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Hey, everybody, It's Tuesday,
September twelve, twenty twenty three. How

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are we already this close to September
almost being done? I can't stand this.

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I'm your host, Jana Chola.
Welcome to the Giant Bomb Cast,

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Episode eight oh six, powered by
ancixt. I'm too scared to press any

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button on this go XLR now,
I'm only touching the sliders. And speaking

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about sliders, we got the Efficionado, the co captain of the ship.

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He'll he'll, he'll judge your sliders
for you. He just needs a little

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taste. Jeff grab white Castle is
an AOK slider. I have declared and

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and there's no going back on that. Jan how excited were you when you

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were going through the footage of the
three sixty cam and you for sure got

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Mike yelling super Bell Hill. Was
that just such a relief? It was?

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He was the biggest relief. I
didn't care about anything else. Yeah.

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Uh there there's actually some very fun
footage of a Kirby waddling that.

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Did you have that with the because
I know you had that with the TSL

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or at least for I had I
had both. Oh that is magic.

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Oh I'm so excited. Uh,
the Nintendo video is coming very soon.

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Speaking about super Bell Hill, we
have the man himself, the officientade of

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the mayor of super Bell Hill,
Mike Manatti. I'm getting a colonoscope on

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Thursday. Yay, Mike? When
when when I interro you on the podcast?

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That isn't an excuse for a miscellaneous
statement? Yeah, Oh, it's

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like, Hi, I'm here,
It's me Mike Manatti. What if this

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was the first BombCast someone listened to, and their interest production to you is

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I'm getting a colonoscopy to be clear
on my first bomb cast? Accidentally,

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should everybody my wallet condoms? Like, I don't know what you want from

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me? You know what? You
know what? Right? The kids are

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all right, and so is Mike
Manati. Yeah, well we'll see and

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returning triumphant return. I'm so glad
he's not super Red. Somehow he has

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maintained the same shade despite being kissed
violently by the sun. Hey, I

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haven't heard the whole story yet.
We have Jeff Bacalo. It's good to

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be back, friends, glad to
be here. Thanks for having me,

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all right, cut the ship?
How much did you hate Disney? Come

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on, listen. Thank you for
calling out the fact that I was able

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to preserve my pastiness while being exposed
way too close to the equator for my

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kind. You know, I did
it. I was. I was in

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a Ruba for a week, and
then I made Disney World for a week.

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No, we're not doing Beach Boys
jokes, Manati, We're just not,

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because there's plenty of jokes to go
around, Barbara. I actually once

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saw somebody from the Beach Boys at
Epicot. What was that guy? Davy

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Jones? I saw Davy Jones at
Epicot Once there we go. I saw

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separation to Epicot. I saw the
Beach Boys at Yankee Stadium and John Stamos

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was playing the drums. Jesse,
Uncle Jesse, Yep, yep. Not

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many people can say that. So
I hang my to that. You know

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true. You know who's a giant
Disney Parks nerd, John Stamos. I

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don't believe you. He has like
he's like bought stuff at the parks in

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his backyard. He loves the parks. He's a freak for it, all

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right, So there's a lot to
unpack. That's right, Folks, gather

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around your little freaks before you get
started. Uh you know that Doobie Brothers

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song that goes give me the beat
Boys, ushas I want to get lost.

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I used to think they were saying, give me the beach Boys,

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and I was very confused, give
me the beach Boys. I mean that's

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a better blind. Yeah, that's
a better demand. Is that what you

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said said when he came to earth
right, give me the beach Boys?

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If free by soul, Davy Jones
was a monkey, not a beach boy.

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I want to get lost in that
gabba goal. That's exactly that was

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the original draft. Listen. Listen. So I spent an entire week in

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Disney World, and I just I
demanded, speaking of demands, that Mike

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Mine come here and defend this place
to me. No, not defend,

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but just like, help me through
it. Okay. I've got a little

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bit of PTSD from the entire experience, and I just need to like,

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Oh, it's a lot, it's
a lot. Okay, Briefly, I

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don't know what I was expecting to
be. Should we preface by saying that,

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Mike, you gave Backlar like a
pretty good rundown. Yeah? I

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gave us some tips. Were my
tips helpful? Your your tips were helpful.

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I think so so we so Stace
and I were watching this. You

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probably know who it is. Do
you know who the ear Scouts guy is?

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Ear Scouts? I'm not familiar Ears. I know all Ears, I

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know Mammoth Club, I know Disney
Food Blood I don't know. That's incredibly

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adorable and likable dude. I think
his name's Rob and you hate him,

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right, No, I liked him
a lot. I was hoping to bump

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into him because we've been watching so
much of his contents, just getting help

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with visiting these parks, because folks, before you go to Disney, you

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basically need like an entire plan of
attack, akin to some sort of like

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invasion process, Like it is so
much. I've not been to Disney World

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since I was maybe eight or nine
years old, right, so we're talking

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like over thirty years since I've been
there. So it was interesting to have

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like certain memories triggered where I was
like, oh my god, I kind

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of remember this little section of the
park. Anyway, we did four parks

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in four days. Oh okay.
Then on the fifth day we went to

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the Magic Kingdom. Back to the
Magic Kingdom for the Halloween party. Oh,

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okay, which is like another wild
experience. So I just there's a

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lot to unpack, and I think
it's got to start with just like I

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as much as I took in Disney
World and as hot as it was,

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because my goodness, friends, it
was the surface of the goddamn sun down

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there. I've never I lost weight
on this trip. Okay, I was

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gone for two weeks. I lost
like six pounds just from sweating. I

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ate like a like a piece of
shit, and I still inexplicably lost weight.

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Backlard, this is your time,
get on TikTok. Talk about this

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as a new fad diet or new
like workout trend. Disney set off diet,

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the Disney sweated off diet. No, I'm not. I'm not trying

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to start. Look, I did
like over one hundred thousand steps right in

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that week at Disney. It was
what it was just insane, the amount

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of like water and like cold towels
and just you're basically like surviving the elements.

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Not to mention, you're in Florida, so you're just dealing with like

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Floridian weirdos and all these fucking assholes
from around the country that come and and

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focus in on Florida. Literally,
not a single person I can relate to.

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I couldn't relate to anybody within a
hundred nobody. I didn't know my

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wife anymore, I didn't know my
son. I couldn't anyone. Nobody was

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on my level, Like I.
These people are just not my people.

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I don't know where they come from. They these are the people. These

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people wake up at six thirty in
the fucking morning and open up their Mickey

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sixty four rounds fucking jugs and pour
mountain dew into them. And I'm just

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like watching, like, wow,
this seems like a problem. What's happening.

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The only person who could relate to
these people's probably Dan Reichert. So

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the fact that Dan got out of
where he came from a lot is is

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his own miracle. It's Disney reel. It's Disney reel. Did you have

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a favorite ride? Okay, so
we'll talk rides in a second. What

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I want to say to you,
Mike Manati, Yes, okay, So

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we saw plenty of your kind there
right, like like plenty of like trash.

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You feel like elder millennials who like
we're just there on their own slots.

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These Disneys. These Disney adults who
just like are we are wearing the

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same shirt. They're in groups of
two to six and they've got like the

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same theme shirt that they had custom
printed and they're walking around Disney. And

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I didn't. I just don't understand. Like I had Okay, let me

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stake a stuff. I had fun. I had fun, and I empirically

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enjoyed my time there. Okay,
all right, but I question. I

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want someone to take this out of
context and imagine that Backlard's talking about Starfield.

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We'll get that, We'll get anyone's
feeling since I went on Space Mountain,

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which is probably better than Starfield.
But listen, Okay, I just

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don't. I can't understand how you
get to your point, Mike, Like,

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how do I like it? Just
now I get it, Like if

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you're like a frequent flyer and you're
in the Disney Vacation Club and you're getting

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all these discounts and you know this
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Like I started to to to calculate
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like, Okay, well, maybe
if I like lived in the area and

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I was always here and I knew
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and I can get to what I
wanted to see and do real as Like

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maybe that's how I turned into one
of these freaks. But I I don't

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get it. I don't get it. How did you become like this?

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It's just a matter of frequent trips
throughout my entire childhood. Like I don't

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remember my first trip to Disney World
even right, Like I was so young

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the first time. Then we basically
just went every year, so like that

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was you know, that was always
the special events. You're predisposed because like

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you enjoy theming of all kinds,
like you like Margaritaville. You like you

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like go into place and feel like
they put effort into building an entertainment product

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for you, Like you appreciate that
of those three booths that are like like,

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no, it's not just here's like
a sign of our game. You're

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going to actually be in hath before
we were like the thing that back of

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our famously hates that Sony E three
press conference. You and I both like

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that, but you especially like that, like because it's like all themed.

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Well, so that's what's amazing,
right, Like the rides at Disney are

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not good, Like there's only six
rides that are three Like in terms of

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being thrilled, you're talking about Oh, let's see, I'm also a coward.

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I don't like big thrills. That's
fine because there's nothing you meaning you're

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not missing much, right Like,
Like the point of going to Disney is

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like, Hey, I want to
walk through a movie set for a week.

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Yeah, you want to be anything? Yeah, and that's what it

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is, like, yes, Like
I grew up, so so here's where

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I'm coming from. I grew up
going a great adventure like five times this

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season in New Jersey, right,
which is like forty three upside down roller

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coasters, right, Like That's that's
my childhood theme park experience. When I'm

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going to Disney, it's just not
that. And I but I appreciate that,

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right, Like I appreciate what Disney
is because it's so the attention to

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details fascinating. I loved how like
every little quick service place is like its

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own name and like they have exclusive
stuff and like that story. Yeah,

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like that's neat. I think the
cannon that they've created there is very neat

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and I and I appreciate that and
that you know, like there's like special

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you know, there's like a special
you know, nightmare before Christmas thing you

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could get while you were there and
like get into like things like star Check

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or Star Wars is because they really
fall deep into the lore, Like there's

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Disney theme parks lore, and you
can get just as deep into that stuff.

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And I think that stuff, that
stuff's kind of cool. However,

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I just can't get over the hump
of like how much they really just bend

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you over at this place, Like
it is so pornographic, the fact that

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you have to basically so you pay
sleeping wallets everywhere you pay for like they're

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going to figure out they're gonna limit
your steps. One day. They will

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fucking figure a way out to be
like, oh, you just made it.

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You were almost that the flight of
passage, but you ran out of

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steps. You gotta get out of
the fucking park or deposit one hundred dollars

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to get the corporation invite you to
go. That was what I Yeah,

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it was great. It's still just
like the fact that I'm paying go ahead

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flight a passage, of course,
but I pay to get on fly a

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passage. Yeah, it helps the
pay make sure you get on there faster.

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Yeah, I'm in the fucking park. I'm already in the red for

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like what, six hundred bucks after
paying to get into the park. And

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then they're like, then another fifteen
bucks a person to get the Genie pass

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right so that I can get so
I can go on the on the ride

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once and not have to wait.
Okay. Then you get to the thing

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and they're like, well, guess
what, motherfucker Okay, this ride.

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No, there's no lightning lane for
this ride. This ride is gonna cost

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you a little bit more unless you
want to wait three hundred and eighty five

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minutes to get on this ride.
And right, so you get out,

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so you and then you pay,
and it's a market. It's like a

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fluctuating price. Okay. These motherfuckers
are not just like ten dollars flat feet.

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It's like whatever the days, like
whatever, that's the lobster. I

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kind of like value for what this
Avatar experience is gonna cause no, it's

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not okay, And that's the other
thing I have to say. You know,

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fucking Avatar and Star Wars and all
this shit, it's just not that

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interesting. Okay, is amazing.
There's floating islands, Backguard. They made

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actual floating islands for you, for
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Land is fascinating. It's fantastic.
All that stuff is great. I don't

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want to speak bad about any of
that. It's really really dope. The

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Navi River Ride is garbage. Okay, that's not that's not a favorite.

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It's not that garbage. Okay.
Passage is incredible. Passage, It's incredible.

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It's just soaring with some like water
spritter. But like that's but that's

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fine. It is you could feel
it breathe under you. You felt you

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felt your Akron breathing under you.
Come on, that's I felt a low

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voltage fan blowing it are in my
face is what I felt it was.

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But that was cool. That was
flight Passage was fan Go to Disney World

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me and you are right, Yeah, here's what's cool. World was out.

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We're gonna have a problem now.
Actually we needed somewhere in the middle.

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These two are too much cool.
What's cool about fly to Passage is

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like, I fundamentally believe that you'll
be able to do fly to Passage stuff

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like in your house in fifteen years. Like I think we're gonna do we're

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gonna start to do that sort of
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your house. I would be a
happy person for sure. See remember when

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like, oh, we made three
D TV so you can watch three D

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movies at home, and then every
nobody really cared. Yeah, ok,

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I think I think that will get
better. I think I get in the

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line, the really highly detailed seemed
line, and I need a beavand I

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need to get a green beer from
the Avatar beer stand. The whole that

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stuff about the Star Wars stuff,
and that I get. I guess like

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lik in Star Wars does not make
me an interesting person. I've stopped feeling

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that way about a half hour ago
after you started talking. But but like,

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let's like, is there like themes
that would click better for you?

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Okay, let's that was this amounts
of money spent. It's like New Jersey

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Devil themed. No, that's okay? What what what works for you?

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Then? Is it just the idea
of theming is not that wowing to you?

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No? I think if someone built
like the Fifth Element, I would

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be into that. Look like I
enjoyed going to Galaxy's Edge, Like I

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thought that was dope place. Yeah, it's fucking cool as hell. They

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it's you know that you go through
that whole market place, you go like

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that ship is awesome. I did
the bar, which is like the canteens.

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Yeah, that was not the numbing
one I had. Like I like,

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I eat like a jello shot out
of like a Petri dish with the

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pop rocks. Like that was dope. The whole thing was awesome. I

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loved all that. That was super
cool. I'm not you know, I'm

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not here to say like, like, was it like we look back to

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the future. Would that theme get
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of people are like, oh,
you would probably like you vers they don't

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have that back. Here's here's the
thing. I think like Disney's just has

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a lot of work to do,
right because I do think for kids who

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are like under twelve, for like
older than five and under twelve, I

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don't think they're that impressed. Like
genuinely, I'm not joking, like I

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get a ship in roadblocks for free
exactly. Like like when I went to

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Disneyland when I was eight, right, I rode Space Mountain. I thought

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it was amazing and I did all
these things and I was like, Wow,

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this is wild thirty years of just
like entertainment goes by, and you

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know, I'm looking at my kid, I'm looking at other kids in the

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player and like they're just the magic. There's not as much magic that strange

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you like one of the newer kid
friendly rides, like the Radit TWI ride.

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Yes, that was phenomenal on Yes, Mickey, many trains excited.

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Let me tell you straight up,
very very impressive stuff, right, the

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Resistance, Rise of the Resistance,
nomenal, phenomenal. Now they're not thrilling,

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they're just sort of like walking into
different That's fine. It's great.

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The fact that these guards are not
on rails and they're just like r F

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I D following a try like unbelievable. I love all the trickery. I

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love all that stuff. I thought
that was phenomenal, Like you can't get

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that experience, dame thing. So
it wasn't impressed by a lot of it.

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No, I think like like he
you know what his favorite thing was

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was the Arrowsmith rock and roller coaster. He's like, yo, I don't

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go on that ride. I've never
been on that ride. I'm like too

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afraid of that because it's an upside
down roller coaster. He's just look.

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Yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy unbelievable, fun, believable when it was Tower

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of Terror. But no, no, no, no, Disney World,

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they still have Towered Terror ins.
Guardians of the Galaxy roller coaster. Yes,

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where the Universe and energy used to
be. So the Guardians of the

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Galaxy roller coaster is a steel coaster
where the train where the cars go three

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hundred and sixty degrees while the roller
coaster is going around. It is one

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of the most impressive rides I've ever
been on in my life. I feel

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bad I haven't done it. I'm
kind of unbelievable. It's on what song

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did I get? Oh, that's
a good question. Yeah, you can

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play different songs. I don't know. Maybe i'll DM stays. Maybe.

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Okay, what about it? Because
I told you some restaurants to go to.

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Uh, did you have a good
time with the food? Because for

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me, that's a big part of
what I like about anymore is all the

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restaurants and stuff. The food is
is is deeply average. But it's like,

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I don't expect anything else. Steakhouse
though, right, come on,

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No, I don't think we did
the steakhouse. What did you do.

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We just like we we had reservations
pretty much each night. Like we actually

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did one Mexican spot in Epcot that
was really good, Okay, the one

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that's that's something. Yeah, yeah, the one where the boat ride goes

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by it or the other one,
Like tell him about all the times you

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almost cried from the food at Disney
No, it's not the one and not

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the one like the as Techne one
closer to the lake in the middle it

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was it was actually kind of like
across the way from it. Yeah,

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yeah, and know exactly unbelievable margarita
there, Like it's really that was really

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good. Again, Like to be
clear, I thoroughly enjoyed my time at

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Disney World. Okay, was it
right fun? But like there's people that

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we have to Yeah, the people
make it bad because everyone is so fucking

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weird and stupid. I get people
like it just makes me realize how much

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of a bubble I live, and
existing knew that before. Like I'm like,

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I've been in the Midwest, and
I've I've been in like I've spent

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a lot of time and places where
you might find that certain kind of audience

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and uh, I've gotten I've built
a bubble where it's just like I am

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actively ignoring you and I don't you
don't even appear to be given me a

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lot, ye, like like go
ahead, go ahead, what's the way

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you have Like the crime connects to
you and like the family that's not dealing

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with it well and they're loud and
it's just love for that. It was.

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It was just like that seems like
a pleasure. I just know like

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there's just uh yeah again. I
like I'll go back to just the statement

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of I cannot relate to these people. Well, you know what, next

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time, bring me and I'll help
you relate more. I'll take your good

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trip and make it fe it was
your face is screamed to you why you

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should like things. It will help. It was really good. Going to

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Disney is like trying out for a
cult, right, It's like trying out

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and seeing if it's pretty. I
think you're you're right, and that that's

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why you want Mike, because you
want like someone who's like excited that you're

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excited about the cult. That's what
really made it work for me is how

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happy Mike was whenever I was happy, Yeah, like oh yeah, this

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is great. I'm glad I see
what you got, what you will see

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in this place. The Halloween,
the Halloween party Friday night was awesome,

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Like I love it. Obviously was
not scary enough, but that's fine.

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You it's Mickey's. It's actually called
Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Part right.

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The parade is dope. I think
I think did like fell in love with

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the concept of a headless horseman,
Like that's a way, yeah, headless.

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Yeah, Like he was delighted for
sure, Like the whole time he

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was, you know, and look
he had the fact that like there's no

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there's barely any line waiting, the
you know, the the unit and day

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difference between when I went and he
when he went, Like that's that's awesome.

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I'm very happy for him. He
got to do and see and taste

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and play with everything. He did
everything. Fucking Space Mountain almost ruined the

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trip though, So I love Space
Mountain. Space Mountain. Space Mountain to

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me will always hold a place in
my in my mind, you know,

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my the theater of my mind because
I first the first time I ever went

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to Disney World, I was like
three, and my parents took me on

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Space Mountain and it was like a
disaster. I cry, like they tell

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me stories about it and I can
barely remember. But it was like a

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horrific experience. I came back five
years later and rocked the place right,

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like, loved every second of it. Something about Space Mountain that's like very

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weird. It's like retro future.
It hasn't been updated. It's like fifty

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fucking years old. It's like older
than anyone who rides it. It's crazy.

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The building it's in is super bizarre. I love that. But this

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ship was broken down for half the
time that we were there. Oh yeah,

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and like someone was telling me they're
gonna update it later this month and

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they're going to close it down for
six months to refurbish it. But and

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we finally got to the Halloween party
because the day that we spend a Magic

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Kingdom, it was closed the entire
day. Keep refreshing the thing, I

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will. The phrase is Space Mountain
open yet is permanently burned into my into

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my ukranium because of how many times
I heard my kids say it. When

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we finally got on at the Halloween
party, they ride it completely in the

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dark. It's already a very dark, right, but they shut off all

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the lights so you don't see anything. That was great. And we also

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got to do Tron again. We
rode Tron twice. That was so so.

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So that's the other thing, right, like the whole the reason we

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went during this week was the thinking, through the help of Mike and others,

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that this was the week where most
of America goes back to school,

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right, so I got lucky my
kids and start school till a little later

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so he wouldn't be missing any school. We went and we're there and do

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you remember what I wrote you?
Mike? I was like, I was

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like, why is this play so
fucking crap? It's always going to be

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crowded. But then we started how
crowded and we started to like talk to

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people and everyone's like, this is
empty, And I was like, you

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don't you have a different definition of
empty, right, and the and like

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the more the trip went on,
Disney empty is a different thing. Yes,

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yeah, exactly, Disney real.
Right, Like, the more we

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went went on, we were like, oh, you know what, like

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maybe this is great. Maybe we
did do this right. We bare like

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I said, we barely waited really
on stuff that we didn't have lightning lane

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or whatever. So we got to
see everything. It was awesome. Yeah,

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I think I think, like overall
really good. My favorite parks probably

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Hollywood Studios and uh, Epcot,
I'll say Club right, which is like

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one of the hotel. Yeah,
that was. The hotel was really nice

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to the pool. We did the
pool the first day we got there.

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The hotel so like, I don't
this is a weird complaint. It's not

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really complaint, but it's like we
were so far away from the elevator,

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like it was almost a very wide
hotel. Why a minute walk now?

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Ware three minutes? Guys, Okay, I'm not above I can walk.

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I'm I'm in decent shape. Like
it's not a problem. Think about what

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three minutes from the elevator to your
door is. That's you get you're tired,

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you get the end of the day. Yeah, when you're tired and

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you're like twenty seven thousand steps in
and you're like cool and back up my

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hotel. Now I got a fucking
like you don't just that's not just going

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downstairs for a offee, that's like
my day has started. It's just yeah,

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it's a it's a minor complaint.
The hotel, for the most part

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was was really good. They give
you these magic bands, or you have

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to buy. You have to buy
the right to pay for things. I'll

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say it again, the right to
pay for everything, which I thought was

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but they're fine ship crazy. Well, I mean the alternative is right is

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everyone everything's line is way way way
longer than you're paying with time, So

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I'd like, yeah you should.
I prefer when you could just pay with

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money and set it. It's the
candy crush experience. So you're just paying

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down. You know, I'm glad
that you didn't. You know, you

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didn't get to be part of packs
Backlar, But this is our whole new

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mentality. We're all punching down now. It's our punching down era back.

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We decided it packs, So we're
gonna get We're going to be big pieces

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of shit. I mean, this
is the role I was born for.

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I think, Yeah, so that, I guess pretty much. I love

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Haunted Mansion. I love that,
love that so much. I just want

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to live inside that attraction. Yeah, I didn't get to the Nomad Lounge?

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Did you an Animal Kingdom? The
fuck is that? It's just a

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fancy bar that I like over there. Well, you didn't tell me about

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it. So I think, oh, I don't believe that, but it's

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it's a little hard to get in. I think I think Animal Kingdom is

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like also running out of like things
to keep you there. We only we

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like went and we were getting by
like three o'clock. A lot of people

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say Animal Kingdom's a half day park. I'm a freak for it, But

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they're actually so that Dinosaur area there, Yeah, the Dinosaur Dinosaur ride,

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as weird as it is, was
like a lot of fun. Have you

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been liked it because they're going to
be replacing it with an Indiana Gem's right,

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all right, that's cool. That's
cool. I gotta say the buzz

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Lightyear Spinnerama ride one of the worst
rides I've ever been on. It's all

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for you. It's actual garbage.
No, there were like eight year olds

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like spitting all over this. It
was because they were like this this ride

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is so bad. It's a freaking
little laser. It's like, this is

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why cancel culture is bad the whole
time. The Toy Story one where it's

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three D with the little poppers,
that was really good that this little binky

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fucking laser piece of shit replace it. Oh Oh, but but I think

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one of the I think for my
money, Guardians is really up there.

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Tron is a good ride, but
also that Everest ride, Oh my god,

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in Animal Kingdom, it's like a
modular roller coaster like changes while you're

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on it. I thought that was
that was the upper limit of roller coasters

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I could ever do. I don't. I can't even do that one anymore.

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But I used to be able to
do that. That's like as big

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a coaster as I was ever able
to go on. It's amazing. Uh

405
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.440
Like they it's just one of it's
just a very inventive and like well executed,

406
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.920
you know roller coasters, where like
it kind of tells a story where

407
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.240
like you know, you think,
like the track ends and then behind you

408
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.480
things are moving and then I just
love that shit. That's what it's like.

409
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:04.960
That's what all Disney is. Disney
is all like look over here while

410
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.559
I do this kind of shit.
It's all misdirection, which is fine.

411
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.920
That's it's part of my Disney braining. Like I'll go on like a normal

412
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.039
world coaster like place and I'll be
like, what's the story here? Though?

413
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.240
You know exactly like when you get
out of that Rise of Resistance teleporter

414
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:25.799
and you enter that room with all
the stormtroopers like that is phenomenal. Oh

415
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.680
my god, is that so rad
where you're just like, holy shit,

416
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.640
I think we're losing Jeff and Jan
over here by what's happening? That guy

417
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:38.400
said back, Lark, would you
go back? Uh, that's a good

418
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:47.279
question. I'd have to wait at
least five years. Okay, Like it's

419
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:52.480
just would you make a trip back
to Orlando and do let's did you do

420
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.039
the water park this time? No? I don't. Would you do like

421
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.279
Universal the water park? And it
maybe one of the again, wait a

422
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.599
few years for Universal to open their
third theme park, which they're making right

423
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.880
now that's going to have the Nintendo
stuff, and then this, Yeah,

424
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.119
yeah, maybe maybe Universal. You
know, having to go to Florida is

425
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:14.279
a big is a big ask.
So it's a big ask. It's a

426
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.799
big it's a shoot. It's a
super short flight. But like it's Florida,

427
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.680
So Florida, you know, it's
uh, it's not it's not right.

428
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.519
So but yeah, you know,
maybe Palladega. It's it's like Orlandos,

429
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.960
I want to go just to Oh
no, it's no. We cannot

430
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.319
sugarcoat this folks, it's bad.
I just want to shake it big,

431
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.079
you know. But anyway, I
don't know, Mike, I feel like

432
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:42.920
we should have a podcast. You
actually do a spoiler cast for Disney World

433
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.359
back. I'm glad that you had
a good time, but I'm I'm really

434
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.720
happy you came back with all these
like grumpy opinions because I wouldn't have it

435
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.000
any other ways. I feared not
nearly. I feared I'm just right,

436
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.920
Like that's all it is. This
is like I would have this is no

437
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.240
other way. But both of you
are right, both, you know.

438
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:08.000
Like I also think the whole fireworks
situation and Magic Kingdom is fucked up,

439
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:14.599
Like, do not do that,
you not Tim Robinson situations like sittince.

440
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:19.200
I've heard the fireworks situations fucked up. It is, dude, Like it

441
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.519
basically becomes woodstock for like ninety minutes, and you're just like, oh wow,

442
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.519
we can't move anymore. We're in
this thing. We're in a crowd

443
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.759
of people the see of humanity,
and God forbid something terrible happens. We're

444
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.119
all fucked. You can't move.
They even say, okay, everyone,

445
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:44.559
the party starts in a half hour. Don't fucking move a muzzle like that

446
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.119
was air spot. You gotta keep
that. Spe did not like that,

447
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.440
and again, you know, having
it be a real feel of one hundred

448
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.119
and seven degrees for the majority of
time I was there, and that's rough.

449
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.519
Sometimes you get lucky September weather something
like we're still having a pretty hot

450
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.319
September a while there. I was
there. One time I was there,

451
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.960
like in July. That was a
big mistake. I remember we were talking

452
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.400
to Mary Poppins and she was basically, can you believe this heat was like

453
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:15.079
miserable too accent? Ah, right, Jan's Marry Poppins thing. Dang it,

454
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.880
Yes, that's right she did.
I just again wanted to shout out

455
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:23.400
ear Scouts on YouTube such such a
helpful video series. With the Lightning Pass.

456
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.119
You gotta wake up at seven and
every day buttons on your guy the

457
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.599
phone. That app is trash too. It's like, but people ask me

458
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.799
about like the Lightning Pass stuff,
that stuff. It's so complicated that even

459
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.839
I'm like, you should just google
that, like see what the people say,

460
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.720
because it's it's every time I'd remind
myself how it actually works. It's

461
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.839
a lot I know, always spent
a lot of time on this. Can

462
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.559
I do one more thing? One
more thing? So I told you Space

463
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.000
Mountains closed like all day? Right, We're there, and like halfway through

464
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.559
the day, I get to pop
up on my in the app from like

465
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.799
the chief marketing, you know,
some like copy paste bullshit, like half

466
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:09.400
apology, like don't do that,
don't don't don't show me like this disingenuous

467
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:15.519
statement from your fucking CMO who's like, we're really sorry space Mountain being closed

468
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:21.119
all day and then do nothing else
and it just says like dismiss You're like

469
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.240
what, well, what am I
supposed to feel? Am I supposed to

470
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.759
feel? Like? Well, everything's
all better now? No, just don't

471
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.279
talk about it. It's bad.
I really wanted to. If you went

472
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.119
to the town hall or guest relations
wherever it was and like complained about it

473
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.599
a little bit, but nicely complained
about it, you might have gotten something

474
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.559
like a free extra lightning lane somewhere. I don't know. It's probably not

475
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.480
worth face time though, because that
they do give you a line exactly,

476
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.559
they do give you another lightning line
and you can use on another line.

477
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.680
That's fine, but like it's stuff
like that upsets me. Also give everyone

478
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.640
more water? Why don't I have? Why is water so problematic in Disney

479
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:59.640
World? This water is problematic.
Just give like I have. I brought

480
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.200
my own thing. Let me fill
it up everywhere. Why don't I have

481
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.160
to fucking like get someone to give
me another cup that I have to throw

482
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:09.960
away that creates more waste? Give
me a fucking cold water fountain everywhere.

