WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:31.600 Mmm, Hello, It's Mortal Kombat. Tuesday, April fourteenth, twenty fifteen. 2 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:35.600 Hold down low punch for thirty seconds, Okay, and then what happens. 3 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.920 I'm charving right now. Then let off and morph into Cantaro. I'll 4 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.479 let you know at the end of the gast what happens. And yeah, 5 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.320 and punch this I think it'll punch this guy in half. You hold on 6 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.079 the button for the entire the next the rest of the duration of this podcast. 7 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:49.759 This machine have kno morse turned on? Yeah, yeah, okay, 8 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.640 no transformations are in there. Okay, it's the new it's the new boards. 9 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:54.759 They put the new boards in. The guy came with the new boards 10 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:58.520 today. I love new boards, and so only use low kick for the 11 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:00.119 first eight matches. Yes, until you get to the portal. A friend 12 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:08.879 of mine said that he saw a Polar Bear fuck Johnny Cage to death repeated 13 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.480 totally. He just keeps going. That's really interesting because there aren't even any 14 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:15.200 backgrounds that have Polar Bears on. I know, but man, yeah, 15 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.680 the ideas coming out of Chicago or just crazy. This week, it's a 16 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:25.000 giant bomb cast. I'm Brad Shoemaker. Jeff Kersman, the Master of Mortal 17 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.840 Combat is here. Sure, Yeah, let's go with that. That's me 18 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:34.079 Debo Champion MK nine. Yes, I won the Fatal eight over the weekend. 19 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:40.439 Pretty excited about it. Mortal Kobat historian, preservationist, Yeah yeah, 20 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.200 I yes, I own a Mortal Kombat two board. That makes me a 21 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:46.200 preservation so do I. It's it's still in the cardboard box that it was 22 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.280 shipped to me in over ten years. I have a frisbee that says Mortal 23 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.879 Kombat three on it, so yes, I'm something of a Mortal Kombat preservations 24 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.319 historian and a Phisio Nado. Yeah, Jason a striker. Resident fighting game 25 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:04.400 dude, God, I raised them not very well. Resident resident player of 26 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.480 fighting games. Yeah, that's that's me. I play fighting games and I 27 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:09.560 did not know that we were in, you know, such a high steam 28 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:14.080 here with a Mortal Kombat frisbee. That's yeah. Yeah, I have a 29 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.960 frisbee. Wow, it's uh, it's pretty cool. I'm humbled to be 30 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.840 in the same room. I have a Mortal Kombat three T shirt that has 31 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.360 symbols for a combat code on it. When they did the ad campaign with 32 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:29.400 all the like the different numbers us pretty good combat code. They good shirts 33 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:32.319 for that. Oh geez, I don't remember, but it's one of the 34 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.960 things that you figure that out. And then it's number six as there's number 35 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.800 six in the empty spots. When you figure that out and it works in 36 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.159 the game as a combat code, then you're one digit closer to discovering the 37 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:46.319 ultimate combat code to unlocks were they were they showing the codes numerically, was 38 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.080 that like number the missing number? It would it would be the symbols, 39 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.159 the six symbols that you used for a combat code, But in the space 40 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:53.719 of one of them, it just said six. Okay, so that was 41 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.159 it was not six button presses. Then, no, it was not. 42 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.360 It was something else. But then you knew that that was the sixth character 43 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:05.360 of the Ultimate Combat Code to unlock Smoke. They had a bunch of different 44 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.639 ads and a bunch of different magazines that revealed the numbers go by one. 45 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.560 You could just put it together and eventually people put it together or put it 46 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:14.159 together enough of them that they then brute forced the rest of it or whatever 47 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:15.520 it was. And this was for the arcade version, right man. This 48 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:20.319 adds in magazines for arcade machines. Yeah, this is human smoke right, 49 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.159 no, no, this is smoke smost cyber smoke yeah, okay, which 50 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.840 was not selectable by default in three. I had to call a pay hint 51 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:30.159 line and pay like eighteen bucks to figure out how to get I think cyber 52 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.560 smoke on Genesis. Yeah, it's just so much easier now. You just 53 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:37.479 pay a dollar ninety nine online and total that's almost it's almost half the price 54 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.319 of the game. You can buy a bunch of fatality tokens for them, 55 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:43.479 yeah, or you could unlock the entirety of the crypt for just nineteen ninety 56 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.319 nine. There you go, and that's hell in residence. Dan reichert, 57 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.039 Hey, how's it going. Hello? I like Mortal Kombat two okay, 58 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.479 two as in as well not yes, I mean and two well two yeah 59 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:58.439 yeah. In addition to pick two is the second best color me somewhat shocks 60 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.159 that you have the correct opinion on Mortal Yeah. Two is incredible. Yeah, 61 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.520 two is a great game. And then three came out and you're like, 62 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.360 man, this game is so much better. Freeze right up there. 63 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:10.240 Two. Actually, when three came out, it was like, well, 64 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.159 this is cool too, And then when Ultimate came out, you're like okay, 65 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.199 now, yeah, then they finished the game. Yeah, put scorpion. 66 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.600 They put Scorpion in. You're like, all right, how did they 67 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:21.959 ship Mortal Combat game without Scorpion? You know, they went for their Street 68 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:28.360 Fighter three moment. Yeah. Sure, and and just like Street Fighter three 69 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.839 did, eventually said all right, They're like, ah, we can't keep 70 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.600 up this facade. Put these people in here, but no Johnny Cage. 71 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:36.319 That guy was in that ad and fuck him? Yea god right, yeah. 72 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:44.920 Daniel Pasina drama mid nineties digitized fighting game arcade drama, digitized martial artist 73 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:48.560 drama. What was the deal was it? It wasn't Tattoo Assassin was Storm. 74 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:55.279 It was him and the who sung pack? Right? I think there'd 75 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:59.759 It was just it was just Dan Pasina, okay, wearing glasses and striking 76 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.959 of a cage like pose. People. People don't know. This was a 77 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:08.639 like a slight exodus of Mortal Kombat actors to another game. Yeah, if 78 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:10.839 they're not up on the history of the stuff, yeah, I don't know 79 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.319 if they appeared in the game. Well did they? I thought I thought 80 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.319 they were. They were just doing stands yea, oh god, that's kind 81 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:21.720 of worse somehow. Yeah, geez. I don't remember for sure if they 82 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.040 were in the game. I don't think they were, but it's possible. 83 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:30.079 But but yeah, that led to them replacing Hong Pack with was it Robin 84 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.720 Eddie? Isn't it Eddie somebody? I'm pretty sure his first name is Eddie. 85 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.279 That was Robin show but maybe that's the Maybe sure that played him in 86 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:39.720 the movie is okay, then it's what whoever? I don't remember the name 87 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:43.480 of I'm gonna say Eddie somebody. The MK three Luke Kang actor. Sorry, 88 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.759 Pack ended up in u W MC Masters. I have a I have 89 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:53.160 a super He played Superstar. I have a Superstar figure. That's where I 90 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.759 was at at my life at the time. Was that his like his special 91 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.800 superhero name. Yeah, every week all had characters? Does that show? 92 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.399 And was that show basically a martial arts version of American Gladiators. That show 93 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:08.360 was basically professional wrestling, but they just did fake martial arts fights and they 94 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.160 drew fighting game health bars on the screen and then at the end of it, 95 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.319 at the end of it, there would be like a fight where they 96 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.079 would fight in a dome to see who got the belt. They had a 97 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:24.279 belt. What was the name of this WMAC Masters that's on YouTube. There's 98 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:28.879 and then so two characters would eventually and these fights would be like you know, 99 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.000 they staged them on like locations, on sound stages or whatever. It 100 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:34.040 would be like there's smoky stuff here, like little backgrounds. It wasn't just 101 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.079 all presented as real martial arts or whatever. But then they would get in 102 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:43.040 a giant dome that was impenetrable and fight in the dome, and then a 103 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.480 voice would come on later, go ninjas penetrate the dome, and then a 104 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.519 bunch of fucking ninjas would run in and fight them while they were fighting each 105 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:53.759 other. That's where that came from. I've heard that phrase. Yeah, 106 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:56.199 how I never heard of this show. That sounds amazing. And then at 107 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.399 the end of it, Linda Lee, Bruce Lee's daughter, would come on 108 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:03.839 and say, but martial arts is all about inner strength, as my father 109 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:10.079 Bruce Lee used to say. And it was just like every single whatever fucking 110 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:15.240 platitude she had was always like my father, Bruce Lee, he's Bruce Lee 111 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.680 checks out. And they had like ongoing they tried to have an ongoing storyline 112 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:25.439 like they were trying to miss Style Fighting Game TV show sort of thing for 113 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.319 the health bars functional. They would get hit every time they see them lose, 114 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:30.959 Yeah, they would, they would animate. Was there a crowd, 115 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.600 No, I don't think so. I think there was a crowd for the 116 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:38.639 final the fight in the dome, I could. I'm sure I'm misremembering some 117 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:40.959 parts of this stuff. Was the dome fight a rumble or was it one 118 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.720 on It was one on one and then the Ninjas would penetrate the dome and 119 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:48.279 then the Ninjas would leave the dome later Ninja leave the dome and or the 120 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.839 ninjas they're just fuck shut up, like just getting the way. Yeah they 121 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:54.480 were there, Yeah, exactly. They were there to fight and hit both 122 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:59.439 both guys and you know, it's rough. Any other names involved in that 123 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:03.720 thing in terms of the fighters, Well, the daughter of Bruce Lee was 124 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.639 no. Okay, host Unpack is the biggest name that roster. That's I 125 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.519 mean, maybe if you go back now, maybe one of them was doing 126 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.519 something else. I mean I could, I could dig into this real quick 127 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.680 here, but yeah, it was. It was short lived, but it 128 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.240 lasted long enough for them to make action figures. Oh. Chris Cassa Massa, 129 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.879 otherwise known as Scorpion a little combat movie. Wait, really, okay, 130 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:30.680 was in that show? I guess I'm talking early nineties here, Like 131 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.120 what time period is this ninety five to ninety seven? Apparently it would have 132 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.159 been Prime Time? Like what channel was this on? I've been indicated it 133 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.399 was. It was a four Kids, but I don't think we had him 134 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.840 where I lived. That's right. The Dragon Star that was the belt that 135 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.279 they got or whatever. It was pretty cool name. It was a gold 136 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.039 trophy that looked like a shuriken surrounded by a dragon, the proof that it's 137 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.360 holder was the best martial artist in the world. I remember it being a 138 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.679 belt. Maybe maybe it was a dumb thing that you held that looked like 139 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.240 it probably should have been a belt. Did they ever get a game out 140 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.440 of this? No? No, it didn't last long enough. Did not 141 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.120 last long enough at all. You gonna go back and catch up? Yeah, 142 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:07.399 that sounds perfect. I found a full episode on YouTube the other day, 143 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.200 so yeah, I'm totally gonna characters like a red Dragon, Tsunami, 144 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:15.720 great Wolf, Warlock, tiger Claw, panther, man Yin Yang man Yin 145 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:20.840 Yang. There's some top shelf secret code names for martial artists. Kid Carmichael, 146 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.720 the machine kid car Michael's pretty good. And then there'd be matches for 147 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:30.000 the Dragon Star every week as a Carmichael with a k uh it was, 148 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:31.440 it was you would have to get full Dragon that's right. So the Dragon 149 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.879 Star held symbols for the other fighters, and you'd have to beat the other 150 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:37.600 fighters to get their symbol and add it to the belt like you were collecting 151 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:43.000 the Dragon balls or an infinity. Yeah, basically, and and so you 152 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.720 would get the full Dragon Belt, the full Dragon Star or whatever. Did 153 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.080 you lose them once you had gotten them? Like that guy beat you. 154 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.240 I don't think the show lasted long enough to really explore a lot of that 155 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.000 stuff. The Wikipedia pages has a section called ninjas. There were many different 156 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.799 types of ninjas that appear in the show, most of them specific to a 157 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.840 battle zone. Were the color coded. There were black ninjas, there were 158 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:11.080 kabuky ninjas, ghost Town ninjas, blood ninjas, Camo ninjas, Hazard ninjas, 159 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.559 and Juketo yellow ninjas or blue ninjas. Doesn't look like it, doesn't 160 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:20.519 look like it, Juketo. We're friends of Warlock anyway. Great, So 161 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.799 I always assumed that they recast as unpack because of or you know, they 162 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:26.519 recast lu King because of some kind of like a bad blood or something. 163 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.080 But maybe he just bounced. Maybe he was like, I'm gonna go to 164 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.840 TV now. I don't need your Arcade game anymore. I have I have 165 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.080 no idea what the actual situation with that stuff was. At this point, 166 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.600 that stuff has kind of gone. Sure, it is not my memory anymore, 167 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.399 thankfully, some Mortal Kombat historian you are, Sometimes you have to know 168 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.639 when to let go. I never watched the live action TV show or the 169 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:50.840 cartoon that much so about the web series. I did not watch the web 170 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:56.279 series for the same reasons that I did not watch the TV shows. Oh 171 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.960 Mortal Kombat, like I see was that? Was that that reason? I've 172 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.879 I heard it was pretty good too, just one where everyone's like got normal 173 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.080 jobs like scorpion, some office manager or something. They all look like normal 174 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.279 dudes. It was like a Batman Begins esque reboots. Yeah, it like, 175 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.200 let's ground this thing in actual reality. I watched that first video and 176 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.080 I was like, oh man, that's awesome if that would be real. 177 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.879 And then once it was clearly it wasn't that it was just fan fiction, 178 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:18.480 I'm like, okay, well, fuck this, Yeah, because it was 179 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.279 right before the E three reveal of nine, and I remember people thinking it 180 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.039 was some nether Realm like viral thing like oh, this is what the new 181 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.840 Mortal Combat would be like, and yeah, like that would have been neat 182 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.799 if it panned out that way, but the second it didn't, no interest 183 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.639 in noah and they're fucking weird things. And then the actual thing they did 184 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:35.360 with nine was actually great. Yeah, so yeah, I feel like that's 185 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:39.519 a whole subgenre now, like they did somebody did that for Power Rangers a 186 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.159 few months ago. Yeah, that was kind of like just like short, 187 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.879 short fan films of like, let's take this thing we grew up with and 188 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.080 like here's you know, everyone in LA that is not a like a busy 189 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.559 working actor just has nothing but fucking time between auditions. So they just get 190 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.120 together and shoot weird shit like that's kind of cool. But didn't Legacy turn 191 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.000 into an official thing? They did. They got it in and said like 192 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.279 let's keep making this, and they made like two runs of it or whatever 193 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:01.080 it was. But yeah, I didn't want to any I mean, you 194 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:05.360 know, the movies were official too. Yeah, that didn't mean they were 195 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.279 fucking good or the first. First one's all right, good, first one 196 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.679 is no theirs, No, it's all right. I didn't say great. 197 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.879 I didn't even say right somebody who just bought it on Blu ray. I 198 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.480 will defend that movie. Let's say that I don't own a fucking home. 199 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.720 I don't own a copy of that. I saw that ship in theaters and 200 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.639 said fuck this. Yeah, and I went and saw Armageddon with a friend 201 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.399 of mine. He left, wait, second one, Yeah it was the 202 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.759 game. Yeah. Yeah. I rented that on VHS and watched half of 203 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.960 it and was like totally like that. A friend who like basically got to 204 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.080 like the first like stop motion fucking puppet monster. When I'm out Animalties, 205 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.320 I'll be in the fucking lobby. I think who wasn't that had the vision 206 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.840 quest in the Desert? It was Luke Kang and I think it was I 207 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:48.559 think it was like around the time that Luke Kang was eating peyote in the 208 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.480 Desert was I was like, I can't do this anymore. Yeah. I 209 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:54.240 think that's an age thing because I remember like seeing that in the theater and 210 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.600 being like yeah, like I left. I super wanted to get more into 211 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:00.240 like Mortal Kombat lower and stuff. Doesn't he turn into the dry I get 212 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:05.559 in that one though? Yeah, there's any Yeah, yeah, that first 213 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.559 one I would say surpassed expectations. Yeah, this is how I would put 214 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.440 it. I guess it's better than I don't know. I don't know. 215 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:16.799 It's no DA movie. Well what is I'm not going to watch that. 216 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.840 I've decided really, yeah, we should watch it with like Jamie Pressley or 217 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:22.799 something. Yeah, Nash isn't it too? Is in it? Yeah? 218 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:28.080 I thought that came out yours. Yeah, okay, and then I don't 219 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.919 know. I'll take the Street Fighter movie. There was a tech on opening 220 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.639 day Christmas. Uh, I forget, I wish. Yeah, but I 221 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:39.360 went to the press conference at Capcom's US headquarters where they had like Grant bush 222 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.919 Or and some of the other actors, none of the ones he wanted to 223 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.720 meet, No, but no, actually actually just wanted to meet the dude 224 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.600 to play ball rock because he was the guy from die Hard that says I 225 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.759 was in junior high dickhead like that, So we were psyched to meet him 226 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.480 and everybody else. Kylie Minogue who cares, no Raoul, Julia no, 227 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:58.080 no Ul, no Jean Claude at Van Damn. Yeah. Did Raoul die 228 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.039 right after filming and before the movie came? I would believe that's the case. 229 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.279 Yeah, Yeah, there's a you know, the end credits mentioned him 230 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:09.200 right right right. I think films something halfway through, something like a man 231 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.159 in a cage or something like that. I forget, but he was. 232 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:15.480 He was an accomplished Yes, and to have that be his last fully completed 233 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:20.279 piece of work. Did they digitize life into m BIS? Yeah? Did 234 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.679 they digitize him for Street Fighter the movie? The game? I believe they 235 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.279 had done that work already. He did, but he was the one doing 236 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:31.559 the moves in studio, you know, I guess I don't know. Yeah, 237 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.960 we were talking about that game last week, but now we extra need 238 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:35.879 to get that thing out. Yeah. I've never seen a whole lot of 239 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.080 that game before. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it in. Should we should 240 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.440 play that? It's definitely something that we need to document. It's a strange 241 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.240 thing. I played way more of it than I should have, just because 242 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.399 it came out so early on the Saturn and PlayStation that there wasn't that much 243 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.799 else to play for fighting games. I played in the Arcade a lot. 244 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.600 Actually, yeah, there was a drought between like Mortal Kombats and stuff, 245 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:58.440 and yeah that came in and we're like, all right, fuck it, 246 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:03.919 we'll play the Yeah for a few weeks. Fighting games into movies. I 247 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.639 have kind of a checkered past. Uh, what's the best one? Do 248 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.279 we have a unanimous best one? I think first Mortal Kombat's gotta be up 249 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.440 there. It's the other way actually good or is that like funny good? 250 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.399 It's funny good and they're aware of it as well. Okay, like it's 251 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.840 it's not unintendedly. No, it's not, say like the street Fighter two 252 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.000 V series is. Maybe it's not a movie at that point, but yeah 253 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.120 that's animated. Yeah, okay, that's like the first street Fighter animal. 254 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:28.080 I can't I can't keep track of those. I've seen one, and I'm 255 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.399 not sure which it is because every time I would go like type in street 256 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.840 Fighter anime, like eight different things. Street Fighter two V was I don't 257 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:41.600 know, TV twelve episodes or something like that. Yeah, and you know 258 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.720 it was appropriately dragon ball ish in some spots where it's just like here'shere you 259 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:50.480 and Ken staring each other, fucking charging up fireballs, just just making like 260 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.759 breathless comments about their power, about their power levels, you know that type 261 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:56.960 of ship. Yeah, it was like a weird reboot on the on the 262 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:02.159 story of Everybody. I didn't like it that much. But and then there's 263 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:07.519 that weird US Street Fighter cartoon that was like the fucking g I Joe style 264 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.159 fucking wow, I didn't stuff that Stuff's a nightmare. Guy like built up 265 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:15.600 a sonic boom for half an episode and just like whatever the building is fucking 266 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.960 ridiculous. Sounds kind of great. Fighting games into more fighting games, However, 267 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.320 the fighting games begat fighting games, Yes, fighter, street Fighters, 268 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:32.360 sagot more street Fighter, yes exactly. Uh, there's a new Mortal Kombat 269 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.960 game out there? Is that did happen out this week? The tenth game 270 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.320 Mortal Kombat X. Yes, the tenth Mortal Combat game. Do we have 271 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.519 to call it X or do we do? That? Is? That is 272 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.120 the official alright? I still when I read the title in my mind, 273 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.840 I still hear Mortal Kombat ten. And when you like when the PC version 274 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.440 crashes and leaves it running in the task bar, it is called MK ten. 275 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:57.440 Really like one zero taught e XC or something. It doesn't even stay 276 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.159 in my task bar. It just disappears comp whenever I try to do anything. 277 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.799 The first time I left it running and didn't actually like hit the button 278 00:17:03.920 --> 00:17:07.240 to make it crash, and it actually just went to a black screen and 279 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.160 I had to force kill it. And then that's when I got to see, 280 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.960 Okay, I am hearing consistently poor things about this PC port. It's 281 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:19.680 not a game, you know. It's yeah, yeah, it's but during 282 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.680 day one it is not a video game. It is a thing you download 283 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.119 and then is a menu and you push fight and then it like immediately drops 284 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.200 the desktop. Are we at the point where we're just expecting games to launch 285 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:32.640 non functional one day one now? Like, I don't think we can quite 286 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.440 forgive that yet, right, No, I don't. I don't think that's 287 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.960 not expecting it. But I'm sup we're not surprised. I think there are 288 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.359 there are reasonable technical issues that you can look at and go like, well, 289 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:47.119 that's the circumstance outside of the game's control to some extent, like the 290 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.920 when Steam fucked up because GTA was big. Yeah, that's something you look 291 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.640 at and go like, well, that sucks, and that's fucked up on 292 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:57.200 someone's part for a game that I purchased, but uh, you know, 293 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:00.559 at least that's like you look at and going, well, it's a popular 294 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.640 thing. The servers get hit hard Mortal Kombat launching in a way where it 295 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:08.160 doesn't download the complete game, and then is well they had they had like 296 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.599 kind of good intentions with that, right, so they kind of preload a 297 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.039 little bit and then lets you start it. Kind of yeah, what if 298 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.359 you just want to preload the entire thing. Yeah, they wouldn't let you 299 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.799 preload, Like the preload was three gigs, and then as soon as you 300 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:23.759 launched it, the theory was it would then trigger the rest of the download. 301 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:27.440 But then that never happened, so the rest of the game wasn't there 302 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.039 or something. It tells you when you go in, when you get to 303 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.920 the menu screen the snowy woods and all that stuff, it says, okay, 304 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.920 so you've downloaded like this three gig thing packs one through twenty nine will 305 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.680 be available in streaming in the background or whatever. But then you go check 306 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:42.599 Steam and nothing's downloading whatsoever. Right, But then on top of that, 307 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.480 they say, like with that three gigs, you'll be able to go into 308 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:47.640 practice mode and go to mode somebody. You can't even do that. It 309 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:48.920 just it is just nothing. It is not a game you can't do and 310 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:52.039 play a video game. Wow, I think I thought I figured you could 311 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.240 at least do. There are menus that you can look at and then hit 312 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.799 play and it and it crashed and it's unh So so it's clarify. We 313 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.119 were courting this on Tuesday morning, so we're just what a few hours out 314 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:04.640 from that thing unlocking? When did it unlock? It unlocked Hit nine last 315 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.680 night, not Monday night. That was. That was me at like eleven 316 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:08.920 o'clock last night, midnight last night, going like, all right, let's 317 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:11.759 look at the PC version it finished downloading. Oh wait, not a game. 318 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:15.160 I tried this morning too, and yeah, yeah you can like you 319 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.240 can highlight training or single fight and you can hit a and then it just 320 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.839 immediately crashes the whole. That's a huge bummer because the PC poort and nine 321 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.559 was pretty good, right, yeah, yeah, there was. Yeah, 322 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:27.880 there's some weird is shoes with some stuff and the net code was but so 323 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:32.480 yeah after and didn't Justice come out on PC? Yes, yeah, yeah, 324 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:33.759 so like they've got two PC games under the belt. Now, I 325 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.839 figured I Voltage did the work on both those. I believe they did nine 326 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.000 they did, they did X as well. So I so, you know, 327 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:42.599 I saw a couple months ago the PC version was coming out day and 328 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.279 date with console, and I was like, all right, great, they've 329 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.160 they've they're up to speed on PC. They are going to serve the PC 330 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.960 community right alongside the console. They served them. Damn y'all got served. 331 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:59.200 Motherfucker's got served. It sucks. That's a shame. I figured that was 332 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:02.200 like a vote of confidence in their ability to manage a PC port. Yeah, 333 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:03.960 yeah, I don't know why they would choose this game too, Like 334 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:07.720 we're gonna debut this streaming thing else you play it sooner, like if that's 335 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:14.240 a Steam thing overall, or if this is something Warner wanted to do and 336 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:17.119 they both collaborated to make that work. Yeah, But like the thing is, 337 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:18.839 like if you're going to preload the game, it needs to preload the 338 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.559 entire thing, Like I understand like the nature of like, hey, you 339 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:26.559 can play it while it's still downloading, like that makes some amount of sense 340 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:29.720 or may it needs to work though, and be it should be something that 341 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.559 is only active after the game's out right like if people want to download the 342 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:33.400 hole, what is a thirty gig? Yeah, something like that. If 343 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.480 you want to preload all that, then just let them do it. Yes, 344 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:40.039 that's messed up, yep? Is it? Is that? Just the 345 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:42.039 issue that that it won't download anything else? Like if it were to download 346 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:45.559 everything, I do we think it would work? I don't. I don't 347 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.440 know. I don't know. The menu screen seems to work, that's the 348 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.960 only men It's a pretty menu and then like that snowy background, it's I 349 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:59.799 guess my depth field. The menus still call the controller config wireless controller configuration 350 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.200 like it was a PS four, and changing that configuration also crashes against Wow. 351 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.680 Yeah, rad, Yeah, I've got a friend on on Twitter that 352 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.279 actually he's he doesn't have the menus available to him. He double checked to 353 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.200 make sure that all of that DLCL twenty nine of those things are installed, 354 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.559 They're all checked. He still doesn't have that shit available. I have no 355 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:21.200 idea what is going on? So he actually pulled the downloads. Yes, 356 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:26.799 he checked the install and it's all there posted screen shot ship two characters available 357 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.000 and everything crashes when he tries to pick man, it's cool, what's going 358 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.640 on I'm really glad I didn't spend time in trying to play that last night. 