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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to Iye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Roberta. He's jagan zaus who
got a bonus day with Kevin today on

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a Friday Friday. You have nothing
to do. No pizza needed this time,

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you know, pizza, but we
got it anyway. Anyways, and

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dang that was good. It was
good. Wasn't It was different? It

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was really good. Yeah. Okay, so Friday, welcome everybody. Give

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us a quick call, give us
your thoughts on whatever we have. I

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think we do have a fun show
today. We usually have the opinionated Jig

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Fisher right on Friday. So he'll
be back. We haven't had him in

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a couple of weeks since the announcement
of the game. Yeah, he played

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in an Alamo Bowl, Okay,
yeah a freshman, Yeah right, and

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not as a freshman because twenty fourteen
Junior twenty twenty twenty ten Arizona was in

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the twenty ten Alima because then Mike
STIPs got fired. The next year and

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he was also in the two thousand
and nine Holiday Bowl, where he'll remember

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those two. But then he added
two more under rich Rod played in the

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New Mexico Bowl to come back against
Nevada, and then the next year in

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the Independence Bowl. Okay, so
we'll talk to him. Four bowl games

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in his five years. They're not
bad, oh okay, And then we're

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gonna have a fun guest. Four
fifteen, Ricky Anderson tried to reach out

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to him and finally he got a
hold of him this morning and he's coming

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on. When I think of Wisconsin
and basketball, of course think about the

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Sean Miller tie, but I also
think of the big game with Wisconsin and

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Arizona in two thousand. Ricky had
a big part in that, good and

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bad. So we'll get with him, have a little fun because he's one

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of my guys. I really like
Ricky. See what he's up to.

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I know what he's up to,
but we'll let him talk about what he's

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doing. Good looking dude, man. She had the picture that we had

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on our social media, like yeah, you know he still looks like he's

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about twenty five. He's about six
foot five ish. Yeah, and I

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pulled him up just before the show
just to like see what he looked like

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back when he was playing. You
know, he had that he had the

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he was the Way band. Yeah. It was awesome, awesome what everyone

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loved Ricky. He was a little
goofy dude. He was a goofy dude,

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like a prank. He wasn't little, but he was. Yeah,

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you know, saying, but you
like a kid, you know, you

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have to look a kid. Playful, Yeah, playful. So he was

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a good dude. So we'll tuk
and have some fun with him at four

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seventeen, four fifteen around there.
Uh okay, so now we're back,

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we're gonna have some and uh some
Tommy Tommy clips, right, you have

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them already? Cute, Yeah,
we're already cute. Up. You want

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to get into those? Right?
Yeah? Yeah? So you how many

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did you have? What did you
We have? Like seven of them kids?

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Okay, really kind of wanted to
start where. Look, the media,

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the fans, everybody's trying to play
up this Wisconsin. I don't know

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if you call it a rivalry,
but you know, obviously the Arizona fans

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are unhappy with what. You know, they hate Wisconsin every but somehow they

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think winning this game is going to
make them feel better about twenty fourteen to

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twenty fifty. It's called the Jiggins
Ali's curse. It's called I'm a bitter

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man. I hate you because you
beat us. But he is my first

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my question, no, no,
we we'll play. You want to go

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in that one first. I don't
remember him talking about Wisconsin otherwise, Well

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at the start, where you know, just kind of talking about this team

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focus and stuff like that, let's
let's go, let's play the first clip.

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But this is right at the top
of his press consence makes sense.

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We've just practiced a few days.
I mean, you know, probably been

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a few good moments and a few
average moments in practice. It's like any

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other week that you would have you
know, I haven't. There's been nothing

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different in our approach, you know. I I I think that we're getting

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prepared to play the best team we've
played so far this season. I mean,

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and they're on a roll right now. And you know they might have

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started out and dropped a game or
two against good teams or on the road

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and and I think they've got that
figured out, and they've beat really good

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teams lately and they beat them handle. He's so we know we got our

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hands full with a really good Wisconsin
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that's one hundred percent. Our focus
is is that I know you called that

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a shot yesterday, well playfully called
it a shot at Michigan State and Duke.

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But don't you guys think that Wisconsin, like as it stands today,

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is the best team we played so
far? You can you can say that,

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I mean arguably say that because you
know, Duke has now lost three

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games. Michigan State's lost I think
three or even four, including one to

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when to Wisconsin. In fact,
we wouldn't be talking about Duke of Michigan

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State if they were not Michigan State
or Duke. Yeah, that's kind of

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I guess that's kind of the root
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Wisconsin is not just better than Yeah? Well, let's play clip number three

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because that's when that's where he talks
about Somebody asked him about can you take

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anything from Yeah, you know,
I think the way they be Michigan State

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you played, I don't know,
you know, what what you take from

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the game other than they went in
and and and punched Michigan State in the

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mouth. I mean that they went
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Michigan State's a tough, physical team
and you know, so it's impressive for

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Wisconsin to do what they did on
the road. You know, it says

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a lot about their group. Yeah, well, I mean that's what college

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is right now. I mean,
were we are in December eighth or whatever

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it is, and you could be
tough on December eighth or whatever it is,

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and you still gotta win. And
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know, Wisconsin was one and two, you know, coming out of the

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box, but they're you know,
losses to good teams and and then now

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they you know, want a bunch
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I mean it's you know, he
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this is the best team they played. So you know, again, you

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know, Arizona fan wanted to make
a big deal of the of the stuff

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that happened eight nine years ago here
also back in two thousand, the game

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you know, you know that we'll
talk about with Rick Anderson today, but

