It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine
day. Now here's Nick Coffee. I know everybody has pet peeves when it
comes to just things within the world of sports. You know. One of
mine is when they mentioned somebody's got an injury, like, hey, uh,
linebacker John Alden, he's out with a knee. What do you mean
he's out with a knee. We all have knees, Like, what's these?
You know, that's just that's something that always has irritated me. It's
harmless, but it's just always been very generic. Yeah. Another thing is
whenever like the bottom them scroll or like just a graphic within a broadcast or
maybe even announce, an announcer mentions it, or somebody on Sports Center mentions
it when they are wrapping up, you know, highlighting one specific game.
They they share a fact or a stat as if that's supposed to be eye
popping, like, you know, impressive. Like Boston Celtics, this is
their first appearance in the NBA Finals since two thousand and two. I mean
that that's I mean it's two years ago, like I would say that,
you know, you mean twenty two you said in two and two. Yeah,
twenty two, because twenty two, why not say this is their second
trip to the NBA Finals in three years, Like that's a better way to
say. Just those are little things that some people probably don't even notice that
that just irritate me. And I don't know if I'm about to do that
as far as sharing something that like is presented and delivered as if it's really
rare and you won't believe it and people are going to be like, who
cares? But I do feel like this is rare. Louisville opening up their
season on Saturday. Not this Saturday, but when they kick off on August
thirty first against Austin p on a Saturday at noon, that'll be the first
time Louisville has played their season opener on a Saturday against a non Power five
team since two thousand and nine, fifteen years ago. Doesn't that seem like
kind of that is a long time, because I feel like a lot of
teams kick off their season and start the season with this kind of a game
against an Austin p So you know, I was right. I mean,
the last time they played a non Power five team to start a season was
that Charlotte game I mentioned, but that was in two that was on a
Thursday night, so they played, you know, Kentucky, if you remember
back in the day, they used to play Kentucky every year on the opener,
and then it went to every other year. I thought when they played
Ohio in two thousand and two thousand, let me see what year was it,
twenty thirteen, they kick it off their season against Ohio the Bobcats.
That was Teddy's last year, Charlie's last year. But that was actually on
a Sunday because of the holiday weekend, which, by the way, nobody
cares anymore and it'll never be done, and heck, the series may not
even be played down the line because Kentucky may not want to play Louisville anymore.
But that rivalry was at its best when it was the first game of
the season and they were able to get it put on the They were able
to get it put on the Sunday of the holiday weekend. The NFL hadn't
started yet, so you're not competing with the NFL. You know, throw
it up at three o'clock and look, you're not going to dominate viewership.
But hey, the rare Sunday where there's a college football game on during the
day because the NFL starts the week later. I just thought it was perfect.
And you know, this year, maybe this will be the year.
I thought last year could have been the year where both teams felt really good
about their season and where they are, and you know, it would lead
to there being some real juice and some excitement. And I don't mean where
Louisville and can Tucky would be that matchup will be discussed like Auburn, Alabama,
Michigan, Ohio State. I just mean around here. There'd be,
you know, really high level excitement. And it didn't happen. Louisville was
having a really good year, Kentucky not so much, and they were lifeless
going into it, and sure enough, Kentucky ended up winning the game.
So who knows, maybe it'll happen, maybe not. But anyways, if
you're wondering why I start our number two with this, it's because Louisville now
knows when they're going to kick off their first two games, which of course
Austin p at noon on the thirty first, that's a Saturday, and then
the next Saturday they'll play at three thirty on the ACC Network extra against Jacksonville
State. And then the other game we now know when they're starting is the
Friday night game in October against Boston College at Boston College will start at seven
thirty on ESPN two. I am starting to grow a little bit. I
don't know Friday night games. I'd rather I don't know. I used to
be okay with them because it would give it make it to where Saturday I
don't have to worry about, you know, following one. I can just
bet on all the games and go back and forth and kind of just you
know, move around a little bit. But I just feel like Friday night
games for Louisville, at least recently have kind of always been a letdown.
