If you want to find out how quickly the society can turn against one.
And I'm talking seriously here, stand up and tell the truth about just anything
that you want to stand up and tell the truth about. It scares the
living daylights out of everyone. And so the first thing that happens is you
find out who your friends are and who your friends are not, because there's
a great meeting out there, and it's not anything that you do on your
part of that I've been on my part. They just disappear, and you
find very quickly that people are afraid to be around you because that they can
see the government being upset about what you're talking about, and they can see
repercussions coming. And of course they have happened, and you will continue to
happen, and ultimately, I really believe that there will be some kind of
a terminal point where they decide that they're not just just not going to put
up with this pest anymore, and that's going to be the end of me.
We have been and literally financially in the ditch. We have found it
impossible to get any kind of a normal job with anyone who knows anything about
what I do. Uh, it's it's you can't go to church, you
can't go to cocktail parties because everybody else is sitting around talking about the whether
or oh, what school did you go to? And when you when you
have done the research and arrived at some of the answers that I know to
be true. Now those people become like kindergarten children. They're not in the
real world, and I can't engage in that kind of a conversation. So
you're really find yourself in another world that has nothing to do with all of
the rest of the people who are running around engaged in their activities that they
think are so important to them, and to them they really are. But
to me, they've lost the reality of what really is important, and they're
about to lose their freedom to even discover those things. At this point,
I ask you a last question, and that is, how would you like
to be seen or remembered in future years when people look back and you think
about the thrust of your work, What is it think you would to be
best remembered for. I think I would like to be remembered like Paul Revere
was remembered at a time when it was needed and nobody else would do it.
I got on my horse and rode through the night and said, the
British are coming. That's all you know. I'm not looking for any fame
or any fortune. You certainly don't get rich doing what I'm doing, And
infamous is probably the real word that describes what happens to you as far as
public recognition. In a world where political correctness is the theme of the day,
you just don't do what I'm doing. So if anybody wants to remember
me, I would certainly be pleased if they just remembered I did was what
was the responsible and the right thing to do at a time when nobody else
had the guts to do it. I have a great thirst, an unquichable
thirst for truth, for knowledge. I have an unquenchable desire to meet my
Lord and Savior face to face. I have a great need to help other
people and try try to wake them, to wake the people, to empower
the people, and save freedom for the entire world, not just for this
country, but for all people of all colors, of all religions, of
all nationalities. Beautiful or ugly or somewhere in between. I don't care.
I have this great feeling of compassion and understanding for those of you who are
asleep and who cannot wake up. And I realize and understand that some of
you never will, or it is not meant to be. But you cannot
you are afraid standing up alone without looking to someone for leadership, or someone
to tell you what to do or where if you go, or give you
your pittance so that you can live. Is a very scary composition for most
people. But at the same time it's the only means of salvation up on
this earth for the human race. But who God decides to unfold and bring
in the realization the rest of his plan. Man was put here to make
a choice, to make a decision. And those of you who say that
everything is faded and everything must be and there's nothing you can do to change
it. If that is true, why do you go on? Why do
you go to work in the morning? Why do you go to church on
Sunday? If you do? Why do you go to the mastery? Why
do you go to the synagogue? Why do you bother? If everything is
faded, it's going to come to pass no matter what you do. Why
do you try to convert someone from an evil life through a good life?
If everything is faded, that's their faith. Leave them alone. You see,
on the one hand, you say you believe this, and on the
other hand, you demonstrate to me that you don't believe it at all,
that it's an excuse why you don't have to be responsible. We're at the
fork in the road, just as all of you get mired down and little
bits of rumor and disinformation and lives that are passed throughout the so called patriot
community hand to hand, mouth to mouth. I take all of those things
and sift through them, find the lies and the deception, the disinformation,
and cast them out and put together of the pieces of the puzzle that give
me the whole picture. I am fighting for a higher cause. Can't happen
in America, you say, people here know who he is. I just
want to read a real quick little saying that member of the audience told me
about. This is from Sulzer Hitson, and this is one of the reasons
I think we're all here and we kind of have to remind ourselves why we're
doing this, he says, And how we burned in the cabins later,
thinking what would things have been like if every security operative When he went out
at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive
and had to say good by to his family or if During periods of mass
arrest, as for example in London Grad when they arrested a quarter of the
entire city, people had not simply sat there in their layers paling with terror.
Had every bang on the downstairs door and every step on the staircase.
But I had understood that they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set
up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes,
hammers, pokers, whatever else was on hand. After all, you knew
ahead of time that those blue caps were out at night for no good purpose.
If if, but we didn't love freedom enough. That's what makes this
country great. It's not diversity, it's freedom over. Thank you, Nnie,
Thank you well. You sure know how to make me feel very humble.
Thank you so much. I think one of the biggest misconceptions in this
country is what this country is all about, who founded it, for what
purpose, and most specifically, what it is that we're all looking for.
I'm going to try to clarify some of those and in doing it as always
happens, someone's going to be angry with my definition of some of these things.
I've traveled all over the country. I've talked to probably hundreds of thousands
of people individually over a lot of years. I've broadcast a radio show that
brings me thousands of letters every week. I administer the world's largest and most
successful civilian intelligence gathering operation in the world, which makes me privy to an
awful lot of information that none of you will ever see. And there's so
much of it, I can never present it in a form that you would
be able to look at it and digest it. So that puts a pretty
big burden on me in the people who work with me in the Intelligence Service
and in the Cadge News Service, in order to just this information, analyze
it, and be able to present to you what we believe, and this
is a subjective judgment what you can digest and what you need to know at
that particular time. And in doing this, bygesting all this information, reading
all of these letters from people of every kind of background that you can imagine,
every race, every religion, every kind of agenda. Believe me,
there's an awful lot of agenda's going on in this country that are dangerous to
Americans, being promoted by people who claim to be Americans, who claim to
be patriots, and who claim to be doing the best for this country,
including those who want to destroy it, bring about a one world the talitarian
socialist government. They sincerely believe in their heart they're doing the right thing for
human time. You see, nobody gets up in the morning and sets out
to do evil. Nobody consciously does that. I've never met any person in
my tall life who said I'm evil, I'm going to do evil things.
I like to do evil things, I want to do evil things. They
don't exist in my knowledge. It makesist somewhere people like Jeffrey Dahmer, And
I believe that even Jeffrey Dahmer probably rationalized what he was doing in his own
mind to make it right. Isn't that the way we all do things.
Even if we do something wrong and we know we're doing something wrong, don't
we attempt to rationalize it in our own mind and to our friends to justify
what we're doing. So I believe it's a great fallacy to set out to
brand those whom we disagree with as being evil people. The result of their
actions. We may perceive to be evil. We may perceive it to be
bad. They guarantee of those people don't see it that way, and we
present ourselves to them in that light. We're good and they're evil. Do
you think we have a chance of getting them to listen to us. I'm
not on your life. It's not going to happen. So I think we
have to change the way we talk. We have to talk to them in
a different manner. Now, don't take what I'm going to tell you standing
up here today and compare it to what I say on the radio and expect
the two to concur Because when I'm here, I'm just Bill Cooper. I'm
talking to you from my heart. When I'm on the radio, I am
on a mission, and that permission is to slap people upside the head and
wake them up and even make them hate me if that's what it takes to
get them to go examine what I'm telling them to find out that it's right.
You see, I don't care how it's done as long as they wake
up. If I have to be the bad guy that they're gonna hate for
the rest of their life, that's okay with me. If I wake him
up. But when I'm here talking like this, that's not my mission because
you're awake already, or you wouldn't be here. You see, there's a
difference between the people here and the people when I'm talking to over those airwaves,
A big difference. An awful lot of you or steady listeners of the
hour of the time, and have been probably for many years. And when
I'm talking on the radio, I know who you are, and I'm not
talking to you, and I know that when you're listening and I talk about
the sheeple, the stupid cheaple, it doesn't make you angry. You know
why, because you know you're not stupid cheaple, don't you. The person
that gets angry has verified that I was right, because he wouldn't get angry
if he didn't know in his heart that he's a stupid cheaple. You're been
walking down the street, somebody comes running out and says, bank robber,
bank robbers, stop that bank robber. Do you start running? Why don't
you start running? Because you're not the bank robber? Right? You get
angry? No? Do you pay attention? Most of the time. If
you're from a big city, chances are you don't even look around right after.
You're from a small town where I'm at. I mean, people will
come running out in the street to see the bank robber because a small town,
and not much excitement goes on there unless the irs comes to mess with
me. So what I'm going to talk to you about today comes from my
heart, from my experience in life, from playing this role as messenger,
which I take very seriously, from my efforts to wake up the American people
from my family, from all the letters that I get, people that I
talk to, just like I've talked to many of you here today. I've
learned some things and I think these things need to be passed on to you.
And I think you need to start examining yourself, your agenda, your
mission. Who are you, what are you about? What do you believe
about America? Is it true? Are you helping to divide us more?
Are you helping to bring us together? Do you really understand what this country
is all about? And I know it's going to make some of you angry,
that's okay. I know that it's going to open some doors for some
of you. I hope that it'll bring us all a little bit closer together.
And I hope that everybody wants you've examined your own particular agenda, will
try to make it fit better into what we should really be doing. And
I'm going to start off way back in history, folks, because that's really
where it began. The human race is young in the whole scope of the
life of the earth. Were just a young species. Really haven't been around
for a long time compared to everything else that's in this world. And I'm
not talking about biblical years, and I'm not talking about theory of evolution years.
I'm talking about for the time when you can see that man emerged from
the historical scale of this world and began to affect other species and the world
that we live in and himself by perfecting the ability to think first original thought.
See, there used to be a time in history when man was just
like all the other animals. He didn't think, he didn't know good from
evil. He existed and lived by instinct just like the other animals did.
If you want to believe the record that we can look back and see written
in stone, okay, if you want to believe that there were creatures that
ultimately became this thinking man that you see standing up here in front of you
and sitting out there amongst you didn't have this ability. Now have you doubt
that? Read Genesis in the Bible and you'll see that it's confirmed. There
wasn't there time and Adam and Eve lived in the garden of Eden. They
were not to think they didn't no good from evil. They were just there
to take care of the garden. Is that correct? So this concept and
the biblical concept agreed. Man just enjoyed what God had put there and sort
of took care of the garden. Any dentist will tell you that our mouth
was not made for eating meat, So ancient man most probably ate vegetables and
nuts and things like that. Roots doesn't mean that I'm telling you to become
a vegetarian, because I'm not. You See, I really believe in freedom,
believe you should eat whatever you feel like eating. That's your business.
But that's known to people who study these things as the age of innocence.
Something happened that brought man out of that state, and if you're talking from
a biblical reference, out of the garden of and into the world. He
wasn't innocent anymore. He understood that he was naked and that his partner was
naked. He could think, he could look around. He knew when something
was good and when it was bad, just as we all do here.
When somebody comes up to me and says, well, how do we know
which is the right way to go? I know that person is setting me
up to justify his bad deeds, and I won't do it. You always
know, We always know which is the right way and which is the bad
way. The bad way sometimes feels better, so we may choose that way
and justify it by rationalization in order to make ourselves feel better about the bad
that we did. In the mystery schools, they refer to this mystical time
of coming out of the age of innocence as the Luciferian philosophy. I've tried
to illuminate you with this for years on my radio broadcast. In the Bible
or in the Church, they talk about the fall of man the same thing.
There's only one difference between the Luciferian philosophy and the fall of man is
that those who talk about the fall of man believe in God. Whether or
not they believe in a savior, they believe in God. The ones who
believe in the Luciferian philosophy, do not now here's how that works. And
the Bible were told that Eve was tempted by Satan to eat of the fruit
of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God had commanded Adam and
Eve not to eat of the fruit of that tree. If you do,
ye will surely die. Isn't that the commandment? The Lucifer, through his
agent Satan, on the other hand, told Eve, God lied to you.
He's holding back the fact that you too can become God. But first
you have to eat of the fruit of this tree, and if you do,
you will surely not die, but shall become as God's not true.
So i'm the religious aspect, we see that as the fall of men because
men disobeyed God. We see that as the subjugation of the woman beneath men,
where she had originally been the partner. Now she is subjugated beneath men
because she was the agent of man's downfall. Is that correct? Now?