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you know, he's just talk about
the series This is two questions he started

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talking about. Then you asked a
question in the middle of it, but

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he was just asked, you know, what what he thinks of this whole

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Oh, I think I think part
of this goes into playing how the series

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came about. That's where this starts. And then you get into the question

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you ask some question about you know, past games. But I mean,

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I think you think both sides were
looking and you know, and you know,

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I know they'd reached out to us, and I think we needed a

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home and home that started at home
this year, you know, with us,

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you know, starting to want at
home and home on the road at

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Duke this year. So it just
kind of worked out. And you know,

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we want to play great programs,
and you know, to you know,

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to be the type of program we
want to be, you've got to

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be comfortable playing teams like Wisconsin,
and you know, I mean Wisconsin the

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team that you know, when I
look at them, I mean they have

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all the makings of a team that
you know, can play deep into the

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tournament and and those are the type
of teams we want to compete against.

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I'm sure some people have already told
you about the history of the yeah,

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yeah, for sure in the mid
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as well, Yeah, I don't
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much longer. I mean I need
I need a historian like you to help

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me out with that. But I
but I know there's a significance you know,

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you know recent you know that that
you know a lot of Arizona fans

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feel passionate about, and I'm sure
a lot of Wisconsin fans. So I

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think that's great. I mean,
you know, I mean that's zero impact

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on this game, but maybe it's
fun for the fans to you know,

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reminisce a little bit and kind of
get their juices flowing. You know,

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good programs want to play other good
programs, and and so so we're excited

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to have the opportunity to play a
really good Wisconsin team on Saturday on National

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TV. You Arizona fans are a
bunch of bitter days, bunch of bitter

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people. I'm not you know,
I mean, what are you talking about?

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Okay, let me say that.
Let me not as it relates to

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Wisconsin basketball. Yeah right, Okay, you know, my heart, you

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know my you know, my heart
got has gotten broken a million times with

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Arizona Sports, mostly in football.
You know, I was very sad about

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the eighty eight loss because I wanted
to do I wanted to cover the national

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championship team. Uh, you know, I I'll I'll make fun of Rick

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Anderson today because you know, he
made he and his boy, he's made

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my son cry. Uh in the
two thousand and three lead eight and not

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meeting Kansas in that game and to
go to the final four. But I

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don't think he was on that team. I want to say he was,

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because that was he might have been, but I can't. I can't remember.

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He was of the media guy.
It was three man okay, okay,

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because he played ninety nine and two
thousand, right, didn't play.

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He registered in the two thousand and
one season. Then he was here for

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two thousand and two and two three. That's why I was on that team.

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That two thousand and three team,
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one that's been the number one of
the longest. Right. It had It

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had Salem, had Luke Jason of
course Channing, yeah, and they had

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I had Hassan and they had Andre. It had to have if they lost

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Kansas, right, yes, yeah, But how come Ricky was not a

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big I don't remember Ricky being a
big part of that and when they probably

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needed him to be a big part
of it. That's I will ask him

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because because that doesn't ring a bell
to me for whatever reason. Yeah,

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and there was what it was pretty
damn good. Just for the guys that

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you listed listed with Andre and Halsa
being number they were freshmen. Yeah,

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but still but you know what,
Kansas was a pretty good thing. Yeah,

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they were okay. So so yeah, so he's aware of the situation.

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I think everybody, how can I
say this? Everybody in the building.

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Obviously the old and new knows the
long history. Didn't you give the

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number yesterday five and two or oh
yeah, the let me look it up

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real quick, something like that,
five and two, and then it hasn't

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been pretty I think, right,
well the most record the record, Yeah,

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well because the three hard ones though, you know, beat they beating

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number one as the number eight beat
the number one, and then and then

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uh these ones, Yeah, no, I get the heartache. I can't

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I understand the heartache. Yeah,
and then you think Wisconsin, No,

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they were pretty good. They got
to to final fours, get them back

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to back. So between two thousand
and nine and twenty and fifteen, they're

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three and oh against us all time. Well because the Sweet sixteen, No,

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that was Wasyow State who beat him
on the last second shot. It

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was Ohio State Sweet sixteen twenty thirteen. I think it was yeah, A

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god, I can't remember birthday exactly, but you know, anyways, all

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right, well let's move on to
uh. Then you know the question going,

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okay, you guys are number one. How is that being handled?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh
in in uh, you know, in

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the locker room and and you know, and on the uh on the uh

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on the court and stuff like that. And you know, Tommy right like

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he's deflecting on this one. So
that's going to play that player. It's

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not much more complicated than coming out
and playing really hard, playing with great

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passion, playing together, you know, And and I don't I don't think

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you need a ranking to do that. So I don't think there's anything crazy.

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I mean, we you know,
we we we don't sit around and

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we haven't talked about it. We
don't have a banner hanging up in the

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in the locker room or anything like
that, because we know, I know

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this, we could get our butts
kicked on Saturday and still have a great

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season. That's how these seasons go. So where we're the only stock we're

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putting in is we want to come
out and play. We're hoping to play

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a good forty minutes on Saturday,
and and anything beyond that. I mean,

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we really haven't thought too far ahead. The outside noise is outside.

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That's always the case, good,
bad, average, it's always on the

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outside. So on the inside,
you know, we we have a strong

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culture and a belief in the in
the things we do, and and we

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just try to get better at that
stuff. And so you know, everybody

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telling you how good or how bad
you are has no impact on what's happening

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inside our locker room. So Jay, when that question was asked, I

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don't know who asked you. It's
a good question, but I'm thinking you

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don't know until you know. And
then the question was us Monday, Tuesday,

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Yes, no, yesterday? When'd
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okay and that and that was there. So I'm thinking a good question.

