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Steve Raba and Jakin Sammans they have
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Sports Station, Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to ours the

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ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty
on Steve Peace, Jake, that would

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you have Noah with some breaking news
as I on the ball breaking news on

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Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Okay,
so I want to get into the air

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stuff first. Obviously it's more irrelevant. Jalen Harris was released by the Bears,

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yep. And this is like because
right around the time they're they're forced

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to, you know, cut the
rosters down in fifty three, which honestly,

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it does not that's not really a
lot obviously in an NFL season because

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you have so many players and a
lot of times if you if you make

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it the last cut, then you
get picked up, you know, for

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the practice squad and stuff like that. But Jalen Harris apparently at least early

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in the early in the preseason,
had done a lot of stuff that caught

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people's attention. It looked like he
was he was doing really well. So

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you know, he lasted till the
last cut. But I know, we'll

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see what happens with him. Probably
he'll make his So I was surprised well

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to hear that he was actually that
was doing well and there's doing well.

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He could probably land somewhere in the
practice. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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You know, we practice that he
might get you know, the Bears

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might still you know, keep him, or he can land on somebody else's

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practice squad. If he turned some
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yeah, we haven't heard about his
brother yet, I mean officially still nothing.

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Yeah, still he still love a
roster, I don't think. Yeah,

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all right, and then Raymond Polito
is starting at reich Car this weekend

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for the wildcast. All right,
but because he because his dad came on

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the show. Yeah right, the
second second freshman to do so in a

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couple he lost two years. But
obviously big imposing guy, big dude.

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You know a lot of times a
guy like that starts, you know,

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when they start as a freshman man. By the time they were junior and

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senior, they can just be beasts, you know that. I mean,

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that's kind of what's happened with Jordan
Morgan. Right. You know, guys,

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you know, a projected first round
draft pick, you start getting that

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kind of playing tim that early you
can you can go far and so good

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on Raymond Polido. I'll tell you
what I actually will be watching some of

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the you know, the lying play
on Saturday. See how Polido does.

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You see how Jordan Morgan does,
to see how Savenea does, you know,

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just to get a sense of because
that was the thing that was really

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caught my eye last year in the
NAU game, Arizona got pushed around by

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Nau and that was just like,
what the hell is going on out there?

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And that's again when we reel and
out last year two years ago,

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when we realize how bad it really
was. So it'll be something I'll be

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watching. And then, as Steve
told me, rob Waldrop is going to

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be the honorary captain. He played
in the nineties for Arizona. It wasn't

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all American, so he is Desert
swarm. He and Bruskie. Right,

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when'd you say yeah, I mean, if you if you say desert swarm,

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those are the two guys names come
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you go, you'll throw in Tony
Bowie, You'll throw in Brandon Sanders.

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But those are the two guys who
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and you talk about dudes that made
it work. Were the four guys you

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just mentioned Booie tough dude without really
looking to Sanders, who's a tough dude.

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I can use other words. You
just have tough dude, Rob,

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mean mean dude. Rob, who's
who's just a normal dude, but he's

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a mean dude. And Bruski who's
a normal dude but he's a tough dude.

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Yeah, you know, and it's
all equals tough dude. All those

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things added up to it. One
of the greatest defenses you know ever,

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just just missiles, just just dudes
that didn't want to lose. Again,

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who do we have on the show
who was talking about thirty yards a game

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rushings? Yeah, that will never
happen. I can't remember. It's not

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too long ago. Of course,
there's something recently. Can't remember. Come

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on, what's your name? He's
on the show that would have talked about

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that. Yeah, we'd have to
go back on the list. Okay,

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all right, and then some old
be stuff. So there's an incident that

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happened. It was yesterday, right, yea with last night basically like two

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fans. It's kind of hard to
happen, but two fans kind of rushed

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the field. They gets around the
quod junior. There's some secure or someone

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like trying to stop it, and
then he ends up just like getting tackled.

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So he knocked down and PA is
calling for players safety. So did

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you hear what I could have said, why it happened or what? He

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was kind of laughing afterwards, he
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wanted was a selfie. It was
that's the world we live in. But

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what the hell? Wow, those
guys got to spend the night in jail.

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We know that they had to be, and to them it was kind

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of like, Okay, that's the
price I'm gonna pay. I'll do it,

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but I'll tell you what you get
in a situation like that, you

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knock him down or whatever. The
next thing you know, you're you know,

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you're charged with a salt or anyone
of a number of things. There's

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something on the on the interweb again. Remember back in the day when the

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two the son and the dad went
on the field and beat up the first

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baseman or the coach. Yes,
yes, a few years ago, Yes,

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Yes, what the hell, I
know, I know, I know,

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I know, it's it's it's scary
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get you know, I know there's
all the security and you're you're pretty confident

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that nobody's brought a weapon into the
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the game and stuff like that,
but you just don't know, you know.