Did they have any last year? Was Murray State a Friday game? I
think it was a Thursday? Okay, I don't do they have Surely they
had a Friday night game last year. I'm sure there's one that I'm just
completely blanket on. But now I've got to look it up, because again
my mind won't let me just move on from it. Oh, they started
the season on a Friday last year and then they played Oh yeah, this
was a memorable game. A game that. Man, there were some games
this year for Louisville that I have no problem saying that, like they were
you know, I give them credit for finding ways to win. One of
the things you heard me say many many times during the season is that you
don't want to be in a position where you're really having to just grind it
out and dig deep and pulse pull off, you know, not a miracle,
but just you know, like, for example, they'd be in close
games with teams they shouldn't be in close games with, like Virginia, who
they should have lost to probably. But the one game where I'm like,
man, I don't know how the hell they won was at NC State on
that Friday, and I mean plumber was bad, Plumber, nothing was really
working, and they found a way to win. They ended up winning on
a field goal. So Friday night games they're okay. But for some reason,
I don't know, maybe maybe because of the stress level of last And
by the way, both Friday night games last year were we were close calls.
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com. All right, so, last night, at midnight the deadline for
college players to either stay in the draft or remove their name from the draft
and go back to Kyle. There are still a handful of good players that
are that have decided to come back to school, but nobody knows where they're
going to go to school, so it's not as if everything's official. But
for the most part, most rosters are pretty much finalized or at least close
to it. And I would imagine that the guys like Woga Poplar, Coleman
Hawkins, Arthur Kalooma, I would be willing to bet that they'll probably be
joining teams that are probably already viewed to be top twenty caliber teams, top
fifteen caliber teams. So you may just see a slight movement where one team
jumps ahead a couple of spots or something like that. But Jeff Goodman of
the Field of sixty eight, he put out his top twenty five earlier today
and he had Louisville in the top twenty five. And this is they did
it on their live stream, robbed Oster and Jeff Goodman, and this is
what Goodman had to say about putting Louisvill at number twenty five. And I
believe the question that he's answering here. I think Rob asked him, was
there anybody he had, you know that he you know now that he's reflecting
and looking at his twenty five top twenty five teams, somebody that he has
ranked and maybe he didn't expect. And you know, here's what he had
to say. I put Louisville at twenty five. Okay, I don't know.
It's a late edition, a late edition. I put Pat Kelcey in
the Louisville Cardinals at twenty five, and you know, again I didn't have
him in there initially. Texas Tech was was one two. I put in
there at twenty that again with the addition at JT. Topp and the other
day, that took them to a different level. They still have money By
the way, don't be shocked if they make a run at somebody else on
the board. Right now, John say that Texas Tech. I will say
this about Texas Tech. I didn't think that I was going to like him
as much as I did. I was just gonna turn this down real quick
and see if they end up talking about Louisville. I think they do.
But while we wait to see if they do discuss Louisville, and if they
don't, will bail. I'm aware because already know the text line is going
to be loaded with this from UK fans and maybe even some louisvill fans.
Jeff Goodman really likes Pat Kelsey, like I know that well aware. I
mean, he also kind of framed it like it was all about Pat Kelsey
too, the way that he brought it down. You know, let's not
forget I mean, and I'm sure a lot of you have forgot or maybe
don't even know, but I won't forget it. John's what I'm talking about.
Yep. He came on the show in January and told me Pat Kelsey
should be somebody that Louisville goes after. And I didn't even respond to it
in real time you know, because I just thought there's no war. I
mean, I'm not going to well, it may have been the first name
he mentioned. Well, I told it was. It was the first thing.
Okay. I ended up texting him two days after he became official and
I sent him the clip and he said when was this? And I said
January? And it was like January eighth or something like that. It was
early in January. And I said, so, did you truly think at
any point like then that he was He said no, I mean I don't
know if he want. He never thought that Pat Kelsey would ever even be
thought of. I mean, he didn't. Those weren't his so I'm not
misquoting him, but no, he I mean nobody did, no, but
Pat Kelsey didn't think he'd ever be in the position, uh to to be
at Louisville. So now he's here and you know, hadn't coached a game
yet, but it certainly looks as if he is someone that with that step
up the ladder better you know, selling a better program, more resources to
help you sell said program that he can he can go out there and and
and recruit. And that is one thing that ever, you know, whenever
it got down to Josh Shirts. Even Dusty May and Pat Kelsey those were
the non I mean, I hope like crazy in a few years that Josh
Shirts and Pat Kelsey are way more successful than than Dusty May, which I
don't know. If a weird hatred for him, then I don't know why,
because I don't. He's not done anything to me. He's not our
coach, and I think that's good, but I don't. But long,
what I'm getting at is if you were if you were going to go that
route and not go get you know, a bigger name or a guy that's
just not maybe you know, not a huge name, but a guy that's
coached at the Power five level and had success that if you were going to
go mid major route regardless of resume. You know, Goodman said it.
