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glass, as they say, is Victor

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Nuno from Daver Prospects. Victor,
how you doing today? I'm doing awesome.

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Jesse. It's gonna be it's gonna
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hear how you're doing. How are
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I'm doing great. The summer is
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with these team previews. Victor,
it's been a busy fantasy week. I

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feel like I am definitely living that
life this week with all the drafts,

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slow draft going on everywhere, starting
up, tidy drafts, all that type

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of thing. But people might not
know what that means. Victor. Do

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you think people know what tidy means? Maybe you should explain it to them.

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Yeah, we've been all up in
the tidy the tiered dynasty league that

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we set up last year. People
said it couldn't be done, Jesse.

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In fact, you're pre skeptical yourself. I'm one of them. I'm one

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of them. Yeah, but it
was a last year. It didn't really

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look like a tier. It was
flat, it was four divisions. We

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got our winners, we were able
to move people around. And now and

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thanks to our good friend Brandon who
makes some really nice images, we have

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a website also thanks to him,
and you can visualize the division that was

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in my head from the beginning,
and I think it's starting to make a

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little bit more sense to people.
You can see the top division, the

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middle divisions, the bottom division,
and this really is going to be like

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a tier dynasty where you have to
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You can get relegated to the bottom. And so we've been moving people around,

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filling people in to their spots,
getting new managers. We're gonna at

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the end of this. We're at
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actually just two spots left out of
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to this really fun league, and
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not lucky enough to get in.
But it's gonna be a great time.

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The middle divisions are gonna play against
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two and who moves down to Tier
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So you and I jess here in
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our division to score the most points
to stay up in Tier two. It's

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going to be a fun caveat So, yeah, it's a good time.

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That's one of the perks of being
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it'll be a weird subplot. It'll
be fun. I've never done something

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like that, but it will keep
people engaged. I think late in the

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season, maybe build a little bit
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hey, it's a tier dynasty.
That's an oxymoron, because what if

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I like to have prospects and I
want to build not a maybe I don't

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want to fully call it a tanking
team, but a team that is based

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on the future. Am I going
to What's gonna happen? Look, if

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you land in the very bottom position, you're in trouble. But there will

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be plenty of people who get into
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based team, a dynasty based team, but are able to thrive in the

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league that they're in. And hey, you're building a dynasty team, So

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Victor, it's gonna be fun and
people can be a patron for that and

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for many reasons we recommend it.
But you don't have to be a patron

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to get into our discord. The
discord is free. You just have to

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email us Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail
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Victor Newnio twelve or at fan Hockey
Life, and Victor, I think that's

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enough of the chitter chatter. We're
going to get at her with Detroit Red

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Wings talk right now. We are
extremely pleased this day to be talking with

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Max Boltman of the Athletic on the
Detroit Red Wings. How you doing today,

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Max, I'm doing great, guys, thanks for having me. Oh,

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it's our pleasure, our honor to
talk about these Detroit Red Wings,

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a fascinating team. A couple of
facts about the twenty twenty two twenty three

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Detroit Red Wings fourth fewest shots in
the NHL eight ninety save percentage was tied

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for the eighth worst. Coupled with
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came out. The STEVIEWIRA has been
but slowburn rising so far point percentage is

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increasing a little bit each year two
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one, last year forty eight.
They peaked in late February where they were

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still sitting with the twenty eight twenty
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seven fifteen and two through the trade
deadline and beyond still landed him twenty fifth

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in points percentage. A lot of
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Tyler Tuzi, Philiponaic, Dominic Kubalik, Yaka Vrona, Alex Nandelkovic,

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but there was some incoming talent.
Do the Wings consider this year's team stronger

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than last year's at least on paper? And do you see them when do

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you see them challenging for a playoff
spot? Max interesting that on paper question

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because coming into last year there were
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top of the lineup who didn't actually
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being Tyler Bertuzzi, who broke both
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then obviously was traded, and Jacob
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for a lot of the year and
then listen to the minors, traded.

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If you asked it, probably at
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would guess their expectations are probably similar
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ago. But I think because they
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it comes out to them they should
be better team this year than they

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actually were last year, just maybe
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last year's team was. I think
alex To Brinkett is more of a sure

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thing than Jacob Bron, but there's
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of this dead eye shooter, and
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up because he's actually put it together
over these full seasons. He scored forty

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goals twice. Verona scores at a
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but he's just not on the ice
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they add in JT. Comfort I
think can be a reasonable replacement for Tyler

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Bertuzzi, and you see where one
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But the good news for them is
the replacement is actually over not having

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most both of those guys for most
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think the optimism is. I don't
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I think they should be in the
mix at least to come March, that

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they're within striking distance and it should
make for some more exciting hockey down the

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stretch. One guy who will be
leading the charge for that exciting hockey will

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be Dylan Larkin. Yeah. Again, the bright spot of this team really,

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I think, unavoidably is going to
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this era of Red Wings hockey,
which is not his fault because he has

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been outstanding for a number of years
here and in between. Presumably the streak

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of playoff appearances in the next one
and hopefully he'll still be going strong at

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that time. His thirty two goals
forty seven assists for seventy nine points in

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eighty games line led the team by
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over one hundred shots taken, faceoff
wins, faceoff win percentage, four time

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on ice all led the team.
The captain is now twenty seven starts an

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eight point seven million per year,
eight year deal this fall, signed just

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before the trade deadline. When he
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five offense went from pretty miserable to
league average at least twenty two percent increase

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in expected goals for P sixty.
Larkin is under the radar. How good

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is this guy and how much better
can at least his box score stats that

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we're looking at get with the twenty
three twenty four Wings. Yeah, that's

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a great question of how much better
they can. Yeah. I think that's

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something that people have wondered throughout Larkin's
tenure in Detroit, is what would this

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player look like with a better supporting
cast. I think you mentioned the shooting

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percent. I think that's a really
interesting thing to watch for people, especially

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from a fantasy perspective. On one
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say, shot thirteen percent last season. That's three percent above his career average,

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which you know of ten percent,
which is really thirty percent higher than

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that, and I think that could
be a little scary for people. On

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the other hand, I think you
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fourteen point six percent the year before. He actually already regressed last year into

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those numbers. I think to brink
it will help. I think my guess

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is the numbers will stay right around
there, whether it's seventy two points,

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eighty five points, somewhere in that
range. Right he had seventy nine last

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year, That would be my guest
for him right around thirty goals, right

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around seventy five to eighty points.
But you never know. You mix it,

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Alex to brnk it should we should
putting the puck on net a lot.

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Dylan Larkin could be cleaning up some
of those rebounds. Dylan ark And

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could be getting some assists that Hen't
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to brink it. So it is
possible that he does have another level up

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in him there. I just I
think he's a great player, and I

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think fantasy wise maybe has already hit
what I think he will be. But

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I think as he continues to grow, there is another level in here with

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his defense that could make him an
even more valuable player. And maybe if

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you're maybe if you're in a bangers
league or something, you can get some

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kind of credit for that. But
I think he's just a great player,

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and certainly I think they're best player
still a little more cider might give him

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a run here. Hard to argue
with that, but they certainly got another

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really great player and Alex to bring
it, and of course we have to

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talk about him next. And he
was a little disappointing, I think,

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probably disappointing himself and a little disappointed
with how things went down in Ottawa and

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tried to make the best of that
situation. I know that there was some

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frustration with just like his being able
to score, his shooting percentage was one

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of the worst of his career.
It's like almost five percentage points lower than

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his average, and so that was
a bit on the low end for him,

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the lowest time on ice he's had
in the past three seasons, and

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his pdo IP in power play ip
also all the lowest of his last three

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seasons. So you have to imagine
there's some positive regression coming here, and

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especially in some of his underlyings,
it certainly seems like he was snake bidden,

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and I know some of the Ottawa
press has described that like he hitting

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the post and just getting a little
bit unlucky. His contract four years at

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some point eight million seems pretty reasonable
for the high end score that he can

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be second highest player on the team
now behind captain Larkin. Sure seems like

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he should get top tier deployment and
regain some of that scoring prowess. So

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Max, we have to know,
do you think he can get back to

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that point per game neighborhood he was
in the past few seasons? Yes,

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I do. Is Detroit going to
be conducive to a forty goals season like

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he did a couple of times in
Chicago? My guess is not. He's

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not going to be playing with any
one quite like Patrick Kane, and I

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think just Detroit and general knows that
in order for their team to be successful,

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there has to be a ton of
defensive buying. But I think he

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should be. He played a lot
last year on the second line in Ottawa,

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but with Josh Morris out, that
wasn't quite as offensive a line as

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I think you would have expected coming
in. I think he should be playing

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with Larkin a lot this year.
Certainly he'll still be on the top power

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play and maybe you get some positive
regression just in that too. But my

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guess is I think he does tick
up right toward Larkin right around seventy five

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to eighty points, and I think
that would be a really successful year.

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I think if he's thirty three,
thirty four goals, seventy five or so

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points, I think you're gonna be
really happy with that if you're the Red

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Wings. I don't know where he's
going right now in fantasy. It'll be

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interesting because he's one of these big
offseason stories. I don't really think of

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him as someone who goes crazy high
and in drafts, although I admit that's

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not my expertise, but I could
see a world where he tacks a good

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number onto what he did last season. Lucas Raymond, Boy, this is

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a guy I'm curious about. Forty
five points, seventeen goals, twenty eight

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assists, and seventy four games last
year under two shots to night seventeen twenty

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three average time on ice. It
seemed like a big regression from that fifty

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seven point All Rookie Team season.
Culprit seems to have been in part a

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dropping shot total on the same shooting
percentage of twelve point five percent. A

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different version would note he also collided
at Ben Sharratt turning into practice and sustained

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a lower body injury that cost him
eight games, and then he went scoreless

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in the first five games back after
that. Raymond's played a lot with Larking

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over his first two years, and
changes in this roster now have me worried

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if that may be in doubt this
year. You'll have to tell us if

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that's the case. Is Raymond poised
to jump back to that rookie season production

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or even better, or is the
second year more indicative of what Raymond is

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going to be long term? I
believe that his overall body of work and

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pedigree says it's closer to what he
was as I think he'll be better than

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he was as a rookie long term. Up this guy was a top prospect

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right and you knew two years ahead
of his draft that he was a really

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good player. He spent the draft
year in the SHL, which when you're

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a young player, is not going
to give you gaudy point totals. But

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he was tearing up his peers in
his age group all the way up.