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And people were comparing it. I
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this on Dan Patrick this morning.
He said it was one thing like remember

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back in the seventies, Uh Morgano
would run on the field and run out

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there, and she'd go, you
know, just run out there, kiss

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a player and and run. Said
that that this is way different from that,

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right, And you know, I
get it. These guys wanted a

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selfie and they're gonna, you know, whatever, do whatever they were gonna

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do with that, but you can't
do that. And then this day and

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time, you can't do that.
And uh, you know, there was

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a long discussion of you know that
they felt like the security guys got too

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rough with these guys. I'm like, there's no such thing when that happened,

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there's no such thing. Exactly.
You do that, you pay,

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you pay the price, good luck
with that. Yeah, but it's find

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because they said they put up a
pole saying did they use too much force

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or not? And at one point
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one hundred percent said they did not
use too much force. I mean it's

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basically like trespassing, So it really
is plus on top of that, you're

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talking about a guy who makes millions
of millions of dollars. If you're putting

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his health at risk by doing something
stupid, what if what if they have

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knocked him down, blew out his
knee or whatever. Yeah, without questions

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like well, like you were saying, yeah, like just because they don't

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have weapons, you could you like
can say you even guarantee there's no weapons,

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doesn't mean he can't get hurt,
right, Well, they knocked him.

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I think he felt. Yeah,
they knocked him down. Yeah,

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even though it's kind of soft,
but still, I mean it could have

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twisted, yeah exactly. I mean, like the fact there's like three people,

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his ankle could have easily gotten stuck
like that. That's not any number

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of things. Yeah. Absolutely,
So the Colts have announced they're not trading

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Jonathan Taylor. He's still in the
pupulist because because nobody wants him, or

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because he couldn't find a trade.
I always get a trade that the Colts

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mean, I always get confused because
like he has Asian whatever's doing that.

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But aren't the Colts kind of filtering? Like aren't they kind of coming up

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with their own trades? And it's
like these are kind of your options because

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like he's trying to find something.
Do they really trust that he's going to

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find something that they haven't seen before? That's gonna like allow them? Right?

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I mean, in the end,
the Colts got to decide whether they

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want to accept a trade for him
or not. Yeah, and you see

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that. I mean, like I
don't know why they trade him, But

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the Stack came out saying, like
every single player in the Colts roster is

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under the age of thirty, like
they have Yeah, they're so they're super

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young. So I don't know why
they'd trade something like that anyway, you

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kay, Bobby? Is he still? I don't know who should ask check

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on him? I've got a cell
phone number, all right? And then

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the Patriots are releasing They've released both
their backup quarterbacks, so Bailey's Appy and

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Cunningham. So now Mac Jones right
now, as of right now is the

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only QB on the roster. What
Yeah, So that's that's that's what are

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they doing. There's so many people
out there. Who's that one guy on

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the Cowboys that they said they would
release? Yeah? Whatever had you know,

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he had, he had the best, he had the best camp of

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anybody. And you got you gotta
asks because they got the Cowboys went and

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got trade Lance. So I mean, we'll there's plenty of guys out there

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there. Yeah, but you gotta
have Wow, they've got another week,

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white White title, George Blanda.
So the it is, I forgot the

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deadline is today for fifty three men. I think it's yeah, four o'clock.

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Yeah, yeah, four o'clock.
Sometimes it's four o'clock somewhere. Yeah.

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So that's that's that's that. That's
kind of So I have one.

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I have one. This quiz for
both of you guys. If you guys

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can so college basketball, college basketball, sports basketball. You know, one

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of those big game boom stuff asked
the question the best college basketball not to

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make the Final four and basketball team
to not make it? No, no,

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no, best coach coach. Okay, So here's the here's I'm not

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gonna hint or anything. Give me
yours. Well for the longest time with

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Sean Miller, right right right,
I mean they still Sean Miller is still

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Sean Miller. Oh. And I
think this is a good choice because it's

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still not shun because it's no longer
or SNA. You'll kick yourself when I

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tell you. Uh oh, Rick
Rick Barnes, good choice, but no,

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Matt Paynter, Okay, yeah,
get your second. Yeah. Well,

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I mean again, Sean never got
to what three elite eights right two

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away from from me? And then
again I still I'm not gonna say,

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have nightmares. But when I think
of not getting in the final final four,

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because I think of the one shot
by yeah, the first one Connecticut.

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Yeah, him, I see him
because him and I didn't get I

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mean, you remember the camera angle
on the shot. It's perfect, It

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looked like it was straight on.
It looked like it was good. Nick

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Johnson's was right there on the rim. Yeah. Uh. And then you

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know that went awry. Yeah,
I pulled that, you did, I

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did, he did so. Yeah. But imagine had any one of those

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balls fallen, how the trajectory of
the everything were to change. Yeah,

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everything, the career of Sean Miller, right, a couple of a couple

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of basketball announcements. Evan Manning,
who is the son of the world famous

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Danny Manning nineteen eighty eight NC DOUBA
champion in Kansas, is the new director

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of basketball operations at Arizona. He
was where he was a Kansas before he

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was a Kansas station. There's ties
to Kansas. He I think he was

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one at Harvard for a bit,
young man obviously. Yeah. And then

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David Blatt, who has been a
long time basketball guy. He's been hired

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as a consultent. No, initially
was reported that he was on the staff.

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Now he's there's something that says he's
been he's now as a consultant,

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which is different or is that not
true either? Well, I cheer tweeted

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up that it's not something was not
true about it. I think it's more

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of a he and Lloyd or friends
our friends. So it might be a

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consultant or a information guy, you
know. Yeah, I don't know what

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the truth right In fact, what
I'm looking as a couple of days old.