359 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:37.279 Yeah. Well, hey, that's a bumpy one. It's out on 360 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.559 console, yes, yeah, yeah, it works good there. Yeah, 361 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.880 I've been playing the PlayStation four version for a chunk of time. Here. 362 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.079 It's solid. You guys all seem fairly fond of it. Yeah, yeah, 363 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:51.720 yeah, it's cool. Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot to 364 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:52.839 it, kind of like they did with nine. Uh, you know, 365 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:57.279 they made some some tweaks and changes to just kind of the basics of fighting, 366 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.920 added a few little systems here and there, but it's generally the same 367 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:04.920 as the previous game. Sure, yeah, plays pretty similarly. Yeah, 368 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:08.720 absolutely, Yeah, lots of chains. Uh. They added that new stamina 369 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:11.359 meter. I'm not too fond of that. We can probably go into that 370 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:17.279 a little bit for running. That's for running interactables. Yeah, like the 371 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:22.240 Injustice style background interaction is in here and that will chip it. That'll take 372 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.119 a segment of your stamina meter. Does nine have running at all? No, 373 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:27.240 no added forward dashes and this has that as well. But if you 374 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:32.000 forward dash and then hit block, you'll break into a run, which is 375 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:33.519 super awkward, which is Yeah, that's an awkward way to control it, 376 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.920 Like it fucks me up constantly. You said you were like accidentally initiating the 377 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:42.079 run, right, because sometimes sometimes you dash forward and a block because there's 378 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.440 some shit coming your way, but you hit block and it starts you running 379 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.400 and you eat everything. So you have to double tap block or block it 380 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:52.960 down. You know, there's like like block is getting to interrupt the run 381 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:56.599 this Yeah, that sounds really inelegant totally if there were guys think about maybe 382 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.400 if there was a run button. So you know, with the running over 383 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.119 just like forward dashings, you cannot block like while you're forward dashing, So 384 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:07.680 if you initiate a run, you can actually block sooner and you can attack 385 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:11.799 sooner and ship like that iver distance. Of course, you don't want to 386 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.119 close the gap as fast as you can if you want to keep up the 387 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.240 pressure. But I just trans that meter super quick. I haven't frequently had 388 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.400 enough distance between my opponent that I feel like a full dash is necessary, 389 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.799 Like I think like I haven't felt that, I haven't really felt the need 390 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.759 to run also, yeah, but yeah, and then like with the comboinders 391 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.160 that will that will knock them back farther than just yeah, if you you 392 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.680 have to run up and finish and then get a little couple yeah extra stuff 393 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.000 in. I guess the stamina thing hasn't bothered me because yeah, a, 394 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:41.000 I don't really run and be like when you are doing that environment interaction stuff. 395 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:44.759 It's not like constant, like you're not spamming that. Like there's not 396 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.480 like eight thousand old ladies that you can throw. There's one old lady you 397 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:48.640 throw, and then a little bit later you can find another thing to hop 398 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.759 charges as well. It's not like limited pard yeah yeah, but yeah, 399 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:57.119 I mean I've definitely like back dash twice and then like gone for a throw 400 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:02.039 like, oh I can't, I can't go, you know, because I've 401 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.079 just backdash twice, and that trains the entire meter. I guess that's for 402 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:07.799 me. It's not like like the running is not annoying, it's the or 403 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.839 like, yeah, I'm not like trying to run, I'm trying to forward 404 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.519 dash and then immediately block afterwards and then accidentally running. Yes, gotcha, 405 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.599 Okay, I'm not running on purpose because I'm not good enough at it to 406 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:22.799 chase down stuff for the combos and stuff yet and I might not ever be. 407 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.720 But I would have been okay with a dedicated run button. Yes, 408 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.759 now you're talking, Yeah, I mean that's what every moral combat game needs. 409 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:32.680 I mean there's no platform this thing's coming out on that doesn't have enough 410 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:36.440 buttons to accommodate a dedicated run button. You know, so they dedicated a 411 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:42.039 button to stance change, right, and correct me if I'm wrong. That 412 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:47.880 serves zero purpose. There's a trophy if you do a little dance as codal 413 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:52.480 Con, you get a Disco trophy. But stance change it is, there's 414 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.920 no he just flips his leg. You just flip your legs and it doesn't 415 00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:59.759 change anything about as far as I know. No, No, there are 416 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.119 some weird things where you know, you have a little more reach with some 417 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.559 characters. Wait, can everybody do this? Yeah, like a sort of 418 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:10.319 half asked stance change. I'm still not clear what you're talking about. Flip 419 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:14.000 your if your leg is forward? Which leg is forward? Okay? And 420 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:15.240 that works for everybody to see the mack of your character. You want to 421 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.720 see the friend. But that has nothing to do with the three fighting styles 422 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.720 you choose the match, right, No, it's not like Deadly Alliance and 423 00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:23.599 m K nine as well. Okay, Yeah, it's not like Deadly Alliance 424 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:27.279 where you're on the fly switching between these styles or whatever like anybody wants that. 425 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.559 No, no, no, it's just yeah, it has no effect 426 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.079 really at all, do you guys find the I mean, so, how 427 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.559 many characters are there? Twenty five counting Goro twenty four and the default right, 428 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.240 and then that's three different styles for each character, with each with its 429 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.880 own moves and combos and stuff like that. At some point there are a 430 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.079 lot of there are a lot of shared moves and stuff between characters. It's 431 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:51.640 not like it's a full rewride of their normals and everything. It's just you 432 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:56.039 know, hey, you might have this this set of three special moves with 433 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.359 this variation, or this one might make your normals have a sword. Uh, 434 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.720 and you know this one or this win sub zero can grab his ice 435 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.920 clone and throw it at you. It just seems like a lot to take 436 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.559 in and not because like I mean, you know, learning three different like 437 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:12.559 mostly that the similar move sets for a given characters not a big deal. 438 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.440 But it's more, you know, a lot of being good at a fighting 439 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.920 game is knowing how to deal with what they're throwing at you, not necessarily 440 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.039 executing what you can do, you know, So like all of a sudden, 441 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.000 that's like three times the number of things you need to learn to look 442 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.880 out for from your opponent, you know. Yeah, it's a little intimidation, 443 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.519 a lot Like it's hard to tell, you know, if you if 444 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:30.839 you're not familiar with the game, you know, and you're playing against somebody 445 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:34.480 who's sub zero, you don't know exactly what that variation does. So, 446 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.079 uh, yeah, there's a lot of variety, and I appreciate that. 447 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.480 Is that a good thing that generally you think? I think? So it's 448 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.680 gonna be toughest shit to balance this game, though, Yeah, I hear 449 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.880 they've got pro players coming in trying to balance stuff. But then again, 450 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.279 we saw over the weekend that the Fatal Eight tournament there's some broken shit going 451 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.960 on. Yeah. Yeah, who's who's the worst cul for it? So 452 00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.200 far? Aaron Black seems to be the worst. He's got a one one 453 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:00.319 two string, which is like you know, scure square triangle, and it 454 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.079 leaves him like plus six some block, which means that he can just keep 455 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.839 doing that over and over until the opponent doesn't block, and then he can 456 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.039 just finish this combo. So how that got out of QA, I have 457 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.799 no idea, but I think it may be patched by now. But still 458 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.359 just stuff like that, that's that's gonna slip through. I found some stuff 459 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:23.880 with Jung Kim which is pretty pretty annoying. Jung Jung Kim. Yeah what 460 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:29.880 I said, Kung Jin, No it's Jung Kim. No it is not. 461 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.920 It's I wrote down Jung Kim. You wrote down? What is it? 462 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:40.079 It's like kunglao. Oh yeah, I guess I totally. It's kunglaus 463 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.519 Son too, right, just like his cousin. Okay, so it's not 464 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:48.400 Kung's cousin Jung. I mean that Kung is probably the family name in the 465 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.960 systems, right right, right, Well that guy has some real good drop 466 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.519 kicks, right yeah, she's quite a bit which are very vulnerable afterwards. 467 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.480 They should probably get out of that habit. Yeah yeah, okay, well 468 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.359 if they if they blocked that first down kick thing, then yeah, you're 469 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.920 dead. It's the sort of thing that like you it's I feel like a 470 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.279 lot of people played smoke in MK nine and just like whipped up a bunch 471 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.920 of bullshit on people, and people didn't know what to expect and they ate 472 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.240 it up. And a lot of this Jung Kim stuff reminds me of that, 473 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.200 where it's like when you don't know what's coming at you. It's overheads 474 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:23.839 and fucking eyes lows and just all this shit and you're just like, it 475 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.759 doesn't stop coming. Uh, And once you kind of get a good read 476 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.799 on what that shit is, it's I think people will figure it out or 477 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.799 they won't, and you'll be able to you know, they'll always be new 478 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.079 players picking up the game forever. And as I did with Smoke, you 479 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:45.720 just fucking work motherfuckers stuff. It's valid, but it's ever. Everyone picks 480 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.680 Scorpion. Yeah, like that's the subtitle to the last couple of more like 481 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.839 to every Mortal Kombat game, right, Scorpion is the kin everyone comes to 482 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.799 Scorpion. I played about five of them last night. Yeah. Yeah, 483 00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.000 I know. It's not a brand new phenomenon, but still the idea of 484 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.400 post release balance and sing for fighting games kind of crazy to me. It's 485 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.960 essential, and it is so they can do it. They have an inline 486 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.680 system that lets them update the game without a proper console level patch, so 487 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.680 it'll just pull those same way, like playlist updates pull for Call of Duty. 488 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.680 It's it's essential to the longevity of the game. Yeah, you know, 489 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:22.480 I definitely wouldn't dispute that, but it's just it's something that I associate 490 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.359 more with like RTS games, and it's kind of traditionally PC focused franchises. 491 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.599 We see what like Call of Duty where it's like, oh, the shotguns 492 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:30.359 two pack, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, 493 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.359 it's just, you know, I don't know why there's a mental disconnect for 494 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.960 me with that stuff, but maybe changes used to come with, you know, 495 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.359 the new board Dad, that's I think that's kind of what it is 496 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.640 like, going all the way back to fighting games and arcades where it's like 497 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.640 what was on the board was what you got, you know, and it's 498 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.200 like if they put out new boards and great, but if not, like 499 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:51.440 you just kind of stuck with it. That's why they needed wave net, 500 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:55.160 man. Wave Net was gonna save everything was future. They let the future 501 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.799 pass them buy that's right. What do you guys think of the uh the 502 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.960 cast with a k of character? I uh, some of the new characters 503 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:07.359 are Cass Cage is pretty cool, Kung Gin there's pretty good, Kung In 504 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:12.839 Jimmy This Jimmy Kung Gin right there you go. Okay, kung Gin is 505 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.079 my favorite. Uh yeah, the look is kind of generic for him. 506 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.519 Yeah. I like Jackie Brad Briggs. Yeah, it's really cool. All 507 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:27.400 these teens have two man Yeah. Wait are they literal teenagers? Like sometimes? 508 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.480 Yeah, they're all a little spicy. I really don't like total Kno. 509 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:33.680 I don't think he's fun to play as at. I kind of like 510 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.519 him, Yeah, I like him. Yeah, I'm getting a little more 511 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.000 into him. He's not really into cotalk, not really into fair Tour, 512 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.440 Like the slower characters aren't really doing it for me. Goro, I kind 513 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.920 of mess with a little bit and not digging, dig really not digging. 514 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.640 It not worth buying. How much is he just b himself? I don't 515 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:49.680 know. It's not it for sale yet? Oh okay, Yeah, I 516 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.599 don't like Taquita at all. I like Taquita a lot. Kid. Yeah, 517 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.119 he's got some some interesting shit, you know, a couple of I 518 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.960 can't decide which stance I like the most. Yeah, because like all his 519 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.599 standard special moves that he just comes with, I fucking hate. But the 520 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.519 the stuff that comes with the variations, I actually like all them a lot. 521 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.240 The whip stuff is pretty cool that he's got. Trying to think other 522 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.839 new characters, it's eight new characters. Uh, and in the full roster 523 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.359 kind of the four good guys, which in the story mode kind of they're 524 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.200 a posse. They're the combat kids. They get out there, they fucking 525 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.519 show up wherever the actual problem is and just solve it, uh, in 526 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.119 a way that is kind of predictable wherever. Yeah, there's like, oh, 527 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:34.240 hey, I don't know, we're here, fucking all right, No, 528 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.839 we got this, no problem, We'll save the world. Yeah, 529 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.519 sure, Sure sounds like you're a little more lukewarm on the story this time 530 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.920 than Yeah. It's it's one of those things where I think they're doing much 531 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.240 better with the new characters and the general tone and flow of things than they 532 00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.359 ever did kind of post MK four with that stuff, because that just blew 533 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.680 out in a really fucking nuts ass way, including four. I didn't like 534 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.799 the new characters and four at all. You know, skocks all right, 535 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:05.200 sucks, Clunchi's lame, But like, which ones are you talking about? 536 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:10.079 Then? I thought Raco was alright, Fujin was okay, bo right show, 537 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:19.759 but fuck bar shoe he could puke part and it's like a pun for 538 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.799 baraco, the Spanish word for drunk. Oh, I didn't know that. 539 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:28.960 Yeah, uh, it's yeah dumb. Uh. So I think they're doing 540 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:30.960 better than they did last time. They were at this point kind of in 541 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:36.519 their pre reboot storyline. I was a little worried. Yeah, But at 542 00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:40.839 the same time, like, I think this story is a little less interesting, 543 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.680 but I'll give them credit. Like they're pushing things forward. You know, 544 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.440 they're adding new characters. They're kind of taking the focus off of some 545 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:52.200 of the long time uh Mortal Kombat fighters. They are discarding them, not 546 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.359 discarding them. Yeah, I mean, you can still play as Luke Kang. 547 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.160 It's just why would you. Luke King's alright, Uh, he's an 548 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.160 old ass man and still weird, gray hair, still got the bicycle kick. 549 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.799 Ye yes, all right, that's all I need. You can still 550 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:15.279 turn into a dragon, an old gray dragon. And you know, they're 551 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.359 kind of like addressing kind of some long time rivalries in new ways, like 552 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.960 the Scorpions subzero stuff is interesting in a new way. This taste and just 553 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.119 have gotten together and hugged it out at this point. You know, that's 554 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.920 you should play the story. So I like, I like some of that 555 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.279 stuff, but generally speaking, it's just it doesn't hit as hard, and 556 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:37.039 it's you know, following up from nine, where they're just like fucking jj 557 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.559 abrams reboot of the first three games all in one, Like it's hard to 558 00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:45.480 fucking top that, sure, uh, and they don't, you know, 559 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.400 like, I think the story in that game is better. But also I 560 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:51.240 never quite looked at nine as reboots so much as just like, here is 561 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.039 a closer, more dramatized look at what happened, you know, No, 562 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.440 because I mean at the very beginning they explained the thing. We're like, 563 00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.279 what is it raiding about? Die? I know, I know there was 564 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.960 like, yeah, it is a literal reboot, yeah, but you know 565 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.759 it was still it was still cool to see, like, you know, 566 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.480 during the first MK, here's some ship that happened in between the fights. 567 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:10.360 Yeah, yeah, like to give that get like that game had no story 568 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.559 whatsoever, totally Yeah, first endings and it was just like there's a tournament 569 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.360 save the world to like to dramatize the offensive old ass man that hovers wants 570 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.440 to shoot fireballs at you and turn into you, and he's gonna be young 571 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.519 in the next game. It sounds great. Yeah, in the next game. 572 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.000 I think that makes me want to play for the nine storyline again. 573 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.679 Yeah, yeah, it's yeah. I mean, you don't, like, 574 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.239 you don't need to have a story in a fighting game, but when it's 575 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.920 there, I think it adds a lot, you know, it adds a 576 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:44.320 lot of longevity. I think for you know, for people that that care 577 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:45.719 about the characters and want to see that stuff, you know, like it. 578 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.760 It creates the potential for hot offshoots. That's Mortal Kombat mythology. Subzero 579 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.760 special Forces, yeah, special Forces Salon Monks is legitimately. Yeah. I 580 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.880 played through that start finish with my cousin two players, and it's one of 581 00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:05.000 the let's go up. It's actually a good game. Yeah, I like 582 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.280 it. But it doesn't hit his heart at the last game. But kind 583 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.079 of on some level, of course it doesn't because that game was them saying, 584 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.199 all right, we teased fucked around with it in MK versus DC. 585 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:21.159 Here it is we have we have Street Fighter forward, our our Mortal Kombat 586 00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.480 back to the way you want it, uh and and with the characters you 587 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.519 know and love. Yeah, every game was firing on all cylinders, hope 588 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.639 they had perfected the storytelling method. And also we're retelling the story with nostalgic 589 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.679 value that everybody wanted exactly. Yeah, it was kind of It was kind 590 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.880 of a flash point that you can't necessarily just got replicated exactly and and and 591 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.760 they don't. But I think that they, you know, they leave the 592 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.559 story in some interesting places if you care about that stuff. And yeah, 593 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.039 I like taking it for granted that there will be another Mortal Kombat game, 594 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.079 Like, is cand you see this going somewhere? Like, I mean they 595 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.800 tease, they tease follow up at the end, you know, so yes, 596 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.559 you can see some places where it could go that it might be kind 597 00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.239 of cool. But you know, the story jumps around in time lot. 598 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.599 It starts out kind of after the events of MK nine and then flash forwards 599 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:07.519 twenty five years forward. Then it's like everyone has flashbacks that are like five 600 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.599 years before. So it's just like there's so many different time lines represented and 601 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.559 so many different costumes that show up as a result of that. Sounds kind 602 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.000 of messy. It is messy. It's it's it's at some point you're just 603 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.639 like, wait a minute, is he a good guy? At this point 604 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.119 in time, or a bad guy like what happened? You know, is 605 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.559 this guy still a zombie or not? Like what the fuck is going on? 606 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:28.000 Like, there's just there's weird stuff with that. But who was a 607 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.800 zombie? Everyone died at the end of MK nine. Dude, Yeah, 608 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.679 I know what. I kind of want you to just tell me how they 609 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.519 get around that. But they they have some ways, all right, and 610 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:43.480 in some cases they don't. They just don't even address it. They just 611 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.360 don't make them not zombies. Oh I see, so okay, now I 612 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.639 actually want to see this. So it's weird because their characters like that appear 613 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.000 in as playable characters informs that they never show up and in the story. 614 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:59.679 But whatever, it's it's yeah, they've got a lot of modes around it, 615 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.760 you know, same as same as last time. They've built up you 616 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.960 know, some meta games and weird little fun so all they've always crammed the 617 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.199 tone of extra content. Yeah, I mean it's you know, there's no 618 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:14.480 puzzle game or cart racer, but crypt it's pretty extensive. The crypt is 619 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:19.519 Net, the uh, the test your luck stuff, the random modifiers like 620 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.880 that. Stuff's kind of fun. Test your might Tower yeah, right, 621 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.119 Yeah, it's weird. That's so dumb. You get a bunch of coins 622 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.920 and stuff that way, No, you don't. Und when you get up 623 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.280 to the upper tiers, you start getting more mashing and like what the other 624 00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.199 day, and you're I'm gonna point now, popping out of your neck. 625 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.440 I'm gonna point now where I need like ten thousand to open stuff. So 626 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.639 like, no, the test your might tower does not. And that's that 627 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.639 kind of is One of the more frustrating things about the game is that it 628 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:52.760 feels over monetized. Jeff, It's okay, man, just twenty bucks and 629 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.039 you can unwrite. Yeah, so you can pay twenty bucks to unlock everything 630 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:59.840 in the crypt. Wait really it really? Stuff is already in the game 631 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.599 really yeah? Oh no, And so you can do the second fatalities without 632 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.760 unlocking them in the crypt first. But all the brutalities, which are the 633 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.119 new finishing move, uh you apparently I think you have to unlock those in 634 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.800 the crypt first. I'm not sure. I actually had one happened last night 635 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.039 that I had not unlock. Really did okay accidentally, so I'm not positive. 636 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:20.559 Okay, all right, Well, cost their costumes and stuff in there 637 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.760 too, that are that are game relevant. There's also concept art and stuff 638 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.360 that you're art, fan art whatever, paying to unlock things that you can 639 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.800 unlock playing in a sixty dollars game, Like, I think that stuff is 640 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:36.159 super lame in this specific case. But at the same time, but that's 641 00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.440 more of a factor of I really like Mortal Kombat, so it bothers me 642 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.719 more here than it has in like every EA game that did you know, 643 00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.800 every EA golf game that was like, fuck it make a leveled up golfer 644 00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.480 back on the three sixty. It's like who cares? Sure, like, 645 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.039 just don't buy it because fucking why would you buy the golf game anyway? 646 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.880 But yeah, you kind of you kind of want to feel like Mortal Kombat 647 00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:59.199 can be better than that it is. Yes, that is yes, that 648 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.079 is how I feel about it. Is that Mortal Kombat is such a long 649 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:07.159 running, storied thing that like to see it get nickel and dimed, like 650 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:12.880 this is depressing in a way that it isn't in Tiger Woods or you know, 651 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:16.239 Evolve or something like that. We're already talking about a combat pack which 652 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.719 thirty dollars. Thirty dollars things that are already included in the game. Oh 653 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.840 really, I thought the thirty dollars stuff was all external content that's all new. 654 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.599 I mean, it's all that's new in the But they're characters that are 655 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.039 in the game. You fight against them in like the story mode. Right, 656 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:31.440 Yes, Tanya is one of the characters. You're talking those up in 657 00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:35.719 the story mode. You're talking about the four which is frustrating. Yeah, 658 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:37.559 yeah, so those characters aren't available yet, but that's Yeah, their season 659 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:43.400 pass is like four characters, like thirteen costumes or something like that. I'm 660 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.800 not sure it's uh, but it's that. That's thirty bucks, and that's 661 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.159 if you want to unlock the rest of the stuff that you can get in 662 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.800 the crypt that's another twenty so fifty dollars on top. And also you might 663 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:57.199 have purchased one of the limited edition versions of the game to get an exclusive 664 00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.239 scorpion skin and like a little statue, So you might have spent like, 665 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:01.719 I don't know, like one hundred and forty hundred fifty bucks on this thing 666 00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:06.679 to start with? Is Goro part of the thirty dollars was a pre or 667 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.119 no, he's not here, a pre order bonus that will be for sale 668 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:14.079 at some point, but it's not currently for sale. So right now, 669 00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.880 you can go hover over Goro on the character select screen and it says push 670 00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:21.199 x to purchase Goro, and you push X, and even after launch, 671 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.800 it still says you can't. So the thirty dollars I assume that'll be up 672 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.039 today, but you know, maybe by the time you hear this, they 673 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.480 will have corrected that. But like you, the thirty dollars thing is their 674 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:36.760 season pass with Tanya, Tat Predator and Jason from Friday the thirteen, right, 675 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.320 and then all those skins and then yeah, three each one of those 676 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.199 characters will come with three skins, and then there's like a Shinnock skin you 677 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.599 get right away and you buy it. Wait up skins for all the existing 678 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.519 characters. Yes, they will, They're not all these. I mean it'll 679 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:52.719 be like here's Classic Katana, right, which is sort of fucked up because 680 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.239 when you go into the viewer and view everything you have locked, it shows 681 00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.199 classic Katana there already does it say you have to buy the things list requirements, 682 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.000 So you might just be unlocking everything in the crypt, going where is 683 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.360 this, Where's this? Where's this and then never find it until you because 684 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:14.280 you haven't buy it gross, so it gets worse. Oh go on. 685 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:19.400 Yeah. In the crypt sometimes you unlock something called an easy Fatality Award and 686 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.320 it's something so remember when we play the game in development and they were like, 687 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.119 oh, just hold down, just hold down block and hit triangle to 688 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.800 do the fatalities. That's like, you know, we're just just we're developing 689 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:30.599 it right now, so just just do that like a trade show thing for 690 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.679 like, well, we know you want to see fatalities. Here how you 691 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.280 do it? So we made them real easy in this build for that we 692 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.960 were bringing around to show you or showing a E three that is something that 693 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:44.960 you can earn easy fatality tokens for and use. Uh in the crypt so 694 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.320 far I found about seven of them by token. Do you mean it's expendable? 