> 02:30:22.479 being weird about food. Just say four things, any four things on the 2453 02:30:22.520 --> 02:30:24.159 menu Italy be fine. But I have specific things I want and I just 2454 02:30:24.360 --> 02:30:28.159 keep naming things that I went over and over until he says stop because he's 2455 02:30:28.159 --> 02:30:31.840 always paying for it and drawing, shut up, here's money. And so 2456 02:30:31.920 --> 02:30:35.520 I'll just name like twelve things and he'll be drunk and then he realized that 2457 02:30:35.559 --> 02:30:37.600 what I'm doing. But I'll get those twelve things. Nice to wait, 2458 02:30:37.639 --> 02:30:39.959 like forty dollars for the taco bell for like two people. Yeah, that's 2459 02:30:39.000 --> 02:30:41.520 that's clean living. Yeah. Yeah. So that happened both nights that I 2460 02:30:41.600 --> 02:30:46.159 was in Kansas City and also the weekend. On Friday night, I acquired 2461 02:30:46.319 --> 02:30:50.479 my lady friend picked up, at my request, picked up a bottle of 2462 02:30:50.559 --> 02:30:58.159 Slur A Cane is one of it is one of the forties beverages. He 2463 02:30:58.280 --> 02:31:01.159 is also in the wine business, and I proceeded to drink that entire bottle 2464 02:31:01.200 --> 02:31:07.840 on Friday night. But it's at tone for the rest of the weekend in 2465 02:31:07.000 --> 02:31:09.520 terms of just like, yeah, I guess I could get a burger now 2466 02:31:11.200 --> 02:31:15.200 it's all gone to ship. I mean, yeah, slippery slop. What's 2467 02:31:15.239 --> 02:31:16.559 the liquid? That red color like I thought it was the color of the 2468 02:31:16.639 --> 02:31:20.159 bottle was the second one. Wow, And it's like, holy shit, 2469 02:31:20.239 --> 02:31:26.040 that was just a super red Liquor's good. It'll make your tongue red. 2470 02:31:26.159 --> 02:31:28.479 It's strong enough to start an engine. Maang. So it's like a hurricane, 2471 02:31:28.559 --> 02:31:33.120 but just like highly it's a red rummy kind of but this is like 2472 02:31:33.200 --> 02:31:37.399 a you know, pre mixed like malt, almost like a malt version. 2473 02:31:37.520 --> 02:31:41.680 It tasted like a sane eyed special brew sort of sure if you remember that, 2474 02:31:43.040 --> 02:31:46.680 like kind of a fruity malt liquor sort of vibe, not unlike a 2475 02:31:46.719 --> 02:31:52.000 wine cooler, not unlike a four loco, but not quite as it's eighteen 2476 02:31:52.079 --> 02:31:54.600 percent, So it was it was up there. It's up there. You 2477 02:31:54.680 --> 02:31:56.879 know, you could do a lot better if if that's the number you want 2478 02:31:56.959 --> 02:32:03.079 to be higher, but more than just yeah, yeah, yeah, I 2479 02:32:03.239 --> 02:32:05.479 drank that entire bottle. I mean, I drank the entire bottle. I 2480 02:32:05.479 --> 02:32:09.399 wouldn't call it. You shared it, right, I drink the entire bottle. 2481 02:32:09.280 --> 02:32:13.760 I drank the entire bottle. You drink the entire bottle me and one 2482 02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:16.879 night. Yeah, Jesus good. My girlfriend is smart enough to not want 2483 02:32:16.879 --> 02:32:20.360 any part of that. No one, no one else consumed even one drop 2484 02:32:20.440 --> 02:32:22.200 of that slurcade. Hey, brand's back. That's what you're saying. Hello, 2485 02:32:22.799 --> 02:32:24.600 I'm trying to think if she even had a sip of it, and 2486 02:32:24.639 --> 02:32:30.719 I don't think so that is indeed smart. Uh, I would say, 2487 02:32:30.959 --> 02:32:35.479 Yeah, so I put that, I put all that inside me and lifts 2488 02:32:35.479 --> 02:32:37.079 tell the tale. Yeah, and here I am. I'm gonna be at 2489 02:32:37.079 --> 02:32:41.239 a lake in Minnesota this weekend. That's gonna be a lot of but light 2490 02:32:41.280 --> 02:32:43.360 going on. Are you going to handsons Les? It's every year? Yeah, 2491 02:32:43.399 --> 02:32:48.200 I know, God damn it, I miss it there m for it's 2492 02:32:48.200 --> 02:32:50.120 a good weekend to be by a lake. Oh right, it is July 2493 02:32:50.239 --> 02:32:56.079 fourth. Yes, I