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So maybe he maybe he hasn't been. Maybe I think he's just a

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name came up. They're friends because
of the international play stuff. Like that,

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Okay. John Kanzano had Kirk Kirk
Schultz, the Washington State President,

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on his show today and then that
he said that the plan a is still

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to rebuild the PAC twelve, if
you know, hopefully with the with the

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four teams that are left, but
could still be with with the two that

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was that was two o'clock today.
It was ever changing, but that they

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still want to try and do that. And I think it goes back to

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Steve we talked about. We're talking
about the money that the PAC twelve has.

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I heard the number now is that
there's fifty five million dollars of NC

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Double A tournament money that in the
in the pack that the PAC twelve has,

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and that if you leave the league
but the league survives, you don't

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get any of that money. That
the new teams that come into the conference

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get that money. But if the
league dissolves, then those teams get the

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money. Oh so there's some incentives. So there's some there's in fifty five

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million bucks. Let's say you go
get eight teams, say you go get

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eight Let's say you go get eight
teams and have a ten team league.

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You can offer them all, you
know, some of that money, you

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know, to pay off whatever they
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or whatever. It'll be the Mountain
West West, it would be. I

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mean, look, there aren't there
any teams that get it to the level

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that it was, right, That's
where the teams left, and that's and

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that's what the conversation is going to
be. Uh, what's today? Wednesday?

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I think today? Tuesday? Today, Tuesday? God isn't It's not

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Wednesday, Come on, Steve,
but it's I've been up way too long.

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But tomorrow is the meeting of the
of the of Conference Commissioners talking about

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the format for the twelve team conference
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able to make that you know,
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they're gonna do. You know you're
talking about Yeah, you you mentioned that

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at the beginning of the show,
how they didn't have the other meeting because

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of the uncle the uncreat right,
So so anyway, so it's it's yeah,

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but that that according to you know, Kenzano's tweeted this. He was

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on the show is on around the
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tweeted this out as what's what's going
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text from one of our guys who
calls Mike, who's you know, pretty

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smart, level headed. But do
you wonder if Dion took the University of

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Colorado job just to get his kids
in to start at the D one team

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and then he'll leave once the team
to to to your point, see what

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happens, right, Yeah, but
he's got four he's got two or three

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years. Yeah, he's got to
good for at least three years. Right,

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And maybe you're right, ma,
Look, I know that I stopped

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coaching baseball at when when when my
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coach softball. And I stopped coaching
softball when my daughter graduated, and then

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I stopped being a PA announcer when
my last kid graduated. You know,

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yeah, I mean, and maybe
you know, your record as a as

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a baseball coach as a coach not
great. We weren't very good the last

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you know, our last two years. We we just we we couldn't get

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guys to play. Wait, you
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don't know the number under I was
under five hundred, under four, because

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you come, we didn't make the
playoffs small school. Actually, I was

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like, I was on the staff
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the first year. I was an
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the last two years, and said, who used to college? Jim used

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to call us, what did you
coach with him? And the coach?

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Yeah? So I want to say, well, how could have a coach?

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Was it? Jim? Yeah?
That was all right? Okay,

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He's Jacob Sauce Now with us John
Peanut Rummer. You a football player when

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we were with him last week.
Ye then your last week we had our

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eye on the video I think at
the tailgate party. Thanks for inviting us

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for the food, brilliant. I
love it, guys. Glad to be

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here. Are you guys doing pretty
well? We're doing well. We'll do

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it well. We have to pick
your brain about a lot of different things.

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Uh, let's talk South Point too, because you're you're still connected.

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You look good. He's like two
forty good. Dude, looks like it's

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you look good on Saturday on Friday. Damn you. You look like you're

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in shape. Man. I'm in
some kind of shape. I'm definitely not

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fit, but uh, keeping the
weight down, trying to eat right,

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you know, get my steps in
that kind of stuff. I eat a

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lot of stress, so that helps. I need that. But John,

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let me ask you, because I
didn't follow you in high school, but

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I saw you here because we covered
you here both J and I in the

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late eighties, how did you look
physically compared to the big kid? Now

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that coming, that's going to be
coming to you. But he was impressive

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physically, Uh, boy, which
one Keona Elijah was just wow, Well

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you got to coming fantastic players.
They are miles and miles ahead of where

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I was back in those days.
I look at both these kids as being

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possible contributors right out of the gate. They're they're diligent and their study,

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their creative and their skill set.
You know, they really they come off

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the ball every time with a plan
and as an offensive lineman, you just

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hate that. You hate a guy
that's going to bring one of his four

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best moves every time. They don't
take plays off. And they're really,

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they're they're great kids. They're high
level competitors, and I think the U

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of A is so lucky to get
them. Yeah, and and you know,

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I mean we were there at the
start of that, and I mean

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you you knew which two guys we
were looking for, right, compared to

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compared to all the others, at
least I did. I'm like, okay,

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I don't even need to know their
numbers. It's those two guys right

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there. But you know, you
have to look back at a lot of

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things, right, you know,
the strength and conditioning program they have with

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with Carla Garrett and all that kind
of stuff. You know, I mean,

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there's really a lot of changes in
the way they're doing things. Now

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then, say when you were playing
in high school. Uh, it's a

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world apart from what we used to
do. But I think the thing that

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remains with South Point is a level
of expectation you put on the kids.

