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Ninety five miles an hour riding to
his head. You hop it down first

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with the lump bonius face, and
on the very next pitch he up and

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stole second face with gretest beeed he
wasn't born. He had the di Yes

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uniform. All right, Happy New
Year, everyone. Welcome to episode seventeen

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of the Prospect B Sides Podcast.
I am Nate Handy, joining me as

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always is rook Vin Rokster. How
are you's right? I am excellent.

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Happy New Year to you, twenty
twenty four. May all of your dynasty

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dreams come true. Well, one
of those dreams is kicking your ass in

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the league, So let's hope that
happens. We'll see, I'm making moves

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and you're sitting there just saying you're
not getting offered enough for Freddy Freeman.

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But I'm not here making moves for
aces. I'm marinate man. You gotta

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let things bake, you know.
I just make as many trades as possible.

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I'm out here like Jerry Depoto,
a j preller. You got a

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trade, you get a trade,
you get a trade. Well, we're

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gonna start off the new year with
some first year players. We're gonna get

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into first year player. That's first
year player drafts. Matt. I hear

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you've got a soapbox to get on. Well, I mean, I'm gonna

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try not to, but I guess
I have so many little berks. But

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first year player drafts, guys,
dynasty players, this is your time to

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like really express yourself, have fun, get your guys. This idea of

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chalk and value in a first year
player draft, Matt, it really just

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kind of drives me crazy. Well, you got you got to tip the

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top of a draft right where there's
probably I don't know, five to ten

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first year players that are probably the
more logical responsible bets. But then I

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don't know, after that, go
get your guys your every draft, I've

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been doing this for a little while. Every single draft there are guys that

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are complete busts at the top,
studs throughout studs at the end. Even

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even a thirty team, one hundred
and fifty two hundred player draft, and

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you can still get Ty Francis and
Edward Julians at the end of the draft.

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I just want folks to loosen up
a little bit. Here. So

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many, so many first year player
draft boards and ranks, and I'm not

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and I'm not knocking anyone who does
this, but they all look so similar,

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and I'm just always very suspicious of
a league when everything is going as

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consensus. I mean, where does
consensus come from in first year player drafts,

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Matt, how does it come to
be? And we have I think

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it's like it's like anything in when
you've got public analysts, right, you

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see what other people say, and
there's a little bit of the natural tendency

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not to want to separate yourself from
the herd or the hive mind. And

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I do think that it coalesces.
And then there's also just only so much

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space that everyone can devote to this, and so it's pretty easy to look

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at and say, well, this
person was picked in the first round,

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this person public guru says x y
Z, And I think that for a

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lot of people were looking at some
of the same things. And you know,

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I said this yesterday when I wrote
that little article for Cleig that it

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was ranking prospects is super hard.
Even when you have quite a bit of

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data from minor league, right different
from many minor league seasons, there just

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isn't as much information for these guys, and so I think some of the

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like clumping tends to happen maybe a
little bit more because there's more uncertainty,

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right, No, I agree,
I feel like there's a lot of false

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confidence in all of this. Like
so, and then again, I'm not

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I'm not knocking anyone. This is
this is hard stuff. There's so much

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unknown, there's so much more gauntlet
for these players to have to get through.

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But like, no one in the
dynasty world really there's a few are

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like following amateurs year long, very
focused, strictly, strictly looking at amateurs,

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right and yet, so then we
have a draft in the summertime,

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and then first year player draft ranks
come out a month or two after that,

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and then that like kind of sets
it, and then it's still without

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there's so much more still to be
learned till you know, whenever most drafts

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are January February. Got players that
start hitting pro ball, we can start

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watching them against other pros. You
know, there's think of like Evan Carter's

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of the world, who no one
really saw coming in the second round.

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We can still learn about these guys
we didn't know about them before. I

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feel like it just kind of perpetuates
itself, and well and on the other

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side of things too. It's like
you maybe did pay attention to a conference

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or a school, or you saw
a lot of a guy in college,

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and these guys are the best of
the best, but then they hit pro

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ball and they struggle or they aren't
as good as they seemed. That for

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me was a big wake up way
back when I was playing, where we

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would sit there across the diamond from
some elite prospects and be like, this

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guy is great, this guy kind
of sucks, this guy's overrated, and

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then see them get drafted in various
places and then a lot of them really

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struggled. I mean, I remember
Ike Davis was I think had the best

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batting practice that I had ever seen
in college. He played at Arizona State

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and we played against him, and
this guy went just line drive over the

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shortsteps, head line drive over the
second base, line drive over the second

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baseman's head in its first swings in
batting practice, then line drive off the

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opposite field wall, line drive off
the center field wall, line drive off

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the right field wall for his second
round of batting practice, and then his

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third round of batting practice, opposite
field home run, center field home run,

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pulled right field home run. It
was some insane shit. And like

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I played on the same field as
him many times, and I was like,

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I can't do that. That guy's
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first round and had an okay career
but ended up playing out after a couple

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of years, and I was like, that's the best hitter I've ever seen,

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you know, Yeah, And so
like even those kinds of things,

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you can follow somebody pretty closely in
the amateur side of things, but until

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they're facing really great pitchers day and
day out, you know, Iron Sharpen's

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iron, right, and you don't
really know until you see him on the

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highest stage. So I think there's
some of that too. And I think

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we'll talk a little bit about this
with some of the guys that we've both

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flagged where we really liked something about
their either prep or undergrad careers. But

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there's more information to be had as
soon as you see him in pro ball.

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You know, this idea of like
getting the most value out of your

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pick in the first year player draft, Like this isn't NFBC. This isn't

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like super scientific NFBC redraft stuff.
There's more of a science to it.

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There's more numbers that can be applied
to it. This stuff. Like so

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many times earlier in playing Dynasty,
I'd feel like, well, this guy

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was the first rounder. I've got
to can't I can't drop him to hear,

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I've got to pick him if he
comes to here. I say,

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screw all that. You do not
have to pick a player just because they

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were drafted high or given a lot
of money. We have seen plenty of

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dudes just absolutely suck and never be
anything. Yeah, And I think that's

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something that's something that I've learned,
even just in the last year or so

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talking with you, Nate and listening
to you, because being in on your

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guys and having a reason for it
and like you know, do your own

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research, or you really like watching
somebody play, like put your flag down

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and actually buy in. I mean, I'm guilty of this a lot.

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Like I do try and run the
numbers. I do try and make sure

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that I'm advancing something about my team
with every trade that I make, even

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if some like I lose, but
it works for me because I made a

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roster move that helped out my team
in the long run, or I had

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a roster crunch and I needed to
get something out of it. I'm always

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trying to read paper clip with trades. I rarely am trying to do a

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trade that helps somebody else more than
me, and that sometimes for historically,

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I would hw too closely to prospect
rankings and say like, well, this

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guy's ranked really highly, Like yeah, i'll take him back. One that

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I remember from last year was Dowdy
was Toronto second baseman. He was in

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college performer and all of this,
Like he was like a second round pick

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or something and had a lot of
helium and was like back in top one

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hundreds for a couple of people,
and so I like accept did him as

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one of the main pieces back in
a small trade that I did, And

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after I watched him, i'd already
made the trade. I watched him,

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I dug into it. I was
like, this guy's terrible, Like he's

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never going to make the major leagues. I'm way out. But I fell

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for it because he was a back
end top one hundred guy for some people.

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And that was because he got paid
a decent amount of money and was

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a relatively high traffick. And I
think I'm much more likely now to make

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a trade that might look to an
industry person or some talking head or some

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loudmouth, and our discord like,
hey, you got taken for a ride

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on this trade, Like what are
you doing? Because I'm like, honestly,

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I disagree. I think this guy
is going to be really good.

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And I've made a couple of those
trades in our league. You've refrained from

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calling me an idiot, Nate,
but you know, I think some of

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the people in the league were chomping
at the bit when some of my trades

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went through. They're like, you
traded what for? What? So I'm

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more willing to look like an idiot
now because I find my guides that I

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like and and I think to your
point, seeing that in f ypds,

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like have your own lists, you
know, if you've got especially in these

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this is when this is when you
get to do this when there's not what's

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what's the repercussions? What what if
you what if you didn't take Austin Martin

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in the top five or top two
like everyone said you had to, like

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especially in leagues where you can pick
up prospects during the season, like in

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my opinion, you don't have anything
to lose. Your guys, is the

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guy that you wanted to go for
ends up sucking cool. Now I got

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a spot that I can fill with
some Christian Scott or whoever. Right,

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I mean, you don't have anything
to lose. Man, Like I missed

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out on a stud. You're you're
gonna miss out on a stud. It's

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gonna happen. Someone's gonna pop that
you weren't on. Somebody that you pick

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is gonna suck like. It's just
that's going to happen. You're not batting

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a thousand here, So I don't
know, I just I a little too

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unreasonably so, just annoyed when people
talk about chalk in first year player drafts,

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there is no chalk, no,
you know, like this is like

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the dude the White Sox took Gonzalez, Jacob Gonzalez off my board fifteen old

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well pick not taking him like under
no circumstance. I don't care if I'm

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in the fifth round of my thirty
teamer. I'm just not and I'm not

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going to lose sleep over it,
even if he turns into some stud which

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I would never bet on. Just
have more fun with it. It's nice

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much. I think I think that's
I think that is a great perspective on

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this of like have some fun with
it. This is a chance to reach

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for somebody, you know that that
might be great. And also like if

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you do some homework and you end
up finding yourself way higher on somebody,

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like it's a great way to trade
back. I did this in one of

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my deep dynasty leagues last year,
where I had already traded away a couple

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of my earlier picks. And the
way that that league does it, even

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the first round of that draft is
like thirty picks deep already, so it's

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like if you have the first pick
in the FYPD, it's actually like the

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thirty first pick of the draft.
H and so it's already super deep.

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My guys that I was looking at, I was like, nobody cares about

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these guys. So I was just
trading back and trading back and trading back,

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and ended up getting a few guys
that I turned into other pieces like

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that I was able to trade away
later in the year, and then a

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couple that never panned out. But
like that happens. You know, that's

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just that's just the name of the
game for sure. And you know,

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I wanted to ask you too.
So these players that we're going to talk

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about they were drafted in what July
now, right beginning of July. Then

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they get you know, they get
up to like one hundred and fifty played

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appearances in pro ball, some of
them. Right, what's your what's your

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take on this? Two players in
particular, I think are a good example.

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So you've got Tase Davis, who's
drafted in the first round, right,

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A lot of buzz, a lot
of hype about him, right,

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people had him initially very high on
their first year player draft ranks, and

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he hits the Florida State League and
just quite frankly sucks. Right. Then

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you got a what Chase Boafran,
who I've never seen play because he hasn't

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been televised, but put up amazing
numbers, right and has gotten some love

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from people who have more and sophisticated
information than I same league crushes it.

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But he was drafted in what like
the sixth round or something, I don't

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know what it was. Okay,
So now today, like, how much

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weight do you put into that,
Like, would you take Boafron over Chase

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Davis? Yeah, that's a tough
question. And I think we'll get into

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this with some of the guys that
we've we've lined up to talk about,

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because there are a couple of guys
that I'm really interested in that were more

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like Chase Davis if they had sort
of underwhelming debuts and if you go on

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their fangraft, you're like, oh, this guy debuted wasn't very good.

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But if you don't do the extra
step of like how was he in college

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and who did he play and all
of that, it looks like a terrible

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player who's flopping already. And so
I think generally you want to put more

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weight on the bigger samples, so
like you really should care about their college

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career. There's more information that you
can glean from that, especially with some

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of the reporting that you get from
Baseball America and from Chris Clegg, Like

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they report some of the things that
are a little bit more useful looking at

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their ninetieth percentile exit velo stuff,
and then you know you can infer a

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lot about their competition based on what
kind of conference they're in. That said,

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I think you want all of the
information, and so if you do

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see some red flags that pop up
in their pro debuts, it's worth paying

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attention to that, Like, it's
worth seeing that and Chase Davis. He's

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one that I think there might be
some signal to the bad debut in the

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fact that he wasn't very good on
the cape and was just downright awful and

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pro ball like he might be a
guy that he's just not that good with

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wood bats, and that some of
the things that he was doing maybe were

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inflated by some of the things that
college programs can do. I know that

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this is something that I've heard from
one of my buddies who's a college coach,

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that there are programs that fully exploit
all the things they can, and

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sometimes that means that rolling to try
and break the BSR, the sort of

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limiting the impact that the bats can
do. So those sort of unlocked bats

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add to the exit velos that are
reported and of course the performance that comes

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out of that. And then when
you can't do that and you're hitting with

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wood like some guys, I think
it's a big red flag when they don't

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hit the ground and perform. And
someone whose whole profile depends on hitting for

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power like that poke some holes in
him, and it certainly made me pause

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because I thought he was like a
really interesting guy coming into the draft and

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seeing just how poor he was like, I think you gotta take that into

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account. Yeah, yeah, I
don't disagree with anything you said there,

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but I do have to say,
over the years, I admit that I've

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become and I'm just way more like, prove it right this. I understand

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you're drafted in a different place,
you're paying a different amount of money,

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and I think that says a lot
in regard to what the organization thinks about

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you and what kind of opportunity you're
going to have. But for me,

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it's like once they hit pro ball
like that, that matters a lot more

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to me than I think it used
to. So I'm much more likely now

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today to just say, yeah,
Chase Davis, I was, I was

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interested in you made a lot of
money. Cardinals are very hopeful you have

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a lot of skills, But like
this, dude, Boafron has been kicking

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your ass, and I don't think
it's that much of a worse gamble to

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take a chance on you. So
I don't know that's It's just something that

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I've noticed has changed for me to
some degree over the years. Yeah,

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it's a balance, right, and
I think you do have to do it

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on a case by case basis.
There are some guys to their performance is

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just so exceptional that you can't help
but be like, wow, I'm a

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hater and I can't find anything to
hte about this. You know, you

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look at just how incredible Why at
Langford's debut was. You know, he

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had the great college performance. He
was sort of statistically like scouting wise,

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right up there at the very very
tippy top, and then he hit the

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ground and just absolutely destroyed the minor
leagues. This is like a no doubt

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number one prospect for me. Like
everyone's so excited about your Jackson holidays and

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even your churios. What Why at
Langford just did is like, to me

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more impressive than what they've done,
and is like he kind of earned that

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again, like he had a lot
to like coming into college, Like the

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body of his work before hitting pro
ball was really really great. But what

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he did once he got to college, and even if some of it is

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a bit of a mirage, it's
still just like, holy crap, that

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was incredible. There are some other
guys that are like that too. You

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know, obviously you know your boy
Colt Emerson, like I know how you

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feel about Marini's prospects, and like
that just impressed you so much that Cole

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Emerson's probably like top top four pick, top three pick for you now not

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quite dark. Yeah, so I
you want to follow me on Twitter at

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Pitching Specs. I shared a Google
sheet with about forty four guys that kind

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of got my hitters that got my
attention in full season ball doing my video

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review for this. There's also a
tab on there see this, man,

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I could never do like first year
player draft rankings because I have guys on

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there where I don't have guys on
there that probably have value but not for

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me. But there's also a tab
on there where I think I listed about

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sixties No. Ninety nine first year
player domestic bats and very loosely arranged them

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how I might be coming to the
draft table with my ideas. We can

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talk about this list for at least
four hours. I just like, I

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love so much about it, and
I like it down that it's almost more

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exciting the people that you left off
the list than the people on the list.