should probably do some fire workshop near lakes here in 2494 02:32:56.120 --> 02:32:58.879 the middle of the city. Yeah, I mean, fireworks are legal up 2495 02:32:58.920 --> 02:33:00.840 near me, but it's not the ones you want. Oh, it's not 2496 02:33:00.879 --> 02:33:03.479 the actual ones to blow up. Ye's just like I don't know. Here's 2497 02:33:03.520 --> 02:33:07.920 some sparks the ideal places something we're blue. Yeah, the ideal place is 2498 02:33:07.959 --> 02:33:09.559 a huge lake or something where everyone's got lake houses on it. Because then 2499 02:33:09.639 --> 02:33:13.760 like everyone's doing everyone goes to the lake for July fourth. Yeah, everyone's 2500 02:33:13.760 --> 02:33:16.719 buying four hundred dollars worth of fireworks and so like you're setting your own shit 2501 02:33:16.799 --> 02:33:18.680 off, and then like the lot next to it and a lot next to 2502 02:33:18.719 --> 02:33:20.360 that, there's just fireworks going off all around a lake. The reflection looks 2503 02:33:20.399 --> 02:33:24.719 cool like that. That is how you do sounds off every year. Yeah, 2504 02:33:24.040 --> 02:33:26.520 that sounds really great. Yeah, should go with you. It's fun. 2505 02:33:28.520 --> 02:33:33.440 Do it. You still have time. I do hitchhike into suitcase. 2506 02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:37.520 Speaking of fireworks, Oakland has been celebrating uh for the July for a couple 2507 02:33:37.559 --> 02:33:39.520 of weeks. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you get kind 2508 02:33:39.559 --> 02:33:43.440 of accustomed. Yeah, Like seriously, we have a like a baseball park 2509 02:33:43.559 --> 02:33:46.280 right by our place, and there were some real fireworks that they went off 2510 02:33:46.319 --> 02:33:48.440 there, like seriously, like one hundred feet up in the air and they're 2511 02:33:48.440 --> 02:33:52.000 actually exploding it. It's like, you can't buy that out of the store. 2512 02:33:52.399 --> 02:33:54.040 I don't think you can. You just got to go to the right 2513 02:33:54.040 --> 02:33:56.159 store. And that store is in Nevada, right, it's not in California. 2514 02:33:56.360 --> 02:34:01.000 Yeah, exactly. But no, so I've got kind of accustomed to 2515 02:34:01.079 --> 02:34:05.079 big bangs. I guess like as of late, Apparently there were some big 2516 02:34:05.159 --> 02:34:11.000 bangs that were not fireworks. There was from a car huh. Possibly, 2517 02:34:11.680 --> 02:34:13.559 but no, I guess not. I went outside and the scary guard came 2518 02:34:13.600 --> 02:34:16.120 out to me. He's like, do you hear all that? And I'm 2519 02:34:16.200 --> 02:34:18.159 like, what what the fireworks? And he's like, no, the gun 2520 02:34:18.280 --> 02:34:22.799 shot. Somebody shot up some car, like right outside of my house. 2521 02:34:24.639 --> 02:34:28.799 I don't I don't know if anybody got hit or what. But yeah, 2522 02:34:28.840 --> 02:34:35.879 there were police officers and scary shit. Oakland. What's up? That was 2523 02:34:35.959 --> 02:34:37.760 the first encounter. Have you been to a side show yet? A side 2524 02:34:37.799 --> 02:34:41.079 show? Yeah? No, I don't think so. People turn in tight 2525 02:34:41.159 --> 02:34:43.639 ones? No, in the middle of intersections, Nope, A tight one? 2526 02:34:43.719 --> 02:34:48.120 Is that a U turn sick ass? Donuts man spinning Brodie's spinning Brodies? 2527 02:34:48.399 --> 02:34:52.559 I no, No, I've never been invited. I always drove according 2528 02:34:52.600 --> 02:34:56.799 to traffic laws. There were no brodis. There's great donuts, some great 2529 02:34:56.879 --> 02:35:03.239 slash scary depending on your perspective. Videos of on YouTube of people at sideshows 2530 02:35:03.239 --> 02:35:07.879 in Oakland, just fucking spinning donuts in an intersection, like cars kind of 2531 02:35:07.920 --> 02:35:09.319 blocking off all the directions, so like there's no you know, they're kind 2532 02:35:09.319 --> 02:35:13.639 of blocking off a full intersection. I've seen that. Yeah, just spinning 2533 02:35:13.680 --> 02:35:16.760 donuts and fucking shooting a pistol in the air. Okay, And you're just 2534 02:35:16.879 --> 02:35:18.319 like, all right, man, that looks fucking awesome. Yeah, Like 2535 02:35:18.799 --> 02:35:24.520 also that's super not safe and it's likely jeez, that is That was the 2536 02:35:24.600 --> 02:35:28.399 first set of gunshots that I've heard while I've been in Oaklans. Yeah, 2537 02:35:28.440 --> 02:35:31.239 that's I guess that's saying something I've been do not And you know, it's 2538 02:35:31.280 --> 02:35:33.200 fourth of July. This is one of those holidays where people do extra fucking 2539 02:35:33.319 --> 02:35:35.639 dumb shit, and like, look, I'm not gonna tell you how to 2540 02:35:35.680 --> 02:35:39.360 fucking live your life. Don't fucking shoot guns in the air. Yeah, 2541 02:35:39.440 --> 02:35:41.479 Jesus, come on, you have to go somewhere. Yeah, if you 2542 02:35:41.520 --> 02:35:43.600 have to shoot guns on the fourth of July, which hey, I get 2543 02:35:43.639 --> 02:35:48.360 it, we've all been there, fucking shoot him into the ground, shoot 2544 02:35:48.440 --> 02:35:50.760 him. It still makes the exact same noise. There's no benefit to you 2545 02:35:50.879 --> 02:35:58.440 shooting a pistol in the air. No, there's no there's no benefit. 2546 02:35:58.840 --> 02:36:01.840 I'm waiting there, there's no. No, there's definitely not. There's there's 2547 02:36:01.840 --> 02:36:03.360 a super noo benefit. It's you know you do that, there is a 2548 02:36:03.399 --> 02:36:05.840 benefit to that. Also, no one should ever do. Is that did 2549 02:36:05.879 --> 02:36:09.959 this for years where you would buy hundreds of dollars worth of fireworks, get 2550 02:36:09.000 --> 02:36:11.159 a bunch of friends to chip in or whatever. You get a big gass 2551 02:36:11.280 --> 02:36:15.399 box of them, yep, and then you douse it all in gasoline it 2552 02:36:15.479 --> 02:36:18.639 light or fluid, and everyone gets a Roman candle and you all shoot and 2553 02:36:18.680 --> 02:36:20.840 you try to see which one can land it in and blow up the whole 2554 02:36:20.840 --> 02:36:24.440 box. And I remember one year we got a couple of the shots in 2555 02:36:24.479 --> 02:36:28.319 there, but it didn't set on fire or whatever. So I had to 2556 02:36:28.399 --> 02:36:30.719 run up and I had actually light a thing and throw it in there, 2557 02:36:31.040 --> 02:36:33.280 and like ran away as this thing is exploding behind me, and all the 2558 02:36:33.280 --> 02:36:37.040 bottle rockets were loosing there, so they're shooting every direction totally. It's almost 2559 02:36:37.079 --> 02:36:39.920 like a mushroom cloud of flame going real good. Oh my god, it 2560 02:36:41.000 --> 02:36:45.399 was great. That's that's a real fun thing. We modified don't do. 2561 02:36:45.680 --> 02:36:50.360 Don't don't do this. One year, my Dad and I modified a firework 2562 02:36:50.559 --> 02:36:54.639 by adding a lot of gunpowder to it. Wow, it was one of 2563 02:36:54.719 --> 02:36:58.559 those like big cylinders that's like supposed to emit sparks and just like, h 2564 02:36:58.760 --> 02:37:01.920 it's a little boring, but it containing. Yeah, but there's a ton 2565 02:37:01.000 --> 02:37:03.719 of hob there's a ton of extra space in there, and you're like, 2566 02:37:03.799 --> 02:37:07.200 what, there could be way more stuff in here. So put way more 2567 02:37:07.239 --> 02:37:09.680 gunpowder in there and then ran some fuse down to the bottom which had been 2568 02:37:09.719 --> 02:37:13.559 where all the gunpowder was to make sure that it lived, and set it 2569 02:37:13.559 --> 02:37:18.280 out in the middle of our court light. It get back about three sparks, 2570 02:37:18.319 --> 02:37:22.520 shootout and then it's fucking twenty foot flames for about for about twenty seconds, 2571 02:37:24.000 --> 02:37:26.920 and it's just great because it sounds like a fucking jet and it's just 2572 02:37:26.959 --> 02:37:33.799 going. We had to go inside after that. Yeah, fireworks have never 2573 02:37:33.879 --> 02:37:37.479 been that cool ever since. Totally like, I don't, I don't. 2574 02:37:37.559 --> 02:37:41.680 I'm not gonna probably not gonna get any fireworks this year because who cares. 