1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:16,280 Clippers fans. Welcome to season two, episode forty nine of Clips in Dip 2 00:00:16,519 --> 00:00:21,120 your Favorite Maybe Clippers Podcast. I am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Ausland 3 00:00:21,199 --> 00:00:25,960 and William Updyke. We're thanking everyone who's been watching us on YouTube over at 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,039 YouTube dot com slash at Clippers Podcast, and a big shout out to the 5 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:32,079 new listeners as well. The Clippers are doing well, which means more people 6 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,799 are listening to us, which is great for us because we love bringing you 7 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:38,560 Clippers content. We're gonna talk the Grammy trip, the game versus the Peals 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,520 coming up, and then the PJ Tucker self induced trade rumors. But first 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,640 before we get into all of that, Adam and will you guys did a 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,920 great live this last weekend. The Clippers are playing great. Adam, how 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,320 are you feeling on this rainy Los Angeles easing I feel stupid, guys. 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 I had the Clippers going for and through on the road trip. I was 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,679 way off. Didn't see him beat in Boston. Thought they get to split 14 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:07,640 the last two games, and yet here we are the Clippers, what just 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,519 a half game back of being in first place in the Western Conference. So 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:17,519 this team continues to amaze. Yeah you, uh yeah, can't believe I 17 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,280 got I was surprised when you said four and three. If I'm being honest, 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,359 I thought you were gonna be on team five and two. My logic 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,840 was, you know, I didn't think they'd get the game in Boston, 20 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,760 second day of back to back, and I thought with the injuries, and 21 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:34,040 I thought maybe PG would miss more time and that somehow would affect things. 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,719 And it's just a tough road trip, but speaks to how damn good this 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,239 team is six and one? Baby, Well, how are you doing? 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,840 I'm doing good. I mean, they exceeded my expectations as well. I 25 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,640 think when we were looking at the schedule with that five and two number, 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,959 I think we all kind of assumed second night in Boston, second night of 27 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,040 a back to back, that one's probably when you drop. And I think 28 00:01:56,359 --> 00:02:00,000 I think I had. I'm pretty sure I had picked the Caps as maybe 29 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:04,680 their other loss, because they were playing really hot even before the trip started 30 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,439 for the Clippers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think like around 31 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:09,520 that time, they had just started beating good teams as well. They weren't 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,240 just like slapping up on some like lower level competition. So yeah, they 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,360 exceeded my expectations. Man, I'm doing great. It was pretty crazy. 34 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:24,319 Law Murray had the stat on Twitter. The Clippers franchise has had twenty six 35 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:29,879 road trips of at least seven games. The Grammy trip was the nineteenth since 36 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,919 the arena in Downtown was open in ninety nine. They went six and one, 37 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:38,439 which makes it tied with the early season twenty fourteen twenty fifteen trip for 38 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:44,439 the best in franchise history. And it's only the sixth winning Grammy road trip 39 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,759 for the Clippers ever, which is crazy. And we should give a shout 40 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:53,159 out to Law Murray who was at every single one of these games, which 41 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:59,080 is incredible from a reporting standpoint. Yeah, the first two, so I'm 42 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:04,800 not gonna get many no credit. I love Law. He came on with 43 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,000 me pre game almost every game on the road trip. He's amazing. He's 44 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:10,479 been crazy. Yeah, losing to the Cavs team, it makes sense. 45 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,520 There's not like a whole lot to be mad at here. What Like, 46 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:16,439 I don't know what was your favorite part of the trip, Adam. It 47 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:21,960 felt like Kawhi kind of cemented his MVP status a little bit more on this 48 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,759 trip. People starting to wake up Finally, in the national media saw that 49 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,599 tweet from Anger and war Snowski earlier talking about the numbers he's put up last 50 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:35,000 thirty games. Nobody's ever been that efficient before Baby fifty seven percent from the 51 00:03:35,039 --> 00:03:39,439 field, over fifty percent from three. It is something to behold with just 52 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,159 how good Kawhi Leonard has been. But also, you know, they've been 53 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:46,039 winning in a variety of ways, and I don't think they're playing their best 54 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:52,240 basketball that defensively. Coach leu went after them postgame giving up one hundred and 55 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,360 what forty four points the Atlanta Hawks. Now, I just like seeing that. 56 00:03:55,719 --> 00:04:00,280 I like seeing the fact that they're demanding perfection in Kawhi after the win 57 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,400 against Detroit, saying we're relying on talent too much. It should be about 58 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:11,800 execution. So they're saying all the right things. Everything with this team is 59 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:15,319 having one eye in the regular season and another on the postseason. What happens 60 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,680 in the regular season, what can work during the regular season, doesn't necessarily 61 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:23,079 work in the postseason, So you have to get ready for that because the 62 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,160 expectations are to win a championship. So the mentality has just been great, 63 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,399 And coach lou said before the trip that their goal was to go six and 64 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:36,199 one. He put a number on it five and two at worst, and 65 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,199 they did it. So I couldn't be more proud of this squad and the 66 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,120 way they're trending right now. Will who is your MVP of the trip? 67 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,879 Do you think other than Kawhi? Sure? I mean obviously other than the 68 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:54,480 guy who's you know, the MVP of the league. Uh, Big Zoo 69 00:04:54,519 --> 00:05:00,560 for coming back, you're giving him brownie points. I didn't expected it was 70 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,800 unexpected, That's true. I did not expect it came out of nowhere? 71 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:08,560 Did you see that from Lot Murray as well? He told me this pregame 72 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,600 and then he tweeted it out yesterday. But Big Zoo had circled the Miami 73 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:16,240 Heat game because he felt like that's where he could help the team most going 74 00:05:16,319 --> 00:05:19,319 up against Bam one Bio, he wanted to make sure to come back for 75 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:25,120 that game. So he had his own personal goal of winter return, and 76 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,079 it's also wrapped up in a team goal. So I just i'd love that 77 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,519 you're loving the synergy. I love how much you love the synergy of the 78 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,839 Clippers right now. Yeah, Zoo limited minutes in the return, but I 79 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:41,519 mean they did need him against BAM out of BIO. I think Lucas Han 80 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,160 tweeted out that Harden played, you know, eighty minutes over that last back 81 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:48,800 to back to close out that road trip, and I knew he'd played a 82 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,439 lot of minutes, but just seeing that from James Harden, with the level 83 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:57,680 of play he was at average seventeen seven and nine with the steal in the 84 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:04,399 block like that, I mean, why not that many? Y'all look five? 85 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:10,240 But yeah, right, that was a fan. He was fantastic. 86 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:12,639 I mean everyone had to be obviously, but he was a really it was 87 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:15,720 really cool to watch him be great on this road trip. He has the 88 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,040 game in Detroit where Will and I were getting inundated on the live with people 89 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,800 being alarmists and worried about James Harden and where he's at, even though he 90 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:28,399 just had a triple double right beforehand, or I think it was against the 91 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:31,399 Toronto Raptors maybe in the opening game of the road trip, but he had 92 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:36,279 just four points against Detroit, some people were concerned. The next two games 93 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:42,079 he has three four point plays, and he leads the league in four point 94 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:46,360 plays this season by a pretty wide margin over Steph Curry. But that shot 95 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:49,959 that he hit against the Atlanta Hawks, it was the biggest shot of the 96 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:55,560 game. It was insane, just luring in Trey Young to draw that foul 97 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,240 and then the bank was open apparently or he was calling game the old Paul 98 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,600 Pierce. It was incredible. Do you think because I wonder, it's crazy 99 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:08,040 he has so many more than staph considering kind of the frequency of this year 100 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,040 compared to Steph. So I wonder, and I tweated this how long the 101 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,319 NBA, I feel like they're going to figure out a way to outlaw whatever 102 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,199 he's doing to get four point plays. I'm not saying they should, but 103 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,879 this feels like something the NBA, as the league would be upset about, 104 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,160 well, typically in account thing or anything anymore. You know, It's not 105 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,480 like it's not like a technicality. I feel like it's just inherent in the 106 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,839 way that he creates space that a defender kind of has to reach, right. 107 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,360 It's like, I don't know, like a like an inside low pitch 108 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:42,279 or something like you're gonna try to swing at it. Like it's just it's 109 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:45,040 just what happens. So I feel like, yeah, I feel like his 110 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:48,519 well, his athleticism is like clearly declined from where it was at his peak, 111 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,160 and that MVP season, like his IQ is still off the charts, 112 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,879 and I think like that's a huge part of that is the way that he 113 00:07:55,959 --> 00:08:00,000 knows what a defender is thinking, like he knows when he's got you. 114 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,360 And I think that that is like, I mean, he sets traps. 