1 00:00:15,199 --> 00:00:19,399 What is krack lackin Hardwoodknox listeners, I am Damn Valley coming at you with 2 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,800 a fun dead of the offseason exercise. I'm going to provide outside the box 3 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,000 or dark horse destinations for the most popular trade targets, some of which are 4 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:30,920 at the forefront of rumors. Others that I just identified would be the most 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,719 popular names available. And the goals are just steer clear of Kevin Durant to 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,960 Phoenix or Kevin Durant to Miamivin Donovan Mitchell to the Knicks, trying to avoid 7 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:44,439 those and journeying off the just the beaten path a little bit before we get 8 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,600 started, Please, if you're watching us on YouTube, hit that subscribe button. 9 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,719 It would mean the world to me. 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If you're on YouTube, you 18 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,159 can see them, but those are also in the podcast and YouTube descriptions as 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,959 well. Thank you everyone, once more, without further delay, though, 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,680 let's get to this exercise. I went through players, and we're just gonna 21 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:30,920 go in alphabetical order to keep things uniform. That way. I went through 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,079 players that I think actually have value, and so let's use or be highly 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,599 sought after. Let's use Russell Westbrook act as an example. I could come 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,560 up with dark horse destinations for him, but any trade is going to be 25 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,560 viewed as the Lakers trying to acquire actual talent or just to get rid of 26 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,000 him. And so it's players that I believe have net positive or better value. 27 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:55,200 A steer like I steer clearer free agents, because there's not a lot 28 00:01:55,239 --> 00:01:57,040 of good free agents except for Colin Sexton. He's on this list just because 29 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:01,000 the Calves apparently have like a third fourteen million dollars offer per year on the 30 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,680 table. That's less than I thought he was gonna get, So he is 31 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:08,280 included in this. There are other names, but I'm I'm trying to focus 32 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:13,199 and this will be the last piece of criteria of players who would could feasibly 33 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,520 reach the chopping block, even if it's not for sort of a once in 34 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:20,919 a lifetime acquisition. Let's use Kevin Ran as an example. Would brandon Ingram 35 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,520 be available for him? Maybe brandon Ingram just isn't gonna be available. Willie 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,120 Nilly did over a Pascal Siaka right now in Toronto. Even with Ogianna Nobi. 37 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:30,560 It seems like the Raptors are pushed back against all the rumors that they 38 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,520 want to move him. So I tried to just focus on players who I 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,800 believe are actually available. I began with the best non Donovan Mitchell trade asset 40 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,919 on the Jazz and I think that's Boyon Bogdanovitch. It could be Mike Conley, 41 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:47,520 but that second year on his contracts heavily guaranteed. I do think he's 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,560 I guess he's always been underrated, but at one point became properly rated or 43 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,719 overrated, or it was overrated to say he was underrated. I just don't 44 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:58,319 know that he's going to be super sought after. So for Billiam macdonovit it's 45 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:00,240 just someone who can give you pure wing scoring, either off the ball or 46 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:04,159 on the ball. Probably best suited as a four, especially on defense. 47 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,360 Now he has been linked the only teams I've actually heard him linked to, 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,639 I believe are Toronto and the Lakers a little bit when we're talking about Russ. 49 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,280 So the squads I came up with, I have Memphis. They could 50 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,560 really use another They could use more shooting, and they can use just an 51 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:24,639 additional semi self creator to pitch in during the non John Morant minutes or even 52 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,639 with Morant on the court. Yes, maybe you're banking on jarm Jackson Junior 53 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,479 when he's healthy and Zaire Williams and Desmond Baying All to sort of make those 54 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,520 leaps. Having veteran insurance on an expiring contract would be good. They can 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,759 get to matching the money without using Steven Adams as well. They do have 56 00:03:39,759 --> 00:03:43,680 the Danny Green expiring. He can't be aggregated just yet, I don't think, 57 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,560 but he eventually can be the other team I have as Phoenix. I've 58 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:49,240 talked about him going to Phoenix, so maybe we shouldn't include that being a 59 00:03:49,319 --> 00:03:52,360 dark horse. But if they're going to make an upgrade that has nothing to 60 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,120 do with Kevin Durant. I think it needs to be just at the four 61 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,560 and skew offensively does Bonam Madonna has become your third best player, and that 62 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:01,639 seems to be their biggest issue when you look at eight and no. But 63 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,400 he probably becomes your third best offensive player and that would be important in a 64 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:11,479 playoff series. He's an upgrade offensively, I would argue from Jay Crowder for 65 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,319 sure, and probably even from Cam Johnson just when you're looking at someone who 66 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:17,600 could put the ball on the deck and generate his own offense and impinches. 67 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:20,279 So that would be a great acquisition for them. And then I don't know 68 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,800 if this count as a dark horse. I've Miami just they need to do 69 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:28,639 something kind of more inventive about the four spot. I think that I've overlooked 70 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,759 them on this podcast a little bit this offseason, which is wrong. They 71 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:35,040 should still be really good if they're healthy. If you can use Duncan Robinson's 72 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:39,639 contract to anchor a Boan mcdonovitch's trade, I don't know what you need to 73 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,120 include a sweeteners to get that off. There's four years and seventy plus million 74 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:46,000 left on it. I think, if you're going to pay a crap ton 75 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,519 of money for non stars, it might as well be elite shooters with a 76 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:50,639 ton of gravity. Duncan Robinson did slip off last year, He's still one 77 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:54,519 of the most valuable shooters in the NBA, And so what would it take 78 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:58,399 for a Jazz team who's rebuilding and he doesn't compromise the rebuild, but it 79 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,079 is long term money. What do you have to sweeten the pot with next 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,560 to Duncan Robinson too to get Bayamodonovitch, but he would be you know, 81 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,680 he doesn't replace PJ. Tucker on defense, but he's a better shooter than 82 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,399 PJ. Tucker. Slot him next to vam At a Baio run and you 83 00:05:10,399 --> 00:05:13,639 have just enough defense in general to where you don't need to do have him 84 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:16,720 do a time like between Kyle Lowry, Jimmy Butler, bam At a Bio, 85 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:20,680 Victor Oladipo is there as well, Like you can run out just a 86 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,959 bunch of really sturdy defensive lineups that we're going to be able to cover up 87 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:29,079 for him as far as he's even this monster liability, which if you're asking 88 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,639 him to defend threes, he probably would be moving on to John Collins. 