695 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.679 Yes, you do, yes when you if yes, exactly if you 696 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:52.800 use it, it's gone. So I have seven of them that I can 697 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:58.000 do that I've gotten out of the crypt. Uh and and and just you 698 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.880 know, out of the game itself, you could buy thirty of them for 699 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:10.360 four ninety nine consumables, straight up consumable. And it's like whatever, like 700 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.800 the move list is in the game, like you know, it's it's just 701 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.960 an easier way to do an existing thing that like, at some point, 702 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.679 why would anyone ever buy that? But at the same point time, like 703 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.880 easy Fatalities used to be a cheat code, very much, very much a 704 00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.280 cheat code. But also you're earning coins by doing fatalities that you can then 705 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.719 spend on other stuff. Correct, and you spend it in the crypt that's 706 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.039 it. You can't buy those You can't buy those awards directly, right, 707 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.320 But I'm saying there is a utility to doing fatalities consistently, yes, because 708 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.800 you're getting currency out of it. Yes, yeah, yeah, you can 709 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.800 do stuff, yes, your or experience points or you know whatever. You're 710 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.320 so like the chain of buying the easy fatality stuff and turning those things into 711 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.360 coins you can actually buy other stuff with. It's pretty clear, Well, 712 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.719 if you want to go that way, if yes, But the coins you 713 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:54.599 get per fatality are not worth it, Okay, It's not like you're getting 714 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.840 so many that you're like, I need to do one and I need to 715 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:02.159 do them easy because I can't figure out these button presses. Well, you 716 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.440 can just pause the unless you're playing online, you just pause the game and 717 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.360 look it up, right, there. So like so for starters, it's 718 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.920 a dumb thing because you can pause the game and look up how to do 719 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.599 the fatalities right then and there. Yeah, but but also come on, 720 00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:22.559 also, come on, like seriously people, it's uh, it's pretty crazy. 721 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:22.840 And it's like, you know, I don't know, like I go 722 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.199 back and forth on like the season past stuff, because when you break it 723 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:29.639 down, like per character plus the skins, you start comparing it to other 724 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.679 DLC prices and Matt packs and stuff like that, and you go like, 725 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:37.280 well, you know, seven fifty a character doesn't seem too far out of 726 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.960 control for kind of what other stuff is sold for Matt packs and and that 727 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.960 sort of thing. And then you total it all up and look at it 728 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.519 and go, this game is sixty dollars and comes with this many characters and 729 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.000 all this other stuff for half that price. Again, I get four dudes. 730 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:57.440 Like that's that's where it starts to get out of control. I mean, 731 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.199 you know, like the season passes have been priced that way for for 732 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.239 some time in most games. Uh, you know, like the Battlefield Premium 733 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.320 stuff, which is like bonus shit plus the mat packs, Like that's fifty 734 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.880 bucks. Holy shit. Yeah, I'm a gun. Yeah, what's the 735 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.840 standard, like a thirty typically twenty thirty. I think it's one of those 736 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.320 things where it's like if there are four releases, they come out at ten 737 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:21.639 a pop, and then you get a break for buying the season. Yeah 738 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.039 thirty, but like the I think the Call of Duty season passes forty okay, 739 00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.039 so it's like you're getting for ten bucks apiece, but they're fifteen separately 740 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.519 or something like that. So typically if you buy, if you buy the 741 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.360 pass, you get a break a little bit, but at the same time, 742 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.920 like it's a stiff Yeah, it's stiff. And then there are a 743 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.000 bunch of characters that are in the story mode that they just pull out of, 744 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.639 like you know, Rain, Like characters that appeared in MK nine show 745 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.440 up and fight you in the story like Striker, Wait, you don't you 746 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.559 don't fight and Sindel Yeah really yeah. So like some of these characters that 747 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.239 you know that show up and you start to wonder, like, well, 748 00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.599 they're gonna turn those into season two of DLCs. They did another a second 749 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.920 pack of four for Injustice. Oh really yeah, because they only did four 750 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.519 characters for nine, right right, okay, yeah, and then they did 751 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.679 the four and then went back and side. You know what, there's more, 752 00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.960 there's another four, which you know, like people like that game, 753 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.840 they want new characters, Like that's a I think that that's a great way 754 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.360 to add characters to a fighting game, you know, like putting out a 755 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.400 full sequel and saying, now there are four new characters. Like that sucks, 756 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:22.679 Like that's what we did on the s nest. That's what you know. 757 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.320 It's like been getting Super street Fighter two and that sort of stuff. 758 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.719 Like those sorts of upgrades always felt highly questionable, So updating it like it's 759 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.239 a platform the way Ki does, you know, you know, I think 760 00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.840 that's a preferable way to do it. But like the numbers don't. Like 761 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.119 the numbers add up in a really a bunch of really weird ways, depending 762 00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.639 on how you're looking at it. So like the business of it starts to 763 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.599 get a little creepy, and there's just so much of it at every turn 764 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.320 in this game, Like like having you know, press extra purchase Goora right 765 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.920 on the fucking character sele ex screen I think is gaudy. Like having just 766 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:58.599 having that that carousel of up selling ad stuff right there on the main menu 767 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:00.840 yeah, and and just like push triangle to get to the store to buy 768 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.599 stuff, and like I've already purchased a lot of that stuff and it still 769 00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.519 shows up. You know. It's like, you know, at least, 770 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.559 do me the fucking dignity turn that off of removing it. Yeah, you 771 00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:16.119 know that stuff. So, yeah, that's disappointing. The game itself is 772 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.599 solid. It's a lot of fun, you know. The net code, 773 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.840 I think it's a little shaky, not having the best experience with that. 774 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.280 The online's a little bit done, both the PS four and Xbox One. 775 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:29.679 Last night, Xbox One seemed a little bit better. Just that's just luck 776 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.719 though at this point. So but I'm hearing pretty bad reports across the board. 777 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.519 Yeah, it's not up to snuff just yet. But any any early 778 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.440 thoughts on the viability of this game in the tournament scene. It's gonna be 779 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.920 weird. I mean, Mortal Kombat, like the NRS fans, you know, 780 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.960 and Justice fans, Mortal Kombat fans they're they're they're kind of their own 781 00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.639 little group. I mean, like they don't they don't all get out and 782 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.519 care about the other games. They just care about JO. Yeah, they 783 00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.960 just play that Okay, I don't know if we're gonna see and big like 784 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:05.079 you know, like an EVO. It'll probably show up at EVO. I 785 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.360 think they already didn't. They already say it's happening, but I don't know 786 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.000 like how big it's gonna be there, and I don't know how it's gonna 787 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.679 be at at normal major tournaments. Normally these guys kind of break off and 788 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.880 do their own thing. Okay, but yeah, mortal kind of bat fans 789 00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.360 man. Yeah, they they really dig this, this game an awful lot. 790 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.760 Do you do think the death is there though, to support ongoing competitive 791 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:32.199 play? I can't say from my personal experience, but based on what I've 792 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.079 I've heard from like a lot of people in the fighting game community, they're 793 00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.119 not super high on it. Like it's fun, they don't know how well, 794 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:40.800 but we don't know what kind of legs it's. Yeah, I guess 795 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:44.760 time. Time will always tell with the stuff, right, Yeah, you 796 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:45.880 know, we got to get the net code up to up to speed. 797 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:50.199 That needs to be more balancing, But otherwise, you know, the character 798 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:53.559 character roster seems fun and uh yeah, I think some people are on board. 799 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:55.840 It's very flashy, like watching that tournament over the weekend. It's one 800 00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.760 of those things where like you think about MK three combos, the juggles and 801 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.079 the stuff that would happen in those those early games, right, Like that 802 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.599 stuff still happens, but it's like on this exponential, fucking insane ass level. 803 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.679 Yeah, I mean I remember nine kind of like this, yeah, 804 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.320 this is this Like oh that you guys spending half the match in the air. 805 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.519 Yeah, yeah, And it's that that stuff kind of cuts both ways, 806 00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.559 right where it's like it's kind of awesome that you can do all that 807 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.000 stuff, but if you're on the receiving end of it, you don't have 808 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:23.079 enough meter to break out. You're just like, what the fuck am I 809 00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:24.840 doing? I'm in the air the whole time. It's like it's like the 810 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.480 complaining people used to have about tech in as you know, you're just in 811 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.840 the air the whole time. Yeah. I think one of the best editions 812 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.760 from a gameplay perspective is the brutalities. I think those are really really cool. 813 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.320 My favorite part of this uh yeah, yeah. So it's not it's 814 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.679 not a finish him thing. It's not like you win two rounds and then 815 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:45.280 you do a brutality input it's you end your second round, like you win 816 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:50.159 the fight with in any specific way, which do you kill the guy as 817 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.840 part of ending the fight. And some of them are super easy to where 818 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.039 it's like, well you just wait until their health is low enough for this 819 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:58.519 throw to kill them anyway, and then just hold forward when you're throwing them 820 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.239 and then like oh, katonic had his head off, or you know. 821 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.400 Others require like lots of different criteria, like you've got to be above fifty 822 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.280 percent health, you have to run three times in a match, and then 823 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.440 you have to hit with the second hit of a specific move in order for 824 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.159 it to and they have to be in the air or they'd be blocking, 825 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:15.559 and it has to be damage to kill him. Yeah, yeah, like 826 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:21.760 was it like scorpions? First brutality is like you meter you double meter burned 827 00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.199 the spear at the end of a fight, but you have to have over 828 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:27.519 fifty percent health to do it, so it's like it's meter burn throw. 829 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.280 So it's the double chains and then you hit it again to do like the 830 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.159 whip energy down the line and then it just fucking makes his upper torso blow 831 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.199 up and leave behind skeleton. It's it's pretty fucking awesome. Seems like it 832 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.719 just sounds a little confusing, but fuck when it happened. Yeah, it 833 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.440 seems like they just looked at the stuff in like two for instance, where 834 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:46.880 you get the guitar moreph like manifest or even or even you know, you 835 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.519 can only use low kick in the round that you do friendship in or whatever. 836 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:52.440 They like, they just took that and rid it large. And my 837 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.159 favorite is a Johnny cage. It's your second round. You have to connect 838 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.360 with four nut punches, and then if you win with a net punch, 839 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:01.800 their head flies off. That's great. So he punched on the ball so 840 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:07.000 hard their head flies off. Mortal Combat X quadruple the nut punches, Yeah, 841 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.840 gets there. There's a level of and they turn, like most of 842 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:13.719 the specials into brutalities. You know, it's like each character I have like 843 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.320 five or six of them. So like, that's that's pretty awesome. I 844 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:20.280 think that stuff's really cool. Like that makes me want to watch tournaments to 845 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.480 see who pulls what off, because that'll be fucking some pretty hype moments. 846 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:27.440 I like, I wonder if you know some of the ones that have a 847 00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.199 lot of these requirements, if it's going to factor into the meta at all. 848 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.519 It's like, if you see that guy running three times of shit, 849 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:35.880 he might be going for that brutality. Fuck, yeah, that's cool idea. 850 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.199 Or reptiles spitting a ton and in the second round like always gonna try 851 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:42.760 to melt my face could be jefted that yesterday I did. I didn't know 852 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:44.599 why you were spitting so much, and then I figured it out. Oh 853 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:49.039 my god, he's just fucking cheesing me with projectiles spitting a lot. Yeah, 854 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.480 all right, Well, I'm glad to hear this game turn out well 855 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.519 on the whole. Yeah, the monetization stuff is you know, I think 856 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:59.159 that's part of a larger conversation in the industry. It's it's sad to see 857 00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:00.960 a game like MK do that stuff, but then you go back and go, 858 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.360 well, you know, Arcade games were the ultimate nightmare micro transaction boxes. 859 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:12.079 So I don't know, maybe this was its destiny all along. I 860 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.800 don't know from my perspective, Like the single player of stuff not nearly as 861 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.000 good as what I found in Justice. I'm not a fan of what they're 862 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.400 offering this time around. Like I don't even get the faction stuff. I 863 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.480 don't care about that, Like you know, gaining all these points for whatever 864 00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:29.679 fucking reason, Like there's no immediate payoff for that. But do you like 865 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.639 do you like the living tower stuff? Not necessarily. I feel like that's 866 00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:36.039 the thing, is Like I like the modifiers. Like, so the fight 867 00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.119 modifiers will be like you know, some of the combat codes from MK three 868 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:43.079 in in in some cases where it's like, you know, quick uppercut recovery, 869 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.719 but it'll also be like, you know, no super meters or no 870 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.000 blocking or turbo speed. I like their randomness, Yeah, that's yeah, 871 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:51.840 like randomizing it like it's a dumb, little fun thing. But if it's 872 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.480 against a computer, I don't give a shit. Yeah. And the towers, 873 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.079 like they have these these living towers they call them. That'll some one 874 00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.360 one rotates every hour, one rotates every day, and then one rotates every 875 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:06.159 like four days or five days. Yeah, totally. They have dailies. 876 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.239 You have faction. You have daily faction challenges, right that you can use 877 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:13.199 to contribute to the overall meta war effort thing. Grind that rep totally. 878 00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.440 That is exactly what you were doing in that game, is grinding that rep 879 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.920 by picking sub zero twice or connecting five uppercuts continuing on to our nightmare future 880 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.920 where all video games are the same game, yeah, and but at the 881 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:28.880 same like then those daily towers will be like, you know, you gotta 882 00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.679 fight these five guys, but your controls are crazy like that that's not that 883 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.480 fun all told, I did prefer the way nine did it, where it's 884 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:39.039 like, hey, here's three hundred levels that each one of them is kind 885 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.599 of a different thing with a different gimmick. You know. Some of them 886 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.039 are totally funny. Some of them are like silly gameplay line. You know, 887 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.760 going in that you're gonna get a bunch of weird ship but it changes 888 00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.920 so frequently that that's that that's fine. Where it's like you know, just 889 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.719 having like you know, these next five fights are all gonna have earthquakes that 890 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.960 shake the ground and hurt both players, and the earthquakes get stronger as you 891 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.639 work your way up the tower, like that's every single one and and or 892 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:02.599 in one case, you know, it rotates every hour, so there's that, 893 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:07.760 but like that's not fun on its own, so you know, or 894 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.639 it's not you know, it just kind of like gets in the way of 895 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.679 the fight. Like some of the modifiers are are such that you know, 896 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:15.079 they're not really adding that much. You know, they're I'm making it that 897 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.280 crazy, but you carry you can't carry that online like set up a lobby 898 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.199 to do test your luck stuff. Yes, so you can play with other 899 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:27.159 people that you can do custom combat, which is where you pick your modifiers. 900 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.599 I don't I don't think i'd ever ever want to do that because you 901 00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.159 can, you know, you'll be fighting ast somebody who just picks you know, 902 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.880 I've got full super meter. Yeah, so I think it's actually super 903 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.239 lame that that each character picks two in that mode, because then you just 904 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:43.880 pick ones that make you better or the other guy totally fucked right, Whereas 905 00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.599 it should be more like Halo custom games where you're just like you're building a 906 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:50.639 recipe. It builds it in a you know, like like you know, 907 00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:52.199 you can make it super fucked for one player over the other, but like 908 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.119 everyone's gonna see it and go like, I'm not going to play that, 909 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:58.840 Like why who would play that exactly and be able to set up like you 910 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:00.159 should be able to set up dive in that game, save it as a 911 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:04.840 custom recipe and fucking play it online. Yeah, that would be fun, 912 00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.920 But it has a modified. It's in there. I swear to it's I 913 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:13.280 saw it happen. It's called kick dive. It's not on the goddamn list 914 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.360 of modifiers and custom combat. I don't know why you should have. Did 915 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.639 you happen to save a clip on the PS four? When did that? 916 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.960 Because I figured, like, oh whatever, this is just the random thing. 917 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.280 It rolled the first time I tried this mode, so it'll obviously come 918 00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:29.119 up again and hasn't. And what if you what if each profile and it 919 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:32.239 gets it once? It's like this ultimate weird dive kick burn right, it 920 00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.760 shows Yeah, I don't know what the fuck is going on there? Uh 921 00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.480 yeah, like I would want to. But you know, it had the 922 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.079 mode where it basically made the only attack you could do was the Kung Lou 923 00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.400 style dive kick any attack button when you were in the air did it. 924 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.079 That's pretty funny. And it was one hit kills, right it was not. 925 00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:50.480 So that's the thing is, like, you know you can make it 926 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.679 one hit kills. You could turn on danger mode, you could turn on 927 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.840 that sort of stuff. You could you know, there could be I don't 928 00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.320 think there is, but there should be a modifier for can't walk like you 929 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:06.000 should just be able to create fucking dive kicks in that game and save it 930 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.119 as a recipe and then play it with people the same way you would do 931 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.840 with like the Halo custom stuff like that. That would be rad I would 932 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.239 be pretty good. That's what that's that's the direction that stuff should have moved 933 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.079 in, I think. But but there you go. All right, Well 934 00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:23.960 that sounds like the straight dirt on Mortal Combat x Dan Grant theft thought of 935 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:28.480 five PC. Yeah, how is it great? Yeah? Yeah, I 936 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.400 like it a lot. Okay, I'm glad I waited because when they put 937 00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:34.679 him out on PS four and Xbox One, I wanted to, you know, 938 00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:36.840 I did that quick look with you and it looked really cool and everything, 939 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.440 and I really wanted to try the first person, but I knew it 940 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:42.159 would probably run a little bit better on my PC. It sounds like a 941 00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.519 lot better from the little bit of like form chatter of scenes so far, 942 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:47.760 it looks really really sharp. I really like to play through the like the 943 00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:51.079 first fifteen minutes of it or so, and yeah, it looks nice. 944 00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.320 I had trouble keeping the frame rate all the way stable and cut scenes and 945 00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.639 stuff. I'm running at twenty five sixty by sixteen hundred with every turn all 946 00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.559 the way up. That might have something to do, you know, my 947 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.159 process or this point's old. I don't know how if that's gonna impact. 948 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.760 Yeah, it was kind of scenes mainly for me. That's a little bit 949 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.559 weird and stuff like that. But like I was just driving around like that 950 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.719 intromission driving through the snow and stuff like this looks really fucking nice. Really 951 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.880 yeah, man, I want to see that. But at the same time, 952 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.280 I don't know. You guys, like you finished GT shit out of 953 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.119 g T five when it first came out on three sixty, like what I 954 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.920 mean. I like that game a lot, but I left it with zero 955 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:27.239 desire to play it again. So like these rereleases, I feel like I've 956 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.639 played about the same amount with PS four and then now I've played that much 957 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:31.880 on the PC and I'm like, oh, this is cool if you've never 958 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.239 played it before. But I would never want to go like, you know, 959 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.840 not this soon contact years later, the contact with the PC specifically, 960 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.519 I think there probably are a lot of people who haven't played yeah, yeah, 961 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:45.079 but I'm just like in this in Dan's specific case, like why I 962 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:46.119 think there's a few things I think. You know, first of all, 963 00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.880 it looks so damn good, because I do remember playing it looked great on 964 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:51.920 last gen. Yeah, but I remember thinking like, man, we're here 965 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:53.639 with these new systems and everything and PC. I'd like to see it like 966 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:58.119 really pushed as much as it could go. And it looks so much better, 967 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.800 you know, like new new tracks and stuff, new music stuff, 968 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.400 and mainly the first person thing, like I am playing pretty much she plays 969 00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:07.360 the mouse and keyboard, because I understand they did some some smart work with 970 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.360 how that stuff is implemented in a way that makes the first person stuff work 971 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:13.480 a little better than it because on console and with the controller, I thought 972 00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:15.159 the first person stuff was kind of clunky. I haven't even tried yet. 973 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.920 I am playing with an Xbox One controller and I think it's fine. I 974 00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.280 like it a lot. I've read you can switch back to forth pretty seamlessly. 975 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.719 It's just it's the select buttoner between mouse and keyboard. Yeah, you 976 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:29.599 can drop the controller and go mass keyboard. Nos, no option nos, 977 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:31.599 No, you don't have to stop at all. Yeah. So I played 978 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.840 a little bit with the mouse and stuff and didn't necessarily like it felt swimmy. 979 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.679 My viewpoint felt like it was not super fast. So in the first 980 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:40.719 person, yeah, I mean I think that stuff was intentionally you know, 981 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.199 they're very in love with their kind of like you know, they're realistic, 982 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:46.920 sort of exaggerated. I saw some people like talking about like raw mouse in 983 00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:49.360 putting all this stuff, and I thought, like, oh, is it 984 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.039 gonna like jitter around like a first person shoot, like like you know, 985 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:53.440 quake or something like that, because that'd be cool, Like that's the time. 986 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:58.199 But accuracy I want when I am playing in a first person perspective. 987 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.920 So there are a ton of options if you go into the settings, like 988 00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.440 specifically for first person and just kind of how the camera goes, like the 989 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.920 head bobbing and the field of you, Like, yeah, I mess with 990 00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.280 a lot of stuff on the PS four and like it seemed like there were 991 00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:13.159 a ton of options there, but at some point it just never clicked like 992 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.320 this, it never seemed like the right way to play the game. I 993 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:20.199 think I would probably play through it again regardless, but because of first person, 994 00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.920 I think, and I do like that you can make it independent where 995 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.840 like I don't like driving it totally. Yeah, no, so you want 996 00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:28.960 the third person camera, yeah, and there's just tons of little details and 997 00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:30.559 stuff you wouldn't normally see without this first person mode. Like you know, 998 00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:34.519 I was just walking around Franklin's house and like looking at all the like books 999 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.239 and stuff that his mom has on the shelf, and like they took the 1000 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:38.199 care to make it be like, Okay, this is what that character would 1001 00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:42.199 have. Or just seeing little signs and all their little end jokes and stuff 1002 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:44.599 that they do. Like, I thought it was pretty cool seeing the world 1003 00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:46.800 from that perspective. Yeah, between between the first person and just the general 1004 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:50.719 like visual upgrade that they did even on the PS four, Like I gained 1005 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.360 an appreciation for being in that world in a way that I didn't have on 1006 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:57.960 the lesson version. Yeah, Like you can walk up to the like clucking 1007 00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.079 chicken thing or whatever, like read the entire drive through menu and stuff like 1008 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:04.400 that, Like I think it's cool. Yeah, or even just just driving 1009 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.000 around, you know, like it's just it's it's more interesting to look out 1010 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.599 now. But so you're gonna go the whole way with it totally, You're 1011 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:15.280 gonna get it. Yeah, yep. I might try online too, because 1012 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.119 when I came out on three sixty, I liked the idea of trying it, 1013 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.440 but it was so busted for a while and I was like, well, 1014 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:22.440 I'll get back to it when it's working, and then I just never 1015 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.079 really got back to it, so I might actually try it here. I've 1016 00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.679 been holding out as well, and actually, like you know, that was 1017 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.760 kind of justification for me getting the new video card. I'm like, well, 1018 00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:31.840 I'm on a fucking place in Grant. They've done on on this, 1019 00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:36.000 so it's kind of crazy. That's the game that drove your video card purchase. 1020 00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:39.280 Yeah, yeah, what'd you get? Nine eighty? Okay, I'm 1021 00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:43.199 trying to remember. Did the original four people on this podcast have a nine 1022 00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.199 eighty bread? But what are you doing? Come on, man, Tighten 1023 00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:50.840 X or whatever one comes out after outstrip us go one level up? What 1024 00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:52.440 is the X is that? I think it's just two nine eighties, isn't 1025 00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:57.360 it? Like in one card? The original Titan was the thousand dollars card? 1026 00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.280 Right? Right? Yeah? So what is this t It is now 1027 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:04.840 a Titan that's based on the nine eighties stuff? Something? Right? A 1028 01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.519 lot? I don't know. I think that came out at some point, 1029 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:12.519 Like I have to stop paying attention to that. I'm in a weird situation 1030 01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:16.800 running Windows ten because I don't get the same drivers I can install. I 1031 01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:21.960 could go back and actually install the regular drivers, but like the the g 1032 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:24.599 Force like app or whatever never feeds me new drivers. Why are you doing 1033 01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:28.679 this crazy shit again? Yeah, I don't. I don't understand your predilection 1034 01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:31.599 for running beta OS is like, because it's just Windows eight, it's fun. 1035 01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:35.719 Well, but you running in the compatibility stuff with drivers. So that's 1036 01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.960 so I could go manually install those drivers and run like whatever the standard d 1037 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.599 X eleven driver is. But Windows ten has progressed to a point where now 1038 01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:47.480 they're beta testing d X twelve drivers. Uh so I am not running those 1039 01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:51.960 and it's it hasn't in the games. I mean, and maybe that you 1040 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:53.280 know, maybe that would impact GTA or something like that. But in the 1041 01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:57.920 games that I played on both you know, drivers sets, it was not 1042 01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.320 an issue. There was no real change. Always I thinks deep, nothing's 1043 01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:05.440 running well, obviously you can always run a BEATOS and a VM if you 1044 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.400 just want to mess good. Yeah, I just I don't know. I've 1045 01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:09.880 been running it production. Yeah, someone's doing what they tell you not to 1046 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.039 do. Sounds like they're getting pretty close with that thing. Yeah, it's 1047 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:17.320 out, it's out. Yeah. Yeah. I need more than a new 1048 01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:21.119 video card. That's not going to solve my woes. I want to do 1049 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.480 motherboard CPU stuff. I think I'm doing a full rebuild towards the end of 1050 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.000 the year. Probably CPU is just over five years old at this point. 