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But the thing is, you don't
know h how it's gonna affect you until

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you're actually actually in it. So
he can say this yeah, and and

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but I think in the games I've
covered and the teams I've covered, the

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number one killer of success has been
being highly rated, highly ranked, and

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highly considered not maybe not right away, but eventually because a lot of the

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players think their poop doesn't stink,
and that just an excludes it to Arizona

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basketball, It's life, I mean
life. You think you can get away

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with Stylet you know what I'm saying. You just think more of yourself.

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You feel like you don't have to
work as hard, right right, right.

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It's hard to interrupt you. But
I think what you're saying is like,

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it's harder to look for the small
ways you can improve, and no

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one's bringing that to you. Sure, only bringing how great you are.

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Sure And and the other team wants
to beat the crap out of you and

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plays sometimes out of over their head. I mean, I can't tell you,

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Dan, you've seen this Washington Arizona
went to Washington State, didn't have

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a chance to be there as well. Washington State found some white, tall,

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white guy and scored thirty five points. And I'm not joking and I'm

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being serious. He just destroyed him
and you wouldn't know him from the roster

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or when they came down here,
Washington State came down here last year one

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and and one. It just happens. Yeah, I mean it happens a

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lot. It happened, well,
it happens a lot. And and teams

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that don't pay attention to that.
Again, I don't know if that's right

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the right word, but you know
who get caught up and all that stuff

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that, Yeah, you're right,
those are the ones that and if you

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can avoid that, which is what
Tommy's trying to do, you know,

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make them not think of well we're
number one, we should win this game.

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You know, get out on the
court and still know you got to

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play as hard as you were going
to play, whether you're number one or

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sure. Sure they need to do. One of the things that reminded last

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year when they lost the Princess and
I think it was the day before or

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one of those days Virginia lost.
I think it was before. Surely after

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one of the team's gotta beat.
And I'm thinking this is the one thing

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that Arizona should point to. These
teams can get beat. Yeah, and

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you're one of those teams. Yes, if you don't show up, you

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could be that guy be that team. Yeah, and then they were,

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and then exactly exactly because it happens. Yeah, especially in March. Speaking

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up, Princeton has a one and
oh record against Arizona. Yeah, they're

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over five hundred against Arizona. And
you're right, Wisconsin's two and five.

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They played as far back as nineteen
sixty three and look that much. And

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then not long after that they've only
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by the way, and the Wildcats
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you say, I don't I don't
know what year that wasn't my website?

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Yeah, okay, all right,
ouch, what's good? Hard out?

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It is a very hard all right, we're gonna be right, be right

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Steve Rivera. He's jacobsas now on
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Fisher. Jake Howay making a guy
here me. Okay, yes you're good.

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Your little echoed, but you're fine. You did so. Tell me,

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as a former player who's been through
a number of number of bullgames,

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how is it? How cool is
it to be in one? It's cool

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to be in there, But,
like like Jetfish said in his press are

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here this week, you know,
you either go there to win the game

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or you're there just because you know
you're there to enjoy it. So if

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you approach it like a championship game, everybody's obviously even killed, they're getting

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ready to go play. For those
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normally they're the ones that lose.
So as long as these guys go with

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you know, the intention actually win
the game. You got everybody on the

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team basically just buying into what's going
on, I think they'll be okay,

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but you know, kind of like
we did our first two Bowl games.

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When I played, there were a
lot of guys there that just showed up

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because it was a fun time and
whatnot, and we lost as a results

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of it. So hopefully they had
the right way. Well, you mentioned

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those two, those first two,
you know, big bad loss to Nebraska,

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and then you actually played in an
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That was sort of the beginning of
the end for Mike Stoobs and he

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was gone after the following year.
But the OWNII Bowl, you know,

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just the atmosphere of that kind of
stuff. Just describe some of that,

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you know, since that's where the
Cats are headed this year. It's crazy.

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The coolest thing to do down is
actually they have a SeaWorld and they

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have this huge roller coaster. They
got all the cool stuff, and the

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SeaWorld there was better than the Sea
World of the year before when we were

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in San Diego. Other than that, I mean, you go visit the

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Alamo obviously, the Alamo Dome is
awesome, the river Walk. I was

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not twenty one, so I did
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I mean everything around there is awesome. You know. I mean, shoot,

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there were guys that might have been
late for curfew a few different times

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just because there's so much to do. But yeah, I mean, those

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guys are gonna have a ball.
They deserve it. And I will tell

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you San Antonio is a very unique
town. So wait, what was the

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score down there? Six to ten, late for curfew? Thirty six to

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ten equal mind late for curfew.
Okay, I'm saying some of the guys

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it totally makes said snow totally okay. Well, okay, so we were

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we were on our downfall that year, and literally it wasn't for like three

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or four plays in the first few
quarters, it damn here would have been

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tied. It was just it was
those same mistakes that kept losing us games,

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you know, throughout the downfall that
year. I just heard late for

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few. There wasn't too many people. It wasn't anyone important settled down there.

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There's only two people listened to this
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you know again, so that in
your five years there, you had one

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year in the middle where you where
you sat out because you heard you heard

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your knee I had knee injury.
So in your four games of actually you

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know, being on the field.
You went to four bowl games. That

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must have felt like we've heard Josh
Paster talk about, you know, they

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won a national championship his freshman year. He thought, this is easy,

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we can do this. But uh, you know, did the bowl game

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kind of become an expectation for you
ever? Well, yeah, they were

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in an expectation because the year after, the year after they went to the

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Vegas Bowls the year that I got
there. So from there we were on

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the off or trajectory and we just
assume that every year we're going to get

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there. First year obviously went to
a great bowl playing against Nebraska. That

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was, you know, my childhood
dream school was kind of surreal watching them

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fun out in the field. And
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never got recovered and they just basically
bowl rad built. So that wasn't fun.

