WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:06.200 Welcome to Wine Soundtrack USA. Listen to the passion with which producers narrate their 2 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:11.359 winery and their worlds. In thirty answers discover their stories, personalities, and 3 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:16.039 passions. Hello, friends and listeners of Wine Soundtrack. This is Alison Levine 4 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:20.719 and today I'm in the Santa Rita Hills with Peter, work of Ampelos Sellers. 5 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:25.879 Peter, Welcome to Wine Soundtrack and tell us about Ampelos. Thank you 6 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:29.320 so much. Great to have you here, a kind of coming back here. 7 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.000 It's awesome, it's a beautiful. We're sitting here, the sun is 8 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:35.600 almost sitting over the vineyard and the back. We're sitting here in the house, 9 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.640 getting waiting for a good meal. And so your Ampelos Sillas was a 10 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:46.479 crazy project that Rebecca and I we started up like a good twenty five years 11 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:51.079 ago when we bought a piece of property up here in back then it was 12 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:55.159 Sayings Valley West kind of and then it became say to Rita Hill too. 13 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.759 Are very lucky to be in that appellation in two thousand and three when it 14 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.479 was proved like a twenty years ago. So we start out from squat, 15 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.560 there was nothing on the lands. Rebecca and I had absolutely no clue of 16 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:12.159 our farming we or it executives. We just love to be on the professional 17 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:17.760 floors and to not be out in the farm country. But bought the lands 18 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.959 and decided that wouldn't it be great to one day look at the venue, 19 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.400 to have the dogs and horses running around around you and just see where that 20 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:29.200 would take us. And that's what you have today. That's what it looks 21 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:32.200 like today. Is that go? Is that very cool? So tell me 22 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.719 about this property. How many acres are we on? So we purchased eighty 23 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:40.879 two acres in ninety nine as raw lands with nothing planted on it, and 24 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:47.000 then we initially two thousand and one planted fifteen acres because we're in saying the 25 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.920 Reading Hills, because a unique climate you have. As we look out, 26 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.799 we can already see the evening focus rolling in from the ocean with the cooling 27 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:59.319 effect. So it is ideal country for pino noir, So two third pino 28 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:04.719 noir plane, Little Serah, little Gnas, little viny, little reason as 29 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.199 well. And then in two thousand and four we expanded with another technique, 30 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:12.439 so twenty five acres planted in two wow, and a nice variety of wines. 31 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:16.719 And in terms of your wines, what's your total case production and where 32 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:21.560 are your wines? Where can we find your wines? So we make about 33 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:27.840 five thousand cases twelve packs Rebecca and I. We sell them through different channels. 34 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.479 We of course have a taste and as you should have in the wine 35 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:35.280 ghetto in Lumpo. We have a course of website where you can buy them 36 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:39.800 online. We have a great wine club with a lot of real passionates wine 37 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:45.159 lovers that have been participating in that wine club that we kept going for many 38 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.080 years. We have some many good friends that we met through the wine club. 39 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:53.400 Our wines also distributed in the United States in different states California, of 40 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.800 course, New York, New Jersey, Colorado, Texas and a couple of 41 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:02.280 the states that are your small all the sales volume. And then internationally actually 42 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:08.400 our biggest market of any market. There's a little country that a few people 43 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:13.639 know about called Denmark. Guess Whine because you're from there, because you're the 44 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:20.400 Danish cowboy exactly exactly. So it's actually a huge market force because we love 45 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.199 going there. People love the wines, people love wine and food, people 46 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:27.960 who appreciate you always spending good money on wine. So it's a great market 47 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.400 force. We just this morning packed up in order forward Norway. We are 48 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:37.400 in Sweden. We are also just getting into South Korea. For number of 49 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:43.800 years, we've been in Singapore and in Japan. That's a very great international 50 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.800 market. I mean, you're really all over there. So you're from Copenhagen, 51 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:53.719 well from Denmark. What is your first memory relevant to wine? So 52 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.120 I remember growing up that my parents not like they were drinking a lot of 53 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.719 wine, but on Saturday evening they would open up a bottle of wine. 54 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.080 And you know, I had three other siblings much older than me, and 55 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:10.000 they left, so I was like the only one back home, and you 56 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.159 know, I was probably ten twelve years old. On Saturday evening, I 57 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.599 gave Peter a little glass, so I let him taste some of that. 58 00:04:15.279 --> 00:04:19.319 When I went traveling with my parents, my father loved to go to wine 59 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:24.079 regions like wee those in Fains, so Germany tastes a little bit of wines. 60 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:27.519 I would sneak in there and taste with him. And I just had 61 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:31.480 this interest in wine. And then after a graduate finished high school, I 62 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.639 took one year off worked at a hotel restaurant, and there I got in 63 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:41.639 charge of the inventory and the main guy was teaching me the difference between the 64 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:45.759 different French wines and the Italian wines, and I got really excited about back 65 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.800 then. So somehow wine has always been my interest for so many years. 