1051 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:34.079 It's really getting up there. Who else plays? Anybody play anything else of 1052 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.119 a note like the GTA and and MK or kind of the releases. Yeah, 1053 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.440 those kind of the big ones. I beat the blood Starved Beasts and 1054 01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:45.360 I've been playing that's actually, and then I started on the Chows Dungeon like 1055 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:50.000 that's that's kind of my continued progress. And blood Born. I beat blood 1056 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.119 Born. Yeah. I didn't spend much time with the Chalice dungeons. I 1057 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:55.639 did like one or two of them. Yeah. Are they worthwhile? Or 1058 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:59.119 they are they cool? Like I've only done. There are some items you 1059 01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:01.239 can get if you like use the right seed code. Yeah, there are 1060 01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:06.559 variants of the existing weapons. I don't think there are any actual unique weapons 1061 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.559 in there, but you say there are are there. I think so because 1062 01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:13.440 I know you can get there are some weapons that are only available. Really, 1063 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:15.880 I know that there are two designations I think it's lost and uncanny or 1064 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:19.960 the labels they put. You know, you can find like an Uncanny Blades 1065 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.760 of Mercy or something like that. But I think the only difference there is 1066 01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.599 the types of sockets that you could have on it. Okay, I don't 1067 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:29.320 know. I've only done the first Chalice dungeon and like it was fun. 1068 01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:30.440 You know, there are some unique bosses in there, and those are probably 1069 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:34.840 worth seeing. I think any kind of level requirements for the challie stuff or 1070 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.920 you need items, yeah, yeah, I think that's it. But if 1071 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:42.280 I have the items that I'm at a low level, should I go in 1072 01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:44.480 there to get some cool ship? I don't know. I don't. I 1073 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:45.119 don't have enough experience with that, so I mean there. You know, 1074 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:50.000 there are some very like deep YouTube guides out there for randomized Chalice stuff. 1075 01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:52.679 I'm right at the end of that game, and I just keep putting off 1076 01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:55.239 finishing it because I want to go back and make sure I didn't miss stuff. 1077 01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:00.360 Yeah, by the end, I was ready, like I loved it 1078 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:02.639 and I wasn't really getting bored. But I mean it, I had stuff 1079 01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:05.960 coming out, like more of the combat and GTA. It's like I knew 1080 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:07.840 I wanted to be done, so like by the end, I was ready 1081 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.800 to be done with that, and yeah, beat the boss on Saturday night. 1082 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.000 I want to say I definitely had a case like where I think it 1083 01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:17.480 was Friday night. I was like, I'm gonna get this going. Like 1084 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.599 I was in the middle of doing MK stuff and I was like, i'n't 1085 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:23.480 take a break and play some play some of this and died to that thing 1086 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.400 like two or three times, and it got to a point where I didn't 1087 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.920 have enough antidotes and healing items to just like make another solid run at it, 1088 01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:32.559 and I was like, well, if I'm gonna run around and grind 1089 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:36.599 for this stuff, like this is a good time to take a break. 1090 01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:37.559 And I had that moment of just like I could beat that fucking thing, 1091 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:42.119 Like that's not nice, Like because like that last try, I had it 1092 01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:45.360 down to basically like the last hit and then I fucked up poisoned or something. 1093 01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:49.920 Yeah, like the timing on poison seems longer than the timing on healing. 1094 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.519 So it was just a case of just like I've just fucking mismanaged my 1095 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:54.039 ship. I mean, that's always the way with the bosses, you know, 1096 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:58.559 you whittle them down ninety percent and then you try to shortcut your way 1097 01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:00.800 through that last ten percent, sure as you want it to be over, 1098 01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.360 Yeah, and you fuck it up. Yeah. It was that that crazing, 1099 01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:05.920 that that frozen moment of like should I switched to these molotops or stick 1100 01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:09.440 on antidote because I get poisoned again? And then in that moment of being 1101 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.239 frozen, I died. Yeah. Always if you just stay the course, 1102 01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:15.519 you'd be fine. But it's very hard. Yeah, like slept on it 1103 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.840 kind of woke up and I don't beat that fucking thing because fuck that that's 1104 01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:21.519 a good feeling. Yeah, do you like that? It was all right? 1105 01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:24.679 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, not just beating 1106 01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:27.119 the boss, but just like thinking about it outside of the game, it's 1107 01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.360 like, oh, fuck, I should have done this. I should Well 1108 01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:30.639 it was maybe we should do this. It wasn't like a maybe. It 1109 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.920 was just like this is what I need to do to do this, and 1110 01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.400 I just need to wake up and do it. And then I woke up 1111 01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:41.639 and did it. And then yeah, like they dropped that drops the chalice 1112 01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:43.440 and then I was like, well, I guess god, am I supposed 1113 01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:45.679 to go in the Chalice Dungeon next, and I don't know. I went 1114 01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.800 in there and died a few times, and I was just like, all 1115 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:53.400 right, I am done with this for now. When went back to MK. 1116 01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:55.840 But Dan, did you beat all the bosses or did you? Because 1117 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.920 there are some optional bosses locked behind? Yeah? I did all of the 1118 01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:01.079 optional area is that are in kind of the main game, like not the 1119 01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.840 Chalice dungeons? Yeah, And then they're like three different endings you can get. 1120 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:08.719 Yeah, there's the one like super duper ending when you have to like 1121 01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.039 put a bunch of items together and fight this thing. I didn't do that 1122 01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.840 one. I did the one. There's like three edit kind of the middle 1123 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.440 of the pack. One. There's one super easy one, and then there's 1124 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.239 one where you fight this optional boss, and then there's the super crazy boss. 1125 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:23.239 I did the middle one. I'm working on the super crazy boss. 1126 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:28.440 But I think I'm in the last area before the real endgame starts with those 1127 01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:31.320 final bosses, So I'm very close to the end. I just what are 1128 01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:34.079 are trying to figure out? If we are far of men's Okay, yeah, 1129 01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:39.360 we can just say names of bosses and stuff. I mean when when 1130 01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.519 like we're our posts on our own message boards, as people saying like I'm 1131 01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:45.840 still stuck on the blood Starve Beast, like you've been fighting this thing for 1132 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:47.480 a week, Like no, we are, yeah, not far enough removed. 1133 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.519 But also like you know, sometimes is the name of a boss really 1134 01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:56.119 that important? I mean, like I don't know that, Like discussing the 1135 01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:00.320 end game thing is a fucking coouth thing to do at the stage already. 1136 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:01.840 But yeah, I'm right there at the end. And then I realized that 1137 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.239 I had never gotten into Upper Cathedral ward and I was like, I want 1138 01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:06.559 to see all that stuff. So I went back and started fiddling with that. 1139 01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:11.440 And it's a neat game. I don't know, like it's it's yeah, 1140 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:14.559 I'm still like like you guys, I mean, you finish the game, 1141 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.119 you kind of near the end, like does it get like how much 1142 01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:21.199 crazy or does you get there is fucking bullshit towards the end of that game, 1143 01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:27.599 like crazy like sheep shit? Yeah, well it seems so at first 1144 01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.880 there's a couple I mean there's generally there's always a method to it, but 1145 01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:32.920 that stuff is not apparent when you get there, and until you figure out 1146 01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.280 what's going on, like you just want to break the game, and yeah, 1147 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:39.119 it can be super frustrating. I walked into one area and then all 1148 01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:41.760 of a sudden, all these like red shards, I'm shooting out of me 1149 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.519 dead and three seconds and I can't see anything like there there's an area where 1150 01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:47.880 just if you're out in the open at all, you were just taking damage 1151 01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:50.840 constantly and you and you're and you're becoming frenzied, so that if the frenzy 1152 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:53.719 bar fills, you're just dead, just dead. Yeah, and I and 1153 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.159 they don't. It doesn't really let you know what's happening. Where I was 1154 01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:58.559 streaming at the time, and the twitch chat was like, oh, well, 1155 01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.679 this weird thing has happened, and there's no way at all I would 1156 01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:03.440 have known that that was what was causing, right, So that's the name 1157 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:09.599 of that entire game that like happening. Fucking crazy that seems like unbeatable and 1158 01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.239 total bullshit happens, and then you go, oh wait, I've solved this 1159 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:15.599 one particular thing. In that particular case, though, you're also dealing with 1160 01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.400 some really shitty enemies and it's one of the few areas in the game where 1161 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.360 people can invade you without you opting into it. Okay, there's a lot 1162 01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:25.920 going on in it, so it's very hard to just like those games are 1163 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:30.199 all about stopping looking around analyzing, like taking in all the like all the 1164 01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.519 information around you, and like thinking about it and figuring out what to do 1165 01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:35.880 right. Like in that case specifically, you never have the time to do 1166 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.079 that right. That's when that game is fun to me is when I'm playing 1167 01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.079 it right, I'm being defensive, I'm checking my corners. You know, 1168 01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.920 I'm playing the game right. But when that fucking game just wants to kill 1169 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.320 me for no fucking good reasons like that that area in particular, Yeah, 1170 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:53.360 like that one felt to me almost like that they ran out of like like 1171 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:56.880 actual challenging ways to make this harder. See that they're just gonna layer some 1172 01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.519 bullshit on. But like at the same time, I think the most fun 1173 01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:02.239 I've had that game so far was the time when I was trying, like 1174 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:04.800 at the gatling gun guy, like he was shooting down at me. It's 1175 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.559 where he first starts shooting at you, right, and you've gotta behind this 1176 01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:11.159 stone. You can fall off one level and then fall down two levels. 1177 01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:14.320 One time I fell down one level and was exploring around there. I fucked 1178 01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:17.359 up and died. Respawn did it again, ran out fall down, I 1179 01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:20.600 fell down both levels and died from the fall damage. I was like, 1180 01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:23.760 well, shit, I need to be more careful, and I did it 1181 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.640 again, fucked up, fell down both levels, but I stayed alive, 1182 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:29.640 was managed to heal and get out of there, and then the other hunter 1183 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.239 guy that's down there whatever started chasing me, and it's set off this like 1184 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.239 I'm just fucking on the run getting away from this thing because I need to 1185 01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:39.760 heal. And then in this area and I'm just like, I'm not even 1186 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:42.760 sure how I fucking got here because I ran away, and it's like, 1187 01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.000 well, I'll probably die, but I might as well explore and fucking just 1188 01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:47.560 run around and see what the fuck is here. So it just became me 1189 01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:51.319 just super loose, just running around killing shit, it something because it didn't 1190 01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.479 matter. And then I ended up making it and finding a shortcut, and 1191 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.800 then finding the shortcut to get to the blood Star Beast. It was like, 1192 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:02.520 oh, like that feeling of fuck it, I'm just out here going 1193 01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:05.199 for it. That was the best thing that's happened to me in that game 1194 01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:09.680 so far. And that area I think walks that line a lot more definitely 1195 01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:12.479 than the one that we're talking about Lay. Yeah, Like you don't have 1196 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.279 that opportunity in that later area. There's not like there's there's a no go 1197 01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:18.600 ahead. There's not really exploration in the area we're talking about it like you 1198 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:20.720 need to go here. You eventually get a short cut where you can skip 1199 01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:24.720 all that bullshit they're like you have to go through. They're funneling you through 1200 01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:27.159 it. It's just a very tight, straight path that you have to run 1201 01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:30.000 through, and it's just very painful. And this was right after you know, 1202 01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.000 you go through another area where all the enemies respond like thirty seconds to 1203 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:36.720 a minute after you kill them, and just constantly keep coming back over like 1204 01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:40.600 like there are a few spots that is just like a come on really yeah, 1205 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:43.279 Like I haven't had anything in that game like frustrate me or anything. 1206 01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.319 It's just been like, well, you know, like this, I just 1207 01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:47.720 need to get better at this thing and do it. Yeah, and and 1208 01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:50.880 that's that like it when I die, it's it's it's never been just like 1209 01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:54.600 god like, it's never been a rage thing. It's just been like, 1210 01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:56.399 okay, well, yeah, these two areas I'm talking about, I mean 1211 01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.840 they're pretty short. But while you're there, like it's it's, it's, 1212 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.720 it leans way more forward frustrating than like a rewarding kind of challenge. And 1213 01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.920 it's a trial and error kind of situation because you don't know where the ship's 1214 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:09.159 coming from, Like in the situation that Jeff was talking about that gatling gun 1215 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.319 guy, you know exactly where exactly right. I like that, okay, 1216 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.560 but but in this situation, when it is a trial and error, then 1217 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.000 there's the forty five second load time and I gotta go farm from where. 1218 01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.760 It sounds like they're going to patch that maybe down to like thirty or something. 1219 01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:24.479 Yes, they did say, they did confirm that patch is coming. 1220 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:26.680 Oh, by the end of the month, they say, which is, 1221 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:30.800 uh, probably what about five weeks after release? Yeah, I guess so 1222 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.479 probably the critical mass of people who are going to play through that game have 1223 01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:36.319 already finished it once or twice by then. Uh. It's a shame that 1224 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:40.840 YE get that stuff into release. But they sold over a million copies they 1225 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:44.800 announced that as well. That's good, which is a pretty big benchmark for 1226 01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:48.720 that series, because I think, what's what's which series Souls games? Okay, 1227 01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:55.159 I mean, come on, come on, they're all the same game, 1228 01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:58.560 but you know, like the other you know, I think Dark Souls 1229 01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:01.079 did like two million and change, like its entire lifespan or something like that. 1230 01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:04.640 I think like Demon Souls didn't even break a million. It's amazing what 1231 01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:08.520 happens when you put out a game on a console that needs games. Yeah, 1232 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:12.159 people go buy it whether they want. You know, it's also people 1233 01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.199 coming over to this thing, though, you know, it's not just that. 1234 01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:15.560 I wonder, Yeah, I wonder. I mean I guess like that's 1235 01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:17.760 you know, that's kind of the boat that I'm in to some extent. 1236 01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:20.880 You know, it's not like the reputation of these games is not known at 1237 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.880 this point. Yeah, but I feel like the like the thing that I 1238 01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:29.079 feel like I uncover more and more of is that the reputation of that these 1239 01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:31.279 games is completely deceptive, I mean valid or not though it's what people think 1240 01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:34.239 they are. So like, if that's enough to put people off of trying 1241 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:38.439 them, then it's you know, that's clearly not having an effect. If 1242 01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:41.439 they sold a million copies in the first like you know, three weeks or 1243 01:11:41.479 --> 01:11:44.479 whatever, maybe they shouldn't have called it fucking that shouldn't Maybe they should not 1244 01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:47.239 have been all prepared to die at that point in the past, because like 1245 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:50.319 they've been selling it as this fucking edgy man just games fucked up man, 1246 01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:56.520 Fuck you dude, prepared to die? Dick like that shit's stupid. You 1247 01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:00.520 should play more of the game. Yeah, I mean, I'm probably chip 1248 01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:02.079 awayed here and there. I'm curious to hear how you where you fall on 1249 01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.680 that late game stuff. I don't know, there's not that much of it, 1250 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:06.880 but when it happens, it's like, I come on, you're come 1251 01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:10.720 on, game, You're better than this. Yeah, it just sounds like 1252 01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.439 a bad part of the game, Like it doesn't you know, And they've 1253 01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.000 always had that to some extent, you know, like there's plenty of spots 1254 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:16.680 and you know, this game hasn't two where it's like, oh, you 1255 01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:20.159 get poisoned just by standing on this floor stuff like that. You know, 1256 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:25.439 like it's just kind of annoying things that you have to deal with. But 1257 01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.439 those games are full of bullshit. That's kind of the name of the game. 1258 01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:32.119 Uh, more bullshit and blood born. Yeah, it's true, more 1259 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:35.000 than than the previous games, I think, so, yeah, you think 1260 01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.880 so. I think there's more cheap shit going on Yeah, blood Born. 1261 01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:41.920 Yeah, cheap. Cheap is a good word for those two spots in particular, 1262 01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:46.119 even though they're short, Like they're not fun anything else major anybody's been 1263 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:50.920 playing, I'll do a quick rundown, Okay, played uh Pull Nation FX, 1264 01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:55.600 I restarted Mario three D Land, I played the PlayStation plus three games 1265 01:12:55.960 --> 01:13:00.439 Tower of Guns and the Never loane Eskimo game that's kind of like Limbo, 1266 01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:04.279 and also spent an afternoon playing through The Fast and the Furious thing, which 1267 01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:08.279 I actually liked a lot. I thought it was really cool. I want 1268 01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:12.520 to mess with three DC isn't don't think it's a standalone thing that was only 1269 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:16.600 three until the ten how much I don't know how to cross now, dude, 1270 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:18.399 Yeah, it's it's great. It was a good, like three or 1271 01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:21.800 four hours as someone who like, never bought for It's the horizon, Like 1272 01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:25.640 I just kind of watched you and the thick looks and everything. It's a 1273 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:29.359 great introduction to the way those games work. Looks good, plays good. 1274 01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.279 It's just a easy that was an achieving points if you care about that stuff. 1275 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.199 But now I was just totally in the mood for a racing game and 1276 01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:38.680 didn't even know it downloaded it for free, and yeah, I spent three 1277 01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:40.920 or four hours playing it. Does it have like as a smooth, like 1278 01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.039 trunk aided kind of progression cycle, like to totally feel like you're going from 1279 01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:46.239 zero to one hundred by the time you it's basically you're like collecting these ten 1280 01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:48.720 cars, which I haven't seen Fast seven, but I've seen in the trailer 1281 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.479 when they're all coming out of this cargo plane, and it seems like it's 1282 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:54.840 almost like a prequel to that, like you're collecting all these cars and like 1283 01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:58.720 it ends with a cargo plane thing. Yeah, it's I mean, there's 1284 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:00.800 nothing crazy about it. I mean it doesn't like show a bunch of like 1285 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.399 clips from the film. There's no voice acting except for a ludicrous ludicrous is 1286 01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:09.279 you're like narrator guy. Yeah, yeah, no, totally great. Even 1287 01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.159 if it's ten bucks, I think it's totally worth it. Considering it was 1288 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.640 free, I was even more impressed by it. Sounds awesome, So make 1289 01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:16.119 you want to go back and play Horizons? Who know? Actually, yeah, 1290 01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:19.199 it's a super effective way to to get people to want to play that 1291 01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:23.159 because at the end it actually just straight up links you to like, hey, 1292 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:25.960 thanks for playing Fast and Furious. Do you want to buy portsa like 1293 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.479 hearing buy the digital version, you can buy the Digital Deluxe, And I 1294 01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.000 did actually consider buying it for a second, Like I wonder that going from 1295 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:33.600 I mean, that's like mostly like American muscle cars and stuff, right, 1296 01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:39.680 but isn't not not not completely No, there's like a Supras and stuff, 1297 01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.399 like it's Fast and Furious thing like there's there's there are iconic American muscle cars 1298 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.079 as part of that franchise, but it's not so yeah, you're getting like 1299 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:49.039 Chargers, but then you'll get a McLaren and the like because because Horizons, 1300 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:53.079 who was very European, yeah, influenced straight Yeah, there's a lot of 1301 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:54.920 that in this too, all right, but it still has the cars. 1302 01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.039 I mean you know, the cars come from all over in that game, 1303 01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.800 all right. That's cool. Yeah, it's nice to hear that things. 1304 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.920 It's nice when an advert game also it turns out to be like worthwhile. 1305 01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.319 Yeah, one of the best examples that I've seen for sure. I guess 1306 01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:10.880 that's uh, that's cool. I still haven't seen that movie either. It 1307 01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.720 wants to fucking go to a movie theater. Yeah, I'm kind of with 1308 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.239 you, Phil, Like it's like maybe once a year for me at this 1309 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.439 point. Wow, yeah, that's about on average. Like when it comes 1310 01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:23.000 to actually like visiting a movie theater and sing a movie, it's probably one 1311 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.399 per year. Yeah, yeah, you know, I got a big TV 1312 01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:29.880 in a blue right player. Totally like the experience of like being close to 1313 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:34.399 this big ass fucking TV with this good sound system and the only asshole there 1314 01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:36.239 is me. I was gonna say, if you live in a house and 1315 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:42.039 you don't have to ride your volume, yeah, control because whatever sounds even 1316 01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:48.000 better, Like yeah, why you know they need to they need to eliminate 1317 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:53.800 movie theaters and just put this ship out on discs. Maybe I'm not ready 1318 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:58.439 for that time a while. It's fun sometimes I don't know, it's sometimes 1319 01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:00.359 it feels like a lot of effort or you know, it's very time consuming. 1320 01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:03.119 Yeah, it's got the kind that the price doesn't make sense a lot 1321 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:08.680 of times, Like you know, the cost to then own the movie later 1322 01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:12.640 versus price of movie tickets, you know, like that's yeah, but you 1323 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:15.239 know, plus you know you factor in like length of the movie plus time 1324 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:16.199 to get there and get home and blah blah blah, and like all of 1325 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:17.920 a sudden, you don't even have time to do that on a weeknight. 1326 01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:23.039 I will grant you that I don't have D box seats in my house, 1327 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:28.159 So there's why not. It could be because they're super fucking expense. Can 1328 01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:30.000 you actually get them from the home. They're super fucking the home D box 1329 01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:32.239 experience? Wait, how do you get D box movies? There's like, 1330 01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.800 I'm not I'm sure regular blue radiers don't have the D Box. Yeah, 1331 01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:38.720 I don't think they do, but I want to say that, like D 1332 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:44.159 box will send you the motion code for movies, and I actually I actually 1333 01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:46.439 don't know. I actually don't know what the process of that'sulous of d Box 1334 01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.840 in the home really is. I can't know how to do this. Now, 1335 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:54.880 the seats move, that's fucking great. See some speakers on them too. 1336 01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:59.680 Seems like a missed opportunity. Yeah, I'd be a little weird. 1337 01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:03.800 They're like vibration in the seat. Yeah, they can lean, they can 1338 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:06.720 lean, they can shake. You know, they'll kind of shimmy. They'll 1339 01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:12.760 still shake and shimmy entertainment and and you know, someone we've talked about it 1340 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.079 before, but like, you know, someone has to watch the movie and 1341 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.239 then figure out how to make the seats move and accordant, you know, 1342 01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:20.479 with the actions. So it was the last Fast and Furious movie, I 1343 01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:25.600 think where they you know, were in Rio and as the you know, 1344 01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:29.840 the big statue and there's a helicopter shot of it kind of panning around the 1345 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:35.359 statue and then the seat waves in kind of like a full one eighty kind 1346 01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:43.079 of or around the back to the helicopter to simulate the panning around the statue. 1347 01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:45.560 Where is this, I've never even heard of it. It's a select 1348 01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:48.399 it's actually, I mean, if you want, like if you have a 1349 01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.000 fucking theater like this in your area, it's a nice trick to get good 1350 01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:55.920 seats for a movie because you have to reserve those seats specifically and then you 1351 01:17:56.039 --> 01:17:59.640 pick like I want the ones in the middle, and then you get you 1352 01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:01.199 know, like good seats for a movie on top of that. So that's 1353 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.880 actually like a good way if you're especially if it's like opening weekend for a 1354 01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:09.000 movie, it is probably gonna be close to sold out, Like you can 1355 01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:12.199 just usually get in there and just reserve those d box seats that that's always 1356 01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:17.560 been a it's a hot life hack, ye for going to the movies, 1357 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:25.479 lashed a minute movie trips, nice movie hacke. Yeah, they had like 1358 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:28.239 a VIP like a seating area they didn't have I don't know if they had 1359 01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:30.239 the D box stuff in there, but it's like you'd you pay like a 1360 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.920 dollar or two extra and you get these really nice reclining leather seats. They 1361 01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:35.319 bring food to you. There's a full bar right to your left, and 1362 01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:38.560 it's like, damn this this is the way to do it. I like 1363 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:42.359 that the food and bar thing is becoming more and more prevalent in movie theaters. 1364 01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.000 Yeah. Yeah, there's the end of studio movie grill shit like that, 1365 01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:48.119 which is great for families to want people fucking clinking around plates and fucking 1366 01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:53.840 drup dropping drinks like yeah, I've dropped a fucking empty beer bottle and movie 1367 01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:58.439 theater before, and let me tell you it's fucking loud, loud. But 1368 01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:01.680 a lot of those places plastic bottles. Well, I mean I'm not buying 1369 01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:06.399 the ones that they're selling them. Yeah, by oh, they just don't 1370 01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:10.800 have big enough bottles. Uh. Yeah, I appreciate a good like art 1371 01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:14.479 house movie theater that'll serve like in a beer and shoul like an Alamo Drafthouse 1372 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:19.199 or something's gonna be one here in San Francisco for real ship Yes, okay, 1373 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:23.600 yeah, I just like you, especially when it comes to like smaller 1374 01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.760 movies like that, those the ones that are often day and date digital releases 1375 01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:28.319 too. So it's just one of those things like, oh, you know, 1376 01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:30.880 I'm just gonna just get this and wash it at home. Yeah. 1377 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:34.960 I have beer here too, as it turns out, and I don't want 1378 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:38.479 to wear pants. It's all yeah, now you're talking. Yeah, you 1379 01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:42.199 can drop bottles all day at home physically. Who's the funa. You find 1380 01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:44.760 me a movie theater where you don't have to wear pants and maybe we'll talk. 1381 01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:50.119 All right, I can name one. But they tore down. Oh 1382 01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:55.479 boy? Uh, how about we discuss some news. Sure, now, 1383 01:19:56.079 --> 01:20:00.840 let's move on to the headlines of the day. Guys. Catch the hubbub 1384 01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:03.960 last week coming out of the ESA. I hate a hubbub. Yeah, 1385 01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.039 I'm just kidding. I love a gud How about a ballet? Who? 1386 01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:10.119 Yeah, Valley was okay, more of a hubbub kind of guy had some 1387 01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:14.680 kind of fiasco. Oh yeah, talk okay, this definitely has the making 1388 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:18.399 of a fiasco. Ruff Uh. This definitely. Yes, this slopper knocker. 1389 01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:23.239 Yeah. No, I just learned recently that I have been pronouncing the 1390 01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:27.680 word kurfuffle with an extra L for years. You've been saying kurf fluffle. 1391 01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.319 Yes, oh no, is that just me? Since you you automatically knew 1392 01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:33.239 how I was mispronouncing. No, it's just it's just fun. It's a 1393 01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:36.199 calm. Okay, I think it's I still think it sounds better like, 1394 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:40.279 yeah, that's fine. You got the word fluff right there, because the 1395 01:20:40.399 --> 01:20:44.079 kurf fluffle implies something fluff like, right, I think saying words wrong. 