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They're hinner it now by Billy Cunningham, the great American. Of course,

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Red Space Park kicks off about six
o five to night. They look terrible

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last night. In fact, the
last four games, the pitching stats giving

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up, giving up about ten runs
a game, ten runs a game,

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and obviously the Red's offense can't overcome
that. We'll see what happens tonight with

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ebit and more, But until then, Liz Bonus is, of course the

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great medical reporter for Channel twelveh w
KRCTV, doing stories about Taylor Swift,

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about Red's mental health, about the
new virus going around, about the Wardenburger,

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and more. Liz Bonus, Welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show and

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Liz. Let's kick it off first
with the Wardenburger. I had on the

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Sheriff about an hour ago talking about
how nutritious it is and how you want

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to avoid that. But you may
have a little bit of a different take

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on the wardenburger. Before we talk
about being a swiftie. Give me your

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give me your thoughts on the Sheriff
serving the same meal three times a day,

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which is it looks like a piece
of meat loaf between two dry pieces

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of white bread and all the water
you can drink. As a medical reporter,

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well, what is your sense of
that? So I actually have this

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seriph come on our health so this
week you can see the burger at what's

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happening in health dot com and we
try those burgers. They taste an awful

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lot like tomato paste. I will
say that there's a lot of tomato paste

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in there, so you know,
I'm a dietition by trade. It is

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a healthful meal. The ingredients are
Turkey and it's like a little bit of

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a you know, celery onion carrots
mix. You know, that's like a

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soft meatloaf, a little dry.
But the problem I have is it's kind

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of inhumane. You already have a
person in isolation and then three meals today

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you're giving them this, which will
meet nutritional needs. But come on,

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you know, at some point we
all know that using food as punishment or

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reward is not the best system.
And so you know your parents did that

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stuff, and that's how you end
up. Like I don't know if you

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grew up in a big family,
but food was scarce, so we would

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hoard food. Like I've done entire
health segments on you know, they bring

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in a bunch of stuff that you
wanted, and so you know, in

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our house, you weren't allowed to
bring food to your room. So I

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would take like a banana and right
on it, you know, eat this

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and die because I wanted it for
breakfast and it wouldn't be there the next

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day. You know, if you
grew up in a big family, you

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know what the whole food is reward
of punishment thing is about. It's horrible

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and you're always fighting over food and
you're waiting for food, and you want

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food, and I don't know that
that's the best thing to do when someone's

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already in solitary confinance. Well,
you're an expert Dietitian. Medical reporter Richard

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K. Jones began as a jailer
himself and the LCI Levin Correctional Institution and

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which William C. Dallman was the
warden. He's dealing with the worst of

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the worst. It's hard to get
to jail today. And if you get

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to jail, you got to behave, and if you don't behave, then

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you go into isolation. It's a
solitary confinement. You get out one hour

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a day and you eat three meals
a day of this wardenburger, and after

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twenty one times eating out, you're
probably tired of it. Do you think

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it's like a form of punishment to
eat the wardenburger when you shouldn't be there

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in the first place. And the
sheriff's point was, look, you know

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what's coming. If you act up
in jail. You're getting fights. Here,

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kick, somebody steals some buddy stuff, you go to solitary confinement called

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isolation control, and part of the
punishment is not having good food. Of

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course, the food in the jail
is not too good anyway, This is

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a step below. So what would
you concede? He probably knows more about

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confinement than you do, but you
know more about dietitians than he does.

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Maybe the twain could meet. Would
you eat the wardenburger if you had too,

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if you were hungry, wouldn't you
eat it? Yes? And I

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did try it, So I want
you to know I am giving an informed

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taste. I'm simply saying, Willie, all of us, like it or

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not, have had friends and relatives
in the prison system. You know that.

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Well, the person who started the
fight gets in solitary confinements. So

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to the person who is often the
victim of the fight. So I'm not

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a real san of you know,
They're only supposed to be in there seven

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days, and lots of times they're
in there much longer. And so I'm

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just saying I have a new empathy
for some of our justice system things as

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I've gotten very humbled and I've seen
what can happen in people's lives, and

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I think there's a lot of people
in prison that shouldn't be, in a

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lot of people behaving that should be. And I'm just saying, I'm just

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saying, hey, I really think
right now that the food thing, you

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know, I guess that it's not
nutritious, but whether or not the only

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thing you have to look forward to
in solitary confinement of food, and you're

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taking that away too. I'm just
saying, a touch of humaneness, okay

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with me? Possibly the inmate,
knowing what's coming, will refrain from the

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behavior that put him in jail in
the first place. And if you go

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to solitary confinement, you're like the
worst or the worst, But I guess

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you and the sheriff can agree to
disagree. Secondly, I head you on

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repeatedly with COVID nineteen. And there's
a big flap going on in Washington which

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has become politicized that the Republicans want
to say it came from the lab Ruhan

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Lab, and the Democrats want to
say it came from a wet market.