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We don't allow for a lot of
excuses. We you know, we certainly

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don't allow people to skip practice unless
they have a qualified reason. You know,

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there's a lot of pressure, not
just from the coaches, not just

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from the training staff, and not
the tradition of South Point, but among

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the players themselves. They hold each
other to a very high standard. And

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you know, there's a legacy of
winning at South Point. Uh. You

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know, you don't stack it up
just by state championships, but you know,

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I think the best the best football
program in southern Arizona. And it'd

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be hard to convince me otherwise.
At least in the past thirty to forty

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years. You've seen some point obviously
for a while now having graduated from there,

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can you can you put maybe a
list and you don't need to put

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them one through five or whatever,
but you've see some very very good talent

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they're coming out of their last five, six, seven years. A list

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of the kids, I mean,
you know, I would include my son

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in that list. You got Lathan
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Keona and Elijah I certainly belong on
that list. But that's the fun thing

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about it. When I talk to
these kids, and you know, maybe

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some of them aren't Power five kids, or maybe not even d one.

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What I tell him is, you
know, do you love football? I

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ask him, do you love football? Do you want to keep playing?

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And if you haven't gotten football out
of your system, there is somewhere in

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this country where there's a program for
you. It's hard to see when you're

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in Arizona because we have so few
schools compared to the Midwest, in the

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East and even California, But if
you want to keep playing football, there's

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a place for you. I mean, we've got kids in the Dakotas,

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Missouri, California, Arizona. You
know, we probably put out anywhere from

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three to eight kids who play at
the next level. They just they get

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a little lost in the headlines of
guys like Elijah and Kiona. But we

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take great pride and every kid that
moves on from South Point who continues his

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football career well, and as you
mentioned, one of those kids is your

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kid. And we saw some good
news come across on social media that Bruno

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has been tabbed to start this weekend. How do you feel about that?

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Well, I don't know if I
saw that, but I'm in direct communication

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with him since I am related that, I'm really excited for Bruno. He

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has worked his butt off. He
got to UCLA. I think he saw

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the video up on social media.
He was legitimately about two hundred and thirty

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five pounds and he is now closing
in or rate at three hundred. And

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let's put that in perspective. When
I got to the UFA, I was

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about two ten. When I left, I was about two eighty five.

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I didn't hit three hundred until it's
twenty three or twenty. We'll shoot no

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more like twenty four, twenty five
years old, and he's doing it at

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twenty one now. The scary thing
is his kid brother is even bigger now.

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The offensive line at South Point it's
pretty well stacked, so Roman is

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still trying to break his way into
the lineup and get some reps. But

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Roman is clocking in at about two
thirty five right now as a junior,

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So you know, nutrition and training, thinks to Carla Garrett and you know,

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good cooking at home. These kids
are getting bigger and stronger all over

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the country really, so it's fun
to watch. I'm super excited. We're

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gonna go h South Point plays at
Alamany Bishop on Friday night as one of

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the kind of Catholic school I don't
know, you don't call it an exchange

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program, but competition program. So
we'll be there and Friday night for Friday

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Night Lights and South Point Catholic and
then Saturday night at the at the Rose

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Bowl to see UCLA host Coastal Carolina. Well, I hope, I hope

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I didn't spoil a surprise that maybe
Bruno was going to call you on later,

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but that just came from the La
Times Ben Bolt, and the depth

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00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.559
chart got posted with the Bruno as
the starter at left tackle. Well,

407
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.759
you know what, I kind of
figured it was gonna be so since he's

408
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:47.240
been working with the ones for the
first and third group, with the other

409
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:51.480
guy working with the second group,
so I'm not shocked. I assumed it

410
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.759
was upwards of, you know,
two weeks ago, three weeks ago,

411
00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:02.839
if he didn't lose his position earlier. And uh, fall camp then he

412
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:04.799
wasn't going to lose it, you
know, the last two days. So

413
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.599
we talk about huge sports here all
the time and talk about the league.

414
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:12.200
Obviously, I still think, and
I don't know why this is, that

415
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:18.680
UCLA seems to be undersunderserved. Tell
me convinced me. Did a top five

416
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:26.720
team in this league? Wow?
And the Pack Pack something around the impact

417
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:32.160
whatever it is past whatever, you
know. Look, you take two games

418
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.480
last year, the UCLA loss that
they could have won, the Arizona game,

419
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.680
and the other one escapes to me
at the moment, and they're a

420
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:44.519
top two team right right. So
the competitive nature of i'll just call it

421
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:49.160
the West teams, that the Power
five West teams is such that a single

422
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.960
loss really hurts you. So I
think they finished five or six last year.

423
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.640
I don't. I try not to
look backwards too much, guys.

424
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:03.000
I try to look forward. The
big the big question marks for UCLA Ethan

425
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:08.599
Garber starting at quarterback right dtr for
what seems like nine years starter, losing

426
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:15.079
that amazing running back in Charbonnet.
So those are the two offensive positions that

427
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.319
really jump out at me. And
then when you look at the other side

428
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.200
of the ball, you know that
I've had concerns at the cornerback position,

429
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.799
a little bit at safety, but
mostly corner. They've got a lot to

430
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.039
at linebacker position. And this guy's
a monster. I mean, he's a

431
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:36.000
legitimate draft pick in the NFL.
So I think it's their cohesive and if

432
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.279
they game plan right, you know, there isn't a team they cannot beat.