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So we're going to be mostly positive
today. I think, yeah,

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let's do it. Let's start the
guys that we like. Yeah, I

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still have I still have two hitters
from our b side selection organizational thing that

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we did that I have not talked
about because they were first year player draft

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bats. Now, both of these
guys, I think on my list there

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I've got like around fifty, so
I'm not like going to be super aggressive

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about them in first year player drafts, but interesting enough to me to be

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a B side selection. And you
know that range from shoot, I don't

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know, freaking twenty to sixty seventy. The rest of the yes, it

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was just pretty much the same glob
For me. It's more about what kind

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of player do you want to do
you want to go after, what kind

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of opportunity, how much more needs
to be you know, developed for them

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to be an everyday player sort of
thing. And I'm still very much in

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the process of learning about a lot
of these players and watching a lot of

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them still, So it's all it's
all very rough draft until I'm on the

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clock. But the two bats I
wanted to talk about two B side selections

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quickly. My Baltimore bat was Matthew
Etzel. I like it. I like

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it, yeah, And I know
he got a little bit of popularity.

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I think he got some good pub
but he was a tenth round pick out

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of Southern myst The Orioles debated him
about one hundred and sixty seven K signing

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bonus between A and I A.
This year he got in one hundred and

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twenty four plate appearances. He hit
two home runs and stole twenty one bases.

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He's a lefty, who I think
what? I don't know? What

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do they have him listed at?
Isn't that super big? Maybe not quite

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small enough to join your crew?
But getting there? Hey, he's six

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two two eleven, strapping young fellow? Is that what they hadnam listening to?

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Really, I'm going to take the
under. But okay, all right,

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I think you're just taking the younger
under because he looks awkward. But

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he's a good athlete, like he's
a he's a strapping young fellow. I

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mean it could be that this gift
that I'm currently watching, the homeplate umpire

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is seven foot four. I mean
that could be. So what his walk

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percentage was sixteen point nine percent,
struck out eighteen and a half percent.

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So you like that sort of thing, mat, sure? Do? Uh?

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He slashed three twenty three, four
fifty five five ten the one eighty

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eight ISO That was good enough for
one hundred and sixty nine WRC plus in

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the bad ball profile. There's I
think a lot to like there, pulls

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the ball forty six percent of the
time, doesn't hit it on the ground

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too much. Watching him, I
would say he does have no no,

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there is something I can't quite articulate
it, but there is something a little

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slightly awkward about his swing, Matt, do you think so? Definitely?

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Oh, yes, my notes,
because I articulate what it is well,

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I can try. I liked Etsel
a lot too when I was evaluating the

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Baltimore system, and he kind of
reminds me of a guy that I played

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with who had sort of similar a
similar swing where he makes a lot of

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contact and is really fast, and
I think has leaned into that in his

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career, and so he is sort
of staying really short to the ball,

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like he had a coach that was
like, you need to stay short to

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the ball over everything, unlike another
guy that we're going to talk about.

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Any think he's trying to be as
short to every ball as possible, and

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that means that his hands are sort
of always inside the baseball, which you

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hear old school hitting people talk about
that is like such a good thing,

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but for somebody like and for someone
like him, it works, but it

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looks kind of awkward, whereas you
look at someone who has sort of a

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i'd call it like a modern optimized
swing like your besios or some other guys

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that we talked about like this that
really get their arms extended. You know,

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this is this is the your Don
Alvarez swing of like you're clearing your

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elbows and then getting the barrel out
so that you can pull the ball in

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the air. Etzel. Despite his
pull, you know, forty six percent

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is solid for a pole. He's
hitting a lot of line drives, and

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I think a lot of that is
like, even when he's pulling it,

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he's still keeping his hands inside the
ball. And so I'm betting that when

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we see his exit blows as he
gets up higher, that they're going to

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be underwhelming, even though he's a
strong athletic guy, because of this kind

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of awkward tendency to stay really inside
the ball. So that's that's my best

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way to describe it. Yeah,
that makes that makes sense. Thank you,

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Thank you for that. There's something
about him too, especially like the

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way that he turns on inside pitches
that kind of reminds me a little bit

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of Brett Wisely too. Well,
Yeah, I've liked in the past,

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who just hasn't found the major league
success yet. Yeah, so excellent,

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And I do admit if he wasn't
in the Oriole system, I probably would

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want to be a little bit more
aggressive with him. I just think he's

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going to have to be really freaking
good the rest of the way. So

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I don't know. I don't know
if that has played into it for you,

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Matt, as far as you might
be valuing him these upcoming drafts,

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but it has for me a little. Yeah, And you know where,

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You've got him ranked as pretty similar
to where I had him, which is

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way higher than I'd seen him anywhere
else. Like, I think that this

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kind of profile gets under valued in
the Dynasty community, Like this is sort

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of a kind of a Brett Gardner
starter kit. Like he's speedy, He's

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going to be able to play the
outfield reasonably well. So seeing him as

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a left field or fourth outfielder type
who makes a lot of contact, has

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some speed, I think there's more
power there and it might take a swing

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tweak to get to all of it. But I liked him a lot,

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and I was a fan, even
despite sort of the awkward swing. I

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think there's a real player here.
Yeah, he's got he's pretty, he's

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pretty smooth up there, a smooth
line drive stroke. So yeah, so

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that's so, that's that's the oriole
I went with. And then what was

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the other organ Oh and then I
needed to talk about my angel. So

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there was very little to see of
my choice Joe Redfield. There was an

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injury, he was playing some series
that were not broadcast out there in the

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Northwest League. But this was an
organization. It really came down to two

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first year of players for me.
But I decided to go with Redfield more

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out of curiosity. He didn't really
like blow up the statuet here. Sixty

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five played appearances between the complex and
Hia hit a home run, he stole

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three bags, walked nine percent of
the time, struck out seventeen percent of

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the time. He slashed two forty
six, three thirty eight four h four.

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But red Field, Matt, I
just I kind of have an infatuation

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with this and I don't tend to
understand it all that well. But he's

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got super wide bass, super wide
standard. I don't know, bagwell style

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like my guy Canceal does with all
those hitters in the Rocky system's and he's

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really you know, baseball uniforms are
not the most flattering all the time,

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but you can like just tell that
this guy, he doesn't he doesn't miss

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like upper body days. He's strong, and he's got some speed, and

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I think he's a true center field
prospect who I just want to see if

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he can hit hit enough to uh
get a major league role, but perhaps

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a little bit, perhaps a nice
little blend of hit, pop and speed

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might get dynasty. Dynasty interesting that
you know, this very deep level interesting.

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I'm gonna make a note and watch
a little of him. He's not

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one that on any of my lists. He's very simple up there. He's

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you know, like I said,
standing really wide, lifts the foot up

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a little bit and then unleash is
what I think is a pretty pretty good

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looking line drive type of stroke.
And like I said, I think he's

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pretty strong. Interesting. You know, fourth round pick isn't anything, uh

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take too lightly. You know,
would they pay him about half a million?

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Yeah, I'm pretty solid too for
a mid major guy and one who

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was you know, fine on the
cape, I'd say, you know,

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yeah, I'm just, but I
just, I'm just I don't get how

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people can hit like this, how
they can generate so much pop. It's

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fascinating to me. I'm watching his
gift right now. The one I got

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is just from behind home plate taking
Hayden winder yard. But there's there's definitely

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some video and some side views of
him out there. I just haven't cut

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him up. Interesting. He said
that was a homer. Yeah, nice,

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Yeah, that was his one home
run on the season. Nice.

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All right, nice, Paul.
Here, let me let me show you

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something. I have a picture of
him from the side here. That's how

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wide. Oh yeah? Nice?
All right, Matt, So those are

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the you didn't have any uh first
of your player B sides? Did you

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you did? I did well?
The floor is yours, my friend,

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I did well. Just to rehash
the couple that I had touched on CJ.

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Kafis was, oh yeah, I
picked I think seventh in our in

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our initial draft, and I again, he's one of these like really interesting

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profiles where he's a first baseman,
but he's played a little bit of outfield

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but has some speed, so it's
not clear to me why he couldn't play

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a little outfield and pros, and
he just had one of the most impressive

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debuts of any draftd absolutely crushed stole
bases, crushed home runs, a low

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babbb and still put up just an
incredible triple slash. So Cjkpiss is one

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that, like, I was so
pumped on. It's like, you look

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at him, he walks, he
doesn't strike out that much. He lifts

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his pulled fly balls and gets homers
that way. It's like that is you

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know, there's not a lot of
projection. This isn't someone you're looking at

407
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.920
and say like, oh, he's
going to be XYZ kind of guy.

408
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:29.680
But I think he's good enough that
he's going to hit and become a real

409
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.519
prospect to at least given what he's
seen so far. Is there any concern

410
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:38.240
that to you that he hit line
drives at a six point three percent clip,

411
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:45.599
I think it's pretty small samples.
And he hit a lot of flyballs

412
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.000
and pulled them and they got out, you know, so like there's there.

413
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:55.200
I was looking at somebody else who
had a similar really low line drive

414
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.640
rate. Again small sample, but
as like, this guy's awesome. He

415
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.240
just didn't hit many lines drives,
but it didn't matter because it was like

416
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:08.319
homers. Did he legit spray the
ball evenly Pool Center and APPO thirty everywhere?

417
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.319
Did he That's what I got down
here. I think he might have,

418
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.519
but I think when he hit the
ball in the air, it was

419
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.480
pulled like that was at least I
watched a lot of him because I you

420
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.400
know, saw the line and then
was super intrigued because I hadn't heard anybody

421
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.880
talk about him at all at this
point back in September, and his like

422
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:36.960
watching watching this guy just nuke balls. I was like, this is a

423
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:41.240
real hitter, Like how did he
only get seven hundred grand in the third

424
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.559
round from a big program like Miami. And it's also sort of an interesting

425
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:51.839
guy for Cleveland to go after.
He's not doesn't really seem like their type.

426
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:56.599
Although his his U college numbers were
not quite as gaudy as he as

427
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.559
he was in No, you're right, he was like thirty three percent each

428
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.279
way. But I think it was
just like the dude when he was pulling

429
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:08.000
the ball, it was in the
air and hit four homers in seventy seven

430
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:15.240
played appearances. That's ridiculous for a
guy like this. Matt we're somewhat becoming

431
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.960
accidentally like a Miami Hurricane podcast too, I know. And the other guy

432
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.480
that I'm going to talk about is
my He was my NATS hitter, also

433
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:33.000
from the Hurricanes. This He was
a comp pick or early second rounder I

434
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.680
think this past year, and I
feel like he kind of fell in the

435
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:45.519
draft according to some Yeah, he
did, and he ended up not having

436
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.519
a good debut. And I think
this is part of why I wanted to

437
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.160
talk about him, because he's a
pretty boy, like he was a I

438
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.759
think a top thirty prospect for a
couple people coming into the draft because he

439
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.720
basically did nothing but astely rake in
college, you know, as a freshman,

440
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:07.400
went two eighty four, three forty
three, five thirty one in the

441
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.920
ACC which is not a poverty conference, Like they're pretty good, and then

442
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.200
stepped it up for a one thousand
and sixty one ops in his sophomore year,

443
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.880
and then a one thousand, one
hundred and eighty seven OPS in his

444
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:27.000
junior year, which included twenty homers. Like that's a pretty good hitter,

445
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.920
you know, nineteen percent strikeout rate, ten percent walk rate. So maybe

446
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.599
the approach isn't like as pristine as
some, but I was like, this

447
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.039
guy is going to hit for power. He's a really interesting prospect, and

448
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.200
like I think a lot of the
knock on him was can he really play

449
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.640
third base in the pros? Like
if this is a right handed hitting first

450
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.000
baseman, like then it's less interesting
and that might be part of why he

451
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:55.599
felt. But his debut was interesting
in it he hit zero homers. This

452
00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:02.839
guy appearances yeah, and like fifty
homers in his college career and then didn't

453
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:08.000
hit a homer over almost two hundred
plate appearances in his debut. He still

454
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:13.200
hit well, like, struck out
at most twenty percent of the time,

455
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.720
was walking ten percent of the time, again very similar to his college career.