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Obviously, the next year we're talking
about the alme Bowl. Year after

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that he couldn't play, and then
Rettront's first year New Mexico Bowl and there

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were fireworks at the end of that
one. I was like, in the

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back of my mind, I'm like, damn, I'm about to go through

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bowl games. We come back when
and then senior year when we were down

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there in Louisiana, that was definitely
the most unique experience we've had. But

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it was fun. So you get
to, you know, enjoy all the

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festivities and everything. But at the
end of the day, all the upper

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classroom, you can tell them they're
to win the game. A lot of

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the younger guys, you know,
they'd go out and enjoy the scenery and

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whatnot. But you know, you
got coaches and you've got good leadership.

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Everybody's going to show up for the
game and that's the most important thing.

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So I think one of the things
that I think that's cool is you you

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go and some of the guys get
nice some swag, some cool swag.

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Do you have any of the swag
that you were given from back in the

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day. Yeah, Actually I did
have a lot of swag doing back in

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the day. I'm very very I
don't spend very much money, guys,

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so I try to keep all my
stuff looking that. So what do you

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have? What'd you keep? I
mean I got stuff from every single Bowl

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game, like watching, whether whether
it's the gifts they gave us, whether

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it was the gear they give you
before you hit the plane, whether it's

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you know, just little things that
you buy while you're out there. I

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mean I got something from everything I
got. Obviously you have the rings I

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got, you know, watches.
I still got a couple of things that

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I bought with a you know,
a best Buy gift card when we were

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at San Antonio. I still got
things obviously, like stuff you after the

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game where after the game they give
you like four or five different shirts and

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you know, pairs of shorts pants
everywhere you go. The last two because

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it was so damn cold where we
were playing, they gave us a bunch

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of hoodies and whatnot. So I
still got all of those things. Oh,

410
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very cool, Very cool. So
you mentioned, you know, Nebraska,

411
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you're you know, you still talk
about being a fan of Nebraska.

412
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.559
You know, Everzon who's got Oklahoma
in this in this Alima Bowl? Are

413
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you are you like, are you
still in or were you ever or are

414
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you still in Oklahoma? Absolutely hate
those guys because growing up in a Nebraska

415
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fan or but you know, when
you think about Oklahoma, what do you

416
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think about I mean, when you're
born into a family that's been supporting Nebraska

417
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.839
their entire lives, you have any
natural hate for Oklahoma kind of like being

418
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.640
born in too Son, you have
a natural hate for ASU. So it's

419
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.119
one of those things to where obviously, because I played for, you know,

420
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.160
two of the Soups brothers, you
know, you kind of start to

421
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gain a little bit more appreciation for
you know, how they were able to

422
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.839
separate that program and continue to you
know, that program to the next level.

423
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.119
And to be honest with you,
venomals. I mean I actually enjoy

424
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:11.559
him as a coach. I mean
when he was that Clemson, he was

425
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:17.240
awesome, always had some of the
best defenses in America. And then you

426
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.000
know, I think he got I
think he got a couple of the guys

427
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on the staff that we played with. I mean, you got beaten Bow,

428
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and then I forget. I think
they got one or two other guys

429
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that were down here at too On
at some point. So Latrell, I

430
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think it is up there too.
I mean, they're doing a great job,

431
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and you know, obviously I'll get
a root for Arizona, but I

432
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want it to be a good game
because I want those guys to go out

433
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the right way. Too. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I say

434
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this all the time because I think
that you of all my people, I

435
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talked to all my buddies, or
where are you gonna call him? You

436
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were the one that got it,
sput On. Sput On. In fact,

437
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.200
you said, we want to apologize
because you had him only at eight

438
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.440
wins, but everybody else was kind
of more tempered and all that. So

439
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.440
congrats, and you know you deserve
that because you believed. You believed,

440
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.119
and I think you believe because you
saw something. Right. What was this

441
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.039
thing that you saw? Well,
it's just a talent level, you know,

442
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.960
I mean going from year one,
year two, and I think just

443
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.079
the fact that they have the ability
to tap into the transfer portal when you

444
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.000
really need it, and these guys
they're able to you know, they're able

445
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:25.759
to go out and recruit so well
that first year. I mean, in

446
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.200
the back of your mind you kind
of go, well, if they can

447
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:33.359
recruit that well, and they're selling
the dream the NFL obviously, wherever one

448
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.119
of these guys wants to go.
You know, all the years that those

449
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.920
guys either spent or coaching there,
and I guarantee we're going to be able

450
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.720
to land a couple of big fish
in the transfer portal. Well, first

451
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:47.440
year all offense and then going into
that third year coach Fish and all those

452
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.200
guys said, okay, now we've
got to address the defense. Well,

453
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.759
if they do as good of a
job addressing the defense as they did addressing

454
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the offense, and that you know
next year we're going to be a good

455
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team. And you have a lot
of guys that were still you know,

456
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:06.119
maturing on the obviously on the roster. You know, Jordan Morgan, you

457
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.079
had the team ax of the world. I mean, I knew no if

458
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.519
Fafida was going to be good.
I didn't think he was going to step

459
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.240
in this pass. But I mean, you have a stable of running backs,

460
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.759
you have a few NFL offensive linemen. I mean, the receivers are

461
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.559
awesome, and if they were able
to do what they did to the defense,

462
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.680
what they did at the offense,
they were going to be awesome.