Rob Cassidy of Rivals, who covers recruiting, has said it. Torres,
who you know, has heard that the same you know, he ended up
telling me he heard the exact same thing, that Kelsey would be the guy
that would be able to sell and recruit better than you know with with a
bigger logo on his shirt. And I don't mean like bigger in size,
but clearly selling Louisville is different than selling Charleston, So you know he's well,
I wouldn't be shocked if there are a lot of other rankings that come
out here soon and Louisville's not in there. I mean, I wouldn't be
shocked if they do sneak in the top twenty five. But disclaimer, like,
I know that that Goodman putting them there, you know, may have
something to do with with his you know, his friendship with with Pat Kelcey.
Let's see, Okay, So yeah, that's all they They didn't say
a whole lot about Louisville other than he's got Louisville at twenty five. Have
you seen the rest of these? John No, I haven't been tree though.
All right, So before we get to Kentucky, I know you are,
you know, a proud who'sier. Do you have a guess where Goodman
put them? Because I will tell you, Actually, I'm not eve gonna
say it. I'm gonna say so Goodman, at least in recent years and
maybe his entire time in Indiana's only been there for three years. He's not
the biggest fan of Mike Woodson. He has been complimentary of what they've done
in the portal. I believe he's got Indiana at number seventeen. There's no
way you haven't seen this. Was I dead, I'm not. I'm not
fooling you. Is it dead seventeen? Dead on seventeen? And I know
you're being serious because you wouldn't. I mean, if you, if you
already saw, you would have told me. But yeah, you got it
right on the money seventeen. So I don't know. I feel like having
Indiana and I won't claim to know what everybody's done in the portal. And
I don't know like Cincinnati being at sixteen. Like Cincinnati, I mean why,
I don't even know what that's based on. Yeah, me either.
I mean, they weren't very good last year, and I don't think they've
landed some huge name in the portal. It could be though that you know,
let's be real, when we look at these rankings a lot of times
now we just okay, let's see, man, they had a great portal
class and they're usually pretty good anyway. I bet they're ranked pretty high.
But it's not crazy to still look at teams that do bring back a lot
that were you know, potentially going to be good and then added some pieces
if that makes sense, right, Like, it's not just based off who
had the best portal class. If you had a pretty good team and you
bring back the bulk of that team and there's an expectation that they're going to
be even better, meaning the guys you brought back, and then oh,
by the way, you went and added a piece here and there that could
lead to you being, you know, a pretty good team that would be
justifiably in the top twenty. So maybe that's you know, Tennessee ben a
fifteen, no surprise, their Tennessee's been a top fifteen team for the last
you know, many years. Ole miss at number fourteen, which is Chris
Beard. I mean, that's the Chris Beard bump at thirteen, createon twelve,
Arizona eleven. So as much as I wanted to think Indiana should have
been higher, I can't really think of any teams that I would say,
or you know, it's just blasphemy that they are ahead of the Hoosiers.
