Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the House of Dragon Reviews,
Episode six, season two. I am the clown Prince Lettuce Tress.
Now I'm joined by the Dragon writer, Tayfield. Yeah, there's a couple
of Dragon writers in this episode, you know. But ladies and gentlemen,
it's just us to know Kirkland, who knows where he is? He said
in a migraine. I don't know why why'd have that? I don't know
what's something to happened to May. Maybe I'll get some updates on him this
week. I don't burn too many clones. I think that's pressing them out.
You never know, I just hear. You know, it's dangerous place.
You know, your house gut, you know some people were in there.
You know. You never know what can happen here in Cologna. So
we'll have to see what happened to mister pats Or. I don't know.
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break right after and then we'll be good to go. Taylor Field, what
do you feel with this episode? Oh, it was really nice to see
how things are kind of picking up here and getting amped up. I I
did laugh because there were some things, Uh, there were some mistakes here,
and I just feel like at the end of the day, both sides
are just consistently sakes storyline mistakes. I thought you meant like, yeah,
like choices, Starbucks, dragons get introduced to us, but you know,
we have had Starbucks cops and call it game before, right, So I
was like, did you see a bunch of that? Did you see mister
Jack in the box? He was there. But yeah, I think as
much as I am, I'm team Ranier, the Greens High Towers. Like,
I just think it's funny that they're not exclusively the only ones though that
do make mistakes, that Raniera's making mistakes as well. And of course I
don't feel like it's not as big as Severe. Yeah, not as big.
And I like how things kind of turned around here. And there's something
you were I don't know if you called it, but you were alluding to
it episode thing, the thing that happens last ten minutes. Yeah, absolutely,
I said, damn, you can go back, you can roll tape.
That's why I love life as a podcaster. From the first thing time
this thing was introduced, I'm like, this is happening, this is the
way it's going. So now I feel very calmed about the other thing I've
been saying is going to happen. You know, we'll get into spoilers,
but that's a very thing, was interesting development that's gonna happen now. So
but yeah, it's overall, it was a really really good episode. I
had a lot of fun with it, and it was just it was intense
and there's a certain I think for Allison's character. It's just not the most
ideal circumstance. And it's funny how since the finale, Yeah, with how
things have progressed in this episode at Kingslanta, I guess, not a spoiler,
but it's it's it's it's not doing good and yeah, I think as
Prince Regent Amon has uh, he's got his work cut out for him.
But it's it's funny just to see how everything is unfolding. I think key
characters are doing some really key things, and we get to know a little
bit more too about what's going on over in the veil. Yeah, and
yeah, but now this isn't a spoiler, but I thought this was actually
kind of cool. You will remember this because you just did your Game of
Thrones. We watched, but when Rob Stark was alive, he betrays Yeah,
he betrays h walder Fray and Mary's a nurse and walder Fray sends one
of his sons and the son's like, oh, you know, we'll have
to do like apologies. Yeada YadA, but my my lord also wants herron
Hall, and Rob Stark's like, okay, you'll have it. So the
phrase have always wanted heron Hall, and it was mirroring the conversation that the
phrase we're having with I can't remember his name, but Raniers Elda Son,
Yeah, Tart Sarah's Targariam and he's like, oh, we'll give you heron
Hall. So they've always been trying to get Hairn Hall, but they can
never get it. It seems, yeah, I know, it's a I
wonder why. I wonder what glore dates back to. Why is the phrase
always wanted it? You know, because some of those houses always had that,
right, there's just a specific thing they want. Because even then,
because I thought about during this rewatch, it's like getting thrones and it's like,
oh, there always has to be a Stark in the North. It's
like when did that start? You know? That must have been like hundreds
and hundreds of Like I guess I'm just assuming a Stark somehow just like settled
or found the North. But it's just like how did that even start?
Like how did just one name like this this someone in this family has to
be in the Norse. I'm even sure you get to keep the property.
It's like, oh, there always has to be a field in Yeah,
I guess I should, yeah specify it's a Stark and winter Fell because they
don't run the whole north, but still you know what I mean there,
so uh yeah, No. I thought this was a good episode. A
lot of developments. I think it's one of those who knows the curricleing things.
It is like a more quieter one. Again, I feel like as
far as just like it's not there's no big battles, there's not big fights.
There's not any I think big deceptions. But I think it's again lots
of big setups and I think that it's stuff that we will see in these
next two episodes. But I also think it's stuff that's setting up for even
next year already, you know, stuff that's not going to play out.
And h Yeah, the Am and King thing I'm really enjoying because he's one
of my I don't know if I want. I Still it's always back and
forth him and Damon. I love them both, and then we're near those
always the top three. But I think with him it's been such an interesting,
interesting run because he's taking over again to Boyls just being king at an
interesting time. I still think he's a would be a better king than Aggon.
