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Hello, everybody, welcome. Here
we go Matt Connerton unleashed and we are

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and dreary out but still glorious downtown Manchester,

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etcetera. Today is Monday, September
eleven, twenty twenty three, and

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I'm not alone. They are darlings. I am present. Yes, Jenny

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is here at the news desk.
Yes, very drainy. That's the second

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time I stumbled on that dreary and
rainy. It's like I couldn't my brain

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couldn't decide between dreary and rainy,
so it came out dreny. Yes,

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a lot of people are feeling it
today, so the weather, I think,

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is feeling it a little too.
Yes, Yes, well we do

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have so coming up later in the
show in the second hour, we do

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have a great musical guest today,
Nolan Coda from Eons and Coded, which

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sounds like a band, but it's
actually just him. He does all the

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he does everything himself. He also
is in a band called Pointless Culture who

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is currently They've got an album coming
out soon. But but I had said

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to you recently, I said something
like, you know this guy from Ian's

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and Coded. I've been playing his
music for like two years now on the

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show because I love that song Reconnection. I play that all the time and

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it always gets a great response to
people in Travo will comment on it.

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I said, uh, you know
the guy he's on band camp says he's

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from Concord. We've been playing his
music for like two years. He probably

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has no idea, you know,
unless he's familiar with the show or somebody

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mentioned it to him, he probably
has no clue that he's got a he's

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got a hit song on the show. And that is one of my go

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to is because you know, obviously
we uh, we play a lot of

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music on the show, independent unsigned
artists, both locally and from other places

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too. But there's a short list
of songs that just get stuck in my

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head that just randomly pop into my
head even when I'm not thinking about the

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show. And Reconnection by Ian's and
Coded as one of them that riff,

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just that I can I can tell
you what they are. Actually, there's

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that one. There's a beautiful Nightmare
by Chasing the Devil that just randomly pops

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into my brain. Sometimes there's Revenge
by Edgewise, probably a couple of others.

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Oh yeah, well we are.
We are very blessed to have a

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lot of great musicians. Yes,
yeah, a lot of great musicians.

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Boy, when I started doing this, I didn't realize just what is out

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there, and there's a lot,
especially here in New Hampshire. We have

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a lot of really great talent.
Just I mean, seriously, folks,

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I'm not even kidding about this,
Like, go out see some of these

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live bands if you're not sure,
even if you if you see somebody here,

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drop me a note and I'd be
happy to hook you up with their

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page or their website so you can
go see him in person. Yes,

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indeed, Isaac Banks and the chat
room says, who's the guest on your

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show? Matt, It's as I
just mentioned, it's Nolan Coda from Ian's

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and Code it, He'll be here
in the second hour. We did open

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Our opening song today was The Rising
by Bruce Springsteen from the album of the

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same name, and that's kind of
an unofficial tradition on the show, usually

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on September eleven, you know,
if it falls on a weekday, of

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course, the We're here I like
to open with that. It's obviously not

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only is it about nine to eleven, but it also happens to be my

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favorite Springsteen song. I like Springsteen. I'm not a I'm not a big

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fan, but I'm a casual fan. But you know, but I like

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a lot of his stuff. I
don't like Born to Run. Oh it

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makes me nauseous when I hear it. Good. I didn't even like that

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when I was a kid. I
was like, it's so long. It

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feels like it's probably like a seven
I do well. Yeah, in fact,

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Reconnection by Ian's and Code it is
like seven and a half minut that's

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true. But but I don't know
Bording to Run it feels like it's,

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uh, it feels like it's seventeen
eighteen minutes long, and I know it's

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not. It's probably like five or
six minutes at the most. But it

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feels like it just goes on forever
anyway. But The Rising by Springsteen such

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a great song and I really like
that that full album, and of course

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the Rising is it's specifically about firefighters, uh, first responders on nine to

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eleven. I don't know if I
don't know if you know this, but

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Springsteen's Sun is a firefighter. I
did not know that. Yep, yeah,

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I did not know that. I
think I think just in the last

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few years he became a firefighter,
if I'm not mistaken. So I've always

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I've always really loved that song.
And yeah, it was when a number

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of months ago he was on Howard
Stern and you know Howard does. He's

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like two two and a half hour
interviews with these musicians, and uh yeah

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he actually Springsteen actually played some of
it on as a guitar. It was

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pretty cool because they had a long
discussion about that song specifically, and Springsteen

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talked about talked about, you know, the process of writing it, how

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it came to him, and that
that whole album, The Rising is about

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nine to eleven from what I I
haven't listened to it in a long time,

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but I think the whole thing kind
of centers around that and the aftermath

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of it and how Americans were feeling, and well how Springsteen was feeling,

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you know, how how he saw
things from his perspective. But and I

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remember too reading an interview with him
where he said he wanted to do something

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that was because some of the some
of the music that was coming out at

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that time, it was almost,
for lack of a better way of putting

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it, sort of revenge oriented,
like Toby Keith with that song courtesy of

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the Red, White and Blue,
you know, stuff like that. But

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uh, Springsteen wanted to do something
a little, a little deeper, you

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know what I mean. Well,
it was the one I'm Proud to be

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an American. Well that that song
got played a lot, but that that

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but that wasn't that was that long
predated nine to eleven Lee Greenway. It

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took the front row. I sure
my son's elementary school after nine to eleven

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they sang that song every morning before
school. Yeah, that's what they would

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do, is that song. They
couldn't have picked something better than that.

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They had all the kids singing it
to day. I don't believe. I

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do believe that many of them are
not very fond of that song anymore because

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it was literally played every single day. They had to sing it. Yeah,

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yes, every day. So yeah, I think it kind of hurt

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them on that, but I mean
nothing against it, but there's just better

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songs than that. What was what
the perminal picked and they didn't get a

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choice? You know what it is? It's it's just so cliche. It's

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like, oh that song really time? It wasn't. No at the time,

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everything any anytime that song is coming
to vogue, it's been cliche.

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Stop it. No, it was
at the time it was very I get

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it. I get it. I
get it, and I want to say

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something else to you, but I
will. They should have sung The Rising

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by spring Steen. That would have
been much better, right, but oh

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god, seriousness Greenwood, Yes,
yes, serious note. If we're going

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to talk about nine to eleven and
we're going to talk about the firefighters and

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the EMT, we need to talk
about the fact that they are still fighting

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today. I mean the New York
City I don't want to get the name

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of the New York City Organization of
Public Service Retirees is made up of teachers,

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but also of firefighters, EMTs and
police members who were there on nine

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to eleven, and now we're suffering
from nine to eleven diseases. Some of

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these diseases that are people are getting
sick with, they're not getting the benefit

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because it hasn't been recognized as an
official nine to eleven. But we still

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we they added, this is what
John Stewart's always fighting for, big time,

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big time, as I do believe
today there were over forty new names

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added to the memorial for the firefighters
and EMTs who are still dying from nine

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to eleven cancers and lung diseases.
That you know, they were told the

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air was safe. If they had
been told if there was a chance that

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it wasn't, they should have had
respirators. But at the time, what

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we you know, everybody is haul
hands on deck. Let's save as many

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lives as we can. But we
have to not forget that we're twenty two

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years out and there are families that
are suffering. There are people that are

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suffering that they shouldn't be. We
promised, we promised to the nine one

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one responders that we were going to
be there to take care of them no

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matter what. We were going to
be there to take care of them like

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they took care of us on that
horrific day, and we're not we're not.

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We're not necessarily holding up our end
of the bargain, folks, because

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they're having to fight. And I
want to say this right now, they've

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been fighting in New York Cities.
The retirees have been fighting to keep their

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Medicare, their traditional Medicare, and
they have a supplemental policy through the city

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and that's what they were promised as
part of their benefit package. Now that

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they're retired, there be the governor
of New York City or the mayor,

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excuse me, the mayor of New
York City, and the leadership of their

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union. Surprisingly, the leadership of
the union has rolled the boss over retirees

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and have tried to force them onto
a private Medicare advantage policy. Many of

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them, if forced onto a policy, could lose their hospitals, their providers

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that they've had for decades because those
providers and hospitals may not be within the

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network of the Medicare advantage plan that
would be chosen for them to end up

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having by force. Basically, they've
been fighting and winning in court. They've

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won at least six times in court, and they're going to continue to fight

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to protect their members and make sure
that we hold our promise to them and

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give them the care that they were
promised. You know, a lot of

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these guys take pay cuts wherever in
the in the promise that when they're retired,

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you're going to have Fital Medicare and
you're going to have this supplement that

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we worked with you before. They're
trying to do this to save money on

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the backs of nine on one responders, and that really makes me sick.

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If you want to read about it
for yourself, and I'll drop the link

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into the chat room as well,
you can go to NYC Retirees dot org

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and that's retirees plural NYC retirees dot
org. You can read about the battles

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that they have been waging and maybe
you can help. You You could always

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be a part of it by speaking
up and saying, hey, I'm standing

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with these guys and I'm not going
to let you force them into this.

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We got to keep them in the
public eye because it's when they get doors

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get closed and cameras go away that
people stop being quite so nice, you

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know what I mean. So they
need all the help and support that they

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can get. I was honored to
get to meet them on the last trip

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that I was at in DC with
be a Hero, And there are an

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amazing group of people. There was
about seventy of them that made the trip

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all the way down to DC that
day, many of them on a twelve

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our train. And they shouldn't be
having to do that. They retigh it.

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They should be home, retigh it. They shouldn't have to be fighting

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to have healthcare so they don't die
sooner than later. Well, you know,

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I have to say this, and
by the way, I have a

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short article here from Axios about first
responder deaths post nine to eleven that are

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linked to nine to eleven. But
I have to say, you know,

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I do love my country. But
one of the things that frustrates me,

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infuriates me frankly to no end about
America is that we are horrible at taking

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care of the people who put their
lives on the line for our country,

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whether it is veterans who serve,
who fight in wars for us on our

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behalf, who then get often terrible
treatment from the VA. You know,

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everyone's situation is different, that's not
across the board. Some people have positive

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experiences, far too many veterans have
negative experiences. They are homeless veterans,

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ors, all, all kinds of
ways that we fail are veterans. So,

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whether it's veterans that we send off
to fight our wars, or whether

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it's people who are trying to defend
the country right here at home. For

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example, when the worst terrorist attack
on American soil in American history happened and

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our first responders had to go and
respond to that. Again, the neglect

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of these people doesn't surprise me.
It infuriates me. Does it surprise me

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that we actually make these people fight
for every scrap, every crumb of help

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that they can possibly get from our
government that they were promised that they shouldn't

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They shouldn't have even had to have
been a promise. It should be obvious

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they're owed that they owed all the
help that they could possibly need. But

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of course we fail them. Of
course we do. It's no surprise.

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Look at how we treat veterans,
Look at how we treat these first responders.

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It's the same thing. There's always
a lot of happy talk about,

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you know, American heroes, American
patriots, and we have to we have

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to take care of them. They
took care of us. Now it's our

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our obligation, our duty to take
care of them. And then yeah,

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we just forget about it, and
we forget about them and we discard them

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like their trash. And that's what
has happened to these first responders. And

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this is a part of the problem
is unfortunately, it's one of those issues

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that unless you're really paying attention.
And thank god, you know John Stewart

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with his celebrity status, he's been
able to draw a lot of attention to

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this issue helping these people. Not
enough, It's never enough, apparently,

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because nothing ever actually changes. But
it's just incredible, But it's never It's

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never gonna be on anybody's top five
list of issues. You know, you're

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never gonna hear a political debate where
one of the questions is, you know,

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hey, what are we going to
do about these nine to eleven first

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responders who are all dying of cancer
or whatever other terrible illnesses they have that

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we're pretty sure we're caused by them
being exposed to everything that they had to

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inhale while they were cleaning up New
York City after nine to eleven, What

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are we going to do for them? That's never gonna be a debate question.