89 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:38,600 Still just he seems wildly underrated. His offense is just scalable. It's plug 90 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,800 in play because he can pick and pop. At this point, he can 91 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:46,000 turn himself to a viable corner three point shooter. He can also be your 92 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,480 primary scream and screen and diver. He just doesn't get to do that in 93 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:54,199 Atlanta with Clint Capella there as often. And there's also there's more to explore 94 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,399 from his floor game. I don't think he's ever gonna be like even a 95 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:00,240 Karl Anthony Town's level attacker, but he can do more than just go north 96 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:05,160 south like there can be some deliberate mythology to the way that he's attacking, 97 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,360 or maybe there's a little east west, some spins, there, some variant 98 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:13,040 touch around the basket. And just looking at his contract, where you have 99 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,800 this fringe star for with the cap rising at sub twenty seven million dollars a 100 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,600 year and it's sub twenty five million next season, I'm just surprised there's not 101 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:25,360 more interest than him. I get it if he if you consider him a 102 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,800 one position player, I think there are teams, including the ones that I'm 103 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,360 about to mention, that could get away with applying to a ton at the 104 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:33,639 five. I have the Raptors as one. I don't subscribe to the idea 105 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,519 that they need a big but he would really I know they have Otto Porter 106 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,319 Junior. Now he would improve the spacing of some of their lineups. He 107 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 would really help their rebounding. And I think you can get away with no 108 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:46,959 is he your five? Maybe defensively you're trying to use him that way, 109 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:50,720 but you're also going to be playing with Siakam and Scotty Barnes in this scenario. 110 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,399 You keep Ben playing with Pressous or Chewa. There's Chris bouchet is there 111 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,519 as as as well. So I just think there are a ton of ways 112 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,720 that Toronto could maximize him on both offense and defense. Maybe you're even seeing 113 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:08,959 like these pairings of like him as your five without Siakam on the corporate you 114 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,959 just have enough win defense. There's between not even wings. But like Daddy 115 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,639 is young is there. Chris Brusche could even get away, but I mentioned 116 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:17,120 Chi will be he can get away with Ken Birch a little bit, So 117 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:21,000 I think that is an interesting fit. Now what do you give up to 118 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,800 get him? I think o Gianna Noby is the basis here. I think 119 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,399 Toronto's giving up the higher and value there is because of Oganna Noby's versatility. 120 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,079 Would you do DeAndre Hunter and Collins for Oganna, Noby and Filler at this 121 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,040 point, which is Birch or whatever? I kind of like that deal for 122 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,160 both sides. Let me know what you think on Twitter or in the comments 123 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:46,240 section again, O Gianna Noby and Filler for John Collins and DeAndre Hunter. 124 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:48,600 Now the amount of money going to Toronto there, you're gonna have to make 125 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:55,240 some very creative changes. You could technically include Daddy is young because of the 126 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,519 deal that he signed. Does it was an extension I believe, so it's 127 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,040 going to let him be traded immediately, unless I'm misremembering the reporting there. 128 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:03,720 But you can still step out of your way. With just between og And 129 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,639 and Nobi and Ken Birch and then some of your smaller salaries like maybe a 130 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,959 Malakai Flynn, you would be able to call together enough money without also giving 131 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,040 up Gary Trent Jr. And for some reason Atlanta wanted Trent instead of og 132 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:18,480 even better. I just don't think that's the route that they would go. 133 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:20,519 You all of a sudden, really cooking with something in Atlanta. When you 134 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,839 have og who's an incredible defensive upgrade over DeAndre Hunter, I guess net neutral 135 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,399 and offense, I'd probably argue that og and and Nobi is just more established 136 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:31,960 there as well, even looking at what he's been able to do off the 137 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,120 dribble, not this quick fire pull up shooter, but DeAndre Hunter just really 138 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,840 kind of stalled last year. But the Raptors again, he's extension eligible. 139 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:41,200 You probably get him for cheaper than og who's going to be a free agent 140 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,320 in two years. I think you're getting interesting value there. But with Atlanta 141 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:48,600 having Dejant, they Murray and og Na Nobia, then even clinkup HeLa still 142 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,360 on the same team on Yeka kung Wu. Defensively, that's a lot of 143 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,399 talent around Trey Young, even if you're not applying all five of the guys 144 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,360 that I just named it at once. So kung Wu and I know bian 145 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Copette would be a weird fit. I would watch it though. That'd bet 146 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,080 that would be interesting defensively, and then I also have the heat. They're 147 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,320 never a dark horse and anything, but let's just say like if they're not 148 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,480 going to get the rent, if they're not going to get Mitchell. I 149 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,039 don't think they want to use all of their picks on John Collins, and 150 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:18,840 I firmly have to believe that Atlanta would want more than picks for John Collinsons. 151 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:22,919 It's looking to compete immediately. At the same time, maybe they want 152 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:26,279 to replenish some of their draft picks Dash to use in further trade since they 153 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:31,240 traded away a handful to San Antonio. You could also just rally third teams 154 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,240 together where the Heat are sending out your Duncan Robinson as the primary salary filler. 155 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:37,919 There need to be other money involved there as well. But again, 156 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,720 it's workable, and you're rallying the third team, so you're sending them picks, 157 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:46,559 and they're sending Atlanta someone or something's of value that they would like. 158 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:50,159 I think this gets iffy because when you're looking at the matching money for Miami, 159 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,600 John Collins is at twenty three point five next year and Miami with Duncan 160 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:00,320 Robinson is at sixteen point nine. Right there, your next cleanest salary filler 161 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,200 fit is going to be Tyler Hero. Are you giving up Tyler Hero and 162 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,480 a John Collins trade. I think a lot of people would say no, 163 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:11,799 I don't think Atlanta needs Tyler Hero either, but I would do Duncan Robinson 164 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:15,320 and Tyler Hero and next year's first for John Collins. I think, maybe, 165 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:16,840 just maybe, is it a matter of World team give up a good 166 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,519 enough first round pick to send to Atlanta where they would then send John Collins 167 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:26,519 to Miami if they don't want Hero, I get the trade package round was 168 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,399 coming up with this, it was it told a lot of iffy. But 169 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,440 if in a vacuum you can turn John Collins, if you can turn Duncan 170 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:37,840 Robinson, Tyler Hero and a pick, I probably am not going two picks 171 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:43,039 even with Robinson's deal. If you can make that move you I would do 172 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,879 it. But you can also go the route of okay, what would you 173 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:48,799 give up Nicola Yovich and Duncan Robinson and then picks and you can still get 174 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,519 to the salary. You would take three or four players in total to bring 175 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,000 back John Collins's money, but you could do it so Tyler Hero doesn't have 176 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:56,120 to be involved. I'm just saying, if they were looking for the cleanest 177 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:01,480 possible route. Kevin Durant, Wow, Kevin Durant, there are no dark 178 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,919 horses for Kevin Durant. It feels like everyone's been mentioned at this point, 179 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:07,840 but I do have to I've been banging and other people have as well. 180 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,080 Not the only one. Kevin Durant to New Orleans. I just think there's 181 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,200 a bunch of different permutations there. CoA check out the podcast that I did 182 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,879 where I mapped out that there is a really aggressive trade offer they could make 183 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,000 that doesn't include brandon Ingram CJ. McCollum, or, of course, since 184 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:24,879 he just signed extension Zion Williamson, So that would just be scary. And 185 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,639 you want to know that Kevin Durant need wants to be there to some extent. 