66 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:54.360 And is there one particular wine that stands out as one of those aha moment 67 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:59.079 wines that put you on a trajectory or opened your mind up to something, 68 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.759 or just was just a perfect time and place, you know what? In 69 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.800 general, I hear there's often because said, oh that was the way. 70 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:10.399 Well I had that, y'all romany County two thousand and five from DS whatever 71 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.920 it was. Well, anyone who has romany A County says, aha, 72 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.240 right, I've acted. I've had the two neighbors Invenias, but but not 73 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:20.040 that one. But there's none of those. But there's actually one thing that 74 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:25.199 sticks out there. When I was trained to get my quartermaster to assumeing a 75 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:30.160 level two in two thousand and fifteen, Rebecca said, what do you know 76 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.000 the least about? And you know it's all self start is So I said 77 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.360 it's probably Spain. So she said, let's go. So we went to 78 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:40.319 Spain for three weeks in December. Our highlight was we went to pre or 79 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:44.560 Rods, and in pre Rods we spent some time with a Plateos. We 80 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:47.439 spent some time with Renny Papierre, the younger one, and we really one 81 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.120 evening we're trying at a lot of wines with him, and one at some 82 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:56.680 point in time he opened up there's a bottle of Kernec Kernan. And when 83 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.639 I say that, I'm like, oh my god, that opened ups on 84 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:03.759 for some for me and that was why we now make carr now every second 85 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:08.319 year. So so there was one bottle there that stood out Wow. Well 86 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:12.879 see it's an aha moment. I mean it may not be the quintessential of 87 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.720 like my life changing, but carrying on, yum, I mean it's yum. 88 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.839 So you know we're in your home. I see you have a little 89 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:24.720 wine cellar. I can see the window to one. I don't know how 90 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:28.160 much wine is there and where else it's hid in the house. But what 91 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.120 would we find here? Is there a lot of ampelos? But I'm sure 92 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.920 there's a lot of amplos because that's what I'm drinking right now. But what 93 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.480 else is in your cellar? What do you what do you drink. Yeah, 94 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:39.399 No, it's a great quase to be about seven hundred and fifty bottles 95 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.959 in there in the cellar. And what you would find in there is there's 96 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.480 very little amplos in there. There's about open the corner there's bobby like two 97 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.959 or three cases of amplos. And in general, when Rebecca and I opened 98 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:57.040 wine here, which appens pretty much seven days a week or maybe eight days 99 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:01.160 a week. So when we opened up wine, see probably about three out 100 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:05.160 of four bottles and not employers wines. And that is because we just love 101 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:10.839 to learn, We love to try new things. We have waves of different 102 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.639 grapes we go through. Right now we are very much on im men fear 103 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:19.399 kind of wave. We love that. We love great roan wines, and 104 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:23.600 we just think there's so much great value you can find around the world. 105 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:28.879 On the white side, my wife is just pointing herself to the nose a 106 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.519 thing that means that she agrees with there on the white side, we love 107 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:35.360 a lot of Spanish whites right now. We were exactly a year ago we 108 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:40.680 spent some time in Portugal and yeah, they've got pot one up indoora, 109 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:45.199 but I mean some of the red wines coming out of outdoora just like amazing 110 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:50.560 wines. So we buy a lot of wines from over there that we enjoy 111 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:55.720 it. Anything you opened up recently that drank really well, I mean last 112 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:59.399 night we had a Gordon can you find that isn't in the dress somewhere on 113 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.480 it. Last night we had a really great It was a basic coat drone, 114 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.839 probably like twenty five bucks a bottle, and we had it with some 115 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:13.199 spicy food. Last night. It was a great a swim bacon and then 116 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.279 organic vegetable disks that we had we could spice level and it just appeared perfectly. 117 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.199 We just we're not into like popping one hundred dollar bottle of wines ever 118 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.879 nights. That's just not our style. We got mons of them sitting there, 119 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:30.360 but we don't open. We just like to find good value wines and 120 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.480 open them up and have fun with them. Absolutely. So. Do you 121 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.039 think there's a such thing as a perfect variety? No, I really don't, 122 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:43.919 because first of all, if I start defining perfect varietal, Rebecca is 123 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.919 going to jump in because we have two different definitions. And of course a 124 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.200 peanut Noika you got, she's the surround woman. So therefore just for starters, 125 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.399 and there was no perfect varietal in our household here. But I also 126 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.000 think that it comes and goes in waves. Also think that it's about what 127 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.639 mood you're in. I also think, you know what time of the day, 128 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:05.960 what is it going to be? Is it by itself? Is it 129 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.519 with food? Is it what I called the after dinner wine, when you're 130 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.600 done with dinner and you turn on the fireplace and pet the dog. What 131 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.279 kind of wine do you want to drink when you know you're sitting there and 132 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:22.039 enjoying things. So it depends upon exactly where you are the situation. Absolutely 133 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:28.919 so for somebody you know who who isn't necessarily you know, there are people 134 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.840 I should say that the despire for perfection, right scores? People go after 135 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.039 scores, and people look at high numbers as being perfection close to it. 136 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:41.799 What's your opinion on wine critics and scores. I really believe that wine critics 137 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.519 were very important when it was hard to get information about wines pre internet. 