433
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:42.519
Typically, when I ask kids,
I do it all the time,

434
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:47.480
who wins a who wins a football
game? And they want to talk about

435
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.920
points and this and that, and
I always say, you know what,

436
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.799
it's the team that makes the least
number of mistakes. Right and early,

437
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.519
early in the Chip Kelly era,
there were a lot of mistakes that cost

438
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.519
games or UCLA. But I think
those have been eliminated piece by piece over

439
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.200
the years. And if Ethan Garbs
can keep that tradition going, then I

440
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.039
think they have a chance to be
a top three team. Speaking of Chip,

441
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.680
have you met him? I have
met and tell us what you think

442
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.319
of him or what you what your
impression of him? Well, so that's

443
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.200
the problem, right, You see
somebody on TV, you see him in

444
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.799
an interview, and that's all you
really get. So you have these preconceived

445
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.160
notions about people, and I won't
lie, and I'll tell Chip to his

446
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.640
face. You know, watching him
on TV, he always seemed a little

447
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:41.079
I don't know if disengaged or putting
sort of aloof was the right expression.

448
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.759
But you sit down with that guy
and he is the most engaging, interesting

449
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.440
person. And what you really tell
when you've been around him enough, is

450
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:55.000
all he cares about is are the
kids. I mean, he just loves

451
00:30:55.079 --> 00:31:00.720
coaching. And I was completely flipped. You just can't know somebody until you

452
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:06.039
sit down and you know, have
the proverbial cup of coffee, and I

453
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.119
think Chip really delivers. Yeah,
okay, before we move on to the

454
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.480
next topic, I want you you
look forward and I invest in rear view

455
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:18.160
mirrors, just so you know.
That's fine. That's fine, that's what

456
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.240
you know. You you need that
perspective for your job. I don't need

457
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.240
it for mine. I'm ever the
optimist right in the new season A lot

458
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:27.759
of years gone. It's in the
book to me. Yeah, I'm a

459
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.440
grumpy guy. So now you have
the Arizona you're big Arizona fan as well.

460
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.480
What do you think about this this
year one and two? How was

461
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.079
it preparing for the first game as
a student athlete. All right, well,

462
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.000
let's unpack it first and foremost.
Right, if you look at the

463
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.559
starting lineup, the depth chart for
Arizona, you know, the thing that

464
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.920
pops out to you is they've really
really tried to fortify the defense with with

465
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:57.640
transfers. And you know, in
my opinion, defense you've got to have

466
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:05.240
defense in the coast D one teams. Arizona's struggled to get those big guys

467
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:09.039
in the front front six. Uh, it'll really depend on what they can

468
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:15.880
do in the trenches defensively if they're
going to have success. I like what

469
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:20.480
they've done. I think Jetfish has
done a marvelous job both with the transfer

470
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.240
portal and with recruiting. There's some
names in here they are very impressive that

471
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:29.440
did well last year. And you
know, I put them in the middle

472
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.279
of the pack with a chance to
threaten if they can, if they can

473
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:37.119
find their groove, and if they
can perform defensively. No, I think

474
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.000
that, you know, obviously,
that's that was their priority, you know,

475
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.000
all year long. But it's just
become that thing, right, it's

476
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.000
you know, it's it's not only
who do you have coming back, but

477
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:51.039
who did you go get that's played
somewhere else before, and that's become such

478
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.519
a big deal for college football,
well in basketball too. You know all

479
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.200
the sports. Who'd you get out
of the portal and what's that going to

480
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.359
do for you? Right? And
you can argue all day long and twice

481
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.880
on Sunday what you think of the
portal and whether it's good or whether it's

482
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.079
back. But it's here now,
so you know, I think the coaches

483
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:15.960
have done a terrific job capitalizing on
it. It's changed the way recruiting goes

484
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.000
obviously, right. You don't have
to go out as a Power five school

485
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:24.160
all the time and get those freshmen
coming in. You can look around at

486
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:30.960
maybe the MAC Conference or somebody that
sticks out from another smaller conference or even

487
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:35.359
another power five school. If you've
got a great graduate program that you can

488
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:40.559
pull somebody out of their for their
final years. I can't imagine what it

489
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:45.960
takes to manage that and manage the
gaps that you have and being able to

490
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:52.960
I guess self scout well enough to
understand what your priority needs are. And

491
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.640
then it's another thing. You know, you're looking into the face of the

492
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.240
kids that you've recruited and said,
we're bringing somebody in who's two years ahead

493
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:05.799
of you because we don't think you're
there, And then that kid decides if

494
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.000
he wants to go in the portal. So I mean it's I'd say it's

495
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.039
like chess, but it's more like
checkers. Right with gunfire. I mean

496
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.800
it's flying all around a million miles
an hour. Yeah, no question,

497
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.159
changing times. Let me go back
to your time back in the day.

498
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.679
You came in as a defensive lineman. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm

499
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.280
sure we've talked about this story before
you came. And then Dick teld me

500
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.559
decided, hey, let's movie to
the offense. Was there some resistance or

501
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.320
you just said whatever you want me
to do? Well, I was a

502
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:39.840
little shocked getting flipped from d line
to offensive line coming back from spring break.