483
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.159
Just do that, You'll say on
everything. I have to ask something.

484
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.559
But because this has been on my
mind, did you see any fun popcorn

485
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.480
buckets? Oh? Dude, you're
goddamn right, I did. Okay,

486
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.280
I saw a Donald Duck one for
real. It was like, oh,

487
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:32.079
maybe that was like a candy corn
dispenser. But the but the Nightmare Before

488
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.119
Christmas one was really sick. That
was an exclusive for the Halloween party.

489
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:45.039
Boys. I'm going in two weeks
or two three weeks, Tom and Kingdom

490
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:52.599
hearts Donalds jan whatever. Exclusive you
know, popcorn holders, you know hook

491
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.199
it up. Okay, you're in
all this too, though, I guess

492
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:04.000
so that's even I have not delved
into the world of popcorn orders. That's

493
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.280
too much. That's tacky. I
don't need that. There's a lot of

494
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.719
people who like just go to that
thing for all that stuff, like the

495
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.559
March stuff is a whole other podcast. But anyway, I'm going in November

496
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:22.480
to Disney World. So wow,
it seems like that whole event for you

497
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:30.360
back Lar was one big blur,
just like sometimes a mirrage can be because

498
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.679
the space between Disney and World.
By the way, sorry, that triggered

499
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.320
me from the header. Could have
could have said that forty minutes ago,

500
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.920
Mike. I just noticed it now
and I just had to say something.

501
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.159
It's important to me. I was
pretty normal with that. I'd grubbing you.

502
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.360
Okay, I was normal, right, Uh, I can't lie.

503
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:59.000
That was too much Disney guys,
that was okay. I hate when they

504
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.440
talk about wrestling people now, Oh
my god, I keep my mouth shut.

505
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.360
I just I gotta do this podcast. They all have to talk about

506
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.599
video games. I don't have any
energy left for this. And that kid

507
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:15.559
will never do it again, Assassin's
Creed. Oh that being said someone someone

508
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.039
out there. I know you're listening, Bob. I know you're listening,

509
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.239
said grub and I to Disney World. We're a great time, and we'll

510
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.400
bring Mike with us. Yeah,
okay, I guess it is a free

511
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.960
trip I go back and to go
I had to be a skipper apparently on

512
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:35.320
the Jungle Cruize myself, Mike,
you're gonna stay, gonna be a skipper.

513
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.039
I'm gonna be a skipper. Who
told you you're gonna be a skipper?

514
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.000
Ben Starr said you were going to
be a skipper. That's right,

515
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.800
come on, believe in yourself.
Assassin Cuede Mirage's Assassin's Creed. It's very

516
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:51.239
very Assassin's Creed. All right.
I'm kind of happy about that. It

517
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:59.559
honestly reminds me of Assassin's Creed.
Brotherhood and two and then of I guess

518
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.880
Unity a bit in terms of like
some of the a lot of extra little

519
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:07.760
side stuff to do that is mostly
pretty interesting. But you know, me

520
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.840
and Mike played this previews segment and
it's like they throw you into the world

521
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.480
kind of a little bit later in
the game, and you're supposed to go

522
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:19.480
around investigating this this uh this uh, you know problem in the marketplace.

523
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.000
I guess, well, I was
rushed for time, so I didn't get

524
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.719
to the there's an auction segment where
you can mess around with that, and

525
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:28.760
Mike, maybe you can fill in
some of those details. But overall I'm

526
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:30.880
like, hey, this is just
the Assassin's Creed where I'm holding one button

527
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.119
and pushing forward to either like climb
on stuff or I'm holding the other button

528
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.159
to climb down stuff, and that
works really well. And then it's a

529
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:43.599
very stealthy game again, and like
you even get like you get the blade,

530
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.639
you know, the Assassin's blade,
and a lot of the kills are

531
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:47.599
like, you know, punch a
guy a couple of times to a counter

532
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:52.119
and then Assassin's blade them to put
them down and move on, and you

533
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.320
feel very deadly. And I that's
the Assassins Creed stuff I like. And

534
00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:00.000
surprisingly that's relatively rare, I guess
in the Assassin's Green Assassins Creed games these

535
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.480
days, where it's like you're not
always going to have that blade or that's

536
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.119
not gonna be your main way of
interacting with with kills, and I like

537
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.920
it when it is. So I'm
pretty happy with this. And yet I'm

538
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.519
not like clamoring to get my hands
back on it either. I don't know,

539
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.760
how do you feel like? I? Yeah, I enjoyed it.

540
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.679
I think even a bit more than
you because this is the style Assasins Creed

541
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:21.440
that I did, Like, I
really did like Assassin's Creed for a while.

542
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.400
I haven't liked that first one back
when everyone complained it was repetitive.

543
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.360
I really like the whole two trilogy, right, Yeah, Like I am

544
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.039
happy to have a game that it
is that is basically just one city,

545
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:36.440
like an open world city, great
and open world. All of England too

546
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.320
much, don't need that. Actually, don't need all of Greece, don't

547
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:44.079
need all of Egypt just too much. But yeah, I like that this

548
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:45.679
is a game that is about stelf
again, Like, you know, if

549
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.719
I can jump on a personal,
if a knife, I'm gonna kill them.

550
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.639
It doesn't matter what level they are. There are no levels, so

551
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.239
thank god for that. No cool
down combat abilities. I'm really over that.

552
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.440
In the Assassin's Creed games, you
know, they even do reward you

553
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.039
for doing this stealth Like you have
a super meter that you fill up when

554
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:06.400
you get stealth kills, and when
that fills up, you can do like

555
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.800
a chain stealth kill attack, which
is good for small right, kind of

556
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.800
like a little bit like Dead Eye
right where it's like a cool bang bang

557
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.039
sort of thing. Right, And
I even like doing the Middle Eastern setting

558
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:21.199
again, Like I associate that so
much with Assassin's Creed because of the first

559
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:27.519
game, and then Constantinople was used
for Assessons create the third one, the

560
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.880
sequel to Brotherhood. What was that
one called again? Oh, it had

561
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.280
a dumb name, Revelation, that
name Revelations. There were no revelations in

562
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.639
it, which is why confused,
Like nothing important happened in that game.

563
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.960
But yeah, Revelations was a Constantinople, which is you know, the gateways

564
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.719
of the Middle East, right.
Uh so, Yeah, I wasn't enjoying

565
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.000
it. I saw it some things. I don't know why we st to

566
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:54.039
have this fucking bird mechanic, Like
the bird really likes drones, you know,

567
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.760
they gotta figure out a drone and
every little thing. There's nothing fun

568
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.480
about like having to stop and play
Where's Wado with NPC's for a while.

569
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.960
Yeah, I don't like it.
Some people like to have that overview because

570
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:07.440
it like makes them feel like they
have more command of the situation. I

571
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:10.239
think you like when they force you
to use it. I'm with you,

572
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.840
Mike. If it's like an option, it's completely harmless. Uh they I

573
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:15.920
did get to a point. You're
right in the demo where you had to

574
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.559
use it, but I think that
was more like a tutorialization. In this

575
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.199
vertical slice, I'll say, like
I I like the investigation segment where I

576
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:28.639
am supposed to be like, Okay, this person or this group of people

577
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.920
know something, uh, and it's
like a fort and you're gonna have to

578
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.119
like find their written stuff in there. But it's not They're not gonna tell

579
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.320
you where it is. You actually
have to go in there and look around

580
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.400
and find it yourself and either stealthily
avoid combat or stealth that we take everyone

581
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:45.519
out, or actually just go in
there and wreck house. And the option

582
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:47.800
of how you do that's completely up
to you. But I like that.

583
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.599
I like any time a game it's
like here's a small little space. You

584
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.199
know, it's it's a four it's
a small fort and there's like four or

585
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:59.079
five small little buildings, and go
ahead and find a way to get in

586
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.719
there and find stuff and they're on
your own without without us just putting away

587
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.599
point down. I appreciate that makes
me feel more a part of the world.

588
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.480
I liked that part, but like
like the main target in the demo,

589
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.639
it was like a really story focus
thing, and that really was just

590
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.920
hey, do what the mission say. And then eventually the mission like got

591
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.480
me to her, and then a
cut scene played, and then the cut

592
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.440
scene I killed her, and I
was like, man, this should be

593
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.840
more like a hit Man now,
right where I have a target and they

594
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.079
are somewhere and I know where they
are, and like it's a matter of

595
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.280
just finding out how to get to
them. I think they can't do that

596
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.199
because it is relatively easy to kill
people and then get away in this game

597
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.280
compared to a hit Man. But
it's like that aspect I thought was a

598
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.800
little disappointing, But in general I
was having a pretty good time. If

599
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:49.039
someone missed like the last couple of
Assassin's Creeds like Valhalla and everything, this

600
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.119
this is the one for you,
okay. Yea said like if you were

601
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.960
like afraid of the big RPG like
one hundred and fifty hour claims and stuff

602
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.440
like that, and in the leveling, like there are people who like those

603
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.760
Assassins Creeds. I sometimes I really
liked. You can't actually I can't remember

604
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.960
which one was now not Origin's not
Valhalla? What's the one in between therese

605
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:14.400
Odyssey? I like the Odyssey,
and but it's like I'm not going to

606
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:15.480
do all three of those games.
I'm gonna pick the one I like.

607
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.159
But I could play another Assassin's Creed
if it's something like this. Uh,

608
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.199
and but if all those other ones
were kind of too big and too much

609
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.599
for you, this is also the
one. It is definitely. Hey,

610
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.679
they took DLC for one of the
games Valhalla, and expanded into its own

611
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.280
thing, and it does feel like
its own thing, like completely a bad

612
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.800
Dad existing as a city. And
then it's it's like it's it's a full

613
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.320
Assassins Creed game, but it's not
going to be this endless thing where it's

614
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.880
just going to completely take up all
your time. Did they talk any thing

615
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.119
about like length of the game,
because I know that the like Valhalla was

616
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:52.159
like a big beefy ball too much, right, Yeah, it's too much

617
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.760
this one. I know it's going
to be shorter, I forget. And

618
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:59.000
I know it also doesn't like really
do much like modern daytime stuff, which

619
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:00.960
is I kind of it. At
this point they said, this is very

620
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.440
STANDALONEI like it. You don't have
to worry about how this ties into like

621
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:12.559
the overall lore about like Juno and
eat apples of what are you saying,

622
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.840
wow, you know, like the
Adam and Eve people, and you forgot

623
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.480
about that ship. Oh right,
you know the early email application. Oh

624
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.880
okay, but Juno dot com.
Uh, Assassins Creed Morange is about twenty

625
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:28.159
twenty five hours. That's what they've
been saying publicly. Oh and that sounds

626
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.000
perfectly reasonable for an Assassin's Creed game. Every one that's coming out this holiday

627
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.400
where it's really packed, it's like, okay, you're coming. They moved

628
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.199
it up a little bit early.
That's great. I'm probably still not gonna

629
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.400
like try to finish this game or
anything like that, but I'll play through

630
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.159
what I can of it while I'll
wait for other stuff to drop Spider Man

631
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:47.320
or Super Mario, Brothers wonder Yeah, yep. Uh, well, I

632
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.440
haven't touched in an Assassin's Creed I
think since Brotherhood, and it feels like

633
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:54.519
that's the best one. Yeah.
It feels like a Stranger at this point,

634
00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.920
and that ties in perfectly because I've
been playing something called Void Stranger.

635
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:07.199
Okay, are you gents familiar with
what a Soaco bond is. It's like

636
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.760
a moving boxes puzzle style game.
Okay, Yeah, it's like top down

637
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.679
like you gotta move a puzzle to
get to an exit generally or like oh

638
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:22.920
like a Catherine Well, except completely
flat like two flat cast one. They

639
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:29.440
were not flat in Castle. It's
just like the pipe puzzles and bioshot kind

640
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.679
of thing, uh, kind of
sort of not really, like you gotta

641
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:36.079
push like boxes around and you can
only move them so much, and like

642
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:37.639
if you push them against the wall, you're kind of screwed. Is that?

643
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.480
Like when you got like the nine
grid of numbers and you gotta put

644
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.360
close close close to that. So
Void Stranger is one of those and I

645
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.400
except instead of pushing boxes around,
you have a magical staff where you can

646
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.639
grab the tile in front of you
and move it somewhere else. So sometimes

647
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.119
you're just moving a regular tile,
or you're moving a glass tile, and

648
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:06.760
if you step on the glass tile, it breaks away. And this game

649
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:14.199
quickly dives into the pool of what
the fuck is going on? Because if

650
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:15.880
you look at the trailers of this
game or like just screenshots, it's just

651
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:21.199
very plain looking. It looks like
it's ripped out of Likens or like a

652
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:25.119
game Boy, because it's just two
colors two three colors max. But what

653
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:29.960
they manage to do with it is
very odd because on its face, it's

654
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.760
just a Soaca Bond style game.
You're just moving around and trying to navigate

655
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.639
these puzzles. They'll add elements of
like okay, now there are enemies in

656
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.719
this specific tile set, and they
move when you move or they only move

657
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:49.119
when you like come across one of
their cardinal directions. And this game it's

658
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.480
very difficult, really fast. It
really reminds me of how difficult and like

659
00:45:52.840 --> 00:46:01.360
headbanging U Baba is you occasionally where
Chips Challenge, Like, yeah, actually

660
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:07.480
this is exactly like Chips Challenge.
Okay, you just say that, you

661
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:12.400
know, I always say everything is
like Chips Challenge so compared to something else.

662
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.079
So you know, if you're looking
in one cardinal direction, you can't

663
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:21.199
turn around in place right, So
if you wind up moving your character forward,

664
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.800
you can only place a tile forward
or move forward. You can't turn

665
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:29.039
to your left or your right in
that spot. You have to be able

666
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:34.480
to like uh move around in like
the grid to face left or right.

667
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:39.000
So it's very challenging. There there's
a lot of weird shit in this game,

668
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:45.159
though, guys. There's like there's
a there's a very interesting story,

669
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:47.159
is it, what's the what's the
card game from a couple of years ago

670
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.039
that the one in the cabin?
Yeah, inscription is it? Are you

671
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.960
like you're thinking like along those lines. I wouldn't go as far as to

672
00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.719
like kind of reading change in genres
or anything like that. Whatever. What

673
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:06.000
Okay? See, Okay, it's
mysterious. At the very least, there's

674
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.599
there's a lot more underneath the surface
of the game. The music is also

675
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:15.440
fantastic, and I also think it's
great how they'll have full on character portraits

676
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.199
occasionally, and when you start the
game there's a cinematic and it's all done

677
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:23.199
and like the similar artside where it's
only utilizing like three colors, and it's

678
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.960
really impressive what they're able to pull
off. There are moments in this game

679
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.239
after you complete a couple of tile
sets or levels, floors, whatever you

680
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:36.519
want to call it, where you
come across a tree to take a break,

681
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.840
And I suggest that instead of continuing
on and just jamming through more puzzles,

682
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.800
go stop at the tree, take
a break, because then it'll it'll

683
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.840
actually force quit the game because interesting
stuff will happen once you kick the game

684
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:57.320
back up. Oh okay, and
that's cool. It's oh god, there's

685
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:01.719
it's. It's weird, y'all.
There's points where it's it's for being like

686
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:07.199
a simple format of a game of
just pushing tiles around. There have been

687
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.440
moments in this game where like my
heart is pounding and like I'm trying to

688
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.679
race against like an internal clock in
my head of like no, no,

689
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:15.159
no, I gotta I gotta keep
going down. I gotta keep going down.

690
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.519
I need to see what's next.
So there is a lot more to

691
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:24.480
the story Avoid Stranger than just pushing
tiles around. It's it's wild, guys,

692
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:31.519
like it's. It's also for for
being like a very simple looking game,

693
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.639
very buzzomy, very bosomy. Okay, let me go download it,

694
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:40.480
so Catherine, come on. Yeah, oh that's a good call out buzzomy,

695
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:46.039
like like cleavage, yes you heavy
cleavage game? Yes, yeah,

696
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:52.880
speaking about speaking about a heavy hit, speaking about a heavy cleavage game.

697
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:58.800
Jeff Grob you've been playing for it
some motorsport right and the bonnets on these

698
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:02.559
cars? Whooh bah? So I'm
in the I was in the preview period

699
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:05.880
for it's going to turn off today, so I have to use the past

700
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.719
tense. I think I got some
footage of it. I'll try to put

701
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:13.239
something up. I can only do
the first sort of race circuit. But

702
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.159
this is Forts and Motorsport rebooted,
uh, you know, as much as

703
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.199
you can reboot a racing game.
Basically, that means that they took some

704
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.480
extra time to put extra effort into
improving the racing engine and how that feels.

705
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.239
But I think they've also done a
lot of work to like how the

706
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.480
game presents itself, which is really
what's actually it's the combination of factors.

707
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.199
I think Forts and Motorsport has always
done a really good job of being fun,

708
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.679
even if you're someone who's like not
super into racing SEMs. A lot

709
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.719
of that comes down to they have
a strong focus on the feeling of the

710
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.119
car meeting the pavement and what that
feels like. And a lot of that

711
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.599
was what was Hey, the Xbox
controller actually has really good haptics and it's

712
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.679
and it's a triggers so you can
feel like when you're gassing at too much

713
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.840
and the and the tires are beginning
to slip, like you could feel that

714
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:02.280
in the controller, and it was
also you could feel you could hear it.

715
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:06.639
There's just a lot of feedback to
help you get control of your car

716
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.440
and feel like you have this this
command of it, so that stuff was

717
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.599
always always there's they still have that. I think it's even better here.

718
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:20.119
But they've also got this progression system
that is very rewarding, where you are

719
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.320
unlocking a bunch of parts for your
car, and then you can either manually

720
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.679
add them to your to your car
to upgrade it, or you can just

721
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.000
hit the button say auto upgrade,
and now you're even more powerful and you

722
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.800
have a better chance of winning the
next race. And that's nice. I

723
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.519
think. I think Dan has is
prone too, But like really getting into

724
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.800
the weeds about like tuning my car
was always a bit yes, yes,

725
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.559
same here, I'm not gonna do
I was, I was. I'm kind

726
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.559
of doing that with armored Core six. But even there, it's a little

727
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:45.639
bit much for me, right,
Yeah, I feel like it's simpler for

728
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:49.840
some reason when it's something like made
up like a robot, I get it

729
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.679
a roe bit excuse me, But
like when it's a car, which is

730
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:53.639
a real thing, Like I have
no idea what that. I think we

731
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.639
were talking about this and like the
thought came across my mind where it's like,

732
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:01.039
at least with armored Core six or
am similarity to that, you feel

733
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:07.599
the difference because like it's it's immediately
impacting you versus with a car, it's

734
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.599
more fine tune adjustments, right,
Like my robot has four legs, now,

735
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:14.119
like I get it exactly right,
like my car. It's like,

736
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:15.880
I don't know what this carburetor does. I don't know what a carburetor does.

737
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:21.039
That's the thing that like sends fuel
into the shore. Pistons. I

738
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:28.000
think you just said piss Yes I
did, and piss tons. Okay,

739
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.800
So it's like, yes, the
options are there for you to go in

740
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:36.920
there and use the parts manually.
You could also then separately tune those parts.

741
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:38.960
So if you're a real freak,
the game is still that game.

742
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.039
I have not been engaged with the
tuning at all, and I've only engaged

743
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.920
with the upgrades so far. As
I hit that button that says automatically improved

744
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.599
by car, and then I see
the performance indicator, that PI number which

745
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.039
has been in force for a long
time, I see that go up,

746
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.679
and then I'm still in like the
D class car, but now it's D

747
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:00.320
Class five ninety nine. The very
top of D class, so I know

748
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.519
I have the best chance of outracing
my opponents if like we're on a straight

749
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:07.199
away. Now, there's still variations
there. You could still maybe spect your

750
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:08.920
car differently if you wanted to be
better at breaking and turning, so you

751
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:13.119
maybe overtake people in the turns as
opposed to the straightaways. But again that

752
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.639
comes down to whether or not you
want to engage with that stuff. What's

753
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:17.360
really getting me? What's really like, I'm like, oh man, I

754
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.559
miss forts a motorsport is that presentation
of every Like during the race, I'm

755
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.000
upgrading my personal rank a couple of
times, and then my car rank is

756
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.320
going up a couple of times,
and it pops up with those you know,

757
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.039
those chimes of like level level nine, and it looks and sounds so

758
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:37.920
good, and this constant stream of
rewards and it looks so slick and and

759
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.559
all that stuff is just working so
well that I'm like, I am just

760
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:44.039
having a great time. And then
when I get in the race and I

761
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.719
feel like I'm moving past these guys
and it's like a real battle, and

762
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.199
I like, I get into it
so much that I anytime I like hit

763
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.679
another car, I'm like rewinding,
I'm like, no, no collisions.

764
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.960
I'm gonna play clean races, and
it's like it's winning me over and I'm

765
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.199
back into forts and motorsport again.
I want to ask you because I want

766
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.360
that as in this of you,
and just never played it because of packs

767
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:04.679
and then those and other things,
and I just felt bad about that.

768
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.800
I just played it like the la
past two days. Yeah, what are

769
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:09.280
the vibes like? So like in
a Grant Charisma, I actually I like

770
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:13.440
the vibes, They're quite a bit. And then in a Forts Horizon,

771
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.559
which I know is very different,
like the vibes there I find off putting

772
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:22.559
the whole we're partying and we're on
social media, put it that whole thing.

773
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:23.599
What are the vibes like in this
one? Do I get that?

774
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:29.599
So I get some Ford versus Ferrari
vibes in this it's it is much closer

775
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:35.199
to grand tarismos, like we are
calmly all just super into cars and we

776
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:39.960
are just gonna have like a mellow
conversation about why this chassis is so much

777
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:45.880
better than this other one. But
it is mostly like a lady talking to

778
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:47.639
you about what you need to do
to be a better racer and what you

779
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:51.400
need to do to your car to
making a better car, and it's all

780
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:55.000
presented. It's very classy, is
it's what they're going for, very much

781
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:59.679
the opposite of Forts Horizon. This
is all about it. We are high

782
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:04.480
end car enthusiast and that means sometimes
you're gonna be in a Volkswagen Golf.

783
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.760
But here's why Volkswagen Golf actually fucking
owns, and like we're totally into those

784
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:13.199
just as much as we're into you
know, rare supercars and ultra supercars,

785
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:15.639
irons, MC, getting your McLarens
and stuff. So yeah, I was

786
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:21.320
playing in a Nissan was a GTR
I'm I'm not a car guy. And

787
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.360
then I played a little bit of
the Ford Mustang and I like to have

788
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.480
those like like the Nissan is like, oh, this is a tuner car.

789
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.360
This is something like where you're gonna
be trying to speck it up so

790
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.639
it's way better than the street version
that you buy. And then the Ford

791
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:36.119
Mustang is like, this thing is
just gonna go, and it's gonna be

792
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:37.920
the kind of one that's like,
when it's really going, it's gonna be

793
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.639
hard to control. And that's where
you really the force feedback and the triggers

794
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.920
really matters, So like just test
those about out. It's like all that

795
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.400
stuff is still true. It's still
Fords a motorsport. It's like it's it's

796
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.360
not some complete like clean slate in
any way. It just is. At

797
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:55.000
the same time, I think probably
the best the series has ever been,

798
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:59.599
and that's exciting as someone who when
I've reviewed a lot of these now whenever

799
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:01.320
I do, I end up having
a great time, and I'm having a

800
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:06.159
great time again. Follow up question
to Mike's vibe question here, Grub,

801
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.559
what drink would you equate Ford's a
motorsport too? Yeah? I think of

802
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:17.719
Grand Tarismo as like an espresso,
right, very clean, very precise forts

803
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.599
motors or forts horizons, like a
monster energy drink. Yes, maybe it's

804
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:30.199
like it's like a buzz ball maybe
you know Crew Motorsports Loco. Yeah,

805
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:35.159
I just do. I diditely associate
it with like you are going to a

806
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:39.199
really nice brewpub, like you're going
into a place that is yeah yeah,

807
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:44.320
yeah, like a ten thousand year
old brewery that has like wood everywhere,

808
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:46.880
and but they've like they keep it
like updating and they keep it feeling nice

809
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:51.559
and stuffs good in there smells.
Yes, there's a good smell like and

810
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:53.239
it's like, oh, they clean
this every day. It's not just like

811
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.679
cleaning products. Like they have their
own way of cleaning it and then they

812
00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:01.079
polish everything a custom. Yes,
it's really slick and it's really it's like

813
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:06.440
earthy at the same time. I
think it's on top of that. Would

814
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:13.320
you say something like snow Runners is
like diner coffee. Yes, it's definitely

815
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.559
that is blue, Yes, diesel
fuel and and diner coffee and mental cigarettes

816
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:22.920
is what McDonald's diet coke of racing
games. That's that's the new truck game

817
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.280
that's coming out this week that I'll
be talking about on the next bomb cast,

818
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.000
which I can't remember what it's called, but it really is coming out

819
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.960
there. Let me get the clearly
excited about it. What is it?

820
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:40.519
Tasted that heavy Duty Challenge upset.
Everybody knows that the like, that's a

821
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.880
thing. The McDonald's diet Coke's the
best diet coke. Oh I thought it

822
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:49.480
was. No. Didn't you say
something about cigarettes. Oh yeah, that's

823
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.599
that's the truck driving game. Yeah, yeah, don't worry, don't worry.

824
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.039
Yeah, I think like cigarettes,
don't smoke, kids, don't smoke,

825
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:59.719
don't smoke. Instead of review scores, I think we should honestly just

826
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.840
issuing like drinks to two games.
Like I think we should standardize our review

827
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:12.639
scores and have to say how long
we played each game for god Buddy Online.

828
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:14.880
Yeah, I don't even know why
I brought it up, but it's

829
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:16.519
annoyed me and I had to say
it. Can you imagine it, like

830
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:20.960
there was like some regulatory body that
came down and told us how to review

831
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.920
games. Let's be that, Let's
do that. That's what we do.

832
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:31.920
I gotta go wipe a buttle beer
back. Uh, well, I was

833
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:37.960
gonna. I'll change the next game
I was going to talk about. Mike,

834
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:43.079
you tweeted something about furry Nintendo sixty
four characters, and I couldn't be

835
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:49.280
happier that you're here today to talk
about this on Pseudo Regalia Regalia Regalia.

836
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:52.800
Yeah, this is one of people
have been telling me to try out.

837
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:57.559
It came out this year. It's
an indie game. It's on PC.

838
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.199
I don't know if it's anywhere else, but it's whole thing is that it's

839
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:06.400
a three D Metroid Vanya with kind
of like Mario sixty four mechanics with some

840
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.079
combat stuff, but it's a lot
of platforming. It's very three D platform

841
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:15.800
or heavy. The aesthetic is entirely
Mario sixty four Super Ntel sixty four.

842
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:20.239
It specifically looks a lot like that
one level in Mario sixty four. We

843
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.719
have to like change the water level
a bunch, you know, it looks

844
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.159
I'm looking at the video, Yeah, yeah, it looks like that a

845
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:28.559
lot. So, like a lot
of that stuff is just like pretty like

846
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.960
okay, yeah, retro throwback.
We see that. And then for no

847
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:36.119
reason, like the main character is
like a furry with like pretty chesty.

848
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.880
There's an option beginning if you want
her to wear pants are not uh no

849
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:45.159
pants as the default option. Right, So it is weird like just like

850
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.440
this like otherwise like completely different thing
it's going for. But then all of

851
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:51.519
a sudden, like oh, by
the way, like there is like some

852
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.039
furryiness to this thing for sure.
It's kind of like that. Remember dust

853
00:58:54.480 --> 00:59:01.880
An Allegiant. It was a really
good two D metro Venia action game,

854
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.880
but just like a surprise furries,
right, I was like, okay,

855
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:07.840
and I think some some people that
might be hard to get past. It's

856
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:12.679
easier to get past here because there's
no like voice acting, there's no real

857
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.079
story, which I like, you
just go and the all the three D

858
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.880
platforming feels very good. It is
a pretty old school metro Vinia style where

859
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.000
there's no even like in game map, so it's very easy to get lost.

860
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:28.519
Like even I, who am generally
not complaining about getting lost these kind

861
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.039
of games, I like getting lost. I'm I was getting pretty lost.

862
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:38.559
And wow, I know you're just
asking. I know he wants it so

863
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:42.599
bad. I don't want to be
involved with it if I yeah, I

864
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.920
want you to know how bad if
I ever hear David Jaffey say the words

865
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:52.039
Mike Benotti, I'm gonna be so
bad at welcome I welcome it. I

866
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.760
don't. I do not need that
at my life. No, please,

867
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.360
I'd rather Yeah, I'd rather have
a furry, pantless character in all my

868
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.320
games than of that happen. Hell. Yeah, I'm intrigued, But you're

869
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:06.119
as far. I think we're pretty
harsh judges of these games that are trying

870
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:10.159
to be like the games from in
sixty four and PlayStation and even or like

871
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:13.639
even like the two D games that
are like, hey, we're gonna be

872
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:19.000
like a new Metroidbania or a two
D platformer, and most don't get too

873
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:22.039
close to actually recapturing that magic.
Is it is this close enough or it

874
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.000
doesn't meet that sort of level expectation. Yeah, you know, I've been

875
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:30.000
critical of like these indie games.
I've cracked the two D nut for a

876
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.800
while, and you know, making
three D platforms has proved more challenging.

877
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:37.440
We have some that are doing well
or getting close. I know a lot

878
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.079
of people like I had in time, it didn't quite reachet spot for me,

879
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.559
but like we've been getting better.
This is like another promising step there.

880
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:47.800
Or again, just the basic feel
of it is very good. The

881
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:52.440
actual platforming it feels fantastic, and
that that is the most portant, even

882
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.320
like the wall jippy mechanics interesting,
it's more of a wall kick off.

