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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't wanna go

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out there and get embarrassed on Monday
night football for everybody, I think this

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is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from yesterday.

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Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same thing

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for you that I had yesterday.
You know why I'm here. You play

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to win the game. You don't
play to just play it. That's a

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great thing about sports. You play
to win. I don't care if you

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don't have any wins. Do you
go play to win? When you start

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telling me it doesn't matter if you
retire, get out for the matters Thursday

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morning on Exues and Bros. We're
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Sheppard. Glad you're with us.
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The Meyer Hotline is always open for
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mind in the world of sports.
We want to talk about at eight six

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six, eight three eight forty eight
forty three. You can always text the

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program too. The text is sports
Radio to twenty one thousand. Tiger split

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a double dip with Pittsburgh yesterday.
You know that by now they shut out

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the Pirates eight zip. Matt Verlin
continues to rule man. He has been

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really impressive. Three run homer and
four RBIs in the first game. Turk

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Schooble more impressive, probably the most
impressive Tigers so far, No probably about

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it. He is incredible, improving
to seven and one, toss seven scoreless

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innings, allowed just three hits,
struck out eight. He is the odds

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on favorite from what I saw yesterday
to win the American League. Say young,

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long, long, long way to
go. But shows you what nationally

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people think of Trek's scouble, and
they should. He's got everything you could

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possibly want in his arsenal. So
he strikes out eight, scatters three hits,

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lasted seven innings through ninety three pitches. Couldn't help. But wonder a

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little bit how Tiger fans we're feeling
when Trek Scougle was pulled. Now Detroit

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had a comfortable lead, so it
probably didn't matter to you when they pulled

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him. It was ate nothing when
the game ended, it was ate nothing.

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But watching Baltimore a little bit last
night and you flip back and forth.

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Baltimore's really good. I really like
their team. But Corbyn Burns is

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pitching for the Baltimore Orioles, a
guy who I mean, he's got a

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solid track record. They're playing Boston
Division game and Corbyn Burns is out there,

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keeps himself in, talks himself into
staying in the game, and in

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the seventh inning and he through one
hundred eight pitches on the night he got

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the win. So he's five and
two, Baltimore gets the win. They're

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thirty five and nineteen. They're really
good. Gunner Henderson went yard yet again,

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so he ties the major league lead
in home runs. Who's got more

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home runs, Gunner Henderson or Aaron
Judge. Right, it's Gunner Henderson,

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the twenty two year old second round
pick out of high school. Now,

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before people start to go, see
that's why you should bring up Max Clark,

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Gunner Henderson, what he did in
the miners a little different. Okay,

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so you get some you get some
seasoning there. But Corman Burns talked

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himself into it, talked to his
manager, talked to his coaches. He's

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like, you know what, I
want to stay in this game. I'm

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in this game. People love that
stuff backfires, but I love it too.

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One hundred and eight pitches and we
make it sound like that's a huge

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deal when it never used to be. But it never used to be was

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a long long time ago. So
here's what I was thinking while I was

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watching this last night. We always
refer to the past with certain statistics that

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fit our narrative, but yet we
want to adapt to the new analytics and

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the various things that allow what we
think athletes or why we think athletes are

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better today than before. We really
want to have it both ways. And

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I don't think I don't think you're
alone in that, because I'll take myself

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up. I feel the same way
I do. But I hear this all

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the time. You know, guys
are bigger, stronger, faster. Yeah,

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okay, then why aren't they doing
Why aren't they doing what these guys

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used to do. I'm a little
confused at that. I'm a little confused

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at why we think today's athletes are
so much better, so much bigger,

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so much stronger. And by the
way, I do believe they I do

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believe they are, but they can't
do what some of those guys did in

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the past. I'll give you an
example. Mickey Lulich in nineteen seventy one

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started forty five games, one twenty
five of them and completed twenty nine.

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In other words, he completed more
games than most guys will start this year.

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That's impressive, don't you think.
Okay, well, Mickey Lolich's and

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he was a horse. There's no
doubt that he was one of the more

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durable pitchers you could find. But
when you look at his game log and

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you see not just the innings pitched, but the number of pitches, you'll

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be blown away at how often he
threw a hundred pitches in a game.

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It's amazing. And yet I'll rave
about Corbyn Burns, not to take anything

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away from Corbin Burns, because Corbyn
Burns was really impressive. He really was.

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You would want to see that out
of your picture, wouldn't you.

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Hell yeah, you would. Seth
Lugo Kansas City Royals. Here's a guy

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who I mean, not many people
thought he would be in the situation that

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he is in right now with Kansas
City. Not many people thought Kansas City

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would be for crying out loud.
I mean, Kansas City is a team

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that was dreadful, couldn't score a
year ago. They just beat Minnesota six

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to one. They banged out ten
hits. Bobby with Junior continues to do

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what he does. Salvador Perez finds
the fountain of youth Seth Lugo yesterday one

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hundred pitches in the victory over Minnesota. Now, it took him six innies

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to do it, but he got
to win. He's nine and one.

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I bring this up only to make
sure when you're having that conversation with your

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buddies and they're like, oh,
school is definitely going to get the cy

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young as of right now, bring
up Seth Lugo and how good he's been.

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And when you have that conversation with
your buddies and they say, well,

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you got to get him out of
there after ninety five pitches. I

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don't know many guys who would say
that, but you could have run into

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that conversation. Bring up Seth Lugo
one hundred pitches. Bring up Corbin Burns

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one hundred and eight pitches. It's
not that uncommon. Yes, unfortunately it

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now at Meyer LPGA Classic dot com. Chris, your team comes out pretty

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flat. You're down to nothing,
you don't have a shaw eight minutes in.

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What are you thinking on the bench
and what changed for your group?

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I was thinking it was going to
be long night and it didn't look very

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good. We you know, yeah, things weren't going our way. They

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looked much sharper making plays and I'm
not sure which line it was the kind

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of got things going. Obviously,
the big turning point was the McLeod goal,

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but you know, you know,
it wasn't the start. But you've

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seen this right through the series where
both teams have absolutely dominated and then the

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other team is dominated like it's been
back and forth, and you know,

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we didn't have our start, and
which is you know, hard to overcome

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because you know you're down to nothing
in a game like this, it's hard

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to overcome. But you know,
I think we just got back to where

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we were supposed to be playing.
You know, I think a lot of

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it had to do with maybe the
turnovers at the blue line where we weren't

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getting pucks in deeper and they were
just quick transition and then we're just,

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yeah, we're always in a bad
position for that next shift. That's Chris

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not Block, the head coach of
the Edmonton Oilers. This is his first

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playoffs because this is his first year. Actually one of the first changes among

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the NHL Caroseol earlier this year.
No Block, who was a junior's coach

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of Conor McDavid, goes to Edmonton. McDavid takes off, the Oilers take

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off and they're playing in the Western
Conference finals. Team things up last night

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for his team by making a few
lineup changes and it paid off as they

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win five to two. They scored
five on answer to nothing Dallas early on

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and you're thinking, oh, stars, better team, and here we go

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and they're going to go back home
up three games to one with a chance

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to close it out until Edmonton responded. And that's part of being a really

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good head coach, having a feel
for what your team needs in that type

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of situation, and it doesn't always
work out. But he made the changes.

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He felt it was really important.
He did say this. He says,

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there's not a decision I make without
consulting five to twelve people. He's

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got the final say, but he
does have to talk to his staff.

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He feels like that was important.
He said, last night, I was

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talking with Paul Coffee on the phone
and we decided what we wanted to do.

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Still hadn't made the decision that night. We made the decision this morning.

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That was in regards to some of
the changes. He reinserts Corey Perry

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and Ryan McLeod for Warren Fogel and
Sam Carrick. He brings in defenseman Philip

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Broberg for Vincent de Charnay. Bro
Berg had yet to play in the playoffs.

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That's a risky, gutsy move,
but it paid off. Connor McDavid,

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by the way, had three assists
now his twenty four in the playoffs.

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This is exactly could the NHL really
ask for anything more? Rangers Panthers

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three straight games, overtime series tied
to two, Dallas Edmonton a tug of

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war back and forth series tied to
two. Now, I know what a

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lot of people probably think. Man, the NHL really wants the Rangers and

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the Stars, two big markets,
two American based teams. A Canadian based

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team hasn't won the Cup since ninety
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might be the outlier there, Yeah, Toronto, that would be one thing

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I'm not saying the NHL would be
or the people who run their ratings would

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be thrilled with a team like Calgary, for example, making the finals.

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But you get Edmonton in there,
and you use the best player in the

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world as part of your marketing strategy, then you should be all right.

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With Connor McDavid, I didn't get
to the second game of the Tigers Pirates.

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Paul Skeen's was a dominant force for
Pittsburgh. They blow out Detroit ten

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to two. Skiens celebrates his twenty
second birthday by striking out nine and six

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innings. Andrew McCutcheon, who I've
always liked, I think he's a hell

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of a player. He's been a
hell of a pro over sixteen hundred career

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hits. Now, not that that
gets you in the Hall of Fame,

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because it doesn't, but think about
that for a moment. That's it's when

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you hear about the three one thousand
hit group, how long it would take

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to get three thousand hits. It's
it's simply amazing. Andrew McCutchen is now,

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he's still productive. If he's thirty
seven thirty seven, he's played sixteen

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years. Her his first year he
was a twenty two year old. That's

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you're in the major leagues at age
twenty two. That's pretty damn good,

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don't you think. Yeah, And
he hit two eighty six, so he's

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he's twenty two when he enters.
He's had a very productive career. For

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the most part, he has been
very healthy. Look at these games played,

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one hundred and fifty four, one
fifty eight, one fifty seven,

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one fifty seven, one forty six, one fifty seven, on and on

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and on. Right, I say, for the most part, dude's got

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over sixteen hundred hits. It's a
hell of an accomplishment. He's played sixteen

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years he's barely halfway there to three
thousand. He ain't getting three thousand.

