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Hey, this is Nat Mundel.
I'm the founder of Voyage and I'm super

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excited to introduce our listeners today to
Malik Yoba, who plays Reggie in our

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contemporary noir, very cool scripted podcast
series called Red Meat Village. You probably

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know Malik from his performances in Cool
Runnings, New York Undercover and more recently

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The Last O g among many other
credits over thirty forty year acting career.

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So, Malik, thanks so much
for joining us. Really appreciate it.

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Good here many background, Well,
the podcast listeners are going to have to

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imagine that. So, yes,
there is a there is a golf course

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behind me and as I, as
I disclosed to Malik somewhat embarrassingly, I

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am not a golfer. Well,
Malik and I were just getting acquainted and

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we learned, uh, you know, Malik, that you've got a passionate

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interest in voiceover work. Was this
your first scripted podcast series? And are

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you a big listener of podcasts?
I do listen. Yeah, I listened

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like Sam Harris and um uh Christia
Tipic, I'm like really cerebral when it

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comes back. And I listened a
lot of like educational podcasts like spiritual or

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personal development. On writing. I
listened to drink Champs that not you know

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that hip hop. But this is
the first scripted one that I've done.

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Um. Yeah, I've done an
audio book, two audio books. Um,

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some other voices that we work with
brands and not enough cartoons and characters

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and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, well, right on. We're

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so thrilled you accepted the role of
this character Reggie who. Um, you

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know he's kind of a renaissance man. He's a champion boxer. Uh and

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this part time private detective. It's
an interesting combo. Um, he's really

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well my character to development, what's
happen? It's like my character the rest

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of development. He was a party
planner and and and a private private eye.

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Yeah. So what were your reactions
when you first read the script and

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about the character, Like what attracted
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number one, my agent Sherry.
Every time she called with any opportunity to

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do voice work, I'm always saying
cool. And then she said, hey,

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it's really cool. I have some
other clients of doing it. Um.

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To be honest with you, I
didn't really read it before. I

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gotta be and then I read it
when I did it with Dan. But

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once I did it, I just
thought it was cool. Like I skimmed

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it. She told me what it
was. I had no idea it was.

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For me. It was sort of
like, um, let me just

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jump into this thing called Read and
Meat Village and see what it is.

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So it's kind of fun to discover
along the way that set in Brooklyn that

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the character is. Um. Yes, it was a lot of fun,

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man. You know, I call
right away it said, I want to

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do one of these ones a week. And even though it's it's it's rooted

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in US, even though it's contemporary
story, it's rooted in noir. Have

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you done noir before? And and
how has it played into your performance?

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No? I haven't. I mean
I did grow up listening to the shadow.

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Is that that should have been from
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I think basically anything that came out
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with crime and stuff as by nature, right right? Yeah? Yeah?

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So was that cool for you to
jump into that? Yeah? Yeah,

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it's you know, it's funny because
I'm a writer as well, and I

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um, in some ways you guys
after my own heart, because um,

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I was touring with shows in the
black community. Like so Tyler Perry's whole

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career was based on those storing plays
that was like most mainstream media and Hollywood

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wasn't aware of. But it's very, very lucrative and very popular. So

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I was doing those for like tennimal
fifteen years and TV. But I had

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this idea to sort of start a
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order to see what happens, you
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toe the rest of your kind of
thing. So this kind of reminds me

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of that. You know, you
can sort of create these worlds that people

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can enter into, get emotionally invested
into, and in this case, right

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they can become film or they can
become a live action a theater production or

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whatever. So absolutely, yeah,
yeah, we're sorry to say that again.

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No, it's because that you're chapping
into my interests, that's all.

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That's cool. Yeah, we we
one of the primary reasons we we built

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out this podcast unit was to do
just that. You know, we got

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a lot of film and television projects, um and in some cases these podcasts

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that we're doing, like you know, they strategically aligned for sure, because

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as you know, it's like the
hot new way that Hollywood is discovering.

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Ip um. But uh, but
in some cases we're doing like these prequel

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you know, sort of side story
things that introduce a character, and then

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our television show that we're also out
pitching just expands on that universe. Right,

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So yeah, we we think that's
a really cool UM model. UM

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all right, So you know,
you were, of course in New York

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Undercover and you've done work in the
crime space for quite a while. Where

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do you think Reggie and Tony fit
into that history of PI? You know,

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private investigator duos, Like what makes
them unique? What do they call?

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What are they similar to? Um? Well, I mean I think

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UM one is sent in Brooke and
it does tappen too a little bit about

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New York under Cover origins. At
this point, this would be number nineteen.