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And I think for him to step
right into the NHL and do what he

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did gave you should have gave me
a lot of confidence that, okay,

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that this is who he is.
Last year was a step back. I

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think it does tell you that he's
going to have to sort through some of

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the adjustments maybe teams made on him, just the general adjustment to the pro

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game that every young player has to
take. Certainly, I think you want

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to see him add muscle. That
will be one of the biggest questions I

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have coming into camp is does he
look stronger? Because he look he can

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fight through defenders a little better.
But I do believe the Red Wings still

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have a sixty plus point guy in
Lucas Raymond. Is that this year?

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Boy? They really hope so,
And it might come down to who is

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he playing with? Right I think
it's not impossible if you could see him

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on that line with Dylan Larkin and
with alex to Brinkett. He's been with

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Larkin the vast majority of his career
so far. But it's also possible that

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they are playing to bring in the
Raymond on different lines. They're both smaller

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offensive wingers. It wouldn't be shocking
to see them split up, and if

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that's the case, you could see
Raymond's numbers take a little bit of a

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hit. The Red Wings don't really
have an offensive play driving center anywhere close

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until on Larkin's level, Although injured. Coup is actually a really underrated passer,

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and I could see Lucas Raymond's goal
totals getting a bump if he plays

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a lot with Cop, but certainly
not to the neighborhood that I think I

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would expect him if he's with Larkin. And the deployment is a huge thing

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to watch here right from the beginning
of training camp in late September. How

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are they what looks are they going
with? And I think it's going to

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tell you a lot then, and
it won't be decided, obviously, until

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nothing's ever decided in the NHL.
You can change your lines every single game

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if you want to. But how
they come out viewing that I think is

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going to be a really good indicator
of what kind of year Lucas Raymond will

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have. I'm also curious to see
on the power play, Alex de Brinket's

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going to be in the spot that
I think he has had the most success

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at. He's gonna have to play
on that opposite flank. He did it

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a lot last year with David Perran. But when I was sorting through why

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did his numbers dropped last year,
one of the things I theorized was maybe

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it's because he was not in that
left flank on the power play. He

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was having to create on his strong
side, so to speak, not his

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one timer side, while David Perran
ran that flank. Now it's almost certainly

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gonna be Alex to brink it there, and on a four year deal,

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I think that kind of tells Lucas
Ram is not probably getting that spot back

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anytime soon. How what he took
away from last year and playing on that

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opposite flank, I think is a
huge factor here too, for sure.

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And David Perran, you mentioned he
had twenty four goals, thirty two assists

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fifty six points in a full set
of eighty two games. He was second

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in points on this team, two
and a half shots a game, well

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over hit per game. The thirty
five year old Perron's first year of a

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two year deal in Detroit was somewhat
below what he was doing in his most

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recent Saint Louis stint. He is
the other first line right wing option maybe

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for this team, depends how you
scramble all these wingers up. Like you

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said, if you're following the money, Perran would be in a top role.

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He and Raymond flip flopped his linemates
of Larkin quite a bit last year.

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I think I understood one of your
mail bank answers in The Athletic recently

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to suggest Purran would be a good
balance to to bring it on another wing.

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But what should we expect to Purran
for this last year before he presumably

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returns to Saint Louis yet again like
the monarch, butterflies migrate back every year.

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That's right, Yeah, I think
a big question will be the deployment.

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We talked about that powerplay spot that
I expect we'll go to the brink

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it now. Does that move Puran
down to It? Feels a little aniquated

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to call it the NetFront role at
this point because it seems like it's just

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as much the goal line role,
right you're facilitating from down there, and

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then maybe you work to the NetFront
for a tap and I think he'd be

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excellent at it, to be honest, That's what I would do. But

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we'll see what Derek Loan has in
mind for him. I'm very curious,

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but you alluded to my theory that
he makes the most sense as the opposite

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linemate for it to bring it,
because I think he's really good down low.

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He's really savvy. He's really hard
to get the puck off of.

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He brings a little more of that
grit and a little more of heaviness,

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frankly to that line that I think
he can win some pocks for Larkin and

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to bring it. Larkin's really good
at that too. But I think you

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don't want to ask your center to
be below the offensive goal line too much

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because they have all the defensive responsibility
of getting back and I think having him

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on that line would make a ton
of sense. It's also another really smart

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offensive player. He doesn't maybe have
the foot speed that Larkin does, or

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even to bring it does. It's
just not who he is at this stage

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in his career more really, it's
some of the early stages in his career.

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But I don't think that's a big
problem, to be honest. I

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used to think that was a big
factor. I remember when they remonstrated and

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joys Athena su to McDavid. I
was convinced that that was what it was

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going to take to really unlock Ath
and to SeeU Is finally play him with

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someone as fast as him. They
didn't really get much time together. That

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was the belief that was the COVID
season, but it nevertheless, I think

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it changed my perspective on what speedy
players need to play with and who needs

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to play with speedy players. It
doesn't actually matter to me if they can

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really keep that same pace, because
it's just as good if they're coming in

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as a trailer and the player with
speed can find them. So I like

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that idea for a line Larkin to
bring it in Puran, but we'll see

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other Edmonds choose to try them out. There's really a bunch of forwards on

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this team, so I'm going to
put two of them together, give you

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pick them. We got Andrew Copp, we got JT. Comfer, and

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there are different types of guys.
Twenty eight year old cop notch forty two

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points. He was tied for fifth
on the team, took most of the

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faceoffs that Larkin didn't. Between the
two of them, sixty two percent of

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the faceoff wins for the whole team. Confer was signed away from Colorado,

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on the other hand, where he
spent the first seven years of his NHL

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time. He's got the second longest
deal of anybody on the team now and

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with the Abs, notched fifty two
points in eighty two games at over twenty

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minutes a night last year. Sounds
like you're expecting him to play a lot

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of center again. I'm cheating and
looking at your mail bags, Max for

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the team. Two of the more
prominent signings of the team in recent years.

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Who will have the bigger impact as
Red Wing this coming season? Sure

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this season are going forward? Whichever
answer is better. It's funny because I

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think they're such similar players. I
think you know that they're both. They're

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both Michigan centers first of all,
and so it was Dylan Larkin. It's

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funny that the Red Wings now have
a three Wolverines down the middle. There

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but two way guys that I don't
think derive like the bulk of their value

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from their point production. But Ken
put some points on the board for you.

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I think Cop really stands to have
a bounce back. He entered last

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season off of abdominal surgery and I
think it really hampered him for the first

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couple of months, and I think
fully healthy down the stretch, you saw

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him come on a little more.
You saw him move a lot better,

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I thought, And I think Comfer's
arrival is going to take a big chunk

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of the burden he was taking so
many tough matchups last season because he was

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one of their best matchup centers,
and Comfort will be that too. Comfort.

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Also, they didn't have a right
shot center at all, and I

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think Cop had to get put in
a lot of starts that maybe weren't favorable

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to him where he was on a
dot. Maybe that is an advantageous to

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a left shot center, and you
lose that draw, you start in the

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d zone and stuff piles on.
I think having Comfort is going to really

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help Andrew Cop and I would predict
a bounce back for him in the neighborhood

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of I think he had less than
ten goals last year. I'm not saying

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he's going to go back to being
the twenty goal score he was the year

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they signed him, but it wouldn't
shock me if he's up at fifteen,

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sixteen goals and over fifty points this
season, partly because JT. Comfort took

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some burden off of him, partly
because he'll be healthier, and maybe he'll

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be with Lucas Raymond, which would
help to The Red Wings are just acquiring

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all the Michigan players. That's the
goal, yeah them In Columbus Yoh,

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that's true. Yeah, that was
really fun with Brindley this draft. Yeah,

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and Fintilly and they got Wrenski in
there. It's they're stacking him up,

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yeah, which is funny for an
Ohio team. That's right, that

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team up North. Let's do another
pick him here. I'm so interested to

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get your take on a couple of
these guys. Daniel Sprong, Jonathan Burgran.

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Sprong did really incredible things for Seattle
this season and eleven twenty five time

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on ice, he put up twenty
one goals and twenty five assists for forty

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six points fifty seven point pace if
you just look at even strength points per

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sixty In the NHL, there's a
bunch of superstars McDavid, dry Siddle,

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Robertson, McKinnon, Kachuck, Gutrov, TJ Thompson, RNH, Jack Hughes,

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Elias Petterson, and Daniel Sprong.
One of these is not like the

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other. I don't really understand how
he doesn't get more time on ice because

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he's clearly very good. Maybe some
guys are just efficient and more time isn't

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better. I guess that's possible,
but it's not like he's bad defensively,

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either like, he seems to be
a very strong two way player, so

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I'm wondering if he can even improve
upon that. If he could get just

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a little bit more time on ice, maybe he could be a sixty plus

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point player sixty five. I don't
know. And on the other hand,

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Bergran played sixty seven games in the
NHL last season, along with seven Etil

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games and seven World Chant people only
pace in the NHL with thirteen twenty eight

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time on ice. Spron would love
to get that much time on ice.

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So what do you think about these
two? Does Sprong get a bigger role,

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can he up his strong production with
or the low time on ice,

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or does Bergrand take a big step
forward? What do you think about There's

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two ways to take the whenever you
see a discrepancy like that in the purse

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sixties, right like and this was
a thing with Verona when he was in

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Detroit to the first way you can
look at it, and I think it's

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the way that a lot of people
choose to is, Oh, this guy's

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clearly really good. He's not getting
enough minutes. If they gave him more

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minutes, he would ascended to the
level of these other players who produce at

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that rate. The other way to
look at it is to say, he

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produces at this rate and he's still
not getting these minutes. What are we

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missing that his coach is seeing that
is causing him to not get those minutes.