883
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:58.880
You do it looks only do it
three times? Yeah, So it just

884
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:02.000
it just feels really nice to play. It was pretty breezy, wasn't.

885
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:05.719
Yeah. I was going to play
it after our armored course sex on my

886
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:09.119
steam deck or my ally, but
I've been having to use one armored course

887
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:12.599
sex, so we all know.
Rod, here's in la. Uh.

888
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:17.079
You know, it's interesting you brought
up the whole Nintendo sixty four vibe grub

889
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:21.599
because you know, as as a
complete novice to game development. And when

890
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.840
I say novice, I mean I
have no existing knowledge. Is it easier

891
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:30.400
to go after something super stylized like
this, where it's like super low polygone

892
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:37.199
intentionally or is that harder given like
the tools with developers. Now, I'm

893
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:39.679
not asking for an answer, I'm
just positing that out into the imagine that

894
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:44.519
that like it's me listen, it's
always you're always gonna save time if the

895
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:50.199
fundamental number of like polygons is fewer
I suppose, but if you're going for

896
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.239
a style like it's always gonna take
time to get that style right with everything

897
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:58.480
you build, so there's always some
level of difficulty involved, if folks,

898
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.840
I'm also glad that this our salary, this look of new Nintendo sixty four

899
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:08.039
games is, or like new PS
one looking games is being slowly taken away

900
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:14.159
from the horror genre because I feel
like I've built up negative associations now because

901
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:17.599
every other indie horror game I will
see blow up on Steam or on Twitch

902
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.360
is just looks like a PS one
game. If folks want to check out

903
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:27.320
another game that is similar to or
Suter Regalia but completely different game. Anodyne

904
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:32.079
two looks like a PS one game, very fun looking. Ah. We

905
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:37.440
were talking about customizing parts earlier with
forts or Forts of Motorsport, just like

906
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:45.559
Grub Mike and myself have been customizing
parts in Armored Course six. That's a

907
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:52.000
game that's a video game. Grub
Your enthusiasm and Dan's enthusiasm got me to

908
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.960
kick back in. Yeah, so
like because you you did the quick look

909
01:02:55.039 --> 01:03:00.119
for us, and I'm like interested, like to hear like what you're like

910
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:05.360
your second round has been like the
second round. I think I've been more

911
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.559
understanding, I guess, And I
think like playing it with the time crunch

912
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:15.960
of trying to get the quick look
out by a certain date colored my opinion

913
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:21.960
poorly of the game. But man, this game like just just fucks yes,

914
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.760
it does. I also think I
was approaching it in a different style

915
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.320
than how I would want to play
it because I was equipping two guns versus

916
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.719
like a gun and a melee weapon. And I think like I eventually shied

917
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.360
away from her, deviated away from
that because the two gun thing was what

918
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:42.119
I used to get through a lot
of the harder bosses in the game,

919
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:46.239
specifically the one at chapter one I
had to use like two plasma rifles,

920
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:52.000
but then I eventually stuck with a
plasma rifle or like the plasma gun that

921
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.599
looks like a satellite dish, and
then just just got the big punchy nail

922
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:01.760
thing. Yeah. I just love
that the pause gun is the one that

923
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.119
looks the satellite dish. I think, yes, yes, yeah, okay,

924
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:10.440
yes, that's like for one thing, like once you start recognizing that

925
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:13.719
certain enemies do have certain weaknesses and
some of these weapons work better, that's

926
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:17.639
a that's a huge important thing for
sure. But like going in there and

927
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.559
just like seeing if like your default
guy is gonna work is still a lot

928
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:23.559
of fun. And uh, I
don't know it. For me, it's

929
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:28.119
just the the atmosphere and how much
fun it is to actually move around and

930
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:30.559
fight these bosses and uh and for
like I was telling this to mikel like

931
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.440
this is what I want boss fights
to be these days. I like,

932
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:38.519
and I don't think this like Final
Fantasy six Team does not compare favorably to

933
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.280
this where it's like, hey,
we're gonna make this so easy. These

934
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:44.320
checkpoints are gonna be halfway through the
fight, You're like, don't worry,

935
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.400
We're gonna give you all your stuff
back, like you just want you to

936
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.840
yes, we just want you to
succeed. And it's like I want to

937
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:56.039
feel the I want to overcome something
and and armor Cores six is definitely definitely

938
01:04:56.119 --> 01:05:00.159
that. But I yeah, I
just think that that segment where you fight

939
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:03.360
all those invisible next that first time, and it recognized like, oh man,

940
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.000
what's what's happened? Like, oh, I'm being ambushed, Like this

941
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:10.280
is about me, Like I've been
messing stuff up so much. They specifically

942
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:14.039
want to take me out. And
it's like you get cornered and then you

943
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:15.440
turn around and it's like okay,
I'm gonna fight my way out. I

944
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:19.280
just felt so cool. It's like
my probably my gaming movement moment of the

945
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:25.480
year so far. Yes, it's
it was really powerful stuff. But I

946
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:30.280
have been having that bug where I
lost a lot of progress. How many

947
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:34.639
many hours? I think? Okay, so actually I'm got to overstated when

948
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:38.920
I said, but it's at least
eight hours of progress, a lot of

949
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.599
total and total across like three times
when this bug has hit me. So

950
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:44.840
there's a bug. There was a
bug with the game. People are think

951
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:49.079
it might be fixed now where if
you are using Steam and you have the

952
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:54.559
Steam saves turned on and uh and
then you know whatever, you you go

953
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:58.880
like you load up the game,
it might be overrun writing your current local

954
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.519
save with an older Cloud save.
And now that this was probably not be

955
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:05.280
so much of an issue if I
was just playing on my PC, but

956
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:09.440
I'm playing on the ally, which
it doesn't do great with, like going

957
01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:11.480
into hibernation mode. When you hit
the power button, You're like, oh,

958
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.000
I'm gonna turn it off. Like
it's a Steam deck, I can

959
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.360
just turned off and ring it back
or like a switch. I'll just hit

960
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:16.320
the button and I'll bring it back
later and finish it. Most of the

961
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:18.280
time it works, but every once
in a while it's like, oh,

962
01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:21.000
no, all this got fucked up. We or we wanted to restart this

963
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:26.159
thing for good reasons. I swear
we're windows. And then I get back

964
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.000
in the game and I'm all right, let's go. I hit the button

965
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.880
and it's it's like no, actually, you need to like go back three

966
01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:33.440
hours, and like the Lettel times, I'm like oh and I'm like,

967
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:35.119
oh, I'm right there, right, It's like, no, I had

968
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:38.800
to do one mission, then I
had to do all the arena stuff I

969
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.199
already did, and then there was
three more missions after that, and I'm

970
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:46.559
like halfway through getting back the like
for the third time. It's at least

971
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:48.480
it's a very good game, so
I want to keep playing it. But

972
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:51.800
boy, that that last time it
happened was very, very frustrating, so

973
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:56.440
I like had taken steps to avoid
that. I turned the Steam saved thing

974
01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:00.239
off now, so apparently that will
fix it, I guess, but you

975
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:03.039
know, and shame on me after
three times, I guess, but you

976
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:08.320
know, shame on me for thinking
games should work from always a little bit

977
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:12.800
weird with their PC ports just always
not quite there. So uh, I

978
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:15.559
guess I should have learned a lesson
at some point. But yeah, hey,

979
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:16.679
this is still one of my favorite
games of the year even despite all

980
01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:21.639
that. What's the met composition looking
like grub? Yeah? So I usually

981
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:25.559
I would try to go light,
and I definitely I like to have a

982
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:30.039
melee weapon, and then I probably
will try to have either I like the

983
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.039
laser handgun actually, because that's a
light weapon and it does enough damage just

984
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:38.400
to or at least like does it
helps get you stagger at the very least.

985
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:41.199
And then the shoulder will be might
be a laser all like a laser

986
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:44.760
cannon on the shoulder, and then
like a big old ballistic missile thing on

987
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.440
the other shoulder. And that's that's
been good. But a lot of times

988
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.079
I'm like, okay, I needs
I do need something bigger and heavier,

989
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:54.440
uh, something that's more resilient.
And then I will go with the tetra

990
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:58.000
legs and I'll be floating above and
I'll just have two big guns and then

991
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:01.440
like like those big greendade launchers on
the shoulder. That's been great as well,

992
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:05.400
it's been very useful. I eventually
settled on a dual gatling gun for

993
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:10.320
like my main arms, and then
it was just kind of using those really

994
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.639
heavy grenade launchers. When you get
deeper into the game, like you really

995
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:16.760
do not need any like those multi
spread, multi lock on missile things.

996
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:19.720
Like the idea of like like fights
where you have to fight a lot of

997
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:24.840
small things just become pretty trivial after
a while. You really want to spec

998
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.199
entirely for those big one on one
fights. Oh yeah, totally yes,

999
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:30.600
but it's either way. It's it's
fun to mess around with a bunch of

1000
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.239
different belts as well. I was. I was happy not to get like

1001
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:38.239
pigeonholed into any one concept of what
the mex should be. So it's nicely

1002
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.560
you can sell your part. If
you buy something, you can sell it

1003
01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:44.920
up prices, so it's not a
commitment. Yep, absolutely, Greby.

1004
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.600
I think you nailed something when you
were with a comparison of F sixteen where

1005
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:54.600
Armor Core six really handles scale of
boss sizes really well. And I think

1006
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.359
it's just because it's just you still
have all of the tools that you have

1007
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:02.399
from navigating the levels, but with
like these big bosses, but with big

1008
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:10.039
big boys varying sizes and degrees or
not even big boys, but just like

1009
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:15.039
in terms of scale of attacks,
right like uh, like here's just some

1010
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.960
a thousand missiles and you're not going
to be able to avoid all of them.

1011
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:20.680
Yeah, this is a big thing
I had to learn, is like

1012
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:25.000
this isn't necessarily sec row or it's
like anytime I'm taking damage, it's the

1013
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:27.159
end of the world. It's like, no, this is like a family,

1014
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:30.600
Yes, you need it's a war
of attrition here, you need to

1015
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:33.600
be able to withstand some damage.
Sometimes I have to ask for the folks

1016
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:40.520
that are watching live or the archive
with New Game Plus, because I'm very

1017
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:45.840
curious about this, and I've heard
some rumblings. Are you just rolling through

1018
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.920
with your existing tool set? Do
you does it get easier? Does it

1019
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:54.399
get harder? Or what is what? What? What is happening there you

1020
01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:57.399
I haven't messed around with a New
Game Plus much myself. I'm kind of

1021
01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:00.159
interested too, because I know there's
multip dings, but I didn't know if

1022
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:03.439
there's like much else to it sites
from just getting those different endings. And

1023
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:06.439
you see different boss fights too as
you kind of go down those routes,

1024
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:10.680
so it'd be interesting. There's just
a lot to play. So it's hard

1025
01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:14.000
to be like, let's play through
this game again now, because you know,

1026
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:16.920
I gotta beat Starfield still. There's
a much other stuff coming out,

1027
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:21.119
and I still want to play boulders
Gate three. It's it's difficult of I'm

1028
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:25.399
gonna beat this game two more times
now. Yeah, people people in chat

1029
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:27.960
are saying that there's a there's a
lot of new stuff in New Game Plus,

1030
01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:30.560
and you want to see that stuff
you want to see that stuff.

1031
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.520
Yeah, And the thing is I'm
enjoying my time. That my problem still

1032
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:38.840
persists is like my own physical limitations
of my hands getting very tired playing this

1033
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:44.840
game, because like I'm hitting every
single button all the time, but I

1034
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.199
do feel good doing it, you
know. It's like, all right,

1035
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:50.520
do you have like an Elite controller
or anything like that, anything with a

1036
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:55.920
back button? Uh No, I've
just been using like the dual sense with

1037
01:10:56.079 --> 01:11:00.119
it. But maybe maybe I could
should get like an Elite controller with the

1038
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.159
little back button because I'm like,
I'm like, I haven't done it on

1039
01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:04.439
the Ally because it has two back
buttons. I'm like, I should set

1040
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:10.840
those up as as the the like
secondary triggers up here so that I can

1041
01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:13.760
be doing both at the same time
without having to get both hands up on

1042
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.119
top of the ally, which is
actually relatively uncomfortable for me, both fingers

1043
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:18.359
up there. And it's like I
do that sometimes, like when I have

1044
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:21.560
to, or I'm like doing like
these weird like I'll bring my thumb up

1045
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.840
for a second and hit the button
because I'm like I just need this weapon

1046
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:29.039
to go off now and nothing else
matters. And very few games we put

1047
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:31.239
you in that situation. This is
definitely one of those, though well armored.

1048
01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:35.800
Core six apparently is a giant fucking
game, just like Starfield is a

1049
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:43.840
giant fucking game. Boys been biting
his time, no, so it's all

1050
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:46.319
good. We we chatted briefly about
Starfield, not even briefly. We spent

1051
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:50.880
a good like chunk of time chatting
about Starfield in my hotel room with Grub,

1052
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:56.159
Mike Tam and Lucy Backlar. You
got any thoughts on Starfield? You

1053
01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:03.239
like it, you join your time
in space? So I played like I

1054
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:09.239
played like ten hours of it before
I left for vacation and did not think

1055
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:15.800
about that game at all while I
was away, So that means that it

1056
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:21.000
didn't really stay with me. I
think Starfield is fine. I think it

1057
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:29.359
is like the most polished, impressive
version of like that legacy Bethez the thing

1058
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.760
right. I think it is very
much kind of like stuck in a time

1059
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:44.920
that is before us, and I
don't think there's a lot that is great

1060
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:49.479
on the surface. I think,
you know, I've enjoyed time with it,

1061
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:56.680
but I also am not engaged with
the thing it presents you at the

1062
01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:01.279
start. I think the main story
the whole that whole thing is very underwhelming.

1063
01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:06.119
And I here have started to hear
people say like, well, the

1064
01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:11.279
main line is garbage, and I
just don't understand why that's okay. I

1065
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:15.520
don't understand why everyone's like, well, look, the main thing is really

1066
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:17.439
not fun, but it's all the
other stuff. And I'm like, that's

1067
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:21.680
cool. But I go to the
restaurant for the dinner, I don't go

1068
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:28.439
for like the bread that they serve
or the appetizing. I don't go to

1069
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.399
cheesecake factory. But you but you
understand my point? Okay, Actually no,

1070
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.399
I kind of don't because that that's
I definitely never did the main thing

1071
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:38.359
in Skyrim, and I played that
game for hundred Yeah. No, Like,

1072
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:45.000
again, that's fine, you could
theoretically only eat bread and have appetizing.

1073
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.560
I don't think that's bread. I
think that's the main thing. That's

1074
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.560
what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, all right, yeah, I mean,

1075
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.279
because it's the sandbox is what I'm
going there for now. I don't

1076
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:58.760
know if Starfield does that stuff as
well. Uh, And I do think

1077
01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:02.000
the main thing actually gets interesting after
some time, so uh, and I'm

1078
01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.439
not I'm not going to tell anybody
to like, hey, get through this

1079
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:06.600
stuff. You're not liking to get
to that good stuff. No, it's

1080
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:10.600
put it down if you're not enjoying
it. Yeah, for sure, Like

1081
01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:15.560
I found that abandoned space casino,
right, yeah, and I thought that

1082
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.239
was a neat moment. I just
don't. I think the exploration in this

1083
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:26.119
game is very bad. I think
it is just not a like, I

1084
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.880
don't know, I wanted to scratch
that kind of itch. And again that

1085
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000
also comes from the way it was
kind of presented, right, Like I

1086
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:34.920
didn't just come up with that idea
myself and be like, hey, this

1087
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.800
is probably a great game to explore, Like, No, that was shoved

1088
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:42.720
down everyone's throat. Oh yeah,
I think that's problems. Yeah. So

1089
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:45.640
like my biggest disappointment for sure,
exactly. And you know, I wanted

1090
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:49.399
to get lost in that kind of
thing, you know. I know people

1091
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:54.520
are really bummed out with how like
none it's all sort of like smoking mirrors,

1092
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:56.479
the space travel stuff, and it's
like, all right, well,

1093
01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:58.520
you know video games are hard,
Like what do you want me to tell

1094
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.199
you? Like, you know you
can still land anywhere you want on the

1095
01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:06.239
on the fucking planet. Yeah,
I you know, it's just I I

1096
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:13.000
think it came in exactly how I
thought it would. I started to get

1097
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:17.359
really excited about this game after that
first forty minute thing that they showed,

1098
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:21.199
Right, I wasn't excited, Right, it was really good they did over

1099
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:26.039
right. That's the thing that pushed
me over from like I'll play it when

1100
01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:30.880
it's here till like I'm now casually
interested in this thing. And I think

1101
01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.920
that has kind of all evaporated,
all but evaporated. I don't know if

1102
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:40.159
I'm going to be going back to
this game simply because there are there are

1103
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:45.319
two incredibly anticipated games that are coming
out very soon, Wonder and Alan Lake

1104
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:50.399
two. And that's when Spider get
yeah, you know, and Spider Man

1105
01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:58.199
as well, So those I get
it. Yep. Those three games for

1106
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:01.880
me are is the tribune well that
I care about for the second half of

1107
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:06.039
twenty twenty three. That's what I'm
looking for. Alan Wake is a very

1108
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:10.039
big deal to me. I'm a
horror freak. I want that so bad.

1109
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:13.880
And you know, Starfield for me
is just kind of gonna be in

1110
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:15.880
the rear view for a little bit. I think, I think, and

1111
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.000
I think that this is what I've
said to Mike where I'm like, I'm

1112
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:21.960
kind of over listening to people talk
about Starfield because everything that everyone says about

1113
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.560
it is right, Like, yes, if you are that experience that you

1114
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:29.680
had back art is definitely in that
game. And uh, I've been able

1115
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:31.760
to find some fun, but I
had to get over some of my disappointments

1116
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:36.239
and meet the game where it's at. And it's been uh down that point

1117
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:40.199
wherever I'm whenever I pick it up, I'm usually having a good time because

1118
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:44.159
I know where the fun is now. Yeah, but having but again,

1119
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:45.760
I'm like, that is it's it's
hard for me to say that and the

1120
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.399
like may not make it sound like, well, so no, now you

1121
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:51.840
need to go find that fun.
No, don't, definitely don't. It's

1122
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.319
you know, I just think like
from a fundamental point of view of like,

1123
01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:00.880
you start the game and you wanted
to be interesting, right, it's

1124
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:05.119
not there. It starts off incredibly
weak, and I just I can't rab

1125
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:09.600
my head around that. I just
don't. I don't get it. I

1126
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:14.439
don't get it. Uh. You
know, like you you you start with

1127
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:16.600
your banger, right, you start
with the finale is like a thing you

1128
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:20.640
hear a lot. You want that
engagement right away. Suck me the prestige,

1129
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:26.000
yourestige men. You know, we
have a lot of memes about starting

1130
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:28.640
in that wagon and sky because people
remember that. I don't think we're gonna

1131
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:32.279
see a lot of people talk about
remember when you started minds in a case,

1132
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:38.720
Remember when you wear a fucking elevator
for forty eight seconds and the whole,

1133
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:42.279
like the whole. I think their
their idea was that, well,

1134
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.319
that's not really the coming out of
the or like the wagon moment, it's

1135
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:47.840
not really the coming out of the
vault moment, Like that's gonna happen way

1136
01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:50.439
later than you expect. And it
does happen way later than you expect.

1137
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:55.760
But even some of that stuff is
slightly subdued because the subject matter that they're

1138
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:59.119
tackling is one that has been being
tackled by a lot of different stuff right

1139
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:00.600
now. Yeah, extra, I
don't want to talk about that because the

1140
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:05.319
spoilers. But there's a twist and
I was just like christ and I think

1141
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:09.760
it's easy to get turned off,
you know again, like when I've played

1142
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:13.119
Skyrim two, I was also you
know, what, what is that fifteen

1143
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:16.640
twenty years old? It's eleven years
old now, yeah, left, okay,

1144
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:19.880
sorry, start to age all of
us collectively. Yeah, Like I

1145
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.520
was in a different place in my
life when I was thirty. Uh so

1146
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:27.000
that's fine, But like, uh, you know, I think there's like

1147
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.920
so much you know, I want
to I want I want to be walking

1148
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.840
up a hill pushing like a light
load. I don't want to have to

1149
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:38.239
like really dig into the ground and
like be encumbered and that, and like

1150
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:45.119
the fact that you literally are pushing
against so many of this game's mechanics so

1151
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:47.840
early on. Right, Yeah,
it almost it's like gets in the it's

1152
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:50.760
it gets in its own way for
me a lot, especially, And the

1153
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:54.840
encumberance is a real thing too.
Like, you know, four hours in,

1154
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.359
I'm like juggling thirty eight thousand things
that I've found, and I'm just

1155
01:18:58.479 --> 01:19:01.560
like, what the fuck am I
doing? Yeah? What is it?

1156
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:04.560
The game? The game? I
mean, I like games to push back

1157
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:08.800
against you. The game is trying
to tell you stop picking up everything,

1158
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.359
but it's hard not to. I
get it exactly, Like, give me

1159
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:15.239
all of the ducks. I need
them. Looks great, The game looks

1160
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:17.239
great. I love just like I
love like going in and out of the

1161
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:19.960
space maps. I love I don't
think I show. The thing you've said

1162
01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:26.079
is like negative. Yeah, like
I showed like properly diagnosed. I freaked

1163
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:28.520
out did because he saw Earth all
fucked up. He's like, why is

1164
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.279
Earth like that? I'm like,
well, buddy, getting sorry, you

1165
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:35.039
got some bad news. Fuckle up, my friend, because let Disney win.

1166
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:43.479
This is what's gonna happen. That's
Disney fails timeline, this anti Disney

1167
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:47.319
propaganda. I'm pretty intrigued by the
main storyline at this point, even though

1168
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:49.840
like that I kind of had a
similar reaction to Mike where he's like,

1169
01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:54.359
oh Jesus were doing this the way
that you interact with it is I'm like,

1170
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:56.960
oh, okay. That is still
is kind of different than all these

1171
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:00.600
other things, and it has implications
for yeah, even more of those coming

1172
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:04.800
out of the Vault moments that I'm
looking forward to, and they give you

1173
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:09.199
some answers about what happened to Earth
and like who's responsible, and that stuff

1174
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:18.319
is pretty interesting as well done.
Breath just draws a couple of three circles

1175
01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:23.079
in the sand right a lifetime,
But I'll like, this is a game

1176
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:26.640
that, like almost any reaction to
it's not gonna matter it's just gonna be

1177
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:30.199
its own thing. It's its own
genre and and people are I mean,

1178
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:32.119
I'll come back to it after I've
been done with this play through and a

1179
01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:34.039
couple of years to play with a
bunch of mods, and it will be

1180
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:38.159
something different. So yeah, see, I'm just yeah, I guess that's

1181
01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:40.760
like I'm never gonna play with mods. I never have any interest in that

1182
01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:44.279
stuff. And I don't know,
I'm having a really hard time parsing my

1183
01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:46.399
thoughts and skiing because I keep going
back to it. I enjoy playing it,

1184
01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:50.239
and then it just like a million
things come at me that annoy me.

1185
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:55.640
Uh just you know, the general
jinkiness and kind of ugliness of the

1186
01:20:55.760 --> 01:21:00.840
game is like a disappointing problem.
Still, the lack of like the role

1187
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:03.319
playing, how rigid it is with
how it wants me to do quest is

1188
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.720
like, I know because the games
have been like that, but I'm still

1189
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:10.560
kind of always shocked when I get
back. So I'm like, man,

1190
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:14.039
it's weird how there is only one
or two ways to do this game,

1191
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:16.720
even though it's like, you know, here's your fifty different skills and backgrounds,

1192
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:19.399
and Okay, this isn't a game
that's going to account for all those

1193
01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:23.199
I am still going to have to. You know, I can't just be

1194
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:25.520
like I'm going to be the good
guy and I'm not going to commit crimes.

1195
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.840
Well, the storyline's gonna make me
commit a crime whether I want to

1196
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:31.520
or not, and like the game's
gonna have like its reasons for doing that.

1197
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:34.800
And you know, I could kind
of ease up and meet the game

1198
01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:39.479
halfway, and when I do,
I am generally probably happier for it.

1199
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:42.840
But yeah, just always feels like, like, why is there no map?

1200
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:47.560
Why do I companions kind of talk
with the maps? Maps, don't

1201
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:54.800
worry backguard the map discourse has happened. They're not They're not good. I

1202
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:59.479
don't know why. I just I
don't know. I don't know bad.

1203
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.439
Truly baffling on a level that I
can remember. You can talk about it

1204
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:06.920
like the local maps or the space
map. Anytime there's a map aside from

1205
01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:11.479
the space map space map is that
there's not a map for like local stuff,

1206
01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:16.439
but there's just sort of like a
sun dial or something. It's I

1207
01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.840
like because the worlds are designed in
such a way where it's like there are

1208
01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:23.720
signs that tell you where to go
and like that's pretty good. I can

1209
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:28.600
find my way like a map,
actually a map would still be night Like

1210
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:34.000
it's the future. We're the good
maps all implanted in here. Baby,

1211
01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:40.520
you know it's all about exploration.
Well yo, if anything, Man,

1212
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:45.279
what a fucking game for game pass? Huh yeah it's gonna it's still gonna

1213
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:47.520
be fine for that. Yeah,
sure, Like the still feel like I

1214
01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:50.680
know it's not. But every time
I hear that, it's just like disingenuous

1215
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:55.960
about it. When I hear people
say no, no, likeely can't accompliment.

1216
01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:59.399
Yeah, like I genuinely mean it, because like I'm just thinking from

1217
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:06.199
with all the games that are coming
out and uh younger Jan already combined with

1218
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:11.760
my current poor spending habits uh and
and buying various popcorn buckets of like,

1219
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:14.039
man, I really want to play
this game. I really want to play

1220
01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:15.640
that game. Oh shit, I'm
not gonna be able to play this,

1221
01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:20.039
but like fuck man, game pass
all right, dial in for like looking

1222
01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:25.000
for look a game that just has
so much stuff, just all the stuff?

1223
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:28.520
Right? Yeah you can build,
Yeah, you could build outposts.

1224
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:30.199
Why I don't know, doesn't seem
like I need to do that at all?

1225
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.960
You can build all these outposts,
I guess, because I think the

1226
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:38.159
reason is some people like build not
posts to build out. But yeah,

1227
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:41.439
like the Freaks and Fallout that like
building stuff. I'm like, alright,

1228
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:45.920
alright, alright, you guys,
uh speaking about not being not super being

1229
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.920
into a game that everyone else is
super high on. And this is before

1230
01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:55.960
we'll get to Jeff Grubbs packs round
up, folks. I don't think I

1231
01:23:56.159 --> 01:24:00.039
like Sea of Stars. No,
okay, I don't. Also, I

1232
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.720
think Dan started it, and I
got the vote that it's not a Dan

1233
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:09.239
game. Come on, well,
it's a RPG. Of course he does

1234
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:12.600
know he likes Mario games, even
though this one is just literally that.

1235
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.600
But without Mario too much. Where's
Mario? He's not gonna have it,

1236
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:21.640
So what's wrong, Jane? I
just I don't know. I you know

1237
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:26.199
what Oto actually says it there.
I enjoyed Chained Echoes more than Sea of

1238
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:32.359
Stars indie RPG, yes, but
very different style of game. I don't

1239
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:34.960
know what it is about see Stars. That's just not grabbing me, because

1240
01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:40.600
I do enjoy like the act of
turn based combat that you get in the

1241
01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:45.920
Mario RPGs. Right, the paper
Mario's and all that jazz. But maybe

1242
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:51.800
I'm just not clicking with the story
at all or whatever, or the setting.

1243
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:56.359
Maybe I kind of want to be
a little bit more lazy with my

1244
01:24:56.720 --> 01:25:00.239
combat or something. But like I
just see every one else on the internet

1245
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:04.720
piping this up as like the second
coming of like a chrono trigger, and

1246
01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:09.840
I just do not feel that same
way. Uh. And like I've spent

1247
01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:13.159
time in it, y'all, I'm
not just like clocking out at like three

1248
01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:15.039
hours. We don't need Bailey here
to yell at you. We don't need

1249
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:18.319
to get Bailey here. Is this
for you but not for this this This

1250
01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:21.239
might be Bailey's busy wig, so
she can't come into here and yell at

1251
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:27.760
meh. But like, I don't
know. It also feels a little too

1252
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:30.880
easy in certain aspects, Like I
haven't died at all yet. And maybe

1253
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:36.800
I'm just a professional gamer when it
comes to RPGs or whatever, but I

1254
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:42.359
would. If you were not feeling
Sea of Stars, don't worry. I'm

1255
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:44.880
I'm right there next to you.
Friends. Yeah, if you're not feeling

1256
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:48.840
See Stars, you should feel bad. Your opinions are bad. Uh.

1257
01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:53.239
And I am personally met you and
we're enemy and how do you think Hollow

1258
01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:55.439
Night again? I can't remember.
Do you like Hollow Night? Why are

1259
01:25:55.479 --> 01:26:00.279
you doing that? I liked Hollow
Night? Yeah, okay there, Mike,

1260
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.560
Yeah, I like hollid Night.
Yeah that's fine, it's fine,

1261
01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:06.520
I get it. But I have
been really enjoying Sea of Stars. I

1262
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:13.920
think it's maybe the prettiest pixels,
absolutely gorgeous. Yeah. I think the

1263
01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:16.680
Messenger looked really good too. I
never like the Messenger actually, then,

1264
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:20.159
really, you've been afraid to tell
me that for like six years now.