115 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:05,120 I'll say that, but like I don't mean that. I don't mean that 116 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,000 in a bad way or a negative way, but like from a mental game 117 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,920 standpoint, he's setting a trap and I think that's why he's getting so many 118 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 of them, is you know, he also knows that this is part of 119 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,360 his game that he has to I don't want to say rely on because he 120 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,040 can still get to the rim I mean with the ease apparently, but it 121 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,360 is something that you know conserves him a little bit in game I'll say that 122 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:26,480 in game rest, like they always used to say about Lebron. Yeah, 123 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:33,960 the most productive in game rest the four point play probably. Yeah, Yeah, 124 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,200 something to say. I did want to bring up that, you know, 125 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,240 in the postseason, traditionally with James Harden, you're getting less of those 126 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:45,600 calls because they let you play more a more physical brand of basketball for him 127 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,679 and Norman Palell. It just can't be a surprise when all of a sudden 128 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,440 some of these ticki tac calls on the perimeter are granted, they're working right 129 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,960 now, You've got to be aware of that come the postseason, where they're 130 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,200 just gonna let you get away with a little bit more. Uh. You 131 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:03,960 see Norm already kind of alter his game right Like, I feel like for 132 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,480 a little while a period there he was fishing for contact and now when he's 133 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:09,840 like looking to finish aggressively, I still think that's a call. A call 134 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,679 he's getting in the playoffs, like he's getting clobbered and he's yeah, you're 135 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,600 right. I feel like you can really tell when Norm's looking for the foul. 136 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:18,879 There's times where you're like, we see it. As soon as he 137 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:24,240 decided to drive on this road trip, Norm shot forty on five and a 138 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:30,120 half three pointed times per game, which was fantastic. Isn't that that was 139 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:35,120 average? It might be yeah, because he's oh, that was yeah, 140 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,240 that was Adams player to close out the trip on the on the back to 141 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:41,320 back in the in the other game the last three games, who could you 142 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,320 pick and be wrong? About though on this road trip, really like so 143 00:09:45,399 --> 00:09:50,200 many guys were thriving. Everybody was a safe Paul George, hey, you 144 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:54,919 know, seventeen four and three with two steals. He didn't shoot well, 145 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:58,759 but he was so good. He was solid. Yesterday after those strings of 146 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:05,039 twenty point games come on, I thought it was more, even though they 147 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,919 gave up a lot of points, and some of that was just really hot 148 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,720 shooting and maybe not being good enough early in the first quarter and guys finding 149 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:15,000 a rhythm and then you can't turn it off. But I thought for the 150 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:18,679 most part the last couple of games, Paul George defensively looked really good and 151 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,360 in tune, and knowing that he's struggling with his offense, he has to 152 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:26,759 bring more on the other end. And that's part of the value of having 153 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,840 James Harden and having a team this deep where Okay, yeah, I don't 154 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,360 have it going right now, how else can I help the team where it's 155 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:39,799 not necessarily a detriment because you don't have that offensive workload on your plate now. 156 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:41,600 Because if James Harden has it going, a norm Powell has it going, 157 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,399 if a mere Coffee has it going, okay, find another way to 158 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,559 help this team win. And I think that was I think that was like 159 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,039 a clear success of this Grammy road trip and why it was better than so 160 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,600 many of the other ones. It's like players did have these ebbs and flows, 161 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:01,720 but everyone was able to kind of like fill in between in a way 162 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,399 that like, you know, we've seen in fits and bouts throughout the two 163 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,360 and three era, but never to this level to me, And I mean 164 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:09,960 it just got me thinking, like, you know, we you know, 165 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,960 we went six and one on this stretch. You know, a couple couple 166 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:20,279 less than stellar defensive performances. Offensively, this team is looking unreal. I'm 167 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:26,000 thinking in a seven game series, there's no way there's not at least one 168 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,080 game. We're all three of Paul Kawhi and hard and hit, and if 169 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,279 they play defense at the level that we know they can, I don't know 170 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:37,519 how you're not running a team out of the gym. Like seriously, I 171 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,679 don't know how you're not just clabbering the team at least in the first couple 172 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,039 of rounds. I don't know, We'll see, but you're not all three 173 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,200 the three leg parlay. Buddy, I won't be doing this podcast anymore. 174 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:54,639 No, I mean it's gonna be. They're at one hundred and twenty two 175 00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:58,120 offensive rating or one hundred and nineteen offensive rating I think, or something. 176 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,799 I mean, it's up there with the best in the league, one twenty 177 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,759 two since November seventeenth, with the starting lineup, and probably a little higher. 178 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:09,120 I pencil in for every Clippers, like for every Clippers the game now. 179 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,840 But yeah, and like once the defensive side of the ball catches up 180 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:15,799 a little bit, you know, because it's not like the defense is having 181 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,480 to win them games right now. It will in the playoffs at some point 182 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:20,799 for sure. But I mean, you're you're right man, watching this team. 183 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:26,240 I people are talking about trades in these things, but I'm just like, 184 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:31,679 there's not a top nine that's beating this team in seven games right now, 185 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:35,039 or a top eighty, like there's It doesn't feel like it as of 186 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:41,080 February six seven. It doesn't. But March's oh, we know there's March. 187 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:43,360 But that's why Time stamped it at them. That's why I hit them 188 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:50,600 with the I just don't want to end up prisoners of the moment too much 189 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,399 here. As good as this team is playing right now, and I agree 190 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:58,080 they can still be much better, especially defensively. There's a lot of quality 191 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,080 teams out there. I don't expect them to do that against Boston. If 192 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:07,799 they met in the NBA Finals, they didn't have Christaf sporzingis still in that 193 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,000 game. That is a completely different team when they do have him on the 194 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:20,320 court. So I don't want to overstate or get ak I just I just 195 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,799 want to pump the Jets a little bit still February. We can definitely be 196 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:28,960 excited, but teams are going to be able to hang with them at times, 197 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,120 Like look at what Phoenix has been doing lately. They're starting to click 198 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:35,519 in with their big three. That changes things. I don't think the Denver 199 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Nuggets have played their basketball best basketball so far this season, So other teams 200 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,519 I think can make some of the same arguments that the Clippers are now. 201 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,960 Do they look like the best team in the NBA right now? Of course 202 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,320 they do. Do they have a gear they can reach that nobody else can 203 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,000 meet them at? Maybe I think that's a possibility. I think it. 204 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,559 There's definitely for that where if they're at their A plus game and some other 205 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,399 team is at their top highest performance level, that the Clippers still are just 206 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,399 more talented and better, and you can't hang with them because of how much 207 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,120 potential they have offensively and how much how potent they are. It's very real. 208 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,879 It's very real. I'm excited. I was trying not to get super 209 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:24,440 this Grammy trip changed my mindset. I think that's like Will say, right 210 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,200 like six and one on this and it's like damn okay, Like this is 211 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,080 all real to the nth degree, Like we just keep being proven that they're 212 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,399 caring about it. What happens if they come home and the Pelicans are waiting 213 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,240 and pissed off because they got blown out on their home court by the Clippers 214 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,879 and they run them and win by twenty would that change your mindset at all? 215 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,919 Or would you still be like, hey, six to one on the 216 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,960 road trip though, if the process is good in that game, it does 217 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,960 not really change my mind. But if they're exhausted, which we're going to 218 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,559 talk about, they might just I think if they got blown out by like 219 00:14:56,559 --> 00:15:00,360 twenty plus points, that starts to become a full on like indictment on the 220 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,679 defense. And where it's been it hasn't been like you know, like it 221 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,679 hasn't it hasn't been great, But I think if you're getting beat by twenty 222 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,039 by the Pelicans, who you know, solid team, but if you're giving 223 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,720 up that much to the Pelicans, I've got concerns. I've got concerns at 224 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,759 that point unless it's one of those losses where you just can't make a bucket 225 