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But Andrew McCutchen has been again one
of the better players I think of his

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generation. Gold Glover, four time
Silver Slugger, five time All Star.

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It's been an MVP again. Not
a Hall of Famer, but I've always

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liked him. He's got over sixteen
hundred career hits. He homered yesterday for

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his six one thousand, six hundredth
hit, and in each of Paul Skeene's

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starts, Andrew McCutchen has homered.
Kind of a unique figure there. So

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they went at ten to two,
and as I mentioned, Skeens was phenomenal.

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You want power pitchers, we get
all enamored with them, and rightfully

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so. Triple digits on a regular
basis, and a guy who he's going

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to be a force to be reckoned
with. He's a really good story.

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If you don't know about it,
check it out. Really good story.

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Transferring to LSU becoming the most outstanding
player in their national championship run. Seems

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like a really good kid. I
don't know him, haven't interviewed him,

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but how can you deny the stuff
took him a little longer. You know,

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he was a little I mean,
while the strike zone was there,

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ninety six pitches to get through six
trying to put guys away, seventy pitches

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were strikes. Gave up a home
run to Matt Vierling, who has homered

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in what four or five games.
It's incredible what Vierling's been doing lately,

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which goes to show, you know, now's the time right here where people

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are probably saying, look, this
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I said earlier. As much as
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I like him a lot. He's
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really good player at Notre Dame.
Tigers did a nice job in getting him

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from Philadelphia. Soto clements to Philly
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and Donnie Sands is in the miners
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organization. Mayton no idea. Cody
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trade work for both teams right for
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League's been, and he has been
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three. Would you take that from
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the rest of the year. You're
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and the Dodgers, you think you
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seven FM as well. Tigers split
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two over Dallas even their series and
the Western Conference Finals in the NBA will

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be taking place later on Today.
Minnesota will host Dallas, with the Mavericks

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up three to one. Again.
It's pretty cool to be a Dallas sports

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fan right now. They love to
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but their basketball and their hockey teams
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Unlike those who follow the New York
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yesterday and afterwards expected two if they
didn't already. It has not been confirmed,

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but the belief is they're going to
cut or hit Lopez because he was

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part of a contingent from the bullpen
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to three. Lopez came in and
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Otane and then on the next batter
it was Freddy Freeman. There's never really

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an easy out in that Dodgers lineup. Lopez had an argument with Ramon Dejeusu's

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who is a third base umpire and
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a possible strike. Lopez thought he
went around, they argued. Lopez was

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ejected. Lopez then threw his glove
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He would later say what I mean, why you say this? Who knows?

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I mean, just a complete idiot
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this team, it's the worst efing
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quote, worst team probably the whole
fing MLB. That's a guy who does

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not care, right who in their
right mind? Now we all get emotional.

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I got emotional yesterday and we had
a caller call in and say,

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Ship, do you need a hug? Right? I mean, yeah,

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it takes place every once in a
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I don't know if it was Jake
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it was, Freddie whatever, Dave. Anyway, we all get emotional.

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You want a cooling off period.
If you've ever umpired or refereed anything,

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if you ever coached anything. I
used to be a co I coached my

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kids in football when they were in
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seventh and eighth grade, and I
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season began the very first practice on
purpose, and I said, I would

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say to them, you may have
an issue with me at some point during

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the season, me and other members
of the coaching staff. All I ask

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you to do is give it a
beat, give it twenty four hours,

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think about it for a moment,
and then come and let's talk. Because

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I've been there, done that.
I can't say that I've always followed my

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own advice, but for the most
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I get it, you know.
So we all get emotional. Jorge Lopez

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having microphones in his face right away
after being ejected, having a glove thrown

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up in the stands, and coming
off reportedly what was a player's only meeting

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while their manager is talking to the
media. The players behind closed doors,

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reportedly called by Francisco Lindor media comes
in interviews Lopez, he still says something

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as stupid. That's what it is. It's flat out stupidity as that.

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Do you really think that will endure
you to that clubhouse, that organization,

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that fan base, or any other
team who may be in need of a

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reliever. Honestly, idiocy, It's
just flat out idiocy. I can't understand

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why in the world any But again, I get the whole emotion part.

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I really do. I can appreciate
it. We have all been in something

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similar regarding emotions. But this isn't
a Seinfeld episode. It's not where George

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is all ticked off because he can't
use the boss's bathroom, goes in and

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calls him a joke and gets fired
and then tries to come back the next

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day and say, you know what, you thought I was serious or after

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the weekend you thought I was serious. I wasn't serious. No, that's

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not the way it works, man. And here's the thing, Lopez.

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For the most part, I mean, he's been an effective player. There

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are certain attributes that you would probably
like to have coming out of your bullpen

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had some success. He's not as
good as Pablo Lopez from Minnesota as a

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starter, but Hore Lopez has had
a spell twenty twenty two, for example,

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where he's been pretty effective, used
pretty regularly, and could give you

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some decent innings. Not now,
who the hell's going to take a chance

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on a guy like this? Now
he's not so electric. Okay, he's

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not Josh Hater for crying out loud. He's not so electric. That makes

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you go, hmmm, yeah,
I'm gonna throw him a lifeline there,

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and it just boils over. I
suppose to do what that team is really

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dealing with. You're talking about a
three hundred and seven million dollar payroll and

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they've got twenty two wins. You
want some perspective for that. Oakland has

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a sixty four million dollar payroll.
They have more wins. Cincinnati has a

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one hundred two million dollar payroll.
They have twenty four They have more wins.

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Pittsburgh, who just left town with
a split against Detroit, has an

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eighty three million dollar payroll. They
have twenty six wins, four more than

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the Mets. Tampa's got twenty seven
wins. Their payroll is ninety eight million

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dollars compared to the Mets is three
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shouldn't be disappointed with where our team
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a I think that's fair. But
sometimes it's okay to put it in perspective

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and what the Mets are going through, and then what what the Mets have.

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Francisco Lindor. Somebody asked me this. I don't know if it was

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last week, but they asked me
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I said, I really like the
guy, really like him. He's having

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a terrible year that in two eleven
on base percentage of two seventy nine,

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slugging three seventy two h Those are
hard numbers to digest. League average for

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a team for a team, on
base percentage is a three to eleven,

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League average for a team slugging is
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Lindor's giving you a two seventy nine
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amount of money that he makes thirty
four million dollars. Starling Marte twenty one

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million bucks, Peter Alonso injured twenty
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Brandon Neimo's betten a Chris two to
fourteen man not a baby. Maybe

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it's the wrong statistic to focus on. Maybe it's very convenient that I use

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the low number because he has been
that disappointing. I'm just giving you some

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numbers to try and put it in
perspective for when we have our next Tigers

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disappointing discussion. And the Tigers are
in Boston tonight. It's the first of

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four against the Red Sox at Fenway
Park, and it is the first of

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a seven game road trip for the
Tigers. You'll hear this coming up a

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little bit later on in the Den. But every time I think of Boston

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and anytime I used to go there, and I would encourage anybody if you

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want to go to a really good
baseball park, if you are one of

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those folks. I got a friend
of mine at the gym. Every summer

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he takes his grandkids to different ballparks. So he and I are talking constantly,

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and he always says, you know, give me some ballparks. I

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really should take my kids too.
Depends on how far you want to go,

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but if you can, I mean
Fenway Park is worth it. It

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reeks of baseball. That's what you
want, right, for some reason,

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more than any other sport. You
go into a Bay baseball stadium and you

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want it to feel like baseball.
Football. We get that's all purpose.

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Hockey and basketball arenas, they're all
purpose. Even though concerts and other events

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oftentimes are played at baseball parks,
you still want the feel of a baseball

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stadium. Am I right? That's
how I at least that's what I want.

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Fenway Park gives you that, Chavez
Ravine Dodger Stadium gives you that,

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Kaufman Stadium in Kansas City gives you
that. Pittsburgh P and C Park gives

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you that. There are certain places
when you go you're like, this is

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what it's all about. I know
they've had an outdoor hockey game there.

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I know they've had a bull game
there. The point is, when you

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go into that ballpark, you feel
like you're in a baseball stadium. Yes,

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Wrigley Field is like that, absolutely, But I'm just telling you,

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if you get the chance, go
to Fenway Park. But when I think

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of Fenway, I immediately think of
Tiger Stadium. Now there's a lot of

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you listening to me who never went
to Tiger Stadium, and I feel bad

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for you. I do. It
was all baseball, man, it was

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for me. It was a bit
of a haven. I loved going there

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as a kid. Well. Tiger
Stadium and Fenway Park opened April twentieth,

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nineteen twelve. They opened on the
same day, and they were the oldest

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ballparks in baseball until nineteen ninety nine, when, of course, the last

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game was played between the Tigers and
the Royals in Detroit. One in dramatic

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fashion and wore the throwback uniforms and
Robert Fick hit a home run over the

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roof, and it was it was
magical, quite honestly, it was a

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magical night when the Tigers beat the
Royals that day, and when Tiger Stadium

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closed, it was emotional for a
lot of us. I always found it

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a prideful thing for Detroit and the
state of Michigan to have the oldest ballpark

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in the country, as a charter
member of the American Lake, an original

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charter member of the American League,
to have the oldest ballpark, to have

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it have the different names, Bennett, Navin, Tiger, all that stuff.

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It was. I just thought it
was fantastic, and it was something

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I used to brag about going around
the country. Nothing against Komerica Park.

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I do like co America Park.
It just doesn't have the same feel to

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me. Why that is, huh, you know probably age right. I

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mean for a lot of you young
people, Comerica Park is that you have

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that feel. I don't know for
me, if it's because of the Feriress

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Wheel or the Merry Go Round or
Big cac Cord or I don't know.