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It's never gonna be on anybody's top
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never gonna be on anybody's list top
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And it's so I mean again,
I love my country, but it's

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it's actually embarrassing that this is how
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whether it's first responders, anybody who
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in any way, risking their lives, and we promise them everything when the

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cameras are on, and like you
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ah, they're not gonna Yeah,
we don't need them whatever, Let them

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die, right. The count on
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a two week memory, and we
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every day. Something catches your eye. I'm guilty of it too. Something

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sure's your eye, and you forget
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thinking about. But our media forgets
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only take them back out on nine
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it again. We don't. We
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John Stewart has been able to bring
it up front. Absolutely, but we

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get on this time. You know, I've been talking to these people for

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months now that I found out that
they existed. I didn't know this group

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existed. I didn't know that they
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I did, I yeah, we
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We got to talk about this and
not stop talking about it. We have

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a call. Ron is on the
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I'm Matt Jenny. I'm gonna be
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on, and uh, I thank
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it and your facts they're facts,
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so much to say, but with
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drove around with flags and there was
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and that all disappeared over time.
How quick we forget. I wish that

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at least every September eleventh, all
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headlights on to say, you know, we remember, m Yeah, I

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remember when that that's it, I
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want to say that. I really
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to take up any more time.
All right, Ron, Well, we

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appreciate the call, my friend,
Thank you very much. Thank you guys,

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you got it. Bye bye,
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You had started to say something I
had okay, never mind, I thought

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you did. I don't think I
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want to look at this quickly.
This is a short article from Axios regarding

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what we were talking about, and
then we'll look at the chat room.

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But post nine to eleven first responder
deaths now nearly equal to attack casualties.

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So it says here the number of
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from Ground Zero related health complications is
now nearly equal to the number of first

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responders who died during the attacks.
The New York City Fire Department announced last

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week the addition of forty three names
of first responders who died from nine to

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eleven related ailments to its memorial at
the World Trade Center. The names added

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include those of firefighters, paramedics,
and EMTs. Fire Commissioner Laura Cavanaugh said

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an a press release, quote,
these brave men and women showed up that

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day and in the days and months
following the attacks to participate in the rescue

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and recovery efforts at the World Trade
Center site. We will never forget them

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unquote. In the twenty two years
since nine to eleven, three hundred forty

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one quote FDNY members have died from
rare cancers and diseases caused by the toxic

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dust at Ground Zero unquote. The
Uniform Firefighters Association wrote in a Facebook post

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on Monday, the count is nearly
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City firefighters who died on September eleven, two thousand and one. According to

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the New York City Police Department.
Twenty three NYPD officers died on nine to

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eleven. In the years since three
hundred, twenty three members of the force

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have died from nine to eleven related
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eleven has also impacted members of the
FBI and the Department of Defense. FBI

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Director Christopher Ray said last year the
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illnesses in the years since the attacks. Increased funding for the nine to eleven

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Victims Compensation Fund has long been has
long been the subject of an ongoing effort

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in Congress. I don't know if
efforts the right word. In twenty nineteen,

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the Senate voted to secure funding for
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and the legislation was signed into law
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I'm sorry. A new New York
law called the nine to eleven Notice Act

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will require large employers to inform current
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exposure zones of the attack about their
eligibility to register for federal programs providing compensation

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and healthcare for attack victims. New
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law. On Monday, hocal said, I'm never sure if it's Hocal or

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Hochel said in a statement, quote, on this solemn day of remembrance,

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let us not only honor the lives
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extend our support to the survivors.
They're loved ones and our first responders unquote.

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While those are some pretty words,
yeah, but we make them fight

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for it, don't we, Just
like we make veterans fight for all the

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care they need. And one of
the other things that's happening with them is

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if their specific diagnosis hasn't been entered
as an official nine one one disease,

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even if they were, you know, in there trying to find people the

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day that it happened, they can't
get any help. Yeah, it's got

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to be fought for. And and
it's ridiculous. I mean, it's these

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cancers that are coming down in large
quantities and lung ailments, especially so these

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firefighters and police and e mts.
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it on their own. They came
by at trying to save lives, right

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right. Absolutely, Let's not forget
they dug through the rebbel for how long

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trying I mean, oh yeah.
People don't realize, but it was like

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over that day. For weeks after
there were still there were still fires burning.

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were and just trying to move everything

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around, clean it out, all
that dust that was in there. It's

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concrete, it's chemical, it's the
fuel, jet fuel, it's smitherines of

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just metal fragments. All of this
stuff was getting inhaled. They weren't wearing

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respirators there, and you can go
back and watch the footage. Yeah,

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and there probably didn't have enough to
go around. No, I doubt it.

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I mean, well maybe I don't
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know. I know that there was
our nine eleven My and nine to eleven

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experience was I worked at in Jordan
Hospital in Plymouth at the time, Plymouth,

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Mass And you wouldn't think that we
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we did. Shortly after I got
home from work, I went right to

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sleep because I got out at seven
in the morning, and one of the

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nurses I worked with the night before
called and woke me up to tell me

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to get the TV on and that
she had just gotten a phone call from

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work. And I got a phone
call and they had put all of us

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on call, and the plan was
they were going to move stable patients out

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of the Boston area, bring them
down towards the Cape all the way down,

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fill up our beds with their stables, and then Boston was going to

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take New York's stable patients, opening
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care of what we all assume we're
going to be large quantities of wounded,

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not what he got called in,
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death. Yeah, that was the
quietest night of work I've ever worked in

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my life. I was on a
cardiac unit and we all just kind of

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like it was almost like being zombie. We didn't know what to think.

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I think we were all just like
the whole nation was just feeling horrified at

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what had just happened. Yeah,
and not getting called in was devastating to

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a lot of people. Well,
my experience that morning was I've told the

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story on the show before, but
just briefly, I was I didn't know

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what was going on until I got
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I was working at Strawberries on loudon
Rode and Conquered and I was where I

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lived. Was really close to where
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nice day out, if the weather
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to be it was a beautiful day, the weather was perfect. Sometimes I

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would just walk to work in the
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seven or eight minutes to just walk
to work. So I just walked to

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work that day. So I didn't
hear the news, and I didn't listen

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to the news in the car because
I didn't drive in that day. I

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just walked, So I was completely
oblivious. The store opened at ten o'clock,

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so i'd usually get there around nine. So I'm there. I have

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no idea what what was going on. And then I get a call from

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my mother's husband, Terry, and
he says to me, Hey, can

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you call your mother. I think
she just would would feel better if she

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heard from you, because she's freaking
out. She thinks it's he was calling

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me from his work. So you
know, I hear his voice and he

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says he's calling from his job,
and I'm like, oh, my first

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thought was something happens, something happened
to my mom. So he says,

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can you he said, I'm at
work, can you get call your mother

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at home? She's she's freaking out. She thinks it's the end of the

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world. So I think she'd feel
better hearing from you. And when he

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said that to me, again,
I'm oblivious. I have no idea what's

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going on. I was like,
she thinks it's the end of the world.

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So my first thought is, oh, my god, we're in a

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nuclear standoff with somebody. Maybe it
is the end of the world, you

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know, either the Russians or or
something. That was my first thought when

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I can understand where he would go
there when he said that, and I

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was like, well, well is
it And then he explained to me what

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was going on, and I was
like, oh, okay, you know,

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and then I said, all right, I'll call her. So I

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called her, and you know,
and then I grabbed We actually still sold

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radios then, so I grabbed a
radio and I plugged it in and listen

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to the news, and you know, there was nobody coming into the store

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that morning, but that's how I
found out. But yeah, it was

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like I got up and I went
to work that day just completely oblivious to

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what was going on. If you'd
like to get in with a call,

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six zo three two five six zero
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in the Facebook live chat. Mike from

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H, and I get to hang
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Radio with Paul ec. He says, Hello everyone. Isaac Banks, who

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I'm pretty sure, if memory serves, is from Greensboro, North Carolina.

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I think so. He says,
Hello, Matt and Jen, Good afternoon.

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Oh Jenny, I see you're in
there. He said. Shalom,

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peeps. Isaac Banks says, Matt
and Jen JP and ME says to you,

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we both love you from us.
J JP is Jeff Pegary and me

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ib Isaac Banks, well, thank
you very much, glad. He clarified

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that Melanie law Liberty from the Great
State of Vermont joins us in the chat.

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Hello, Isaac says, yesterday it
was rain and thunder outside last night

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in Greensboro, North Carolina. No, uh, let's see. Isaac asked

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earlier who the guest was, and
I told him and he said, okay,

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awesome, Matt, and he is
talent. Yes, if you're just

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joining us, uh Nola coda will
be our So do you say his name?

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Nola? Wait, no, Nolan, Nolan coda will be Uh.

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I must be thinking of New Orleans. You're stuck on a map, rocking

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down in New Orleans. Remember that
song from Jerry and the Scumbags. That

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one went away for some reason anyway? Uh? Yes, Nolan coda from

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Ian's Encoded and Pointless Culture. We'll
be here with us later. Isaac Bank

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says, I listened to Bruce springsteen
song Tunnel of Love. Speaking of Springsteen,

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oh yeah, yeah, I couldn't
get away from that song. I

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liked that song, but couldn't get
away from it. That was a huge

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hit. Scott Robinson says, the
wife and I went and saw Springsteen at

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Foxborough a couple of weeks back.
Wasn't a bad show. I don't know

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a lot of the songs, but
I had fun. Yeah, he's canceled

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the rest of us tour. Springsteen
has something some sort of a health issue.

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Miriam Banish says, good afternoon,
Good afternoon, Miriam, good afternoon.

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Darling. Melanie has issued a mal
is going to be a jerk warning

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here she comes. Melanie said,
I struggle with all the never forget posts

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when no one seems to be concerned
about the religious extremists in our government who

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are trying to insert their religion into
our laws. It's the same mentality that

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flew those planes and took down the
towers. Oh I'm not touching that,

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I don't, said Melanie. Oh
I get I get what you're saying,

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Melanie, and I take your point. I don't. I don't quite agree.

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I understand what you're saying, but
I I that's a whole other conversation

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and there's a lot of nuance that
we would have to uh So I'm not

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gonna I'm not gonna sign on to
that. But I totally believe in the

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never forgot posts. I mean amt
I like those. I like seeing them

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because I think it is important to
remember the people and remember their names,

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and even for that moment you think
of that person's name, in that moment,

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that person is remembered. You know, there's around and as far as

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the extremes of in government, I
am fighting left and right, woman,

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I'm certainly paying attention and fighting and
there's a lot of people out there that

408
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:08,799
are and there are a lot of
great ways to get involved. Isaac Bank

409
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,559
says, Bruce Springsteen had hits,
good hits. Yeah, Isaac is also

410
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:15,559
a music critic. I don't know
if you knew that. I did not.

411
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,079
Jay Fed joins us in the chat
room and says, good afternoon everyone,

412
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,319
and Jay Fed also says as the
Fonds, hey, Oh yes,

413
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,880
he says Isaacs, I see what
he did there, Celian Isaacs thunder Melanie

414
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,079
also said, I'm sorry, but
that like visiting your mom's grave only.

415
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,599
Oh, it's like visiting your mom's
grave only on our birthday. We have

416
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,839
to not suck on the other three
hundred and sixty four days of the year.