I'm not talking right or wrong. I'm not trying to insult anybody in here.
I'm just telling you what we're taught so that we all understand what we're
talking about, because that's most important. If you understand something differently than what
I'm trying to impart to you up here, and we don't have the same
definition. We're not going to understand each other away. The mysteries, on
the other hand, look at this in a different light. Here's their story.
It's a metaphor. They don't believe that there ever was a God,
or that there ever is a God aside from man himself, and man has
not reached that state yet, but can. This is what they teach in
the lodges, that if you perfect yourself as the temple of the God within
and become christed. We've all heard this in the New Age movement, you
two can become God. In her movie Running on the Beach Spinning Around,
I Am God to ask early in the morning when she just wakes up and
goes sits in front of the mirror and looks at her aging face and tries
to cover it up with makeup. If she's got she may tell you a
different story about that time. Around noon, she might be feeling better and
become God again. But this is the reality of the human condition. We'd
all love to be God's with me. My question to Shirley McLean at one
time was, please, Shirley, could you make me a universe? She
sort of looked at me with his hurt look on her face as she confronted
her mortality and realized that she was not God because she could not make me
a universe. She couldn't even make herself a universe. She can't even make
herself look young again. She's having a hard time paying some of her debts.
God doesn't have that problem, does he? And in her case she
Here's the way they look at it. Here's their metaphor for the end of
innocence. Adam and Eve were held prisoner in the Garden of Eden by an
unjust, cruel and vindicting God, until Lucifer, through his agent Satan,
set man free from this garden by giving him the gift of intellect. Through
the use of intact, man will conquer the earth, will conquer nature,
and will himself become God. It's taught in every Masonic temple in this land,
every secret brotherhood, every secret society, every mystical temple, every occult
organization teaches the Luciferian philosophy. They do not believe in Lucifer. They do
not believe in any entity called a devil, and they do not believe in
God. It is a mistake for you to assume that they do. Their
atheists in the strictest sense of the word. They are humanists. That's their
religion at the highest level. Their goal is to create a world in which
the Adepts, the thousand Points of Light, working behind the veil to create
the culmination of the Great Plan, can realize the ultimate happiness for mankind.
That's why they don't oppose pornography. That's why they don't oppose certain crimes.
That's why they say you should not be put in jail for the rest of
your life for murder or anything else. There should be no death penalty because
it was a learning experience, and having gone through that learning experience, you're
a better person now. This is what they teach. They believe punishment for
these crimes is nothing more than vengeful retribution, which is wrong in their eyes.
So these are really the two philosophies that we have competing with each other
in the world today. Who brought man the gift of fire? Prometheus?
Who was Prometheus Lucifer? What was the gift of fire? Knowledge? Intellect?
Has it? Man created? Industry, culture, society, science from
the use of one solitary thing, fire. Without fire, none of it
would occurred, none of it nothing. There would be no society without fire.
That's how it's represented in the ancient myths and in the mysteries. How
art thou fallen from heaven? Old Lucifer, Son of the Morning? What
is it represented as a bolt of lightning struck a tree? The tree burst
into flames. Ancient man, if you watched the movie Quest for Fire,
rushed up and grabbed one of the burning branches, and it burned his hand,
and he let it go. He probably didn't go any farther than that
the first time. Second time, he may have found a deer that had
been roasted by the heat of the fire in the forest, and being hungry,
maybe he partook of some of that meat and found it It tasted pretty
good. Also, the fire was warm and didn't get cold at night.
This is where the whole bottle between the forces of light and darkness comes from.
Man sat upon a rock one night watching the sunset and said, boy,
I'm in deep trouble now. I can't see in the dark. There's
wild beasts out there, there's taggers with teeth seven inches long that want me
for dinner? What am I going to do? He didn't know what to
do. Neither would many of us put in that situation. But we wouldn't
know one thing. We're in deep trouble. And so for a good part
of his history, man sat huddled in the darkness in some place that made
him feel secure, waiting to be saved. They remember, folks, I'm
not telling you what I believe. I'm telling you what is taught in the
mysteries. I'm telling you what our enemies believe. Make no mistake about it.
They are our mortal enemies. They want to see us wiped off the
face of the earth. A man huddled in this darkness, fearful, trembling,
cold, hungry, and a round about he could hear the beasts roaring,
and sometimes they were roaring because they were after him, and sometimes he
was eating. A man eventually saw another tree struck by lightning and grabbed that
branch with that flame on it, and buy a little experimentation, he learned
how to keep that fire going. And if he could keep the fire going,
he knew something nobody else knew. And he became the first king,
the first priest, the first scientist all rolled into one, and he would
burn this fire and keep it going. Another man, in the cold of
the night, wanting to escape from the terrors that were out there, would
gravitate towards this globe, and they would see this man sitting there, and
if he was kind, he would let them come to the fire, and
they would be warm, and they would be protected, because if the wild
beast came, he'd pick up a branch and shove it in its face,
and the beast would go away. And so the forces of light overcame the
forces of darkness, and in the sunshine of the morning, the newly risen
resurrected child that had died the night before. Their savior warmed them and saved
them from the terrors of the Prince of Darkness. You have to study these
things to understand your enemy. Any general who ventures upon a battlefield without understanding
the enemy is doomed to defeat. Just like a militia that forms itself upon
a peninsula has already created its own concentration camp, unless it has a navy
damn good militia, I might add, what is the upshot of this?
What am I getting at here? These people believe and they have conducted themselves
according to their belief in their philosophy since the very dawn of man. These
people learned how to control others through the use of a hidden knowledge. This
ability to keep that fire going was a technology that nobody else knew. By
observing the fire, by keeping it going, by creating ceremonies around this fire,
they became a mystery to the others. A mystery always holds sway over
those who don't understand it. And the priesthood was born. No king ever
existed without the permission of the priesthood. I don't care what religion you're talking
about or what period of history you're talking about. It is the truth.
The king's never had the power and don't to this day. Kings exist at
the whim of the real power, which is the priesthood standing behind the throne.
And when the king ceased to be of benefit to the priesthood, they
would simply poison him or get rid of him in some other way. The
king is dead. Long lived the king, and there would be another king
appointed. There was even a time in history when the king was a sacrificial
king, just like John F. Kennedy was in the temple of the Sun
known as daly Plaza. They would pick a young man at the height of
his virility appoint him king for one year. During that time he could do,
or say or command whatever he wanted. The priesthood was always there to
make sure he commanded the right things, have any woman that he wanted,
And at the end of the year, he was ceremoniously sacrificed upon a rock,
his heart ripped out, his body dismembered into fourteen pieces, and scattered
over the land. And this is where the legend of the Ossyrian cycle began.
It was to ensure the fertility of the crops of the next year,
and young men would volunteer for this in their patriotic duty to their kingdom,
to their family, so that there could have prosperous years, much as our
young men may volunteer to rush out over the water to a place called Kurit
or Iraq and die in the god forsaken sands of a place that nobody can
even find on a map. I've never heard of until it happened. Also,
that he can be called a patriot, someone whose family can be proud
of it escapes me. How they can ever arrive at these conclusions. But
they do, and the priesthood always takes the most advantage of this willingness to
sacrifice oneself upon the author of his country. The problem with it is is
very seldom really for the country. It's for the advancement of the agenda of
the priesthood. Whoever the priests happened to be at the time. Am I
attacking the church? You'd better believe it all churches, all organized religions that
have existed since the beginning of the time. Am I attacking the religion of
individuals? Never, not only your life. He wasn't trying to create he
ate a big church. He knew what happened to those things. And you're
all wrong about that man. Would you say he shouldn't get angry, You
shouldn't curse, You shouldn't do things that upset other people, because that's what
Jesus spent his whole life doing. He threw the money changers out of the
temple. Don't you think that makes some people angry? Don't you think it
was rude to walk up to somebody's place of business, smack them in the
mouth, wrapped their table, and throw it out the door. What about
the time he cursed the fig tree. I'm a pious Christians sometimes make me
very angry. They don't even know Christianity, they even know the man they're
following. He was a revolutionary, He was a dangerous man. By God,
so am I, and so should you be. This country was founded
by dangerous men, and the moment the people in this country cease to be
dangerous men's they're going to be the day we cease to have a country.
Their whole goal with this philosophy is to teach all men and women that the
only end of life is to seek the utmost pleasure and happiness that you can
get out of it, because when you die, there's nothing else. That's
what they teach. That's what they want you to be. They don't want
laws against sexual promiscuity. That's why they don't want families. That's why they
don't want marriage. That's why they encourage homosexuality. There's a method to their
madness. There's really not much method to yours, because you're operating from a
place of ignorance, and until you change that, you're gonna be bumbling around,
bumping into each other, saying and doing the wrong things. Not understanding
the nature of your enemy. And if you don't understand the nature of your
enemy and the weapons they use, you cannot fight that enemy. You can't
fight the battle. You shouldn't even be on the battlefield. That's why you're
losing the war. And don't tell me you're not, because I'm in a
place of great knowledge about who's winning and who's losing this war, and I
can assure you you're losing the war. Doesn't mean it can't be turned around,
but it'll never be turned around until you learn what you need to know.
You don't even recognize as half the weapons that they use against you,
and some of them seem so insignificant that you don't even try. They want
to create a world where everybody is happy all the time, doing all of
the things that if you're from a good religious upbringing, is wrong to do.
If you're not from a religious upbringing, but you have a good brain
and you understand the purpose of morals and ethics, it's still the wrong thing
to do if you're a thinking person. And then the priest had an army.
The oh boy, weren't they happy with that? Their whole purpose throughout
history has been to teach a small number of how to become a dept at
controlling everyone else and presenting their societies as desirable to the profane, so that
you're going to knock on the door and say, hey, can I be
a member and be initiated with the promise of learning some great secret. What
is that secret? The secret is what I have just told you this morning.
The secret is how to control everybody else. And you never understand how
to control everybody else until you get to the top of this pyramid of initiation.
Most people never make it past the third step. All above that are
carefully chosen and nurtured and talk and Americans so all these years have been looking
around for the enemy. They've never been able to find an enemy. So
those who control them were able to control them even better by giving them an
enemy. That's what Stalin and Churchill and Roosevelt determined at Yalta. Who is
going to be the enemy post war? Turned out to be Stalin, and
there was going to be this phony Cold war so that the population would never
discover the real enemy. And I'm talking about the population of the Soviet Union
as well as the rest of the world. You see, the enemy has
always been here. It's your uncle, your aunt, your father, your
mother, your brother, your sister, your nephew, your nieces, who
belong to the fraternal orders collectively known as the Mysteries, the very highest degrees
of which, combined together, make up a secret order known as the Illuminati.
Their goal is to destroy all existing religions, save theirs, all existing
governments, save theirs, and shackle the mob and he of eternal oppressive debt,
chained to a computer for the rest of their life, and a propagandized
world to make them believe that they are happy in this system. Now,
do you think they're succeeding? Haven't I described to you just now exactly what
is going on in the world today. Just they're succeeding. They're succeeding because
the American people don't understand their enemy. They don't even know what's happening.
People were extolling the virtues, the virtues of Pat Buchanan and actually considering voting
for that man for president. And he sent them all a postcard, and
on the front of that postcard he identified himself as a high priest of the
Mysteries, because on the front of his Christmas cards that he sent to all
of his followers was the penis of Osiris, the palus, the obelisk with
a nice red bow tied around the base, which represented the testes. You
know what he was saying to you? Are there any children in here?
He was saying, Yeah, he was laughing at you, So was every
other member of the Illuminati. Was a highly degreed member of the sovereign and
military Order of the Knights of Malta, which was taken over in the Peasants
Revolt in England by the Knights Templars, who had sworn revenge upon the old
Hospitallers of Saint John's, which later became the Knights of Malta because of their
role in the suppression of the Templars. How many of you watched Trinity Network?
How many of you watched Pat Robertson. You've ever seen the cross in
the crown? Do you know what that means? It's the symbol of the
Templars, the Knight's Templar. It is the symbol of the unification of the
church and the government over the people. Is that what you want? Every
time any church gets control of government, the people suffer. It has always
happened that's why our founding fathers established a country where that was not supposed to
happen, where everybody was free to worship at the altar of their choice.