1265
01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:23.680
Yeah, I really like that game. Yes, I was like it was

1266
01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:26.000
kind of I was like, oh
man, this should be my game,

1267
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:28.000
and it just never hit. And
I don't know what you like. I

1268
01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:30.039
got to the sixteen bit stuff and
it's just it's never hit. From fine,

1269
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:33.159
I like the Messenger. I like
this. I don't know. I

1270
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:36.399
like the common system is does have
that paper mino stuff, and it's also

1271
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:42.760
very I like how your regenerate Manna
by attacking so that you could actually use

1272
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:46.279
your abilities often. And it's not
just like a it's not a save these

1273
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:49.600
for the boss fights, and it's
also not well. The only way we

1274
01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:53.880
can think how to fix this is
just to refill your MP off every fight,

1275
01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:56.600
so it doesn't have to do that
really over the like you know,

1276
01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.159
the head with the hammer approach.
It's just like, I don't know,

1277
01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:01.800
just seems there's a good mix of
puzzles in the Dudgeons. Like some,

1278
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:06.479
especially the indie arpug is, always
go really too hard on that stuff and

1279
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:10.760
it becomes a bit much for me. It's a good mix of the combat.

1280
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.760
The story is paced really well so
far, which is another problem I

1281
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:17.079
think these indie RPGs often have where
they go way too heavy on it.

1282
01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:20.319
They're so proud of their lore.
They just want me to see all their

1283
01:27:20.439 --> 01:27:24.680
lore, and this game is letting
that stuff breathe a lot more for me.

1284
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:29.560
I'm glad you're enjoying it, Mike. I'm I'm not glad for you.

1285
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:30.760
I'm mad at you. But that's
no, it's mine, jan I

1286
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.000
don't care. I'm dying. I
want to let everyone know that I'm diving

1287
01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:39.640
into the soul cannon with my furry
children. All right, Oh cool?

1288
01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:42.359
Cool? Wait? Cool? That
game? Which game is this? Now?

1289
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:45.159
What? Oh? Oh game?
We're talking about a game? Oh

1290
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:47.840
sorry, sorry, it's different.
That's what he does after hours? Sure?

1291
01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:51.439
Yeah, sorry, not my time. I can't I can't, can't

1292
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:56.399
judge you for that. Yo.
Fuga two Fuga too, y'all. Man,

1293
01:27:57.159 --> 01:28:00.960
the ship's intense, y'all, I
will it's the one with the furry

1294
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:02.159
childre you're putting their souls in the
canon? Mike, what the hell?

1295
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:06.359
Catch up? This is what you're
playing instead of Star I think you might

1296
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:11.359
enjoy Fuga actually, dare you?
I think you would? I think you

1297
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:17.479
would? Uh? Dare you say
this about me? But not necessarily a

1298
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:23.960
game of the week, but we
have grubs, packs games, round trip,

1299
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:26.760
round up, round Up, round
trip, round Up. Here we

1300
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:30.159
go. Yeah, these are full
on furries. This isn't this is not

1301
01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:33.439
furry light on this Fuga two business
after Suda regalia. You may be all

1302
01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:35.720
the way in, buddy, Yeah, buddy, Hey listen, don't you

1303
01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:40.359
a big Donald Duck fan. He
doesn't wear pants either? All right?

1304
01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:44.920
So we talked about something. We
talked about supermar Brothers Wonder last week,

1305
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:47.279
But I played a whole bunch of
other stuff like Fake Goodness. You're here,

1306
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:51.000
which is that cartoon looking game?
Uh? That? Yeah? How's

1307
01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:55.760
that? It is? It's pretty
good. It's like the kind of thing

1308
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.520
where it's like, okay, hey, there's a problem. The water's not

1309
01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:00.760
coming out of the well. Well, I'm gonna over the well. Let's

1310
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:01.319
see if I can find with the
problem. And it's like, well,

1311
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:04.000
no, we can't see a problem. Maybe just jump down the well.

1312
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:06.159
And you jump down the well,
You're like, okay, I see the

1313
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:09.760
hose it's supposed to be coming out
of the well, and it leads to

1314
01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:12.439
somewhere else. So we're gonna explore
this place for like a little bit.

1315
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:15.239
But now we're gonna go to this
next screen and then this next screen and

1316
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:16.840
then the next screen. And it's
like it kind of like has jokes on

1317
01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:21.600
each one of these these sort of
cells and all that stuff is pretty good,

1318
01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:25.720
but I got the sense that the
jokes were not for me. They're

1319
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.159
from people from England. Wow.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, I

1320
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:32.119
get some of these, but some
of them I don't fully understand. So

1321
01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:35.199
I asked Tam and Lucy about it, and I asked Tam about it on

1322
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:38.479
Game This Mornings. I'm like,
hey, it seemed like they had a

1323
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:42.239
lot of jokes from the North,
which is like people like, hey,

1324
01:29:42.279 --> 01:29:45.239
the North Northern England has its own
culture and all that stuff. He's like,

1325
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:46.079
oh yeah, all that ship was
super hilarious. I got all that

1326
01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:48.079
stuff. It was very funny.
Me and Lucy were having a great time.

1327
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:53.760
Like okay, that's the sense I
got. But it is super charming.

1328
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:58.199
It has a great look, superstylized, but it's it's like an adventure

1329
01:29:58.239 --> 01:30:00.520
game, like you're you're gonna be
solving problems. The guyance asking for meat

1330
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:03.039
and a couple of screens back you
saw a store. It's like, you

1331
01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:06.399
know, Timmy's Meat's meat emporium and
you got to go back to the meat

1332
01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:13.760
store and go get meat from there. And that's something fun. That's wrong.

1333
01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:15.880
Yeah. I thought it was a
really good looking game and the humor

1334
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.680
it was even hitting for me.
I wish it was a bit more game

1335
01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:23.800
plays stuff in there, like I
don't know what that would even be.

1336
01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:26.960
You know. It run me an
untitled goose game right where it's like this

1337
01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:29.520
is like something you've experienced a little
bit. Right, It's almost like you

1338
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:32.479
perform and there's there's something too that
and I think it'll have its appeal.

1339
01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:35.159
I wouldn't be surprised for this game
that like blows up and like has a

1340
01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:39.880
big popularity with an audience that isn't
necessarily listening to this podcast, But I

1341
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.880
think at the very least it's going
to be an interesting one to keep it

1342
01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:46.239
look on gorgeous in its very good
shouts out the Harris Foster that we saw

1343
01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:49.079
playing next to us. Yes,
we give him some pointers, we give

1344
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:51.880
him some pro tips. I'm excited
for it, for sure, Yes,

1345
01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:55.039
And I think if you have any
excitement for it, I think that's stuffle

1346
01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:56.800
carry over into the game. You'll
probably have a good time with it.

1347
01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:00.079
So I wasn't around for your Wonder
Do you talked about Wonder at some point,

1348
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:08.079
So I think you and were gonna
have a great time. Like is

1349
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:14.640
gonna enjoy it so much? Yeah? You know, oh yeah, let's

1350
01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:16.680
go. Let's go. There's no
collision, but unless you want to be

1351
01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:20.239
Yoshi and then someone can ride on
Yoshi and all the power ups are cool

1352
01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:24.159
and all the Wonder Up upgrades that
do all these wild things. The level

1353
01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:30.640
you canna plays Daisy? Okay?
Ever, yeah, go ahead? Did

1354
01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:34.359
they explain why you don't play as
like the mainline toad? Like why are

1355
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:38.720
you like the blue toad? And
stopped doing that? In the New Super

1356
01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:41.840
Mario Brothers games, because the mainlight
tone is just also sort of red,

1357
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:45.840
and that's already Mario's color, so
that's why they did yellow and blue,

1358
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.880
which weren't taking colors yet. I
think those two just then became kind of

1359
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:53.800
like the two dy Mario toads.
Okay, okay, I think that sounds

1360
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:59.960
right. Thank you, Mike,
Welcome back, super Let's go. It's

1361
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:01.840
it's definitely like my most anticipated game
now. It was. Yeah, I'm

1362
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:09.399
very excited, very excited. I
played Alien Hominid Invasion for a very brief

1363
01:32:09.399 --> 01:32:13.279
amount of time and if people don't, Alien Hominid was like that old New

1364
01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:16.079
Grounds flash game. And then they
put out Alien Homedated for yeah, from

1365
01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:19.079
Bits Behemoth Studios, who's always at
packs. They had a booth here,

1366
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:23.560
and then you know, they did
a GameCube version of like a real game,

1367
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:26.920
and it still is pretty much that
game. Are there's some the co

1368
01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:30.560
op you know, where like you're
going through the campaign together and that's pretty

1369
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:32.479
cool, but it's still like you
know, little alien big guns shooting a

1370
01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:35.600
bunch of guys coming out on screen. Maybe there's a vehicle segment, and

1371
01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:39.720
when you're shooting a gun, maybe
sometimes the gun is so big that when

1372
01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:42.119
you shoot it down, it actually
shoots you up in the air, and

1373
01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:44.560
it's like it's it's that game still, and it's like, I wonder if

1374
01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:46.239
there's still a place for it.
But it's like I didn't hate what I

1375
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:48.760
played. I'm like, no,
I'd liked Alien Hominid. Part part of

1376
01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:51.520
me's like, yeah, I make
this so that you can make castle Crushers

1377
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:54.920
too next, and I feel like
I kind of think I would prefer castle

1378
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:57.239
Crushes too. Yeah, yeah,
what would that even be? No,

1379
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:01.439
you could kind of get away with
doing that, but more like we had

1380
01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:05.800
better tools now and you probably maybe
Behemoth has better resources. They can kind

1381
01:33:05.800 --> 01:33:09.520
of soup that up a bit.
I mean they were already had a pretty

1382
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:12.960
good starting point with the first Castle
Crashers. Yeah, like that. That

1383
01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:15.600
was like an early beat them up. That's like, oh, this has

1384
01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:18.039
more ideas of what it can be
and stuff because there's harpg mechanics in it.

1385
01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:23.359
It was a lot of unlockable characters. That was just throwing Tears of

1386
01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:26.920
the Kingdom powers into Castle Crashers too. There you go, perfect, Yes,

1387
01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:31.199
everything. Me and Mike played Tech
and eight. It was that was

1388
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:34.600
a lot of fun. We swapped
some wins in there. I can't remember

1389
01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:39.039
who I played as. Mostly I
remember you beating me up as the rest

1390
01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:43.560
of change a lot of fun.
I have not played tech and much,

1391
01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:45.520
so I'm excited to really dive into
it with this one. Even already,

1392
01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:50.479
like there's on on screen props explaining
how to do some basic stuff and even

1393
01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:55.399
some fancy stuff, and I was
already chaining together some moves that looks pretty

1394
01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:59.479
cool. It was very fun,
very good looking game. I'm really excited

1395
01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:01.439
to get some more tech and time
in. Yes, and it's like it's

1396
01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:03.640
still very much tech in. It's
like, hey, you were going to

1397
01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:09.159
be doing these big long combos to
basically taking turns beating each other up,

1398
01:34:09.439 --> 01:34:13.039
and uh, there's definitely a space
for that these days where it's like,

1399
01:34:13.079 --> 01:34:15.359
you know, you got Street Fighter
like doing its thing, and and there's

1400
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:18.880
a handful of other fighting games that
are ongoing concerns, and it's like techn

1401
01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:21.520
it needs to be one because it
is a different change of pace. It's

1402
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.760
like a three actual three D fighter
where you can move around in three D

1403
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:27.079
space, where like we actually don't
have a ton of those anymore. So

1404
01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:31.479
it was frual Fighter breaking back,
debt or alive. I've been on a

1405
01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:38.520
weird debt or alive kick we know
or alive you know about being debtor alive.

1406
01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:42.800
I want a new debt or alive
and not voluable a one necessarily badminton,

1407
01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:45.960
just two more big boy boxing.
It's like a punch out. Like

1408
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:49.920
I had a real tough time with
it, where it's like it was it

1409
01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.079
might have been up you know,
I was on the show floor and I

1410
01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:55.720
was like half listening to the game
but also listening to all this stuff around

1411
01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:58.600
me, and so there's maybe there
was more audio cues, but it was

1412
01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:00.079
very hard to get the time into
like when I was going to be attacked,

1413
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:02.720
and the one boss that I was
going against was someone who was like,

1414
01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:05.680
hey, I'm up here fighting,
but no, no, like,

1415
01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:09.000
don't look over there. There's actually
a guy that's gonna pop off the side

1416
01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.119
of the screen and punch you,
like with a stick. And then there

1417
01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:14.720
might be a guy that comes down
from the top and comes out of nowhere,

1418
01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:17.600
and it's like, I guess Punchot's
always had its gimmick characters, but

1419
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:20.640
they didn't. They were never that
gimmicked to the point where it's like oh,

1420
01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:24.319
I was never going to see that
the first time. I was never

1421
01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:27.359
going to be ready for that the
first time. And so it's like,

1422
01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:30.359
I'm maybe it feels a little cheap, Maybe it feels like a little bit

1423
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:32.439
like I don't necessarily think that's in
the spirit of punch Out, but I

1424
01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:35.760
need more time with it to know
for sure. I'll say that it looks

1425
01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:41.039
really good. This is a It
looks just like punch Out, but with

1426
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:45.800
a pixelated's super well animated take on
that. And I like all that stuff

1427
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:51.560
like in motion and gifts in video. It looks fantastic, but just the

1428
01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:56.760
feel wasn't right. But I'm someone
who has now done some speed runs for

1429
01:35:56.800 --> 01:35:59.640
punch Out, so maybe my brain
is poisoned and I was never going to

1430
01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:01.640
be able to get it. You're
an expert now. That suffer for a

1431
01:36:01.720 --> 01:36:04.479
lot of people, And like I
notice for you too, and I'm kind

1432
01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:09.560
of there with you. And like
when you do like the spiritual successor game,

1433
01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:12.319
like you better be pretty close.
Like there's been so many as I've

1434
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.800
tried to be Tony s pro skater, and like if it's just slowly off,

1435
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:18.039
it's like up up, it's ruin
throwing the garbage right exactly, like

1436
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:24.119
yeah yah yahku lele uh, what's
it called ukulele? Thank you? Like

1437
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:26.520
that one, it's i think like
the best example of that where it's like,

1438
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.479
oh, it just didn't quite feel
right and wasn't quite there. And

1439
01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:32.399
I'm getting similar vibes with Big Boy
Boxing, but again just a quick play

1440
01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:35.760
session on the show floor. How
do you feel about the life bar being

1441
01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:41.800
displayed versus kind of just anticipating the
end, right, So so it's it's

1442
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:44.560
weird because it's like it doesn't like
they have a life bar, but I

1443
01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:48.720
think you have this h like three
hits in your down like no matter what.

1444
01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:51.760
And it's like that also is weird. So it's like it doesn't feel

1445
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:55.960
even which you know, for it's
weird as punch Out is it always felt

1446
01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:59.000
like, oh, this is a
fair fight, like I we basically have

1447
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:00.920
the same upies in the same sort
of life, and it's like, that's

1448
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:04.000
not how it feels here, So
I'm gonna need more time with it.

1449
01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:09.520
My first my first impression though,
wasn't the best basically, and then Mina

1450
01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:13.279
the hollower, I actually got a
chance to go like they had didn't have

1451
01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:15.000
anything on the show floor. But
I saw the team there at the hotel

1452
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:16.359
we were at and there like,
hey, we got it upstairs. And

1453
01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:18.680
when I come to see I'm like, yes please, and I so yeah.

1454
01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:21.159
I went upstairs and checked it out. And this is an update to

1455
01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:25.439
the demo that I played like the
very early demo I played like a year

1456
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:29.239
ago, and it still feels fantastic. Men. Know. The Hollower is

1457
01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:31.840
the new game from the shovel Night
Team Club, Yeah, yacht Club games,

1458
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:34.680
and it's your hotel back lards.
This is different. I got it,

1459
01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:40.520
uh, and it's it's the plays
a little mouse that can burrow underground.

1460
01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:43.119
That's what makes her the Hollower.
And when you burrow underground, she

1461
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:45.279
going into it for so long and
then she pops out, and then she

1462
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:47.279
pops out so much. She's gonna
jump over stuff, and then you get

1463
01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:50.600
in this this habit of I'm just
gonna borrow everywhere, and then if I

1464
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:54.359
see a jump or an enemy or
an obstacle, I'm just gonna jump over

1465
01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:58.399
it and keep going and start borrowing
again immediately. And I was I think

1466
01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:02.720
it feels fantastic. I was going
through a relatively late proportion of the game,

1467
01:38:03.079 --> 01:38:06.319
and the enemies were pretty tough.
These A lot of the battles were

1468
01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:09.720
really tough. But it's like,
oh no, this is stuff where I

1469
01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:13.439
am moving around so fast and I
am I'm getting I'm popping out out of

1470
01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:17.399
the ground doing attack, tried to
avoid them getting back underground, popping up,

1471
01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:21.199
going out somewhere else, like just
quickly evading to safety because the whole

1472
01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:25.199
screen is filled with enemies and then
once I get somewhere safe, I pop

1473
01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:28.000
back out I might need to heal, and then I get right back into

1474
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:30.600
the fight, and that flow felt
really good. There was a cool boss

1475
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:34.720
segment where I had this big,
super powerful secondary weapon where I'm like,

1476
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:38.760
okay, I need to just find
the right time to use that and throw

1477
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:41.399
it into this big enemy's eye.
And you know, it's a it's a

1478
01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:45.680
modern day links Awakening Zelda game,
and with all that might and tail in

1479
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:48.000
terms of upgrades to how you move
around the world, and so it was

1480
01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:49.880
always going to be good for me. But I think this is one what

1481
01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:53.680
it's like, Hey, we're a
spiritual successor and we're doing a lot more

1482
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:56.319
on top of that, and I'm
like, that's another good way of doing

1483
01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:59.079
one of these and I'm really in
favor of all the stuff that they're doing

1484
01:38:59.159 --> 01:39:05.159
that is on top this ya,
and I still like such a seminal.

1485
01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:08.840
It's like the best of all those
people who try to make games, like,

1486
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:11.520
well, what if they make but
a game that's like an eight bag

1487
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:15.600
game likes the best the best usially
of this, and I think I think

1488
01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:17.720
that this is a great follow up
in terms of like, hey, what

1489
01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:21.079
if we did a game Boy Color
game that's a lot like those game Boy

1490
01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:25.279
Color or you know, game Boy
Zelda games. Yeah, I'm all in

1491
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:28.640
favor of that. But that's that
was my packs round up. Those are

1492
01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:32.520
the games I played. I we
also saw a game that looks like Episode

1493
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.640
one Racer, and I didn't get
a chance to play that, but I

1494
01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:39.680
really wanted to seem pretty early on
development, but yes it did. Yeah,

1495
01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:43.600
but it's really good. Now this
is pod racing jokes that wearing Oh

1496
01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:45.079
right, yeah, yeah, okay, I remember, I remember, Yeah,

1497
01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:47.279
I wanted to play it, but
then like we were doing the floor

1498
01:39:47.800 --> 01:39:50.800
tour and it's like it was taking
a long time, so I just spending

1499
01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:55.920
that's a good trick. I played
a crane game and I won dice from

1500
01:39:55.960 --> 01:40:00.039
it. Person Mike played a kind
of a crane game and one pizza out

1501
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:02.960
of the vending machine congratulations. I
was like, what the hell are you

1502
01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:08.479
talking about? Yeah? Yeah,
damn it, that's stupid vending machine pizza

1503
01:40:08.520 --> 01:40:14.279
was so gross worst I expected,
fact, had they made me at almost

1504
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:24.000
a snack and calories, because I'm
sure that they they like went off on

1505
01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:27.159
their own and ate without me,
and they laughed about how Manati wasn't there

1506
01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:30.800
the whole time. And then when
I was finally like, guys, I'm

1507
01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:34.720
hungry too, they're like, wow, the pizza vending machines right here,

1508
01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:41.199
that would be content for us,
you caught. Yeah, So like then

1509
01:40:41.239 --> 01:40:43.960
they grabbed me by the neck and
I was like, I want to go

1510
01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:48.119
to this real shut up, and
they threw me into this hyatts and they

1511
01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:50.159
like I had to go up to
the person in Jeff was like, I

1512
01:40:50.279 --> 01:40:55.920
know that this sounds like a crazy
question unless it's it's actually it's true.

1513
01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:00.319
But is there a pizza ending machines? I said, and you know,

1514
01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:03.000
like with with a sadness in his
eyes, he pointed us down some scary

1515
01:41:03.079 --> 01:41:10.600
hallway and while he was ordering back
alarm, actually why he was waiting for

1516
01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:14.439
the pizza to cook. Uh.
Everyone in the Starbucks right across the vineing

1517
01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:16.279
machine was staring at him. It
was it was very funny because it was

1518
01:41:16.359 --> 01:41:20.399
so humiliating. Yeah, then they
wanted to get a picture with him after

1519
01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:24.880
it was that. It wasn't even
like I've seen videos of pizza vending machines

1520
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:27.880
where it's like there's like a window
and like you watch them like, oh,

1521
01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:30.840
like the raw dough and then they
like put the cheese in the sauce.

1522
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:35.359
No, this was just like a
stove fers frozen pizza that they heat

1523
01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:40.479
poorly. Then they shove it out
of a slot and then like there's like

1524
01:41:40.520 --> 01:41:45.199
a drizzle of maranera and it calling
it Marianara. It's so so generous.

1525
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:49.640
Probably catch up mixed with like a
fearful of tomato paste or something. I

1526
01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:51.960
mean, you expected a lot more, I get it. No, I

1527
01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:56.600
expected very little. God. The
worst part is that while I was waiting

1528
01:41:56.640 --> 01:41:59.119
for this machine to make my pizza, I had to get a drink and

1529
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:01.800
there was literally a deli like attached
to the end of this hallway. It

1530
01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:05.600
looked amazing. It was like this
mom and pop deli looked very authentic.

1531
01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:11.399
Look great. Oh I got was
this freaking diet doctor Pepper? Like I

1532
01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:15.720
couldn't even tell them I was getting
a pizza from a vending machine. They

1533
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:19.079
probably wouldn't me out. I had
a fantastic espresso while we're packs. It

1534
01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:25.199
was I can't one day hang out
with you, Mike, I really yet.

1535
01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:30.920
No, I've been a backlar in
person yet. It's like presence is

1536
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:35.279
you know, it's a very calming
presence. Yeah. Looking forward to I

1537
01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:41.399
guess like I don't know, game
awards, maybe awards, Uh yeah,

1538
01:42:41.600 --> 01:42:45.479
game awards would be fun. Huh
yeah, on my that's always right on

1539
01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:48.039
my birthday. I think this one's
decenumber seventh, my birthdays number eight.

1540
01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:53.920
So if I did that, well, very obnoxiously, make you all do

1541
01:42:54.119 --> 01:42:58.800
something for me. We'll take you
to dinner. Yeah, so I'm were

1542
01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:03.920
steemed. Don't don't press your Luck's
there is there a Charles Cheese in Los

1543
01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:12.399
Angeles? Cheese man? What's Charles
Cheese? Charl's Entertainment Cheese? Oh,

1544
01:43:12.680 --> 01:43:18.159
Chucky, my boy, Chuck.
I sure, okay, you want to

1545
01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:25.800
go to now, Mike, we've
already established well, will it advertently forced

1546
01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:28.119
you to go anyway? Yeah,
don't tell us what you want and what

1547
01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:30.359
you don't want. It has no
bearing on it what we end up doing.

1548
01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:39.479
They have pictures of beer and pizza, and they've got pizza. They

1549
01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:43.159
sure do the pizzas not from a
Vetti. That pizza will be so good

1550
01:43:43.279 --> 01:43:48.319
compared to my fucking like cold on
the edges, molten hat in the middle,

1551
01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:53.119
crust, texture all over the place, just any kind of texture.

1552
01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:57.760
You can imagine this document somewhere.
Oh yeah, video, I got the

1553
01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:00.039
video. There's there's a lot of
there's a lot of videos coming out,

1554
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:05.479
folks. Yeah, he's working turns
out editing three sixty videos of pain in

1555
01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:10.600
the butt. Yeah, it seems
like if only they make that software better.

1556
01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:14.279
That's my one that's my one complaint. Well, folks, we've been

1557
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:16.840
talking about it's so long for a
segment. This is a very long time.

1558
01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:18.880
I need to take a break.
I need to think about whether or

1559
01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:21.199
not I want to make another cup
of coffee, and I think I will

1560
01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:30.079
during this breaky break. Holy smokes, that was too much talk for a

1561
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:34.640
first segment. I was ready for
like a tight forty to fifty talk about

1562
01:44:34.720 --> 01:44:40.079
Disney talking about games. We just
had the gab and gab and gab and

1563
01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:44.680
apparently good stuff. So I'm good. Apparently chats mad. We didn't talk

1564
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:47.560
about Jan's Tears of the Kingdon was
thoughts, but man's if we talked more.

1565
01:44:48.079 --> 01:44:50.600
As we talked even more, Jam, would you think about Tears of

1566
01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:54.199
the Kingdom? How good is that
ending? Wait? Wait? Oh oh

1567
01:44:54.279 --> 01:44:58.079
wait we were supposed to do this, Jen, Jen? Right? Wait

1568
01:44:58.439 --> 01:45:02.520
wait wait wait wait wait it's happening
right, So I just don't want anything

1569
01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:05.039
again. I'm I'm, I'm,
I'm very good spoiling no, no,

1570
01:45:05.199 --> 01:45:09.359
no, no, begard. We're
just gonna keep saying how fucking good that

1571
01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:15.960
any but we have? Here's what's
happening. Hey, Jen, that's save

1572
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:20.520
file. Okay, So we were
alluding to this on the last voicemail dumb

1573
01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:24.239
Truck. I suggest you listen to
the voicemail dumb Truck. It's a fun

1574
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:29.840
podcast with all of our friends.
So I made a declarative statement I believe

1575
01:45:29.880 --> 01:45:32.520
on this podcast, shave my head
if I don't finish Tears of the Kingdom.

1576
01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:36.359
By the beginning of the Giant bomb
Packs panel, the Saturday one's not

1577
01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:40.800
not the one with Jenna Stebert shout
out out to Jenna. Great panel,

1578
01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:46.399
and everyone did not believe in me. Yeah, me, neither. I

1579
01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:49.119
knew you weren't going to do it. And if you're looking at me now,

1580
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:53.920
if you're watching the video, you
can look good though this fucking asshole.

1581
01:45:54.359 --> 01:46:00.960
I mean, look at me.
I shaved my head be because I

1582
01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:06.880
thought I didn't finish it. What
I had done. Wait, what what

1583
01:46:08.039 --> 01:46:11.279
I had done is that I pause
the game. I hit the whole fun

1584
01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:13.680
I told him like, hey,
you should get direct to the end,

1585
01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:25.560
and then oh you might go the
wrong mike talk Dan I one two three

1586
01:46:25.600 --> 01:46:29.520
one two three three. Yeah,
that's good. Yeah, there we go.

1587
01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:31.439
I'm here. Hi, we're gonna
do news. Do you want to

1588
01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:34.079
hang out for news? Yeah?
I can do that. Okay, all

1589
01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:38.079
right, I just got back for
like two hour dentists appointment. I gotta

1590
01:46:38.119 --> 01:46:41.399
get invisi lines and all this shit. They gotta take this bone from my

1591
01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:44.399
sinuses and put them in my mouth
so I can get another tooth up there.

1592
01:46:44.479 --> 01:46:45.039
And you said that, like,
it's wait, is that for that

1593
01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:48.279
tooth? That that one tooth thing
I'm getting. I'm getting that tooth that's

1594
01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:50.840
gonna be. That's after nine months
of Invisilene. It turns out oh and

1595
01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:54.720
also our insurance just super doesn't cover
any invisi line at all. So that's

1596
01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:57.960
fun, even though I paid for
the most expensive dental insurance. But yeah,

1597
01:46:58.800 --> 01:47:01.039
it's been fixing shit out up.
Yeah, all right. So Jan

1598
01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.960
was talking about his Tears of the
Kingdom save and he's gonna and I recommend

1599
01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:08.840
it to him, like, hey, for the panel, would be cool

1600
01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:12.359
if you did get there. Let's
say you do actually beat this game.

1601
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:16.239
What if you actually beat it in
front of everybody? And so Jan he

1602
01:47:16.439 --> 01:47:19.359
thought that was a good idea.
He went for it. Jane's gonna beat

1603
01:47:19.399 --> 01:47:23.359
Tears the Kingdom in front of people. Well, he was gonna, like,

1604
01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:25.880
do the last hit in front of
people at our packs panel so you

1605
01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:28.359
wouldn't have to shave his head.
But then he didn't do it, and

1606
01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:30.800
he had to shave his head.
Well what happened? Jan? So I

1607
01:47:32.199 --> 01:47:38.560
I I pause it at the last
hit before the rest of the cinematic takes

1608
01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:42.439
over. Hit the home button.
I'm playing on my partner's switch, mind

1609
01:47:42.479 --> 01:47:46.800
g because mine broke like a couple
of months ago. Home switch. It's

1610
01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:50.239
not my home switch, so it
occasionally has to re authenticate and it's like,

1611
01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:53.319
hey, you need to be connected
online to prove you can play.

1612
01:47:53.479 --> 01:48:00.479
Yeah. Yeah. When we got
to the panel, I fired up my

1613
01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:03.520
switch and I just hear it.
Lucy say, oh no, oh jack

1614
01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:08.800
Man, and I've been I've been
working these schools the whole time on our

1615
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:15.640
little discord because it dumped me right
before the Gannon fight at the end,

1616
01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:18.760
and I thought, oh shit,
it didn't save me. It reset because

1617
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:24.359
I had to resink to the internet. Oh so you saved before the last

1618
01:48:24.479 --> 01:48:27.319
last hit, so you basically lost
a lot of progress in that last like

1619
01:48:27.359 --> 01:48:29.920
gaune, no, no, no, no, he hit. He did

1620
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.039
the last hit and then and then
put him into like the sleep mode,

1621
01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:35.760
and the game saves because it's a
good Nintendo game. It's saved, and

1622
01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:39.119
it put him in front of the
fight because that's where the game puts you

1623
01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:45.119
when you beat the game and you
restart your save. Oh so it's saved,

1624
01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:46.079
Like, hey, you already didn't. Oh you must have wanted to

1625
01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:51.680
skip this cut scene and everything,
right, uh huh. There was a

1626
01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:58.359
star by his save, which means
he beat the games the Kingdom. Am

1627
01:48:58.399 --> 01:49:05.279
I understand that Jen shaved his head
even though he won the bet yep decided

1628
01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:10.640
for no reason. I think he
was working everyone. I think he wanted

1629
01:49:10.640 --> 01:49:15.880
to. I think my time mug
smug grub. That's goddamn right. Yeah,

1630
01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:21.039
that's explain this every time. That's
the last time. I ex crazy.