138 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:52.559 Yes, exactly when I mean when Robert Parker became popular and people in like 139 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.279 Midwest could not just drive out to the wine who in taste the wines themself. 140 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:01.559 I understand why it was important. I read winespeake to from beginning to 141 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.360 end for many many years myself. I just think that today when you have 142 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:11.200 so much great knowledge out there, so many people everybody's a journalist nowadays, 143 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.440 So don't take me wrong, but but there is just so much great information 144 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.600 available out there through blogs and through podcast and through social media, etc. 145 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:28.000 So I just think that in general, the value of the importance of wine 146 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:33.000 and elytics scorning wines, it's just not as as high on my agenda as 147 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.919 it was in the past. So for you as a wine drink or red, 148 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.960 white or rose, yes still are sparkling. No, I mean, 149 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.759 I'll tell you so not to do name dropping. But it's just three hours 150 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.799 ago we were sitting out here with our good friend Russell and having a good 151 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.679 meeting with him about the well. We popped the bottle of white wine and 152 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.320 then we popped the bottle of rose wine, and you know, you and 153 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.159 I and we back how we're going to be drinking some red wine laid on. 154 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.720 It's again about where where we are watched situies. I would say that 155 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:05.720 probably about two out of three bottles of wine we're doing out red wines, 156 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:13.080 okay, still are sparkling. So sparkling is interesting. Like yesterday afternoon we 157 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.919 had a great bottle of actually ambulo sparkling one. But in general, I 158 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:24.919 don't think I'm a very good appreciator of sparkling wines. It is rare that 159 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.279 we owe most sparkling wines at home, even though we sort of make it 160 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:33.159 ourselves. But you sort of make it, but I mean it. I 161 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.080 think that in general, spark good sparkling wines are just price a little bit 162 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.480 too high. I'll rather spins. You have the money and get a great 163 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.480 bottle of white wine. Absolutely so Um, you spoke a little bit about 164 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.279 the wine you had, the coat drown wine that you had, and the 165 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.120 dish you paired with it. And obviously you guys are big cooker. You 166 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.840 know, you cook a lot. You have a lot of spices here, 167 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.960 you work with a lot of different things. You have a garden outside. 168 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.399 I'm curious how you approach food and wine pairing. Do you think there are 169 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:07.159 rules to follow? Do you have guidelines you can suggest or you know, 170 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.840 is it just whatever the mood brings you? So I think, first of 171 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.559 all, this thing about finding a good wine that the pairs with food. 172 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.320 Wall think about that. You make wine once a year and you make food 173 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.120 every evening, so it's all the other way around. How do you find 174 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:24.039 some food that pairs with wine? Right? So what I love when I 175 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.399 do wine maker dinners. I just got back from three weeks to Denmark, 176 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:31.279 where did twenty three wine maker dinner and tasting events. It was I met 177 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.679 a lot of eating and drinking. Yeah, it was great and I still 178 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.840 still last. Wait. But the thing about that is that it's so cool 179 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.720 because typically the chips have had a chance to taste the wine and they will 180 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.240 do their very best to match their food to the wine. So here's an 181 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.919 example. We started a few years ago. We start doing orange wine. 182 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.759 It's basically skin fermented alborno, which is very unusual because you got tenants on 183 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:56.759 a white wine which you are not used to. I was at the very 184 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.840 highest inam Golf Club in Denmark. They did wine Makeer dinner. Seventy people 185 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:07.399 and these are not people with tattoosa and rings and their eithers. Their style 186 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:13.240 is people right, and their chief put on a five course dinner and one 187 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.919 course was active with orange wine with Aspergus white Aspergus with orange wine. I'm 188 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.000 like, that's daring, but it really worked. And you know that's so 189 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.480 great when you work with chiefs, a good wine maker, dinners that really 190 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:28.519 know how to pair things. The ether night, Rebecca was doing a wine 191 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:33.440 maker dinner at the La Zoo where they had also a menu, and she 192 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.840 was talking about that they have their bar mundo fish that they are made with 193 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:45.519 active with green curry and what else queen curry and black ancient queens, right, 194 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:50.360 and they have queens and they have paired that with our sakranas plan our 195 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.039 suras, And you said that worked really well, right, You're so good. 196 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.039 So I think it's so awesome when a chief takes a wine and does 197 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.080 something on the usual and makes it work. So for somebody who hasn't had 198 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.080 the pleasure to taste Ampoulos yet, what do you think they're