I still think you would make an argument for it in some ways,
but it's almost like they they'd almost I wouldn't say it'd be the perfect king,
but they'd be a better king if they could both almost rule together in
a sense, even though Aggon really has no idea sometimes what was going on
here. So yeah, I felt like we got updates on a lot of
characters and I'm really curious to see what kind of plays out in these next
two episodes and what plays out more so in the long run. There was
a certain actor that was back that I was very happy to see back,
and that's always good. And yeah, I again the show is if it's
in Like I feel like there's probably been no episode that's like lower than eight
at ten. It's always fluctuating between that and back and forth. So yeah,
next week seems like it's gonna be interesting, especially with what the cliffhanger
was. I really want some explanation of how said character could do said thing,
because that is a big moment, especially at the beginning episode of saying
hey, you can only do this if you're a B and C. And
we don't know anything about that with this new character. So yeah, there's
there's lots of stuff going on. And even then it's like, okay,
where do certain allegiance lie of new characters coming in the show writer, characters
that are starting to get more in the war, So I really I don't
know. So it's uh, you know, and I think this show has
been really good at kind of giving us some good subtle comedy or not,
like it's situational comedy. There's just one character in particular that seemed pretty happy
and the happiness went and you know, I gotta chuckle. Unfortunately it was
a terrible thing that happened to him, but I gotta chuckle. So anything
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uh, I don't I want to talk about that dragon Rider because that's what
I want to know. So he is with which I really liked. We
for weeks we've been back and forth with the Sea Snake and you know,
his alleged bastard, he says his bastard, but you know in the show's
alleged but one I like that we got we saw him shaving his head,
like the white hair off his head like, so his whole life, he's
been really high that which is not a bad thing because we've seen before in
Game of Thrones sometimes if you're just a bastard. Even if you have no
interest whatsoever in leading being part of the family, you can be used for
leverage, you can be killed. So I think it's very smart and savvy
that character to be shaving his head when he gets the chance to. And
then his brother so because that's his brother, right, the guy with the
red blocks, that's what he says. Yeah, they call each other brother.
So I don't know if they have well, obviously don't the same somebody.
I'm guessing the same the share the same share the same mother. I'm
yeah, they'd have to, I guess because the other guy. So they
share the same mother. But I don't know if, like it's a situation
did the mud did they claim that this child was also the father, like
you know what I'm saying, like the bastard? Was it like a John
Snow situation where they accepted him into the family but everyone knew his net Stark's
bastard? Or did they just accept this kid in the family of like,
hey, you slept with this lady. It's a bastard child, but we're
just gonna say it's yours that we don't know. I don't know what the
situation is there. You know, well, it seems like Queen ray nice
knew his origin. Yeah, and I'm not sure if the Sea Snake knows
the origin. My prediction right now is that the brother who of the of
the the shaving head dude was he was being a chased by the sea Smoke.
Is that what he is? The dragon Sea Smoke? Yeah, so
the sea Smoke was like going after him, coming at him pretty crazily.
And so I think that this guy's like freaking now. I think they know
they're very ambiguous with this oh Smoke as a rider, and I'm pretty confident
it's going to be, uh, the guy shaving his head. I think
they were alluding to maybe it was the guy who was with the dreadlocks and
hopping on the back, but I think it's going to be the brother that'll
just have appeared there because he I saw an interesting post where they're setting up
the stage for they need more dragon riders. And so you have the guy
who's the targarian drinking in the bar. You got the guy who's the targarian
who's saving his sick daughter, and then you got this guy who's a bastard
and shaving his head. So I think these are all going to be dragon
riders for Rania. Uh So, I don't think it is because I in
the preview, it looks like it is the dreadlock guy in the pre I
didn't watch the preview for it, and he's standing there beside the dragon unless
the bald guy tamed him and brought him a wash my fucking theory. But
even though if it was, well, that's why I want to say that,
because I I couldn't play done. There was one week I did when
Kirkland didn't see the preview if Eggon was alive, and I'm like, well,
technically, I don't know if Eggon's alive. They showed him, they
announced that he was back in kings Lamba, like he could just die right
away, So I'll just say, what if he's dead? And I told
Kirk I'm like, oh, he's probably alive, But this time I gotta
say it because they show it there. But even if it was the bastard,
why would he have been able to ride a dragon? Because they have
the Targarian blood in them, right, That's why they picked this random night
because like, oh, that's what it is. Targarians are dragon riders.
That's how it is. Yeah, but that but he's not a Targarian,
that's my thing. No, he's not. Well, no, the guy
that is it is the Dreadlocks guy. Then that's interesting because then maybe there
is something else. But the other guy shaving his head, he's Targarian.
No, he's not, he's Valerian. No. I'm pretty sure that they've
intermingled their bloodlines though, have they? Why? Because we know Raynisan and
the Sea Snake there's a good example. And then we know that the Sea
Snake's granddaughters and Damon there's that's all after him. Why can't we don't know
before though? Right? And they all came from Valeria, I'm pretty sure.
So then why doesn't the Snee Snake have a dragon? Oh? He
probably just didn't bond with one like his granddaughter Raina because she was Reina.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying it's not confirmed yet if that's there,
because that's to me is because I don't think just straight up Valerians can ride
a dragon. And I don't know if if the Valarians had been with a
Targaran before, uh rainis right, Renie Renie Renie, Yeah, so I
don't know. That's why. I don't know the lore here, so if
they haven't, then I don't know. And then same thing is Dreadlock guy.