1396 01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:46.119 It's fun. Yeah, as long as you do it knowingly, sure, 1397 01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:53.159 lean into it, then it's okay. Well John Kim, yep, that's 1398 01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:58.359 not fun. Yes. So so last week John Kim filed a brief with 1399 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:05.359 so. So this all revolves around the DMCA Digitalmullium Copyright Act. Awesome Yeah 1400 01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:10.319 things sure, cool, so great number of things it does, so so 1401 01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:14.439 buckle up. So the I believe this originated with the EF, the Electronic 1402 01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:17.159 Frontier Foundation. You know they fight for electronic liberty. Yeah, they did 1403 01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:23.359 that song unbelievable, Yes, and they certainly did. But they basically were 1404 01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:27.359 petitioning a change to the DMCA to get around some kind of you know, 1405 01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:32.199 pretty broad anti piracy measures in the interest of resurrecting games that don't function on 1406 01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:36.239 their own anymore, specifically like games that have to contact some kind of server 1407 01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:41.279 that no longer exists and stuff like that. Uh. And basically the EESA, 1408 01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:45.720 which is the you know, the industry association, the thing that publishers 1409 01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:49.000 entertainment software associations, Yeah and not they put on E three. Yes, 1410 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:53.439 but they're you know, they're let's let's face it here, they're more of 1411 01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:56.399 an industry advocacy group than a consumer group, yep. Or they're not at 1412 01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:59.319 all a consumer group. Yes they are. They are not, which probably 1413 01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:01.000 makes it not that surprising that they are fighting this thing tooth and nail. 1414 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:04.920 Yeah, they very broadly are rejecting the idea that you should be able to 1415 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:10.640 hack old games and consoles that don't work on their own anymore to make them 1416 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:14.079 continue to work, right, Uh, you know, citing all the precision 1417 01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:18.359 the provisions excuse me in the DMCA that currently stop you from doing any of 1418 01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:23.199 that stuff legally. Right. So kind of the rub here is that, 1419 01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:29.680 uh, for preservationists like you're basically breaking the law by trying to modify games 1420 01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.199 that don't function anymore to make them continue working. So like you know, 1421 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:35.239 if you're gonna put games in a museum or something, right, but you've 1422 01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:39.479 got you've got Suddenly you've got an illegal display of a game. Hell yeah, 1423 01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:43.920 yeah, no, yeah, that that's yeah, that is unfortunate. 1424 01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:47.560 Yeah. Uh fucking play Resident Evil Outbreak. God damn it, I'm gonna 1425 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:50.399 do. Oh. I don't think that this needs to cover all such games. 1426 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:53.840 Okay, Oh well, I think in that case, like that one 1427 01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:56.159 behind that one is almost like, you know, if you're doing it right, 1428 01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:59.800 you're not actually modifying and hacking the game, you're running a private server. 1429 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:02.399 That point, which is I think a separate might could be a separate 1430 01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:08.800 situation. I think this might apply more to let's say, like the original 1431 01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:13.680 Xbox where Xbox Live is no longer available, and uh, you know, 1432 01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:17.079 there would be some games that would only have been available in that fashion, 1433 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.000 or or games that only work if those servers are up there. I've actually 1434 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:24.279 done and a shut down mmo, like the Matrix Online right right, I'm 1435 01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:28.399 not actually it's private services about that, right? Maybe? I mean it's 1436 01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:30.079 it's it's pretty tough for us talk about the stuff because none of us are 1437 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:32.920 lawyers. That's not true. I don't well okay, I'm not a lawyer. 1438 01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:36.479 Dan's a lawyer. Okay, lawyer right now? Yet are you where 1439 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:41.000 where? What states are? Are you re representative forty eight of these states? 1440 01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:45.840 Okay? Gotcha? I saw some discussions if you remember be net d 1441 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.359 Yeah, yeah, that was ago. It was like the homebrew kind of 1442 01:23:48.359 --> 01:23:51.680 like Battlenet replacement like that got shot down in court, like Blizzard won that 1443 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:56.079 right, and that was an external thing that was not as far as I 1444 01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:59.199 know, that was not modifying the clause of reverse engineering of like you'd have 1445 01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:03.119 to modify the client such that it would know to point at that server that 1446 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:06.720 but that's something that you could do with a proxy, right, It's not 1447 01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:10.760 necessarily something where you're modifying the game itself. Right. So the point the 1448 01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:15.520 point is that businesses have fought very broadly against any such modifications. Yeah, 1449 01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:18.000 I mean either end in some on some cases it's like, you know, 1450 01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:24.239 they don't want you to be able to play that game for free forever. 1451 01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:27.680 What if they want to reissue, let's sell it to you all over at 1452 01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.399 least fucking remasters and everything else that comes out, like you know, like 1453 01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:34.159 Nintendo selling virtual console games, like all this stuff like game preservation flies in 1454 01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:39.479 the very face of all the fucking rereleases and shit that everyone is doing these 1455 01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:44.680 days, right, uh, and that sucks. We don't want you to 1456 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:46.760 mess with this old thing because just on the off chance that we might want 1457 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:48.880 to sell it to you again late exactly. Yeah, it's not enough that 1458 01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:53.720 they're you know, like it's enough that they would want to theoretically be able 1459 01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:56.199 to do that, right. I feel like even if they have no intention 1460 01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:59.640 of ever ever ever doing that, Yeah, they want to like reserve the 1461 01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:01.600 right to do so. Yes. I feel like it's kind of the same 1462 01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:05.399 thing as as like, you know, when when like Disney came in and 1463 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:09.079 bought Lucasfilm and then people were saying, like, oh, what if like 1464 01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:12.880 Tim Schaefer went and bought back Full Throttle and Grim Fandango or something. It's 1465 01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.880 like it's the same situation of like a mega corporation like Disney is never going 1466 01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:19.399 to do anything with Full Throttle, but it's also not worth it to them 1467 01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:24.199 to sell that off because they just in case, yeah, it's better for 1468 01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:26.760 them to own the rights to that, except that they I mean, isn't 1469 01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:29.000 that one of the games they're doing. They didn't, they never announced full 1470 01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:30.399 throttle. They did Grim Fantego, but the gram they announced this, that 1471 01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:34.680 are they doing Day of the Tentacle. But but again they they they provision 1472 01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:38.199 people to do those things. They don't sell it off whole exactly. Yes, 1473 01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:42.039 Like big corporations always want to have everything they possibly can, yeah, 1474 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:44.800 even if they're not actually gonna do anything with it, especially Disney as it 1475 01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:47.159 turns out, and they're pretty good at keeping stuff, yeah, and then 1476 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:51.279 very carefully letting it out for people right at a time of their choosing. 1477 01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:55.520 That's that's exactly what all of this is about. But it kind of I 1478 01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:57.800 feel like all of this sort of just ignores the issue of like, hey, 1479 01:25:57.800 --> 01:25:59.800 you pay for these products back in the day and now they don't work 1480 01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:01.560 in more and like, is there any legal precedent around that at all? 1481 01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:04.920 I think it's one of those things where it's the boilerplate stuff that no one 1482 01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:10.199 reads. The end user license agreement sells software as a service, not as 1483 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:15.760 a product that is guaranteed to work forever. That sucks, and that's yeah, 1484 01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:17.319 it does and it's one of those things that I look at it now 1485 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.560 and go, like, you know, it would be really great if like 1486 01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:27.760 there were legal ways to actually go about doing this stuff. And I suspect 1487 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:32.760 like it'll eventually have to happen, but if it doesn't, you'll be able 1488 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:38.119 to get that stuff anyway. That stuff you know that the Internet is what 1489 01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:41.119 it is, right, I mean you know, like if you look at 1490 01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:44.960 emulation, you look at you know, the stuff that's been reverse engineered, 1491 01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.760 and you know it's like the stuff that gets traded around online along those lines. 1492 01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:51.359 If you look at you know, like the ability to run a custom 1493 01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:58.000 server for fucking Fantasy Star online for the Dreamcast, you know, like people 1494 01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:00.000 find a way. I mean, you're not wrong, and like you can. 1495 01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:03.439 You'd be tricky to use it in a museum. That's tricky to use 1496 01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:06.079 it, you know, in academia, you know, because it is technically 1497 01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:11.600 because that stuff would still technically be illegal. File to formalize the stuff by 1498 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:14.199 like adding it to the Library of Congress or something like that's not going to 1499 01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:15.880 happen as long as these these regulations are in place. But like, you 1500 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:19.000 know, fuck the Library Congress, Like I don't give a fuck that shit 1501 01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.119 is out there. Fuck you. I'll build my own library congress of fucking 1502 01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:27.239 old ass games that still miraculously work, because fuck you. It kind i'll 1503 01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:30.039 kind of always has to exist on the fringe of the Internet as long as 1504 01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:31.680 stuff is in place, you know, like and it's like archive dot org 1505 01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:33.960 posted all those doss games and I was looking at it and going like, 1506 01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:38.119 what the fuck are these people doing because they have like n sixty four ROMs 1507 01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:41.800 there and stuff like That's they have huge, full collections of these games. 1508 01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:46.560 You're just like, uh really yeah, like that seems like Nintendo. I 1509 01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:51.279 mean, especially when Pokemon stuff started getting out there and super popular, Nintendo 1510 01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:55.640 was cracking down on ROM sides fucking left and right through the nineties, sure, 1511 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:58.239 because they were just like, here's fucking how to hack Pokemon ship and 1512 01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:00.520 then put it on a flash cart. Like they were still dealing with the 1513 01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.920 physical piracy and you know, repro carts and stuff like that that were coming 1514 01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.520 out of you know, Hong Kong and stuff like that, like they were 1515 01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:15.039 they were suing Bung remember Bung I do. Let's not saying anymore about it. 1516 01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:17.560 Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. I mean, you'll be able 1517 01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:21.239 to get this stuff pretty much in perpetuity. It would just be nice to 1518 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:25.359 know that you're not breaking any standing laws when totally yeah, I mean it's 1519 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:28.920 it's yeah. And but it's like they never made an exemption for like ripping 1520 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:30.640 DVDs, right, I don't think so. No, yeah, you know, 1521 01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:35.720 and it's like, weird, that's not a problem. Yeah. I 1522 01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:39.800 think the it's one of those things where I think the government will either eventually 1523 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:44.079 catch up or it'll just become so widespread that no one's going to actually maybe 1524 01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:45.920 you're able to chase it down anymore. I think with the DVD and blue 1525 01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:49.520 ray stuff, it was the legal hang up was the breaking of encryption, 1526 01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:54.079 right, It was not the reproducing it for a for like a personal backup 1527 01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.399 or something. I think so yeah, because because you know, way back 1528 01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:58.720 when used to be able to like, you know, back up becausette tape 1529 01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:00.720 once or something. What whatever the law over the law, you can make 1530 01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:04.920 one personal backup or whatever I can. I can. I can basically read 1531 01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:08.880 one line from this arts technical story and some the whole thing up. Let's 1532 01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:12.840 hear it. While the EFF wants a games online infrastructure to be considered abandoned, 1533 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.640 six months after centralized servers you're taken offline. The ESA argues that such 1534 01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:19.960 games are still under copyright and may still have a legitimate commercial life going forward. 1535 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:24.439 You may have may have Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean it's 1536 01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:28.319 of course, like you know, you you of course they would represent that 1537 01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:30.399 position. Yeah, the same way back when fucking SOAPO was going around, 1538 01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:32.279 like you look at the companies that we're supporting that You're like, oh, 1539 01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:38.800 of course their their corporate interests very much aligned with like not giving consumers freedom 1540 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:42.439 to do this shit. Yep. So like, yeah, it sucks, 1541 01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:45.680 but it's the ESA. So yeah, I was gonna say, if anything, 1542 01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:46.960 it really drives home the point that you know, the ESA is, 1543 01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:51.439 like you said, it's very aligned with the interests of its corporate members and 1544 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:56.920 is effectively kind of the video game equivalent of you know, the MPa, 1545 01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:00.079 the recording industry and most picture industry. Yeah, groups, the equivalent groups, 1546 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.239 and and it's one of those situations where I'm sure there are plenty of 1547 01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:08.560 people, plenty of game creators that don't agree that that stuff should be as 1548 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:13.199 locked down and would probably speak out. I think that's you know, like 1549 01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:16.000 the members of that organization to effect change, have to step out and go 1550 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:19.600 like, hey, this actually doesn't represent us the way we want to be 1551 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:25.399 represented. This needs to change. The question is, are the people who 1552 01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:29.199 have those opinions in positions of power significant, you know, sufficient sort of 1553 01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.720 the rub I guess, actually get out there and say that publicly. Yeah, 1554 01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:36.319 uh, yeah, that's unfortunate. H And I guess I don't know. 1555 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:42.079 I don't know. I don't know what the like the next step is 1556 01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:44.920 for the stuff. I don't know if I actually believe there is a hearing. 1557 01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:45.840 Yeah, I mean it makes sense that, yes, they would have 1558 01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:48.880 that here in the position, but it's this all ask still has to lead 1559 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:53.199 to some kind of actual court thing here. It is the Yeah, the 1560 01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:57.560 US Copyright Office is going to be holding public hearings May nineteen through twenty first 1561 01:30:57.640 --> 01:31:01.399 in DC and Los Angeles on these exemptions. So it's not it's not a 1562 01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:04.279 settled issue at all, Right, it's just the essay coming out and kind 1563 01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:09.439 of doing what they predictably would do. Yeah, it's it's what they assume 1564 01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:13.600 or I guess what they know that the companies that are part of the organization 1565 01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:16.800 would want. Yeah, I suppose, but I guess you'd have to ask 1566 01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:18.960 all the individual companies what they think about. Oh, you know, they're 1567 01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:23.239 business people and all those companies, they're totally for this fucking lock it down 1568 01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:28.199 internet hackers hack on our video games. Yeah, so the newdy people in 1569 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:33.479 them, Nah, stay tuned, we'll see what happens. We proved to 1570 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:39.680 be incredibly clairvoyant last week and predicting the announcement of a new X game because 1571 01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:42.000 that got announced. Oh right. In fact, I think that I think 1572 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.760 that leaked a matter of hours after the podcast went up. Yeah, uh 1573 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:53.880 DSX mankind divided faces a Foley. Finally all Merge its one game, not 1574 01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:56.279 a whole lot announced for this. I mean, there's a little kind of 1575 01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:59.880 a short two paragraph summary, but they did not indicate even what year it 1576 01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:01.640 coming out. I would kind of assume it'll be this year, but they 1577 01:32:01.680 --> 01:32:04.640 didn't say that. I'm gonna go ahead and assume it'll be next year because 1578 01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:10.720 two Raiders out this year. Yeah, you're probably right. I just why 1579 01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:14.359 announce it now right before E three when I guess maybe they'll show it at 1580 01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:16.399 E three, But I don't know. Maybe I'm still thinking in the kind 1581 01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:20.880 of the classical marketing mentality for video games is announced like somewhere around six months 1582 01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:26.560 before ship right, I don't unless it's something crazy like Destiny or Skyrim and 1583 01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:30.199 you can get Everyone thinks everything is Destiny or sky Rim or this huge thing 1584 01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:32.039 and they think they can get away with it. So everyone tries to make 1585 01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:34.359 their announcement the huge deal in the world. And then you're like, it's 1586 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:38.159 it's of course you're making a day Sex sequel, Like you said that, 1587 01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:42.680 you said as much a long time ago. Yeah, but great, they 1588 01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:45.640 should fucking make this game. Tell yeah, Adam Jensen is back. Yeah, 1589 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:48.439 motherfucker's that game is all right? I mean to read the thing, 1590 01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:54.319 is it just say Adam Jensen is back, motherfucker? It does mention Adam 1591 01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:58.960 Jensen doesn't quite say it in such a charged language. Takes place in twenty 1592 01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:01.079 twenty nine, two years at the events of the Last Game and the infamous 1593 01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:04.640 aug incident. Oh yeah, is that ring any bells? I don't know, 1594 01:33:04.760 --> 01:33:08.199 man. That resulted in the death of millions the hands of those who 1595 01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:13.159 had installed augmentations, so that that's them choosing and ending as canon. This 1596 01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:15.159 is basically, oh was that a player choice thing? I think I'd ever 1597 01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:17.640 finished that game. So they're going the game ended with you like walking up 1598 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:21.600 two machines and flipping switches based on which ending you want. I pressed press 1599 01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:25.560 press this button for good ending basically, and then run around the corner to 1600 01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:28.720 get the weird secret ending. It sounds like they're going with full on cyborgs 1601 01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:30.720 versus normis though, right. Yeah, from the sound of this, Yeah, 1602 01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:34.760 just like Google glass. Yep. This event has created a huge divide 1603 01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:40.920 between those who have augmentations and those who do not cyborgs or people to let 1604 01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:45.039 me wear these fucking Google glasses into the bathroom. There's mention of various factions 1605 01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:51.079 looking to nepia the public by twisting public opinion of augmentation like Google for example. 1606 01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:56.680 Man kind of divide. It also continues the story of Adam Jensen, 1607 01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:02.920 former biotech company security chief, turns super augmented anti terrorist agents. Uh. 1608 01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:05.600 Yeah, it's all you know. There's not a lot of hard information in 1609 01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:09.039 here. Yeah. They put out a trailer and some screenshots. It looks 1610 01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:12.159 like more DSX fucking a. It still looks pretty black and gold. Yeah 1611 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:15.079 for the most part. Uh. There's a shot going around of like crisis 1612 01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:19.239 style holding your gun up and like you know, manipulating a bunch of like 1613 01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:24.520 attachment points on the gun. Is that new? Was it? Some of 1614 01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:30.439 the specifics surrounding das X the previous game have eluded me escape it has been 1615 01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:33.760 a while, it's like twenty eleven. It's just I was wondering if that 1616 01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:36.159 MENTHOS was gonna be more of a shooter, because I know that previous game 1617 01:34:36.199 --> 01:34:39.880 did let you go pretty much full stealth if you wanted to, Yeah, 1618 01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:42.319 you go either way. I assume that this. I would assume that this 1619 01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:47.880 would go with the same route. But hey, obviously I really liked that 1620 01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:51.840 that last game. Yeah, the bosses were you know, obviously it was. 1621 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:56.239 It was. I'll say it was shockingly well received for how reverend a 1622 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:58.760 lot of people are for DA SX. Yeah, it seemed like the kind 1623 01:34:58.760 --> 01:35:01.079 of franchise that people would be time to hate. So I'm curious to go 1624 01:35:01.199 --> 01:35:03.960 back to it because I've never played any Day a Sex game. But I 1625 01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:08.600 heard that the boss fights originally were pretty rough. But I think for the 1626 01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:12.079 we U one and then that director's cut that came out later, right, 1627 01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:15.239 I think that has all of the rewards those changes. I haven't heard if 1628 01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:17.880 it was like you know, drastically improved or anything like that. But it's 1629 01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:21.159 one of those alpha protocol situations where if you spect certain ways, the bosses 1630 01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:25.720 were fucked. Oh so I want to say that they and then like, 1631 01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:28.760 you know, there was a lot of people digging into kind of post mortem 1632 01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:30.039 stuff and they're like, oh, the boss fights were designed by this different 1633 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:32.880 company, No wonder there's ship you know. It's like and it's just like 1634 01:35:33.079 --> 01:35:40.239 that's irrelevant ultimately, but it was something that the people got very into talking 1635 01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:44.680 about back when that game was originally released. Does it seem like a standalone 1636 01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:45.279 thing, Like I don't need to go back and play one and two? 1637 01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:49.039 Okay, okay, you never played anything? No, not even the last 1638 01:35:49.079 --> 01:35:51.199 one? No, No, that's the one I'm thinking about going back to. 1639 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:57.800 Is that director's cut on PC one sounds like it holds up pretty well, 1640 01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.239 but it is very much like an old school PC game. Yeah, 1641 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:01.399 like you. I mean, I'm not saying don't go back to those, 1642 01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:04.479 but I'm saying, like, for the purposes of like whatever you want to 1643 01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:09.039 know about Adam Jensen's next adventure, just play the last one. Like day 1644 01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:14.600 sex, one and two don't necessarily factor into that absolutely the case from my 1645 01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:18.880 understanding. Uh, hey, Jeff, hello, Tony Hawk five fucking a 1646 01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:26.039 Tony Hawk five. A caterer might might be the name of the next even 1647 01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:29.920 though they're saying it's not. It might be the name of the next Tony 1648 01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:32.279 Hawk. That's that someone made the joke. I wish I could credit it 1649 01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:36.399 properly, but someone made the joke of Tony Hawk's pro caterer. And it's 1650 01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:39.800 pretty good. That's pretty fantastic. I mean you saw the full shot, 1651 01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:42.600 Like they're setting up a bunch of banquet tables in a in a skateboard and 1652 01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:44.920 a half pipe. Yeah, there's a half five bunch of banquet tables. 1653 01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:48.520 A chef took a photo posted on Instagram of him going like I'm catering for 1654 01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:53.000 Tony Hawk, and in the background on a projector was a logo that she 1655 01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:57.159 said Tony Hawk five. Yes, uh and I mean whatever you know. 1656 01:36:57.239 --> 01:37:00.960 Tony Hawk has said Activision has backed up there's a new Tony Hawk game in 1657 01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:03.079 the works. He has said it is something that fans of pro skater will 1658 01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:09.960 likely appreciate and not much more so. Like the details around Hey there's a 1659 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:14.119 new game are already totally out there. But if they call it Tony Hawks 1660 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:18.039 pro Skater five, that's the most baddest assets. Shit, it's pretty fucking 1661 01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:21.680 every in the world, pretty audacious. He said the same thing with Sonic 1662 01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:25.920 four. Yeah I did. I probably actually did. I mean it still 1663 01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:28.760 holds like that, that tactic still holds up if you want to, if 1664 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:30.359 you want to just make a big splash and say, like we're making the 1665 01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:33.199 next one of those games. Super Mario Brothers four would do the same thing. 1666 01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:38.880 Yeah, I'm all for it. Contra four Yeah yeah, uh, 1667 01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:43.640 never mind, you know, quality of the actual final games, but the 1668 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.279 contract for for the SNST they called it Contra four in Japan, and they 1669 01:37:47.960 --> 01:37:51.920 did they I'm not sure, wait you're talking about I want to say, 1670 01:37:54.119 --> 01:38:00.439 or was that hardcore? Just never? There was no fourth Contra on the 1671 01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:01.439 Supernios, was there? Okay? Well, what was the I mean, 1672 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:05.840 the first one that came out Alien Wars it was three? Okay, that 1673 01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:10.359 was three? Okay, okay, okay, got it. I have my 1674 01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:14.239 timeline is all off. Anyway, I know what you're saying. They made 1675 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:16.159 a lot of other Yeah, yes, they made a lot of other Tony 1676 01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:18.920 Hawk games. None of them were called Tony Hawk First Gate or five. 1677 01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:23.359 Yeah, I mean I like thug, Like, don't get me wrong, 1678 01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:28.199 like that was a cool game. Although this is a little weird because weren't 1679 01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:30.920 some of the games actually like like, isn't Project eight actually the eighth is 1680 01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:33.840 the eighth game? Like they were trying to in there in a few cases. 1681 01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:36.760 I think it's just in that case. So in that sense, this 1682 01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:40.680 is a little weird. But but yeah, like so that logo was the 1683 01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:44.279 wallpaper on the PC they were using, oh yeah, yeah, and okay, 1684 01:38:45.079 --> 01:38:47.000 looked pretty stylized, Like the logo was fairly stylized, like there was 1685 01:38:47.079 --> 01:38:49.520 some design work put into that. It's not just looked like the fast and 1686 01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:53.920 the fairiest logo kind kind of but you know, you know, Activision came 1687 01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:56.319 out and said, you know, it's a working title, not the final 1688 01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:59.199 title. But what if it's the final title, you don't make that, 1689 01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:01.720 I mean, like like why would you make that just a working title because 1690 01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:04.920 your working title would be Tony Hawk twenty fifteen or the next you know, 1691 01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:10.680 and then you need something like regardless, like what it represents is exciting as 1692 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:14.560 a working title as a final title. If they are approaching this game with 1693 01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:19.399 the concepts of let's make the next game like those games. Then good, 1694 01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:21.640 great, that is what they should do. And I don't know if that 1695 01:39:21.720 --> 01:39:25.399 will actually work. I don't know if enough people want that to matter. 1696 01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:29.159 I don't know if that game, like a game in those styles, is 1697 01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:32.199 something that people want enough of these days to matter. But fuck it, 1698 01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:35.239 man, let's do it. I mean they tried to remake the original. 1699 01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:43.560 Yeah do that I think was a mess. And the potentially like scary thing 1700 01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:46.039 is that, like if those guys are doing this, so I don't think. 1701 01:39:46.079 --> 01:39:48.039 I don't think we know who's developing this yet. It might just be 1702 01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:53.560 a robomoto they did. They did the ones with the board too, yeah, 1703 01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:59.079 and the remake they did a ride Shred and HD. I don't know 1704 01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:04.319 if they did Downhill Jam No Toys for Bob to Downright Hot a Hot pre 1705 01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:10.560 Skylanders Jam Star Control. Yeah. Yeah, Well, this thing is a 1706 01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.800 guaranteed D three announcement, right has to be totally yea at this point. 1707 01:40:13.960 --> 01:40:15.800 Yeah, so I guess we'll find out soon. But like that whole scene 1708 01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:20.359 though, that photo just weirded me out so much, Like can you think 1709 01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:26.640 of a grungier like more down in dirty sports than skateboarding, like to make 1710 01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.479 your name in skateboarding, and then like here's this thing, like now that 1711 01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:33.399 you're the elder statesman of the sports, Like here's all these tables set up. 1712 01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:36.479 It's like it's fucking chardonnay and caviar in the middle of a half pipe. 1713 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.359 Like it just feels so incongruous. You don't know what food they were 1714 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:45.079 serving. But he was kind of fancy ship followers on Instagram. It looks 1715 01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:48.039 very fancy. Uh yeah, you know whatever. Everybody grows up at some 1716 01:40:48.119 --> 01:40:51.119 point, I guess, you know whatever, Tony Hawks. I'm sure he 1717 01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:55.479 has a foundation that he does and all sorts of other weird businesses. It 1718 01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:57.600 was. It was a weird It was set up in on a half pipe. 1719 01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:00.920 Maybe he just came in a directed place. Yeah, he just came 1720 01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:05.760 in fucking wasted and went and then pooped and smeared it on his face. 1721 01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:10.640 Gg Allen stays and then you know, rubbed that on the table. That's 1722 01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:13.479 the Tony Hawk. I know, wait, it's not. That's never been 1723 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:18.880 to Hawk. You know. Like Tony Hawk's Twitter profile is like you list 1724 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:20.880 all this stuff and at the end of it it just says, yeah, 1725 01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:25.279 I get it, I'm old or you know, something along those lines like 1726 01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:27.119 yeah, you can stop, I got it. Yeah, I guess what 1727 01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:30.319 I grew up. That's great, Like, hey, that's great. Yeah, 1728 01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:34.680 I'm still doing skateboard and guess what, Like everyone can suck you suh. 1729 01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:39.960 Well we'll find out an the three wait till he three. Yeah, 1730 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:46.479 we'll see you D three. But Activision's obviously no stranger to resurrecting old stuff. 