missing out on? 199 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:13.039 As? No, I mean what we stand for, and this will 200 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:16.279 be a little bit longer. One we believe in number one, we believe 201 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:18.840 in farming. We believe in its our own grapes. I'm looking at the 202 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.879 vinea right now out through the window, a vinea that we planned in one 203 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.960 h four and in two thousand and six took through conversion to organic biodynamic laid 204 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:35.799 on sustainability regeneratives. So it all starts and being all starts with good farming, 205 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.519 good conscious farming, not with a bunch of crabby chemicals introduced along the 206 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:45.320 way, and really a principle of not controlling vines, not being a chance 207 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.600 with it, but working to it in a partisi with vines modern needs, 208 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.240 or with the microbes with good beneficiary insects, with the weather, etc. 209 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:01.840 So exactly Rebecca's going to try in a little bit here tell you when you're 210 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.840 preparing I said, ts kind of jumping on it, no, but that 211 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.720 is where it begins, right, So good conscience farming, and you're certified, 212 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.080 of course. And then when we bring him into wine or then it's 213 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:16.840 about low intervention whatever you hear. We call it natural wines. We done 214 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.240 neatural wine making for almost fifteen years now, since two thousand ten. So 215 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:26.600 it's like no yeast added, no nutrition or no firmmitation adds added, none 216 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.960 of that added to it. We do a very low level of sulfides just 217 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.320 to make sure we keep the bacterial under control, and then just let modern 218 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.000 needs to be modern nature and develop a good wine. So somebody who hasn't 219 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.840 tried the wines, it is going to taste mother nature. That's that's exactly 220 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.440 it. It's modern nature, and that is what's fascinating Rebecconi, both x 221 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.879 I people, corporate executives, and for us to come out of that world 222 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:54.039 and come up here and learn how to work in a partnership with modern nature 223 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.120 and to create a beautiful product that goes in a glass of wine is fastening. 224 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:02.480 So if space Celians were to land on your property right now and knock 225 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:03.759 on the door, which of your wines would you want to welcome them with? 226 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:10.279 It depends upon the Yeah, well we'd start out with a glass of 227 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:15.080 Kronk blank. Well the claret blank. I have to say that the label 228 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.799 looks a little space like, I mean, it looks like something's coming out 229 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.320 of the sky, So that'll work. Yeah. So so here's the deal 230 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.440 is that we've been making wine rebeccan I since two thousand free, so we 231 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.440 got back two decades into it. But a couple of years ago we said 232 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.159 to each other, we've got to start thinking about the next days and what 233 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.399 do they want. So we had to create a new label. Two years 234 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.440 ago called Funkytown, and Funkytown is about something a little different. You see 235 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:47.240 the label looks so different from amplus labels, right, but it's about doing 236 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:52.279 new riotles, doing new ways. This is a Clarett Blank's white grape that 237 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.159 nobody knows about. It's a traditional shadow lifting pop and a lunk and doc 238 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.360 great that's always used as a blending grape. We did a hund percent. 239 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.559 It's from the biodynamic Vinyond Martian vineyard. Yeah. So perfect for the space 240 00:17:03.599 --> 00:17:08.440 aliens is to give them something from Martian vineyards from Marsion. Ah, I 241 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.160 didn't see that coming. That's a good one. And that. We also 242 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.680 did a piquet, which is a low alcohol wine with a sparkling thing glows 243 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:21.400 in the dark. Is beautiful that we do the ns wine and Toto Alborno 244 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:26.480 and Kevin Angamans and they're just like different wines. Wow. Fun fun. 245 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.079 So for something you know, we're looking out at your vineyard. You've spoken 246 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.440 to that and you have you know, all these beautiful rows of vines that 247 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.440 are just outside the window. I'm sure you spend a lot of days walking 248 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:40.400 through the vineyards, spend a lot of time out there, especially because you're 249 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:44.559 a biodynamic producer, which means you are in touch with Earth. So I'm 250 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:48.160 curious. Do you ever talk to your vines? No, I don't. 251 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.920 It's funny. Wait, but talk to the lines. Good job, nice 252 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.880 job, Sue, you're behind Joe, you're doing great that I haven't done 253 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:59.119 that one. I don't. I don't sing too And I don't think it 254 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:03.240 really mat us. What I think that matters, truly be even this, 255 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:07.359 is that they know that I care. They know the weak here, the 256 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.160 vines can feel the weak here for them, and I think that's what is 257 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:18.119 really important. So are there any sort of good luck rituals that you do 258 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:19.960 at the start of harvest? I know that you're gearing up for another one 259 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:26.119 coming up in a few months. Any good luck rituals established good luck ritual 260 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.680 because it just make you sure everything is really and clean. And a very 261 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:36.599 important part of harvest is to make it a social thing. So like, 262 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:41.160 for instance, what happens and we day doing harvest, Rebecca cooks for everybody, 263 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.400 So all the meals we're having is made by Rebecca. And I think 264 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.599 that's one of the richels is that