Does that mean he has some sort of tie to Targarian blood or is
he just uh a rider? I don't know which I don't think is the
thing, because all the dragon riders we know have some sort of Targarian blood
in them, so that's what's interesting, and that's right. I don't know
what's going to be happening there with that. I think he will go to
our hero's side because they're already there. I think he'll make some demands,
but I think I just don't see. I don't see either character if they
had the dragon that they would go like I feel like they're setting him up
with a sea snak side. And even then it's not so much like they're
really opposed to each other. The one brother is just like, hey,
you should do this, and you know, be his son and you could
get this and this and this, and the guy that is the Bastard's kind
of well, I don't really want any of that, like it's it's all
nice to think about, but he's not concerned about that ever since he saved
him he's been very, very distant from the Seasnake. He'll talk to him,
and it feels like he does want to keep his space, and that's
why I'm interested to get more of that there. So so here's here's the
answer to your question. Yeah, even though their surname is not Targarian,
Valerians can ride dragons because their blood is from old Valeria like Targarians are.
Okay, there the vassals, so they all they came with Targarians from there,
and that's why they can. They intermingle with the Targarians their families.
Okay, then I can accept that that's why they would be so Sea Snake
the tomopile who should ride dragons and get the sea snake up on He wants
his boats. He likes his boats. Yeah, I used too injured to
you. So yeah, I'm not sure if that I would imagine with Georgia
or Martin involved and everything, I guess they're gonna say that maybe he is
tied, that he has some Turgarian blood in him. That guy, then
maybe they dreadlocks guy if he can ride a dragon, which is interesting because
unless he's just a Valerian and that doesn't matter he's also who Bastard, Well
he doesn't have the hair though, you know, he doesn't have the hair
yet unless he dies it. Yeah, neither does Jays, but you know
they don't talk about that. No, they try and it doesn't go.
So yeah, so that'd be interesting. Do you think whoever has dragon which,
like I said, his dreadlocker on the trailer, do you think he'll
be partnering up with Rania? I think so yeah. I mean the the
Valerians and the Sea Snake are already on that side to begin with, So
I think that it's gonna kind of go hand in hand. Plus, like
sea smoke came from Dragonstone, right, so I think that it just makes
it makes sense, it goes hand in hand. And then funny enough in
that I was gonna say, Raina, she's getting on a dress too,
right, Yeah, this unknown dragon that's just like ravaging the veil. I
think that's for sure her calling. She's gonna get on. That's why I
said this dragon, I said this last thing. I'll say again that that's
when you were really wrong, because you're like, oh, we're never gonna
see them, We're not gonna see him a whole season you're rid off Raina
and the kids, and I thought we might visit once, but I don't
think we're gonna get her getting on a dragon or long term. Now.
Yeah, I thought that that was sea smoke that was destroying the sheep in
the veil. That's what I thought too, But I don't. I don't
think it is because she said it. Ever since the war started, there
was a dragon here, right, yeah, and then sea smoke left.
Yeah, So how the fuck did the Targarians just lose a dragon? Right?
I guess it depends how old this is, right, because if there's
a dragon, like, who knows where it was? It could have been
somewhere far away and then it flew over, right, we can talk about
like what's that island? It's like bezos that like where Denaris came from.
Right, Like, dragons don't gotta have boats, right, they can go
anywhere. So who knows what's happening? Hopefully winter's not coming. We don't
know the winter. But yeah, so I guess there's unclean. So this
sea smokes me claimed. And then there's still two dragons right at Raniera's place
that are unclaimed. I think she had I think she said she had four,
including a sea Smoke. Really I didn't. I didn't hear that because
I thought there was the two. That Sea Smoke was one lost a partner.
But I'll say Damon. But okay, even then, so, but
yeah, and that's gonna be interesting if Raina gets a dragon, because then
they got they got chased, they got nier, they drag they got Raina.
And then if Damon does come back, that's five. So we're looking
pretty powerful there if they can pull off versus there. They just have one
now, right with Amond it's the biggest one. But they or no,
I think no, I think Mike told us last week or so. I
think the daughter does have a dragon. I think Helena, Yes she does.
Yeah, that's right, But I don't see her any I don't that
girl Aine is flying into war. I see her flying away. I see
her flying away. She should she yeah, she should. She should get
her cricket, she get that, she should get that one child's left and
get the fuck out of her because she doesn't deserve any of this. Is
poor girl. She's just like being hoisted along by her family and just like
now she's getting attacked like she is. Again, that's a character that I
don't know what the happy ending for that character is, but I hope by
House of Dragons she's not something gets killed off and she does just like pull
like what Dum whoever the Sea Snake Sun was of, just when he just
faked his suicide and got away. I hope she does that because she doesn't.
She doesn't need to be in this war or lose any kids, or
be partnered that would aim in at any point. You know, we don't
need that for so. But yeah, that happened this week where Allison,
you know, we'll get to her offously. She had a bad council meeting.
But they go out there doing just they're regular praying on souls everything like
that, and then they start to leave. This is right after we're there.
Had sent some gifts down the direction of King's landing. It's kind of
tied with a bunch of issues. But now words spreading of hey there's food's
not coming in if so it's very little. All the big goats are going
to the dragon. So the townspeople are pissed about that. Amon says like,
oh, why aren't they blaming Riniera? But like they they go to
the who the direct source is right because so even if Arniera is cutting off
the food, as the master whispers, Larra said, well they look at
the king you to fix it, right, So that was I think Aman's
plan to put it on her, but that's not how it's working out.
So they're getting no food. Verniera sends food. So now all these people
have gotten food and they're charged up because all the food came in boats with
flags with Verniera's you know house on it, which I know at the same
house, but you know, I mean the color and the banner team black.