417
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:48,200
Yes, yes, of course.
John Hopwood joins us in the Facebook

418
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,480
live chat called Springsteen an old fart. Hey, that's the boss. Wow,

419
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,680
that's the boss. Where is Hoppy? I don't know. I haven't

420
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:07,359
seen him in a week. Where
are you? We miss you? Isaac

421
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:11,960
Banks, apparently responding to j Fed, said as Potsy, hey, hashtag

422
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:15,559
Jason Feederson, how are you doing, sir? Good impression of the Fonds?

423
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:21,640
Excellent, Jason as Potsy, Jason
Feederson, you're the man. I

424
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,880
don't remember Potsy ever saying you're the
man on happy Days and then Isaac Banks

425
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:32,319
says in parentheses normal voice hashtag,
Matt Jason Feederson is good doing impression of

426
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:36,839
the Funds. He should watch episodes
of Happy Days. Well he probably has,

427
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,119
Isaac. That's probably how he knows
how to do those impressions. We

428
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,079
watched them when they were new.
And uh, Mike from Queen City Cabinetry

429
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:49,359
says Isaac. I don't know if
you knew, but Matt does amazing impressions.

430
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,519
I do. I do those only
on retrospectrum radio with policy, but

431
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:57,680
I did watch AWE if you watching, I tell you if you missed it.

432
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:02,519
On Friday Night's show, Oh,
I did my impression of Sir Lawrence

433
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:08,200
Olivier at the DMV and it was
stunning. And I'll tell you. I'll

434
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:14,200
tell you what the secret is.
It's it's one thing like anyone can pretend

435
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,160
to be uh, Sir Lawrence Olivier
at the DMV, but I actually,

436
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:25,559
in that brief moment, I actually
become Sir Lawrence Olivier at the DMV.

437
00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:30,440
I actually become him. And that's
the secret to do in a great impression.

438
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,920
It wasn't he on TV and like
the thirties or something, or he

439
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,000
was a very famous actor the thirties, right forties later than that wasn't I'm

440
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:50,279
stuck in the wrong century. Let's
see. Oh my goodness, Melanie is

441
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:53,680
saying she will attempt to keep it
rained in. That's gonna go. No,

442
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:55,599
you don't have to. You don't
have to keep anything rained in in

443
00:32:55,599 --> 00:33:00,359
the chat room. We like unleashed. We we we I don't sensor of

444
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680
the chat room, Mike says,
A stunning isn't a strong enough word.

445
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:07,960
That's right. Wow, that's a
heck of a compliment, is there.

446
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,839
I can, I can. I
can do those impressions pretty well. We

447
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,200
have a call. Hi, welcome
to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's this?

448
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:23,400
Hello? Hello, Hello, Hello, I've got a new protective case or

449
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,279
my iPhone? It seems to be
did you cause in me trouble? Oh?

450
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,759
Did you cover the speaker with it? Yeah? You're supposed to leave

451
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,759
that part uncovered. I thought it
was supposed to be uncovered, right,

452
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:39,039
that's my point. Damn, what
am I gonna do? And we have

453
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:43,039
to like cut part of it out? I guess I don't know. I

454
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,960
don't know what's going on over there. It's it's here, It's just not

455
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,960
behaving, well, this is anarchy
pandemonium. Really, I've got an iPhone

456
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:58,519
se three. You know it's very
small. Oh and iPhone you didn't cost

457
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,799
much rainying. Hey, that's board
Olivier to you. Yeah, oh it's

458
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:09,360
Oh, it's not sir Lawrence Olivier. It's Laurida Laurence Olivier was elevated the

459
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,239
House of Lords in nineteen seventy.
Oh, I didn't realize that. I

460
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,480
never knew that. Me neither.
Well, that totally blows my impression.

461
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,920
I'm gonna have to retool it.
Yeah, like, because he's got a

462
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,239
title, Jenny, you don't even
know who he is here. He's the

463
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,639
dude that played like I don't know, I have a vision in my head

464
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:37,119
of like he was in the Arabian
movie right. He was nominated for an

465
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:43,320
Oscar ten times, won the Oscar
playing Hamlet in nineteen forty eight. Hamlet

466
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:49,039
won the Best Pitcher Oscar in nineteen
forty eight, nominated It's the best Director.

467
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,840
And he also had do you hear
that Honorary Oscars? I see what

468
00:34:52,920 --> 00:35:00,880
your name is? English stage actor? Uh, but he was so well

469
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,159
he walked away from movie start him. He was in the he starred in

470
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:12,519
a two movies in thirty nine and
forty and Wuthering Heights, and then he

471
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:17,239
was in Rebecca, which was Alfred
Hitchcock picture that won Best Picture. But

472
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:25,280
he went back to England and volunteered
to become a Navy air called pilot,

473
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,280
but he smashed two planes and so
Churchill asked him to make a movie.

474
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:34,719
So he made the first great Shakespearean
movie, which is Henry the Fifth,

475
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,960
which of course is about you know, the England rallying and going to war

476
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,039
with France. And he was the
most famous Shakespearean actor of his day.

477
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,599
But he also was a great contemporary
actor. But he's been gone for a

478
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,679
long time now. Miriam is asking
in the chat. Wasn't he in something

479
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,599
with Dustin Hoffman. Yeah, he
was in Marathon Man. He was Zell

480
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:07,239
the Nazi. He got an Best
Supporting Actor nomination for that. Then he

481
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:15,119
played this grotesque. He was very
bad in the movie The Boys from Brazil,

482
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:21,880
playing somebody based on Simon Wisenthal.
But you know it was fun because

483
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,440
Gregory Peck was playing a Joseph Manglay
and they got to fight each other at

484
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,199
the end. But you thought,
which one's gonna die first of a heart

485
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:35,079
attack. They're both so old.
Ah. Yes, well, Larry Olivia

486
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,880
got ten Oscar nominations, but he
made very few films to the end because

487
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:44,400
he got He was married to Vivian
Lead, but they got divorced in sixteen.

488
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,119
He married much younger women. They
had like four or five kids in

489
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,800
there, so eventually he had to
make some money to support the kids.

490
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,719
You know, to being some god
awful movies like Wild Geese too. But

491
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,360
are you you gotta bring home the
bacon? Right? That's right, that's

492
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,760
right. But I don't even think
you know who. Let's hear your Lawrence

493
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,000
Olivier impression. All right here,
let's let's do this. So so uh

494
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,519
John, uh pretend uh, pretend
you're an employee at the DMV and I've

495
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:24,599
and I've walked up to the counter, got your form. Yes, I'm

496
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:31,199
here to renew my driver's license.
I'm Lord Lawrence Olivier. No, let's

497
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,400
do it. It's Lawrence Lord Olivia. You see, he was Sir Lawrence

498
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Olivier, but he took the name
Lawrence Lord Olivier of Brighton. I don't

499
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:49,760
think Brighton is a seaside resort in
England, which to us really sucks.

500
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:52,159
But to the British is something like
you know, like Glass Vegas. I

501
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:57,519
can't got the last Vegas is really
Blackpool. I can't do any I can't

502
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,599
do it again, John, I
can't. I can't recreate the magic of

503
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:02,920
what I just did. I mean, regardless of how I said it.

504
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,920
You have to admit, for a
moment there, you thought I was possessed

505
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,599
by him or something, didn't you
until you blew it with the Laurence,

506
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,119
you know, the Lord Lawrence Olivia, you were a phony. Well you

507
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:19,559
know, I mean, come on, I mean, it's uh. You

508
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,039
have to admit though it was pretty
impressive. I mean, the accent and

509
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:27,480
everything. I had it down.
I thought you you're very promising. But

510
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:32,880
Gonzo in there too, and Elizabeth
Rock to give you some pointers. Ah,

511
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,079
oh, well, they do impressions
of you. I don't do it.

512
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,639
I don't do it, John Hopwood
impression. You should have been standing

513
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,360
and you needed to center yourself around
the groin and then create an arrow of

514
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,599
power up to the point between your
eyebrows, and then you would have nailed

515
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,960
it. Well, that's uh.
Some of these things are visual. It's

516
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:59,320
a radio show. It's Theater of
the Mind. It's right here in the

517
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,239
Laurence Olivia on actic. I'm just
giving me some chips from the Godhead himself.

518
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,760
I probably should read that. Hey, what do you guys think about

519
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,039
this Secret Service agent? He's eighty
eight years old, he's got a book

520
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:21,239
to peddle, and suddenly he remembers
that he found the magic bullet that allegedly

521
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,280
shot went through JFK's back, then
up through his throat, then down through

522
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,559
whatever, and then into John Conley's
back, then to John Conley's lung,

523
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,199
then to John Connley's arm, and
then through his leg. And isn't that

524
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:40,639
an amazing thing? At eighty eighty
remembers this mean while he has a book

525
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:45,440
to sell that is yeah, yeah, no, I have not. I

526
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,599
am aware of this, and I
am skeptical, and I know that another

527
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,079
Secret Service agent who is there is
already uh coming out and saying no,

528
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,519
he's that's that's not correct. So
he's already been debunked by another Secret Service

529
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,719
agent. Now you see, I
was talking to somebody that you know,

530
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:07,719
but I can't reveal their name because
they I swore that I wanted. I'm

531
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,320
not gonna give you any details.
But I actually said exactly what you said

532
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,920
to him, and he said,
that's not true. Clint Hill just said,

533
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,320
because Clint Hill is who you're talking
about, rather than this disguise says

534
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,960
he's the last witness. And I
thought was Clint Hill dead, But Clint

535
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:31,920
Hill's alive. Clint Hill was his
partner, and Clint Hill's famous in history

536
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:37,719
as the guy that in two seconds
jumped off the back of the Cadillac that

537
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,239
was in back of the limo,
and in two seconds he was on the

538
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:46,840
back of that Lincoln helping Jackie Kennedy
get back into the car as it sped

539
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:54,360
up, and he shielded the body
because although they have the fiction that JFK

540
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:59,760
died at the hospital, that's genuinely
accepted that he was dead before he got

541
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,039
there. But as a Catholic,
you have to get at that time,

542
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:06,199
you let's get extreme unction. You
had to still be alive, which is

543
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:09,840
something I didn't know until recently.
I didn't I didn't know you had to

544
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,559
be alive to be forgiven all your
sins. So I guess if you get

545
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:20,400
your head blown off in Dallas,
you can't get forgiven right. Let's but

546
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:24,760
you know they manufactured a little lie
to get JFK into Heaven or at least

547
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,639
Limbo, except that doesn't exist anymore, right, it doesn't. Well,

548
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:35,199
that's disappointing. You're a Catholic.
You should know about limbo. Why I

549
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,760
believe it's called purgatory is what you're
referring to, right, unless there's another

550
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,280
place I'm not aware of. What
did they teach you in Catholic school.

551
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,440
I was a Protestant, but my
Catholic mother told me about limbo. That's

552
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,920
where all the dead babies go.
What all right, this is getting into

553
00:41:52,880 --> 00:42:00,199
a dark dark zone. All right, what are you talking about that limbo?

554
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,159
Limbo is in heaven or not before
heaven. That's what my mother told

555
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,440
me. I was four years old
or something. And at the same time,

556
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:13,880
Santa Clause right, I was taught
that you go to purgatory to burn

557
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,519
off your sins and then you go
to heaven or you just go to hell.

558
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,119
So, uh, it's either or
hell. So have sins except for

559
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,960
the original sin, and Jesus already
died for that, So they just go

560
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,559
to heaven, is what you're saying. No, they go to limbo.