That if you think they were all of one mind, you better think again.
How many religions of the Protestant group do you think existed in this country
when our founding fathers put together the constitution, over fifteen hundred different groups,
all claiming they were right, teaching a different dogma, quoting scripture to justify
what they said, and everybody else was going to hell. So don't give
you this Christian nation bullshit, because that's what it is. This nation reflected
Christian values because the people who made up the government in the early days were
Christian, but none of them agreed with each other, and they still don't
today. They very seldom ever had. What do you mean by Christian Seventh
Day Adventist branch, Davidian? You need to do some serious evaluating, some
serious checking out of agendas if you really want to take over the government and
make it a theocracy, because I'm going to tell you exactly what's going to
happen if you do that. You're going to burn people at the stake who
disagree with you, And if that happens, I'm gonna have to take up
arms all over again, and so will many of you, because you're going
to be persecuted, you see, because whichever one controls the government, you're
gonna have to conform to that teaching. And if you don't believe in it,
you're a heretic. Do you understand what I'm talking about? What is
our common bond? Truly freedom? Freedom? Without freedom, you can't be
a Christian, no matter what denomination you belong to. You can't be a
Buddhist, you can't own a donut shop, you can't drive from here to
Oregon, you can't be an American. Because that's what it's all about.
And that's the only thing that it's all about. Nothing else, nothing else.
It's about freedom, freedom, totally freedom. It means you have to
let other people be free, even if they disagree with you. I had
a tremendous admiration for the courage of those two communists who had the guts to
walk up with their little communist sign and their communist flag, two of them,
young people, all alone in that sea of America, militia uniformed patriots
then I saw people who wanted to kill them. You know, I don't
like their philosophy. They're miss lad misguided. Communism is a terrible thing.
That they had guts, and I had a great respect for them, and
I believe in freedom, which means there is no way in the world that
we could have had that meeting on your state House grounds this morning, unless
they had to write to do what they did. Then you had better understand
that, because if you stop them from having their freedom to make their political
statement, you have stopped yourself, you have stopped everyone, and that must
never happen in this country. It must never happen in this country because if
it does, there'll never be another congregation like this, and you'll never hear
me speak again, because I'll be dead, and so will most of you.
This country is about freedom, because only with freedom can you have all
the other things that everybody professes that they wants. Only where it can be
done. I hear all kinds of misconceptions and misstatements. I have the freedom
of the press. No you don't, No, you don't. The man
who owns the press has the freedom of the press, and he can say
in his press whatever he wants, but you can't. That's why I get
angry with Americans when they say the Jews control the press. Who sold it
to him? How they get it? You want the press, start a
press, you want to be on the radio, do it. But stop
whining, stop bitching, stop complaining. That guy that owns the press,
that's his press. He can do with it what he wants, just like
you do with your car what you want, because it's your property. He
doesn't owe you anything unless you've got a contract with his signature on it that
says he will print what you say. If you can't produce that, he
doesn't owe you anything. That's America. You know what's wonderful about America.
You can have a press. I have a press. How many of you
have seen my newspaper? That newspapers no joke. It makes congress Man cringe
when they see it. It scares the hell out of the enemy. You
two can have a radio show. I'm going to teach you how just here,
in just a couple of minutes. You two can publish books like this.
I did it. The harvest trust is the trust or my children.
I'm not rich. I don't have anything, nor I finance this book I
sold copies for it was printed to people who believed enough in me to buy
them. I don't have any money and my family and that's all the wealth
I ever need. I don't make any money from my radio show. Veritas
is operated in the red from the beginning. They probably always will. But
I got something that you don't have. I have a free press. It's
mine, and I get to say what I want, and I get to
publish what I want and print what I want because it's mine and I'm free,
and it's my free press. That's why I don't care if somebody calls
up my radio show and say I don't like what I say. Screw you,
get your own show. I don't care that they complain because I won't
let them talk on my radio show. Screw you, get your own radio
show. This is mine blogs to me. I don't have any contract with
you. I don't know you anything. I was speaking in California one time
a lady stood up in the middle of the crowd and said, don't make
me so angry. You're terrible man. Why didn't you tell me this years
ago? She was lucky I was telling her then. I didn't know her
anything, But she blamed me because she didn't have the information that I was
imparting to her on that day years ago, and I had it years before
that I didn't know how to do it. I would have, Oh God,
I would have. You know, really understand sometimes what a terrible burden
it is to know some of the things that I know and try to wake
people up and impart this knowledge to them and find out that they just have
walls built in front of them. They want to be slaves, but we're
making some chinks in those walls. You two can have a free press,
and that's what it's going to take to get this country back without bloodshed.
And I'm going to tell you right now. Unless we can be successful in
creating a real free press where the American people get different viewpoints other than those
expressed in the establishment controlled media, there's going to be a civil war in
this country, and it's going to come soon. The only thing that can
stop it is by waking up vast amounts of sleeping people. Sheeple is what
they are. They are following the Judas goat right into the sharing pins and
from there they will go to the slaughter and they will not know that anything
is wrong until they smell the blood of the sheeple in front of them.
Any Body can publish a newsletter or a newspaper, anybody. It is not
expensive, it is not difficult, and everyone in this room should be doing
it all across this country, and everybody that you come in contact with,
you should encourage them to do it, or we should flood this nation with
information, not rumor, not opinion, not bullshit, documented fact. Everything
you print must be documented. If it's not, eventually people will stop reading
your newsletter or your newspaper because all they have to do is check out a
few things and find out it's not true, and you're finished. You must
publish only documented fact, and you must stay away from printing articles from people
who will not document as fact what they put in their articles. That's why
my broadcast scares the hell out of socialists. That's why in a White House
memorandum, I was named as the most dangerous radio host in America. Not
because I'm going to go out and shoot somebody, but because I shoot documented
facts which cannot be refuted. That's why, that's what's dangerous. Seek ye
the truth, and the truth will make you free, and nothing else will
do it. Jesus Christ has never lied to anybody. Why won't you listen
to him? Don't spread a rumor, spread the truth, Document it,
prove it, make it irrefutable. On you two will become dangerous to those
who admire us in lies and enslave us in socialism. Any time any system
makes you dependent upon anybody or anything, or any system, you are enslaved.
Understand that doesn't have to be chains of iron. You don't have to
be hanging up on a wall. You just have to be obligated. That's
all it takes. You two can have your own radio station and broadcast anything
that you want. You can broadcast your own shows, you can be your
own host on that show. You can broadcast tapes of other shows. We
encourage people to buy satellite receiving stations across this country, purchase a very simple
FM low power transmitting kit and set up their own FM radio station in their
hometown. And we now have over six hundred and seventy people across the nation.
It's not expensive. If one person cannot afford the cost, what is
wrong with eight or ten, or fifteen or twenty of you getting together,
pulling your money buying one satellite receiving station, a small FM low power transmitter,
and setting up your own broadcasting station. I hope you will broadcast the
truth and not some agenda. You see what happens when you broadcast the truth
is you piss everybody off. If you don't have my address, I want
you to write it down. It's the Harvest Trust peel box nineteen seventy.
I'll repeat it a couple of times. Eager Arizona. Eager is spelled e
g A R Arizona eight five nine two five. That's the Harvest Trust peel
box, nineteen seventy. Eager Arizona eight five nine two five. If you
have I've purchased Oklhoma City Day one. It's on the back cover at the
bottom. If you don't have a pin and you would like to have the
address, you can go up to my wife's table upstairs in the second floor
and get one of our flyers. The address will be on the flyer and
all you have to do is purchase that equipment, set it up, hook
it into the satellite receiver, and you're on the air with your own radio
station within just a few weeks, broadcasting the worldwide Freedom Radio Network, are
your own shows? Are other networks that are up there that are patriot broadcasting,
such as a Marionette and others understand this too. We're not trying to
tell you what the truth is because sometimes the truth is extremely difficult to find,
and sometimes we believe we're broadcasting the truth and it turns out we really
aren't. But if we find out we aren't, we must be willing and
instantly able to go on the air and say we were wrong and correct it.
That's a responsibility that we all have to carry. It's embarrassing. I've
had to do it several times because I'm a human being. I make mistakes
too, the only difference being when I make a mistake, it's usually not
forgivable. That's what happens when you become a public figure. Your wife can
make a mistake, but Rush Limbao never right. I want you all to
get interested in this. All of you should be publishing a newsletter or a
newspaper. All of you should be documenting what you publish. All of you
should have a satellite receiving station and be rebroadcasting programming to your neighborhood. All
you got to do is make sure that you're broadcasting on a frequency that's not
interfering with any other broadcast, which means you don't just check it at your
house. You get in your car and you drive out twenty five miles and
all around, and you make sure that there's nobody else on that frequency before
you use it, so you know you're safe. In my little town of
Eager, which is a very small town. Between Springerville and Eager is two
miles. Another two miles either way, and You've covered everybody in the valley.
And I'm up on a big mountain in the middle of this valley where
the town surrounds the mountain, and I'm broadcasting six miles in every direction in
my town, and it's militia country. Arizona is dangerous for socialists when the
war starts. Heaven help whoever they send to fight in Arizona, because it
still really kind of like the old rest days. In a lot of play
says it's dangerous where I live. I Clinton made the sheriff angry. One
day. The sheriff rode twenty five miles, grabbed Ike Clinton, buy his
hair and drug him to jail by his hair, which brings me close to
the end of my I think it is how much time to have come here?
Yeah this, let me let me, let me, let me give
you a little parting, parting note here. I'll be back up as well
with as will the others, to answer questions later. Mister Collins has to
catch a plane, so I'm going to cut my talk short and please give
him your undivided attention. I'm going to tell you right now, because I
deal in reality, I'm going to vote for Charles Collins. But at the
same time, I'm a realist and by in this room should be voting for
Charles Collins. But at the same time, understanding he's not going to be
the president of the United States, okay, And I'm only telling you that
so that you're dealing in reality, okay, But he is the best man
on any ballot in this country. Thank you, Okay. God's good to
have you with us, and it should be a little a little different.
Then we'll talk to you for a while. Then you can talk to us.
And basically we've been looking at your book, Behold a Pale Horse.
You happen to write that? Well, it started many years ago when I
was in the Navy and I got a set of orders telling me to report
for training for the Office of Naval Intelligence, and I did that. I
was trained specifically in Pacific Area briefings, and then I was sent for training
for Naval Security and Intelligence. And then I was sent to Camp Carter in
Ikorps in Vietnam where they sent me down to Danang to become a patrol boat
captain in the harbor. And then later I was a riverboat patrol boat captain
on the Takan River near the dmz our base camp was Quaviette with the Dongha
River Security Group, which is a branch of Naval Security and Intelligence. When
I rotated back to the United States after my Vietnam tour, I was sent
for three months on a destroyer to do an investigation for the Naval Investigating Service
Naval Investigation Service, and then I was attached to the intelligence briefing team of
the Commander in Chief the United States Pacific Fleet. What I saw there was
shocking. I have no I was. I had not been prepared for this
at all. What I discovered was that what was really happening with the government
in the military was totally one hundred percent different than what the public was being
told And I remember one night standing watching the Command center as the petty officer
to watch and watching on television as we were launching bombing raids into North Vietnam,
watching the President tell the American people that we had stopped all bombing raids
in North Vietnam and that we weren't conducting any bombing raids in North Vietnam.
And I began to have access to top secret files and operations that had occurred
and were ongoing at that particular time, and operations that were planned for the
future. And I was so shocked and so amazed by what I discovered that
I left the Navy, actually five years before I could have retired very comfortably
on everyone's tax dollars, and began investigating all of this stuff that I had
seen. And that book is the result of that sixteen years of research,
based upon the documentary and the briefings that I've participated in while a member of
the Office of Naval Intelligence. Now being in Vietnam, do you think that
we already tried to win the war? We were just fighting a war too
perhaps distract American people from what was happening here at home. Certainly, the
war was not ever fought for the seat the vtames was it, No,
not at all. In fact, all war since World War Two, if
you'll notice, have never been with the so called enemy of the United States,
the Soviet Union and then later read China. They've always been with third
world countries as sort of a surrogate war. And the Soviet Union has never
fought with US, our communist China. They have fought small surrogate wars with
third world nations also, and it's accomplished several things. One of the war
in Vietnams and I'm talking specifically about this war and not others, was started
off to accomplish several things. Warn It was to buy a new methods of
fighting a war, and other was sending a young man over for one year,
in rotating them back to the United States and filling the war with minorities.