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Wow, I just did a film
for Netflix, Got a Good Nurse,

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where I was Please Captain Sheriff.
Actually, so that that was eighteen.

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This is nineteen some law enforcement related
character. But um, I always

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liked the buddy cop kind of genre, right, you know how they are

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each other's foiled kind of thing even
as they go after crime. The banter

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between them the ship talking in the
case. Um, this like sort of

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that they have around this eaic contest
that you know, uptfullly win. Um,

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I like it. It's short.
Yeah, well you clearly have this,

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you know, sort of well regarded
history of dramatic performances and a lot

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of your work. But you know
a lot of people you know, may

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not know your comedy work as as
especially as recently. Um, you know,

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but you've really pulled together some incredible
comedic performances and cool runnings and arrested

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development and you know, so these
two characters, you know, and they're

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also in that Origin of War,
there's some there's some banter there, and

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we're able to draw in some of
that comedy as long as then your producer

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was lacking even though like I had
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the screen the other half I could
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him my perpery and whenever its head, it is that kind of an audience

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of one. So I think I
nailed it. But a yeah, what

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I want to do more for sure? Yeah? Very cool. So you

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know, on that note, what's
next for you? What are you working

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on? What do you want your
fans to know about what's coming up,

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well that good nurse film. Um, I'm actually sitting here editing. Between

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this interview, I'll go back to
a doc series I created called The Real

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Estate Mixtape, which is actually a
docu series on my journey in real estate

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development, which is another thing I
do. So I'm finding the storytelling aspects

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of all these different businesses. I
mean, so, whether it's real estate,

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um, I've joined it, gotten
into Canada space, whether it's scripted

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one hour's comedies, half hours,
I'm just being really really productive, especially

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over the last couple of years that
the world is kind of slow down.

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You're officially a Zoolander Slashy. You
know the movie Zoolander, the Slashy Awards,

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it was like actor slash actor.
Yeah, man, I mean you

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know. I mean, look,
if you're building the platform, look if

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you're if you're only an actor,
you're always waiting on a job. Oh

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yeah, you have a good time. Well, good for you for you've

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made a career where you're not waiting
too long, you know, over over

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that period. Such an extraordinary career
you've had so far. But yeah,

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I mean I'm a I'm a Slashy
I'm a producer slash golfer. Right,

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we just learned that. I thought
I'm not a I'm a producer slash live

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on a golf course golfer, But
don't golf slash heat. Just you know,

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just find as many ways to be
created and tell the kind of stories

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I want to tell. I've really
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and directing and yeah, being just
being a storyteller holding a whole vision.

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So that's that's you know, It's
just one of those things like when I

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pursued when I decided to leave my
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my job running a group called a
City Kids Foundation before I did Cool Running

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Um, it was a moment where
I had to decide. After I did

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Cool Runnings, I went back to
the organization. We had a Saturday morning

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show with the Muppets I was writing
music for, and I decided I was

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only going to make money of my
art. And along the way, I've

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always had different entrepreneurial interest restaurants to
the marketing company music tech, um.

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But now it's just really um a
lot of development that the world will see

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eventually when I leased it onto the
world. But it's awesome, man.

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Well, one of our we have
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sort of under play everything we do
at the company, and one of them

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is be creative. And I think, you know, that's sort of the

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obvious one for Voyage, which is
like we're in a creative industry. But

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I think creativity is so much more
than just the the production of art for

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example, it's you know, there's
creative problem solving, there's innovation as creativity.

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So you know, I'm a big
believer in in everyone finding a way

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to constantly creatively express and so like
I'm a musician, so I try to,

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you know, creatively express that way. I creatively express in a lot

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of my business pursuits and try to
do things differently and stuff. But it's

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always wonderful to hear about another another
soul out there that just can't help themselves

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but produce creative work. Well,
you know, I just wrote a song

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for you for Dage Me Village that
was like a little improv and like we

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got to use that. I won't
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guys and ask cap writer since ninety
one musicians, well I get it,

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no, And it's funny because I
think that especially for listeners, any creatives

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out there, especially young people,
Like if I would have known that business

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was creative it was, if it
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have been a different journey for me
as a kid. I'm glad I always

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have an entreceneurial spirit and like the
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creative if you're a creative being,
and I think the misnomer of our entertainment

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industry is a lot of times people
aren't creative and then that visionary and you

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see things, particularly if you're just
an active I've been on shows where I've

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come up with complete marketing campaign for
the show and before we even shot a

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pilot, just based on what I
saw on the script, I understood all

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the touch points and strategy to build
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to the exaction. It can make
people uncomfortable because in some case they want

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you to be in your position,
but you're I'm a boss. When that

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signs tigned in front of the check, I understand that position. When I

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signed the back of the check,
I understand that position. And sometimes folks,

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you know, UH don't want you
to do those things you could just

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in their eye, just the actor, but exactly point yeah, exactly.