everybody who works at the house knows that 265 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:53.720 it's Rebecca's homemade cooking. So you know, we know that every vintage tells 266 00:18:53.720 --> 00:19:00.680 a different story. We're blessed here in California to have a lot of consistency 267 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.920 more or less, do you see more vintage variation or do you see more 268 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:08.400 commonalities from one year to another. I think we are seeing a little bit 269 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:15.119 more extremes nowadays. Like last year we had when HARS was just about to 270 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:19.519 start, we had six heatspiked days in a row. We've never seen that 271 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:25.079 perform six days in a row where it was above one hundred degrees. This 272 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:30.440 spring, we actually saw frost in the second week or May. I haven't 273 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.240 seen that paform, So just like what was that two weeks ago? A 274 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.359 week or so. I think we're just seeing more extremes nowadays. But our 275 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:47.680 extremes are really nothing, nothing compared to school, compared to the extremes that 276 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:51.319 you were seeing in Europe for examples. I mean, we we'll still talk 277 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:53.640 about them, and theyre enough to start bothering us a little bit. But 278 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.519 when you see about like the frost and the hill and whatever they've had in 279 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:03.640 different regions of Europe over the last five years, it's been crazy I think 280 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.200 our we are lucky that we are so close to the ocean were I mean 281 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:12.920 again, we're looking at the just an ocean funk that's rolling in by now, 282 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:18.640 and the Pacific Ocean is fairly stable in temperature with the cold temperature come 283 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:23.880 down from Alaska that we do see relatively stable situation here compared to many other 284 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:30.440 places. Aside from any sort of curveballs that Mother nature throws, are there 285 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.000 any signs, omens or predictors that you look for that are going to tell 286 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:40.880 you what a vintage is going to give you. We constantly look for what 287 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:45.400 the weather forecast is. We constantly look for how much wain we're going to 288 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:49.400 get, and these different facts. So let's talk about rainfall second. However, 289 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:53.920 it's rainfall where we are is fourteen inches a year, and it's a 290 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.400 message from first of July to the end of June. The next counter yea, 291 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:03.240 So it's basically over the winter twelve months and this year, over that 292 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.960 rain year, we got thirty four So we basically got two and a half 293 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:11.599 times Ebott's rainfall this winter, which is the highest we've ever seen. And 294 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.039 what does that do, well, it's very weird and all kind of problems 295 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.920 with the soil and erose and whatever. That's fine, we'll fix that. 296 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.839 But I think we can see right now in the growth of the vine. 297 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:27.000 The vine started late this year because it was a cold spring. It's still 298 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.880 a little bit chilly out there for the year. Bars with all the water 299 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.319 we have in the ground, I'm just seeing growth in the vines right now, 300 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.319 like absolutely, they're going nuts right now growing. It's really cool. 301 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.920 Interesting. So we're going to step away from wine for a second. And 302 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:48.519 I'm curious. You had a career in it prior. But when you were 303 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:49.440 a little boy, what did you want to be when you grew up? 304 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:53.880 I knew exactly once I read this book my parents had in Danias said. 305 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.440 I was called what can I become? And I was looking for how can 306 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:00.839 I make the most money? And it was either to become a doctor, 307 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:06.160 to become an attorneyer to become the engineer. And I didn't like doctors. 308 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.720 I didn't understand what an attorney was. So I want to become an engineer. 309 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:11.000 And that's what you did, exacted, That's what I did. And 310 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.000 my dream was to become the electronic engineer, which I ended up becoming even 311 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.480 though I never worked in the field, and I wanted to work for Bang 312 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.799 and Olus and it was a high end old stereo manufacturer. Then like that 313 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.440 didn't become part of the real thing. It did or didn I never worked 314 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.480 for Biano, but that was what I want to do. I think it 315 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:32.079 was ten years oldways that I want to be an engineer working for Bianno. 316 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:36.039 Wow. So when you're not working, how do you spend your free time? 317 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:38.519 Now? I mean, it's it's the question is what is work? 318 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:42.039 It's such a gray area, right, So you know, like right now 319 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:47.240 we're sitting having a nice time. It's great to see you again. We're 320 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.720 going to have a good evening with some good wine and food. And is 321 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:53.200 that work? Is it work we're doing right now? Is it when Purple 322 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:56.400 was here a few hours was at work? And you know this weekend we 323 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:02.640 spend it with some friends and and and it's a gray area. So what 324 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:06.200 do we do when we're having fun while we sold us still working? Very 325 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.920 often what we like to do is we like to take good care of our 326 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:14.880 bodies. We like to do your exercising. We like to do our weights 327 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.519 and our stretches in the morning. We like to go for hikes. We 328 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.079 really enjoyed traveling music without going to concerts. I was just playing you a 329 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:26.640 little bit of four weeks ago when I was at a Roger Waters concert and 330 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.759 Copenhagen recording some of that. We play music all the time, yet you 331 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:37.160 have a favorite band. Last time I saw Roger Waters was nineteen sixty eight. 