Was literally designed to destroy a generation of young men, some of the
finest young men in this country. It was. It was a terrible thing
to do to send someone off to fight a war. And most of the
people who fought in Vietnam, despite everything that you've ever heard, were volunteers.
Most of them, some of course, were drafted and sent against their
will, but most were volunteers. They volunteered because they were patriots. They
thought and were told by their government that they were fighting a war for our
country, and that it was in the best national interests of the United States
of America to fight this war, and that it was a war against communism.
In reality, it was a war to prepare officers through experimentation with new
technology for their role as senior officers, and these young officers who are getting
this train for as senior officers in the new World Police Force which is coming
and in fact is in our military now as functioning as the world Police Force
at this moment. It also was intended to destroy a generation of young men
who would then be disgusted with patriotism, who would be disgusted with warfare,
who would turn against the country and sort of drop out, so to speak,
and would not oppose what is coming. In other words, we have
a generation now of young men who fought in war who probably will not fight
in the next one, according to the estimates that the intelligencia have made.
Let's say, but I think they're wrong. I think that's not going to
be the case anyway. It also was meant to be a population control in
South Southeast Asia according to documents that I saw and was to protect the heroin
drug trade that was coming out of the Golden Triangle in Southeast Asia and that
had been traditionally the most of the world's source of heroin. Also, at
the same time, the United States Navy in the South China Sea in the
Gulf of Tonkin, instead of their primary mission being to support the troops on
the beach in South Vietnam fighting war, their primary number one mission was to
protect and support the oil exploration drilling ships in the Gulf of Tonkin, and
second was to support and protect the troops within South Vietnam. Never became a
problem because they had so many ships there and that the North Vietnam North Vietnamese
Navy was destroyed early in the war, so they never were a threat to
the oil exploration ships. Well, I hate to say it, but I
think that you're right. I think this war was fought against America. It
wasn't fought against the North VIETI absolutely. At the same time, I might
add, it was a war being caught in the United States. Project in
k Ultra was implemented. Doctor Timothy Leary was one of the principal agents of
the Civil Intelligence Agency in conducting this war to destroy the credibility and the effect
that the so called hippies of Flower Children were having upon the adult population and
upon the political process when they became addicted to drugs, and when doctor Timothy
Leary, with all his credentials and academic accomplishments, made it legitimate to drop
out and took up it destroyed the political process back home. It destroyed any
hopes of making a quick ending to the war, because that whole generation was
discredited. Everybody looks back at that as a real bad time in this country.
Well, of course, I don't think most people were able to take
it too very carefully. We would give it two choices. Need to give
back to the government and no win war, or be a traitor and pro
communists and try to get out. And they were for a good choices.
Nobody ever asked why a country the size the Invested States couldn't defeat the nation
the size of the state of Mississippi in ten years of war, And of
course the answer was, we never intended to. We didn't go there to
win, We didn't go there to defeat communism. The war was aimed at
the American public. Did you have anything to do with Operation Phoenix? Do
you know anything about that? I know about Operation Phoenix. I had absolutely
nothing to do with it. But it was in fact an operation that resulted
in the assassination, in fact, the cold blooded murder of The official estimates
are around twenty thousand, the real number is probably closer to thirty or thirty
five thousand of the infrastructure of the young Patriot leadership of South Vietnam. The
American people were told of that Phoenix was killing off the leaders of the Communist
cadres, but that's not true. They actually were killing off the leadership that
would have fought the Communist when they came into Vietnam, and they were preparing
the way for the takeover of South Vietnam by North Vietnam. But how can
a country, you know that supposedly, you know, so honorable, have
a planned program of assassination. I've heard figures going up to forty fifty thousand,
But it doesn't matter. Even if ten people were assassinated and paid by
the American government, how can you justify them and how have they been able
to keep that secret? I mean, that is one of the most carefully
concealed secret of the American public. Operation Phoenix, Well, they tried to
keep it secret, is not secret anymore. It's very well documented. It's
out in the open now. They tried to keep a secret because Americans are
supposed to be assassins. We're not supposed to be murders. We're supposed to
put form honorably upon the battlefield, and we're supposed to adhere to the rules
and treaties and things that we've made. But in reality, we don't really
do much to that. So there's a regular difference between, you know,
the appearance and reality. Basically. Of course, I'm speaking to my audience
here in Santa Cruz, apparently sheltered group of people who probably haven't done the
research and study. You know that many patriots like you have, and so
I just so Operation Phoenix out for those of you who are listening who have
never heard of it. Planned assassination, whether it was twenty or thirty or
forty thousand South Vietnamese who were systematically killed on orders of the American government,
And what was it We paid so much for each person who was killed?
How does that depends upon who was doing assassinating. If it was people like
Lieutenant Colonel James Bogbright, that was his job. He was he was a
part of that. If they were paid assassins or South Vietnamese that were hired
to do the job, then they were paid. Yes, okay, fine,
Well, you know this is a tragic part of our history. And
yet you know, I'm sure you share with me the concern that we are
moving towards a dictatorship here in America. And I know in your books The
Whole The Pale Horse, you talk about the federal executive orders, which I
doubt that many of our listeners have heard about. Hells, you know,
because our people and they shout inco it's a pretty liberal area. We call
it the People's Republic. We have people who are Frank Marxists on the city
Council and people who even prosit in the left some places on the on the
Border Supervisors. Although we did lose one of our local left wingers from the
Border Supervisors. And maybe things are beginning to turn around here. But can
you tell our listeners a little bit about the federal executive orders that today are
the law of the land in the United States. Well, let me start
a lot earlier than that, back in nineteen in mc crash at twenty nine,
there was a terrible economic disaster in this country. They call it the
Great Depression nineteen thirty three. In trying to deal with this, the United
States was actually on the verge of bankruptcy. There were a lot of unemployed
people. They were trying to implement a beginning of socialism in this country.
Implemented a law that was passed during World War One. It was called the
Trading with the Enemies Act. It was determined that they could use this to
fight the economic war, that it didn't have to be a shooting war to
be any kind of a war or any kind of a national emergency. So
they implemented by executive order the Trading with the Enemies Act in nineteen thirty three,
which literally put the United States and its citizens under emergency rule, which
means the Constitution Haiti's quote, things like that are suspended. Now. They
didn't tell the people that, and in the law it specifically exempted the American
people as being the enemy. In nineteen thirty seven, they reissued the executive
order again, only this time they left out that passage and the American people
became the enemy, and we've been living under that declaration of emergency ever since
then. So the concept that anyone in this country is protected by the Constitution
today or has been since nineteen thirty three is erroneous. It's false. And
that's why they've been able to do many of the things that we've questioned,
like, how can they do that that's against the constitution? Obviously, that's
against the constitution, that's illegal. But they're doing things all the time constantly
that tell us that the Constitution is no longer in force now. Later in
nineteen forty five, Harry Truman signed the United Nations Treaty, was ratified by
the Senate, and they pushed through Congress and Harry Truman signed the United Nations
Participation Act. They immediately pushed through and signed the National Security Act of nineteen
forty seven and created a veil of secrecy behind which they could operate to bring
power into the hands of the United Nations and destroyed the sovereignty of all the
nations of the world. The Cold War was actually a manipulation of the people
of the world to give them a fake enemy to pretend, so that the
government could pretend that the reason that they were doing all the things that they
were doing and building the military forces and developing the technology that they were developing,
was to fight this supposed enemy, this ideological enemy of the Soviet Union.
And they were doing the same thing in the Soviet Union, telling the
people there that we were their enemy. In reality, this had all been
increed on by the Big Three when they met several times during World War two.
And during these meetings, by the way, the reason why after World
War Two there was never another big war and all wars were surrogate wars fought
in third world nations. The agreement was, according to the documentation that I
saw when I was with the Office of Naval Intelligence, that for population control,
to keep the attention of the public away from what was really happen,
which was bringing about of one world government, a totalitarian socialist world government,
the destruction of sovereign nations, that they would fight these surrogate wars and there
would be no winner of any of these wars. And if you look since
that time, no one has won any wars, and no one has gained
any territory through fighting of these wars. Now, in when Kennedy became president,
he signed the first executive order creating what's called FEMA, the Federal Emergency
Management Agency. It was put into place to take over local, state,
and federal government in case and this is the way it was worded, in
case of invasion by a foreign power. Our nuclear attack upon the United States
got my daughter and her dog in the studio play in here. So anyway,
he signed this executive order. This created the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
They also began back in the fifties creating underground literally cities all across the country.
There are these underground cities. They have own water supply and everything under
a mountain in Virginia, there's a place called Mount Weather where they even have
a government in waiting. They have a president there which has not been elected.
They have a full cabinet there. They have departments of all of the
government agencies in the United States and down there waiting in this place called Mount
Weather. And they also have a computer data bank with a master warrant list
where they're collecting the names and addresses of known patriots and patriot leaders who will
fight the overthrow of the Constitution overtly and the absorption of the United States overtly
into the United Nations, and the transfer of power of our armed forces to
the United Nations, making them, in effect and a world police force along
with the military forces of what used to be called the Soviet Union. Later
on Nixon elaborated on these executive orders. He changed them around, took out
invasion by a foreign country, our attacked by our nuclear weapon, and it's
worded very curiously now and then Regan changed it. But now the wording says,
in case of internal unrest, are economic instability because they can generate that
at any time they want to. That's right, by imaginations of the Federateserve
Board. That's correct, financial crisis or in fact, I have really seriously
wondered if some of the patriotic leaders that are going around now may very well
be creating fear and getting people to organize just to create the stuff for crisis
that could justify the implement data dictatorship. Do you sense that, well,
I don't think that. So. I think that there are some patriot leaders
who are not patriot leaders, who are trying to identify those patriots who will
resist the destruction of the sovereignty of the United States by force of arms if
necessary, to restore the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to their legal and
lawful place as the supreme law of the land. I know that there's going
to be in this country if they don't back away from this encroaching socialism,
if they don't return the Constitution the build rights to their lawful and legal place
as the supreme law of the land, there will be civil war in this
country. To do it. There are men who will not go in to
give up what so many people have lived and died for to put together the
United States of America. Most Americans don't even understand that until the Constitution the
Bill of Rights were a penned by our four fathers, that no people on
this earth had ever been truely free until that time, and even since that
time, we are the only people in the face of this earth who have
true really been kings and queens in our own right and have had the rights
and the protections of those rights in the history of the world. And right
now today all of the protection of the rights guaranteed us under the Bill of
Rights. So the first ten amendments have been striped away. Some of the
rights in the seven articles of the Constitution we have lost. Now most Americans
don't understand this and don't know it because most Americans, unfortunately aren't really Americans
have never read the Constitution, don't know what it says. And if they
did read it in their life, it usually was in a high school class
when they had little Susi or Little Johnny on their mind and they really didn't
care much about what they were reading. The teacher would interpret it for them
and tell them the First Amendments. But as the wall of separation between church
and states, well, the truth is there is no separation between church and
state. Our forefathers put an article in the Constitution which forbade the government from
respecting any institution of religion, of course. But the funniest thing is you
asked the average person where the wall of separation occurred, and they will invariably
tell you it's in the First Amendment. That's because they never read the Furgi
amend Yeah, the First Amendment says that the government has to keep their hands
off religion. They cannot pass any legislation laws respecting any institution of religion.
Period. That's all it says. It doesn't say that you can't be religious.
It doesn't say you can't say prayers in school. It does. In
fact, it was never meant for our schools to be run by the government.
Then that's the truth on that matter. Sure. In fact, at
the time of the First Amendment was passed, all of I think all but
one of the thirteen colonies had the state religion. Religion was a matter to
be less of the states and to the people, not to the federal government.