Now Kentucky they are at number twenty five. Because Goodman, after he wrapped
up the live stream they made the graphic, he put Louisville at twenty four
and then Kentucky at twenty five and Arkansas's at twenty three. So that is
such a troll move. I will yeah, I will be you know,
I will be honest with you. When he did this, the Jackson Robinson
news had not had not come out yet, so he put Kentucky at twenty
five before Jackson Robinson committed and since then. Here's what Goodman said after that
news. Bro Kentucky getting Jackson Robinson at Jackson Robinson is exactly what Mark Pope
needed. Now the Cats have a guy who can go make a play and
get a bucket. I think there are a lot to be a preseason top
twenty five team now, maybe even top fifteen ish. I don't think that
that is unfair at all. I mean, I won't claim to know everything
about Jackson Robinson, but he is a polished offensive player that, to Jeff's
point, can be somebody to just go get you a bucket when you need
it. And I'm not sure they really had that kind of guy on the
roster. They've got some specialists, right, They're pretty They're pretty deep in
the front court, although I don't know if they've got like a great front
court offensive player. Maybe that ends up being the Garrison kid. Maybe he
breaks out the one who transferred from Oklahoma State and they've got great shooting,
and is it Kobe Burray? I think that's how you say his name from
Dayton. I mean he's a really good shooter. So they've got good pieces.
But as far as a guy that's like, okay, go create something,
I guess that's what Jackson Robinson is going to be. All right,
let's go ahead and get to our first break here in the four o'clock hour.
We got a lot more to get into as we roll along here.
I want to talk some football coming up here shortly because I have a buddy
of mine who does some work for athlon sports and sporting news with college basket
or college football right ups, and he asked me to give him some feedback
on Louisville football as far as, okay, breakout player on offense and defense,
which you know, who's who do you think is going to be the
biggest and best newcomer from the portal, which freshmen could potentially be more ready
than anybody else. And I haven't you know, I've given it a lot
of thought. I haven't actually put together anything yet, but I want to
talk about it because I actually think that's interesting as we get closer and closer
to football season. I know basketball has got a lot of the attention recently
for obvious reasons. There's a new coach, it's a new era, we're
excited, brand new team. But hey, Jeff Brom's coming off a ten
win season and a trip to the ACC Championship game. So I don't know
if that's going to happen again this year. It's going to be tougher just
because of the schedule, but certainly could happen, and we'll talk a lot
more about it as we move along here on Sports Talk seven to ninety.
So when it comes to the potential changes coming to college athletics, there's a
lot of legal terms that are way too advanced for me. I mentioned every
now and then I read Ross Dellinger at yahoo'sport, who I think does a
great job of explaining things, you know, to people a lot smarter than
me. But he also can dumb it down for someone as dumb as me.
And he's been covering this thing pretty pretty closely. And I'll just read
for you this this report from him, because this is this is this is
big news that just came out within the last ten minutes. It sounds like
proposed consent decree prohibits colleges and universities from infringing on college athletes freedom to transfer
to school. So they're still trying to figure out how they're going to do
the employee situation, like are they going to be employees at these schools or
not, But it sounds like the transfer situation has been handled, so again
legal terms, according to Ross Dellinger, I'll read this the proposed consent decree
if anybody or if I'm sorry, the proposed consent Decree, if approved by
the court, enjoins nc DOULA from enforcing transfer eligibility rule and from adopting any
similar rule in the future. And then he says Layman's terms unlimited transfers without
penalty. So it sounds like it's going to continue to be an absolute free
for all and you can transfer whenever you want, as many times as you
want, as long as the transfers meet n C double A academic eligibility requirements.
So I'm sure that's a bummer to some people, but not really a
surprise to me, because again, it being chaotic, it being you know,
the wild wild West as people say, and it may in it being
almost impossible for coaches to really you know, it changes everything about how you
manage or I mean it changes everything as a coach. You probably have to
mean they've already they've already been having to do it, knowing they could lose
a player to transfer. But all of that, despite being true, still
doesn't mean that the NCABLEA should have the ability to tell you you can't go
and play at this school. Like, I get both sides of it.
It is going to be chaotic, and it is going to be at times,
like you know, laughable as far as how many schools these guys end
up playing for, Like that's true, and coaches if they wanted to walk
away because they just feel like it's completely you know, a different job now
because of this specifically, I get it, But what right does the NCAA
have to tell you that you can't play where you want to play. I
mean, if I'm in the band and I'm I'm playing the saxophone, is
the saxophone in the pet band? If not, they need to put it
in. They should. You need a little bit of sacks I think is
good in all aspects in all music. But anyways, if I'm playing the
saxophone at Louisville and I decid, you know, I want to transfer to
Indiana and play the saxophone in their band, They're not gonna. I mean,
there's never a world they would have told me I had to sit out.