186 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,720 That's just I want Kevin Durant in I mean, Phoenix would be interesting 187 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:35,240 a media title favorite, but I think if you put Kevin Durant in New 188 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,360 Orleans without giving up Ingram, they might have a case there. And if 189 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,679 you put them in Toronto still those are the teams that I'm not rooting for, 190 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:45,120 but I'm most interested in seeing Kevin Durant on. I think this one's 191 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,919 probably a fair dark horse, especially given how their off season is unfolded. 192 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,080 But the Atlanta Hawks. Atlanta is a popular city among NBA players, even 193 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,639 if it hasn't been built as this like high end free agency destination. I 194 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,279 think that a lot of people look at the draft equity the Hawks game up 195 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:03,799 for de Jean day Murray and just automatically assume you can't get Kevin Durant. 196 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,679 I'm not disagreeing, but like, look at some of the avenues here. 197 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,080 So in terms of the picks that they have that you could give up, 198 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,919 that protected Sacramento pick in twenty twenty four, there's a chance it never conveys, 199 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:15,679 but it's protected until Kingdom come, so counts is a first round pick 200 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:18,399 in my book. You give up your own twenty twenty three pick, and 201 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:20,960 then you can still trade twenty twenty nine, and there's some swaps that you 202 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 could work there. So that's but that's three tangible first round picks you can 203 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:30,080 give up. You also have a handful of interesting youngsters in DeAndre Hunter, 204 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:33,840 on Yeko Kungo, Jalen Johnson, who I'm absolutely in love with, and 205 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,159 let's also not forget a J. Griffin who they just drafted. Between those 206 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,120 four guys, like you should be able to if the Nets don't want any 207 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,000 of them, I would argue they should probably want Hunter and a kung Wu 208 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:48,519 even if they're looking to compete right away. But if the Nets don't want 209 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:50,960 any of those, even Jalen Johnson, I'm love with John Johnson. Sorry, 210 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,759 sorry, everyone, but you could trade those guys feasibly. The teams 211 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:56,519 that I would think in theory would give up a first round pick to Brooklyn. 212 00:12:56,519 --> 00:13:00,559 They're probably not distant first round picks, which gets a little iffy, 213 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,279 but you also satisfy the requirements of hey, if they won't win. Now 214 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,720 players you have Boda mcdonovitch, Clink Cappella, and John Collins, all all 215 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:13,840 these names in addition, so Clink Cappella, John Collins, Boda mcdonovitch, 216 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,600 DeAndre Hunter, on Yeka kong Wu, AJ Griffin and Jalen Johnson, those 217 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,960 seven players, I would think that you could trade any single one of them 218 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:30,159 for another first round pick. It's probably most sketchy on AJ Griffin and excuse 219 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,919 me, Jalen Johnson, which is fine so and especially the Jalen Johnson just 220 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,480 given his limited sample. But like you just start rallying teams together and there's 221 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,360 should be teams that are interested in Collins or Cappella and I'm assuming you're not 222 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,360 giving up all three of your bigs like Capella Collins and don't cong Woo in 223 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:48,559 that deal. I think that you could probably put together something aggressive, especially 224 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,960 Look, the Nuts should probably want Collins. He fits with all their bigs 225 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,480 right now. So if you used Collins as sort of the salary anchor here, 226 00:13:54,919 --> 00:13:56,519 I don't know if they want Bogdanovitch, but you have all these other 227 00:13:56,519 --> 00:14:01,159 youngsters plus your picks. Can you find third and fourth teams that are just 228 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,480 sending even more picks to Brooklyn So they're still getting a fringe all star in 229 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,000 John Collins, And then they would still just get a ship ton of draft 230 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,080 equity again, unless they were really in love with some of the young players, 231 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,360 which again they might be DeAndre Hunter good even though he's extension double Yonglu. 232 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,519 They's almost position lists on defense and there's some more offense to explore there. 233 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,480 You have Claxton Dayron Sharp there, and if you're keeping Collins you certainly 234 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,919 don't want them. You could will someone give you a first round pick for 235 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:28,360 Clickopela. That's probably tough Withold Toronto be that team. Their salary filler is 236 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,840 a little bit hard pressed and I don't think they're not going to give up 237 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,639 O Giannaobi for Clinopela, and they're also not going to do so to help 238 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,279 a conference rival get Kevin Durant, I don't think, but Kevin Durant, 239 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:46,519 de Jante, Murray Trey Young just as your bass that gets incredibly intrigued. 240 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:50,159 And so I don't think Atlanta has the best KD offer, but they could 241 00:14:50,159 --> 00:14:54,120 be a team that's more incentivized to throw out their best foot, more so 242 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:56,840 than in Toronto, more so than a New Orleans, and that could put 243 00:14:56,879 --> 00:15:00,720 them technically in front of the bidding if they want. Again, I don't 244 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,039 think they get there, but that's just a team that I think we should 245 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:07,600 probably consider a little bit more. In this conversation, Eric Gordon, I 246 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:09,399 just have him here because it's like, well, what the fuck is this 247 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:13,159 guy doing on the rockets? Still, he shot incredibly well on drives last 248 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,960 year fifty five plus percent hit his three ball. Well, he can stand 249 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:20,320 very far behind the arc and again gives you that rim pressure like I just 250 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:22,519 said, and he'll he'll just hold up. On defense, there are players 251 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:28,360 who are his size and his age should probably be worse defensively when you're gonna 252 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,080 move him around the two and three spots. I haven't heard him mentioned like 253 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,799 any specific teams. I thought about the Calves, but I feel like he's 254 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:37,799 been mentioned there too much. And unless it's a Colin Sexton sign and trade, 255 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,559 which possible, I mean that's not I actually have Houston listened as one 256 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:46,200 of my Sexton dextination destination, so maybe, but I have Memphis just because 257 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,000 I think it. Maybe you want someone bigger on the wings, But if 258 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:54,320 you really in love with David Roddy, Jake La Ravia and Zaire Williams, 259 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,120 you have Desmond Bine just to have another offensive outlet after losing Kyle Anderson, 260 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:00,799 who's more of a play maker, and you still do have Tays Jones. 