And there was never any intention of preventing me the Bible or Christianity from
being espoused in schools. Everybody knew this was a Christian country for many years
until all right until recently when the nineteen sixty two the Supreme Court, which
obviously had a certain prejudice, simply without any legal president, without any justifications
other than the testimony of a psychologist, said well, you know there is
a wall of separation. Do you mind taking a call here? We have
somebody on the line of us to talk to you about Iron mountin No,
go ahead, Okay, Hi, Ben, are you there? He had
a run to the far Yeah, Bill, what happened? I met you
at the h the Preparedness Ternes meeting. But I've been keeping track a lot
of your information and it's pretty much right on the body. And there's something
else without here to make you have a coun and that's the the either phony
or a real aliens threat. Certain talking to jalbanize the two world order?
All right, you want to cover that as all on Bill Moony are real
seats that they're concocting to galvanize the new world order. Well, it's not
just as a lot of things. They have a lot of concurrent plans operating
on us all the time. For instance, this global warming thing is not
real. The ozone holes are not real. The UFOs could be an operation
to create an artificial enemy from space in order to justify asking all the people's
of the world to drop their national sovereigny and come together in a one world
government so that we could face this threat together. All these things were outlined
in a plan called the Report from Iron Mountain, which surfaced about nineteen sixty
six. Supposedly, Kennedy had ordered this study done, and it took several
years to do it. It was done in secret. The first meeting was
held in a repository of corporate records called Iron Mountain, and then they had
meetings all over the place for the next several years they put together a report.
The purpose of the meetings and the study was to study the possibility and
probability of permanent peace and what would be the necessary ingredients to make it happen
and what would have to occur to make it last. So one of the
first things that they arrived at, the first conclusion they arrived at, that
all economies in the world were based upon a war economy. In other words,
nations and governments existed and they were held together and their economy worked because
they had a common enemy somewhere and throughout history if you look, it's basically
been true. I don't think it's necessarily true today, but nevertheless, that
was the conclusion of the report from Iron Mountain, that there had to be
an enemy. Now. The only way you could do away with war is
if you had an enemy that could replace war but did not require the killing
of people. For instance, an environmental war intentionally and purposely polluting the environment
to create a state of tension and worry and foreseeable a disaster in the future,
for which you could mobilize all people to pull together and see the common
enemy and want to work to address that environmental hazard and for many years.
The large corporations who belong to these organizations who make these plans and bring them
about. We're dumping large amounts of pollution and hazardous chemicals and waste material into
lakes and rivers and streams and into the atmosphere. It was done intentionally.
It wasn't an accident, and it brought about the desired result. It did
mobilize people, and a lot of those environmental concerns are real. But the
point I want to make is that some of them were done by greedy people
who wanted to make a quick buck, but a lot of it was done
by major corporations who are part of this plan trying to bring about a one
world government, and it was done intentionally. Things were created that are fiction,
imaginary things. For instance, the ozone hopes, as I like to
call it. There is no layer of ozone around the earth. Ozone occurs
throughout the atmosphere. Ozone is created and destroyed every single second, simply because
ozone is a radical molecule. It's made from two atoms or two molecules of
oxygen splitting, making four ions of oxygen are four ion atoms that are independently
floating around looking for something to attach to. One of them will attach to
an oxygen molecule, which is O two already has two atoms of oxygen,
making it O three, which is a a radical molecule. In other words,
it's looking for something to oxidize. Instantly, in the minute that it
finds something that will oxidize, this third atom of oxygen breaks loose from the
O two and it does exactly that. Now they say that that ozone is
protecting us from the ultraviolet rays of the sunlight, and that's the biggest fantasy
in fiction that's ever been created. The truth is that ozone is created by
ultraviolet light coming from the sun. It comes into the atmosphere until it reaches
a zone or an area in the upper atmosphere where the concentration of oxygen molecules
are such that it begins to strike oxygen molecules at a rapid rate. This
causes a chemical reaction which depletes the energy in the ultraviolet light rays and it
splits the oxygen molecules, causing these two atoms, now free from each other,
to seek out something to attach to. When attached, when they bump
into another molecule of oxygen, they attach and that creates ozone. So ozone
doesn't protect us from ultraviolet light. Ozone is created by ultra violet light coming
into the atmosphere. And if it were not for this happening, if ozone
were not created by ultraviolet light, then we would be in danger of being
burnt to a crisp by ozone. The truth is, as long as there's
oxygen in the atmosphere, and as long as there's ultra violet light coming from
the Sun, there will be plenty of ozone in our atmosphere and we don't
have to worry about it. We don't produce enough CFCs to even make a
dint in the ozone in any portion of the atmosphere. One volcanic eruption in
one day will deplete more ozone in the atmosphere than the entire history of the
human race has ever done so well. The other thing the information is the
coral flora carbon are actually heavier than air, so they don't go up in
the asom. That's right, They never get up that high. They just
never bring this out. Yeah. Also, you might want to ask people
when they talk about this ozone hole bologny, I'd say something else, but
I don't want to shock anybody out here when they talk about this ozone bologny
that if their their assertions were true, if their allegations were true, the
ozone hole would be over New York City, would be over Los Angeles,
would be over Tokyo, would be over London. It wouldn't be over the
South Pole when there's winter at the South Pole, the South Pole, that's
right. The truth is the ozone holes occur over the poles only when that
pole is experiencing winter at the pole. Because the Earth is tilted on its
axis, no sunlight is striking that portion of the atmosphere over that pole.
In the winter, they have six months of darkness. Therefore, the chemical
reaction does not take place, Ozone is not created, and you get these
photographs of supposed holes. Okay, then the other. But yet there's something
I wanted to point out that a lot of people didn't really take notice.
You know. I find it was funny. One friend, one friend of
mine attack second portans Uh. He was a test of the community. Army
noticed that on the news. It was when they released that suceerial rapist of
an organ the camp that they showed that he would stay and concentrated him on
the outside and it was a you know, the sprawling behavioral martication facility that
he was aware of this. They have all of the United Cave. And
he noticed that they showed it on TV. It was like a tank.
They were supposed to show the sign or something, and they noticed this.
I noticed, well I didn't see it till yeah, that was on the
news when they when they showed the camp and suceial rapists. Sure, okay,
fine, well thanks thanks so much. That the bed okay five,
But just for the listener, here this book, the Reports from Iron Enough.
I can remember in nineteen sixty six or sixty seven when it came out
and it has been reprinted. And one of the things it said, you
know, others over above what Bill Cooper's already told you was well, look,
if if we have to, will contaminate the entire planet. But we
need to have this enemy, the the environmental threat. That's how we're going
to control the people. And he has seen this thing unfolding U regularly,
whether it's a real or where it is, and all sorts of science is
for instance, the Heidelberg Memorandum signed by you know a hundred or so Doorbell
Laurie said, this whole environmental movement is a scam, but you never saw
that on controlled CBS, ABC or NBC. That's correct. Let's go ahead
and talk to Tony here. Hi, Tony. Yeah, And I had
a wonder update on that John at the main power we had anything new on
him, and I thought it was a very interesting story and I was kind
of wondering what happened in the property had I have no idea. He was
released from prison about a year ago, and from what I've understand, he's
not the same person. I don't know what they did to him, but
he's just not the same person. Why didnt you tell us a little bit
about it? Because I don't know the story? Well, he was he
understood that what was happening to our economy and our money system. He was
from England. He had developed a method of using his own personal wealth to
purchase large amounts of undeveloped land that contained by proof by exploration x amount of
tons of natural resources of gold, silver thank and stood backed by silver gold
a bank backed by the natural resources that the bank would then have backing its
currency. It would then issue a different kind of money. They would be
credit vouchers in effect, that would be backed by real wealth. These natural
resources that had not been reclaimed are taken out of the ground, are cut
down and made in a paper or whatever, and that way they could get
out from under the depth system that everyone is being subjected to now. For
instance, our money used to be backed by gold and silver coin. In
fact, our money, by law is called a dollar. A dollar is
defined by laws a specific weight of measurement specific specific measurement of weight of gold
or silver coin. A dollar is really currency only as long as it can
be exchanged for gold or silver coin, which is the real money of the
United States of America. The debatement of our coinage, by the way,
the penalty of which is death if you're convicted of debasement of our money.
And the money defined by law by the Constitution is gold and silver coin,
nothing else. And if you have gold and silver coin, you can issue
silver certificates and gold certificates as long as whoever holds them can turn them into
any bank arts of the government and receive that much of weight of gold or
silver in coin of the realm at any time they so desire. But gold
ownership of gold was made illegal back in the thirties. It was taken away
from the American people when they implemented the Trading with the Enemies Act. Later,
gold certificates disappeared. Then they withdrew silver coins and began minting what we
call copper clad and they put a little layer of silver alloy on the outside
of these copper coins so that the sheeple, the stupid people would think that
they still have the same value in their hand when they had these coins.
The fact is they were debased and they were worth no more than the copper
content in the coins. And then they took away the silver certificates and began
issuing Federal Reserve notes. Federal Reserve notes will be the death of this nation
economically, simply because it is a method of constant and consistent inflation through borrowing
non existent money, which is created by bookkeeping entry. When that happens,
the Federal Reserve asked the Treasury to print up the bills they've just created by
a bookkeeping entry. Bear in mind, now, the Federal Reserve is a
private corporation, not an actual agency of the United States government. So when
they did that and created this phony money and had the Treasury Department print this
money. They paid exactly what it costs to print the money. The Treasure
Department did not make a penny. They then take this money and buy a
United States Treasury bond with this money that's interest bearing. So our government now
has this money they created out of thin air. Our government gives them a
Treasury bond which is interest bearing. This money then goes out into circulation into
the country through the government, paying its bills and paying the salaries of the
people work for the government. And then we the American people, have to
pay this money back that never existed through real wealth, the creation of substance,
through our work, the sweat of our brow. And then not only
that, but we have to pay back the interest which was never created in
the first place, guaranteeing that we get poorer and poorer every year, and
that the value of the dollar shrinks every year. For the last forty years,
we've gone from a dollar value of one hundred cents down to approximately ten
cents. Today's probably closer to eight cents. But I won't quibble over a
couple o pennies, because it's the stupidity of allowing this to happen is that
is the real thing we need to understand about ourselves. And so every dollar
that is actually out in circulation, we have to pay interest, and we
pay it to the bankers to own the Federal Reserve, because the Federal Reserve
is a private central bank, that's right. And the Internal Revenue Service is
the collection agency for the Federal Reserve. When you when you write a check
to pay your taxes, your income tax if you're a taxpayer, and when
that check comes back to you, when it's gone through and you pay your
taxes and it comes back and you get it from your bank, if you'll
turn it over and look on the back of the check, you'll see that
it was not deposited to the account of the Treasury of the United States of
America. Instead it says pay to the order of any Federal Reserve bank in
payment of United States obligations. So the money that you pay an income taxes
doesn't even go into the United States Treasure. The Treasury gets its money from
other things, from excise taxes, gasoline taxes, import export taxes, things
of that nature, which by the way, are legal taxes. Income taxes.
Not right, And you know I heard about the sell that he'd go
into a restaurant and when the bill would come in, he'd say to the
waitress, can I pay this there with Federal Reserve notes? And the was
the waitress and look a little surprised, and get you over and get the
manager, and the managers say, you want to pay this with federve reserve
notes? What are they? And I think every person should do this,
because what we need to do is let the American people come to realize that
somebody has stolen our monetary system. They have done it by a very careful
and deceitful manner. The Federal Reserve is no more an agency of the federal
government than the Federal expresses. And we are enflamed by an organized effort to
control the banking and ultimately the currency of this nation. We've been told,
and they create wars for their purposes, for their profit, and the gold
is to do one world order. Well, let's correct, and I'll go
you one better than thatts Ever since so we've been using Federal Reserve notes,
they have literally taken over the nation and we have become indentured servants. You
see, when you operate on a debt system like that, you are not
paying your debts. If you go down and buy a car with Federal Reserve
notes, you've committed to illegal act. If you actually think that you own
that car, and if you try to own it, it's it's illegal.
The truth is is you cannot purchase something or pay a debt with an instrument
of debt. A Federal Reserve note is nothing more than a note. A
note is an instrument of debt. It says somebody owes somebody some money and
it hasn't been paid yet. So you're taking that instrument of debt down and
you're using it to purchase something or buy something or pay a debt. You
cannot pay a debt with another debt, cannot purchase something with a debt that
hasn't been paid. And that's when Americans began receiving warrant deeds to their homes
and to their land instead of allodial patent titles, which really means that you
own it. If you receive a warrant deed, it warrants that a deed
exists, but you don't have it. The true owner has it, and
you have to pay a property tax, which is a wrinkle on that property
that the true owner actually owns. Also, it applies to other things too.