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I can't explain it. I just
know when you walked into Tiger Stadium,

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you smelled the grass. You went
in there, and just I can close

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my eyes and picture it now.
You walk up a ramp and when you

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see that ballpark, your heart just
opens and you get goosebumps. I never

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had that feel for Comerica anyway.
It was something that I thought was very

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prideful for Detroiter's the Tiger Stadium and
Femway Park with the oldest, and then

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of course Wrigley Field, and then
it's Dodger Stadium that's been around a long

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time. You can't get that back. That doesn't mean that they should have

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kept it. I mean, I
remember I was kind of on the warpath,

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saying I would like to see them
renovate it. I get why they

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moved where they moved, and it
makes a ton of sense for downtown Detroit,

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no question, totally get it.
Very convenient for visitors, very cool

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for fans, foot traffic and all
that other stuff. So I understand it.

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But Fenway Park is going to be
mecca or is mecca for people in

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Boston and people who watch baseball.
The thing about Fenway Park that ownership group

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committed to renovations. Again, different
scenario, it's a different situation. I'm

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not blaming the Tigers here for building
a new ballpark or taxpayers building a new

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ball park and having the team play
where it does. It's just that Boston

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chose to preserve what they felt was
special to their baseball fans, and they

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have renovated it so where it's still
even though it has that old school feel,

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it is still updated with the amenities
that you would want in a new

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ballpark, except for I mean,
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Call him on the Meyer hotline eight
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forty three. Football. Look,
we're closing in on every day a little

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bit closer to training camp. I
believe it's under one hundred days now and

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Pro Football Focus is a website up
subscribe to a really really appreciate the in

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depth numbers that they're able to provide
that leads to their analysis. Doesn't mean

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I always agree with it, but
they have reasons to back things up.

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They recently had an article about the
NFL roster rankings. Look at the entire

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roster. They label strengths, they
label weaknesses, and they recognize X factors

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just for the starting lineups. We're
not talking about depth, heer, We're

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talking about the eleven on offense,
the eleven on defense. I don't know

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if they bring in special teams.
It didn't seem like they did. But

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anyway, it can be a kind
of a misleading article only because we don't

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know what every team's starting lineup is
going to look like. Most of this

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is based off last season. So
Ben I would ask you this, who

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do you think are the top three
teams Pro Football Focus ranks as the most

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complete rosters starting rosters in the National
Football League for twenty twenty four. Oh

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wow, let's see, are the
Ravens one of them? The Ravens are

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not in the top three. Okay, I'll give you two more guesses.

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I'll say San Francisco, correct,
and wow, Kansas City? Right?

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All right, So San Francisco is
one. Shouldn't surprise this, they reached

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the Super Bowl a year ago,
but maybe a little surprising that they're one.

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Overall, they love their offense because
primarily they've got three guys who ranked

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in the top two in their position, Christian McCaffrey, Brandon Aiyuk and George

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00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:50.679
Kittle. Their weakness, they say, is their past protection. They have

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an X factor and it's a safety. Number two is Kansas City. You

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get that right? I mean crying
out loud. They've got but the Super

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Bowl ring on their hand, on
their fingers. They've got one of the

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best quarterbacks the game has seen in
Patrick Mahomes. They have the best tight

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end in Travis Kelcey. Their X
factor, though, is in a lot

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of trouble Raschi Rice, who can't
be that intelligent, not when you're getting

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in the trouble that he's gotten into
all kinds of legal troubles. Probably gonna

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land him a suspension, sure as
hell, should land him a suspension.

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They have a weakness thrown. It's
at the offensive tackle position, which to

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me is that's a significant weakness.
If you can't protect your guy, you're

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going to have some serious problems.
And I would guess that it should be

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downgraded from there. But because of
their championship belt that they'll carry into twenty

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twenty four, they're going to be
in the top three and their ranked number

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two, number three is Philadelphia.
Again, this is their offense and their

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defense is starting units. They give
them an X factor and they give them

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a rookie to watch. So,
for example, Philadelphia, the rookie is

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Cooper Cooper de John. Kansas City, their rookie to watch is if you're

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worthy. That's not that hard to
figure out for Grand out Loud anyway.

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So Philadelphia is number three. The
Jets are at number four. Now we

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told you this last week. It's
crazy to me. Look, their defense

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is awesome, but it's crazy to
me that people can think this highly of

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the New York Jets. Now,
maybe Aaron Rodgers makes that big a difference.

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They think the combination of what they
had led by Zach Wilson a year

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ago was that putrid and they still
won seven games, and Rogers can make

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that big a difference, and it's
one of the best quarterbacks of his area.

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I suppose he can, but he
is forty. You want to believe

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in him. That's great. To
put him at four is a little surprising

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to me. Again, biggest weakness
offensive line? Have you noticed something so

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far? The biggest weakness for three
of the top four teams has to do

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with offensive line. What was the
weakness for San Francisco pass protection? What's

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the weakness for Kansas City offensive tackle? What's the weakness? As I just

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read for the New York Jets offensive
line? They struggled to black people,

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they had injuries, but their offensive
line had the second worst overall grade in

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the league. They're number four.
Where do you think the Lions rank,

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ben, let's say six. You
are correct, okay, because just above

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them as the Baltimore Ravens who you
had mentioned, could be a top three

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And I understand why you would say
that. They had home field advantage in

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the AFC last year. So the
number one record in football with tie breakers,

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but the number one record, and
they took our business against Detroit pretty

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handily, didn't they? Damn right? They did. Pro Football Focus loves

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the Ravens ground game, don't like
their receivers. Then they come to the

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Lions. The Lions are at number
six, and here's what they write about

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their strength offense. You and I
who follow this team out a day to

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day and especially a Sunday to Sunday
basis, would be a little bit more

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specific than just offense, wouldn't we
We would say offensive line either way,

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offensive line included in it. And
here's what they write. Offensive coordinator Ben

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Johnson has worked magic these last two
seasons running Detroit's offense. The results have

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led to perhaps the best run the
Lions have had in the Super Bowl era,

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which is really sad to say.
The newly paid Jared Goff has been

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excellent, putting up an eighty four
point three passer grade while throwing for over

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forty five hundred yards thirty touchdowns during
the regular season. His top Pats catchers

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i'm on Ross Saint Brown and rookie
sensation Sam Laporta. Saint Brown was one

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of the best receivers in the NFL. His receiving grade last season trailed only

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Tyreek Hill and Brandon Au. As
for Laporta, his grade trailed only Kelsey

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Kittle TJ. Hockinson among tight ends. I said this when they traded TJ.

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Hockinson a couple of years ago.
He's a really, really good offensive

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player. He's not a complete offensive
player he was. He's a substandard blocker,

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but he can catch, and he
can run routes, and he's a

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threat. There's no doubt about that
anyway. It writes that you arguably have

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the most dynamic running back duo in
David Montgomery and Jamior Gibbs, both who

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had rushing grades of at least eighty
while rushing for at least nine hundred yards

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and ten tds a piece. The
offensive line is also a major strength.

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Oh thanks for finally getting to that, as all five projected starters heading into

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this season had a Pro Football Focused
grade of at least seven last year,

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led by Penney Stool's league leading ninety
two point eight mark. We get to

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their weakness and their X factor,
and perhaps just as important, if not

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more important, their over underwin total. Would you go over or under?

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What Pro Football Focus has to say
about the Lions in twenty twenty four That

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We're with you Monday through Friday six
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forty three. You could text us
Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. We

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were talking just before the break about
Pro Football Focus ranking the top teams or

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all teams based on starting lineups,
and where the Lions rank. They rank

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sixth. We told you what their
strengths were based on what Pro Football Focus

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is put together, it was their
offense. Their biggest weakness, according to

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PFF, was that the Lions had
one of the most productive offenses in the

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NFL. It often came as a
result of having to keep pace with your

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opponents. In other words, the
biggest weakness is outside cornerback. The lions

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forty eight point three team coverage grade
last season was third worst in the NFL.

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Now De Troy recognize this made it
a priority in the offseason, spent

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two draft picks on corners, traded
for Carlton Davis for the Buccaneers. They

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write, while on paper, this
team has certainly improved at the corner spot.

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They will be relying a lot on
young talent to step up try and

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take the next step in reaching the
franchise's first ever Super Bowl. That's a

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fair critique. You're asking an awful
lot of a couple of young players,

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specifically Terry On Arnold and Innosrakestraw.
What do you think there X factor is?

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The X factor? They write this
is a little surprising to me only

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because their biggest strength, as we
noted, was their offense. So the

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X factor they right is Jamison Williams. Look, I think he's it's going

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to be an important piece for Detroit. There's no question he'll stretch the field.

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You do have a few other guys
who'll be able to catch rocks for

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you. Kevin Zeitler is a pretty
big piece. Don't you think you lose

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Jonah Jackson to the Rams Zeitler's really
important. Does that make him the X

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factor? I don't know. I
mean, I think that's part of the

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discussion. Who's the opposite defense event
Marcus Davenport. You don't think that's a

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big X factor. Detroit's ability to
get to the quarterback opposite Aiden Hutchinson,

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somebody other than Aid Hutchinson it is
going to be really important. I think

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we all, including Pro Football Focus, in a lot of situations go to

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skill positions, which I just kind
of broke one of my rules, but

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because I hate it when they say
skill positions and I just said it,

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but because it takes a lot of
skill to play on the line too.