So now the town is super pissl When they see Helena, the former
queen, and then the or Stain the queen and then the former queen together,
there's a ride and they just go to attack and kill. There's this
great moment where when the guys grabs her and then the knight cuts off his
hand, and then poor Nights so you know ni guard she says, oh,
sheave your swords, and then they're getting attacked and they're not allowed to
pull their swords, so they're just like, no, you're pulling it out.
That order delay that that's outdated at that not some of those guys on
the ground no, they showed guys that didn't have shorts are just get beaten
by them all. So I think they just took it literally literal and just
while our queen said, don't use swords and they're probably beaten to death now.
So yeah, this was great to see because for me, I just
finished to go check out last newscast toends of fun over three hours of just
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Marine, so it's gonna be a good one. But which is it?
They do come out, But it's funny. In Game of Thrones, the
king like and you know, eventually queens circes, but like they don't really
leave the Red Keep that much, you know, and if they do,
it somewhere else, like Robert goes hunting and you know, look what happens
to them, but like that's the only reason he does. Jeffrey rarely leaves.
I say this Emily like Natalie Dormer's character when they're you know, married
or about to get married, and she takes them to like the townsfolks.
Sersu's pissed because it's like you don't stop and go see the people because riots
can happen, and even if they do leave the Red Keep, it's like
for the jous or for a ceremony, or they're like guards everywhere, right,
like Tomblin, Like the fucking is it Tomblin? Whoever? The second
son is of Jamie and tom And yeah, I'm thinking of Torbin because this
fucking Star Wars character. But Tomlin like even he goes out, he's like
surrounded by the Knight's guard, right, So this was kind of fun to
see if Like, I'm sure it's still the case, but this almost felt
like the beginnings of Kings and Queens being like, yeah, you can't go
out anymore, you know, like his eggons, like the think about Ango.
I was kidding, He's still going to brothels. He was doing a
bunch of stuff, but now it's like, one, he can't go anywhere
out, but the same thing with her, It's like they're after you.
So I don't know if this is the start of in Cannon, but it
kind of felt like a mini like, hey, you know why the Kings
and Queens don't go out in the you know game, of thrones. This
is why, because they could just be fucking destroyed and murdered, you know.
Yeah, well there are a few instances right where Jeffrey went out and
one of the people threw shit at his face and he exactly doesn't do that.
But yeah, even with Circe, the only time she really left was
when she got captured by the High Sparrow and that, yeah, and which
is not her choice there, right, that was no, yeah, it
was so I definitely just don't want to leave the right Keep. You're safe
in the right Keep. So yeah, did you do what do you think
continues after this? Now that the people were I assume maybe we're going to
get killed if they got caught the two queens right or worse, they would
have, Yeah, they would have. They would have been worse. It
would not have been good for them. And so it's it's it's I just
it's one of those situations. You look at what Alison has brought on her
family and onto the kingdom, and I mean, this is her fault,
it really is, So like what do you what do you do? What
do you do? At this point? You can't control the Prince regent because
damon, I'm sorry, amon is just like he's nonchalant, doesn't care.
He's offering hilaris. Like what Laris thinks is like the hands positions like no,
you told you're gonna arrange the other person to become the hand. I
was laughing at that was that was brutal. So yeah, he's I really
feel bad for the what is that the Dowager queen and not Queen Dowager or
whatever, not queen. I guess, yeah, that's the place of Gus
technically Aven's king region not. I know Allison is the Dowager Queen, but
I'm meaning I guess her daughter, who is still technically queen because technically Eggon
is still alive, so she's still the queen. I feel bad for her
because she's definitely got it the worst. And yes, when everyone was just
rioting and people were going crazy, it's like, shit, you guys got
to get out of there. That's that's not safe. But yeah, it
was just, uh, it's nuts. And it's such a brilliant tactic too,
to just specifically put your flag on all these boats and send the boats
into the harbor of the harbor you're blockading, and just have it so that
it's all food and people are going to be going crazy and everyone's going to
be kicking the shit out of each other. But then still loving Queen Rania
for sending them food and all that jazz. She still remembers us to leave
whatever the guys like in the streets and stuff. So uh, yeah,
no, it's a good move. And they talked about the last week,
right, like there's more than one way to win a war, and that's
what they're they're starting to right, So yeah, to go to that aim
and scene. So Aiman again continues not very much caring about the people,
very a stout when it comes to the like the battle plans, he has
no whether they're a good idea, they're baddy or even like his mom says,
they're bold. He knows what he wants to do. He's not listening
to other people, and he and he has reasons for doing all those things.