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And the industry is as as you've
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loves to pigeonhole, right, and
then loves hierarchy and loves power dynamics.

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It's long standing tradition, I mean, and and we endeavor to sort of

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be the antithesis of that. And
I strive as the the owner and and

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CEO of the company to keep the
company as flat as possible, right where

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ideas and great great ideas come from
anywhere, no hierarchy, correct, yeah,

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like exactly, And so everyone is
involved at the company in our strategic

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planning, and everybody there's no We
try to prevent silimization as much as possible,

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and of course that's a challenge when
you're also very operational and trying to

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execute on very specific deliverables, like
you need people to still do their jobs

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right, like the Caddyshack line.
The world needs ditch diggers too, right,

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But but we try to bring the
ditch digger into all of the creative

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conversations. You know, can you
a little bit of your journey, because

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as you know, you're a bit
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lead a creative business. And as
you define this flat to allow for creativity

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to come from anywhere, what motivated
that for you? You know, it's

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it's it's multifaceted number one. You
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to answer that with we think there's
a better way of doing things, or

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at least a different way, and
that that different, friendly, open source

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approach creates a context in which better
creativity can emerge. Right, That's the

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smart answer. And then the other
answer, which is a little bit of

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a window into me, like I
have a little bit of a middle finger

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to you know, closed circuits,
right and to you know, sort of

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old boys clubs. And that goes
long, I mean frankly long standing back

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to when you know, I was
in high school. I was never unpopular,

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but I was like always one step
removed from the popular group, like

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the really the big sort of crowd
that was like the epicenter of everything.

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And and I never, you know, I never liked that. I always

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was really a big fan of inclusion
an accessibility. And so when I see,

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you know, an industry that has
for so long been about exclusion and

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non accessibility, I have a little
bit of an attitude problem with that,

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and that attitude problem, you know, coupled together with the belief that you

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know there there ought to be a
different way of doing things, just drives

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me. You know, do you
do you know you're doing right now?

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It's a little question. You are
affirming what I preach every single that.

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The reason why I created the Real
Estate Mixtape is because I'm both in the

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real estate development business. I'm in
the film business, and I was doing

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the show Godfriended Me, and I
was playing a real estate developer, and

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I live here in Brooklyn, and
I thought about the amount of productions in

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this neighborhood. Godfriended Me shot two
minutes down the block to the film studio,

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signed the studio for me, and
I thought about how many people walked

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by film sets all day long,
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I have no idea how to get
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both, and I love working with
young people, and so I decided to

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film my journey pursuing my first development
deal in the city. I took seven

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young people that I randomly selected from
around the city and took them on a

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journey over six weeks across the state
of New York to give them access to

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the process. So now created is
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estate deals and inclusion right. And
so recently we screened the first two episodes

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in a location abandoned rail station that's
being renovated by a woman, young black

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woman in the Bronx who's under resourced
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and she's in and so is that
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way of using art, creativity,
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economic development all at one. So
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appreciate that because I have a bit
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I've been in the game, you
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last few days, you know,
doing press for Cool Running because making Box

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Player team is now back. I
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cast me in my very first film
in nineteen eighty nine, Danny Reggie Life,

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to ask me if I wanted to
go Shakespeare with him up in the

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Berkshires this summer. And it's interesting
because I feel like everything's kind of come

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in full circle for me, especially
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hear you say what you said,
that speaks to me. And as an

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entrepreneur, I'm gonna offer you something
I would love to help you build your

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business. I have. I'm connected
for a lot of creatives, particularly folks

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that look like me. So what
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they're Jamaicans that look like you that
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that most Jamaicans look like me.
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Jamaican cas and like I said,
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I read it yesterday or two days
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we have to mount this. And
so please take a listen to that

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or read it and see if that
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collaborate and that could be that other
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feed you some opportunities that we could
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and and I'm a yes to that
for sure. And I think Dan

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has your email, so we won't
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it is important. I think for
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moved different, like when I did
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As a for instance, and this
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We were feeling. I don't know
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I played Janet Jackson's husband in that
film, and as a scene right

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before my character is about to get
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a new lover. That's another.
But we're filming the scene and holding was

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in an advertising I didn't realize it
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I'm standing in the building as we're
waiting to shoot and I said, so

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what is this place? And someone
said it's ANETTI. I said, well,

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there's checks in here and I'm going
to get them. When Tyler's ready

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called me and I started snooping around
the office. There's a meeting going on

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where the agency is pitching a brand
to be the agency of Rector. I

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happen to know a little something about
that business. They invited me to shit

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down. I contributed to the meetings
and it turns into years of doing business

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with that company, creating content for
a bunch of brands and so for particularly

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people who think in one's way,
and they're only actors. I think that

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it's okay to be a little disruptive
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filming another movie. Yeah, you
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Um but yeah, I mean,
I a couple of stories come to

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mind. These are funny stories.
I don't think I've ever told them publicly,

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but um, one was actually I'll
I was thinking about this one story,

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but this is a better one.
This is the more pivotal one.