463
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.079
And when you have some folks around
the program, you hear some stuff and

464
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:30.640
it's kind of like, all right, it looks like we got, you

465
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.039
know, a bunch of NFL guys
on the team. So I'm going to

466
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.599
go ahead and guess that we're going
to be good, even though you have

467
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.720
kind of a crazy pack twelve this
year. But what I will tell you

468
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.720
is. I think that the PAC
twelve was awesome this year, but I

469
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.039
think they suffered from a lot of
how don't I say this? I mean,

470
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.640
they basically ate each other alive.
Yeah, you know. I mean

471
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.079
if it was any other conference,
I guess you had half of the conference

472
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.400
wasn't as good. You would have
a you know, a lot more teams

473
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.440
up there in the upper echelon.
But because he had so many good,

474
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.119
you know, fifteen to thirty ranked
type teams in there, you know some

475
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.319
of the team you suffered because of
it. But hey, whatever, No,

476
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.960
you're right, You're right. They
accennibalized each other. Well, all

477
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.200
right, that the world's looking for
us rank I'm gonna take them a little

478
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.200
bit of a different track because the
Heisman Trophy is going to be announced on

479
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:26.200
Saturday. You played against a guy
who ultimately won one. Marcus Mariota,

480
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.000
you played against him in twenty thirteen, and Dominican Sue you played against him

481
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.400
in two thousand and nine. I
think he was in the running, although

482
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.359
he's a defensive guy. Obviously didn't
win it. But do you know when

483
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.759
somebody is that good that they should
be in consideration for that? I mean,

484
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.160
do you see that when you walk
on the field with those guys or

485
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.920
you see them play or whatever.
You know, when you play against them,

486
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:53.039
you say, Okay, that guy's
different. Yeah. So my freshman

487
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.160
year I didn't get on the field
a lot. We played against a guy

488
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.799
named Sooby Gerhart. Yeah, and
he had a lot more rushing yard than

489
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:00.799
a m did. I thought he
should have won it, but they were

490
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.039
only eight and five, so he
didn't win it. The next guy played

491
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.960
against Andrew Luck. I think he
should have won it. He was in

492
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.279
a system where he wasn't going to
rack up the kind of yards, but

493
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.680
I thought he was clearly the best
college football player in the country. And

494
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.640
then he had Marcus Mariotta. So
I mean we played against a bunch of

495
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.640
those types of guys. I mean, they're a bunch of guys that maybe

496
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.279
weren't on good teams that if they
were in a different situation, you kind

497
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.160
of looked at him as that guy. But they didn't have enough around them

498
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.920
in order for them to succeed like
you would think they would. But yeah,

499
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.279
I mean, obviously, you know
Lego, you watch the tape and

500
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:38.759
you kind of like envision this is
kind of what they're going to look like

501
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.880
out on the field and then they're
better than what they show on the film.

502
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.720
Well, it's ridiculous. So yeah, no, I think, to

503
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.279
be honest with you, I'm gluten
for Penix. You know, Pere pocket

504
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.079
Passer obviously. I mean watching that
Pac Til Championship game, he was so

505
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.480
cool, calm and collected. I
was like extremely impressed. You know,

506
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.680
Bonnicks Obviously with the two losses,
I think he's out. Jayden just because

507
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.119
he went to ASU, I'm saying
absolutely not, he's like four. But

508
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.119
other than that, I'm going,
yeah, well that's why I That's where

509
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.880
I was going with you, because
what you said about both you know,

510
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.839
Gerhart and Uh and Uh and Andrew
Luck, right, you know, their

511
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.799
teams they weren't in the hunt for
the national championship and stuff like that.

512
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.480
I thought, I agree with you. I thought both of those guys should

513
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.000
have won it, and I think
Christian McCaffrey should have won one. But

514
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.480
yeah, you know, but you
know, and so Jayden Daniels is in

515
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.279
that kind of Andrew Luck position.
His team isn't playing for the national championship,

516
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.960
but yet he's up there. He's
actually the favorite. You know what

517
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.680
what's your philosophy is that you think
it should be a guy who's not only

518
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.799
really good, but on a team
that's really good, like you know,

519
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.519
like Panix is that type of thing. I'm trying to justify my vote.

520
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.359
I've made my vote, and I'm
not I can't tell you what I voted

521
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.279
for, but I'm just trying to
figure out, you know, get somebody

522
00:32:55.319 --> 00:33:00.400
else's opinion on these three guys.
The way I see it is if you

523
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.960
have just ungodly numbers, I don't
care what team you're on, Like I

524
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.799
mean, if you have eight or
nine wins and you have just ridiculous numbers,

525
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.200
sure you should be there, you
know. I mean that was kind

526
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.400
of like what ended up happening with
with Toby Gerhart. I mean he had,

527
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.759
like I said, like four hundred
yards more than Ingram, but Ingram

528
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.759
played for the National Chambership, right, So when it comes down to that,

529
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.440
if you have crazy numbers, you
know, eight nine wins, that's

530
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.200
fine, you deserve to be in
the conversation. If you're someone that has

531
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.400
a little bit less, but you've
commanded a twelve to oh, thirteen to

532
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:37.519
oh team going into the playoffs,
then obviously you should be there, especially

533
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.279
at a quarterback position because you control
everything on the offense. However, if

534
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:46.640
you have there's an asterisk if you
have played at the university up North,

535
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:52.680
you're disqualified. I love that.
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He had a couple more interesting things to