1631
01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:25.600
Listen, I'm getting better at coffee, but every once one because like

1632
01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:28.479
we got an espresso thing and there's
just we got a whole drawer with just

1633
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.960
the tub the goo tubs or whatever, and like I never know, like

1634
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.960
I'll put the whole normal sized coffee
cup in and sometimes you put one in

1635
01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:39.079
and you press the button and it
just squirts a little furt of brown stuff

1636
01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:42.279
out, and sometimes it fills the
whole coffee mug, and sometimes it overfills.

1637
01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:45.079
So I don't know. It's fucking
chaos and coffee Land. I don't

1638
01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:47.239
know how to do this. Chaos
and coffee land. Come on, that's

1639
01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:54.640
got me the name of the episode, episode Chaos and cock Jen. The

1640
01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:58.760
thing. The thing is is that
you you just wanted to shave your head.

1641
01:49:58.880 --> 01:50:02.119
I know I was going to try
and like work an angle after showing

1642
01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:06.079
everyone I beat the game, but
then that was ruined when I thought I

1643
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:11.600
didn't beat the game. You're doing
the Pedro arc from Napoleon Dynamite is what

1644
01:50:11.640 --> 01:50:18.880
you're doing. I don't know.
I don't like that movie, don't remember

1645
01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:24.880
it. You guys all that's fine, doesn't matter. It's just you should

1646
01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:29.920
all talk about Tater talks a lot. That'd be hilarious. I knew.

1647
01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:32.680
I knew because Jane explained this to
me, and I'm like, I bet,

1648
01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:35.199
I bet you actually do have a
save that's a beaten game. And

1649
01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:40.680
here's the thing, your hair,
here's the thing though. I passed my

1650
01:50:40.840 --> 01:50:45.720
switch to Grub and then he saw
where I was at and then laughed.

1651
01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:49.399
And then I thought he laughed because, oh, well, I guess you

1652
01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:54.279
got to shave your head now,
buddy. I'm now realizing that the gears

1653
01:50:54.359 --> 01:50:59.159
were turning in his head in that
moment of he's actually beat the game.

1654
01:50:59.279 --> 01:51:01.920
This doesn't doesn't know that there's a
start. But you can load. You

1655
01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:05.239
can load like an old thing.
You can go to that. I didn't

1656
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:10.479
think about loading it because we're about
we're like a minute away from starting the

1657
01:51:10.520 --> 01:51:13.840
packs panel. None of the enforces
of telling us the Mikes are alive.

1658
01:51:14.239 --> 01:51:18.680
Mike and Grubb are hiding in a
corner somewhere. It'll cost to wonderful,

1659
01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:23.920
excellent tax is. I love tacks
Gas is very fund a good time.

1660
01:51:24.239 --> 01:51:26.479
Shouts at that. Everyone that came
out, shouts out to Steve for taking

1661
01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:30.920
a bunch of wonderful pictures here next
time. Yes, we all need to

1662
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:35.239
be there. We all. You
should all come to Pittsburgh for awesome games

1663
01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:41.199
done Quick in January. Yeah,
we're going too. Yeah, damn we

1664
01:51:41.239 --> 01:51:45.479
could. I have a games journalists
racing the punch out awesome games done quick.

1665
01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:47.399
Come to summer Games Done Quick in
Minneapolis and we'll do it here.

1666
01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:55.760
Okay, Well, let's tour,
lets tour games done Quick. Up a

1667
01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:59.920
freak show though, amazing fastest games
journalists alive. Come see them. They're

1668
01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:05.279
freaks. Yeah, we could do
that show. Because corrected Napoleon Dynamite USA

1669
01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:11.000
Jared Hes what's his name? Jared
Has? Wow, I really love not

1670
01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:14.079
your Libre. I don't like Napoleon
Dynamite. I don't know. That's very

1671
01:52:14.119 --> 01:52:16.439
strange because they have very similar and
I've never never signed to Libra. I

1672
01:52:16.479 --> 01:52:18.680
signed a Point Dynamite and hated it, So I didn't see that to Libra.

1673
01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:25.840
There's gentlemen broncos. Okay, so
I I there's certain scenes in that

1674
01:52:25.960 --> 01:52:29.520
movie that are amazing. Jimmy Comery
is so funny in that movie too.

1675
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:31.840
It's it's not for everyone. It's
just not for everyone. But I but

1676
01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:38.600
I think there's there's something there in
those films. I wanted to like Gentlemen

1677
01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:42.279
Broncos more than I Yeah, me
too, Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite is

1678
01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:46.680
empirically funny. I ran a pole
and chat the point Dynamite year, Naya

1679
01:52:46.840 --> 01:52:51.600
had twenty five, Nay had twenty
five completely Yeah, that sounds like how

1680
01:52:51.640 --> 01:52:55.600
it should be. You know,
twenty five was the fifty not seen it

1681
01:52:57.119 --> 01:53:00.760
the fifties, just when you add
the twenty five percent. Okay, we're

1682
01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:06.439
not doing sign our math here.
Yeah, uh, I have news right,

1683
01:53:08.399 --> 01:53:14.079
all right? So to Scoff,
so proudy for getting new? Why

1684
01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:18.159
do I do this goddamn show?
We're not talking about Disney Wolf for thirty

1685
01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:24.439
is Actually I'm down. I'm sorry
sorry if this has been covered, but

1686
01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:28.920
I have to ask this question,
Mitch. I saw the news of a

1687
01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:32.560
fifteen hundred dollars Disney movie box set
coming out? Are you getting it?

1688
01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:40.000
No? What do I pay Disney
plus for the Disney cult? Like?

1689
01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:42.960
You know just threw money up the
mouse or whatever. Okay, good on

1690
01:53:43.079 --> 01:53:45.600
you, all right, No,
I don't need that. If there was

1691
01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:50.800
a fifteen hundred dollars boxed blue ray
set of like wrestling documentaries, would you

1692
01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:54.640
get that then? I mean Beyond
the Matt and Wrestling with Shadows are both

1693
01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:58.079
on YouTube. I'm good, okay, alright, and everything else, you

1694
01:53:58.119 --> 01:54:00.600
know, State run media. So
I'm who like sees a blu ray and

1695
01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:05.880
it's like I gotta get that.
Yeah right. I thought about it for

1696
01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:11.399
a second because I missed director's commentary. Yeah, I think that's cool.

1697
01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:14.920
There's no special features on that ship. I think it's like each disc is

1698
01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:16.479
probably just like the movie. It's
all probably the same. Men, you

1699
01:54:17.119 --> 01:54:20.359
we're not having fun with it,
like the Star Wars DVDs back in the

1700
01:54:20.479 --> 01:54:26.000
day or that USO Powers Argus Powers
like dance the whole time and like said,

1701
01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:28.439
yeah, baby, as you're like
picking things like yeah, I'm men

1702
01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:31.640
used baby, you know didn't do
commentary, and streaming you can't watch like

1703
01:54:32.119 --> 01:54:36.119
most streaming doesn't have comment Now,
if you if you buy the digital copy,

1704
01:54:36.479 --> 01:54:40.920
sometimes it'll have some of the special
features. They're doing a do over

1705
01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:44.319
and then not your libre. That's
a different one. Not your libre is

1706
01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:49.159
getting its own poems. I love
not your libre. Not lib is good.

1707
01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:54.600
It's like top fifteen movies. Maybe, okay, okay, can I

1708
01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:57.760
think it's funny? I think is
not your libre for Halloween? Yeah?

1709
01:54:57.960 --> 01:55:00.159
You could. You could pull that
off, really pull that off. Yeah,

1710
01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:02.439
that's why I asked. I'm like, I have a good looking I

1711
01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:06.800
mean it goes against the fundamental rule
of like your Halloween costumes should be scary,

1712
01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:12.159
but you do. You're not a
fundamental rule. What okay, okay,

1713
01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:20.359
not prime. Let's go do a
film, but forties not libre yet?

1714
01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:24.319
The yes is not your libre at
twenty four, The nos are at

1715
01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:28.319
twenty three, so not shoe libre. Slightly more popular than Napoleon Dynamite,

1716
01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:32.960
but it's fewer votes though in favor
of black and a funny, chubby little

1717
01:55:33.039 --> 01:55:39.279
child in it. What more could
you want in a movie sensitive to my

1718
01:55:39.399 --> 01:55:44.920
people? The news, uh,
the iPhone has an USBC port and announced

1719
01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:48.800
that our resuable four remake Resuable Village
Assassin's Creed Mirage are coming to the new

1720
01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:55.199
iPhone. This is what I'll double
check this right now? Would you guys

1721
01:55:55.359 --> 01:56:01.000
play those games on a phone.
How No, no, no, poop,

1722
01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:08.159
No, doesn't seem desirable. It
doesn't seem like I would want to

1723
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:13.880
do that. Yeah, Divisional Resurgence, What the fuck is that talking about?

1724
01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:15.880
I don't know someone like that.
These are like people who cover Apple.

1725
01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:19.279
They probably yeah, they probably meant
the Division. But this person has

1726
01:56:19.319 --> 01:56:27.880
said Divisional Resurgences game in their life. They made me play that at the

1727
01:56:28.079 --> 01:56:30.000
Summer Game Fest or something, and
that actually wasn't too bad, like that

1728
01:56:30.159 --> 01:56:35.680
mobile Division game that we're surprisingly well, wow, Ubisoft show over here all

1729
01:56:35.760 --> 01:56:40.159
right, now, yes that's a
crimarage on whatever. That that's fun.

1730
01:56:40.199 --> 01:56:44.520
But here's the real news. Embracer
may sell Gearbox. Embracer Group is considering

1731
01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:49.039
selling Gearbox software. This is according
to a Reuters report. Three anomalous anonymous

1732
01:56:49.119 --> 01:56:54.359
sources familiar with the matter confirmed the
consideration of a potential sale. There was

1733
01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:57.000
an internal letter from Gearbox. It
was like, hey, we don't know

1734
01:56:57.039 --> 01:56:59.840
what's going to happen. We might
stay with Embracer, we might get so

1735
01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:02.560
old, or he might go independent. Basically, what's happening is Embracer is

1736
01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:06.520
has hit the panic button, which
is not the thing that Dan's grandpa thinks

1737
01:57:06.520 --> 01:57:11.800
the panic button is there because everything
costs way too much. They spent way

1738
01:57:11.840 --> 01:57:14.640
too much money, all this stuff. People don't know. Dan's grandpa thought

1739
01:57:14.720 --> 01:57:16.920
that the G spot was the panic
button. It's just what he used.

1740
01:57:16.960 --> 01:57:21.880
That's what he referred to it as. I don't know. Whenever he was

1741
01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:26.079
trying to mention the G spot the
panic button, I guess if it's not

1742
01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:34.159
going well, just open and then
just go Yeah, turn your te sir.

1743
01:57:34.600 --> 01:57:40.279
So he didn't associate that with sex
at all. No, he's saying,

1744
01:57:41.079 --> 01:57:43.680
oh, yes, he was associating
that with sex. Yeah, what

1745
01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:50.199
what the other what other contexts could
the spot the panic sex? I'm misunderstanding.

1746
01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:56.920
You're saying you thought the panic button
the phrase also what he called the

1747
01:57:57.000 --> 01:58:00.720
G spot. Yes, the panic
button. Yes, that's correct, that's

1748
01:58:00.720 --> 01:58:09.640
fucking weird. Gearbox or gearboxes get
might get sold. But all the stems

1749
01:58:09.720 --> 01:58:14.520
from Embracer group never really had a
plan other than hey, Saudi Arabia might

1750
01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:16.680
give us two billion more dollars and
that will pay for everything else all we

1751
01:58:16.760 --> 01:58:19.640
figure out what's next. And then
Saudi was like, hey, we're not

1752
01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:23.119
giving you two billion dollars anymore.
We think you're actually kind of whack.

1753
01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:26.960
And that's they were right, because
as soon as that money went away,

1754
01:58:27.520 --> 01:58:30.239
the Embracer Group has been in panic
mode ever since. They have laid people

1755
01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:33.960
off a Gearbox before this, and
then they also closed down Volition last week

1756
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:39.119
or the week before that. So
it is it's bad over there. Embracer

1757
01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:41.039
Group always felt like this thing and
say, hey, they're going to try

1758
01:58:41.039 --> 01:58:43.760
to make this new middle ground.
Everyone talks about there's big games and there's

1759
01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:47.479
indie games, and there's nothing in
between. And that's true, but this

1760
01:58:47.800 --> 01:58:53.199
is a company that has had some
middle ground success successes like Dead Island two

1761
01:58:53.600 --> 01:58:57.800
and Remnant to both more than a
million seller for each of those games,

1762
01:58:58.119 --> 01:59:00.960
and those have not been anywhere close
to enough to keeping this company going,

1763
01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:03.359
and so they are going to have
to figure something else out. It seems

1764
01:59:03.479 --> 01:59:08.399
very unlike the Embracer Group is going
to be the Embracer Group as we know

1765
01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:11.439
it, whatever that means going forward, Like in a year from now,

1766
01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:14.399
we might not even might not even
have an Embracer Group. They might start

1767
01:59:14.439 --> 01:59:17.920
selling stuff off that quick. What
do you think do you think? Do

1768
01:59:17.960 --> 01:59:20.960
you think Gearbox is going to end
up e They got a Sony or Microsoft.

1769
01:59:21.039 --> 01:59:24.880
Do you think it's more likely that
they do just go independent. I

1770
01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:28.840
think they might. I think it
might go independent because I just I don't

1771
01:59:28.880 --> 01:59:32.439
know. Because so they paid up
to one point four billion dollars for Gearbox.

1772
01:59:32.840 --> 01:59:36.279
The interesting thing is they probably didn't
pay that much because a lot of

1773
01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:40.319
that was determined by a performance.
It's like, hey, we'll give you

1774
01:59:40.720 --> 01:59:44.239
more money down the road if you
hit these certain metrics. They almost certainly

1775
01:59:44.279 --> 01:59:46.039
have had not had time to do
that because all the games they launched so

1776
01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:49.880
far have been published by two K
Undertake two, So it's like, what

1777
01:59:49.960 --> 01:59:53.960
performance could they have done under Embracer
Group? So it's probably closer like five

1778
01:59:54.039 --> 01:59:58.159
hundred million, six hundred million dollars
for them even that though, like what

1779
01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:01.520
they could sell Gearbox for today and
today market probably not close to that,

1780
02:00:01.800 --> 02:00:06.079
Probably something closer to three hundred and
fifty million dollars if they're lucky, and

1781
02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:11.039
so it's like okay at that.
If it's that amount of money, I

1782
02:00:11.159 --> 02:00:13.920
think that the people who used to
own Gearbox might be like, hey,

1783
02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:16.800
maybe we can scratch it together with
some investors and buy ourselves back. But

1784
02:00:16.880 --> 02:00:20.159
I don't think. I don't think
like Sony's gonna want to go in there

1785
02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:24.840
and be like, Okay, I
guess we'll own the company that's gonna make

1786
02:00:24.960 --> 02:00:28.960
Borderlands. But two Ks still gonna
keep publishing Borderlands because they're gonna keep that

1787
02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:33.680
deal. So it's just an awkward
sit NUCA money, right exactly. The

1788
02:00:33.760 --> 02:00:36.479
future of getting video gaming is Duke
Nukea, and we always say that on

1789
02:00:36.560 --> 02:00:41.560
this show. So I was gonna
ask how that would go about for them

1790
02:00:41.640 --> 02:00:45.479
to go independent, but they would
just need to raise enough funds to buy

1791
02:00:45.560 --> 02:00:47.359
themselves out. Yeah, probably,
Yeah, I mean, I mean,

1792
02:00:47.840 --> 02:00:51.079
Brandy Pitchford's got all that Hollywood money
now, so he can What is happening

1793
02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:55.880
with that movie because they filmed it
a while ago. It's in post production.

1794
02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:59.800
Hell apparently that's the word. Yes, oh yeah, speak of speak

1795
02:00:59.840 --> 02:01:01.920
of that small tidbit like this is. I can't confirm this because it's Hollywood

1796
02:01:01.960 --> 02:01:05.199
news and I'm not good at that
stuff. But someone mentioned that the scripts

1797
02:01:05.239 --> 02:01:10.279
came in for the Horizon Show and
it's uh, if the scripts get made

1798
02:01:10.319 --> 02:01:13.720
as they are right now, it
would be the most expensive show pretty much

1799
02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:15.920
ever produced. And what is in
zero Don's getting a show? Yeah,

1800
02:01:16.039 --> 02:01:20.520
like it might get a show.
Okay, is it like makes things?

1801
02:01:21.159 --> 02:01:26.359
Might be Amazon? Honestly, I
can't remember. It's not Peacock because that

1802
02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:30.000
was be Prestige TV. It would
definitely be Prestige TV. Yes, but

1803
02:01:30.039 --> 02:01:33.439
it'd be very expensive. The concern
now is because of the writer strike and

1804
02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:38.039
because they probably would need to reduce
some rewrites because it's so expensive. Uh,

1805
02:01:38.479 --> 02:01:40.840
there's a strong chance the show might
not survive the strike. That's a

1806
02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:43.640
shame. That's that's the word.
Right now. We'll see again. I'm

1807
02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:45.199
not very good at that. Let
it happened to Horizon. I'm okay to

1808
02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:47.760
sacrifice that. Okay, yeah,
we don't need that. Let's start that

1809
02:01:47.800 --> 02:01:51.119
in front of the bullet. I
feel bad for the Horizon fans though.

1810
02:01:51.640 --> 02:02:00.640
Yeah. Punch Down punch Down both
be very upset. Better pretend to be

1811
02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:03.840
really into Horizon, just like it. Like take the opposite line on this

1812
02:02:03.960 --> 02:02:10.720
with you guys. But I just
can't. But how how sad is it

1813
02:02:10.800 --> 02:02:15.000
going to be that out of the
Sony or the PlayStation games to TV series,

1814
02:02:15.840 --> 02:02:20.359
Day's Gone will probably survive this.
Huh yeah, what they're doing a

1815
02:02:20.479 --> 02:02:24.880
Day's Gone? Oh wow? I
think so. Yeah, It's just it's

1816
02:02:24.920 --> 02:02:28.720
actually just gonna be eight episodes of
them getting married and talking about riding each

1817
02:02:28.760 --> 02:02:33.960
other like Harley's I'm just staring at
gets progressively board board cofterbulls. I just

1818
02:02:33.960 --> 02:02:38.560
don't understand how there's like room for
that, like in a post Last of

1819
02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:43.520
Us world, Like there's a lot
of there's a lot of subscription services out

1820
02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:47.359
there back but hope. I just
also think, like, uh, you

1821
02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:54.159
know, it seems like spending will
take a bit of a hit after hopefully

1822
02:02:54.600 --> 02:03:00.159
a lot of these disgusting media corporations
on or some of the requests of these

1823
02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:02.279
of these writers and actress guilds,
and it's like, all right, and

1824
02:03:02.399 --> 02:03:05.880
then you're gonna go make a Last
of Us Sons of Anarchy kind of thing,

1825
02:03:06.000 --> 02:03:09.880
Like I don't know, I bet, hey, I bet if you

1826
02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:14.159
said that it seems act pitch to
like aboard, they would like really get

1827
02:03:14.279 --> 02:03:23.199
serious. Oh my god, is
nothing but trash And yet like that series

1828
02:03:23.239 --> 02:03:26.720
has spun off like five times.
There's like so many books good though.

1829
02:03:26.800 --> 02:03:30.119
I think the source material is pretty
good for Walks funny, yeah, totally,

1830
02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:33.800
but but the show's trash. I
like Andrew Lincoln, I like everyone

1831
02:03:33.960 --> 02:03:38.279
in that show, me too,
you know, if we're just going about

1832
02:03:38.319 --> 02:03:42.119
what shows we like. I'm halfway
through Righteous Gemstones and holy fuck, I

1833
02:03:42.359 --> 02:03:45.600
love everything about Righteous gem Like.
I need to go back to that too.

1834
02:03:45.640 --> 02:03:46.880
I need to go back same.
I watched one or two episodes and

1835
02:03:46.960 --> 02:03:51.000
stops. Yeah, I'm just like, I can't. It's amazing. It

1836
02:03:51.079 --> 02:03:58.960
actually felt like Disney World a little
bit. But that's another And John Adam

1837
02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:03.600
Divine's great. Everyone's perfectly cast.
He has a very flexible face. Yeah.

1838
02:04:04.479 --> 02:04:09.720
That's good for an actor, right, my face grabs my face flexibility,

1839
02:04:09.960 --> 02:04:13.640
yes, why a motive? Yes, thank you, I've seen your

1840
02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:19.159
face in person. Yeah, carry
of giant bomb. That's right, all

1841
02:04:19.199 --> 02:04:24.359
right. Nintendo may use Hall effect
sensors on its next joysticks. Nintendo has

1842
02:04:24.399 --> 02:04:29.760
filed a patent for a magnetic joystick
utilizing a smart fluid to potentially a dressing.

1843
02:04:31.000 --> 02:04:33.800
We're in the smart fluid era,
everybody. I don't know what that

1844
02:04:33.880 --> 02:04:36.159
means. I do know what Hall
effect censors are. They use a magnetic

1845
02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:42.800
field instead of like mechanisms in there
to see where the stick is. Basically

1846
02:04:42.880 --> 02:04:45.760
eliminates drift. The Dreamcast had Hall
Effect sensors. This would be a new

1847
02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:49.399
implementation. I guess of Hall effects, so Nintendo can technically try to patent

1848
02:04:49.439 --> 02:04:54.239
it. The important thing here is
if they do use this, you likely

1849
02:04:54.279 --> 02:04:57.880
wouldn't get stick drift anymore. Maybe
it would have some fun new issue,

1850
02:04:57.960 --> 02:05:00.960
but so far that this a lot
of my new switch is just leaking all

1851
02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:05.760
over the place because yeah, now
you're switching, like that's the downside.

1852
02:05:06.119 --> 02:05:11.760
I mean, why brains don't don't
these have like the ape, don't they

1853
02:05:11.800 --> 02:05:15.479
have like a way to fix drift? Yeah, into what your model?

1854
02:05:15.520 --> 02:05:16.800
You get? If you got if
you have the one with the switch buttons,

1855
02:05:16.840 --> 02:05:18.800
it does have hall effect. If
you have the one with the Xbox

1856
02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:23.359
buttons, it doesn't have Hall effect. Okay, so I got the good

1857
02:05:23.399 --> 02:05:25.439
one. Then I think, yep, yeah, there you go. I

1858
02:05:25.479 --> 02:05:27.720
have to do that. You have
to know what the smart fluid tastes,

1859
02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:31.840
like God forbid, Nintendo doesn't invent
technology and then pattent it like fucking just

1860
02:05:32.560 --> 02:05:36.399
oh my god, that's the whole
Like again, Nintendo just hires lawyers in

1861
02:05:36.399 --> 02:05:40.239
America and there this is all they're
gonna do. If they can patent,

1862
02:05:40.399 --> 02:05:43.760
that's what they're gonna do. Chat
if they would drink, if they would

1863
02:05:43.800 --> 02:05:47.159
taste the smart fluid. Sure,
absolutely, it takes like Miamoto sweat.

1864
02:05:47.399 --> 02:05:51.319
Probably it's the green goo from Zelda, that's what it is. Uh huh,

1865
02:05:51.840 --> 02:05:55.600
this would be cool. I there's
no guarantee they're going to use this

1866
02:05:55.640 --> 02:05:58.359
on the next switch. They patent
stuff all the time. If this is

1867
02:05:58.439 --> 02:06:00.720
like more costly, they almost certainly
won't use it. Just look at the

1868
02:06:00.760 --> 02:06:03.680
fact that the new switch is rumored
to using LCD instead of an Olette.

1869
02:06:03.680 --> 02:06:08.319
It's a bummer, isn't that a
bummer? They can charge you for the

1870
02:06:08.520 --> 02:06:12.840
old edition and trying for the pro
controllers as well. They have the Hall

1871
02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:15.880
Effect sensors. I was at a
Target the other day and they had the

1872
02:06:15.039 --> 02:06:18.960
you know, the nice Nintendo standy, and they had the switch and the

1873
02:06:19.000 --> 02:06:21.760
switch old right next to each other, and I'm like, man, I

1874
02:06:21.880 --> 02:06:27.399
forget, how much better the Olette
is. It's better. It's gonna go

1875
02:06:27.520 --> 02:06:31.119
back. Is it worth it to
get it now? Yeah? That's what

1876
02:06:31.239 --> 02:06:34.239
I'm asking you. Maybe waited too
long at this point, Yeah, because

1877
02:06:34.319 --> 02:06:38.119
now you're just gonna get it and
like learn to like it and then six

1878
02:06:38.199 --> 02:06:41.119
months later have to buy a switch
to and lose it again. You're gonna

1879
02:06:41.119 --> 02:06:45.119
be something something happened to my switch
on the on the plane down to Aruba,

1880
02:06:45.239 --> 02:06:48.079
like the self aware what happened.
It's I don't know if it like

1881
02:06:48.199 --> 02:06:51.000
got too hot. You know,
we were playing with that monitor and it

1882
02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:55.319
was like power was going all over. I don't know what happened, but

1883
02:06:56.199 --> 02:07:00.520
when I got to the room,
I took out the switch and the fan,

1884
02:07:02.000 --> 02:07:06.640
like the little grill around the top
exhaust fans just snapped off like it's

1885
02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:11.760
gone now. It's oh geez,
it's just not switch went on strike that.

1886
02:07:11.840 --> 02:07:14.720
But my first switched too, Yes, So I don't know if it's

1887
02:07:14.760 --> 02:07:16.840
like a heat issue or whatever.
I mean, it's it still works fine,

1888
02:07:16.960 --> 02:07:20.399
It's just a little sharp in a
spot now it makes you bleed.

1889
02:07:20.560 --> 02:07:24.880
Yeah, that's all. Can cut
you now, and that makes it more

1890
02:07:24.920 --> 02:07:30.079
yours. You've got a little bit
exactly. Yeah. Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven

1891
02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:32.199
and Fantom Liberty is going to be
the new crisis, at least for CPUs

1892
02:07:32.720 --> 02:07:36.920
CD. Project Red is set to
release Phantom Liberty expansion for Cyberpunk twenty seventy

1893
02:07:36.920 --> 02:07:42.640
seven on September twenty sixth, accompanied
by a significant version two point zero update.

1894
02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:46.960
Philip Perzynski, the game's leap See
programmer issued a warning via Twitter about

1895
02:07:47.000 --> 02:07:51.680
the potential strain on PC setups,
especially CPU workload, that the expansion may

1896
02:07:51.840 --> 02:07:56.319
cause. He advised players to check
their PC cooling systems before the update,

1897
02:07:56.680 --> 02:08:01.880
as the CPU workload could reach up
to ninety percent on eight core CPUs that

1898
02:08:01.960 --> 02:08:07.319
would probably cause your CPU to run
very hot. Most CPUs that when they

1899
02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:09.960
come with a fan, they are
going to be mostly good enough, especially

1900
02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:15.279
AMD Intel. You might want to
actually upgrade your cooler. Most people do

1901
02:08:15.399 --> 02:08:18.800
do this if they build their own
own PCs. And then if you get

1902
02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:22.439
like a custom built from from one
of these pre build companies, that also

1903
02:08:22.479 --> 02:08:26.479
probably has better cooling. But if
you're running that stock cooler on Intel,

1904
02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:30.960
maybe take another look there. But
I don't know. This is also kind

1905
02:08:30.960 --> 02:08:33.399
of them just thump in their chest
a little bit. This game does look

1906
02:08:33.479 --> 02:08:35.760
very good and it's always been difficult
to run, but you're probably going to

1907
02:08:35.840 --> 02:08:39.399
be fine on most systems, like
all the systems that all of us have,

1908
02:08:39.600 --> 02:08:41.680
You're going to be fine. There
won't be any issues. Here is

1909
02:08:41.720 --> 02:08:45.119
the consensus at this point. Like
I know, there have been several big

1910
02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:48.159
updates. Is the game people like
it now is generally positive. That's that's

1911
02:08:48.199 --> 02:08:52.159
the general consensus now, Yes,
a lot of a lot more than when

1912
02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:56.520
it came out, exactly, Yes, And I think I think it still

1913
02:08:56.600 --> 02:08:58.479
has those fundamental issues that I talked
about in my review, where it's like

1914
02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:01.680
the world is pretty stiff and stale
and there's not like it's a lot of

1915
02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:05.880
window dressing, not a lot to
interact with, and that that bugged me

1916
02:09:05.960 --> 02:09:09.760
a lot because I was expecting more. But they're trying to address that somewhat

1917
02:09:09.800 --> 02:09:11.760
with this version two point a update
that's going to come alongside Phantom Liberty,

1918
02:09:11.800 --> 02:09:16.039
where like, oh, the cops
might be smarter and that might make the

1919
02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:18.479
game feel more entertaining. So it's
definitely gonna be worth checking out at this

1920
02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:22.279
point. I think it's a very
strong good game. I don't I've never

1921
02:09:22.319 --> 02:09:24.680
thought it was a great game,
but I think it's a very good game.