2575 02:37:41.360 --> 02:37:45.760 All the ones that are legal in this state's fucking suck ass. Yeah, 2576 02:37:46.479 --> 02:37:48.000 spot, I didn't know they're any legal here. It depends on what county 2577 02:37:48.000 --> 02:37:50.559 you live in. Really, Oh I thought it was Yeah, I thought 2578 02:37:50.559 --> 02:37:56.280 it was our staywood on my dorm floor. Freshman year of college. I 2579 02:37:56.319 --> 02:37:58.920 knew a guy it's always frustrated because he couldn't get into his room at times. 2580 02:38:00.000 --> 02:38:03.000 He had like a pot luck roommate, and he would frequently go in 2581 02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:05.280 there with a lady and lock the door so my friend could not get in 2582 02:38:05.360 --> 02:38:09.159 there. So this friend could not get in one night, and he was 2583 02:38:09.200 --> 02:38:11.559 particularly intoxicated, and it's nearest life. Fourth, I had a ton of 2584 02:38:11.600 --> 02:38:15.319 fireworks. I think they were mine. But he grabbed this big bundle of 2585 02:38:15.399 --> 02:38:18.159 like fifty bottle rockets, Yeah, lit it, and then had his friend 2586 02:38:18.159 --> 02:38:22.159 who knew how like Jimmy doors open with a credit card. Jim made the 2587 02:38:22.200 --> 02:38:24.680 thing open, so his roommate is in there in the middle of coitus. 2588 02:38:24.000 --> 02:38:28.440 Yeah, opens the door, throws in fifty lit bottle rockets, and shuts 2589 02:38:28.479 --> 02:38:33.799 the door behind him. Awesome, Awesome, Oh my god, it's a 2590 02:38:33.879 --> 02:38:35.239 real funny thing to do. That's a real funny thing to do. That's 2591 02:38:35.280 --> 02:38:39.079 fucked up. Like I don't even like, I can't even like people that 2592 02:38:39.200 --> 02:38:43.719 like throw individual firecrackers at each other. Oh yeah, Like I can't even 2593 02:38:43.760 --> 02:38:46.120 abide that this is like sterious, it's crazy. Don't do that. Why 2594 02:38:46.159 --> 02:38:50.159 would you do that? That's how I burned my first pair of America pants. 2595 02:38:50.200 --> 02:38:52.440 There's under the Life for it in college time. Put two lit Roman 2596 02:38:52.479 --> 02:38:54.360 candles in my pocket and ran down the street as they were shooting off, 2597 02:38:54.680 --> 02:38:58.840 and then it just burnt through and set my pants on fire. So I 2598 02:38:58.920 --> 02:39:01.639 had to retire the first I got them somewhere. They're all racks buck flag. 2599 02:39:03.159 --> 02:39:05.719 Good job, it was accident. I just admitted to Oh no, 2600 02:39:05.719 --> 02:39:13.159 oh no, seems to be a lot of audio involving people. Cy God 2601 02:39:13.479 --> 02:39:16.079 aund this website. Next. The next was for Dan and I don't think 2602 02:39:16.079 --> 02:39:18.360 I'm gonna read it now because I don't think he can talk anymore after the 2603 02:39:18.440 --> 02:39:22.159 last two Stimes' hear no, no, no, I gotta hear it. 2604 02:39:22.959 --> 02:39:26.520 Uh. Every year a lot of people come out of Fourth July missing their 2605 02:39:26.559 --> 02:39:31.920 hands. So yeah, fucking be careful. It's fucking there's I think somebody 2606 02:39:31.959 --> 02:39:35.399 in San Francisco last year lost a hand. I'm sure. Yeah, it's 2607 02:39:35.440 --> 02:39:37.479 a big city, plenty of hands loose. Yeah, it's fucked up, 2608 02:39:37.520 --> 02:39:41.920 Like, let's stay away from fireworks. Yeah, safe, insane, Yes, 2609 02:39:43.159 --> 02:39:48.680 get a punk stick there you go. All right, I'm gonna give 2610 02:39:48.719 --> 02:39:52.280 you one more chance. All right, uh Russell, excuse me, man, 2611 02:39:52.440 --> 02:39:56.200 I gotta get out of here. Russell from Calgary. It's questions for 2612 02:39:56.280 --> 02:40:00.879 Dan Reichert as a former resident, what is your opinion on the legality or 2613 02:40:00.959 --> 02:40:03.879 illegality of hedgehogs in the city of Lawrence, Kansas. That's a weird thing 2614 02:40:05.040 --> 02:40:07.719 that was as while I was in college. I want to say that's probably 2615 02:40:07.719 --> 02:40:11.840 like oh, seven o eight. There's some big thing about how it turned 2616 02:40:11.879 --> 02:40:13.840 out they were illegal, Like you couldn't own hedgehogs as a pet. Okay, 2617 02:40:13.840 --> 02:40:18.120 we are talking about literal hedgehogs. This isn't some awful euphanism for something 2618 02:40:18.159 --> 02:40:20.440 else. No. No, if I remember, don't possessed Ron Jeremy. 