1731 01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:51.520 Yeah, I mean they're doing a Destiny follow up. Yeah, I 1732 01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:55.720 was talking about the new guitar here. Oh right that we played, Yes, 1733 01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:57.880 the new guitar. He over that. I thought you were talking about 1734 01:41:57.880 --> 01:42:00.600 the Destiny DALC and that's all right. That's kind of a sick burn, 1735 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:03.399 but okay, well we'll get to that later. Guitar Hero Live, Jeff, 1736 01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.159 Yes, we played it. We did. I would to see it. 1737 01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:10.399 We did. They can't year ago, showed it off and then they 1738 01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:15.680 announced it today. Yeah, they're making a new guitar Hero are obviously duh. 1739 01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:18.720 But they announced the new Guitar Hero and showed it to us, and 1740 01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:24.840 I actually was pretty surprised. Yeah, especially having heard a little bit about 1741 01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:27.640 it going in, Like we had the stuff about like oh it's all FMV 1742 01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:30.479 now and stuff had gotten back to us. Yeah, on the way over 1743 01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:32.079 there, and you're just like I was like, there is no way that 1744 01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:38.199 anything about this sounds interesting or good. Yeah, But then it kind of 1745 01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:42.239 made a better first impression I think than definitely expected. I came away from 1746 01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:44.159 it going like, Okay, I get it, like this is cool, 1747 01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:47.960 like but for me, like, it's all about the guitar itself. So 1748 01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:55.399 they're making a new guitar six buttons. Yeah, that's six buttons. I 1749 01:42:55.479 --> 01:42:58.560 think i'd saw like three up on top. Three, So it's three frets 1750 01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:01.560 as opposed to the kind of forward that they started with. Or wait, 1751 01:43:02.079 --> 01:43:04.520 there's always five from the beginning, right yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 1752 01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:08.880 right. Was a guitar freeks was three right right? Right? So yeah, 1753 01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:11.319 so they're down to they're down to three frets from the five that they 1754 01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:15.000 launched with. But now they're split into top and bottom, so white and 1755 01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:18.439 black, yeah, sides of the of the fret board. So and so 1756 01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:23.239 each note has an up or a down indication, yes, but sometimes it 1757 01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:25.960 can be both and you have to go across. So it's like you can 1758 01:43:26.039 --> 01:43:29.800 kind of create like the shapes you make with your left hand feel slightly more 1759 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:32.119 guitari. Absolutely, that sounds really cool. Yeah, I like that idea. 1760 01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:35.439 I kind of wonder why they didn't just go all the way and stick 1761 01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:39.039 with the five frets and just split them all. It's not like you have 1762 01:43:39.199 --> 01:43:41.239 to use all those and you know, if you're gonna do easy mode, 1763 01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.079 you can constrain it to the first three or something like that. Yeah, 1764 01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:46.039 it's yeah, maybe they just want to ease people into it and not have 1765 01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:48.920 people that like let's say you play the ship out of Guitar Hero and you 1766 01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:51.520 played it on Expert, and then you just get the new one and you 1767 01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:55.520 hop right into Expert and then there's ten buttons you're working with. Yeah, 1768 01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:57.720 but again, but again, they don't have to make you use all those 1769 01:43:57.800 --> 01:44:00.720 up front, you know, but now they don't have the option of making 1770 01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:03.000 it harder or more technical later. I don't know, like it. I 1771 01:44:03.079 --> 01:44:10.199 feel like I was playing it on the second highest difficulty, I guess. 1772 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:14.560 Yeah, I tried that one one up from normal, and like, you 1773 01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:16.079 know, stuff that I could, you know, I could site read it 1774 01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:20.479 on normal and play it just fine. Like the guitar felt pretty intuitive for 1775 01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:24.039 the most part, Like it was definitely like a learning like Okay, this 1776 01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:26.560 is this and this is this, but then you bump it up and then 1777 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.479 all of a sudden it's like, okay, I need to hit bottom, 1778 01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:32.680 you know, like a white on fret two, black on fret three, 1779 01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:38.520 And then then that's suddenly like a very different thing, and that's kind of 1780 01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:41.039 hard to do. It is hard that the thing I ran into is I 1781 01:44:41.159 --> 01:44:44.000 had trouble remembering which side was the white side on which side was the black 1782 01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:46.439 side. But it's like the guitar picks point up for the ones that are 1783 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:49.079 on the top end and down for the ones that are on the bottom end, 1784 01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:54.520 so it's like another another decent indicator of what the fuck you're supposed to 1785 01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:58.720 hit. It's just it seems like such a seemingly minor change to have that 1786 01:44:58.760 --> 01:45:00.520 guitar said up, but it seems like would have a major impact. It's 1787 01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:04.279 it's the thing that makes it feel okay that they're doing this at all, 1788 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:08.640 because if it was just the same guitar with that game, it'd be just 1789 01:45:08.680 --> 01:45:12.119 like, all right, fucking who cares because it's just guitar. There's no 1790 01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:17.920 full band, uh, and is there even two players? I want to 1791 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:27.039 say that. They did say yeah, and it's set up in a way 1792 01:45:27.119 --> 01:45:30.439 where the additional song model is going to be really weird, and they weren't 1793 01:45:30.520 --> 01:45:32.319 really talking too much about that. So yeah, it's an FMV game. 1794 01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:35.720 So there's like two sections of it. There's Guitar Hero Live, which is 1795 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:41.520 you're kind of solo offline experience or I guess you play it two player. 1796 01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:46.000 I guess, I'm not sure. And then there's Guitar Hero TV, which 1797 01:45:46.039 --> 01:45:50.119 is the online and for you explain all this. So the songs that are 1798 01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:56.239 in Guitar Hero Live the background is a first person shot of what the guitarist 1799 01:45:56.399 --> 01:46:00.399 for that band would be seeing as they play a live show, and they've 1800 01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:03.199 tried to mix the audio in a way that they've shot themselves, shot themselves 1801 01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:10.239 with not the real bands. That actually would have been better that they have 1802 01:46:10.279 --> 01:46:15.399 assembled a bunch of fake bands that are kind of funny and sort of ridiculous. 1803 01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:18.640 Actually, I bet that would have gotten worse facial performances out of real 1804 01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:23.960 bands. These from yea, the actors they're the or I guess they're actual 1805 01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:26.960 real musicians, right, I guess, I guess, but slash actors or 1806 01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.239 whatever. Yeah, yeah, but I want to see the real Keith Richards 1807 01:46:29.319 --> 01:46:31.399 up there looking at you when you're like, well, is he the lead 1808 01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:34.880 guitarist for the Stones? Yeah? Yeah, then you would never see Keith 1809 01:46:35.119 --> 01:46:39.199 because you are you are Keith. That sounds even better game where I play 1810 01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:41.640 is Keith. So we'll get to that in a minute. But the people 1811 01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:45.239 that they have in these fake bands really mug for the camera, like very 1812 01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:47.520 very exactly. I think they kind of have to. Like it's It's actually 1813 01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:51.000 been interesting watching people react to gameplay footage because they look at it and go, 1814 01:46:51.079 --> 01:46:56.479 man, fuck this this is terrible. Who would look at this band 1815 01:46:56.560 --> 01:46:59.520 looks awful? And I think like they're forgetting that, Like when you're playing 1816 01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:01.800 the game, you're staring at the notes and like the background, and this 1817 01:47:02.039 --> 01:47:06.479 is like they have to do these shitty, exaggerated gestures because you're not looking 1818 01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:10.960 directly at them most of the time. So I think it works in that 1819 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:14.279 context. It's a little weird. That said, the third time that they 1820 01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:16.359 ran the Fallout Boy song, like, I think by the time you got 1821 01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:19.119 out there and played it, yeah, I was already tired of that intro 1822 01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:23.119 of like walking through backstage up. Yeah, it was like a whole like 1823 01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:26.119 good luck, like you know, kind of like the kind of ten twenty 1824 01:47:26.159 --> 01:47:29.279 second preamble before every song is just going to be the exact same every single 1825 01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:31.560 time. They're like groupies that are eyeing you up. Oh yeah, yeah 1826 01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:35.520 absolutely. They really lean into the like shitty, over the top rock star 1827 01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:41.119 experience like it's yeah, like any gleeful way, and I think might actually 1828 01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:44.640 be pretty good. It kind is. Yeah. So the crazy thing about 1829 01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:45.760 this stuff, it's like whatever they shot video, who cares. But like, 1830 01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:49.079 the the interesting thing about it is they shot each video twice, one 1831 01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:54.199 with the crowd and band psyched because you're playing well, and then one with 1832 01:47:54.319 --> 01:47:57.199 them like looking at you like fucking come on, you're playing like shit, 1833 01:47:57.359 --> 01:48:01.720 asshole. Oh wow, okay, and they moke. So they I guess 1834 01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:03.760 that we talk to them about it, like they you know, they ran 1835 01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:06.880 through their process. It's actually super crazy, like wait, like almost kind 1836 01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:10.520 of overkill for the thing that they're making. I mean they have they had 1837 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:13.920 emotion control camera on the stage. Yeah, so it replicates the exactly they 1838 01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:18.279 mo capps camera movements with the band on a fake green screen stage or whatever 1839 01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.520 in their studio and then went out and did it for real. So they 1840 01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:26.159 have a robot that makes all the camera movements because they needed to be precise 1841 01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:30.279 for both runs because it's framed by frame accurate movement. So when it transitions 1842 01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:34.960 from the stoked to bummed crowd and stuff like that, it's a blur effect 1843 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:40.399 ages as well. Yeah, and then you never see the camera jolt or 1844 01:48:41.039 --> 01:48:44.720 or move into a different position because they don't line up like the camera is 1845 01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:46.560 a frame by frame lined up. I would think that they would just like 1846 01:48:46.680 --> 01:48:48.800 pan out to the crowd or something, you know, just do like a 1847 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:51.680 blur cut they do. They do some kind of whip pans around. It's 1848 01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:55.760 it's a it is a blur when it does do the transition like it's it's 1849 01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:00.159 it's a noticeable kind of fade, blurry fade from the two between the two 1850 01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:03.720 video because it's still it's still like a reasonably effective it is, like it's 1851 01:49:03.800 --> 01:49:06.720 kind of surprising to see it in action. Yeah, and I think that's 1852 01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:11.439 pretty cool. It also means that they can't really song DLC every week and 1853 01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:15.399 use that format, true, because like they were describing that process as fucking 1854 01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:18.760 intense, and it sounds like it was fucking crazy. It sounded like it 1855 01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:21.520 was like a like a I don't know if they said multi day shoot for 1856 01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:25.479 every song, but it was like a lot of the implication there, I 1857 01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:27.760 think was that they were working like eighty hour work weeks. I'm getting these 1858 01:49:27.840 --> 01:49:31.479 videos shot right for this thing. It sounded very expensive, So what does 1859 01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:34.560 that mean for DLC? Though, that's what the Guitar Hero TV is, 1860 01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:39.039 where the background will be the music video for the song. Okay, all 1861 01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:42.439 right, so that's it's a cost effective way, I think, And I 1862 01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:44.720 think, actually, I think changing the visual style of it, I think 1863 01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:47.960 it's fine because like, who the fuck like cares about the dumb characters they 1864 01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:54.760 made up for Guitar Hero. Yeah, you know, Judy Nails, wasn't 1865 01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:59.159 that Star Slayer? Like wouldn't she based off of like some real life I 1866 01:49:59.199 --> 01:50:03.880 think anyway, she's a nice C's nice. I like her anyway, Like, 1867 01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:09.199 yeah, so, like transitioning away from their goofy like mythos and stuff, 1868 01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:12.600 I think it makes sense at this point. I don't know, Warriors 1869 01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:14.960 of Rock really advanced the lore. I thought, Yeah, I guess, 1870 01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:16.439 yeah, you know, we left this hanging in a lot of ways. 1871 01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:18.880 You know, we need to kind of wrap some of those things up. 1872 01:50:19.760 --> 01:50:25.239 So Guitar Hero TV, they weren't really talking about the business model aspect of 1873 01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:30.039 it, but it is sort of a twenty four hour channel based system where 1874 01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:32.840 you will join a channel and be fed songs, so you don't buy them 1875 01:50:32.920 --> 01:50:40.800 individually. So I don't know, I'm gonna say probably not or maybe there 1876 01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:43.439 will be an option. So there's also an on demand library where you can 1877 01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:48.279 go select those songs and play them. And they wouldn't necessarily pin down like 1878 01:50:48.520 --> 01:50:51.520 what the model was. They just kind of said, like, all players 1879 01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:57.560 of Guitar Hero Live will be able to play these two channels of songs, 1880 01:50:57.760 --> 01:51:03.079 okay, and so it's like, okay, then our additional channels subscription based. 1881 01:51:03.239 --> 01:51:05.920 Is there some kind of free to play at least there's like a coin 1882 01:51:06.239 --> 01:51:10.960 energy system, you know, like am I watching ads to play more songs? 1883 01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:15.239 Am I signing up for a monthly service. Am I buying black access 1884 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:18.640 on a per channel basis? Like that's all stuff they said they were hanging 1885 01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:23.680 on two free, three Okay. This is a super interesting though, Yeah, 1886 01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:25.800 and so like multiple players will be able to get in there, and 1887 01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:28.720 then you'll just see, you know, the names of you know, the 1888 01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:30.920 leaderboard stuff will shift around based on who's playing the song the best at that 1889 01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:33.439 moment, and you can kind of just jump in, jump out, jump 1890 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:36.680 into the channel, start playing, stick around there for as long as you 1891 01:51:36.720 --> 01:51:40.760 want to, and then bounce and kind of go that way with it. 1892 01:51:42.079 --> 01:51:45.840 I thought that stuff seems potentially really cool, and it probably solves the problem 1893 01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:48.000 of like, you know, what do they do for for DLC, for 1894 01:51:48.079 --> 01:51:51.760 add ons, for that sort of stuff exactly. The Yeah, I feel 1895 01:51:51.800 --> 01:51:56.560 like the tech and the techniques that they're employing here generally kind of impressive. 1896 01:51:56.640 --> 01:51:59.840 I think for me it comes down to like, do they go get them 1897 01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:03.239 aster tracks and have the guitar line stop playing when you stop playing I want 1898 01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:08.000 the streaming stuff? Or do they just play the music video and you don't 1899 01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:10.680 really have any real feedback? Yeah, that would be kind of unfortunate. 1900 01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:13.520 Yeah, Like that's the kind of make or break thing for that stuff for 1901 01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:16.800 me. For some big I have about this thing is that the everything they 1902 01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:19.800 showed in terms of song line up in this thing skewed incredibly modern. So 1903 01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:25.680 they have everything announced a handful of artists, Okay, because we only had 1904 01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:28.119 three in our demo. What was it was like Fallout, Fat Boy, 1905 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.600 Black Keys, and Killers, Yeah, which is all like from the last 1906 01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:33.640 like ten years. That's like a larger problem. I think, like you 1907 01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:35.640 know, you look at like rock band, I think they can probably safe 1908 01:52:36.039 --> 01:52:39.640 face a similar problem with like, you know, do enough people give a 1909 01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:43.680 shit about guitar based music in this day and age? I mean for that 1910 01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:45.600 to work, even if even if you treat this largely as a nostalgia piece, 1911 01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:48.520 like a lot of the most iconic guitar risks of all time are from 1912 01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:50.760 like the seventies and eighties, you know, like you need you need a 1913 01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:54.439 lot of that stuff in there, So you're one kind of throwback act in 1914 01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:58.279 the announced artist is the Rolling Stones? Yeah? Really? What else? 1915 01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.199 Can you read all? Some of the others? I can The Black Keys, 1916 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:05.039 fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Gary Clark Jr. Who I 1917 01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:10.279 don't know, Green Day Okay, Ed Sheeran, who just that guy? 1918 01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:15.039 He can captivate a stadium like he's just popular act. Oh yeah, the 1919 01:53:15.159 --> 01:53:18.399 War on Drugs, which is a pretty good band name, The Killers, 1920 01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:24.960 scrill X what the Rolling Stone guitar? I mean, I don't know, 1921 01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:30.199 I don't know. Scrill X can do anything? See an actual like musician. 1922 01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:32.439 Sure he is. He puts out albums, but I mean, does 1923 01:53:32.479 --> 01:53:39.640 he like play instruments? He creates songs? Is there a difference? I 1924 01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:43.640 don't. I always picture the line is he's a computer an instrument. So 1925 01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:46.479 it's like to you like, oh, you know, like that girl talk 1926 01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:48.920 guy that just does stuff on laptops. I don't consider him a musician, 1927 01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:53.600 no, but well he's he's like creatively mixing up other people's stuff. I 1928 01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:57.600 think a creative person an artist in some way. Yes, I don't want 1929 01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.159 to say musician unless you can play an instrument. Computer is totally an instrument. 1930 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:03.159 More. Yeah, I know, I do not know what I'm talking 1931 01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:06.840 about. Let me make that perfect more then, you know, just as 1932 01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:10.600 much as guitars and other stuff these days, this is this is all a 1933 01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:14.520 lot of semantic wankery. Yeah, the delimin ears, pierced the veil and 1934 01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:17.199 blitz kids. So yeah, like it's one of those things where yeah, 1935 01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:21.199 you know, like so like like demographically, I don't know who they want. 1936 01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:25.079 Well this this this list so far seems to skew. I mean, 1937 01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:27.359 I don't don't. It's not even just demographics for me. It's like the 1938 01:54:27.479 --> 01:54:30.600 age girls I don't know who the fuck likes, but like the real the 1939 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:32.920 realities of creating a fake Fallout Boy on stage, I feel like are a 1940 01:54:32.960 --> 01:54:38.479 lot easier to grapple with than making like a believable faux rolling Stone. But 1941 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:41.560 that's only because you don't know or care what Fallout Boy looks like. No, 1942 01:54:41.760 --> 01:54:44.439 I won't, but I have enough of a sense of Fallout Boy that 1943 01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:46.000 when I saw the lead singer from behind with his hoodie on, with the 1944 01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:49.159 hood up like, it took me a while to realize it wasn't real Fallout 1945 01:54:49.159 --> 01:54:51.560 Boy, because it's like, I don't like Fallout Boy, but I've seen 1946 01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:55.239 enough of their stuff to know that guy wears hoodies. Whereas if it was 1947 01:54:55.439 --> 01:54:57.640 all right, if it was like a Hendrick song, you had more the 1948 01:54:57.680 --> 01:55:00.520 disconnect would be more. If they had a Hender I think that's Saving Bowie 1949 01:55:00.640 --> 01:55:04.279 or something, and they dressed somebody up like that iconic rock star and put 1950 01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:06.079 them up there, I'm just gonna be like, come on, but I 1951 01:55:06.159 --> 01:55:11.479 think that's specific to your experience and your your likes and dislike. But again, 1952 01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:14.960 like someone who's a huge my Chemical Romance fan is going to see some 1953 01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:17.279 fake my Chemical romance up there and go fuck this maybe the same way you 1954 01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:20.720 would for maybe, but those but like those fashions are more contemporary, so 1955 01:55:20.800 --> 01:55:25.680 they work in a more just want to know if the scrill x fake band 1956 01:55:25.800 --> 01:55:29.800 will have someone with scrill x hair, Like did they put that prodcasting? 1957 01:55:30.039 --> 01:55:32.520 Like did they just you know, so you're supposed to be a big rock 1958 01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:35.800 star, but you're really just in a cover band. And it's so it's 1959 01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:41.239 it's and for each song it's a different cover band. So they actually give 1960 01:55:41.279 --> 01:55:44.399 those bands names. Yeah, they're all they're they're all like that's that's the 1961 01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:47.079 point. Every thing that they shot, they dressed up. They found a 1962 01:55:47.079 --> 01:55:50.119 group of people that vaguely sort of look like the band, Like yeah, 1963 01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:54.600 in the fashions that those bands, that's what I'm saying. It's like, 1964 01:55:54.720 --> 01:55:57.239 wow, I don't know they went to that extent. That's why it took 1965 01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:00.279 me a good thirty seconds into that Fallout Boy thing to realize it was real 1966 01:56:00.279 --> 01:56:02.600 Fallout Boy, because until you see the guy's face, it's like seeing him 1967 01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:04.640 from behind in the side, it's like, oh, that could be him, 1968 01:56:05.079 --> 01:56:09.159 Like they are they are attempting to make those bands appear like the real 1969 01:56:09.199 --> 01:56:11.960 band, I think, but like only superficially. Yeah, I don't think 1970 01:56:11.960 --> 01:56:13.960 they're like, you know, it's not like we need someone who's this type. 1971 01:56:13.960 --> 01:56:15.880 I don't think they're going out at all. It's just like, this 1972 01:56:15.079 --> 01:56:17.800 isn't fucking emo band. We want a band that looks like they would fit. 1973 01:56:17.880 --> 01:56:23.119 There's hair styles and stuff like, and that's I think that's the approach. 1974 01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:25.560 It's not like, let's make them look exactly like And I haven't seen 1975 01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:27.800 most of these songs, so maybe they go the other with it. But 1976 01:56:27.880 --> 01:56:29.640 that's what I was getting at, where if like, you know, it's 1977 01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:31.119 like they try to do Bowie or something, and they go out and raid 1978 01:56:31.159 --> 01:56:33.880 a bunch of thrift shops to try to find the right fashions to make that 1979 01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:38.039 work, and then white duke outfit or something right like at that point, 1980 01:56:38.159 --> 01:56:41.720 like, I don't know how you approach that problem. Again, as long 1981 01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:44.399 as they're not trying to completely cause play, like you know, like if 1982 01:56:44.399 --> 01:56:46.000 it's Stone, it's not gonna be some stoic lead singer guy. They get 1983 01:56:46.039 --> 01:56:48.439 some guys that's kind of pranting around, like Jaggary, or maybe maybe they 1984 01:56:48.479 --> 01:56:50.479 just don't give a fuck. Maybe they do what they can and just like 1985 01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:54.199 yeah, roll with it. Yeah. So like the band that played the 1986 01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:58.680 Black Keys song is called Broken Tide, Like they just and they you know, 1987 01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:00.640 I'm just gonna the other Like they've got logos for the bands and we 1988 01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:04.840 get back together. Oh great, Yeah, broken tis two dudes, Shut 1989 01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:10.479 the fuck ups, four people. Look at these tides. Broken Tide needs 1990 01:57:10.520 --> 01:57:12.800 little people to make it happen. Yeah. I don't know like that stuff. 1991 01:57:12.880 --> 01:57:16.439 Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know I feel about this. Yeah. 1992 01:57:16.720 --> 01:57:19.680 So it was. It was a super impressive first demo, and we 1993 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:23.840 as we were walking back from the demo, I was like pretty improudly. 1994 01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:26.960 We were both talking about it pretty excitedly. And then it's been one of 1995 01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:29.800 those things that as time has gone on, I've thought about it more and 1996 01:57:30.159 --> 01:57:32.560 gone back and watched the gameplay videos which we have up on the side if 1997 01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:36.119 you haven't seen them, as well as pictures of the guitar and stuff like 1998 01:57:36.199 --> 01:57:41.079 that. Uh, looking at the gameplay and looking at the video footage of 1999 01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:45.199 these fucking goobers acting like they're in a real band, like the magic is 2000 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:47.600 kind of gone, and I look at and go like these people all like 2001 01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:53.279 dipshits. FMB is so seldomly done rights. But again, you're you're even 2002 01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:56.359 even like you know, you're not gonna be focusing on it because you're gonna 2003 01:57:56.359 --> 01:57:59.720 be looking at the screen. But if it's a thing where it's like the 2004 01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:01.319 note, if they're trying to make this another big party thing like Guitario and 2005 01:58:01.439 --> 01:58:04.720 rock Band were, like you might frequently be in a room while that's on 2006 01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:08.520 the TV and not playing and looking hey, look at these idiots. I 2007 01:58:08.560 --> 01:58:11.119 don't think if you're in a party situation, you're probably gonna be in the 2008 01:58:11.159 --> 01:58:14.800 other mode seeing music videos anyway, Like this is the flashy kind of like 2009 01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:16.840 look at this crazy thing we did. It's almost like the single player career 2010 01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:20.039 mode almost exactly. Yeah, which I guess that is by definition less of 2011 01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:24.960 a party thing. Yeah yeah. But also if you're in a party situation, 2012 01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:27.560 you're gonna be playing the new rock band, So like, yes, 2013 01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:30.720 I kind of I kind of want to like state clearly, the only reason 2014 01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:33.319 I'm excited about this guitar ero stuff at all is because New Rock Band still 2015 01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:38.560 exists, like that full band experience with Character Creator. Yes, yes, 2016 01:58:38.680 --> 01:58:41.920 thousands of songs of DLC and like all that stuff is still there for people 2017 01:58:41.960 --> 01:58:43.760 who want it. Yeah, so that's kind of the thing, is like 2018 01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:45.000 they're you know, it sounds like they're not They're not going to let you 2019 01:58:45.039 --> 01:58:48.479 play bass in the new guitar hero even it's just like these it's a guitar, 2020 01:58:48.680 --> 01:58:51.960 right, They're going back to the guitar. Like in that context, 2021 01:58:53.039 --> 01:58:56.359 I'm glad to see Activision trying something different because if they were just trying to 2022 01:58:56.439 --> 01:58:59.479 remake rock band again or go toe to toe with them again, like I 2023 01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:01.039 don't want to see that fight again. Yeah, Like I'm glad they're doing 2024 01:59:01.079 --> 01:59:04.319 something different, but I'm also very glad Harmonics is like staying the course and 2025 01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:06.840 kind of I really want to see what Rock Band four ends up being, 2026 01:59:06.920 --> 01:59:10.359 like just visually, just the look of it and all that stuff, like 2027 01:59:10.479 --> 01:59:13.359 how how blown out it is, how you know, or if it's if 2028 01:59:13.399 --> 01:59:15.439 it feels very small or you know, like like that, I'm really interested 2029 01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:18.079 to see what that thing ends up being. At this point, I am 2030 01:59:18.159 --> 01:59:20.840 expecting the more no less than a next gen rock band, you know, 2031 01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:25.279 like yeah, kind of all the same pillars that held up the last ones, 2032 01:59:25.439 --> 01:59:28.399 just that work on new consoles. You know, I wouldn't be surprised 2033 01:59:28.439 --> 01:59:30.199 if it was like one fewer pillar and it just didn't really have a career 2034 01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:33.319 mode the same way, and it was just more about leaderboards, and you 2035 01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:38.000 know, it was just like, Okay, here's the trappings of rock band 2036 01:59:38.039 --> 01:59:43.119 blitz blown out to be the full band experience visual update, just gonna go 2037 01:59:43.239 --> 01:59:45.039 back to the old to get like the original guitar Hero model of like here's 2038 01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:47.039 your forty songs, just go. I'm just kind of like saying, like, 2039 01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:49.760 we know people just want to play these fucking songs and you don't want 2040 01:59:49.800 --> 01:59:55.239 to go through our bullshit fucking band thing or something, you know, other 2041 01:59:55.319 --> 01:59:57.520 than like we'll give you some customers. I don't. I don't. Yeah, 2042 01:59:57.520 --> 01:59:59.199 I don't really know. I don't really know what they'll do with that 2043 01:59:59.239 --> 02:00:01.840 stuff. Uh, but yeah, you know, like like rock Band was 2044 02:00:01.880 --> 02:00:05.920 the game you played if you cared about DLC, and Activision was never dedicated 2045 02:00:05.960 --> 02:00:11.560 to it the same way. So like, of course rock Band needs to 2046 02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:14.800 be able to import DLC and at that point then they're stuck to the old 2047 02:00:14.880 --> 02:00:17.199 instruments and and all that sort of stuff. And I think that makes one 2048 02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:20.000 hundred percent sense for what they're doing, and I think that's the right move 2049 02:00:20.560 --> 02:00:25.079 but I also think this is one hundred percent the right move for Activision two. 2050 02:00:25.600 --> 02:00:30.680 Like the new guitar feels cool. Uh, and I'm excited to do 2051 02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:34.079 something different with my left hand. Like that stuff makes some sense. Is 2052 02:00:34.119 --> 02:00:38.479 there any other the functionality? I think I thought it's like a wammy bar 2053 02:00:38.600 --> 02:00:40.920 in there. It's got a Yeah, it's got wammy bar and then a 2054 02:00:41.359 --> 02:00:45.399 star power button same as the old guitars, kind of down like by the 2055 02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:48.640 palm. Does it still do the motion star power thing? I don't know. 2056 02:00:48.680 --> 02:00:51.680 I don't know. I think so probably. Why wouldn't it, Yeah, 2057 02:00:51.680 --> 02:00:55.680 I I don't know for sure. Actually, but you still earn star 2058 02:00:55.800 --> 02:01:00.960 power and still deploy it wireless guitar okay, Yeah, and they're doing an 2059 02:01:00.239 --> 02:01:03.640 they'll do an iOS version. Oh that was the other crazy thing. Yeah, 2060 02:01:03.680 --> 02:01:08.039 like the full game will be available on phones, and you can tether 2061 02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:11.359 your guitar to your phone, look your phone, or hook your tablet up 2062 02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:13.520 to your TV, or just play it on the tablet, or just play 2063 02:01:13.520 --> 02:01:16.479 it on the tablet and that. Yeah, it'd it'd have to be Bluetooth. 2064 02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:19.359 That's the only standard that the phones all support. They're basically they're basically 2065 02:01:19.399 --> 02:01:23.960 talking like you'll be able to buy just the guitar and buy the game on 2066 02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:27.600 iOS or something, or theoretically you'd be able to buy like any version of 2067 02:01:27.640 --> 02:01:31.159 the game for consoles and then also be able to buy the mobile version and 2068 02:01:31.359 --> 02:01:34.439 use that guitar there too. That's really cool, and it's kind of it's 2069 02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:36.760 kind of neat, like I don't necessarily want to hook my phone up to 2070 02:01:36.760 --> 02:01:40.439 the TV and play that, but it's kind of cool that it's there for 2071 02:01:40.520 --> 02:01:43.199 people that. Yeah, they would, They talked about that in context of 2072 02:01:43.239 --> 02:01:46.479 like the last Skylanders they did, they actually sold a portal for phones and 2073 02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:51.239 actually made that full game on tablet. It was the same, the same 2074 02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:55.600 basic experience. It's kind of this weird wake up call for me of like 2075 02:01:55.720 --> 02:01:58.600 cheez that you know, mobile is actually powerful enough to just do the same 2076 02:01:58.680 --> 02:02:00.880 thing and all the doing all their graphics are video, so you know, 2077 02:02:01.199 --> 02:02:04.439 those those things can play video just fine. So it's just like here's the 2078 02:02:04.520 --> 02:02:06.520 same game, it just happens to be on your phone. Yeah, Like 2079 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:09.680 I don't know, Like I'm sure there are some people that will use that 2080 02:02:09.720 --> 02:02:12.000 a lot, and some people that will never ever, ever, ever ever 2081 02:02:12.319 --> 02:02:15.640 do it. But it's kind of cool. Yeah, so yeah, I 2082 02:02:15.640 --> 02:02:18.600 don't know, it's kind of it's kind of a mostly optimistic wait and see 2083 02:02:18.680 --> 02:02:21.039 for me on this. Yeah, and it's being done by the studio that 2084 02:02:21.119 --> 02:02:26.640 did DJ Hero Oh Cool Freestyle Games is doing. It's awesome. So I 2085 02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:30.720 just I want to say again they should make a new DJ Hero. Those 2086 02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:31.520 games were great, thought I want. Yeah, you know, if they 2087 02:02:31.560 --> 02:02:35.840 want to shoot first person people looking down at some decks or something, fine, 2088 02:02:36.239 --> 02:02:41.039 it's whatever you gotta do. They should make a new DJ Hero. 2089 02:02:41.319 --> 02:02:47.159 Yea with srilis sure? Why not? All right, Well, let's keep 2090 02:02:47.239 --> 02:02:53.159 this activation bringing old games back train rolling. Talking about the new Destiny deals 2091 02:02:56.039 --> 02:02:59.399 you roasted. You knew it was coming. House of Wolves. The second 2092 02:02:59.439 --> 02:03:01.479 major at in for Destiny has been dated. The rumors were true as May 2093 02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:05.239 nineteen. It will not have a raid. Okay, I'd have to just 2094 02:03:05.319 --> 02:03:08.920 get that out there upfront, because that's all anybody is talking about. Now. 2095 02:03:08.960 --> 02:03:12.840 I'm out. I don't give a shit. You were out months ago. 2096 02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:16.359 Come on, not having a raid makes me a little more excited. 2097 02:03:16.439 --> 02:03:19.000 Really, It's something that you don't have to fucking like a tune for and 2098 02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:24.159 get all fucking like finish all this stuff. As just give me the fucking 2099 02:03:24.199 --> 02:03:27.119 gameplay content, Like, right then and there, what if what does a 2100 02:03:27.239 --> 02:03:30.239 raid? What does it have? What if instead of a raid it had 2101 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:34.000 a hord mode? That makes sense? Yeah, that's considering how short and 2102 02:03:34.119 --> 02:03:36.880 dumb some of the missions in that fucking game are. Yeah, like putting 2103 02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:40.800 some kind of thing that is a little more endless and a little more repeatable 2104 02:03:41.199 --> 02:03:45.199 without it fucking force feeding story shit down your throat, Like what little of 2105 02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:46.319 it there? Yeah, sure, hord mode, they should do it. 2106 02:03:46.359 --> 02:03:49.159 I'll readetitive. I'll read you the quick cut. I mean, all right, 2107 02:03:49.439 --> 02:03:53.600 well, hang on, I'll read their statement real fast. House of 2108 02:03:53.640 --> 02:03:56.560 Wolves will not have a raid activity. We didn't make this decision lightly. 