261 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,120 Again, you be on the smaller end. But if you're going to continue 262 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,320 to run out dual bigs for stretches, I think you just need people who 263 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,120 can shoot and then someone else who's comfortable attacking off the dribble. He's not 264 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,080 Eric Wren's not necessarily a stop and pop guy, but he's gonna give you 265 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,559 some just really strong rim pressure that I don't think you're gonna necessarily get at 266 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:22,120 the same level from Desmond Bayne or Zaire Williams at this point just to have 267 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,360 that secondary scoring and then primary shooting. He can play off the ball so 268 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:27,480 well and really stretch the floor out magic him and Jarre Jackson Junior on the 269 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,200 court at the same time, both basically standing by the timeline that just gonna 270 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,120 stretch defenses paper him. They can also get to his money without giving up 271 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Steven Adams as well. You have the once you can legally aggregate Danny green 272 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:44,120 salary, that ten million dollars non guarantee, that ten million dollars chip that 273 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:48,399 gives you a basis for all this, And I also have Milwaukee. Getting 274 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,360 to his money is tough. It has to be Grayson Allen and then George 275 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,279 Hill and then other smaller salaries. If they put Marjon Bochamp on the table, 276 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,200 Houston should just absolutely jump at that. I don't think they're going to. 277 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,039 I can't picture them including a distant they could trade at twenty twenty nine. 278 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,200 First, I can't pitch them doing it for Eric Gordon, but if 279 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,640 you know Houston, maybe they have some interest in Grace Now, who's on 280 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,960 this shorter term deal, showed some really bright moments as a shooter mostly before 281 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,559 the postseason last year. George Hill just expiring. Maybe you're getting just other 282 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:21,000 teams involved. Is there a team out there that would take George Hill? 283 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:23,640 Would Toronto consider taking George Hill? I don't know if they have a trade 284 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,039 exception large enough. I'd have to look that up. I did notice, 285 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,279 though, this is something that was interesting. There's currently no NBA trade exception 286 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,920 right now that's worth more than or worth even ten million dollars. I don't 287 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,799 know if that's like a common occurrence. Yeah, Toronto has a trade exception 288 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:41,559 they could take George Hill into. But I just thought that was fascinating because, 289 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:44,400 you know, looking at names like Eric Gordon specifically, and then even 290 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,200 someone else to come on my list that I made, I kind of thought, 291 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,559 well, what if they could slide into a trade exception and their team 292 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:52,720 just wants to save money. Didn't work like that, So Milwaukee's a little 293 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,200 bit tougher. But if Houston's not looking for a ton of value, maybe 294 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,519 they're just trying to do right by Eric Gordon too and send him to a 295 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:00,519 contender. I would love him in Milwaukee. Some of your lineups would be 296 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:06,720 smaller, but you can play Drew Jannis Middleton and Eric Gordon at the same 297 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,920 time, and it doesn't matter. You can Jannis, You're big in that 298 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,519 scenarios, Brook Lopez on the court, pet content, I don't give a 299 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:17,319 shit Kyrie Irving. I guess the dark horse destination would be anyone but the 300 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,119 Lakers. I do think Dallas kind of doesn't qualifies a dark horse anymore because 301 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,759 they've just been the team most commonly mentioned that might roll the dice on him. 302 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,519 I came up with three. One of them was a cop out. 303 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:29,759 I know he's been like semi linked to Miami, but just like they can 304 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:33,200 get to the money without including Kyle Lowry, Jimmy Butler, bam at a 305 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,680 Baio if they really wanted to, can I get there without Tyler Hero? 306 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:41,119 That's where it gets weird or third and fourth teams involved. Why would you 307 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,960 give Tyler Hero for Kyrie Irving. I just have them listed because if you 308 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 put Kyrie on the team, and even if you're giving up I guess Kyle 309 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Lowry at that point. I know it's a weird cultural fit, but man, 310 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,359 he brings so much of just what Miami would need in the playoffs, 311 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,720 specifically looking at their half court shock creation. I want to make it clear. 312 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,880 I wouldn't give up a ton of value for him, but if it's 313 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,720 costing you your twenty twenty three pick and then salary filler, like I would 314 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:08,640 do it, And it look it's a it's it's iffy because you can't. 315 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,319 I'm just looking at it now. You can't reasonably step ladder your way to 316 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,720 his money without including it would have to be Tyler Hero and Nuncan Robinson even 317 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:21,480 from there, like, you're kind of hard pressed to step ladder of your 318 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,680 salaries up. So are you giving him Kyle Lowry for Kyrie Irving? Kyrie 319 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,400 I Rving's better go and hit free agency after next year. Maybe Miami appreciates 320 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,920 that flexibility. How are you sweetening the deal next to Kyle Lowry? Do 321 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:33,720 you even want to if the Nets are trying to win, is it just 322 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:37,400 like Kyle Lowry and you know, do you have to give up a pick? 323 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,680 And that scenario if the Nets are going to hold on to Kevin Durant, 324 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,960 imagine you have to give up something. But I just had Miami listed. 325 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,119 They're not one that I believe in and the path of getting him is 326 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,119 also difficult. You give up Kyle Lowry for sure, if you can get 327 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,039 Kevin Durant and addition all your picks, Kyrie's different. But the two teams 328 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:55,759 I have listed and I wouldn't expect these, let me start with the least 329 00:19:55,839 --> 00:20:00,039 likely one. But I would kind of love this Orlando and they have a 330 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:02,720 bunch of different avenues to just get to the money. And imagine like you're 331 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,079 not giving up jam And Suggs or Palo Bank, Caro or even Franz Wagner 332 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,920 in this situation, that's like you. They could give you a pick, 333 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,839 they could give you some of their their younger guys. Do the Nets value 334 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,400 players? Like would they want to roll the dice on Jonathan Isaac? What 335 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,839 about markol Faults? They have Terris Ross Gary Harris can even be traded immediately 336 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:23,319 now based off the I think they turned his deal into an extension basically, 337 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,240 so, but if he can if I'm misremembering that as well, since it 338 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,079 is, you know, four twenty am Eastern time when I'm recording this, 339 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:36,039 I apologize there. But like Jonathan Isaac Faults Ross, are you willing to 340 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:41,279 include col Anthony in that deal? I would chumokeiki. Yeah, I definitely 341 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:45,440 include RJ. Hampton for sure, and then like you have Chicago's twenty twenty 342 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,519 three first if top four protected, is that like too shiny to give up? 343 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:52,240 It's definitely less shiny than your own first round pick. Maybe you don't 344 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,440 want to, Maybe you don't want to do that. Maybe it's just heavily 345 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,599 protected. Maybe you're giving seconds there. Maybe they're just interested in players that 346 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:03,519 will be in rotation. I mean the Nets needs still need like quality defenders. 