561
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,599
It is an intermediate state. This
is Wikipedia. Do you remember Catholics don't

562
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:39,639
go to heaven until after everybody gets
resurrected. It's an intermediate state. Yeah,

563
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:44,519
I think you've got that right,
Jenny, in which the recently deceased

564
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:49,599
experienced various phenomenon before being reborn in
another state, including heaven or health.

565
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,079
I don't think this is the official
Holy Mother Church, you know. You

566
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,840
know, Wikipedia can give you the
year. But getting back to JFK,

567
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,719
So you think it's a bunch of
larkey too, huh, yes, I

568
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,760
do. I Well, I think
you nailed it. You said he's got

569
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,400
a book to sell. Well,
Clint Hill, you know, was on

570
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,480
top of JFK and looking into all
that gore, you know, because he

571
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:19,480
writes about it himself. Clint Hill
believes in the single bullets theory. But

572
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,239
if this was actually true, that
the bullet, you know, the Christine

573
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:30,639
bullet, was found in a tuft
of the leather and Lincoln Continental and back

574
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:37,920
of JFK, it was completely great
history, right. But the guy at

575
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,440
the time he's writing his reports,
he says that he went he found the

576
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:49,280
bullet and then instead of giving it
to his supervisor, he actually went into

577
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,360
the emergent, you know, forget
what they call it, but it's an

578
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,559
emergency room, but you know it's
a rather small room where they were operating

579
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:02,760
on JFK. And then Johnny was
in another one and he says he walked

580
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,920
in and put the bullet on the
blanket of JFK rather than telling anybody about

581
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,719
that. Yeah. Yeah, see
here's that doesn't make any sense to me.

582
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,519
That's that's why. That's a big
reason why I'm so skeptical. It's

583
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:20,440
just bizarre. He just does that
and doesn't say anything, right, go

584
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:22,960
ahead, Sorry, Oh no,
no, that was my thought. I

585
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,000
was just saying, he just does
that and doesn't say anything to anybody about

586
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:30,599
it. It doesn't make any sense
to me. That's what I said too.

587
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,119
Well this other person. Yeah,
but he said he was traumatized,

588
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:38,400
and you know the pt I guess
when we can get PTSD right then and

589
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,880
there. But he's traumatized. It's
chaotic. But see what Clint Hill says

590
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,840
in the New York Times. Clint
Hill eighty nine a year older than this

591
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,199
guy. And Clint Hill managed to
within two seconds bound off a car and

592
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:58,360
save Jackie Kennedy's and getting run over. You know, and he's only a

593
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,840
year older than this guy, because
oh he was young, and while he'd

594
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,519
been a Secret Service agent for six
years. I mean, if you're that

595
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:10,199
highly trained, these guys are trained
to put themselves in front of a bullet,

596
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:14,880
which means that's got to be dedicated
to training, like your father went

597
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,719
through as a seal or something,
you know what I mean, you have

598
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,360
to be highly trained. I mean
I would do that. Besides, I'm

599
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,239
so sure it wouldn't work right over
your head. But Clint Hill was always

600
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,159
bad by the fact he didn't make
it within another second and put his body

601
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,280
in front of the third bullet,
which is impossible, you know, because

602
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:44,679
but so he allegedly did this,
but in his notes, and they only

603
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,599
gave the notes in two weeks later. Yeah, I guess he says he

604
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:54,440
doesn't have any mention of going into
the actual emergency room or the bullet,

605
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:59,639
you know. Yeah. And yet
the one thing, and that the guy's

606
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:04,039
book. It's number one on Amazon
dot com. His book, and it's

607
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,079
published by a rather minor publisher.
And I know the remnor publisher because they

608
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,639
held a store a short story by
me for a year before rejecting it.

609
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:15,000
They were going to publish it but
they didn't. That's how minor this publisher

610
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:21,440
is. So the Chicago Press or
whatever and Chicago Review Press. But so

611
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,719
this is a thing if you can't
refute it, right, Yeah, because

612
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,360
he's saying it. And even under
the law, a witness can come forward

613
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:37,960
in a murder. Years later we
see in like the Central Central Park jogger

614
00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:43,159
case, things like that. Yeah, but you can't refute it. But

615
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:46,599
it's the one piece of evidence that
blows everything out of the water. Right

616
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,320
by the way, we're almost at
the top of the r John, But

617
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,599
I do want to while we're on
the subject, I do want to quickly

618
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:58,679
ask you, why why do you
think that we still so much of that

619
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,840
hasn't been released? Trump when he
was president, he did promise, I

620
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,320
think that they were going to release
all the JFK stuff, and then he

621
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:09,679
changed his mind. Obviously somebody talked
him out of it. But I think

622
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,800
it was supposed to I think there
was even something legally that was done that

623
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,920
it was supposed to happen by now, but it's still all kept secret from

624
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,880
us. Well, you know,
Vanity Fair has an article written by a

625
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,719
Cleveland lawyer that The New York Times
identifies as the guy that helped the Secret

626
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:35,320
Service agent process his memories quote unquote
processes memories. Well, I don't want

627
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,320
to reveal anything ahead of time,
but me and Big Steve had been working

628
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:44,960
with this book was a certain let's
just say they're from somewhere near Alpha Centuri.

629
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:51,920
We've got quite the story about the
UFO JFK connection. But you know,

630
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:57,000
it's nine to eleven. There's a
horror that happened in the United States,

631
00:47:57,039 --> 00:48:00,960
and there's a horror that happened in
seventy through three Chili, when the

632
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:05,880
CIA, on the direction of Henry
Kissinger and Richard Nixon, staged the coup

633
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:12,119
data against the elected government, which
led to a dictatorship being established and the

634
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,679
President of Chili committing suicide. So
it's a Psalm Biday. But someday I

635
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,719
will fill you into the real story. Really, okay, all right?

636
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,639
Oh yeah, it makes the Satanic
portal of the White Husse look like child's

637
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,519
play. That really well, if
you can make a satanic portal look like

638
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:31,920
child's play, it must be quite
a story. By the way, is

639
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:37,079
it Chili or Chile? Chile?
It's every once in a while, I

640
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,800
I mean, I like to say
chili because I like to eat chili,

641
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:45,400
but I do want to respect to
the country. One of the guys who

642
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,679
are helping process memories that can call
him the guy. His name is bill

643
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:53,800
A bill A, Yeah, b
I l e. But it has some

644
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:59,400
type of weird act shunting gears except
the toun next hunting gear. That's a

645
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,760
little injury for the French, the
francophone. So a lot of people probably

646
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:07,000
call him Billy, but it's bill
A, right, it's a It's Chile

647
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:10,800
come home. I'm getting the idea. Maybe we can read, you know,

648
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,719
ten year cycle Dallas and then Santiago
Chili. But I guess we'll have

649
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,960
to find something to happen in eighty
three. All right, okay, well

650
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,280
fair enough, Hey care, all
right, John, appreciate the call.

651
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,159
Bye bye, And I'm going to
send you a picture of Christ and Limbo

652
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,800
by Hieronymous Bosh. Please please do. I would love to see it.

653
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,559
Please do. Yeah. I guess
that's when Jesus went down there and harrowed

654
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:45,039
Limbo. Whatever harrowing means. I
know Christ did it. I just don't

655
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:47,960
know what it means. Don't remember
Sister Margharita talking about any of that but

656
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,760
okay, I'll take I'll take you
at your word. John. Everything I

657
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,119
know about the Bible I saw in
a movie. Okay, bye, all

658
00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:00,239
right, by bye, I believe
this. All right, Well that was

659
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,960
our friend, John Hopwood. Here's
what we're gonna do. We're approaching the

660
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,800
top of the art. We're gonna
get to a break. We've got a

661
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,960
great guest coming on and in fact, I'm gonna play one of his songs

662
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,599
and then we'll get him in here. This is uh, this is my

663
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:15,840
favorite of his. This is reconnection
from Eons and Coded and the man himself,

664
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,719
Nolan Coda, is going to join
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Welcome back everybody. We have entered
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700
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701
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702
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703
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,360
well at the news desk, present
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704
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,559
and today is of course Monday,
September eleven, twenty twenty three, and

705
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,599
we have with us joining us on
the couch. Nolan Coda is here.

706
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:35,920
Am I saying your last name correctly
as a Coda? That's it? Yep?

707
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:39,920
Yes from Eons and Coded and uh
and the other band Pointless Culture Culture.

708
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,079
Yes, Yes, but wonderful to
have you here. Thank you.

709
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,760
I was saying to you off air
that I'd said to Jenny recently. You

710
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,639
know, I've been playing this guy's
music for like two years on the show.

711
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:55,440
We should probably have him one.
Yeah, thanks for having me and

712
01:01:55,639 --> 01:02:00,760
uh yeah, I always get I
always get a lot of positive feedback on

713
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,639
that song, Reconnection. That's so
cool. It's it's it's kind of epic

714
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,880
and Uh. Yeah, it's just
great. It's one of those songs you

715
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,440
get stuck in my head, especially
that ending, you know, it's a

716
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:15,599
very very dramatic end with a that's
quite heavy. Yeah, yeah, that

717
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,599
was my goal. Anyway, I
like it a lot, and you're getting

718
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:23,159
some love in the chat room.
Two. Uh Marissa coda, who I

719
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:25,519
think you said as your sisters?
My sister. Hello, yep, she

720
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:30,800
says, yay, Nolan, very
nice. Riley King says, Hi,

721
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,960
Nolan, Hey really. Oh let's
see. I think I saw somebody else

722
01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:38,519
pop in here too. Carol Zawar
which joins us in the chat room.

723
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:43,679
Hello, Carol, and hello to
anybody I miss in there. And if

724
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:45,159
you'd like to join us, the
studio line is open if you have any

725
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,320
questions for Nolan or feedback or anything
at all. Six zo three two five

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727
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,480
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729
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Connerton dot com. And of course
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730
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731
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:09,000
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732
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:13,320
ozho six zero seven. Oh.
Jenny shared the link tree in there for

733
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:17,199
in the chat room two for ions
encoded. Yeah. Tell, well let

734
01:03:17,239 --> 01:03:21,239
me ask you this first off,
So where did where did you come up

735
01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:23,159
with the name? What does the
name mean? So it used to be

736
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:29,119
An's apart and uh, it was
kind of just like some kind of wordplay.

737
01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:32,719
I was just trying to go for
just what sounded cool, and over

738
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,480
time I was like, well,
I kind of want to incorporate my name,

739
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,039
so end coda. So I was
like, all right, let's kind

740
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:44,039
of go off that end coded was
born. So it was kind of like

741
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:46,440
a little subtle play there, and
I think it sounded a little more not

742
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:52,159
original, but more to my liking, I guess. But yeah, it

743
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,239
was just kind of like me just
messing around with some words and seeing where

744
01:03:55,239 --> 01:04:00,199
they seeing where they landed. Yeah, but it kind of duck and people

745
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,559
seem to like it and behold,
ayonns was born. Yeah, and uh

746
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,679
and that it's all you right,
you play everything? Wow? Wow?

747
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,599
How do you I mean, it's
it's unique. How do you describe it?

748
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:16,840
To people who haven't heard it,
because it's not like anything. I

749
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:21,079
mean, I can hear influences,
but it's especially I think the vocals are

750
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:25,239
part of what gives it it's uniqueness. Your approach with the vocals is different.

751
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,719
I can't think of anybody who quite
doesn't like that. But how do

752
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,960
you describe it to people who haven't
heard it yet? It can be kind

753
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,679
of broad. So I have a
lot of influence from like Pink Floyd Rush

754
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:41,239
and then to modern bands like Tool. You know, all the progressive rock

755
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,400
slash metal bands have been kind of
my go to for you know, how

756
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,320
I go about writing my stuff.
Yeah, so I kind of just not

757
01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:53,880
like draw ideas from them, but
kind of like take inspiration from what they

758
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:56,920
from what they've done, and I
just kind of make it my own,

759
01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,360
you know, just kind of like
putting my own twist on some things.