Right, they say, hey, we don't know enough man, and
they're wounded. But then he makes a good point of like, well,
why don't we attack Damon before he even confirms his army, because then at
that point then we get a win, right, Because from his point of
view, it's like, yeah, sure, we can heal up. But
then if he gets those people in those armies and he has a dragon,
well then it might just be an equal battle or outmatched. So I could
understand, like I understood all his reasoning, I understood the council's reasonings too,
if like, hey, you might be pushing too much. But I
think Aiman is just like a tactician and he wants to fight. Right,
even said it again, like we've talked about it. He said, oh,
I you know, my uncle's gonna be a challenge. So again,
as I'm saying that has to happen, they can't tease us with it and
not do it. But and that's where I love Aimen, because I think
there's some mistake. I think the people think is gonna go against him,
right, and I don't think he is a man of the people. I
think he would be probably similar like Egg on the conquer, right, if
he's just gonna go and kill people and be like the king by name,
not by being a good person. But yeah, I think obviously it's a
little bit different because Alison's still to you know, show Lord Laris her feet
and there's other things. But still he always like Lord Larrai's egg On,
which we'll get into a little bit other characters. It seems like he does
have them under his thumb a little bit, or he knows a way to
get under their skin. Where that's what I love where this like the first
I don't think we've seen Amon and Larry's talk that much. And this is
the first time where Amen's king and there's not too many people there, and
Larius is kind of throwing some of his pitches and Amen sees like right through
every single one, like he can just right away tell this guy is a
and he's just gonna try to kind of pretend he's a little finger, right,
He's gonna pretend that he has your best interest in mind, but really
it's looking out for himself. So that's what I loved about Aman. That's
why that's why I, you know, still talk about I think he's a
better Uh. I still think he's a better king than egg On in Moe's
sense, Like I don't think again, there's some mistakes he's making, but
in that way Aggon, he's since Larius has been the picture, he's been
like messing with him and turn around and giving him advice, which is like
mostly I think that that is what Laris wants. And the second though,
Aimon did that as far as one called him on from and then two offered
him the hand slyly, but then took it away that he didn't really offer
him, which was it's funny because he should know, like a couple of
I guess this is where Aiman is a powerhead. A couple episodes ago,
Eggon did that to him and the brothel embarrass him, and then Aimon took
upon himself to get big revenge. So I don't think he knows. Laris
has done quite a few bad things in this show, like he's always you
know, I won't say a bout a snap of a fingers, but he
can set up some bad things. I think he could legitimately have if Aimon
leaves the Red Keep, he could have it looked like some sort of accent
I don't know, like he made aim and made an enemy here. And
now Larius went to Eggon giving the heads up of like, hey, you
know, even if you survive, you're gonna live this life, and even
if you survive, you're probably not gonna because your brother does not want you
to be around here. And that's where I like that complimented him, right,
He's like, that's your advantage. Yes, they're gonna look at you
as being crippled. Yeah. And when he's telling the story, he was
crying too, So he's talking about when he was a kid and everything.
People thought it was like witchcraft that happened in his foot. So the Aiman
master whispers dynamic already, I was like, oh, I'm liking this again,
Aimen. That's where he's too bollheaded. He shouldn't have called him out
in front of everybody. He he he should have played that better. But
he's he's a very direct, precise king. But I think that's the problem
where he has a lack of empathy for people, where even when we say
with eggn he's kind of an idiot, but he did want to try and
help people, right, He's yeah, have your goats back, Yeah,
have your lambbag and Otto was like, no, you can't do this.
So what did you think of the Lari's Aimon showdown? I mean, I
think it was it was intense and I loved everything that Amon was kind of
slurring at him. And so it's it's funny now because yeah, Laris has
popped up with Agon and is trying to reconfirm his position as Agon being like
a support factor for him, because I mean, Egon gave him that position
of power right to be the master of Whispers, and so he definitely has
a hand with Agon. And so I don't know how long Agon's gonna go
here being in this situation, or if eventually Amen's just gonna put the pillow
over his head. I don't know, but I think Laris is feeling his
list of allies growth thin because he had Allison and Allison is gone now Alison
is not in the councils, just doesn't have really any power. Yeah,
Agon is just barely hanging in there. So he's in a sticky situation.
And who knows what Aiman thinks of just having a master whispers in general.
Clearly he doesn't think much of it because it wasn't his decision. And yeah,
he, like Laris, was definitely tiptoeing around, and it did.
I never got the sense that he was implying like, hey, make me
your hand. He was just like you did, okay, Yeah, just
like, oh yeah, Cole's gone and you're gonna need a hand. And
cause he was doing it a council meeting where only like three people were there,
so it's like, if it goes bad, not everybody saw that.
So I because I still thought he wanted to be the hand with a gone
and maybe that might still happen now because who knows what's gonna happen with Cole
if he'll survive Itt ousted out. But yeah, I thought he was maybe
angling to try to because he accepted it very easy, right, He he
didn't want that, he woul like I thought he declined it when when it
was like offered, he's like, you know, it's not my position to
take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he still thank your grace.
But I thank your grace. I'd have to see it again, but
I think he was still like I think he was trying to be modest by
oh, I wouldn't want that, but I thank you. And then when
he takes it away from him, U out to the face and he he
wants Auto to come back. Which is it that tracks because there's literally an
episode I never remember the exact lineage, but Auto is in the Aimen camp
where he thought, no, he would have been a better king. I
think, like I said before, I think one of the lines is he's
better studied, so Auto respects that Aimen at least like did the work to
prepare to become a king or egg on. It just fell in his lap,
right, So, and that's why I still always say I think Aimen
is definitely gonna make some bad decisions. But it's just like if it comes,
let's say you put them both in a room with no counsels, no
master whispers, no hand, who's gonna make the better decisions? I still
think Aimened, especially in a war, but it is the problem. In
a war, he's just so focused on that he's not focused on anything else,
and that's gonna be his downfall. He just wants to win, win,
win, Ever he wants to face off with his brother or his uncle,
I guess. And then also in this council, he he alsted Allison,
which I'm as happy with but not happy with because we've talked about this
that I've been waiting for them to talk because Allison kind of put the blame
on him, and they've lost a child, they lost her near his son,
like all this stuff's gone back and forth, and she put the blamed
him, and maybe it's changed a bit for her now, but still he
did eat Luke and that did Drake not he didn't eat Luke the dragon imagin
it was just a mistake. I couldn't help myself. I just yeah,
I don't know Vagar did it. But yeah, So I liked the conversation,
but it still feels like there is a bigger one to be had.