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Anyway, here's what they write about
their X factor with Jamison Williams. Outside

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of Saint Brown, the Lions are
very thin at the wide receiver position,

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especially after Josh Rend's departure. The
first round pick from twenty twenty two,

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Jamison Williams has shown flashes of being
able to be a playmaker in the league,

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but he hasn't been able to put
it all together for extended periods of

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time. He's entering year three,
so time is running out on him to

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become the impact player the Lions thought
he would be when they traded up for

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him. I do wonder if part
of the reason he's an X factor is

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because he's going into year three.
They write, However, if he reaches

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his potential, this already potent Lions
offense could become unstoppable. Well, that'd

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be fun the rookie to watch.
Pretty obvious, right. I mean it's

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Arnold and Rekestraw, both guys they
right should get the opportunities to play from

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day one. Rakestraw was a first
round talent that fell to the second due

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to core and groin injuries, while
Arnold was the top corner on a lot

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of teams boards that the Lions were
able to pick at twenty four. Both

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00:58:54.800 --> 00:59:02.920
corners are coming off positional flexibil and
can play each of the outside or the

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nickel, which would allow Brian Branch
to play safety full time. You're good

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with that, absolutely, I'd be
good with that too, as long as

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Brian Branch is on the field.
So I think he's a hell of a

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player. Here's where it gets interesting
and I would love to know and get

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your thoughts the over under. I
want to know what you think the over

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00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:39.039
under or are you taking the over
or the under for the Lions in twenty

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twenty four when Pro Football Focus gives
you drum roll ten and a half?

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Are you going over or are you
going under? Is their schedule in case

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you've forgotten, In case you haven't
done what so many people do. I've

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got a ton of friends as soon
as the schedule comes out print it right

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w or l next to it.
They were way off last year, by

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the way, But that's what a
lot of Lions fans. I'm sure a

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lot of football fans in every market
do this. You have the Rams at

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home, Tampa at home, Arizona
on the road, Seattle at home,

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Dallas on the road, Minnesota on
the road, Tennessee at home, green

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Bay on the road, Houston on
the road, Jacksonville home, Indie Road,

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home to Chicago, home to green
Bay, home to Buffalo at Chicago

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at Frisco. Sorry if I went
a little fast there, but I just

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wanted to remind you. I'm sure
you already had it. The over under

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at ten and a half. Here's
what they write. The Lions came so

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close to reaching the franchise's first Super
Bowl last season before a late game collapse

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doomed them against the Niners. They
year they're making a real run for it.

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On paper, this might be the
best Lions team of the Super Bowl

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era. I would agree with that. With the rise of Jordan Love Green

614
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Bay, the Bears youth movement,
and the Vikings potentially high flying offense,

615
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the NFC North is going to be
much tougher than it was in twenty twenty

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three. However, the Lions appear
to have a firepower to hold them off

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as they search for back to back
division titles for the first time in franchise

618
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history. Again, that is very
sobering, isn't it, my goodness?

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And then they list the starters.
I don't think there's much of a weakness

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outside of maybe your third wide receiver
in Khalif Raymond on offense. On defense,

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You're gonna have to sell me a
little bit more on Marcus Davenport.

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Sorry, it's really important. I
think they need another defensive lineman. That's

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just me. Is it enough to
sway you one way or the other for

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ten and a half? Because that
ten and a half is the over under

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your thoughts on that? The Meyer
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We'll get to your phone calls,
we'll get to your texts. I

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think it's a really cool exercise.
Here. Here's another thing that surprises me

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a little bit. They also rank
the top three players per team. Who

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would you say the Lions top three
players are? Because I disagree with their

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version of the top three. So
we'll get to that when we come back.

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Looking forward to the phone calls,
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do every Monday through Friday, six
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Pro Football Focus the projected starting to
line up. Are you in on the

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over the under that they give the
Lions ten and a half? Also their

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top three players according to Pro Football
Focus, which personally I disagree with.

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We'll get to that coming up as
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Eight sixty six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. Doesn't have to

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be anything necessarily that we're talking about. If there's something else that's on your

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mind and you want to discuss it, that's where we're here. Okay,

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this shows your show as much as
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to those full lines. Ben.
Who do we got? Yeah, we

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got Jake and Grand Rapids. Hi, Jake, how are you today?

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Thanks for listening in Grand Rapids on
ninety six point one FM. The game.

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Yeah, doing well? How about
stuff? All right? Yeah,

682
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:30.599
so just a couple of quick thoughts, especially in the over under and the

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X factor. I mean, I
think Jameis and Williams is post for a

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01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:40.400
breakout without Reynolds being there. But
like you said, we haven't seen him

685
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:44.639
put it all together. You saw
flashes like in the Saints game on the

686
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road last year and the championship game, but for some of these guys,

687
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it's I feel like it might be
hard to see a full picture just because

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01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:58.480
there's so many mouths defeat. I
mean, basically, anybody in the offense

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01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:02.360
did have really good games and other
games. That's other players, you know,

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01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:09.519
with Gibbs, Monty Laporta, all
those guys, and hopefully Donovan people

691
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:15.840
Jones can also be included in that. I guess the but the over under

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I think I would take the over
just because you know they're playing only three

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outdoor games all year. I think
that's gonna be huge for them. And

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the two games or one of the
games that's on the road outside is against

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a rookie and Caleb Williams. I
know everybody's super high on them, and

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you know their new found offense,
but he's still a rookie, so that

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might be something where they can steal
one on the road. And you had

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said that the there's three top players. I might be a little bit off

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01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:55.279
from what other Lins fans would be, but I would go you know,

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first off would be Sewel, just
a monster. Obviously I'm in raw and

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01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:09.000
that I'd probably go Aiden Hutchinson over
Golf as my third top lion. Obviously

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01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:15.720
quarterbacks important, but I don't think
he's one of our you know, he's

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01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:20.039
probably top five, don't get me
wrong, but I'm not gonna say he's

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01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:27.439
one of our top three players per
se. Okay, it's interesting when you

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01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:33.800
said only three games against teams outdoors. Why do you think that? Why

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do you think that matters. I
mean, last year they opened up in

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Kansas City outdoors and won in Kansas
City, came home, lost indoors to

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Seattle. Granted they lost to Chicago, they lost at Green Bay. They

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lost to Dallas, and Dallas is
for all intensive purposes, if you'll bear

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01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:58.000
with me, all intensive purposes.
That's an indoor stadium. They've won outdoors.

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01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:03.279
They won at Carol right, so
I guess I'm a little they wanted

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01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:08.159
Denver. I'm a little confused why
that matters the outdoor indoor thing. Do

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you think this team is strictly built
for indoors? No, not necessarily,

714
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:17.119
but I think it plays to their
strengths more so than you know, all

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the outdoor games. I mean,
obviously they won those games, don't get

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01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:27.239
me wrong, But I think when
you're you know, throwing the ball and

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01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.840
perfect, you know, air conditioned
dome, rather than you know, you

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might have some inclement weather or you
know, kicking is a big thing.

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You know, don't want to get
off on a tangent. But I think

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the Baits kid over it with the
Michigan Panthers. I think I would definitely

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bring him into challenge badly. It's
just it kind of almost puts your mind

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at ease, like, oh,
we have an indoor game. Like I

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01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:57.239
don't know if that's just like Lions
of Old speaking, because like you said,

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01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:00.079
they did win a bunch of games
last year out. But I think

725
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.319
just kind of the offense. You
know, the offense is going to click

726
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.800
because of what I just said.
There's no in clement whether it's always going

727
01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:12.159
to be you know, perfect indoors. Yeah, I guess, yeah,

728
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.800
No, I get that. Do
you view this team more as a passing

729
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:18.199
team than a running team? See? I think it's an excellent running team

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01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:23.279
because it's built up front. Look
you and I I shouldn't say that me.

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01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:26.399
I don't know how you feel,
Jake. I'm a big believer in

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01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:30.000
building from from from down in the
trenches and then out. That's the way

733
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:33.439
this team has done it. And
when you are able to do that,

734
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:38.319
that means you can run the football, which helps you in clement weather.

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01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:42.159
I think that's the reason they're just
as good outside as they would be inside

736
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.640
it because their ability to have balance
on their offense and be able to run

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01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.399
run the football when they need to. Oh, yeah, for sure,

738
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:55.199
I think like you just said,
I mean you might have not trying to

739
01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:58.319
be a homer, but you might
have one of the top two or three

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offensive backfields the league. I mean, Monty and Gibbs showed you last year

741
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:05.600
what they can do together, and
Gibbs was hurt for three or two or

742
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:12.960
three games, and they both eclipsed
ninety or nine hundred yards rushing. So

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01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:16.760
I think doing it that way,
but you also still have am and Ra

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01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:20.520
Laporta, James and Williams gives out
of the backfield. Even Monty out of

745
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:28.479
the backfield is not as much as
a weapon as Gibbs is. But yeah,

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01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.119
you're gonna run behind your offensive line. That's what you built your offensive

747
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:33.920
line for, is to run through
the trenches, get that one yard you

748
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:39.079
need on fourth and one, et
cetera, et cetera. So yeah,

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01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:44.760
I do agree with that, But
also you have, you know, if

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01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:47.520
not the best slot receiver in the
game, one of the best slot receivers

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01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:51.159
in the game. And like we
already talked, hopefully Jamison Williams can take

752
01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:57.279
that next step and be that solid
number two like I you did with Debo

753
01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:01.760
a few years back, and then
he overtook uh Debo in some people's eyes.

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01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:05.720
So sure, okay, I just
I was just wondering about the and

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01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:09.159
thanks for the phone call. Really
appreciated, Jake. Have a great day,

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01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:13.920
I were. I just wonder about
the whole indoor outdoor thing. I

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01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.239
think that's a I think that's a
fallback for a lot of people, not

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01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:19.560
just you, but I think a
lot of people view indoors. Certain indoor

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01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:27.680
teams as strictly indoor their ability only
to play or their strength is playing indoors,

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01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:34.760
whereas teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore and
Cincinnati and Cleveland. I just mentioned

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01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:39.920
the whole afc North Chicago, Green
Bay. Oh boy, the thing if

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01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:43.800
you could play outdoors, that means
you could play indoors, right because look

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01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.720
at what look what's going on there, and look at how they can look

764
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:50.640
at how they can adjust. It's
going to be an easier adjustment for them.

765
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:55.279
It might be. I'm not going
to claim that it's not totally.