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Usually the answer is some kind of
defensive fear or matchup fear that if

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I put him out against X Y
Z play He's going to get caved or

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something like that, or they feel
like they need to shelter the role.

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And I'm very curious to see have
not seen a ton of Sprong's game the

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last couple of years, but I
think when he came in, certainly the

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offense was the big calling card.
A Seattle obviously put up a ton of

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goals last year, and so that's
a pretty conducive scoring environment, even in

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low minutes. But I'm very curious
to see what he looks like in Detroit.

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My guess is I think he and
Bergan both probably will be more in

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that like thirteen to fourteen minute range
this year. Just because of the depth

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of the Red Wings have added higher
up in the lineup, I think is

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going to take some minutes away.
Dominic Kubalik was started out in a kind

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of a similar down lineup role that
Sprong did last year, but he worked

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his way up mainly because the Red
Wings were so banged up and so thin.

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I'm not sure that the same thing
is going to happen this year for

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Sprong to get high lineup opportunities,
but with three legit kind of top nine

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centers now, I think the odds
are good that he will get at least

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sometime in the top nine with one
of those guys, whether it's Cop or

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Comfer, and either of those two, frankly could do that Joe Valno two.

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It would be very interesting, I
think to see a line of Bergan,

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Joe Valno and Daniel Sprang, partly
because Sprong is one of their best

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pier finishers and Bergan is one of
their best peer setup men. I think

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at one point I even projected that
as the fourth line, and I would

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be very curious to see that as
a line. Valeno actually has connections to

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both of them, and Bergen are
good friends, and I think he and

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Daniel Sprung are from a similar area
of Montreal, maybe trained together in the

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summer, so it could be some
interesting chemistry between those three if they were

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play him together. I'm not sure
that I'm expecting Sprong to repeat his numbers

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from last year. I frankly,
I think it's likely he takes a little

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bit of a step back, but
we'll see. And obviously the power plays

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a big thing for him too.
If if the Red Wings having kind of

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a stronger second unit this year comes
to fruition, as I know, they're

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hoping he could be one of the
guys who drives that, who benefits from

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that as well. Burgan will be
interesting. He is not. He's a

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really exciting player. They don't have
a lot of guys him with his creativity,

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his vision. I don't think he's
a lock to play every single night.

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He's still a young player, and
they're gonna harp on his defense and

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they're gonna really want to make him
prove that they can trust him. And

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so there's I think a little bit
of risk there. There's also a lot

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of upsides. He's immensely talented,
very smart player. Two guys I'm really

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interested in seeing two And I don't
know that I'm going to know a whole

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lot for sure until we get twenty
thirty games into the season. To tell

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you how it's gonna go. This
one is just fun for us. A

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couple of depth guys who are,
as you said, bangers league specialists.

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Elmer Soderblam, Clym Coston. We'll
put him head to head. It's like

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Godzilla versus King Kong. Here.
Elmer is six eight eight points in twenty

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one games. Clem's only sixty three. But after he got free from Saint

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Louis and spend a year in Edmonton, he put up twenty one points in

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fifty seven games and was in the
top twenty five forwards of six hundred who

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qualified in minutes in terms of hits
per sixty. He was hitting every time

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he was out there, and Detroit
liked him enough to bring him in for

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two years two million per and presumably
both are gonna have depthline roles. Are

406
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,000
either of them going to hang on
to a significant role this season and maybe

407
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,279
not get the healthy scratches and get
out there and throw some hits every night.

408
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,720
Between the two, I would take
cost in all day in that.

409
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,559
I think Soderblum is six eight.
He does not yet throw his body around.

410
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,079
His thing is more his skill.
He's got frankly astounding hands for a

411
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,519
man his size, but did not
carve out the full time role last year.

412
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,720
It's going to be on him to
take somebody's spot going into this year,

413
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,400
and I think Costin they want to
get tougher, and I think that's

414
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,200
why they brought him in. He's
another one that I think is going to

415
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,799
have to fight for the role.
But I really do see him playing sixty

416
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:42,119
five seventy plus games for the Red
Wings. And you mentioned the hits per

417
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,799
sixty thing. That's exactly why they
brought him in. It's exactly what they're

418
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:48,480
gonna want to see him do.
Honestly, I'd probably take him even in

419
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,640
a non bangers format over Soderblum,
but in a banger's format, I'm taking

420
00:26:52,720 --> 00:27:00,599
him all day. Tremendous and in
defense, the defenseman Gostas Bear is the

421
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,640
first up here. He's the forty
fifth best defenseman in Fantasy hockey. Last

422
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:08,759
year he thrived in Arizona eighty two
points in one hundred and thirty four games

423
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:12,640
across the two seasons he was there, two shots and a block per game,

424
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,519
rounded up the skill set twenty two
and a half minutes when he was

425
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:19,599
in Arizona. Then he took a
detour to Carolina and has moved to a

426
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,319
more crowded blue line in Detroit than
he's seen in a few years. His

427
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,359
careers definitely had ups and downs,
but honestly, it's been pretty good since

428
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,519
the late Philly time when he really
was bottoming out. Sounds like you might

429
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,279
have him slotted in is at least
a short term heronic replacement if I'm reading

430
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,599
right. But could he get a
similar twenty two minutes a night, and

431
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,759
could he get some power play one
time? Or they're just too many good

432
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,519
defenseman that we haven't talked about yet
who were going to take that role.

433
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,279
It's possible that he could get power
play one time. Yes, I think

434
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:52,720
that they want a power play quarterback. Would not shock me if they went

435
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:56,160
with him over more at Cider,
But we're gonna have to see. I

436
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,559
think Cider is gonna want to have
something to say about that too. In

437
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,319
terms of the ice time, I
have to say, I'm not sure that

438
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,480
I see him getting twenty two and
a half minutes in Detroit. Maybe it

439
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:07,279
could happen, certainly if he has
power play one that helps his odds.

440
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,720
I think I see him more in
the nineteen to twenty range, but we'll

441
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,200
see. I think when he did
go to Carolina. He was playing seventeen

442
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,839
minutes a night, and Detroit's blood
is not as good as Carolina, but

443
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:23,519
it's also a lot better than the
Arizonas. And so I think he's gonna

444
00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:26,680
have to carve out a second pair
role to get into the twenties. I

445
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,640
think it's totally possible that he does
that, but I don't see him playing

446
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,720
on the top pair. I think
that Jake Walman and Mort Cider were excellent

447
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:36,039
faither last year. I assume they're
going to stay together. And then the

448
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:40,519
Mings kind of have four guys who
you would probably if you had your pick

449
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,799
of things, probably play all four
of them on third bears, but two

450
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,359
of them are gonna have to play
on the second, that being Shane Gossis

451
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Bear, Ben Sharaz, Jesin Holland, Olimta, Simon Edvandson may work his

452
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:52,240
way into that mix at some point
too. So he's got as good a

453
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,200
shot as any of those guys is
playing on the second pair. But I

454
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240
also would say all those guys have
as good a shot of him of doing

455
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:02,039
it too. That's true training camp
battle to sort out. If he gets

456
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,240
the minutes, you'd expect with Shane
gossip Spier. Okay, you bring him

457
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:07,799
in, He's gonna get thirty to
forty points for you on the back end,

458
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,720
probably ten goals on the back end, be a difference maker on the

459
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,200
power play. That's why you add
him. But I think that even strength

460
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:21,680
role is probably going to determine just
where that falls in that range. Yeah,

461
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:26,200
definitely. I was a little skeptable
about that ad just because Cider has

462
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,799
done such a good job and they
do have some other defenseman that can fill

463
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,480
that role. But he's there now, so we'll be interesting to see what

464
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,359
he does. And that's now shift
to talk about most Cider as the one

465
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,440
d here. And he slid back
a little bit from his rookie season fifty

466
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,480
point pace in his rookie season forty
two point pace. Last season, his

467
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:49,960
block shots hits, his bash was
rated at fourth for his position with similar

468
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,960
time on ice. He's just a
beast in that regard. And when you

469
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,759
look at you mentioned him doing really
well with Walman, and I think that

470
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,920
was a huge change. If you
look at Michael Mica, Blake McCurdy has

471
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,359
some really good smooth ice time,
it shows that in the beginning of the

472
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,279
season he was with Sharrott almost exclusively, and then that kind of switched close

473
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:12,359
to the middle of the season,
and when you look at his replacements,

474
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,279
literally everyone on the ice with Cider
made him worse except Jake Walman and Ben

475
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,079
Sharratt was quite the anchor for him. I think that was a big reason

476
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,640
why he maybe didn't do was what
past season, And so I hope that

477
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,319
pairing continues with Walman because he seems
to do much better and that seems to

478
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:34,160
open him up to do a little
bit more. So do you expect maybe

479
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,920
a little bit more of a step
forward from Cider this upcoming season playing with

480
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:44,119
Walman, maybe getting back to that
fifty plus point pace that he had in

481
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,720
his rookie season. What do you
think we can expect from most Cider this

482
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:49,480
year? Yeah, I do think
that's reasonable and realistic. Part of it

483
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,720
depends on the power play. A
lot of his production is going to come

484
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,119
on the power play. If he
gets done to PP two, maybe your

485
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640
expectations for the point totals change.
I gotta say, though, while that's

486
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880
true about he played a lot better
with Walman, part of that is he

487
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240
was just playing better, right,
I think It's really easy to say once

488
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,240
he switched away from Sharatt he got
better. But if you go back and

489
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:11,480
you watch some of those early season
games last year, some of this was

490
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,359
just Cider off an amazing Calder winning
rookie season, forcing plays early in the

491
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200
season, And I would have a
hard time blaming Ben Sharatte for that.

492
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Sharrott did not have a great first
season Detroit, There's no way around that.