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:26,000 to save your life, and like it's not sure, it's not for it's 226 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:31,600 it's not them, like losing one or something. It's a lower scoring affair 227 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:37,039 like their last win. Are we not as concerned about the defense because we 228 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:41,519 saw when they circled a game against Boston what they could do defensively and just 229 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:45,399 how good they could be. Is that kind of what we're holding on to 230 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:48,679 a lot? And the Zoo thing right for me, it's just the Zoo 231 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,240 thing. Zoo's out, he's he. When he comes back, we're really 232 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:54,320 going to see that it might not be where we want it to be for 233 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:56,919 you know, like you know, believing in the finals after March and stuff 234 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:02,600 like that. When Zoo comes back, but it's gonna look a lot better 235 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,759 and it's not a shot at makeson Bunny. Him and Daniel Tye were phenomenal 236 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,200 uh in their roles, especially over this road trip. They don't go six 237 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,519 someone without some of the just you know, little things that those two guys 238 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:17,039 did. But the team's different with Zoo's on the floor defensively, so that 239 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,000 for me, that's kind of where it might be a bit of a security 240 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:22,519 blanket. But that's kind of where I'm at because you still does have to 241 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:26,519 get ramped up a bit. That's fair. You Also you also get glimpses, 242 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,039 I feel like every single game, and like, well, highlights don't 243 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,399 tell the whole story, obviously, because it's a you know, it's an 244 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,200 individual thing. It comes down to team defense. Like when your top three 245 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,320 guys are are expand expand expelling the effort that they are currently on the defensive 246 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:47,000 end, I feel like that in that situation, I'm giving them the benefit 247 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:52,679 of the doubt despite even like this this Hawks, this Hawks catastrophe. It's 248 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:56,720 a weird game playing the Hawks, like you shouldn't count for your defensive or 249 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,759 offensive stats. Hey, the Hawks coming into that game their last four games, 250 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,319 they were the second best offense. They really were playing great and feeling 251 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:08,000 good about themselves. They hit twenty threes, the Clippers hit twenty one. 252 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:12,079 The Clippers really took their best shot offensively, and to your point, you're 253 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,480 right when you think about it, not having a beat to a Zoo boss 254 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,799 for the last dozen games or so now and they're still finding ways to win. 255 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,200 Okay, we got to lean into offense more. We have to be 256 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:26,079 even better in this area to make up for the loss of Big Zoo, 257 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,920 who I do think is the fourth most important player on this team when it 258 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,359 comes to most matchups in the seven game series because what he brings defensively and 259 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,079 how he just changes the landscape in that end. Kind Of going to the 260 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,920 other side of it, what did we think of the small ball lineup during 261 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,440 the Clippers road trip as a whole? Obviously against Atlanta that worked very well. 262 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:52,599 Do we think we're gonna see that in the playoffs or is that just 263 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,920 we're down Zoo thing. It was four hot basically four Hoffer lineup, and 264 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,559 then like a mere Terrence or norm they I ended up being a plus four 265 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:06,599 in their time. It looked better than that yesterday when they were getting stops. 266 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,279 Russ has a block, a mirror gets a layup. On the other 267 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,480 end, Russ had that really nice feed to Kawhi for that reverse layup and 268 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:18,920 that ato that our friend Justin Wilson outlined on Twitter. I did see this 269 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:26,079 earlier today from Joey Lynn as people were adding me to say, hey, 270 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:29,759 Adam, you need to own this. He said. In their last ten 271 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:34,039 games together Kawhi PG, James Harden and Russell Westbrook, they have a plus 272 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,920 thirty seven point eight net rating and the Clippers are shooting sixty five percent from 273 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,079 the field and sixty five percent almost from deep in those minutes. I asked 274 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:45,839 someone how many minutes it was and they said fifty eight. I haven't confirmed 275 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:52,119 that, but there there's definitely been progress. We've seen that for over the 276 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,519 last couple of months since they went away from that in the starting lineup. 277 00:18:55,759 --> 00:19:00,400 But I think part of the reason that it was successful recently is because they've 278 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,799 leaned more small ball, as you mentioned there, Chuck, and if you 279 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,000 have those four next to a mirror or next to Norman Powell, it works 280 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:11,599 better because it's not two non shooters on the court with Russ next to a 281 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Beatsa Zubots or Mason Plumley. And I know he's been in there to a 282 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:18,119 little bit, but I think it's because they're just spreading you out, playing 283 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,079 extra small. We saw them almost come back against Minnesota doing that, so 284 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,640 it is there's something to it for sure. Will you go on board with 285 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,119 more small ball experiments or do you think it was just I mean matchup base. 286 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,839 I agree with Adam's point, like, really, you just have to 287 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,920 have the most shooting on the floor. That's like the entirety of why the 288 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,519 small ball concept was even invented, and so it definitely depends on the It 289 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:45,759 definitely depends on the guards in the guards that are in that rotation and the 290 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:51,440 shooters, and obviously matchup driven, although working against the Timberwolves I feel like 291 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,599 is a pretty good sign of some at least some versatility to it. But 292 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:04,960 it's just interesting because I feel like now the team is very guard defined, 293 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,759 right, Obviously, your your two best players are wings, but the rest 294 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:15,720 of the roster I feel like, is pretty guard heavy. And the previous 295 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:19,119 iteration of this team, which is very wing heavy, Ty didn't seem to 296 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:26,519 have a lot of interest in going small. So I'm just curious. I'm 297 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:32,440 curious why the shift. I would say this, No, I would say 298 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,279 this though the type of guards they have are more capable of guarding up. 299 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:41,039 Russ can guard up, Terrence Man can guard up. Reggie Jackson couldn't really 300 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:44,359 do that. Luke Canard couldn't really do that. Obviously, John Wall couldn't 301 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,599 really do that. So they do have a little bit more versatility with some 302 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,559 of these guys that even though they're slaughtered in his guards, Like Russ has 303 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:55,759 been playing the five in some of these small ball lineups and it's been working 304 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:59,880 against certain I'd also say, like a huge change. And what I would 305 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,200 imagine why Tie feels a little bit more comfortable with these lineups is we now 306 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:10,000 have like the best facilitator point guard that we've ever had. Right, So 307 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,240 even those guys like I mean, god, I love Nick patomb I love 308 00:21:12,279 --> 00:21:17,200 his passing, but like those those wing lineups, they never had the guy 309 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,039 that was like that guy offensively who could who could you could run the offense 310 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:25,160 through. So I think that that I think that that showed it's I mean, 311 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,599 it showed its limitations, I feel at points in the previous iteration. 312 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,079 So I think having a playmaker who is like a true blue playmaker, you 313 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,720 know, can be the fulk rum of your offense. I think that that 314 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,240 changes, or I would assume that that changes sort of the machinations on that 315 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:48,440 for Taylu And you mentioned Russ as the center, Adam that with James Harden 316 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,200 out there, we've seen that back cut alley oop how many times because they're 317 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,319 stagging off Russ and he's able to get bored. So when we when we 318 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,000 get good decision Russ. He is a phenomenal small balls center or I don't 319 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,400 know if center is the right one. People have been using Lynchpin a butt, 320 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,559 but like just someone to kind of like cause chaos in the middle, 321 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,160 a lat terrence sometimes in other lineups, even on that play, the most 322 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:17,559 recent one, I think it's mostly been where they feign the pick and roll 323 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,519 with James Harden and Daniel Tice, so they step up to guard Tye thinking 324 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,880 he's getting the ball, and then Russ comes running in from the far side 325 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,920 corner catching the lob. So I don't know how many of those have happened 326 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,559 with the small ball without even Daniel Tyson the floor, who has been good 327 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,559 for this team. But you know, another part of it and why it's 328 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:44,599 been more successful is just Kawhi defensively is better than ever with his back line 329 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:51,440 defense and he's guarding Bigs two and holding his own against Jokic Anthony Davis at 330 00:22:51,599 --> 00:22:56,400 times, like we've seen it over and over again, he's bigger and stronger 331 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:02,160 than ever. Like that is the truth. Wwhi Leonard. You know earlier 332 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,880 today I saw or who had this. I think it was Windhorse, Wendy. 333 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:14,160 Somebody brought up the fact that, oh it was JJ Reddick, who 334 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:19,799 wasn't given him the credit for being in his top four the MVP conversation recently. 