I feel like this was just the teaser too it And again, if they
don't have the conversation this season, I will be disappointed because it felt like
they were just talking about the council meeting and then he threw her out,
and the only real stuff we got of them being like the father's son is
just she pretty much just alluded that ever since losing his eye, he can't
get over it, right, like all the stuff that the trauma he experienced
as a child, probably the eye losing, being made fun of everything,
He's like still trying to compensate for all that. So I liked the conversation,
but I'm still I just feel like I'm waiting for them to kind of
like blow up each other. Maybe it'll be of egg On actually tells her
what happens, but yeah, Allison is off the council. So what do
you think of this? Yeah, it's it's just funny because when you look
at how she opposed having a queen rule, which should be a male heir,
and she opposed that, and now she's shoehorned in her egg on.
She's not backing down on the misdirection and miscommunication or interpretation I should say of
the Store of Taylor, fire and ice. She's just putting herself in this
position where she's saying, oh, you know, I did serve as Varius's
queen regions, you can elect me to be queen again, and they're like
nope. And then now she's kicked off the council, just like Auto High
Tower has been, so that eyge Towers are essentially they did so much work
to put themselves in a position of power and it's all for nothing because it's
just it's it's mad. Targary isn't thrown now, and this is because of
the High Tower's games. So even though he wants he wants autoback though,
which is interesting, right, because he wants to be Yeah, he said
about to be his hand. That's what he That's who he said. Yeah,
that's why I brought up. But at least unless I'm misunderstanding if anyone
watching, let's know. But I think he said something because he said that
line about you know, you know, shit's happened, but he's always gonna
be loyal to his family. So I think that's why he wants Auto back
of his hand, which I hope so because I love Auto in the show.
The show is always better with Auto. And to your point, you're
talking about Aman, what I liked about that conversation. That's why I'm hoping
to get more. Aiman was like full business because even when she talked about
his eye and trying to make up for lost things, he says, oh,
you know you're the crown owes you a dad, And he was not
willing like he wasn't even addressing her like his mother. He was not getting
personal at all. So I think he's a good thing and a bad thing
for Amen. But the thing that's interesting, and I hope I didn't miss
here, but I think he sent him out to be his hand. But
then who wasn't Allison? Apparently he's not heard from Auto. And there was
another character too, I know her brother. I thought there was a maybe
it was just just inquiring about her. Was that her son? Yes him
away? Now who's the father of the Sylpha Siris? Oh so Tigaro.
Yeah, people brought up I think maybe you weren't on the episode, Mike,
you know, because Mike's more adapted to the Laura who bad Might we
always you know, lean to him in the discord and stuff, But I
think he was in the chat one time he brought up that there is the
third son, and he was never talked about. And I think book readers
are currently are they gonna bring his character in or not? But I think
he's just in old town studying like they said, but before, I think
he's just an old town studying. So I feel like with them mentioning that
he might become some player in the future. But there was specific mention of
multiple characters trying to get a hold of Auto, and they all went,
oh, well, it's a war, and well he's busy. But knowing
this show nothing, They're like, there's no way, it's just well the
Raven just didn't get to Auto and he's just hanging out. I don't know
what has happened to Auto. I don't know. I'm not gonna say it's
like Lord Laris has already been one step ahead and he like has Auto locked
up in a cage somewhere. But what do you like, why do you
think these ravens aren't getting to Audo, Like, why is not responding to
anybody? Oh, it's hard to say. I mean maybe like who would
take him captive if he was gone somewhere? Yeah, I don't know's there's
something we're going on with like moots on the ground right now when you have
the different different houses fighting like in the riverlands and whatnot. So I mean,
I don't want to say that we'll just get another episode with him being
dead, because I feel like we want to see what happens and I don't
want him to necessarily be dead already. I think he's still got a role
to play in the show. My predictions, My prediction is something with Lord
Laris. I think he's one step ahead and he knew they might go back
to Auto, and I think he knows that Auto, even if he likes
Auto, they would probably lean to Auto's choice because it's his grandfather and he
was the hand for like thirty forty years, so that might be a way
to get rid of that. So we'll see. All let's see we talk
Damon. What's talk about quickly Damon, because same stuff's going on. He's
having his nightmare, he's still trying to get Oh yeah, I feel bad
for the older guy. He's waking up. He's gonna get fucking just like
stabbed, like as a jump scare at one time. But yeah, we
finally got Patti back. Viseras was back. We got a scene which was
interesting because that scene at the beginning with the Crown and he cast him off
and says, oh, you know the air for a day, what I
love abelt that is as I just rewatched it. When in that show when
he does it, Dame's all like pisson vinegar, right, he doesn't care.
He has an attitude. But I feel like this scene was to show
what he really felt emotionally when he was casting him out, telling him you're
not gonna be air. We had named new one and you gotta go back
to your wife and he had to go fight that war and everything like that,
and he's like, oh no, don't do and he's crying. He's
like he's yelling at the door. I think that was the show what he
actually felt. And then we got another scene later on with Visarius with his
past wife and his past son, and Damon wasn't there for him in that
sense of like the Damon was there in kings Landon, but it wasn't there
where it's emotional and he's consoling him and everything like that. At least I
don't think. I don't think they didn't show us that. So I think
they just were trying to show that he did king, you know, the
air thing or not. He did really love his brother at times, even
though if they were really combative. But again, I'm still fifty to fifty.