493
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,880
But I think it's a little too
convenient to just say, oh,

494
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,319
that's the reason that Cider started off
a little slower too. I think that

495
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,880
was a lot of his own doing
and he self corrected it as even as

496
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,799
his parent with Sharatt went on.
And then I just think he and Walman

497
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,160
are a great fit together. They're
both such excellent skaters, and frankly so

498
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,359
Sharratt, but Walman maybe not chasing
the hits quite as much. The two

499
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,319
of them just seemed to really work
well together, outstanding rush defenders, transition

500
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:52,480
the puck up ice really well,
so that I do think that will be

501
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,799
remain a pairing next season. Is
good for both of them. But I

502
00:31:55,799 --> 00:32:00,039
don't think it's just quite as simple
as getting him away from Sharatt fair,

503
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,400
that's why you're the expert analyst.
No, that you're right. I'm sure

504
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,519
there was big expectations coming off the
Calderwin and trying to do a little much.

505
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:13,839
And I do think it's interesting though, and what it does to a

506
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,799
player when someone like Sharad is chasing
the big hit and the physicality, right,

507
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:22,240
It changes your read on the situation
that might have affected Cider a little

508
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,079
bit different way. It changes what
you have to do when your partner is

509
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,240
doing that. Yeah, Nope,
I think so true, and it's a

510
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,759
valid thing for sure, But I
do think that some of those turnovers were

511
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:35,799
just seemed to be him trying to
make a big play sometimes. Yeah,

512
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,440
for sure. Let's talk about some
of the other defensemen. You mentioned some

513
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,799
of them already, and I think
the first two we already talked about are

514
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,319
the main ones that are going to
get points for Fantasy. But I'm wondering

515
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:49,519
if anyone else can get close to
thirty five point pace. We've talked about

516
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,680
Walman already. Mata, of course, I'm really excited about Semen Edmondson.

517
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:57,680
I wonder what kind of role he's
going to have. He looked good at

518
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,920
times in his nine game sample size
that were definitely some moments that didn't look

519
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,240
as good. But what do you
think about Edmondson? Do you think he

520
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:07,599
can play more than nine games this
season in the NHL? Can anyone get

521
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:14,279
more than thirty five points point pace
that's not named Cider or gossips Bear The

522
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,200
best bet I think would be Walman. I don't think we saw the full

523
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,960
extent of his offense last season,
but I also would say he's got a

524
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,559
huge shot and I expect he's going
to get into the double digit goals this

525
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,200
year, may even be more valuable
than just like the raw assists depending on

526
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440
your league scoring set settings up,
but I could see him getting into the

527
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:36,000
thirties and a lot of those being
goals because he is a real weapon activating

528
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,440
and off the point. He'd be
the guy I would watch Edmondson. I

529
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,880
do think he's going to play more
than nine games this season that I think

530
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,039
he's gonna be a really good player
for them. I'm not sure he's gonna

531
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,240
put up crazy point totals, although
if he were to run the power play

532
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:51,240
that obviously would help. But I
think I would take both Cider in Gossip

533
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,839
Spear ahead of him running the power
play. I don't borrowing that power play

534
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,880
opportunity. I don't know that I
see him getting into those kind of totals,

535
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,839
especially if he's going to start the
potent actually injured. He had surgery

536
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,599
this offseason, so we'll see where
he is in his recovery. But I

537
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,159
don't think he's going to be into
the thirties this season. Obviously, different

538
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,599
keeper, dynasty, whatever, that's
a different conversation. But yeah, I

539
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,599
think he's a really good player.
I just don't know that I see him

540
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,360
getting those kind of point totals this
season. Walman would be the guy I

541
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,880
would lead to. Yeah, that's
fair. And I know you're a bit

542
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,440
of a prospect expert as well,
and I've talked with some of the people

543
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:29,840
like Mitch Brown, who it's really
interesting about these prospect defenseman. Right,

544
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,039
everyone wants to know who's going to
run the power play in three to five

545
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:35,079
years, and obviously no one really
knows the answer to that question. But

546
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,639
I know that some really think that
Simon Edmondson is the most dynamic and has

547
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,360
the most upside, maybe even more
than Cider or anyone else they have here.

548
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,400
Do you think beyond this season that
he is the one with the highest

549
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,360
upside or do you think it's more
even and really up in the air.

550
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,039
I would lean towards Cider, but
I have to say I love Simon Advinson's

551
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,599
game. I think he's incredibly valuable, But just from a fantasy perspective,

552
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,599
I see at this point Evanston does. He's an absolutely gorgeous skater for his

553
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,119
size, and he has great hands. You don't see that out of six

554
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:09,239
six defensemen often, and I think
that's why people will see him and go

555
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,639
the upside here is nuts, and
I think that's true. But when I

556
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,199
think of what I have seen from
him so far, the things that get

557
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,920
me the most excited are how good
his defensive stick is, how much physicality

558
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,400
he's added into his game, and
how good he's been transitioning the puck.

559
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,199
Those things are so valuable to an
NHL team, and I think make him

560
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,599
for me a future top payer defenseman. But it's not so much yet.

561
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,119
It has not so much yet been
all these power play plays. Now,

562
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,480
he does have a real knack for
kind of keeping plays alive at the blue

563
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,039
line, and he can make somebody
miss at the blue lines, set up

564
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:44,960
a goal, he had a couple
of goals in his nine games last year,

565
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:49,880
so if you project that out,
obviously that's very encouraging. But I

566
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,960
think just from a fantasy perspective,
I probably would lean towards Cider, and

567
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:57,199
I think still in a team building
perspective, i'd lean that way too.

568
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,280
But Evanson's upside is really promised.
I just when I look at him,

569
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:06,119
I see more of this future true
shutdown guy, you two way guy who

570
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,559
will drive offense, maybe just not
be the one getting it in the goal

571
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:14,159
or assist column. And what an
incredible pair that would be. Especially they

572
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,519
are opposite handedness, which makes for
a very easy fitting. I'd play them

573
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:21,360
on different pairs just to make sure
that I had one on the ice for

574
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:23,840
forty five to fifty minutes of every
game. That's how I think about it.

575
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Like for me, when you have
a guy of that caliber or potential

576
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:31,079
caliber on your team, it's a
huge benefit to know that you can breathe

577
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:35,239
easy for twenty to twenty five minutes
a night. And if I have two,

578
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,760
I'd rather breathe easy for fifty minutes
a night rather than breathe really easy

579
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,559
for those twenty five I play them
together. Yeah, yeah, No.

580
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,880
It reminds me of like when there
was Pronger and Nieda Meier playing together and

581
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,360
it was like, yeah, fifty
minutes of the game, you just got

582
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,800
nothing when they were there. That's
how I view it. Yeah, yeah,

583
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,599
it's a great point, fantastic.
Let's talk about the goalies. The

584
00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:00,159
Wings were ranked fourteenth in expected goals
against P sixty and strength according to Evolving

585
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,639
Hockey. They gave up the twenty
third actual goals, so a bit of

586
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,320
a slide there in terms of actual
versus expected. Of course, mainly we

587
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,079
got to talk about Billy Husso.
His first full season in Detroit didn't quite

588
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:15,159
go as I'm sure everyone would have
liked coming over from Saint Louis. Playing

589
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:22,599
forty games last season where previously he
had seventeen or sorry, forty last season

590
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,079
and then seventeen this season before the
fifty six in Detroit may have been a

591
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:29,719
bit much, and he had a
negative goal save above expected of seven point

592
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,440
seven eight As Delta. Fenwick was
also negative at point four, but playing

593
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,679
a lot of games that might have
been an issue for him. He's got

594
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,760
two years left at four point seventy
five, very reasonable contract and definitely start

595
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,880
our money, but not breaking the
bank. So Max, do you think

596
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,199
Husso was still going to be the
unquestioned starter. I have to imagine so,

597
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,440
especially with Rhymer backing him up.
I don't really see much of a

598
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:54,039
challenge there. I don't think their
prospect goals are quite ready for the show

599
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:58,880
yet. So can we expect maybe
a bounce back from him if maybe Rhymer

600
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,320
can give him a little bit more
support then he had last year? Yeah,

601
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,480
I think that is what it comes
down to. I do think the

602
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:07,639
workload seemed to catch up with him
at various points. If you look at

603
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,559
the first two months or so and
then the first few weeks out of the

604
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,239
All Star break, that's when he
had his best numbers. As the game

605
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,199
started to stack up, that's where
he started to have the tough stretches,

606
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,679
and I think you have to wonder
if that was fatigue main culprits. You

607
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mentioned Rhymer. Also, Alex Lyon
is in there as a guy they brought

608
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:29,960
in, and it'll be curious.
I would guess that Rhymer wins that job

609
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,719
at a camp, but it wouldn't
shock me if at some point Alex Lyon

610
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,599
is the primary backup and whoever it
is, they need to give Whoso I

611
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:39,199
think a little more of a breather. I don't know that needs to be

612
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,760
a ton. I think he can
play forty five fifty games, but I

613
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,320
think just those extra six games can
get you depending on where they're placed,

614
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,400
and they turn a two game week
or three game week even into a four

615
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:52,719
game week, that really can put
you in a tough spots. I think

616
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,559
that is the key to whether Whoso
can bounce back, And frankly, I

617
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,480
think whether he bounces back is the
key to this team is as good as

618
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,119
they think they can be and challenging
for a playoff, or if they just

619
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,840
end up right back where they were
this season. If he doesn't take a

620
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step, it's very easy for me
to envision them being another eighty to eighty

621
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,960
two point team. Let's picking on
the top ten. But if he can

622
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,840
take a step, I think you
can threaten ninety points, maybe even get

623
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,639
a little above ninety points if he's
back to being the goal that he wasn't

624
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:22,440
Saint Louis. Yeah, very good
point. I'm hopeful it seems like he

625
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:27,320
can. I want to ask you
just one more question about the prospect goalies

626
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:29,679
and we cover them in a different
part of the show, but I know

627
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,880
you're really plugged into the team.
And Cosa obviously super high pedigree, taken

628
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:38,800
really early when they traded up in
twenty twenty one, and Augustine is who

629
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,119
they took this year. Very different
goalies, right, He's much smaller,

630
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,639
like, very competitive, came to
the US NITP program, also more of

631
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:53,000
strong position, very structured in his
movements, and Cosa big athletic, good

632
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,880
reactionary saves. It seems like they
got the best of both worlds here.