335 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,200 But he did bring up this point that Kawhi Leonard, this is the 336 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,039 best version of him since twenty seventeen. Now, I wouldn't go there because 337 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:32,279 I think in the twenty twenty one playoffs, like Kawhi Leonard, I would 338 00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:34,119 take it from there. It's the best since the twenty twenty one playoffs because 339 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,400 he was insane before the ACL injury that first round series, only him and 340 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,079 Shack shooting over sixty percent getting that many points. And Kawhi is doing it 341 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,240 from fourteen feet out. Shack was doing it in the two thousand finals from 342 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:53,079 four feet out. But movement wise, and you know his athleticism that's still 343 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,480 there, because it sounds like he's just pain free. Now. That was 344 00:23:56,519 --> 00:24:00,920 something that came out in an old article recently where he had been playing through 345 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,640 pain a lot at times, and now he just feels more like himself. 346 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:10,319 There is something to that, but that he's much bigger is my point than 347 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,680 the twenty seventeen version of Kawhi Leonard with the San Antonio Spurs. He has 348 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,720 just gotten a little bit bigger, a little bit stronger every year. Did 349 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,920 you guys see the uh on the Clippers official account with him giving his jersey 350 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:29,480 the two chains postgame? Huh, Kawhi look like bleeping Carl Weathers God rest 351 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:33,759 his soul. Yp Yeah. He I actually feel like he's like Apollo. 352 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:36,839 I think he's leaner than when I think he's leaner than when he came in 353 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,000 last season, because I laughed that was sure, and he and he talked 354 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,359 about it too, how he got he got too big and maybe it was 355 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,960 to overcompensate to deal with some of that pain, you know, hoping that 356 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,200 a little bit more structural integrity would relieve that. But I mean he admitted, 357 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,880 like he admitted to it, it was the wrong move and right now 358 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,839 I agree. I mean, he definitely does look stronger. He also looks 359 00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:02,000 so lean, like no, yeah, he's so shredded, like he's cut, 360 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:04,279 like he already has any body fat, You have a freaking apack. 361 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,839 He looked like Apollo when he gave his jersey to two shaves. I couldn't 362 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:11,559 believe what I was Adam, and I do another hour on this. Yeah, 363 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:17,640 let's talk. Let's yeh, just the men's fitness magazine get him on 364 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,240 there. That would be that would be such, that would be really funny. 365 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,680 All right, before we get to this Clippers Pelicans preview, Adam, 366 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,039 you talked about a little bit up top. The Clippers are half game out 367 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,880 of first place in the West. The top four are separated by a half 368 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,759 game, which this this top four battle to end the season is going to 369 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:38,039 be one for the ages. For it's set though, right, I mean 370 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:42,599 like I don't really see our top four changing. I don't mean the position 371 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,599 with the job with the team's top four for sure, because I think the 372 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,759 four, yeah, four are probably your top four, right, and there's 373 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,119 I think number five is like five and a half games out or five games 374 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,519 out. Yeah, it would be tough. They're really close. The King's 375 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,359 currently the Suns are in six. Yeah, the Kings are five and a 376 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960 half games back. It's really close. But I think you're right. I 377 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:11,000 think this is kind of the top four and list somebody goes on a massive 378 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:15,480 slide. I suppose right. But so if you look at tankathon, we 379 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,920 are you about to pick a team. It could happen. There's still enough 380 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,839 time left. We're talking thirty plus games left in the season. If somebody 381 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:26,000 gets banged up, maybe someone else has a march where they're playing eighteen games. 382 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:32,000 I'm not sure about that, but probe if they are hapvy on the 383 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:36,880 pod, I'll sympathize with you if you look at the strength of schedule, 384 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:41,640 which this does only take an account kind of winning the team's winning percentage. 385 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,359 It doesn't take an account things like schedule or spaced out of games and how 386 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,640 things like that. For the top four, the Clippers have the hardest. 387 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,279 They're eighth, and then the Timberwls, Nuggets, and Thunder are at sixteen, 388 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,359 seventeen, and nineteen. So they're all playing seemingly based on winning percentage 389 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:04,359 below average teams. Was from Tankathon, and the Clippers are eighth. I'm 390 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,880 and the Suns have the toughest schedule left, so oh there we go that 391 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,839 hurts them. Sacramento has the fifth toughest, So I think Will's right, 392 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,160 it is pretty secure with these top four baring of major injury, probably, 393 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:23,759 but that I feel a lot better about the rest of the schedule after seeing 394 00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:26,160 how committed this team is to the regular season, you know what I mean, 395 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,119 Like, when we first see the schedule, you don't really know. 396 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,799 We have the old idea of what the Clippers kind of were and how they 397 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:34,759 approached the regular season, and now we have this brand new version where I'm 398 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:38,559 like, I'm a lot less worried. I'm still not you know, still 399 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,480 think about March every other hour as opposed to maybe every hour, but it's 400 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,279 I have a little more belief now after the play that they've shown. Yeah, 401 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,920 you kind of know what to expect with this team. Even within a 402 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,079 game. If they start slow like they did multiple times on this road trip, 403 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,599 they were able to dig out of those holes. I think aginst Detroit 404 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:03,960 against Miami and both of those games, and you just expect them to make 405 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,440 winning plays down the stretch. They look like a team that has forgotten how 406 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,759 to lose, when at times in this era they forgot how to win Layton 407 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:18,119 ball games. I mean, nobody's had a better clutch time rating since them. 408 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,079 Since November seventeenth, when you look at net rating and clutch time, 409 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:26,119 they've been awesome and they just continue to come through. Coach louis pushing all 410 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,599 the right buttons. I think most Clippers fans right now, you've never felt 411 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,119 more confident as a Clipper fan than you do right now with this team. 412 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,039 Yeah, well, how you feeling. You're saying they're going to finish okay 413 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:42,960 with the schedule, Well, it's gonna change, like I mean, their 414 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,920 strength of schedule though, I would guess they'd be in the bottom in the 415 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,079 bottom ten, probably bottom five after the month of March. Yeah, that's 416 00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,240 I feel like it's kind of where you want to be, right you get 417 00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:02,519 those sort of well, they'll be like seven games left that point. It 418 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,640 could still be easy. Yeah, and there'll be a tight gave. Those 419 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,599 will be the standings will be crazy, all right. Coming up, we're 420 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,839 gonna talk Clippers Respelicans. That is happening Wednesday night at cryptocom Arena. But 421 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,079 first, if you're listening to this podcast, the ads have allowed for some 422 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,000 people. If you're watching, you probably got like a pontiac at or something 423 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920 before the show started. I don't know. So for next year, wait 424 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:29,000 for the new year, guys. Yeah, of course, don't buy a 425 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,519 car. You got about three hundred and thirty some days before you should buy 426 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:36,720 a car. We're talking Clippers, Pels. The ads have been allowed for 427 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:37,480 some people. If that's been the case for you, go ahead and turn 428 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:42,200 it down. We got ads coming up in three two one. Hey, 429 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:48,079 what's going on? Welcome back into Clips and Dip. We just wrapped up 430 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:52,160 on the Grammy road trip, looking ahead to the Clippers back at home taking 431 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,720 on the Pelicans. This is gonna be an interesting one. Pels are coming 432 00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:00,759 off of a steam rolling when over the Raptors. I think Brandon Ingram had 433 00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:07,000 forty points. Pretty crazy, pretty crazy. They're playing pretty good. They've 434 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,200 won three of their last four, which is not I know, but it's 435 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,559 been it's been the Spur, it's been it's been like this. It's been 436 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,400 the Rockets, the Spurs, Uh and the Raptors. They lost to Boston, 437 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,880 the Bucks and the Thunder before that, so they went through it. 438 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:26,920 Yeah, and the Clippers have clean injury report. Zoo's not on the injury 439 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,079 report. Pg's not on the injury report just Musa, which is unfortunate. 