347 00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:07,160 And if they want to roll the dice on Jonathan Isaac, his contract 348 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,720 is solo risk at this point, guaranteed seventeen point four this year, then 349 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,640 only guaranteed seven point six the year after, and that it's fully guaranteed in 350 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,920 the final season after that faults. You wouldn't need him if you had Kyrie 351 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,359 Ross, just another winning player for Brooklyn, like you can get there with 352 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,640 the bodies and then one or two of your Anthony o'keke, RJ. Hampton, 353 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,559 Hampton youngsters. I would do it if it was on the table. 354 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:33,480 I know you're probably worried about would he's submarine your culture and would he leave? 355 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:38,039 I think Orlando's an underrated free agency destination, especially if if they're good 356 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:42,400 and Kyrie would just make life so much easier on a paleo band. Karros 357 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,599 he develops and even John sugs and I don't think he necessarily like nukes their 358 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:49,599 development either. He could infringe upon in a little bit, but like I 359 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,559 think he just makes the touches they yet more streamlined. I would just like 360 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:57,200 to see it if it didn't cost a tangible first round pick or any of 361 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,559 your core youngsters, which I'm not training for Kyrie anyway, I would think 362 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:06,599 about it. The other team was Washington, and the path to getting there 363 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,319 is you have to wait basically for Will Barton and Monte Morris to be able 364 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,200 to be aggregated. Against that, you could basically flip them. I was 365 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,839 thinking Barton Morris and Hotchamoura for Kyrie. Irving you could go the route of 366 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,519 just flipping Poor Zingis. For Irving, you do have Daniel Gafford there still, 367 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:29,720 maybe you trust that you're gonna get enough production out of the center spot 368 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:33,200 then if you haven't really set yourself up to have a bunch of center minutes 369 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,599 after Daniel Gafford though, like it's very clear when you look at this setup 370 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:42,519 that they're invested in the poor Zingis Gafford five man combination, which is fine. 371 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,599 I don't like do the Nets even Wan Christops with Nick Klaxton there, 372 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,680 even if they're looking to win now. If they are looking to win now, 373 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,000 I think you could argue that Morris and Barton are going to be more 374 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:53,759 valuable, and then there's Hot Chamoura. Would you give up Johnny Davis? 375 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:59,160 I would not, but that's just if it's costing them. Basically, if 376 00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:03,759 if it's the Barton Morris package with Ruy Hachimura, I'm doing it. I 377 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:08,079 wouldn't give up a first round pick unless it's just protected until the end of 378 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,240 time and they already have one of those owed to the Knicks at this point. 379 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:15,400 Would I consider the porzingis Kyrie swap? Does someone else need to come 380 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,759 back from Brooklyn in that? I don't think so, because I would view 381 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,680 Chris Les playing well for the Wizards, but a thirty six million dollars player 382 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,200 option in twenty three twenty four, I don't think a lot of teams want 383 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,920 to carry it, So I would consider the straight up swap there. Now. 384 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,759 Where it gets iffy for me is if you're asking them to include Kyle 385 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:36,519 Kuzma I might push back unless you just think you're not going to pay him, 386 00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:40,119 because I do think like if it was Barton and Kuzma, and that 387 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,079 might even be enough money on its own. You probably need a little bit 388 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,960 more, but you could get there with Filler. If it was just Barton, 389 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Kuzma and Filler for Kyrie. I don't know if I honestly don't know 390 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:52,160 if I would do it, Like I guess you could if you're watching him, 391 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,079 but then you have Morris, Kyrie and Delon Wright. It just makes 392 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,200 more sense to send out Morris. If it was Morris and Kuzma and then 393 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,640 Filler, it might get a little bit tougher there, But just food for 394 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,720 thought. They're in a window window with Beal. Delawn Wright would be a 395 00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:08,440 great backup or somebod who could play alongside Irving. And if you're keeping Kuzma 396 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:15,720 and Denny Avvia and let's just say Kristaps porzingis in this scenario, you do 397 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,960 maybe have still enough defense, Like a Kyrie Bradley Beal backcourt isn't great, 398 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 But like if you play smaller with Delawn Right mixed in with those two, 399 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:26,119 or like I said, having Denny Avda and Kyle Kuzma is a pretty big 400 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:32,160 boon, plus Kristoff's rim protection. I think the path would be it's Morris 401 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,039 Barton Hatchimura or like, are you willing to give up kiss Burt? And 402 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,319 that's it. Like it's probably something like like that, like those two plus 403 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:41,880 a lower end asset. I don't think you're giving up a first round pick, 404 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:45,839 just food for thought, and Kyrie was just so tough, So hopefully 405 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,480 that was creative enough for everyone. Donovan Mitchell, I don't know if I 406 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,160 feel like this one's too trendy because we've talked about it and I wanted to 407 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,519 put Okay see here. I made a video about how they should trade for 408 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,000 him. That was before they waved to Michael Green. And my entire basis 409 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:03,119 for that was just you have these two medium size salaries in Favors and Ja 410 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,559 Michael Green. You can step ladder your way with Josh Giddy some other smallest 411 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:11,799 salaries to get to Donovan Mitchell money. That option is just basically out the 412 00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:17,000 window with Okay seasons they waved to Michael Green. They have Derrick Favors and 413 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Josh Giddy. Are you know they combined to make like under seventeen million between 414 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,079 them, So yeah, you could feasibly get there, But are you trading 415 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,799 us Mon Jay and then Joyn Williams and Alex Say Pokachevski to get there. 416 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,119 It would just take too many salaries, knowing that Jay Giler Saxander's a non 417 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,119 starter, and then lu Dort just signed his extension, so it just gets 418 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,440 and you're not giving up Chet Homegren. In my opinion, for Donovan Mitchell, 419 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,839 the point would be parn Mitchell with Sga and Homegren. It is still 420 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,920 feasible. So if you want, I would love to seem in Okay, 421 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,880 see if you wanted to say that they're gonna give up Like the pick Tonnage 422 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,200 plus Derek Favors, it had to be Dereck Favors. You almost need Josh 423 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,200 Giddy in this deal. It's sixteen point five million right there, and then 424 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,920 you know Jayn Williams and or Uschman Jang and then one other player like a 425 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:04,519 Darius Basley. You don't even need that much money. I'm just using that 426 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:08,039 as an example. So you could still get there. It's just a little 427 00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:12,000 bit messier now that you don't have the two filler salaries because all of a 428 00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:15,240 sudden, Derek Favors is your one filler salary and then everyone else that you'd 429 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,240 be giving up. If it's Giddy, if it's Jag, if it's Jaleen 430 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:22,400 Williams, if it's a