633
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,679
I imagine Cosa still on track.
I know some people look at the ECHL

634
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,039
time and think, oh, he's
what a bust. They had to put

635
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:06,000
him in THETHL, But that was
my design and he needed to get some

636
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:09,639
games and some confidence. I imagine
he's still on track to maybe two to

637
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,519
three years from now, be their
starter. So do you have any comments

638
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,639
on these guys? Yeah, I
think it's a huge X factor for the

639
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:22,000
organization of how Costa develops, right, Like, he was always going to

640
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,719
be a longer term play when they
picked him. They could have taken,

641
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,480
yes, for Walstett, who was
more of the polished or thing, but

642
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,480
they went for the tools that Coast
had, the size, the athleticism,

643
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:35,159
and I do think it's two or
three years away still from the NHL.

644
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,760
Let alone as a starter might even
be longer than that. More work to

645
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,679
do there, but that is a
huge pivotal factor and how this rebuild goes.

646
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,719
If they can get him to be
a top half of the league,

647
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,840
top fifteen starter in the NHL,
it's just a massive piece for an NHL

648
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,639
team to have. And if he
can't, and if he's just more of

649
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,440
a low end starter, that's going
to set you back because it's it is

650
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,559
hard to find those guys. It's
why I think they use the round pick

651
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:04,559
on him. Low end starters you
can usually find. The Red Wings traded

652
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,000
a third round pick for one in
Billy Husso a couple of years ago.

653
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,360
It's those top half of the league
starters, those guys that win you playoff

654
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,239
series, that make it worth using
a first round pick on a guy,

655
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:15,920
even a second round pick like they
did on Trey Augustine, a very different

656
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,639
goalie, I think, a little
more polished, probably a little quicker path

657
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,039
to the league in terms of from
his draft day. They may end up

658
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:27,400
riding right about the same time,
actually, and I'm very curious see how

659
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,440
it goes. He's a much different
goalie, much smaller, but still pretty

660
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,679
athletic. It looks pretty comfortable in
there. I think they need one of

661
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,199
those two guys to be a top
fifteen kind of goal in the league,

662
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,599
and if not, they are going
to have to use some major assets to

663
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:42,760
go find one. So it's a
really big X factor for them in the

664
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:49,159
trajectory of the franchise. Wonderful stuff, Max, Who really appreciate all your

665
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,000
insights on this Detroit Red Wings team. Why don't you let people know if

666
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,800
they don't know already, how they
can keep up with your work. Yeah.

667
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,519
The Athletic dot com is our website. You can click on the red

668
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,320
Wings tat and find my stuff that
way. I'm on Twitter at at m

669
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,400
underscore Boltman, and you can generally
just find me with some variation of that

670
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:09,400
on most of the platforms and Twitter
imitations that have popped up. I gotta

671
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,119
admit I'm not checking them very often, but trying to be ready in case

672
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:17,480
that the need ever arises. But
for now I'm still on on Twitter very

673
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:22,440
regularly. That's mainly where I post
my stuff other than obviously our website tremendous.

674
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:25,519
YEP. Absolutely we'll be doing that. Max. Thanks so much for

675
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:29,719
coming on and talking red wings with
us. My pleasure, guys. Glad

676
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:38,320
we finally got it to work out. Wilson, that's good fired passed up.

677
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:49,400
Oh my goodness, quick grab Now
it's your weekly goalie talk with Cats

678
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Silverman Cat's Instincts. Time again for
Cat's Instincts with Cat Silverman from End Goal

679
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,039
mag. Of course, with Detroit, we have a really great goalie to

680
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:06,360
start with, and that is Sebastian
Cosa. That was Detroit's twenty one first

681
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,079
round pick fifteenth overall. There was
another Swedish goalie that went after that I

682
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,360
thought might have been a better choice, but we'll see how that works out.

683
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:19,039
Cosa six foot six, two hundred
and nine pounds, very large frame.

684
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,440
He had a pretty weak performance at
the World Juniors last year, and

685
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,480
this season was pretty interesting for him
because after that he was demoted to the

686
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,039
ECHL, where he was actually really
good. That might have been more just

687
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:35,599
about getting reps than any sort of
other punishment, but his HL numbers do

688
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:42,159
look quite poor. During that three
game stin small sample size his hockey prospecting.

689
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,400
It's interesting he's trended down since his
stellar WHL days, and he still

690
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,800
looks like a fair number of decent
goalie Stewart Skinner is one comp that looks

691
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,280
pretty similar to where he's at right
now. And I was looking at sport

692
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,079
contract has some underlying numbers of like
goal save above expected, save percentage above

693
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:05,599
expected, and most of these are
actually really good, So maybe there is

694
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:08,119
a little bit more than just looking
at the raw numbers. So Kat,

695
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:13,480
what do your instincts tell you about
Cosa? Oh, that's a tough one,

696
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:19,320
because I like you. I thought
there was there was another goaltender who

697
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,079
was available that year. Nobody really
knows who that is. It was Jasper

698
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:29,159
Walstat, and I thought that he
was the consensus number one that draft year,

699
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,760
and then they didn't take him,
and I thought that was really weird.

700
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,719
I thought Sebastian Cosa was fine,
but he was playing on a WHL

701
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,800
team that When I was talking to
one of my one of my goalie coach

702
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,119
buddies over in the Prairies, he
said, Oh, of course Kosa looks

703
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:52,760
good. He plays for such a
powerful team that it would be a bigger

704
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,679
red flag if he didn't look good. So I watched some of his film

705
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,920
and I thought he looked creative.
He's a big guy, and he still

706
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,000
manages to to get some speed going. He he doesn't get too complacent,

707
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,239
doesn't just use that that big frame
we talked about, He doesn't just use

708
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,679
that to block pucks. He does
a good job of remaining active with his

709
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:16,719
hands, trying to essentially plug up
plays and hold the puck, make sure

710
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,320
that the puck's not going back out
into traffic, because he just doesn't have

711
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:28,159
that same lateral reverse that some smaller, essentially more agile goalies can have.

712
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:30,039
But I didn't think he was the
best goalie in that class. They took

713
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:36,679
him first, and then they made
it known I believe, first that they

714
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,039
were sending him back to the Major
Juniors as an overage player, which was

715
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:45,960
surprising, especially because the WHL didn't
have as many shutdowns. It's not like

716
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:50,119
the OHL where they lost an entire
year from COVID. But then they announced

717
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,960
that they were putting him in the
ECHL this year, and I thought that

718
00:45:54,119 --> 00:46:00,400
was actually smart all things considered.
He didn't look necessarily ready to jump from

719
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:07,800
being behind a super powerful WHL team
to the HL in a rebuilding system.

720
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:14,440
So giving him that step where he
gets consistent reps and not making it seem

721
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,159
like a demotion mid season, just
from the get go, saying hey,

722
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,480
this is where he's going, this
is where we're assigning him. We're going

723
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:24,199
to keep him close, we're gonna
keep an eye on him, and we're

724
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,800
we're not gonna mess around with floating
him up and down because that can mess

725
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,440
with the kid's confidence. I thought
that was a sneaky good move on their

726
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:36,239
part, and he did really well
there. He didn't do super well during

727
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,199
his few games in the AHL,
but that's okay. That a three game

728
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,360
sample size isn't anything that we need
to look at as a huge red flag.

729
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,119
Yet, especially with the number of
reps he got in Toledo this year,

730
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,880
I think we're just going to have
to I think he's certainly not ready

731
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,400
to make the immediate jump. We've
seen so many of those first round guys

732
00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:00,239
over the last couple of years that
looked like as soon as they at the

733
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,039
pros, they'd be ready to make
their NHL call ups. So we talked

734
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:08,920
about Urslavaskarov with Nashville. We talked
about Spencer Night and how quickly he went

735
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,400
up with Florida, and I just
don't think that Cosa is in that tier.

736
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,719
I just don't think. And that's
not any fault of his. He's

737
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,960
just not in that elite. Of
course, he's going to be an NHL

738
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,760
starter tier. He just looks like
a really good goalie who needs a couple

739
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:31,679
more years of development there. Yeah, I just think it's weird when the

740
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,400
Detroit Red Wings don't take the best
suite available at any position, since they're

741
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:43,039
so heavily in trying to buck that
trend so badly that they played themselves.

742
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,119
If I remember correctly, they also
traded up for that pick, and I

743
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,679
was like, Oh, cool,
they're gonna They're gonna trade up and get

744
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,960
well said, And nope, they
took Cosa. We'll see. I'm speaking

745
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,679
of Spencer Night. He's going to
come up in a second here because he

746
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:01,159
relates to the next goalie they took
Trey Augustine. As in this recent draft

747
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:05,599
twenty twenty three second round pick.
There was such a run of goalies there

748
00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:07,840
in the second round is crazy.
I was at the draft and one of

749
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,239
the one of the people saying,
next to me said on the second day,

750
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,440
happy goalie Day, and I was
like, what, oh, yeah,

751
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,119
it totally was goalie day. And
they were fast and furious. And

752
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,960
I can't remember what number goalie Augustine
went, but he was one of the

753
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:28,360
early ones and he's meant oh,
I think he was like the third though,

754
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,719
which is crazy that in the second
rounds there were that many in the

755
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,760
top quarter. Yeah, it was
fast and furious all of a sudden,

756
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,719
it was disbuilding. Actually I have
it right here. So it was Guyan

757
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,679
Harabel Augustine. You're right, he
was the third. So Augustine six ft

758
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,280
one hundred and ninety pound goalie.
He's actually from Michigan, southlyon Michigan going

759
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:53,719
he went. He was at the
USNTDP who stationed there. He's a Michigan

760
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,719
guy, is going to Michigan State
and he was drafted by the Michigan team.