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say. You asked him about watching
how does he watch college basketball or does

607
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he watch college basketball in all his
spare time? That that was an interesting

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answer. So here's what he had
to say about what watching games as a

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coach when you're not coaching and you
don't have a coaching head on, do

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you watch games as a fan,
other games as a fan, or do

611
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you even have time to watch game? Well, I watch games, but

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you never watch them as a fan. You know, your your eyes are

613
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.119
always on. They're trained maybe a
little differently, and so yeah, I

614
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.159
mean, yeah, we you know, so my wife said, that's what

615
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.480
we do at night. We we
watch games and you know, games are

616
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:19.639
on. We'll change from game to
game, and you know, but I'm

617
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.000
I'm you know, doing other stuff
too around the house and this and that,

618
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.599
but you know, it seems like
a game is always on. So

619
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.079
uh, you know, you just
you know, you peek a little bit

620
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.639
here and there, but you know, your your your coaching eyes always on.

621
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.320
And you know, I've I've learned
a lot of really good things in

622
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.960
basketball that have helped me as a
coach by sitting on my couch watching a

623
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:39.840
game at nine o'clock, you know, watching somebody else do something, because

624
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.199
you know, at the end of
the day, you know, every coach

625
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.840
is somewhat of a thief. You
know, you're you're you're taking from others.

626
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.800
So yeah, so yeah, I
definitely I I enjoy that aspect of

627
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.039
it. You know, we we've
talked about We've talked to other you know,

628
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.639
like former coaches often you know,
players and stuff. How do you

629
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.360
watch sports? Yeah, you know, it's like Lamon Hunt And we asked

630
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.360
him that last week and he said, no, he watches the defense and

631
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.480
and other coaches do that. I
think we talked to Tim Kish about that

632
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.760
the other day and he said the
same thing. He said, and he

633
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.480
pays attention to schemes and and stuff
like that, and that that's how it

634
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:22.159
interests him. I thought that was
again another interesting answer. Yeah. So

635
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.480
so this is the question that Bruce
Pascal got poked at a little bit bike

636
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:31.119
by Tommy asked, if you know
he sees some similarities between what he does

637
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.880
or what Arizona does and what Wisconsin
does and get a sense of what we

638
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.800
might see tomorrow. I do think
there are some similarities, you know,

639
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:44.760
I think they have you know,
they have organized set ways they move with

640
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.920
some fluidity to him that aren't rigid, and they have different you know,

641
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.639
little patterns they run that they're really
good at. And you know, we

642
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.159
have a different version of maybe similar
stuff and maybe we just do ours at

643
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.639
a little different pace. But you
know, both teams, you know,

644
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:04.960
I think have a fluidity to them
that makes them hard to guard. And

645
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.199
and you know, I really enjoyed
watching them play and scouting them. You

646
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.920
know, I've you know, I
haven't played against Wisconsin. You know,

647
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.320
I think we did, you know, maybe back in Maui, you know,

648
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.000
and you know, two thousand and
nine, which is what thirteen fourteen

649
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.239
years ago, so you know,
which is cool because you know, I

650
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:24.360
mean they if I went back and
watched that game, there was probably some

651
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:28.800
similarities to what they're doing then,
you know, and I'm sure they've evolved

652
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.800
a little bit, but they definitely
have a system that they're proficient at running.

653
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.679
So you know that they're they're really
good at it and it's fun to

654
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.400
watch. Uh take a guess.
Do you don't know what the spread is?

655
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:43.280
I haven't take a guess. I'm
gonna say Arizona by four seven and

656
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.679
a half. It seems like a
lot. It seems like a lot,

657
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.079
but I think they'll cover. How
do I know? I haven't seen Wisconsin

658
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.519
playing all But when let me ask
you before you hear you can't. I

659
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.320
can't evenrase this. So I want
to ask that question, when you think

660
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:00.599
of what Wisconsin, what do you
think of? Don't think of the past,

661
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:06.719
but what do you think of you
know, big ten physical, slow

662
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:07.880
down the shop. Yeah, guys
are going to place to play at a

663
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.599
relatively slower lace, right, But
it sounds like they really don't. That's

664
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.239
my point. That's why you think
about something and you say something else.

665
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.639
Yeah, because I mean, you
know, I mean we saw Michigan State,

666
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.440
right, and you know they were
you know, classic big ten physical

667
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.800
push you trying to push you around. Yeah kind of team, some shooters

668
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.239
on the outside. They really only
had one. But nonetheless, you know

669
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:31.320
that that's what that's what you think
of, you know, of all the

670
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.880
of all the teams from the Purdue, you think the same thing. Yeah,

671
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.639
you know with with eat in the
middle, you think, you know,

672
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.079
they're they're just gonna, you know, pass the ball around till they

673
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.760
can throw it into the middle and
try and get something right the line.