Why because as I play football when I need to set out, So
I'm not surprised by this at all. To be honest with you, I
guess the only way, and this may not even be correct, but the
only way that you can maybe hope that your player sticks around is if they're
in an nil contract, I mean contracts so to speak. On'll know how
the legal how all that works necessarily, yeah, but if they're not going
to get a certain amount of their money because they transfer, that could be
something that keeps players from jobble. That already, that's already why some guys
were late to hit the portal, if you remember, because yes, they
were going to wait. So if if you know, I'm as guilty as
anybody for just assuming when they become when they become employees, there won't be
any nil not because you know it gets rid of it, but no,
you're still going to have that. It may not be as lucrative, but
it's still going to be a component, There's no doubt about it. But
one thing that I think is even Greg Sanki, who, to be honest
with you, I think you can make the claim that he might as well
be running college athletics, maybe ruining it in the eyes of some. But
one thing that comes up all the time is and this is a Greg Sankie
quote from I guess the SEC meetings over the weekend or earlier this week.
Greg Sankie was asked about collectively bargaining with athletes, which he says would require
employment. Sankee's quote was, I've not had a student athlete come to me
and say I want to be taxed like an employee. That is a dumb
thing to say for somebody in his position, because what that says is that
you have to you be taxed as in anile employee too. I mean,
I guess you're not an employee. But like it's like Greg Sankie thinks if
we let them make money all through nil and not as employees, they don't
have to pay taxes on it. They do. I mean, I mean,
I don't know if they're going to, but like if you're a college
athlete and you made six figures and you didn't claim any of that as earnings,
you're going to get a call from uncle saying, I mean, that's
just you know, that's that's that you have to do that. In fact,
it was Mit Winter, who runs Winter Sports Law. Here's what he
responded to to Ross Ellingser who shared that quote from Sankie College. Athletes may
or not, may or may not end up being employees. The courts will
decide, but this talking point needs to be retired. It has zero bearing
on the legal analysis and taxes are paid, whether they're paid as independent contractors
through nil or employees with athletic performance. So I think the thought of these
guys being employees just scares everybody within like the universities, the conferences, and
I get it because it would be I mean, it just sounds weird,
but in the end it may be maybe the best way to go. All
right, So this I would say right now, not that I have my
finger on the pulse of what is the most you know, popular viral video
on the Internet, but this has got to be up there right now because
it's all I'm seeing people sharing all over Twitter. TikTok Instagram. I know
Barstool Sports shared it and it had millions and millions of views. And it
is h is somebody who was on a court like FaceTime call, which I
didn't know this, but it's apparently really common now to you you can have
your court like case and not have to go into the courtroom like you can
do it via zoom. I know this because I watch a lot of the
like somebody will clip a judge losing his mind on somebody or a defendant,
you know, getting in trouble and getting reprimanded and getting you know, a
warrant put out for the arrest because they're mouthing off to the judge. And
I see a lot of those videos on on TikTok and sometimes they're actually really
funny. And this judge here in this case is actually somebody that I've seen
before that just pops up on my on my timeline. But this guy,
uh, he joined his zoom hearing for a suspended driver's license while actively driving
and he did not even think about it. I mean, this is this
is insane. He didn't have a license and he was just driving something at
her up possibly the four weeks at the court would allow. So maybe I
don't understand something. This is the driving want of license suspended? That is
correct, your owner, and he was just driving and he didn't have a
license. The look on this guy's face, Ah, that is what the
charges your honer. Yes, no, I'm looking at his record. He
doesn't have a license, he's suspended and he's just driving. That is correct,
your inner. That's his attorney, by the way. Oh, I
don't even know why he would do that. So defendant's bond is revoked.