440 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,160 We haven't really talked about that, but it sucks that he broke his hand 441 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,400 like it did. Yeah, that's definitely one of the bigger talking points that 442 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,680 we've glazed over this that segment coming up. Yeah, well, but's what's 443 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,279 we're leaving that for March. We're gonna have very much another segments Bot and 444 00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:52,519 then maybe we can follow the Hot Bob commercial. Yeah, Adam talked about 445 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:57,240 that blowout when we had against about a month ago. Ingram shot horribly in 446 00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:03,200 that game. CJ was bad, Train Murphy was bad intensively, the Clippers 447 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,119 were good. Yeah, Zoo's back. Are we gonna see like Kawhy is 448 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,359 we getting double? I imagine we throw Ingram those kind of goofy little double 449 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,480 teams that we were shuffling that last game. That was kind of a weird 450 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,039 one too, because that was Kawhi had an off game. Paul George had 451 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:23,160 twenty plus points and that was like, that was a rough Kawhi one, 452 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,480 which we are not accustomed to scene really at all. Guy was under fifty 453 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,559 percent, He was just seven to fifteen. How dare he? What is 454 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:37,519 he doing out there? Does he show up, but that was that game 455 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:38,960 too. We got a lot out of the role players, like Terrence was 456 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,559 great, Norm was great, Mason just had garbage time. We won boards, 457 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,720 which was really surprising in that one. But one thing I noticed when 458 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,720 I was looking back, and that we lost the possession battle by ten field 459 00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:53,799 goal at times. But that also could have been just because they were missing 460 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:56,319 so much. I don't know. That was something that was kind of if 461 00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:00,119 the shooting splits would have been a little more in favor of the Pelicans. 462 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,440 That is something that I'll be watching for in this game, is how the 463 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,079 Clippers take care of the ball and take advantge of their opportunities. Yeah, 464 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:12,200 they did have four more offensive rebounds and five less turnovers in the game. 465 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,119 And Zion left early, right, didn't he get hits? Right? He 466 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:22,640 took a weird knock early maybe third quarter, But at that time, because 467 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,920 of how dominant they were in that game on the road, and I don't 468 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,680 think anybody expected it because the Pelicans had owned them and stuff. That was 469 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,400 the new Oh, this is the best victory of the season. It was 470 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,599 really impressive the way the Clippers dismantled them. It was that second quarter where 471 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:42,680 they went on. They won thirty to fifteen. They doubled them up in 472 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,160 that second quarter, and really it was over going into the fourth. The 473 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:52,039 score looks a lot closer than it actually was. One eleven to ninety five 474 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:55,240 Clippers was the final. I don't think the Pelicans. There was like eight 475 00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:59,680 minutes of garbage time in that one, and we're a bad garbage time team. 476 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,839 Is really bad for the net rating, for the Clippers for the garbage 477 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,400 time. They're just trying to live up to the name of garbage time. 478 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,880 That's what that's what's about, right. It happens everybody, but they tend 479 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400 to be in these situations where, you know, when you're up by twenty 480 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,640 five, and I think Kawhi is not played in like four or ten fourth 481 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,920 quarters so far this season where the other team still have some of the players 482 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,880 in and the Clippers are throwing out you know, guys who hardly get a 483 00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:35,680 run. Did Moon play in that game? I don't think. I don't 484 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,400 think Xavier Moon got any time in that one. Bones did. Yeah, 485 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,319 Bones, We're gonna talk about the Bones Highland Trade stuff that came out today, 486 00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:47,200 which I was kind of surprised by just the terms of it. Yeah, 487 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,440 this was I remember we talked about that article by Jackson Frank about the 488 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,279 Clippers pick and roll, and he used this game as an example of how 489 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:59,519 good it was because the Pels through everybody at trying to figure it out and 490 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:00,880 they couldn't sag Off, Paul George. They couldn't, you know. And 491 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,960 like Zubot's back is back again for this one. So Harden is going to 492 00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:09,239 be, you know, really in control of this game, and it's gonna 493 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,360 I hope he's you know, good at dictating early as he has been, 494 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,159 so I don't know why he wouldn't be. But they're still a good defensive 495 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:19,960 team. I hope he's getting some cryo therapy after playing eighty minutes the last 496 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,719 couple of games. Yeah, it's so many, it's crazy. Yeah, 497 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,000 I don't know. And the double teaming of Ingram will be interesting to watch. 498 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,360 What did we think? I noticed this too, some people are cheating 499 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,880 about this on the road trip. A lot of zone being thrown at the 500 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,800 Clippers over the last handful of games. It felt like that we saw more 501 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,280 zone against the Clippers kind of in these hands, like recently than before. 502 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,599 And I'm wondering if the Pells will try and do anything like that because it 503 00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:52,000 does kind of mess with the rhythm early at least, well, the intention 504 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,159 is to keep Kawhi off of his spots really, like just eliminate some of 505 00:34:55,199 --> 00:35:00,679 those like you know, fourteen footers like this stuff, you know, avoid 506 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:04,679 them from getting to the rim, and keep the guys out of the spots 507 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,639 where they like to be productive. It makes sense. Oh absolutely, I 508 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:12,039 just feel like seeing it so much more. It's like, oh, this 509 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,280 is how teams are trying to stop the best offense in the NBA right now. 510 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,880 I think it's at their own peril, or it eventually will be. 511 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,000 Because you look at the first quarter against Miami and the Clippers were one for 512 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:25,760 eight from the outside. They just couldn't hit shots. You want to bust 513 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,280 the zone. Well, they have the best three point shooting team in the 514 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719 league. The last three quarters of that game they win fifteen to thirty one. 515 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,679 So eventually, yeah, if you leave them open, you are going 516 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,519 to pay for it. But I think it's good for them to get through, 517 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,800 like throw every defense you can at them during the regular season and build 518 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,559 up those reps so the Clippers figure out exactly how to play against anything in 519 00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,639 the playoffs, because you do see weird stuff like that in the playoffs, 520 00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:57,400 like you're we're going to see some really wonky zones against And it's like it's 521 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,360 the same thing with doubling Kawhi. Like with the level of talent that's on 522 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,039 the floor for the Clippers, there's no way you should feel comfortable throwing a 523 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,000 double ever, like and if you do, like you should get punished on 524 00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:13,039 that every single time. There's just too much talent. There's just too much 525 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:16,719 talent to throw a double at somebody. I'm trying to look up how many 526 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,360 assists Kawhi had in that game, because I can't remember if they were doubling 527 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,920 him. A bunch in that one quietly had two assists. So I bet 528 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,360 if they throw the doubles at him this time, he's gonna be in the 529 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,039 you know, not incredibly much higher, but like the five or six range. 530 00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:36,599 With how the team shooting. I'm surprised at just how good the Pelicans 531 00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:39,320 really are this season. They've kind of flown under the radar a little bit, 532 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,960 and maybe this recent because they had a nice run before going five and 533 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,239 five their last ten games and losing to the Upper echelon teams, but they 534 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,440 have the six best. They have a top ten net rating. They were 535 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,760 great last year for the zion injury. Yeah, I mean when they're healthy. 536 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,639 They've kind of had some of the same issues as the Clips the past 537 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:02,880 couple of seasons, but their fifth and net rating on the season, So 538 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,159 this is a very dangerous squad. Yeah. No one scored over twenty points 539 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:12,800 for the Pels last time, which I would bet maybe changes, Yeah, 540 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,639 was the highest scorer. Yeah, that's that's crazy. They'd wrecked them just 541 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239 doubling brandon Ingram, like make him a passer? Can he do that? 542 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,800 Is he there with his game yet? And that was something I think a 543 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,239 lot of people wanted to see from them because he always seemed to light them 544 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,440 up in first quarters. Especially Coach Lou talked about that coming into the ball 545 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,239 game, and they executed that game plan to perfection. I'm I don't know. 546 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,039 I mean, obviously, you know, Clippers go as far as Paul 547 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,440 George and Kawhi and James Harden are going to take them. But in this 548 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:49,440 game, we'll be interesting to see how Zoo's looking movement wise, health wise, 549 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,599 everything like that, because even healthy last time, Valentin has kind of 550 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,360 did his thing a little bit on the boards. I think he grabbed eleven 551 00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,480 or something like that. So that's such an interesting cover for Zoo too, 552 00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:06,239 Like Alan knows, I mean, he's hit how many threes against the Clippers, 553 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,840 Like it's it's it's interesting the way that he can stretch the floor and 554 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,119 is still like very physical despite taking some knocks and being a little bit older. 