456
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:22.240
Was still hitting for power, like
what did he have sixteen doubles,

457
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.440
four triples, you know, showing
off a little bit of speed, like

458
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.839
and watching him, it seemed like
he, I don't know, was maybe

459
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.640
just hitting the ball on the ground
a little too much, or was like

460
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:37.799
trying to hit line drives too much
and wasn't hitting fly balls. But I

461
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.119
thought that power was still there,
and so he's one that I thought like

462
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:47.519
despite pedigree and seemed like visual evaluation
was that he was going to be a

463
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.400
real power hitter. He is going
to fly under the radar a bit,

464
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:53.759
So he's one just I wanted to
highlight. And then the other thing that

465
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.119
we talked about a bit is like
I think the NATS system is poop.

466
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.440
It's really bad. So he was
like the only guy that I was like,

467
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.240
Okay, I'm actually interested in him, and I don't think he's quite

468
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.000
getting the love that maybe maybe he
deserves, so it'll be interesting to see

469
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.519
him. I'm guessing he's starting next
year at Double A. That's where he

470
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:19.320
ended last year and again had a
really solid line, just wasn't hitting for

471
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.360
power. Again, super small sample
at Double A, but I think that's

472
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.679
where he starts next year, and
I wouldn't be surprised if he turns in

473
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:31.480
a twenty homer season next year and
with decent contact and decent average. So

474
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:37.199
yeah, I'm interested, and I
think we're talking about like kind of a

475
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.159
mid first round talent in the eyes
of many heading into the draft, and

476
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:44.360
like, you know, dude,
his name is Yo Handy. I'm into

477
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:49.400
it, Yo Handy Handy, all
right, Morales. Yeah, And then

478
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.199
I guess I had kind of forgotten
in the first year player draft, I

479
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.519
did take a couple of I'm sorry, excuse me. In our B side

480
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.239
hitter draft, I did take a
couple of ye first year of players,

481
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:05.519
I think second. My second hitter
choice was Trevor Werner, who I saw

482
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:09.280
he has gotten up to about ten
percent ban Track's roster percentage, which is

483
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.320
still I think fairly low. And
you know, going off of what we

484
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.800
had talked about earlier, this is
a guy that this is hard for me.

485
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.039
I mean, he I know it
was a ball, and I know

486
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.760
I didn't notice Matt in that league. There were a lot of college hitters

487
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:29.599
that came into that league and just
scorched the ball, which does make me

488
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:34.000
question is there maybe a lesser quality
of pitching in that league down the stretch

489
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.559
of the season. But I liked
Warner enough. I liked the look of

490
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.840
him, I like what he did
that I'm having a hard time keeping him

491
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.119
off the top of my domestic bat
list here, Like, I don't think

492
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:50.639
it's crazy to bypass a lot of
prettier names, and I don't know,

493
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.480
pop him in the top fifteen.
That's the problem. I'm right there with

494
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.800
you, like that. Werner is
a guy that I mentioned to you in

495
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:04.239
this auction that I did this offseason
thirty team Super Deep Roasters, Super Late.

496
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.840
Nobody else was interested in him,
and I was like, gimme Trevor

497
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.679
Warner, especially in that format where
power is really really rewarded. He's a

498
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.960
guy that's going to hit for power. You know. He slugged almost seven

499
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:21.639
over seven hundred, I guess in
his debut in the Complex and a ball

500
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.519
combined. I'm pretty sure it was
real. Like he's hitting oppo tanks that

501
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:30.039
are just laser line drives, so
like sure, I feel like a little

502
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:36.199
soft. I feel like everything he
hit was was really hard. Yeah.

503
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.559
I mean he's got that kind of
swing, like he is big was he

504
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.119
like six' four kind of lean
looking, but you see just he keeps

505
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.199
his arms way away from his body
as he's swinging. He's getting all of

506
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.000
that leverage and made enough contact.
I mean the strikeout rate was maybe a

507
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.599
touch high, especially at the Complex
and that super small sample, but yeah,

508
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:02.519
like for a seven one hundred slug
strikeout thirty percent of the time,

509
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.800
I don't care. He's one you
want to see more of, right,

510
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.840
a college guy just at a ball. I think we talked about this with

511
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.360
respect to a couple of other guys
that we were like, oh, this

512
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:15.280
might be a pretty interesting hitter,
but why was why weren't they challenged at

513
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.360
a higher level? But yeah,
I was going to start at High A

514
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.519
next year and I'm super into it
too. I was also a good hitter.

515
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.519
I was also noticing, as I
think it's three years later, but

516
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.239
I think there is still some I
don't know, transition or maybe a shift

517
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.519
in thinking about this that maybe hasn't
totally taken place. But like a lot

518
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.599
of these college guys that were in
a ball, there was still pretty much

519
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:45.320
league average age, and I kind
of feel like maybe that wasn't the case

520
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:49.519
in this league, but I kind
of feel like a ball is pretty equivalent

521
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:55.840
to your better college conference pitching.
I was just something that much. I

522
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.679
was reading something about this recently,
and I think that there is some truth

523
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:07.119
to that. It's variable though,
right like looking at the weekend starters for

524
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.840
sure, like in the SEC or
your Friday night guys on a given you

525
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.719
in the ACC or in the pack, like, there are gonna be some

526
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:19.360
dudes that are like those are double
A pitchers easily. Right now, you

527
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.360
could argue that some oftimes it's those
are guys who belong in the major leagues,

528
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.400
so that depends. But then you
also face a lot of guys that

529
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.800
are like this guy's gonna go on
to be an accountant and is not a

530
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.920
pro prospect at all, especially in
midweek or a Sunday game, so that

531
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.360
it's just pretty variable. So like
we always used to say, you're super

532
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.920
elite college pitchers that come into pro
ball and get their tits with oh for

533
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.679
sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's kind of fairly appropriate

534
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.440
competition for these guys in their draft
year to come into a ball I don't

535
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.800
think they're bulling too often. I
mean, you know, there's plenty plenty

536
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.880
of guys who can't do that.
Chase Davis, like we talked about,

537
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.599
you know, yeah, definitely,
definitely, And this is no doubt a

538
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:07.679
hot streak, right, Like,
he's not a four hundred babeb guy and

539
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:12.800
he babeb to what like four thirty
on the season this year, Like that's

540
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.760
not that's not him. And I
mean this is if this is really him

541
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.880
when he showed I mean we just
this is the greatest b side of all

542
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:24.239
time, right yeah, right,
And he's he's not a thirty percent home

543
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.599
run to fly ball guy. But
I think what this is saying is like

544
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:35.119
you look at this really great debut
and you look at his solid college pedigree,

545
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.280
and you're like, I'm going to
round up a little bit on this

546
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:42.280
bat, and so for your leagues, that really reward power. I'm way

547
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.519
more interested in Werner than I am. I think some of the other guys

548
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.519
will we'll talk a little bit about, but think there's real reasons why,

549
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.000
especially if you know your format well, you should rocket someone like Werner way

550
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:57.519
up your board and wherever your cutoff
is where you're just like, Okay,

551
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.760
now this is really opened up.
That's why I'm sick of him. That's

552
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.800
where I'm going to take a stab
at him. And then where you slot

553
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:09.519
him in in this Oh I don't
where I think I got him like twelve

554
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:15.280
twelve, Yeah, there you go. Yeah, but that's not like do

555
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:22.440
I Yeah, I mean, like
I said, this is it's a blob

556
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:29.039
however you want. But ever said, it's definitely above Werner for me,

557
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.440
just for the for the record,
but Werner I'm very excited about. Okay,

558
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:37.639
do we want to talk about Emerson? Here's here's my here's my thing

559
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.840
with Emerson. We're not hating them, the pretty boys and this, okay,

560
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.760
all right, all right, guys
that we like. I was just

561
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.639
I was just giving you our time, because that's a take. Also in

562
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.639
our B side hit or draft,
I took Ethan O'Donnell, who's a left

563
00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.079
handed hitter from Virginia who I still
want to see more. I know he

564
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.039
didn't fare too well against lefties,
and that might be kind of a thing,

565
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.000
but I think he's a true center
field prospect for them. I just

566
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.719
really liked the look. There wasn't
a lot to see, but I just

567
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.880
really liked pretty much every at bat
that I saw from him. I just

568
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.519
thought he was very much in control, and I liked his stroke. I

569
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:23.119
got him sitting probably I don't know, like thirty seven somewhere in there on

570
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:29.199
the hitter list for yeah, like
I don't know, Chase Davis, I

571
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.760
don't know. I'd maybe take a
swing on O'Donnell over Chase Davis. That

572
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.719
depends on a lot. And you
convinced me. You convinced me on o'donnald.

573
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.639
I took a swing on him in
that really deep Diynasay leaguehere, I

574
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.320
ran out of money and just was
trying to take prospects that nobody else had

575
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.320
ever heard of. And so I
grabbed a share of o'donnald On. That

576
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.480
way, maybe maybe he can be
the next Virginia guy who's a better pro

577
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.719
than than amateur. That's a real
thing, you know. One thing that

578
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:59.719
I think it's wake right, that
that's a place where you should round down

579
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.199
on their pitchers because they do a
really great job of optimizing at wake,

580
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.239
and then there is in a lot
more projection on the vine. And Virginia

581
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:13.000
is the opposite for hitters. Like
you see a Virginia hitter and they go

582
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.920
into pro ball, like you might
round up, because Virginia is a terrible

583
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.840
place to coach for hitters because they
just don't tell their hitters how to be

584
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.840
good pros. And then the last
bat that I had taken then I got

585
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.360
sitting in about the same range,
and that was a guy Charles Macado.

586
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.840
Mac Yeah, I don't know,
dude, you think that's fair. I

587
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.679
was just curious where you might slot
him or be thinking about him. I

588
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:44.519
like it. I actually really like
slotting him near Geno Groover, which you

589
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.679
have in a really similar range.
I think that they have a chance to

590
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:54.000
be really similar kinds of players.
They're both big, physical, strong hitters

591
00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.800
who were you know, like Groover
wasn't where do you go to school?

592
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:05.159
Again? Like, uh oh,
what's Virginia Tech? Groover? I can't

593
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.320
remember where he went, but I
don't think it was like a SEC power

594
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:13.880
school. And McAdoo was a mid
major guy NC State, that's right,

595
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.880
acc Yeah, So I those are
like good college performers, but both I

596
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:25.559
think have some similarities. Mcadow had
an insane start to his his pro career.

597
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.239
That's not the guy that he is. And I do think there's some

598
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.360
funk to his swing. I think
when we talked about him before, I

599
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.000
comped it a little bit to Marcelo
Zuno, like he steps in the bucket

600
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:42.039
a little bit, his hands maybe
stay inside the ball a little bit longer

601
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.519
than you want, so maybe there's
like a little bit of side spin even

602
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.679
though it looks like he's smoking the
ball. So I think there may be

603
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:52.159
your crackization. Yeah, Well,
one difference, Matt was Macadow hit five

604
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.920
home runs in the Florida State League. Well, Groover hit one in the

605
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.480
Northwest League. Yeah, and I
saw a Groover. I've one of the

606
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:05.320
games that I saw him, he
hit a laser off the left center gap,

607
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:10.320
like really well struck backspun ball,
he moved pretty well. I think

608
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:16.119
that they just have some swing and
body similarities that make me feel like,

609
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:20.800
yeah, they're they're sort of in
that bucket together of like there might be

610
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.159
more here. Because Grewer was like
a fourth rounder or third rounder or something,

611
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.719
Andover was a second rounder. He
was the second rounder, and then

612
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.960
McAdoo was like eighth round. No, so Groover was second round he got

613
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:39.719
one point eight mil and mcado was
thirteenth round and he got one hundred and

614
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:45.239
thirteen. Yeah, so I mean, like, I think that McAdoo has

615
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.920
a lot of the same tools and
skills as Groover, and so they're sort

616
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.639
of similar to me. But again, like McAdoo is going to be cheaper

617
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:57.039
to draft, so like you miss
you like Groover, it's a good fit

618
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.920
for your league, Like, Okay, take McAdoo thirty later or whatever.

619
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.880
So I'm a big fan of mcdew. I really want to see him succeed

620
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:08.519
and continue to succeed because his debut
was so fun and as a guy that

621
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:14.599
I think has some real skills that
it's fun to see those mid major guys

622
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.159
break out. Agreed, all right, And then I had one more that

623
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.119
I wanted to touch on before we
dive a little bit deeper. And that's

624
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:29.039
another guy that you've got ranked pretty
highly. But he's another one that popped

625
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.559
for me looking at the Baltimore system, which is just an embarrassment of riches,

626
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:40.559
but it's a Mac Horvaff And Horrvaf's
a guy that you ranked really highly,

627
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.559
and I am right there with you. He was a just missed for

628
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.480
me in our B side hitters draft. I think if we've gone to ten,

629
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.639
he might have been my next pick. I think he was a second

630
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:59.480
rounder as well out of YEP.
And this is the kind of guy that

631
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:01.840
his approach. Oh, I think
this is who I was looking at when

632
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.760
I was talking about someone with a
really low line drive rate. You can

633
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:12.760
double check me on this, but
Horvath is the kind of like modern three

634
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:17.360
true outcomes hitter. Like he walks
a crap ton. He does strike out

635
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.480
some of it because he's pretty passive
at the plate, but when he swings,

636
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.159
he swings really frickin' hard and he
pulls the shit out of the ball.