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01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:03.600
I just don't buy. I thinking, as a way to make yourself as

767
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:12.600
offensively potent as possible, you have
to be able to do both, and

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01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.600
a lot of it has to do
with adapting to certain conditions. And the

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01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:26.640
Lions can run the football. Chicago
is a pretty good example. Chicago lost

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01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:33.840
plenty of games outdoors, and they're
an outdoor team. They lost at home

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01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:38.279
to Green Bay, they lost to
Tampa, they lost to Kansas City,

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01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.359
they lost at home to Denver,
oh And, by the way, they

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01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:45.159
lost indoors too. They lost in
New Orleans, they lost in Minnesota,

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01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:50.239
they lost in LA. Maybe it's
a bad example. I'm just telling you.

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01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:57.039
Let's not get caught up in the
fact that Detroit's home is a dome,

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01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:05.520
and that means that they can not
function as well outside of a dome.

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01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:14.600
Because they can. That's why they're
a good football team, really good

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01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:17.760
football team. Back to the Meyer
hotline eighty six eight three eight forty eight

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01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:23.520
forty three Ben, who's up next? Yeah he had a go, But

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01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.960
I do have a text. It
says, this is back to the over

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01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.439
under. If rag Noow gets hurt, there's no way they are going over

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01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:39.319
ten wins. That's interesting. That
might lead one to believe that Texter believes

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01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:45.119
Frank Ragnow is one of their top
three players. Who do you think are

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01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:51.560
their top three players? Give me
the three guys you believe our top three.

785
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:59.319
This is hard to do for a
team that has as much balance as

786
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:02.560
the Lions. Jared Goff signed a
contract that's gonna pay him fifty million dollars

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01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:09.960
a year. You would hope he's
one of their top three players. Jake

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01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:15.640
and I were just talking about the
combo of Montgomery and Gibbs, one of

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01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:18.159
the best, if not the best, one two punch in the NFL.

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01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:28.840
Sam Brown, Laporta, Decker,
Glasgow, Ragnow, Zeitler, Sewel.

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There's your starters defensively, McNeil,
Reeder, Hutchinson, Davenport, Campbell,

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01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:46.640
An Sloney, Davis, Arnold,
Branch, Melafan, Wu Joseph Those are

793
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:56.520
your starters. Who are the top
three guys for me? I would say,

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01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:01.399
in not necessarily in disorder, Penny
Sewel, I'm on Ross Saint Brown.

795
01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:05.439
Although he relies on a guy to
get him the football to make him

796
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:09.880
the best, but I love what
he can do catching the football, making

797
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:12.640
guys miss and so on and so
forth. And I would say Frank Ragnow,

798
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:20.359
Aiden Hutchinson and Jared Goff are right
there with him. But I would

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01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:24.840
say, Frank Ragnow, I think
he's that important. I think he's that

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01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:29.399
good. Here's how I look at
it. This could be flawed logic.

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01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:33.640
Feel free to call me out if
you wish. Who is considered the best

802
01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:42.279
at their position with the Detroit Lions. Penna suel Is, I'm on,

803
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:51.600
I'm on Ross Saint Brown is Frank
ragnow when healthy is? If this is

804
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:56.119
with all due respect to Aiden Hutchinson, because I said he's right there.

805
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.439
But if you look at Aiden Hutchinson
and I think he's a really good player,

806
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:03.800
Okay, don't let's not just always
look at sacks, look at quarterback

807
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pressures, things of that nature.
Really important to take that into account,

808
01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:15.039
Okay, But defensive ends are measured
by sacks. T J. Watt,

809
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:24.760
Trey Hendrickson, Khalil Mack, Max
Crosby, Miles Garrett, Micah Parson's different

810
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:31.159
position, probably Montes Sweat. Those
are just some of the guys that probably

811
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:39.399
rank higher than Aiden Hutchinson. There's
not many wide receivers. I'm not saying

812
01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:44.439
he's the best. I'm just saying
there's not many wide receivers who are better

813
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:49.079
then I'm on Ross Saint Brown.
If I give you Tyreek Hill, if

814
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:53.439
I give you Ceedee Lamb, if
I give you a J. Brown,

815
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:59.039
Okay, this doesn't go much further
than that. I still think he's up

816
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:05.600
there and an offensive lineman standpoint,
there's no tackle better than penn A Suol

817
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:13.319
a year ago, and when Frank
Ragnow is healthy, the same can be

818
01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:16.359
made. Same argument can be made
for Detroit Center. There's my logic.

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Meyer hotline eight six eight three eighty
eight forty three. Back to those lines,

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Ben, Who's next? Yeah,
we got Mitchell and Kalama zoo Hey,

821
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.960
Mitchell, how are you man?
Heany good? Are you good?

822
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:35.000
What's on your mind today? I
just wanted to kind of bring up that

823
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:39.760
topic again about that into our outdoor. I think where a lot of people

824
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.760
get that from is just if you
just look at Goss Splits specifically just Gos

825
01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:48.199
you know, he just plays so
much better indoors. I don't think it's

826
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:51.439
like an attestment to the team,
because I think running the ball can be

827
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:55.560
done either way. I think if
you look at something like the Baltimore game

828
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:58.720
where we couldn't run the ball anymore
and we had to come back, you

829
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.199
know, I just a lot tougher
on goth outdoor than it is indoors.

830
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I think that's where that kind of
philosophy comes from, that having only three

831
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:12.439
outdoor games. Really helps the Lions
because that means Goth shouldn't have any issues

832
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:19.119
indoor as statistically and historically he's been
way better indoor than outdoor. Yeah,

833
01:20:19.119 --> 01:20:24.640
I think a lot of that has
to do with the temperature too. It's

834
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:29.640
not just outdoor. I think it's
more about specifically about a certain degree,

835
01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:33.199
right, So outdoors for example,
I don't know if this will surprise you

836
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:38.840
or not, probably not, but
outdoors he completed sixty four to a half

837
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:47.119
percent of his passes compared to sixty
nine percent indoors. Anything minus forty degrees

838
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:53.600
he struggled mightily. So I'm not
sure it's as much outdoors as it is

839
01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:59.279
the temperature in which you're playing.
So if you're playing green Bay in December

840
01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:04.880
and you're getting twenty degrees, yeah, I'm My belief is that a guy

841
01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:09.359
like Jordan Love and Green Bay are
probably going to have more success. I'm

842
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:12.600
not going to disagree with that.
They're more used to it. So I

843
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think it's a great point by you. I think any thanks for the phone

844
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:19.479
call. Appreciate it very much,
Mitchell. I think any quarterback playing indoors

845
01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:26.680
is going to be Any good quarterback
is going to benefit don't you You've got

846
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:32.359
those perfect conditions like Mitchell was referring
to. Would not disagree with that at

847
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:43.319
all. I just think we fall
into a trap in sports where we think

848
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:50.359
that certain players or certain teams cannot
play because they're so used to one way

849
01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:57.920
or the other. Put it in
perspective, Jordan Love a little more used

850
01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:01.479
to it now, remember Jordan Love
maybe a little bit more used to it

851
01:22:01.479 --> 01:22:04.159
because he played at Utah State.
I'm not sure how much that should matter,

852
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:09.119
because you would think Tom Brady would
get used to it, you know,

853
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:12.359
playing at the University of Michigan.
But he was from California. But

854
01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:15.880
he thrivednia at Michigan. He thrived
in New England and in bad weather situations

855
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:21.960
all the time. Jordan Love,
conversely, of what Mitchell was referring to

856
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with Jared Goff and I brought up
specifically under forty degrees, where he struggled

857
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mightily. Jordan Love completed sixty eight
percent of his passes compared to fifty seven

858
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percent when the temper temperature was forty
degrees or below. That tells you something.

859
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:46.880
He's also more you know, used
to it. But that's part of

860
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.479
the reason you believe that GoF struggles. The numbers are there and he's not

861
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:55.039
quite as used to it. That
would be a factor for just about anybody

862
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types of conditions. Good call Meyer Hotlines

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detain. At the time we weren't
good. There's no sense asking me things

899
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going to break it down for you. He sucks, He sucked, but

901
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he laid an egg. That's all
I have to say. Guys, I'm

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sorry. I'm not going to break
it down for you. Nothing went well

903
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Honored to be with you on this
Thursday. I'm Matt Sheppard the Meyer Hotline

914
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:11.199
eight sixty six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. Ben is our producer.

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You can text him Sports Radio to
twenty one thousand as well if you

916
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missed it. The Tigers split two
with the Pirates yesterday. The opener went

917
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:24.279
to Tarrek School in Detroit and an
eight to nothing blow out. Matt Vierling's

918
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:29.600
three run homer and four RBIs the
difference. Schooble toss seven scoreless innings,

919
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:32.439
allowing just three hits, striking out
eight. He improved to seven and one

920
01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:40.359
on the year. Seth Lugo of
Kansas City is better so far, has

921
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.600
put together a better season, I
should say, because he's nine to one

922
01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:46.680
with a one point seven to ninety
RA after Kansas City one again yesterday they

923
01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:53.479
beat Minnesota Bobby Witt Junior Salvador Perez. I saw something on social media where

924
01:27:53.479 --> 01:28:00.399
people were kind of taking their shots
at Salvador Perez. I thought to myself,

925
01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:05.079
Look, social media is the thing
now. I totally understand where you

926
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:08.640
know, it's where so many people
get their news. It's where so many

927
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:15.199
people get their information. Whether it's
reliable or not, I'm not so sure.