less Polkashevski, you consider them part of your core 431 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 at least maybe not if you're in trade them for Don Mitchell. So throw 432 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,880 oh Casey in there. I have Orlando as well. Okay, see Orlando's 433 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,920 Ac counts one because I feel like both have gained traction this year. The 434 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,079 package for Orlando, they just have the filler to make it the salaries work, 435 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,720 Like is it are they giving up Folds? Are they giving up Isaac 436 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,880 in that deal? It's just the primary salary matcher. They also have Terrence 437 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,319 Ross's money at twelve point five, So like, can you get theoretically even 438 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:52,079 move Gary Harris if he's indeed still trade eligible like I believe that he is, 439 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,039 So you can get there without giving up any of your core pieces except 440 00:26:56,079 --> 00:27:00,240 for Don Mitchell probably cost you a core piece. So if it's one of 441 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,640 Sugs or Wagner and then the World and Picks and you're keeping Bank Carrow, 442 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,440 one of Sugs or Wagner. Pairing them with Donovan Mitchell and Wendell Carter Junior 443 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,160 is still there. Look, window Carter Junior even be part of the deal 444 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,880 too. It just depends on, like what variation of an offer are you 445 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,279 throwing out there. If you're including Wendell Carter Junior, are you also willing 446 00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,559 to include Jael and Suggs or Franz Wagner. If you are, I think 447 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,400 that's gonna detract from the pick equity quite a bit. And we know Utell 448 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,920 wants pick equity. So my point is they have the salaries, they have 449 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:36,079 the the cornerstone youngsters. When you look at Wagner and Sugs, I would 450 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:38,680 I'm making Bean Carroll untouchable. I would consider moving Sugs for Mitchell. I 451 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,440 would I would again diminish the pick hall that I'm giving Utah for that, 452 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,480 but I would consider moving Sugs or Wagner for Mitchell. And then also, 453 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:51,640 just like o'kekey and Hampton and Coolante, those can be valuable. I don't 454 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,960 want to call them throw ins, but just like flyer youngsters, sort of 455 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,960 like how the Nicks have Cam Reddish, the Magic have Chumilkekey or Colanty is 456 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,240 more of a certainty than I think Cam Reddish at this point, but in 457 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,559 RJ. Hampton. So those offers are interesting and I would love to see 458 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,839 it. Are they on that timeline? That's where it gets iffy. This 459 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,720 next team is on the wind now timeline and it's the Cleveland Cavaliers. My 460 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:18,880 basis for this now is the Jazz. You're not gonna trade Evan Mobley, 461 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,160 and then you're not gonna trade get Darius Garland. He was just extended anyway, 462 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:26,039 and I don't think Utah's gonna want Jared Allen. Would I move Jared 463 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,319 Allen for Donovan Mitchell? Yes, I would if that's like the basis of 464 00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:33,279 the offer here. But you have matching salary to get there without those three 465 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Larry Marketing, Carris Lavert, Chetty Osman at at seven point four million, 466 00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:44,920 even Isaac o'corro at seven point one. It's like you can get there do 467 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,799 any of those players that aren't Allen Garland and we didn't If you mentioned loves 468 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,720 expiring deal, but that would really be mean. I know he likes Utah, 469 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:55,920 but it would be mean to send him to a rebuilding team. What 470 00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:02,000 is the appeal of their package without a Jared Allen, Evan Mobile or Derris 471 00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,519 Thorn again. If the Jazz wanted Jared Allen, I think I would trade 472 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,359 him for Donovan Mitchell. With that said, I think you build your package 473 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:15,440 around Isaac okorro A Baji and then just all the picks and then salary filler. 474 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,720 So every single pick that you're able to tookive up. Is that enough? 475 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,039 It probably depends on how much they value Okoro and ak Baji. You 476 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:29,319 could also work it. It gets difficult with base your compensation, but you 477 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,640 can. Sorry I'm Blackie here. You can sign and trade Colin Sexton to 478 00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,960 Utah. And maybe they're just looking for sort of this temporary offensive steward. 479 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,119 He's gonna make less money than a lot of people think, perhaps that something 480 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,680 Utah would be open to. And so there are avenues I think for them 481 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,039 to explore without breaking up their three best players. I would put Allen on 482 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,039 the table if it meant getting Mitchell again. It's gonna limit what else I'm 483 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:53,799 offering, But I don't know that anything else you were going to give is 484 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:59,240 attractive enough when you're looking at Okoro ak Baji. Yeah, I give those 485 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:03,519 two an Allen play picks for for Donovan Mitchell. I really think that I 486 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:07,039 would a Garland Mitchell front court would be great ideally, and I think more 487 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,359 realistically is it's your entire future draft. And then you're putting Okoro and a 488 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,559 Baji as the primary assets and surrounding them with money. Last three names here, 489 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,440 I have Marcus Morris Senior on here just because and I was talking about 490 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,640 this in our discord. I want to see with our good, our good, 491 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:33,200 loyal discord member, friend, family member, Bradon. I want to 492 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,160 see him Mir Coffee get minutes, and then Clipper Sands want to see Brandon 493 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Boston Junior get minutes as well. There's just so many wings on this team, 494 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400 and you can bake in injuries for Kawai, maybe some absences for Paul 495 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,279 George, even Norman Powell a little bit. There's just so many wings. 496 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:48,960 Can we open it up to spread some love to just a mere Coffee who 497 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:53,839 I'm absolutely enamored by. This is also a situation where I wondered, would 498 00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:57,039 you just dump him because I don't. I think you'd prefer to get a 499 00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:00,359 back up big but you're so far I know, we say Steve Bomber doesn't 500 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,079 care about the tax, but you're about to pay a tax bill. That's 501 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,039 like, I don't even know, like eighty trillion dollars my spreadsheet, I 502 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,079 don't have a math here, but it's I think they'll be more than forty 503 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:18,559 million dollars in tax payments. So that's a lot of tax payments. So 504 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,799 that's a huge tax bill, is my point. That's like, I don't 505 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,279 even well, I don't even know the actual tax paid. They're forty plus 506 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,400 million dollars into the tax Would you be the one just to give up Marcus 507 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,119 Morris to cut that down? Maybe you want to get a backup center out 508 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,200 of the deal. Again, no team has a trade exception that I can 509 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,200 see or have logged that would be large enough to take in Marks Moore Senior. 