760
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,480
And a lot of it boils down
to experimentation. So you know, if

761
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,679
you're into like progressive rock and you
like a lot of synthesizer stuff and like

762
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:12,719
very spacey, atmospheric type soundscapes and
all that, you know this this is

763
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,280
the type of stuff you'd be into, So you know, it's very niche

764
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,360
I feel, but it's fun.
It's a fun genre, and you know,

765
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,079
I try to keep it interesting in
terms of like making one song kind

766
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,480
of heavier, but maybe one song
a little more experimental and you know,

767
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,719
more keyboard heavy. So just you
know, not to have an identity crisis,

768
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,400
but like, you know, keep
it interesting. Yeah, as much

769
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,519
as I as much as I possibly
can. So yeah, So yeah,

770
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:43,039
I would say like progressive rock mixed
with some spacey sounds is probably the best

771
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,519
way to describe it. Yeah.
Yeah. Now, so you play everything

772
01:05:46,599 --> 01:05:49,599
you do all the vocals, do
you are those real drums? You also

773
01:05:49,639 --> 01:05:54,679
play drums or program I do play
drums, but being in an apartment,

774
01:05:54,760 --> 01:06:00,480
that's a little tough. So I
programmed them myself. So I use plugins,

775
01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:03,239
which are like software drums. Yeah, and I take, you know,

776
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,239
not like well, they're real samples
of drums, but not my own.

777
01:06:06,519 --> 01:06:10,880
Yeah, but they're included in the
software. So I take, you

778
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,360
know, what sound I want from
each drum, you know, and symbol

779
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,840
and whatnot, and then I mapped
them on like a meaty chart. And

780
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,280
you can also play it on a
keyboard because it connects by MIDI through that

781
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,639
too. Yeah, but sometimes I'm
not always on time, so certain sections

782
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:27,960
I'll do just keyboard and sink them, and then other times I'll map out

783
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,079
each individual drum, which takes a
lot of time, but it can be

784
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:33,639
it can open up my creative,
you know, doors a little bit more

785
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:39,719
because I can get really fast or
really complex and it would sound good still,

786
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,440
but like you know, gotta remember
not to make it too like unrealistic,

787
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,840
right, I would say, Yeah, drums is like probably the one

788
01:06:46,039 --> 01:06:50,599
time consuming, one of the time
consuming instruments that I have to do with

789
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,559
when it comes to my music,
just because of it. It's it's programmed

790
01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:59,599
kind of very incrementally. Aaron Billado, who I don't know if you know,

791
01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:02,239
Aaron, very very talented musician,
he says in the chatroom. I

792
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,599
checked it out before the show.
Outstanding new fan here. Thank you very

793
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:10,320
much. Yeah, that's awesome.
Do you know Aaron. I don't,

794
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,280
but I'm gonna check him out.
Yeah, yeah, he does. It

795
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,360
does very sort of experimental stuff too. That's really cool. Yeah, yeah,

796
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,320
absolutely, thank you. With with
the drum, So when you're mapping

797
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:23,039
out the drums, when you're doing
all that, do you do you intentionally

798
01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:27,480
try to put in something that makes
it seem that makes it sound like it's

799
01:07:27,519 --> 01:07:31,800
not programmed. Yeah. So the
flexibility of I'll just say it, it's

800
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,199
easy drummer two by tune track.
Okay, that's what I've been using for

801
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:41,119
the last few years mapping out drums, and they allow you to kind of

802
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:43,920
humanize each drum. Yeah, I've
heard of this. Yeah. They have

803
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:45,920
like, you know, certain settings. You can set velocity, which is

804
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,119
kind of like how hard or how
soft a drum sounds, So to make

805
01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:54,920
it realistic, that's a very variable
like setting that I use, and I

806
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,199
try to use it sparingly enough where
it sounds like someone's actually drumming it.

807
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,880
Yeah. So that'll loan is also
time consuming because I don't want it to

808
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,440
sound like, you know, super
like processed right right, right. But

809
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,079
you know, I'm not gonna lie
and say that they're real drums either.

810
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,119
Yeah, but you know, you
want it to kind of sound authentic,

811
01:08:13,239 --> 01:08:15,679
and that's what I'm trying to go
for, as being as authentic as I

812
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,359
can with what tools they have at
my disposal. Yeah, that makes sense.

813
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,399
Yeah, it's amazing what you can
do now with the technology. I

814
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:30,680
had another gentleman who He's got a
band called Downhill Rollers, but it's and

815
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,279
it's more just a straightforward rock thing, really really good. But he but

816
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:36,800
it's all him. He does it
all himself, and he programs and drums

817
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:42,479
and I remember saying to him,
like those sound completely real, you know,

818
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,680
like like I would never have guessed. So it's really impressive what you

819
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,039
can do now. They've they've improved
their like interface and just overall quality over

820
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:54,399
the years. They've I mean,
I'm not out all that well versed in

821
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,600
like the progression of all that,
but like you can tell that there's so

822
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,520
much love put into these programs.
Yeah, where like you could pretty much

823
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,880
replace your drummer if you wanted to
right and go that route. So it's

824
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,359
really cool seeing how much you can
do these days from just you know,

825
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,319
a computer. Oh yeah, and
some and some like d I instruments.

826
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,560
Yeah, you know, yeah,
what what's your what's your first instrument?

827
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,720
Obviously you play multiple instruments. What
did you start out on? Actually I

828
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:26,359
started on piano, but I uh, you know that that was kind of

829
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:30,039
like my gateway into music because you
know, my grandparents had a really old

830
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,600
cassio keyboard from like the late eighties
that I would kind of mess around on

831
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,760
and then that's kind of like what
got me into guitar later on, is

832
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,920
you know, and that's like my
main instrument now aside from bass. Yeah.

833
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:45,720
So, like, but keyboard has
been the best way for me to

834
01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:49,439
learn everything about music that I know
today, or at least have me start

835
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,520
out on music, and it's very
versatile and it was a lot of fun

836
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,000
to learn on and then just kind
of you know, went from there to

837
01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:00,479
drums, keyboard, like synthesizers,
ye boards, and you know, guitar

838
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,520
and all that and kind of expanded
from there. I've heard a lot of

839
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:12,920
music teachers say that that everyone should
at least learn some basic keyboard skills and

840
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,960
that will help you and everything.
Not advice. I ever thought. I'm

841
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,119
a bass player and I can play
a little bit of guitar. I never

842
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:23,000
I never learned I've never learned anything
on keyboard and I probably never will.

843
01:10:23,079 --> 01:10:27,720
But but but I have heard a
lot of music teachers say that that's really

844
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,159
the best foundation you could ask for, is if you start out on keyboard,

845
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:32,680
or if you already play something else, if you go back and just

846
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,600
try to learn you know, just
basic stuff scales and whatnot, and it'll

847
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,399
actually really help you exactly, especially
the C major scale. That's how it's

848
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,039
pretty much mapped around and you just
kind of experiment from there or learned.

849
01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:47,279
You can kind of use that as
your foundation and then kind of like learning

850
01:10:47,319 --> 01:10:50,319
other scales from that SAM major scale
and like learning all the other stuff from

851
01:10:50,359 --> 01:10:54,680
there. So yeah, it's it's
a great starting point. I remember those

852
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,119
old casios. Was it a was
it a little one or was it because

853
01:10:58,119 --> 01:11:00,600
I shrunk on me? Because yeah, starting young, right, So like

854
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,800
I swear it was like, you
know, like a full sized keyboard.

855
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,920
Then the one day I went over
to play it, like I don't know,

856
01:11:06,079 --> 01:11:09,720
maybe four years old or something like
that, I swear it shrunk,

857
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,439
yeah, because I don't know,
or five years old or something like that.

858
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,960
But yeah, it's it's about like
it's a it's a what is it

859
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:20,159
a forty two key or something like
that keyboard. It's it's it's fairly small

860
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:25,199
keys. Yeah, something you'd probably
find on like a MIDI controller, right,

861
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,720
you know or something like that.
So like it was comfortable, yes,

862
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:30,920
you know, even when I was
getting older and you know, my

863
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,399
hands were getting a little bit bigger
and all that, it was still fun

864
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:38,680
to play. And I still have
one, right, you know, not

865
01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:42,119
the same condition as it was back
then, but it's in my apartment right

866
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:45,800
now, sitting in the corner.
So yeah, still there the OG.

867
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,840
I think I have one in a
in a storage in it there, because

868
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,840
even though I never really learned to
play it, I did have one,

869
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:59,560
and I think it it's it's but
it's a little one if I'm remembering it

870
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,520
correct, and I think it I
think it took like I think it took

871
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,800
D batteries. Yep, that's what
mine took, really, yes of them

872
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,159
to be exactly. Yeah, yeah, that's a power sucker. Exactly.

873
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,079
Has your process changed over the years
with with ions and coded a little bit?

874
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:18,039
You know, I try to do
all the production myself, so it

875
01:12:18,199 --> 01:12:20,640
was kind of like me learning how
to do it all my own, which

876
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:25,800
was very tedious to say the least. But you know, if you listen

877
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,039
to my very first like demo track, Exordium, like that was just kind

878
01:12:29,079 --> 01:12:31,960
of me throwing some tracks together see
how things worked. Yeah, and then

879
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:36,000
kind of like showcasing the sound I
was going for in a way. So

880
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:41,119
I kind of like keeping that synthy
stuff and then getting heavier. So you

881
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:44,479
know, I think overall, like
my process has kind of stayed the same

882
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,720
in terms of how I compose,
but when it comes to the production of

883
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:53,760
it, I've gotten a lot more
what it's the word critical of it because

884
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,640
you know my ears. You know, when you do like music on your

885
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,640
own, it takes a lot out
of you, especially you know in your

886
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,479
ears. Oh yeah, the ear
fatigue is I think what they call it,

887
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,880
and uh it's it's a lot.
But you know, I try to

888
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:10,680
keep it streamlined, and the easier
it gets easier the more I do it,

889
01:13:11,239 --> 01:13:14,000
because like I kind of find what
works and what doesn't work, and

890
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:16,520
that's the fun of the experimentation that
I that I get to, you know,

891
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,520
go through. And uh yeah,
I think I've improved just in terms

892
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,560
of production, but like, you
know, how I go about writing and

893
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,279
putting it all together is kind of
stayed the same. Is is a lot

894
01:13:29,399 --> 01:13:33,479
of because you mentioned there's a lot
of experimentation. Do do you have some

895
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,119
songs where you've kind of where you
kind of write it all out and then

896
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:42,399
you go to record it or do
you ever or is it mostly just kind

897
01:13:42,399 --> 01:13:45,359
of experimenting as you go. Uh
So, yeah, that's a good question.