674
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.280
The line has actually moved to eight
and a half. Yeah, that seems

675
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.880
like a lot. Now you're thinking, I'm not too sure. I think

676
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:52.119
anything under like nine and that I
mean it's really close. But anything on

677
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:58.079
nine and a half, what do
we have for an over under forty seven

678
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.800
and a half? Yeah, that's
still that's a lot of points. Seventy

679
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:02.519
five, seventy three something like that. That's a lot of points, especially

680
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:06.000
for a team that could slow down. Right, it doesn't seem like a

681
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.480
lot because you think Arizona should score
in the eighties or nineties everything. But

682
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:13.199
you know, I thought that with
the Duke game, right, and they

683
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.880
didn't get to the over right,
and they and they moved the ball and

684
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.840
they ran the ball both right,
right, And it's a home game with

685
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.480
Wisconsin. I think it's gonna be
packed, it's gonna be crazy, But

686
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:28.519
you just don't know what you're getting
out of Wisconsin. Yeah, I think

687
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.960
it's'd be fine. I think it'd
be really cool. So and then I

688
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.559
think you asked him about Caleb Love, right, Yeah, and uh,

689
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.239
you know, Caleb Love was the
guy that I'm not gonna say polarized fans,

690
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.239
but people wonder why they were getting
Caleb Love going after Allen Boswell,

691
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.480
yeah, uh, and the guys
that they had a little worried that because

692
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:51.000
he had he had committed to Michigan
and then he goes So all these things

693
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:52.840
gave people, I think, sort
of a bad impression of Caleb Love.

694
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.880
Plus the way I asked the question
was because he has a reputation of being

695
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.440
a ball guy. But the ball
hall gas you guy. Yeah, And

696
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:02.000
I asked Caleb ab of that too. I said, you have a reputation

697
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:06.320
of being the shooter guy. But
he's leads. He leads a team and

698
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.239
assists. Right, He's been more
than just he's got to go to steals

699
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.719
too. He's been playing well.
So here's what he had to say about

700
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.559
Caleb Love. About Caleb real quick. He's done very well to this point,

701
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:20.079
and probably beyond what people thought because
they think he's the score. But

702
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.440
I think he'd be doing assists as
well. I mean, I mean,

703
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.039
you know, Caleb is one of
our better playmakers. And he's just a

704
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.800
really good basketball player, you know. And and I know he's a really

705
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.039
good shooter. You know. I
know, maybe he's three point numbers.

706
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:31.440
You know, people may not say
that, but I've shot with him in

707
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.320
the gym enough. I know what
good shooters look like, and and you

708
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.639
know, I'm pretty confident by the
end of the year his shooting numbers will

709
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.840
be pretty impressive. So just a
really good player. But you know,

710
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.039
he's still learning. I mean,
one of the great fun things about coaching

711
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:45.960
him. This is my you know'm
my first season coaching him, So I'm

712
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.199
learning him. He's learning how we
play a little bit, and uh,

713
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.760
you know, I I'm finding things
here and there that I think we can

714
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.079
help him with. And and he's
been really receptive, you know to maybe

715
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:59.519
changing some some habits and some techniques
here and there, and uh, you

716
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:00.440
know, which make said a lot
of fun when you're working with a guy

717
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.639
like that, you know, I
mean, I've really challenged him to contribute

718
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.079
to the game in other areas because
I'm just a firm believer if you if

719
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.440
you know, you try to participate
in all areas of the game that eventually

720
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:14.639
you know you're you're going to get
great numbers across the board and you're gonna

721
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.519
have a significant impact. So he's
done a great job with that. I

722
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.360
mean, I'm really happy with where
he's at. And you know, I

723
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.920
mean, I I think he's you
know, I think what I don't know,

724
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.039
a few games back or whatever it
was, he had a kind of

725
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.840
a four or five minute stretch where
he kind of exploded. I think I'll

726
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.320
have a few of those over the
course of the season. But I'm not

727
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.000
necessarily looking for that from him.
I'm looking for him to be a really

728
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:37.840
good, experienced, all around basketball
player that just makes good decisions possession by

729
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.239
possession, and he's he's doing that
for the most part. So I don't

730
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.159
think I've maybe have said this on
the air publicly, but I've said this

731
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.079
to a couple of people that I
think that if Arizona does really well,

732
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.119
it's going to be because of Caleb
Looke. It is the problem with that.

733
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.760
If he goes dead, this team
is in trouble. And I say

734
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.480
that, I'd say that very reluctantly
because I've already screwed up with the Philippe

735
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:04.079
comment from two months ago or whatever
it was. But uh, but they

736
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.320
rely on him to score, not
a lot, not a lot. But

737
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.880
he's a scorer. Well, he's
a he's a guy that when they need

738
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:15.000
a score, like we need one
now that he'll he's not and he's not

739
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.719
a friend. He's not afraid to
shoot. And you also see times when

740
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.119
he can feel or you can tell
that he can feel like Okay, we're

741
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.880
we're in a little bit of a
rut here. I've got to do something,

742
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.920
and he does, and he goes
after that and tries to do something.

743
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.519
But for my money, which means
nothing, it's a quarter and a

744
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:36.119
dollar or whatever. But I would
go to Boswell for a shot. That's

745
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.599
why I actually to go with did
you check? Yeah, of the percentages,

746
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:43.280
Caleb Love actually before get percentage,
he actually leads our team in points,

747
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:47.840
assists and steals and and percentage wise, he is shooting thirty nine percent

748
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.159
from the field, eighty one from
the line, and twenty eight point six

749
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.800
from three. Boswell, you're getting
fifty one from the field from the free

750
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.440
throw line has not missed this year
and fifty four from three, which is

751
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.679
so who you're going with? Yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna. But

752
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.159
what I do think, though,
is that you know, Colin Boswell was

753
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.599
gonna, He's gonna get get you
some points. But Caleb Love his his

754
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.840
aggressive aggressiveness and his fearlessness. You
know, he'll get you a bucket eight

755
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.320
different ways. But sometimes people,
Uh, the fearlessness is what scares me

756
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:27.599
because you don't know if it's a
good fearlessness or a bad feeling. Sometimes

757
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.400
being over aggressive is not a good
yeah or being yeah, you know you

758
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.559
try to do It's that whole thing
I'm trying to do too much or trying