510 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,400 I do have three teams for him Sacramento. He doesn't really qualify as 511 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:51,480 a wing and but I'm fine with that. Like you can play you can 512 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:55,319 play him and Barnes and Keegan Murray at the same time if you really wanted 513 00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:56,880 to, and then Fox and SI bonus. I would I would watch that 514 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,680 lineup. I don't you know, I don't know how good it would be 515 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,759 defensively, but I think you can absolutely do that. The paths to the 516 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:08,839 package. I think it's actually interesting. It's Rashaun Holmes and then like it 517 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,680 could be, I would say Terrence Davis like Rashaun Holmes and Terrence Davis for 518 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:19,960 Mark's Moore Senior Works, would be willing to give up Alex lenn just he's 519 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,680 a smaller salary. And then the Clippers all of a sudden have these three 520 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,279 traditional bigs. Can you get them to take on Trey Lyles. I don't 521 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:30,039 think that might. Oh yeah, that would get you to Marcus Morris money. 522 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:34,000 And they come really also close to being able to take in just Holmes 523 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:37,880 for Morris, but it's it's not quite there unfortunately. So that would be 524 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,119 the structure of a deal, and I think I really like it and I 525 00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:45,279 would do it if I'm both teams have homes and zoobots as your primary biggs 526 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:51,799 in LA absolutely, I think that's a fantastic fit. So the other two 527 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:55,400 teams I have are Minnesota, which is I don't know how I feel about 528 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,640 this trade post Rudy Gobert, but they're clearly not afraid to play like super 529 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,279 Large, And so could you envision a scenario where Jaden McDaniels and Anthony Edwards, 530 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:07,640 Marcus Morris Senior and Rudy Goberton Towns or just your lineup I've proposed on 531 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,720 a previous pod, Norman Powell and Marcus Moore Senior for D'Angelo Russell. I 532 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:15,279 don't know that the Clippers would be as interested in that now that they signed 533 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,559 John Wall. Does Reggie Jackson and Marcus Morris Senior like wet Minnesota's whistle at 534 00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:23,680 all? For that? That seems like a substantially less attractive package. Deal 535 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:25,839 had a pretty good year last year. I mean, there were so a 536 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,119 few moments in the postseason, but he had a really solid regular season, 537 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,160 so that I included a third team because I became a little bit more lukewarm 538 00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:37,039 on that the Bucks. Can you get there? I think the question is 539 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:43,039 without trading Brook Lopez and of course any of your actual core players. I'm 540 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:46,880 not getting up Marjehan Bouchamp for Marcus Morris. If they really wanted to, 541 00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:51,119 like and he was having a career year, I mean perhaps I think the 542 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,440 goal would be so Alan and George Hill, Grayson Allen, George Hill work. 543 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:57,200 I don't think the Clippers needing any of those guys. Grace and Allen's 544 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,720 deal is not as bad as people think. So if the Clippers just want 545 00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:04,279 sort of another shooter, someone just really dead eye from beyond the arc two 546 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,679 years under nineteen million dollars at this point, yes, you could take him 547 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,599 on, and you're cutting your tax bill a little bit. I think the 548 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:13,760 goal would be, can you find teams to just absorb those other players? 549 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,360 Would toront would take George Hill into their trade exception? Can you get there 550 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,599 are trade exceptions big enough for Grace now to go into? But could you 551 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,159 compensate the Spurs or the Indiana Pacers enough to take him on? And so 552 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,760 that would sort of be the framework. And I think I love Milwaukee the 553 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:35,199 most just because the Jannis Morris, Middleton Drew Holiday. Let's say Conaton lineups 554 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239 like those would be great. I know you then have Poris and Brook Lopez 555 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,840 on the bench, but that would be a killer playoff lineup to me. 556 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:45,239 Maybe you have Wes Matthews instead of Connaton, just depending on who you're going 557 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,320 up against. But there would just be a lot of optionality there. Ronda 558 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,320 context and I already spoiled one it was Houston, So just go with me 559 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:58,840 on this they have like that, or they still don't have the like floor 560 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,280 general of the future in their midst Maybe you feel very strongly about thy Thy 561 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,880 Washington. He plays bigger than he is. I really like him. I 562 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,559 hope they give him a shot. I'd rather see him run the offense than 563 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,719 Kevin Porter Jr. At this point, with Kevin Porter junior extension knowledgeable, 564 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,440 you have thy Thy Washington like Josh Christopher's hanging around there. Trey Burkes is 565 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,280 currently on the roster right now. You want Jalen Green to shoulder a ton 566 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,480 of a bunch of the offensive load like that might actually make a lot of 567 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:28,920 sense there. I like Colin Sexton's fit next to John Green better than Kevin 568 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,199 Porter Jr. Who has more off the dribble juice. I think Colin Sexton's 569 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:37,159 going to give you a more accomplished shooter when he's going to be healthy there 570 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:40,480 as well. And I think at this point I'm not crazy about either defense, 571 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:44,360 but Sexton would probably be the better on ball defender to me, even 572 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719 if you think you can get some actual wing defense from from Porter, if 573 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,280 the price is like not astronomical, base share compensation comes into play here. 574 00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,679 But like Eric Gordon, going to the Calves would make some sense and you 575 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,280 finagle the money going that route, there would need to be other parts involved, 576 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,880 and like I said, just depends on do you want to pay Kevin 577 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,360 Porter Junior. I don't know what his extension numbers going to be, but 578 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,519 context and it was, look, his market is created, or at least 579 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,559 Cleveland feels like they have leverage because he hasn't signed any of these other offers. 580 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,000 I didn't include in the add on this because they're just not a dark 581 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,679 horse. They're mentioned as, oh, well, they should just throw out 582 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:17,480 an offer sheet or work out a sign and trade for him. I ever 583 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:21,920 Lando as the other one, and so that's just sort of like, let's 584 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,719 put another shooter who can work on the ball, but also give us some 585 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:30,719 on ball offense to alleviate the job for Franz Wagner, Palo Bancaro, Wendell 586 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,159 Carter Junior, Jail and Suggs. I like his fit there and I think 587 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,719 that they just have the requisite defensive versatility to cover up for any concerns that 588 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,679 they have. I'm I'm a big believer in what Suggs could do at his 589 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,599 position defensively, let's not forget about Wendell Carter Junior and then Jonathan Isaac. 590 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,079 I'm actually convinced that Palabancarro is going to be a pretty good defender. Franz 591 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,199 Wagner was solid for the positional minutes that he played. Again, if it's 592 00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:53,960 not going to cost you the world, and you have Terrence Ross, who's 593 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,880 someone who should interest the Calves in the interim, and then you work your 594 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,719 way back from there, like are you giving them faults? Who would probably 595 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,400 just have to be like the prime Like can you can't do faults and roster 596 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,119 Sexton unless you're paying Sexton a ship ton and that money gets difficult for Cleveland. 