898
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:50,000
So a few songs I have like
actually written out completely. One of

899
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:55,279
them actually, the whole EP were
reconnections on the Cosmic Archives. That whole

900
01:13:55,319 --> 01:14:00,039
EP was actually tabbed out on a
software called guitar PROH and I kind of

901
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:03,840
put all the structure together on that. I programmed the drums through that,

902
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,840
like but through like sheet music,
so it was more tedious, Yeah,

903
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:12,560
but it helped me like kind of
established the basis of what I wanted to

904
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,000
go for and I was able to
change it there without having to like worry

905
01:14:15,039 --> 01:14:16,960
about recording anything. And I didn't
know about like scratch at the time,

906
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:20,239
where you can like record stuff like
kind of on like a piece of paper

907
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:25,880
in your computer type of thing.
And you know, just that's how I

908
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,119
kind of did all that because like
when it comes to recording, you always

909
01:14:29,119 --> 01:14:30,960
picture it kind of being like you
gotta do this in one take. It's

910
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,600
not the case for me, like
I've been able to like do it all

911
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,720
kind of in sections. You can
do it comfortably and I can adjust things

912
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:44,000
if I need to. But the
more experimental songs, like on my first

913
01:14:44,039 --> 01:14:48,199
album, inspect Element, which was
Oh my God, it's almost two years

914
01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:54,079
old now, that's just crazy.
So Theoretical and Beyond the Mirror are two

915
01:14:54,079 --> 01:14:57,119
of the instrumental songs on that that
I kind of just you know, messed

916
01:14:57,159 --> 01:15:00,680
around with to just come up with
like a way to brea into the next

917
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:05,079
songs yeah afterwards, which were also
mapped out you know, in software and

918
01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:09,840
written out. Yeah, just trying. It's more of those just like tiny

919
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,239
musical ideas that I kind of like
what sounds I'm kind of like what sounds

920
01:15:13,279 --> 01:15:16,880
good and will this work? Will
not work? And that's super fun for

921
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:21,479
me. Yeah, and they turn
out really fun, Like it's really really

922
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,079
fun to listen to. Do you
ever do you ever have an idea that

923
01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:29,439
you end up you end up throwing
away that you you maybe you were excited

924
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:30,359
about, but then you go to
do it, you go to record it,

925
01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:33,319
and you're like, ah, this
isn't working. Oh hundreds really yeah,

926
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:36,439
Yeah, I'm like the guy throwing
out those little crumples of paper in

927
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:41,760
the trash. Been all the time. But you know the cool thing about

928
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,119
technology is that you can erase things
and rework them without having to you know,

929
01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:49,319
worry about throwing stuff away for real, right, so if I don't

930
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,960
end up liking an idea, I
can just kind of readjust and like fix

931
01:15:54,079 --> 01:15:57,560
it and or add stuff to it, what have you, and then it

932
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,560
kind of I kind of like to
make things work, yeah, because you

933
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,800
know, I like to craft my
ideas but not have them go to waste.

934
01:16:03,119 --> 01:16:08,800
So there are some ideas in each
of my songs that are probably actually

935
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:14,560
not probably they are borrowed from previous
ideas, so hidden aways. Verse Riff

936
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,520
is actually a song that I wrote
back in like twenty twelve that I didn't

937
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,359
really have any way to record,
so I was like, this, first,

938
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:26,439
kind of cool, let's put that
in. So but there's still a

939
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,039
fair share of like different ideas that
just would not work for the songs I

940
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:33,880
already have out or probably would not
fit my sound at all. So but

941
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:38,600
that's the life of being a composer. I guess you have those ideas that

942
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,119
go to waste, and you have
those ideas that stick and you want to

943
01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:45,079
reuse. Jay fad in the chat
room and he yes everybody this question.

944
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,760
He says, uh, have you
ever considered increasing the length of your beard?

945
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,960
I want to. Yeah, yeah, I'd like to. I'd try

946
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,680
to keep it somewhat neat, but
you know it, I don't have the

947
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,840
best luck with my beard sometimes,
so really it gets a little scraggly,

948
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,039
so I got a tame it sometimes, which reminds me I got to do

949
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:11,119
that fairly soon. But yes,
I would like to grow it a little

950
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:14,520
more, say with my hair.
That's my next project. Really. Yeah.

951
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,319
Now, so have you ever I'm
assuming not, But have you ever

952
01:17:19,399 --> 01:17:24,439
played any of this live in front
of people or No? No, I

953
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:28,000
maybe one day I will, but
you know, because it's all solo stuff,

954
01:17:28,079 --> 01:17:29,880
a lot of it, you know, I'd have to like have a

955
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,880
band for hire and and have the
time to assemble all that and actually practice

956
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:40,159
them again. Yeah, but no, I've I've you know, thought about

957
01:17:40,279 --> 01:17:44,600
potentially doing something like that sometime in
the future, if you know, it

958
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,760
got to that point. But you
know, I think it'd be difficult to

959
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:53,039
assemble right now because there's so many
moving parts and there's you probably need about

960
01:17:53,039 --> 01:17:58,439
six keyboard it's probably I love the
layer things. Yeah, but it's on

961
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,119
the table just I don't know,
and it's very up in the air.

962
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,479
I mean, the other option would
be to you know, just just play

963
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:10,319
in front of backing tracks and yeah
that that's also a possibility too. That's

964
01:18:10,319 --> 01:18:14,079
something I've kind of toyed with here
and there. Yeah, it's just a

965
01:18:14,119 --> 01:18:16,239
matter of kind of getting it all
together. Yeah, I'm not opposed to

966
01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:18,960
it. Yeah, it'd be fun. But yeah, either way, it

967
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,760
would be a lot of work,
no doubt. Yeah. Uh. Frasier

968
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:28,279
Ramsey in the chat room says hey
from Edinburgh, Scotland. Well, hello,

969
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,680
hello, very nice. Well let's
do this. Let's let's play another

970
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:38,439
track I'd like to uh, well, actually I'll let you pick though,

971
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,119
what what what would you uh,
what would you like us to play?

972
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,560
Uh? I don't know. If
my newest one Fragmented lease back on Saint

973
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,840
Patty's Day? Okay, cool,
Yeah, that's a fun This is the

974
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,479
newest one. Very good. All
right, let's let's give this a listen

975
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,079
and then well we'll come back and
chat some more. If you're just joining

976
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:59,399
us. We have Nolan Coda here
and we're are we are featuring and talking

977
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:04,520
about his music from Eons and Codd. This is his solo project and check

978
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:45,159
this out. This is the newest
one. This is Fragmented rather around a

979
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:56,439
kid around the fire. That's the
body you burn the thread seign up.

980
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:01,399
Do you love the things? Sign
up at the time, what spirit is

981
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:21,439
shaking? I feel like the only
one to get your less and less of

982
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:32,000
red wracking the code ask my confidence
and starts to feel rac She think like

983
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:39,880
go we fastor in fastor then they
beat up my right man to catch my

984
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:55,520
rootlgad for somewhere else. We can't
ask me as you can't that deep in

985
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:10,039
the water awaiting the yard of the
seear just be a Wednesday away in bed

986
01:21:11,079 --> 01:21:18,720
a scared, we fully strong chiel
my mile to well and you just stand

987
01:21:19,800 --> 01:22:04,319
archa me end up the pieces all
over and cover again. M Sometimes I

988
01:22:04,399 --> 01:22:11,760
feel like a bullet the bro like
chest. Get that that there makes it

989
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:23,000
harder than work the rest. I
get some time trying to feel the sharks

990
01:22:23,039 --> 01:23:23,840
with my reason, I stay speaking
and shippens rounding her around again around the

991
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:30,439
floorest has the body you had a
friend? She hid fights on the frankness

992
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:50,000
of memories like what do su skates
like crystallize instantly sho somewhere else can't actually

993
01:23:50,039 --> 01:24:10,479
say and burst into the water.
I see just be says scared with the

994
01:24:11,119 --> 01:24:20,960
star chall wells a well and you
my check wi the pieces all over and

995
01:24:21,159 --> 01:25:27,359
over again. I love it.
That is fragmented from eons and coded,

996
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,039
and we have the man behind eons
and coded here on the couch with us

997
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:34,960
in studio. Nolan Coda is here. That's that's so good. We've got

998
01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:40,239
uh, let's see. Mike from
Queen City Cabinetry in the chat room says

999
01:25:40,319 --> 01:25:44,079
really good. Uh. Aaron Bilido
says, wow, this is a great

1000
01:25:44,119 --> 01:25:48,119
song too. Jay Fed says I'm
digging this. Jenny says loving this and

1001
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:53,399
uh, Dna Coda a relation there, mother, that's your mother. Yep,

1002
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,720
very nice, yep, she says. Love fragmented top track choice for

1003
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,199
me and Isaac Banks also said a
great song. Yeah, that is really

1004
01:26:01,279 --> 01:26:03,640
good. And you know, we
were kind of talking off air while I

1005
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,520
was playing kind of a little bit
of an eighties vibe there with the keyboard

1006
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:11,680
riff, which is really catchy.
Yeah, I wanted to like replicate kind

1007
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,920
of a d X seven types sound
like a Yamaha electric piano, Yeah,

1008
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:17,279
and kind of like put some modern
twist on that, add some reverb to

1009
01:26:17,359 --> 01:26:20,079
it and call it a day.
Yeah. Yeah, give a little different

1010
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:25,920
spin on that. Yeah. Melanie
also has a non musical question because she's

1011
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:31,000
watching online. What evil beings does
Beard Man have on his shirt? Oh,

1012
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:35,680
it's it's the scream. Uh,
yes, yes, I got it.

1013
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,239
A hot topic, I think.
Oh yeah, I'm getting ready for

1014
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:42,920
spooky season. Yes, oh so
is Melanie. Well I think for Melanie

1015
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,119
it's already here. So some people
just you know, Halloween is their giant

1016
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:54,039
giant. Yes, yes, aready
arrived for her? Yeah? Some people

1017
01:26:54,119 --> 01:27:02,920
start uh Halloween really early. If
you have a question or a feedback or

1018
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:08,560
anything at all for Nolan Coda from
Ian's Encoded and from Pointless Culture, he

1019
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,560
is in studio with a six zero
three two five zero six zero seven is

1020
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,039
a studio line six zho three two
five zero six zero seven. You can

1021
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:17,479
also text me at six one seven
nine one seven four four seven six.

1022
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,880
I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt

1023
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:26,840
Connerton dot com, and of course
you can interact Endopine in the Facebook live

1024
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,760
chat. But we'd love it if
you call us at six zo three two

1025
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,800
five oz six O seven j Fed
says the skeleton is twelve feet tall.

1026
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:38,119
Oh boy, that's a that's a
lot of skeleton in the front yard.

1027
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:42,880
There I think it's probably making the
other one jealous. Yes, you know

1028
01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:45,439
if he used to she used to
cut the little one everywhere. Now we

1029
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,239
don't hear anything about that, right, right, what was his name?

1030
01:27:47,359 --> 01:27:51,479
Russell? I don't remember. I
don't remember, uh, Nolan not two.

1031
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,800
We were talking off here about your
other band, Pointless Culture, and

1032
01:27:56,399 --> 01:27:58,880
one of the guys in the band
is also in radio. You were saying,

1033
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:01,840
yeah, yeah, Harrison Himan is
our drummer and he's a very talented

1034
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,840
individual. I want to give him
a quick shout out. He's an awesome

1035
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,520
dude. Helps us a lot with
our booking and yeah, uh you know,

1036
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,159
getting stuff out there, kind of
managing our social media stuff as well.

1037
01:28:13,239 --> 01:28:15,279
He does a lot for the band, so I want to give him

1038
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:18,079
a little bit of love. He's
on w J y y up and Conquered

1039
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:21,079
right, Yeah, I want to
fight five J y y yep yep station.