2619 02:40:20.559 --> 02:40:22.920 Okay, that's kind of what I was working. No, no, nope, 2620 02:40:22.959 --> 02:40:24.639 I remember right. It was some little kid, it's like eight or 2621 02:40:24.719 --> 02:40:26.840 nine, and he, like I think he was obsessed with song like the 2622 02:40:26.879 --> 02:40:28.920 hedgehog, and he wanted the hedgehog as a pet. Oh, this is 2623 02:40:30.120 --> 02:40:33.079 going to a dark place. And now I don't think there's a huge story 2624 02:40:33.120 --> 02:40:35.360 there. I think it got big pressed because the Daily Show did a segment 2625 02:40:35.680 --> 02:40:39.600 or I think Samantha Bee or someone went out to Lawrence and interviewed this kid 2626 02:40:39.719 --> 02:40:41.680 or whatever. But yeah, I think it was just one of those weird 2627 02:40:41.760 --> 02:40:46.319 old laws or something. It's been forever since I've read about this story. 2628 02:40:46.399 --> 02:40:48.000 But oh, this was like a law on the books from like eighteen fifty 2629 02:40:48.079 --> 02:40:50.399 or two. I want to say, that's what the story was. It's 2630 02:40:50.440 --> 02:40:54.239 been forever, so yeah, I don't remember, but yeah, nothing here's 2631 02:40:54.280 --> 02:40:56.399 there. I think they're legal now, I should hope. So yeah, 2632 02:40:56.479 --> 02:41:01.120 I never had on was America last time I checked. Yeah, all right, 2633 02:41:01.719 --> 02:41:05.319 all right, see you redeemed yourself. I was. I was worried, 2634 02:41:05.200 --> 02:41:11.639 but we're all good. All right, shows running along. Let's cram 2635 02:41:11.719 --> 02:41:16.200 in one email and then get out of here. David and Tucson. Email 2636 02:41:16.319 --> 02:41:20.079 is about our sick ass cyberpunk future. Here we go. Given is pretty 2637 02:41:20.120 --> 02:41:24.079 much inevitable at this point that we're headed towards some kind of cyberpunk dystopian future. 2638 02:41:24.680 --> 02:41:30.159 It's time to come clear on everyone's augmentation upgrade path. But would you 2639 02:41:30.200 --> 02:41:35.200 get replaced first with cybernetics beyond the obvious Internet implant in the brain? Google 2640 02:41:35.239 --> 02:41:39.079 Glass Slash, Ghosts and the shell stuff additional appendages for manual labor would be 2641 02:41:39.159 --> 02:41:46.479 pretty sick personally. Let's go around the table here, I'll take it all 2642 02:41:48.120 --> 02:41:50.479 everything. So if you could just take my brain out, because that's the 2643 02:41:50.479 --> 02:41:52.760 only thing I care about is my brain and just keeping my thoughts and everything 2644 02:41:52.840 --> 02:41:56.120 that I like and everything, just take it out and put it in some 2645 02:41:56.319 --> 02:42:00.959 super cool you know robot that can shoot lasers. I'm high and fly around 2646 02:42:01.040 --> 02:42:03.920 and do all sorts of cool shit. I don't need any part of my 2647 02:42:03.000 --> 02:42:07.719 actual organic body except for my brain. What if what if you lost every 2648 02:42:07.239 --> 02:42:11.719 what if you no longer have access to every pleasurable experience that you now have 2649 02:42:13.639 --> 02:42:16.559 lost access? What do you mean because you wouldn't have to you wouldn't have 2650 02:42:16.639 --> 02:42:18.959 your body? Oh, I guess so winer stuff wouldn't feel that good? 2651 02:42:20.440 --> 02:42:22.000 Roots there's I mean in that case? And yeah, I want my winer 2652 02:42:22.120 --> 02:42:26.879 and my brain probably don't have the weiner at all. Well, no, 2653 02:42:26.159 --> 02:42:28.840 then I'm just no dice. I gotta keep you have not thought this playing 2654 02:42:28.879 --> 02:42:33.159 through very thoroughly. I'm not going without my wings to say, the robot 2655 02:42:33.200 --> 02:42:35.360 body would even look like a person. You could be a giant robot spider. 