2109 02:03:56.680 --> 02:03:59.279 Our team has been humbled by the reception of Raids and Destiny, and we 2110 02:03:59.359 --> 02:04:02.000 are creating a raid for a release later this year. House of Wolves will 2111 02:04:02.000 --> 02:04:06.920 have a new cooperative endgame activity focused on variety, replayability and skill, a 2112 02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:12.279 new battle arena called the Prison of Elders. So that's your board mode. 2113 02:04:12.279 --> 02:04:15.279 They haven't they haven't liked just enumerated everything that's going to be in this thing 2114 02:04:15.359 --> 02:04:17.640 yet. I know there is a new strike, there will be new story 2115 02:04:17.680 --> 02:04:20.880 missions. Who knows what else, But I don't actually know if I'm going 2116 02:04:20.920 --> 02:04:24.720 to play this, Like I already paid for it, but I don't know 2117 02:04:24.920 --> 02:04:28.119 that I care enough to go back. Well, if it's anything like the 2118 02:04:28.159 --> 02:04:31.119 last one, you can play through the story missions in an hour and be 2119 02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:33.399 done with it if you want. Yeah, but that was not a that 2120 02:04:33.560 --> 02:04:38.640 was not like a positive, awesome experience, Like I didn't get enough out 2121 02:04:38.680 --> 02:04:40.880 of that to feel like you can't wait to do that again, Like it's 2122 02:04:41.079 --> 02:04:44.840 like, yeah, I mean then they also confirmed the Reef as a new 2123 02:04:44.840 --> 02:04:47.520 playable area, so finally a new zone of some sort to go to, 2124 02:04:47.800 --> 02:04:53.640 like a full say. They said they've got a schedule of events coming. 2125 02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:58.760 They're going to do some like weekly streams leading up to this and uh, 2126 02:04:59.039 --> 02:05:01.840 next week the twenty se seconds, they will have a stream a walking tour 2127 02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:04.960 of the reef, okay, so you'll be able to see what the reef 2128 02:05:05.000 --> 02:05:10.119 actually is in terms of a playable area. The week after that they will 2129 02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:14.800 reveal the Trials of Osiris, whatever the fuck that is. I guess everything 2130 02:05:14.880 --> 02:05:18.479 will be Egyptian in this I always was prison of Elders. A week after 2131 02:05:18.560 --> 02:05:21.439 that, something else. A week after that that they haven't decided yet when 2132 02:05:21.479 --> 02:05:27.640 it comes out. I don't know how to feel about this, Like the 2133 02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:30.680 raids are the best content in that game, but also they're super fucked up 2134 02:05:30.720 --> 02:05:33.560 and broken all the time, Like they still haven't fixed all the problems in 2135 02:05:33.680 --> 02:05:38.079 Crona's end as far as I'm aware, And maybe they finally have, but 2136 02:05:38.199 --> 02:05:41.119 it takes some weeks after release to start fixing that stuff, you know. 2137 02:05:41.359 --> 02:05:45.239 Yeah. Yeah, So if they implement this Horde mode and I'm like, 2138 02:05:45.319 --> 02:05:48.239 a more solid fashion and it's easier to get into and more rewarding long term, 2139 02:05:48.359 --> 02:05:51.560 maybe that's a good thing. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, 2140 02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:55.239 that game definitely has good enough combat to hold up a mode like that. 2141 02:05:56.239 --> 02:05:58.439 Yes, I thought, like I thought it was kind of criminal that 2142 02:05:58.479 --> 02:06:00.479 game did ship with some kind of Hord mode to begin with, Like that 2143 02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:04.359 seems like an obvious way to extend the lifespan of that thing. Yeah. 2144 02:06:04.439 --> 02:06:09.760 Yeah, those modes can be good when done properly. Bungee has made a 2145 02:06:09.800 --> 02:06:15.720 good one before, But who's to say how this one's gonna turn out. 2146 02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:16.840 They haven't given any other details. It just depends on like, you know, 2147 02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:19.319 like, what what do they do to the level ramp? And items 2148 02:06:19.359 --> 02:06:21.039 and stuff like that. It's one of those things where it's like, oh, 2149 02:06:21.039 --> 02:06:25.760 I played the Horde mode for you know, the equivalent number of hours 2150 02:06:25.800 --> 02:06:27.560 it would have taken me to play a raid, and now I have all 2151 02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:30.439 the stuff all over again, and fucking I guess I'm done. Yeah that's 2152 02:06:30.479 --> 02:06:34.079 no good. Yeah. But then if they just fucking shit up the game 2153 02:06:34.119 --> 02:06:38.880 with nine more reputation systems to grind out and it's your grinding rep in the 2154 02:06:38.960 --> 02:06:45.079 fucking Horde mode, yeah that's not good either. But all that stuff remains 2155 02:06:45.079 --> 02:06:47.279 to be seen. Destiny is still a very fun game to play. When 2156 02:06:47.359 --> 02:06:49.159 was the last time you played it? I mean it's been months, because 2157 02:06:49.199 --> 02:06:51.359 there's nothing else for me to do, right, I did all the stuff 2158 02:06:51.399 --> 02:06:55.279 that was in there, But you know, it's something like a Hord mode 2159 02:06:55.359 --> 02:06:59.439 is more inherently repeatable. Sure, so if that's something you can pop into 2160 02:06:59.520 --> 02:07:02.399 on a more equal basis, that might be cool. But they also say 2161 02:07:02.479 --> 02:07:04.760 that there is new raid coming later this year, and then it just leads 2162 02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:08.399 you to wonder how they're going to sell it, yep, Like is it 2163 02:07:08.439 --> 02:07:11.199 going to be part of the next like they said on an Earrings call At 2164 02:07:11.239 --> 02:07:14.840 some point like the big expansion will come this year at some point, you 2165 02:07:14.920 --> 02:07:18.640 know. Oh yeah, so are they just holding raids back for that at 2166 02:07:18.680 --> 02:07:24.199 this point? Like who knows if they I mean, if they look at 2167 02:07:24.239 --> 02:07:27.119 the numbers and if they see that raids are the thing that are drawing people 2168 02:07:27.199 --> 02:07:29.720 back to the game, then yeah, they would absolutely attach it to something 2169 02:07:29.800 --> 02:07:31.000 you pay for. Well, I mean you kind of assume there would be 2170 02:07:31.000 --> 02:07:34.520 new raid in every piece of add on content they put out, because that's 2171 02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:38.680 where people are seeing the most value. You know, Well, yeah, 2172 02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:40.920 I guess. But you know, like at the same time, like it's 2173 02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:45.199 nice to actually think that, like maybe each expansion could be a little different 2174 02:07:45.239 --> 02:07:47.000 and add something a little different to the game, right, rather than just 2175 02:07:47.119 --> 02:07:49.960 like have one raid per expansion, Like if they flesh the game out in 2176 02:07:50.039 --> 02:07:54.479 different ways, Yeah, that's probably more interesting to people that might not be 2177 02:07:54.600 --> 02:07:58.199 psyched on just here's a new raid, third raid. Yeah, that's almost 2178 02:07:58.239 --> 02:08:00.640 guaranteed to launch with a lot of the same problem was with the last who 2179 02:08:00.680 --> 02:08:03.520 did right? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I'm like, I'm not immediately 2180 02:08:03.600 --> 02:08:05.359 ready to write this thing off because of this. As much as a lot 2181 02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:07.920 of people seem to be in an uproar about it. Keep holding out for 2182 02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:11.880 hope, man. Uh, but you know I'd still like playing Destiny and 2183 02:08:11.960 --> 02:08:15.640 would like to play more of it. That's cool if there's some valid content 2184 02:08:15.720 --> 02:08:20.359 in there. So because we'll find out on the nineteenth. Uh, that's 2185 02:08:20.359 --> 02:08:22.760 gonna do it for news. Read some emails and then get out of here. 2186 02:08:22.960 --> 02:08:26.760 Email. What do you say? Okay? Email? Rick and Grover 2187 02:08:26.880 --> 02:08:31.760 Beach sent an email to BombCast giant bomb dot com. That's where he sent 2188 02:08:31.840 --> 02:08:35.000 it. Okay, I almost forgot. That's where he sent the email, 2189 02:08:35.039 --> 02:08:41.239 and then it got on the show. It's entitled to Mysterious Jason. I've 2190 02:08:41.239 --> 02:08:43.560 been a subscriber for a few years and so have a grasp on the stories 2191 02:08:43.600 --> 02:08:48.600 of Jeff Vinnie, Ryan Brad, Drew Alex and how they ended up in 2192 02:08:48.640 --> 02:08:52.079 the gaming industry and ultimately a Giant Bomb. Dan has been upfront on his 2193 02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:54.119 path to where he is today. But the missing pieces Jason, I have 2194 02:08:54.239 --> 02:08:58.439 no idea how he got started in the gaming industry and doing what he does 2195 02:08:58.520 --> 02:09:03.520 today. So Seinfeld voice, what's the deal with Jason? What's the deal 2196 02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:09.319 with Jason? Any Uh that right now? Not ready to announce that at 2197 02:09:09.359 --> 02:09:11.479 this time. I'll try and I'll try and make it brief. Jason fancied 2198 02:09:11.560 --> 02:09:15.479 himself like he wanted to get into the video game industry, but probably as 2199 02:09:15.479 --> 02:09:20.159 a programmer. Which school for programmer. It became a programmer programming soul crushing 2200 02:09:20.279 --> 02:09:24.720 bullshit that And uh, actually in college I took a course in like multimedia 2201 02:09:24.920 --> 02:09:28.840 arts video stuff, and I'd fell in love with it, did it as 2202 02:09:28.880 --> 02:09:31.920 a hobby, so all my free time is dedicated to that. Soul got 2203 02:09:33.000 --> 02:09:39.159 crushed by programming gig and decided to try and do the video stuff all time. 2204 02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:41.119 Was it a was it a gaming programming gig? Or no? It 2205 02:09:41.279 --> 02:09:45.720 was not counting software. No, it was that like some shady like in 2206 02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:48.119 a home loan like mortgage place. It was. Yeah, it was you 2207 02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:50.600 crashed the banks. It was terrible. But I also did some like web 2208 02:09:50.680 --> 02:09:54.119 programming afterwards as well for a long time, so that was that was kind 2209 02:09:54.119 --> 02:09:56.680 of fun. But yeah, eventually, you know, i'd been doing like 2210 02:09:56.720 --> 02:10:00.399 a podcast, you know, with a bunch of friends, so that was 2211 02:10:00.520 --> 02:10:03.640 kind of flexing those muscles. Uh, you know, the video game side 2212 02:10:03.640 --> 02:10:07.119 of things went to E three and ship and but yeah, like I said, 2213 02:10:07.159 --> 02:10:11.119 that was all just free time stuff. But I wanted to eventually do 2214 02:10:11.279 --> 02:10:13.960 it as a career, so I started getting more serious with that. I 2215 02:10:15.039 --> 02:10:20.960 found a job where I was actually doing a video streaming and then that led 2216 02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:24.119 to Game Informer after a while. So I had my sets the site set 2217 02:10:24.159 --> 02:10:28.880 on two places, actually game Informer because I have a lot of family over 2218 02:10:28.960 --> 02:10:31.960 in Minneapolis, and also Giant Bomb, so I hit both of those. 2219 02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:35.720 I don't know where I go after this baselined and here you are. Yeah, 2220 02:10:35.800 --> 02:10:37.760 so you just gotta built your production shops on the fly. Yeah, 2221 02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:41.159 like all on my own, Like you know, I never went to school 2222 02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:46.359 for that kind of stuff. Just lots of trial and error, lots of 2223 02:10:46.760 --> 02:10:52.359 research, lots of failed purchases. You know. I had to do things 2224 02:10:52.399 --> 02:10:54.840 in a budget a lot of times. But but yeah, like I said, 2225 02:10:54.880 --> 02:10:58.800 that was all my free times. Yeah, yeah, lots of does 2226 02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:01.479 so cool. Well, there you have it. There we are now the 2227 02:11:01.560 --> 02:11:07.000 history is known. Uh and we can move on to the next email, 2228 02:11:07.399 --> 02:11:11.920 which comes from Daniel uh in London. Right. So, then about the 2229 02:11:11.960 --> 02:11:16.960 PlayStation plus cloud save limit that we were belly aching about last week. Mortal 2230 02:11:16.039 --> 02:11:20.399 Kombat has a specific issue with that that really fucking sucks. What's that? 2231 02:11:20.119 --> 02:11:24.319 Uh? It creates a different save file, a different ten meg save file 2232 02:11:24.479 --> 02:11:28.199 for every match recording. You have what it tries to save your matches and 2233 02:11:28.479 --> 02:11:31.520 then put some stuff like that. So if you are on a PlayStation that 2234 02:11:31.640 --> 02:11:33.640 has auto upload set, now, every time I turn on my PS four 2235 02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:41.760 at home, I get like nine different error messages, one after one just 2236 02:11:41.840 --> 02:11:45.000 pops out. And that's only if you have automatic uploads. Turns yeah, 2237 02:11:45.000 --> 02:11:48.319 which I have everything on my on my main primary PS four set to auto 2238 02:11:48.439 --> 02:11:50.399 upload. But there's no But there's no way too, there's no way to 2239 02:11:50.439 --> 02:11:54.239 go into a game and selectively say just auto upload this save. I think 2240 02:11:54.279 --> 02:11:58.079 instead I would have to go in and selectively say yes to every other game. 2241 02:12:00.239 --> 02:12:01.520 But what I mean is you can't. You can't have the game upload 2242 02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:05.199 just your cling progress, and no it treats them all is just like these 2243 02:12:05.199 --> 02:12:07.960 are saves that are sitting here. You either have to manually up upload just 2244 02:12:09.079 --> 02:12:11.760 your progress or just nothing. Rights you can fill up like one hundred and 2245 02:12:11.760 --> 02:12:16.640 forty three megs real quick with just ten maths or whatever. That's the worst 2246 02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:20.399 example I've heard of that so far. Hich makes it that makes the one 2247 02:12:20.439 --> 02:12:24.119 gigabyte limit on cloud saves sound even worse, but I don't know, Daniel 2248 02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:28.079 writes in with a breakdown that kind of sheds some different light on it. 2249 02:12:28.920 --> 02:12:33.319 Your discussion last week about Sony only offering a mere gig of storage for Cloud 2250 02:12:33.439 --> 02:12:35.439 got me thinking. According to your pals at game Spot back in October, 2251 02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:41.319 Sony stated they had around seven point nine million subscribers to play PlayStation plus. 2252 02:12:41.279 --> 02:12:46.399 We can probably assume that's above eight million by now. This means they need 2253 02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:50.560 to provision eight million gigabytes of space or eight thousand terabytes to give everybody their 2254 02:12:50.560 --> 02:12:54.000 gig. Upgrading everyone to say a ten gig limit would mean having to provision 2255 02:12:54.079 --> 02:12:58.840 eighty thousand terabytes or eighty petabytes of space. That's a non trivial problem. 2256 02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:03.880 If they use something like Amazon Web Services with something like S three, providing 2257 02:13:03.920 --> 02:13:07.000 eighty pet bytes of space would cost northwards of two point three million dollars a 2258 02:13:07.079 --> 02:13:09.720 month. That's not taking into account the cost of bandwidth of uploads and downloads 2259 02:13:09.760 --> 02:13:15.760 to and front consoles to AWS. Obviously, businesses like Sony could probably negotiate 2260 02:13:15.880 --> 02:13:18.720 that cost down but still very expensive. Maybe they could partner up with Microsoft 2261 02:13:18.800 --> 02:13:22.039 and use Azer. I'm sure Microsoft would knock down the price for a laugh. 2262 02:13:24.760 --> 02:13:26.800 Yeah, maybe it's just the case that Microsoft can get away with it 2263 02:13:26.800 --> 02:13:30.079 because they have their own cloud infrastructure and they just just leverage that because they 2264 02:13:30.119 --> 02:13:33.880 don't put a limit on it. So it wouldn't be about allocating a gig 2265 02:13:33.079 --> 02:13:37.359 to every single user. It would be about allocating as much as a gig 2266 02:13:37.439 --> 02:13:39.800 to every user, right, and just being flexible, right, because you 2267 02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:43.039 imagine there are a lot of people that don't use that feature much at all. 2268 02:13:43.199 --> 02:13:46.560 Yeah, right, so like maybe you scale it more to the more 2269 02:13:46.600 --> 02:13:50.520 active users and then kind of make up the differences with people that don't use 2270 02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:52.800 it as much. Like there's got to be a more intelligent way to approach 2271 02:13:52.840 --> 02:13:54.680 it, you think you'd think, But stuff like this MK thing and like 2272 02:13:54.760 --> 02:13:58.079 GTA on PS four can you know they saves on there can really balloon. 2273 02:13:58.279 --> 02:14:03.840 Yeah, it's not a great experience, even though the money and of it 2274 02:14:03.920 --> 02:14:07.720 obviously is pretty complicated. Uh, all right, Andy from seem Valley. 2275 02:14:09.239 --> 02:14:11.920 All right, seem semi semi Valley, see me, I'm not sure, 2276 02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:16.880 Jeff, you know, yeah, yes, I am I okay. He 2277 02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:22.399 writes it in with would you rather would you rather have were you or scorpion 2278 02:14:22.520 --> 02:14:26.680 be removed? From their respective series from this point on. For you God, 2279 02:14:28.319 --> 02:14:31.600 I gotta go with Scorpion. Sorry we saw you that went last time. 2280 02:14:31.800 --> 02:14:35.279 I know, but we use move set is pretty much exactly the same 2281 02:14:35.479 --> 02:14:39.439 as Scorpion doesn't have. But the original were You is street Fighter. Yeah, 2282 02:14:39.479 --> 02:14:41.600 I know. But you can play as a guy that plays like were 2283 02:14:41.600 --> 02:14:45.039 You Without were You, you can't play as a guy that plays like Scorpion. 2284 02:14:45.239 --> 02:14:48.239 You can play a robot Scorpion. That's not that's not part of the 2285 02:14:48.319 --> 02:14:52.319 questions. That's not part of the question. I think if they got rid 2286 02:14:52.359 --> 02:14:56.279 of Scorpion and replaced him with someone who had the exact same move set, 2287 02:14:56.319 --> 02:14:58.920 that'd be fine. Like the character stuff like that could be an interesting twist 2288 02:15:00.199 --> 02:15:03.880 like they've they've definitely like done more with the lower I think with MK to 2289 02:15:03.960 --> 02:15:07.640 where that there's a way that they could make that work and not make people 2290 02:15:07.680 --> 02:15:11.760 crazy throw shit against the wall. Yeah, totally, totally, yeah, 2291 02:15:11.840 --> 02:15:13.199 exactly, Just fucking roll some dice and go, I don't know, this 2292 02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:16.680 guy dies, this guy turns into a robot. This guy's brother now he's 2293 02:15:16.760 --> 02:15:22.119 Revenant but U and then let's give Jackson farmer outfit. Yeah, the Dice 2294 02:15:22.159 --> 02:15:24.880 Club farmer yep, I don't know. I don't know. I just I 2295 02:15:26.560 --> 02:15:30.239 feel like Scorpion has embodied Mortal Kombat less and less over time, Like, 2296 02:15:30.520 --> 02:15:33.840 as you know, the other characters have moved to the forefront and stuff like 2297 02:15:33.920 --> 02:15:37.279 that, the player one default icon is still Scorpion. Yeah, but still 2298 02:15:37.479 --> 02:15:41.159 the because it's always been that way, Like everyone still picks Scorpion the same 2299 02:15:41.199 --> 02:15:45.920 way. I just can't. You know, mister f is the Reu and 2300 02:15:46.039 --> 02:15:50.840 Scorpion is the Ken in a weird way. I've always seen Lou Kang is 2301 02:15:50.880 --> 02:15:54.439 the face of MK over Scort. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like 2302 02:15:54.640 --> 02:15:58.239 there are other people but reused. There are other characters that represent Mortal Kombat 2303 02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:00.720 more to me than Scorpion at this point. But yeah, like the thing 2304 02:16:00.760 --> 02:16:01.640 you want to see, like, hey, we're doing a new street Fighter 2305 02:16:01.760 --> 02:16:03.680 is like show me where you're throwing a fireball? How's it look? How 2306 02:16:03.680 --> 02:16:07.159 many friends? Right, let's look at this ship, Like, you can't 2307 02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:11.960 have a street Fighter without that, I think, saying he probably could, 2308 02:16:11.119 --> 02:16:16.119 but yeah I probably could. Dramatic fashion like that was more for you. 2309 02:16:16.560 --> 02:16:20.199 Yeah, I mean we've already got a demon for you, right, Yeah, 2310 02:16:20.319 --> 02:16:22.159 we haven't Evil. Yes, you know, he's always hanging around in 2311 02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:26.279 the background. Psycho Ken. Sure wait did that happen? Those red fucking 2312 02:16:26.359 --> 02:16:30.479 eyes? Yeah? When did? It was a Marvel Oh yeah, And 2313 02:16:30.600 --> 02:16:35.879 by psycho you mean like in Bison Psycho Power or just like they just needed 2314 02:16:35.920 --> 02:16:39.120 the name. Okay, they needed to come up with a cool name for 2315 02:16:39.239 --> 02:16:41.239 Evil Ken that was not just Evil Ken. All right, that's a little 2316 02:16:41.280 --> 02:16:46.760 different. I guess the Dark had oh sure infused with anyway that makes more 2317 02:16:46.799 --> 02:16:50.159 sense than some of this mortal combat stuff. Yeah, yeah, like yeah, 2318 02:16:50.280 --> 02:16:54.079 kind of yeah, yeah it does. We sure have spend a disproportionate 2319 02:16:54.079 --> 02:17:00.079 amount of time talking about fighting game stories. Started a fighting game tournament and 2320 02:17:00.280 --> 02:17:03.440 his daughter is on a boat at the same time in some war Torner facility, 2321 02:17:03.559 --> 02:17:09.399 Bayman's just getting shot to ship and then Zach has a helica. Wait, 2322 02:17:11.079 --> 02:17:13.600 okay, now I know what you're talking about. Team is just wrestling, 2323 02:17:13.799 --> 02:17:16.319 Okay, cool. When you hit Zach, I was like, is 2324 02:17:16.360 --> 02:17:18.000 it? Then you said Tina, and I'm like all right, now I 2325 02:17:18.079 --> 02:17:22.479 know. And then everyone got thrown into a volcano. Yeah, that's a 2326 02:17:22.520 --> 02:17:24.600 real fighting game stuff. That's that's that's what I want. Tech and eight 2327 02:17:24.680 --> 02:17:28.559 to be a just every fucking stage is the different shot of the inside of 2328 02:17:28.559 --> 02:17:31.840 a volcano, and everyone is just fighting to see who gets to leave the 2329 02:17:31.959 --> 02:17:35.600 volcano, playing tech and ball and yeah, just hey hote dropping every single 2330 02:17:35.639 --> 02:17:41.040 one of them in there. Totally shall use just to sleep the sleeping bag 2331 02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:46.479 like she was out camping volcano. Fuck you, this bear got trapped and 2332 02:17:46.639 --> 02:17:50.440 whoops, fell into the volcano. Here's Paul, He's gonna jump his motorcycle 2333 02:17:50.479 --> 02:17:56.719 over the volcano. Didn't go so well. I'd play that or I would 2334 02:17:56.760 --> 02:18:03.639 watch that. I don't know. Damn all right. Uh. Next email 2335 02:18:03.680 --> 02:18:09.159 comes in from Ryan in Dublin, who's got a little fyi for us for 2336 02:18:09.719 --> 02:18:15.159 finally some fucking real information. Yeah, about his about his indigenous language. 2337 02:18:16.079 --> 02:18:18.600 Hey guys, just writing in to give you a quick tip on Irish names 2338 02:18:18.680 --> 02:18:26.280 after hearing Jeff butcher domnal Gleason's name is Ryan because it seems like Brad would 2339 02:18:26.319 --> 02:18:30.559 be interested in knowing since he's into linguistics and stuff in Irish. To the 2340 02:18:30.600 --> 02:18:35.319 other h indicates the should be pronounced softly. In the case of Donal, 2341 02:18:35.719 --> 02:18:39.200 this means a faint V sound, But for the most part it's totally fine. 2342 02:18:39.239 --> 02:18:43.120 To just admit the letter instead, as long as you're not in a 2343 02:18:43.200 --> 02:18:48.440 guail talked so donal is pronounced dough. Now. The one exception to this 2344 02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:52.280 rule of thumb is where there's a bunch of bells surrounding the letter, like 2345 02:18:52.399 --> 02:18:56.760 in the name's nieve or Quiva. In these cases, mh is replaced with 2346 02:18:56.879 --> 02:19:00.719 a hard V instead of the soft one you'd use in Irish. None of 2347 02:19:00.760 --> 02:19:03.239 this matters, though, because sometimes the names just exist to fuck you over. 2348 02:19:03.520 --> 02:19:09.680 For example, the D and pork is silent and Myra is pronounced Moira 2349 02:19:09.280 --> 02:19:15.520 anyway by Ryan Dublin, Ireland. Do we have a translation for that? 2350 02:19:15.520 --> 02:19:20.239 I couldn't really clicks up at some point. Sorry, I've been working on 2351 02:19:20.319 --> 02:19:22.360 my Irish, but I guess they've got some more work to do. I 2352 02:19:22.479 --> 02:19:26.520 should show you this email later because none of the names in that are spelled 2353 02:19:26.559 --> 02:19:30.239 anywhere fucking close to the way that they're pronounced like. I had got halfway 2354 02:19:30.239 --> 02:19:31.719 through this email and I was like, I can't D is silent. I 2355 02:19:31.799 --> 02:19:35.360 can't do this. I need somebody else to come in. I need a 2356 02:19:35.440 --> 02:19:37.479 ringer. Yeah, we should bring that guy in sometimes. Now you know 2357 02:19:37.920 --> 02:19:41.079 who, I don't know who you saw who you're talking about this bran or 2358 02:19:41.239 --> 02:19:43.360 something? Oh yeah, right him. Sure. I feel like people that 2359 02:19:43.399 --> 02:19:46.799 listen to the premium feed have no fucking idea what we're even talking about. 2360 02:19:48.399 --> 02:19:52.559 Maybe maybe not, I don't know. It was some ad shit. Yeah 2361 02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:54.520 I know. I'll come on, You're gonna hear the name Donald Gleason more 2362 02:19:54.559 --> 02:19:58.120 often in the future, I hope not. He's in the new Star Wars. 2363 02:20:00.440 --> 02:20:03.840 Okay, fine, okay, fine, I didn't know that they're making 2364 02:20:03.879 --> 02:20:09.639 a new Star Wars. No, okay, it's bonding. Hey, guys 2365 02:20:09.680 --> 02:20:13.559 love this at the time. Three's a per fighting system with RPG mechanics ye 2366 02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:18.520 like experience points for leveling up and skills that you could equip depending on your 2367 02:20:18.520 --> 02:20:22.440 play style. It seems like every genre these days has some form of character 2368 02:20:22.479 --> 02:20:26.000 progression in them except fighters. This mode seems perfect for franchises with a deep 2369 02:20:26.000 --> 02:20:30.840 well of fighting systems and characters, like World Combat techn or even a virtual 2370 02:20:30.920 --> 02:20:35.959 fighter Rest in Peace. What gives? I don't, uh, four systems 2371 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:39.280 like that. I don't care for them. But really, I think it's 2372 02:20:39.280 --> 02:20:43.079 hard if you because because if you're building a character that's always changing, then 2373 02:20:43.200 --> 02:20:48.159 like playing competitively, it sucks. It up because you know, you might 2374 02:20:48.200 --> 02:20:50.360 have a character with a bunch of different shit on it than the one that 2375 02:20:50.440 --> 02:20:54.799 you actually play in versus mode. So like, I think that that's a 2376 02:20:54.879 --> 02:20:58.360 good reason not to do in a fighting game, right, what what were 2377 02:20:58.399 --> 02:21:00.520 you? Like, who were you playing in that mode? I never played 2378 02:21:00.520 --> 02:21:03.840 that thing. I think was character, I think any characters Okay, yeah, 2379 02:21:03.879 --> 02:21:05.959 it wasn't like you were. It wasn't like any three had the like 2380 02:21:07.200 --> 02:21:13.799 characters that you could build and add moves to and vision Jinko in Deception or 2381 02:21:13.040 --> 02:21:16.760 whichever one of those Mortal comps. Visually, were you just picking a character? 2382 02:21:16.920 --> 02:21:18.879 Yeah, it was just like Ken, but now I don't know his 2383 02:21:18.959 --> 02:21:22.079 foot does more damage, which like, yeah, like I think if you're 2384 02:21:22.120 --> 02:21:26.760 thinking about fighting games in a competitive way, it probably sucks. But and 2385 02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:30.319 I was, yeah, yeah, I just I don't get into a lot 2386 02:21:30.319 --> 02:21:33.440 of single player stuff and in fighting games, I thought it was funzies. 2387 02:21:33.479 --> 02:21:35.399 That stuff's okay. I thought it was an interesting question to look at because 2388 02:21:35.719 --> 02:21:39.440 ka ext just came out, and you know, they've got their very specific 2389 02:21:39.520 --> 02:21:41.639 take on you know, what a what a fighting game campaign should be. 2390 02:21:43.000 --> 02:21:46.319 But yeah, that was certainly one of the you know, the first incarnations 2391 02:21:46.600 --> 02:21:48.440 or something like that, like an RPG level up pinnet system one of the 2392 02:21:48.520 --> 02:21:52.719 first, not the first. Yeah, sure there's something before that. Yeah, 2393 02:21:52.760 --> 02:21:54.120 you're you're probably right though. I mean that's obviously where fighting games get 2394 02:21:54.120 --> 02:22:00.239 their legs is from the competitive aspect. Yeah. Uh. Daniel little Anna 2395 02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:03.920 right in with a question about the three sixty. Uh. In the Xbox 2396 02:22:03.959 --> 02:22:09.239 three sixty dashboard preview program, an update was recently rolled out that adds support 2397 02:22:09.319 --> 02:22:13.280 for external USB drives up to two terabytes. Yeah, that's sure would have 2398 02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:18.520 been nice to have no ship the whole time instead of that dumb ass, 2399 02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:22.040 arbitrary thirty two gig limit on external stuff. Yes, thank you for finally 2400 02:22:22.159 --> 02:22:26.799 enabling that. It's a little too late, and it kind of busits me 2401 02:22:26.840 --> 02:22:31.959 off that like they had the capability previous to this. Yeah fuck yeah uh, 2402 02:22:31.040 --> 02:22:33.440 he continues, I know it's last gin, but what are the chances 2403 02:22:33.520 --> 02:22:39.079 Microsoft releases another revision of the Xbox three sixty, this time with no optical 2404 02:22:39.200 --> 02:22:41.360 drive, with a form factor in line with a Fire TV or Apple TV. 2405 02:22:43.719 --> 02:22:46.239 It seems like kind of an interesting idea, like if they start selling 2406 02:22:46.319 --> 02:22:50.959 everything in that system's catalog digitally and just I don't think they could get away 2407 02:22:50.959 --> 02:22:54.399 without having an optical drive, because I think there's still plenty of games that 2408 02:22:54.399 --> 02:22:58.600 wouldn't be available digitally want to install onto a hard drive, and you know, 2409 02:23:01.079 --> 02:23:03.760 yeah, I don't know they could, but you know, at some 2410 02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:07.600 point, I guess there are so many discs still floating around out there in 2411 02:23:07.639 --> 02:23:09.799 the wild, yea to not be able to use them at all would be 2412 02:23:09.879 --> 02:23:13.479 shitty. Yeah, I guess you can go get Xbox three sixty games for 2413 02:23:13.559 --> 02:23:16.760 like three bucks. Yeah, unless unless they were pricing the digital stuff aggressively 2414 02:23:16.879 --> 02:23:20.680 enough that it actually made sense, you never would. It's like about that 2415 02:23:20.760 --> 02:23:22.959 most of these games or ten bucks. Yeah, I don't think so. 2416 02:23:22.319 --> 02:23:26.000 Now. I kind of like that idea though. I kind of like the 2417 02:23:26.079 --> 02:23:31.280 idea of legacy support for old systems and like super tiny form factors. It's 2418 02:23:31.280 --> 02:23:33.959 a neat idea, especially if you've got like a lot of arcade stuff, 2419 02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:39.079 like I've probably got three or four hundred XBLA games and I don't want to 2420 02:23:39.200 --> 02:23:41.000 bring out my big thing and connect TV every single time. If I had 2421 02:23:41.000 --> 02:23:45.520 a little like fire TV thing there was yeah, yeah, if you had 2422 02:23:45.559 --> 02:23:46.440 a system the size of a hockey puck, it would make it a lot 2423 02:23:46.479 --> 02:23:50.680 easier to think about that thing around randomly. Want to play Castle Crashers or 2424 02:23:50.719 --> 02:23:52.600 something and be nice to do that? Right? That does sort of solve 2425 02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:58.440 problems games the Best four? What's that connected up via HDMI and USB two 2426 02:24:00.000 --> 02:24:03.000 and Xbox one and then you were able to just launch games out of the 2427 02:24:03.159 --> 02:24:09.200 Xbox one shell off that thing? Yeah? Yeo, man, what if 2428 02:24:09.239 --> 02:24:11.840 you could live in space? Also? Yeah? All right, sure, 2429 02:24:11.479 --> 02:24:18.079 what I don't know, maybe not living space kind of sounds like pain in 2430 02:24:18.079 --> 02:24:20.479 the ass. Let's do it, I do it. I don't know. 2431 02:24:20.760 --> 02:24:24.000 Let's die on a different planet. Maybe would you sign up for that Mars 2432 02:24:24.120 --> 02:24:28.360 thing? Not that Mars thing? No, not that one. But oh 2433 02:24:28.840 --> 02:24:33.040 there's some talk about like getting volunteers to do the first man mission to Mars 2434 02:24:33.079 --> 02:24:35.840 because it's like, well, you're super gonna die there, Like, would 2435 02:24:35.879 --> 02:24:41.959 you do it? Please? I didn't have fun, I got you. 2436 02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:43.879 I didn't have fun stuff going on? Yeah, I do it, man, 2437 02:24:46.000 --> 02:24:48.360 I don't know. There's a lot of practical realities of being in space 2438 02:24:48.399 --> 02:24:50.239 that are a huge fucking bummer that people don't think about, just mainly like 2439 02:24:50.319 --> 02:24:52.959 crapping and stuff. Right, No, I mean, like you're like bone 2440 02:24:54.079 --> 02:24:56.680 like a loss of bone density. That's if you're planning on coming back. 2441 02:24:56.680 --> 02:24:58.799 If you're gonna die in Mars, it doesn't matter, or you know, 2442 02:24:58.920 --> 02:25:01.799 like there's no shielding agains the cosmic radiation that will give you horrible mega cancer 2443 02:25:01.959 --> 02:25:05.159 after however, long, fuck it man, stuff like that. Man, 2444 02:25:05.239 --> 02:25:09.559 Mars. Everyone's gonna die anyway, Yeah, someday, sure, why not 2445 02:25:09.680 --> 02:25:11.959 do it on Mars? That's fair, all right, it's not for me. 2446 02:25:13.079 --> 02:25:15.159 I'll see you there at this time. Okay, not this mission, 2447 02:25:15.159 --> 02:25:22.559 all right. Woody from Sydney asks about games that we finished out of spite. 2448 02:25:22.959 --> 02:25:26.600 After Jeff talked about his frequent frustrating experiences with Final Fantasy ten two, 2449 02:25:26.639 --> 02:25:31.000 it brought back memories of the time I, too, walked into a gaping 2450 02:25:31.040 --> 02:25:33.000 hell hole. The whole hole of my choice was, of course, twenty 2451 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:37.799 eleven's Duke knukeham Forever. About thirty or so minutes in, I realized the 2452 02:25:37.840 --> 02:25:41.639 patient's testing nature of this fifteen year old muldy excuse for a game. However, 2453 02:25:41.760 --> 02:25:43.680 in the anger at both myself for thinking it could possibly turn out well 2454 02:25:43.719 --> 02:25:46.879 and at the game itself, I set myself with a goal of finishing Duke 2455 02:25:46.959 --> 02:25:50.600 Knukeham in a single session, which took an irreversible mental toll. Ok at 2456 02:25:50.639 --> 02:25:56.360 god Man, I believe my method of thinking is fuck this game. I'm 2457 02:25:56.399 --> 02:25:58.959 not going to let this sexist on original piece of trash get the better of 2458 02:25:58.040 --> 02:26:01.920 me. I was high school at the time, which explains my free time 2459 02:26:01.000 --> 02:26:05.760 and my very flawed reasoning. So my question is, have there been any 2460 02:26:05.799 --> 02:26:09.639 games which you hated so much that you finished it out of spite? I 2461 02:26:09.719 --> 02:26:13.000 still think the only way which Duke Nico Forever could have been good is if 2462 02:26:13.040 --> 02:26:16.879 it took on a cart life art style and dealt with Duke's fading cultural relevance, 2463 02:26:16.920 --> 02:26:20.799 his non existent relationship with his strange children, and his tragic and unnoticed 2464 02:26:20.920 --> 02:26:26.520 death. Yeah. For me, my game in this category is quite literally 2465 02:26:26.559 --> 02:26:30.159 doing Forever. Yeah. I fucking hated that thing so much that I wouldn't 2466 02:26:30.239 --> 02:26:33.239 let myself stop until I have, Like I got like eight hundred and fifty 2467 02:26:33.239 --> 02:26:37.040 of the thousand points on three sixty out of that game, like some kind 2468 02:26:37.079 --> 02:26:41.719 of massochistic like unstoppable urge. I'm sorry to get through that ship. It's 2469 02:26:41.760 --> 02:26:43.639 like full auto for me, getting all the achievement like some of it mine 2470 02:26:43.639 --> 02:26:46.879 where a lot of them were tied to achievement points. Yeah, it's like, 2471 02:26:46.000 --> 02:26:48.760 no, I'm gonna get all the achievement points in this game, and 2472 02:26:48.799 --> 02:26:50.120 it sucks, and I'll be the only one that has him because it sucks, 2473 02:26:50.159 --> 02:26:54.159 because who would do this except for me? Fuck me, open season. 2474 02:26:54.280 --> 02:27:01.319 My time is worthless. The season was like quick though, why would 2475 02:27:01.319 --> 02:27:03.200 you play those though? Like what's the interest in those games? Anyway? 2476 02:27:03.239 --> 02:27:05.200 For me, it was it was an achievement thing. I don't really care 2477 02:27:05.239 --> 02:27:09.120 anymore, but I remember, especially when I started a game Informer and they 2478 02:27:09.120 --> 02:27:11.840 have this giant vault with like every three sixty game. It's like, oh 2479 02:27:11.840 --> 02:27:15.159 shit, I'm gonna look up like all I'm like all the college hoops two 2480 02:27:15.200 --> 02:27:16.879 thousand and six. I'm gonna get like I have access to everything, so 2481 02:27:16.959 --> 02:27:20.719 I might as well like boost my achievement score. But then after like six 2482 02:27:20.799 --> 02:27:24.040 months of just trying to do that shit, I was like, this is 2483 02:27:24.159 --> 02:27:28.399 not worth it at all. I'm I'm super afraid to say mine, but 2484 02:27:28.600 --> 02:27:31.440 uncharted, like, hi, which one the first one? First one one? 2485 02:27:31.840 --> 02:27:35.120 I could maybe see that, like I don't think it's a bad game, 2486 02:27:35.120 --> 02:27:37.559 but it's nowhere nearest Like it really started a drag on after one, 2487 02:27:37.639 --> 02:27:41.239 like the game Playing Mechanics. Yeah, I just not. I think it's 2488 02:27:41.280 --> 02:27:46.680 a super overrated series. But yeah, I just stuck through because all of 2489 02:27:46.760 --> 02:27:48.079 my friends were like, oh my god, this fucking game is so great, 2490 02:27:48.120 --> 02:27:50.520 and I'm like, there's not no what done a great game player here? 2491 02:27:50.760 --> 02:27:54.280 I'm kind of with me on that bag. I can see that. 2492 02:27:54.680 --> 02:27:56.479 I think State of Emergency was one because I bought it in high school thinking 2493 02:27:56.479 --> 02:28:00.479 it was gonna be like the next GTA three. And then I bought it, 2494 02:28:00.639 --> 02:28:01.879 you know, back when fifty dollars was like a huge thing, and 2495 02:28:01.879 --> 02:28:05.440 I tried to return it to funkle Land or whatever, and they're like, 2496 02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:05.920 no, you opened it, And I was like, fuck, I just 2497 02:28:07.040 --> 02:28:09.239 waste fifty bucks. Okay, fuck it, I'm gonna beat this this repetitive 2498 02:28:09.280 --> 02:28:13.639 fucking game if I paid fifty dollars for it. But there were so many 2499 02:28:13.680 --> 02:28:16.040 guys on screen. There were a lot of guys on cool. I did 2500 02:28:16.159 --> 02:28:18.920 like the one thing where he's just the mall and it just fills up with 2501 02:28:20.040 --> 02:28:22.040 like just infinite enemies and you see how many you can kill, yeah, 2502 02:28:22.280 --> 02:28:26.639 ten minutes or whatever. Yeah, it's not fifty dollars. The game is 2503 02:28:26.680 --> 02:28:28.000 not good. Did you finish it? And I guess from the grand scheme 2504 02:28:28.040 --> 02:28:31.680 of things, but I I liked it. One of that fifty bucks. 2505 02:28:35.760 --> 02:28:37.799 Play that again. I've never seen it in a really long time. I 2506 02:28:37.840 --> 02:28:41.399 can't think of a time I've ever seen it in person. I would be 2507 02:28:41.479 --> 02:28:43.399 curious. Style again, they made it too, didn't they? Oh? 2508 02:28:43.520 --> 02:28:48.399 Yeah, that was not published by rock Star got just like shoved off to 2509 02:28:48.440 --> 02:28:52.879 the side. Developed it a pretty bad game, viz that it was on 2510 02:28:52.959 --> 02:28:54.479 a rock Star developed game. Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, we 2511 02:28:54.520 --> 02:28:58.280 should play that for UPF or something. Yeah, take a copy of that. 2512 02:28:58.559 --> 02:29:00.600 Bust that out. I would be cured. I think I have a 2513 02:29:00.639 --> 02:29:03.719 copy. I don't know. Take a look at. Then Matt writes in 2514 02:29:03.760 --> 02:29:07.719 about the Skate three come back. He says, after hearing you mentioned how 2515 02:29:07.760 --> 02:29:11.680 Skate three you rendered the charts, I thought I'd pass along some infu on 2516 02:29:11.719 --> 02:29:15.799 the strange buying habits of the gaming public. In my four years of working 2517 02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:18.120 in retail, I have never been asked for an old game more than Skate 2518 02:29:18.200 --> 02:29:22.879 three. Now somebody asked for it roughly once a month, and this number 2519 02:29:22.920 --> 02:29:26.920 grows exponentially when kids are off school for an extended period of time. Weird. 2520 02:29:26.360 --> 02:29:30.600 People also constantly ask if we have PSP games in stock, but give 2521 02:29:30.719 --> 02:29:33.440 zero fucks about Vita for the most part. But we have long since stop 2522 02:29:33.600 --> 02:29:39.600 carrying games for either Jesus. So there's your brutal assessment of the state of 2523 02:29:39.639 --> 02:29:46.319 games retail. Yeah, but yeah, the skate three thing continues to be 2524 02:29:46.399 --> 02:29:50.799 kind of weird. Yeah, well there was nothing else quite like it. 2525 02:29:50.079 --> 02:29:58.639 Yeah, it got internet popular or something, so it did. Uh, 2526 02:29:58.040 --> 02:30:07.079 let's see. Let's yeah, best cost, the best coast. Everyone knows 2527 02:30:07.159 --> 02:30:09.920 that, all right. Well, with that out of the way, Brad. 2528 02:30:09.959 --> 02:30:13.879 A while back you mentioned fucking said it noted it's a matter of republic 2529 02:30:13.959 --> 02:30:18.600 record. Now who A while back you mentioned the SIMS online was the first 2530 02:30:18.639 --> 02:30:20.840 time that you had one of your reviews featured on the back of a box. 2531 02:30:22.159 --> 02:30:24.399 This got me thinking it was actually a preview. Have any of you 2532 02:30:24.520 --> 02:30:30.799 had review quotes horrifically edited for marketing purposes anytime an unscrupulous marketer decided to cut 2533 02:30:30.840 --> 02:30:33.120 your quote down to misrepresent you. Do they ask you when this happens. 