1040
01:28:21,159 --> 01:28:24,840
I know I used to live in
Conquered so I know that really well,

1041
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,079
yeah, because he been there a
long time or yeah, we actually

1042
01:28:27,119 --> 01:28:30,800
used to live together up until this
last month. Yeah, we're very close,

1043
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,840
very close friends. Oh cool.
So it's awesome that we get to

1044
01:28:33,039 --> 01:28:35,399
do everything. We get to do
together, you know, with the band

1045
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:40,439
and all that. So yeah,
super fun, excellent, excellent, and

1046
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,000
we have a call. Our friend
Mike Doyle is on the line. Hi,

1047
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:45,720
Mike, Hey, Matt, Hey, Jenny, and Hey a musical

1048
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,840
guest. I just turned you on. I thought you wearing your break because

1049
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:55,800
I heard the music. Oh and
then I realized you weren't, and realized

1050
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,279
it was an in studio guest,
and I just wanted to give him my

1051
01:29:00,359 --> 01:29:03,399
my two cents. It was fantastic. Thank you very much your metals in

1052
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:10,039
that song with the just enough singing
for those who I'm not really I don't

1053
01:29:10,039 --> 01:29:15,000
know if that's is that considered hard
rock or rock or yeah yeah, or

1054
01:29:15,039 --> 01:29:18,800
like progressive rock yeah yeah, yeah
yeah. So so somebody who's not into

1055
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:25,039
like the hard rock scene but likes
more of the mellow rock that that was

1056
01:29:25,119 --> 01:29:29,199
excellent. Thank you very much.
I appreciate that. Yeah, that's all

1057
01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:31,199
I wanted to say. That's from
a square, sixty five year old man

1058
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:35,840
that doesn't make had rock music.
Thank you. You're you're hipper than you

1059
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:40,439
know, sir. Yeah, I
know, I know. We'll talk you

1060
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,520
guys later, all right, Mike, thanks for the call. I appreciate

1061
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,479
it by that would be his generation, right hip. Yes, yeah,

1062
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,920
there you go, all right,
nice see her from our friend Mike Doyle.

1063
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,399
That does open up the line for
you six zo three two five zero

1064
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,560
six zero seven six zero three two
five zero six zero seven. Now with

1065
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:01,359
Pointless Culture, you guys, are
you got your currently recording right? Yeah,

1066
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:06,600
we're we're recording an EP and then
an album hopefully fairly soon after that.

1067
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:11,079
So we have like a four track
we're working on right now, and

1068
01:30:11,279 --> 01:30:15,760
yesterday we just finished up two of
those and then we gotta record one more

1069
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,680
and then we're pretty much on part
of release it probably in the next month

1070
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:23,520
or two. So that's really exciting. It's it's more of like an indie

1071
01:30:24,319 --> 01:30:27,640
punk type mix. Okay, so
it's a lot different than what I write,

1072
01:30:28,199 --> 01:30:30,439
but it's like in my wheelhouse still
and it's so much fun. Yeah.

1073
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,880
Our lead guy, who's also named
Harrison, is a fantastic songwriter.

1074
01:30:35,319 --> 01:30:39,880
A lot of the songs are all
of his, pretty much all of them

1075
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,119
actually, and I want to give
him some love too, and Ben and

1076
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:47,800
the band fantastic musicians, very fun
to work with. So yeah, we're

1077
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,920
we're on part of release that pretty
soon. It's gonna be just a little

1078
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,960
four track and kind of like going
over each of our style and you know,

1079
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:58,359
kind of like what we are as
a band, who we are as

1080
01:30:58,399 --> 01:31:00,760
a band, so forward that what
do you do in that? In that

1081
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,800
band? I'm the bass player.
Okay, that's what I figured because in

1082
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,640
the picture on Facebook, you're yep, you've got a bass Yeah, and

1083
01:31:09,119 --> 01:31:12,279
there's two guys named Harrison in the
band. There is, yeah, very

1084
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,840
rare occurrence. Yeah yeah, I
mean Harrison is not a super unusual name,

1085
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,159
but it's not super common either,
so yeah, that's funny. It's

1086
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:20,319
like in between, right, Yeah, and they both go by Harrison,

1087
01:31:20,399 --> 01:31:25,880
like neither of them's Harry or well
uh no, actually I just number them

1088
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:30,079
in my phone, so they're kind
of an order on how I met them.

1089
01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:34,359
So H one is who I named
our drummer, Harrison and who I

1090
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,760
used to live with, and H
two is our frontman and you know,

1091
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,640
kind of the lead and savior of
the band as I call them. But

1092
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,399
it's like a huge family in that
band. We got a whole like crew.

1093
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,680
It's it's a lot of fun.
We just played in Warner at the

1094
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,920
Summer Jam this past Saturday, a
lot of fun played to play a couple

1095
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,760
of new songs that we had,
you know, in the works, and

1096
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,239
they went super well. So you
know, this is this is really fun

1097
01:31:59,359 --> 01:32:02,159
to have like as a you know
kind of like I guess my main priority

1098
01:32:02,279 --> 01:32:06,760
right now, just because like I
haven't had like a working original band before,

1099
01:32:08,319 --> 01:32:12,079
and while guitar has always been like
my main instrument, I have found

1100
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:16,039
so much fun and enjoy playing bass. It's kind of like opened up that

1101
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:19,760
passion right back up again that you
know, may have like kind of dwindled

1102
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:24,560
over time because music is kind of
like taxing at times. Sure, but

1103
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:29,479
like just playing a new instrument primarily
like that is is a huge like just

1104
01:32:30,039 --> 01:32:31,079
breath or fresh air. Well,
I was gonna say too, it must

1105
01:32:31,079 --> 01:32:32,800
be a relief in a way.
I mean, obviously you have a lot

1106
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,399
of passion for Jan's Encoded, but
at the same time, not having to

1107
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:42,960
do everything yourself must be nice.
Yes, yeah, huge relief. But

1108
01:32:43,159 --> 01:32:44,960
you know, we all get to
you know, pull our way, We

1109
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,479
get to put on our input that
we you know when it comes to like

1110
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,359
writing our songs and like how they
want to go, you know, our

1111
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:55,079
our direction and you know, it's
it's nice to have that brotherhood with each

1112
01:32:55,119 --> 01:32:58,680
other. We're like very tight knit, and you know, we we always

1113
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,079
come to like some kind of like
solution or conclusion to how we want to

1114
01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:05,239
go about saying like recording the song
or writing this song, or what we

1115
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:10,960
play live, et cetera. So
it's a fun time and just couldn't ask

1116
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,399
for a better group of people.
Now, the the EP that you're recording,

1117
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,119
now, will that be the first
thing that you've released as a band?

1118
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:24,880
No? Last October. I think
October six we released some homebrew recordings

1119
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:30,000
called the Sampler, which was three
of our songs that we started, you

1120
01:33:30,079 --> 01:33:33,119
know, our shows with the Line's
Been Drawn left off in Little House.

1121
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:42,239
So those we recorded actually in our
drummer, Harrison's work, and we kind

1122
01:33:42,279 --> 01:33:44,479
of just set everything up through a
mixer and just kind of like you know,

1123
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,920
just just got something out there and
it turned out it came out pretty

1124
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,319
good. I would say, yeah, you know, for for being kind

1125
01:33:49,359 --> 01:33:56,239
of done on our own and fairly
quickly. Yeah, but our first recorded

1126
01:33:56,359 --> 01:34:00,159
like professional song like through Cedar House
Sound and Sutton Jerry Potto, Yeah,

1127
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:03,960
Yeah, he incredible guy to work
with, very very fun guy to talk

1128
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:09,560
to as well. We recorded Severed
Ties in a studio back in November,

1129
01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:13,640
released it in December, and that
was like our first, like I guess,

1130
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,359
breakthrough song and kind of bringing us
out into like the professionalism side of

1131
01:34:17,399 --> 01:34:20,359
things. And we're working with him
again for this EP and it's just been

1132
01:34:20,399 --> 01:34:26,279
an overall fantastic experience. Okay,
it gets better and better. Good goody

1133
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,840
has the How long has Poiless Culture
been around? Because I feel like I've

1134
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,600
heard the name even before Jenny mentioned
that she had booked you for the show,

1135
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:38,000
I feel like I've heard of the
band. So it's the four of

1136
01:34:38,119 --> 01:34:42,760
us have been a band with four
members since about March, but we were

1137
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,720
a three piece with I was with
the other two Harrisons for about a year.

1138
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,560
Oh okay, and then the other
two Harrisons who went by h Squared

1139
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:53,159
or Harrison Squared back then, they
were like, you know, jamming out.

1140
01:34:53,239 --> 01:34:55,800
They've reconnected with each other, and
you know, I was like,

1141
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,039
hey, I want I want to
play bass, you know, but they

1142
01:34:58,079 --> 01:35:00,479
asked me as well, and I
was like, yeah, let's do it.

1143
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:01,399
So we just kind of like formed
it, you know, one by

1144
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,840
one in a way. So as
a full three and four piece band,

1145
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,239
depending on how you look at it. I guess like we really got our

1146
01:35:09,319 --> 01:35:13,920
start a year ago and we kind
of ben our second second guitarists back in

1147
01:35:14,319 --> 01:35:16,520
February March time frame. I did
that. That's a cool name. Two

1148
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:21,359
pointless culture. What's what's the origin
of that name? So the both Harrison's

1149
01:35:21,399 --> 01:35:26,079
were trying to come up with a
name, and I fire correct me if

1150
01:35:26,119 --> 01:35:29,960
I'm wrong, Guys, if you're
listening, I think they were gonna go

1151
01:35:30,039 --> 01:35:33,840
with divorce Culture and then pointless something. But then they like kind of mended

1152
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:39,079
that, mended them together. Some
Pointless Culture was born. I kind of

1153
01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:43,279
fuzzy details, you know. They
were kind of going the same row I

1154
01:35:43,399 --> 01:35:45,119
did, and kind of like seeing, you know what sounded pretty good.

1155
01:35:45,359 --> 01:35:47,880
You know, we're generators are great
when it comes to that, and you

1156
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:53,399
gotta try to find something that's not
taken or you know, is is open

1157
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:58,000
to be used with. So I
think it kind of started the same way

1158
01:35:58,119 --> 01:36:00,920
that my name did. But they
kind of blet two words together yea from

1159
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,479
other names, and so you know, pointless Culture was born. And I

1160
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:08,720
love the name too. It's fantastic. Oh yeah, yeah, trying to

1161
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,720
find something that's not already taken.
That can be. That can be one

1162
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,119
of the hardest things. I mean, it's a lot easier than it used

1163
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:18,159
to be because now you know,
you can google it, you can look

1164
01:36:18,199 --> 01:36:20,840
it up. But I remember a
time. I've told this story on the

1165
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,159
show before, but I had a
friend I went to high school with and

1166
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:29,159
I remember running into him a couple
of years after high school, and he

1167
01:36:29,279 --> 01:36:30,800
was a musician too, and he
told me about this new band he was

1168
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:35,079
in, this uh rock band,
and I said, what's the name?

1169
01:36:35,119 --> 01:36:40,159
And he said Intuition and he said
that to me, and immediately I'm thinking,

1170
01:36:40,359 --> 01:36:44,760
oh god, there's probably so many
bands that have already used that name.