2656 02:42:37.120 --> 02:42:39.319 I'd want to be a handsome robot so I can still do winter stuff 2657 02:42:39.520 --> 02:42:46.000 and I want to. But what if you could just trigger the brain response 2658 02:42:46.159 --> 02:42:50.799 that sex causes at any time, the emotional humans touching humans. What if 2659 02:42:52.200 --> 02:42:54.360 the robot. But if you stimulate that part too, Yeah, I mean 2660 02:42:54.399 --> 02:42:58.319 if you if it was the robot, Spider, dude, it was indiscernible 2661 02:42:58.399 --> 02:43:03.239 to my my robot. I mean, if you are willing to give up 2662 02:43:03.280 --> 02:43:05.600 your humanity, let's go all the way with it. Yeah, yeah, 2663 02:43:05.920 --> 02:43:09.319 sure, brain in a jar. Who needs a robot body? You could 2664 02:43:09.360 --> 02:43:16.680 just like I'm just singularity, You're just gonna live inside a computer anyway. 2665 02:43:16.760 --> 02:43:18.079 Yeah, hook yourself up to a simulation where you don't even need a body. 2666 02:43:18.079 --> 02:43:22.200 You just do what ever, and then the simulation you can do hollow 2667 02:43:22.239 --> 02:43:26.719 deck, kinky weird stuff, Barkley style all day long. And Barkley got 2668 02:43:26.760 --> 02:43:33.920 over that hollow weener. I hate this future, this conversation. It's very 2669 02:43:33.959 --> 02:43:37.120 disturbing, Jason. I can't tap that. No, I've replaced the broken 2670 02:43:37.159 --> 02:43:43.760 shit, still want my wiener real, Yeah, everything that was broken it 2671 02:43:43.879 --> 02:43:48.000 Jeff. So he's saying, like other than the obvious, like I stuff. 2672 02:43:48.200 --> 02:43:52.200 Yeah, yeah, connectivity stuff. Well yeah, he says, well, 2673 02:43:52.239 --> 02:43:54.760 no, he just said the Internet implant in the brain, Google, 2674 02:43:54.879 --> 02:43:58.200 Last Slash, Ghosts, and the shell stuff. So that's yeah, I 2675 02:43:58.200 --> 02:44:03.200 guess that's that's that's neural interface type eyeball. Eyeballs are still fair game. 2676 02:44:03.840 --> 02:44:07.440 Oh yeah, probably. Then then I would maybe get fucking robot eyes that 2677 02:44:07.520 --> 02:44:13.159 see shit real good, or like spinal replacement, like full on, like 2678 02:44:13.319 --> 02:44:16.440 reinforced. I would get interested, like you can lift a car over your 2679 02:44:16.479 --> 02:44:20.879 head or something. You just want to advance warfare exo basically and nothing that 2680 02:44:22.000 --> 02:44:24.840 bulky, Okay, Like I want to maintain a human look, and I 2681 02:44:24.879 --> 02:44:28.280 want to I want to fucking I want a sleeper. I want some fucking 2682 02:44:28.319 --> 02:44:31.520 shit that like you know, people look at it and just go like that's 2683 02:44:31.559 --> 02:44:33.879 some off the line stock shit, and then I just fucking throw a car 2684 02:44:33.959 --> 02:44:37.000 at people. Okay. I want Big Jack's arms. Fuck yeah, Okay, 2685 02:44:37.600 --> 02:44:39.680 my full robot body. I also want my tongue so I can tast 2686 02:44:39.680 --> 02:44:43.280 stuff. I think the more you bolt onto this thing, the less feasible. 2687 02:44:43.280 --> 02:44:46.879 Again, if you're in a robot body, you could synthesize the taste 2688 02:44:46.879 --> 02:44:50.280 of anything and stimulate your brain the same way that those things. You could 2689 02:44:50.280 --> 02:44:52.399 just taste. It just goes all the time. I could just download, 2690 02:44:54.280 --> 02:44:56.799 just have that taste in your system all the time, and I'm not paying 2691 02:44:56.840 --> 02:45:00.920 tongue up grade. All right, there you go. I don't think I 2692 02:45:01.000 --> 02:45:03.319 could install a mechanical in playfts, so I don't think I could do it. 2693 02:45:03.639 --> 02:45:07.440 M talk to me about gene therapy maybe, oh sure, yeah you 2694 02:45:07.479 --> 02:45:09.520 should give me perfect die as to can see the entire spectrum or something. 