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Now in either case, when I
have on congressmen and have on representatives of

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the medical industry from Washington, they
tell me that most likely the American taxpayer

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paid for the creation of COVID nineteen, so that in a Wuhan lab you

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could try chures for the variations of
COVID nineteen. There you could do things

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there you can't do the United States
of America. So we've largely come through

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the COVID nineteen since I guess February
or March of twenty twenty. My gosh,

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it's been three and a half years. It can Liz Bonus give one

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or two lessons to learn from this
pandemic as it relates to Greater Cincinnati.

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You and I can recall the hospitals
overrun cities are shut down, certain businesses

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open, some not. Are there
one or two lessons that come to your

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mind as an expert in the medical
field, this, Yeah, I think

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that two things that just jump out
at you right from the top are that

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we knew that kids were at low
risk of having real severe disease from this,

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and now we're seeing the learning fallout
and the mental health fallout. Yes,

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and you are meant to be with
your friends and go to graduation and

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have your prom and you don't.
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we had to save lives over livelihood, and we had to save them.

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You know, learning wasn't that important. But now they're taking their own lives

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with suicide because they lost three years
of their lives. And we're seeing kids

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with learning disabilities who've never had them, with dyslexia and they can't make their

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grades. And you know, we
learned that that pause in schools was probably

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not the best thing emotionally, physically, or spiritually for kids. That's my

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outstanding one, the mental health thing. They'll carry over into all of us.

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Like you know, I've friends that
are like man, I started drinking

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more Sin's COVID and it's because I
didn't have anything to look forward to all

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day except you know, that glass
of wine at the end of the day.

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And now I'm still drinking more because
I started drinking more cod and you

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know, I think that we don't
recognize the importance that we are social being

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people the people, and man,
if you want to talk about the two

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mess ups, it was closing schools
and it was like that we didn't get

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let people do the social things that
we need to be mentally well and those

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Yeah, that's a great that's a
great point. We now know that this

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particular virus attacked the elderly and those
compromise systems, and largely kids were unaffected.

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In fact, I've seen questions ask
of doctor Fauci before he left on

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others how many children who were otherwise
healthy died or contracted the disease that went

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into intensive care with no underlying conditions, And the answers come out like under

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fifty I mean fifty thousand. That
a couple dozen out of seventy five million.

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It basically didn't happen. So there
was an overreaction. Secondly, about

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the wine. People self medicated,
That is, wine, beer, booze

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can become a medicine, and for
many adult Americans who were taken away from

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their routines, it became there's more
to it's going to take us a generation

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twenty years to come out of this
thing. And the testing is so bad

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in many schools they don't want to
test anymore because they know the results are

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going to be awful. So those
two things that we can't keep that in

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mind. Now. Thirdly, you
told me off the air that there's a

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new virus coming to town that's not
like RSV, which, by the way,

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I contracted during the middle of that
thing. I thought I had COVID.

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I got a hold of caryocus at
christ It got me in for testing.

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I had an RSV that kicked my
ass. I thought, my god,

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this is what it feels like to
die. Never smoked, never used

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drugs. I thought I was in
good shape. But I spent three or

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four days horizon, and there's a
new virus going around. Tell the American

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people about that. So how many
people have you heard it's in the last

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few weeks, Say, man,
some virus kick in my butt. I've

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such a negative for COVID twice,
but I have all the symptoms of COVID,

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the cost, the breathing trouble,
the fevers, whatever. And it's

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called the human metaneuma virus HMPV human
metaneuma virus and it does. It has

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all the same symptoms just about of
COVID nineteen. And we don't know why

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it's sort of circulating now, except
that we know for the last couple of

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years, these common viruses were not
going around because we weren't mixing and we

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were wearing masks and all the rest
of that. And usually is it impacts

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the very young and those that are
older, and everybody else just feels like

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they get a cold. But for
some reason, now the people in the

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middle are getting a cold time ten. So you survive it, but you

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just feel like, like I said
a friend who got back on vacation.

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He said, for eleven days,
I was knocked out and I was on

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vacation. How do I get sick
now? And I set up that you

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had human menimum of virus. It
gets the voice. That's usually where people

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start to notice it. They can't
speak, you know, it sounds like

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there their horse, and then it
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system. So if I were you, I'd be on the lookout for that.