I don't know. With Damon. I think the week before I was
convinced this is gonna be his redemption arc, and then last week when we're
talking like I don't know, maybe this is to just get him more bad,
And now this week is like, well, this doesn't look like a
non redemption. This looks like more of a redemption arc. Right of you're
trying to show what he truly felt about his brother, So I'm back on
the bandwagon. Then he's gonna be somewhat redeemed. But it was nicely for
Sarious, even if it was just for a couple of scenes, because I
you know, obviously we got the memes and everything but I really did like
Vissarius as a character. I think he's one of the better, like Colch
Durragon's Game of Throwne character, you know, always had a smile on and
say, even the worst of times, you know, look at him.
If he can be smile like that, you can smile. But yeah,
what do you think is going on? And then the witch who told him
to stay a couple of days wins would change, and they did. That's
my other prediction. I said they're gonna fuck and I still think that could
happen because they're anytime they talk, they're like fucking like inches inches away from
it, like in a way where it's like that's not a normal way.
But uh, yeah, what do you feel about Damon in this episode?
I think that, uh, he's going through some shit. He really really
is. Yeah, he's bawling in this episode after the dream, like when
he woke up, he's still bawling. He's like, yeah, he's going
through it, man like. And I really did like the scene with him
and with Viseras. I think it was it was very fitting. But someone
is definitely screwing with his drinks. It's gotta be the Witch lady. Yeah,
I don't think it's the main guy who's just kind of hosting him.
That doesn't seem to make sense. Although I don't trust him necessarily, he's
always like right there, ready to like h in, which is a little
weird. But uh, yeah, No, I think we know Damon's intentions
because it's like, oh, I'm gonna go to King's Landing and take it
over, and then Raniera has every right to come by my side, So
we know what his goals are. But it just sucks that he's kind of
still broken off from being a main ally to Raniera. I would have liked
to have seen this kind of carry forth a little bit more along that front.
But again, I think it's it's fitting of his character. Yeah,
I think you're you'll get more him and Vernier. So I guess the finale
will be I imagine the reuniting, right, I imagine the lasts, so
of the reunite, whether she goes there, he goes there, I think,
or do you think there is there a chance that they do the season
they don't get back together. I think they get back together, yeah,
and I but I also don't mean sense of that they are going to be
in love. I think that there's trouble on the front there because she's you
know, obviously we got some stuff to talk about there. But yeah,
it's like her last at break and we'll be right back, and we're back.
So nier I have an interesting forty eight hours. So she has this
night that she polls up. She's like, you know, your grandmother's grandmother
was married here and seems like you have some Targarian blood, so we're gonna
try this. Everyone in the council is kind of like, ah, I
don't know if this is a great idea, you know. And then but
the night all for it, all there to serve his queen and everything like
that. He bends the knees, he's like, you know, I'm gonna
I'll do this. Starts off all right, they're doing the whole ritual and
everything like that, and then he gets up there the dragon even you know,
see smoke, turns and all gives him the saddle, and then all
of a sudden, come on, he's gone. He's gone. One of
the other keepers are gone. To a very disturbing scene where that keeper is
like on fire and he just slits his throat because he doesn't want to die.
From me on fire. Just awful. And then the Knight obviously did
not make it and see smoke escapes anger. I guess because he's just mad.
I had no point thought this was gonna work. And I got a
good laugh when he's like he says, I'm like, I've done it,
like he said, and then it was just like, just say that before
mounting the dragon. Get on the dragon. And I personally was happy because
I would have been very upset with the show if just first try this night
who had even Verners like, oh you need training and we'll see what the
dreadlocks guy, right, But but this is like, oh you need training,
and it's like if you would have just jumped on there and start,
if he was just a part of the Vernier's crew and he just happened to
be here, I would not have liked that. So did you think any
point he was gonna mount that dragon? No? No, I thought.
As soon as they brought him in and they explained the plan, I thought,
Oh, I looked at Madison, We're like, yeah, this guy's
not he's done. He's done. And I give him props for trying to
really sell it to make you think that he was okay, but no,
he was fucking done, like inching forwards, and like, I think if
he really wanted, he could have gotten on the back of he smoke and
actually successfully mounted her. But at the end of the day, I just
think he just took too long. He was nervous, got the best dors
got the best of him, and yeah, I don't know why you attempt
fate like oh you're mine now or some whatever he says. Yeah, he
said some line like yeah, yeah. I was like, no, this
is this is too early, my friend, and it was and then we're
near was ready to throw out the whole plan. Uh. They didn't talk
about anymore, uh you know, siblings or relations or cousins or great cousins
whatever. So we'll see if they bring the more because like we said,
there is other dragons. Jase's whole episode, he's getting really, he's getting
really you know, upset is like the easiest way to put his plans right.
No, he's not liking that, but at this I want to see
where it goes. But at the same time, I'm not too interested into
it because I don't think he's with Damon. It's like, hey, Damon
could go off on it by himself and do something. I don't see Jace
going to King's Land and being like I'm with you guys now right or going
to day. So it's like, there's not that much intrigue to me with
this storyline of him being a little moody. I get it that he's just
like, you know, it has troubles with the mom. But I used
feel like they'll figure it out. And then we got the lady Miss Sarah.