555 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,119 That's it's an interesting cover for Zoo. I think they both show up 556 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:17,880 for it too, you know what I mean. It feels like they both 557 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,639 get oh yeah, definitely. And it sounded like postgame after the Miami Heat 558 00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:29,280 game, he only played eighteen minutes and coach Lou said it or he said 559 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,519 it that the game just felt too fast. It still was moving too fast, 560 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:36,400 which is amazing to me because I know he had missed a couple of 561 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,400 weeks, two and a half weeks or whatever it was. But like sometimes, 562 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,519 you know, it's the old cliche we think of them as robots or 563 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:45,800 these guys are professionals. It's like, no, that timing those reps, 564 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,039 the rhythm, all that matters, because a guy who hardly misses any time 565 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:54,159 ever, in just two and a half weeks could completely felt like the game 566 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,400 was moving too fast form or feel like the game was moving too fast form. 567 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,639 This Pelicans team, by the way, they're the second best team. 568 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,480 I don't know if it's shooting very in so, I mean we're pretty far 569 00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:07,400 into the season, but when it comes to three point shooting, they only 570 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,239 teams rolling shooting just over thirty four percent against them from the outside. That 571 00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:15,920 is their defense. Yeah, that's a good call. That shout out norm. 572 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,320 We're gonna have Norman. Yeah, they shot. We shot forty two 573 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,679 percent basically against them last time. So we've wrecked that season average for the 574 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,880 Pals, and we're gonna need that again. Right, We're gonna need a 575 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,199 similar the blueprints there for the Clippers to beat them, right, Like you 576 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:35,360 said, it's doubling Ingram and it's shooting around thirty eight from three. I 577 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,840 think my favorite just like that, like that, that's right there, I 578 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:46,199 run the shoot. I mean most times down I'm that. Yeah. I 579 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,000 think the favorite thing to me on this road trip that I've picked up on 580 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,599 though, was this Clippers team. You know, we talk about all the 581 00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:58,039 different ways they can beat you, but they really showed what they can do 582 00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,239 with points in the paint. It started with the Lake game right before they 583 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,840 left, but I think over the next three games they were averaging something like 584 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,000 seventy points in the paint. So they brought it with them on the road. 585 00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:13,199 And that's just a different wrinkle from this Clippers team that you know that 586 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,159 was an area of concern really in the two one three era. They don't 587 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:19,880 get enough easy buckets, they don't get into the paint quite enough. And 588 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,119 then on the road trip you started to see, oh, they didn't shoot 589 00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,320 well from three throughout a lot of the road trip, and it didn't matter 590 00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:30,719 at all. Yeah, this is I wish they weren't playing them coming back 591 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,800 from this road trip, but it is a nice test of what the team's 592 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,559 going to look like after a seven game road trip and a really good opponent. 593 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,840 Did you hear coach lou post game? He was like, that's not 594 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,760 right that we have to play a day after and come back on this road 595 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,920 trip and we get one day off. Has he seen March's schedule? He's 596 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,639 trying to live in the moment, Like why he can't he can't do that 597 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,559 right now? Yeah, one of the tail all, but he'd hit you 598 00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:59,679 with the I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. If road's March, 599 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,159 I'm not going anywhere. Who is your player of the game pick for 600 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,840 this one? Can we uh question for player of the game? Should we 601 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,840 not say Kawhi because we know that he's going to be dominant or is he 602 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,480 still an available player of the game pick for us? Do you want him 603 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:23,920 to play? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Where are you a member 604 00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:30,519 of the play party? But I mean, if you want to pick Kawi, 605 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:37,639 go for it. It's just a very You're just a casual with casual. 606 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,360 You're a casual of Kai is not m v P. You're a casual. 607 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,760 If you pick Player of the Game, there's no winning, there's no 608 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,079 I really feel like putting that pressure on the media where if you don't have 609 00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:51,360 Kawhi and the upper rational and of m VP candidates, then your casual. 610 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,000 I really think that came into a fact over the last week. I think 611 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,440 it's been it's been huge. Nach Loves heard that. He was like, 612 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,039 Oh, okay, I gotta talk abou Kawhi. Leonary, Yeah, Will, 613 00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:04,639 who's your pick for Player of the Game, who may or may not 614 00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:09,320 include Kawhi? Leonard I'm gonna go Norm. Yeah, Norm is coming off 615 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,400 of a great addition to the road trip. I think he's going to be 616 00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:19,320 in tempo. And yeah, we talked about offensively. If they can mitigate 617 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,880 one of the things the Pelicans do really great on the defensive end, I 618 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,800 think that that makes a win all the easier. I hope that we get 619 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,320 some garbage time in this one like we did last time we played the Pels 620 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,960 in Smoothie Can Arena, which is my favorite arena name. I like what 621 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,760 you said about tempo because it sucks they have to play the next day, 622 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,960 but the tempo is going to be there for the shooters, right like, 623 00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:44,239 It's not like that thing or maybe some rest after a couple of days rest. 624 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,639 But yeah, Adam, who's your pick for player of the game. 625 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,159 I'm gonna go with Russ I thought maybe misremembering, but I thought he was 626 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:57,760 really good in that second quarter in New Orleans when they pulled away, And 627 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,039 that was part of the reason why because the pace he is playing at. 628 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:06,880 But when you talk about guys having low energy or just not being reacclimated being 629 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,719 back home yet and they only have one day off, you might need Russell 630 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,440 Westbrook and what he brings to the table in a game like this. That's 631 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,719 a yeah. I like that's a good call. Yeah, I wonderful go 632 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,440 small against him, because that would be if Russ is playing well, he 633 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,400 would be a nightmare against at Pell's team as a center. Right there. 634 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,719 I am gonna go with Kawhi Leonard. I think he's gonna play great in 635 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:37,880 this game. Now. I think Paul George and even on more niche pick, 636 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,159 I think Paul George is gonna have a bounce back shooting. I think 637 00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:44,079 we're gonna see over twenty points Paul George. He's not gonna spill anyone's drink 638 00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:47,440 with a pass or anything like that. We're gonna see. Yeah, we're 639 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,880 gonna see twenty point Paul George. It's gonna be great. That's a good 640 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,960 call. I like that. Hell yes, I did it. Well. 641 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,320 It was either that or Kawhi. So I was between the row. Some 642 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,599 people are casuals at him. You know, it's not your fault. Okay, 643 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,519 if it wasn't for casuals, then I wouldn't look so smart. Right. 644 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,239 Oh wow, well said speaking of casuals, there was really I don't 645 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,960 usually uh read the live comments, but someone referred to us as bandwagon fans, 646 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,960 which I thought was the funniest thing in the world on the youtubeer on 647 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,880 on the YouTube. I thought it was really funny. I was like, 648 00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,280 yeah, you know, do you guys? Do you guys call it YouTube? 649 00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:32,840 Yeah? I call it the YouTube? What else is it? Mario 650 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:40,559 YouTube? Yeah? The YouTube? All right, come you watch it Mario 651 00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:45,760 on the YouTube. Yeah. So I'm saying to my nephews when I go 652 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,719 visit, Uh, you remember back when we didn't cover this team until they 653 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,800 went on this run where they've won thirty one thirty nine, bro fair Weather 654 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,280 fans. Yeah, we brought the biggest Clippers heater in the world on the 655 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,960 pod. That for fairly there. All right, coming up, we're talking 656 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,400 the Clippers trade rumors, and then a friendly reminder to get your bets in 657 00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:12,440 order, and then a friendly PSA. But for those of you who have 658 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,159 been listening to this on the audio, we appreciate you. The ads have 659 00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:21,440 been loud. Ads are coming up in three two one Welcome back in It's 660 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,199 clips and Dip episode forty nine of season two. I'm at a Maslem. 