1922
02:09:24.039 --> 02:09:28.279
It's probably gonna be much better with
Phantom Liberty, so I'm I would

1923
02:09:28.359 --> 02:09:31.560
jump back into yeah, yeah,
I think we should have still never played

1924
02:09:31.560 --> 02:09:33.399
it. I've been kind of waiting
for no reason, but this is probably

1925
02:09:33.439 --> 02:09:39.920
one old job. Seems like you
won. There's so many other things to

1926
02:09:39.960 --> 02:09:45.279
play this year. Did did you
ever Trytaklor? Yeah, I played probably

1927
02:09:45.359 --> 02:09:50.119
like h twelve hours, okay,
yeah, and I thought it was I

1928
02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:54.880
thought it was fine. I think
I felt the same sort of initial honeymoon

1929
02:09:54.920 --> 02:09:58.439
disappointment that a lot of people did. But uh, yeah, I I

1930
02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:03.560
you know, I'm more excited to
do something like that than continue Starfield,

1931
02:10:03.600 --> 02:10:05.840
if that makes sense. Yeah,
I mean, I think that's honestly,

1932
02:10:05.840 --> 02:10:09.760
I think the way I felt about
Cyberpunk at the time, it's how I

1933
02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:13.640
think a lot of people feel about
Starfield now, where it's yeah, it's

1934
02:10:13.720 --> 02:10:18.960
not quite there. Yeah. X
Defiant has been delayed. Ubisoft test postponed

1935
02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:22.079
the release of X Defiant, a
free to play call of Duty like basically

1936
02:10:22.079 --> 02:10:26.479
it looks exactly like Call of Duty, due to failing certification tests on Microsoft

1937
02:10:26.600 --> 02:10:31.000
and Sony's consoles. Originally aiming for
a summer launch, the game's executive producer

1938
02:10:31.079 --> 02:10:33.000
Mark Rubin, who used to work
on Call of Duty, indicated that in

1939
02:10:33.079 --> 02:10:37.640
October release is now more likely as
an additional work, as additional work is

1940
02:10:37.720 --> 02:10:41.760
needed to meet the platform holders requirements. The delay is attributed to the discovery

1941
02:10:41.800 --> 02:10:46.920
of unspecified compliance bugs, not gameplay
issues, which pertain to systems and overall

1942
02:10:46.039 --> 02:10:50.680
user experience expected by platform providers,
so stuff like trophy tracking and friends list,

1943
02:10:52.039 --> 02:10:54.600
which is I guess a weird thing
to mess up, but I'm going

1944
02:10:54.680 --> 02:10:56.159
to try to get it together.
X Define is one of these weird ones.

1945
02:10:56.199 --> 02:11:01.039
Guys. There is a huge following
this game of people who are like,

1946
02:11:01.119 --> 02:11:03.399
this is the Call of Duty killer, and I guess they've had a

1947
02:11:03.439 --> 02:11:05.560
lot of open betas and and and
alphas and things like that where people the

1948
02:11:05.680 --> 02:11:09.279
millions of people played it. But
it's also one like when I'm not when

1949
02:11:09.279 --> 02:11:13.159
I don't see those people on Twitter, I never think about this game.

1950
02:11:13.760 --> 02:11:16.720
Is there any interest for you,
guys for a Ubisoft Call of Duty?

1951
02:11:18.039 --> 02:11:22.680
When you put it like that,
exactly what it is, Bacalar, I

1952
02:11:22.680 --> 02:11:26.039
wouldn't say that. I wish you
wouldn't say it like that. I feel

1953
02:11:26.079 --> 02:11:28.079
like this may appeal to you the
most. Why what are you trying to

1954
02:11:28.119 --> 02:11:31.960
say? You and the codboys?
Yeah, if it's a play game,

1955
02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:35.039
do you think that like helps you
in your case when you like say,

1956
02:11:35.079 --> 02:11:39.199
hey, should we try this?
I don't think. I think there's I

1957
02:11:39.600 --> 02:11:43.600
have a personal bias, a stigma
if you will, about the notion of

1958
02:11:43.640 --> 02:11:48.119
a free to play FPS, right, Yeah, something is the flavoring of

1959
02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:54.159
that doesn't sit it. Call of
Duty pretty aggressive, like with its micro

1960
02:11:54.239 --> 02:11:58.079
transactions anyways, Like it's still telling
you about like stuff in the store and

1961
02:11:58.199 --> 02:12:01.399
all that stuff. Oh yeah,
but I be that it's gross. Oh

1962
02:12:01.520 --> 02:12:03.600
oh would it be that different?
I don't know. Yeah, I mean,

1963
02:12:05.399 --> 02:12:11.720
is it because Defiant yet Nicki minaj
is not in there? No?

1964
02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:15.079
It was what was all they Saidone
was like, hey, Nicki Minaju will

1965
02:12:15.119 --> 02:12:16.760
step on you and Call of Duty
And then I'm like, oh, I

1966
02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:18.000
should install Call of Duty, but
I don't. I think they've just been

1967
02:12:18.039 --> 02:12:20.680
saying that. I don't know if
she actually steps on you, probably not.

1968
02:12:22.079 --> 02:12:24.119
This is you know, I'll go, I'll look into this in my

1969
02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:26.199
own time. You guys, don't
worry about it. This is a personal

1970
02:12:26.279 --> 02:12:31.399
issue. Starfield has had a strong
launch. Starfield had a strong physical sales

1971
02:12:31.439 --> 02:12:35.520
debut in the UK despite its inclusion
on game Bass. During its release week,

1972
02:12:35.560 --> 02:12:39.079
the Xbox and PC exclusive secured the
number one spot in the UK for

1973
02:12:39.199 --> 02:12:43.880
box game sales. While exact sales
figures weren't provided, Starfield's physical launch in

1974
02:12:43.880 --> 02:12:46.319
the UK was not the largest in
twenty twenty three, trailing behind titles like

1975
02:12:46.399 --> 02:12:50.840
Hogwarts Legacy, Zelda Tiers in the
Kingdom, Jedi Survivor Residue before Final Fantasy

1976
02:12:50.880 --> 02:12:54.680
sixteen at Dead Island two. However, what sets Starfield apart is its exclusivity

1977
02:12:54.680 --> 02:12:58.520
to platforms with a significant share of
digital sales, which is PC and Xbox,

1978
02:12:58.600 --> 02:13:01.960
which both do much bigger in terms
of digital sales in the UK.

1979
02:13:03.920 --> 02:13:07.920
But animals suggest that that if Starfield
follows a similar digital sales trend as Blizzards

1980
02:13:07.960 --> 02:13:11.159
Diablo four, a game which you
did outsell in terms of physical sales,

1981
02:13:11.359 --> 02:13:16.079
it'll be a very big success for
Microsoft and one of the biggest sales successes

1982
02:13:16.119 --> 02:13:18.760
of the year. The story here
just continues to be that, hey,

1983
02:13:18.880 --> 02:13:22.359
this game is available on game Pass, and yet millions of people continue buying

1984
02:13:22.520 --> 02:13:26.479
games that are on game Pass sort
of just out of either out of habit

1985
02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:30.159
or that's their preference or whatever.
But it's not really hurting sales, and

1986
02:13:30.239 --> 02:13:33.520
overall it's like a complimentary to one
another. Do you have you guys,

1987
02:13:33.600 --> 02:13:37.840
felt like sort of a mainstream penetration
for Starfield among people you talk to.

1988
02:13:39.960 --> 02:13:43.520
It's similar like what Hogwarts Legacy had
earlier this year. Or a Zelda or

1989
02:13:43.560 --> 02:13:48.840
anything like that, not amongst my
friends that wind up picking up Hogwarts Legacy.

1990
02:13:48.880 --> 02:13:52.800
But I think that is primarily because
a lot of those folks, for

1991
02:13:52.920 --> 02:13:56.600
whatever reason, chose to buy a
PS five to play Hogwarts Legacy versus picking

1992
02:13:56.680 --> 02:14:01.039
up an Xbox. So they're screwed
either way, right, They they've already

1993
02:14:01.039 --> 02:14:03.399
made their choice there, and so
they weren't gonna like make the have a

1994
02:14:03.479 --> 02:14:09.880
similar decision with Starfield. Yeah,
Jeff, you said mainstream penetration, And

1995
02:14:09.079 --> 02:14:13.920
yeah, I saw a chat here
Tolkoto from the Giant Bomb Chats just typed

1996
02:14:15.039 --> 02:14:18.800
mainstream penetration. Loll Yeah, it's
funny. I did say, and I

1997
02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:20.920
knew what I was saying when I
said it, and I knew this would

1998
02:14:20.960 --> 02:14:22.600
happen, just like I knew when
I had my smallest spresso cup and I

1999
02:14:22.680 --> 02:14:26.119
was pulling it up, like people
are gonna talk about my smallest Presso getting

2000
02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:30.840
crazy, You're gonna hit the panic
buttons are in your mainstream penetration. I'm

2001
02:14:30.840 --> 02:14:41.479
gonna listen what else entities? There
we go, Philip Folks. My unscientific

2002
02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:46.680
anecdotal sample survey of my idiot cod
friends, zero of them have played Starfield.

2003
02:14:46.880 --> 02:14:52.560
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's
uh probably doing fine for people who

2004
02:14:52.600 --> 02:14:56.000
were paying attention to gain pass,
probably doing fine for Bethesda freaks, who

2005
02:14:56.359 --> 02:14:58.800
there's millions of those. I just
don't think it's kind of reaching beyond that,

2006
02:15:00.119 --> 02:15:01.119
but not that it needs to.
It's going to succeed with just that

2007
02:15:01.359 --> 02:15:05.960
audience is on the packs train.
We saw several be as the weirdos.

2008
02:15:07.640 --> 02:15:13.920
Yeah, Rod, I just gotta
like I have seen a bit of like

2009
02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:18.439
weirdness with the streaming community and playing
this game too. I don't know if

2010
02:15:18.479 --> 02:15:22.520
there's like a campaign a foot or
something. Obviously there always is, but

2011
02:15:22.640 --> 02:15:26.760
like, I just I don't know, I think I've felt more so for

2012
02:15:26.880 --> 02:15:31.279
this game than maybe others. Actually, I think for oh my god,

2013
02:15:31.520 --> 02:15:35.159
it's such a it's the worst named
video game ever. I already forgot it.

2014
02:15:35.239 --> 02:15:41.319
What was the one? The EA
game? Yeah, so that too,

2015
02:15:41.479 --> 02:15:48.960
where like there was this very clear
streamer campaign likes enthusiasm. Yeah,

2016
02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:52.840
Like, it's just I feel people
playing this game because they it's a big

2017
02:15:52.920 --> 02:15:58.439
game, it's a popular I'm not
I'm not saying there are not people enjoying

2018
02:15:58.479 --> 02:16:01.640
it. I just, uh,
may be it was too close to the

2019
02:16:01.239 --> 02:16:07.239
recency bias of the avium thing.
Yeah, that's always be huge no matter

2020
02:16:07.319 --> 02:16:09.760
what. Yeah, it's a big
bethested game. There was always a ton

2021
02:16:09.800 --> 02:16:13.159
of anticipation among people want it like
content, of course. I don't think.

2022
02:16:13.159 --> 02:16:16.960
I don't think there's a sponsored streams
of Starfield. I don't think they

2023
02:16:16.079 --> 02:16:18.560
paid for anything like that. Like
they definitely, I mean they were pretty

2024
02:16:18.600 --> 02:16:22.800
clear about mortals. Yeah they Yeah, those are definitely yeah for sure.

2025
02:16:22.880 --> 02:16:28.319
Ye. But yeah, all right, Nintendo is done with Mario km excuse

2026
02:16:28.359 --> 02:16:30.520
me, up with the Mario Kart
game, but it's not the one from

2027
02:16:30.560 --> 02:16:33.959
ten years ago. Nintendo in DNA
have announced that they will cease creating new

2028
02:16:35.040 --> 02:16:39.319
content for the mobile game Mario Kart
Tour four years after its initial launch,

2029
02:16:39.879 --> 02:16:43.120
following the Anniversary Tour starting on September
twenty if. All future seasons will feature

2030
02:16:43.159 --> 02:16:48.079
content from previous tours, and no
new courses, driver's carts, or gliders

2031
02:16:48.120 --> 02:16:52.319
will be added from the after the
Battle Tour beginning on October fourth, twenty

2032
02:16:52.399 --> 02:16:56.200
twenty three. This development may suggest
an impenny release for the sixth and final

2033
02:16:56.280 --> 02:17:00.399
wave of DLC for the Nintendo Switch
title Mario Kart eight Deluxe. As games

2034
02:17:00.440 --> 02:17:03.200
have often shared new course releases.
I want to worry. You think there's

2035
02:17:03.200 --> 02:17:07.399
any chance there's something coming up where
they can announce that final d No way,

2036
02:17:07.639 --> 02:17:11.120
no, but yeah, does that
happen. It's not hasn't been confirmed

2037
02:17:11.239 --> 02:17:15.399
yet, but there's so we'll talk
about that into direction. It should have

2038
02:17:15.479 --> 02:17:18.440
confirmed it on nine to eleven,
the cowards exactly. That's why they have

2039
02:17:18.639 --> 02:17:22.200
done it on nine eleven eleven with
an announcement of the Nintendo Direct. Yeah,

2040
02:17:24.040 --> 02:17:28.239
nine to eleven Nintendo Direct and Nintendo
also is a pretty mindful of Apple

2041
02:17:28.280 --> 02:17:31.040
and Apples doing their thing today and
they usually try to avoid announcing stuff at

2042
02:17:31.040 --> 02:17:35.280
the same time as that as well. So well, we'll probably get announced

2043
02:17:35.319 --> 02:17:37.879
it tomorrow and it'll probably happen Thursday
if there is a direct this week,

2044
02:17:37.920 --> 02:17:39.879
which there probably is. That's the
rumors, and we'll talk about that here.

2045
02:17:41.360 --> 02:17:46.040
It's gonna be on my colonoscopy day, probably probably discorded. Yeah,

2046
02:17:48.040 --> 02:17:52.079
I'm gonna be zonked out. Probably
that's the best kind of Mikey content.

2047
02:17:52.319 --> 02:17:54.879
Let's do it. Give me no, I will tell you what else I

2048
02:17:54.959 --> 02:17:58.159
might be doing. Well, yeah, please don't. Yeah, do you

2049
02:17:58.239 --> 02:18:01.920
think there's a way I'm just a
fresh in my mind, just coming from

2050
02:18:01.920 --> 02:18:03.760
the dentist where one of the things
I love a living here is they'll knock

2051
02:18:03.799 --> 02:18:07.280
you the fuck out general anesthesia,
like just full on put an IVY in.

2052
02:18:07.440 --> 02:18:11.239
You're on another planet for several hours. So I'm gonna have to get

2053
02:18:11.239 --> 02:18:15.040
a bunch of shit done in my
mouth and they're gonna knock me out for

2054
02:18:15.200 --> 02:18:18.079
it. Don't you wish there was
some service where it was like, not

2055
02:18:18.280 --> 02:18:22.239
just dentist, but if you also
need a colonoscopy or something with your heart,

2056
02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:24.200
like all the doctors can be in
the room, so you just get

2057
02:18:24.280 --> 02:18:28.159
knocked out for one like a day. You're knocked out and go to town.

2058
02:18:28.200 --> 02:18:30.680
Everyone like they just do all their
stuff, just run a train.

2059
02:18:31.520 --> 02:18:35.840
So much extra for that, my
friends, to the other three people in

2060
02:18:35.879 --> 02:18:41.799
the room, we must not even
acknowledge it. General move on. I

2061
02:18:41.920 --> 02:18:46.680
can't but just get it all done
at once that you would hurt so much

2062
02:18:46.799 --> 02:18:52.280
afterwards you're caught because you were all
cars. And yeah, the doctors are

2063
02:18:52.399 --> 02:18:56.280
very busy getting all of their schedules
to line up like that has benna.

2064
02:18:56.639 --> 02:19:00.799
That's why you pay extra. But
I would always wanted to general stations,

2065
02:19:01.000 --> 02:19:09.200
meaning what it's the Disney World,
skip the light that you can pay for

2066
02:19:09.360 --> 02:19:16.840
the late light lightning lane surgery.
Where's it going? They are so like,

2067
02:19:16.920 --> 02:19:20.719
I'm getting a sleep test, but
like I told them this when they

2068
02:19:20.799 --> 02:19:24.959
called me before I go in,
and they said, oh well we could

2069
02:19:24.040 --> 02:19:28.159
kind of like see if you have
sleepapp yet just while we knock you out,

2070
02:19:28.239 --> 02:19:30.680
like we will know why we do
that. Like, oh, well

2071
02:19:30.760 --> 02:19:33.879
that's good. Yeah, just let
me know. I've had people tell me

2072
02:19:33.040 --> 02:19:39.120
they they're natsiologists said after a surgery
or something like, go get a sleep

2073
02:19:39.120 --> 02:19:43.799
test because when you were out you
sounded not great. Oh wow, okay,

2074
02:19:43.040 --> 02:19:46.520
well yeah that's another person putting the
room with me. Yeah, but

2075
02:19:46.639 --> 02:19:50.479
like there's something I think you probably
need to see papp. Oh I know.

2076
02:19:50.799 --> 02:19:54.200
Yeah, them with me, they're
not happy, you know what.

2077
02:19:54.280 --> 02:19:56.440
I was fine. I'm just like
I was like, you were taking a

2078
02:19:56.479 --> 02:19:58.799
napter in the day and I'm like, oh yeah, that sounds like me

2079
02:20:00.440 --> 02:20:05.159
obstructive breathing. So you're doing a
sleep test, all right. Stalker two

2080
02:20:05.200 --> 02:20:09.040
developer GSC game World offices were damaged
by a fire. This developer has been

2081
02:20:09.079 --> 02:20:13.399
through a lot. The developer of
Stalker two, Heart of Chernobyl experienced the

2082
02:20:13.479 --> 02:20:16.879
fire in one floor of its offices. While there were no reported injuries,

2083
02:20:16.920 --> 02:20:20.639
the fire caused damage estimated up to
seventy thousand dollars. The fire occurred near

2084
02:20:20.840 --> 02:20:24.440
the game's backup servers, although it
remains unclear if any data was lost.

2085
02:20:24.879 --> 02:20:28.239
A developer confirmed on discord that none
of the employees or office staff were harmed

2086
02:20:28.239 --> 02:20:33.120
and express determinations continue working towards their
goal. Basically, they said they've been

2087
02:20:33.159 --> 02:20:35.719
through a lot worse and they have
been. This is a studio that was

2088
02:20:35.760 --> 02:20:39.440
based in Ukraine during the war.
They've moved a lot of people out of

2089
02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:41.399
the country. They continued working on
the game, but they're gonna they said,

2090
02:20:41.399 --> 02:20:45.000
they're gonna try to chug right along. This game is supposed to come

2091
02:20:45.040 --> 02:20:48.680
out next year, early next year, early next year. Yeah, and

2092
02:20:48.559 --> 02:20:50.120
you know, there's a lot of
high hopes. This is a game that

2093
02:20:50.200 --> 02:20:54.600
looked really, like, really nice
when they've were shown off in the early

2094
02:20:54.680 --> 02:20:58.360
days of like the Xbox series X
and S announcements, and it had really

2095
02:20:58.600 --> 02:21:01.719
strong graphics in terms of like,
oh that's a good looking game. Is

2096
02:21:01.719 --> 02:21:03.719
that really gonna come out? And
then of course it took a lot of

2097
02:21:03.719 --> 02:21:05.879
extra time, but if it gets
anywhere near those early trailers, that'll be

2098
02:21:05.920 --> 02:21:09.319
really impressive. And there's a lot
of Stalker fans out there as well.

2099
02:21:09.559 --> 02:21:13.879
Hell yeah, Sony may have a
complete edition of Horizon Forbidden West listening for

2100
02:21:13.879 --> 02:21:18.360
a complete edition? Yes, right. It has been discovered on the Singapore

2101
02:21:18.479 --> 02:21:22.520
rating board I am DA, where
a lot of these things tend to leak.

2102
02:21:22.799 --> 02:21:26.559
The listing is still live and describes
it as Horizon Horizon Forbidden West Complete

2103
02:21:26.680 --> 02:21:31.319
Edition, which includes the original game
and the Horizon Forbidden West Burning Shore's expansion.

2104
02:21:31.600 --> 02:21:33.799
Well what do you think they don't
use Game of the Year editions?

2105
02:21:33.879 --> 02:21:35.760
Someone had to give that game Game
of the Year, right, So complete

2106
02:21:35.799 --> 02:21:41.639
complete Edition? I guess do you
actually have to win somewhere? Yeah?

2107
02:21:41.719 --> 02:21:46.360
I don't get a very loose term, Uh right, you could you feel

2108
02:21:46.399 --> 02:21:48.239
like my cousins said it, like, man, this is my game of

2109
02:21:48.239 --> 02:21:50.719
the year. There you go,
game year that the eletor Ring year,

2110
02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:52.920
Like, who win the right mine? It's like, I guess somebody must

2111
02:21:52.959 --> 02:21:56.360
have, but man, it's not
definitely saw some people, you know,

2112
02:21:56.760 --> 02:22:01.239
like, Hey, I'm gonna I'm
gonna start saying instead of God's Favorite Podcast,

2113
02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:03.000
the Game of the Year Edition of
the BombCast. Yeah, exactly.

2114
02:22:03.280 --> 02:22:07.799
I mean it's meaningless. Oh the
game. I'm gonna I'm gonna find somebody

2115
02:22:07.799 --> 02:22:15.319
who caught a game you jel sure, thank you. Yes, just loves

2116
02:22:15.319 --> 02:22:18.479
his PlayStation. Fortnite is losing its
mustard. Donald Mustard, Epic Games chief

2117
02:22:18.479 --> 02:22:24.479
creative officer and the key figure behind
Fortnite's success, has announced his departure from

2118
02:22:24.479 --> 02:22:26.879
the company. Mustard, known for
his work on games like Infinity Blade and

2119
02:22:28.000 --> 02:22:31.120
Shadow Complex, shared the news on
his social media accounts. He expressed confidence

2120
02:22:31.159 --> 02:22:35.639
in Fortnite's team's capabilities and teased that
they are working on a lot of significant

2121
02:22:35.680 --> 02:22:39.280
projects. Mustard has been i think
working with Epic or he's been working in

2122
02:22:39.520 --> 02:22:41.360
the industry for twenty five years.
He's been an Epic for a very long

2123
02:22:41.399 --> 02:22:45.079
time as well. For me,
this guy idead, I'm like, that's

2124
02:22:45.120 --> 02:22:48.600
the Shadow Complex guy, and now
that for years now, he's actually been

2125
02:22:48.600 --> 02:22:50.840
the Fortnite guy. But my mind, it was always Shadow Complex and Infinity

2126
02:22:50.879 --> 02:22:54.479
Blade. He was always on the
Apple stage of showing off that stuff as

2127
02:22:54.520 --> 02:22:56.440
well. But hey, yeah,
happy trails to Donald Mustard. Uh.

2128
02:22:56.920 --> 02:23:00.719
I don't know, make a new
Shadow Complex. I would one they re

2129
02:23:01.000 --> 02:23:05.040
release shadow Complex at some point.
Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.

2130
02:23:05.399 --> 02:23:09.399
It's so good. Yes, it's
rising for Ben and West won the Game

2131
02:23:09.479 --> 02:23:15.079
of the Year award at the develop
Brighton conference. Oh all the stars,

2132
02:23:15.319 --> 02:23:28.399
oh complex? Does he pack host
a game awards still in his gear gear?

2133
02:23:30.600 --> 02:23:33.879
Be doing a packing pressure the entire
time, doing impacts gear? Yeah,

2134
02:23:35.079 --> 02:23:39.760
impacts gear. Yeah, that's gonna
look great. Last story, Nintendo

2135
02:23:39.879 --> 02:23:43.479
Direct maybe kind of. There's a
lot of speculation out there, and speculation

2136
02:23:43.520 --> 02:23:48.639
has arisen specifically because of a leaker
who basically said something along the lines of

2137
02:23:48.799 --> 02:23:52.520
F zero and we heard all year
long that have zero j X should become

2138
02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:56.680
the Switch. That's been a rumor, and now that seems like that could

2139
02:23:56.719 --> 02:24:01.600
happen as Direct this week. Wait
wait, let go back GX, that

2140
02:24:01.760 --> 02:24:05.920
was the game than Wait, So
there's rumors that g X is coming to

2141
02:24:05.959 --> 02:24:09.360
Switch, yes, which would mean
GameCube games coming to Switch. Well would

2142
02:24:11.559 --> 02:24:13.840
be like Metroid Primary Mastered. Right, I was wondering, like, oh

2143
02:24:13.840 --> 02:24:18.319
shit, they're gonna start doing NSO
GameCube games. It's like remastered. Ok.

2144
02:24:18.639 --> 02:24:22.040
There's definitely been like there's been a
lot of rumors sort of like maybe,

2145
02:24:22.319 --> 02:24:26.280
but like whenever we hear that It's
also like they probably wouldn't do it

2146
02:24:26.319 --> 02:24:30.600
as Nintendo Switch Online NSO games,
they would probably have an initiative to do

2147
02:24:30.799 --> 02:24:33.920
more things along the lines of Metroid
Primary Mastered, and that's exactly what we're

2148
02:24:33.920 --> 02:24:39.639
expecting from for zero g X if
it happens. There's other rumors including you

2149
02:24:39.680 --> 02:24:41.239
know this is from Pyoro, someone
who has a pretty good track record with

2150
02:24:41.319 --> 02:24:46.040
the Nintendo leaks in the in the
recent past. They're also leaking stuff that

2151
02:24:46.040 --> 02:24:48.440
says, hey, there's gonna be
a Donkey Kong game, and who's he

2152
02:24:48.559 --> 02:24:52.360
fighting. He's fighting Mario. So
maybe like some new Mario versus Donkey Kong

2153
02:24:52.440 --> 02:24:56.799
game. I never loved those.
Well maybe not that game, maybe not

2154
02:24:56.959 --> 02:25:00.159
that series exactly. It could be
a new from the game from the three

2155
02:25:00.200 --> 02:25:01.959
D Mario Team where you play us
Mario but you take on Donkey Kong or

2156
02:25:03.000 --> 02:25:05.319
something like that. That's I hope
that's always not like the March of the

2157
02:25:05.360 --> 02:25:09.239
Minnis, like the formula. I
never really did information because the lineage of

2158
02:25:09.319 --> 02:25:13.319
those games is straight from Donkey Kong
ninety four, which class it's ass yes,

2159
02:25:13.559 --> 02:25:16.319
that's an all time great game.
And then like the first Marrin's Donkey

2160
02:25:16.360 --> 02:25:20.520
Kong was bait. The gameplay was
exactly like that, and it slowly turned

2161
02:25:20.559 --> 02:25:24.319
more and more into a bad Lemmings
exactly. Bad Lemmings is perfect, yes,

2162
02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:26.559
yes, and that's why I never
like those games or a bad Krusty's

2163
02:25:26.639 --> 02:25:31.399
Funhouse. If you will, yeah, well if they do, if they

2164
02:25:31.399 --> 02:25:35.000
ever wind up doing GameCube games on
Nso I just worry that Manati wouldn't figure

2165
02:25:35.000 --> 02:25:37.680
out how to close the games.
Yea, and he wouldn't know, but

2166
02:25:37.079 --> 02:25:43.879
yeah, yeah, yeah, way, be like, oh, that's no

2167
02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:46.879
one likes those. You have the
case, you have to rip it out

2168
02:25:46.920 --> 02:25:48.680
of there, and it's fine,
it's fine, it's not You still put

2169
02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:52.639
your finger on the middle nub and
put some pressure on it, and if

2170
02:25:52.680 --> 02:25:54.159
you did that properly on the thing, it would pop it. There's another

2171
02:25:54.319 --> 02:25:58.799
nub. What you don't think there's
anything in the middle of the disk in

2172
02:25:58.920 --> 02:26:01.799
that case? Pull out your stupid
yellow labels. Okay, let's see,

2173
02:26:01.920 --> 02:26:05.399
pushing this does nothing. Pushing this, you don't put your finger on that.

2174
02:26:05.520 --> 02:26:09.559
Yes, they fold in a little
bit and you're just tearing your fucking

2175
02:26:09.639 --> 02:26:13.319
this out of every console in case, I beg you to pick up a

2176
02:26:13.360 --> 02:26:16.079
game cube case, right, now
this thing doesn't you know he will don't

2177
02:26:16.159 --> 02:26:22.440
Chella, what are you doing?
He's gonna eat so much? Doesn't move?

2178
02:26:22.879 --> 02:26:26.360
Yeah, there's there's other things of
rumors. But I think Dan might

2179
02:26:26.360 --> 02:26:31.719
be interested in my copy of the
Sonic Collection online. Oh you should do

2180
02:26:31.760 --> 02:26:35.399
it, dog, quick question?
Do you think with them teasing? Like?

2181
02:26:35.879 --> 02:26:39.680
Okay, never mind, forget my
very strangely let's see it. Let's

2182
02:26:39.680 --> 02:26:43.719
see it all right, he's opening
up. So wait, what are you

2183
02:26:43.879 --> 02:26:48.000
doing? Are you just pulling on
the edges and causing it to war up?

2184
02:26:48.440 --> 02:26:50.000
No, use a little bit of
no for leverage, but I don't

2185
02:26:50.040 --> 02:26:54.959
push down. What I'm saying leverage? Yeah, you're putting force push down.

2186
02:26:54.440 --> 02:26:58.399
It doesn't move at all. This
button no being this goal posts.

2187
02:26:58.440 --> 02:27:01.680
No, its you to put pressure
with your finger on the middle. You

2188
02:27:01.760 --> 02:27:05.719
put it on a panic in your
story a little bit, Dan, Okay,

2189
02:27:05.760 --> 02:27:09.760
but let's be clear. It is
crazy how Mike takes this stuff out

2190
02:27:11.760 --> 02:27:15.319
the game, force on it and
you barely have to lift it from the

2191
02:27:15.360 --> 02:27:18.159
outside. That's how you do it, right, hit the panic button.