928
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:24.840
It's also just a way to just
spew despise, discuss meanness, sad

929
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:32.760
commentary, personal purgatory if you will, and people take a chance at Salvador

930
01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:38.720
Perez. Look, I don't care
whether or not you believe the guy who's

931
01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:43.640
thirty four, Oh he's probably older
than I don't Who care? The dude

932
01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:53.079
is good. Ask yourself this thirty
four or older. Would you take a

933
01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:56.720
guy who's betting three twenty five,
having the three eighty six OBP and a

934
01:28:56.760 --> 01:29:02.239
slug of five thirty seven, absolutely
hits another homer yesterday, He's got ten,

935
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:08.000
he goes two for four, He's
thirty four and Batton's second in the

936
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:13.399
lineup for a team there is thirty
five and twenty two on the year,

937
01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:19.479
for a team that is arguably the
biggest surprise in baseball, and six just

938
01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:27.159
two and a half out thirteen games
over five hundred. A team that was

939
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:35.399
last year, this Kansas City team, even though it had Bobby Witt Junior,

940
01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:43.560
Vinnie Pascatino, Salvador Perez, they
were still minus one eighty three in

941
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:47.439
the run differential. I use that
number a lot. It's important the run

942
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:54.680
differential. This year, Kansas City
is a plus eighty one. Nobody in

943
01:29:54.680 --> 01:30:00.800
the division is better. Nobody in
the American League Central Division is better.

944
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:05.239
In fact, only one team in
the American League is better in that category.

945
01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:11.439
That's the New York Yankees. Baltimore
is not better, Cleveland's not better,

946
01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:18.640
Texas isn't better. Very strange,
Texas is just a plus one in

947
01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:24.279
run differential, the team that leads
the division, the AL West is a

948
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:32.640
minus Seattle. That's a hell of
an accomplishment. Anyway, I saw a

949
01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:38.079
lot of that on social media,
and I thought that's ridiculous. First of

950
01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:41.800
all, Salvopro is a really good
dude. Second of all, he's a

951
01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:47.239
hell of a player. And third
maybe you're just angry just for the sake

952
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:51.479
of being I ain't angry. I
don't know, but I'd take him on

953
01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:57.720
my team. He's gott a howitzer, handles the staff real well, and

954
01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:04.800
produces offensively. Folks, there's not
that many catchers in baseball who are the

955
01:31:04.840 --> 01:31:11.039
total package. You know what I
mean? You want a guy? Look,

956
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:15.079
we all gravitate back to the best
of our childhood or the best in

957
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:25.159
our favorite team's history. Is that
fair enough? Okay? So who's the

958
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.720
best the Tigers have ever had?
If you're old enough, you remember Bill

959
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:38.039
Freehan. If you're old enough,
you remember Lance Parrish. I suppose if

960
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:40.960
I'm Pudge, Rodriguez is in there
too. I see him more as a

961
01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:49.880
ranger. That's just me. Everybody
looks for a Salvador Perez an Adlie Rushman,

962
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:59.359
Will Smith at JT Rilamuto. I
think Jonah Him's a pretty good player

963
01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:03.600
for Texas. He's not having a
great offensive year so far. He was

964
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:09.119
originally committed to Michigan State, by
the way, but he was drafted and

965
01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:15.359
signed with the Rangers. I think
those three guys, those four guys Perez,

966
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:18.520
who does say Perez, Rushman,
Smith, Rila, Muto. For

967
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:24.279
sure, those four throw in throwing
him for me if you don't mind five

968
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:30.239
guys who can do it offensively and
defensively. It's the hardest position in the

969
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:34.920
in the game catcher. You don't
have that many great players who can do

970
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:43.199
both. Those are it. So
I'd take him every single day, and

971
01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:46.960
I would guess you would too.
Game two went to Pittsburgh Paul Skeins celebrating

972
01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:53.880
his twenty second birthday. He struck
out nine in six innings. Andrew McCutchen

973
01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:58.279
leaves the yard a home run.
He's homered in every Paul Scheme start.

974
01:32:59.399 --> 01:33:01.439
Matt Homer it again for Detroit,
so he's homered in three or four.

975
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:09.960
What was interesting, I thought,
there is that kider munter when anytime in

976
01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:13.640
baseball, if you've got a double
header, you got a twenty six man

977
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.560
roster, we know that, right, Okay, they expanded that a few

978
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:18.720
years ago. They expanded twenty six
mans rather than twenty five man roster.

979
01:33:19.319 --> 01:33:23.840
You have twenty six men, you
have thirteen bullpen or thirteen pitchers, thirteen

980
01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:28.920
position players when you have a double
header, so it's not to have quote

981
01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:32.800
unquote wear and tear on people.
You can add a twenty seventh player.

982
01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:41.079
So you're going to add a pitcher, now, why would you so?

983
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:45.920
For example, Jack Flaherty was originally
supposed to start one game of the doubleheader.

984
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:49.039
The way the series was set up, it was going to be Scoobal

985
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:56.439
and Flaherty against Jones and Schemes.
Then the rain out a couple of days

986
01:33:56.439 --> 01:34:01.279
ago, forcing a doubleheader yesterday.
Why not start Flaherty like you originally thought,

987
01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:05.159
instead of starting him today against Boston. My guess is, because you

988
01:34:05.359 --> 01:34:12.039
get a twenty seventh man in a
doubleheader, why not take advantage of it?

989
01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:15.880
So use a pitcher there, save
Flaherty, who's pitching Game one of

990
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the four game series against Boston tonight. What was interesting to me is that

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Kaider Montero is the one who was
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Toledo. He made his major League
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that surprises hip? What surprises me? Because they didn't call it Matt Manning.

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I would have guessed it would have
been Manning who would have come up

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like he had been all season long. His issue is in his five starts.

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The era is close to five.
AJ Hinch explained that. And we'll

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Every time I think of Boston,
I think of Fenway Park and Tiger Stadium.

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The two iconic parks open the same
day April twentieth, nineteen twelve.

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Unfortunately, Detroit's Cathedral closed in September
of nineteen ninety nine. While Boston's Baseball

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Meccha remains intact and is the oldest
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distinction for a while since the ownership
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it viable until at least twenty sixty
one. As much as I like Comerica

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Park, I missed the old stopping
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have a confession to make. I
got way too caught up in golf videos,

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like trying to improve golf videos,
and I don't mean you know guys

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01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:26.880
tying a rubber snake to a string
and put it on the back of somebody's

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01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:30.079
shirt and running around and making them
scared while they're getting ready to tee off.

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01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:33.520
Those are funny videos, for sure, but I can do without those.

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01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:38.520
I'm talking about the ones that try
to help your swing, help your

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01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:44.760
putting, help so many other things. Sometimes they get upset at myself because

1026
01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:49.560
it's not really helping my game.
My game us where it is. Unfortunately,

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01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:54.800
it's one of those sports where you
gotta play a lot. Welcome back

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01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:59.880
x'es and bros. By the way, this was making the rounds on social

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01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:08.840
Did anyone see what took place in
Washington Awk County? I think it was

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01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:15.560
mid May. I think it was
a couple of weeks ago. A dude

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01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:26.880
is supposed to be on a zoom
for getting his license reinstated. His lawyer

1032
01:38:26.920 --> 01:38:30.079
is at the courtroom talking before the
judge, and the judge says, has

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01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:34.199
he joined us yet? And she
said, he's about to your honor,

1034
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:42.840
and he jumps on zoom. The
driver or the person who's in trouble with

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01:38:42.920 --> 01:38:46.279
the law and says, I'm on
my way to the doctor. I'm just

1036
01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:54.960
pulling in right now, and he's
driving, and the judge says, wait

1037
01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:00.920
a minute, you're driving. In
other words, you're driving with a suspended

1038
01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:06.560
license. And he's trying to get
his license back. And what does he

1039
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:15.640
do. He shows up to the
virtual court hearing while driving. You wish

1040
01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:19.319
you could be making this stuff up. You would think it's almost a gaff

1041
01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:27.600
right, it's just a joke.
It's not. There's video and audio to

1042
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:32.680
support it, not to mention the
reaction of the judge and the reaction of

1043
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:39.760
the man who now loses his license
or the chance to regain his license for

1044
01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:46.359
a while. It's classic stuff.
Man. You think to yourself, how

1045
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:50.199
the hell can somebody think this is
a good idea? Honey, don't you

1046
01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:54.239
have a zoom call to try and
get your license back today? Yeah,

1047
01:39:54.279 --> 01:39:58.640
I'll do it while I'm driving to
the doctor's office. But doesn't that kind

1048
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:00.800
of defeat the purpose? Honey,
aren't you little word? Well, I'll

1049
01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:02.840
keep the camera off. I don't
know what he was thinking. He's not

1050
01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:10.600
thinking at all. We think there
are certain people in life who feel like

1051
01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:15.560
they are are privileged because of what
they do for a living or how much

1052
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:20.600
money they make. That's not always
the case. Sometimes there are people who

1053
01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:26.520
feel like they just can't touch,
they can't be touched, and even though

1054
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.600
they even though they have a hearing, a chance to get their license back,

1055
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:33.399
in all likelihood, it sure seemed
like he was going to get his

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01:40:33.479 --> 01:40:44.520
license back until the camera on the
dashboard of the car while he's driving clicks

1057
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:55.079
on. Oops. I think I
messed up there. It's awesome. We

1058
01:40:55.079 --> 01:40:59.720
were talking just before the break about
Matt Manney was the guy who was not

1059
01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:02.960
called up as the twenty seventh man. It was Kyder Montero, who is

1060
01:41:03.079 --> 01:41:09.479
viewed as a decent prospect in the
Tiger system. Manning has struggled. I

1061
01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:16.840
can't help but wonder I remember it
was a twenty nineteen seen Mies and Manning

1062
01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:25.439
and Schooble all in camp and hearing
so many different people try to guess who

1063
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:32.560
they think would be the best of
the bunch. There was no consensus in

1064
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:40.840
Lakeland with all these people baseball people
around. If you would say schoobl if

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01:41:40.880 --> 01:41:44.000
you would say Mice, if you
would say Manning, that's how close the

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01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:49.199
three were. This was going to
be what this team was built on.