661 00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:29,079 We got Chuck Mockler and Will Updyke. If you missed it, we did 662 00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:36,199 a little C and D clips and CNDD double dip last night on Clippers Talk. 663 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,800 Chuck came on the show. It was a great time after the Clippers 664 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,639 went six and one on the road trip. But now after previewing the Pelicans 665 00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:50,199 game, we got to talk about some random stuff, some rando because I 666 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,719 don't know, there's this thing called the trade deadline coming up on Thursday, 667 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,840 kind of a big deal. But I didn't see this. Did this come 668 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000 out earlier today from Ome? In this quote from PJ Tucker? Chuck, 669 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,599 give us some context of this. When was it said? I thought, 670 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,800 I'm not feeling I'm on trial tonight. Uh, this was this was a 671 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,679 couple of days ago. It was a report that PJ. Tucker is actively 672 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,119 looking to get traded. Om was on a podcast and he said, I'm 673 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:22,599 not saying they're going to make a massive move, but they did just get 674 00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,599 a beat to the Zoo, bats against back against Miami, and so now 675 00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:29,320 they have three bigs, and of course they do have PJ. Tucker, 676 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,920 who wants to be traded, has made no secret about that. He even 677 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,480 told me that just last week in Toronto. I think his words were actively 678 00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:44,599 looking to get traded, like yeah, executives like, guys, please come 679 00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:50,639 on, please, hello, I make this happen. I'm just like, 680 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,199 so he's like, I don't know if he's like he's gonna get money out 681 00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:54,840 of his own pockets of the team and he goes to or something. I 682 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,920 don't think he's like leaking this because I don't know if it's a leak. 683 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,400 If he's directly a reporter you want to be traded. I feel like it's 684 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:10,800 bigger than the leak, But like, what what's the move here? Yeah, 685 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,920 like if the right trade is there and it yeah, I'm sure they'll 686 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:23,679 figure out a way to accommodate PJ. Tucker, who hasn't played since I 687 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,239 don't know, uh November at this point. I don't think he's played in 688 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,280 December. I'm I'm still happy with the fact that even though he has made 689 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,000 these comments of the media here and there, there isn't a disgruntled guy when 690 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,039 you look at him on the bench. There isn't a guy who isn't still 691 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,519 involved cheering guys on and being a good teammate and a good vet out there. 692 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:50,840 I've seen him multiple times when Terrence Man was going through his struggles. 693 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,880 He came to the bench after turning down a couple of three pointers. I 694 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,599 forget what game it was. Coach Lou pulled him. He goes to the 695 00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,320 bench. It was like in the midst of the deepest part of the funk 696 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,800 that he was in, and you could see PJ. Tucker was trying to 697 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,760 console him, put his arm around him, trying to tell him some positive 698 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,920 stuff to keep his confidence up. So I'm appreciative for that. That's fair. 699 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,280 And I still think if he did stay on this team, he has 700 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,039 utility in a playoff series. He doesn't have it in the regular season, 701 00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,440 so I'm not sure how he'd have it when it matters more. He can 702 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,480 guard Yokic guys, he can guard Zion Williamson. Maybe we'll see him tomorrow. 703 00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:35,440 That would be player to player of the game, PJ. Tuck. 704 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,480 You asked me where I would lose faith if they played PJ Tucker tomorrow is 705 00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:42,039 where I lose faith. And when they go on to ten, oh run 706 00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,639 with him, you won't. Well, he's not ning part of any of 707 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,920 the field goal attempts, so maybe that would happen. Bones Also, he 708 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,440 should just wave his he should like opt out of his He shouldn't have opted 709 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,679 out into his second year. That's why he's still on this team. Probably 710 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,760 would be my Yeah, I don't think he's willing to wag the second year? 711 00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:05,000 Yeah, is that something you can do at this point? What did 712 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:06,800 it have to be? Oh? I don't know, Like that's what I'm 713 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,920 saying. It's like a handshake agreement or a verbal that hey, I'm go. 714 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:15,280 I think Yeah, I think it would have to just be an unsaid 715 00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:22,440 instead of an IOUs he is an unspoken message here, it's you. The 716 00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:29,519 more, I guess. Pertinent important news was that Bones's fate. Uh. 717 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,519 It sounds like the Wolves and Hornets would offer two second round picks for Bones, 718 00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:37,920 which I would not want to see him on the Wolves in the playoffs. 719 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:43,440 That was my first thought. Or next year or anything like he's locked 720 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,360 in for like no money the next two years. It's like two point four 721 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,679 this year, like four next year. Two seconds. I guess I don't 722 00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,119 know what the value was, but I hope he goes to a place he 723 00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:58,039 plays that's not the Timberwolves. Yeah, I mean the guy's on the comb, 724 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,400 Yeah, Will I don't think two seconds is enough. I like, 725 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,719 look, I I know that he's not in the rotation right now, and 726 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:13,320 I might be abnormally high on Bones given what we saw at the at the 727 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:22,480 start of the season. Season. The thing like the thing to me, 728 00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:29,920 the Bones are also my dollars, But the thing to me is you need 729 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,840 talent that's that's locked up at a low price range. And do you think 730 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:38,480 with one of those seconds or ideally both of them, you're gonna get you're 731 00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:43,079 getting a better player than Bones, because I think the way this team is 732 00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:46,559 playing right now, look, unless you were like the perse, like the 733 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:52,079 sort of the prototypical six to eight wing that the Clippers are looking for, 734 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,880 I don't see a lot of time for young guys or developmental guys or project 735 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:05,800 guys. So I just I think I'd rather have the asset than two second 736 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,880 round like something like something tangible rather than two seconds. I guess, yeah, 737 00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:14,880 I guess we would refleinish the seconds that we lost, but I don't 738 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,719 know they gave up two seconds for him, right, I agree with you, 739 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,239 like, are you going to find a guy with either of those seconds 740 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,039 that has the upside that Bones has shown in limited time with this team? 741 00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:29,719 But he has shown it again. That Game three where the Clippers got screwed 742 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,360 against the Phoenix Suns, he had a three rim in and out after I 743 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,079 think he had twenty points maybe all in the second half of that game. 744 00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,960 He was electric. And then the start of this season as well mentioned you 745 00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:44,800 look good. He had I think a seventeen point game, an eighteen point 746 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,239 game, and everybody talked about him in training camp and just the difference in 747 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,039 him even coming off last season with the Clippers, and how the progress he 748 00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:58,000 had made. Kawhi Leonard was taking him under his wing. Obviously, I 749 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,119 don't want to see Bones leave, especially if he goes a team like Minnesota. 750 00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:05,599 That would be rough. But in the right move it it may have 751 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,440 to happen. I don't know. It may be the big sweetener. What 752 00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:13,599 about three seconds in a different move for sure, like the second rounders, 753 00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:15,599 that just doesn't really move the needle to me. And we talked about players 754 00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:21,000 being great on the bench despite their playing time. I can't name like Bones 755 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,519 is the is the top of the line for that, and he kind of 756 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,400 man like he thought in trading camp, like he thought coming into the season 757 00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:31,920 he was gonna be the guard, Like maybe the you know, like maybe 758 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,079 the sixth man guard, but like he thought he was gonna be playing a 759 00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:44,079 significant position and it's you know, he's now just like racking up Yeah, 760 00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:47,559 he's just just racking up cnds. So I don't know. Yeah, it's 761 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,760 tough. It feels like, yeah, maybe trade him for a package deal 762 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,920 because everyone was like, oh Bones for second two seconds, that's pretty cheap 763 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:59,079 that the Clippers got him for. Like, I don't I don't understand. 764 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:00,639 Yeah, it would just I would feel bad for Bones. It's weird. 765 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:04,559 I don't want him to go to the Timberwolves because they're in the Western Conference, 766 00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:06,719 and I don't want them to go to the Hornets because they're so bad. 767 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,239 But he would get playing time, you know, Yeah, I think 768 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:19,119 backing up LaMelo. I guess LaMelo's been hurt often. Uh, he will 769 00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:22,400 shine somewhere when he gets playing time. It is going to happen. It 770 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,280 feels like a GIBBT with Bones. I want to see it happen with the 771 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,760 Clippers. But this is the balance you are trying to have when you're a 772 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:37,119 championship contender but also a team that is lacking first round picks moving forward, 773 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,280 where you want to hold on to guys that have youth and potential and are 774 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,440 all cheap contracts. As will was laying out, it's kind of what the 775 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,079 Golden State Warriors, you know, the back end of a dynasty. Things 776 00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:52,000 usually don't end pretty, and they're kind of dealing with that this season and 777 00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,679 now all of a sudden, finally Kaminga is getting some run and showing what 778 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,199 he's been able to do. But it's a horror thing to balance, and 779 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,800 I think that's where the Clippers are at. They're in a tough spot. 780 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,760 Tough spot. I hope Bones goes to the best place possible for him. 781 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,639 Something that we've been talking about on this pod that we're going to talk about 782 00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:16,039 one more time and probably again. Get your MVP bets in for Kawhi do 783 00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:20,639 it. It's not as good of a bet as it was yesterday. They're 784 00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:24,079 going on about that one day. One day went from plus ten thousand to 785 00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:28,800 what plus fifty five hundred. Yes, it is a plus fifty five hundred. 