637
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.760
So I think his fly ball rate
was like in the sixties at one

638
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.679
of the levels this year. Let
me pull it up because his plate approach

639
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:40.360
is like an extreme version of what
you want to see and he brings patience,

640
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.079
power and speed to this. And
I think he's one of these guys

641
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:52.199
that, like is, has a
questionable home on defense. Might not be

642
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.000
like they list him as a second
baseman, third baseman, but he might

643
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:01.400
shift to the outfield outfielder. It's
just he's not great on defense, is

644
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:07.519
what I can gather. But yeah, he pulls the ball sixty percent of

645
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.440
the time in HIA. He didn't
hit a line drive, but he hit

646
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:15.920
seventy percent fly balls, so he
was just yanking the ball and putting him

647
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.280
out and it was good for a
one to and D four WRC plus.

648
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.840
Again, small samples, but I
watched every game that this guy was in

649
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:29.719
HIA, and he looked so good. At the play he I think was

650
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.960
there with Basaio at the same time, and watching the two of them hit

651
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:37.880
back to back, it was like, these guys are actual big league hitters,

652
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:44.079
and everybody else around them looks like
college hitters or minor leaguers. And

653
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:49.400
I was so taken by by this
guy. I think mac Krvath like he

654
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.079
had a crazy debut. I'm really
excited to see him next year. But

655
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.880
this is the kind of guy that
I think in that Emmanuel Rodriguez kind of

656
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:01.360
vein where he's going to be extra
patient, gonna absolutely torch the ball when

657
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.480
he swings, and has enough speed
to do damage on the bases that this

658
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.880
this could be one of my steals
of the draft. Like I'm I'm as

659
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:13.920
excited abou him as anybody. I
like it. Horvath was I don't know,

660
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:20.400
a rare dozen two dozen college hitters
that I kind of tracked and followed

661
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.679
this last season. I was.
I wasn't super pumped he guy drafted by

662
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:28.880
the Orioles, but it was nice
to see his pro debut go pretty well.

663
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.519
I feel like Horbat and like the
athleticism of him, But I feel

664
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:37.400
like Horbath is the incarnate of how
I used to hit playing video games.

665
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:44.960
Yeah yeah, wait for my pitch
and then I'm just like airing the joystick

666
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:50.760
off of the controller, trying to
hit that very far. Yeah, and

667
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.559
you know he's second rounder, so
like he got that's decent. I wonder

668
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.760
if he was a second rounder largely
because he was pretty bad in the Cape

669
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:05.400
junior summer or his sophomore summer,
rather like he barely played. No.

670
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:12.119
Homer's kind of a bad triple slash. Maybe this is maybe this is a

671
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.760
poor on my part, but in
my mind, if a team takes a

672
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.400
player in the second round, they
most likely had a first round grade on

673
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.480
that player. Oh, definitely,
yes, Yeah, And to your point

674
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:28.440
though, like this is a tough
system to be a player in, and

675
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:34.960
oh will seem intent on keeping all
of their prospects blockage be damned. You

676
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.360
know, if I were GMing that
team, like I definitely would have traded

677
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.599
from some of their depth to get
some actual pitchers in there. But yeah,

678
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:46.960
they have so many hitters that are
so good, and Horvath is right

679
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:51.480
up there with him, Like,
I don't think it's crazy to prefer him

680
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:57.440
to someone like Norby right now.
Norby's a back end top one hundred guy

681
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.679
for a lot of people, and
I I don't think he has the upside

682
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:06.599
in fantasy that Horvath does. And
yeah, so he's someone to be I

683
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:13.719
think really excited about. Yeah,
well we've been talking about college hitters.

684
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.400
If you don't mind, I just
want to talk about two prep bads that

685
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:22.280
I'm shoving up my list please that
I am like I want. I want

686
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:27.639
these two guys in every draft that
I'm in. One is probably a bit

687
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.679
of pretty boy territory. But like, I think he's prettier than people think.

688
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:36.519
And that's uh, Kevin McGonagall.
I don't know what for me,

689
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:42.800
there isn't like everything that I want
in a hitter like this. This kid

690
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.599
is kind of exuding and has the
look of other than he's not the biggest

691
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:52.440
guy around, and people for my
little man thing that this guy is like

692
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:58.400
tiny? How tiny is he Isn't
he like five seven? He's listed at

693
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:00.960
five to ten? I know,
but it's isn't that like I had seen

694
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:06.280
some other reports that he was like
that the five to ten was with spikes

695
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:12.239
and his hat on. Well you're
gonna play with those, huh. But

696
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.239
I don't know. I don't know
how much you've seen that. But as

697
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:21.280
far as like mechanical stuff that I
know about and technique, like McGonagall looks

698
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:25.440
like perfect to me from the left
side, and I love his attitude about

699
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.760
hitting sea strike, hit strike.
And yet this is a guy who did

700
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.440
I think he walked as much as
he struck out in his fifteen A ball

701
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.199
games this year. He did hit
a home run or he did had a

702
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:43.320
great walk to strike at rate.
Okay, did he did he walk more

703
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:46.639
than he struck out? Way more? Yeah, but he's still but he's

704
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.679
still an aggressive hitter. He likens
his game and his swing to Chase Utley.

705
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.960
Chase Utley was one of my all
time favorite Fantasy baseball players. I

706
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.960
think the defense is fine. I
know, oh, I always forget what

707
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.920
twenty it was. But one of
the one of the BA guys is a

708
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:06.519
big fan. He probably ends up
at second base, but I think he

709
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.920
can play shortstop at a high level. And I'm just I'm all in.

710
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:14.639
So he's smaller, and he might
not be Aaron Judge home run wise,

711
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.159
but I think this is the guy. He is unbelievably polished for an eighteen

712
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.679
year old hitter. He's gonna hit. It's not gonna be a wasted pick.

713
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:23.559
I don't think. I mean,
you never know, but I just

714
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:28.960
feel so. I don't feel I
don't think I've ever felt as safe with

715
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:32.480
a prep hitter as I do trying
to be aggressive with McGonagall and I see

716
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:36.440
folks have him in like the thirties
and forties, like, this is a

717
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.840
top ten bat for me this first
year player draft season. That's bold and

718
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:45.400
I like it. I think the
knock that I've seen is that his exit

719
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:51.960
filo's are really low. So well, I just saw I just saw a

720
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:57.159
tweet wherever he's working out, he
posted like one hundred and six points something

721
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:00.079
exit velocity. He's eighteen years old, and what do you say they're going

722
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:04.960
to add a few more. I
don't know if that's the one thing.

723
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.960
If that's the one knock, I'll
take it. I'll take that right now.

724
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.320
Yeah, and listen, I'm with
you. Like guys succeed because I

725
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.480
think what I had seen is that
his ninety effects it. Vili was like

726
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:21.440
down at one O two or something. But as we've talked about, there

727
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.199
are guys that do succeed with that
profile, especially when they exude these kinds

728
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.079
of traits where they don't strike out, they walk, they hit line drives

729
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:35.079
and bring value on the bases,
like your Stephen Kwan's, your salf Relicks,

730
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.960
your Luis Rises, like those guys, especially depending on your league format,

731
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:44.480
might be some of the better players
in your League. And if McGonagle

732
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:50.440
can do that and you project even
a couple miles per hour and he optimizes

733
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.519
his launch angles and all of that, who cares right, Like, yep,

734
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:58.679
that's Alex Bregman, That's yep,
Stephen Kwan. Like those guys can

735
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.159
be fantasy stars. So he's someone
that I'm really interested too. I watched

736
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:07.440
a good bit of him and think
he does have a really nice swing.

737
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:12.679
He does seem undersize to me,
but some of that, like also kind

738
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.840
of doesn't matter if you perform,
Like I've taken a bunch of these guys

739
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:21.639
that look small and are underrated,
I think because of their size or physique,

740
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.079
and I think that that pales in
comparison to your actual performance. And

741
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:30.920
sometimes we go back to looking for
fabio when we should care about like can

742
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:36.000
he hit? And I think McGonagall
can hit. And I think he was

743
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.920
very much an integral part of the
Tigers decision making with their top five pick

744
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:45.440
there taking Max Clark and then McGonagall
in the second round getting the money right

745
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:47.679
to make that happen. Yeah,
but I'm in. I mean, there's

746
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.559
especially first year player draft stuff like
I don't know, it seems like every

747
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.599
year, they'll be like three or
four hitters. I'm like, just Kylee

748
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:00.360
jam Prep whatever. I'm like,
Okay, I'll commit to this. I

749
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:04.800
will, I will marry this,
this uh this prospecting idea here, and

750
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.599
like, I'm not I'm gonna get
those guys if I can. You know,

751
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.440
obviously, if they're the top four
guys in the draft, you can't

752
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:14.679
do that. But uh, yep, I'm gonna get him. And then

753
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:19.000
the other prep bat that I wanted
to mention, and I admit this is

754
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.880
this is a fairly new discovery and
affinity for me. And I'm not even

755
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:30.480
sure what his name is. But
the Phillies took DJ or is it ta

756
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:36.400
Von Walton? I see it listen, is what I've said. Sorry,

757
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:43.039
it's I see it listen as Shawn
and also TJ J A y y.

758
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:47.920
But DJ Walton Prep from IMG Academy
down in Florida, who's young for the

759
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:53.360
draft. I think the Phillies feel
like they got an absolute steal here and

760
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:59.719
are thrilled that they signed him away
from guess what university? Met where Miami

761
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:04.440
Olo guys. I know, right, you look at this, look at

762
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.000
this happening, But I don't know. I don't know if you've seen him

763
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:12.480
that, but he is. This
was a fun poll. He is a

764
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:16.320
physical specimen. Like if you you
took some of his videos, put like

765
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:22.840
a Dominican flag and some some palm
trees behind him. Weeded those out there

766
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.880
when he was seventeen eighteen years old. I think Dynasty owners would be all

767
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:30.480
over him right now. Love his
right handed swing. Like I said,

768
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:35.400
a physical specimen. I'd like to
pit eighteen year old Walton versus eighteen year

769
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:42.679
old Dominga's Jayson Dimingez. That kind
of solid build, except Walton's much bigger.

770
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.599
You didn't chop up his gifts though, I didn't know, because there's

771
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:51.400
nothing from full season to see.
He only got in like five complex games

772
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:55.760
this year. But you want to
talk all fields, hitter and backspin to

773
00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:01.039
all fields, the right kind of
spin, full line drive, he can

774
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:06.320
run. I gotta imagine. I
don't know, a guy's eighteen and is

775
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:12.480
sort of physically mature as he is. Maybe he slows down, but this

776
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:16.360
power speed potential here, I think
there's if he would have went to school,

777
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:21.239
I mean, we could easily been
talking about a much higher draft pick.

778
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:28.400
But I've heard nothing but high praise
and I'm in, let's go.

779
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.599
As soon as you feel like all
your responsible bets are are made or not

780
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:38.000
available. That's when I'm like,
top five prep bat for me in this

781
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:43.920
Verson that's so bold and I so
love it. Why not you take a

782
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.239
shot here? I don't know like
Emerson, I think I I think I'd

783
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:53.440
take a shot on Walton over Emerson, just because I think the athleticism,

784
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:59.920
the physicality and what he's a grown
man. Emerson's like em He's like win

785
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:07.400
Man. It's like this a little
wimp. Oh, I love I love

786
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:15.760
it. That's so good. Yeah, the guy with well above average MLB

787
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:22.000
exit velos as an eighteen year old
and just scorching in a ball like your

788
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:27.519
boy man, though he may be
struck out thirty five percent of the time

789
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:32.840
in his five games. I'm just
saying, what you slug? What was

790
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:37.519
this? What was this? WRC
plus his babbit was seven hundred, so

791
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:46.079
like his babbit was seven hundred and
he still only hit three eighty five.

792
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:50.840
Like that doesn't even seem like it
should make sense. And you're gonna your

793
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:54.079
babit is gonna be seven hundred when
everything you're hitting is off the wall if

794
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.880
you hit it. Oh, that
is just such a wild take. Listen,

795
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:02.159
Like, I'm not gonna say for
the cult Emerson slander that guy is

796
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:06.840
I got him right next to each
other. I got him right next to

797
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:12.760
each other. Yeah, you have
lots of the head Oh my goodness.