For instance, you no longer get a title to your automobile or to
anything else that you purchase with Federal Reserve notes. You receive a certificate of
title, which certifies that a title exists. But again, you don't have
it. The state has it, because the state owns that property until the
debt is paid. In other words, we have now become indentured servants for
the debt of the United States of America because this money has been created out
of thin air and the interest is never created, thus making it impossible to
ever pay the debt. People are talking about balancing the budget paying the debt.
Uh, it's it cannot be done. The currency does not exist.
It is possible if you pay off your land or your property in gold or
silver coin and then pursue a process through the courts, you can do it.
Yes, yeah, sharaff and Arizona is not going to enforce the Brady
Bills. Unconstitutional. It's unconstitutional according to the constitution of the State of Arizona.
It's unconstitutional according to the Constitution of the United States. The second article
in Amendment says that a militia being necessary to a free state, the rights
of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The law
also specifically states that the militia is not the National Guard and it is not
the military. The militia, the unorganized militia, consists of the whole people,
and specifically in the law it specifically states all all male citizens between the
age of seventeen and forty five. Therefore, it is against the law,
against the constitution of both the federal and the state government to take weapons away
from anyone who constitutes the militia. But you know, it's so interesting because
there is a massive program, as you well know, to take the guns
away from the public. He last weekend was at the meeting of the California
Medical Association, and those of you who are out there will be happy to
know that the California Medical Association, how the delicates, voted that everybody who
has a gun or ammunition or uses a gun has to have a license,
and the doctors representatives voted for that this is the path to dictatorship. And
what I shut up and made a statement to that effect. You know,
there were so many in the audience is sort of scoffed, but they're you
know, they're doctors there who are thirty or forty years old who have gotten
into the House of Delegates of the CMA so they can use the policy and
the political power of the mobbing efforts which are generated by doctors paying dudes to
the CMA to bring about the dictatorship in America. And the average person in
America has no idea that new crime bill is named to take to socially the
Second Amendment and take away the guns from the people as a prelude to the
establishment of the dictatorship in the new World orders. Would you agree absolutely?
And these people, these PhDs, these doctors, these university professors, these
so called intellectuals who are promoting Marxism and socialism aren't as intelligent or smart as
they think they are. If they were, they would go back and study
history. And if they studied history, they would find that whenever socialism comes
to power, the first people that socialism destroys and places in labor camps or
outright executes are the intelligencia. The university professors, the lawyers, the PhDs,
all of the people who promoted Marxism and socialism and brought them in the
power are the first people that they throw into the labor camps are are completely
exterminate, simply because they're the people who, once they see socialism actually at
work on them, will be the first people to turn against it. I
agree, but I think that the American people must understand that what is happening
is the carefully planned program. In fact, I was watching television this evening
and they had this black and white sequence of these children with a sad faces.
They were making remarks and sort of a hopeless feeling, and that if
the captain of the end was we must stop the violence. Well, the
basic theme is we're going to take the way away from their law abiding said.
This isn't to stop their violence, no way. I mean, those
are the places where they've taken the guns away from the people. In New
York and Washington, DC. They've got prime raise three or four times out
of the surrounding areas. Every place that has laws saying that the populace cannot
own weapons has the highest murder rate in the in the country. They have
the highest crime rate in the country. Like I told you, these so
called intellectuals aren't smart. You can be intellectual and not be smart. My
grandmother used to tell me that you can have all the degrees in the world,
but if you don't have one ounce of common sense, what good does
it do it? Well, I think that these people having a jedde and
you know absolutely they're Marxists. They really believe that they're going to make the
world better by taking freedom and rights away from people and putting them in shackles
so that they can control them every second of their life. They don't understand
that they're also going to be in those shackles. They think they're going to
be their leaders exactly. Well, the stroke Nuts started out as a socialist,
a hardline socialist, and it wasn't until he got to the Gulag,
but he suddenly didn't about face and became, you know, a return to
God. And Sandy Villiz the horror that he is Key and the other idealist
had created, believing this man to be able to create a better society.
Sure, Leila is Stalin, and Stalin is the greatest murderer in the history
of the world. Conservatively he killed forty million people, and that's conservative figures.
He probably killed many, many more million than this, Plus some of
the people here in Santa Cruz. I want you to know I got an
imitation this last week to a meeting of the Communist Party. Mister bill Wood
invited me to a meeting over on the West Side consist off of Mission Avenue
on Saturday afternoon and told they did of course they did this because I think
that the people who Daily World are people's weekly World agains. It is now,
and they had my name on the mailing list. So I got this
night personalized invitation. The head of the Northern California chapter of the Communist Party
was going to be there, and you know, all the local communist we're
going to be. People think we don't have communists. Of course, we
have communists and we have socialists, and we have markets that we probably have
more Marshers here, you know, at the University of California here in Senecas
than they have in Moscow, and the people in Moscow dover and he believe
in this people up here, you see too. That's the tragedy there and
in Washington, DC. Well, sometimes you get to experience it to understand
what it is. Ie, all I gotta do is read about history and
what they've done in history, and I don't have to experience one bit of
it, and I'm not going to as long as I'm able to fight up
men and many many other people in this country will fight to our death before
we will allow it. Why think, one of the hardest things for the
average citizens to understand is that many of the people who are pushing Marshers and
the hardest are the people of great wealth and great influence and the great foundations
of America Rockefeller, foun, Carnegie for funder Republic. And it is these
foundations, these people of great wealth who believe, you know, as the
concentration of power is going to be in their hands. You know, that's
what they believe that, you know. Stalin would teach them different, Milestone
would teach them different, Fidel Castro would teach them different. Hitler would teach
them different. By the way, Hitler was a socialist. And we might
as well swear that up right away. Everybody out there talks about the left
and the right and the extreme left and extreme right, and they always put
Nazis on the right. And that is an illusion, a delusion, it's
a fantasy. It's not true. Nazis are on the left. Nazis were
socialists, national socialism, is just a little bit above communism. They're both
on the left. Communism is extreme left Nazis. National socialism is just a
little above communism. A republic is somewhere toward the middle. Extreme right wings
total anarchy, it's no control over anyone, and they're they're putting out these
deceptions so people will think that there's something wrong with the right wing. The
right wing. People actually want more freedom for everyone. Extreme right wing or
anarchy is just as bad as extreme left wing our communism, but there are
no Nazis in the right wing. I guarantee you it's a deception, because
the new world order will be something along the lines of what Hitler planned.
I sure you're right. Well, we've only got about a minute here before
we have to break for the news. What are we going to do the
next hour? Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna while you're breaking for the news,
I'm going to link up on the satellite and get ready for our broadcast.
Right, and I'll have my daughter here. Now. I won't be
able to take calls during my broadcast, but we'll be able to take calls
from your listeners. My three and a half year old daughter is going to
be helping me with this broadcast tonight and we'll be going worldwide by satellite and
short wave. All right, very good. So we have a break off
here and I'll just put you on hold and we'll be back right at the
right on the hour. Okay, okay, thanks so much. You're welcome.
And this is doctor Stan here. You're listening to the hour of the
time. I'm William Cooper. Oh boy, we had your pot way up
there, didn't we too? Who else is here with it? All right?
Well thought, we're going to be coming to you, uh with in
conjunction with another broadcast in uh near Santa Cruz, California. I believe the
Santa Cruz Santa Cruz to day moutains over looking beautiful and picturesque in Moty Bay.
And we have doctor Stan with us, and uh we've already done one
hour on his program. And we may be the first people who've ever done
this. I don't know has anybody else ever done this before? We do,
I think once or twice before our fellow name of Stoesbruner somewhere in the
east. But this is a you know, an amazing opportunity to talk to
people all over the world. That's true. Now are you on AM R
FM, So we're an FM station. This Actually we do an AM broadcast
in the afternoon and then we do an FM broadcast in the evening. So
we're right now, we're on FM. We're all of Monterey Bay areas well.
Great, Well, I think I recognized a lot of the names there,
you know, the Lucier's Trust, Albert Pike's U, Lord Mitria,
the New World Order. But for the people who reb are very well educated,
they wouldn't understand if I understood it, because, of course the common
denominators is Luciferianism, which is what energized Hubert Pike and the Masons, Lord
my Tria, which is the new Age Messiah who the New Ages think is
coming. Of course, the Lucier's Trust was now toss theosopice. Well,
well, you must have a much better educated audience and den ours. Although
I hope our audience is becoming better educated all the time and is coming to
understand how all of these poltic or secret organizations getterlass give is to drive towards
the establishment of a one world dictatorship. Well, I hope. So I've
been broadcasting for two years now doctor Stan and I've devoted this hour to educating
the sheeple, hoping that they'll become real people and screw their head back on
straight so that we can get back on track. It would be terrible if,
throughout the history of the human race, man had struggled to finally become
free and stand of the king in his own right, if we marched backward
once again into slavery under socialism. Well, what is it courage to me
is that you know you are doing what you're doing. And there are people
all across this country. I was on a network out of which countin this
morning put on by Jacollison, I think of Milwaukee, and he is broadcasting
just trying to get the truths out accrostination. And there's a John Leffler in
Colorado, And there are jusis people around the country that I've run into.
Who are you making the sacrifice to get onto radio and putting into time it
ever and certainly the financial investment to try to get the truth to the people
and help them to understand how it all works together. But it's really a
spiritual battle being played out on the political battlefield. That's correct, And unless
your audience think we're some kind of religious koops out here. These people don't
really believe in Lucifer as Christians look at Lucifer. They don't believe that there's
a devil. They don't believe that there's a Satan. They don't believe that
there's a Jehovah or a Yahwa or any of those things. They believe in
a pantheistic God. They are deists. They believe in the Luciferian philosophy,
which is a metaphor when they talk about it, and that is that man
was held prisoner in the garden of Eden, in the chains of ignorance,
by an unjust, vindictive God, and he was set free by Lucifer through
his agents Satan, with the gift of intellect or primordial knowing, the use
of which man is in the state of becoming becoming what, becoming God himself.
They believe that ultimately man is God. I agree with you totally.
Louis have a caller on the line here. She called her this before the
hour, so let's see what China has to say. I do that does
mean that the fan mister Cooper, Bill Cooper Cooper, we think she's very
much full broadcast see the news behind the news as practically very few of you
who well doing such a job. And it's not a movie jock because the
opposite peoper who not wrong coups who have these kind of use broadcasts. Boksoever
that you are with the truth and just throw the truth, willmaker free.
I have a question for your guest and preadful you understand not to learn a
pole on the rigio, I guess Linda Thompson And for the people who doesn't
do don't know it. She was the one who brought the tragedy of vehicle
to the to the focus so that people would know exactly what has happened there.
But Linda Thompson on that Hetty heard it. She said that OI said
that the federal changes now uptake directly by the executive branch into the USA.
She that was really mand boggling to me. And then I heard that who
is taking care of who is at the top of that you ranch? I
was flatagat. So let's let's find out what it still knows anything about that?
Okayye bye bye? Got the question, Yes I did. Then She's
absolutely right, it's done because we are living under emergency rule, which means
that the rule of the Constitution is really not. In effect, they give
us the illusion that it is, and they are in the process of taking
away the guarantee of the rights of the American people, what we and our
forefather is called Creator endowed rights. You see, there are no constitutional rights.
There are Creator endowed rights. The Constitution is to protect those rights and
limit the powers of the government. Well, the protections are being stripped away.
As I said before, we have no more rights under the Bill of
Rights. Some of the rights that we used to have protected by the body
of the Constitution are gone. Under the Treaty of Breton Woods. The Secretary
of the Treasury, who is mister Lloyd Benson at the present time, cannot
accept a salary from the United States government. Instead, he is paid by
the International Monetary Fund, which is an arm of the United Nation. The
ATF or the Bureau of Alcohol to backlud Firearms actually works for the United Nations
under the Department of the Treasury created artificially by the Treaty of Breton Woods.