761
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,000
So it's just all Michigan there.
Great story for him and he was

762
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,320
really good for the us NTDP that
the team was really good this year,

763
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,320
and sometimes that can be hard to
play for such a high flying team.

764
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,559
And in that gold medal game for
the UA teens, he the team looked

765
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:15,280
awful and he really kept a minute
that whole game until they could figure out

766
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,400
their offense and score a couple of
goals and win. So I from what

767
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,320
I've seen from him, and I
know Golie expert, I really liked the

768
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:24,840
between the years part, like the
compete level. He seems like he's really

769
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,599
got that even though he's not the
biggest guy, and I don't know if

770
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:32,440
he's the most athletic, but I
really like some of the intangibles that I've

771
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,960
seen from him, and looking at
just some other USNTTP guys I mentioned Night,

772
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,559
he actually looks pretty similar to Spencer
Night currently. His draft season equivalency

773
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,199
was slightly higher than Nights. Actually, of course we saw a nice linear

774
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,480
upward trajectory of Night though, So
we don't know what's going to happen with

775
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:54,480
Augustine. But this system that he's
in makes sense though too, because Cosa

776
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:58,880
is so much farther ahead. I
think that's a kind of nice placement for

777
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,320
him. So, Cat, what
are your instincts tell you about Augustine?

778
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,840
Does he have the potential to maybe
challenge Cosa one day? It's going to

779
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480
be years from now, but what
do you think. I think it's smart

780
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:15,480
that Detroit went with a goaltender who
potentially could spend four years developing in the

781
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:22,519
collegiate system, just because we like
we saw with Coosa, there was whether

782
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:27,400
it was the right thing or not. There were people murmuring when he spent

783
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,639
an over gar, and there were
people murmuring when he went to the ECHL,

784
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:37,159
and too many major junior guys.
If you don't have that immediate confident

785
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,079
knowledge that either number one, they're
going to need to spend a ten of

786
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:44,000
time in the HL, or number
two that they're going to be ready to

787
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:47,880
go pro pretty quickly if you take
them in those top rounds, it can

788
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:53,119
create just an arab uncertainty if they
don't immediately follow the path that everyone wants

789
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:58,880
to see them on. So it's
nice seeing someone that will get that breathing

790
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,519
room. I like we plays.
I think that sometimes with the US and

791
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:12,519
the National Development Program, you see
some guys who watching them play, you

792
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:16,039
hope that something is going to drastically
change before they go pro because you just

793
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:21,760
don't really understand what makes them the
best school in the United States. And

794
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,760
then others you've seen you really understand
what they're doing there. And I'd say

795
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:32,119
he falls in the latter category,
really seems to thrive and shine when plays

796
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:37,599
are getting really crowded around the net. He's good at seeing through traffic,

797
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,639
He's good at remaining calm, does
a good job at just maintaining his structural

798
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,199
foundation when it comes to his technical
game, even when the play in front

799
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,719
of him gets a little haywire.
Which with the National Development program, just

800
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,679
because they play so many different teams
from so many different levels throughout the course

801
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,679
of the year. They play college
teams, they play USHL teams, a

802
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,280
lot of those guys play on the
national teams they had to play at their

803
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:06,039
countries, and he just does a
good job of maintaining Blake Spencer and I

804
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:09,440
just thought consistency in his game,
where he knows his technical foundation and he

805
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:15,239
holds it regardless of the level of
skill he's playing against, which is one

806
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,639
of the things that I liked seeing
at night, and I'm hoping we'll get

807
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:22,760
to keep seeing it in August Seine
two. Definitely, I'm excited for these

808
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,639
two and thanks so much for giving
us your instincts on the Detroit Red Wings

809
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:47,079
goalies. Of course, we'll be
back right after this good dynasty Diggs.

810
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,360
This is too good digging for the
Detroit Red Wings. Victor's rankings have these

811
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,199
team ranked seventh, tied for seventh
in the league. That's a summary of

812
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:04,320
the rankings of the time prospects on
the team. Your Compulsory Weekly mentioned they

813
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,320
chose Nate Danielson in round one,
which it's almost a meme at this point

814
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,719
because we've talked about Nate Danielson many
times, and usually not in a complimentary

815
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,280
light, but we're not covering him
today. We're also not covering Exel sandein

816
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:20,639
Pelica. We're covering some of the
guys who were already in this prospect system.

817
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,639
Victory, you are very familiar with
this system. You spend a lot

818
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:28,480
of time analyzing it for dabber prospects
I know, and it starts out with

819
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:31,679
our no brainer. Who's our no
brainer? Victor. One of my favorites,

820
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:37,800
Simon Edmondson. He was the twenty
twenty one sixth overall pick. Six

821
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,880
foot six, two hundred and sixteen
pound left handed d was in the HL

822
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,440
this season after a nine game NHL
trial where he looked really good at times.

823
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:49,320
Watching those games, he definitely looked
like he could hang. He probably

824
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,000
could have hanged all season, but
I know they wanted to get him a

825
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:57,079
lot more reps and more role in
the HL, so he spent most of

826
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:00,920
the time there. Five goals twenty
two assists in fifty two games, and

827
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:04,599
in the two nine games he played
with Detroit he had two goals, no

828
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:08,880
assist, which is weird. But
he did have shoulder surgery in May first

829
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,320
and so that projects to have him
out four to six months. As we

830
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,599
talked about earlier, that could be
an issue with him and potentially not being

831
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:22,360
ready for training camp. That depends
on how the recovery goes, how he's

832
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,480
feeling, and sometimes those Saints can
get tweaked and be out longer. He's

833
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:30,679
got three years left on the entry
level contract. Definitely should be in line

834
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,119
to compete for a major role this
year, even with the Red Wings,

835
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:39,760
depending on how the shoulder feels.
Jacob Stoller has his really awesome player cards

836
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,559
that he puts together, and he
has sma Edmondson at a forty nine percent

837
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,400
game score, which is not great, but there's some really good parts and

838
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,719
also important to mention that he was
a top pairing defenseman in the HL.

839
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:58,320
So the things that are really tops
for him, the corsi against and expected

840
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,760
goals against were top ten percent of
the league. He also had really good

841
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,599
finishing, and maybe that's hinted at
in his two NHL goals. I don't

842
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:09,519
know that's interesting. He also was
really high for goals and assists, but

843
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:15,719
really low in shots, which is
interesting because he was a volume shooter growing

844
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:21,599
up in his previous spots, especially
in Rogela, and his actual expected goals

845
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:24,400
for and Coursey four were not as
good. So maybe that's just being a

846
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,400
younger guy in a really tough league. I'm not really sure what to make

847
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,440
of that, but overall, I
don't think that this player card points to

848
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:35,599
any major issues with Edvanson. It
might have just been the role he was

849
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:38,000
asked to play. But we need
to learn a little bit more about what

850
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,199
makes c One Evanson so good,
and from that we get to hear from

851
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:49,119
our FHL scout. Our scouting reports
today are all from FHL scout Jeremy.

852
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:52,679
Jeremy, our chief scout, are
awesome dude who just gets it done for

853
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,079
us, and we really appreciate this
guy. He stepped in and did some

854
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:01,000
stuff last minute. Let's just say
we have skating the first thing to say

855
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:06,119
about Evanson is the skating is elite. One of the best skating defensive prospects.

856
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,960
Long, powerful strides that allow him
to cover ground quickly, very strong

857
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:14,199
on the skates, passing handling above
average. Evans is not going to wow

858
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:16,320
anyone of his hands, says Jeremy. But he's an efficient past sort of

859
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,400
good vision. Shooting good doesn't seem
much here, doesn't seem to join the

860
00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:24,920
rush a ton isn't shooting to score
from the point, which is rare among

861
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,599
defenseman anyway. Jeremy says IQ above
average, good at reading the play both

862
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:37,719
offensively and defensively, defense, rush
and in zone. Above average viscality in

863
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,960
front of the net will endear him
to coaches and teammates, and he has

864
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,159
a deft poke check. I do
find him stationary a bit often for my

865
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,960
liking, which keeps him from the
elite rating. Best asset, then,

866
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,159
is speed, if coached and utilize
correctly, that could be both an offensive

867
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,559
and defensive threat. Biggest concern.
Doesn't look to shoot or create on his

868
00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:00,719
own as much, seemingly reliant on
teammates to drive the offense. Top tier

869
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:06,119
role. What's his top outcome?
Top line power Play one if not brought

870
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:10,480
by Cider power Play two otherwise,
Yes, Jeremy still thinks that Cider is

871
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:15,440
the better offensive talent of the two. And the median outcome for this guy

872
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,599
a really good second or third pairent, shutdown guy. Stylistic comparable he goes

873
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:24,000
with Charlie macavoy. So that's the
eye test. Combined with those stats that

874
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:30,280
we just gave you. The information
that we get from the NHL ranking shows

875
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,760
that he is about between first line
and second line potential, not a bad

876
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,199
thing for a guy who's just breaking
in. And in terms of a comparison,

877
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:45,960
Mason Black gives us Simon Evanson versus
Pavlo Minschikov, and which one you'd

878
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:52,239
rather have on your fantasy team?
The incredibly sexy anaheim Duck who's popping up,

879
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,599
popping out these days and has moved
to the top of that ladder for

880
00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:00,159
some or Edmonson, who's maybe he's
been there for a couple of years perhaps,

881
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:06,679
And the poll came out Pablo Minschikov
fifty four to forty six over Simone

882
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,199
Edmondson. Victor Evanson's your guy,
but I know you're also a Minshikov stand,

883
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,159
So is this the same way do
you see Minschikov in a buy a

884
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:20,840
nose? This is really tough.
I do really like both of these and

885
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:27,559
I'm sure you can consider the system
that each are in. And Minshikov obviously

886
00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:30,679
has Zelwegger, and there's Drysdale and
some other guys there too. I do

887
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:37,360
think he's probably the top of that
crop. And actually, in our Mitch

888
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,960
Brown episode, we spent quite a
bit of time offline talking to him about

889
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,480
these the duck situation, and he
was interesting. He really talks about how

890
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,800
they're all a little different, so
they can all be top pairing defenseman but

891
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,880
have different types of roles and so
anyways, I think Minshikov is great,

892
00:58:54,239 --> 00:59:00,400
and I do think he actually has
pretty decent all around potential and top power

893
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:06,079
play kind of thing. And Edmondson
similarly, can have some issues in terms

894
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:08,519
of being a little bit blocked.
Obviously there's Cider there, there's some other

895
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:13,840
good defenseman. Wallman was good.
Obviously they have Gosta spare now, so

896
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:16,440
it's gonna be a little bit tricky
for him. But the thing I like

897
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:21,199
about both these guys is that their
bash projects to be elite, So both

898
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,880
of them are going to have a
really high floor. They have an offensive

899
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,800
upside, but they also have kind
of an all around just do everything get

900
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,960
you points in lots of ways and
a floor for them, and so I

901
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:37,559
like them both. Right now,
currently have Edmondson ranked eighth and Minschikov thirteenth.