2695 02:45:09.680 --> 02:45:13.280 Yeah, yeah, that would that would be super cool without having to shove 2696 02:45:13.319 --> 02:45:16.120 a bunch of metal into me, like actual, actual crazy vision. I 2697 02:45:16.239 --> 02:45:18.719 bet, I bet, I bet getting metal stuff implanted or installed is like 2698 02:45:18.840 --> 02:45:22.079 not pleasant. It a lot fucking I wouldn't want to be the first one. 2699 02:45:22.319 --> 02:45:26.159 Yeah, Like I'm not sitting here still, like let's pioneer this ship. 2700 02:45:26.399 --> 02:45:26.959 Time to get it. They give you a deal, like if you 2701 02:45:28.000 --> 02:45:30.360 get a group on, if you're the first one, that I would totally 2702 02:45:30.440 --> 02:45:31.200 do it. The whole thing about a group on is it's a group of 2703 02:45:31.239 --> 02:45:33.440 people. You can't be the first one, Okay. If it's just a 2704 02:45:33.559 --> 02:45:37.719 cupon then yeah, all right, yes, Or they just say hey, 2705 02:45:37.760 --> 02:45:39.319 you'd be the first one and cost last because you'll probably die or whatever. 2706 02:45:39.559 --> 02:45:46.879 The cubon or coupon cupon, okay, coupon cue like the word cute when 2707 02:45:46.879 --> 02:45:50.479 I was a kid, and then I was mocked mercilessly until I gave it 2708 02:45:50.559 --> 02:45:54.760 up. I Uh, what's the word seceded? That means you gave up 2709 02:45:56.440 --> 02:46:00.639 no no from the union. What's the word when you get this concession? 2710 02:46:00.799 --> 02:46:05.000 I can see it. Con Seed is the word I conceded on the word 2711 02:46:05.079 --> 02:46:07.280 crayon because for years and years and years I said crown. Yes, where 2712 02:46:07.280 --> 02:46:09.520 does that come from? I don't know, But eventually I looked at it. 2713 02:46:09.600 --> 02:46:11.319 I was like, you know what, that probably sounds like crayon. 2714 02:46:11.319 --> 02:46:16.559 I've definitely known a lot of people that have said crown, Yeah, crown, 2715 02:46:16.799 --> 02:46:22.200 crayon. I always said crown. M M all right, uh fucking 2716 02:46:22.280 --> 02:46:26.319 weird. It's a lot of weird stuff. Yeah, man, I don't 2717 02:46:26.520 --> 02:46:31.920 like I want reflexes to like like make me the stealth best basketball player in 2718 02:46:31.000 --> 02:46:37.600 the world or a baseball player that can automatically hit any pitch, because I 2719 02:46:37.680 --> 02:46:39.639 can, fucking I have the reflexes to react. Oh man, we'll think 2720 02:46:39.639 --> 02:46:43.159 about when it's not just juicing. You have to worry about it totally in 2721 02:46:43.200 --> 02:46:48.159 the major league anymore? Ye As, Yeah, I want to Baseball would 2722 02:46:48.159 --> 02:46:50.200 be way more exciting. Barry Bonds has a robot spun, except that, 2723 02:46:50.319 --> 02:46:54.600 like if everyone was augmented, like, what would it even look like? 2724 02:46:54.840 --> 02:46:56.760 Yeah, well, you'd have to have a whole separate league, right, 2725 02:46:56.920 --> 02:46:58.520 Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, that's what they didn't real steal, 2726 02:46:58.639 --> 02:47:01.680 Like the boxing got too dangerous for everybody, so they just made robots. 2727 02:47:03.159 --> 02:47:05.680 But then there was one robot who could think and feel, oh and 2728 02:47:05.840 --> 02:47:09.399 dance. Okay, that's where that humid battle box back on the air. 2729 02:47:09.600 --> 02:47:13.879 Yeah, it's like a yeah, I think it's all Network TV even all 2730 02:47:13.959 --> 02:47:18.280 right. I spent a significant time as a child. My mom was one 2731 02:47:18.280 --> 02:47:20.200 of those moms I would always say like, literally anything as possible. I 2732 02:47:20.280 --> 02:47:22.200 remember being like a seven or eight year old kid and being like, I 2733 02:47:22.200 --> 02:47:24.280 could I can't fly if I wanted to, and She's like, no, 2734 02:47:24.399 --> 02:47:28.079 anything as possible. I remember saying to her, Okay, I just saw 2735 02:47:28.079 --> 02:47:31.879 a terminator too. I want a terminator arm more than anything in the world. 