759
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:37.280
you know when yeh. But but
I like the fact that he's come here

760
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:43.559
and found a place for himself,
uh you know, with within what they're

761
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:47.519
trying to do, and he he
might be the guy from game to game

762
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.280
or in a given game, but
you don't get a sense he's always trying

763
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:53.719
to be the guy. That's what
I was gonna bring up when you were

764
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:59.719
talking about how if he goes so
lifeless you speak on the core, then

765
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:01.320
you know the team will go the
same. But I actually think he's not

766
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.800
being relied on to score. He's
being relied on to create. I think

767
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.880
like the great shots for Boswell,
you know, driving kick, whatever it

768
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.239
is. And I think the daily
being with Tommy Lloyd is really helping him

769
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.519
be that complete player the time he
was talking about, because if you see

770
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.239
him at U n C, I
think he was relied on to be more

771
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.320
of a ball dominant player. But
here the ball is always moving, something's

772
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:30.400
always happening, and he's just Steve. I kind of sea, I kind

773
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:31.960
of disagree with you on the if
he goes dead, they go dead,

774
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:37.119
because he you know, I think
he can not have a great game and

775
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.239
they can still still be really good. Whereas last year if Azulas had a

776
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:46.039
terrible game, or if uh,
you know Cresa had a terrible game,

777
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.519
or you know something like that,
or the year before if Ben Matheron had

778
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.800
a terrible game or what it showed
and it really impacted the team. They

779
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:58.280
got so many guys I think that
a guy did not have a great game,

780
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.559
and and and it's not it affects
them, but not as much as

781
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.599
before. You go ahead and say
what you're gonna say, and then I'll

782
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.400
say what you Today's point. When
we played Duke, I mean, I'm

783
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.719
looking at his stats here and I
remember him having a slow game to start,

784
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.280
but he finished it really exactly.
He was three for ten from the

785
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.320
field, one for five from three, but he did have and he won

786
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:20.400
that game. Yeah, no,
no, no, I totally agree.

787
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.480
The thing about it. The thing
about it with him is that I think

788
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.719
that as the season goes on and
seven game is not a good sample,

789
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:31.519
So it's really it's not that you're
gonna see him be more ball dominant try

790
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:37.559
to score more and sometimes he shoots
those threes from way distance. Yeah,

791
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.480
yeah he does. Let's take this
quick call higher on the air and on

792
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:44.719
the ball. Yeah. I have
to say, Jay, you're right.

793
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:50.159
I think unlike the last couple of
seasons we only had a couple guys to

794
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.920
depend on, we got a lot
more than just Kyle and Bobswell and Love.

795
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:58.000
Wait, we can any night,
we can have four or five guys

796
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.239
scoring double gas. Okay, let
me put that to test. And that's

797
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.639
one of the things I was gonnail
j okay, both you guys. So

798
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:08.440
who you got from the perimeter outside
of without mentioning Boswell or or or Caleb

799
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:13.880
Love? Are you gonna go to
Are you gonna go to Johnson Patterson?

800
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:22.639
Who? Who? Okay, you're
gonna charge? Are you gonna trust yourself

801
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:29.239
with pillow? No? But I
mean okay, and we got some time

802
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.559
to cultivate the bench. We got
some a couple of months. I'm talking

803
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.800
about shooters the pimeter. I mean, come on, are you gonna go

804
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.360
get it? Are you gonna go
to bollow in crunch time? If you

805
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:43.199
have to get a foul? Okay, that's two. What about Crevs Crevis

806
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.639
or that other guy, the other
Mariska. See he can hit some flip,

807
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:52.719
can make them from the three.
Okay, okay, okay, okay,

808
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:53.639
same to you, J I mean, who are you gonna go to?

809
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.159
Oh yeah, I mean if you
need one basket, you need a

810
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.960
three pointer, you're gonna give you
You're gonna give it to your best shooter,

811
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:05.440
which is But I also but if
if Caleb Love takes the shot,

812
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.360
I don't have a problem with it. You do I because you have to.

813
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.039
You're gonna have to live and die
with him. And because you know,

814
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.960
you know, if they're coming out
of a timeout and they need a

815
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:19.840
three pointer, you opposing coach is
gonna blanket Colin Boswell. So you got

816
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.480
to have another guy. Well,
I think they're gonna try to do both.

817
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.840
I mean you need both the guys
in. Letsten pay attention if there's

818
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:30.079
those two are not in the game
together. Yeah, what happens? What

819
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.159
happens? Yeah? Good question,
No, really good question. But it

820
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.239
just seems like there's there's less drop
off whoever's in the line. Heyward,

821
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:46.880
those first, we thank Vinny Kevin. Okay, no, no, so

822
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.719
we'll pay attention to when they those
two guys, where's the scoring gonna come

823
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.880
to? Where it's come from?
But yeah, I see they have options,

824
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:59.599
is what I'm saying. They have
people options options. Well, that

825
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.679
means A Bradley's gonna have to step
up Bradley kJ Lewis, which which may

826
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.159
be the other guys. Howard's point, Pela Larson is shooting forty five percent

827
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:08.159
from the three round. How many
shucks has he taken? I don't know,

828
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.039
but he has been shooting a little
bit here and tell you some some

829
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.679
open spot ups. It's not it's
not a lot. It's not a lot.

830
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.719
He's five of five of eleven,
So that's that's not a lot.

831
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.199
That's not bad when you're when when
other guys are shooting more though, I

832
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.039
mean, he's making the open run. All right, let's take our break.

833
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When we come back, breaking news
at the top of the hour.

834
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She's on five. She's so hot.