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They don't test for it. I
talked to Steve Beagan's the Timilton County

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Public Health director about it. They
don't usually test for it until you're in

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the hospital, and that's how they
know that this virus is on the rise,

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because you don't usually, like COVID, have to go in the hospital

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unless you're immunocompromise or you're you know, an older adult with lung problems.

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So we know it's climbing. It's
up about you know what it was at

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this time last year, and we
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So again, it's like COVID nineteen, it's not over. It's out there.

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But if you've got like the lingering
aftermath of a cold, and it's

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like staying and you can't get rid
of it, and you know, your

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doctor tells you you don't have a
bacterial infection, so anibios are going to

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help it. You've got to ride
this storm, but you're gonna feel awful

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for as much as a couple of
weeks. I know. Lastly, way

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is a problem for almost all Americans. You're skinny, you could use a

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change burger here and there. But
nonetheless, I'm looking at these miracle drugs

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that are coming out, one involving
diabetes, and this is going to be

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if somehow some person could take a
pill, or take a drug or inhiler

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of one type and the pounds is
fall off. You describe what's happening at

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the cutting edge of medicine when it
comes to these new diet drugs. So

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this is very interesting. Ozempics,
it's known or there's a stemaglutide as the

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generic name, started as a diabetes
drug and people were able to control that

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average blood sugar humicle at a one
C. But then they noticed they were

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seriously losing weight. So the company
started testing it as a weight loss product

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and they said, hey, this
works. So the average person can go

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on it and lose if you're in
the BMI range of obesity, lose twenty

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thirty forty pounds. And what it
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in the got and that messes a
little bit with your hunger signals and your

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fullness signals, so you feel full
and so you stop eating. But keep

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in mind, you're still losing weight
because you're eating less. You know,

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like that's what you're doing. You're
eating less because you don't have the desire.

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But I will say the idea of
a daily obesity pill has been you

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know, in the obesity as a
disease field for a very long time.

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The problem is that there's this thing
called like ozempic rebound, and if you

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go off it lots of times you
gain the weight back. So what we

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don't know is we know that a
few years out these are safety take we

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don't know if five years out,
ten years out, you know what the

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other complications are yet. Remember,
you know, we had a horrible problem

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when everybody went on fen fen as
an off label use, and we didn't

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know it till later. So I
think they're being cautiously optimistic that we may

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be able to take this injectable and
put it in a pill and you would

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take a daily obesity pill, which
again if you are that's in your family,

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and even in especial if you have
diabetes, they can make a big

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difference overall. But we just don't
know yet if it's going to be the

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magic pill. Again, you're losing
weight because you're consuming less food. You

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have a desire to consume less and
you feel full and that's good, but

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keep in mind, you still got
to eat less. It's kind of hard.

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It's kind of hard to eat when
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hungry, I don't eat, so
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would be important. But all I
remember stan Chesley and fen Fen, and

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I'm thinking, before I take anything, I'm going to consult with the best

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doctors I can because I could stand
to lose five to ten pounds. You

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probably could stand. I could give
you five to ten pounds and you'd be

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better off. But in my case, I could I could to lose five

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or ten. I mean, ten
pounds would be great, and if it's

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easy to do, but I also
find out if I don't eat certain foods,

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I don't put weight on anyway.
Well, once again, Liz Bonus,

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thank you for coming on, but
the warden Burger is not going to

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be in your diet anytime soon.
You could have the warden Burger and takeo

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Zempek, in which case you would
never gain any weight. Infect you'd have

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to lose weight because nobody wants to
eat those things anyway. But that's a

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difference. So I'm just telling you
it's you think it's gonna be like the

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magic pill and all that, but
never we got a lot to find out

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before we just go and do that. And by the way, it's not

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for your five or ten pounds.
It's still you need to meet obesity criteria,

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which is a BMI above thirty five. You wouldn't qualify unless you were

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taking it like you know, on
the on the illegal market, which I

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want to do. And all I
think about this fenfin. All I think

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about is fen fan, which case
I'm not taking it. But nonetheless,

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let's bonus. Lastly, we have
twenty seconds. Are you as swift?

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E um? I love Taylor's music. I am not going to be anywhere

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near down no between between Taylor Swift, the Reds and FC. This is

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a tim nightmare this weekend. I'm
staying Ken would enjoy myself in Chase sing

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a little white Ball. That's what
I'll be doing. Oh good for you,

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That's what I'm doing. Liz bone
As, You're the best. And

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once again, thank you for coming
on the Bill Cunningham. Sure, thank

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you, Liz. All right,
thank you. Let's continue with more.

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All I can think about the diet
drugs is finfin and that's a bad imagery.

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Let's continue with more news coming up
in a little bit on news radio

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seven hundred WLW. Men, are
you suffering from a reptile dysfunctional,