2736 02:47:31.239 --> 02:47:35.079 I said, that's not possible. Yes, anything's possible. She got 2737 02:47:35.120 --> 02:47:39.200 out the Yeah. I used to sit on my porch for decent amounts of 2738 02:47:39.280 --> 02:47:41.280 times be like, well, all I gotta do is want something enough, 2739 02:47:41.399 --> 02:47:43.680 And so I would look away from my arm, and I was not part 2740 02:47:43.719 --> 02:47:46.840 of what she said. It wasn't anything as possible in my brain. That's 2741 02:47:46.879 --> 02:47:48.639 I worked like, well, if I want something enough, it can just 2742 02:47:48.719 --> 02:47:50.959 happen. And so I would look away from my arm, and I'd go 2743 02:47:52.000 --> 02:47:54.479 like, all right, when I look back at my arm, it's gonna 2744 02:47:54.479 --> 02:47:56.040 be just like when Arnold took it off in T two, and I go 2745 02:47:56.600 --> 02:47:58.840 okay, And I'd look at it and I'd have a normal human hand and 2746 02:47:58.840 --> 02:48:01.680 be super bummed out that it was very disappointing. Yeah, I did that 2747 02:48:01.760 --> 02:48:07.680 a lot as a kidd and was wrong. She was wrong on that. 2748 02:48:07.840 --> 02:48:11.719 No, anything is possible. It's true, I don't have a terminator arm. 2749 02:48:11.840 --> 02:48:16.440 You're not talking to the right people. Okay, look the laws of 2750 02:48:16.520 --> 02:48:24.600 quantum uncertainty stays. Emails are over, this podcast is over. I gotta 2751 02:48:24.600 --> 02:48:26.600 go blow my nose again. Anything's possible, except for apparently like landing a 2752 02:48:26.719 --> 02:48:31.959 rocket, yeah, or launching one. Right. That was a shame. 2753 02:48:33.319 --> 02:48:35.840 There was a hollow lens on that rocket. I don't know if you saw 2754 02:48:35.000 --> 02:48:37.719 not anymore? Did you did you see that stuff? Yeah? Yeah, 2755 02:48:37.719 --> 02:48:41.200 they were sending one to the ISS for the astronauts to mess with. Wow, 2756 02:48:41.600 --> 02:48:46.920 the world is now one hollow lens poorer damn because it burned up along 2757 02:48:46.959 --> 02:48:50.159 with that rocket space. All the other hollow lenses are now worth that much 2758 02:48:50.239 --> 02:48:56.639 more. True enough, they're the ones that did it. How Deep does 2759 02:48:56.639 --> 02:49:01.959 the Rabbit Hole Go? Podcast at johnbomb dot com. Let's get out of 2760 02:49:01.959 --> 02:49:03.120 here? Yeah cool, that's all I got. All right, shall we 2761 02:49:03.159 --> 02:49:05.840 get out of here? You nose? Yeah, it's short week this week. 2762 02:49:07.000 --> 02:49:09.440 We're not here on Friday. Yes it's a holiday. Yes, well 2763 02:49:09.479 --> 02:49:11.680 the day after the holiday. But yes, you're right, we're not here 2764 02:49:13.200 --> 02:49:16.239 well that Friday. We're making Friday holiday, so they give us the day 2765 02:49:16.280 --> 02:49:20.920 off. It's holiday, sure, the best holiday, yeah, number two. 2766 02:49:20.159 --> 02:49:24.040 Therefore we're going to be doing something mon Thursday. Correct, Yeah, 2767 02:49:24.440 --> 02:49:28.440 same time as a Friday sea that's yeah, sure, not all right, 2768 02:49:28.399 --> 02:49:33.760 stay tuned for that. Bring your business. Yes, we'll cramp some other 2769 02:49:33.799 --> 02:49:39.399 stuff into this week. Oh yeah, tbd. Sure it'll be something'll go, 2770 02:49:39.479 --> 02:49:41.840 it'll go on the website. We got stuff, Yeah, some stuff 2771 02:49:41.920 --> 02:49:46.159 lined up, maybe even another live show. Oh wow, I'm right. 2772 02:49:46.840 --> 02:49:50.040 I might actually know what you're talking about. All right, that's exciting, 2773 02:49:50.680 --> 02:49:52.920 all right, Well, keep your eyes glued. Chiant bomb not coming for 2774 02:49:52.959 --> 02:49:56.719 all that hot business. Uh, And come back here next week at the 2775 02:49:56.719 --> 02:50:00.360 same time for another addition of the Giant Bomb Cast. See that