503
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.639
You know, I really hadn't had
any conversations about that, and all

504
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.639
of a sudden, I went from
number ninety eight to number seventy. So

505
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.079
for me, I'm kind of a
you know, I'll do what you ask

506
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.599
me kind of guy as long as
you can convince me it makes a little

507
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:01.480
bit of sense. So my skill
set I wasn't going to run run down

508
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:07.719
anybody from a distance as slow week
and uncoordinated as I was, and apparently

509
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:13.679
in those days, that made you
an offensive alignment and we'll look it's done

510
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.480
for you. Yeah, yeah,
and that's fine. I'm a really I'm

511
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.360
really the type of person that wants
to embrace what's in front of me.

512
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.840
And I didn't have any control either, so you know, there was no

513
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:30.000
transfer portal then I wasn't going to
leave, so I just picked it up

514
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.760
and and said let's do it.
And uh, you know, just strive

515
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.559
to learn and develop as much as
you can. And you turned into the

516
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.079
guy you turned into. Thank you, John, you know, yes,

517
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:44.280
yes, the question earlier about you
know your first start, right, and

518
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:49.719
I imagine what's going through Bruno's head
right now, and that that that first

519
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.559
week and you know you're going to
be a starter. Ye, your entire

520
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:58.280
playbook is going through your brain.
All all of the fear, uncertainty is

521
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.000
and doubt is piling up right.
And now, if you're prepared, if

522
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.039
you know what you're doing, you
know, after the first few snaps,

523
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.159
it goes away. The adrenaline takes
over, and it does get easier as

524
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:15.960
you go. But there's something incredible
about that excitement of I'm suiting up for

525
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.320
the first time and on the first
snap of the ball, I'm the guy,

526
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:25.480
and you know, and taking taking
Steve's rear view mirrors into place.

527
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:30.320
Right, in order to build your
own confidence, you got to look backwards

528
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.039
a little bit. How did I
prepare? How ready am I? Can

529
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.800
I do this? I can do
this. I'm working against high quality guys

530
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.239
every day. I just have to
go out and hone my craft. That

531
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.639
said one more last question if I
could. So, you're on the offensive

532
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.199
line playing for Arizona for all these
years, and who's the guy that said,

533
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:58.079
oh, crap, I gotta face
him? You mean defensively? Well,

534
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.320
I think Willie McGinnis at us SEE
was probably the biggest challenge that I

535
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:07.679
faced. He was he was one
hell of a player. Alonzo Spellman at

536
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.840
Ohio State, that was That was
a big game for me. That really

537
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.440
really helped me a lot with recruiting
and saying, wow, who's this guy

538
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:22.000
that neutralized a first round pick.
There was a kid at Miami I can't

539
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.079
think of his name right now.
We played against Miami and he was a

540
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:29.760
good football player, and that really
helped quite a bit. But by and

541
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.159
large. You know, the difference
now is everybody's a guy. Yeah.

542
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.400
When I played, you might have
a couple or three weeks off with somebody

543
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:44.840
who's not really terrific. But when
you get into Power five schools and add

544
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:50.159
the transfer portal, you cannot take
a playoff. Everybody's a beast. Yeah

545
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.440
right, No, Like you mentioned
at the beginning, how would you like

546
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:58.159
to go against a rushing every day
and you're a kid, You're you're a

547
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.880
kid, You're you're like six foot
and this guy's coming at you folding crap.

548
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:06.320
Well, you know, my son
will go against Elijah and Keona in

549
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:07.880
practice every day and he gets a
little frustrated, and I said, look,

550
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.800
it's not going to get any harder
than this. So you've seen the

551
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.800
best of what's out there. Just
remember, you know, focus on one

552
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.079
thing that you can do well on
a play, whether it's your footwork or

553
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.960
your hand placement or something, because
I promise you he's gonna beat you.

554
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.639
And you know what he ought to
He ought to beat you every play.

555
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.719
I mean, that's why he's at
a Power five school. He's going to

556
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.800
the University of Arizona. These guys
are real deal. So don't get upset.

557
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.599
Just revert back to what does coach
Alex Rios teach me? An individual

558
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:45.079
drill every day at south Point,
and we are really lucky at south Point.

559
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.880
We have got a fantastic group of
offensive line coaches between Alex Rios and

560
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.400
Chris Lundean. I mean, these
guys are terrific. So just build build

561
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.199
on what you've worked on, take
those individual drills and apply them. You're

562
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.440
not gonna win, but you want
to do something a little bit better every

563
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:07.039
time. I want to pad up
right now, dude, let's go,

564
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:08.639
Baby, let's go. I want
to have a round it on. I

565
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:13.079
want to have a donut. Hey, thanks John. I was always good

566
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.480
to see you. We'll see you
again at another south Point game. Appreciate

567
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.360
it, John, Hey, thanks, so it's always good to be with

568
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.840
you doing good fun, good fun. Thank you. Very smart dude.