332 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:38.960 I was ten years old. I've been a Pink Floyd fan since I 333 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.839 was nine years old. But we are very diversified in what we play on 334 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:48.200 music. What's that repect Jackson Brown? Repect it? I took that. 335 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.680 I know it's fine. I took it to a Jackson Brown concert. Yeah, 336 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:53.359 year ago, and she's like, who's that? And now the auto 337 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.920 places Jaxon Brown? And there was a little reggae playing when I walked in. 338 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:03.920 Yeah, of course we yea whatever that place. We just like to 339 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.319 We like to listen to different music all the time. Um, so you're 340 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:11.200 a big see over there in the corner right, I've got my fifth Finder 341 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.119 jazz bass over there. So Rugger Waters were to walk in right now, 342 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:19.319 which of your wines would you want to share with him? Definitely? It 343 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:25.200 depends upon who he's talking to output. Give a point mcclass and pinot. 344 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.559 Okay, so she's the Sarah girl, you're the Pino guy. What do 345 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.680 you guys drink for a romantic What makes her a romantic evening for the two 346 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:41.359 of you? Wine wise, yea and night have popped the botto sparkling wine. 347 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.960 It was good, a happy medium. Yeah. But if you want 348 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:51.319 to woo her, you open Sara. No I opened I know that is 349 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:56.680 her favorite. I will open up good. Uh huh. Okay, now 350 00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:00.119 we know. Now we know the secret. It's not a about a first 351 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:06.400 course a second course. It's about the one wine. Yea. So tell 352 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.519 me something. Is there a piece of advice? You know, we get 353 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:14.279 advice all the time, teachers, parents, colleagues, friends. Is there 354 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.680 a piece of advice someone gave you at some point that you carry through in 355 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.079 how you work, how you live, how you look at wine, anything, 356 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.680 something that stands out poly There's going to be a long one. So 357 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.480 I think that in general. First of all, I believe we have the 358 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.279 best job in the world farming grapes, making wine. There's nothing as good 359 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:38.240 as that, and we often have meet people that would like to do that. 360 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.119 And you just got to understand it takes a lot of money and to 361 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.400 be able to get to that point where you can make things hang together and 362 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:49.480 go grapes and making wine. So there's a there's a way you get into 363 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:53.319 that. So I think that for people who are interesting getting on that journey, 364 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:57.400 you'll pay the ticket and make some money first through a primary career and 365 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:02.920 then jump into and do it following. We believe that getting into this industry 366 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:07.599 has added years to our life and not to maintain incredible amount of pleasure to 367 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.759 our life. That's definitely something we I'll pass on. The other thing I'll 368 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:12.880 pass on is when I went to a business school many years ago, there 369 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:19.400 was a teacher I had that drew three concentric circles on the wall and in 370 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.559 the middle there's a green circle. Around that there's a yellow circle, and 371 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.519 outside of that red circle. His point is at the green circles where you're 372 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.920 saved. The yellow circle is where you're not quite sure. On the red 373 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.400 circle you're totally nervous, don't know what to do. The more you push 374 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.839 yourself into the yellow and into the red circle where you really want to get 375 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.880 back to the yellow and back into the green, the more you push yourself 376 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.039 out, the bigger your green circle get. So this old thing about push 377 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:51.519 yourself in life, push yourself into unknown territories, and by doing more and 378 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.319 more on that, you'll see how broad and your horizon you get. You 379 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:57.680 see how much currents you get. You'll see how much more curse you'll have 380 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:02.720 to keep on pushing yourself. And that too answers from family life, to 381 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:08.640 religion, to sports, to career, to hobbies and to everything. So 382 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:14.400 push yourself. I love that because you know my question is two part, 383 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.839 because first I ask you advice that you carry with you, and you gave 384 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.440 us advice. That's my second question to others. I love how the advice 385 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.480 you just gave. The second one is something that obviously you live by pushing 386 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:30.759 your boundaries constantly. So so when you look back at your career and it 387 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.119 doesn't have to be wine, it could be wine. But what would you 388 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:44.559 say is one of your proudest achievements to date that It's really interesting because Rebecca 389 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:49.119 and I met with a person a couple that we are because of India's unable 390 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:56.240 to mention a couple that is known by most people in the world and talk 391 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.599 to them about wines, presented wines, and we can talk mot about it, 392 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.400 but that is that is one of my biggest achievements in life to do 393 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:11.160 that. My second biggest achievement was that in the biggest celebration of Fourth of 394 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.640 July outside of the United States is acting Denmark. There's a park in northern 395 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:22.640 Denmark dedicated to US Fourth of July celebration where there's like ten twenty thousand people 396 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:29.200 every year