597 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,639 But like Terrence Ross and like Chumo Kiki for a Colin Sexton, maybe 598 00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,880 you don't value Sexton that much because the track that you're on. But I 599 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,079 like the idea of Sexton sort of as this outlet, not super ball dominant, 600 00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:27,559 and you'd want someone more talented to run your offense. But you still 601 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:31,159 have Stugs and Ben Carro and faults in that scenario. So just food for 602 00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:37,679 thought on that one. Finally, Miles Turner, I have so I have 603 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,280 Memphis here, but I've talked about the Memphis deal like so many times, 604 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,079 and Grizzlies fans have been generally unhappy with me about it. I just think 605 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,559 you would lose a lot of Here's the thing, I'm not having them trace 606 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,440 Steven Adams for Miles Turner. I don't know that the Pacers would be super 607 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,280 interested in Steven Adams anyway. But you can get to Miles Turner's money, 608 00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:59,519 which is a very low eighteen million dollars without including Steven Adams. Once you 609 00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:01,639 can at Gate Danny Green. That's ten million right there. You just need 610 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:06,199 a few million bucks after it and whatever pick equity it's going to take, 611 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,679 or prospect equity which could count towards the money to bring Turner to Memphis. 612 00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:13,440 And so that seems weird. But it's only for a year. Adams and 613 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,400 Turner both come off the books. How healthy will Jaren Jackson Junior be to 614 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,119 start the season. I know you'd be losing something with rebounding going from Adams 615 00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,000 to Turner. Long term. You can also turn around then, by the 616 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,880 way, and use Steven Adams to anchor another trade if you were confident in 617 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,360 the Jackson Turner pairing. I know you're concerned about what would happen on the 618 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:36,639 glass also with your screen setting. I just like the idea of having too 619 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,719 sweet shooting or higher volume shooting bigs Jackson's more volume, and I mean Turner 620 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,599 is not the most lights out shooter, but I like the idea of it. 621 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:46,559 To see it in practice. If it's going to cost you green one 622 00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:51,360 of your non Zaire Williams desmond Bane prospects, and then like a pick, 623 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,800 a very heavily protected pick to get Turner, I would really test out the 624 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,360 experiment just because it makes so much sense to surround John Morant with as much 625 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,760 spacing as possible. Yes, I get that you would want a better screener 626 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,960 than Turner, but like Steven Adams would still be there in this scenario, 627 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,159 and so maybe you viewed as a misallocation of assets, especially when you saw 628 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,519 Adams get played off the court during the postseason. Turner's not going to be 629 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:15,519 so easily played off the court, like he just has better I don't like 630 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,039 hip mobility, so to speak. When you're putting him in space, then 631 00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,960 I Steven Adams is going to and Steven Adds was really good last year, 632 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,800 and I think he's there's an argument. I think Grizzlies fans are probably a 633 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,239 little bit too high about like how he how hard it is for him to 634 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,559 be played off the floor, And I'd agree to an extent, like I 635 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:35,000 don't view him as just like this complete liability, but his rebounding, his 636 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,679 boxing, boxing out the angles on his screens, his ability to just navigate 637 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,360 the floor away from the ball, misability to convert after getting offensive rebounds, 638 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,320 it's it's all super important. I just like the idea of Turner Memphis my 639 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,639 other one. They're not a typical dark horse team, but I haven't heard 640 00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:53,480 them mentioned the Chicago Bulls and it's just like they don't have a ton to 641 00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:58,559 offer. But Turners on an expiring contract India's cap space, would you go 642 00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,920 from Bouch's twenty two million two Turner's eighteen million? And what asset do you 643 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,039 need to include? Is the buffer there? I would include Kobe White? 644 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,440 Was you Kobe White? The Portland first? It's lottery protected and voos for 645 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,239 a Turner if you're expecting Voods to have a bounce back here, I get 646 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,480 that it's tough to stomach if you can get Turner while keeping the zoon move 647 00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:20,519 and Patrick Williams, who I wouldn't trade Williams for Turner anyway to soon move, 648 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,360 I probably wouldn't trade him either. Maybe are you confident in that, 649 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,679 like you have Turner and then if you really need more of a rebounding presence. 650 00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,039 That's why Andre Drummond is on this team. He's a Turner's a better 651 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,840 room protector, the best room protector they would have. If that's the cost, 652 00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:38,440 maybe like an India has the flexibility to just find out what's left in 653 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,840 Kobe White, who's going who's extensions? Are going to going to be a 654 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,360 restricted free agent? If they're going to get a first round pick out of 655 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,719 the deal, it's a lot of protective for Portland through twenty twenty eight. 656 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,000 It will convey at some point. So you could say you're getting a first 657 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:57,800 round pick, and I think that like that can be valuable. Maybe you're 658 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,320 chasing more of a distant pick. But Icago os it's twenty twenty five first 659 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,639 two, Orlando, oh no to the Spurs. Excuse me? So, 660 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,800 like you have to get a twenty twenty seven pick contingent upon that obligation. 661 00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:17,400 So the framework to me is that Portland pick Kobe White and then vouch for 662 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,199 Turner. I don't know if that's enough for India. I think it's probably 663 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,679 right on the fringe right now, you would prefer anyone in the Lakers picks 664 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,360 if you include like Desoon move rather than the pick, or rather than Kobe 665 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,840 White, that might be a trump card, to be honest, I even 666 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,239 thought about, like, could you just build something around Lonzo Ball, Lonzo 667 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,440 Ball and Haliburton in the back court? Like might be weird, but I 668 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:42,679 would I would favor it. I would watch it. Are you that low? 669 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,239 And Lonzo Ball? Though, who when he was healthy with Alex Caruso 670 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,559 was mission critical to your defense. I think the framework is just booch to 671 00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:52,559 Turner. What sweeteners need to be involved to get it done. I'm considering 672 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:58,000 basically anything in anyone that's not Patrick Williams in that scenario that was it. 673 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,480 I hope you enjoyed this exercise. Please remember to subscribe to us. Hit 674 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,719 the subscribe button on YouTube and like comment help us break the algorithm. Find 675 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,360 us wherever you're getting your podcast. If you've done all those things, please 676 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,639 recommend us word of mouth, help us promote the show, Tell your friends, 677 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,480 family members, acquaintances, random people you know on the Internet that might 678 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,760 have an inkling to hear about and enjoy listening to coverage of NBA basketball. 679 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,079 I really try and do a thorough un serious job. It's been a blast 680 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,960 talking to you all once again until next time. End. As always, 681 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,719 I leave you at the shout out to no One, the only, the 682 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,280 legendary, the irreplaceable and indispensable Frank Dela