786 00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:34,239 Stats Williams put out this tweet today. In the past thirty games, 787 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,920 Kawhi Leonard has a twenty five and five record while averaging twenty six point four 788 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,719 points per game, fifty seven percent from the field, fifty one percent from 789 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,199 three, and ninety two percent from free throw. He's the first player to 790 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,599 average twenty five points on fifty five to fifty ninety shooting splits over any thirty 791 00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:57,599 game span. Ever, I figured, I mean, the only other guys. 792 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,679 I was thinking, Okay, maybe Steph had done it, maybe KD 793 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,800 had done it, maybe Jokic had done it. But I don't think the 794 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,679 three point shooting. I don't know if he had that long of a stretch 795 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,039 or was ever that high in his MVP seasons. Those are the only guys. 796 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:17,239 It's insane, which is why it is so perplexing and downright frustrating that 797 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,639 he hasn't gotten the love that he has deserved. Because it's not going to 798 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,480 last forever, So how about we celebrate it while it's going on, because 799 00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:29,280 if they're not paying attention to it now, then if he goes on a 800 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,440 cold streak in the next couple of weeks or missing some games in March, 801 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,800 it's totally going to be forgotten. So that's why I felt like there should 802 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,239 be a sense of urgency with talking about Kawhi for MVP and hashtag claw for 803 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,320 MVP, and I'm always adding people and you know what, I'm not going 804 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,800 to say who it was, but somebody was like, could you stop. 805 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,320 One of the reporters that I was adding said could you stop adding me on 806 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,360 these? And it had only been like three so far, but because so 807 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:04,679 many people like them and retweet them all that those notifications pop up for him. 808 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,519 It's like, I mean, I'll stop, but can you talk about 809 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:12,800 Kawhi Leonard being this damn good? I mean, you're doxing people for Kawhi's 810 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,360 MVP, not doxing anything. What are you talking about? I'm acting them 811 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,639 on. I think that's pretty far off from that. Tell us who it 812 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,039 was after this, because I think I have a guess, but I don't 813 00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:30,239 know. I'll tell you afterwards. And then final PSA put Norm in the 814 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,239 three point contest. Yeah, just do it. He wants to do it 815 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,400 and he'd win. I don't know. It's the three point contest more exciting 816 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,840 than the Dunk Contest at this point. Yes, did you see the contestants 817 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,519 for the Dunk contest last couple of years? It definitely has been this year. 818 00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:50,840 Hold on, let me look at it because I think Woe's tweeted it 819 00:56:50,840 --> 00:57:00,760 out. Uh, this year, it's like Obie Toppin's brother as mcclong Jalen 820 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:07,079 Brown. It's Jacob Topping, Mac McClung, Jimi Hawkes, and Jalen Brown. 821 00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:13,880 I didn't I still don't think Hawk has has bounced like that to be 822 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,840 Uh. I saw him at U c l a lot. I'm a little 823 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,679 bit surprised by that selection. I just think they just want to play. 824 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,800 I didn't think they want anyone to do it. Mac McClung will probably win 825 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:30,079 again. Yeah, they're pulling guys out of the G League. Yeah. 826 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:34,440 I wish they just grabbed the best dunkers in the world from Team Flight and 827 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,880 have them put on a show, because it will be more spectacular. You'll 828 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,039 actually see new stuff you've never seen before, at least at that level. 829 00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:45,719 I don't know, and One Mixtape Tour had it right. I think you're 830 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,360 right. Well at three point contest and maybe the skills skills is cool. 831 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,960 Three point is definitely overshadowed ever since the Zach Lavine Aaron Gordon Dunk Contest, 832 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,199 which was amazing. That was the last really great eight dunk contest and the 833 00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:02,679 best of all time. I think so I don't know. Since then, 834 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,400 it's like, how do you top it. There was a time where they 835 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,239 went away from the dunk contest for a couple of years in the late nineties 836 00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:14,360 early two thousands. I think he should do it again and switch it out 837 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,440 for one on one. Guys won't do it. They talked about it. 838 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,400 They had the Game of Horse that one time with Kevin Muran and who else 839 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,679 was out there. They did it outdoors. It was bad. But guys 840 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,400 they won't do it because of endorsements and if they lose. And yeah, 841 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,639 I mean it's the reason I think Lebron James never did the dunk contest. 842 00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:37,239 And yeah, I mean Lebron not doing the dunk contest. It's everything to 843 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,079 lose, not much to gain. Yeah, it's not like the nineties where 844 00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:45,599 it's yeah, like that was a major driver for you. But yeah, 845 00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:52,440 get norm with that three point contest? Is it like a reserve thing, 846 00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:55,239 like somebody drops out and he's in or can they add a guy? Maybe 847 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,800 it's like when you work at a restaurant and if you don't have a clean 848 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,800 enough uniform, I'll just switch someone else out. There's people who will wait, 849 00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:06,639 so maybe pick up a shift. All right. I think we're pretty 850 00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:09,239 much wrapped up on this episode. Adam, Is there gonna be a double 851 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:15,119 dip after the Pels game tomorrow? Yeah? Just not with you guys. 852 00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:17,320 No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Who's coming with me? Baby? 853 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:22,239 Who's coming with me? I believe it's Will's turn? Oh what happens if 854 00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:27,840 they lose? Though? Is Will still coming on? I guess probably not. 855 00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:32,280 Busy signal and then maybe another press box live. I don't know. 856 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,719 That could be fun, depending on something crazy. Oh that was fun. 857 00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:37,360 That was a good time. Are you guys going to be there? Yeah? 858 00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:45,480 Yeah tomorrow? Yeah, oh dope, let's take a picture. Let's 859 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,840 not go to the game, dude, you know you said we were gonna 860 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,159 be friends. And then we're gonna do a tripod for you on Thursday, 861 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,920 And then since there's a brunch paddle on Saturday, we'll be doing a live 862 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,239 YouTube hag afterwards, because what else would you want to watch the day before 863 00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:00,679 the Super Bowl? Then the Clippers play the Diston's at twelve thirty in the 864 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:06,360 afternoon. Really, that's one of those matinee stars that you're okay with? 865 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,920 Yeah, Well, where can these people review and maybe subscribe to us. 866 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,559 You can rate to review this podcast over on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. You 867 01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:22,159 can listen to the show wherever you get your podcasts. We're on Amazon Music, 868 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,079 Google Podcasts, Stitch your deezer. But if you really want to get 869 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:30,440 the full clips and dip experience, you gotta head over to YouTube dot com. 870 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:35,039 Not the YouTube, just YouTube dot com. And that's at Clippers podcast. 871 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,199 And you know you can only leave one writing and review over on over 872 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,559 on Spotify and Apple podcast which you should do. But you could comment on 873 01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:47,840 every single episode over on YouTube if you fell so inclined. Yeah, I 874 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,519 think there's only like eighty nine videos up. It wouldn't take too long. 875 01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:55,800 Adam, so rainy week in LA. People might be feeling a little bit 876 01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,000 down even though the Clippers are playing. So well, what's one positive thing 877 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,199 you want to give to Clippers fans before we send them into this night? 878 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,920 I actually thought the last episode of True Detective was pretty decent after really mediocre 879 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:14,559 season. Oh uh, well there's only two more, so they got really 880 01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:20,239 it's only six Yeah, well it's been rob since season one. Man. 881 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,920 Uh, you know what? I think the Clippers are gonna get some type 882 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:29,679 of heroes. Welcome tomorrow night. Because everyone has bought into how good this 883 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,360 team is. They've missed them. Absence makes the heart girl fonder and it 884 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,760 is going to be loud at Crypto dot Com. And therefore that home court 885 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,599 advantage where they have been really good so far this season at home, it's 886 01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:47,119 gonna come into effect against the Pelicans. They may get ambushed. The Cryptocom 887 01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:51,840 arena is gonna be rocking tomorrow, per Adam Oslin, that's gonna be a 888 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,880 good time. We'll talk to everyone after the double DIMP. We'll see a 889 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,960 couple times later this week, and as always, let's go clips.