In this manner, defendant is turned himself into the Washington kind of deal by
six pm today. Failure to turn himself in while we result in the bench
for it with no bond. I mean, that's up there as like one
of the dumbest criminals of all time, right in his facial expression. If
you've seen the video, he just looks so like, how dumb could I
have actually been to do this? Had I never seen these type of videos
before where they you know, there's like and I guess this is a more
efficient way to handle court for like non serious violations, like non violent stuff
like, but I mean I would have thought it was fake because who could
be that dumb because you're you're literally seeing the judge because of your suspended driver's
license. And then you know, I didn't play the beginning of it,
but he's driving kind of like tell you know the judge wouldn't you know,
didn't want to talk, and while he's driving because it would be dangerous,
He's like, Jimmy, just a second, I'm about to park and be
stationary. And then you know, it never dawned on this this guy,
who of course you know, is driving while suspended, that that would be
a bad look. I mean, you might have been able to play it
off if he's just sitting in the car, but he was quite literally driving
the vehicle while he was on a zoom call with with the judge. Which
have you seen many of those clips of like the Zoo cases. But when
I when I saw this one, I guess it was yesterday. I thought
the the victim, but the criminal, I thought he was like trolling.
I thought he was like just seeing what the judge would do. Yeah,
I mean, so one thing that I don't I have a comfortable fear of
of you know, authority, meaning like you know, I don't ever want
to go in front of a judge for any reason. I so I don't,
you know, thankfully, because I've not been in any trouble legally,
I don't really know a lot about the process. But what blows my mind
is there'll be people on there that are unhappy with like a child support agreement
or unhappy with, you know, not getting to stay out on probation because
they violate a probation with like a failed drug test, and they'll get all
upset and they're not in front of the judge. They're just on a zoom
call and they'll start mouthing off to the judge, and the judge will say,
Okay, you know you're in contempt. There's gonna be ah, there's
gonna be a warrant out for your arrest. But I don't know if it's
like a bench worn or an arrest warrant I really I want. And there's
a difference between the two. One of them is to where they're not out
there looking for you. But if they do, ever, if they you
know, when they find you, you got to go in like there's a
warran out for you arrest. Like sometimes you have a warrant out for you
arrest and people are just looking for you, like it's become a high priority.
But it's if I, you know, back talked, which I never
would if I back talked the judge and I started getting mauby and you know
it was being a jerk, and they helped me in contempt and added charges
and said something about a war. Mean, be scared to death. But
I guess if you're not violent and you're you know, you've not I guess,
I mean, you're not a priority to where they're going to use police
resources to go hunt you down, you know what I mean. Like,
it's just this doesn't make me feel like I should probably start breaking the law
and maybe I can get away with it and avoid jail. But it just
like, I don't know, like to see the to see the lack of
fear or concern knowing that they're getting themselves in trouble is just something that I
can't really relate. They're used to it exactly. I mean, that's exactly
what it is. That's exactly what it is. It's that they've you know,
they've they've been there, done that. You know, there's a reason
that they're in front of the judge. I mean a lot of these a
lot of these cases specifically, is somebody who has been in trouble and then
got in trouble again, like and that's why they're in front of the judge
because you were out on probation. Why do you break your probation? Why
didn't you check in with your parole officer or something like that. And there's
a lot of violations that are not for a criminal offense. It's just for
not abiding by what you have to specifically do as someone who you know the
law. But sometimes I'll just get lost in one of those TikTok channels that
has nothing but these court cases because some of these judge, these judges are
hilarious and also some of the criminals are you know, hilariously stupid as far
as just like you know, probably feels like real life Judge Judice. Yeah,
like it reminds me of a liar or liar when Jim Carrey, you
know, stop breaking the law ahole, Like you know, sometimes that I
can tell like another part of it that that I enjoy because when you go
to judge, like Judge Judy is you know, purely entertainment. And I
love Judge Judy, but in these cases, I mean, they're real and
also these are people who are not suing somebody in civil court. They're suit
like they're they're they're facing a judge for criminal charges, meaning they have a
defense attorney. And the amount of times I can just see the defense attorney
like tense and rolling their eyes is because they know that the client like,
I'm trying to defend you. I am trying to get you know, have
this situation work out the best way possible. And you can't get out of
your own way. I wish you would just shut the hell up. And
yeah, it's you know, I'm I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff,
the true crime, criminal stuff. I'm a nerd for it. All
right, let's go to the phone. One five two five is the number
if you guys would like to jump in and join us. Let's go to
Scott. Scott, you're on Sports Talk seven ninety. What's happening and not
much? Just wanted to comment on what you said about that one guy saying
that athletes will be able to transfer each year. Yeah, and he's saying
that they're not. They're not going to be able to keep him from doing
that. Well, there's got to be some type of not penalty, but
an endpoint because if you can't keep me from transferring as often as I want,
which I think is why coach k retired and Nick Saban I think there
they saw the writing on the wall of how chaotic this is going to be?