569
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.039
I like having John on the show
all the time. Let's go because we're

570
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.599
way over, yeah, yeah,
and we'll come back. Take your calls

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that's a lot of fun. It's crazy

653
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what this has become, right,
Steve. I mean, it's just like

654
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you think about. I mean,
I was just watching a clip from h

655
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during during the breakup. Somebody in
Fenway Park hitting a home run and Draft

656
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Kings is you know, is on
the on the big green Monster then on

657
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a big sign above above. I
was at a store today and you store

658
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today, and they knew I wasn't
had the book above. So he said

659
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to me, oh, man,
you know what, I missed out on

660
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a bet that would have paid him
thirty seven thousand. The on the golf

661
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.000
some dude and I didn't ask who
it was. He had like a ten

662
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.719
team party for ten and the one
guy failed to make the top twenty by

663
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.679
he finished twenty first. I mean, come on, it was like one

664
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.559
of those three things. Yeah,
that never happens to us. It never

665
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:13.400
helps because we don't do those But
I don't do those bets. Yeah,

666
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.320
so I bet I bet ten dollars
to win twenty yea. But but and

667
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:22.840
then you're pissed when it doesn't because
exactly again, it's Steve. It's about

668
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.639
the juice. It's not it's not
about the dollar amount. It's about the

669
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:30.679
juice. You've been juiced out.
I have been squeezed as It's definitely about

670
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.519
the dollar. About when you're a
kid, yeah yeah, when you're a

671
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.079
kid, well, well, when
you when you're you and you're trying to

672
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.400
like, you know, eat later
or whatever. I need. I need

673
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.280
this so I get what I'm saying. That's why I pretend i'm twenty one,

674
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:49.679
otherwise I can't do it. It's
right for god sad, what are

675
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:52.639
you talking about? You don't even
know what we're talking about. I don't

676
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:59.039
even know why I'm here because you're
trying to build your resume. Son,

677
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.880
you might be the radio one day
exactly, and you'll be able to support

678
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.880
us. Like it's right when I
turned twenty one, I'm gonna have all

679
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.360
this like experience, and then I'm
just gonna be like, I'm not gonna

680
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.800
be able to tell anyone works from
No, You're gonna say, Jay,

681
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.000
twenty one day, what do you
got today? Don't blame me for any

682
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.239
of it? Kay? What do
you got today? So I can go

683
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.920
the other way exactly? Did you
do? Not blame me for anything that

684
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.639
happens to you as a result of
what you got here unless it's good.

685
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.760
Unless it's good all right, and
then I'll give credits to Steve. Yes,

686
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.760
yeah, yes, thanks for thanks
for bringing me on. Kid.

687
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.880
Hey that was fun with John Fina. Yeah. Well he's always good,

688
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:38.360
Yeah, always good. I can
you know, I can see him,

689
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.159
you know, sitting down with his
kid saying okay, you know here,

690
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.519
here it is, and maybe he
will maybe he won't. I would imagine.

691
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.280
I mean, if I'm if I'm
Bruno Fina, I'm calling my dad

692
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.400
saying, hey, okay, Dad, what's this gonna be like? Yeah,

693
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.320
but after you tell them that you're
starting for the first time, Yeah,

694
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.360
I hope I didn't break the surprise, but you know he's gonna get

695
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.800
to home dad, guess what?
And yeah, already guys on the radio,

696
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.719
J broke it to me. But
that's very cool. You know.

697
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.400
Look, I mean he's done obviously, he's been there three years, right,

698
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.000
so you know, four four years, he's in his fourth year.

699
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.760
You know, he's obviously done the
work. Ben Bolts wrote that it's kind

700
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:21.639
of a surprise that that PHENI pasta
and he leaped over a senior. He's

701
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.880
and you know he's played, he's
played played, so you know that he's

702
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:30.199
a starter. He called it a
mild surprise, So I'm sure it wasn't

703
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.559
surprising to you when you asked him
about Chip Kelly, because he's kind of

704
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:38.559
this figment of somebody's imagination where he's
kind of different. Right, their public

705
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.880
persona is way different, and there's
a lot of people like, oh,

706
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.000
I was just gonna go there because
a lot of people are like that.

707
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.199
They said, well, you're not
the guy I thought you were because you're

708
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.920
kind of cool. Yeah, you
know the guy that we that I know

709
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.800
pretty well or you pretty well was. It was Luke. He was this

710
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:58.079
guy figure, right, can you
talk to him, can you approach him?

711
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.599
Blah blah blah. He was just
a dude who wanted to coach.

712
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:02.000
Yeah, all the other stuff he
had to do because he had to do

713
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.199
it right. And and he turned
up to he's a good guy. Yeah,

714
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.440
but you never really know because right, you know. And it's funny

715
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:13.440
because I I remember the first time
I got that sense of him and seeing

716
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.480
him in a casual situation. Was
that a dinner the first year I covered

717
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:23.840
basketball. And I've told the story
about how the and we weren't supposed to

718
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:28.960
do this, right, but the
lout would host a dinner for the media

719
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.039
on the last road trip, Okay, and yeah, and you know you're

720
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:36.280
not supposed to let them by dinner, but I wasn't gonna stop him,

721
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.960
right and uh and uh I didn't
know this. Yeah, and so Jack

722
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.239
record and I. Jack was covering
for the Citizen. I was covering it

723
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.639
for the Star, and I think
I don't know if there were any TV

724
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.960
guys on it. I think whoever
was covering for the Wildcat. We're in

725
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.960
LA and they were playing UCLA.
You're selling in USC and we went to

726
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:58.599
Marina del Rey at a place called
the warehouse that I've since, you know,

727
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.199
been to since, and it was
just a casual dinner and it was