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So I you know, I came
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I had had already had a different
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approaching thirty years old when I really
you know, I'd sort of come up

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through the camera department a little bit
for a couple of years. But then

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I was like, I need to
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so I moved to LA I got
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company. So I was like a
thirty year old assistant, right, And

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in my second week on the job, you know, I was stepping fetching

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it whatever I was getting, I
don't know. I was walking down the

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hall. And this was a TV
commercial production company, largely Brandon entertainment and

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TV commercials, and so they repped
directors. And I was walking by this

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director's office, this big like really
you know, heyday, big time TV

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commercial director, and his door was
wide open, and he goes, I

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need a screenwriter. He was really
frustrated, and I walked. I took

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like four more steps past the office, and I was like, should I

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or shouldn't I? And I said
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his office and I said, Hey, Tom, I can write, and

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He's like, okay, then write
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him, and he won that gig, right, and you know, a

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production gig, and that gave birth
really to you know, that moment of

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being willing to stick my neck out
gave birth to me getting into business for

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myself, right, and then the
other story which came later. So now

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I'm about five years into running the
original Voyage, and the original Voyage was

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a Creative Services secret weapon, like
companies like Jerry Bruckheimer would hire us to

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help them develop their TV show pitches
and then put together these really great pitch

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decks for him and stuff. About
five years into building that, I got

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a call from this restaurant consultant who
had been hired by an ad agency to

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find the restaurant's new agency. And
I had a conversation with him and I'm

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like, well, we're not really
an agency, and he's like, well

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you should. He was this really
wonderful old man named Ray Cohen. And

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Ray Cohens goes, he goes,
well, just you know, meet me

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down at the restaurant tomorrow, right, And I'm like, okay, what's

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the address? And so I meet
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It's this chain called Island's Restaurants.
There's like sixty of them, right,

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It's a ligit chain. And I
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know, I basically I didn't know, you know, much about anything,

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and I just laid it out.
I said, this place I think is

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a you know, a bit of
a disaster in today's world, Like it

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needs a complete, you know,
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lose because I wasn't in the ad

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agency business anyway. So he said, okay. He's like, all right,

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Nat, well, you know,
I'm bit these other two big agencies

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and I'm looking for a small upstart, you know, and and uh,

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and I'd like to include you.
And I said, well, I'm sorry,

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you know, I really appreciate that, but we're not an agency.

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And he's like, okay, so
tomorrow call me and let me know that

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you're in. And I'm like,
but we're not an age. He's like,

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tomorrow, call me. And that's
when I got the window. I

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was like, oh, this is
a guy who's trying to throw me a

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bone, right, And so what
I did is I was ill, you

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know, I sorry to be so
long winded with this, but great story.

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So I go, who do I
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I had met this guy in New
York at a wedding and I remember he

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worked at an ad agency, and
so I call him up and I said,

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hey, remember me and he's like
yeah. I'm like, what are

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you up to. He's like,
well, we left the you know,

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Chris and I my my my creative
director partner. We left the agency.

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We started our little you know shop
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like, you want to go in
on a on an agency of record deal,

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and so we did a deal over
the phone, like just handshake,

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right, And it comes to my
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this is Islands for everyone. If
you don't know what that is a burger

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chain, right, it's casual dining, burger restaurant, sixty stores. It

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comes to light that Chris and Greg
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fries because they they ran h Burger, they ran Wendy's, right, they

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ran all the big fast food chains
for as creative directors. And so,

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you know, fast forward a month
and a half later, we won the

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account and all of a sudden we
were an agency and uh, you know,

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so when opportunity calls, like you
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and h yeah that you know, that

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was a it was a little blip
on the voyage radar because you know,

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frankly, the recession hit the next
year and the agency went under. But

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but yeah, I think more to
the point is you listen into that voice

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that said no, no, no, no, don't take a fifth step.