Under the International Monetary Fund, the United States Treasury is in limbo and in
effect does nothing, supervises nothing, Prince, no money, Mint no coins,
nothing whatsoever. The IRS Internal Revenue Service is also under the Department of
Treasury, working to collect the national depth of the United States and transfer the
wealth of this counttry into the hands of the Federal Reserve and the International Monetary
Fund, where it can be redistributed to third world nations. You know,
I've heard this before. How over the world would we ever document with nois
editinate that who pays the sali. I've documented every single bit of it.
We have six hundred and twenty eight pages of documentation of official United States government
documents, the United States Code Statutes at large, State Department documents, documents
signed by the President executive orders over the last fifty years. It proves without
a doubt that there is a conspiracy, that it was being worked from the
beginning, but none of it has been hidden. That at the present time,
the Constitution is not in force, that we are in fact under the
United Nations Charter, and the resolutions passed by the United Nations were in the
process of eliminating arms in all nations, eliminating the concepts in international law of
sovereign nation states, stripping the arms from the American people, and eventually the
military forces of what used to be the Soviet Union in the United States will
be united into a one World Police force, and no other peoples or nations
will be allowed to be armed, except for a small internal force which will
be armed lightly to subdue internal unrest. And this is sort of goes along
with the fact that we're stepting Soviet astronauts up with our astronauts, and we're
bringing Soviet sciences here, and then with our educator researchers are working with Soviet
education researchers. You sort of merge the two countries into US. Yes,
it goes much farther than that. We have Russian military officers in our military
academies, We have our officers in their military academies. They have people here
attending our law enforcement academies. In the Open Skies Treaty. They overfly the
United States daily with bombers and military aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft. The reconnaissance aircraft
are specifically equipped to monitor the disarmament of the United States. They have Soviet
polit borough members and members of the military in the United States at specific stations
in the United States to monitor the disarmament of the American people and of our
military forces. The next thing you're going to tell me Gorbachev is going to
be in the presidio. Gorbachof is in the presidio illegally. In might add
it has been for over a year illegally. He has set up the Gorbchalk
Foundation there. The Gorbachalk Foundation is a foundation set up to promote the idea
of one world socialism government. Chris, you know, I think every Republican
would be happy to know that the Republican National Central, the Senatory or Congregial
Committee just gave him seventy thousand dollars to give a talk. DEBI should have
been an amazing talk. He must be a very very powerful speaker to get
saved seventy thousand dollars. Or is it that the Republican Party is subsidizing Gorbachev?
And maybe at the top there is not a great deal of difference between
the pro communists Democrats and the pro communist Republican Well, there isn't at all.
And that's why it doesn't matter who you elect to the president. See,
nothing changes. Everything keeps getting worse, You keep getting poor, The
dollar keeps being devaluated, Inflation continues to occur, Unemployment continues to rise,
and they've been manipulating the unemployment figures so that Americans don't understand the true tragedy
of unemployment in this country today. As we move towards more towards socialism,
and as American corporations move out of the country into foreign countries where they can
get cheaper labor, and all of course is in the process of lowering the
standard of living of the average American. The intent is to eliminate the middle
class, which marks called the bourgeois ee, and bring about two classes of
people, the rulers and of course the rule. This is all in the
process of coming about. Unemployment figures are skewed and that they don't count the
unemployed period They count only those people who are receiving an unemployment check, and
only for the period of time that they receive that check. If someone runs
out of unemployment benefits, they are not counted anymore as being unemployed. If
someone is not entitled to unemployment benefits but they're unemployed, they are not counted
as being unemployed. People who are homeless are not counted among the unemployed.
People in the welfare are not counted among the unemployed. People on general relief
are not counted among the unemployed. The truth is, doctor stand, the
unemployment rate in the United States today, if you count for true figures,
is higher, much higher than it was in the Great Depression. I'm not
surprised to tell you know. One of the high things I think for most
people who listening is to believe that there could be a conscious program to merge
American the Solby Junior years ago, I had heard about a man named Norman
Dodd and the chief investigator for the Reach Committee, which is a congressive committee.
I'm sure you know about it that investigators great foundations. So I attract
Norman Dodd down and I actually did a tape interview with him where he told
me about going to the head of the Ford Foundation, Rowan Gaither. And
Rowan Gaither said to him, mister Dodd, why are you investigating the Ford
Foundation? Why is Congress investigative? And before mister Dodd could answer, Rowan
Gaither said, perhaps you'd like to know the true purpose of our investigation.
We get finding you'd like to know what the Ford Foundation is really doing.
But we here are operating under a presidential directive. We've been with the OSS
for years. Most of US, and that directive is to so change America
that one day this country can be peacefully merged with the Civic Union. If
I have to search him, say that myself. And actually I'm sorry,
I don't have the tape of that interview, but I have an upstairs and
maybe we can play it together. Sometimes it's difficult to know that this is
a planned program of You know, this is forty years ago when Dogg was
told that Geoman dodge lawns instead. But this is a long term program urge
America and the Soviet Union into a one world system. You're absolutely right,
But you see, nothing's hidden. We've documented that anyone can duplicate our research.
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I have three presage of a book called Foundations to Power and the Influence,
which was written by the Council for the Reef commit that investigated the Great Foundation
for which Dorman Dodd, who I talked about a little earlier work and the
correct It was an amazing investigation. Every everge was made to stop the investigation,
and even said a Congressman named Dwayne Hayes to the committee meetings to disrupt
them under the Presidential Order of Dwight David Eisenhower. But eventually they did have
at least a year to investigate, and all the companies of the investigations,
the congederal investigations disappeared, but the Council wrote a book and it was never
distributed. It was published by Devin Adair. They just couldn't get us out.
And a few years ago I was given the place to this and I've
republished the book Foundations that Power their Influence, showing how the great Foundations were
pushing Marxism in America and try to destroy the patriotism which every Americans would feel
for this country. In fact, that's what Congressman Rees says in the preface
to the book. And if you want to get the book, it's available
by calling her eight hundred number, which is five war Ware because America is
under siege today, were at war and most people don't even know the war
is going on. But if you read that book, one of the most
important books ever published, which is why I republished it and tried to get
the circulated, you will understand that powerful and wealthy people are working to destroy
the nation and emerges into this one world system. Exactly as Bill Cooper said,
that's a fact, doctor Stan And like I said, anybody that wants
to look wants to get their nose dirty and get in some books. And
I know that's not popular to get in books today. You got to see
it on videotape from television, but you can find it and it's not difficult.
What sort of the truth is is that Senator McCarthy was right in the
fifties. He was absolutely right on target. He was vilified and destroyed by
the left wing Marxist press in this country, and the plan to the subvert
this nation, destroy the sovereignty, and create a one world to palitarian socialist
government has been marching right along on schedule. Don't you think that baby McCarthy
was getting too close to the Council on Foreign Relations and he didn't even realize
that. I mean, because there's always been forced behind communism in this country.
I mean, the Commage didn't have enough money to maintain the Communist Party.
It was always subsidized by people of great wealth and great power. In
fact, Carol Quickly Joe Christmas mentor George Town University, talked about that in
his plastic book Tragedy and Hope Hows Us? The contadist movement in Balchulish finance
by the great bankers. They wanted to keep it under control. No,
that's correct. With the bankers aren't the ones in charge. It's really very
very powerful people who's controlled the secret societies that are running the show. That's
why Americans look around and they can't see an enemy. They know that this
country is being destroyed. I can't go anywhere in this country without being approached
by people saying, Bill, something's terribly wrong. I can see it in
my gut. I see our freedom's disappearing. I see things happening like Wake,
Texas and the Weaver incident up in Idaho that don't make sense. This
is not America, this is the Soviet Union. And they're absolutely correct.
They look around and they try to identify how this is occurring, and they
can't see it because it's their mother, it's their father, it's their uncle,
it's their grandfather, it's their brother, it's their sister. It's all
of these people who belong these interlocking secret societies and organizations, both public and
in secret, behind the scenes, that have one goal together at the highest
levels, and a lot of time, the people at the bottom and these
these organizations don't even realize that they're a part of it. I'm sure that
they tell it. I'm sure there are lots of idealists who think would to
the wonderfloped man could create a setter society, And of course they don't realize
they're not going to create a better society. They're going to destroy the greatest
society that has ever been known in all the court of history. Let's go
talk to Day here right incident they Bill this is a local talk show host.
He is on another station in the area because a great job of doing
interviews with people of a conservative bed and is actually he is his station is
much more powerful than mine. Actually, I was going to ask Bill,
a people who has been varying work? Now Stan left us? Uh,
got's been over a year now, was right around that time until where I
trying to contact you. But the best us a pop. I can't hear
You've lost you. I can't hear you at all. And you hear him
now now I can hear you. I can't hear him now I can hear
you. Yeah, I was saying it was about a little year ago that
I had talked to you, was seeing it about trying to have you on
the program, and we talked to you kid, he thinking some information and
then he ever called back again and I just say, well, be one
of those things that I haven't pursued or put you. Now I've lost you
again. Yeah, now you're back. You know why I could have asked,
while why are other folks that I talked to little the comps And she
mentioned that she basically had fakers of faith on this scandal that was growing on
where he had been fed some false information and you were the only person to
come forward and warn her about it. And consequently, you know, kind
of say a little bit of her reputation and uh that she said that she
had talked a little great about the same thing that needs made it sound like
everything was going on. I was just for three to Eddy, Eddy,
Uh if you talked to you know, botle Grace at all, because I've
gotten different information, you know, like I guess condecending why tracking me I
get supports you or about you. I mean, I'm not trying to hear
any Moundrey books. You know, I'm even a lot of lesson that all
about let's let's not creative. Go ahead, Well, uh, I used
to be one of Gryce's greatest supporters until I found out who he really was.
And when I found out who he really was and what he was really
up to and what Delta Force really stands for, and we found a briefing
given by a Lieutenant colonel on an army concept to help bring about one world
government called the First Earth Battalion training film for young officers that was made back
in the early eighties. Then I began to investigate to Grits and found out
that he changes his religion with his audience. He never says anything of substance.
He was in fact in charge of Operation Watchtower and Central America, which
was the umbrella security for the drug planes coming in from Central America to the
United States via Homestead Air Force Base. And we've been exposing him. But
I got a break right now because we have to take a short break and
do a commercial, So I'll be right back with you in just a minute
or two. You're listening to the Hour of the Time worldwide by a shortwave
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we have Pooh in here in studio. Also, did you have something to
say poo to the radio audience? God, you just want to smile at
the microphone? Okay, you can say good night later. Okay, Well,
doctor Stan are you there? Lets something else? David? Yeah,
on your books of the old appeal of horse, I can't hear you now.
I tasted rampathy friends and people got about ers. Now it's kind of
one of those you know, I'd be kind of freak. Guys, don't
go why why would you? Good nisman? You can read about the guy's
background everything else. So I wonder if you could maybe to fill some of
those uh I have the world bankers or the Jotan conspiracy and anti Zionism and
all this kind of stuff that people readily accuse anybody that tries to well,
sure, absolutely, Zionism in the first place has nothing to do with Judaism,
or with Jews, or with the State of Israel. The State of
Israel has been established, and that was the Jewish goal of Zionism. International
Zionism is actually a part of British Israelism. It's worked through the secret societies
and its main protagonist, of course, is the Freemasonic lodges which are controlled
from England. Also the ancient ordered, the Rose and Cross, the Knights
of Malta. It is a racist group. They use the Jews to promote
their agenda. And I could go on and on and on, but no,
it has nothing to do with anti Semitism, which, by the way,
is one of the tools that they use when somebody gets too close to
the truth. They labeled them as an anti Semite, and then all the
fools and the sheeple out there here anti Semite and they turn off their ears.
Intelligent people listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing, but they
pursue a program of real research, looking for the truth, not agendastlie.
Thank you much, thank you. Right, let's go to Bill here,
high Bill kind actually see, I was sure we're gonna hear a Bill the
Bill is uh, is he ever heard of the bastions writing on the cotails?
Just hearing about people being called type of many? Okay, go ahead,
Well, you know Bill is obviously aware of the Masonic curris on America
and the world. And I think about how many people not only are related
to other sisters, ceterasts, but also ten daughters are And you know you
read in the Bible there are cruises not of the families for things. And
when people still lose soul for the GiB, they're in the family curse.