1067
01:41:51.239 --> 01:42:01.760
These three hard throwing two of them
high draft picks, optional talents, young

1068
01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:06.880
talents, and don't take this the
wrong way. I'm not saying you give

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01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:12.920
up on Matt Manning, but I
would say this. He is twenty six

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01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:19.119
years old. Not that it's old, because it's not. But from a

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01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:25.880
major league standpoint, the clock is
ticking. He's only made fifty starts in

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01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:31.800
his major league career and he's twenty
six. He was a hell of an

1073
01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:38.439
athlete. He was gonna go play
basketball at Loyola Marrimount. Tigers signed him

1074
01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:47.039
ninth overall pick, first round,
and it just hasn't clicked. What's the

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01:42:47.079 --> 01:42:58.680
most wins you think he's had in
his major league career? Four? That

1076
01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:03.439
is? I hate the w or
bust not fair. Kid works hard,

1077
01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:10.359
which is no excuse. Everybody works
hard, man, I mean, at

1078
01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:15.199
least they're supposed to. Most people
are working hard to get to where they

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01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:18.640
want to get to at that level, is what I'm saying. It's one

1080
01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:24.520
of my favorite things when we interview
players' families. You know, how do

1081
01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:27.239
you feel in this moment? I'm
so proud of him because he's worked so

1082
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:31.039
hard. Yes, guess what,
there are other people work hard to It

1083
01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:38.920
doesn't mean that you can't be outworked. Just means you do work hard.

1084
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:44.880
But Matt Manning, it's just not
clicking for him. He's made five starts.

1085
01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:54.520
Who's that on. There's a combination
of people him, coaches, people

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01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:57.760
have got to be fixing him.
People got to got to be able to

1087
01:43:57.800 --> 01:44:03.680
help him along. He had options, So it's not a huge deal,

1088
01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:09.680
but there's going to be a point
in time, and it's coming quicker than

1089
01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:15.119
he may think where they have to
decide on what to do. That's not

1090
01:44:15.199 --> 01:44:23.399
the case for Javier Bias. We
talked yesterday about Scott Harris's interview on MLB

1091
01:44:23.479 --> 01:44:28.279
Network with Brian Kenny about the spending
of this team, and it lasted a

1092
01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:32.159
good hour and a half, almost
two hours. What we didn't get to

1093
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:42.039
was what he said about Hoavi or
Bias. Because so many people have suggested

1094
01:44:42.199 --> 01:44:50.319
eat the contract and move on.
I've repeatedly said it's seventy three million dollars.

1095
01:44:51.039 --> 01:44:58.560
That is a massive amount of money
to just chew up and burp out.

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01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:08.439
Scott Harris said, that's not a
question for right now. Right now

1097
01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:12.159
we are focused on trying to get
the most out of him. Okay,

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01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:16.760
I get that, and that's what
you should be doing. Here's the quote

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01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:23.279
that bothers me a little bit.
On the offensive side of the ball.

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Harris said, he's going through adjustments
right now. Do you know how many

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01:45:30.279 --> 01:45:40.399
times we've heard about Hobby or Bias
in Detroit making adjustments? And let's get

1102
01:45:40.399 --> 01:45:45.960
it straight, every player is making
adjustments. It's constant. It's one of

1103
01:45:46.000 --> 01:45:49.960
the beauties. But also the very
difficult parts about baseball is how many adjustments

1104
01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:55.239
you do have to make. But
howvier Bias has been here for three years.

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01:45:55.520 --> 01:46:01.279
Every single year, every year they
have said he's making some offensive adjustments

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01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:10.239
leg kick, stance, bat positioning, head, you name it. They

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01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:15.920
constantly talk about that. Just like
Matt Manning. It's going to come a

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01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:18.800
point in time where you just go, what more can we do? Think

1109
01:46:18.840 --> 01:46:21.880
about where he hits in the order. He's not at the top of the

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so we're talking about sports a lot, right. I was just mentioning

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today at Meyer Purty six. After
the hour Welcome Back. Talked a lot

1151
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about the Lions earlier today. If
you missed any of it, we'll put

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it on the podcast. Ben sends
it out on a daily basis. Pro

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Football Focus ranking Detroit's top three players
and ranking their starting unit. They have

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them down as number six in the
NFL. We disagree with that, but

1155
01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:17.159
that's what their numbers would tell you. San Francisco, Kansas City, Philadelphia

1156
01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:25.960
ahead of them are the top three
anyway, and their top three players according

1157
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to their Pro Football Focus Amon Ross, Saint Brown, Aiden Hutchinson, Penney

1158
01:50:30.640 --> 01:50:34.399
Seol not in any particular order,
just those three players. Mine were Seul

1159
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Brown and Ragnow with Hutchinson and golf
being right there. We were also talking

1160
01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:47.880
about the Tigers Matt Manning didn't get
the start in Game two as Kyder Montero

1161
01:50:48.039 --> 01:50:53.960
yesterday, as Detroit begins a four
game series in Boston and a seven game

1162
01:50:54.039 --> 01:50:58.520
road trip overall, and then we
were able to get to a little bit

1163
01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.720
about the hobby or bios comments made
by President Scott Harris the other day on

1164
01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:09.479
MLB Network, Harris continuing to say
that, well, Bias is going through

1165
01:51:09.520 --> 01:51:13.199
some adjustments. Offensively. They have
said that in each of his three years

1166
01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:15.119
here, not that Harris has said
it in each of the three years because

1167
01:51:15.119 --> 01:51:20.399
he hasn't been, but he said
he's on the other side of thirty right

1168
01:51:20.439 --> 01:51:26.720
now. Doesn't make him old.
Still has that fast twitch, still has

1169
01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:30.000
that athleticism. We have to find
a way to help him make some adjustments

1170
01:51:30.279 --> 01:51:34.600
to get back to barreling balls and
punishing mistakes like he did in a Cubs

1171
01:51:34.680 --> 01:51:42.439
uniform. That's great. Here is
part of the issue. Part of the

1172
01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:45.800
issue is in the Cubs uniform.
And he was good in twenty eighteen.

1173
01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:50.840
In twenty nineteen, that's a ways
back. Man. How come we haven't

1174
01:51:50.880 --> 01:52:00.000
been able to notice why he hasn't
gotten back to that form. What's prevailed

1175
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:03.960
him? That's the question, that's
the real question. What's preventing him from

1176
01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:11.039
getting to that form? What is
he doing now that he didn't do four

1177
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:17.279
or five years ago, Because that's
what his best season was, twenty eighteen.

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01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:23.680
Even if you had a Javier Bias
of twenty nineteen, you'd absolutely take

1179
01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:27.880
it to eighty one twenty nine bombs, eighty five stakes, no question.

1180
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:34.159
Remember they signed him after twenty twenty
one, when he led the league in

1181
01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:38.159
strikeouts with one hundred and eighty four. Oh, he also had thirty one

1182
01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:43.640
homers. He also had eighty seven
runs driven in. They would argue,

1183
01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:46.840
that's just three years gone by.
He is, he can get back to

1184
01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:51.520
that. But they're also the people
who just told you he's thirty years old,

1185
01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:59.600
which is an old but dot dot
dot Meyer Hotline eight sixty six eight

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three eight forty eight forty three.
You could text us. You text Sports

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Radio to twenty one thousand. I
know we got a text. What's what's

1188
01:53:05.359 --> 01:53:09.760
with the text? Yeah, it
says Manning is not a starter. He

1189
01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:15.439
can be and Andrew Miller. If
the right transfigures that out. Manning stalls

1190
01:53:15.560 --> 01:53:20.960
after the second time through a lineup. Yeah, I don't know. I

1191
01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:25.199
would have to look up. That's
that's insightful. I would have to look

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01:53:25.239 --> 01:53:30.439
up how many times he's actually had
the chance to get through second time in

1193
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the lineup. I wouldn't guess it's
very often. You're saying he's a bullpen

1194
01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:39.880
guy. Okay, I could see
that. Guys have made that, plenty

1195
01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:45.840
of guys that made that transition.
I don't think that is a bad thought

1196
01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:51.920
at all. Here's here's the only
thing I would say to that is he

1197
01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:58.119
doesn't throw so hard. Okay.
I mean he's ninety two ninety three.

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01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:00.640
I'm not saying I could stand in
there against it. I'm just saying he's

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ninety two ninety three. He doesn't
throw so hard that it makes you go.

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01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:13.399
He's absolutely a closer. My guess
is the Texter, it's well thought

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01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:16.000
out. The Texter is thinking he's
more of an Alex Fayato type player.

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01:54:16.079 --> 01:54:24.439
Right. Remember, Fayato was a
starter. Fayeto was the most outstanding player

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01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:30.000
in the World Series when he led
Florida to the World Series Championship, College

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World Series Championship. And now he's
a middle reliever that can have a negative

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01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:47.079
connotation associated with a cannon. You're
a middle reliever. In other words,

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01:54:47.159 --> 01:54:50.640
hey, you're not good enough to
be a closer and you're not good enough

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01:54:50.640 --> 01:54:56.640
to be a starter. I don't
think it shouldn't be negative. You are

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01:54:56.680 --> 01:55:00.680
important piece to the team. I
think the Texter's right. I mean,

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01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:09.159
I think that's worth a shot.
Now it does beg this question whose place

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01:55:09.199 --> 01:55:15.279
do you take? And I don't
think me nor the text are suggesting that

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01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:19.760
you do anything right now, per
se. But if we know he's not

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a starter, or we don't think
he is, so he's not going to

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take Jack Flaherty's place. He's not
taking Kent Tomata's place. He's not taking

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01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:35.039
Casey mies Rhee Solsen, Trek Scouobel. Right, he's not taking any other

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01:55:35.079 --> 01:55:39.600
places. You got to have some
lefties, at least that's what some people

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believe. I don't think that should
be the way it is at all in

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baseball. When the last time the
Astros won the World Series, they didn't

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have one lefty out of their bullpen, not one. They're alrighty's don't look

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01:55:55.039 --> 01:56:00.960
at righty lefty and then righty lefty
matchup. People complain about me being old

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01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:05.920
school, That is old school thinking. Can you get the reverse splitz?