798
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.880
Who whoah. Yeah. Yeah,
Like I know, I know that we're

799
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.840
we're having some fun here and stuff
too. But like, talk to some

800
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:24.079
Phillies guys about Walton. I'm not
just just making stuff up here that that's

801
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:29.599
but obviously they're biased. They drafted
him. I think Walton is very,

802
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:35.159
very overlooked here just because and here's
why too. He didn't doesn't have a

803
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.760
long track record because he had injuries
and did not get to participate in a

804
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.519
lot of the showcases. And I
think most folks thought it was a for

805
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.320
sure thing that he was going to
college. But I don't think they really

806
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:50.960
messed with him too much. The
Phillies did well. I'm definitely interested in

807
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:57.320
Walton, but I think it is
flat out bonkers to not respect what Emerson

808
00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:02.280
did. So at the same level, person outslugged him, struck out half

809
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:08.360
as much and then went on to
a ball and was like the best hitter

810
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:13.679
in that league for the month that
he was there, the three weeks that

811
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:16.679
he was there. Okay, maybe
I'm putting too much into the physical stuff,

812
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:22.239
but it's like Bo Jackson walks into
the room and like, I don't

813
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:27.199
know who's how tall is Emerson?
Two? I think, oh is that

814
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.599
tall? I don't know? And
then like Ryan Samberg walk into the room,

815
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.519
like who are going to be more
impressed with? Yeah? But I

816
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:37.519
mean like, are you impressed with
Joe Adell? Like are you are you

817
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:45.039
impressed with? Right? Like Joe
Adell looks like an absolute athletic but hard,

818
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:49.920
but he strikes out all the time. So I'm just saying, like

819
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:55.079
the tools that Emerson has showed are
better than what I'll take, really,

820
01:00:55.119 --> 01:01:00.480
any of the high school guys have
showed. I'll take. I'll take Holton's

821
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:07.719
mechanics and technique and his swinging over
Emerson all day. I do not agree

822
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.960
with that, but I think it's
at the costs. Like you're gonna be

823
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:15.039
able to get Walton anywhere with a
first round pick, probably a second round

824
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:19.840
pick, maybe a third round pick, and that's great. Like I'm gonna

825
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.360
get zero shares of Emerson, which
is a bummer because I do really like

826
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.480
him. I like Emerson. You
can't argue with what he's done. There's

827
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.519
a free there's freaking Walton. We
like freaks. What we say laughing at

828
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:35.599
me about Walton? Dude, I'm
excited. I'm excited about Walton. I'm

829
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:40.719
laughing at you at Emerson, like
the guy is legit, and you're like,

830
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:46.039
poo, I'm not poom. I
value him very highly. I just

831
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:50.800
don't know what's the what's the major
league upside? You think, like,

832
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.880
what's what's the what's the staff?
Emerson? Yeah, what do you think?

833
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:00.159
I mean? I know that's we're
talking about. The high schooler had

834
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:04.159
a little taste of pro ball.
And I know that's hard proposition. You

835
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:08.480
know, anyone out there that might
think that I'm off my rocker being ridiculous

836
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:14.719
about this, you got to understand
that some of these some of these prep

837
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:20.360
moves that teams make trying to be
smart, trying to take gambles on guys

838
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:24.239
who these high school kids that may
very well just be one year away from

839
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:30.599
being a much higher sought after draft
selection. Right, Socks did that with

840
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:36.440
walk Ow. That's very much I
think was the Phillies mindset here. Of

841
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:40.159
course I could look like a fool, but I mean Elijah Green was a

842
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:45.280
top five pick, and if you
weren't valuing him highly in first year player

843
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:49.880
drafts, you were ridiculous. Same
same high school. By the way,

844
01:02:50.599 --> 01:03:00.639
Ah yeah, you know Khalil Watson, like so like you missed concern.

845
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:07.480
It can easily sound as ludacrifs or
as wild. In my opinion, here's

846
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:19.239
my irresponsible comp for Emerson. I
think he can be a better version than

847
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:24.800
Gunner Henderson. Like, I think
the exit velos are within spitting distance considering

848
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:30.199
he's eighteen for another like six months
or something, because I think his NINETIETHH

849
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:35.360
was like at one oh six or
something. One of yeah, I think

850
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.679
that's what BA report was like one
oh six, So as an eighteen year

851
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:45.599
old, call it two to three
to be conservative off of that. Henderson

852
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:51.320
was in twenty twenty two in his
you know, one hundred plate appearances or

853
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:58.280
whatever was a one oh seven,
So like he's one mile hour per off

854
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:05.840
on that and at a ball while
being two years younger than Henderson was at

855
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:11.480
the same level, he was had
way more walks, way fewer strikeouts,

856
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:15.639
hit for more power you know,
more slug anyway. But so, I

857
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:25.159
mean I think that there's Emerson is
number one overall prospect material three years,

858
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.719
Yeah, in two years, yeah, fair enough. I don't disagree.

859
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:35.199
I think he's going to go to
Everett and mash there like that's a hitter's

860
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:40.480
park. I think it maybe his
inflated Cole Young and Harry Ford's value just

861
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.559
a little bit and be locklier a
little bit too. I was thinking about

862
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:47.039
that as going through Clegg's right up
of the Mariness system that Beck had posted

863
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:53.639
about how Ford's home road splits and
Everett were pretty pronounced. So I think

864
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:58.119
Emerson's going to go there and just
demolish the ball and might have that kind

865
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.400
of helium where he's a top ten
prospect by the end the next year,

866
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:04.480
and if he keeps performing at double
A, like he could enter whatever that

867
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:08.679
is twenty twenty six is like the
number one overall prospects. I think he

868
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:12.599
is that kind of upside Okay,
yeah, yeah, you know maybe maybe

869
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:17.280
uh you know, could very well
be for me a disconnect between video and

870
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:23.000
you know, the good data,
because video he doesn't. I don't know.

871
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.559
I wouldn't have thunk that he hit
the ball as hard as he does.

872
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.800
And I think that's because he has
a really efficient, good swam whereas

873
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:34.239
like some of the guys like you
know, my boy JDP host way to

874
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:41.639
Paula. He swings and makes contact
really well. He has a strong contact

875
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:45.360
skill, but his swing sucks because
he isn't getting to the power that he

876
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:48.719
should be able to because of the
direction of his swing. And I think

877
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:54.159
Emerson, well, you know that's
yeah, I think better. I think

878
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:58.360
that's it's also a testament to man, especially at that at that age,

879
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:02.760
how quickly some things can change,
because I don't know, if you watched

880
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:11.079
Emerson's National Showcase batting practice twenty twenty
two, I was not impressed. Yeah,

881
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:15.800
not just from mechanical standpoint, balance
standpoint stuff like that. Like I

882
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.800
was like, oh, okay,
players can improve, and players can be

883
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:24.639
coached, then players can get better, especially when you're eighteen years old.

884
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:30.320
Yeah, and you know Emerson's also
six months younger than Walton, so yeah,

885
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:36.360
no factor that in h to level
nay age to level level. Well,

886
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:43.119
Walton would kick Emerson's ass in a
fight. I know that probably true.

887
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:48.079
One of the ones that I wanted
to touch on was for Enrique Bradfield

888
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:54.400
Junior. I think he's one again, another Baltimore guy, maybe round down

889
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.079
a bit, but I think he's
one to really push up in your roto

890
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:01.360
leagues and your categories leagues were steel
matter, yeah, because he does so

891
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:05.920
much. A format dependent guy,
yes, definitely, He's not a guy

892
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:13.000
that I'm taking in my points leagues
or power focus leagues because he's off my

893
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:17.000
board for those leagues. But yeah, but for your categories dynasty leagues,

894
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:24.199
this is I think he might be
Estuary Ruiz, but actually a good hitter

895
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:28.840
like like as in like he's gonna
have really high contact rates. I think

896
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:32.119
get on base more than Ruiz does, which might lead to even more steals.

897
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:36.719
Like he's a very good base stealer, and his contact skills seem legit.

898
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:42.159
So Bradfield's one that I think is
worth again knowing your league, knowing

899
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:47.280
whether that's useful, and valuing him
accordingly. I think taking Bradfield ahead of

900
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:53.760
like Werner Kishol Horvath like in your
rotal leagues, like he could be a

901
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:58.639
true difference maker in those degree I
agree for sure. One guy I wanted

902
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:03.639
to touch on just mentioned Luke keishel
Man, the video. I came away

903
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:08.960
pretty impressed with him. He's one
that I think I am valuing much more

904
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:14.599
than the consensus, especially in the
Twin System. I'm rounding up with hitters

905
01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.079
in the Twin System. Why is
that because I think they maximize I think

906
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:25.359
they maximize hard contact and home runs
well with their hitters. But before I

907
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.119
watched them, I was like,
Okay, they took this guy in from

908
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.279
Arizona State, took him in the
second round. I kind of felt like,

909
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:33.960
I don't know, the reputation was
like, you know, potential,

910
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:38.840
nice utility type player or whatever,
but I just found him to be more

911
01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.680
dangerous hitter or potentially a more dangerous
hitter, I know, grading out wise,

912
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.359
he's getting like fifties across the board, and like, I'm I kind

913
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:47.239
of want to bump that up.
Over one hundred and forty played appearances,

914
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:51.439
he hit in or was he in
A and Hi A hit three home runs,

915
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:56.960
goal eleven bases. He's more athletic
than I thought too. Like it's

916
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.159
his frame too. You might not
necessarily think it because he's kind of he's

917
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.720
kind of like fin up top,
but like thicker in the bottom. But

918
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:09.880
he slash two eighty eight four,
fourteen, four seventy seven, walked fourteen

919
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.720
percent of the time, struck out
eighteen percent of the time, good for

920
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.800
a one forty five WRC plus hits. The ball in the air had a

921
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.960
nice clip pulls in. It's an
opposite field, just a lot of nice,

922
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:23.840
good looking strokes, I thought,
And like I said with the Twins,

923
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:29.000
I think well, I think consensus
he's he's kind of buried. I

924
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:33.000
think Clegg has him sixty six.
Yeah, there's a there's not going to

925
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:36.520
be so well, that'd be like
forty hitters. There's not forty hitters.

926
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:40.960
I'd rather take a shot on than
Luke Keishael. So I watched a good

927
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.119
bit of Kishel too, and I
tend to agree. I think he's a

928
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:51.279
sneakily athletic guy and there might be
more speed there than some of the public

929
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:56.359
grades are giving him credit for.
So again, in your categories league,

930
01:09:56.359 --> 01:10:01.039
this might be a fifteen homer thirty
steals threat, which is super valuable,

931
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.880
especially considering I think his approach of
the plate is one that might lend itself

932
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:10.399
to a lot more line drives and
therefore a bit of a higher babbep as

933
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:13.960
well. So I think he sprays
the ball pretty well. I do think

934
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:18.279
the power is going to be a
little more limited, I'm not I don't

935
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:23.000
think he's going to be a big
homer threat, like fifteen is probably upside,

936
01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:28.079
but thirty steals seems pretty reasonable in
the playing time. So I liked

937
01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:30.520
him quite a bit as well.
It feels a little bit me like like

938
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:38.000
a showbal but with like an umbrella
and some nice condiments. Yeah. Yeah,

939
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:42.640
my notes when I reviewed the Twins
system, I said that he's being

940
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.560
taken too low in FYPS, and
I think that's true. I'm not sure

941
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:50.800
I with stuff him quite as high
as you, just given that it might

942
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:58.840
be like a sort of limited power
impact. And yeah, I'm not sure

943
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.720
where the speed is going to play
totally, but I like him quite a

944
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:03.920
bit. That's fair, that's fair. Yeah, there's a like that's a

945
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:08.439
big chunk of players that are all
pretty much the same sort of value to

946
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:11.119
me. But yeah, yeah,
and for me, he's probably in that

947
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:16.359
like late twenties range, Like I
think that's where I start bucketing, because

948
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:21.159
I think the top twenty or so
again, format dependent, are you talking

949
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:26.199
just are you talking just top twenty
hitters or top hitters. Yeah, yeah,

950
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:30.199
so so like and I think most
of the best picks are hitters in

951
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:31.760
this draft, Like it's a it's
a pretty deep draft, but I think

952
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:35.479
he's, like, yeah, in
that the beginning of that pretty large chunk

953
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:40.399
of hitters after sort of the top. Who else you want to touch on?

954
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.760
I know we've talked about Jonathan Long
before. Yeah, I want to

955
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:46.399
talk about Jonathan Long. Unfortunately he's
a Cub, so this is a little

956
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.399
difficult. But man, I don't
know. I don't know if you watched

957
01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:55.520
any of Long, but I did
hard to not be impressed at least to

958
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:59.119
some degree. Yeah, so Long. He was a ninth round pick out

959
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:01.720
of Long Beach, eight corner infielder. I think he played more third base

960
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:05.000
than first base. Again, he
was in he was in this league here

961
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:09.399
where a lot of guys kind of
walked in after college and hit a lot

962
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:13.600
of home runs. And it's not
a home run atmosphere at least Myrtle Beach

963
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:16.279
isn't. One hundred and two played
appearances. He hit seven home runs,

964
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:20.960
walked fourteen percent of the time,
struck out eighteen percent of the time two

965
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:27.119
seventy four four h two, five
seventy one two ninety eight. ISO won

966
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:31.479
sixty four WRC plus pulled the ball
sixty two percent of the time swinging strike,

967
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:35.319
right around thirteen percent per Fangrass.
I cut up that video that I

968
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:39.960
shared with you, and you notice
who he was taking the yard in that?

969
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:44.800
Yeah, a couple of our guys. Yeah, yeah, he got.

970
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:48.680
He got quite a few of our
B side pitchers here, Andrew Taylor,

971
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.560
he got. It looked like I
think on a breaking ball, Trey

972
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:57.840
Don Browski, my guy, Felix
Aronde, and a couple other relievers that

973
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:03.079
were televising on here. Who's perhaps
a decent pitching prospect for the White Sox

974
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:05.640
that they drafted this year. But
yeah, I don't know, man,

975
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:12.680
interesting interesting mid round selection by the
Cubs here there, and that they had

976
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:16.640
a couple of those Shoot, what
Langford hit ten home runs? Right?