2534 02:30:33.200 --> 02:30:37.559 It's a good question. I don't think I've ever had a quote and edited 2535 02:30:37.719 --> 02:30:39.799 like that. I've had quotes edited for space and stuff like that, but 2536 02:30:39.920 --> 02:30:43.159 not in a case where it was like I clearly meant this game was dogs 2537 02:30:43.239 --> 02:30:46.760 just change your intent, but it was just like edited, yeah, now 2538 02:30:46.879 --> 02:30:52.120 not to change intent, and about even just to like pump up the enthusiasm 2539 02:30:52.159 --> 02:30:56.120 a little bit. We're just like edited down to one word like immersive. 2540 02:30:56.840 --> 02:31:03.920 Yeah right, incredible explosive explosives. Yeah, words that don't actually necessarily mean 2541 02:31:03.159 --> 02:31:07.680 good. But uh yeah, I can't think of any off the top of 2542 02:31:07.680 --> 02:31:09.239 my head. And it's one of the things where, like, you know, 2543 02:31:09.319 --> 02:31:13.319 the proper procedure is for people to contact us and ask it, and 2544 02:31:13.399 --> 02:31:15.520 a lot of companies do. Yeah. Yeah, I can't think of a 2545 02:31:15.559 --> 02:31:18.440 major instance of company not asking permission. First. There was a while there, 2546 02:31:18.719 --> 02:31:22.239 like, uh, you know, there was a while that EA was 2547 02:31:22.719 --> 02:31:28.639 was including numbers like winner of x number of awards and kind of stretching the 2548 02:31:28.680 --> 02:31:33.520 definition of awards. Yes, yeah, yeah, and and like concluding like 2549 02:31:33.600 --> 02:31:37.680 e three awards in that which are kind of not reward awards for the quality 2550 02:31:37.680 --> 02:31:41.840 of the final product. And you know, there's just some fishy stuff with 2551 02:31:41.879 --> 02:31:43.520 there. I know a game spot had to you know, there's some stuff 2552 02:31:43.520 --> 02:31:48.920 there, but but nothing that was just like, yeah, like editing a 2553 02:31:50.040 --> 02:31:54.040 quote. There was no like I want her sweet can a moment. Yikes. 2554 02:31:54.920 --> 02:31:58.639 I wish there was so explain to me, Like you know sometimes when 2555 02:31:58.680 --> 02:32:01.479 you buy a game, like it's it's day one and you'll see you know, 2556 02:32:01.600 --> 02:32:03.520 review quotes, yeah, on the back of the box. Explain how 2557 02:32:03.520 --> 02:32:07.760 that works. So, I mean print magazines have a leade time, you 2558 02:32:07.799 --> 02:32:13.559 know that much and that stuff. I think there might be cases. I've 2559 02:32:13.600 --> 02:32:18.879 never done this, but I think there might be cases where outlets are like 2560 02:32:18.159 --> 02:32:22.920 sending reviews over to publishers and saying like, yeah, if you want to 2561 02:32:22.959 --> 02:32:24.799 quote it, and it's here's the review. Yeah. That's been my understanding 2562 02:32:24.840 --> 02:32:28.200 as well. And I've never done that. That seems crazy. That seems 2563 02:32:28.239 --> 02:32:33.200 crazy to me. I know that there were cases where like, yeah, 2564 02:32:33.280 --> 02:32:35.920 you see like IGN quotes from reviews that are showing up on game boxes and 2565 02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:39.079 the reviews not running until launch day, and you're like, wait a minute, 2566 02:32:39.120 --> 02:32:43.040 like we didn't even like and then we're checking that against when we got 2567 02:32:43.120 --> 02:32:46.959 a review copy of a game, and it's going like something fucking crazy is 2568 02:32:46.040 --> 02:32:50.920 happening here. Uh, And yeah, I mean it's that'd be a good 2569 02:32:52.000 --> 02:32:54.079 question for them. Yeah, it's been Yeah, it's super interesting. Even 2570 02:32:54.159 --> 02:32:58.520 with print, I never saw that like hey, here here's the review and 2571 02:32:58.600 --> 02:33:01.319 casey when you use it like if you're a print I never saw that happening. 2572 02:33:01.520 --> 02:33:03.280 I've heard of, yeah, pr like contacting some of the people that 2573 02:33:03.360 --> 02:33:07.760 they knew were reviewing games, seking if they could get like an early preview, 2574 02:33:07.840 --> 02:33:09.520 like a preview of a review or so. I've definitely had like companies 2575 02:33:09.760 --> 02:33:11.719 say like, hey, did I just want to you know, what are 2576 02:33:11.760 --> 02:33:15.120 you thinking of the game. So we are like after they send out a 2577 02:33:15.120 --> 02:33:18.479 review build, but before the review has gone up, because they're trying to 2578 02:33:18.520 --> 02:33:22.120 manage expectations. So if you right back and go it's fucking garbage. They 2579 02:33:22.200 --> 02:33:24.840 can tell people like internally like well, you know, it's like we'll see 2580 02:33:24.840 --> 02:33:28.319 what the score is end up being it's whatever, or like hey, I'm 2581 02:33:28.360 --> 02:33:31.120 gonna take a vacation because all these reviews are gonna hit and I'm gonna get 2582 02:33:31.159 --> 02:33:35.440 fired, so I gotta get me out of here on launch day or you 2583 02:33:35.520 --> 02:33:39.520 know whatever reason. Uh yeah, I don't, I don't know. Like 2584 02:33:39.639 --> 02:33:43.120 the yeah, the when it comes to online outlets specifically, it always really 2585 02:33:43.280 --> 02:33:50.760 that always seemed really shady to me. But yeah, we never we never 2586 02:33:50.840 --> 02:33:54.719 did that. I certainly I would get requests and stuff like that rare, 2587 02:33:54.840 --> 02:33:56.680 rarely, but occasionally he was like, hey, there's there anything you know 2588 02:33:56.719 --> 02:34:01.879 you can share about the review? Like nope, yeah, try to try 2589 02:34:01.879 --> 02:34:05.959 to politely dodge that question as much as possible to be fair. You know, 2590 02:34:05.120 --> 02:34:09.000 some of the quotes on release staid game boxes are not from reviews, 2591 02:34:09.079 --> 02:34:13.079 but you know, yeah, yeah, that certainly happens a lot as well. 2592 02:34:13.200 --> 02:34:16.639 That's true. I've gotten stuff where I would write like an E three 2593 02:34:16.719 --> 02:34:18.200 preview or something and say like, yeah, this is you know, probably 2594 02:34:18.239 --> 02:34:22.600 one of the most anticipated PS three upcoming titles whatever, and then they would 2595 02:34:22.680 --> 02:34:26.280 want it to be like most anticipated PS three title, and I'd be like, 2596 02:34:26.440 --> 02:34:28.959 ill, no, hey, that's not what I said at all. 2597 02:34:28.159 --> 02:34:31.920 So but I don't know if it ever actually like ran anywhere? Right, 2598 02:34:31.120 --> 02:34:33.079 Yeah, Hey, what did you call Rise? By the way, do 2599 02:34:33.159 --> 02:34:37.959 you remember it's like dial a combo bullshit? Oh. I said a lot 2600 02:34:37.040 --> 02:34:39.799 of things about Rise. A lot didn't get out about that. It was 2601 02:34:39.840 --> 02:34:43.680 at San Francisco, and I saw you there, Jeff, where they had 2602 02:34:43.799 --> 02:34:46.520 Rise. It was that Xbox one event yeah, yeah, and I remember 2603 02:34:46.799 --> 02:34:48.360 because normally with preview stuff, you want to give stuff the benefit of a 2604 02:34:48.399 --> 02:34:50.879 doubt it's not done yet or whatever. But like what I played a Rise 2605 02:34:52.040 --> 02:34:54.479 was close enough to it coming out, and it was so bad. I 2606 02:34:54.600 --> 02:34:56.840 hated it so much that like it's one of the few like scathing previews I 2607 02:34:56.879 --> 02:35:01.319 ever wrote, and ever people got pitted off about that. Yeah, I 2608 02:35:01.399 --> 02:35:03.440 forgot what I said. Yeah, I was like, oh, it was 2609 02:35:03.760 --> 02:35:07.959 about as fun as dialing the phone number. Yeah. Yeah, I don't 2610 02:35:07.959 --> 02:35:11.319 know. I've dialed some fun phone numbers before, but uh, Rise. 2611 02:35:15.159 --> 02:35:18.760 Brad likes Rise. I don't hate Rise. I don't love Rise, but 2612 02:35:18.879 --> 02:35:20.799 nor do I hate it. Brad is okay with the exist. Okay, 2613 02:35:20.959 --> 02:35:24.639 it's an okay game. It's all right. Did he beat it out of 2614 02:35:24.680 --> 02:35:26.360 spite? No? I beat it because I was reviewing it. Oh, 2615 02:35:26.440 --> 02:35:30.319 okay. I don't know that I would have finished it if I wasn't reviewing 2616 02:35:30.360 --> 02:35:33.520 it. Yeah, but I didn't hate it. It was okay, Like 2617 02:35:33.639 --> 02:35:35.840 the combat was decent. It was kind of funny. I remember getting that 2618 02:35:35.920 --> 02:35:39.280 game home. There are way way worse games out there that there are worse 2619 02:35:39.360 --> 02:35:43.280 games, Yes, totally, but man, fuck Rod. Yeah, it's 2620 02:35:43.440 --> 02:35:48.799 like, yeah, like the sixty bucks was kind of maybe stiff for that 2621 02:35:48.920 --> 02:35:52.479 game, you know. Yeah, and this position is like launch games, 2622 02:35:52.520 --> 02:35:54.840 you know exactly, there are a lot of external factors to that game that 2623 02:35:54.959 --> 02:35:56.559 that exists outside a review that you can look at me. Yeah, like 2624 02:35:56.959 --> 02:36:01.120 as representative for a system launch, like I guess, like yeah, and 2625 02:36:01.200 --> 02:36:05.319 that a lot of games that system latches fucking suck initially supposed to be a 2626 02:36:05.319 --> 02:36:07.239 connected game as well. Yeah, she's right, but I think like a 2627 02:36:07.319 --> 02:36:11.440 lot of people kind of brought into the narrative of it being the quintessential shitty, 2628 02:36:11.520 --> 02:36:15.920 shallow launch game, uh huh, and kind of ascribed to those qualities 2629 02:36:15.959 --> 02:36:18.120 to it, maybe to a greater degrees than they should have a little bit. 2630 02:36:20.079 --> 02:36:20.719 Hey, yeah, I guess, I don't know. It came out 2631 02:36:20.760 --> 02:36:24.120 at a time when, you know, it comes out at a time when 2632 02:36:24.239 --> 02:36:26.600 people are harsher on the internet than they have been in years past. So 2633 02:36:26.840 --> 02:36:31.719 that's also like shit gets eaten alive when when there's stuff like that. Now, 2634 02:36:31.360 --> 02:36:35.360 I would say Rise is largely cut from the same cloth as the Order, 2635 02:36:35.559 --> 02:36:39.799 but it's not quite as man I could see that comparison. Really for 2636 02:36:39.879 --> 02:36:43.799 me, it's that for me, it's that the act of playing the order, 2637 02:36:43.120 --> 02:36:46.559 and you know, at some point, I guess it's a personal taste 2638 02:36:46.559 --> 02:36:48.360 thing where it's just like it's a cover shooter, like I have liked those 2639 02:36:48.399 --> 02:36:52.559 in the past, and you like the way Rise plays. I fucking hate 2640 02:36:52.600 --> 02:36:56.159 it. I thought, you know, there's there's counters involved, there's some 2641 02:36:56.239 --> 02:36:58.079 timing, but it's like the way all that stuff, Like, yes there 2642 02:36:58.120 --> 02:37:01.399 are, but like just the way it feels kind of top to bottom, 2643 02:37:01.440 --> 02:37:05.280 the way you deploy those elements. Yeah, I got repetitive for sure. 2644 02:37:05.520 --> 02:37:09.200 Really really yeah, I'm not you know, I'm not saying I love it 2645 02:37:09.280 --> 02:37:13.760 or anything, but yes, I guess, like I think it's probably similar 2646 02:37:13.760 --> 02:37:18.280 to the Order in some ways, but I I would take the Order over 2647 02:37:18.440 --> 02:37:20.879 Rise any day. Yeah. Like, that's a real shitty choice staff to 2648 02:37:20.959 --> 02:37:24.680 make. Yeah, sure, it's a bad desert island you're about to get 2649 02:37:24.680 --> 02:37:28.840 stranded on, but fully agree with you. I would go to the other 2650 02:37:28.879 --> 02:37:33.520 way on that choice. Uh. This email comes in from the probably not 2651 02:37:35.040 --> 02:37:39.920 no, definitely not. Uh. This person with held their name, but 2652 02:37:39.000 --> 02:37:46.840 they claim to have survived working at a riff raff show hobably okay, although 2653 02:37:46.879 --> 02:37:50.879 they straight up say where they work and in what town? So I should 2654 02:37:50.959 --> 02:37:54.159 leave that part out. I guess Okay, they work at a theater in 2655 02:37:54.200 --> 02:37:58.840 a major city. Okay, I won't say which ones. We had riff 2656 02:37:58.920 --> 02:38:03.639 Raff come through and headline last night. I really wanted the email and podcast 2657 02:38:03.680 --> 02:38:05.479 about this, and none of the hip hop ones I listened to care two 2658 02:38:05.559 --> 02:38:09.680 craps about Jody high Roller. So I guess you're next on the list. 2659 02:38:09.600 --> 02:38:13.879 Congratulations us, He's the neon icon. Riff Raff didn't come out until ten 2660 02:38:13.959 --> 02:38:20.000 thirty. Versaci emails. Riffraff didn't come out until ten thirty last night, 2661 02:38:20.159 --> 02:38:24.040 thirty minutes after his original set time. He's like fucking way earlier than most 2662 02:38:24.159 --> 02:38:26.680 hip hop acts. Go ahead. He arrived five minutes prior. But the 2663 02:38:26.760 --> 02:38:31.360 bigger mind boggle is that there was there was ninety minutes of dead air on 2664 02:38:31.479 --> 02:38:35.799 the stage in between the Versace Python and the opening act. Riff didn't seem 2665 02:38:35.799 --> 02:38:39.200 to care, but the venue owner and promoter promoting agents were running to and 2666 02:38:39.319 --> 02:38:43.000 from the office to the backstage, and they seemed pissed along with the crowd. 2667 02:38:43.079 --> 02:38:48.040 They seemed more bored than anything while waiting. When riff Raff finally did 2668 02:38:48.079 --> 02:38:50.360 get on stage. He did a forty five minutes set, half of which 2669 02:38:50.479 --> 02:38:54.200 just included his DJ spending current hip hop records like Everybody's Favorite, Hot Boy 2670 02:38:54.280 --> 02:38:58.799 and Tuesday. Riff Raff jumped up and down for most of it and occasionally 2671 02:38:58.840 --> 02:39:01.600 wrapped a word or two. Afterwards, he then announced that the crowd can 2672 02:39:01.719 --> 02:39:05.840 party with him backstage. We and his team had no idea what he meant, 2673 02:39:07.079 --> 02:39:09.319 so we had to hold back the swarm of fans lining up while trying 2674 02:39:09.360 --> 02:39:13.360 to learn what we're supposed to do. It turns out party with him means 2675 02:39:13.440 --> 02:39:16.680 to pay fifty dollars to go backstage for ninety seconds and get a blurry picture. 2676 02:39:16.879 --> 02:39:20.639 Yep, he does the VIP meet and greets after. Overall, riff 2677 02:39:20.719 --> 02:39:24.559 Raff didn't seem too interested to be there, and it was hang on. 2678 02:39:26.200 --> 02:39:28.719 It was one of the most disorganized concerts and weak performances we've ever seen. 2679 02:39:30.680 --> 02:39:33.079 It was exactly what I was expecting, but I felt sorry for all the 2680 02:39:33.120 --> 02:39:35.280 fans who thought a guy like riff Raff would bring professionalism to a show. 2681 02:39:37.520 --> 02:39:39.440 I don't know if this is at all similar to what Dan experienced in Minnesota, 2682 02:39:39.479 --> 02:39:46.360 but I'd like to cross reference stories. If possible some stuff about air 2683 02:39:46.399 --> 02:39:50.319 Force skater. Oh yeah. He didn't ask for any crazy backstage amenities like 2684 02:39:50.360 --> 02:39:54.040 a pogo stick or a rainbow afro. Only four or five bottles of hard 2685 02:39:54.040 --> 02:39:58.360 alcohol andy pizza. All right, So there's your riff raff concert report. 2686 02:40:00.920 --> 02:40:03.680 No super soaker is filled with red Bull and vodka like I saw. No 2687 02:40:03.360 --> 02:40:07.000 sounds like it sounds like it really sounds like a way cooler show that that 2688 02:40:07.120 --> 02:40:09.760 was the pre show. It sounds like afterwards when he does the like meat 2689 02:40:09.799 --> 02:40:13.239 and great pay money. Yeah, this is like him getting drunk for before 2690 02:40:13.319 --> 02:40:16.000 his set. Sounds like okay, it sounds like this guy really caught him 2691 02:40:16.040 --> 02:40:18.760 on an off night and kicking out every groupie that was not currently wearing Versacci. 2692 02:40:20.959 --> 02:40:22.920 Wow. Yeah, everyone like show their tags and stuff, and if 2693 02:40:22.959 --> 02:40:26.079 it was not VERSACCEI he would say, I only fuck with girls that were 2694 02:40:26.159 --> 02:40:30.000 Versacci. Get out of here, and they'd be like, no, this 2695 02:40:30.079 --> 02:40:31.680 is a five hundred dollars dress, is it Versace? No, get the 2696 02:40:31.719 --> 02:40:35.600 fuck out of here, man, And then he started, yeah, shooting 2697 02:40:35.639 --> 02:40:37.959 super soaker shots down the faces of all the girls that were wearing Versacci. 2698 02:40:39.000 --> 02:40:43.159 What a guy. I drank coronas because I didn't want to drink anything that 2699 02:40:43.239 --> 02:40:46.719 wasn't sealed high roller indeed. Yeah, that sounds like, yeah, okay, 2700 02:40:46.840 --> 02:40:50.959 I was. I was very responsible that. Yeah, that's uncharacteristically savvy, 2701 02:40:50.000 --> 02:40:54.040 if you don't mind saying I was the total like square back there. 2702 02:40:54.040 --> 02:40:56.879 It's like, oh no, it's one of sealed beer please, Yeah, 2703 02:40:56.200 --> 02:41:00.639 yeah, yeah, it's I don't know what a refrash show would even be, 2704 02:41:01.040 --> 02:41:01.680 you know, like, yeah, it's one of those things where it's 2705 02:41:01.719 --> 02:41:05.319 like, you know, can he do it live or not? And is 2706 02:41:05.399 --> 02:41:09.479 it is it about him performing his songs or is it about you going and 2707 02:41:09.600 --> 02:41:13.639 having a good time at a weird party that is also a rap show sort 2708 02:41:13.680 --> 02:41:18.920 of the rip rap riff raff is at Hannibal Burst describes the experience of a 2709 02:41:18.959 --> 02:41:22.239 riff raff show to where he just plays his own songs and then every once 2710 02:41:22.280 --> 02:41:24.159 in a while, at the end of each line, he'll just say the 2711 02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:28.239 last word yeah yeah, oh you mean with the prerecorded vocal track, yeah 2712 02:41:28.520 --> 02:41:30.799 wow, and we'll talk about how he wants to do comedy that way in 2713 02:41:30.840 --> 02:41:33.280 a few years. That's like say the punch line. I mean, that's 2714 02:41:33.280 --> 02:41:35.680 exactly what this guy is describing. So yeah, so, and that's I 2715 02:41:35.760 --> 02:41:39.200 mean, there are a lot of rappers that do stuff like that. There's 2716 02:41:39.239 --> 02:41:43.719 a there's a Two Live Crew concert album. There's a live album the Two 2717 02:41:43.760 --> 02:41:46.399 Live Crew put out. You know it kind of in the middle of them 2718 02:41:48.239 --> 02:41:50.760 being Two Life Crew right when they were big and getting arrested and all that 2719 02:41:50.799 --> 02:41:54.520 other stuff. And yeah, it's it's mister Mix playing the album and then 2720 02:41:54.639 --> 02:41:58.600 rapping over it. And granted they rap more words than it sounds like riff 2721 02:41:58.639 --> 02:42:03.639 raff is, but still when they need a breath, the album has their 2722 02:42:03.680 --> 02:42:09.520 back and a lot of people, I think you go to a lot of 2723 02:42:09.600 --> 02:42:11.520 rap shows like That's why hype men exist is so that you know, the 2724 02:42:11.600 --> 02:42:15.360 rappers that are jumping up and down, that are normally in a booth, 2725 02:42:16.000 --> 02:42:20.879 very climate controlled booths, doing their rhymes, U can can move around a 2726 02:42:20.920 --> 02:42:24.040 little bit more, run out of breath and still have someone who has a 2727 02:42:24.079 --> 02:42:28.719 towel over their head and water bottle in their hand go yeah, you know, 2728 02:42:28.000 --> 02:42:33.639 or or say whatever rhyming word needs to be said more emphatically so that 2729 02:42:33.719 --> 02:42:37.799 the other guy can go and keep rapping. It's why It's why Snoop was 2730 02:42:37.799 --> 02:42:41.760 such an impressive live show. Back at the up in Smoke tour, which 2731 02:42:41.799 --> 02:42:46.879 is a very long time ago now, but that is on DVD, not 2732 02:42:46.280 --> 02:42:48.639 not the show that I saw. But he fucking did it all like he 2733 02:42:48.760 --> 02:42:52.040 fucking wrapped his ship and was fucking pro about it. Did his ship, 2734 02:42:52.159 --> 02:42:56.360 did it well, did it very well, and didn't need a hype man, 2735 02:42:56.440 --> 02:43:00.239 didn't need a million people fucking on stage with him shouting all the words 2736 02:43:00.319 --> 02:43:01.360 and all that stuff. Like, he just fucking did his business and it 2737 02:43:01.440 --> 02:43:05.719 was impressive. A shit expecting the less from the d double G exactly. 2738 02:43:05.399 --> 02:43:09.000 U. Yeah, So you know, like at some point, what do 2739 02:43:09.040 --> 02:43:11.399 you want a riff refuge? Yeah, I was wondering if himself seems like 2740 02:43:11.440 --> 02:43:13.280 he's almost done with music. I was gonna say it, like, has 2741 02:43:13.319 --> 02:43:18.200 the nature of his acts changed since he got all bulked? He directly the 2742 02:43:18.239 --> 02:43:20.200 stuff. He directly said he doesn't care about music anymore. Because when I 2743 02:43:20.280 --> 02:43:24.000 did that game Inform video with him, at first I was trying to talk 2744 02:43:24.000 --> 02:43:26.360 to about video games, and he made it very clear that he's not given 2745 02:43:26.360 --> 02:43:28.719 a shit about games since the Superintendo, and so then like we're trying to 2746 02:43:28.760 --> 02:43:31.840 make small talk with him about music, and I yeah, my boss Rhyner 2747 02:43:31.879 --> 02:43:33.719 said something like, oh, yeah, you got a new album coming out. 2748 02:43:33.879 --> 02:43:37.000 He's like, I don't give a shit about music, all right, 2749 02:43:37.239 --> 02:43:39.799 cool, yes, do you want us to promote anything for you? It's 2750 02:43:39.840 --> 02:43:43.399 like heading, he's well on his way to just being famous for being famous. 2751 02:43:43.719 --> 02:43:48.040 Yeah, I mean he's he came from out of a reality. Yeah 2752 02:43:48.159 --> 02:43:50.719 I didn't know that and kind of that was his first appearance, and then 2753 02:43:50.760 --> 02:43:54.680 he honed his craft whatever that creates. It's a it's an impressive craft, 2754 02:43:54.879 --> 02:43:58.280 like you know, like I heavily has a new inherent social value. But 2755 02:43:58.479 --> 02:44:03.559 sure, yeah, you know he's he's he's doing it. Yeah, whatever 2756 02:44:03.680 --> 02:44:07.079 it is, he is out there doing it and more and louder than anyone 2757 02:44:07.159 --> 02:44:11.040 else in that particular space. Yeah. Like it almost makes the show sound 2758 02:44:11.120 --> 02:44:13.319 more like he's just like a party promoter, kind of like he just shows 2759 02:44:13.399 --> 02:44:16.319 up in parties in your town the same way they're like, there are a 2760 02:44:16.360 --> 02:44:18.959 lot of like, you know, women that do that. You know, 2761 02:44:18.079 --> 02:44:22.360 like they tour around to different strip clubs and MC parties and stuff like that, 2762 02:44:22.399 --> 02:44:24.719 and they're not necessarily stripping in the traditional sense, but they're getting up 2763 02:44:24.760 --> 02:44:28.239 on the microphone and you know, okay, getting the party going, and 2764 02:44:28.360 --> 02:44:33.120 so maybe like club promoter is the is the more natural fit for lubomotors typically 2765 02:44:33.120 --> 02:44:35.159 work at one location, so it's more like a club promoter bringing in a 2766 02:44:35.719 --> 02:44:39.319 show. There's more of a party, and then some venues are gonna better 2767 02:44:39.360 --> 02:44:43.479 equipped to handle that and not like that ideally like that's you know you think 2768 02:44:43.520 --> 02:44:45.840 about like a riff raft part, like it just kind of almost should be 2769 02:44:45.959 --> 02:44:50.520 a strip club. Well and that's I mean that's a dark I wouldn't want 2770 02:44:50.520 --> 02:44:52.559 to go to that, But like that seems like the Yeah, it seems 2771 02:44:52.600 --> 02:44:56.920 like the circles that he's operating in. But and he's moving like merchandise and 2772 02:44:56.920 --> 02:45:00.399 stuff. He sells flip flops and he's got an iPhone game about a dog. 2773 02:45:00.680 --> 02:45:03.200 He just tweeted today that he's got another iPhone game coming out. Like 2774 02:45:03.360 --> 02:45:05.959 this guy's like doing like kind of like independent pro wrestler levels of promotion with 2775 02:45:07.120 --> 02:45:09.319 merch and things like yeah, yeah, he's he's constantly putting out new shirts 2776 02:45:09.399 --> 02:45:15.000 and styrophone cups and like iPhone cases or like stickers to put on your bullshit. 2777 02:45:15.239 --> 02:45:16.399 Like yeah, he's got a lot of dumb shit that he's selling. 2778 02:45:16.600 --> 02:45:20.200 And it seems like it is selling. Yeah, I think I think he's 2779 02:45:20.280 --> 02:45:22.920 probably Yeah, he's he's building a weird empire, and like it's work, 2780 02:45:24.440 --> 02:45:26.360 it's working. Yeah. Yeah, I like his thing. Like I don't 2781 02:45:26.360 --> 02:45:30.360 even listen to I don't have a single track of his I don't I can 2782 02:45:30.479 --> 02:45:31.479 name like the ones he his music videos for. I don't listen to his 2783 02:45:31.639 --> 02:45:35.920 music. I just think him as a thing is kind of fascinating. Yeah, 2784 02:45:35.920 --> 02:45:39.120 And I think like some of his music has actually been legitimately pretty good, 2785 02:45:39.680 --> 02:45:41.879 Like he can rap decently well. You know, he's come a long 2786 02:45:41.920 --> 02:45:43.719 way in a short period of time. You go back and listen to kind 2787 02:45:43.719 --> 02:45:45.399 of his early stuff, he was like, damn, what the fuck is 2788 02:45:45.479 --> 02:45:48.440 going on? But he found it, you know, and and found found 2789 02:45:48.479 --> 02:45:50.479 a way to kind of you like, he found he's lane and is doing 2790 02:45:50.559 --> 02:45:52.200 his thing and all that sort of stuff. And like, I'd be curious 2791 02:45:52.239 --> 02:45:58.000 to hear another riff Raff album, but I don't think that last one did 2792 02:45:58.040 --> 02:46:01.120 that well. So it's one of those things where it's like there's there's a 2793 02:46:01.319 --> 02:46:05.639 there's an Internet level of fucking craziness and people are fucking psyched about riff Raff, 2794 02:46:05.920 --> 02:46:11.239 But it's not always translating into album sales and that sort of stuff, 2795 02:46:11.280 --> 02:46:15.760 translating into selling and selling out these places. He's constant. Yeah, exactly, 2796 02:46:15.840 --> 02:46:18.959 he's on the road. He's fucking making you know, he's he's I'm 2797 02:46:18.000 --> 02:46:20.600 sure he's doing just fine. Yeah, like, oh yeah, musicians make 2798 02:46:20.639 --> 02:46:24.680 their money on the road. If people are paying tickets and leaving happy, 2799 02:46:24.360 --> 02:46:30.120 then it doesn't matter if he's fucking rapping all the words or not. There 2800 02:46:30.159 --> 02:46:35.040 you have it, your semi annual riff raff updates see even six months. 2801 02:46:35.159 --> 02:46:41.479 Uh Johnny G from Dayton, Ohio. The Johnny G Writes in all right, 2802 02:46:41.639 --> 02:46:46.200 so stop saying that, Okay, Bombers. I love the show and 2803 02:46:46.239 --> 02:46:48.120 I've been listening every week for the past three years. However, there are 2804 02:46:48.159 --> 02:46:52.360 a few phrases that I would appreciate you stop using. They are as follows, 2805 02:46:52.840 --> 02:46:56.520 tent Pole, died in the wool, piece Meal, watershed moments, 2806 02:46:58.040 --> 02:47:03.319 dark souls. Also, I have really enjoyed Dan Reichert's contribution to the show. 2807 02:47:03.680 --> 02:47:05.559 Well, I can't deny he is a total piece of shit. It 2808 02:47:05.600 --> 02:47:07.399 seems like there have been some people on the show who really don't like him. 2809 02:47:07.760 --> 02:47:09.840 Is he really that bad or is it all in good fun? To 2810 02:47:09.920 --> 02:47:13.760 keep up the good work, Jason. I'm gonna punt this one. That's 2811 02:47:13.760 --> 02:47:18.000 a question for Jason after our soul caliber comments. But never mind the mission 2812 02:47:18.040 --> 02:47:24.879 to Mars. Dan is a idiotic man child, annoying as shit, and 2813 02:47:24.959 --> 02:47:28.559 I love him just as much as I hate him. All right, so 2814 02:47:28.639 --> 02:47:35.239 he gets a fifty. She's saying, yeah, very good, Yin and 2815 02:47:35.280 --> 02:47:39.479 Yang embodied in one person. I liked it. He's an annoying little brother 2816 02:47:39.559 --> 02:47:43.920 sometimes. Yeah, he's also begin the Yang. And then like the bloody 2817 02:47:43.000 --> 02:47:48.559 third one that waged the Warrior had, where did that fit I've been shooting 2818 02:47:48.600 --> 02:47:50.959 for and I just cut it into thirds? Okay, we should play some 2819 02:47:50.000 --> 02:47:54.200 way of the Warrior. Yeah, yeah, I feel like that sentence leaves 2820 02:47:54.280 --> 02:48:01.200 someone's mouth somewhere on this website wants every six eight months we should placed some 2821 02:48:01.239 --> 02:48:05.680 way of the Warrior. I mean we did that one three deo stream age 2822 02:48:05.719 --> 02:48:09.200 this go yeah right, we absolutely we must have played it on that although 2823 02:48:09.239 --> 02:48:13.959 I don't actually remember. Yeah, must have, and you can't do a 2824 02:48:13.000 --> 02:48:16.559 three deo stream of that way. The controls and three D are so fucked. 2825 02:48:16.799 --> 02:48:18.879 Yeah, getting those finishers to come out and possible that whole games ass. 2826 02:48:18.959 --> 02:48:24.360 How's the three DO emulation scene pretty pretty sufficient at this point. Yeah, 2827 02:48:24.360 --> 02:48:28.680 it's it's decent. There are not there are not very many emulators, 2828 02:48:28.719 --> 02:48:33.280 but the one that is available is that I'm surprisingly good. Kind of came 2829 02:48:33.280 --> 02:48:35.000 out of nowhere relatively recently. Now we can play a way of the Warrior 2830 02:48:35.040 --> 02:48:39.479 with a good controller. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I My 2831 02:48:39.559 --> 02:48:43.319 first thought was when that stuff. I was like, alright, alright, 2832 02:48:43.719 --> 02:48:48.159 final email comes in from Captain Joel. It's maybe a little creepy. I 2833 02:48:48.200 --> 02:48:52.200 don't know. I haven't decided yet what an email from Captain Joel is creepy, 2834 02:48:52.520 --> 02:48:56.200 but I'm gonna read it anyway because it's just kind of weird. A 2835 02:48:56.280 --> 02:48:58.680 pillow like I. It's about Okay Cube. It's the best opening line. 2836 02:49:00.719 --> 02:49:03.399 I just wanted to write in and have you seen my pillow? Stay tuned. 2837 02:49:05.399 --> 02:49:07.719 I just wanted to write in and say that not only do I agree 2838 02:49:07.760 --> 02:49:11.040 with Dan on his preference of dating app, he's actually quite right about okay 2839 02:49:11.120 --> 02:49:16.479 Cupid's superiority. The questions that each user on okay Cupid has the option to 2840 02:49:16.479 --> 02:49:18.760 answer can give some of the most insane insight into who a person is. 2841 02:49:20.719 --> 02:49:22.280 I found out about this first hand a few years ago after I had a 2842 02:49:22.360 --> 02:49:28.159 pretty long relationship end and decided to try okay Cupid. Over the course of 2843 02:49:28.239 --> 02:49:31.399 two years from twenty ten to twenty twelve, I messaged almost nine thousand different 2844 02:49:31.440 --> 02:49:37.200 women ages nineteen to forty seven worldwide and got replies to most of those messages. 2845 02:49:37.559 --> 02:49:39.440 Went on more than a few dates and found that the friend slash enemy 2846 02:49:39.479 --> 02:49:45.760 percentages actually had about a twelve percent chance of total inaccuracy. I know those 2847 02:49:45.760 --> 02:49:48.760 statistics sound insane, but the reason for it is that I talked to around 2848 02:49:48.799 --> 02:49:52.959 two hundred different ladies. After talking to around two hundred different ladies, I 2849 02:49:52.040 --> 02:49:54.959 fell down a dark rabbit hole and began treating the whole thing like a grand 2850 02:49:56.040 --> 02:50:00.200 social experiment who learned the best opening line possible. He's not the first and 2851 02:50:00.239 --> 02:50:03.079 I've heard of that has fallen into this particular hole, and I tried to 2852 02:50:03.159 --> 02:50:09.360 game OKAQ if I can make some assumptions based on that comment. While it 2853 02:50:09.799 --> 02:50:11.680 does obviously depend on who you to ask, I compiled the data as I 2854 02:50:11.760 --> 02:50:16.879 went and found the top five opening lines they got me the most continued responses, 2855 02:50:16.920 --> 02:50:18.440 and I'd like share them with us feed article and email form. Let's 2856 02:50:18.479 --> 02:50:24.079 do it pretty much. I like how a lot of these are written in 2857 02:50:24.120 --> 02:50:28.360 the kind of choose your own format, though. Number five. That is 2858 02:50:28.399 --> 02:50:33.319 a beautiful dog slash cat slash animal? Is it a guest random breed? 2859 02:50:33.840 --> 02:50:39.319 They look so majestic slash huge slash cuddly? Number four? Hey, I 2860 02:50:39.440 --> 02:50:41.719 noticed that you really like Banned in profile and I love them? What's your 2861 02:50:41.719 --> 02:50:45.200 favorite song? Have you ever been lucky enough to see them in concert? 2862 02:50:45.959 --> 02:50:48.399 Number three? Hi? You like name of TV show in profile? I 2863 02:50:48.520 --> 02:50:52.559 just finished marathoning it the other day and I really love the themes they brought 2864 02:50:52.600 --> 02:50:54.520 in towards the end of the season slash series, and I've been dying to 2865 02:50:54.600 --> 02:50:58.000 talk to someone else who've seen it. Who's your favorite character? Number two? 2866 02:50:58.280 --> 02:51:01.360 That one comes off as I don't know anyone? Yeah. Maybe, 2867 02:51:03.520 --> 02:51:05.000 Actually you're right on that one. If you're sitting there saying I don't know 2868 02:51:05.040 --> 02:51:09.920 anybody that watches popular TV shows, that doesn't necessarily say anything good. Number 2869 02:51:09.920 --> 02:51:13.040 two. I know this is coming out of nowhere, but I just saw 2870 02:51:13.079 --> 02:51:15.959 that you like to cook slash bake and I recently just took a class and 2871 02:51:16.040 --> 02:51:18.399 found it to be freeing slash fun. What's your favorite thing to make? 2872 02:51:20.680 --> 02:51:24.000 Number one? Wow? I know you probably get this all the time, 2873 02:51:24.040 --> 02:51:26.639 but I really like the way you write about yourself and your profile. You 2874 02:51:26.680 --> 02:51:30.239 do a really great job of painting what sounds like a fantastic representation of yourself. 2875 02:51:30.920 --> 02:51:33.159 I always feel like I do terribly at this. Could you maybe give 2876 02:51:33.200 --> 02:51:35.719 me a few pointers? Take my which one of the things got me your 2877 02:51:35.760 --> 02:51:39.399 fonts? At leastree hundred and seven different users that made it past thirty five 2878 02:51:39.479 --> 02:51:41.760 messages. Number one got responses from five hundred and seventy two different users, 2879 02:51:41.959 --> 02:51:46.920 with at least fifty nine messages each. I feel slightly discuss he continuing to 2880 02:51:46.000 --> 02:51:50.520 read this email? More like that more trivia from my time with OKAQBA. 2881 02:51:50.559 --> 02:51:54.239 If you want me to keep going, might as well see it through. 2882 02:51:54.440 --> 02:52:00.239 Let's keep trudging through this fucking nightmare. You me and Katain Joel all right. 2883 02:52:01.440 --> 02:52:05.520 Free pussy Riot was the most responded to random opening message and got ninety 2884 02:52:05.559 --> 02:52:09.799 one responses, with at least seventeen messages from each user. How is there 2885 02:52:09.959 --> 02:52:13.680 any does he have a split as to how many of the responses knew what 2886 02:52:13.799 --> 02:52:18.280 pussy Riot was? I don't know how many of them were like what would 2887 02:52:18.559 --> 02:52:22.280 I would hope most of them were aware how many blocked them? Uh? 2888 02:52:22.920 --> 02:52:26.920 Young women into four says love non sequitors and always almost always respond to them. 2889 02:52:26.959 --> 02:52:31.559 H this is so weird. Nude pictures are most often sent on the 2890 02:52:31.639 --> 02:52:35.200 seventeen, twenty first, and twenty ninth of the month. On average, 2891 02:52:35.200 --> 02:52:39.079 elevenages in powers to get a user cell phone number when in doubt, talk 2892 02:52:39.120 --> 02:52:43.280 about coffee, tattoos, or piercings. I don't drink coffee or have tattoos 2893 02:52:43.319 --> 02:52:46.319 or piercings, but they are hot button topics that seem to help find common 2894 02:52:46.399 --> 02:52:50.440 grounds of Most of it may seem kind of random, but it worked. 2895 02:52:50.479 --> 02:52:52.840 Now I'm engaged to in living with a wonderful woman that I met on at 2896 02:52:52.840 --> 02:52:54.680 a k Cupid. Wow, thanks for reading. I guess if it all 2897 02:52:54.760 --> 02:52:58.479 ended in something I guess, then get then great. I'm not sure. 2898 02:52:58.520 --> 02:53:01.840 I'm not sure or what to do with this data that's been collected. Yeah, 2899 02:53:03.120 --> 02:53:07.520 those those five. Yeah, I would just say, don't use opening 2900 02:53:07.600 --> 02:53:11.879 lines and dinner like a canned like template or whatever. That just seems so 2901 02:53:11.040 --> 02:53:15.319 cold and impersonal, Like I don't like that idea at all. I talk 2902 02:53:15.360 --> 02:53:18.399 to someone like their human being. That's that's good advice. Dan, Thank 2903 02:53:18.440 --> 02:53:22.680 you for being the voice of reason here. Well, he's engaged, and 2904 02:53:22.879 --> 02:53:26.440 look at you. I took my okay, give it a kind of down. 2905 02:53:26.559 --> 02:53:28.680 Damn. Why where should I not ask? I'm going on? Is 2906 02:53:28.719 --> 02:53:35.200 that okay? All right? I won't the question by by come congratulations, 2907 02:53:35.280 --> 02:53:43.239 Captain Joel. Keep the emails coming. It's been a little dry on the 2908 02:53:43.239 --> 02:53:46.159 email front the last two three weeks, actually, so step it up. 2909 02:53:48.159 --> 02:53:50.639 Send on some stuff. You see what I've got to work with here? 2910 02:53:50.879 --> 02:53:54.200 Not okay, keep its debts. Wait a different podcast for that bullshit. 2911 02:53:54.719 --> 02:53:58.000 That's true, That is very true. Uh, that's gonna do it for 2912 02:53:58.040 --> 02:54:03.000 this week's edition or the ship. What should we tell people to look forward 2913 02:54:03.000 --> 02:54:05.760 to this week? Well, doesn't be a membership sale coming up here pretty 2914 02:54:05.799 --> 02:54:09.719 soon, so keep your eyes peeled for that mid week grounds. We don't 2915 02:54:09.719 --> 02:54:11.520 have a date. We don't have a date in front of us here this 2916 02:54:11.600 --> 02:54:16.159 week coming up? All right, Mortal Kombat X quick look is up on 2917 02:54:16.200 --> 02:54:22.239 the site. GT five stuff we're gonna do. Yeah, thanks guys. 2918 02:54:22.280 --> 02:54:24.600 It looks like the cloud say it doesn't work. That's what I've heard on 2919 02:54:24.920 --> 02:54:28.239 Twitter BC. Yeah, I've played a bit at home last night, and 2920 02:54:28.239 --> 02:54:31.239 we got it set up to a real nice mission to show off, and 2921 02:54:31.319 --> 02:54:33.280 I don't know if I can do that. So okay, we'll figure out 2922 02:54:33.319 --> 02:54:35.799 what that one. We're gonna go to dance house and record it. Sure 2923 02:54:35.760 --> 02:54:39.840 still cribs while you're there. Yeah, and then, uh, there's this 2924 02:54:39.920 --> 02:54:46.760 game called Mario Party four. Finally we free ourselves from the shackles of the 2925 02:54:46.840 --> 02:54:50.159 single analog stick, Brad, I want to tell you something. What from 2926 02:54:50.200 --> 02:54:54.879 everything I've heard, I think four might be way worse than all the ones. 2927 02:54:54.879 --> 02:54:58.079 I say that, that's what I've heard, And honestly, I think 2928 02:54:58.079 --> 02:55:01.200 it's impossible for games to be worse. Yeah, let me let me tell 2929 02:55:01.200 --> 02:55:03.600 you something here. So so, yes, he makes a good point, 2930 02:55:03.280 --> 02:55:07.920 like we've already hit bottom. No, I don't think Mario Party is one 2931 02:55:07.000 --> 02:55:11.079 long bottom. There's no ups and downs. They're all shit, Like, 2932 02:55:11.159 --> 02:55:13.760 I don't see how it could get me worse. I looked at IGN had 2933 02:55:13.799 --> 02:55:18.719 a list when Mario Party ten came out of the They ranked all the Mario 2934 02:55:18.799 --> 02:55:22.159 Parties. And I don't want to break it to you guys. Scientific Yeah 2935 02:55:22.280 --> 02:55:24.920 yeah, uh they said one, two, and three. If I remember 2936 02:55:24.040 --> 02:55:30.719 right, we're in some order the three best ones, which one tropic? 2937 02:55:31.319 --> 02:55:35.479 That's right, So I think it might be downhill from here. Uh. 2938 02:55:35.879 --> 02:55:39.680 I did not play the game, he wons much. I was an adult 2939 02:55:39.719 --> 02:55:43.680 man in college when they came out and had serious adult things to do, 2940 02:55:43.760 --> 02:55:46.440 so i'dn't have time for such children's activities. Uh So, I don't know 2941 02:55:46.760 --> 02:55:50.840 what to think of them. I heard they get slower and worse, and 2942 02:55:50.040 --> 02:55:52.799 four is one of the worst ones from what I've heard. Yeah. Cool. 2943 02:55:52.959 --> 02:55:56.959 Everybody keeps citing the microphone in four as like, I don't think it's 2944 02:55:56.959 --> 02:56:00.520 four. I think that's I want to say that's seven or five odd numbered 2945 02:56:00.520 --> 02:56:03.959 one. Maybe you're right, we're gonna need to get a microphone sometime over 2946 02:56:03.000 --> 02:56:07.559 the next year and a half. The microphone one actually sounds pretty interesting, 2947 02:56:07.639 --> 02:56:09.239 Like I don't know what that entails, but that sounds funny and weird and 2948 02:56:09.360 --> 02:56:13.479 different at least. Like I heard, four is super slow, like everyone 2949 02:56:13.559 --> 02:56:16.200 moves at a glacial pace and you can't speed it up at all. So 2950 02:56:16.399 --> 02:56:18.719 I mean, if we're doing fifty turns, which is sound pretty bad. 2951 02:56:18.000 --> 02:56:20.520 Have we agreed that we're doing fifty turns on every one of these yeah. 2952 02:56:20.520 --> 02:56:24.479 I mean, okay, yeah, I mean this might be doing what we're 2953 02:56:24.600 --> 02:56:26.440 That's what we're doing. He just gave you the options. That's what we're 2954 02:56:26.559 --> 02:56:31.440 doing. I love that attitude, Jeff. I like that. I just 2955 02:56:31.479 --> 02:56:35.559 won't be shocked if this is a four hour party. I think I think 2956 02:56:35.600 --> 02:56:39.079 for Mario party. I think Mario Party four. I'll bring I'll bring some 2957 02:56:39.200 --> 02:56:41.360 forties in. I'll be a good host here. I'll get us all in 2958 02:56:41.360 --> 02:56:45.079 the right mood. I'll bring four forties of minutes. I can't I drive 2959 02:56:45.120 --> 02:56:46.280 a car. I can't. I have to drive a car home at the 2960 02:56:46.360 --> 02:56:50.959 end of this, I'm not Yeah, okay, all right, you might 2961 02:56:50.000 --> 02:56:52.399 have to stay overnight. Anyways, Jason, I'll bring a forty for you. 2962 02:56:52.680 --> 02:56:56.719 Thank you. Yeah. Hopefully Drew will like fucking rage quit again. 2963 02:56:58.840 --> 02:57:01.479 I'm in for the lot. That was That was That was the moment last 2964 02:57:01.520 --> 02:57:05.479 time when I was like, he's generally the most placid of the staff, 2965 02:57:05.600 --> 02:57:09.360 and he just got up and stormed off. I was like, man, 2966 02:57:09.399 --> 02:57:11.559 we are in a really dark hole here. It was testing me. By 2967 02:57:11.600 --> 02:57:15.520 the end of three and four is supposed to be worse and take longer. 2968 02:57:16.520 --> 02:57:20.520 Those games all suck. What day is this Thursday. Thursday, Yeah, 2969 02:57:20.639 --> 02:57:24.159 Thursday, tentatively two pacifics. What we were talking about, look forward to 2970 02:57:24.280 --> 02:57:26.120 it. Might want to make it one, Yeah, maybe we want to 2971 02:57:26.159 --> 02:57:28.280 make it one. We should go a little earlier perhaps, if that's go 2972 02:57:28.760 --> 02:57:31.440 one, potentially going to be that long, like, yeah, it won't 2973 02:57:33.680 --> 02:57:35.799 get some stuff, but yeah, well we'll figure it out. We'll figure 2974 02:57:35.799 --> 02:57:37.920 it out, all right. Well, stay tuned for that and whatever else 2975 02:57:37.959 --> 02:57:41.639 happens on the site. If we don't all put ourselves out of our misery, 2976 02:57:41.760 --> 02:57:46.959 yeah, after Thursday, the end of Chinant Bomb. Yeah, yep, 2977 02:57:48.680 --> 02:57:52.000 we'll all be done, just like the podcasts. Stay tuned for another 2978 02:57:52.200 --> 02:57:54.760 edition of the Giant Bomb Cast next week.