902
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:42,440
That probably sounds farther apart than it
is. I think the full the

903
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:45,559
poll is fifty four forty six,
and I think for me it's probably even

904
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:49,519
closer than that. It might just
come down to team preference and how close

905
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:52,519
they are. And Evanson is literally
ready to walk into the NHFL right now

906
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:58,920
as some of the shoulders fine,
So that is potentially a tiebreaker for me,

907
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:02,320
and so I think God would lean
Edmondson just because I've liked the progression

908
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:07,920
every step of the way. Minchikov
is good as he has been, is

909
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,119
still on the OHL and still has
to prove that he can do it at

910
01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:15,639
another level. And Edmondson has basically
been proving this in the professional ranks from

911
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:19,320
the very beginning, since he was
playing in Sweden against bigger, tougher,

912
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,840
stronger competitions. Yeah, I'm gonna
go Edmondson. It's pretty close. Though,

913
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,159
and both of these are great options. So if you look at the

914
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:31,840
hockey prospecting model, yeah, Edmondson
is one year farther along, and so

915
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,760
his star potential has dropped a little
bit, or actually it held steady twelve

916
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,760
percent. Didn't look quite as good, which is unfortunate. But as NHL

917
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,159
or probability is really high, and
Minchikov actually raised his from nine percent to

918
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:49,559
twenty percent after his draft season,
which is really nice. That's really hard

919
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:52,840
to do, especially in the OHL, So you gotta really like that.

920
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:57,480
And I would think that this basically
looks similar for them. It's not too

921
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:00,679
much different. In terms of Sin's
other comps. A lot of them are

922
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:07,199
really good. It's got some John
Carlson justin Fulk. Sean Dursey is one

923
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,440
guy. I think he looks a
lot alike, and I think, especially

924
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:13,960
for the strong peripheral coverage, that's
probably a pretty appropriate comp that Nate put

925
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:19,719
in here. And really like that, so probably something similar. I think

926
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,519
Edmondson has more potential to be a
one D than a Shan Dursey type does,

927
01:01:24,679 --> 01:01:29,840
but we'll see. I like the
size and the physicality that he has.

928
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:34,760
I should mention that the top down
hockey model with Jay Fresh has a

929
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,480
much more conservative view of Edmondston.
They have just four percent chance of being

930
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:40,400
a star, but a ninety nine
percent chance of being an NHL or so,

931
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:47,000
so there's that chassee for sure.
I think there's no doubt we're going

932
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:52,159
to see him playing at what is
it Little Caesar's Marena these days, No

933
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:54,519
doubt about it. Victor. Next
up, you've got your need to know

934
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:59,679
prospect. Who is it? Yeah, they need to know is Carter Mazer?

935
01:02:00,679 --> 01:02:02,519
Twenty one third round pick, six
foot zero, one hundred and seventy

936
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:06,880
two pound left wing. Played primarily
in the NC DOUBAA this season for the

937
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,840
University of Denver. Won a national
championship with them a couple of years ago,

938
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:15,679
and they were a little not as
good this year. Still a really

939
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:20,599
strong NC DOUBA team and he had
a fantastic season for them. He had

940
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,760
twenty two goals, fifteen assists thirty
seven points in forty games. That's pretty

941
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:31,039
incredible production. He also had three
goals three assists in six games for Grand

942
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:36,280
Rapids. That was pretty incredible to
show off point per game potential in the

943
01:02:36,519 --> 01:02:38,519
HL. At the end of his
college season, Denver didn't go quite as

944
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:43,760
far this year. He also was
then selected to represent the USA at the

945
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,800
World Championship against men. Remember this
is a really weird tournament where they have

946
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:52,320
like college guys and pros that aren't
in the NHL playoffs, and he did

947
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,280
pretty well. Four points in ten
games may not sound like a lot,

948
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,239
but it's a pretty tough jump for
him, and he definitely looked not out

949
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,880
of place there, So I think
that's about as good as you can hope

950
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,639
for. He will probably be with
Grand Rapids and start of the season.

951
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:08,280
I guess there's a possibility he pushes
for a spot in camp, but I

952
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,199
don't really think he's ready, even
though he looked really good in the HL.

953
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,639
Will benefit from a full season there. And he did sign his entry

954
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:20,320
level after leaving Denver this season,
so he's definitely not going back there.

955
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,719
So that's good to know. But
we need to learn a little bit more

956
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:27,679
about Carter Maser. So we get
to hear this again from our boy Jeremy

957
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,480
stepping up. What do we got
Jesse? Jeremy got it done. Talking

958
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:35,519
about Carter Major, he says the
skating is above average, a good skater,

959
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:38,559
but could use to gain some strength
on his feet. Passing handling average.

960
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:42,559
His mind works a bit faster than
his hand, but the right ideas

961
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:45,840
there for passes. Shooting average to
above average. He can pick his spots

962
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:51,440
when given time, but often seems
reticent to shoot, and he looks for

963
01:03:51,519 --> 01:03:57,280
the perfect opportunity. The IQ above
average. Maser is good at finding soft

964
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,559
spots to wait for passes and also
cut enough assum leans. Defensively, he

965
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:08,119
processes the game at an NHL level
already for checking elite, he consistently hounds

966
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:13,440
the puck carrier, applying pressure and
forcing bad decisions. Defense elite. A

967
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:16,119
true two hundred foot player, Miser
is not afraid to go to the goal

968
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:19,800
line to goal line as a wing. He always looks for the right place

969
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:25,119
to be and helps out his teammates
in the zone. So the best asset

970
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,920
is for checking and intensity. Biggest
concern the offense is not translating, Jeremy

971
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,760
says. The hustle and attitude are
there to the point where he will be

972
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:38,400
a fan favorite regardless of the role, but he may not be fantasy relevant.

973
01:04:38,639 --> 01:04:41,719
Is warning there, of course,
we need to keep that in mind.

974
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:45,480
Top tier role, where could he
get up to second line all situations

975
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:50,400
guy is where Jeremy could see him
peeking out tough matchups, penalty kill time,

976
01:04:50,519 --> 01:04:55,519
net front on powerplay one or leading
power play two. Despite the four

977
01:04:55,639 --> 01:05:00,960
checking skill, does not see the
banger upside on this guy and percent role.

978
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:04,800
The median outcome for mister Mazer bottom
six energy forward with three points a

979
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:11,599
season. Stylistic comparable Yanni Gord everybody's
favorite guy you'd love to have on your

980
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:15,199
team. The motor is similar,
as is the ability to pitch in on

981
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,840
offense, even though the skills are
not elite. The NHL ranking data for

982
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:26,800
the NHL EO similarity score comes out
about to that just a touch above second

983
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,440
line potential is where Carter Maser comes
in. And then we're going to compare

984
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:34,119
him, and we're going to compare
him to Isaac Howard, who was the

985
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:39,519
first round pick of the Tampa Bay
Lightning, not this year but last year.

986
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:45,400
And in comparing the poll came out
Isaac Howard fifty four forty six.

987
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:47,920
Once again, the Red Wing loses
buy and knows what happened to all the

988
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,039
Red Wing prospect towns who are waiting
for their prospects to come up because they

989
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:55,920
didn't win this one. Is that
how you would see it too, Victor,

990
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,719
Yeah, I definitely. I think
it's closeness is close. I like

991
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,599
Maser, and as Jeremy mentioned,
I'm just not sure that the offense is

992
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:11,719
going to translate to this top tier
level. He is someone who just has

993
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,079
a nose for the net. Though
he's fights, he has a good shot.

994
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:17,760
I think he can be a pretty
depth, good depth scorer at the

995
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,039
NHL level. I'm just not sure, as he pointed out, how much

996
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:26,400
fantasy value that's going to have,
right, Those kind of depth forwards usually

997
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,000
aren't too exciting. If she does
twenty goals twenty assists, that's like,

998
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,519
probably pretty good for him, but
not great for your fantasy team, right.

999
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:39,159
So I think Howard probably has a
little bit more upside than that.

1000
01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:44,239
And he's in the Tampa Bay system, which is pretty devoid of pretty high

1001
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,840
upside guys with talent, So I
like that. I do think that Howard

1002
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:53,320
probably has a higher upside, even
though right now neither one of them look

1003
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:58,400
that exciting. Maser has never really
popped off to be that great, but

1004
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:01,559
I think Howard still has a big, pretty good potential. He looks great

1005
01:07:01,719 --> 01:07:05,639
at He looked great last year at
the USNTDB and transitioning to University of Minnesota

1006
01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:09,079
Duluth. That's a big step,
and he didn't have the biggest role,

1007
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:13,159
so being roughly half point per game
wasn't too bad, but it made his

1008
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:17,199
star potential shoot way down did Isaac
Coward. So that's a little bit part

1009
01:07:17,239 --> 01:07:21,400
of what maybe looks a little off. He came in HEASA Coward came in

1010
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,000
at forty percent chance of being a
star, and I was down to twelve

1011
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:27,920
percent. But I think that was
just a kind of a rough bump at

1012
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,880
the US at the NCAA, so
I think he has a little bit more

1013
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,280
upside than that. Major Basically,
if you look at his hockey prospecting,

1014
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:41,440
it's pretty sad he's zero percent chance
of being a star all four years,

1015
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,159
which is not what you want,
Jesse, that's not what you want.