977
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:21.159
There was another first year player who
came in and hit ten home runs,

978
01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:26.479
and that was Brian Colmer. Did
you watch any of him too? There

979
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:30.520
was a lot a lot of games
where Comber and Long we're hitting home runs

980
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:36.479
at the same time. Yep.
But he put together interesting introduction. He

981
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:41.279
was the eighteenth round pick out of
Gonzaga. Like I said, he hit

982
01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:45.319
ten home runs and one hundred and
forty nine played appearances, struck out twenty

983
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:48.640
percent of the time. You know, ridiculous, ridiculous line. But he's

984
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:54.760
a bit different than me. I
do see some folks putting some value on

985
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:58.439
Comber. I don't know if if
I'm quite there, though it very much

986
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.600
seemed like maybe not the most athletic
guy, maybe not the most athletic swing,

987
01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:05.960
and a lot of his home runs
were you know, and a credit

988
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:11.000
to him, this isn't really a
knack, but it makes me question how

989
01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:13.960
the home runs total's look as he
moves up. But they were like,

990
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:19.359
you know, the line drives that
eaked over the wall. I so interesting

991
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:24.319
guy in that one. I'm going
to be too aggressive on. Yeah.

992
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:31.159
I saw him in college shit at
Gonzaga, and he was really good for

993
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:33.840
that league, Like he was one
of the best hitters in the West Coast

994
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:41.039
Conference. But I'm not sure I
see a pro like, like a major

995
01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:45.399
leaguer out of him. So I
think he's going to be an interesting one

996
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:47.439
to follow. And he did hit
the ground running. So he hit twenty

997
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:53.119
five homers this year. When you
add in his college stats too, which

998
01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:58.920
is a lot, and he hit
twenty the year before at junior college.

999
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:00.960
He was in Arizona, sy guy
that he didn't get to play, and

1000
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:04.800
so he transferred to a junior college
and then ended his career at Gonzaga.

1001
01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:11.720
But he was good. He was
far and away the Zag's best hitter last

1002
01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:15.159
year. They're more of a pitching
school these days, but he was their

1003
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:19.000
main offensive force. So definitely,
definitely one of the best hitters in the

1004
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:24.279
West Coast Conference. But I think
he's probably over his skis so far,

1005
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:28.520
but we'll see. Ultimate point.
Was a much more interested in long than

1006
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.880
I am. Calmer. Yeah,
another guy we were chatting about a little

1007
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:34.800
bit in the dugout today that I
probably kind of have in the same little

1008
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:42.600
clump is Andrew Pinkney. With the
Nationals spread across three levels, ah,

1009
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.000
well, actually four. He did
play in the complex a little bit,

1010
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:48.560
but he did get up to double
a one hundred and eighty eight played appearances.

1011
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:54.239
He hit four home runs, still
eleven bases, struck out twenty percent

1012
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:57.920
of the time, walked ten percent
of the time, only a one thirty

1013
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:05.079
six ISO on WRC, plus hit
ground balls at a high clip sixty three

1014
01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:11.720
percent. But Pinkney was a little
bit on my radar. I pay a

1015
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:15.439
little bit of attention to Alabama,
but I was impressed. I was impressed

1016
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.359
with his ability to hit hip balls
over the fence to all fields. And

1017
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:21.439
I know we were chatting today and
the dug out, like I said,

1018
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:27.760
and I didn't know this, but
he he kind of owned beans in college.

1019
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:30.399
Yeah, he did. I know. There was some talk about,

1020
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:35.479
you know, maybe he's not the
greatest breaking ball hitter at this juncture,

1021
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:40.520
but a potential interesting power speed combo. I think he was like a fourth

1022
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:44.319
round pick, so he's not He's
not a nothing in a prospect that like

1023
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:47.760
we've said, or in a in
a system like we've said that might not

1024
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:54.439
be the richest. I think Pinkney
might be a nice, laid around gamble

1025
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:58.239
in some formats and leagues. I
tend to agree. I watched a decent

1026
01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:01.560
amount of him as I was diving
into Morales. They were on a couple

1027
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.680
of the same teams this year.
He was a guy that, even though

1028
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:11.920
the performance was pretty solid, I
came away with wanting to round down because

1029
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:15.960
it is like kind of goofy swing. It might be I couldn't really put

1030
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:20.960
my finger on what it was,
but it seemed like when he was really

1031
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:26.920
getting into a ball, it wasn't
I don't know, the ball wasn't carrying

1032
01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:30.880
as much as I sort of expected. And again he hit some homers,

1033
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:33.119
and like I think is A is
a pretty good player. It seems like

1034
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:36.880
he could play the outfield pretty well. But I don't know, there was

1035
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:41.760
something about his performance that just told
me, like, uh, maybe pump

1036
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.439
the brakes just a hair on pick
me. Well, we'll see I again

1037
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:49.960
at you know, post pick fifty. Like that's a reasonable take, especially

1038
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:53.359
in a categories league. I think
he's got some speed, he's got some

1039
01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:56.399
power, he might be a real
hitter, but I don't know. He

1040
01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:00.359
was one that I wasn't enamored with. I'd say that I even noticed watching

1041
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.600
him just a little bit of him
in college too, And then this season

1042
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:09.800
is there's like there's kind of some
inconsistencies, like kind of in his step

1043
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:13.840
at the point that I don't like. Sometimes he's like a higher leg kick.

1044
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.720
Sometimes it's not much one. He
starts open, and I don't know,

1045
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:21.680
sometimes I wonder if he doesn't stay
the most balanced. But you know,

1046
01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:26.159
It's not the only hitter I've ever
seen that does stuff like that.

1047
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:30.479
Tovar was very much like that.
But yeah, I know he was just

1048
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:38.600
better than I sort of expected when
I turned on the video to two colleague

1049
01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:44.359
guys, Bryce Elridge for San Francisco. I know that he's a Jeff Ponce

1050
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:48.239
favorite. Jeff has talked about him
a couple of times at BA that he

1051
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:55.720
really thinks that Leridge is good,
and I agree. His performance was fine

1052
01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:00.319
in his colleague debut. He's,
you know, in high school drafty first

1053
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.279
base, outfield. I think he
played right field mostly, but he's also

1054
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:06.239
a pitcher, though I don't think
I saw him pitch. I'm not sure

1055
01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:11.079
if he pitched this year in his
debut, so maybe a two way guy.

1056
01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:15.600
But as a hitter, I think
he's pretty good. He has a

1057
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:19.039
lot of the mechanical swing markers that
I really like to see. And when

1058
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:24.399
I was doing my cow league deep
dive like five months ago at this point

1059
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:28.439
now, and I was, you
know, hating on Jess Way to Paula

1060
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.560
and really like John cel Luis.
Elridge was another guy who had a lot

1061
01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:38.840
of the same things that Luis does
in that his he clears his back elbow,

1062
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:43.560
he's a lefty, clears his left
elbow away from his hip, and

1063
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:46.640
then drives through the ball. So
even when he was sort of like mishitting

1064
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:51.359
a line drive, he was still
getting that good back spin. And I

1065
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:55.279
think we're going to see a lot
more power from him next year. It

1066
01:19:55.319 --> 01:20:00.000
was a pretty small sample this year, but I saw enough visually that I

1067
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.039
I was like, oh, yeah, I think the Giants might have found

1068
01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:05.560
a pretty darn good hitter there.
So I'm pretty excited to see him next

1069
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:10.319
year. And he's one that I'd
be really happy with in anywhere in the

1070
01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:15.000
teens in this draft class, Like
whether you're talking about categories, roto points,

1071
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.199
whatever, I think he's just going
to be a really really good player,

1072
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:21.039
and there's the upside potential if he's
a good pitcher as well, then

1073
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:27.039
maybe he's a proto Otani, although
that is wishing upon a star for sure.

1074
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:30.199
But Elridge is one that I was
like, Yeah, I like his

1075
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.319
swing a lot. And then the
other guy in the calleague that I watched

1076
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:36.960
a lot of as a Mariners fan
was Ty Pete. And I see you've

1077
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:43.960
bumped Pete down pretty far. You're
prefless, and I tend to agree.

1078
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.560
I actually would probably push him even
farther down. You've got him in like

1079
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:54.119
the mid fifties. He's not someone
I'm interested in buying. I've seen people

1080
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:59.319
describe his swing as really pretty.
I've seen him described as a really athletic

1081
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:03.199
defense, and I don't think either
of those things is actually true. He

1082
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:08.119
played a pretty bad third base from
what I saw, and again he got

1083
01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:11.239
pushed off short You know, he's
drafted quote unquote as to shortstop, but

1084
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:15.119
Emerson played basically all the innings of
shortstop in Modesto when they were there together,

1085
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:21.359
and Pete wasn't good at third base
in my estimation. As a hitter,

1086
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:27.279
he had one pretty spectacular game where
a hit like he hit a Grand

1087
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.479
Slam and another home run in the
same game. It might have been two

1088
01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.760
Grand Slams, and I'm remembering that, but that seems crazy. But it

1089
01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:35.720
might have been two Grand Slams in
the same game, and I think those

1090
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:39.239
might have been the only two homers
he hit in the Calleague. Again,

1091
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:43.479
he wasn't there a long time.
I really didn't like his swing. He

1092
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:48.159
was really inconsistent with his stride.
He sometimes had a leg lift, sometimes

1093
01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:53.000
had like a toe tap. He
swung and missed a lot. I for

1094
01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:56.920
somebody as highly touted, you know, he was a camp round pick and

1095
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:00.680
got a couple of million bucks.
I was pretty impressed and unimpressed with some

1096
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:04.000
of the important tools for him.
And he seems a lot more like a

1097
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:09.760
developmental project than someone like Emerson,
who I just like I said before,

1098
01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:12.760
I think is this point, there's
not much else he could have done,

1099
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:16.119
and Pete I'm like left with a
lot of questions. So he there's still

1100
01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:20.920
some bones of a pretty interesting prospect
here, but he's got a long way

1101
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:26.000
to go, in my opinion,
and I would hunt elsewhere because I think

1102
01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:28.960
he's going to struggle next year.
I can't win with you. He's pretty

1103
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:30.680
much off my board type of guy, but I wanted to put him on

1104
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:34.640
there because I didn't want to yelled
at we're not ranking a Mariner high enough.

1105
01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:42.600
He's the He's the one I'm I'm
lower on and Farmelo I'm pretty interested

1106
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:45.239
in. But he didn't debut this
year, so he's one that like.

1107
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:50.119
Again, he seems like maybe it's
more of a categories play. I like

1108
01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:56.239
to look at him. Yeah,
I watched some of his like prep prospect

1109
01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:00.159
hype videos and thought it looked pretty
good. And you know, the Mariners

1110
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:04.840
are tuning him as like a plus
plus center fielder, So if that is

1111
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:09.920
true, he could be really interesting
because even if he doesn't hit a lot,

1112
01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:14.600
like he might move quickly and be
a guy that they want to see

1113
01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:17.000
in centerfield, although obviously Julio is
going to be there for forever and is

1114
01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:21.199
a plus center fielder for the moment. Like if Formelo is what they say,

1115
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:26.720
like, maybe you see in four
years or so that it's Formelo in

1116
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:30.479
center and Julio's moved over to right
or something. So right on, I've

1117
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:35.560
got a little clump here of one
to four hitters that I knew nothing about

1118
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:41.479
and talking very deep. Maybe just
watch list type of bets. The first

1119
01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:45.560
one is a first baseman that I
don't see ranked on any first year player

1120
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:50.760
or anything like that from Oakland,
Will Simpson. So they took him in

1121
01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:56.239
the fifteenth round out of Washington,
your neck of the woods, boom.

1122
01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:01.520
You know you don't like those guys. I thought you'd be over sign him

1123
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.520
for one hundred and fifty K.
He's a right hand hitter, might be

1124
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:10.680
a little sometimes looks like there's some
effort in it. But he popped six

1125
01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:15.720
home runs in one hundred and fifty
played appearances, stole three bases. Did

1126
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:17.319
see him run a little bit,
And he's not like he's not like a

1127
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:21.119
stiff, big first baseman, you
know. I mean, he's good size,

1128
01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:26.199
but there's some athleticism to him.
Struck out twenty three percent of the

1129
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:29.560
time, walks seven percent of the
time, slash three nineteen three, sixty

1130
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:33.239
seven, five forty three two twenty
five ISO hit the ball in the air,

1131
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:38.520
I don't know, one thirty six
WRC plus. Seemed like a guy

1132
01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:43.000
who could hit a little bit.
And then uh, Quinn McDaniel's a fairly

1133
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:46.039
high pick with the Giants. I
think they took him in the fifth round.

1134
01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:51.840
Now he's he's goofy, fifth round
out of Maine. Jeremy peney Land,

1135
01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:56.239
he's a little bit goofy. He's
got a really kind of high leg

1136
01:24:56.319 --> 01:25:01.520
lift crouch like really kind of gets
into the swing. Not typically what I

1137
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:05.800
like to see, but he hit
the ball hard when I was watching him.

1138
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:11.199
Six home runs in one hundred and
twenty five played appearances. He struck

1139
01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:14.319
out twenty eight percent of the time, but he also walked twenty two percent

1140
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:16.800
of the time two fifty eight,
four twenty four, four ninety five,

1141
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:21.880
two thirty seven ops, hit the
ball in the air over fifty percent of

1142
01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:25.439
the time. I don't know.
He's a little interesting, kind of like

1143
01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:29.079
second basement and not real big,
but packs of punch. And did you

1144
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:31.359
watch any of him? I did
not, or if I did, I

1145
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:34.680
didn't note him. Yeah, the
Angels too, I was. I was

1146
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:39.760
kind of on the fence with maybe
going with Cole Fontinelli as my sort of

1147
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:45.760
official B side choice third baseman they
drafted in the seventh round out of TCU.