Is that how you pronounce it? Hurkle? He has it, he
he always like knows. But uh so, anyways we get Kirkle will pull
it up. So it's just a lot of that we'ner again going through some
strife. She slaps one of the people in our council, which she's you
know, it's getting heated over there. But then she has a lady or
she has the meeting with Lady Sarah. Do you find that name yet to
you? No? You didn't know almost almost. Why don't you just put
a housted dragon lady and then it's gonna auto populate? I promise that's a
lot easier than putting in the cast. Yeah, the cast, there's a
lot of casts there, but uh, they start talking we're near a same
thing, just doesn't know what's gonna happen, doesn't know what Damon. She's
kind of talking about her obsession with Damon and sounds again like obviously they I
think they do love each other, but just as feels like they want each
other for different reasons. Uh. They talk about child Massaria Massori. Okay,
so they talk about childbirth and all these things. And then and I'm
sorry, tells this terrible story about her father, you know, abusing her
as a child and then left her for dead so she can't have children anymore.
In this ball which I did think we're near when she went over because
she like power hugged her, she like power walked her to give her I
thought the kiss was coming right there. No, then they hugged and they
kissed, and yeah that I called this episode one because they sat when they
were talking the very first time, they said some line about like being with
women, and I can't remember if the Sarah said it and Nier gave a
look or vice versa. Someone said said some line about being with women and
the other one gave like a head cock. I was like, okay,
something's up here. And then every time even this episode when they like stood
outside, they were very close to each other hands wise, you had that
guard just creeping behind them, so nothing was gonna happen there, and they
almost already got caught. I know we're near as a queen in war,
but she might want to put a lock on that door soon if she's gonna
be having an affair with the lady here. So and you know, and
this probably would have got her unless roll of the first place, because this
lady, you know, they can't have kids together, so there's not gonna
be any proof of this affair. So that's a good thing. Damon.
I'm sure we'll find out, and I don't know what's gonna happen join in.
There's there there's a verse. There is a multiverse where Damon would join
in, but there's also multiverse where I think he just kills lady m And
then it's it's like, do you not think Dan would do that for some
reason if you feel she just has a better connection with we're nearer than he
does and like get hert of the equation. Yeah, I could see that.
And of course any kind of threat to well, I don't think he
cares about his claim anymore, he's just doing his own thing. Yeah.
Well, and plus I don't think she'd have a claim. I guess I
could get married, but I don't know that that's gonna happen. Judging by
Game of Thrones, I don't think that's progressive. At one point they had
a lesbian queen in the History of West Roast, because even in the Game
of Thrones, some of those characters still think like that that should be like
a act punishable by death. But yeah, what do you think is gonna
what do you think's gonna go down here? Now that they you know,
they they locked lips and they seem to be connecting, So what do you
what do you think where does that put us in the future or is it
just gonna be like a lust thing that yeah, drives a wedge between Renier
and Dame and when he does get back. Oh well, I think they
timed it well in the episode, having it at the end and having Ranier's
distraction too, because we couldn't really get to interpret how she felt about it.
Ye posts the kiss, so she I mean, of course she got
the news of Sea Smoke and the fact that he's gonna draw a rider,
so she stormed off to go track him down. But uh yeah, I
don't know what's gonna happen, what the fallout of this is gonna be.
I don't think. Uh no, I don't know. It's interesting, but
I'm not sure. I do agree with you they should have put locks on
those doors because that was way too risky. But yeah, I digress.
But I guess at the same time of the Guard's gonna say right like,
they're just gonna keep going, there's there's nothing. No, I'm sure they
know kings and queens are doing stuff, so you know, look at everyone
at the table. They just know Alison stuff to something. So yeah,
yeah, no, it's gonna be interesting what happens there. I think it.
I think that's what's gonna happen is because I just don't see them just
being in love and working out. I feel like they'll be together, lay
together, and then Damon's gonna figure it out, and then I think that'll
create a power struggle and then which will be interesting if they do have Damon's
sleep with a witch, because then he's gonna come back all hypocritical because he'd
be like, oh, why were he with someone else? But then he's
banging this weird witch, which may not happen. Maybe it won't happen,
but either way, I don't like the lady's chances because I feel like him.
Her and Damon already have like a rocky relationship, so now that she's
gonna be sleeping with his wife, and I don't know, Damon's just a
character. I don't see taking that well because I think he've used things his
property, so I could see him doing something like him and then that also
being a more thing that him and Vernier start to like get split apart even
more so right, like they just can't come back from certain things. So
we will see. Is there any other character or any other moment we haven't
talked about that you want to? Mm, I don't think so. I
think that hits everyone. Yeah, I think so. Eggon's in pain.
It's looking brutal, but I guess he's gonna make it aiming of course,
a delean on his gut so that that hurt. But he left his little
king ball or whatever, So I guess Eggon's gonna make a recovering. We'll
see what happened. He can't walk, but I don't know. I think
I think he will tell Alison eventually what happened to him, and then from
there it's gonna be he's gonna tell somebody, right, So yeah, yeah,
Well, ladies, gentlemen, that is it for this episode. We
will be back next week with the penultimate episode, episode seven, see what
happens with this Dragon writer, a bunch of other developments, and then we
will be back. So thank you very much and it will not be boring.
By bye.