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01:56:08.359 --> 01:56:13.399
Can a righty get a lefty out? Can a lefty get a righty out?

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01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:21.640
See, that's what makes a guy
like Andrew Chaffin rather attractive because of

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01:56:21.680 --> 01:56:28.960
the reverse splits. The same thing
with Tyler Holton or a Jason Foley.

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01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:34.479
So then, but it does beg
this question what would be who would be

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01:56:34.920 --> 01:56:43.800
your middle relief guys? So,
if it's Fayato right now, if it's

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01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:48.359
Will Vest, it's Joey Wentz,
it's Tyler Holton, it's Bowl Brisky.

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01:56:50.199 --> 01:56:59.520
Can Manning be the replacement to one
of those guys Andrew Chaffin. I'm sure

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01:57:00.039 --> 01:57:02.560
it's about what you throw, where
you throw it, and in what count

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01:57:02.640 --> 01:57:09.319
you can throw it. And that's
part of the problem for Matt Manning right

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01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:13.800
now. I don't even think it's
as much as him whether he's a starter

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01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:16.560
or not. I think the question
now is is he a major leaguer?

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01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:25.600
Folks. That's why when you talk
about draft picks and I get it where

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01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:31.279
you and I we don't watch enough
college baseball or high school baseball to recognize

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01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:36.800
whether a guy like Gunner Henderson who
came from high school is worth a second

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01:57:36.880 --> 01:57:43.199
round pick, or a Kevin McGonagall
who's worth a second round pick, or

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01:57:43.239 --> 01:57:46.840
a Max Clark is worth a first
round pick. Don't never watched Max Clark

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01:57:47.039 --> 01:57:54.319
in Indiana. Didn't watch him with
Team USA or Kevin McGonagall with Team USA,

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01:57:54.920 --> 01:57:58.720
or Gunner Henderson. You may have
watched Adlei Rushman. You may have

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01:57:58.800 --> 01:58:03.399
watched Spencer Torkelson. You may have
watched Casey Mais or Paul Skeins or Alex

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01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:08.600
Bragman or guys who did go to
college had high level of success. Maybe

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01:58:08.600 --> 01:58:14.800
you watch them one or two.
I don't know, but it's hard to

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01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:18.119
judge that Manning coming out of high
school takes a little more time, so

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01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:23.319
on and so forth than what do
you have, not sure first round pick.

1244
01:58:23.960 --> 01:58:30.399
That's why you draft as many pitchers
oftentimes as you can. Not saying

1245
01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:33.479
you take them over position players.
I'm just saying that's why there's a lot

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01:58:33.520 --> 01:58:41.279
of pitchers chosen because more oftentimes than
not guys, it's like quarterback guys are

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01:58:41.359 --> 01:58:48.680
not going to make it. You
and I both know going into this coming

1248
01:58:48.760 --> 01:58:56.680
football season this will probably be This
would be way too way too early,

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01:58:57.800 --> 01:59:05.479
right to judge the rookie quarterback class. But you and I would both agree

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01:59:05.600 --> 01:59:13.560
that you don't expect all of them
to make it right. You don't think

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01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:27.119
that Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels,
JJ McCarthy, Drake May, Michael Pennix,

1252
01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:34.960
and Bo Nicks are all going to
be successful, do you? From

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01:59:35.039 --> 01:59:45.079
nineteen ninety three through twenty twenty two, the extension rate for the first quarterback

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01:59:45.159 --> 01:59:51.840
drafted was fifty seven percent. The
second quarterback drafted, they got their extension

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01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:59.039
thirty five percent of the time,
the third quarterback drafted thirty one percent,

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01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:05.880
the fourth drafted or teen percent,
and so on. Now that doesn't sometimes

1257
02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:09.479
if you're the second quarterback draft of
but you may not have been a first

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02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:15.880
round draft pick. So that's kind
of unfair for this class. All I'm

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02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:21.319
suggesting is that you're not gonna You're
not gonna connect on all of them.

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02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:30.560
Paxton Lynch was a first round draft
pick. He was twenty sixth overall,

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02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:39.600
He's one in three. We could
go over as many failures as we do

1262
02:00:39.800 --> 02:00:47.239
success stories at the quarterback position.
JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, We could

1263
02:00:47.279 --> 02:00:53.359
go on and on and on,
Jake Locker, Johnny Manzel, Josh Rosen,

1264
02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:59.359
Dwayne Haskins, Tim Tebow. I
don't have to get too deep into

1265
02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:04.600
it, ej. Manuel Brandon Whedon, but we could do that Matt Liner.

1266
02:01:05.640 --> 02:01:10.439
Same thing with quarterbacks, or the
same thing with pictures. I should

1267
02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:15.680
say, there's first round picks out
there left and right who aren't making it.

1268
02:01:16.600 --> 02:01:25.199
Why aren't they making it? It's
not a universal reason. It just

1269
02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:30.640
happens, and it's the reason so
many teams eventually get in their draft room

1270
02:01:30.640 --> 02:01:35.239
and say, let's get ready not
to use every pick, but to use

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02:01:35.279 --> 02:01:45.880
a lot of picks on pictures.
If Casey Mice one to one doesn't make

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02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:51.520
it, if Matt Manning ninth overall
doesn't make it, are you going to

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02:01:51.600 --> 02:01:57.479
have the guys who you've used for
draft picks to try and take their place?

1274
02:01:57.520 --> 02:02:01.920
Well, Ty Madden be a guy
you figure might might be a starting

1275
02:02:01.960 --> 02:02:04.680
pitcher in this league for a long
time. I mean, it's it's kind

1276
02:02:04.680 --> 02:02:11.840
of crazy. Trek Scooble's ninth round
pick. A lot of that had to

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02:02:11.840 --> 02:02:16.760
do with where he was pitching and
the fact that he had Tommy John But

1278
02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:26.720
still, who would have guessed a
guy like that would would be over a

1279
02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:30.560
guy like Casey Mize, who pitched
in the SEC and was the first team

1280
02:02:30.600 --> 02:02:43.720
All American Trek Scooble wasn't that at
Seattle University. But that's the way it

1281
02:02:43.760 --> 02:02:49.640
works sometimes. In baseball, Meyer
hotline eighty six six eight three eight forty

1282
02:02:49.640 --> 02:02:55.680
eight forty three, and the text
line is sports radio to twenty one thousand.

1283
02:02:56.479 --> 02:02:59.840
Do appreciate it? The text today
they're always good ones always gets us

1284
02:02:59.840 --> 02:03:05.239
thing a little bit keeps us on
our toes, if you will. We

1285
02:03:05.640 --> 02:03:12.439
mentioned a little bit about the Edmonton
game last night, which was really entertaining,

1286
02:03:12.760 --> 02:03:15.239
and the fact that the NBA will
pick back up tonight Minnesota hosting Dallas

1287
02:03:15.279 --> 02:03:19.199
Game five of the Western Conference Finals, maps lead at three to one in

1288
02:03:19.319 --> 02:03:26.720
the series. It wasn't long ago
I read this story on the Pistons and

1289
02:03:26.800 --> 02:03:30.039
what they need to do and who
they should draft. I saw a mock

1290
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:44.000
draft yesterday that they had the shooter
from Tennessee connect going third overall, which

1291
02:03:44.079 --> 02:03:48.840
kind of bummed me out because I
was really hoping I would He would be

1292
02:03:48.880 --> 02:03:54.640
intriguing. He would be an intriguing
pick for me if I were the Pistons.

1293
02:03:55.079 --> 02:03:58.079
Yes, I know it's in need. I don't know how they're going

1294
02:03:58.119 --> 02:04:00.800
to work these guys out. I
don't know how they feel, like,

1295
02:04:00.880 --> 02:04:03.199
Okay, this is the best player
we've had in here for the workout,

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02:04:03.239 --> 02:04:10.800
so things could definitely change. But
connect was he's such a good shooter.

1297
02:04:12.279 --> 02:04:16.640
I can't help but think how much
that would improve Detroit if they keep that

1298
02:04:16.720 --> 02:04:27.039
pick. But I read this that
somebody was hoping that the Pistons would use

1299
02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:35.520
some of their salary cap freedom and
use it on some free agents. Right,

1300
02:04:35.640 --> 02:04:42.159
Okay, of course have to be
the right free agent. Who would

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02:04:42.159 --> 02:04:45.800
it be? Somebody suggested, and
I like this guy when he was here

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02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:53.880
before I did. Tobias Harris,
the really good dude. He's a really

1303
02:04:53.920 --> 02:05:05.279
good teammate at times. He's been
a really good player this year for Philadelphia.

1304
02:05:08.199 --> 02:05:11.960
Some would argue he helped lead them
to the playoffs, averaging seventeen points

1305
02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:20.000
per game. Okay, let's keep
this in perspective. Though he's going to

1306
02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:27.720
be thirty two, he's going to
make a boatload of money, and on

1307
02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:33.239
a really good team, he's averaging
seventeen a game. Would he be able

1308
02:05:33.279 --> 02:05:41.199
to do that with Detroit? For
me, the answer would be no.

1309
02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:43.960
Now you could say, well,
he's probably taken a lot of his shots

1310
02:05:43.960 --> 02:05:47.039
were taken away because of some of
the talent on his team, and the

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02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:57.479
Chuckers Seinfeld reference Keith Hernandez would be
that case would take away on this team.

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02:05:58.600 --> 02:06:04.319
He doesn't fix the issue of outside
shooting, but he also straps you

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02:06:04.520 --> 02:06:13.159
with the contract and with the AH. It's not the right time, in

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02:06:13.239 --> 02:06:16.439
my opinion, to back to a
guy just because he was really good for

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02:06:16.520 --> 02:06:26.319
you in his mid twenties, specifically
twenty seventeen. Just my thought. Maybe

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02:06:26.359 --> 02:06:30.159
we can talk more about that in
the coming days and next week. Dennis

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Fifthy and my buddy's going to be
in this chair tomorrow. We hope you

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