up there. And in twenty fifteen I was invited to be the 397 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:33.880 main speaker at that event and on the Danish television whatever. And now that 398 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.480 was a very proud moment for me. As well. Some years ago I 399 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:44.559 was given the American Danish Innovation Price for the work we've done on organing part 400 00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:49.039 and sustainable farming. And then the fact that I for a number of years 401 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.759 I've been on the board of directors of the California is Sustainable Wine Growing Alliance, 402 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.359 which is the biggest sustainable certification program in the world. I've been the 403 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:02.079 chairman for a couple of years of it. Those are good. Yeah, 404 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.720 you've achieved quite a lot. I think there's probably more to achieve. I'm 405 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:11.440 curious. You know, we've talked a lot about wine, food and wine. 406 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.440 All the dinners you do. Obviously, wine plays a part. You 407 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.519 said that you and Rebecca drink probably eight nights a week. So complete this 408 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:25.880 sentence. For me, A table without wine is like a bad table. 409 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.359 No, there're got to be a bad one, is like because like you, 410 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.519 food without salts. Yeah, that's probably a good one. Yeah, 411 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:38.480 all right, that's good about that. Okay. So you have a big 412 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.559 dining room table here, you set up a big meal, You've got your 413 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.200 bottles of wine on the table, but there's an empty seat at the table. 414 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.440 Who from any walk of life, living or deceased would you want to 415 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:55.000 share a bottle of ampelos with? Wow, that's a good one. Alive 416 00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:59.079 or dead, up to you. I think that one of them would be 417 00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:03.440 Rudo's Dina. The problem is he didn't drink alcohol. He was a founder 418 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.799 of the Biodynemy, thinking he would be an interesting person to talk to. 419 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:15.200 So obviously you were talking about these extreme weather things, you know, kind 420 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.680 of putting this all together just as a thought on this. We talk about 421 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.000 these weather extremes, and we know that there's climate change, and you refer 422 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.200 it a little bit to this in talking about being in the Vadere and such. 423 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:33.119 Curiously think we'll be drinking wine and five hundred years you know what I 424 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.960 think I would have to answer? Unfortunately, not really. I think that 425 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:44.519 the whole world is moving too fast in the wrong direction, and too few 426 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:51.480 people really seem to care about it. So unfortunately, I'm not sure that 427 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.920 that we are still going to be in a situation in five hundred years from 428 00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.000 now where it would be viable to produce wines. I know it doesn't sound 429 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.359 very positive, but I'm just I mean, we see things changing right now, 430 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.599 and like I said, there are too few people seem to really pay 431 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.039 attention. One of the things that we began. I constantly ask each others 432 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.960 what can we do? We can't do a whole lot because we're so small, 433 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.640 but what can we do to change things? We took twenty five acres 434 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.559 of our property and planted wines in them, and we know that that has 435 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.160 a good impact on modern nats. We've seen how we have been healing the 436 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.640 soil over the years that we've been doing our queen farming, organic pattern and 437 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.519 whatever farming here. But I just believe that there are too few people in 438 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:41.079 the world that seems to pay attention to this, and considering that it is 439 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:48.400 every half an hour we're losing a football field of soil to urban development and 440 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.519 to erosion in California itself, it is like just scaring what's going on? 441 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.440 Yeah, Well, so if that were happening right away and you were sent 442 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.559 to a deserted island, what three wines would you want to take with you? 443 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.880 Any three wines. Probably a bunch of wines. I've never had the 444 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:10.839 money to taste in my life, so it would be some of them are 445 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.200 just kind of the obvious. Let's just get back to the domain Roman equnt 446 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.519 o five from the Roman E County vinyard, because I would tried, I 447 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.880 wanted tried rot me, I'll be wound, and the task from the Nabi 448 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.240 vinyards. Another wine to bring would be a really old chat to decam I 449 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:35.119 think with these is a super exciting to bring over there, and I would 450 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:45.359 probably bring some oats and the ice wine from most of them, and a 451 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:51.119 surah of course, a good chat of the top. You get a fourth 452 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.640 wine because you bring her back on with you. Well to go to a 453 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.039 happier place, because you know it is a little sad to think about where 454 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.640 things are going or could be going, but to get to a happier place. 