1148
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:49.840
He's a switch hitter. I haven't
quite gotten until I digging into his

1149
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:53.880
splits yet, so I'm not sure
about that. But one hundred and seventy

1150
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:58.439
four plate appearances, he had four
home runs, stole seven bases, struck

1151
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:01.079
out twenty three percent of the time
two sixty one, three thirty three,

1152
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:05.520
four h five slug all fields.
Sort of like line drive hitter, I

1153
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:10.359
think, but hit it over the
fence from the left side. I think

1154
01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:14.279
I liked his his swing from the
left side yet Yeah, yeah, his

1155
01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:17.560
left side stroke is pretty nice.
But he caught my eye, and again

1156
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:23.159
in the system that maybe not the
richest in bats. And then the Marlins

1157
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:25.720
had a bat that I kind of
came on to just the other day.

1158
01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:30.920
Perhaps a little power speed combo here, Mark Koley. The second they drafted

1159
01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.600
him in the seventeenth round out of
Rhode Island. He played center field.

1160
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:40.479
It's a little bit leaner, but
I think he's still in what his max

1161
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:46.720
TV was one hundred and sixth His
ninetieth percentile was one hundred and four barrel

1162
01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:51.880
percentage of twenty one percent, end
zone contact to eighty two percent, chase

1163
01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:56.680
twenty six percent of the time.
Again, not a ton. I think

1164
01:26:56.680 --> 01:27:00.960
there was two series to watch with
him. We hit three home stole nine

1165
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:04.720
bases, struck out almost thirty percent
of the time, walk thirteen percent of

1166
01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:08.119
the time. So okay, this
will be a thing to watch, But

1167
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:13.079
I don't know, interesting potential center
field prospect again in a system that might

1168
01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:15.600
not be the richest in bats.
But those four guys were kind of way

1169
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:20.680
off my radar, but video got
my attention. Those are all super interesting.

1170
01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:25.520
Yeah, I'm just tagged a couple
of them in some of my deeper

1171
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:29.640
leagues to follow and if I get
sniped on all my other targets this offseason,

1172
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:31.560
I'm gonna pop one or two of
them. Yeah, you know maybe,

1173
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:35.279
and ends of your larger league drafts
off. One of those guys are

1174
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:39.960
sitting around want a college bat.
They all kind of interest me too.

1175
01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:45.479
One more guy. This was just
more of some interesting savant stuff paired with

1176
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:49.920
a little bit of a video review. I think there was only like one

1177
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:56.079
series of Kobe Morales played left field
and center field with the Yankees down and

1178
01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:00.279
a ball. They drafted him in
the eighteenth round out of Washington, so

1179
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:04.880
I know you want to get into
a lot of Huskies here. But a

1180
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:10.079
big, big left hand. He's
pretty tall, He's probably like six or

1181
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:14.239
five and guessing strong left hander.
It's kind of looked to look at his

1182
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:18.199
stroke. He had a max TV
of one hundred and ten, average of

1183
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:23.960
ninety one, hit line drives at
a thirty six percent, clip barrel percentage

1184
01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:27.119
of twenty three percent. He hit
one home run. I think I got

1185
01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:30.159
that on video. You know,
you strikeouts, you might be a concern.

1186
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:33.000
He did walk sixteen percent of the
time though, too. But just

1187
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.880
a guy that I'm going to keep
an eye on all right, all right,

1188
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:42.680
I'll we can't leave on a husky, so let me talk about just

1189
01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:47.840
a couple more. I saw Jack
Hurley in Hillsboro, Virginia Tech college grad,

1190
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:53.000
pretty good college performer, canna say. I was a little bit underwhelmed

1191
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:57.520
watching him live. I thought his
chase maybe was a bit more. I

1192
01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:00.560
think one of the games I saw
against Hidden Wind Jip. I know you've

1193
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:03.880
watched a fair amount of two and
Winje just seemed to have his number that

1194
01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:06.960
day. And then one of the
other days that I saw him, he

1195
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:11.399
was just a non factor. I
don't think he had really good at bats,

1196
01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:15.920
and he was hitting behind Groover and
Tommy Troy and like those two looked

1197
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:20.920
like real minor leaguers of note,
and Hurley didn't to me. So it

1198
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:25.520
might have been I just saw him
live on a couple of off nights,

1199
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:28.359
but I don't think he hit the
ground running. So he's one that I've

1200
01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:31.000
rounded down a little bit on,
even though he did a pretty good performance

1201
01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:35.119
in the ACC. And then I'm
intrigued by Aiden Smith. He's one that

1202
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:41.439
Chris Clegg has talked up a bit. I was just going, oh,

1203
01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:45.159
you were interesting. I Clegg has
tucked him up and I think has him

1204
01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:50.840
stuff pretty high in his FYPD lists. I would say the tape is at

1205
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:56.960
least what I saw, maybe didn't
quite excite me as much as it did

1206
01:29:57.159 --> 01:30:01.199
Chris. But Smith is what I'm
int sit in following. Good frame.

1207
01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:06.399
His swing looked okay, just the
results were not really there in the small

1208
01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:12.520
sample that I saw in Modesto.
So he's one that I'm interested in following,

1209
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:15.439
kind of like Farmelo. I want
to see both of them over a

1210
01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:20.720
larger sample next year. If I
had to guess, Smith might start back

1211
01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:27.199
in Modesto, and Farmelo they might
just start in effett at hi A.

1212
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:30.720
I don't know why he didn't debut
this year. Must have been an injury

1213
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:32.720
of some kind, but I can't
remember hearing that reported. But anyway,

1214
01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:39.520
he's one that I'm intrigued by.
There might be a decent player there,

1215
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:44.640
but it was he didn't jump off
the page. I'd say watching him in

1216
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:46.720
his debut, but you were gonna
poop pull him a bit? What didn't

1217
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:50.199
you like about him? His full
season debut is first that bad? He

1218
01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:54.039
hit a home run and you got
a side view of it. You know,

1219
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:56.680
home run, well done, But
I don't know if I can really

1220
01:30:56.760 --> 01:31:00.439
articulate it, but there's just like
an awkwardness in the swing that was that

1221
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:03.960
kind of call my attention. And
he comes around the bases, he blows

1222
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:11.439
some kisses to the fans, thes
like, come on, man, yeah,

1223
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.159
I don't know, Like like you
said, it is for a prep

1224
01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:15.960
guy that you know you hear people
talking about. And I don't know,

1225
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:20.119
I didn't really but he was a
fourth round pick out of Texas. I

1226
01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:25.880
guess they gave him a one point
two million not like real like physically imposing,

1227
01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:29.720
not that that's a huge deal.
But yeah, he's tall. But

1228
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:33.560
I think the thing about his swing
that looks a little awkward is he seems

1229
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:39.359
like one that pulls his hands across
him a bit more. I think we've

1230
01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:42.680
talked about this, but and he
finishes kind of low, like if you

1231
01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:46.119
see where his hands finish on the
swing, but in this swing, like

1232
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:53.000
you see, his finish is a
lot lower, so his like both his

1233
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:58.079
hands end up at his left shoulder
below And I think that looks a little

1234
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:00.319
bit awkward. And I also think
they are cutting in front of him just

1235
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:03.720
a little bit. I will say
the pitch he hit out there is on

1236
01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:08.960
the outer half and you hit it
out to center. So there's some extension

1237
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:13.399
that's happening there to hit that ball
out in that direction. But I think

1238
01:32:13.399 --> 01:32:16.279
it might be like, shoot,
who's the guy the latter? Chase Delatter?

1239
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:21.760
He has a sort of similar abbreviated
finish to this, although his is

1240
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:26.399
a little bit higher, like again
he kind of like stops his hands,

1241
01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:30.479
but they're a little bit higher than
But I wonder if that's like the visual

1242
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:33.359
awkwardness that we're seeing here could be
right, Uh yeah, I don't know,

1243
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:35.880
Like, you know, prep guys, I gotta get you got to

1244
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:41.760
get real excited. And I just
wasn't getting real excited with Aiden Smith here.

1245
01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:45.600
And you know, going back to
your opening opening diatribe, right,

1246
01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:47.600
like, if you're not excited about
a guy, pass on him, let

1247
01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:51.680
somebody else float that risk, Especially
for a high school draftee. You know

1248
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:56.159
it's going to be so long before
they're relevant. I wanted to ask you,

1249
01:32:56.319 --> 01:32:59.960
Braden Taylor, No, you know
we're talking. Well, he was

1250
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:02.600
like a mid first round pick,
right, He's another one that Jeff Pons

1251
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:06.199
was pretty pretty on. Really Jeff
likes him. Oh no, I'm pretty

1252
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:10.439
sure. I think I read that
in one of the one of the BA

1253
01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:13.640
articles that he was like, this
is a guy that I'm planning my flag

1254
01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:15.239
on. I don't know. I
was like, maybe one to take him

1255
01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:20.479
off my board completely, Okay,
I mean what, he had five home

1256
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:25.119
runs and one hundred and eight played
appearances and he stole eleven bases. That's

1257
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:28.239
that's pretty nice. Now he's not
going to be a shortstop, right,

1258
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:30.880
He's going to be a third baseman. From what I've gathered, you know,

1259
01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:32.920
he struck out thirty two percent of
the time. I don't like that

1260
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.720
hit a lot of line drives,
pulled the ball sixty one percent of the

1261
01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:42.920
time. I don't know heavy heavy
pool hitters with strikeout concern. Maybe maybe

1262
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:45.720
I was just overthinking it, but
he's a tough one for me. I

1263
01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:49.199
probably won't have any Bradon Taylor shares, but Jeff likes him, so he'll

1264
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:55.279
probably be good and I'll look like
an idiot. I didn't watch any of

1265
01:33:55.720 --> 01:33:59.319
Taylor, so he's one that and
I don't know whether there was a ton

1266
01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:01.880
I guess he was at a ball
for a decent clip and did pretty well.

1267
01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:06.319
Yeah, he did strike up,
but you just don't get a trusting

1268
01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:11.119
feeling, you know, and you
know, thirty two percent strikeout right at

1269
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:15.520
a ball is not great for a
college bat, right, Like I know

1270
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:19.800
mid first round of college that,
yeah, you're all about Walton and his

1271
01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:29.199
thirty plus percent strikeout right games five
we have like a butt, No,

1272
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:34.520
this is this is this is twenty
two games in a ball for a college

1273
01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:38.920
bat. Again, like we talked
about, we're looking at Werner and a

1274
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.800
couple of the other guys at Able, like you want to see him do

1275
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:45.680
well there. So that strikeout right
would give me, would give me pause.

1276
01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:50.560
But any raised prospects too, I
hate investing in raised prospects too.

1277
01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:55.600
I'm just I'm coming to that acceptance. Why is that there's just too many

1278
01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:58.560
of them and they don't give a
shit about your fantasy team. They're not

1279
01:34:58.720 --> 01:35:03.000
the Royals who are just plug and
play somebody. Yeah exactly, No,

1280
01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:06.159
But you know they're like I'm not
knocking the way that they do things.

1281
01:35:06.199 --> 01:35:10.359
I think it's they're awesome in what
they do, and they do what they

1282
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:13.359
have to do and they optimize what
they got to work with. But you

1283
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:15.560
know, like, okay, so
we're going to add another infielder to the

1284
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:21.560
mix here potentially platoon or something.
We've talked about their pitching before too.

1285
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:25.439
I don't I don't really how they
develop a lot of their pictures, Like

1286
01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:28.560
I don't know the price that Bradon
Taylor is going to be in my draft,

1287
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:30.560
Like, I might as well just
take them off my board, so

1288
01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:32.760
I'm not going to get them.
It is interesting that for someone that was

1289
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:36.840
lauded with such a great plate approach
struck out as much as he did in

1290
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:42.479
a ball And it wasn't like he
walked twenty percent of the time either,

1291
01:35:42.840 --> 01:35:45.479
which you know would be impressive.
You know, he walked fourteen point six

1292
01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:48.640
percent of the time, which is
above average, but I wouldn't say it's

1293
01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:53.840
like super plus. It's a small
sample still, like, you know,

1294
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:58.319
not quite one hundred plate appearances.
You know, even k raid and walk

1295
01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:01.720
rate, those are probably still a
little noisy at that level. And you

1296
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:06.479
know, five homers and eleven steals
in his JBU was interesting, right,

1297
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:12.359
Y's not bad. But yeah,
okay, you know it's fair to have

1298
01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:15.880
some questions about Taylor. Well probably
just not my guy. But oh hey,

1299
01:36:16.039 --> 01:36:19.880
you like the you're talking about the
Orioles Riches. Did you happen to

1300
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:27.840
see any of their twentieth round pick, Jalen Vasquez out of some small school

1301
01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:31.399
somewhere in South Carolina or something like
that. But I'm not ringing a bell.

1302
01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:34.920
He's kind of a fun guy to
watch, you know. We talked

1303
01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:41.399
about like Javier Sinoya. Yeah,
I get like little vibes from Vasquez,

1304
01:36:41.520 --> 01:36:45.039
just like dude is going to maximize
everything, and he's athletic and he can

1305
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:46.640
he can run. I don't he
didn't hit a home run. I don't

1306
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:49.840
know if that'd be part of his
game. But it's kind of a fun

1307
01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:54.800
just a fun player, I think, a guy that you just kind of

1308
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:59.000
want to root for. Nice well
in the clothes here, there were a

1309
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:04.039
couple names that I noticed were conspicuously
absent from your from your list, can

1310
01:37:04.039 --> 01:37:10.000
I ask, Okay, Yeah,
for sure, I noticed Kyle Teal not

1311
01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:15.000
on your top one hundred. That's
true. He's not fourteenth overall pick for

1312
01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:18.760
the Boston Red Sox catcher. It's
it's not again, that's not a rank

1313
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:24.880
sheet. I just there's no way
that I'm gonna draft get Teal in any

1314
01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:30.880
draft. There's no way. And
is that because of the position risk that

1315
01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:33.640
most catchers have, or what is
it? What is it about Teal that

1316
01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:38.159
is turning you off? I mean, I don't have any of his stuff

1317
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:41.760
pulled up, but I don't think
he's as good of a hitter as everyone

1318
01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:45.840
is saying he is. Just generally
speaking, people really love him, not

1319
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:48.920
nearly as much as I'm going to
pay for him. And yeah, I

1320
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:54.479
don't know, maybe that's just really
cheap and generic and boring. But I

1321
01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:58.159
don't I don't get it. I
don't get all the love for Kyle Teal.