2192
02:27:18.280 --> 02:27:20.120
That's right, exactly? Nice?
Nice, nice. We need to sell

2193
02:27:20.559 --> 02:27:26.440
shirt that says panic button. No. Yes, absolutely, that's the Royalty

2194
02:27:26.559 --> 02:27:33.159
the name of the site. You
go, Okay, there's a couple of

2195
02:27:33.280 --> 02:27:37.760
rumors from the direct maybe okay,
so I'm guessing Rhythm Heaven. But that's

2196
02:27:37.799 --> 02:27:43.000
I'm guessing that because the piro said
a DS and what was it like a

2197
02:27:43.079 --> 02:27:46.840
WE and DS remake or something like
that. It was something that was on

2198
02:27:46.000 --> 02:27:50.840
both, and it's like, okay, Rhythm Heaven was on both, but

2199
02:27:50.840 --> 02:27:52.959
there was also like a couple other
games that were like kind of obscure from

2200
02:27:54.000 --> 02:27:56.840
Nintendo that we're on both. Rhythm
Heaven is the one that makes the most

2201
02:27:56.879 --> 02:28:00.120
sensible. But some DS and Game
Boy Advance. No, the DS and

2202
02:28:00.920 --> 02:28:05.600
and WE Oh yeah, Elebates have
a game Boy Advance. No, there's

2203
02:28:05.680 --> 02:28:09.719
Elements just had the WE right,
and that Gameboy Advanced dyes and and and

2204
02:28:09.120 --> 02:28:13.799
we yeah, right right right,
Sorry, Yes, DS and Elements didn't

2205
02:28:13.799 --> 02:28:16.719
have a DS one. So trace
Memory is the other one. Yes,

2206
02:28:16.280 --> 02:28:22.360
that trace and I don't know anything
about that. It's like code memory and

2207
02:28:22.440 --> 02:28:24.319
trace memory or something like that.
Yeah, that'd be a bit surprising,

2208
02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:28.319
although we've gotten like fame Accom detect
That's exactly what I was thinking, the

2209
02:28:28.360 --> 02:28:31.879
Famicom Detective Club games. So I'm
not going to count out anything. Uh

2210
02:28:31.719 --> 02:28:35.680
so I don't know what we'll see, and then maybe a new ninety nine

2211
02:28:35.760 --> 02:28:39.799
game. So pack Man ninety nine
is going off the surface in September,

2212
02:28:41.479 --> 02:28:43.000
service in September, so it's like
they might have a ninety nine game to

2213
02:28:43.079 --> 02:28:48.520
replace that. Again, the rumors
maybe are gently pointing towards an F zero

2214
02:28:48.719 --> 02:28:58.000
ninety nine. I think, ye
war where ninety nine is fucking genius and

2215
02:28:58.040 --> 02:29:01.200
I would pay a lot of money
for that. I'm editing it out.

2216
02:29:01.239 --> 02:29:03.520
We're going to do this horny for
that. Yeah, let's make ninety nine.

2217
02:29:03.680 --> 02:29:09.600
Yes, Hey, is there ever
a world where they would smashify Mario

2218
02:29:09.760 --> 02:29:13.680
Kart, because I mean they already
have ink, but like I think,

2219
02:29:13.319 --> 02:29:16.280
point a lot of people are expecting
that from the next one almost at this

2220
02:29:16.399 --> 02:29:20.399
point, like would be would people
be upset if they removed Diddy Kong Racers

2221
02:29:20.559 --> 02:29:24.280
completely in F zero and just put
all those fools and Mario Karton? I

2222
02:29:24.360 --> 02:29:28.520
want a new Diddy Kong Racing.
What is the difference. I'm not as

2223
02:29:28.559 --> 02:29:31.799
familiar Diddy Kong Racing. You can
either plane the hovercraft or the cart and

2224
02:29:33.120 --> 02:29:35.399
it looks really good, and there's
like boss fights and it's it's like a

2225
02:29:35.479 --> 02:29:37.319
hub world. It's like the whole
structure is different. It's not just the

2226
02:29:37.399 --> 02:29:41.239
Mario Kart's crazy to me that game, like it was like such a huge

2227
02:29:41.239 --> 02:29:43.319
advance over Mario Kart sixty four and
yet it came out the same year.

2228
02:29:43.520 --> 02:29:48.159
That's such a weird time because Mario
christ four is using like pre rendered sprite

2229
02:29:48.200 --> 02:29:54.000
so these stuff. Yeah, like
Diddy Kong Racing was just straight up like

2230
02:29:54.120 --> 02:29:56.799
three D characters, So yeah,
better good enough credit. Diddy Kong Racing

2231
02:29:56.840 --> 02:30:00.559
is awesome. Okay, I'm just
put some Diddy Kong Race. How is

2232
02:30:00.600 --> 02:30:03.399
that not? That's not on mso
is it? No? I mean there's

2233
02:30:03.559 --> 02:30:05.920
yeah, they're kind of weird about
the rare games still, I do.

2234
02:30:07.079 --> 02:30:09.079
I do think that will kind of
couple. We don't have Done sixty four

2235
02:30:09.200 --> 02:30:15.399
yet, we don't have like Gemini
Dan. We were asking this question in

2236
02:30:15.559 --> 02:30:20.000
terms of what drink would you associate
with a racing game, So like espresso

2237
02:30:20.120 --> 02:30:24.520
would be grant Rismo, right,
buzz balls would be for it's a horizon,

2238
02:30:24.399 --> 02:30:31.440
what drink would you associate with Diddy
Kong Racing? Remember? Orbits like

2239
02:30:31.239 --> 02:30:33.600
I had the little balls on them? Yeah, the ball that was like,

2240
02:30:33.639 --> 02:30:37.760
it's kind of like balls, right, No, buz, balls are

2241
02:30:37.760 --> 02:30:41.120
alcoholic orbits are like it's like a
water, but it's got a little like

2242
02:30:41.200 --> 02:30:46.479
gelatinous like like hundreds of little balls. And I think she'd be called racing.

2243
02:30:46.799 --> 02:30:50.120
I think it's Capri Sun. I
think that's diddy coo. Sounds good.

2244
02:30:52.319 --> 02:30:54.719
Yeah, I mean like an Ecto
cooler like high Sea high see.

2245
02:30:54.079 --> 02:30:58.600
Oh okay, yeah, sure,
likes just exactly like my don't give them

2246
02:30:58.600 --> 02:31:01.280
credit, but Hi Se makes me
think, thank you. It's a different

2247
02:31:01.399 --> 02:31:05.600
vibe because it's like the box,
right, and then like the Capri Sun

2248
02:31:05.760 --> 02:31:09.159
sack. I don't know. I
like the pouch. The pouch is more

2249
02:31:09.200 --> 02:31:11.600
beachy. I don't like I think
something about it. Yeah, I was

2250
02:31:11.639 --> 02:31:13.479
a big fan of the pouch.
I was a big fan as a kid.

2251
02:31:13.680 --> 02:31:16.799
After you finished the box of Heissy, unfolding it and squishing it flat,

2252
02:31:18.799 --> 02:31:20.159
the pouch you can crink all over. It's like aluminum. You know

2253
02:31:22.680 --> 02:31:26.840
what game is the carton of milk
you would get at school worth the cardboard

2254
02:31:26.920 --> 02:31:28.399
like triangle you had to like fold
out, Like what game is that?

2255
02:31:31.559 --> 02:31:37.520
It's a racing game? Right?
Come on? That is the we've ever

2256
02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:41.840
said about I was gonna say with
motor Storm, which was there an icy

2257
02:31:43.239 --> 02:31:50.000
Yeah, box of milk there is? They're absolutely maybe it's chocolate milk.

2258
02:31:50.040 --> 02:31:54.239
Then I don't know. This analogy
is officially lost on me. Just what

2259
02:31:54.280 --> 02:32:01.680
do you prefer boxes or pouches of
drinks? Box? Probably boxes? Well,

2260
02:32:01.079 --> 02:32:05.360
here's the question is boxed wine.
Would you can say a box drink

2261
02:32:05.440 --> 02:32:11.440
or a pouch drink? The duality
of man there, everybody together, We've

2262
02:32:11.440 --> 02:32:18.680
always said this about boxed wine.
Okay, I love Matthew Rory extra life.

2263
02:32:18.760 --> 02:32:20.200
Last year I asked him, just
just buy me a bottle of wine,

2264
02:32:20.200 --> 02:32:22.959
that's all I want. He comes
in with a giant ass box of

2265
02:32:24.040 --> 02:32:28.520
wine. That's what was his reasoning, the affordability of it, or like,

2266
02:32:28.719 --> 02:32:31.399
oh this is all they had dared. I'm like, no, this

2267
02:32:31.520 --> 02:32:41.399
isn't all they had He's been.
That's fine. Everywhere has the bottle of

2268
02:32:41.520 --> 02:32:50.719
wine. No place only has boxed
wine. That would be the most psychotic

2269
02:32:50.799 --> 02:32:54.079
place on earth. Sorry, we
don't have beer, we only have forties.

2270
02:32:56.280 --> 02:33:00.559
I'd go to that place though.
That sounds pretty cool. Rory.

2271
02:33:00.600 --> 02:33:03.840
If you're if you're a chat,
let us know, I'm sure. Yeah,

2272
02:33:03.000 --> 02:33:05.559
he's usually lurking. Uh, that
doesn't for the news, Jan,

2273
02:33:05.600 --> 02:33:07.879
I'm handing this this ship show back
over to you. There you go.

2274
02:33:09.159 --> 02:33:11.959
I'm gonna look at it and rocket
to sleep because we need to take a

2275
02:33:13.040 --> 02:33:16.479
quick brick break and we'll be back
with some emails and some shoutouts and uh,

2276
02:33:16.040 --> 02:33:18.639
I don't know whatever else we want
to talk about for a little bit.

2277
02:33:20.840 --> 02:33:24.079
Hey, Dan, is there any
game that you wanted to talk about?

2278
02:33:24.600 --> 02:33:28.799
This isn't be setting up for anything. I think I need to wait

2279
02:33:28.840 --> 02:33:31.520
a day or two before I could
talk about that one. Oh oh okay,

2280
02:33:31.559 --> 02:33:33.360
okay, yeah, we'll just in
general, is there Beat Armored Core,

2281
02:33:33.559 --> 02:33:37.079
Beat Armored Corps? Uh, start
a new game plus on it?

2282
02:33:37.600 --> 02:33:39.959
Yeah? People were asking about new
game Plus. We were wondering, like

2283
02:33:39.000 --> 02:33:43.000
what what what makes that different?
Well, there there's missions near the end

2284
02:33:43.079 --> 02:33:48.399
where there's like this or that missions
and different boss fights and and things there,

2285
02:33:48.399 --> 02:33:50.920
so like you could see different endings
and stuff like that. And then

2286
02:33:50.280 --> 02:33:54.280
in actual missions, I've heard that
there are some where it's like, oh,

2287
02:33:54.360 --> 02:33:56.600
you're fighting these two mechs instead of
this one, or there's a decision

2288
02:33:56.680 --> 02:34:00.600
mid mission or something that didn't exist
the first time through. And then I've

2289
02:34:00.600 --> 02:34:03.399
heard New Game Plus plus adds even
more. I barely start a New Game

2290
02:34:03.440 --> 02:34:05.719
Plus, so I haven't seen a
lot of it yet. But yeah,

2291
02:34:05.799 --> 02:34:09.600
I run through the playing first playthrough
was fucking awesome. Just loved it.

2292
02:34:11.239 --> 02:34:16.280
Yeah, good game. Dan's enthusiasm, Dan's enthusiasm and Grub's enthusiasm got me

2293
02:34:16.319 --> 02:34:20.639
to go back in my enthusiasm.
I said it was good back. Enthusiasm

2294
02:34:20.760 --> 02:34:22.799
is shit. Mine is fucking hot, hot stuff. Actually game this game

2295
02:34:22.879 --> 02:34:28.559
a score? Are you? Are
you giving up on a grub or You're

2296
02:34:28.639 --> 02:34:33.040
You're still in? So apparently the
recent update fixed it. And so as

2297
02:34:33.120 --> 02:34:35.399
long as I can get my save
over on this PC because I'm just not

2298
02:34:35.479 --> 02:34:37.440
trusting the ally anymore, even though
I think it might be fine, I'm

2299
02:34:37.440 --> 02:34:41.319
definitely gonna keep playing it. I
like it way, way, way too

2300
02:34:41.399 --> 02:34:45.040
much. It's such a good game. There's some Unity news that folks.

2301
02:34:45.159 --> 02:34:46.360
Yeah, I wasna I was gonna
touch on it. This kind of happened

2302
02:34:46.360 --> 02:34:48.799
a little bit after I put the
news together. This morning. I'm here

2303
02:34:50.200 --> 02:34:52.319
my life's side of town. So
it's like I kind of did that first

2304
02:34:52.319 --> 02:34:56.719
thing with better That's right, Thank
you. Gotta keep me, keep me,

2305
02:34:56.000 --> 02:35:00.559
keep me, honest down. Okay, does this s weird to you

2306
02:35:00.639 --> 02:35:05.239
guys? Every time a game gets
installed, a developer has to pay more

2307
02:35:05.479 --> 02:35:09.799
money to the engine company. Does
that sound weird? I don't understand what

2308
02:35:09.920 --> 02:35:13.639
you just said. So Unity is
adding a new charge for every time a

2309
02:35:13.760 --> 02:35:20.319
game using the Unity Engine is installed, So even if the same owner and

2310
02:35:20.399 --> 02:35:26.520
the same license holder installs it on
and let's just read this story and then

2311
02:35:26.520 --> 02:35:28.239
we'll see if we can figure it
out. Starting January first, a Unity

2312
02:35:28.319 --> 02:35:33.200
run time fee will be charged to
any game that has passed a revenue threshold

2313
02:35:33.239 --> 02:35:37.120
in the past year and a lifetime
install count. The amount of the fee

2314
02:35:37.360 --> 02:35:41.079
and the thresholds in question vary depending
on the type of Unity subscription the developer

2315
02:35:41.159 --> 02:35:45.360
has. For Unity Personal and Unity
Plus users, the thresholds are two hundred

2316
02:35:45.360 --> 02:35:48.479
thousand dollars in revenue a year and
two hundred thousand lifetime installs, relatively low.

2317
02:35:50.040 --> 02:35:52.879
For Unity Pro and Unity Enterprise accounts, the thresholds are one million dollars

2318
02:35:52.959 --> 02:35:58.559
in revenue a year and one million
lifetime installs. This the fees also vary,

2319
02:35:58.680 --> 02:36:01.760
with You Personal developers having to pay
the most for every install above the

2320
02:36:01.799 --> 02:36:07.680
threshold twenty cents while Unity and enterprise
accounts pay the least one cent for every

2321
02:36:07.760 --> 02:36:11.479
install above two million, the fees
are reduced for developers in emerging markets.

2322
02:36:11.479 --> 02:36:16.600
Blah blah blah. Existing games built
on Unity will also hit with will be

2323
02:36:16.680 --> 02:36:20.280
hit with runtime fees if they meet
the threshold starting January first, So it's

2324
02:36:20.360 --> 02:36:22.719
backdated. So if you have a
Unity game, you're gonna kay. Does

2325
02:36:22.760 --> 02:36:28.399
this Does this count plate any style
of Unity game? It seems that way.

2326
02:36:28.520 --> 02:36:31.079
Yes, doesn't apply to non if
it's a game, If it's a

2327
02:36:31.120 --> 02:36:35.719
non game Unity application, it won't
count. Is Unity hitting the panic button?

2328
02:36:35.920 --> 02:36:39.879
And I do not mean the G
spot? I think so thank you.

2329
02:36:41.239 --> 02:36:46.600
Yes, Unity is in trouble.
Like the sentiment around Unity from game

2330
02:36:46.680 --> 02:36:50.600
developers before this was kind of in
the pits right this this seems like we

2331
02:36:52.719 --> 02:36:56.440
I don't know the guy, but
every time, I mean every company he's

2332
02:36:56.479 --> 02:37:01.360
running, genre Catello, I don't
think the guy knows what he's doing.

2333
02:37:01.000 --> 02:37:05.760
Like he's the CEO of Unity and
has been for a while, and before

2334
02:37:05.799 --> 02:37:07.920
that he was EA during like the
EA's worst period, even though they tried

2335
02:37:07.920 --> 02:37:11.000
some good games under Ricket tells.
So that's why I'm like Hessean like he

2336
02:37:11.079 --> 02:37:13.200
tried Mere's Edge, did they did
a bunch of stuff under him a lot,

2337
02:37:15.479 --> 02:37:20.319
Yes, exactly. This just feels
like they are trying to squeeze money

2338
02:37:20.399 --> 02:37:26.360
out of an ever like shallowing pool. Uh. And that's not the way

2339
02:37:26.440 --> 02:37:28.559
that they're that's not long term success, right, This is make money now

2340
02:37:30.000 --> 02:37:33.680
decision making. They do have a
quote here. We chose this because each

2341
02:37:33.719 --> 02:37:37.559
time a game is downloaded, the
Unity runtime is also installed, and that's

2342
02:37:37.600 --> 02:37:41.319
the company explained it why it's adding
the fee. Also, we believe that

2343
02:37:41.399 --> 02:37:45.239
an initial install based feel allows creators
to keep the ongoing financial games from player

2344
02:37:45.280 --> 02:37:50.600
engagement, unlike a revenue share.
Unity said that it's runtime code has billions

2345
02:37:50.680 --> 02:37:54.760
of downloads per month per month.
Additionally, Unity said it is retiring it's

2346
02:37:54.840 --> 02:37:58.799
Unity Plus subscription tier blah blah blah. Uh. Yeah, so I mean

2347
02:37:58.959 --> 02:38:03.000
that sounds bizarre, Okay, just
the kind of thing that I think it's

2348
02:38:03.000 --> 02:38:05.799
going to scare away people who were
already hesitant about using units. Why make

2349
02:38:05.799 --> 02:38:11.079
a free to play game and Unity
right end on top of that, this

2350
02:38:11.280 --> 02:38:16.120
is just like talking about anytime Unity
is like being installed and run, right,

2351
02:38:16.879 --> 02:38:22.239
What about a demo for a game
that's a very good point, Jim.

2352
02:38:22.840 --> 02:38:24.440
Or or what about what's someone pirates
a game? Well, okay,

2353
02:38:24.479 --> 02:38:28.479
so the demo would be okay,
so like if it's an early demo,

2354
02:38:28.440 --> 02:38:31.719
right, it would be before the
game meets a certain threshold. But you're

2355
02:38:31.760 --> 02:38:37.360
right, piracy could happen after the
game meets these dollar and salt thresholds.

2356
02:38:37.200 --> 02:38:43.399
Yeah, this is zoo. I
mean, if I'm a developer and I'm

2357
02:38:43.440 --> 02:38:48.479
like looking at my options, this
just makes Unreal look more appealing, even

2358
02:38:48.520 --> 02:38:50.079
if it's even if it's like you're
making the game that's not great for Unreal.

2359
02:38:50.399 --> 02:38:54.479
Developers are always pointing to that good
Dough as a as a really good

2360
02:38:54.479 --> 02:38:56.719
alternative for Unity. I have no
idea how viable that is, but good

2361
02:38:56.799 --> 02:39:03.239
Dough yeah yeah, good get gal
yeah maker, yes, RPG maker,

2362
02:39:03.440 --> 02:39:07.520
there you go. I just you. Yeah, people are playing if Unity

2363
02:39:07.559 --> 02:39:11.799
goes away, like the Unreal has
no competition, but it's all it's already

2364
02:39:11.920 --> 02:39:16.879
kind of that's the situation already.
Yeah. It feels like wasn't that long

2365
02:39:16.879 --> 02:39:20.959
ago, like man, Unity's gains
seems so impressive and everybody was Unity this

2366
02:39:20.159 --> 02:39:26.399
Unity then yeah yep, yeah,
I don't know. I suppose that like

2367
02:39:28.000 --> 02:39:30.879
maybe this is an alternative, like
they say, an alternative to revenue sharing.

2368
02:39:31.280 --> 02:39:33.440
But to me, that number,
it just seems like twenty cents per

2369
02:39:33.520 --> 02:39:37.239
download is actually gonna be pretty significant. It's gonna add up fast. But

2370
02:39:37.280 --> 02:39:41.120
people to stop naming things Unity.
Remember when Assassin's Creed named a game Unity

2371
02:39:41.200 --> 02:39:43.040
that didn't go well, yeah,
it wasn't great for them. No,

2372
02:39:43.120 --> 02:39:45.040
definitely, I gave a game in
ninety two. I liked it a lot.

2373
02:39:45.159 --> 02:39:48.799
According to Sean, uh, what's
it called demos will count as well,

2374
02:39:50.280 --> 02:39:52.799
so that I mean it definitely will
count. Yeah, because anytime you're

2375
02:39:52.840 --> 02:39:56.319
in staying the that's what they're saying, anytime you install the Unity run time

2376
02:39:56.360 --> 02:40:01.440
engine. So that's gonna be anytime
I mean stole anything that runs on Unity.

2377
02:40:03.000 --> 02:40:05.360
Freemium sounds like, yeah, if
you make a free to play game,

2378
02:40:05.399 --> 02:40:09.760
you're not getting anything at the top. You're gonna have to pay for.

2379
02:40:09.000 --> 02:40:13.840
Oh what the hell? That's bad? Yep, so fun fun,

2380
02:40:13.159 --> 02:40:18.760
that's uh, that's Unity's current situation. Uh, we'll see. There's probably

2381
02:40:18.799 --> 02:40:20.200
going to be a backlash to this
from developers, and we'll see if you

2382
02:40:22.000 --> 02:40:26.000
sign it, go ahead, grub
I was going to say Unity probably might

2383
02:40:26.040 --> 02:40:28.159
have been expecting that, and I
think what they'll do here, so like,

2384
02:40:28.200 --> 02:40:30.520
oh, well, we're everything,
and they probably already had some ideas

2385
02:40:30.520 --> 02:40:31.879
in mind about what they're trying to
get away with this. We'll see if

2386
02:40:31.879 --> 02:40:35.879
they actually do get away with it. Sign guy Bubs in the chat mentions

2387
02:40:37.399 --> 02:40:41.000
you heard of review bombing, now
we've got install bombing. Oh Jesus,

2388
02:40:41.120 --> 02:40:46.920
yeah, Jesus, guys. Okay, emails, Yeah, these are the

2389
02:40:46.959 --> 02:40:54.079
emails. These are the show emails. Uh. We actually received a lot

2390
02:40:54.159 --> 02:40:58.319
of emails, so thank you for
sending your emails to bomb cast at giant

2391
02:40:58.360 --> 02:41:03.799
bomb dot com. We ran a
little long today, so we're gonna read

2392
02:41:03.879 --> 02:41:07.079
less emails, but I appreciate all
of them for coming in. First email

2393
02:41:07.520 --> 02:41:13.280
comes from Matt from Mesa, Arizona. Good morning. I came up with

2394
02:41:13.399 --> 02:41:18.079
a bad show idea for you.
Get as many Jeffs together as you can,

2395
02:41:18.239 --> 02:41:22.360
playing overcooked, and they always have
to say yes Jeff when someone needs

2396
02:41:22.440 --> 02:41:26.559
something. Matt basically Arizona. He
doesn't even have the name. Too many

2397
02:41:26.639 --> 02:41:28.840
Jeff's in the kitchen, right,
Oh that's good. Too many Jeffs.

2398
02:41:30.000 --> 02:41:31.799
Yeah, Backlar, This isn't for
them, This is for me and you.

2399
02:41:31.879 --> 02:41:35.120
What do you think we can get
Jacanata, we can get Jeff Kieley

2400
02:41:35.520 --> 02:41:45.520
and we get like, yes,
Jeff sain Cheff knows every time I see

2401
02:41:45.600 --> 02:41:46.600
him, he knows. You could
tell all right, we'll get the work

2402
02:41:46.639 --> 02:41:50.040
period. Yeah. Yeah, it's
gonna get a good time. Also,

2403
02:41:50.159 --> 02:41:52.159
it's too many cooks. That's probably
I didn't. I didn't say the pun.

2404
02:41:56.600 --> 02:42:00.479
Still, that's still I watched that
the other day. That's feel really

2405
02:42:00.520 --> 02:42:03.319
good. Yeah, it was really
well made. Jeff's in the kitchen still

2406
02:42:03.360 --> 02:42:05.600
works. Personally, I listen,
I don't. I'm not against it,

2407
02:42:05.680 --> 02:42:09.719
Mike, but it's just like that's
why they get a little against it there.

2408
02:42:09.559 --> 02:42:15.639
I was at a restaurant that really
reminded me of the Bear while I

2409
02:42:15.760 --> 02:42:22.559
was away in Rubo specifically, and
everyone in that restaurant was also thinking the

2410
02:42:22.639 --> 02:42:24.639
same thing. And when we would
pass people, they'd be like, it's

2411
02:42:24.639 --> 02:42:26.440
just like the bear, right,
It's just like the bear. Right,

2412
02:42:26.840 --> 02:42:30.680
what's that? What's that mean?
Like? I guess I second see the

2413
02:42:30.719 --> 02:42:35.680
season of the bear. Just like
there's a certain energy that that kitchen exudes.

2414
02:42:35.959 --> 02:42:39.440
And this was like an exposed kitchen
where they were all I would imagine

2415
02:42:39.479 --> 02:42:43.479
most kitchens are like that. Where
it's like a high profile kind of Ye,

2416
02:42:43.639 --> 02:42:45.639
it's a new hanness, man.
You know. You put the kitchen

2417
02:42:45.680 --> 02:42:46.680
in the front, the dining in
the back. That's how it works.

2418
02:42:46.719 --> 02:42:50.840
Now. The chef obs in San
Diego. You go through the kitchen to

2419
02:42:50.879 --> 02:42:52.959
go to your seat. Yeah,
there you go, there you go,

2420
02:42:54.479 --> 02:42:56.159
very very nice, very good.
Yes, Yes, Jeff, yes,

2421
02:42:56.280 --> 02:43:05.479
Jeff, all right. Email comes
from who's this come from? Where is

2422
02:43:05.520 --> 02:43:11.040
this? Ken? From Queens Good
Day Bombrino's What is the worst? Subtitle?

2423
02:43:11.799 --> 02:43:18.079
Halo Combat Evolved, Warcraft Orcs and
Humans, Metal Gear Rising, Revengeance,

2424
02:43:18.719 --> 02:43:24.360
Dying Like Two Stay Human Arc Survival
Evolved, Dragon Saber after story of

2425
02:43:24.520 --> 02:43:30.680
Dragon's Spirit Ken from Queens New York. Those are all bad, you know.

2426
02:43:31.040 --> 02:43:33.639
From Queens New York is so fine. Subtitles Oh wait, that's just

2427
02:43:33.680 --> 02:43:37.639
the email I'd like to throw in
for whom the Bell toils from, curse

2428
02:43:37.719 --> 02:43:43.959
Crackers Crackers and whom the Bell toils
is fine? But there's two. They're

2429
02:43:43.000 --> 02:43:48.799
trying too much here. You got
curse curs already colon for whom the bell

2430
02:43:48.120 --> 02:43:52.959
b E L L E because that's
the character's name, toils instead of tolls.

2431
02:43:52.159 --> 02:43:56.200
We're trying too much here, folks. That's that's my boat. There's

2432
02:43:56.239 --> 02:44:01.639
a Shimagami Tenside game. I think
the longest name game I had in my

2433
02:44:01.680 --> 02:44:07.920
colliption. It's Devil Summonar two,
right, Duo Kuzan Noha versus King Abadon

2434
02:44:09.000 --> 02:44:16.399
Jesus h what is? It's just
so dumb, like what we're doing.

2435
02:44:16.639 --> 02:44:20.920
Did you guys see that the Attack
on Titan News or like attack on Titan

2436
02:44:20.079 --> 02:44:24.239
Season four, Part three, Part
two is out? Oh? It makes

2437
02:44:24.239 --> 02:44:28.719
sense though, it makes sense to
me. Okay of the rings Arts game

2438
02:44:28.799 --> 02:44:31.719
that had like a really long subtitle
when they made an expansion for it,

2439
02:44:31.799 --> 02:44:35.319
I have to find that. Now
I've been wondering, what do they do

2440
02:44:35.399 --> 02:44:37.440
with the next Mortal Kombat. Is
it Mortal Kombat two? No? I

2441
02:44:37.719 --> 02:44:41.479
have to think of something else now
one two? I think it'll be a

2442
02:44:41.559 --> 02:44:45.399
word. They did it two titles. They did two with the number two

2443
02:44:45.399 --> 02:44:48.760
because the original had the Roman numeral
two. But the original Mortal Kombat three

2444
02:44:48.959 --> 02:44:50.879
was the number so if you did
Roman three, that would be a new

2445
02:44:50.959 --> 02:44:54.280
title. So I think they do
The next one is Mortal Kombat two,

2446
02:44:54.319 --> 02:44:58.200
and then they go to names after
that. I think the I think they'll

2447
02:44:58.200 --> 02:45:01.120
goot a subtitle slash like the one
or do you consider as subtitle? Is

2448
02:45:01.200 --> 02:45:07.840
like a subtitle for Assassin's Creation because
people don't anymore. People don't write the

2449
02:45:07.879 --> 02:45:11.120
colon anymore. Write. When I'm
writing about it, I'm like, I

2450
02:45:11.159 --> 02:45:13.120
don't care what the style is.
I'm still going to put the coal in

2451
02:45:13.120 --> 02:45:16.120
there. That's a subtitle. Yeah, what is like like Horizon zero Down

2452
02:45:16.440 --> 02:45:20.479
Zero Down doesn't have a colon,
but like Twisted Metal Colon Black does.

2453
02:45:20.559 --> 02:45:22.360
So it's like some dude, some
don't. Yeah. I think there's that's

2454
02:45:22.360 --> 02:45:26.319
all the style stuff from these companies
and I don't respect any of it.