But why And then you made a good comment if you wanted to transfer
from playing saxophone, they're not going to say anything. So how can they
keep me from what to play more than four years? If that's a rule,
then they have to come up with some real to keep you from transferring
over over over again. Yeah, I mean, heck, you never know.
That's actually I'd never thought of that, Scott, but that's a good
point. Like maybe you could just take them to court because they keep losing,
meaning the NCUBLEA, and say, hey, instead of four years,
it's going to take me six to do my degree because I'm not as good
as a student, So why can't I'm still in school? Why can't I
play for six? Like that? I mean, I don't know if we'll
ever see that, but yeah, I mean n Sublea has really has less
power than they've ever had, and that's proven out here. But yeah,
I mean I think it is not gonna be. I mean, if I'm
a coach, I mean, there's no doubt about it. It's a different
job now. But again, I just think it comes back to do they
have the right to tell you you can't trans because again, what these guys
can say is look, hey, and they can lie. I'm actually going
to transfer this school, not because of nil or really even because of basketball,
but it's because they've got this program here that I really really want to
pursue. And we would all know that's nonsense. But I guess technically,
you know, you can't prove that's not why they're doing it. Right,
Well, exactly what? Oh gosh, the the UK kid, the freshman
that went from South Carolina back to Kentucky. He was the incoming freshman.
Yeah, the incoming freshman. What is his name, Noah something? Noah,
Yeah, Yeah. He said he wanted to open up his options and
he mentioned he wanted to get closer to home. Well, he mentioned three
schools, but we all knew, so, I mean, he just to
get out of that letter of intent. But like you said, it's gonna
take me six years or whatever, and so why can't it Well, hell,
what about someone like you know, you mentioned the movie Liar Lyra about
Tommy Boy. You know, he was in college for like twelve years.
What if he wanted to just continually play football and be like, look,
I just want to go get a marketing degree and then I want to get
a doctorate degree and just keep playing football. Yes, there's got to be
somewhere. There's got to be a not a tipping well maybe a tipping point,
but something that's you're like, all right, enough enough, now I'm
with you. What's the transfer rule now? And that you get one free
one and then after that you have to sit out. No, they've so
it was the NC double A. The big big change was they gave you
one you get one transfer that was like two years ago, and then kids
who transferred a second time started fighting it and they won. So it led
it led to it being kind of a free for all, and they were
going to try to get there, you know, try to get some kind
of a plan together. But it sounds as if from like a legal standpoint,
I mean, n S double A just is being told you don't You
cannot tell them they can't participate just because they want to go to a different
school, that they have to sit out, So I appreciate the call,
Scott. I think you're right. I mean, I'd never thought about that.
But if you are still in school and you haven't obtained your agree like
I mean, I think you should only be able to play four years.
I'm not advocating that they should let guys play for ten to twelve years,
but if you really want to just fight them on it, who knows,
maybe you'd win. It could be a situation where they could let you still
play, but maybe your scholarship runs out. Maybe you know, it could
be something like that. But you know, I could see I mean,
I could see a lawyer, a good one, not changing my mind on
it, but making a great case that says, look, why can I
only play for four years? I'm still in school. You know I didn't
finish my degree. You know I've I mean, I would imagine that if
you are following the academic if you're following the academic requirements and you're eligible,
that it would be hard for you to not be done with school. But
then again, I'm getting my second graduate degree. I want to get all
the degrees I can. Why can't I stick around? I mean, I
doubt we ever see that but again, I don't know if there's much that
would shock me as far as what people are going to try to challenge the
indstead of as far as what they are are, what they are and are
not allowed to do, and so far the NCAA keeps losing. All right,
let's get to a quick break. We'll come back on the other side.
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