1016
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:47,840
So I think, yeah, definitely
has to go Howard here. There's more

1017
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,440
potential, more upside. Frankly,
I'm not even sure it's that close according

1018
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,639
to according to this poll, just
because maybe Major is doing a little bit

1019
01:07:55,679 --> 01:07:58,400
more now. So you might look
at his HL production and go ooh,

1020
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:01,360
that's fantastic. But I don't know. If I had Major, I would

1021
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:06,760
sell him for Howard instantly, no
question. And the rest of the comps

1022
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:12,480
for Major looks like mostly replacement level
guys. No one that's super that interesting.

1023
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:15,159
Mkhil Volkov is one of the comps
that Nate put in here, which

1024
01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:19,760
yeah, no one probably remembers,
so not super exciting. Tap down hockey

1025
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:25,479
model. Similarly pessimistic one percent chance
of being a star for cater Carter Major

1026
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:30,600
and actually only six percent chance of
being an NHLer. That second number is

1027
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,159
probably crazy low, but yeah,
I don't really expect too much from him,

1028
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:39,039
Jesse, but I think it's worth
it in a league where you want

1029
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:44,800
someone who's pretty close and you're going
to find out right away for sure.

1030
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:49,079
And Victor. The last of these
who is the keep your eye on prospect

1031
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:56,479
our keep your eye on is Marco
Casper, twenty two eighth overall pick six

1032
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,880
one two pounds center played a full
season in the SHL for roguelub BK.

1033
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:06,000
Eight goals fifteen assists in fifty two
games. Wasn't what we were hoping for.

1034
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:11,319
Twenty three points in fifty two games
when he had eleven last year and

1035
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:15,600
forty six and we were hoping for
a lot more, especially he was playing

1036
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,279
so young in the SHL and he's
an April birthdate, so he's pretty much

1037
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:24,640
playing the whole season a year younger
than everyone, so he's hoping for a

1038
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:30,640
little bit more progression. He played
six more games and put up eleven twelve

1039
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,800
more points, so that's not bad. You were hoping for a little bit

1040
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:38,800
more progression from him. He did
sign his entry level after that, and

1041
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:42,760
he did play one game with the
Detroit Red Wings broke his kneecap, actually

1042
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,960
finished the game, which was crazy. Tough guy. Seems like he should

1043
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,920
be fine ready for the HL next
season. He probably will push for a

1044
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,000
spot in camp, and with all
the recent acquisitions they made down the middle,

1045
01:09:55,279 --> 01:09:59,079
I think it's possible that he could
make the team because they probably won't

1046
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:01,640
ask him to do anything in the
top six, so you can probably handle

1047
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:05,239
a bottom six roll. But we
need to learn a little bit more about

1048
01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:11,680
micro Casper Jesse's so let's hear from
RFHL S. Jeremy has been watching tape

1049
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,000
and I think he's happy with it. Skating elite, Casper has both street

1050
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:19,800
line speed and side to side movement. Both fast and shifty and should give

1051
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:24,800
even NHL defenders fits along the board
at coming out of the corners, passing

1052
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,640
and handling above average. He's got
a good shot, but he needs to

1053
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,079
shoot more. He was much more
a garbage collector and grinder in the games

1054
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:36,960
I saw as opposed to a rush
shooter IQ above average. Casper's anticipation on

1055
01:10:38,079 --> 01:10:43,199
rebounds and loose Pucks's phenomenal, often
beating opponents to take them to take over

1056
01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:47,359
possession. Elite Casper is not overly
physical, but is diligent on the puck

1057
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:53,600
and good at creating chances off his
pressure. Defense average strong in pursuit,

1058
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,760
but he has a habit of getting
sucked down low in the zone. He's

1059
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,600
also a touch late to start hustling
back after eternal So the biggest asset here

1060
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,359
speed. He uses it to create
chances on offense and force the play on

1061
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:10,760
defense. Biggest concern lacks a bit
of defensive effort at times, but Jeremy

1062
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,399
suspects this won't be an issue.
So what's the top outcome for this guy?

1063
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,199
Jeremy thinks it could be a point
per game top line center. That

1064
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:23,640
would be perd arn nice for Detroit
and the median outcome where this guy could

1065
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:29,039
come out sixty sixty ish point second
line center who gets some hits and the

1066
01:11:29,079 --> 01:11:34,600
stylistic comparable a higher upside Nasim Cadre. Everybody loved Naso Cadre a couple of

1067
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:39,479
years ago. He got paid that
guy, So maybe Marco Casper's got some

1068
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:45,079
chances too. The pnhl E equivalency
score or similarity score is coming out just

1069
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:50,119
a little bit above second line potential. Matt Calvert, Scott Lawton, Rasmus

1070
01:11:50,199 --> 01:11:55,239
aspland are the guys who comes out
similar too, so that's not quite as

1071
01:11:55,359 --> 01:11:58,560
enthused the numbers. But don't like
him as much as Jeremy does. But

1072
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,279
Marco Casper, in the poll that
our good buddy Mason Black put up,

1073
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:09,479
compared Marco Casper to Matthew Coronado of
the Calgary Flames and late of the Harvard

1074
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,560
Crimson, And for the third time
in a row, the Detroit Red Wing

1075
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,359
gets slightly nosed out by the competition
Coronado over Casper fifty three forty seven.

1076
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:26,039
In a split decision victor shouldn't we
put cap shouldn't we give the Wings fans

1077
01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:31,239
one here? Or his Coronado the
decisively better prospect. I think he is

1078
01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:36,720
better, and it's not that we
don't like Casper, and I think in

1079
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:44,159
real life I'm taking Casper for sure. I think having that middle six potentially

1080
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,760
one see, you're going to take
that all day, every day. But

1081
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:54,800
I think Coronado has more value and
fantasy. He's probably a winger, and

1082
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,000
that can be a little bit easier
to get relevance. When you're on the

1083
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,039
wing. You don't have to do
his much defensively. Not the Coronado is

1084
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:06,079
bad defensively. He probably cheats a
little bit for offense though, But yeah,

1085
01:13:06,079 --> 01:13:11,079
I think that he's better. You
look at the trajectory on hockey prospecting

1086
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:15,560
and he's been pretty much double or
more of the star potential of Casper all

1087
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,079
the whole way. It is worth
noting, though, that Coronado is a

1088
01:13:19,119 --> 01:13:24,000
November birthday, so he's really old
for his draft class, and Casper April

1089
01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:28,880
eighth is really young for his so
there's not quite a year's worth of difference,

1090
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,960
more than six months, So there's
some potential difference there and that might

1091
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,319
play in a little bit. So
Casper still has more of a runway Coronado.

1092
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,439
It's been a little easier for him
to play against the tougher, bigger

1093
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,479
competition. He's had some nice representation
at the World Juniors. He's played at

1094
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,920
Harvard the last two years been basically
a point per game. I really like

1095
01:13:49,079 --> 01:13:55,199
this about Matt Coronado. He had
exactly the same point totals in both his

1096
01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:58,840
NC Double A campaigns, thirty six
points and thirty four games. Each time

1097
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:02,640
freshman saw runn have to do any
math to just know what the numbers are.

1098
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,119
So I really appreciate that math.
That's really smart of you. That's

1099
01:14:05,119 --> 01:14:09,880
probably why you're at Harvard. Good
job. And but no, I think

1100
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,600
he has more upside and he's knocking
on the door. He played one game

1101
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,960
for the Calgary Flames and he looked
really good, and that one game,

1102
01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:18,000
it was like, why why did
we not playing this guy more? Was

1103
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:21,960
basically what it seemed like. He
also went to the World Championships and we

1104
01:14:23,039 --> 01:14:28,279
talked about Carter Maser and Matt Coronado
went and he had eight points in ten

1105
01:14:28,359 --> 01:14:31,239
games. So talking about looking really
good, showing up Carter Maser there,

1106
01:14:31,279 --> 01:14:34,600
I guess a little bit. But
no, I think Coronado has way more

1107
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:40,800
upside. He's better in the prospect
pool too. I definitely like him.

1108
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:45,640
If you look at some of other
Casper's comps, he's looking Maybe I didn't

1109
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,279
say it, but he's down to
eight percent chance of being a star now

1110
01:14:47,319 --> 01:14:51,159
forty seven percent chance of being an
NHL, So a lot of his comps

1111
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:58,600
look like kind of replacement level people
or potentially bus Nick Bukes Dad is someone

1112
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,840
who looks like in this model,
mathematically not necessarily stylistically abused at it's a

1113
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:12,399
much bigger, more kind of power
forward type, but anyways, average producer.

1114
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,079
That's potentially what we could have to
look forward to for Casper. I

1115
01:15:15,159 --> 01:15:21,239
think that's a pretty possible outcome.
Hopefully Casper can find more offense, and

1116
01:15:21,279 --> 01:15:25,239
as Jeremy said, maybe he does
end up being more of a top of

1117
01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:28,359
the line player, but I think
he could also easily settle into being just

1118
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:32,640
a middle six center. So the
top down hockey model also a little bit

1119
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,840
more pessimistic six percent chance of being
a star, sixty sixty five percent chance

1120
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:43,640
of being an NHL or so.
Yeah, definitely not as exciting for Casper,

1121
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,600
but he's still a good player,
and I am still excited that he

1122
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,720
looks like he's going to be close
to being NHL already. I think these

1123
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:54,479
guys are both really close, but
Cornaro being a year older, probably a

1124
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,760
little bit closer. But yeah,
that's all we have time for. You

1125
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,359
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1126
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1127
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haven't done yet. I actually did
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1128
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1133
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