2455
02:45:26.360 --> 02:45:30.719
I'm putting the coal in there.
Yeah. And so here is this,

2456
02:45:30.879 --> 02:45:33.319
Yeah, there's this. The expansion
this game was called The Lord of the

2457
02:45:33.440 --> 02:45:37.680
Rings The Battle from Earth to the
Rise of the Witch King. Jesus,

2458
02:45:37.520 --> 02:45:41.319
I'm yeah, that sucks. I
give up on subtitles after getting really invested

2459
02:45:41.360 --> 02:45:46.639
in the Mission Colon Impossible series because
yeah, the last the newest one is

2460
02:45:46.719 --> 02:45:52.360
Mission Colon Impossible, M Dash Dead
Reckoning Part one. Yeah, and then

2461
02:45:52.399 --> 02:45:56.040
you're like, M Colon I hyphen
two for M I two. Yes,

2462
02:45:56.680 --> 02:46:01.440
So yeah, I remember it.
So like Jedi the video game was Dark

2463
02:46:01.479 --> 02:46:05.520
Forces to Jedi Knight, so for
a while, to amuse myself, whenever

2464
02:46:05.520 --> 02:46:07.680
they made sequels, I would try
to keep that going. So it was

2465
02:46:07.879 --> 02:46:13.360
Dark Forces for Jedi Night three,
Jedi Outcasts to Jedi Academy. That's just

2466
02:46:13.440 --> 02:46:18.520
awesome. That's like, yeah,
that's incredible. That yeah, I actually

2467
02:46:18.559 --> 02:46:24.639
applaud that at this point. All
right, all right, last email of

2468
02:46:24.920 --> 02:46:28.680
the show, and once again I
like to thank everyone that emailed in a

2469
02:46:28.760 --> 02:46:33.799
lot of good emails, great emails
even but we're we're running short time because

2470
02:46:33.000 --> 02:46:37.159
we talked a lot. This one
comes from Rebecca in the UK, and

2471
02:46:37.360 --> 02:46:43.600
this may appeal to all of us. Actually, dear, heb gbs browsing

2472
02:46:43.680 --> 02:46:46.559
eBay just now, heb gbs.
That's good browsing eBay. Just now.

2473
02:46:46.639 --> 02:46:52.399
I've stumbled across a listing for a
Nintendo GameCube claiming to have been signed by

2474
02:46:52.440 --> 02:47:03.319
the band alter Bridge. Under okay, oh that's j b Roubo Dad,

2475
02:47:03.399 --> 02:47:09.159
I'll pay you five dollars to make
a cover of that suck, currently sitting

2476
02:47:09.239 --> 02:47:13.040
at its starting bid of ninety nine
English pennies. Quite why would someone want

2477
02:47:13.120 --> 02:47:16.159
this? Is beyond me? Is
the Nintendo GameCube? The Alter Bridge of

2478
02:47:16.239 --> 02:47:22.239
consoles. If not, which musician
best represents what Let's do this. Yeah,

2479
02:47:22.280 --> 02:47:24.719
okay, yeah, the gamecub,
the alter Bridge, the game cube?

2480
02:47:24.920 --> 02:47:30.760
Oh man, I do okay listen
two? Yeah, I like that.

2481
02:47:31.079 --> 02:47:33.520
I was gonna say smash Mouth.
I think mouth. Yeah, have

2482
02:47:33.639 --> 02:47:37.920
some respect for the fucking game cube. I don't I get it, smash

2483
02:47:39.000 --> 02:47:43.840
mouth, all right, hear me
on here? No? No, I

2484
02:47:43.000 --> 02:47:48.959
think it might be the my Chemical
Romance. Okay, I think the GameCube

2485
02:47:50.000 --> 02:47:52.879
might be like the Monkeys. No, this is old. I know it's

2486
02:47:52.920 --> 02:47:56.000
old, but like it's it's kind
of like innocent. They're not like led

2487
02:47:56.120 --> 02:48:00.319
Zeppelin or something, you know,
It's like they're the Stones or some one

2488
02:48:00.360 --> 02:48:03.719
too is led Zeppela? Okay,
maybe the led Zeppla. Let's take the

2489
02:48:03.719 --> 02:48:07.079
game Superintendo is the Beetles. Superintendo
is the Beetles. No, Genesis is

2490
02:48:07.159 --> 02:48:13.520
the saturns if supers the Beetles,
and jessis is Rolling Stones. Yeah,

2491
02:48:13.200 --> 02:48:18.319
I think Dreamcast is like beck Dreamcast
is real big fish and there's nothing else.

2492
02:48:20.879 --> 02:48:28.000
Yeah. Sure? What is the
PS two? I feel like I

2493
02:48:28.079 --> 02:48:31.719
was gonna say nas or like jay
Z. Oh yeah that jay Z is

2494
02:48:31.760 --> 02:48:35.239
a good one. Yeah. Is
the Xbox three? Sixty like Daft Punk.

2495
02:48:35.000 --> 02:48:39.799
Who it's gotta be more mainstream than
that. I guess. I think

2496
02:48:39.840 --> 02:48:43.159
it's a green day, not just
because it's green. Yeah, really,

2497
02:48:45.479 --> 02:48:50.399
that's like the game dot com.
Unfortunately, PlayStation three is imagine Dragons.

2498
02:48:50.079 --> 02:48:54.520
No, I see, but imagine
Dragons came out too late to be considered

2499
02:48:54.600 --> 02:49:00.280
what the imagine of its time?
Sure, I just I just cannot eight

2500
02:49:00.520 --> 02:49:07.399
that make songs with that press radioactive
or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I

2501
02:49:07.479 --> 02:49:11.440
think daft punk is a virtual boy
actually okay, sure, yeah, okay,

2502
02:49:11.680 --> 02:49:18.799
okay, m GameCube though GameCube?
Yehaube? Is it each boys?

2503
02:49:18.399 --> 02:49:22.479
No, I just don't like all
the sixties stuff you're throwing out. Did

2504
02:49:22.559 --> 02:49:26.920
your parents like only listen to older
allowed to listen? Yes? His dad

2505
02:49:26.000 --> 02:49:30.879
literally said anything after the sixties is
not it's just seventy seven eight was the

2506
02:49:30.920 --> 02:49:33.120
cutoff, and they stopped making music
after seventy eight. And I was mocked

2507
02:49:33.360 --> 02:49:37.920
relentlessly if I listened anything they playing
instruments, but it's not music exactly.

2508
02:49:39.159 --> 02:49:41.879
Yeah, technically Rage Against the Machine
is a band because they have guitars,

2509
02:49:41.959 --> 02:49:45.879
but it's not music, right,
Yeah. Game GameCubes handsome GameCube is the

2510
02:49:46.239 --> 02:49:52.479
bop of Okay, no takers on
that one. It does. I feel

2511
02:49:52.479 --> 02:49:54.920
like it should be pop punk.
I'm just not sure which pop punk?

2512
02:49:56.319 --> 02:50:01.280
Oh? Is it Simple Plan?
Yeah, it's pretty that's Sae. That's

2513
02:50:01.360 --> 02:50:05.719
that. Yeah, it's it's some
forty one. It's some forty one.

2514
02:50:05.680 --> 02:50:09.879
Okay. Some forty one is actually
pretty good. Which of the consoles is

2515
02:50:09.959 --> 02:50:13.520
the Outcast? Oh? I've got
yelled at for not knowing who that was.

2516
02:50:13.760 --> 02:50:16.959
Yeah, just shut your I can't
believe you don't know who. I

2517
02:50:16.000 --> 02:50:22.079
guess that's my favorite. He is
not that far off in age from me,

2518
02:50:22.520 --> 02:50:26.719
and I also grew up in the
Midwest, and Outcast was fucking everywhere.

2519
02:50:28.479 --> 02:50:33.360
You couldn't even four speaker box below
like the Jacksonaros, so fresh and

2520
02:50:33.399 --> 02:50:39.959
clean everywhere. Heay, go on, it's not about me here, gamecubs

2521
02:50:39.000 --> 02:50:45.760
the kids bop because it's so kitty. It's for kids. Outcast, theodos,

2522
02:50:45.799 --> 02:50:48.639
Outcast. Okay, Okay, I
like that. I like that a

2523
02:50:48.719 --> 02:50:52.760
lot. Okay, so we are
we are we settling on some forty one

2524
02:50:52.000 --> 02:51:00.159
for game Mike. Okay, who
is that? I'm forty one one.

2525
02:51:01.239 --> 02:51:03.520
Some forty one is Canadian pop punk
band? Is that like Suit of fifty

2526
02:51:03.600 --> 02:51:09.840
one or whatever, the exact same
thing fresh What's what's some forty one's most

2527
02:51:09.879 --> 02:51:18.600
famous song? But probably I'm in
Chibi robo in my it's not a real

2528
02:51:18.680 --> 02:51:22.120
song. You're making this up.
You can't even see it. You don't

2529
02:51:22.120 --> 02:51:26.559
even do I don't know anywhere.
That's we're explaining melody. You don't know

2530
02:51:26.680 --> 02:51:31.239
anything melody. That was the song
that was? That's it. That's the

2531
02:51:31.319 --> 02:51:39.000
melody? Am I like Avril Levine
for game? Isn't there some kind of

2532
02:51:39.079 --> 02:51:46.520
like circa two thousands band that's like
all fun being married to the guy in

2533
02:51:46.639 --> 02:51:48.159
some forty one for a while,
I think, thank you, Biscuit.

2534
02:51:48.159 --> 02:51:52.120
I'm done in the show. Gamekeepers
la biscuit. Allright, somebody making my

2535
02:51:52.239 --> 02:51:58.040
way video of like Sunshine or something. The Toto totally would have used my

2536
02:51:58.159 --> 02:52:01.680
way for a like a back then, was Mario is getting tribal tattoos and

2537
02:52:01.719 --> 02:52:09.200
stuff? Yeah, but they need
the edit with like the interview with the

2538
02:52:09.319 --> 02:52:13.600
rock so call that JR. Uh
huh Yeah, seem like JR Is yelling

2539
02:52:13.639 --> 02:52:20.760
about Game cub Yeah, I asked
Final Fantasy X too, I pause,

2540
02:52:20.040 --> 02:52:26.200
said offspring, but that's definitely dreamcast
because of Yeah, yeah, I anytime

2541
02:52:26.239 --> 02:52:28.959
I listen to My Way, I
have to pause it midway through and do

2542
02:52:30.079 --> 02:52:33.000
the do the promo to myself.
And the weird part about Debrah managing the

2543
02:52:33.079 --> 02:52:41.559
rock Yeah yeah is PlayStation one,
Metallica, saturns, Megadeth. I just

2544
02:52:41.639 --> 02:52:48.479
said that with such conviction. That's
question one. Ges On's like Beastie Boys,

2545
02:52:48.520 --> 02:52:54.639
I think, I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guess what

2546
02:52:54.760 --> 02:52:58.319
in Town sixty four would be?
I have no we avoid that. The

2547
02:52:58.360 --> 02:53:07.760
cotton I guy. Oh good,
No, that's in television, and television

2548
02:53:07.879 --> 02:53:13.159
is on bowing up. They be, they might be giants, they might

2549
02:53:13.200 --> 02:53:18.360
be giants. That dire straits.
I kind of like that. That's just

2550
02:53:18.440 --> 02:53:22.920
the Gameki was pixies. I like
that. Timmy good, that's good.

2551
02:53:24.079 --> 02:53:28.840
I can go with that. That
sounds that because he's has never ever gotten

2552
02:53:28.879 --> 02:53:33.719
worse a single day of my life. And I saw someone say that the

2553
02:53:33.879 --> 02:53:39.319
Nintendo switches the Taylor Swift and they're
right, yeah, now that makes ye

2554
02:53:41.000 --> 02:53:43.239
oh. I like presidency Presidents of
the United States for Anto sixty four for

2555
02:53:43.360 --> 02:53:46.719
some reason, that's good. M
J. Spinky or crash test dummies,

2556
02:53:48.120 --> 02:53:54.200
turbographics is the spin doctors. Yeah, just saying that is just that one.

2557
02:53:54.600 --> 02:53:58.840
What's that one song? They have
got it? Yes? Yeah,

2558
02:54:00.360 --> 02:54:01.959
yeah, you know the game Boy
Color is the Doobie Brothers. Right.

2559
02:54:03.879 --> 02:54:07.360
I really want there to be an
Iron Maiden console, but I worried it

2560
02:54:07.360 --> 02:54:09.920
would be something like the Jaguar or
something. Oh yeah, does this make

2561
02:54:11.040 --> 02:54:15.600
sense if I say this? Nintendo
DS? No? No, the Nintendo

2562
02:54:15.680 --> 02:54:20.600
three DS is the Food Fighters of
consoles. Sure, yeah, Nintendo DS

2563
02:54:20.840 --> 02:54:26.000
is the Steely Dan. Yeah.
Yes, I love Lost the Thread.

2564
02:54:26.399 --> 02:54:28.520
I really like when was like this, this makes sense as if anything we

2565
02:54:31.639 --> 02:54:35.360
like a couple of things made sense
in the beginning. It really did.

2566
02:54:35.600 --> 02:54:39.000
And maybe because we were all like, you know, hive mindedly tell swift

2567
02:54:39.040 --> 02:54:48.000
is nothing's made more sense to make
doesn't like it? Okay, you know

2568
02:54:48.120 --> 02:54:54.200
Taylor was afraid to say it,
but I realized to say it because that's

2569
02:54:54.440 --> 02:54:58.799
a good excuse because I know she's
immensely popular. So yeah, yeah,

2570
02:54:58.319 --> 02:55:05.479
it's worth get off. Yeah off. Oh you're not even doing ability?

2571
02:55:05.920 --> 02:55:11.840
What is this? Jan It's high
it's you. You're the problem. It's

2572
02:55:11.920 --> 02:55:18.959
you. I have the problems sometimes
what band is like? Yeah? Man,

2573
02:55:20.120 --> 02:55:24.920
okay, go okay, there like
Velvet Revolver. Oh okay, all

2574
02:55:26.000 --> 02:55:28.200
right, last one and then we'll
get to the shout out so we can

2575
02:55:28.319 --> 02:55:37.159
end the show this week. Google
Stadium, that's that's like, what's what's

2576
02:55:37.200 --> 02:55:41.239
Garth Brooks's alter ego? It's Christian
Chris. Yeah. Google Stadium is like

2577
02:55:41.319 --> 02:55:45.719
a person who won the Voice and
then never had a career. Yeah,

2578
02:55:45.799 --> 02:55:50.680
I mean everyone who ever won one
of those shows that Yeah, that wasn't

2579
02:55:50.719 --> 02:55:56.600
like Carrie und Yeah, yeah,
she didn't even win that season though she

2580
02:55:56.840 --> 02:56:01.760
wont one matter on. You just
had to like be on the show.

2581
02:56:01.879 --> 02:56:09.000
Usually had a bigger career. He
was the third place person because apparently that

2582
02:56:09.200 --> 02:56:13.239
is still a show. Is Carrie
Underwood? Is that who does the dog

2583
02:56:13.319 --> 02:56:18.639
Markey? That's her? Yeah,
Yeah, that's her. Go to any

2584
02:56:18.719 --> 02:56:20.239
Dansas karaoke bar, you'll hear that
seven times a night. Dan, I

2585
02:56:20.360 --> 02:56:22.600
heard you complaining about like those kind
of songs, and I was like,

2586
02:56:22.799 --> 02:56:26.360
yeah, the songs are lame,
but then that one. Every time that

2587
02:56:26.399 --> 02:56:28.440
one comes up, like, yeah, I kind of wish I was like

2588
02:56:28.200 --> 02:56:31.600
a mad like lady would broke it
a girl, just so that that song

2589
02:56:31.719 --> 02:56:35.959
spoke to me, because I feel
like it's very empowering. Does it not

2590
02:56:35.040 --> 02:56:39.280
currently speak to you? You never
took a Louis Bull's lugger to both headlights

2591
02:56:39.159 --> 02:56:48.600
lots. That's right. Next time
before bad Bitch, there we go.

2592
02:56:48.920 --> 02:56:52.159
Yeah, it a bad I kind
of want to have bad bitch fines.

2593
02:56:54.799 --> 02:56:58.840
I support your bad bitch vibes.
I just can't support your country music stuff.

2594
02:57:01.200 --> 02:57:03.959
Yeah, I guess I didn't really
even realize that one's country because it's

2595
02:57:03.959 --> 02:57:07.360
one of the country songs that gets
played on like the general like the mix

2596
02:57:07.479 --> 02:57:09.879
here we have race. We can
never talk about music again. I just

2597
02:57:11.000 --> 02:57:15.639
can't handle Mike. I can't everything. It's amazing, It's incredible. Did

2598
02:57:15.680 --> 02:57:22.319
you not go were you like homeschooled? That would explain when you talk about

2599
02:57:22.399 --> 02:57:26.079
music. It would explain like most
things about Mitch if he was homeschooled.

2600
02:57:26.239 --> 02:57:30.200
Yeah, constantly going to Disney World. It doesn't know who's fort you want?

2601
02:57:30.399 --> 02:57:35.120
Is that dogmckees? And to the
side of it is pretty little soup

2602
02:57:35.360 --> 02:57:39.479
up wheel draft. Yeah, we
need more country songs to empower men.

2603
02:57:39.600 --> 02:57:43.760
We're all though, Yeah, that's
right, we want Chattahoochie. Oh yeah,

2604
02:57:43.879 --> 02:57:46.200
god, I love that song.
When I went to a wrestling show

2605
02:57:46.559 --> 02:57:52.079
where a woman came out to Chattahoochie
on Saturday and it was amazing. Comes

2606
02:57:52.079 --> 02:57:58.360
out to Chattahoochie. She's from the
smallest town in Minnesota. Hey, next,

2607
02:57:58.440 --> 02:58:01.479
packs, do you think we can
all come out to music? Like?

2608
02:58:01.440 --> 02:58:05.639
Can I come out to the song
about smashing up my ex boyfriend's car?

2609
02:58:05.559 --> 02:58:09.399
Yeah? Yeah, because we need
bad bitch vibe? Sorry, suger,

2610
02:58:09.559 --> 02:58:13.520
I have a legal sucker bring.
Okay, you know it's got the

2611
02:58:13.559 --> 02:58:22.440
it's got the racists Indian on it
because it's old. This bad bitch is

2612
02:58:22.639 --> 02:58:26.680
voke. That is bad bitch vibes
right there, which came in too late

2613
02:58:26.760 --> 02:58:33.399
for the like Paxmania packs wrestling,
Hey days music? Yeah right, I

2614
02:58:33.479 --> 02:58:37.840
just want that for like music,
a regular decular panel. Uh yeah,

2615
02:58:39.479 --> 02:58:43.760
yeah, you do it all right, Jesus, I want to come out

2616
02:58:43.799 --> 02:58:48.479
to Gucci Gucci by Creation free Vas. All right, we've gotten to the

2617
02:58:48.520 --> 02:58:54.280
shout outs finally. Uh so we
can end the show. I've I've limited

2618
02:58:54.360 --> 02:58:58.920
to twenty five this week, and
then of course someone just has it out

2619
02:58:58.040 --> 02:59:01.760
for me. All right. No, but you're doing the right thing,

2620
02:59:01.120 --> 02:59:07.479
uh, cutting and pasting. If
you look at number twenty, Oh Jesus,

2621
02:59:07.600 --> 02:59:11.120
what happened? All right, let's
just show me a word limit to

2622
02:59:11.200 --> 02:59:16.079
these shouts? Out all the Disney
talk check out the nineties Disney podcast email.

2623
02:59:16.520 --> 02:59:20.280
How is this entire episode not dedicated
top to talking about how Manati was

2624
02:59:20.399 --> 02:59:24.959
literally an altar boy in the Church
of Disney. It's the most obvious backstory

2625
02:59:24.000 --> 02:59:28.360
of anyone at GB. It could
only beat topped if we found that Dan

2626
02:59:28.520 --> 02:59:31.319
was conceived on the bathroom floor of
a stadium talk about during WrestleMania. Nope,

2627
02:59:31.479 --> 02:59:41.840
and just karaoke bar. There's the
real story. H jenniebur Drive,

2628
02:59:43.840 --> 02:59:48.239
come name, keep that going through
the rest? Jan just read the rest

2629
02:59:54.639 --> 03:00:03.159
soft Mike Manati could be softer teeth, I think Jenni Stiebert the packs panels,

2630
03:00:03.200 --> 03:00:07.360
hell of fun AO, fuck the
at AMPTP. Hey, this is

2631
03:00:07.399 --> 03:00:11.680
doctor Ryan currently reporting for the inside
of epcots, saying that Beverly Drunk wasn't

2632
03:00:11.719 --> 03:00:15.000
too bad, pretty refreshing. Actually, don't understand why everyone dogs on it.

2633
03:00:15.200 --> 03:00:18.719
See him. Punk is fired by
Naya Jackson's back baby, brought to

2634
03:00:18.799 --> 03:00:22.680
you by Jan looking up unmatched and
suddenly becoming a board game perv. I'm

2635
03:00:22.719 --> 03:00:24.760
so sorry, Jan, Oh,
why did you do this to me?

2636
03:00:24.959 --> 03:00:30.959
Anti shout out Nintendo's weird authentication system
ruining packs talky moments, Jan you look

2637
03:00:31.000 --> 03:00:35.239
amazing, Farrell. I'd happily listen
to Disney Talk. Wrestling talk makes me

2638
03:00:35.319 --> 03:00:39.319
want to drink Magnetic controller fluid shouts
out to whoever the person was at Packs

2639
03:00:39.559 --> 03:00:43.040
voicemail, dumb truck, who did
smell amazing? A baby's handful of quick

2640
03:00:43.079 --> 03:00:46.920
bricky breaks? A male panic pun
is a prostate. It's located inside the

2641
03:00:48.920 --> 03:00:56.000
wrecks damn near red a medical train
on him. Power Bob cast, Please

2642
03:00:56.040 --> 03:01:01.719
don't worry. We will bed Star
cast casting, drink Aga Packs, Stephen

2643
03:01:01.760 --> 03:01:05.959
Hawking, robot voice, John Madden, John Madden aeiou holler, holler,

2644
03:01:05.200 --> 03:01:09.639
get dollar. Dear God in heaven. What is this next post? It's

2645
03:01:09.680 --> 03:01:15.440
a bit from game Grub game Mess
discord. This is funny, but it

2646
03:01:15.479 --> 03:01:18.040
ain't gonna fly. Shout out to
the game mess After super Metroid discussion,

2647
03:01:18.079 --> 03:01:20.799
what would you like to see the
best two D Metroid? Would you like

2648
03:01:20.920 --> 03:01:24.920
to see it from the perspective of
enemies? Perhaps? Were you just trying

2649
03:01:26.000 --> 03:01:31.600
to life? Your best life always
ends up at a six three goddess in

2650
03:01:31.680 --> 03:01:37.000
a blue suit step on you and
kills you because you're pathetic personally. I'd

2651
03:01:37.000 --> 03:01:39.399
be up for this would you remind
because it reminds me of my last X.

2652
03:01:39.840 --> 03:01:43.440
She was also pretty big Metroid fan, but also Metroid Prime three was

2653
03:01:43.479 --> 03:01:48.319
the best one, which just never
made sense to me personally because it suffered

2654
03:01:48.360 --> 03:01:52.840
from too much talking. Again,
it honestly didn't much like a Metroid Venia

2655
03:01:52.920 --> 03:01:56.399
to me. That and just the
general lack of originality coming from being the

2656
03:01:56.520 --> 03:02:01.319
third Prime game in short time.
I know Prime two gets hey as as

2657
03:02:01.399 --> 03:02:03.879
well, but at least the dual
world has some originality to it. Even

2658
03:02:05.200 --> 03:02:07.760
this is too long. This is
too long. I'm cutting this, Shark

2659
03:02:07.000 --> 03:02:13.159
cut it. You're gonna pay for
that twenty one spam. A sub chance

2660
03:02:13.200 --> 03:02:16.159
should read that Metroid post so we
can officially be better than Mitch. Oh,

2661
03:02:16.200 --> 03:02:20.040
I want to be better than Mitch
them New Game plus plus abide in.

2662
03:02:20.120 --> 03:02:24.719
Rubicon shouts out to record a digital
proof that GB crew are good.

2663
03:02:24.879 --> 03:02:28.719
Dad's yeah, I'll take that.
Uh yes, Daddy shouts out to Buttles,

2664
03:02:30.079 --> 03:02:33.280
keep yours healthy by eating your greens. That's been the shout outs.

2665
03:02:33.440 --> 03:02:35.639
We're gonna have to institute rules.
We can't today. We need rules,

2666
03:02:37.040 --> 03:02:43.879
We need little rules. You Huligan's
always doing it, but tried Anyway,

2667
03:02:43.360 --> 03:02:46.440
what do we got going on for
the rest of this week, folks?

2668
03:02:46.520 --> 03:02:48.360
Game mess for the rest of the
week. Voicemail dump truck, Blake Club

2669
03:02:48.479 --> 03:02:54.680
tomorrow. Jents. Yes, I
got off easy last week thanks to Mitch

2670
03:02:54.760 --> 03:02:58.360
going to baseball or something. But
I'll be donning the suit again tomorrow.

2671
03:02:58.760 --> 03:03:03.200
And hey, we made progress last
week getting there. We did in one

2672
03:03:03.239 --> 03:03:07.000
episode my game. Yet I need
to know. I gotta gub we really

2673
03:03:07.040 --> 03:03:09.360
gotta we gotta have a Yes,
let's power out of power figured out this

2674
03:03:09.440 --> 03:03:13.280
week. We'll figure it out this
week for sure. I am going to

2675
03:03:13.399 --> 03:03:18.639
be on the min Max Trivia Tower
next Tuesday, September nineteen, six pm

2676
03:03:18.799 --> 03:03:22.680
Central, by the way, so
look forward to that. Please good luck.

2677
03:03:24.040 --> 03:03:28.360
His community is insane, all right? With that? I have some

2678
03:03:28.559 --> 03:03:31.399
Assassin screen mirage footage that we're going
to talk over at some point. I

2679
03:03:31.440 --> 03:03:33.520
got some fourths or forts and motorsports
footage we'll talk over. We'll get the

2680
03:03:33.559 --> 03:03:37.000
first episode Columbros is out. First
episode of Columbros is out. Yes,

2681
03:03:39.079 --> 03:03:41.879
Colombo podcast. That's a good thing
to listen to. That. What else

2682
03:03:41.879 --> 03:03:45.200
has happened on John Bond this week? Game tom one is coming out soon

2683
03:03:45.680 --> 03:03:48.399
and a lot of us. I'm
playing it, a lot of us are.

2684
03:03:50.000 --> 03:03:52.079
Oh well, a lot of us
are going to be playing and talking

2685
03:03:52.079 --> 03:03:54.000
about it, so just keep it
high out. We don't know how much

2686
03:03:54.079 --> 03:03:58.000
or what form exactly, but Marvel
Combat Chat and coming soon for sure.

2687
03:03:58.360 --> 03:04:01.399
Yep, it'll be good stuff.
Yeah, look, look definitely something like

2688
03:04:01.479 --> 03:04:07.079
that on Friday. Yes, yes, uh, voicemail, thumb truck as

2689
03:04:07.239 --> 03:04:11.799
per usual, maybe some a couple
of quick looks. The Nintendo video and

2690
03:04:11.879 --> 03:04:16.959
the train travelog should drop this week, no promises, but I'm glad that

2691
03:04:16.000 --> 03:04:22.040
I got the Mike screaming, Mike, what was it? Oh, super

2692
03:04:22.200 --> 03:04:28.280
Bell Hill? Let's go so much? No idea? What the hell was

2693
03:04:28.319 --> 03:04:31.239
going on? There was a picture
of super Bell Hill, and then Victor

2694
03:04:31.360 --> 03:04:35.239
Lucas is like, it's not even
on my teleprompter yet, what the hell

2695
03:04:35.520 --> 03:04:37.680
he did it? He's like,
I'm gonna show you clips from these three

2696
03:04:37.760 --> 03:04:41.520
different Mario games. We're gonna play
the song from them, screaming about if

2697
03:04:41.520 --> 03:04:43.639
you know it. So first it's
like the bomb Battlefield, everybody screamed.

2698
03:04:43.879 --> 03:04:48.520
Then it was Adlfino Plaza scream.
He's like, okay, this next one's

2699
03:04:48.520 --> 03:04:52.200
a hard one, and he shows
it's dead silence, and then I just

2700
03:04:52.600 --> 03:04:56.479
scream the top of my lung,
super Bell Hill, let's go. And

2701
03:04:56.559 --> 03:05:01.280
if everyone's so bad to come out
great, And if the Nintendo Direct happens,

2702
03:05:01.440 --> 03:05:05.120
we'll we'll talk over it, of
course, right, we'll happen like

2703
03:05:05.200 --> 03:05:07.079
that. And last we are getting
a camera shoved up our asses. Then

2704
03:05:07.120 --> 03:05:11.680
we might be predisposed, all of
us. We all have to do your

2705
03:05:11.680 --> 03:05:16.120
cold's doing it. Solidarity with me? Right, I'm good for everything?

2706
03:05:16.200 --> 03:05:22.319
Yeah, all right, folks,
Sad has been a giant bomb cat.

2707
03:05:22.479 --> 03:05:26.559
Gonna get more than a quick look. It's time. If I'm not that

2708
03:05:26.719 --> 03:05:33.079
long, the fuck I've been Jan
he's been Jeff. He's also been Jeff.

2709
03:05:33.120 --> 03:05:37.680
He's been Mike, he's been Dan. You have been beautiful, except

2710
03:05:37.680 --> 03:05:41.520
for whoever wrote number twenty on the
shout out lists. Yeah, well,

2711
03:05:41.639 --> 03:05:45.719
beef Hammer. We'll make sure he
gets cheddered good. Yeah, all right,

2712
03:05:46.000 --> 03:05:48.040
We'll see you next week for another
episode of the Giant Bomb Cast.