And I see that the whole country pretty much in brought is curs. And
it's basically um generations of people who at least our hood wings good wind is
an excellent term. And so you know, people ask, well, why
aren't you people waking up? Well get what um to curse? And uh,
well, well, Bill, do you have a question? Uh?
Well, yeah, I wonder well a lot of things. But for instance,
why do we allow our politicians, Uh why don't we allow anybody to
be a politician in our country who has already taken a bath to the leader
of an organization that goes back to the point of England they as a basic
lead person who's they've taken this both too. Okay, find that. Let's
let's let Bill answer that. Did you get the question? Well you have
to you have to ask the people about that. I I don't vote for
those politicians. So you see, we don't pick who we vote for,
and it doesn't matter who we vote for on a higher level, it's always
someone who is furthering the agenda of international socialism, of international Zionism, of
the promotion of the one world government. If you will, I wish that
you know, someone asks the last car I think asked about the Jewish thing
an anti semi. I wish Jews would wake up and understand that what's happening
here is the same thing that happened in Germany as Hitler began his rise to
power. The same things are going on, the same new age, the
same occultism, the same rumors, the same proliferation of prophecies and nostradamus and
all this thing. Everyone then was looking for a messiah. Everyone now is
looking for a messiah. And I'm telling you right now, if you're not
careful, you're going to get one. And the same thing is going to
happen when that shy imanus his throne. You know, these similarities are so
striking, the way the homosexuals are being manipulated in this whole thing, and
then the fears of the people. Every everybody's looking for that strong man who's
going to get us back to, you know, to a prosperous, stable
society. There was a tremendous crime. There was a tremendous invest in Germany
in the twenties, and it was this that encouraged people to look for the
new leader. Of course, they got one, and he was an occultist,
but he was also backed by powerful people, both in the United States
in England. Yes, and I might add that he was also extensively financed
by some very wealthy Jews. So you have to understand that they're all different
religions and all different kinds of people involved in this. They're devoted to Marxism,
to socialism, they're devoted to one world fatalitarian government. You can't blame
this on one race. You can't blame it on one religion. It is
an organization of secret societies that at the very highest is ruled by a racious
point of view that the Anglo Aryan race is superior to all others, and
it manifests itself as British Israelism in this country at manifests as uh the White
Aryan supremast uh uh and uh what they call Christian identity. Okay, Five
let's let's go here and uh, they'll have anything out I was wanting up
within the presidio. Yeah, you can drive down Shakey's hand if you want.
I wonder if he's our local. Uh uh Michael, Colonel Molester.
I don't think he's. I don't think he's still up there at the prestidio.
I would advise all your listeners to get gorber CHOP's book. The name
of it is Paris Droika by Michael Gorbert. You haven't read it, read
it, and you will learn the true meaning of democracy, and you will
all of a sudden understand that this is not a democracy, was never intended
to be a democracy. This is a republic. And all you screaming liberals
out there that don't know what a republic is, you'd better learn because we're
going to bring it back, I hope. So I had a United States
Senators, I guess this afternoon, and he kept talking about how we had
to make the American democracy work, how we were informed as a democracy.
And I don't like to attack my guests, so I did my lip.
And he was a very nice man and very dedicated to what he believed in.
But what he believed is wrong. America is never a democracy. And
that was the one thing that our leaders always said, is that we don't
want a democracy. For democracies, our air expect because of turmoil and contention,
our air incompatible with private commedy and personal liberty, had our usually as
short of their lives as they are pilate in their debts. And that comes
from the tenth of the federal papers. To get it and read it and
ask yourself, why was I ever told that to school? Why did the
man Davis Madison who wrote the constitution say that if this is a democracy,
and of course we were never meant to be a democracy, that's correct.
Well, thanks you very much, thank you, Bye bye. We've got
Tony. I think Tony's got one more question here, Tony, Yeah,
Hi, I want to ask us still about the vote bright As he said
rodern Ups, he was making a lot of um news about showing the Baltea
Dada and identifying um rug against Cambodians, Highland and slingers to Richard Armatage and
learning because any opinion on that, and also about involvement at Ruby Ruby Range
up in Idaho. I heard a lot about how he played these troops on.
No, he didn't place anybody under citizens arrest period. It was all
a scam. He was actually working for the FBI. He was wearing an
FBI wire. He was called by the FBI and brought there by the FBI,
and the whole thing was a scam. Mix Gris looked real good.
Patriots flocked to him. He gets more names and addresses of people who would
fight for the constitution. He was talking about Randy Weaver back in the early
part of nineteen ninety two or three years before the thing ever even happened.
Yet he claims he never knew anything about it until the FBI called him.
Okay, well, I could go on and on and on and on and
on if you wanted me too. The guy's he's a trouping horses what he
is? All right? Fine, Well, anyway, my producers tell HI,
which we've only got eight minutes more before we have to go up.
Well, anyway, it's been a fascinating, fascinating time, and I appreciate
your being on with us this evening. I have the opportunity to share ideas
and maybe we can do it again sometimes. Well, thank you for sharing
the broadcast, and I'm really sorry that gright scared you all away. We
call us state to stay on this, Jeff, I want to get all
sides because I'm not taken any side of this. Oh, nobody asked you
to find it. You may be entirely right. We've we've proven it in
his own words. We've aired many hours on this broadcast of his own words
which convict him. Well, if you have those tapes available, can we
I'll purchase those tapes absolutely all right, Hush. We get them by writing
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going to send and get some of that information. I hope some of our
listeners will want to as well. And I just didn't want to get into
a long dissertation of you know, on the subject, and you may be
entirely right. I don't know. I am very concerned because Billbright is organizing
a paramilitary organizations, and I am very fearful that these can be misused in
this country. The last thing I want to see is people beginning to violate
the law that will be used by the other side to justify the implementation.
That's right, but people should be looking at the history. He was David
Duke's running mate as the vice presidential candidate in the election before last. He
is now in the state of Idaho setting up a center for white separatists,
and he and Jack McLam have purchased a large section of land for white separatists
to go up there and live, so they'll all be together to try to
form a an Aryan nation of the Upper for Northwest states of the United States
according to the Airyan Plan. Uh, and I could go on in.
He gave a Nazi salute up at up put the thing in Idaho to the
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Good evening, you're on the air. Yeah, Bill, I just sent
you this information I got out of the Financial Times Friday, Morns twenty five.
It's about the Larelle Corporation and it's about the defense electronics EARO Space Group
said yesterday assembled a group of strategic partners secondary investors who would provide initial financing
the eight one point eight billion satellite communication systems done as Global store. Um,
this is the I believe Wait wait, wait stop, they'll go any
farther because that's tomorrow night's subject. Oh it is, yeah, Oh okay,
then and I sent you a little scoop on it. This is what
they're gonna watch everybody on. Yeah, well, we've got it all here.
We've had it for several days now. I've just been waiting for a
good time to do it. Tomorrow Night's at that time. Okay, then,
super, I'll be listening too too. You got the information on George
green George Greene was instrumental in the collapse of the savings and loans institutions in
the state of Texas. He has been filling the world with lies and disinformation.
Is published. I don't know how many books, maybe about sixty or
seventy books, all purportedly h channeled or written by some space cadet named Hafan.
Most of it plagiarized by from the writings of me and Eustace Mullins and
many other people. Some of it just outright garbage made up out of the
clear blue skuy. I don't know who he works for or what he is,
but he is bad news wherever he is and whatever he's doing. Okayden,
thank You're welcome by six or two three three, three, two one
seven four. Good evening. You're on the air. You're to turn off
your radio fascination in Mexico, and I'll hang up and listen. I haven't
devoted any time to that whatsoever. Tell you the truth. I'm concerned about
saving this country, and I think the Mexicans should care about Mexico and we
should care about the United States of America. I have no idea. Okay,
thank you, but I'll tell you what. The name of George Bush's
petroleum company was a Pata Oil. The name of one of the ships that
was taking supplies and people for the invasion of Cuba was a Papa. The
other one was Barbara, which is his wife's name. The Indians in southern
Mexico who have formed the revolution are called Azapapatistas. Yes, it means the
shoe. The shoe has always been a euphemism for the Master Great. Thank
you very much. You're welcome. Think go too, free, free,
free, two one seven four. I think the people who've always been control
or in control and are controlling there get evening in here. Yes, I'm
calling from New York. My name is Danovan. I'm head of the Catholic
Defensefully out here I get a lot of media attention. I want to get
Stu Shopton and destroy them. My question is this, and it might be
twofold, maybe maybe I'm a dream of but I'd like to know, why
do you or why do people seem not to pay attention to the issue of
jewelry in this country. They're in firm control of America. And it's amazing
that you know that as as Americans, that we tolerate what they do.
I mean, I can't believe that these people have not been interacted against yet
to their Freemason circles, all the other things that have gone on it,
they're finding in charge of America. There's there's no way that we could brother
that or water that down to three makes read. And we're staring control up
by the way, And I just don't understand why everybody tries to avoid the
issue. The wealthy bankers of the Jews, the control of the military called
the Jews. It always has been, always will be in this country.
And there's nothing that anybody can say on these talk shows of stations or anywhere
else that can get true to the people in this country. It's amazing.
They destroyed Russia, they destroyed anything they've gotten their hands on, from Christianity
on down, they destroyed it. It's terrible with disgusting and for what they've
done. I mean, I hear a lot about Christian identity out here,
and I tell you the truth as a Catholic, I really I say they
have a lot of truth to what they think. I mean, religiously speaking.
I think people should look at the Christian identity. I think it's if
they have a message and I happen to get along with them, I'd like
to meet the more because here in the Northeast we don't have many Christian identity
people that I know of, all right, But the main point of the
main thrust from trying to make is that the people that go against me all
the time in my Christianity, and against Radio Free America, and against the
boys in South Africa, and against other forces in South in Russia on the
right have always been it will always be the Jews because we're stupid. We
are voice. That's the hul Well, my comment is, if three point
eight percent of the population control all the rest of the population, and if
that three percent of the population, three point eight percent of the population are
Jews, then that makes the rest of us pretty stupid, doesn't it.
Well, yeah, but they have defrontment. Well, now wait a minute.
If we're that stupid, maybe they deserve to control us. My message
is, my message is get smart. No matter who's controlling us, are
you're going to be a slave. And if you're not smart, you deserve
to be a slave. And I think you've got to wake up to people
in this country. And I just don't see it happening. Well, I've
been trying for a long time. We're out of time, Thank you very
much. Hate to cut you off, and I'm not cutting you off because
of your subject. I'm cutting off because we're out of time. And I
told the people I played this last cut, and there's not going to be
time to play the whole thing. And I get to give you this address
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Sweetwater Productions post office box eight two two two Van Eys, California, nine
one four zero nine. Well, it's this whole argument that we're being picked
on and somebody's controlling us and all this stuff is a bunch of bullshit.
If we're that stupid, we deserve it. If we don't like it,
We've got to stop being stupid and we can control our own destiny. So
to me, placing to blame on other people and other things, just don't
cut the mustard. It's our fault and until we change it, it's always
going to exist. I don't like to hear anybody cry about the Jews,
are the Blacks, are the Arians, or anywhere else. We put out
truth on this program to wake people up to take their power back. We
are against socialism. We are for freedom for all people's, all races,
all religions, all colors, all creeds. And until that happens, in
this world, there will always be wars. There will always be dangerous there
will always be muggers, there will always be thefts, there will always be
sheepul and there will always be slaves. Good night, and God bless you
all. You see, the government is not Washington, DC, Ladies and
gentlemen, never once, it's not the Congress. The government is the Constitution
of the United States of America and the first ten amendments Thereof folks, we
are nearing the end of the road of civilization as we know it. Unless
we wake up, unless we take control and make sure the future is what
we want it to be. And one of the things that we must do
now immediately is stop fighting amongst each other. Stop fighting the man who doesn't
look like you are, the woman who doesn't look like you, the people
who have a different skin color than you do. We must learn to live
together. And it's nobody else's business what somebody else's religion is. It doesn't
hurt us if they want to practice their religion as long as they are not
hurting us in the protests, So why go to war with them. We
are all brothers and sisters in this world, no matter who we are.
Let's learn to live together and love each other. Good night, and God
bless each and every one of you.