728
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:05.719
all the players and it was loot
and it was Bobby. And I'm trying

729
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.360
to remember if who would have been
the idea at that time, would it

730
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:14.119
have been? I don't I don't
remember Cedric being there. Well, you

731
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.800
know, the coaching staff. It
was a big group at this. Yeah,

732
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.920
a really nice restaurant and Maria del
Ray and I saw him for the

733
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:23.320
first time. You know, he
ordered some wine. I saw what he

734
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:29.079
liked to eat. He ordered a
bunch of appetizers for everybody, and he

735
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.519
was like, he's kind of a
regular, you know. And now he's

736
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:35.599
he's got he's got the credit card, right, so, you know,

737
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.199
and that and that that's kind of
cool. But he just wanted everybody to

738
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:43.559
have a great time on this last
road trip and it was fun and I

739
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:49.039
saw him completely differently at that time
then I saw him other times. It's

740
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.000
funny because just people would find it
chemistrange because he's just a regular. Yeah,

741
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.199
of course, he guess. I
was in an elevator, had to

742
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:59.360
be early nineties and Bobby was in
there and I came in there and he

743
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.639
was running behind him and are you
doing okay? They were going to the

744
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.760
game. We're going to the game, and they said, you're doing okay.

745
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.079
He says, yeah, damn.
Well he didn't say damn. He

746
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.599
said, those one year contracts,
you gotta you gotta you know, as

747
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.760
good as you as good as you, right, you know how it was

748
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.199
because state law, you can only
do one year contracts, right, right,

749
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:21.360
Yeah, of course he was.
Who's you're not gonna say you're not

750
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:25.639
firing him, right, or you're
not you're not not resigning him, right?

751
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.920
But that was he always had some
kind of motivation. But you know,

752
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:31.760
but there's other guys like that.
But you know the guy, well,

753
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.960
here's one. The persona of Dick
Tommy off the field, it was

754
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:38.880
different on He was a hard guy
on the field, Oh yeah, but

755
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:43.800
people didn't see that. They saw
Dick Tommy the male manner kind of guy

756
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:47.039
who was very visible. But you
didn't know how he could go after somebody

757
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.920
on the field. I'll tell you
this because you know this. We've talked

758
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.280
about this a number of times.
How opposite he was after wins in the

759
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.239
office. Oh yeah, yeah,
because if he won, he didn't have

760
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.239
to explain anything to anybody. Right, he lost, he was you know,

761
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.480
he was apologized, he was he
was totally different. The things,

762
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.119
you know, went went wrong,
We just we got to do better.

763
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.519
So like that, he won a
game, he was cranky, Yeah,

764
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:13.880
he went, he'd be cranky.
He lost. He was sympathetic. Yeah,

765
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.239
which totally it made no sense.
It made zero. It made zero

766
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:21.599
sense to me about how he would
do that. I mean, he grabbed

767
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.000
a microphone. I was just thinking
about that, you know, and it

768
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:27.800
was after an Oregon game. But
the question was asked the question the first

769
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.320
you know, he he had done
his radio show. So we all get

770
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:35.159
up there and the first question is, uh, it wasn't pretty, but

771
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.679
a win's a win. He grabbed
the guy's microphone and told him to ask

772
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:45.199
the question over. I remember that
very much. So he was fine with

773
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.119
it. But he did do that. He didn't do that. No,

774
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:52.639
he was yeah and uh, and
it was a simple you knew where he

775
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.480
was going with a question. He
just didn't want it. He didn't like

776
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.719
it, and he didn't like it
that way because because that that's where I

777
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.199
heard for the first time, you
have any idea how hard it is to

778
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:05.320
win a football game, and he
talked about they said, you have no

779
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.840
idea, and that was his answer. Little little did we know? Those

780
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.280
games were common, right, those
hard to win, hard to wins games,

781
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.519
and he he felt like they had
achieved something by winning a game,

782
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.760
and because every game was hard to
win, and if somebody took it kind

783
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.519
of lightly, he took offense to
that. Then you have guys like Steve

784
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:24.440
Kerr who are who they are,
Yeah, you know, just dudes who

785
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:27.960
kind of just happy to be here, but are very good at what they

786
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.519
did, very intense. Yeah,
you know, I mean Steve was a

787
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:32.440
comparitor you talked about, you know
that he was the kid next door and

788
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:36.119
all that kind of stuff. I'll
tell you what, he had a competitive

789
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.039
streak on him that not a lot
of other people have, so much so

790
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:44.199
that he stood up to Michael Jordan
and said yeah and he got a fight.

791
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:49.440
Yeah, it was a lot of
fun. Thanks to Pat Nugent over

792
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:53.280
mikel Mountain High School football coach.
They've got another another big game up this

793
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:57.559
weekend. And then John Feeno,
we appreciate that. Good good job,

794
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.760
Jay, You're paying for this show, so yeah, we better be there

795
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.360
and knowing nice job on the nice
job on this on the staft. Welcome

796
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.000
back. You don't come back any
any day of the weekend. How did

797
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.159
we manage without you? I don't
know. That's a good question this year.

798
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:13.920
All right, let's get the heck
out of here. We'll be back

799
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.960
tomorrow. We'll keep getting ready for
Saturday's opener with n Au. So come

800
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:19.519
back tomorrow.