1171
01:36:45,079 --> 01:36:46,039
And then, swear to god,
I ran into him again a few

1172
01:36:46,079 --> 01:36:50,880
months later and the same place,
and I said, how's the band And

1173
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,600
he said, good, except we
had to change our name because we heard

1174
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,760
from another band already using that name. And I'm too polite to say anything,

1175
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,159
but in my mind, I'm thinking, yeah, of course, of

1176
01:37:00,279 --> 01:37:03,600
course you had to change it.
Intuition, like the most obvious, you

1177
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:08,439
know what I mean, Like,
of course it's probably a million different bands

1178
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:10,960
that have used that name, So
yeah, that can be. That can

1179
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,479
be a big part of the challenge
is just finding something where you're not going

1180
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,640
to run into a problem later exactly. Yeah. The more words the better,

1181
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,279
and the less common the word the
better too. It's it's very competitive

1182
01:37:19,319 --> 01:37:23,720
out there, not just with music
but with naming your music yea and all

1183
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,319
that. But you know, I'm
glad we're able to both find something both

1184
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,439
you know, the band and myself, something that we could both use and

1185
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,760
call our own. Yeah. That's
really really fortunate to be able to say

1186
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,479
that we can do that. Now. Did you guys play out a lot

1187
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:42,439
with that project. Yeah, we
played at the Bang and Answer Stage last

1188
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,239
August this past August, and that
was our probably our biggest show yet.

1189
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,319
Cool, but we haven't played a
ton. We've played maybe six or so.

1190
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:54,680
We have one coming up in Acworth
on the twenty third, and our

1191
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:59,600
first one was at Tandy's Pub in
downtown Conqueror and that was the night before.

1192
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,840
It was like a little release party
for sever ties because it was coming

1193
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,439
out that midnight, you know,
of the of the next day. Yeah,

1194
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,720
so we were like, let's,
you know, let's do a cool

1195
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:11,439
little show there and we got some
help from a friend of ours Kurt Felder,

1196
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,720
who runs like, you know,
kind of like music journal journaling like

1197
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,760
YouTube videos and very talented guy.
Yeah, really cool guy too, and

1198
01:38:19,359 --> 01:38:23,680
he helped us get that gig.
Okay, So and then you know,

1199
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,239
we had kind of like a little
drought in between. We added Ben,

1200
01:38:26,399 --> 01:38:29,920
we were kind of learning some new
songs. Then it wasn't until maybe this

1201
01:38:30,039 --> 01:38:31,960
past you know, summer, where
we started to really get some more shows

1202
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,920
booked. But it can be tough
to get them booked now. Yeah,

1203
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,000
I mean, summer is usually probably
the busiest time, oh yeah, for

1204
01:38:42,319 --> 01:38:44,319
you guys as far as shows,
right, I mean, I know a

1205
01:38:44,399 --> 01:38:46,920
lot of bands, will you know, kind of use winter to sort of

1206
01:38:47,159 --> 01:38:50,479
record and then you know, and
then you know, spring, summer,

1207
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:56,319
early fall to play out. But
that seems to be the easiest one.

1208
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:58,439
I mean, you know, I
don't play anymore, but when I was

1209
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,800
in bands, I was always to
me, that was always the best way

1210
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,920
to do it, because you know, in the winter it's just miserable too.

1211
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:09,000
Yeah. I've played shows before when
I was lugging equipment in the winter

1212
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:14,640
up upstairs outside and slipping almost dropping
stuff and it's miserable. Yeah, But

1213
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:16,600
yeah, we're kind of going that
same route. You know, we're just

1214
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,560
kind of taking the maybe the winner, maybe a few shows here and there,

1215
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:23,880
but like kind of taking that time
to really focus on recording more stuff.

1216
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,039
Yeahcu, we have so many things
that we want to add to you

1217
01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:30,439
know, the music world out there, so you know, it's it's kind

1218
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,199
of like the opportune time to do
all that. Yeah, we're really trying

1219
01:39:32,199 --> 01:39:35,800
to book for next year. Yeah, excellent spring summer excellent, excellent.

1220
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,600
Well, why don't we play another? Why don't we play another eons Encoded

1221
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,800
song? I yeah, I definitely
want to get one more in before we

1222
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,760
run out of time. But I'll
let I'll let you choose one again.

1223
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,680
What stuck. Let's go back to
the first album, inspect Element. Let's

1224
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:59,159
do let's do heading Away, Hiding
Away. Yeah, I think I've listened

1225
01:39:59,159 --> 01:40:00,199
to that one. That's the one
I want to go for a def Ton

1226
01:40:00,279 --> 01:40:03,640
style style vocal. Oh okay,
well I'm very okay, I don't I

1227
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,520
don't think I did listen to this
one. Then all right, well I'm

1228
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:10,199
very curious now, all right,
cool, so let's give this a listen.

1229
01:40:10,239 --> 01:40:15,079
This is this is Hidden Away.
The artist is eons Encoded and that

1230
01:40:15,319 --> 01:40:17,680
is eons Encoded on the couch.
That is Nolan Coda, the man behind

1231
01:40:17,920 --> 01:43:11,279
Eons Encoded. Let's check this out. This is called hidden Away old way

1232
01:43:18,359 --> 01:44:00,640
pick up, remember pick pick up, pickmember, the tree, the world

1233
01:44:00,720 --> 01:45:20,359
before you got those dramatic endings.
I love it. That is. Uh.

1234
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:26,039
That one's called hidden Away and that
is eons Encoded. And Nolan Coda

1235
01:45:26,359 --> 01:45:30,000
from Eons Encoded is here with us. He is on the couch in studio

1236
01:45:30,079 --> 01:45:32,880
with Jenny and I and we've been
featuring some of that music and we've been

1237
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,800
talking a lot, and we are
live on w MH ninety five point three

1238
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:40,319
FM. Uh if you want to
get in with a call, if you

1239
01:45:40,359 --> 01:45:44,560
have any questions or anything for Nolan, do it quickly because we're almost out

1240
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:46,520
of show. But the studio line
is open six zero three two five o

1241
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,279
six seven six three two five oh
six zero seven. And we do have

1242
01:45:50,319 --> 01:45:55,640
another family member. I believe Belinda
Brooks Coda is in the Facebook live chat.

1243
01:45:56,039 --> 01:45:59,159
Hey Graham. Very nice, it's
very nice. It's cool that they

1244
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:01,960
that are supportive and that uh,
you know, they come out to listen.

1245
01:46:02,199 --> 01:46:06,640
I love it. I love it. That is that is outstanding now

1246
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:11,680
what obviously, so you're you're pretty
busy, it sounds like with pointless culture,

1247
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,640
But do you have more eons and
coded music coming as well? Or

1248
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,359
I have a I have a couple
of songs that I'm kind of slowly chipping

1249
01:46:17,399 --> 01:46:23,720
away at. Uh. One of
them is an older track I had back

1250
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:28,520
in like twenty fourteen called Vanishing Point, and I don't know when that will

1251
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,119
be done, but it's it's got
about a minute or so so far.

1252
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:35,560
Just gotta you know, just you
know, get at it and when I

1253
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:40,039
can. Yeah, it's so hard. Yeah, with with how much I'm

1254
01:46:40,119 --> 01:46:43,239
doing and how many you know,
different products I'm a part of it,

1255
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,600
you know, it's hard to find
that time, uh, to really sit

1256
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:50,720
down and focus on that stuff.
But it's it's gonna come. It's gonna

1257
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:55,439
come, and there's yeah, I'm
never gonna stop doing aon's it's just I

1258
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:59,000
don't know when you know, I'm
gonna be able to pick it up again

1259
01:46:59,079 --> 01:47:03,319
comfortably, right and and stay with
it and you know, burning out,

1260
01:47:03,399 --> 01:47:08,479
burning yourself out's just you know,
not the move right right. So,

1261
01:47:09,399 --> 01:47:14,119
but it's gonna come. It's gonna
come. My Facebook and Instagram are you

1262
01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:16,920
know the best way to keep in
you know, contact with me or see

1263
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,000
what I'm up to for especially eons, because I have just made an account

1264
01:47:20,039 --> 01:47:23,640
for that, yeah, not long
ago, just to keep it separate from

1265
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,840
my own my own stuff. But
all those updates will be on there,

1266
01:47:28,199 --> 01:47:30,479
uh you know, when I get
to it. But I got a couple

1267
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,079
of things. Yeah, I'm working
on. And for people looking for eons

1268
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:39,039
encoded online too, we should just
clarify for anyone who doesn't know eons is

1269
01:47:39,039 --> 01:47:43,439
spelled a e O N S.
People might be looking for it without the

1270
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:45,800
A and unable to find it.
But I wanted to go with the European

1271
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,960
spelling it look cooler. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know if I've ever

1272
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:53,279
seen it spelled the other way.
Can't use Is it sometimes spelled without the

1273
01:47:53,359 --> 01:47:57,880
A? Yeah, I discover that
e O NS is kind of the more

1274
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:01,359
western US way of spelling, like
with the added A is kind of European.

1275
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,319
It just looked cooler to me.
Oh yeah, yeah, no,

1276
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,680
it is cool. I think it's
pronounced the same you can say as it's

1277
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,760
all it all means the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, see, I

1278
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:14,479
have seen it spelled without the A, but I just assumed who people who

1279
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,159
are spelling it without the a,
we're spelling it wrong. But but but

1280
01:48:16,279 --> 01:48:20,680
maybe that is maybe that is acceptable. English is weird. Yeah yeah,

1281
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:26,319
or sometimes things are wrong, but
over time they become accepted because exactly spelled

1282
01:48:26,399 --> 01:48:30,600
wrong or spoken wrong so often.
Yeah, I just thought it looked pretty

1283
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,119
cool. Yeah, yeah, no, it does. It definitely does.

1284
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:35,039
It definitely does. Well. I'm
really glad you joined us today, and

1285
01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:39,000
we'll we'll actually close out the show
with one more track in a moment.

1286
01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:42,920
But this has been wonderful, and
thank you very much. Absolutely, like

1287
01:48:43,039 --> 01:48:45,039
well, you know, like I
said, we've been playing your music for

1288
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:47,800
long enough, might as well have
you on. Yeah, very very humble

1289
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,199
and you know, happy to be
here. Yeah, no, thanks again,

1290
01:48:50,279 --> 01:48:55,479
absolutely thank you for coming in and
and I look forward to to getting

1291
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,920
pointless culture, to getting you guys
in here as well. Oh my god,

1292
01:48:59,039 --> 01:49:01,159
yeah that would be We're we're super
excited. That'll be. That'll be

1293
01:49:01,239 --> 01:49:04,159
cool. Jenny, did you want
to before we go, you want to

1294
01:49:04,199 --> 01:49:10,199
plug your website or anything, or
you can find me at Jencoffee dot com

1295
01:49:10,399 --> 01:49:14,720
j E N N C O F
f EI dot com and you'll see writings

1296
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:20,039
and paintings and sometimes I post updates
on there as well with a fight for

1297
01:49:20,159 --> 01:49:25,720
healthcare. Yes, yes, absolutely, all right, and if you miss

1298
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:27,960
any part of today's show, it
will be up in just a little bit

1299
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,439
at w m H radio dot org
and in my website Matt Connerton dot com.

1300
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:39,600
And uh, let's if you want
to pick one more Nolan, we'll

1301
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:44,560
we'll play one more to play us
out. Let's stumbious. That's the one

1302
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:48,119
that somehow has the most plays and
it's oh anything crazy, It's just kind

1303
01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:51,239
of a fun little jam. Oh
interesting, which which one is that on?

1304
01:49:51,359 --> 01:49:55,359
Is that on Coff? That's on
inspect Element. It's kind of like

1305
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:59,000
my closer. Yeah, it's a
fun little tune. Okay, yeah,

1306
01:49:59,039 --> 01:50:00,159
we'll go with that a A right, very cool. All right. So

1307
01:50:00,319 --> 01:50:05,520
this is uh, this is Mobius
from the releases Inspect Element, from Ian's

1308
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:09,800
and Coded Nolan. Thank you again, my friend, thank you very much

1309
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,720
for having me. Absolutely and here
it is. This is Mobius.