1322
01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:00.119
So this is one that you and
I agree on. Like, I

1323
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:04.880
would probably rank him in a top
hundred just if I was doing a rank

1324
01:38:05.560 --> 01:38:10.560
Maga something, he would be in
there. But I'm with you. I

1325
01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:16.119
don't think he is a special enough
hitter to be worth the price to hold

1326
01:38:16.439 --> 01:38:23.239
a dynasty catcher. You got to
be a special hitter that catcher. Yep,

1327
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:29.119
I agree. Just in general,
investing in minor league dynasty catchers is

1328
01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:35.279
I think a path towards madness because
they just bus so fast, they get

1329
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:40.079
hurt. Even if they are good, they'll come up and maybe they won't

1330
01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:44.239
play, or maybe they won't be
good while they're learning to catch big league

1331
01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:48.800
pitching as a hitter because that's their
main job. And then you're holding this

1332
01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:54.479
guy that gets three hundred and fifty
played appearances and is met and you're like,

1333
01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.800
oh, I held on to this
guy since I drafted him. So

1334
01:38:57.239 --> 01:39:00.119
just as a class of hitters,
that's not one that I'm really interested in

1335
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:04.720
buying generally speaking, even though I
think he seems like a pretty decent defender,

1336
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:08.600
especially in the catch and throw department. He seems special there. But

1337
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:13.560
he hit the ground running for his
debut, but it was in the way

1338
01:39:13.720 --> 01:39:17.079
that you should look at very skeptically. Skeptically, it was a super high

1339
01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:23.560
babbit across all the levels that he
hit some power, but not a ton.

1340
01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:27.199
If I remember right, his ISO
was below one fifty, and so

1341
01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:30.880
it's not like he's, you know, running some impressive statistical line. It

1342
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:39.680
was really buoyed by his babbit and
that is so fickle. So I he's

1343
01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:43.720
one like he might crater next year
and you can acquire him for cheap in

1344
01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:47.520
July when his babbeb comes down to
two ninety and he's catching in double A

1345
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:50.279
or triple A, and he's like, oh, well, the luster is

1346
01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:54.840
off, and you could acquire him
then, but he's not one I'm pumping

1347
01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:58.279
up draft boards either. So that
was one I wanted to agree with you

1348
01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:00.840
on. Yeah, yeah, it's
it's not so much I find him not

1349
01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:04.960
to be a nice prospect or anything
like that. It's just just a fantasy

1350
01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:10.119
game thing. I also don't have
Namaua on there. That was the other

1351
01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:13.760
one I was gonna ask about.
Have you watched him and you're you're just

1352
01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:16.319
or bit and I get it,
and I say, and it's just the

1353
01:40:16.359 --> 01:40:19.840
same thing with Teal, like I'm
just he's gonna go well. Before I

1354
01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:24.359
think about him, I think he's
a very nice prospect. I know he's

1355
01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:29.520
really young. I do, and
typically I'm drawn to guys who have seemed

1356
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:31.800
to have just like really fast hands
and really good hands, and I think

1357
01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:36.119
he does have that, uh,
just from what I've gathered. And I

1358
01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:41.760
feel like he's kind of stuck in
between a short stop that's gonna like hit

1359
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:45.680
a lot, or a third basement
that's not gonna hit enough. It's kind

1360
01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:48.319
of what I'm thinking. And I
also I don't trust the Blue Jays.

1361
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:53.840
I don't. I don't like Blue
Jays hitters as a whole, especially ones

1362
01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:57.439
that they draft high. It hasn't
gone well and not that you know,

1363
01:40:57.439 --> 01:40:59.600
I don't want to make too much
of that. It's about the player,

1364
01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:01.640
but yeah, just where he's going
to go, I'm just he's not going

1365
01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:04.239
to be. It's not going to
be in my cue at any time.

1366
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:11.800
I think it's interesting. In fangrafts, they gave him plus to double plus

1367
01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:17.560
raw power, which I was surprised
about. They were like they put a

1368
01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:24.439
seventy on his future raw wow,
which watching because I watched some of his

1369
01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:27.760
video. I didn't see any of
his I don't think any of his complex

1370
01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:30.319
games were broadcast or whatever, but
I watched, you know, a decent

1371
01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:33.000
amount of it. And actually,
fun side story, I grew up playing

1372
01:41:33.039 --> 01:41:38.000
cricket, so I still occasionally watched
cricket. And during the Cricket World Cup

1373
01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:44.800
in India this year, Nimala actually
went to India because he's his family's Indian

1374
01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:49.159
and so he went to India and
met with one of the Indian national cricket

1375
01:41:49.159 --> 01:41:56.399
team players and like tried to hit
off of a bowling machine in the Indian

1376
01:41:56.479 --> 01:42:00.680
national team facility and did okay.
You know, like I think I think

1377
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:04.560
that sort of like cross skill.
There's some overlap there, but it's surprisingly

1378
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:11.239
difficult, and he showed at least
some aptitude to hit a cricket ball as

1379
01:42:11.279 --> 01:42:15.119
it was bold off of one of
their pitching machines. And then the other

1380
01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:18.680
guy I'm forgetting his name, the
Indian cricket player, then hit off a

1381
01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:23.800
baseball machine that they brought for the
thing too, and did not do very

1382
01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:28.800
well because they're pretty different. But
anyway, it's like, so I see

1383
01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:32.239
some decent hand eye coordination, Like
I think he might be a hit overpower

1384
01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:36.479
guy. But I just thought that
was so interesting that they projected such impressive

1385
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:41.279
power off of a guy that at
least my like limited looks. I was

1386
01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:43.960
like, oh, he seems more
of a hit overpower kind of guy.

1387
01:42:44.560 --> 01:42:49.680
And BA some good vs for a
young young player like himself maybe, but

1388
01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:55.640
BA gave him a fifty five power, so I don't know. It's sort

1389
01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:59.479
of a weird guy. Like,
I'm interested to see more of him because

1390
01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:02.760
I like you and sort of skeptical, i'd say, of Namala, and

1391
01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:08.119
he's not not what I'm clamoring to
get. So I mean, if you'll

1392
01:43:08.159 --> 01:43:11.560
see, we'll see. My years
of playing Dynasty, there's never been a

1393
01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:16.159
year where there's some first round or
highly saw after prep bat that a year

1394
01:43:16.239 --> 01:43:20.960
later nobody wants anymore. Yeah,
So now I'm not saying that's gonna be

1395
01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:24.840
him, but I don't think it. I don't think you're wrong if you

1396
01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:28.920
just try to pick out a few
and who those may be and just completely

1397
01:43:28.920 --> 01:43:30.880
avoid them. Also, going back
to one of the points you made it

1398
01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:33.800
earlier, is like, if you
miss on a guy, you're gonna get

1399
01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:38.159
a chance to acquire him again,
right, Like maybe you have to pay

1400
01:43:38.239 --> 01:43:42.560
up to do it. But if
you really like somebody next year and you

1401
01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:45.239
missed on him in this draft,
like you're gonna be able to get him

1402
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:50.439
in some way. And that's like
I made this point in that article about

1403
01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:56.880
pictures that I wrote and why pay
up for quote unquote the market price.

1404
01:43:57.079 --> 01:44:00.880
If a guy's pumped as a mid
first round FIP and you're like looking at

1405
01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:04.439
that profile, there's going to be
some bumps in the road, you're going

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to be able to get him later
on. You if you really believe let

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someone else hold the risk, Let
someone else hold and watch them struggle and

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01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:16.760
then target them into trade like you're
always going to be able to do that

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01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:20.720
at least in leagues where people are
interested in trading there. I've been in

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01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:25.239
leagues before where people don't really want
to trade. In one of my leagues,

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like the league just flat out said
that nobody's allowed to trade with me

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because I'd won the league like seven
years in a row, and they're like,

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just stop, just don't trade with
them anymore. So I finished second

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01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:39.399
for a couple of years in that
league, but I wanted again last year,

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01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:44.439
so suck it, my homeble league. But so most leagues, though,

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especially in the dynasty format, you're
going to be able to trade.

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You should actively seek out these guys
that you coveted or wanted to follow and

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01:44:55.760 --> 01:44:59.840
follow up if they do turn out
to be something or you still believe in

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01:44:59.880 --> 01:45:04.680
that another like just quick dynasty story. In my longest running dynasty league,

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the league is a team based league, so I have the Angels, but

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when we started the league, we
went through a draft to pick which team

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01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:17.520
was your namesake. When it got
down to my pick, I was between

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the Angels and the Red Sox,
and at the time, the Red Sox

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01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:30.840
had a much more highly rated minor
league system and some young players that were

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01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:33.800
pretty good, like some present value
of like Chris Sale might be an ace.

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01:45:34.079 --> 01:45:38.640
Rafael Devers at the time was like
a twenty three year old phenom who

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was like already succeeding in the major
leagues, and a host of other pretty

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01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:46.159
good players around them, and then
their minor leagues were really well regarded,

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01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:51.560
whereas the Angels had trout Otani,
a couple of other like decent major leaguers

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01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:56.520
like Rendon before he had all the
injuries, and a couple of their pitchers

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01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:00.960
were kind of interesting, Sandoval Iglesias. And then in the minor leagues they

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01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:03.079
had like Reid debt Merz. I
think that was the year he got drafted

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01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:06.439
and that was it, and everybody
else in their minor leagues was poop.

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And I was like, oh my
god. Joe Adell was like their number

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01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:15.239
one prospect at the time, and
he's awful. He's so bad. But

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in the Red Sox system they had
all these highly rated prospects, you know,

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01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:24.399
at the time, it was like
Bobby Dolbeck, Tristan Cassas. This

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01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:28.880
might have been the year they drafted
Marcela Mayer to Nick York, like all

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01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:33.760
these guys that were quote unquote top
one hundred lock prospects. Now looking back,

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01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:39.680
one of their prospects panned out from
that crop, who was like very

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01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:44.880
clearly like a top five prospects of
stem one Cassas, and everybody else is

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01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:48.319
bad or at least might not even
make the major leagues as a regular.

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01:46:48.520 --> 01:46:53.399
So all that to say, like
the prospect side of things, the error

1444
01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:58.279
bars are huge, and in FYPD, they're the biggest, even at the

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01:46:58.319 --> 01:47:00.960
top, you know, to the
point earlier, like Elijah Green was a

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01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:05.680
can't miss, tooled up five tool
guy a year ago. Drew Jones was

1447
01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:11.479
even better, and you couldn't pay
me to roster those two at this point,

1448
01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:15.119
right, and like that was the
consensus a year ago. Now,

1449
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:18.880
I think this year is uncommon in
that the top of this FYPD is actually

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01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:24.000
very very good, even down to
like number eight, nine, ten,

1451
01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:28.439
Like I think there's a pretty clear
the top two I think are incredible.

1452
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:31.199
The next chunk till about ten are
like very very good. These guys are

1453
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.960
going to be big leaguers. And
then the next chunk down to like twenty

1454
01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:40.000
twenty five are exciting, like ones
that you'd be happy to land. After

1455
01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:44.720
that though, it's the wild West
anything could happen. The airbars are enormous.

1456
01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:47.439
We do not have enough information to
actually know. So take the guys

1457
01:47:47.479 --> 01:47:50.680
you like, take the ones that
excite you, and if you miss on

1458
01:47:50.720 --> 01:47:54.640
somebody, you miss on somebody,
you'll be able to trade for somebody else

1459
01:47:54.720 --> 01:48:00.279
later. Sure there's plenty efficiency.
We're gonna be b siding all year trying

1460
01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:03.439
to find all those muddy catfish down
at the bottom. They're going to turn

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01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:08.319
into something. And the only regret
that I ever have in first year player

1462
01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:12.720
drafts is when I'm not aggressive enough
on somebody that I wanted and somebody else

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01:48:12.800 --> 01:48:16.319
gets. I've never been sad because
I missed on a star that I didn't

1464
01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:20.000
get whoever, only been mad when
the guy I wanted it turned out good

1465
01:48:20.119 --> 01:48:24.319
and I was just too passive about
it. That's it, preach. So

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AnyWho, thanks for joining us,
Episode seventeen of the Prospect B Sides podcast.

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You can, like I said earlier, follow me on Twitter if you

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like. At pitching specs. I've
got this Google sheet up with videos of

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many of players that we talked about
many more. But yeah, we'll let

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Chicago Farmer take us out and next
time we will talk first year player.

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Pictures. Pictures gross eel. It
be so much fun. There's so much

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more diversity and adventure and different styles
and possibilities with pictures. Well, we'll

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01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:04.680
talk to you next time. See
five miles an hour. Riding to his

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01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:12.720
head, he hopped down the first
with the lump on his face, and

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01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:20.800
on the very next pitch he up
and stole second face with gretest speed.

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He wasn't born, but he had
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