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That's right, yeah, yeah,
and know that you're deserving. As

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we're talking, it hit me.
Yes, I talked to Dan and said,

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hey, Dan, I have this
this script, but hearing your story

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as a fellow entrepreneur. In my
spirit, I was like, I need

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to tell this man, I can
handle we can build your business. We

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can help you do that. I
know a lot of folks, and you

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know, it's a space of it. So if you're away, yeah,

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that's very that's very sweet and clearly
genuine offer. And I'll follow up with

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you on that. And yeah,
I mean if you could imagine what you

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know, there's the business we're building, and there's what the business does,

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but the underpinning of what we're actually
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this like imagine this like heart centered, like lighthouse out there in the dark,

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lashing its lights, you know,
saying like hey it's okay, we're

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here, we can do this.
We're you know, come, it's safe

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here. It's nurturing, right,
and to be that beacon of what's possible,

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And that's really the game we love
to play. So it seems like

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it seems like that's a you know, embedded in your soul longstanding. Rather

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listen, man, I'm gonna be
really transparent. I had quadruple bypassed heart

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surgery. In argument. Oh my
gosh, well we're so glad you're here,

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man. Yeah, I did not
realize that I had blocked artery with

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a fit lifestyle and you know,
good health, eating and working out.

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But it's a genetic predisposition to gift
from the answer, and so use it's

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true, and it's a real existential
time for me. And you know,

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I'm resisting the status quo right now
that I'm expected, oh, just getting

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another series. I've been in the
series leading fourteen series and whether it's been

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six episodes, the pilot, ten
episode, twenty shows get canceled. I

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don't own any of that ip and
so I'm at a place in my life

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where I'm a boss. I can't
and I'm still getting hey, can you

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come read so this? You know, recovering on the s W Show.

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Right, that's the reality, folks, if you're an actor, Like look

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up the credit on IMDb. How
much I've done since nineteen ninety three,

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thirty years in this business, and
it's still can you sing for your supper?

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You know, I do get a
you know, a fair amount of

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offers, but you know it's still
contingent on someone else saying yes, And

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I like, like you, there's
so many creatives out here right this this

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guy David Herron who wrote this play. I have a friend in Jamaica that

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sent me to play six months ago. I was only able to get to

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it two days ago, and I
finally read it and I was like,

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Jesus Christ is fucking hilarious. This
is genius. You know, it's hitting

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all the emotions for me. I
couldn't wait to finish reading it. I'm

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on page thirty five, was one
hundred page play, and I had to

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call him just to let him know, just to give him that little shot

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in his arm to say, you
have some fire here. I can't wait

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to finish. And he immediately called
the friends in Jamaica and so for him

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to have Malik Yo. But you
know, CO signed his work, which

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he didn't eat my pop. He's
already had success with it, but he's

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been trying to get to the next
level. And there's a good people like

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that that I know. I have
as much satisfaction. You're a musician,

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I'm a musician. I know what
it's like to transcend when you're performing,

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and you know that what that feels
like. You get to the same place

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performing as an actor. There are
these transcendental or transcendent moments you can have

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when you give yourself over to this
spirit of creativity and arrive at these places

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that people go, oh, my
fucking god, what was that? I

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don't know. Yeah, I get
the same pleasure from watching a David having

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success with his play or any other
creatives that I know that are out there.

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So I really love what you're doing. Um. I could feel your

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energy and your sincere. I felt
it with Dan as well. And you

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know, like I said, um, you guys have my contact and I'd

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love to play. Yeah, awesome, can't wait. Well, you guys

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heard it here this Uh, this
was a conversation that started one way and

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ended another. And isn't that?
Isn't that, in some respects just the

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wonderful way life goes. So here
we are, Uh you can um find

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Red Meat Village. Remember that's the
show we were talking about. Yeah,

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you heard it here the soundtrack.
You heard a sneak feature back here.

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You know I wrote the tool the
stool running too. By the way,

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did you really help people to day? You know they can't believe Jimmy Cole.

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We have a Bob Slay team.
We have the one they re done,

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the one Junior and Jimmy Kuns print
to Olympic Facy Jimmica. I wrote

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that for my audition and so,
oh my god, ope call and they

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said, um, your tracks are
you Runner rate Celebrate and every Jamaica of

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the song in their heartstop pulled it
out. It ended up in a movie.

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Oh my god, that's amazing.
That's amazing. Well, I can't

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wait for Red Meat Village to come
out. Listeners, thank you so much

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for tuning in with us. You
can find it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify

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or anywhere you listen to podcasts.
And huge shout out and big gratitude to

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Malik Yoba for joining us today.
Thank you so much, Malik for your

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time and generosity of spirit. Yeah. This is Nat Moundel signing off