455 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.799 Let's go back to music. Because you are a music fan, play 456 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:07.920 a little game, you know, wine soundtrack. We gotta pair wine with 457 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.359 music. So I want you to pair some of your wines with music, 458 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.720 what they make you think of. And I want to start with the Claret 459 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.960 Blanche that we have been enjoying while we've been talking. Okay, so it's 460 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.680 kind of a lot a min reality. It's got a lot of things sticking 461 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:28.599 out, so it would probably be it would be something a little bit more 462 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:34.680 noisy in it. It might be you know, what, does Danye's music 463 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:40.039 counts? I can think about some great Dani's music. I will grew up 464 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.680 with a Dani's band called Sevats Rose and any set was a sing on that 465 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.799 band, and he had that screaming voice and I could see it just totally 466 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.519 fits with their claret banks. I love it. I love it. Okay, 467 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:58.960 what about um Peanut Noir? Now you name your wines by they have 468 00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.799 names like row and pie right right exactly? Quick characters? Yes? And 469 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.799 so how many different Peanut no wires? Studio? So we do four different 470 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:12.440 peanut noires. We do our Saint Rita Hills and then we do a Lambter 471 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.199 row and a new where the new is about sic single clone, row is 472 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:22.280 about select multiple clone and lambda is the main one. Let's do lambda. 473 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:28.159 So what I would pair with a lambda is that it's a I mean, 474 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.960 I'm getting back to some of my favorite stuff. You know, some pink 475 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:37.599 Floyd. My favorite pink Floyd is just like wish You Were Here from the 476 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.880 album Wish You Were Here, And it's just such a nice soft song and 477 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:45.960 I think it would just work perfectly with a bottle of lambter And what about 478 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.880 Sarah? Oh, so Sarah, you need a little bit more bombastic stuff. 479 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.079 You need it with something with a little bit more written to it and 480 00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.119 saying you know what, what do you think, honey? What music would 481 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:10.039 you pier with your sura? Ask that's a good battle. That's getting her 482 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.559 off the hook because she you know, she's hiding over there. Yeah, 483 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.840 she's hiding over there. So I might pick some some No, I think 484 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.920 I had to go to do some a little bit more classic rock and roll 485 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.719 kind of stuff. I can think about a good a couple of good rolling 486 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.480 stones, songs. Yeah, yeah, good. And you see how I 487 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.920 did that? Your favorite piano, her favorite sura. You got music. 488 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.639 It's a perfect evening. Yep, exactly. Well, we have come to 489 00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:43.039 the end. I have one final two part question for you. The first 490 00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.639 part is what wine region of the world is at the top of your bucket 491 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:52.880 list to visit? Ah That is interesting? What because we really love to 492 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:59.239 Probably because we never been there. Probably Mendoza. We've never been spending time 493 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:04.599 in Southern America, so that would probably be one. Because we've done We've 494 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:08.480 been in most of the world's wine meetings all over, never been there. 495 00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.880 That might be the top. Is that one you have in mind? Honey? 496 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:20.400 One Alaskan wine? We did Alaskan wine story. So, so we 497 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.920 were up in Alaska years ago and she took she grew up there, and 498 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.840 she took me around and we met with this guy who was a wine by 499 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:34.639 our fours and wine stores. Sorry, and rebeggan him started talking about wines 500 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:42.519 and excuse me, m and there is wine made in Alaska from milk milk, 501 00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:49.039 white milk milk. So he said that they had they have like one 502 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.880 bottle every year. They're big auction, big live auction and they have these 503 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:57.679 live bux and items, and one of the oxide items is this bottle of 504 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:05.000 milk wine, Alaskan milk wine wine. It was early on and it was 505 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:13.000 a monastory. They've made it. Wow. So so what they do is 506 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.480 that they put this on the auction item and somebody pays a lot of monified 507 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.880 and then next year brings the same bottle back again because nobody do want to 508 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.000 drink that stuff? And you never you never bought it and just drank it. 509 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:30.519 Nobody. Well, okay, So the second part of that question is 510 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:35.199 if somebody is coming here to the Sandinez Valley, to the Santary To Hills, 511 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.239 how can they find you and how can they taste your wines? Is 512 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:43.320 this great? Think all the internet? So it just I'll go on google 513 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:49.280 it, google implos ampelisms. But do not find the resort in Greece, 514 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.119 because while that's wonderful, that's his sisters. You want to find the winery 515 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:59.840 in California. I know somebody who's been there right down. So google empolos. 516 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.639 Go to the social media. Were on Instagram, were on Facebook, 517 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:08.800 we are on Twitter, LinkedIn whatever. Come to our eastern room, buy 518 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.480 some wines, have a good time. And the tasting room is in the 519 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.320 Lumpec Wine Ghetto, yes exactly, which is right at the eastern part of 520 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:22.800 Lumpo and it's open so five days a week, Thursday through Monday from eleven 521 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.639 two five to four on Monday, and we actually on Thursday and Friday, 522 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.000 and a couple of weeks we're starting up doing a little wine by in the 523 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.679 evening until seven o'clock. Come join us. Fantastic So you can't drink eight 524 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.800 nights a week with them, but you can drink five nights a week with 525 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.159 them. Peter, thank you so much for joining us on Wine Soundtrack. 526 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.880 I hope you had fun and let's go drink some wine. Let's do that. 527 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.480 Alison, great to see you and let's have a great time. Yere 528 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:52.320 cheers. Thanks for listening to a new episode of Wine Soundtrack USA. For 529 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:57.719 details and updates, visit our website Wine soundtracks dot com.